Fantasy Baseball Today - 2023 Top Outfield Prospects & Dynasty Trade Targets! (12/1 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)
Episode Date: December 1, 2022Will Corbin Carroll hit for power in the majors (3:53)? ... Are we buying the Jackson Chourio hype (13:55)? Is Druw Jones the top pick in first-year player drafts? ... How concerning are the strikeout...s for James Wood and Elijah Green (19:00)? ... How do we project Zac Veen and Jasson Dominguez (25:25)? ... Are Pete Crow-Armstrong's numbers for real (33:10)? ... What is Evan Carter's skillset (35:22)? Should you buy or sell on Robert Hassell (36:25)? ... When might we see Jordan Walker (38:50)? ... News (43:20): Shelby Miller signed with the Dodgers. ... Oscar Colas, Brennen Davis and a few Brewers outfield prospects could contribute next season (46:45). ... We wrap up with buy/sell candidates in dynasty (55:56). Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Get Fantasy Baseball Today merch here: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-baseball-today?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-baseball-collection Follow FBT on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fbtpod?_t=8WyMkPdKOJ1&_r=1 Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's Frank, Scott, and Chris.
Outfield prospects, not nearly as loaded as the shortstop position, but still pretty awesome.
Let's talk about it.
Welcome in to Fantasy Baseball today.
And welcome to December.
Frank Sample joined by Scott Dubb, Scott White,
Chris the Welsh. Today on the show, you got it. Top 10 outfield prospects and dynasty and which some of
those names could make an impact this coming season. Fun fact, one of them being drafted inside
the top 70 overall players over at the NFBC right now. Scott, two questions for you, right off
the top. Where's the Santa Hat? And how do you feel about soccer? I was, I thought we could keep the
soccer conversation private. I was about to ask you the same thing regarding the Santa
hat because you said you were going to break yours out too and we were just going to,
we're going to wear it straight through to Christmas. Hold on, hold on. I said this weekend,
the tree is going up and that's when I'm going to look for the Santa hat. So next year,
did you actually, did you say that exact thing? I think so. If I didn't, then I thought it and I
just didn't say it. So when did the tree go up? When did the tree go up? I think it's a critical
question. Me? My tree. Your tree. Okay. Well, this is rehashing.
the people who listened for the people who listened Tuesday.
But it went up the day after.
It went up the day after Thanksgiving.
Okay.
Which has always been the tradition, even when I was.
That's what I was curious about.
Was it a tradition type of thing?
Like, it's got to go up over.
We put up before Thanksgiving.
So ours has been up.
We beat all of you.
You know, commies don't follow American rule.
We went before Thanksgiving.
I did all that type of stuff.
And I was just, I was just curious where it was at.
because I'm all for the Christmas hats and I'll join you.
I got a whole load of them in the garage.
We'll break them out and we'll Christmas hat.
We'll get all wear the Santa hats.
All right.
Starting next week,
it's going down.
I guess we're going to be talking about pitching prospects next week.
And so we will all be donning the Santa hat at that point.
You know,
little talk.
I got reindeer antlers too.
Oh,
well, Scott,
you got to go with those.
1,000 percent.
If you don't break down soccer with those reindeer hats,
uh,
Antlers on, please.
Uh,
yeah,
what do you think of the,
USA game the other day. We're not going to talk about soccer. Anyway, before we get into the
prospects, Welsh, how you doing? But how are the white Russians the drink, of course?
Oh, you follow me on Twitter. A little too much, little too much. Your boy doesn't really
get down too hard ever. I didn't keep it relatively just narrow based and pretty controlled. I didn't
really control myself on Thanksgiving. I set an over under. We hit the over and kind of lost Friday,
if you know what I mean.
Just kind of Friday was a wash day after Thanksgiving, no shopping, no Black Friday,
just laying around and trying to feel better was about it.
How did you enjoy the White Rider?
Because I saw that you got down a little bit.
Yeah, I didn't post it on Twitter, but I did send you a little snapshot there.
They were great.
It was awesome.
I say they, because I did drink multiple as well, but they're really good.
I enjoyed it.
So thank you for putting me on that.
And I guess we'll have to wait again until next year for some more White Russians.
For the next time I will have any.
Yeah, I can imagine drinking those too often.
Let's jump into outfield prospects, and of course we will start up top.
These are the Welsh's top outfield prospects in Dynasty,
and we'll start with number one on this list.
Actually, two of the top three are going to come from the same team, in fact.
The Arizona Diamondbacks.
Corbyn Carroll is the number one outfield prospect right now.
He did have a cup of coffee with the Diamondbacks this past season,
where he hit 260 with four homers, two steals.
in 32 games played, this dude is fast.
I said it at the end of the season.
I know this isn't actually true,
but he looks like the fastest player,
the fastest human on the planet when he's running.
There's just something about him.
He looks fast, he is fast,
100% percentile in sprint speed according to statcast.
Monster minor league numbers,
but Welsh, what I want to ask you about
is the power for real,
because I know in the Diamondbacks minor league affiliates,
they have some places where they play
where obviously offense is inflated,
power is inflated.
Do you think that maybe that will over-project
what his power will be in the majors?
How do you feel about Corwin Carroll from that aspect?
I mean, I think there's always the potential
for over-projection.
I wouldn't say that that's not a possibility.
I think the biggest thing that people look at
is just like he's slight a frame.
You know, he's not a big guy.
I mentioned this a couple times.
I actually got to sit in with him
about three weeks ago, maybe a month ago.
I was hanging out with him
in an autograph signing and I was helping out with a person of mine, Dennis Sidler, who does all that
stuff. And he looked big. He looked bigger than he had ever before. He's been a monster workout guy.
Something I've always loved about him too. He's kind of had a tutelage thing. Like he's worked with guys.
Remember, he worked with Jordan Lawler when they were rehabbing. He's worked with Christian Robinson
whenever he comes back. And he's always talking swings. He's a baseball guy. He's kind of an analytics guy.
He's really smart. And, you know, I'm open to the possibility of the inflated numbers.
but listen, the guy hit 24 homers last year in 93 games.
And he still hit seven in the PCL.
He hit 16 of them in the Texas League,
which might be a little bit more friendly.
But that's not something that he's not going to be capable of
when he gets to the majors.
I think I've talked about this before.
Maybe think Mookie Betts.
And I don't want to make it like a crazy thing
because you don't want to get nuts about it.
But like Mookie Betts had the kind of slight of frame,
but he had the wherewithal, the bat speed,
and the barreling to make the most out of those hits.
And Arizona is a hitter-friendly place.
I really truly believe,
I don't know if it's going to happen this season.
You kind of saw it fall apart a little bit with like an Alec Thomas.
I think Corvin Carroll is a legit 20-40 candidate in the major leagues.
And I don't know if it's going to take a couple years or not.
But I really, really believe in the bat to ball skills with him.
And seeing him get bigger because I saw him,
is this like little kid that came out, this skinny little kid.
and this guy is building muscle on what is acknowledging a slight frame.
But I try to liken it to Mookie Betts a little bit.
And I don't think there's a lot of holes in his game.
It's just going to be learning the game of baseball and repetition,
like he said on the minors at the major leagues.
And just personally being around him for as long as I have,
he's as smart as they come.
And he's as dialed in as they come.
And as a 19-year-old, he's out there coaching some of his other teammates.
So I don't think he'll be a big vocal leader,
but I think he'll be a behind the scenes leader.
