Fantasy Baseball Today - 2021 All-Rookie Team plus First-Year Player Draft Rankings! (2/1 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: February 1, 2021

Now that we had the weekend to process the reported Nolan Arenado trade, would Scott still take Rafael Devers over Arenado? ... Which rookie will make the biggest impact in 2021 (3:25)? How does Ian Anderson compare to veteran starting pitchers being drafted in the same range? ... On to news and notes, Didi Gregorius re-signed with the Phillies (7:55)? The MLB has proposed a deal to the player's association that would delay the season a month. What's the latest on that? ... We're starting the 2021 all-rookie team with our pitchers who include Triston McKenzie and Michael Kopech (22:45). ... What should we expect from Dylan Carlson (28:21)? Alex Kirilloff needs more love. ... Will Alejandro Kirk play enough and will Bobby Dalbec overcome his strikeouts (34:15)? ... Nick Madrigal should provide speed but will he be healthy (39:47)? ... Are we concerned with Ke'Bryan Hayes' team context plus when will Wander Franco debut (42:20)? ... We wrap up with our first-year player draft rankings (47:41). Spencer Torkelson is number one and then what? Where do international signings fit in? ... Email us at [e-mail]. Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank, @AdamAizer Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. I drive, center field, and swing. This is magnificent. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy becomes reality. Now here's Frank Scott, Chris, and Adam.

We've got your all-rooky team for 2021, first-year player draft rankings, and much more. Welcome to Fantasy Baseball today. And welcome to February. Happy Monday. February 1st, Frank Stamphill joined by Scott White, who had a very eventful weekend. What's going on, Scott? Oh, not much, Frank. What made my weekend eventful? I don't even know what you're referring to. We were just talking beforehand, and Scott said his weekend was not very long, and he spent a lot of it working, so I just thought we'd lead with that. Well, that is all thanks to the Nolan Aeronado trade Friday night.

Got all of the old Friday night trade, which isn't even official, by the way. but we're all ready to go what it is. Yeah, that's exactly right. And we mentioned that when we did our emergency podcast, the reported trade, Nolan Aronado, heading to the St. Louis Cardinals for Austin Gomber and a few prospects speculating as of now. Scott, you've had the whole weekend to think about it.

On Friday, you made the claim that you would take Rafael Devers over Nolan Aronado now. Are you sticking with it? Yeah, I'm sticking with it. And it's one of the things where as soon as Devers goes off the board, provided, you know, that's what the ADP is going to show that Devers goes ahead of Aeronado. As soon as Devers is off the board, okay, I'll be happy to take Aeronado at that point.

It's just, you know, a little, the added risk there of not really being sure how he's going to adapt to his environment, I think he'll be okay. He'll suffer a little bit. It's hard to think he's going to be exactly the same as he was in Colorado. But I think he should still be great. You know, we were already downgrading Aeronado, though. And in my mind, it was because of how, you know, his 2020 season performance was kind of shaky, dealing with a shoulder injury.

Where does that stand now? Is it entirely to blame for his step back? You know, probably, but we're already playing it a little safe with him because of that. And I think there's another reason to play it safe with him. So, yeah, I'm fine leaving Aeronado for somebody else unless I get him for what in my mind would be a discount, which is going after Rafael Devers, going somewhere in the 45 to 50 range. and then I'll be happy to be the one who takes the chance on him there. Yep, Aronado's ADP, before this trade was 29.

He was a consistent third round pick, and I mentioned in our reaction that I think him potentially being traded was baked into that ADP already, but yes, it's going to fall. I think it should fall to the fourth round. I would still take him ahead of Rafael Devers, but I don't blame you for wanting to take the safety of Raphael Devers, just because he's not changing locations, he's not changing venues, remains with the same team.

So it does add an aspect of just something we're not, uncertainty for Nolan Aronado. But again, you can go back and listen to that on demand in our podcast feed. And of course, on our YouTube, we're going to be talking a lot about rookies that can make an impact this season. And of course, first year player draft rankings for Dynasty, which led me to this, Scott. I wanted to ask you right at the top,

Which rookie do you expect to make the biggest impact in 2021 redraft leagues? Well, I should probably go with the one I ranked the highest, right? Which is Ian Anderson, Ian Anderson, now, you know, it feels funny to call him a rookie because he was such a big part of the 2020 season and in the postseason he dominated. And he feels pretty proven at this point. But, you know, technically still a rookie. regular season innings only 32 and a third. And, you know, we've seen players take a step back after that.

It's just the strikeout potential, the ground ball potential. They both look so good for him. And yeah, he's the one I take first. Now, there is a possibility they play it safe with the innings. I would say it's a likelihood they play it safe with the innings. And so maybe in terms of just raw stats, somebody like Randy Arrows Arena, ends up being the more impactful rookie.

You know, it feels even weirder to call him a rookie because he was in the majors before 2020, and he was, it's 17 home runs last year between the regular season of playoffs, but of course only the regular season at bats count against that rookie eligibility. And he still qualifies. So, so yeah, one of those two.

If you're forcing me to pick a hitter, it's probably smarter to pick a hitter. then it would be Aeroserana, but Ian Anderson is the one I'd take first. Yeah, based on ADP, Randy of Roserena is the first rookie off the board. According to Fantasy Pro, 69.3 is the ADP going in the sixth round of Roserena, while Ian Anderson is, he's still going pretty high. 94.3 is the ADP for Ian Anderson, and I'm excited about him. I think that he proved a good amount last year.

He made 10 starts between the regular and the post. and again, this is Ian Anderson. He allowed nine earned runs during that span, a 159 ERA, 1-10 whip, 65 strikeouts, in 51 innings pitched, and that included two starts in the postseason against the Dodgers, one in the regular season against the Yankees. That was actually his debut.

Oh, no, he had four post-season starts. Oh, yeah, no, he had four post-season starts. Two of them were against the Dodgers, though, yeah. Right. The best two were against the Reds and Marlins. He shut them down. One of the two starts against the Dodgers. wasn't so hot, but, you know, it's the Dodgers. He was a rookie. Got to look at the body of work.

Yeah, and the body is there, you know, so he has three pitches, mid-90-mile-per-hour fastball, he has a curveball, he has a change-up. It seems like everything is there for Ian Anderson. I just don't really know what the workload is going to look like. The projection systems on fan graphs, there's five different projections. They have him between 121 and 145 innings. So if he's giving you that as the 31st starting pitcher off the board, going inside the top 100, you're probably going to be disappointed. So Scott, I'll just ask you this regarding Ian Anderson, what would you want him as in a redraft league?

