Fantasy Baseball Today - 12-Team H2H Points LIVE Mock Draft! (3/5 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)
Episode Date: March 5, 2026Frank Stampfl, Scott White and Chris Towers are doing a live 12-team H2H points mock draft! We'll talk through picks, rankings and strategy in this specific format. Subscribe to our YouTube channel...: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday Download and Follow Fantasy Baseball Today on Spotify: https://sptfy.com/QiKv Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CPTowers @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Well, fantasy becomes reality.
Now here's Frank, Scott, and Chris.
Here we go.
Time for another mock draft.
Welcome in to Fantasy Baseball today.
You are listening to this on Thursday, March 5th.
I am Frank Stamphill, joined by Scott White.
and Chris Towers.
Today on the show,
we have ourselves a live head-to-head points mock draft,
and here are the details.
12 teams, four of which have the first name Chris,
so that will not be confusing at all.
Chris Towers is drafting third.
Scott is 9th, and I am 12th.
This is a standard head-to-head format on CBS,
so it's a shallower roster than we are used to,
well, comparatively to Roto,
but one of each infield position,
three outfielers,
one utility spot, five starting pitchers, two relief pitchers, and then five bench spots.
Just a quick reminder of the scoring format. On the hitter side, we have one point for each of a single walk, hit by pitch, run, and RBI.
Two points for a double or a steal, three for a triple, four for a home run, and minus half a point for a hitter strikeout, and minus one for a caught stealing.
On the pitching side, it's three points per inning, three per quality start.
seven for a save, seven for a win, half a point per pitcher strikeout,
minus one for each of a walk, earned run, hit a loud, hit by pitch,
and then minus five for a loss.
So I'm sure that was not confusing at all,
but in case you needed a reminder of what our scoring system is,
you have it now.
And Scott, with that, you can fire this bad boy up.
All right, firing it up.
Peter Clement with the first pick.
And we'll see if he goes.
Judge or Otani.
That is certainly the chalk,
and it is Aaron Judge first overall.
By the way, we are live right around 10 p.m. Eastern time here on Wednesday night,
and six minutes away from the first pitch in the World Baseball Classic,
Chinese Taipei going up against Australia.
So we'll have a little Travis Bazana on in the background here while we do this mock draft.
Number two pick, Shohei Otani, and Chris, you are up.
that's usually what happens after the first two picks as the third pick comes up and it is my pick
don't make it one of those nights chris come on now i don't know what i don't know what that's supposed to
mean um i rank it ramirez so that's what i'm going to do but it should probably be soda right
i'm i'm i was curious to see what you do here i set this draft up yeah i put you in the third spot
because I was like, I don't know what Chris is going to do there.
Yeah, I, the chat, I asked the chat, everybody said so to except for one person.
Thank you, Oxnava.
Crowdsourcing the third overall pick.
You call yourself an expert.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I have never said I know what I'm talking about.
All right.
If anybody thinks I know what I'm talking about, that is their problem.
Not mine.
Don't put that evil on me.
That's not in your like.
It took Ramirez.
FBT newsletter byline is fantasy expert Chris Towers.
No, I actually put in the subject line of every email.
Ignore this, I don't know what I'm talking about.
And then 4,000 words.
All right.
I think there is actually a case for Ramirez over Soto as good as Soto is in this format.
And I'm not saying I would take Ramirez over Soto because Soto is amazing in this format.
But the case would be nine hitter spots like this.
We're talking when we're reviewing my Tau Wars team.
Like you're not going to get out of a 15 team roto draft with.
being weak somewhere or multiple somewheres,
but you can get out of a draft like this
without being weak anywhere.
And filling third base early
is the best way to ensure that.
And especially in a three-outfield league,
I think there's more risk in filling up your outfield
too early than waiting too long for your outfield.
There are going to be viable outfielders
for a long time in this draft,
just because of how wide that kind of,
I don't know, 25 to 50 range is
where it's just, there's just not that much differentiating a bunch of those guys.
So I, um, I'm sticking with Ramirez, but it's one of those ones where I haven't actually
had to take the, make the decision. And once I was faced with it, I mean, last year Soto
outscored Ramirez by about 60 points in this format, which, it was like 57 points, I think,
which is big for sure. But if you think Soto is going to be more like a 10 to 15 stolen base guy,
than his what, 38, 36 last year,
that's most of it.
That's most of the difference right there.
So I think it's totally defensible to go with either one.
To your point, just the year prior in 2024,
when Soto had, I don't know, 10 or 12 steals,
they both average 4.1 fantasy points per game,
Jose Ramirez, and Juan Soto.
So after you took J-Ram,
Soto was the next pick, followed by Tarek Scouble,
Bobby Witt, Ronald Acuna, Kyle Tucker, and Scott, you are up with seven seconds left.
Okay, so those are exactly the players I thought would go in the top eight.
I gave myself the ninth pick when I set up this draft because I wanted to test whether it particularly in a shallower lineup,
a smaller lineup league like this where you don't have a lot of versatility in your lineup spots.
If I could really justify taking Kyle Schwaber in round one.
So that's who I take in with the ninth overall pick.
Obviously, you don't worry about his one week point batting average in a head-to-head points league.
And he has been a points league monster.
Last year, 3.84 points per game.
That is actually a little more than Jose Ramirez.
He was 3.82.
So just by the production, I think Schwerber clearly a first round pick.
how much should he be discounted for that lack of versatility?
I don't know.
We'll see if filling my utility spot in round one of a league like this is something I regret.
And if so, maybe I'll, maybe I won't have Schwabber ranked this high moving forward.
All right.
Scott took Schwabber followed by Paul Skeins and Julio Rodriguez.
I am here on the turn.
One of my picks will be Garrett Crochet.
And then if I just follow my rankings for Nanotatine's shooting,
is the highest ranked player here.
You know, there are a few names here
that get devalued in a points league,
Ellie De La Cruz a little bit.
Gunner is fine,
Vlad Jr. fine.
Cattel Martins.
Obviously very good.
You know, look at it now,
maybe I should have Cal Raleigh higher
in a points league just because he's really good OBP
and obviously gives you that catcher standout.
But he's top ranked for me here, Frank.
You're going to do it?
No, no, no, no.
I'm going to take Fernando Tatis.
We'll see if his OBP skills
carry over last year the highest walk rate of his career well yeah like he's not a mega standout but you know
3.5ish points per game last year yeah how rale you mean no i was talking about tautis okay because
cow rally 622 points last year phenomenal that's incredible yeah but i mean that's 212 points more
than he had ever had before he was yeah we're all expecting regression yeah he was a pretty run of the mill
catcher in this format before i mean not like he was very good but he wasn't a standard
out in this format before last season.
All right, so we are into the second round here.
I let it off with Fernando Tatis to go along with my Garer Crochet,
then Vlad Jr. and Jr. Comanero.
I'm sorry for interrupting, Scott.
He is really enjoying wearing the Dominican Republic jersey.
He has like six batted balls over the past two games that they've done exhibitions in,
and they're all like 108 miles an hour.
It's been very fun to watch.
All right, Scott, you were up.
You said at the turn, Cal Raleigh was your top ranked player.
I really hoped Raleigh was taken here because I wanted to go Schwerber and Ketel Marte.
But I can't justify to myself taking Marte over Rale.
At least, at least, you know, putting together rankings in a vacuum like I've done so far.
So this will be a fun test too because,
my big contention one of my biggest contentions at catchers this year this year is you know it's it's 17 deep and worthwhile starters so in one catcher leagues especially you can just wait forever and take whoever's left at the end of the draft
uh cow raleigh i think clearly stands out from the other 16 so you do get an advantage by going the extra mile for him
but you're not filling thinner positions early in the draft.
You're filling one of the most plentiful positions at the start of the draft.
So now I have a DH and I have a catcher to begin my draft.
That makes for a very interesting roster pulled.
Yeah, so this will be, I wanted Cite there and the way I saw it going in my head,
that's who I was going to take.
But Raleigh, I think it deserves to go first.
If I end up hating this build, though, I may change it for position scarcity reasons.
After Scott selected Cal Raleigh, there was Catelle-Henner-Henerson at 18 feels really nice.
Corbyn Carroll still working his way back from the hemate bone,
but starting to swing a bat and could be ready for opening day,
goes that pick 19, followed by Ellie Dela Cruz,
who should see a bit of a discount in a head-to-point league.
So typically in Roto or categories, Cruz goes in that 7-10-ish range,
but here in a points league goes 20th overall.
And Chris, you are on deck and you've got yourself some J-RAM already.
Yeah.
This is not a great part of the draft once you get to the second round, especially in a points league.
There's a real drop-off after.
I was noticing that with the OBP League for Tout Wars last night, too.
There becomes fewer second-round caliber hitters because it kind of takes Trey Turner out of the mix.
I think it definitely takes Jackson Jury.
out of the mix.
Yep.
And Nick Kurtz
was the pick right before you, so now you're on the clock.
Yeah, Nick Kurtz was going to be the pick for me.
I'm struggling
with it. I think I'm going to play the
positional scarcity game again.
Take Jazz Chisholm.
Roll reversal. And see
what happens.
All right.
Jazz last year was at
like 3 and a 3rd, I think.
3.3.2 fantasy.
points per game, which is really good, obviously.
Really good, but I was wondering if you would go with
Trey Turner just because it feels like he's perennially
undervalued in points leagues last year,
3.5 fantasy points per game for Trey Turner.
So I mean, I could have gone Turner.
I could have gone Francis Gullendor, who is an absolute standout
in this format. It's just there's just enough questions
about how the the hamate bone injury is going to impact him.
that I'm not, wasn't super comfortable making the pick there.
But if there's any format to take a chance on some of these hamate bone injury players,
I think shallower leagues where the replacement value is much better,
it makes sense to kind of take some chances in a league like that.
So I think it would have been a totally fine and defensible pick there to take Lindor.
The next pick is Logan Gilbert, who is the SP4 off the board,
followed by here we go, a little bit of a pitcher run.
Christopher Sanchez and then Brian Woo!
Into round three.
So I believe we did a, it was a head to head categories draft last week.
And I think the SP4 didn't go until round four of that draft.
And here we have in a points league, you know,
I think pitching gets pushed up a little bit.
And we see some names start to go here at the two three turn.
Does that make sense to you guys?
Or maybe should they have waited a little bit longer?
I think they should have waited a little longer, I think.
Yeah, definitely.
I was about to say there were a couple of hitters I'd take over them,
but there's like a whole round worth of hitters.
I mean, I've been saying all along,
if I don't get one of the top three at the one two turn,
I'm not considering a pitcher until round four.
And here we are at the two, three turn,
and pitchers are going off.
Well, as somebody who has already drafted a starting pitcher,
I encourage everyone to take a pitcher
so that some great hitters can make it to me at the three, four turn.
And yeah, that's reasonable.
Here we go.
Pick number 26 is Jackson Turyo, who, you know, doesn't walk all that much.
It's a lower OBP, but still dynamic with the power and speed.
So I think it's fine for him to fall a little bit.
This is a good range, early third round for him.
And Chris, you are back up.
You have Jazz and J-Ram.
Yep.
And I believe the top player in my rankings is a third baseman.
I'm not going to do that.
Ooh, you have a few.
options here. I have a few options, but I'm going to go the direction we talked about when I picked last.
Get a true impact player for this format.
Or do you take your guy? Well, so that's the thing is my guy is also a true impact player in this format.
You have 530 fantasy points in 2024 in 147 games. You had 450 in 114 games in 2020. Yeah, I
I went on auto while I was talking but I went with Lindor.
Like did you mean to make that pick?
Uh, I had Lindor and Yordon both in my queue, but I had Lindor hire so it's fine.
Okay. I was I was working my way through it now is probably going to go Lindor.
Who is the other on Alvarez?
You're not.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Scott has...
Chris is faster than me at so many things, writing especially.
But coming to a decision and
drafts.
It depends.
It depends.
I can take my time to do.
Yeah, you really, you really work your way
through it, I think.
There are definitely times when I move quicker.
Yeah, so Lindor goes to Chris,
and then we get Trey Turner here at PIC 20.
I mean, that feels like fantastic value on Trade Turner.
Yeah, I mean, it was 3.5.
I was just saying he loses value in this format,
and I guess he technically does,
but less than you think.
I think it's worse in like an OBP Roto League, like I was saying,
because you don't get the extra base hits.
But, yeah, Turner does fine in this format.
Bobby Witt was 3.57.
Turner was 3.49.
Check out this start here for J. Dub, Mulpus.
Juan Soto, Nick Kurtz, and Trey Turner.
That is.
That's pretty good.
Primo right there.
That is very nice.
So that's a good start there.
And then following up, Tray Turner.
Turner, we got Rafael Devers at 29 Pete Alonzo. So starting to get a little bit of that first base run.
They don't. Yeah, rare to see any first baseman other than the obvious top two Guerrero and Kurtz go ahead of Alonzo.
I think Alonzo is in the same tier as Olson, Harper, Devers, Freeman. So he shouldn't be, he shouldn't be automatically the third. But he is usually.
Yeah, Devers goes one spot ahead of Alonzo. I think it's defensible. I don't rank it that way.
but I think it's closer than the consensus would think,
especially in a points league,
because Alonzo, I don't know if last year was his best year ever in this format.
I would guess it's not, but it was pretty close.
And he only outscored Rafael Devers by like 12 points in this format,
which is a totally negligible number over the course of a season.
So, yeah.
So after we saw Rafael Devers Pete Alonzo,
Yorda Alvarez goes to one of the four Chris's,
but not Chris Towers in this one, followed by Manny Machado.
And I will just point out with the first basement, specifically Devers.
If you look at NFBC ADP, you'll probably see him somewhere in the 50s, 60s,
and he's dealing with the hamstring injury.
But it sounds like he's progressing and we're still more than three weeks away from opening days.
So I think that he'll be fine.