And I really, really do think that the power,
though it won't be insanely substantial,
maybe like a mooky bets putting up like 30 plus homers,
I think he can touch between 15 and 20 as kind of a safe number in my mind.
The early steamer projections for Corbyn Carroll over on Fangraphs,
17 homers and 14 steals over 122 games.
So if you think he can get to 150 plus games,
that projects out as like a near 2020 player.
And in fact, I agree with you, Welsh.
I think the speed is more likely to come than the,
power, at least this upcoming season for.
And also, you know, Toroilevello has been very suppressive of speed in many years.
Like, you'd look at guys.
Like, why is Catele not running?
You would look at a host of these players.
Why are these guys not running?
All of a sudden this last year, you saw that kind of get unleashed.
You saw Rojas and McCarthy both go over 20.
Corbyn Carell is faster than both of these guys.
And if he's hitting at the top of the lineup, they need to be aggressive.
And as we've said, a gazillion times on this, when there is an advantage, baseball will take
care of it, the added base pass, the throwing over, that's going to be an advantage for Corbyn
Carroll that I would actually be shocked if the stolen base numbers aren't one, you know,
one and a half times the home run numbers this year. So if it's 17 homers, I really think the power
is got to push 25 or so. But it'll be a little indicative about what the diamondbacks do,
but they want to be aggressive. They might even jump into the scene and sign some big hitters.
And hopefully Corby Carroll is hitting at least near the top of the lineup.
Scott, the early ADP for Corbyn Carroll over at the NFBC is 66.4.
17th outfielder off the board.
Your thoughts on that price.
17.
Yeah.
It's a little high for me.
I have them 22nd.
So not a huge difference.
And the big drop-off comes,
there's a small drop-off pretty much right after that
and then a really big drop-off a little further behind that.
So, I mean, Corbyn Carroll's on the right side of the drop-off.
off for me. And of course, NFBC, they're always going to sell out for upside on that particular site.
So you've got to keep that in mind to Corby and Carol, of course, has a ton of upside.
And I love the lofty comparison to Mookie Betts. I love lofty comparisons in general. I think prospect evaluators in general are too conservative with that kind of stuff.
because I mean obviously we know that's not the most likely scenario.
You're trying to imagine what this guy could become.
But I will say this about Corby and Carroll
because he is in the discussion as the number one overall prospect.
I feel like compared to other prospects we've seen
rank that high over the years, Corby and Carroll,
maybe is a little more likely to reach his
floor than some of them
and I think it's a high floor
but I guess what I'm getting at is
okay you look at Corby and Carroll's minor league track record
very impressive everything came so easily to him
from the beginning even missing a lot of time to injury
that is a major mark in his favor
but we learned that double A
and AAA for the Diamondbacks
especially are just
crazy hitter-friendly environments.
We saw that play out with
Alec Thomas after he got to the majors.
The power that was showing up at those levels
just wasn't there.
On the other end, we saw that happen
with the pitchers, Ryan Nelson
and
Drake Jameson.
Yeah, after they got to,
they had horrible numbers.
And then they come up and they're dominating the Dodgers
and the Padres right out of the gate.
And I just wonder if,
you know, at a time when it's really hard
to gauge what any player's power translates to
because of all the changes happening throughout the sport?
What does Corbyn Carrolls look like?
He is small, like, that's not his standout skill.
I think he's going to be great.
I'm not saying you need to sell high on him in Dynasty or anything,
but I just, he doesn't seem like as much of a slam dunk maybe
as we're used to number one, number two overall type prospects being.
From a slam dunk perspective, just to throw out, like, I think from a flashiness standpoint,
like he doesn't have the swagger or the, you know, the name brand recognition of a Ronald Acuna or Vladimir
Guerrero.
But I think the floor is really there.
And I think the thing that holds him back is this is a guy that is in a small market.
He's in a diamond bags team.
This isn't a big market team.
Just a couple things to throw out to.
Corby and Carol, if you exclude his rookie year, which, by the way, was the one that I saw in
rookie ball when he was out here.
and he was phenomenal.
If you exclude that,
and I know we're talking AA and AAA and you were also mentioning,
if you want to even take those away,
but if you add in high A and low A,
Corvin Carroll,
besides rookie ball,
has had a 3, 4, 5 slash at every single level of baseball that he's played.
He has also had an ISO over 240 at every single level as well.
He's slight a frame, even when he was even tinier,
the power was still showing off at every stop, regardless of the hitting environment.
When he was out here with the Diamondbacks, he did only hit two homers in 31 games,
stole 16 bases.
But again, you're looking at a guy who has a high walk rate walk 60 times in the minors this past year,
barely struck out over 100.
He's had a 3, 4, 5 slash at every minor league stop, a 200 ISO.
He barrels up the ball with crazy speed.
I mean, I agree with everything you're saying.
It's just I think the floor is much higher.
than what is being represented or what we might think of in a top prospect with Corby
Karel, which I think screws with our minds a little bit because this is a smaller guy.
But guess what?
That MLB Pipeline player page of his where he's like covered in by the way, Sunblock,
it's the most ridiculous picture ever.
That picture is and the, the measurements are not in line to where he is.
He's not 5 foot 10 anymore.
I'd say he's closer to 6 foot.
I'm 6 foot 4.
I stood next to him.
He's not 150 pounds anymore.
Probably close to 175.
Now, that's not like, ooh, let's freak out or anything like that.
But he is working towards all of that with great, not just good,
great minor league numbers at every single stop.
The thing that is literally holding us back is our visual eyes when we see him and
we're like, that doesn't look like an all-star baseball player.
So I just want to throw that out there that yes,
AA and AAA are kind of inflated, but they're not any different than what he's done at almost
every single stop of the minor leagues.
I think it's a fair, not a fair comp, but it's reasonable that you would compare him to Mookie
Betts because he's also like a smaller guy, power speed combination, obviously a great hit tool as well.
But even like Dustin Bidroa was a small dude too, and he was an awesome baseball player.
He was a great fantasy player as well. So hopefully Corby and Carroll can follow in both of those players' footsteps.
Let's move over to, I'm going to throw two names together here because if not, we're going to be here for a very, very long time.
Jackson Trio of the Brewers, who we spoke about,
little bit last week.
The minor league breakout player of the year, as we mentioned,
outside most people's top 100 prospects coming into the 2020 season,
and now he's inside the top 10, inside the top five on some list.
Just an awesome season.
288 batting average, 20 homers, 16 steals, an 880 OPS as an 18-year-old.
And he, in fact, he's younger than the other player, I'm going to mention,
who was the second overall pick in this year's draft.
Drew Jones, the son of
former stud outfielder Andrew Jones.
Drew Jones, I couldn't even believe
these measurements. Six foot four already?
180 pounds as a 19 year old
projected to be a five tool player.
The only issue, I guess the downside with Drew Jones,
is that he had shoulder surgery to repair
a torn labrum back in August.
So Welsh, throw these two names your way.
Any concern over the shoulder long term
for Andrew Jones? I know sometimes it's hard
to get the power back up to speed.
every shoulder surgery is created differently.
So I don't want to just lump them all in together.
But your thoughts on Drew Jones and the surgery?
And are you buying the hype on a Jackson Churio?
Yeah.
With Jackson Churio, just for a minute, I am.
I and I have been, you know, from the MEDARC rise he had,
which was unbelievable from extended spring training to moving three levels as an 18-year-old
is absolutely unheard of.
A, a 200 ISO at the high.
I almost don't want to count the AA because it was only like six games.