Your SP4, your SP5, and how does he compare to veterans that maybe we feel better about what their ending projection is going to be? Maybe guys like a Patrick Corbyn or even a Charlie Morton, let's say. How does Ian Anderson compare to names like that? Well, I put Ian Anderson in my tears. I call him one of the fallback options. So I guess, you know, if you're looking for a two-word phrase,

what to describe him as, it would be that. He is the highest in that tier for me. And he's my 35th ranked pitcher. So you get to the 35th spot in my starting pitcher rankings, and I'm already referring to them as fallback options, which tells you a little bit about how that position breaks down. So, you know, for me personally, wanting to go into the season with the best pitching in the league,

ideally. I would want him as no more than my number five. I think if you get him as your number four, you know, 35th pitcher, so I'm ranking him as a number three, right, in the 12-team league, a low-end number three. So if you're, you know, if you're distributing starting pitchers evenly among the 12 teams, he's a number three. But personally, I want him as my number five. All right. So before we get to the rest of the all-ro rookie team, Ian Anderson is on that team. presenting the starting pitchers. I did want to hit some news and notes from the weekend. D.D. Gregorius returns to the Philadelphia Phillies on a two-year, $28 million deal.

Really good in 2020. D.D. Gregorius, 284 batting average, 10 homers, 40 RBI, three steals played in all 60 games. That is a 25 home run, 100 RBI, 7 steel pace over the course of 150 games. He finishes the number nine shortstop in both Roto and in head-to-to-head-to-head. fantasy points per game. Scott, we both have Didi Grigorous as the 14th shortstop in our roto ranks. I have him as shortstop 14 in head-tad points. You have him one spot lower in that format. I like Didi and I think you like him too. The problem is I just can't see moving him any higher in the rankings because just ahead of him you have names like Javier Baez and

Dansby Swanson. So I think Didi's just kind of cemented as that shortstop 14, 15. range. Yeah, no, it would have been more likely a case of moving Gregorius down if he signed somewhere in a bigger park, because I think his power potential is highly dependent on the venue he plays in. You know, he had those good years in Yankee

Stadium, obviously, a great park for left-handers to hit home runs. Philadelphia, small park, of course. If he had gone to the Reds, that would have been fine, too. And it makes me, you know, he leads the fallback options tier at shortstop.

He's the top of that tier at that position. And I feel more comfortable taking him now as my starter if I just get... You know, if I get... If I get left out at the other spots. So, yeah, happy he landed where he did. Can keep him where he is in the rankings. It can feel more comfortable about drafting him.

Again, that is D.D. Regorius, headed back to the Philadelphia. Philly's within 80P right now, I believe is hovering around 160. Yes, 160.3 just behind Tommy Edmund and just ahead of Haseung Kim. So pretty good value there on Didi. Gregorius. This came out on Sunday.

This was probably the biggest story of the weekend regarding the MLB, outside of Nolan Aronado, of course. Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports reported that the MLB offered a proposal to the Players Association that would delay the season by one month. Details include Opening day would move from April 1st

to April 28th. Spring training games would start March 28th rather than February 22nd. 154 games instead of 162. Yet the season is only extended by one week. So we probably would see some planned double headers.

Universal DH was included in the proposal as was the expanded postseason and since then it came out also on Sunday. Bob Nightingale reported the players are expected to reject this offer. But more chatter about this delay, Scott. So just kind of keep that in the back of your mind.

Everyone was listening, watching. I think that they've mentioned this enough where it's a very real possibility that we're starting towards the end of April for the regular season rather than the end of March, beginning of April. So just thought we'd hit on that. Although it's important to keep in mind

that if there's no agreement, we know what the schedule is. Spring training, players report mid-February, spring training game starts late, February, opening day is April 1st. This is not something the league can decide unilaterally. The two sides would need to agree to any change to that.

So, you know, I think it's still likely that's what we end up with. But there are incentives maybe to push it back, clearly the owners think so. So we'll wait and see. just from our perspective, it's frustrating because, like, not as many people played fantasy baseball last year because there was such, there was, you know, it threw off everybody's routine, you know?

And just delaying things a month, I fear it would be the same thing where everybody just kind of like, ah, whatever, I'll pick it up again in 2022, which of course means maybe they'd never pick it up again at all. So I'm ready to start again on schedule. obviously we want everybody to be safe. I'm not sure that's really what's driving the thinking behind possibly pushing it back. I think it's more about wanting to get fans in the stands

for a higher percentage of the games, which I don't know that anybody can predict that with great accuracy anyway when that's going to happen. So I'm hope, I'll just go ahead and say I'm hoping they start on schedule as planned. But we'll see. We'll see. Obviously, there is, there is, that may not happen.

Look, and we want baseball back as bad as everybody else, right? Obviously, we wanted to be done safely. We're rooting for baseball to start on time with the actual projected schedule that they have as of now. But, yeah, no, that's a good point that you bring up, though, because is it really going to make things safer if they start April 28th rather than April 1st? I mean, that would mean the hope is that all the players and coaches would get vaccinated by then, and that just doesn't seem realistic. So the whole point of them pushing it back really is to just try and get fans in the stands,

which is that really the safest possible thing either? Probably not, but a discussion for another day. It doesn't really matter for fantasy purposes. Our guy, Masahiro Tanaka, maybe not our guy, my guy, Yankee fan, wearing the hat here. He signed a two-year deal to return to Japan with the Rakuten Golden Eagles. mentioned he has unfinished business in the MLB, so that's interesting. I guess there's a chance that we see him return at some point, but he is, I believe, 34 years old.

He'll be 36 by the time this two-year deal ends in Japan. So again, if you have Masayor-Tanaka on a keeper dynasty league, he will not be pitching this year and will not be pitching next year either. Some smaller news items from the weekend, Carlos Rodon, back to the White Sox on a one-year $3 million deal. He will compete with Ronaldo Lopez for the fifth starter job. I guess Michael Copac probably works his way into that mix somewhere as well, but my guess is Copac probably starts in the bullpen. I don't have anything to back that up. That's just a hunch that I'm getting right now regarding Michael Copac. The Reds are still hoping to acquire Ahmed Rosario to fill their shortstop vacancy. We spoke about Andres Jimenez last week and how signing Caesar Hernandez was bad for both Andres Jimenez and Caesar Hernandez. So if they can make a trade here, then Everyone's happy, and we have everyday playing time for both Jimenez and Ahmed Rosario.