But yeah, he typically does go earlier in these mock drafts compared to NFBC ADP that we see.
Scott, you are up.
The last pick was Manny Machado.
heard a slight suck of the teeth there.
So not sure if you were looking at him.
I was.
Mike, I'm tempted to go pitcher there, even though I just got finished saying I wouldn't look at it until round four.
And I'll get back to why I was at a loss there in round three.
I was just going to take Machado and, okay, I'm going to hit a scarce position after hitting two deep ones, Schwerber and Raleigh, one and two.
And that would have been easy.
But since Machado win right afterward, it became not so easy.
I went with Mookie Betts, who I think is still really good points league player,
a really good player in general, but especially in points leagues because the strikeout
rate is always low for him.
That's another deep position.
That's another deep position.
Hitting three deep positions here early.
It's especially deep shortstop in a league with no middle infield spots.
I mean, we've done some of these drafts where you get to the excess range of the shortstop rankings
and nobody wants one.
That happened in our head-to-head points auction.
Like Trevor's story went for $2 because everybody had filled their shortstop position already.
Yeah, just for some context on Mookie, 460 points and 150 games last year,
outscored Mani Machado in points per game and was not far off from like Pete Alonzo and Raphael Devers and those guys.
In what we all, I think, think is, yeah, like close to a worse.
case scenario. Yeah, I think he's going to be better than last year. I think that was clearly,
early on especially, he was, the numbers were skewed by the illness he dealt with where he lost so much
weight. But had a very good September. So after Scott selected Mookie Betts, there was Matt Olson,
Yoshinobu, Yamamoto, and then I am up now at the three-four turn. And I just selected Bryce
Harper with one of my picks, who typically great points league player.
A good eye at the plate, great OBP, obviously really good lineup, lots of plate appearances.
So totally fine with that pick.
And this other one I'm debating, because a lot of the hitters here are typically better in a categories league.
Thinking about Zach Netto, but not good plate discipline.
And there are other short stops that go later that pretty much produce similarly.
So do I just double down on pitcher here and just build out a great pitching staff?
I think that's what I'm going to do.
So I'm going to go ahead and take Chris Sale.
I'm going to pair them up with Garer Crochet.
So I've got Sale Crochet, Fernando Tatis, and Bryce Harper.
We'll check back later and see if I kind of regret passing on some hitters here.
But not enamored with any of the hitter names left, right?
It'll be another interesting one, interesting case study here.
Because I'm more inclined to do this in Roto.
The way I've come around to phrasing it is,
points leagues are the more forgiving format for starting.
pitchers. They don't need to be
that good. They need to give you volume
and they need to be good enough
but they don't need to be
in that very slim group of
ratio dominators that you
need them to be in Roto. So I
in this format
I'm even more inclined to pass up
early pitching. We'll see
if you end up enjoying
your hitting with two pitchers early.
All right. Let's take a quick break
when we return. We'll get Scott's
pick here in the fourth round. We'll do that right after.
this. Welcome back in fantasy baseball today. We're here doing a live 12 team head-to-head
points mock draft and we are into round four. Scott, you are up and we are reminding people of
your picks. You have Mookie Betts, Cal Raleigh and Kyle Schwabber. What's next? Freddie Freeman's next.
You know, I love to take one of that tier of first baseman in the round four range,
sometimes even around three. And that's what my ranking said.
to do with my round three pick where I went moogie bets but I saw there were three people
three people who had to pick twice before I was picking again two of them had first basement already
Harper was there Matt Olson was there and Freeman was there I figured the guy who already had a
first basement wouldn't take a second and so I'd be left with one probably Freeman that's what
happened now if I had gone round three just save that whole rigamarole and just took my
best player available, Matt Olson, let's say.
It would have gone Matt Olson in round three,
Geraldo Perdomo in round four.
I mean, you might have gone mokey bets.
There's a chance he was still.
There's a chance.
I would have taken moogie bets if he was there.
Okay, so let's.
Kind of wish you took Matt Olson's guy.
So Matt Olson, Geraldo Perdomo was planned one way I could have gone.
Instead, I went moogie bets, Freddie Freeman.
I'm not sure it makes a difference.
Like, Perdomo was the best of those four plays.
in the format last year. Obviously, we have our doubts about him. But I don't know. I don't know for sure
that I got the better combo going Betts and Freeman. Catching people up on the fourth round. Again,
I took Chris Sale with the, with 37th overall pick, then Brent Rooker, Pete Crow Armstrong,
Freddie Freeman, Alex Bregman, and Wyatt Langford. So Alex Breggman, we know someone who typically
performs very well in the head-to-head points format, really good OBP.
Great plate discipline doesn't strike out very much.
We do have some questions about how he will perform in Chicago
with his swing and all that.
But fourth round, is that too early for Bragman in a points league?
I think so, yeah.
For me it is.
There are three third basemen I would have taken ahead of him,
just beyond even where he ranks among all players.
At the position itself, I have three third basement ahead of him.
However, it's not a slam-down.
Their point per game production last year was all very close.
Bregman is the best suited among those third basemen.
Like third base, as weak as it is, it gets even weaker in points league
because a lot of those players are just poorly suited for points league play.
But Bregman is the opposite end.
He's well suited for points league.
I just don't know that the upside is that great for him at this stage of his career,
especially going to a venue that I think is going to hurt his power a little bit.
One thing that I'm noticing in this, and we've done a couple of head-to-head points drafts so far,
but one thing I am noticing is I think you're going to see a lot of divergence from ADP
in head-to-head points leagues in this range just because there aren't really,
at least to my eyes, any obvious picks to make.
There's just a lot of sameness.
We've talked a lot about so far in this draft, you know, positional scarcity
and how that impacts your approach,
but there aren't a lot of,
I don't think like if we looked at our top player available,
I don't think it's going to be the same for any of us.
Let me look.
Nope.
For Scott, it's Perdomo.
For me, it's William Contreras.
And for Frank and Zach Netto.
Although, funny enough, we all have the exact same number two player available.
So maybe that should just be the pick.
Yeah.
James Wood.
Yes.
Catching people up on picks here.
After Alex Bregman went,
there was Wyatt Langford, Hunter Brown,
Byron Buxton,
Logan Webb,
who is great in the points league,
just so much volume.
And Chris,
you selected Roman Anthony.
I debated taking Roman Anthony,
but people watching on YouTube,
you see my draft room.
He was not my top ranked outfielder.
So I'm like,
uh,
you know,
do I need to move them up?
Or do I need to just draft one of these,
uh,
like PCA or James Wood,
who's better in a categories league?
It's,
you know,
there are,
legit questions, I think about how good Roman Anthony is going to be. But when you compare him to
some of the other outfielders going in this range, Wyatt Langford, James Wood, Piquar Armstrong went
ahead, Byron Buxton. In theory, his skill set is the best suited for points leagues among those guys,
because he should walk a lot. Strikeouts might be an issue, but he's much less. Like we've talked
about how Roman Anthony there's some bust potential for
Roto leagues as a top 50 pick.
I think there's less in a points league just because
the fact that he doesn't really steal bases
doesn't really matter all that much. It's a nice bonus. You do get two
points for a stolen base.
But
that is, I think
he is more well suited among the
other young outfielders to really
stand out in this format. And I'm
Yeah, I kind of took him for a, for some FOMO, so I don't think I've taken Roman Anthony.
And I'm going to do the same here with my round five pick.
I'm going to pick a pitcher I have not taken.
Call Reagan's.
Just, did you guys watch him today?
Is that what it sounded like?
Yeah, I mean, just on a skills basis,
Paul Skeen's, Terrick Scouble, Derek Crochet, those guys are incredible, obviously.
Cole Reagan's like you look at the stuff ratings for his pitches, you look at the results for his pitches.
He is very, very close to that group in terms of skill.
Obviously there's substantial injury risk for a guy who has had multiple Tommy John surgeries,
missed a lot of time last year with shoulder injury, but just on a pure stuff basis.
And the fact that, you know, we've seen what, 8, 10 pitchers taken already.
I feel comfortable with him in that spot.
If you guaranteed me 160 innings from Cole Reagan's this year,
I would probably just rank him as the SP4,
just because I think he's that good from a talent perspective.
Again, that's Cole Regens that we're talking about.
Catching people up on picks here.
Again, Chris took Roman Anthony back in round four at pick 46.
Then we got Max Fried, Geraldo Perdomo.
Now we're into round five where we get Austin Riley, Ben Rice,
Cole Regens, Framber Valdez,
and O'Neill Cruz.
So worth mentioning a few of these picks here.
Austin Riley, typically better in a Categories league.
He's not great plate discipline,
but I get it because third base, the scarcity there.
Well, and yeah, he's not great in a points league,
but we've already seen Alex Bregman go.
Riley's one of the three that I would have taken ahead of him.
I think there's more upside.
More downside, too, as we saw last year for this format, but more upside.
Yep.
And then with O'Neill Cruz going,
53rd here.
He strikes out a lot.
I understand he walked a lot last season, too,
but really bad against lefties.
I updated my points league rankings today.
I think I had O'Neill Cruz around like
140th or 150th.
Still too high.
This is the first pick I don't like.
It was 2.62 points per game last year,
which is just very middling.
I'm sure it's the lowest for a hitter so far.
It was a little better the year before.
but yeah.
It's hoping for improvement from Cruz,
which I don't think we can rule out,
but it's not what I'm counting on at this point from him.
And I know you guys are even lower on Cruz than I am.
Yeah.
After O'Neill Cruz, we get another third baseman, Michael Garcia.
That's my guy right in my heart.
James Wood, finally, I pick 55 and then William Contreras.
Scott, you are up.
I believe you don't have a pitcher yet.
I don't have a pitcher yet.
I'm not going to take a pitcher.
I'm torn between two players here.
I am going to say,
I'm going to say Bryce to rank.
I'm going to fill a weak position.
All right.
Well, that's your guy.
I mean, you are,
you've been winding up with him pretty consistently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he's not usually available as late as the fifth pick of round 10,
57th overall.
So I feel fine about it.
There's just another player I really like,
and it was torn between the two.
But ultimately I reason second base.
Again, this is a lead work.
Say the name, Scott.
No, don't do it.
We're not playing these coy games.
We're here for the audience.
Cody Belliger.
No, no, no, no.
It's not Cody Belliger.
Who I think is such a good points league player
that in theory I would have rather taken him.
But I think I needed to fill a weak position.
Only nine hitter spots to fill again.
You want impact from all of them.
And while we talk sometimes about second base
is pretty deep in interesting category specialists,
some upside plays late.
Those aren't impact players.
That is, there are very few people in a league like this
who can get a differentiator at second base.
And I think Bryce Terrain probably is one.
All right, well, we are catching people up.
After you took Bryce Terang, there was Jackson Merrill,
Zach Netto.
I brought his name up at the last turn.
I thought I was going to get him here.
That would have been pretty crazy if he made it all the way back,
but he does go one pick before at a 59th, which is fine.
I will select Cody Bellinger, Scott, who you mentioned.
I know he's dealing with the back thing right now.
He also dealt with that last spring and into April and got off to a bit of a slow start,
but obviously had a fantastic season and just the lack of strikeouts.
He makes him so, so valuable in this particular format in a points league.
So good with that one.
and hmm
trying to figure out the next pick here
yeah 5007 points last year for Cody Ballandridge
I know very good
I know C.J. Abrams is my highest rank shortstop
I might have to update that I don't know
in a points league you have two pitchers right
I have two yeah I have Chris Sale and Garrett Proche so
I think the best the best players right now are pitchers
yeah I mean they are great values you know
my two names at the top of my rank
my rankings here are de Grom and George Kirby so
seven seven
of my top eight players or hitters, actually.
Interesting.
All right, so I'm going to go against DeGrain,
and maybe I just need to update this.
Take DeGrain and take DeGrom?
Is that what you're about to do?
No, no.
But a different Texas Ranger,
Corey Seeger, to lead off round six,
which is earlier than we're used to seeing,
but again, this is his better format.
Yeah, he should be ahead of C.J. Abrams in this format.
Yeah.
So that's all me, my bad.
Make that change.
Yep.
And we just mentioned DeGrom,
and there you go.
He goes with the second pick of round six,
which,
you know,
it's interesting because we saw that kind of run start
at the two,
three turn,
and then there was kind of a lull,
and I mean,
I think we would all agree
that de Grom is kind of in,
he's in that second tier,
but he goes in round six
compared to some pitchers
who went round two.
Yeah, I don't think
there's much difference
between Jacob de Grom
and who were some of the pitchers
taken.
Brian Wilbur, Christopher Sanchez.
Brian Wu did outscore Jacob deGrom by about 50 points last season.
I don't think Brian Wu's likely to be quite as good.
Certainly, the volume might be hard to replicate.
So I think they're closer than their draft prices here indicates at least.
All right.
After Jacob de Grom, there was George Kirby.
And Scott, we are back to you.
So like I said a minute ago, seven of my time.
top eight players available were hitters.
The only one that wasn't was DeGrom, who has since been taken.
This is the first point in the draft round six, where taking Schwabor, filling my utility spot
right away, is presented an issue because normally I'd go Josh Naylor here easily, even though
I already have a first baseman and Freddie Freeman.
Okay.
If not Naylor, I'd go Christian Yelich.
Well, he's util only, too, so I can't take him.
So I ended up going George Springer.
didn't get Bellinger as my first outfielder,
got Springer.
I think he's riskier.
Obviously, he's 36, 37,
and ended a long run of decline
to put up career best numbers, arguably, last year.
But he is well suited for this format.
And he can afford to give up a lot of what he did last year.
His point per game average,
it was startling.
It was 3.7.
7-5.
So he was performing like a borderline first rounder in this format last year.
Don't expect to do him to do that again.
But it's,
as always with an unexpected hitter performance like this,
or really pitcher performance too,
nobody,
I don't think anybody has a good gauge for what comes next.