But the A ball and high A put up, you know, pretty good average numbers, at least at the low A, had great power numbers over the 200 side.
Slugging was 488 and high A, 600 in low A. He absolutely dominated. He's the youngest player at every single level.
His body grew. I actually saw him during instructs and it was almost shocking to see from the skinnier kid to how big he's grown that this is real deal.
I mean, the hard hit numbers, I think it was like his first day and extended.
spring training, he was hitting balls over 1-10 they put out here.
And he continued that the entire season.
So, I mean, the upside is real.
The youth is there.
The way he's pressing, this might be a 19-year-old at the major leagues.
And I don't know when the last time we saw that was like Justin Upton is the one that came
to my mind with the Diamondbacks, but there's probably been a couple others.
I don't say a lot of teenagers making the major leagues.
I'm not saying he will, but how they pushed him, I would expect him to play at
AA the entire season.
And the follow-up is going to be the big key, but great power numbers.
Let's see how the swing and miss goes.
And I think that's why he's near the top.
And, you know, Drew Jones is a tough one for a lot of people because he doesn't have the big track record.
But, you know, in Dynasty, this guy prior to being a Diamondback didn't matter what it was.
This was the clear cut number one coming in.
Body projections were nuts.
He hit like over 500 in high school coming in.
He can run.
He can hit.
He's obviously got the tutelage.
You know, the Diamondbacks, unfortunately, they've, I don't know what it is about them with shoulder injuries.
It happened with Corbyn Carroll, happened with Jordan Lawler.
They've lost some of these guys.
But Drew Jones has been out here.
That's one thing I can say, which has been a positive.
And Corbyn Carroll is here.
This is another one of those, just letting you know.
Corbyn Carroll has, in his time, worked with Alec Thomas, and who had some good improvements.
He's worked with Jordan Lawler during that time.
And Carol is out here right now training, as is Drew Jones, as he's been rehabbing.
And I think that's great.
I think that's great to get those guys to work together as Corby and Carol.
We'll literally work with guys on swings.
And there's not a lot of early holes in what we're seeing with Drew Jones.
But the problem is we just don't have a lot.
So this is one of those situations.
This is a true dynasty debate.
Not like Churio.
Churio has a big track record.
Drew Jones does not.
This is a top talent bet.
This is why I have him this high.
He is an absolute superstar.
And he will be the face of this organization,
even though I think Corbyn Carroll will be the leader in the future as these baby backs jump up.
But sure, there's risk inherently put into both of them.
I think there's a lot less Venturio right now, but I am not afraid to make a jump on Drew Jones.
Scott, let's say you're on the clock in your first year player draft in a Dynasty League,
and you have the first overall pick, and you're looking at Drew Jones and Jackson Holiday and Tamar Johnson.
Are you taking Drew Jones there first overall?
Yeah, I am.
And I think the way Jordan Lawler's first professional season went coming off that same procedure,
I mean, he was, there was, it was a big shortstop class, 2021, four guys, Lola Loller was one of them.
But coming off that shoulder surgery with what he did in 2022, like he surged to the top of that list.
Like he looks like the guy to have from that 2021 draft class.
So I don't let that worry me with Drew Jones, who was an easier bet than Loller before suffering that injury.
That's a great point right there.
All right, fair enough. Let's move into two Nationals outfield prospects here.
James Wood and Elijah Green.
James Wood, one of the prized assets that came over to the Nationals in the Juan Soto trade.
Obviously, a massive trade package that included him.
Robert Hassel will talk about in a little bit as well.
A mammoth human being, James Wood, six foot seven.
He's 20 years old, and he had a monster season in the minors.
Not monster season, actually.
It was really good, but he just didn't play that much, 76 games overall.
313 batting average 12 homers 20 steals with a 956 OPS and then Elijah Green was the fifth overall pick in this year's draft he turns 19 in just three days from now December 4th happy birthday Elijah Green if you're listening the son of former NFL tight end Eric Green so another shout out there another one big body here already kind of developed six foot three 225 at 19 years old that is just crazy crazy to see Scotty I'll start you off here James Wood and Elijah Green
I know you're working up your prospect rankings and not up to outfield yet,
but you've got something to think about here when you're comparing these two,
James Wood and Elijah Green.
Who would you rather have?
Yeah, I think James Wood, generally speaking,
I'm going to lean toward the guy who has done it longer as a professional.
And James Wood, you know, I liked him a lot going into last year,
and I was kind of
I kind of held back
in the dynasty leagues
where I could have gotten him
because it seemed like
I don't know
I kind of just got
caught up in
what was the popular sentiment
at the time which is oh yeah there's
you know there's upside here
but you know he's not quite a top 100 guy
whatever he's had big strikeout issues
in the past and oh they got
they did get better late in the year
but, you know, he's six foot seven.
That's probably not going to hold.
And then it did pretty much hold.
And he continued to walk a ton.
He has, with that six foot seven frame, he has lots of power.
It's easy to make, it's easy to make the Aaron Judge comparison with anybody who's six foot seven.
Of course, we've been doing it with O'Neill Cruz, too.
And I don't have precise exit velocity readings for James Wood to know if he really fits in that category.
But I think the upside is enormous with that combination of power and plate discipline.
and the fact he's not getting buried alive by strikeout rate.
You know, still just low A ball.
Pitching's not great there.
But even so, I really like the direction James Wood is trending.
And everybody else seems to, too.
So he's kind of priced himself out of the discussion in my own dynasty leagues,
maybe some shallower ones.
You can still get him for pretty cheap.
Welsh, where are you at on the strikeouts in particular when it comes to James Wood?
I noticed a near 18% strikeout.
rate in 50 games in the Padres organization this past season. And then that shot up to 28% in 21
games with the Nationals. Where are you at on strikeouts with him? I've always struggled with him because
there's something you're going to notice too. If you look at his stat line, go back and look at his
2022 when he came in the complex because he was rehabbing. And that's when I saw a ton of him this past
year. And he was awful. He was horrific out here. He had an almost 37% strikeout rate. He at 1.25
in complex. Think about the pitchers. Think about the pitchers.
that are out here in a complex league.
He was so bad.
He was overswinging everything.
It was five games, to be fair.
Yeah, and he was awful.
And I saw three of them.
I went to three of them.
Okay.
Scotty.
And he was horrific and all of them.
My point to that is,
and this is a personality cork I've seen with James Wood,
is the playing down thing didn't work for him.
He's a play-up guy.
Like coming down to a level,
a place he didn't want to be.
He didn't want to be there.
And he was just getting his.
reps in, it wasn't trying. So he was really difficult for me to manage because in the minute he
came back up, just started destroying balls, stealing bases at an aggressive clip. His strikeout rate was
under 20%. I think adjustments are very hard for him and that's going to be a slow role for him.
I mean, I think the adjustment of going to Washington is he's got a big loopy swing. He can get on top
of stuff. But when he gets his pitch, he gets his fastball, he crushes it. He's an insane physical talent,
a six foot seven guy. It's kind of in the Jordan Walker mold of like, how do you have more stolen bases
commerce this past year. It's just there. Long strides, long arms. He can get there with good speed,
good athleticism. I do think he's going to grow out of the body, though, from what I've seen,
from even the very first day. He actually thinned out a little bit. I saw him in his professional
debut, and he thinned out from there. But I mean, this is a guy that, you know, the list pushing
240. I think that can get a little bit higher. So I think the stolen basis will go by the wayside.
I think the strikeouts will be a problem as he gets further up. But it doesn't change the talent. It doesn't
take away from the talent at all from James Wood. Real quick on Elijah Green. I know he's got
big power, speed. Maybe some people have question marks about the ability to make contact. Well,
is your thoughts on that. And where would you take him in first year player drafts? I can tell you,
he actually reminds me a lot of Jordan Lawler. He was actually my number one guy very early in the
process over Drew Jones. Drew Jones had an insane jump as to Jackson Holiday. This was my number one
guy because of the insane athleticism already had this big mature body can hit absolute tanks,
but he does have a strikeout problem.