So definitely something that I am rooting for. The Cubs signed Trevor Williams to a one-year deal. The twins have made an offer to Nelson Cruz, though the Dodgers, and your brave, Scotty, remain interested in Nelson Cruz. Was that my preseason prediction for Cruz? Not preseason prediction, but back early in the offseason, we were predicting where all these free agents would land. I kind of feel like I said Cruz to the Braves. might be able to pull that up for you. Obviously, that would probably depend

on a new agreement between the players and the owners. I mean, it would depend on that. So, you know, I guess some conflicting interests there for me. You know, we have not been paying attention to that free agency invitational that we did. Yeah. Trevor Bauer hasn't signed yet. I'm looking at it now, the results that we had. We did this way back on

November 10th. So this was a while ago. J.T. Real Mutzo, we both predicted to the Mets. That did not happen. George Springer to, I said the Phillies, you said the Rockies, did not happen. I said the Yankees for DJ LaMahue. Yeah, yay me. Scott said the Angels. Marcel Lozuna still has not signed. Francisco Lindor, I said to the Mets. Scott said to the Phillies. We both said Aronado to the Cardinals. That's fun. You Darvish. You Darvish. I said to the twins, you said to the Reds. Ah.

What was I thinking? Interesting. All right, we both got Stroman wrong. Both got Hendricks wrong. All right, I'm going to look over this and I'm going to conjure up the results and see how well or how poorly we're doing on that. Where was I here? All right, Nelson Cruz. Right.

So he's weighing his offers. He hasn't accepted anything because he's waiting to see if there will be a universal DH, which would drive up his price, obviously with National. National League teams able to bid on him as well. The Ray's Mets, Twins, and White Sox are all interested in Mike Fultenevich, who had a showcase late last week where he was sitting 90 to 92 miles per hour with his fastball. He averaged 96 miles per hour back in 2018, which was his best season. So there's a chance we could see the fastball velocity tick up, you know, as he works his way

back in if he signs with a team, but will he ever be the Fulte of old? I am pessimistic, to say the least. Before we get into the all-rokey team, just want to remind everyone that if you're a big football fan, you know that the biggest sporting fan, the biggest sporting spectacle of the year is nearly upon us. We know everyone loves making their picks, no matter if you're a diehard fan or just tuning in for the big game.

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which means we are upping our content volume. You'll now hear Fantasy Baseball today, Monday through Friday, five times per week with Scott, Chris, most weeks. Scott's, Chris is out this week because he's been working his tail off since the start of the football season, well-deserved with Scott, Chris, and myself,

Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. On Wednesdays, you will continue to hear our buddies, Danny. Vietti and Will Middlebrooks, who talk more about things from a general baseball perspective, and they also have fantastic guests on as well. This week mentioned no Chris. We have Ariel Cohen from does the ATC projections that you can find on fan graphs. They're also on sports line, and he just does great work in the industry.

I think he took home the Tout Wars head-to-head points salary cap draft last year. We competed in that together. So we will have Ariel on tomorrow's podcast to talk about his projections and a little bit of salary cap draft strategy. And then later in the week, we have Vlad Sedler from Elite Fantasy and Fantasy Guru joining us on Friday.

Last but not least, our rankings, which we continuously talk about here, are live on the site. Roto, head-to head points, A-O-only, N-O-only, mixed leagues, whatever you're playing, we have our rankings and our salary cap auction.

available on the site. Scott, someone emailed in and asked which rankings they should use if they play in a head-to-head categories league. Now, I think it depends what your categories are. If they include OBP or any type of total bases, I would say probably follow our head-to-head points rankings. If they are strict five-by-five head-to-head categories

with steals and batting average, I would say follow our roto rankings. Does that make sense? For the most part, I mean, it's not a perfect correlation because roto rankings are established for a certain lineup, a five outfield or lineup, middle infields, but corner infield spot, of course, points, head head points rankings are going to elevate pitchers beyond what a head category's league would use. I mean, you shouldn't be following any rankings to the letter anyway, I would say. So you gotta know your own format. If you're gonna play in one of the ones that aren't as standard on CBS,

then, you know, got to make those mental adjustments. Our email of the day, this one's from Matt and NorCal. Dear Bueuner, Jr. and Suzuki. Sounds like Mariners' greats in the outfield. That is correct. Jay Buneer, King Griffey Jr., and Ichero, Suzuki,

looking for prospect draft advice. dynasty startup, 16 team head-to-head categories. I assume Wander will go first. I'm praying he doesn't. That was all caps, a bunch of exclamation points. Who would you draft at number two? Jared Kalenik, Julio Rodriguez, Joe Adele, Mackenzie Gore, or someone else. I thought this was a nice little precursor into our all-rookie team, Scott.

So who would you take second overall? One of those names or potentially someone else? Probably Kalenik. Or sorry, Kalnick. Jared Kelnick. It looks like Kalenik. You want to say Kalenik. It's not phonetical.

All right. It's Kelnick. Jared Kelnick of the Mariners. Five category potential there. I do have McKinsey Gore second in my prospect rankings. I don't think there's anything wrong with taking him if you want to go the pitcher route. But head-to-head categories league is less the format I'd do that in. And as much as I like pitching, I like proven pitching.

most of all. I do think McKenzie Gore is far and away, the best pitching prospect. I think he's, the failure potential is pretty low considering. But probably Kellnick in this situation. Yeah, I think that makes sense as well. Some people would say Julio Rodriguez. Second overall, I know the Welsh is very big on Julio Rodriguez. And I believe he has him second overall. When you guys did your prospect podcast together, the first week of January while I was away, Yeah, but I would go with Kelnick as well. The all-rooky team, you could find this on the website, CBSports.com slash fantasy slash baseball.