I think we can all look and say,
okay,
he's unlikely to do that again.
But what is the likely scenario?
He just reverts to what?
what he was the previous year.
I don't think that's the likeliest scenario either.
So it just becomes a question of at what point are you willing to tolerate the risk that
he does turn into his previous version all the way.
And I think him going that far is unlikely.
I think the likelyest scenario is somewhere between 2024 and 2025 for Springer.
And I think here in round six, almost 70 picks in is definitely worth it for that kind of
side. Yeah, and maybe that somewhere in between looks something like a, you know,
260 batting average, 25 homers, 10 to 15 steals and like an 800 OPS. That would still be
a really valuable player, I think, at this point in the draft. And Springer's skill set has
always been really strong for a points league because he doesn't strike out all that much.
It's been a strikeout rate below 19% four years in a row and a career 10.6% walk rate. So
regularly great plate discipline there with George Springer.
After you selected him, we did get Josh Naylor,
which I think is a steel, great value here at pick 65,
followed by Hunter Goodman, Nico Horner, Mason Miller,
and Freddie Peralta.
Chris, you are up, but I think it's worth pointing out.
Mason Miller, again, in a points league where there are going to be some
sparse available and closures you can pick up off the waiver wire.
I just, I don't know if using your sixth round pick on a closer is the best use of resources,
but Mason Miller is the best, one of the best.
Scott's limitations are my benefit.
He mentioned wanting to take Christian Yelich last time around.
I'll take Christian Yalits this time around.
Do you guys see he made his spring debut today and he changed up his swing a little bit?
He's going back to his old, more pronounced leg kick that he had.
during those years when he was more of a power hitter?
I did not see that, but if it helps him elevate the ball, that would be great.
Yeah, I don't know if there's anything there.
He did Homer today.
Sounds good to me.
So one for one with the old swing back.
Yeah, I think he's good.
I mean, even leg kick or no leg kick, I think Christian Yellich, it was always a matter of health for him.
Yes, there have been different degrees of power production over his career,
but a healthy yellage is a good yellage,
and especially in this format because he's good at getting on base.
And so I think it's a great pick here.
And I do want to, because we mentioned Josh Naylor being a great pick here,
his point per game average was actually the second highest among first baseman,
ahead of Vladimir Guerrero even.
It was behind only Nick Kurtz who had a historic rookie season.
Naylor was number two.
Now we expect him to give some of that back because we're,
We're just assuming he's not going to be a 30 steel guy again.
But he has always been a good points league guy because of how little he strikes out.
So that's, if I knew Naylor was going to be available in round seven,
I wouldn't have taken Freddie Freeman in round five.
That was round six, by the way, Scott.
It would be a lot easier if you could see the future.
Yeah, maybe I could have seen Hunter Green getting hurt and not drafted him in my TGFBI draft
because that would have been great.
By the way, big news of the day, Hunter Green, dealing with an elbow injury.
He's going for an MRI, but we're not expected to know exactly what's going on until next week.
I don't know.
Maybe we'll find out sooner.
But we did an FBT Express episode, Chris and I did, and we talked a little bit about it.
So we both dropped him outside of our top 40 starting pitchers, but it could be much lower than that or non-existent by the time we actually find out what's going on.
So big news with Hunter Green.
After Chris selected Christian Yelich, there was Kyle Braddish.
Vinnie Pee.
Baby.
Vinny Pass Quantino.
And then we're into round seven where we get Randy Rosarena, Yuri Perez.
And Chris, ooh.
Oh, your least favorite player, Chris.
Much to your chagrin selects Jesus Lazardo.
Yeah, I'm not thrilled about my Jesus Lazzardo pick.
But I think he'll be very good if he's healthy.
There's just a lot of injury.
risk there. That's the biggest thing. I think there's both performance risk and injury risk with
Luzardo because he has a very slim margin for error when it comes to how well he actually
pitches. It's 96 miles per hour. It's like really, it's like if he's 95.5, he stinks. 96.2. He's
great. He was at 96.4, I think, on average last year. So he was great outside of those two starts.
but there is more injury and performance risk.
It's risk I'm more willing to stomach here than in a Roto League, I think.
And is here SB 1 or SP2?
SP2.
All right.
Who did you get easier one?
I've got reliable, dependable, ace Cole Reagan's.
Oh, okay.
All right, yeah.
By the way, Scott, where did you drop Hunter Green in your rankings?
Not as far as you to.
Okay.
But I don't have
I don't have Blake Snell as far as you to
So it's kind of the same rationale
I'm just
Especially not so I dropped into around 30th at starting pitcher
One spot ahead of Blake Snell for me
And behind guys like Kyle Bradish
And Chase Burns
Nolan McLean that's where Hunter Green is
We don't actually know anything about Hunter Green now
We know he's dealing with something in his elbow
And it's not the UCL
That's all we really know
And his velocity's fine.
Those are the three things we know.
It may not.
Well, and that he dealt with this injury last September.
He was pitching through the injury.
And toward the end of last year.
He said he has bone spurs too.
So he was pitching successfully, though.
So look, I fear the worst.
I fear the worst when I take myself to the doctor for something, you know?
Like, I don't think it makes sense to assume,
oh, he's going to miss half the season.
Oh, he's going to miss the whole season.
Like, he may miss.
very little or even none of the season at this point.
I'm not saying that's the likeliest scenario,
but I want to guard against that possibility.
I don't want to rank Hunter Green in a way
that somebody's just going to get them for free
and like, gee, you got an ace for free, you know?
So 30th seems like a good mid-guarding against both extremes ranking to me.
I'll probably pass over him at this point.
At that point in this draft,
and hopefully we'll have clarity within a week, right?
Supposed to know more Tuesday.
Yeah.
I kind of think the median outcome is going to be surgery to just the way they were talking about it.
It was very much like, yeah, let's get this taken care of now, so he's fine for the playoff run.
And that's that that was the quotes from Francona and Hunter Green.
Obviously, they weren't saying surgery.
They were saying like, you know, let's handle it now before, you know, while we can.
But that's just, it.
To be fair, I did not see those quotes in the MLB.com write-up.
So if that's what they were saying, maybe that that doesn't sound promising.
Let me see if I could find the piece that I got that.
Yeah, they just, Patrick Brown of MLB.com just may have chosen not to include those quotes.
Catch people up on picks in the meantime.
After Jesus Lazardo went to Chris, we got Seia Suzuki, Ehuehanyo Suarez, Kevin Gosman, Joe Ryan.
That feels like really good value in around 7.
pick 79 Jose Altuve, Bo Bichette went to Scott and then Jaron Duran and that darn Scott White.
I was looking to take Bo Bichet as my eventual third baseman, but that won't be happening now.
So it was between Eugenio Suarez who I can start at third base in week one or Bob Bichette, who I can start at third base in week two.
And Swaras already went so it made the decision for me.
but I think I was leaning Bichette anyway
because Suarez just strikes out so much.
I might have considered Joe Ryan
if he had last two more picks.
I still don't have a pitcher yet.
Almost certainly going to take a picture with my next pick.
But now I have, if we're assuming Bichette,
Bichette right now slots on my bench
because I have a shortstop.
I have utility already.
I just got to wait until he picks up third base eligibility.
Now all that's missing from my lineup
if we're assuming Bichette's a third is two outfielders.
I already have Springer in the top.
about two outfielders is all I need.
So I'm going to be hitting pitching really hard from this point forward.
All right.
And then the next pick was Riley Green.
I am up here at the turn.
And just scrubbing through.
Make sure I haven't missed anything.
And yeah, I don't know.
I'm thinking about pulling somebody up the board as part of a position scarcity thing.
And yeah, I'm going to do that.
I'm going to go ahead and take Luke Keishel here as my second baseman.
I do think he will make a lot of contact and will perform very well in a head-to-head points league context.
And the other pick, I think I'm going to take my SP3.
I just, I don't really see hitters that stand out to me here.
So I'm going to go ahead and take Dylan Sees to go along with Chris Sale and Garrow Crochet.
Dylan Seas was who was planning to take, Frank.
I didn't think you needed more pitchers.
Let's make a trade right here, right now.
Dillon T's for Boba Shett.
Sounds pretty good.
No, it's fine.
There's a lot of good pitchers left.
There's no pitchers left.
There's no good third baseman left.
I'll tell you that much.
You're lying.
Now McLean's gone.
Maybe there are no good pitchers.
Somebody who rhymes with Shmajuma Shmokamoto.
Maybe get him later on.
We'll see.
Let's take a break.
Let's take another break.
When we return, we'll catch you up on round eight.
that right after this.
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So after I selected Dylan C's, oh man, the pitchers, they are flying.
We have Zach Wheeler, Nolan McLean, Nick Povetta went to Scott, and then Sunny Gray.
Sunny Gray, 89th overall.
All right, Scott, Nick Povetta is your SP1?
Yep.
Just how he drew it up.
Yeah, that's it.
I mean, the idea, I'm unlikely to have a true ace.
as I was talking about earlier.
Let's go ahead and get Chris's emotional reaction.
That's more interesting.
No, no, no, no.
Keep talking.
I thought about selecting Andy Diaz as well.
Yeah, Yandy Diaz is a standout in points leagues.
He was north of three points per game last season in this format,
and he will not be on my team.
He was 3.1 points per game, by the way.
But that was an opposite field hitter at Swampbrenner Field.
Sure.
I think he'll probably be worse, but even...
He's always been good in this format, though.
Yeah, like, 2024.
Two years ago, he wasn't that great.
But that was 120 combined runs in RBI in 145 games,
which is just, that's ridiculously low.
That's not going to be the case again.
He was north of three points per game in 2023.
He was probably pretty close in 2022,
although I think it was probably more like 2.95,
if I'm doing the math in my head correctly.
So he's usually a monster player.
A lot better in points leagues than his baseline numbers would make you think he is because the plate discipline is so good.
But he's a lot less interesting when he's hitting a dozen homers than two dozen.
Sure.
Anyway, 2020, it was 3.4 fantasy points per game, by the way.
Yeah, those were the two best years of his career, 23 and 25.
Yeah.
The only two where he got to 20 homers.
And last year, I think, was venue aided.
But anyway.
Nick Povetta, like, as I was saying earlier in the recording here, the podcast, this is the more forgiving format for pitchers.
You don't need guys who are going to dominate the ratios.
And that's really what you're paying for with the elite guys.
You can patch things together with just pretty good pitchers who throw a lot of innings.
And so I'm probably not going to have a true ace, but I'm not sure true ace separates you that much in this format.
I would like to have a lot of guys with the chance to be number three types in fantasy.
And Nick Povetta is going to be the first dose.
All right.
After Yandy Diaz went, we got Tyler Soderstrom, Luis Robert, Che Langaleers, and Sandy, do I have that loaded up?
Let's see.
Yes, I do.
Sandy.
Tell me about it.
Stad.
Sandy went to Chris, and then Ozzy Albies with the next pick.
We are at the 8-9 turn.
And Chris, I know you like what you saw from Sandy in the second half of last season.
And this is obviously his much better format, given the volume that he provides.
Yeah, he's last two seasons have obviously not been great.
But last year, it was the first half was just a disaster.
By the time we got to July, really, he was basically going six innings every time.
He needs to pitch well for that to matter.
but I think he will pitch much better.
You start to look at the game logs, starting on August 15th last year, 20, 28 and a half, 20, 27, 2, 29, 23, 22 and a half points.
Those were his points for every start.
It was basically 20 plus points every start except for one in the last, what, seven starts of the season.
I'm not saying he's going to do that every time out this year.
He would probably be the best pitcher in fantasy if he did.
But I think we saw a return to must start Sandy after the All-Star break especially.
It was a 313 ERA after the All-Star break and averaged over six innings per start.
Yeah, his control and I know his location plus got a lot better during that time.
And that was just the missing ingredient there for Sandy coming back from the Tommy John surgery.
So once he got that down, it seemed like he was not all the way back to the pitcher.
he was, but much closer to that pitcher
once again. After
Sandy went, there was Ozzy Albies and
Salvador Perez, and now we are into
round nine, where
Luis Castillo is
the first pick here. And
like you guys said earlier, man, I think he kind of
just throw ADP out the window
for a head-ted points league. It's just, you know,
we are
seeing things that we wouldn't normally see, I guess,
in a Categories league. It's
kind of the Wild West here.
in a head head point block.
Halfway through, we're almost halfway through.
Yeah.
There are, I think there's still 12 to 15 players that are clearly better than the others.
So I'm not sure we're quite there where it's just like anything goes, but we're getting close.
Yep.
And right after Luis Castillo, Stephen Kwan, who every year with that extremely low strikeout rate makes a lot of sense here in round nine.
And Chris, we are back to you.
I do want to say, I think we're there with hitters.
I think there, there's already been a significant drop-off in hitter to the point where I think that would not be as true if Jeremy Pena hadn't literally fractured his finger, I don't know, 20 minutes before we started recording or whatever it was.
Yeah.
Or that's what it's what has been reported as.
I don't think it's actually been confirmed by either the DR team or the Astros, but he hurt his finger today.
And so that might be the pick, although I already have a shortstop.
I'm going to just keep chasing pitching and keep chasing high upside pitching, and I took Chase Burns.
Chasing Burns.
I was wondering how many times were you going to say chasing before you got to Burns.
No, I was hoping to take Burns because I was just saying I don't think I'm clearly not going to get an ace at this point.
I might have if I'd taken Chase Burns.
I mean, in this format, I think this is clearly a better in.
Rota than points player, at least right now,
because I do think it's going to be a lot of five-and-dive for Chase Burns.
I don't think we're going to see him pitch deep into games.
He's just such a max effort guy.
He's such a strikeout guy that I don't think I would be stunned
if Chase Burns averaged six innings per start this season,
even if he's very, very good, which I do expect.
So I think the likelihood of Chase Burns being,
even on a per-game basis, the top 12 pitcher in this format is pretty low, I would think.