He struck out 40% in Complex League this past year.
But this is similar to James Wood.
It's insane talent in, you know, only 12 games.
He still put up a three, four, five slash while striking out 40% of the time.
A little Khalil Watson ish, if you will as well.
I don't know.
I tend at lower levels to bet on massive talent.
Even a guy like Clil Watson, I would throw out.
Everyone's like, done, done.
I'm doing a mock draft with a fan tracks tool shed.
And I took Lil Watson like almost in the 200s because I still believe in big talent at lower
levels because there's so much that can be adjusted to and there's so much time to readjust.
So when I see the guys like Elijah Green and James Wood having strikeout issues,
I kind of throw it by the wayside a little bit, though it might like kind of check where
we're going to put him.
Elijah Green's talent is near the top.
And in first year player, I've got him as my, I think I have him as number two right now.
I've got him and Tarmar Johnson as like two, three, almost right next to each other.
All right.
Let's move on to six and seven on this list.
Two players we actually saw out in the Arizona Fall League,
Zach Veen of the Rockies and Jason Dominguez of the Yankees.
Zach Veen, a very unique player this past season hit 245 with 12 homers and 55 steals.
Every time I looked at a box score for the Arizona Fall League,
it seemed like Zach Vine had multiple walks and multiple steals.
The first time I saw him,
in the AFL. He walked and he stole a base. So he's just kind of a unique player in that way. Jason
Dominguez, all in all productive season as a 19 year old, 273, 16 homers, 37 steals. Did get five
games in at double A as a 19 year old this past season. Out at the AFL, I mean, for me at least,
I know Welsh, you saw him a lot more. It was a mixed bag, some loud contact. He hit a double in the
fall stars game, which obviously is pretty impressive. You're going up against the best competition
there. But he also had some really bad swings and he had some defensive miscues as well.
So I guess we'll start with Vien and Dominguez. Vien, where do you see the hit and the power
coming for him? And for Dominguez, do you think his ceiling is still as high as maybe people
originally thought? So I think Dominguez is still sitting in this middle line spot because just like
you said, I think he over-delivered on the season that he had and got an aggressive.
push. I think the stolen bases were good. He had some homers. I think he defied expectations where a lot of
people were kind of down on him. Arizona Falling was awful. It was really, really bad when we kind of
came down to it. I thought he had some good at bats. He was one of the youngest guys out here. His effort
level stunk. He had not just a couple defensive miscues, probably the most of anybody. It was really bad.
But, you know, he's still a massive talent. And you also have to consider a little bit in this
entire process when you talk about dynasty is overall value. And the value of a guy like Jason Dominguez
when he's working is enormous. And he did put up some really great counting stats. And I think some of
the talent is there. I think he's in this critical phase right now that I'm struggling with of like,
where are we going to go from here? Because it was a good season, not the best. It was a bad AFL,
not the worst. And this is the transitional time where I think it's going to be key on him. So that's kind of
where I'm sitting with Jason Dominguez.
And Zach Veen, you know, I've talked about it full on.
He's one of the biggest risers that change my mind from the Arizona Fall League because
his contact-based approach, I think, is going to work very well in baseball.
I think he's going to steal way more than anybody expects.
He's one of the best best base dealers I've ever seen with the long stride crazy leads he
gets on pitches as well.
And he's just this eccentric crazy athlete.
But I do think you just have to know he's not going to hit elite power.
He's a complete opposite of the guy that during the draft, everybody projected.
Like, look at this guy with great projectable power.
He's going to hit big.
We don't know about speed.
And then in rookie ball, he did the exact opposite.
It's still going.
But he's improving as a hitter.
Doesn't strike out a ton.
Like you said, he was walking a bunch.
He's super aggressive.
I really, really like Zach Veen.
And he's a guy that I'm buying in right now because I just don't think people are there with him.
And, you know, he has this long, wiry frame where it,
didn't surprise me if he added power.
He's still young enough where he could do it.
I think he's turning 21 this month as well in December.
But, yeah, like, that was one thing that stood out to me is that he's, he's very wiry for as big as he is.
He slugged 501 at low A in 2021 did Zach Fien.
And as you pointed out, Chris, he profiled more as a power hitter when he was drafted.
And it is, like, it was such a weird season.
He had 245 slug 384 this year just to put.
just to put numbers on it to talk about what a disappointing year it was for Zach Vien.
And yet he stole 55 bases, sold 16 and 21 games in the Arizona fall late.
And he's like, he's not that fast.
But the success rate is really high.
He seems like somebody who knows how to take advantage of the pickoff rules
that are now coming to the majors and is going,
showing that aggression.
I am starting to be more confident that Zach Veen is going to remain a base stealer.
And the fact he's going to be in Colorado.
I mean, obviously that ups his offensive profile as well.
It's going to help him get the most out of whatever power he ends up having.
So just by virtue of the numbers being so bad apart from the steals total in the minors this year,
I think now is a great buy low opportunity for Zach Veen in Dynasty leagues
because I think they're going to be, as you kind of alluded to, Chris,
a lot of people who are going to start fading him coming off the year he had.
Yeah, and the only thing I'd point out too, which is kind of interesting was Zach,
when you talk about the speed in AA on fan tracks under the advanced metrics you can check out
when you take a look at speed numbers.
His speed number in AAA was a 3.8, but he was an 8.7 in high A and a 7.1 in low A.
And for perspective, the highest registered in the major leagues this year was an 8.4 by Jorge
Mateo, just for perspective about him, because I agree.
I didn't think he was necessarily that fast.
The guy can fly, though.
He really can.
And it's a lot based off of this really unique leadoff that he can get.
And he is just long limbs that he's almost got this extra advantage of not only the
basis being the tiniest bit smaller, but just in his length and where he can get to.
So he's surprisingly fast for his size.
And he's just one of those guys never grew into the body, never grew into the body,
never grew into the body that we thought we were going to see, which is really,
really unique and Colorado's just that extra benefit with him.
And I wanted to comment on Jason Dominguez too because he is somebody who is so well known
despite having little professional experience.
Jack Centurio has kind of become what we thought Jason Dominguez was going to be.
And so from that perspective, Dominguez is a disappointment.
but I've noticed in my dynasty leagues that there seems
I'm not sure anybody's evaluating Jason Dominguez quite right
because you have some still treating him like that Jackson Churio level prospect
and you have others who are kind of just out on him oh this guy's a bust
he's 19 years old and he got to AA last year like without talking about anything else
that speaks volumes of his potential to reach that level at that age
and between two levels of A ball and double A,
he reached base at a 376 clip,
16 homers, 37 steals.
And he's so young still that
I think Dominguez is a really good prospect.
I mean, you rank him seventh here among outfield prospects,
so I understand that's maybe not a novel thing to say.
But again, it's like he doesn't have to be
that top two, top three,
three overall type talent to still be a really good prospect.
And I kind of feel like people are taking extreme views with him that they don't need to take.
Spoken like a real Yankees fan.