Scott put together some of his picks for the all-rooky team in 2021. And we'll start with the pitchers. We mentioned Ian Anderson. We spoke about Sixtho Sanchez last week as well in our sleepers, breakouts, and bus 1.0 podcast, which leaves Kristen McKenzie, Michael Kopeck, and Davey Garcia as the. other pitchers you have on the all-rooky team for this upcoming season, Scott. How are you feeling about Tristan McKenzie? Because he is someone that I'm seeing drop in

ADP, dropping some drafts that I'm doing right now. And I think people overall are a little bit worried about what the workload could look like for him. He's dealt with some, with quite a few injuries in the past. He has a slight frame. But Scott, when Tristan McKenzie pitched last year, he was really damn good. Yeah, he was. His number. actually compare, well, at least in terms of like strikeouts, they compare to Ian Anderson.

The ERA was a little higher. I mean, Ian Anderson was 195, so I can't really compare there. But 324 for McKenzie. McKenzie actually had a lower whip.9 whip. Durability has been the biggest question with him. It was the question for him in the minors. You know, he's such a slight build for being 6'5,

and he missed all the 2019 season. So I think it makes sense to think that Cleveland's going to take extra care in preserving him. And I think he's already being discounted in drafts because of that. I don't think it needs to be discounted anymore. I think inning for inning, he's going to be as trustworthy, if not more so than anyone else, you could draft in the range where he's going. And certainly for an exercise like this, the all-rooky team, just to kind of explain the concept. I mean, it's kind of self-explanatory, but it's not.

not necessarily the best prospect that will play some in 2021 at each position. And it's not necessarily the prospects that'll play the most at each position in 2021. You're kind of marrying the two, right? The single prospect at each position who I expect to make the biggest fantasy impact, both because of how good he is and how long he's going to be up. And this is for redraft, too, just so people don't get confused and think, like, is keeper or dynasty rankings. These are players who, again,

will make an impact this season and will be really good when they're on the field, whether on the mound or at the dish, whatever it might be. Tristan McKenzie, the ADP right now. He is the 51st starting pitcher off the board at pick 166.3. I've heard some people talk about him

potentially starting in the minors. I just don't know if they have that luxury. They have Bieber, Pleseck, and Savale as their top three starting pitchers. And then you get into, there's McKenzie, there's Logan Allen, there's Calquantral. Is McKenzie going to make 30 plus starts? Probably not. But I think he will at least be in the rotation on opening day.

So once we get into that, you know, your bench starting pitchers, you're looking for guys that could just make an impact when they're on the mound. I think Tristan McKenzie is someone that you should be targeting. Scott, I mentioned Michael Kopeck. I expect him to start the year in the bullpen. I don't want to speak for both of us. What is your expectation for COPEC's usage, at least early on in the season for the White Sox? Well, at the time I put this together, I was expecting him to have a rotation spot.

I mean, to obviously have to earn it in spring training, but thinking that's what would happen. That was before they got Carlos Rodon, who wasn't any good last year, his first year coming back from Tommy John surgery. And I kind of think he's washed. So it's probably a matter of time. I don't know if that means Kopeck in the bullpen. I don't know if that means Kopeck in the minor. I don't even know

to what extent the miners will exist this year. But it's, I do think it's still possible Copac could just beat him out in spring training. I'm not ruling that out because of the Rudan signing, citing,

just to be clear. But it is a bigger question mark at this point. I love Copac. I think he's a post-type sleeper. You know, he hasn't pitched since 2018. So everybody's kind of over waiting for

Michael Kopeck, but like, his last stretch of the minors leading up to his promotion was dominant. Every appearance he made in the majors, other than the one where they found out he needed Tommy John's surgery afterward. They were all great. He is overpowering, and he's really gotten the stuff under control after some walk issues in the minors. So, you know, no telling how much that's changed after all he's been through the past two years, but he certainly had the stuff still for that one appearance he made in spring training.

last year. And yeah, I mean, you mentioned the stuff. He throws mid-90s with the fastball. Last time we saw him in 2018 made four starts with the White Sox. An average 95.4 miles per hour on the fastball. Again, this is Michael Kopeck. He threw a curveball around 11% of the time, slider 17%, change up 10%. So he's got a four-pitch arsenal throws pretty damn hard. the ADP right now for COPEC is 257.3. He might be someone in a redraft league that you want to hold on too early just as we kind of figure out what his role is, but come first month of the season, as we get further in,

if he does earn a rotation spot, is someone that just does have pretty, pretty good upside. Again, that is Michael Kopeck. Let's move over to who you have in the outfield and designated hitter here, Scott. Randy Arosa Rana, Dylan Carlson, Alex Kirolov and Ryan Mountcastle. I want to focus on Dylan Carlson here,

who I was very excited about last year. I think most people were excited about him and continue to rise up draft boards all throughout spring training, summer camp training. Once we realized it looked like he was going to have a near everyday role for the St. Louis Cardinals. His first 23 games for Carlson.

Pretty bad. Pretty bad. 162 batting average, 29% strikeout rate one homer and three doubles. He got sent back to the alternate site and then came back. His final 12 games, 278 batting average, still a 30% strikeout rate,

though his swinging strike rate went down about 3% during that time. Two homers, four doubles, played three postseason games against the Padres batted cleanup in each of them went three for nine with a double, a steel, four walks, and three strikeouts. Scott, you have Carlson as your outfielder 45,

I have him as my outfielder 34 in Rodo. So a little bit of a disparity here. I think I'm just kind of chasing the upside, and that might be the difference between us too. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think probably you're closer to the consensus. It's been apparent from mock draft so far

that I'm kind of the low guy on Carlson. And it's because that range of outfielder's, I don't think there's a need to chase upside. There's enough upside from more proven players in the 30 to 40 range in the outfield. but you know it could work out great i mean carlson i think i think the comparison that the comp i've settled on for carlson you know presuming he beats his upside here in his first full season is kind of a speedier michael conforto which would be a great fantasy player probably a top 20 fantasy

player or fantasy outfielder um so yeah i can i can understand the i can understand the enthusiasm for Carlson. I just don't think it's necessary. It's a point in the draft where you don't really need to sell out for upside just yet. And specifically with Carlson and the Cardinals lineup, something that I will be paying close attention to throughout spring training is what do they do in terms of just the lineup in general? Where are they positioning guys? What does the order look like if they acquire Nolan Aronado? As of now, Rostle Resource has Dylan Carlson batting clean up for the Cardinals, but I've seen some people,

I read an article from the Athletic over the weekend that had him potentially leading off for the Cardinals. So either way, you know, if he's leading off or batting fifth right behind Goldschmidt and Aeronado, he either going to be scoring a lot of runs or there's going to be a lot of RBI opportunities. So batting average might be a bit of a question mark.