And averaging six innings to be fair is a high standard for anybody.
That's 180 innings over 30 starts.
I'd be pretty surprised if he averaged five and a half innings per start.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, he does struggle a little bit with control too,
so I'd just think a lack of efficiency there for Chase Burns
will probably limit his innings pitch per start as well.
But he got to 110 last year.
I think he could do 150.
Yeah, I think 150 is a good expectation.
But 150 in a Roto League,
it's easier to be very, very impactful with great ratios.
Sure.
Yeah, 150.
It kind of depends how he's getting those 150.
Like it might be 150 over 27 starts, something like that.
After Chase Burns, there was Max Muncie of the Dodgers who great OBP still walks a ton,
but doesn't play against left-handed pitching.
So it's kind of a give and take.
This is definitely his better format, but he's lacking that volume of playing against left-handed pitching as well.
After Max Muncie, there was
Jacob Miziarowski, Michael Bush,
Trevor Rogers, Nathan Avaldi.
So we're getting that pitcher run, Scott,
and we're back to you in round nine.
Yeah.
Who do I want to take?
I mean, I just, I think on the whole,
the pitchers are way better than the headers right now.
Yeah, and I need pitchers.
So I'm definitely taking a pitcher.
It's just which one?
Which one?
Uh, uh, I haven't, hmm, eh, nah.
I haven't taken Cam Schlittler yet.
Let's do Schlittler.
There you go.
Now we're talking, Scott.
Is that your impersonation of the lady drinking kombucha meme?
Is that what she was drinking in that, in that meme?
I believe that's the context of that.
I've never actually tried it, but I've, I've heard it's not so great.
Our second closer just went off the board.
Edwin Diaz.
And I think it came three rounds after.
Better value the Mason Miller.
Yeah.
Which may not be the same in your home league.
Mm-hmm.
But this is the way it should be.
They're just, there are so few reliever spots to fill.
It's made deeper by all the sparps.
And it's just harder for good relievers to differentiate themselves.
Chris, did you actually, I'll ask you that in a second.
Hunter Green just a ring.
Just went closer to where you boy ranks them.
Well, that doesn't mean it's right.
No, it doesn't.
We'll find if it's out of his right a week from now.
Yeah, pretty much.
107th overall.
And, you know, right after Schlitler of Aldi Rogers,
this is probably the SP 35-ish range, I would imagine,
in this specific draft right now.
So that sounds right, yeah.
Yeah.
All right, can you guys talk about some picks
while I figure out who I'm going to take?
Yeah, what do you think of Schlitler, Chris?
Do you think he's got a,
I was partly thinking of his run of starts at the end of last season,
where it looks like, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, five of eight went six innings or more.
And that's not even including the postseason, I assume, where he had an eight-inning start.
They've showed a real willingness to let him pitch deep into games.
The problem when we talk about like, oh, does he go six innings consistently?
yes, that is the goal, but like I've talked about that was this with Blake Snell a lot.
Like those two years where he had 180 innings, his pitch counts were still relatively low.
Like I don't think in either of the two seasons where he had 180 innings, he was in like the top 15 in games and pitches per start.
It's just he happened to be efficient those two seasons.
With Schlitler, he was pitching deep in games and the Yankees were letting him go 90, 95 plus pitches pretty consistently.
which is not something you see all the time with rookie pitchers.
Now, the other side of that is can his arm handle that?
He's seen a gigantic boost in velocity over the past couple of seasons
going from right around 94 in 2023 to like 98 in 2025.
It was a pretty bonkers.
Uh-oh.
The comment said I was saying bonkers too much yesterday now.
Now we're back on it.
They got in your head, Chris.
They got in my head for sure.
ridiculous.
No, he, yeah, that was a huge jump in velocity
that makes me nervous along with the workload,
but I do think Cam Schilder, look, the Yankees
have let their guys go deep.
You know, the, I, did Rodon and Freed,
were they one and two in wins last season?
I think Crochet was one, but yeah, they were,
one was first and one was tied for second air or something like that.
And then I want to say Rodon also led the league in the A. Allen wins the year before.
Or was right up there.
So they've let their guys go deep when they're good enough for it.
So I do think if Schlittler holds up, he'll probably be a very good points league option as well as Roto.
All right.
At the 9-10 turn, I selected Matt Chapman and my guy.
Scott, thank you for not taking him.
I was really scared you were going to do it.
I'm pretty sure you just let me have him.
So I appreciate that.
that is Nick Lodolo.
So here's the thing.
If I'd taken Lodolo, would you have taken Schlittler?
Oh, let's see.
The pitchers that are left, and there was this class now taking Woodruff, Pepio.
Yeah, I probably would have taken Cam, yeah.
Because I actually do rank Lodolo a couple spots ahead of Schlittler.
And, you know, I said I haven't drafted Schlittler yet.
I assume that's why.
Just because, okay, going through my rankings.
But they're in the same tier.
And I don't, my opinions within this.
tier are not very strongly held.
Yeah.
So I just figured I'd give, I'd try out Schlitler, see how that felt.
Maybe I'll end up rearranging the ranking slightly.
I might, well, go ahead and read off the last few picks and I'll get to what I wanted to say.
We're getting a lot of pitchers here.
So again, we're into round 10.
I selected Nick Ladolo at pick 109.
Then we got Tyler Glass now.
Jacob Wilson, great points league player.
You took Brandon Woodruff and then Ryan Pepio and Andres Munoz was the pick right after that.
So I get the failing Woodrow.
Woodruff, who I have ranked ahead of both Lodolo and Schlittler,
I got him surprisingly late in Tout Wars last night.
It just seems like he is starting to slide because he hasn't been pitching.
He has that Red Cross next to his name.
However, the last update says he's trending toward avoiding the IL.
Is it a Schlittler?
No, I'm talking about Woodrow.
Shlittler's about to start pitching again.
He's been cleared to pitch again.
Woodruff, I don't think has.
And I'm kind of skeptical he'll actually avoid an IL stint,
but like it's it's clearly a ramp up issue at this point.
Nata, he's not a healthy issue.
And I, if he misses his first turn, whatever.
He's given his history, even before the recent shoulder stuff,
you know he's going to miss turns occasionally this year.
Yeah.
That it's the first doesn't really move the needle for me,
but I might have to move Woodruff down in that tier
where my opinions are not very strongly held.
just because I know I can get him later in the tier.
You know who we are all collectively.
And it's possible that just everybody has a shortstop by now.
There's one person who does two people who do not have a shortstop.
But I am running into the problem of filling the utility spot too early.
Yeah.
Where, look, I'm happy with Christian Yellich.
I think he'll be great.
But Yelich is not, despite his skill set seemingly working better for this format,
he's probably not actually much of a better points league player than C.J. Abrams, who's been
above three points per game, I think, three straight years. I don't know if he quite got there in
2024, but definitely 2023 and 2025. He was three points per game. I think it was three point,
three point two almost for for, uh, yeah, Abrams. I can tell you last year, Abrams was three point one
and Yelich was 3.08.
So, yeah.
Abrams was actually a little better on a per game basis
last year.
Now, Yelich didn't have quite his usual plate discipline last year.
Yeah, I think he kind of had to sacrifice some of it.
So I think, I don't think we saw Yelich's best last year per game.
I do think we saw basically Abrams best.
I know some people hold out hope for more improvement from him,
but he's basically been the same guy three years in a row.
Yeah, he was basically a 3.1 in 2020.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the point, the point stands.
Like, he's a, he's a must-star player, even in this format, and he hasn't been taken yet.
Somebody should take it through their utility spot.
Yeah, someone who's listening.
I got Schwartz.
Yeah, that's the problem.
I have Francisco Lindoran Christian Yalach already, but it's one of those ones where if I knew Abrams was going to be sitting there at 123, like that's a clear steel.
He's a top 70 player in head-to-head points league at least.
Yeah, I mean, I will tell everybody who is in this draft and watching right now.
If CJ Abrams makes it to me at the turn,
I will take him as my utility.
You don't want to have to take him, do you?
I don't know.
You're daring people.
No, I have thought the past couple of rounds,
the past couple of turns about taking Abrams,
but I did need a third basement,
so I selected Matt Chapman,
and he's fine.
He's kind of boring, but walks a lot,
and I'm okay with that.
But yeah, I just needed to fill that third base position.
And I had to take Nick Ladolo, right?
Like, he's my guy.
I had to do that.
So we'll see.
if Abrams makes it all the way back. Lots of picks.
Let's catch people up.
Not happy.
After Andres Munoz, that pick 114 in round 10, there was Matthew Boyd, Trey Yassavage,
Gavin Williams, Brandon Nimmo went to Chris, which is a great points league player.
Cade Smith.
He's going to lead off for the Rangers.
They've already confirmed that.
Cade Smith, and then Spencer Strider, we are into round 11 now, and we get Michael King,
Cosima Okamoto, so he won't be on my team.
And then Kyle Stowers went to you, Chris.
You said you weren't happy.
What happened?
Yeah, he's just a bad play discipline guy.
I think he was north of three points per game, but it was barely.
Mm-hmm.
I don't think we've talked about his hamstring injury, by the way,
if you want to touch on hamstring injury.
If you want to touch on that, yeah.
It sounds like he's only going to be shut down for one to two weeks
and could still be ready for opening day.
But obviously, like, opening days in three weeks.
So if he's shut down for two weeks,
I think Kyle Stowers probably opens the season on the IL.
You hate to see a player missing a big chunk of spring training.
So I think there's some risk.
I really like Kyle Stowers.
I think a lot of what he did was real last year.
I think there's a little bit of Brent Rooker here where it's a late breakout,
but the underlying numbers really back it up.
I just didn't want to take another starting pitcher with how many I already have.
I almost clicked Bubba Chandler, but there's just,
there's a lot of risk already.
this pitching staff. I'm not sure I could take another young guy who throws 99,
um, although I really like Bubba Chandler. So yeah, your heart is too weak. I this is,
this is the format to build a risky pitching staff. Sure. I mean, it's, I, I kind of said a few
times that boring pitchers pay off here too. Like just basically all forms of pitchers. If they're not
bad, they're good. It's more that this is the format to take risks. Yeah. Because you know the waiver
for wire is going to be fertile in fallback possibilities.
After Chris selected Kyle Stowers, we did finally get CJ Abrams at Pick 124.
Great pick.
I'm sure J. Dub, Mulpus here has a great team because I called out his team earlier,
and I like the pick that he was making.
So we'll check in on that later.
There was Augustine Ramirez, Carlos Estevez, Jorge Polanco, who was really good last year.
in all formats, but I mean, specifically in a points league, he does keep the strikeouts down,
which is very good.
Followed by Willie Adamas, and we are back to Scott.
Let's check in on the old squad here and see what we've got.
Cal Raleigh, Freddie Freeman, Bryce Terrang, Mookie Betts, George Springer, Kyle Schwerber,
and then the pitching staff, Nick Povetta, Cam Schlittler, and Brandon Woodruff.
Yeah, I'm going to take another pitcher.
to take Bubba Chandler since Chris passed him over.
I'll shoot for the upside.
I'll take the risk.
Can he throw strikes?
Has been a problem so far this spring.
It has been a problem so far this spring.
I will remind you of something.
You may need a reminder on, Frank.
Don't overrate spring performance.
You know what?
This is about the time that I needed that reminder, Scott.
So thank you.
Yes.
Yes, I did.
I'm trying to keep this long running
like Google Doc of notes and everything
I'm already falling behind
There's just too much going on but
You know it's going to be even tougher?
What's that?
We're going to be watching these World Baseball Classic games
There's going to be big crowds
I've got it muted but I'm sure the crowd
in Tokyo's going crazy right now
It's going to be even harder
Not to react to World Baseball Classic
Which 100%
If you were going to react to anyone, to anything this time of year, it would be World Baseball Classic rather than spring training because they are more competitive games.
But we probably just shouldn't react to it.
Probably shouldn't react to seven games either way.
Yeah, I think that's probably the right answer.
But the one I wanted to mention who went last round was Matthew Boyd.
He had something like 13 swinging strikes yesterday in that relief appearance for Team USA against the Giants.
He just, he looked incredible.
but his slider velocity is up the spring
and he's been getting crazy whiffs on that slider.
So just thought I would point that out there.
I know that there are a lot of good catchers left,
but to get this guy in round 11,
I'm just going to go ahead and take Drake Baldwin,
especially with the news of jerks and pro far,
suspended 162 games.
Even once Sean Murphy is back,
I just think Drake Baldwin is going to play
as much as humanly possible,
whether it is at catcher or DH,
and he makes a lot of contact.
He's in a good lineup
if they could stay healthy
and stop getting suspended.
That would be great.
But yes, I'm very happy
to take the plunge on a catcher at this point.
Love the pick.
Love the pick.
I had Will Smith as top catcher available
and I got to move Drake Baldwin
ahead of Will Smith
because I think actually
Will Smith is the bigger playing time
concern than Drake Baldwin.
Yeah, I agree.
To start out.
Yeah.
To start out.
I mean, I think like,
Even when Murphy's back, worst case scenario, I think Baldwin draws Will Smith to a draw.
Well, to a draw.
What I was building up to is that I don't think the Braves' DH is on the roster right now.
And I'm seeing a lot of people say, oh, this is probably what the Braves look, offense looks like.
Oh, Eli White, get your Eli White shares.
I now live in the hometown of Eli White.
He's like a local celebrity here.
So you got to watch, watch what you say.
That's just an aside.
People are going to start knocking on Scott's window.
What do you say?
Get your Eli White shares.
I think it's going to happen like I laid it out a couple days ago
where once teams are having to make roster cuts at the end of spring training,
they're going to be kind of given these bats away that aren't amazing.
They're not like All-Star caliber or anything,
but they're better than what the Braves currently have.
Ryan Maltcastle comes to mind.
And so I think they're going to end up getting somebody not only,
on the roster right now to fill that spot.