I will take that, Scotty.
Real quick, one word answer.
More likely to buy or sell Jason Dominguez and Dynasty right now.
Scott, buy or sell?
Buy, but it depends what he's being sold for.
Welsh, same question.
I think bye.
All right.
I think bye.
I've got three more here on this list,
and we'll go a little rapid fire here.
Welsh,
you'll get Pete Crow Armstrong.
Scott,
you'll get Evan Carter of the Rangers,
and then,
well,
she will also get Robert Hassel.
We'll go a little bit back and forth here.
Pete Crow Armstrong with the Cubs.
Came over in the Javier Bias trade
a few years back with the New York Mets,
and all he did,
go out, have a massive season,
312 batting average,
16 homers,
32 steals,
and 896 OPS.
Welch's might be a weird question,
but is he as good as the number suggests,
because I looked at multiple prospect outlets,
and they had his hit and power tools lower than I thought they were going to be.
What do you think?
Yeah, no, that was a really typical thing.
Funny enough, just to make this kind of quick, to what you're saying,
I always really liked Peacro Armstrong.
He got a lot of the weird comps to like Jared Kelnick,
because they're both, you know, with the Mets and traded and blah, blah, blah.
But, you know, Pekar Armstrong was one of those really great top high school hitters.
I hit a little bit across his body, but always made good contact.
That, what you're just marking right there, was something that he got dinged for when he was off to this insane start in 2021.
There was over six games.
He hit 417.
I think he had a four hit game in there.
A couple stolen bases.
He was off great.
And then he got injured and missed a bunch of time.
And everyone was like, okay, well, it's a short sample size, blah, blah.
And it was like, no, dude.
He is making really, really good changes and working out with the Cubs and look at what he's done.
And then he followed that up after everybody disputed that with this minor league season.
where he hit 344 in A ball.
He dropped down a little bit at high A,
but he still hit 287.
Power distribution was good.
Stolen bases were aggressive across both.
He hit 13 in 38 games in A ball,
and he had 19 in 63 games.
This is a professional hitter, man.
I think the counting stats might be a bit inflated to who he truly is.
I don't think he's going to be this big, like, 20, 30 guy in the majors,
but I think he's a way better hitter than any of the outlets have had,
and I think you're going to see a lot of people changing that up.
So Pete Crow Armstrong on list, I think when you get into the new year,
is going to be ranked probably higher than Brennan Davis on a lot of others
and might be the number one prospect for the Cubs in many places.
And I think that'll surprise a lot of people.
All right, we'll get into Brennan Davis in just a little bit as well.
Scott Evan Carter, a prospect with the Rangers, strong season all around.
He hit 295, 12 homers and 28 steals.
Based on what I've read about him, he's mostly hit in speed with like a dash of power.
Any thoughts on Evan Carter?
Yeah, I think maybe I give him a little more credit for power and a little less credit for speed,
not to say he can't contribute some of both.
I mean, the main way Evan Carter stands out is just like plate discipline, gets on base a ton,
makes contact at a really high rate, my kind of prospect, really.
And I think probably a better real-life prospect than fantasy even,
at least if we're talking, you know, categories, leagues, roto leagues.
But yeah, he's, he should contribute, especially with the rule change is coming.
He should contribute enough speed that even if he peaks as like a 20 homer guy, he'll still be a quality option in fantasy.
All right.
Last name on this list is Robert Hassel, who came over to the Nationals, also in that Juan Soto trade.
Tale of two seasons here, Welsh.
75 games with the Padres organization.
This past season, he hit 299 with 10 homers and 20 steals.
37 games with the Nats, 219, 1 homer, 4 steals.
Same question as Dominguez, more likely to buy or sell, Robert Hassel.
I think I'm a buyer. I'm a buyer here.
I think he's at an all-time low.
I think people are really, really out on him,
and I know there were tons of questions that I would kind of press back on a lot of people
with, where's the power, where's the power, where's the power?
and the move didn't help him because he had 10 homers when he was with the Padres
and he ended up hitting only one in 37 games in the move.
So I think he's at an all-time low.
I've seen a ton of him.
I really like his approach.
I think there's going to be some aggressiveness in it, but with high contact.
He hadn't quite grown as far as his body was and I really wanted to see it.
And frankly, he was in the Arizona Falling and he got hurt and we could have seen him a whole
bunch more.
I think the move is rough.
I don't think we account for that enough.
for players that a move from an organization like the Padres to the Nationals is probably
pretty jarring. You have a whole different philosophy and coaching and just the mental aspect of it.
So I mean, I'm making excuses a little bit, but I just think he's talented. I think he can run.
I think he's a lot like Pete Crowe Armstrong, if we're being honest. Pete Crow's body is progressing
a little bit more. And I'm just not ready to give up, even though it was a really, really bad run
with the Nationals. I think this can turn around. I think he's an absolute deal right now because
all the players we talked about, he might be the lowest.
He might be the lowest in value in many people's minds right now.
And I'm not trying to say that he can be had for nothing,
but I really think this is a prime buy low opportunity.
We're not going to have to give up big assets to pick up a guy like Hassel
because everybody is down.
Yeah, I've tended to be lower than the consensus on Robert Hassel,
who would, I mean, the consensus since they were both drafted was Hassel over Veen.
And I was always the other way around.
But even as somebody who's doubted Hassel's power potential
has been kind of the low guy on him,
I've been shocked to see where he's ranked
on some of these early prospect rankings.
I just don't see the justification for moving off him that fast.
So I agree Hassels like Veen is the by-low right now.
I believe we spoke about Jordan Walker on the third base prospects,
but we obviously could mention him here
because he's more likely to play the outfield.
Actually, he is likely to play the outfield for the St. Louis Cardinals.
Welsh, if you were ranking Walker on this list, would he be ahead of Jackson Churio and Drew Jones?
He would be ahead of Drew Jones.
He would not be ahead of Jackson Churio.
Oh, and funny enough with me and all my little mistakes of the players and how you guys value them.
I had Jordan Walker when I copied this list and sent to you.
And I was like, wait a minute, I'm going to get got.
I'm going to get got by Frank.
If I do this because of my personal list, he's going to be an outfielder.
I list him as an outfielder, but clearly he's a third baseman.
He's number three on the list.
Okay, and his early ADP, according to NFBT, 258.
Does that sound kosher?
I don't think he starts on the opening day roster with the Cardinals,
but I think we could see him up relatively soon if he gets off to a nice start.
I do too.
Would you guys be willing to take him in that range?
250-60-ish?
I think it's a solid value.
I honestly think he has a chance to break camp with how they've moved him.
I think we follow it.
I just want to point out, when we were in February, there was no indication that Julio Rodriguez the last year was going to break camp of the Mariners.
It seems silly at that point.
And then all of a sudden in March...
I was saying it.
All right.
I was taking him in all those early months.
You were super smart about it.
I'm a little skeptical that Walker, not that he isn't talented enough to break camp with the team.
I just think, like, who would the Cardinals be giving up on in order to do that?
they had a lot of issues in their outfield,
but it was like Tyler O'Neill underperforming,
Dylan Carlson underperforming, other guys getting hurt.
Of course, Lars Neupar came on late,
and I think they're still going to want to give him a lot of run next year.
So I'm just not sure the opening is there,
barring injuries for Walker to break camp with the team.
But life finds a way, as they say.
And if he's crushing it in the upper miners, you know, at some point,
somebody's going to slump his way out of the lineup or get hurt or whatever else.