I think Ken Fordo has a better hit tool in general, Scott, but it's not a bad comp. Good eye at the plate, walks a decent bit. I just expect a few more strike bits. I remember prior to last year, Michael Conforto's career batting average was 253.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm taking 270, 280 range for Carlson if, you know, in a good scenario. Yeah, I mean, if he gets that with 20 plus homers, potentially double-digit steals, man, there's a lot to like about Dylan Carlson, someone that I am pretty excited about. Scott, your thoughts on Alex Kiroloff,

who is one of the top prospects for the Minnesota Twins, I believe most prospect places have him as number two, right behind Royce Lewis. But we saw him make his debut, oddly enough, in the postseason last year. And he went one for four. He only played one game with a single. But good hit tool, could hit for batting average. That's what he did in the minors. I think there's big power there as well.

And it seems like Kiroloff is going to play every day. So someone going right around that 300 range in ADP. Your thoughts on Kierloff? I'm a Kiroloff, truther. I'm not alone. I love his ADP. I'm sometimes beaten to drafting him because there are other Kirillov Truthers out there and I'm trying to maximize the discount for him.

But I think he's going to catch a lot of people by surprise this year. And the non-truthers are going to be, are going to be made to believe by his performance because he just seems like an exceptional hitter. 2019, you look at those most recent minor league stats, and they're underwhelming, and that's why I think people don't recognize how good he is,

but you look at the year before in 2018, and you consider he was dealing with a wrist injury all of 2019, and then you hear the reports that were coming out of the alternate training site last year for Kirillov and how he was raking there. You see Baseball America, their latest rankings and ratings for players this year. They give Kiroloff a 70 hit tool and a power tool. So, like, I mean, 60 is great by itself. So the fact that they're giving him that for power,

and then they're giving him a 70, which is just amazing. You don't see many players get a 70 grade, and many prospects get a 70 grade for anything. That shows you how high baseball America is on Kirillov. And, yeah, I'm buying it. I love it. Yep. And ADP right now has Kirillov as the 86th outfielder off the board.

and I have him outfielder of 55. You have him outfielder of 54, Scott. So we are simpatico. We are buying in on Kirloff, who even if they signed Nelson Cruz, I still think would have the opportunity to at least play every day against right-handed pitching

from the get-go again. That is Alex Kiroloff. Let's run through the rest of these positions on your all-ro rookie team. Again, you can find these results, this team at CBSports.com. A catcher, you have Alejandro Kirk, who is a,

a burly little fella, but with a big hit tool, career 315 hitter in the minors with a 918 OPS, never had a strikeout rate higher than 11%. And he had a walk rate over 13% at every level. So the guy checks out in terms of plate discipline, putting the ball in play. The question, Scott, the biggest question for him is what will the playing time look like

because it seems like he's going to split time with Danny Jansen at least to start. And there are no more DH at bats around, you know, for either one of these guys. So what do you think the playing time looks like for Alejandro Kirk to start? Yeah, I mean, it remains to be seen if everybody's going to stay healthy, if everybody's going to perform up to expectations. Your boy, Rowdy Tellez, is he the real deal? Because that will affect Kirk's playing time too. I think Kirk, the consensus is Kirk's bat, Alejandro Kirk's bat, is very safe.

He's going to produce with the bat. Is he going to hold up defensively behind the plate? Arbades to be seen. I've seen Pablo Sandoval Kamps used for him before, which would suggest no. I mean, part of that is the rotundness that he and that Kirk and Sandoval share as well. But it also refers to the hit tool, and especially early in his career, remember, Sandoval was a great source of batting average with enough power for it to play up. So, you know, as long as Kirk's retaining that catcher eligibility and starting half the time,

no guarantee he will this year, but there's a pretty good chance. I think he's going to be a fantasy asset. And I think people are just going to fall in love with him. He's going to be what the profile isn't exactly the same offensively, but he's going to be what people wanted Williams Ostudio to be, this just kind of round guy who's fun to root for and makes a ton of contact, and they're going to love him. No body shaming here on fantasy baseball today.

The ADP for Alejandro Kirk is 305 as the 20th catcher off the board. Both Scott and I have Kirk as our 20th ranked catcher in Roto, which is where you would want to target him as your second catcher in a points league. You don't want him as your number one cashier unless he does earn everyday playing time. Then the profile definitely fits for Alejandro Kirk. At first base, Scott, you have Bobby Dalbeck of the Boston Red Sox, who in 2020 made his debut, hit 263 with eight home runs, and a 959 OPS, only played 23 games, really good eye at the plate, nearly 11% walk rate during that span, but also a 42% strikeout rate.

Dahlbeck kind of seems like your prototypical slugger, Scott, where he's going to have a low batting average, he's going to strike out, but he also has a really big pop. I noticed that you have him ranked over names like Routi Thales and Nate Lowe, guys who I like quite a bit, so I did just want to ask you about your ranking of Bobby Dahlbeck. Yeah, a lot of that's playing time.

I have concerns for Lowe and definitely for Teles. If I didn't, then I'd probably rank that behind Dahlbeck. But, you know, Dahlbach hit eight home runs in 92 played a play to appearances last year so we know the power is going to play. One thing that gets overlooked with him is he actually cut his strikeout rate to 25%, 25.1% is last year in the miners, which is not a bad strikeout rate by today's standards at all. It's not a good strike rate, but it's not bad. And it wasn't reflected in the batting average.

He still hit 234, so that was kind of weird. He didn't hit as many home runs as we're used to seeing him hit. So just a weird stat line for Dahlbeck in the miners in 2019. I'm not exactly sure what to make of it. But my assumption is he's going to be a three true outcomes player, and he's going to play virtually every day for the Red Sox, which was the biggest reason why he represents first base here on this team. Other than its starting pitcher, which you'll notice,

and they're in the column. I have tons of honorable mentions in the column, but you'll notice out out of the five starting pitchers I left out guys like Nate Pearson, Tarek Scouble, Spencer Howard, a lot of pitchers who we expect to make a big contribution this year, they had to be left out. So other than the tough calls, I had to make it starting pitcher,

this was the toughest call for this all-rookie team, choosing Bobby Dalbeck over Andrew Vaughn. And, you know, it really comes down to how soon you expect Andrew Vaughn to be up. If you expect them to be up in May or the second month of the season, whatever month that ends up being, then probably Vaughn would be the representative at first base here for the all-rooky team. But I'm not counting on that. I have Dalbeck ranked higher than Vaughn in my redraft rankings.