And the scenario of Sean Murphy and Drake Baldwin playing every day is probably not going to happen.
But Baldwin, I think at this point, is clearly better than Sean Murphy regardless.
Yeah, that is all fair.
Catching people up after you selected Bubba Chandler, we got Brandon Lau, Yuan Duran.
At the turn, I selected Drake Baldwin and Emmett Sheehan.
So I have all five of my starting pitchers filled out at this point.
I still need an outfielder and a utility bat, but the hitter pool seems pretty flat at this point.
figured I would go ahead with another breakout candidate there with Emmett Sheetan.
And then Michael Harris and Chris Boobich.
Scott, I hope you were not planning to take Chris Boobich.
Not yet.
It's 136.
I know ADP is out the window, but there are other pitchers here that I like more.
Okay.
That haven't been taken.
Getting close to Boobich, but a few others ahead of him.
I'm torn between two of them, actually.
One is Blake Snell.
who maybe has fallen enough.
I'm gonna see how much longer he falls, though.
And take Tatsuya Imi.
Mm, very fun.
Mm-hmm.
I like it.
I like it.
I believe we've only seen one star from him so far,
and he only threw an inning in that one.
I could be wrong about that.
That sounds right.
They've been working.
I think the thing that you have to keep in mind with I'mai,
and it's the same as,
Yoshinobi Hamamoto and Shoha Tani and every pitcher coming over from Japan is
the Astros are almost certainly going to stick to a six-man rotation.
So in a head-to-head points league, that does present some limitations
because you're probably not going to get any two-star weeks,
or at least many two-star weeks from them.
I did notice I was going through the Dodgers schedule for the first part of the season
because I had read a story a couple weeks ago that they might not need a six-starter
to open the season, and that's true.
I think they can get through two turns
through the rotation while keeping everyone
on five days rest.
But the sixth starter spot is going to
come up about four times in the first
month of the season. And there is, I think,
week three,
a Yoshinobu Yamamoto two-
two-star week. Oh, nice.
In there, I believe. So it's a nice little bonus
for those of you who took them early. There aren't
going to be many of those, but there will be some.
After Scott selected
Tatsuya I, Mai, we got Sal Freelik.
Shota Imanaga, Will Smith of the Dodgers, and Mackenzie Gore.
So this is a pretty fun round for starting pitchers.
We had Sheehan, Bubich, Imi, Imanaga, Gore.
All feel like either sleeperish or breakout-ish type pitchers there.
That's what I've been saying about the starting pitcher position this year is,
okay, this is a range of the rankings where there are always a lot of alike options
and you're kind of picking and choosing your favorites.
That group of alike options, though, on the whole,
seems to have a lot more upside than usual,
particularly in terms of their bat missing ability,
which I think is the strongest indicator of overall upside.
So it's why I really like to live in this range,
and the hitters, comparatively speaking, are just so uninteresting.
Mm-hmm.
So...
And I think especially in a points league.
Yep. Yep. Absolutely.
After we saw Mackenzie Gore, there was our oldest Chapman,
and Chris, you selected Carlos Rodon,
who again is working his way back from off-season surgery
to clean up some bone spurs in his elbow.
Sounds like he'll be back in late April, maybe early May,
if they want to play it really cautiously.
But last year, 18 wins for Rodon and 16.4 fantasy points per game.
that was the same amount as Paul Skeens.
It was better than Chris Sale and Jacob de Grom.
So Rodon,
part of that is really good in points leagues.
Won a lot of games.
Yes, yes.
Was 18 wins, pitch deep consistently.
But still the same team.
And while I think the pitching deep consistently is a bigger question at this point,
I still think it's easier to stomach, you know,
early season limitations in this format,
because you just don't start Carlos Rodon
if you don't think he's going to go five innings consistently.
But he should be, you know, assuming he avoids setbacks,
he should be fine by mid-season to pitch like himself.
I'm curious, back in November,
when Rodon, Snell were healthy,
did you rank Rodon ahead of Snell then?
Because you took Rodon ahead of Snell now.
Yeah, I would have, if both were healthy,
Yes, I would have just taken, I would have had Rodon ahead of snow.
After Chris selected Carlos Verdun, we had ourselves a turn of picks here.
Jack Caglione at 143, Devin Williams, and Josh Hater, now we're into round 13, and Sal Stewart.
Scott, I have one request for you.
Do not ever invite Jake Holland back to do a mock trap ever again.
Taking all your guys.
Dude, those two guys.
You listen to the last couple episodes.
Those two were in my mental cue.
I can't put them in my actual queue
because that's what's up on the screen right now.
But that was like, the next turn, I was like,
all right, I'm going to go Cags and Sal Stewart.
And this is going to be great.
Did you mean to do that, Chris?
It was in my queue.
It's fine.
That's on me.
Nope, I think we should back it out.
No, that's on me for,
I was deliberating at the last minute.
I almost just took Blake Snell to make Scott happy,
but I can never make Scott happy.
I mean, this is a
pretty fun part of the draft here.
Round 12, we mentioned a lot of those
Sleeper Breakout starting pitchers went
and now we're getting some of those
kind of hype hitters again, Caggs, South Stewart
and the name that Chris selected, by the way,
is Connor Griffin.
So, who is the top prospect in all of baseball?
I mean, Caglione, he hasn't homered in a couple days.
I'm kind of over it.
Scott, don't react to spring training.
The whole thing is a reaction to spring training.
I'm just joking, though. I'm obviously not over it.
I had him on the short list of my breakouts 1.0, and I think he just missed the cut.
I probably would have included him in breakouts 2.0 anyway, just because I like the post-type nature here of Caglione.
We were all so excited about him last year.
And I know the surface level numbers and the majors for Caglione last year were not good, but the underlying stuff was still pretty good.
Like the plate discipline was okay.
The strikeout rate was.
Not egregious. The max EV was like 114 miles per hour, so there were still a lot to like there was his
His actual wobo was like 240. It was one of the worst among anyone who had as much playing time as him
But his expect Wobo was like 326 which is not great to be clear, but it's above average and it's significantly better and if
I don't know a 326 Wobos probably
Gosh, I'm trying to come up with a cop but if he had had that as a rookie as a 21 year old rookie
with, you know, all the skills that Jack Haggleone has,
I think there'd be a lot more interest in him.
And just last year, Josh Bell.
If he had had Josh Bell's season,
I don't think people would be like through the roof about Jack Haggleone,
but I think there would be a little less skepticism about him
and a little more excitement about him building on it.
And I think it took 120 mile per hour batted ball in spring training
to get people to that point, I think.
After Connor Griffin went to Chris, we got Ranger Suarez,
Lawrence Butler, Brian Reynolds, Ryan Nelson,
and Ryan Nelson, by the way, the first SPARP selected in this draft,
and then Blake Snell, Scott.
So one pick right before you.
I know.
152nd on Blake's name.
I thought I was going to get him.
After almost taking him last time,
I wonder if Martin Sikulski
did that on purpose, just to be mean.
I'll take Joe Musgrove.
I like Musgrove.
I think I've said it a few times.
He was basically Max Freed,
not just in terms of percentages,
but workload as well,
prior to having the elbow issues come up in 2024.
And there's Tommy John's surgery.
It's not foolproof,
but a lot of pitchers come back just the same.
His velocity was up.
I don't know if you mentioned that.
He pitched today.
He averaged 94.
with his fastball. He was at 93 the last time he pitched. So that's a promising sign. I thought he,
from what I saw, he looked pretty good.
All right. Yes, that is, that is good information there on Joe Musgrove.
I got to move him up. Yeah, I was, I spent all day updating the rankings today. And I was,
we talked about this earlier, Chris offline, but I was deep in the weeds. I was in the,
the Charlie Condon area of the rankings. I was really trying to move up a lot.
of these peripheral players and stuff.
And I moved Caglione up to around
like outfielder 40 and Condon.
And Joe Musgrove, I moved up to around SP 50.
So kind of, you know, right after that group of
Ranger Suarez and Tatsuya Imi, it's
kind of that excitement group of starting pitchers there
with Joe Musgrove kind of rounding that out.
So we are about to finish out round 13.
I am on deck here and need one more out
fielder one more utilabat.
Got all five of my starting pitchers filled out.
Scott, I do have one more request.
I would like to play this league out.
I really like my team.
I know you don't mean that.
I mean, you may like your team, but I know you don't want another league to play out.
I actually really don't want another league.
But this team looks really good.
I do like this team quite a bit.
If all my teams turned out like this, I think I would be pretty happy.
Although I need Sal Stewart on it, so I would have to hit up Jake
trade because I've got to get that.
Sal Stewart, by the way, a sock and a shoe here on Wednesday.
He's going to be such a dude.
Gosh, he's so good.
By the way, you both moved Caglione to 40th at starting pitcher?
At starting pitcher.
Well, I don't think he's going, he's going to be a two-way player.
He is a former pitcher, by the way.
He tried.
But 40 at outfield exactly?
Yes.
That's very funny.
Did we all do the same thing?
Even when the hive mind is not discussing things.
the hive mind is still
is still putting the guys in the same spot
that is incredible stuff I had him at 40 when I moved it
a couple days ago very nice
and I Frank what I do
I take your guy yeah you took Ian Hap
I still need two outfielders and he was one of the points league
standouts that was still there yep and I'm gonna end the skid here
for Jeremy Pena who's gonna just throw him in my utility spot again he's
dealing with this either injured or fractured finger.
They reported that he's going to be out the first round of the WBC,
hoping that he's ready for opening day.
We don't have too many details about it so far,
but even if he misses the first couple of weeks,
he was a standout last year and really like the skill set overall there for Pena,
and so I will just throw him in my utility spot.
Yeah, that's long overdue.
And even if he has a fractured finger, I don't think it's,
I don't think he's missing a long time.
And he, on a per game basis, low strikeout rate, he was good as some short stops that were going eight rounds ago.
I would have been happy to take him or CJ Abrams a while ago, if not for Lindor.
So let that be a lesson to you, dear listener, shortstop in a league like this with no middle infield spot unless you get a true standout, not just.
a good starter but a true standout like a Lindor or a Gunner Henderson somebody like that going in the first couple rounds this is a position where you can absolutely wait a loss we've seen it in this mock we saw it in the head to head points auction Trevor Story two dollars and he wasn't the only one I think CJ Abrams went for I think I got Abrams for 10 yeah a story's still on the board here too by the way yeah and he was right around that three point per game he's a bust candidate but 160 yeah I can't
complain about that.
Yeah, I think
Catcher and Shortstop
are the two places in a head-to-head
points league that you can absolutely afford
to wait.
It's fine to get one of those early round difference
makers, like you said, although I think
when it comes to Catcher, it's
an overstatement to say it's
Cow Rally or Bust. It's kind of
Cow Rally or Bust, though, because...
For this format? For this format.
Like, it's... Cow Rally last year was like
620 points.
everyone else was like
4.50 or below, I'm pretty sure.
But you could see a few, I think you could see a few
of those plate appearance standouts
really be difference makers still.
Like a William Contreras
could be a 500 point player.
Contreras, Ben Rice, I think they can be.
Yeah.
We are into round 14.
After I selected Jeremy Payne, we got Drew Rasmussen,
Kate Horton, Robbie Ray, went to
Scott, and then Merrill Kelly with the next pick.
Merrill Kelly dealing with the back injury,
but sounds like,
he could be ready for opening day and typically goes deep into his start. So I think a good play in
this format. Scott, you took one of your busts. I guess everyone else in this draft thinks he's a
bust because we're starting to take pitchers who I have ranked below him. I don't think I rank
Robbie Ray that aggressively. He's a veteran who should go deep into the starts where he's pitching
well and the ratios that have always been a problem for him.
WIP can be an issue.
Obviously, it doesn't matter nearly as much in this format as it does in Roto.
So I think as my eighth starting pitcher, sure, Robbie Ray.
We are on the board, by the way, in the World Baseball Classic.
Australia up to Zip on a Robbie Perkins to run Homer.
So don't think that matters at all for this draft or conversation.
But if you're...
I'm moving Robbie Perkins up.
If you're watching along, yeah, your Open University.
Dynasty League, Robbie Perkins from the Australian Baseball League.
You know, I was explaining to my wife yesterday.
We were talking about the World Baseball Classic and just talking about other leagues around the world.
And Australia might have like, if we don't count individual American leagues as, you know, like AAA and double A because those are probably higher quality than Australia.
Australia might have like a top five baseball league in the world.
You know, after Japan and the U.S., it's probably pretty wide open.
Yeah.
You know, Netherlands, Korea, Australia, China.
Those are probably the next ones.
I could tell you much.
What about the Western Hemisphere?
Well, yeah, I think the various winter leagues are in a different,
uh, in a different category because those are all mostly, or a lot of major league guys.
Yeah. Mexico was probably
in that discussion because that's where a lot of
just out of the majors guys go to
hang out. I think Robinson Canoe was still playing there last year.
After Robbie Ray and Merrill Kelly, we got Joey Cantillo, who is
another SPARP here in a points league, Noah Cameron, Brendan Donovan,
and Jacob Marcy. I know we have
expressed some skepticism with Jacob Marcy, but
at 165, I don't think he was a great. He was a great.
in this format last year.
I don't think there's much risk there with that.
It walked a lot.
That was one thing he did consistently in the minors.
Two things he did.
Walk a lot, steal a lot of bases.
And, you know, walks will definitely help in this format.
Stealing bases, kind of underrated in this format,
since we give two points apiece for them.
So I think he's actually a better points league player,
Jacob Marcy than Brodo.
And I wouldn't have mind to taking him as my number two outfielder.
Maybe I should have done that instead of,
Instead of taking Robbie Ray, I'll have to figure out what to do instead.
All right, after Jacob Marcy, Chris selected Cody Ponce.
Yeah, once Joy Cantello went off, it's like, we're there.
We can stop in season on Sparks.