So, yeah, I mean, that range is never a bad idea, $250 to take a shot on upside.
And NFBC specifically where your bench space always feels really restricted.
It might be harder to justify there.
But, you know, I think to the general fantasy player, it's not a bad idea to throw a late-round pick at Jordan Walker.
No, I think it's a fair point, Scott.
The projected outfield right now for the Cardinals, Lars Neupar, Tyler O'Neill, Dylan Carlson.
They have Juan Yeppez, Pentelden at DH.
They still have Alec Burleson on their bench, someone who had a-Nolan Gorman doesn't have a clear spot.
Yeah, so they've got some names.
I've seen some Tyler O'Neill trade rumors floated about, so I guess maybe they could do something like that if they want to open up a spot.
But we'll see what happens.
You know, a big spring training out of Jordan Walker, I don't think that they would hold them back.
And just obviously, you got to figure it out.
you know, hey, they want to maybe get a first round pick and they want to throw this guy out there.
They might want to get into that.
Think of how much the Cardinals are going to be in this investment market.
There's also rumors floating around that they've got a lot of talent that maybe they're going to trade off to help their major league team.
I mean, you know, I was just talking with someone about this today.
I don't know where Mason Wendt goes right now, especially what if this team gets in on Dansby-Swanson?
What if they have a little depletion?
And then you go out and you throw and say, hey, if Jordan Walker's on this team, are we better set with,
Jordan Walker, Tyler on the O, or is it just cross-cancel each other? Well, guess what?
Jordan Walker is on every single list out there. If he breaks camp and he wins rookie of the year,
which he's got that monster power and speed, you just got yourself a first round pick and the rich get richer.
And clearly they should covet him. And they do because that was the main piece that the Nationals
wanted in the Wandsoto trade. And the Cardinals said, no, they were just not willing to go that far to
give up Jordan Walker. So they clearly covered him and rightfully so. He is awesome. We saw him out of the
AFL and he looked really, really good too.
Really fast, faster than I thought.
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All right, so the bad news is we're kind of up against it.
The good news, there's not really much news to talk about.
So I'm just going to quickly run through this.
If there's anything that you want to interrupt me about, just feel free to jump in.
But we will start with Shelby Miller.
Yes, that Shelby Miller.
He signed a major league deal with the Dodgers.
And before you laugh, because I saw that little chuckle, Welsh.
Ask yourself, how did you feel about Tyler and Anderson and Andrew Heaney before this past season?
Probably not too good, right?
Probably not too good.
you're going to do that with Shelby
I'm not saying he's going to do that
but the dark course ERA champ
contender
immediately with this news
come on Andrew heaney
yeah I don't know what the role is going to be
but I guess just minor league
tuck it away somewhere
Shelby Miller with the Dodgers
the nationals have kept busy
they signed Jamer Candelario to a one-year deal
and he was flat out bad this past season
he hit 217 with 13 home runs
in 124 games but
is just one
one year removed from hitting 271 with 16 home runs.
So just a name to remember in deeper mixed leagues
and only obviously Jamer, Candelario,
with the Nationals. And speaking of that team,
my man, Stone Garrett signed a one-year deal with the Nats.
And there's actually a decent chance he plays.
I was looking at their roster resource.
They are just an awful team.
So why wouldn't they just take a shot and see what he could do?
He hit 276 with four homers and three steals in 27 games
with the Diamondbacks last last.
season again this is stone garrett 32% strikeout rate not good 92.9 mile per hour average exit
velocity love it very good yeah we like yeah i love when a player like this who just
doesn't seem to have a path because of you know he's he's an he's an older prospect a late
developing prospect uh he signs with a rebuilding team that doesn't have much going on because like
that's you know we've seen players become all stars in that scenario before i'm not saying
John Garrett will, but he becomes a deep sleeper in my eyes by signing with the nationals.
What's the latest on the rumor mill? The Guardians are among the most active suitors
for A's catcher Sean Murphy, who I do expect to be traded this offseason. The Yankees
have offered Aaron Judge reportedly an eight-year $300 million contract, and I've read that
he could sign somewhere by the end of the winter meetings, which are next week. So,
could be coming pretty soon with Aaron Judge. Wilson Contreras has had discussions with the
Astros recently. I mean,
geez, they are just a
juggernaut. They signed Jose Ibrahim. Now
they're going after Wilson Guthris. Who's
running the team? I thought
about that today, too. You know who it's not going to be.
It's not going to be Jeff Bagwell, apparently.
He doesn't like analytics.
I know. He says
the Astros have been... He doesn't
like the way they've embraced analytics.
They've only been to four of the past
six World Series winning two of them.
I don't think there's much
room for criticism there. He's just like
the dude. He's just like the dude.
standing outside the stadium with a sign
be like, analytics will be the death of us
and he's just, like he's just speaking into
the void. I don't know what Jeff Bagwell's doing.
I'm not a big Simpsons guy.
I'm not opposed to the Simpsons, so I don't even know
if I can quote this, but like, the old man
yelling at Cloud Giff is like,
it's so obvious with Jeff
Bagwell. Last but not least, the Mets
planned to meet with Carlos Verdon sometime
this week. It might have already happened.
It might happen later on in the week. I don't know.
I haven't heard anything else about it.
Let's wrap up with some
outfield prospects to know for redraft,
and we do have some buyer sell candidates
coming up in just a bit.
But no surprise, Corbyn Carroll
mentioned the ADP inside the top 70 already
over at the NFBC.
A few other names here we haven't mentioned yet.
Oscar Colos with the Chicago White Sox,
a 24-year-old
Cuban defector, and he had
a really impressive season,
batting 314 with 23 home runs,
got seven games in a AAA.
Rasta Resource has Eloy Jimenez
and Luis Robert.
in left and center field.
What else?
Would you like to guess
who they have in right field?
Oh, right.
Because let's see.
Andrew Vaughn is at first.
I have no, I have absolutely,
Adam Engel.
It is Oscar Colos.
Oh, yeah.
I thought you said Oscar Coloss when you were saying Robert, my brain.
Yeah, no, I know that because I went and took a look at that earlier.
I thought you said Oscar Coloss.
No, 100%.
That was one of the reasons why I threw him on here besides the fantastic season.
23 homers hit three.
14, nothing like Uelke Cespitis in that, you know,
Uelke was just not hitting anything outside of fastballs.
And if you remember, Oscar Colos was the Cuban Otani, as people might recall where he would
pitch out of the bullpen and that's just completely gone.
But he's a big monstering guy.
He's got a beautiful, big home run swing, doesn't have those inefficiencies that Uelke has.
And he's gotten all the way up to AAA that this is one of those situations where it's like
he's 24 years old.
What more are you gaining from this?
He just needed to get reps and ramped.
back up.
This is the game plan.
So this is why I put him here at number two,
because he's on roster resource as a starter.
He might be a guy that breaks camp right out of the way.
And if not,
he'll be up,
I think,
very soon,
probably right after control time,
if they don't sign him to something.
And Oscar Coloss is going to have some production this year.
All right.
Yeah.
He might have,
he might be a better pick in the five outfielder league than,
than even like Jordan Walker,
because I do think there's a clear,
I mean,
obviously he's not the caliber of prospect.
of Walker, but I do think there's a very clear path for Oscar Coloss.
And of the prospects we've mentioned so far,
with the exception of maybe Jackson Churio,
Coloss is the one that opened my eyes the most in 2022.