So I kind of just stuck with that. But Vaughn certainly has more upside. Yeah, Vaughn has only played 55 games in the minors, and he has not played above high A ball. So as much as we like Vaughn, and I think we're going to see him at some point in 2021, they probably want to see how he fares at AA, maybe even get him some AAA at Bats. Again, Vaughn, the former first round pick in 2019 by the White Sox.

He is 22 years old, will turn 23 on April 3rd. At second base, speaking of the White Sox, you have Nick Madrigal, who separated his left shoulder. Had surgery in October and was expected to miss five to six months. So that puts him right on track for March, April. the ADP right outside the top 200 as the 23rd second baseman off the board. Scott, I know we've done a lot of mock drafts together, and I feel like Nick Madrigal is usually a target for you as a middle infielder, specifically in roto drafts, because he should give you at least 15, maybe even 20 plus deals.

Yeah, and sometimes I've just drafted him straight up at second base because it's easier to get two short stops than a second baseman and a shortstop, you know? So, yeah, I like, I don't know exactly how they, the shoulder's going to affect them. I'd worry more if Madrigal was a power hitter, and maybe that's an oversimplification, because, you know, obviously he still needs strength to hit line drives. But I just don't worry about it that much with him.

And, like, he is such an easy bet for batting average because he never strikes out. He struck out seven times and 103 at bats last year in the majors, and the strikeout rates even lower in the minors. So he's going to hit for average. I'm hopeful he runs. he runs. He had a 35 steel season most recently in the minor, so he's capable of doing it. We didn't see much of it from him in the majors. But because he's not a power hitter, I think there's a good chance he does run. And if you can get batting average and steals at a weak position late in a rotel league, sounds like a good deal to me. Yeah, I don't mind the ADP right now. Pretty solid value for Madrigal. I just want to see him healthy in the spring training. But I guess if we seem healthy, that's going to drive the price up. So the time to get him is now.

I'm also hoping that under Tony Larusa, the new manager for the White Sox, that they just run more in general as a team. Under Rick Renteria, they really did not run all that much. And we were saying for years, please let Yoan Moncada, let Tim Anderson, let them run more because those guys had some really big seal seasons in the minors. So under Tony Larusa, I looked this up. His Cardinals days, he didn't really have personnel that ran all that much. Poo Holst would steal like 15 bases a year, which is still kind of weird to me even now. But Tony LaRoucissa was also the manager of the Oakland A's back in the 90s when Ricky Henderson was on the team. So it helps having Ricky Henderson, but crossing my fingers, hoping there for the White Sox.

We'll end here, the all-rookie team, third base and shortstop, potentially the two biggest names on the list, right? Cabrion Hayes, who you have professed your love for Scott. You are a big fan of Cabrion Hayes. but since we last talked about him, the lineup has gotten worse. And typically, you know, for guys like Jose Ramirez, Trevor's story, maybe it doesn't matter as much. But for a young player like Hayes, I do worry a little bit more about the lineup context being worse for him now in Pittsburgh. And, you know, it seems like they're going to continue to ship out players. So give me your thoughts on the lineup context for Hayes.

And then at shortstop, you have Wander Franco, who is the number one prospect in baseball. do you think we'll see him at some point this season? I think we'll see Wander Franco sooner than later. There were some more immediate examples I could have put on this team instead of him. Like, you know, maybe if the Reds don't get a shortstop, you could, blanking on the name, Jose Garcia, right? Yep. You could go with him as the representative at shortstop on the all-rooky team.

But I don't see enough offensive potential there to pass up a couple. who clearly has a ton of it. And I expected to be sooner than later. Maybe the second month of the season. Wander Frankel will be up playing every day for the race. Brian Hayes. So I want to ask you, because it's frequently a talking point in the preseason.

You know, does this guy have enough help in his lineup? But can you honestly remember a guy who was ruined by the lack of support, a loss of support around him? It ruined his fantasy value. because I can't think of that guy. Yeah, it's on the spot. I'll think about it the next couple of days

and see if I could come up with someone. But you're right, look, if a player is good enough, it's probably not going to matter. And if Cabrian Hayes comes anywhere close to what he showed us last year, then again, it probably won't matter. One of the most recent examples of a player on a really, really bad team

where he just overcame everything was Trey Mancini in 2019. I mean, look at that Orioles team. was bad. It was a very bad team. And he was still really good for fantasy. So I guess if that player is that good, then it doesn't matter. The one thing I would say, the difference is that Mancini was an established, you know, veteran-ish type player. And Cabrion Hayes is, it's really still his first season, right? So I just wonder if it will have more of effect on him just because he's younger versus some of the veterans. You know, Scott? Yeah. No, that's a good point. I like that he makes so much contact and that was consistent even during his minor league seasons when he wasn't so productive

all the way around. I do want to point this out for a Brian Hayes because MLB.com recently came out with their top 100 for the new season, MLB prospect pipeline, and they have new ratings for all the players in the top 100 that they released. Now, baseball America, you know, still seemed kind of they gave Cabrion Hayes the middling offensive grades that they always gave him, but MLBDA comes with me.

They shot him way up. They give him a 60 hit tool now and a 55 power tool, which is star level for both of those areas for Cabrion Hayes. They have him as their ninth prospect, number nine prospect,

heading into 2021. So they are convinced, just like I am, that what we saw in the majors down the stretch where he just crushed the ball to all fields, more over the fence power than we ever saw from him in the miners

is that it's a legit transformation from a guy who had it coming and they're projecting him to be a star. So, Brian Hayes, don't sleep on him. Scott, I will just read this lineup and we'll end it here. Adam Frazier, Cabrian Hayes, Colin Moran, Brian Reynolds, Gregory Polanco, Anthony Alford, Jacob Stallings, Eric Gonzalez. It's not looking great in Pittsburgh.

We will wrap there. What we're going to do now is, we're not wrapping up the show. We're just wrapping up this segment. But we're going to take a quick break if you're listening on the podcast side. If you're watching on the video side, just stay right here because we're not going to go anywhere,

but on the podcast side, we'll be back right after this. All right, so first year player draft rankings. I did just want to touch on these. Scott, you have coming out. By the time people are listening to this, likely on Monday, they'll already be out. first year player draft rankings for those playing in dynasty leagues.