I thought about it at my pick to go ahead and take Cody Ponce.
Then, JJ Weatherholtz, Taylor Ward.
Now we're into round 15.
We got Glaber Torres and Kevin McGonigle.
So, look, Jake Holland drafted all the hype guys.
Great Dynasty team.
I think, you know, I think we mentioned it in one of the recent pods,
but I think McGonigal has become underrated.
That home run that he hit in the WBC yesterday,
not in the WBC, but against the Dominican Republic.
Against the Dominican Republic.
First pitch he saw, he just demolished it.
Yeah, he's the number two prospect in baseball.
He's a better prospect than JJ Weatherholt by basically everyone's estimation.
and Weatherholt is guaranteed a job, more or less.
McGonigal very much is not guaranteed a job,
but I think we're probably still at coin flip territory for McGonigle.
I don't think he's more likely to start the season in the minors than in the majors.
So I think it's a great pick.
I think he's underrated.
I mean, both him and Weatherholt should be point.
Should be.
Didn't McGonle walk like 15% of the time last year?
late-discipline standouts.
I believe more walks and strikeouts in the players.
It wasn't even close, yeah.
That home runny hit was hit so hard and so far.
And it was like he's not a big guy.
And the way it wasn't like a mussely,
it's not like he put a lot of muscle into the ball.
It was just the quickness of the swing, you know.
I was just going to say too, like he's,
he's smaller in height.
He's probably like 510 or something.
But he packs a punch.
bunch, man. He's kind of a built-out dude, Kevin McGonigle.
Yeah, it was 110. I think Frank, when we were in Arizona, we saw him hit a, I think it ended
up being a triple, like off the top of the wall, but I think he hit that one, like 109 or 11 or
something. He hit a couple. He's got the E-Bings for a Florida MVP. He was one of the best
hitters in the minors last year. He's a super talented player who I think is probably, you know,
if you're looking for the arbitrage opportunity, McGonigle is the way to go if you're looking
for one of those high upside rookies.
After McGonigal, we got Grayson Rodriguez who went to Chris,
then Reisel Iglesias, Jack Flaherty, and Andrew Abbott.
I believe it was yesterday or two days ago.
We spoke about Grayson Rodriguez as a sleeper for this season.
And at this point in the draft, why not?
Take a shot on some upside.
He's made a few starts here in the spring,
and the Velocity has looked pretty good there for Grayson Rodriguez.
Yeah, I thought his stuff looked pretty good.
overall. He's tweaking his slider.
The velocity was down on that pitch, but you told me he might be working on a kind of slurvier slider.
Yeah, he had a different slider when he was coming up as a prospect.
I want to say he kind of started throwing it differently just because of all the
the lad and elbow pain that he'd been dealing with the last few years.
But last spring, he was talking about throwing a more sweeper version of the slider.
And I think that's probably what we saw.
But his velocity was good.
You know, command was iffy,
but that's to be expected when you've barely pitched in two years.
All right.
After Andrew Abbott, we got Edward Cabrera.
We are one pick away from Scott in round 15.
And there we are.
Caleb Durbin goes off the board.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So I have two bench spots left that may be filled by starting pitchers.
I actually only have seven only.
I said Robbie Ray was my eighth.
It was my seventh.
I am trying to figure out a way to get a little upside from an outfielder at this point because, you know, with only three outfield spots to fill across 12 teams where there are decent outfielers left, but they just don't, there's not much separation between them, you know?
There's one.
is it the one I'm thinking of?
I don't know.
I'm building up to saying.
There's one you hate.
It's Mike Trout.
Yeah, okay.
It's Mike Trout.
Yeah, he obviously has significant upside.
He obviously does.
I mean, he stayed pretty healthy last year, and it was disappointing what he did.
Even in this format, 2.65 points per game is nothing to write home about.
Oh, he was not good last year.
Yeah.
His strikeout rate exploded, and it's been trending up for a while.
So why did I take him?
Just hoping he just hoping he he
Verses that trend a little bit
Every year before last year on a per game basis he was like at least 3.4 points per game
Yes, yes so he obviously has a track record of excelling
Obviously is Mike Trout but even even recently on a per game basis like you're saying and especially in this format so
So, you know, I'm not married to him.
It's round, what round is it?
15.
15.
Round 15 and a 21 round draft.
Like, everybody you draft at this point is disposable.
That you can say that about Mike Trout for all that could go wrong with them.
I think is, you're not in a bad spot if you're getting him in round 15 of a shallow league.
There are a lot of guys you have to kind of prey can be starting caliber outfielders at this point.
I really, Mike Trout, there are a lot of ways can go wrong, obviously, but there are fewer performance ways it can go wrong, I think.
I think he's more likely to be better than he was last year than the opposite, certainly.
All right, we are up here in round 15, the turn, and the last pick here I will select is Aranola, who,
coming off of last year, I've no clue if he has anything left, but you know what it is?
it's even year
Aaron Nola. In all seriousness,
I mean, I just, I think there's a chance
he can bounce back. He obviously gives you a lot of
innings, so from a points
league perspective, I think he'll be
a workhorse and we'll see
how much he has left in the tank.
I mean, he'll be fine in this format if he's a
425 ERA guy. It just can't
be the 6ERA guy he was last year.
Yeah, and look, we're
going to get some
live fire views
of Aaron Nola. He's going to be pitching for
Team Italy in the world baseball
classic. So we'll get a look. At least one
real competitive start from Aronola.
I did see a tweet
earlier today that said
one of his fastballs
hit like 94 miles per hour
and it was the hardest he had thrown since
I don't know like April of last
season or May so
it seemed like a
good little nugget there that you know maybe
the arms feeling good there for
for Nola and you know his velocity
has been trending down and I don't
think it's gonna go back up by any means, but if he can kind of sit in that like 92 mile per hour range
with that great curve ball, then probably could still be at least serviceable. And with my first
pick of round 16, I selected Braxton Ashcraft. So another one of these sparks here, lots of upside with
Braxton Ashcraft in the Pirates rotation. He was a prospect of note. He's got two different fastballs,
two different breaking balls.
Really good numbers in the Myers as well.
So excited to draft Braxton Ashcraft.
And then we got Nelvie Marte and Esauk Paredes,
who currently doesn't have a job.
But hopefully he will get one.
Well, he has a job.
Yes, it's to grab water for everybody else.
Not an everyday job.
I think he'll play close to every day, just bouncing around.
I am warming up to that idea more and more by the day.
Like he's having a good spring.
The Astros have to recognize he's one of their best three hitters, four hitters.
So I have to make a pick.
I'm going to take Shane McClanahan.
Now, I read this yesterday.
Well, I read this about his performance yesterday.
That kind of changed the way I looked at it.
And I don't have my notepad opened up because I had to restart my computer because
was it the 80%?
problems?
Yes, but beyond that, not taking that necessarily at phase value.
Okay, so let me just get into it because I'm speaking about it cryptically.
McClanahan averaged three miles per less, three miles per hour less on his fastball than the last time we saw him.
And he's coming back from, you know, all kinds of-
two different surgeries.
Tommy John's surgery and biceps nerve reports.
pair last year. Not a good development on its face. His last pitchy through though and that two-inning
stint was 96.7 miles per hour. And it wasn't just they said it wasn't just an isolated comment. Yeah,
I'm working the goal is to work at 80% intensity. Who can calibrate that even? This is the quote
that stood out to me. And again, it's not the only one. It's how everybody in the race organization is
talking, but this is what McLeanahan himself said.
To me, it was actually kind of fun.
I was like, I feel like I'm barely trying in terms of effort.
Compared to where I'd been previously with the intent of everything and the intensity
of max effort, that was fun.
So, like, that's a more revealing comment to me than just, yeah, I'm taking it a little
easy this spring.
Like, he noticed a difference in terms of how.
little effort he was putting into what he was doing and we saw in that last pitch it's still there
yeah no no no 96.7 that's what he used to average yeah that's right now he maxed but he maxed out
a hundred if he's throwing with less effort then of course he's going to average less but the idea
i think he used to max out at a hundred i'm looking at like his last start before the his second his second
to last start before the injury because I don't know maybe he was hurt during that start his
second to last start before his injury in 2023 he had uh nine pitches at 99 or higher
i just don't understand how that's relevant I don't see how it's not if he's throwing three
miles per hour less yeah like he's averaging three last hour and he's maxing three miles I took those
comments to mean he's not going to keep doing that he's going to throw more like he did on that last
pitch. I never, I just, maybe. Yeah, like, it's possible that he is, that quote, that quote makes it
clear, like, I am taking it easy. Like, this is easy. Like, you guys think this is tough. This is
easy. I'm going to quote, the real expert, Dr. Dave McDonald, players lie about their health.
Like, that is just like the baseline players are all like, that's a well-crafted lie, though.
That's not just, that's not a pre-procrant.
That is an emotive in the moment response that I just read off to you.
That is not staring blank-faced into the cabra.
Yeah, just 80% effort.
Yeah.
Like that was a motive.
That was not a rehearsed line.
It's possible you're right.
But for me, when we're talking about, and I wrote about this for the FBT Newsletter,
I think it's on the site in my breakouts column.
When we're talking about the specifics of Shane McLean-Han situation,
I think we should mention again, he hasn't pitched since August of 2023. It's two and a half
years of not like pitching in active games, basically. He had a second Tommy John surgery in September
of 2023. He came back from that, tried to start pitching last year. It's a disaster. He cannot
pitch without getting hurt, without feeling himself. Now, by all accounts, he feels better than he did
last year. That's great. I'm thrilled to hear that. But then the one time we've seen him,
his velocities down three miles an hour, he's maxing out at what his average used to be.
I'm not saying, Shane McClain-
He didn't say that was as hard as I could possibly throw on that last bench.
He maxed out in his start. We have, the hardest we have seen Shane McClaintingham throw in two
and a half years is what he used to average. Yeah. And for me, it just comes to,
down to my baseline assumption is he is never going to be the same guy or anything close to that
and I need evidence to overcome that it's the same it's where I'm at with Spencer strider
I need to I need an affirmative reason to believe after everything Shane McClan had been through
at 29 years old that he can still be that guy and I did not get that in the first start that doesn't
mean he can't do it moving forward.
And look, he's going cheap enough that I don't care, right?
Like where I, I took it where I ranked them all along.
So it's not like it was, I just, before I was like, I'm just explaining why I didn't
think it was encouraging.
I don't really want any.
Well, I was, the comments out of Ray's camp were so overwhelmingly positive that I was
trying to see, okay, what are they seeing that I'm not seeing here?
And so I dug into it a little more.
And I just, the nature of the comments was so different from.
kind of the Cliff Notes version that I was seeing.
And that's what I wanted to stress there.
And maybe you don't see it, but that's, you know, who knows.
I would love to be wrong.
I'm absolutely running against him.
Shane McClain at his best was about as fun as pitching gets.
But I just, for me to buy in, I need affirmative evidence that he can study that.
At 200, though, would you buy it?
At 200, it's fine.
At 200, I don't care yet.
It's more, he was,
one of the biggest rankings risers from January to February. I think he went from like 250 to
220 in the ADP. And that's where it's like, well, there's nothing there. Like there's no reason for
Shane McClain to be moving up. So I think he's fine 220, 250, 200, whatever. That's cheap enough that
like that's probably going to be a bad pitcher either way. I'm just explaining why I came out of that
start. It didn't give me what I needed to see to move Shane McClain-Han up.
All right.
There were some picks.
There were a lot of picks.
So I will catch everybody up.
Yeah, I mean, Shane McClain is kind of one of these spark plug conversation players right now.
After Scott selected him in round 16, we got Marcus Semyon.
184 technically, not 200.
Oh, a terrible pick.
There was Shane O'Mack, Marcus Semyon, Jack Leiter, Louisa Rice, Trevor McGill,
Shane Boz, Dale and Lyle went to Chris
Then we got Garrett Cole and Teoscar Hernandez
And then into round 17
Can I, Shane Boz
Might be throwing his slider again
It's very unclear, but the data showed
That he had a
That he threw a slider for the first time
Since like last May and that it was
Significantly different than the slider he threw last season
And that's something that we've
talked a lot about with Shane Boz when he was a prospect. The slider was his best pitch.
And it's not clear if it's like he said he's throwing, he said he's throwing his slider
with his cutter grip and just tweaking it. It looks like they've been reclassified as knuckle
curve. So I don't, I have actually no idea what the, what that looked like. But Shane Boz is
throwing a slider. That that's from what Shane Boss said. Oh, no. All right. After we are into
round 17.
We got Zach Allen, Andrew Painter.
Reed Detmer's went to Chris,
so cornering the SPARP market
there. Matt McLean
and his massive spring. Logan
Henderson, Daniel Palencia, Trevor Story.
Kyle Leahy is
a name we have not talked about, but he is
a SPARP, and I
believe he is in
competition for one of the
Cardinals' rotation spots there.
Jeff Hoffman went to Scott,
Zebby Matthews, Ryan Helsley,
At the turn, I selected Sean Mania and Emilio Pagan.
So I've got one spark and one closer.
And then Yiner Diaz, Ryan Weathers, Shane Bieber to Scott and Abner Arebe.
So.
I did want to add on Matt McLean because we, I don't know.
I've never been much of a believer in McLean.
But he is using a different bat this spring.
he had a lot of trouble with pitches low and away from him.
And so he swapped out his 33 inch bat for a 33 and a half inch bat,
which does not sound like a particularly big deal to me,
but that was something that the Reds broadcasters were talking about the other day,
that, you know, they were, you know, trying to,
I'm trying to look for reasons why it's not just Matt McLean had a good five days
to open his spring training schedule.
And that is the most tangible change that I have seen mentioned about Matt McLean.
So wanted to throw that out there.
I am a noted Matt McLean skeptic,
but maybe there's something,
maybe that extra half inch on the bat is all the difference.
There was something also,
it was something in his approach changed
to help him against sliders on the outside edge.