All right. Number three and five on this list of
outfield prospects that could contribute this season,
Garrett Mitchell and Sal Freel, like both of the Milwaukee Brewers.
We know last week they traded Hunter Renfro to the Angels.
Minutes after Welsh and I wrapped up on this very podcast,
There was this trade goes down and I'm like, ah, we could have talked about it, but we weren't going to fire it back up just for Hunter Redrow.
Anyway, look, there's a chance both of these guys could earn playing time right out of the gate.
Garrett Mitchell, I was surprised to see he hit 311 last year in 28 games.
I had him on a bunch of teams.
It felt like he was hitting under 200.
He must have had like three or four awesome games to end the season because that number was not 311 when I had him on my team.
I don't know what was going on.
But he did seal eight bases.
He's extremely fast.
He hit the ball really hard.
He also strikes out a lot, Garrett Mitchell does.
Sal Freelich, the opposite.
He makes a lot of contact.
I've seen some comps to Stephen Kwan.
Scott, you mentioned that the other day.
I saw our industry friend Eric Cross
actually make that comp on Twitter the other day as well.
Whilst you think both of these guys
could earn playing time out of the gate,
Garrett Mitchell, Sal Freelick.
The Brewers also have Estuary Ruiz and Joey Weimer.
So lots of names there, lots of mouths to feed.
think? Yeah, Gary Mitchell's already locked up according to Rostor Resource, a gig. I think they
might continue with that. I've never been as big as some others. He's got kind of a across his body
approach, more of like a ground ball type of thing, which hopefully can change. It's kind of something
he had a little bit at UCLA and he continued in the minor leagues, but he steals bases. This is about
production. Self Realic, I think he's the better prospect. He's the guy would want out there. He's
already at AAA. I think he played 46 games, if I'm remembered correctly. So I don't know how
much longer they would want to keep him down there, makes lots of good contact, has more of a
power potential than a Stephen Kwan, I think, but has a lot of that same representation. And I will
tell you the one guy I left off this list, but I could have put on because there's a difference.
For Corbyn Carroll, Oscar Coloss, and then we are coming down a cliff, I think, of production,
because I don't particularly think Garrett Mitchell is the best of all of these, but I think he's
going to break camp. Will Brennan was another guy that I almost put on this list because this is
production. But with the Guardians, I think it's a little bit tougher to crack that.
But I like Will Brennan.
It's a prospect better than I like Garrett Mitchell,
but Garrett Mitchell has the path.
Freelick is the better guy,
but doesn't have the path that Garrett Mitchell currently has.
So that's kind of how I shake those.
Yeah, and that was kind of weird.
Like, I kept waiting for the Brewers to call up South Freelick late last year
because I thought he could make a more immediate impact than,
than Garrett Mitchell was definitely a much higher floor guy than Mitchell.
Lower ceiling guy with Mitchell's blazing.
speed and he has that raw power, but he strikes out too much as you point out, Frank.
And Mitchell's swing is just goofy.
Like, it's not, he's not really capable of elevating for power with the swing plane that he has.
So I'm kind of bearish on Garrett Mitchell, more bullish on Freelick.
And I think Will Brennan, who you point out, is kind of a poor man's free lick.
to the extent Freelick is under the radar, Brennan even more so.
Last point on these two, the early ADP,
Garrett Mitchell going at Pick 318, South Freelick 570.
So there are a lot of deeper drafts going on,
the 50 round draft and holds where people are actually drafting that deep into the draft.
So not that you're listening to this and you're saying,
ah, who's drafting at Pick 570?
There are some people doing that.
Do you have Colosses?
He is past 500 as well.
Really? Yeah.
Really. I just wanted to point that out that's been sticking in my brain.
I wanted to ask you, but didn't want to interrupt.
But like when I kind of agree with that, Scott was saying, like, when you're looking at like Jordan Walker and Oscar Coloss, just think about that.
That's like what, 250, almost 250 pick difference or at least 200.
That's pretty wild.
Yeah. Oscar Coloss 531 right now is the ADP.
So just starting out there.
Once we get past the off season and people take stock of the white socks outfield at that point, of course, bring training starts.
And particularly if Oscar Coloss is doing something in spring training,
his value could potentially skyrocket.
Yeah, sure can.
So if you're doing these early drafts, just keep that in mind.
I mean, Oscar Coloss and Sal Freelick super late,
definitely names you should be looking at in those formats.
Last one I wanted to mention here,
Brennan Davis is actually sandwiched around Garrett Mitchell and Sal Freelick.
He plays for the Chicago Cubs.
There is power speed potential here with Brennan Davis.
But he's been limited by this back injury now.
I would say a fairly serious one.
He played 53 games this past season.
He had surgery on his back.
And then he was supposed to play out in the AFL.
I think he actually went out there for a few games.
He did.
And then he left because he's still kind of dealing with his back injury.
So Welsh, how worried are you about that injury?
And let's just say he's healthy in spring training.
Is there a chance he breaks camp with the Cubs?
So, well, I mean, anything's possible with the Cubs.
Let's not dispute that.
Like, anybody could play really anywhere.
It's really going to be very dependent.
They're a wild card because it's going to be depending on what are they doing free agency that's going to take away.
But listen, like, Brennan Davis has had the biggest up and down that you can imagine.
He is a big physical talent who has had tons of injuries, which you hate.
He was out here on the NFL.
I actually saw three games of his, and he crushed a Homer.
It's on my Twitter.
If people want to check it out, is it the Welsh?
And he looked better than I've ever seen him before.
I think he stole the base.
His swing, he can get like, it doesn't kind of all the way follow through.
But I think the way he approaches his at-bats give him a little bit.
a better path as far as like barreling up balls.
And I thought he just looked really good.
He looked like that old school Brennan Davis that you really love.
But then you got reminded because he was knocked out of the AFL.
No one even knew because of the renewed back injury.
There were rumors that Brennan Davis was going to make his major league debut this past season.
And as far as I know, he was late to the NFL because he had been added to the Cubs taxi squad
right at the back end of the season.
So like, that's how close we were.
We played 40-something games at AAA.
I don't know if they're going to want to start clawing.
the injury set him back so much.
I sent him to the AFL for a very specific reason.
I put him on that list because he's going to have to go to AAA.
He's got to show that he can stay healthy for a bit.
But he could be a guy that comes up in May,
pending what they do.
If he were completely healthy and he had played a full go and all the AFL,
listen, I think there'd be a very legit shot that he breaks camp with the team,
and they just get that going and start it up now.
And he would be, I don't know, he might be number two on this list.
I like Brennan Davis a little bit more than other people,
but there's also a trend in me that I give up on guys a little bit less,
especially the bigger talent players.
I give up on them less than a lot of other people.
So Robert Hassel, Brennan Davis,
I saw signs of it in the AFL.
That's why I think we should pay attention.
And he's not going to be held down.
The only against to hold him down in the minors this year is going to be his back.
All right.
Well, let's wrap up with a few buyer-sell candidates in Dynasty,
or I guess Keeper Leagues, we could throw in this discussion,
specifically at the outfield position.
Scott, I know that this is your specialty, baby.
How many you have?
Five, ten of each?
I'm still jotting down names.
It's actually
it's actually tough at this position
to come up with by lows and sell highs
because there is such an early drop-off
and an extreme drop-off.
It's like anybody who's,
anybody who you think is good
you kind of want to hold on to.
And then there are a few beyond that
who you see a lot of potential to improve.
But okay.
Without being so wishy-washy.
I will call Eloy Jimenez, a by-low.