You have your top 30 rankings on the site. Before we actually talk about the players themselves, I just wanted to ask your general approach to the first year player draft in this style of format. Do you draft for need? Do you go best player available? Highest upside? Do you look more at proximity?

I know that that's something that you consider for your prospects. So all encompassing, what is your approach in a first-year player draft? Yeah, I like them to be closer than not. I like to know if they're going to sink or swim sooner so I can move on to something else if I'm wasting my time with them. I don't like waiting years for a guy who ultimately doesn't pan out. So, you know, first-year player rankings of first-year player drafted in a Dynasty League. It's mostly going to be comprised of the most recent draft class. So, you know, Spencer Torkelson obviously is going to lead off the list.

and the most recent international signing class, which just happened a couple weeks ago, actually. So these guys were just introduced to the player pool. But those are a lot of like 17-year-olds that, you know, who knows. Who knows what's going to become of them. So really only the best of the best make it on this list here, this top 30 of mine. It's mostly draft picks from back in, when was the draft?

Was it June or was it May? I can't remember exactly when it was. It was during the lockdown. Oh, there's baseball because there was a draft. It was the most interest maybe I ever had in the MLB draft. So, you know, Spencer Torkelson number one, obviously, and we'll see who else makes the list here. Yeah, I think it was late in May when the MLB draft took place in 2020.

But let's focus on specifically the top 10 here. We'll hit on each of these players. Talk a little bit about the international signings. As well, you mentioned the name, Spencer Torkelson, corner infielder remains to be seen whether he's going to play first or third base for the Detroit Tigers. He was the number one overall pick in the 2020 MLB draft. Lots of like here. Projects as a potentially 280 plus hitter, 30 to 35 home runs long term. So Torkelson is just really the best bet available. Number two, I think it might change

for some people, but Austin Martin, who slept a little bit in the draft. Most people considered him, you know, almost on par with Spencer Torkelson and was expected to go number two, really not fall past number three in the draft. And he lasted all the way to the number five pick for the Toronto Blue Jays. Austin Martin could play shortstop, could play a little bit of third base, a plus hit tool with a power slash speed combination. Scott, at any point, if you just want to like jump in here and interrupt and talk about any of these players, feel free to do so. Austin Martin. Anything there? So Austin Martin, I think it's an Anthony Rendon, like hitting profile.

He's going to get on base a ton. He's going to, it's a great hit tool. How much power is he going to provide? There will be some. Is he going to, is it going to make him a power hitter, quote unquote? That's unclear. But, you know, I expect Austin Martin to have some 20 homer seasons in the majors, at least, if he doesn't become a 30 homer guy.

And more likely, center field or third base, he's listed as a short. shortstop right now. But the batch should translate anywhere. And he's 22. So he's somebody who we should be seen in the majors before too long. Number three, this might be a little bit of a surprise for some, but Nick Gonzalez, the second baseman for the Pittsburgh Pirates, the number seven pick in the 2020 draft. A 21-year-old four-year player out of New Mexico State has a plus hit tool, potential 300 batting average, 20 homer upside, maybe, you know, five, to 10 steals. I'm kind of looking at a

Jeff McNeil type player, Scott. Yeah, maybe. I've seen Dustin Padroia comps for Nick Gonzalez as well. That's going a little further back, obviously. Similar to Austin Martin, except less hope for him developing into a quote-unquote power hitter.

There's not zero power there. It's not Nick Madrigal in that way. But Nick Gonzalez, similar to Martin, but a lower ceiling. Yeah, let's get him to the major sooner, than later, get some help on the way for a guy, Cabrion Hayes. The next three in your first year player draft rankings are all starting pitchers.

And I've seen the order of these three kind of change. I think it's subjective based on what you're looking for. But it's really these three that are at the top in terms of pitchers for these rankings. And you have an order, 456, Aisa Lacey, the starting pitcher who went to the Kansas City Royals, a 21-year-old Southpaw. you have Emerson Hancock 5th, who is a starting pitcher for the Mariners, 21-year-old out of the University of Georgia, and then Max Meyer, a starting pitcher for the Marlins,

who will turn 22 in March out of the University of Minnesota. Lacey, Hancock, Meyer. Why do you have Lacey at the top, Scott? Just seems like the best combination of upside and him already being so far along, having four well-developed pitches, good control. As quickly as the Royals moved Brady Singer and Chris Bubich up the latter, I mean, Lacey, I'd be surprised if we saw him this year,

but it's not unthinkable, especially if the Royals find themselves surprisingly in contention. So Aisa Lacey is as much as a pitching prospect can be. He feels pretty close to Can't Miss. Hancock and Meyer, I could go either way with that. Hancock kind of disappointed his last year in college. There was a time when he looked like he'd be the top pick in the draft. So some people are kind of down on Emerson Hancock, the Mariners pick.

But he's more developed than Max Meyer of the Marlins, who great fastball, great slider, needs to develop a change up if he's going to make it as a starter. If not, he probably has a future as a closer type. And Meyer, the last one of that group, I think people are a little worried about his upside scot because he's only six foot. So the other two...

I think he's probably going to make it as a starter. Okay. He throws extremely hard too. I saw he has like a 70 grade fastball and 70 grade slider. So he just kind of has to figure out the rest. Comes close to 95. The fastball comes close to 100. He's going to miss a lot of bats with that pairing itself.

But he probably needs that true off speed pitch, that change up to make it as a starter. There's enough hope that he'll develop it that I think he will. And the size thing, I think, gets overplayed a lot of the time. 7 through 10 on Scott's first year player draft rankings. We have Haseung Kim, who was originally a shortstop in the KBO, but now he's probably going to play some combination of second base outfields.

I think they're going to move him and Kronenworth around Haseung Kim, 25 years old, coming off a career year in the KBO, 306 batting average, 30 homers, 23 steals, the top international. national player, good plate discipline, more of a win now piece in Dynasty Leagues. 8, 9 and 10, you have Zach Veen, the outfielder for the Colorado Rockies. Garrett Mitchell, the outfielder for the Brewers, and Heston Kirstad, who, if you're wondering how that's spelled, it's K-J-E-R-S-T-A-D, Heston Kirstead, Outfielder for the Baltimore Orioles. who was actually the second pick in the draft,

but it was kind of a surprise a way to save money to get a better pick later for the Orioles. A lot of power there for Kyrostad, but it's not clear if he's going to be just a one-note hitter with the big power and that's it, or if they can shore up his mechanics enough to make him good all-around hitters.