I can't remember what it was now,
but the length of the bat was part of that,
just making it a little longer to reach them better,
but also a change in approach to deal with them,
which I know was a turning point in Austin Riley's career
when he was really bad at the start, remember, striking out a ton.
And he did something similar,
it sounds like to what McLean is doing.
I remember, like, one of the most controversial stories Scott White ever wrote
wasn't anti-Austin Riley.
You remember that?
Well, because he was one of those guys who came up
and homered like eight times in 18 games or something like that
and was just the talk of the town.
It's like, I don't know, this guy's making enough contact.
That was obviously six years ago.
Ancient history.
28 short.
It was whenever, whenever Austin Riley's career started,
there have been,
there have been different versions of Austin Riley over the years.
I was going back through my mentions because someone tweeted at me last night,
every single thing that they heard about the changes for Matt McLean.
But then I guess they deleted the,
Oh no. They don't want their competitors to know.
Yeah, I don't know who sent it. But it was a listener because we were talking about Matt McLean
and maybe it was two nights ago. I might have to go further back. But yeah, it was a lot of
things that you mentioned. It was a different bat. I think he tweaked his batting stance a little
bit. And so there are tangible changes here that we can look at with Matt McLean that have
resulted in a good spring so far for him. After Scott selected Shane Bieber, there was
Abner Arebe, Alec, Alec, Boehm, Jonathan Arronda at 211. That's a lot.
Sounds pretty nice.
I like that.
Jacob Lopez, Addison Barger, Carter Jensen to Chris.
Yvonne Herrera.
I was wondering if one of you guys who didn't have a catcher would select Yvonne
Herrera with the hope of throwing him a catcher.
I was deliberating between Jensen and Herrera.
It's just I've already got two hitters on my bench.
Well, my first two picks were Schwerber and Raleigh.
Oh, yeah.
So I was looking at Herrera.
I forgot you had Raleigh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Three or four rounds ago.
And it's like there's,
Even if he gets catcher eligibility, there's no way for him in my line.
Right, right, that makes sense.
But that is a great pick at this point.
215 in a one catcher format.
I mean, gosh, by the end of April, he could have that catcher eligibility
and be a top six-ranked catcher from that point forward.
And then we got Danesby Swanson, and we are into round 19,
Quinn Priester and Mike Burroughs, man, I am telling you,
this Jake Holland guy, he is crushing us today, man.
He is taking all the deal.
dudes, man, all the guys we want.
I was...
And I'm gonna end this draft with Charlie Condon.
Ah, I should have...
All the hyped guys.
Should have taken Mike Burroughs last pick, but...
I just liked that Sean Mania,
someone I do like, but...
Man, maybe I need to just move Burroughs even higher.
I think that might be the answer.
Make sure you get them.
I'm not bringing any news here,
but man, you know what stinks?
Is waiting on your first basement.
That's just...
Woo, that's not a good time, guys.
Not enjoying...
Not enjoying the options here.
I'm going to go with my sleeper at starting pitcher.
I think there's some good first basement there.
There's some very boring, samey guys who aren't worth taking right now.
I'll just, my last one.
Yeah, not really good for a points league, the ones that are left.
I'll just say Spencer Torkelson, I think, is underrated generally.
I think Gutreras could actually be good in a points league.
2.69 points per game for Torkelson last year.
2.77 for Wilson Contreras.
I mean, 2.8 from your first basement in round 19, that wouldn't be bad.
It's, but it's not good.
But it's, it's, it's a, it's not.
And I think he can be somebody, I don't think he's the kind of player that could close ground on the high end guys, which is.
I think he could be even better in Boston too.
So I think he could maybe even push like three fantasy points in the game.
That's the one that's weird because his pulled air rate was like 20% last year.
I think it was the second highest of his career.
And then if you look at his home
And if you look at his home runs by ballpark,
it was like comically low in Boston.
It was like 12.
But it's also just a much better team context.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Better team.
Great ballpark for batting average.
I could see it.
I just think the longer history.
The longer history of Wilson Katrero shows that guy who fast majority of his fly balls
are to the opposite field,
which would be bad news at Fenway Park for a right-handed hitter.
Again, batting cleanup, though, for that team.
I think that's like the top three ahead of him.
He's going to have Roman Anthony and Jaron Duran and missing somebody.
But I can see Torkelson being fine.
I can see Contreras being pretty good.
I can see Munitaka Marcombe being useful, even with the strikeout rate.
Because he's going to walk a lot, he's going to hit for a lot of power.
But none of these guys are, one, guaranteed to be good or two, any better than any other guys.
Keep it.
You have nine hitter spots to get.
an advantage over your competition. If you have that big of a liability at one of them, it's huge.
Yep.
Not that I'm not going to have a liability. I will too.
After Mike Burroughs, there was Parker Messick, Roki Sasaki, Xavier Edwards, Trent Grisham, Shane
Smith, and Bailey Ober. Scott, you are back up. This is your third to last pick.
Hmm. I was going to do one thing, but now I think I'm going to do another.
Dylan Cruz
And those are the two options
Let's just
One thing or the other
Or another
Yeah let's shoot for upside with Dylan Cruz
Hopefully he breaks out
I was thinking Andy Pahez
Ramon Lauriano
Joe Adele's still out there
But that's kind of the issue
Chris is facing at first base
In this format
Those guys are assured mediocrity
And Dylan Cruz
He wasn't as good as them last year
But
You hope he's
he makes that leap.
And if he doesn't, you fall back on one of those guys on the waiver wire later.
All right.
We are in round 19.
We've got two more to go after this round, 20 and 21.
We'll recap our teams after that.
Take a look.
I will say it kind of got lost in the shuffle as I was struggling to find upside in the outfield.
Went with Mike Trout that one round.
I probably need to move Daylon Lyle up in this format because he went.
and it was one of those,
should have taken him.
He wasn't as good as I thought in this format.
And maybe that's just,
I don't know,
the run production was probably pretty bad in a way that.
Well, two of his first three months,
he wasn't a true everyday player.
Yeah, I guess I don't know how much he was starting.
He really took off in September.
Yeah.
Which it's not fair to say,
okay, September is who Dailin Lyle is.
But in September,
let me see if I could find the number,
real quick.
So it was 2.85 overall.
I mean, if you've been listened to,
that's,
you know,
that's higher than Wilson Contreras.
It's low and starting.
339 in September.
Seven triples.
We'll do that.
Yeah.
I mean,
he's not going to be that good
all season long.
But if we think,
like,
if you're just look at his July,
August numbers,
it's like,
well,
this guy isn't that big of a deal.
Obviously,
we're factoring in his September
a lot in our assessment of him.
So I don't know.
It's,
I'd prefer him to,
even Dylan Cruz.
And he was closer to like 2.95 in points per game in his starts.
So, you can tweak the numbers to push it up a little more.
That does make a difference with the point per game averages.
Sometimes you go look and a guy had 19 appearances off the bench while another guy had three.
And it's like, well, that makes a difference when you're doing per game, how much they actually played in the game.
At the turn, I selected a pair of twins.
Royce Lewis and Mick Abel.
I just added Abel to my cue.
He wasn't my top pitcher, but I was looking at him, yeah.
Yeah.
Very impressive spring training so far.
Yeah, I think he has something like 22 swinging strikes
on 89 pitches so far this spring.
And his fastball velocity has been up.
He's getting a lot of whiffs with that pitch.
He was the centerpiece of the return in the Yon-Duran trade last year
from the Phillies.
So we'll see.
I don't know that Mick Able,
will be in the rotation to start the season,
but obviously has a lot of upside as a stash.
And then Royce Lewis,
I have Matt Chapman as my third basement,
who's kind of more like a high floor option,
so take a shot on some third base upside here with Royce Lewis.
And Scott, you are back here.
Yeah, I'm trying to see if there are any good sparse left.
There are sparse.
I don't know that they're good, but...
I'm going to take Brian a brayu.
That's my second reliever.
And, you know, when Josh Hader comes back, if Josh Hater comes back,
they'll probably be like a Dennis Santana, Sir Anthony Dominguez type I could pick up.
I'll take the upside while I have it.
And that's that in this format, like, everybody is so disposable.
Every player you draft is so disposable because this is the format where you have to play
the way of wire aggressively.
You have to turn half your team over over the course of the season to have a chance.
So you take the upside when it's there to contribute, and you don't stress so much when it's not.
Because the waiver wire is always offering up new things and you don't want to play it safe.
Yeah.
And yeah, you have to play that waiver wire and pay close attention to it because last year in our head-to-head points listener league, same format, 12 teams, shallower rosters.
I was able to pick up both George Springer and Byron Buckson off the waiver wire,
which might sound crazy to some, but, you know, Springer was barely drafted in leagues last year.
And then Buxden got hurt a few times, and I think when he went on the IL, he got dropped.
And it was like fairly early in the season.
So in a league this shallow, you just, you really got to pay attention to,
especially some of those veteran guys that get released onto the waiver wire.
So after you selected Brian to Brayew Scott, there was Ian Seymour,
somebody I like a lot for the talent.
He is a spark, but currently looks like he's on the outside looking in to the
raise rotation.
Yeah, stashes like that are hard in this league, too, because you need to cycle through
so many, you need to cycle through so many streamer pitchers to start options,
having just a bench spot on a stash.
Like stashing a guy in an aisle spot, different story.
Obviously, but on your bench.
Yep.
I love it.
That's why I'd rather do the Carlos Rodon, Garrett Cole.
Yeah.
Shane Bieber stash than the Robbie Snelling stash.
I do think it's infinitely easier to do in a weekly lineup league than a daily lineup
league.
Yes.
Because in a daily lineup league, you really need to turn and burn those bench spots
as much as humanly possible.
And in a weekly league, you do to your points, guy, like picking up two-star pitchers and
stuff.
But, you know, once your lineup is kind of locked for that week, you can have, I think,
you know, one guy on the bench.
but I mean one advantage
I've said it a few times
how much I don't like
taking high-end pitchers in this format
if you do take high-end pitchers in this format
it opens up your bench more
yes yeah
because you don't have to play
the streamer game so much
but the streamer strategy is so effective
that I just
I'd rather just not have a bench
I know I know waiver wire
the waiver wire basically serves as my bench
because it's so abundant
you know who I think we're
we've jumped the shark on
downgrading.
I just made the 238th pick,
and it's Bryce Miller.
I had Bryce Miller as a bus last year.
It was a very bad season.
He pitched through elbow soreness.
He never got surgery to repair the bone spurs in his elbow.
I get all the reasons.
And then he's dealing with,
they never, like, specified if it was an oblique.
It was just like a side issue,
but he's already throwing.
It sounds like he might not be ready for the start of the season,
but doesn't sound like it's going to ruin his season.
Bryce Miller with the second to last pick.
Yeah.
That seems good.
He was the top 100 pick last year and you just got him at 238.
Yeah.
Personally, I think he's broken, but I mean, at this point, it doesn't matter.
Entirely possible, yeah.
Yeah, you could just, if he's broken, you just drop him.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I have him ranked on.
He went, he went, I don't think he was my top ranked pitcher here, but
there's, there's no complaint.
about the pick. It could work out great.
One other pitcher I wanted to highlight here, and I know like the Yankees rotation is filled
with a bunch of kind of these peripheral pieces and Garrick Cole and Rodon will be back at
some point. Will Warren this spring, his sweeper velocity has been up two to three miles per hour
in each of his two starts. He had six whiffs on his fastball in his first outing.
He's been getting tons of whiffs. He had eight total whiffs on 50 pitches in his second outing,
four on the fastball, two on the sweeper, two on the sinker.
So it's a small sample, but the velocity up
and he's getting lots of whiffs, so just thought I would bring that up
with Will Warren.
After he went, we got Carlos Correa, Joe Adele, Brian Beow,
Bryce Miller to Chris, Connolly Early,
so there's another potential stash for you.
Spencer Torkelson, Spencer Schwellenbach,
into the last round of the draft,
so throw him on the IL, hope he's back in July or August,
whatever it might be.
Pete Fairbanks,
Kobe Mayo to Chris,
starting opening day third basement.
All those boring first baseman are still going to be on waivers.
Let's see if Kobe Mayo can do something here in April.
You guys are doing Wilson Contreras dirty, man.
I'm telling you.
But he's almost like there's what,
apics left.
He's probably not going to get drafted.
Yeah, he's not.
So,
worst case scenario,
I'm going to drop Carlos Rodon.
I'm going to take it with my last pick now.
But just to put him in the I.
Allen.
Just to prove you wrong, Chris, I'm going to take one of the first.
Maybe.
Robbie Snelly.
There is another stash candidate to start the season, I would assume.
Nick Martinez and one of those sparse I was referring to, I don't know if he's good, but he's a spark.
Yeah, we're beyond the point of sparks I care about personally.
Not that Nick Martinez couldn't be a streamer in this format.
Yeah.
But that's all he could be.
I think especially on the raise, it's going to be five innings every time out.
That sounds right
All right
Stick around after the draft
We'll quickly recap our teams
And you guys can let us know
In the comments
Who has the best team among us
You will decide
And there you go Chris
Wilson Gutreras just got drafted
Boom
I didn't even have to do it
It's okay
I know the guy who picked him
listens to the podcast
So I can't get mad
We appreciate your support
And your spite
I need a week one starter at third base with my last pick here.
Oh, geez.
And even for a league this shallow, it's, ugh.
It's for one week, so I don't care that much, but still.
If the Rockies are at home, you've got Willie Castro staring it, staring you in the face.
I just don't like, I can't pull up the schedule.
I just don't like that one of these guys is going to end up being drafted because I have to slide a third base minute.
Yeah, that's fair.
I'm going to say, I'm going to do Jordan Lawler.
If he makes the team, there's upside there.
If he doesn't, I'll swap him out for Miguel Vargas or Colt Keith or whatever for that one week until
until Beau Bichette slots in as my third baseman.