I think the way he came on after his time with the injury showed he has that, you know,
290 hitting 30-35 homer potential still, but the injuries and the frustrations of that have kind of taken it out of people's minds.
He's not a base dealer, so that devalues him some in people's minds.
But I think he's going to be well-suited for the environment we're entering into.
Tyler O'Neill call a by-low.
Don't know what happened with his quality of contact this year,
but he's really strong and I think he can get it back.
Sell high, I'm going to put Adolice Garcia here,
and I'm kind of taking every opportunity I can to talk him down.
I think people who, you know, if they're just making a quick trade,
they might not consider how old he is.
He's 29, I think.
And he's recently emerged.
So I think there's going to be a tendency for people to presume he's younger than he actually is.
And major plate discipline issues there, which I never like.
So Jared Kelnick and Byron Buxton, I could go either way with.
I'd be inclined.
And I guess we could put Joe Adele in this group, too, Kelnick and Adele kind of in the same boat.
I if the cost is next to nothing I'll buy
and I think it could be next to nothing
because they've done next to nothing with repeated opportunities
I think Adele is almost nothing
I think Kelnick there's still more but I agree
I think Adele is almost nothing at this point
especially after that Renfro trade I'm to the point with both of them
where I'll be surprised not fall out of my chair
surprised but I'll be surprised if they turn into
significant fantasy assets.
So I'm, if there's somebody who's eager to buy low,
I might be inclined to sell low in a way that I actually think is kind of high,
if that makes sense.
All right.
Well she?
Oh, no.
Scott's just going.
Okay.
All right.
No, no, no.
It's going to keep it.
I love the sky.
Just keep rolling.
You can keep to let them roll.
Yeah.
There's one that's like, there's one you want to get out.
There's one you want to get out.
I kind of saved my favorite two for last year.
By-low, Alex Kiroloff.
I will never give up on Alex Kiroloff.
He got that wrist shaved, down.
Like, he actually had the bone reduced.
Sounds gruesome.
Like a haircut.
It sounds like out of the movie Gattaca.
But hopefully that resolves the wrist issues once and for all,
and we'll see the true Alex Kiroloff finally.
And I also consider Brian Reynolds a by-low.
he's not that young
but I think he'll be out of Pittsburgh
soon which will help his run RBI production tremendously
and he's a fast runner who doesn't steal bases
so I could see his stolen base total skyrocketing
with the rule changes taking effect next year
and everybody running more aggressively because of it
unless he goes to the Miami Marlins
because that is a rumor I have seen floated around
so I'd still be better than Pittsburgh I think
Not much better.
Can't get much worse than Pittsburgh.
All right, Welshey, who you got?
Some buy or sell candidates at the outfield position?
Now, is it for Dynasty or Redraft?
They would work for both, but I'm just curious if you care which one I give you.
Like Dynasty Keepers.
Okay.
Luis Robert, I'll go with the other White Sox outfielder.
Luis Robert is on my list.
Projections are in favor.
He still put up some big hit numbers last year.
He's kind of like a Brennan Deh.
This is kind of my M.O. too.
It's just like I'm such an excuse giver for guys that can get perpetually injured.
But I just, there's something I just can't give up on with major power.
You saw a big kind of sinking ISO this past year, but I think that was heavily dealing with the injuries.
Projections are pretty much in favor of getting close to like a 25-15 season.
He still had good slug numbers.
I think I was just looking at this.
He had a 449-X slug compared to his 426, and his expected batting average was only a couple notches lower than his 284.
So I'm still into Luis Robert.
I think he comes a bunch cheaper, which I dig.
A weird one, just like Sayas Suzuki.
I think Sayas Suzuki is not necessarily like a classic dynasty guy.
But I just think his value is so incredibly low.
And he showed such great plate discipline.
I think he's going to be a whole bunch more in there.
Frank, you're down with Sayout with me.
I was just scrolling through ADP.
I'm like, let me see if I can find a few names.
He was one that just like jumped off the screen for me.
So I'm with.
Yeah, and projected 26 homers this year on Steamer.
And I'll also throw out Riley Green.
Riley Green is one.
I just think no one gives much thought to in the top prospect side.
He is a very, very advanced hitter.
He's a stolen base and power guy,
players with the garbage team.
I think he's being riddled in with Spencer Torkelson's horrible run.
And he's a much better player than people are giving him.
And everyone's looking at one year and canceling him out.
Go buy Riley Green right now.
And if I'm selling, you know, this is an odd one for you,
but I think I might be selling Dalton Varshot.
One of the reasons behind it,
even though he put up some good news,
numbers, you know, I mean, obviously high power totals and stolen bases. There's a lot of trade
rumors that are out there. If he gets moved out of the Diamondbacks Stadium, I might be a little
bit worried. Also, this might be his last year at Catcher. You know, it really might be. If he
loses that qualification, he's unique in that like the nut, like a 27 homer 16 stolen base season.
He had keeps you as a great outfielder still, but he's got a real poorish average. Um,
he has not hit over 250 in his major league career so far. His strikeout numbers are rising. His
walk numbers lowered a little bit and he might lose catching eligibility. That might be someone I
look at as far as one of my outfield cells who's kind of a cheat because he's also a catcher.
I think this one kind of might be cheating as well. I buy high, a by medium maybe,
Oscar Gonzalez, I don't know if people realize how good he is or I think he's going to be a
pretty good player. So just batting average, maybe closes in on 20 home runs or something, but I do like
the skill set quite a bit. Lars Neupar like had that awesome run last year and then really fell off the
face the map, but I think the Cardinals organization likes him quite a bit. I like him quite a bit.
A random one. You might even just be able to pick him up in your dynasty leagues. Brian Dela Cruz,
his stat cast page is awesome. I don't know if it's going to translate. He was really good
the final month of the season. Maybe it turns into something. He's 25 years old, but he absolutely
crushes the ball. Three players I wanted to ask you guys just real quickly. Former top prospects,
kind of what you were saying about Riley Green, Welsh. Alec Thomas, Josh, Josh, Josh,
Hesu Sanchez.
Would you be looking to buy on any in Dynasty right now?
Oh, man.
You could say no.
I don't know if I...
I don't think I am.
I love Alec Thomas,
but I think the power numbers and still...
I think he's just going to be one of those guys
that never puts up big counting stats.
I've always loved Hesu Sanchez,
but I think the swing and miss is always a problem,
bigger power.
Who is the third one?
Josh Lowe from the race.
Nah, I've never been crazy into Josh Lowe.
He needs a new destination.
Josh Lowe, if given a new...
team might be kind of the best of all of them.
So if I had to pick one, if you had made me pick one of those, it would probably be
Josh Lowe.
Scott, any?
I'm pretty much out on all three.
If you're making me pick one, though, I think I would pick Alec Thomas, just because I think he
has the most to work with.
He's like the most skilled of the players.
So, yeah, I'm not totally sure what direction he's going to take.
but I don't think there's quite enough power
for him to become an impact player in fantasy.
All right, Scott,
well, meet me here after the podcast
because I have Alec Thomas in the Scott White Dynasty League,
and who knows, maybe we make a little deal.
What do you say?
I guess we got a deal brewing.
I heard that.
Oh, man.
Yeah, I've got Alec Thomas and Hazieu Sanchez on the team,
so probably not the best.
That's a good place to wrap up for Scott
and Welsh. I am Frank. Thank you all for listening and watching Fantasy Baseball today.
We'll be back again next week. Bye-bye.