So that's why he comes in 10th here. Zach Veen is really the upside play among hitters coming out of high school, so it's going to be a weight for him, but Colorado, obviously a good place for a hitter to land. I've seen comparisons

like Cody Bellinger for him in terms of the power potential. I've seen Kyle Tucker as well. So Zach Veen is really trendy in fantasy circles, especially. People really seem to like his potential, but it is a longer wait, so that's something to keep in mind.

I generally don't like that. It also comes with more risk. I do want to talk about Hassan Kim, little bit, even though he's kind of different since he has professional experience from Korea. By putting him here in the first year player rankings, it kind of means I need to move

him down my top 100 prospects where he's currently about 25th, I think. But when we did our prospects only drafts last week, I found myself passing up Kim, not really wanting to invest in him in a dynasty context. Because even though I

like the idea of finding out sooner if a guy's going to sink or swim, it's like, Like a little too soon. You know, a month into the season, he may have lost all his value because it's just like there's no power, potentially. There's not enough power.

He's not playing that much because the Padres are overloaded. So I'm a little worried about Kim really having enough of an impact to pass up these very exciting prospects that are also included on this list. So, yeah, that's what.

why he's seventh, and I'm probably going to downgrade him to more like a 50 range in my top 100 prospects. No, it's a great point on Kim, and I will just point out that for Dynasty, I think for like a first year player draft, you have to be realistic with yourself and your timeline and your team in general, right? Like, take a good, hard look at your team. If you know that you're not going to compete for the next couple of years or so, then, you know, maybe it makes more sense to take a long play, like a Zach Veen, who's 19 years old, and it might take him two or three years to come up. But when he comes up, you mentioned some of the comps for him,

Cody Bellinger and other big names like that. I think that was MLB to those were MLB.coms, by the way. I think it's where I saw Bellinger and Tucker cited as comparisons for Zach Veen, just to give credit where credits do. So just be realistic with yourself when doing these first-year player drafts. Some other top international players behind Kim includes a tier of three short stops.

Of course there's other international players, but these are the ones that I've seen on most lists being ranked the highest. It's Christian Hernandez, who is a 16-year-old shortstop from the Dominican Republic. He signed with the Cubs. Wilman Diaz, a 16-year-old

from Venezuela who signed with the Dodgers. And Carlos Colmanades, who is a 17-year-old who signed with the Tampa Bay raise. I don't know if you have anything to add on those specific players, Scott, but what would be your approach to drafting one of them? Like, when would you actually do it? Well, apparently, in a first-year player draft, I would draft Hernandez 12th, Wilman Diaz 13th, and those I think are the big two. I do have Carlos Colemanaires here in the top 30 also, but I have him down at 25th behind

guys like Aaron Sabato and Nick York, McGable, Reed Detmer's. You may remember those names from the drafts. So he's behind those. But Christian Hernandez, Wilma Diaz, 12th, and 13th. And it's because it seems like they're already at a point with their hitting that I don't think

they're just going to get swallowed up by the miners and lose all their value in next year. You're looking for somebody else to fill those minor league spots. Christian Hernandez is my favorite of him. He gets the Alex Rodriguez, Mani Machado comp that gets thrown around a lot. But obviously speaks to the upside.

It's, you know, it has to do with how he's built, what his instincts already are, what you can project for his power because of his build. And he's pretty exciting there for the Cubs, Christian Hernandez. Wilman Diaz, I think, is even like, shows even more hitting potential presently, and you don't even have to project as much for him.

As young as he is, I mean, you're doing quite a bit of projection still, but seems like he has a very strong offensive profile as well. So those two, if you're willing to wait longer, the upside seems enticing, and they seem like they have the best chance of, you know, I think of how in my dynasty leagues I look on with envy at the guy who was willing to invest in, Wander Franco. And it's easy to

want to chase that with these 17-year-olds even though they're riskier and you're going to miss more often than not. But I think those two Christian Hernandez, Wilman Diaz, have the best chance of becoming that if you want to take a bigger swing.

Some others that just missed outside your top 10 relief pitcher slash maybe starting pitcher Garrett Crochet. The 11th overall pick made his debut for the White Sox last season. Pitched six shutout innings with a 16% swinging strike rate, a 100 mile per hour fastball.

The guy just throws absolute heat. But of course, wound up training his forearm in the postseason. So we have that to worry about for Garrett Crochet. Austin Wells is the name I've seen, ranks inside the top 15, top 20 for a lot of people. He was drafted 28th overall by the Yankees. Pretty good hit tool. Obviously, a lefty in Yankee Stadium.

If you ever makes it up with the Yankees, that's pretty enticing. I actually want to highlight Austin, Wells, who I have 17th here, and Tyler Soderstrom of the Athletics, who have 15th, both kind of lateish first rounders for those teams and both catchers. But both players were kind of rooting not to stay at catcher because their bat is too good to kind of deal with the uncertainties that go along with that position. And you'd hate to see them stalled or see their development stunted as hitters because they both look like middle of the order, OPS monsters,

average in power. I'm really excited about Tyler Sauterstrom and Austin Wells both. I'm looking at them in my dynasty leagues. But, and kind of the feeling behind that is because they're catchers right now and because there's a tendency in dynasty leagues to avoid catchers, these guys are going to fall. Yep. But I think in the long run, you know, neither team is saying they're not going to be

catchers, but neither one is that good at catching. So in the long run, as good as they are. are as hitters, hopefully they moved to another spot. And then that would actually, it would seem like a steal in retrospect where you got them. Scott, I do just have to correct you on one thing. You said you're looking at them in your dynasty leagues. Our dynasty league, Scott, because I am in the Scott White Dynasty League. And I just found out right before we started recording this that I have the 11th pick in the rookie draft. So boom, just wrote down the names, Austin Wells and Satterstrom, as people I might want to take with my pick.

There you go. We're going to wrap there. For Scott, I have Frank. Thank you all for listening and watching Fantasy Baseball today. We'll be back again tomorrow with Ariel Cohen talking ATC projections and salary cap draft strategy. See you then. Bye-bye.