All right, we are one pickaway from me.
And Mr. Irrelevant will be just because I want him to be drafted and get him in the minds of people with this injury to Hunter Green.
If Hunter Green is out long term, is Rhett Louder, who I believe would take his spot in the rotation
former seventh overall pick back in 2023
and had a great minor league season in 2024.
So I think he's a name that should be on our radar now.
Yeah, I agree.
He was technically in competition for Chase Burns
and I don't know that any of us was taking it that seriously.
But I think it was more serious than...
I don't think it was entirely unsurious.
And the way Ret Louder has looked through his first two starts made me a little nervous.
I think the likeliest scenario is Hunter Green ends up on the dial for some length of time.
And so it's probably a moot point at this point.
You can draft Burns with as much confidence as ever.
But Ret Louder is making a case.
Ret Louder today, by the way, three shutout innings with three strikeout zero walks.
He's having a very good spring.
I made the comp to Andrew Abbott.
it's a different version of that.
Abbott, extreme fly ball pitcher.
Loudder, a pretty good ground ball pitcher.
But that like mid-3s ERA,
useful whip,
probably less than a strikeout per inning type of thing.
I think Ret Louder could do that.
Ten whiffs on 43 pitches,
four on the slider, four on the changeup?
Yep.
I don't know.
Ret Louder, I think he's on the radar.
So that is a name that we need to know.
All right, let's quickly recap by taking a look at each of our teams here,
and I will pull it up for those watching on YouTube.
And we will start with Chris's team.
He was drafting third overall in this one, and let's go.
Into the hitter part of the team.
We've got Carter Jensen, Kobe Mayo, Jazz Chisholm,
Jose Ramirez, Francisco Lindor,
Roman Anthony, Brandon Nemo, Kyle Stowers, and Christian Yellow.
On the bench here, you have Connor Griffin and Dailen Lyle.
So I know your first four picks were all hitters, right, Chris?
How do you think it turned out here?
It's fine.
It's fine.
I don't, I'm not in love with it.
For my first four picks being hitters, I would probably feel better about it.
Or I would probably wish I feel better about it.
But look, if Lindorz himself and he misses a couple of weeks,
if Yelich is as good as he was last year,
if Roman Anthony takes that step forward,
it's going to be very good.
It's just, I wish I was more.
Let's not forget you have Connor Griffin on your bench.
I have Connor Griffin on the bench.
Dail and Lyle could be a good starting outfielder in this format.
It's a good offense.
It's not a dominant offense, I think.
Well, it's really just first base.
Like, Jazz Chesim stud at second.
Hoseaer, Stut at third.
Lendor's studded short.
Anthony, I think in this format, we didn't talk about it that much,
but he was on a hundredths his 162 game pace last year was just 18 home runs and yet he
averaged nearly three points per game yeah so he's got to get a little better but it could be
an impact player for sure your second and third outfielders look i like nimo in this format a lot
stowers average three points per game they're not studs but they're must starts yeah um and jensen
i think has huge upside catcher so like i feel i feel great about your lineup with the very
Notable exception of first base, where I...
It's going to be Kobe Mayo and cycling through until someone is decent.
I thought about Andrew Vaughn.
Yeah.
Thought about Wilson Contreras.
Nolan Shanwell is ultimate bottom-in scenario.
I thought about Charlie Condon.
Interestingly enough, your pick of Connor Griffin, if he is up on opening day and he just
like breaks out, you've got Lindora at shortstop and yell at utility.
So it's like, I guess it's good.
you know, trade value or whatever.
But yeah, interesting, interesting pick there.
It would be great if Connor Griffin had like a really good week and a half to start the season.
Lindor comes back and I can flip Connor Griffin for a first baseman.
Perfect.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
On the pitching side of things here, you've got Cole Regens, Jesus Lozardo, Chase Burns, Sandy Alcansra, Carlos Rodon.
Your relievers, you have a Reid Detmer's and Cody Ponce.
So going with the two sparks there.
and then on the bench, you've got some upside with Parker Messick,
Gracie Rodriguez, Bryce Miller.
So you didn't take your first pitcher until round five,
and it looks pretty good to me.
I think it's fine.
It's risky, you know, with Reagan's Lozardo and Burns at the top of the list.
I think Sandy.
That's a good top three as far as I'm concerned.
A true number one, a true number two, a true number three.
And the number three has number one upside.
In talent, yes.
In talent, it's potentially three aces.
You know, but...
The depth concerns me a little more than the top end for not...
For not spending, not having spent the...
I mean, you did get a true ace in Reagan's, but...
Yeah, but I think Rodon, hopefully he's back relatively early and is himself, which is not a guarantee,
even if it's, you know, not reconstruction surgery, it's still elbow surgery and things can go wrong.
I like the upside of Grayson Rodriguez, Bryce Miller, and Parker Messrs.
But there's a decent chance opening day. Parker Messick's not in the rotation and Bryce Miller's almost certainly on the IL to start the season
In which case, I have zero starting because Rodon is going on the IL
Bryce Miller's going on the I'll have to make some pickups, but there are
You know, I have no idea what the matchups look like, but you know looking at the at the guys who didn't get drafted
Kodi Senga should be useful
Tyler Malley honestly if they're at home I think he's gonna be pretty good
yeah home starts for useful yeah there's always depth yeah there will be guys all you need is
depth there's always depth yeah so I feel pretty good about it I don't I don't think it's
like a great team I don't think it's the instant favorite but it's it could be pretty good it's
I think the important thing to remember in a format of shallow is this is every team is a work in
progress nobody nobody comes out of the draft saying that's it
This is my team.
Except during my auction the other day.
That was it.
Really what I tried to do, and my auction strategy, I think, shows it even more, is get as many foundational pieces as you can.
Just rock solid, never going to be moved, clear differentiators, and work magic around them.
Like, try to find more of those guys in season off the Waverwire.
Hope you landed some in drafts.
But you need as many of those true studs as you can get.
and try not to leave yourself with a total black hole in a position.
That's really the only two things I worry about doing in this format.
Before we get to Scott's team, World Baseball Classic Update, Travis Bazana on the board.
Let's go.
He's got such a weird swing, though.
Yeah.
I've been chased a lotter.
Guardian's got some weird swingers.
Yeah, he's like falling away from the ball as he's swinging.
It's very odd.
The bat speed seems pretty legit, though.
No, that was a, no doubter that he just hit.
And he had a hit earlier.
I think he had the first hit of the World Baseball Classic.
Yeah, yeah.
He's got multiple hits so far in this game.
Again, that's Travis Bazano with Team Australia of the World Baseball Classic.
Let's take a look at Scott's team.
He was drafting ninth in this one, and he's got the Big Dumpa.
Cal Raleigh, followed by Freddie Freeman, Bryce Terang,
Jordan Lawler at third, just to fill in until Bo Bichette gets third base eligibility.
Mookie Betz and then in the outfield we've got George Springer, Mike Trout, and Dylan Cruz.
Oh, and Kyle Schorber, I should probably mention.
He's a utility hitter.
Yes.
Yeah.
I did not realize you had Cruz as a starting outfielder.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's my black hole.
You got first base.
I got my third outfield spot.
And really, I don't feel great about Trout as my number two either.
Now, the rest of the lineup is awesome.
They're all foundational people.
pieces guys that are immovable.
You didn't mention one.
Which one?
Boba Shat.
Yeah, no, Frank mentioned it.
Oh, okay.
You mentioned it.
I'm counting him as one of those foundational pieces at third base.
Yeah, absolutely.
So it's just that second and third outfield spot.
And that's a good position to go weak at, at least in a three outfielder league,
because there are so many emergent players there.
So I feel better.
I hit pitching so hard, tried to,
build up so much depth there that maybe I cost myself a better second outfielder.
And I don't know, we'll look at the pitching staff and see if it would have been better
taking a, like an actual good second outfielder.
But I'm not unhappy with this.
Yeah, I mean, looking at the waiver wire, you've got, look, if Chandler Simpson's hitting leadoff
for the raise, he could be great.
He walked three times today.
It was between him and Cruz for that third spot.
Yeah.
Ramon Luriano has been a starting caliber outfielder for the last year and a half or
So, good at him as well.
Justin Crawford could get there.
Yeah.
The trio of rookies that are still available.
Actually, four.
Dylan Beaver's, Owen Casey, Chase the Lodder, and Carson Benge.
Carson Benge could be really good in points.
He's just homer too, right?
Yeah, he had his first homer today.
So, yeah, there are, if you need to find depth,
starting pitcher and outfield will have depth in a points league for sure with how shallow these
rosters are.
It hurt, honestly, the pro far suspension hurt because he's so good in this.
format.
I wanted as my second outfielder
one of Nimmo,
HAP, or in the past I would have said pro far,
one of those three. I had three bites at that Apple.
Nimmo went pretty early here,
and I just missed out on HAP.
There was no pro far anymore.
I mean, I'm open to trade, Scott.
If you want to use HAP, we could do it.
Let's look at the pitching.
Let's take a look at your pitching staff.
I didn't take one until
round, it was Povetta.
The first one I took was that nine?
I'm not sure.
I think around eight.
Yeah, it was pretty late, yeah.
Round eight, it might have been.
But you do have Nick Povetta, Cam Schlittler, Tatsuya Imi,
Brandon Woodruff, Baba Chandler.
Your relievers are Jeff Hoffman and Brian and Breu.
On the bench, you have Robbie Ray, Joe Musgrove, Shane O. Mac.
Here comes the money.
Here we go.
Money talks.
Here comes the money.
And Shane O'Beber.
Shane O'Beeper.
Help of broken down, Shane's.
Shane O'Beb's.
So let's just pretend Bieber and McLeanahan aren't there because they are lottery tickets.
I mean, I still got my two bench pitchers are Joe Musgrove and Robbie Ray.
Musgrove I like a lot.
Robbie Ray for two-thirds of last season pitched really well.
Povetta as an ace is, you know, it's not anyone's idea of an ace,
but then Woodruff, Chandler, Schlittler, and my, lots of upside there, excess on my bench.
I don't think my pitching is a problem here at all.
I think my, I don't know if maybe, did I take Robbie Ray over Ian Hap?
Maybe that was the move that I could have done differently to feel better about my outfield.
But that might be the only thing I would change.
Nope, nope, Hap went in between my Musgrove and Ray picks.
And I definitely wanted Musgrove, so I think that's fine.
Remember what we said yesterday about the Zero RB football teams?
Like, Scott, you have a great team, but you don't have an ace.
I don't have an ace.
Yes, I don't think I need an ace, is the point.
Fair enough.
Especially in this format.
In hindsight, we said we would check back on this.
Were you okay starting Util Catcher?
Do you think your team turned out all right?
Yeah, I think so.
I would have had more options.
the utility hurt more than catcher.
I would have had
I think your outfield would definitely
better. Ash Nailer or flexible.
And there is a chance Kyle Swarber gains
outfield eligibility in season.
Might not be a huge chance,
but it was,
it happened in like May last year, I think.
There are so many
hitters. I think there was an injury that happened, that's why.
Who at cost, I would have been thrilled to
take if I didn't, if they weren't
blocked at utility. But
I'm not really complaining about the way my lineup
worked out. I think I'm going to stick with ranking Schwarber as a first rounder in this format,
and Cal Raleigh is a borderline first rounder ahead of Catellmarty.
All right, let's wrap up taking a look at my team here, and I was picking at the turn,
so pick 12 out of 12 teams. And let's dive into the hitting side. First, we've got Drake Baldwin
at Catcher, followed by Bryce Harper, Luke Keishel, Matt Chapman, Corey Seeger,
in the outfield Fernando Tatez, Cody Bellinger, Ian Hap,
and then Jeremy Pena at Utility.
I've got Royce Lewis on the bench to provide some upside for Matt Chapman here.
Look, the lineup, the hitting lineup, not nearly as good as you guys.
I don't have like elite standout type players,
but I think that they are all players that should do well in this specific format.
And again, I went much harder on pitching than you guys.
I think based on the pitchers I have, I can totally live.
and get by with these hitters in my lineup.
You don't have the black hole spot.
You don't have Scott's third outfielder or my first baseman.
You have solid starters everywhere.
You just don't have...
It's a higher floor, but not a high ceiling.
You don't have quite as many different makers,
but look, Lucchiechel might be a 10% walk, 15% strikeout guy.
He could become a difference maker this year.
Yeah.
Corey Seeger will absolutely be a difference maker
as long as he's on the field.
It's just, is that for 10 weeks?
Is that for 20 weeks?
If it's 20 weeks, you're going to be very good.
And I didn't plan this out, but taking Jeremy Pena, he can slot in for Seeger if Seeger gets hurt.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
On the pitching side of things, as I mentioned, I went very hard with pitchers.
I got, I think, three in the first seven rounds or something like that.
Definitely two in the first four.
Got Garret Crochet, Chris Sill, Dylan Sees, Nick Lodolo, Emmett Sheehan, and then relievers,
I've got Braxton Ashcraft for a SPARP and Emilio Pagan as one of my closers.
And then on the bench I've got Aranola, Sean Mania, McAbel, and Rhett Louder.
So, I mean, it's amazing.
It's awesome pitching staff.
Yeah, I'm a machine that's your number five is awesome.
And Ret Louder, Aaron Nola, McAbel, there's some real upside on the bench.
Your pitching staff, Sean Minia, too.
Yeah.
Your pitching staff is by far the best of us.
Yeah, none of us messed this up.
That's my takeaway.
Yeah, I think so.
I think it's interesting.
It just depends how well we play during the season.
I think it's interesting, Scott, to kind of juxtapose the teams that you and I put together
because, again, you didn't take a pitcher until round seven or eight, whatever it was,
and I took three in the first seven picks.
And I think either, like, there are multiple ways to win.
I think both of our teams turned out pretty solid all around.
All right, there you go.
We are going to wrap there.
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