Fantasy Baseball Today - 2026 Second Base & Shortstop Tiers! Freddy Peralta Traded to the Mets! (1/22 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)
Episode Date: January 22, 2026Before we get to the tiers, the Mets are back at it! This time they acquired Freddy Peralta from the Brewers (2:30). ... The Brewers got Jett Williams and Brandon Sproat in return (10:14). ... First u...p we have the elite and near-elite tiers at second base (21:20). ... Luke Keaschall is a polarizing player in the next best things tier (30:09). ... Should Jackson Holliday be higher than the last resorts tier (42:18). ... Hey, shortstop has a first-rounders tier (54:17). ... Should Zach Neto be higher than the near-elite tier (1:00:00)? ... Willy Adames and Dansby Swanson would be totally fine fallback options in a deeper league (1:13:34). Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday Download and Follow Fantasy Baseball Today on Spotify: https://sptfy.com/QiKv Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CPTowers @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's Frank, Scott, and Chris.
Oh my, the New York Mets have been very busy.
Welcome in to Fantasy Baseball today on Thursday, January 22nd.
I am Frank Stample, joined by Scott.
Scott White and Chris Towers. Today on the show, we are continuing on with tiers. We have Scott's second base and shortstop tiers for 2026.
We'll get to that a little bit later on because for the second night in a row, the Mets decided they would make a huge trade.
Well, this trade was much bigger than the previous one, but two trades, two nights in a row.
And so we will start there because the Mets got their ace.
they acquired Freddie Peralta and Tobias Myers from the Brewers
in exchange for prospects Jet Williams and Brandon Sprote
seems like a pretty nice haul, at least from my perspective.
Chris might not agree, we'll get to that in a little bit,
but just one year of Peralta, so I thought that the Brewers did pretty well here.
The Mets needed pitching desperately, obviously.
Peralta is coming off one of the best seasons of his career, 270 ERA 108 Whip,
but it feels like he overperformed a bit.
We've talked about that a lot to solve it.
season. Scott, do you think this move changes the value at all for Freddie Peralta in
2026? No, I don't think it changes it, but it needs to change and it needs to change down
to get into it more. So 2022, 2023, 2024, 24, the three years prior to last year. He had an
ERA in the 3.6 to 3.8 range. Pretty steady there with that ERA, high threes. Last year, it was
270. So it dropped by like a full run last year for Freddie Peralta, even though strikeout rate,
the same, walk rate, the same, ground ball rate, the same, fly ball rate, the same.
Average exit velocity, the same. Everything was the same for Freddie Peralta.
By the components that make up what a pitcher is, he was the same pitcher, and yet his ERA was
of run lower than it always is.
So the natural assumption is Freddie Peralta is going to regress by like a run this year.
Now, it doesn't mean he won't be good.
He's always been good in fantasy.
You know, the guy putting up the 3.6 to 3.80RA was very good.
A top 20 to top 25 type pitcher.
Especially with 200 strikeouts every single year.
Yeah, absolutely.
But I am worried now.
I mean, I've been worried all along that he's going to be overdrafted,
but maybe that it could be even worse now because he is the Mets.
And I think it's fair to say, given the makeup of the Mets rotation now,
he is the Mets ace.
He is the Mets ace.
He is the best, or at least the best pitcher who is established,
Nolan McLean being the one I'm obliquely referencing there,
the best pitcher who's established on the Mets,
which would make Freddie Peralta their de facto ace.
But is he an ace for fantasy purposes?
No.
No.
So be careful not to inflate him.
If you can get him around 20th at SP,
great.
I'd do that too.
But you're likely to have to pay more for him than that based on his ADP.
I will say,
I think the landing spot's about as good as you could hope for
in getting away from a team with an elite defense
and coming off a 90s.
win season. The Mets probably aren't going to win 97 games. Although I don't think that they'll
have an elite defense either. I think the Mets are going to have a really good defense, actually.
I really, I think Boba Shett's going to be fine at third base. I think Simeon and Lindor is a great
middle infield. I think Luis Robert and Carson Benj are going to be a really, really good
outfield pairing. I think this defense should be, I would say top 10 in baseball. I really
like Bichette doesn't have a great arm.
I get that, but arm strength isn't everything.
If you can handle shortstop, I think you can handle third base.
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
We've always said that.
I don't think the Mets are going to win 97 games like the Brewers did last season.
So I don't think Freddie Peralta is going to win 17 games.
But I didn't think the Brer was going to win 97 games.
And I didn't think Freddie Peralta was going to win 17 games there either.
I think the Mets might be as good as the Brewers right now.
Like after this trade, I think if you put their wind totals up against each other,
I think it'd be close to a toss-up.
The Mets have had a really good off-season over the past week.
You've got to give them that.
You know, it started out pretty rough,
but they've done a very good job making up for a bad start,
and I think they're going to be better than they were last year.
I think the defense is going to be good.
and I think the landing spot's about as good as you could hope for.
All they needed to do was get denied or declined, I guess, by Kyle Tucker,
and then they just went nuclear after that because they brought in Boba Chet
and they traded for Luis Robert and now traded for Freddie Peralta as well.
I know this might sound to some, especially if you're a Mets fan and you're listening,
like we're kind of hating on Peralta or poo-pooing him.
He's a totally fine pitcher and he's like a solid SPT,
maybe even a high-end SB 2,
but the way he's being drafted so far this off-season,
his ADP in January is 69,
and that is the 15th starting pitcher off the board.
I think that is being artificially inflated
because he had 17 wins last year,
and he finished as a top 10 starting pitcher in fantasy.
But for all the reasons you guys mentioned,
you know, the left-on-base percentage was very high last year,
his babbit was low.
I mean, those are just kind of natural things
that regress over the course of time.
So I would expect, like,
a mid-3 ZRA and like a 1-15-ish whip and a bunch of strikeouts.
And again, that's like a high-end SP2.
It's just, I don't know that, you know, he should be like a top 70 pick or a top 15 starting
pitcher drafted.
So you know what I'm really bumping up against.
And I know this isn't the right way to think about it.
But you know his ADP was last year.
It's outside the top 100, right?
It was 112.
He's the, as Scott just said, he is the exact same guy he was in 2024.
four. So I just, he was way undervalued last year. I think he's a little bit overvalued this year.
I think like if he was going around 80 or 90, love it. Great, great pick. As your potential
ace in a 15 team league, he just does not have the volume or the elite ratios to justify it. He's a
good pitcher. He pitched over his head last year. And I pointed this out before, especially
especially if you're playing a head to head points leagues where you need volume and you need quality starts and you need to go six plus innings consistently.
Freddy Peralta did did that in just 13 of 33 starts last year and it's been a consistent thing throughout his career.
I mean, he gets a lot of these like five and a third inning starts.
Five innings starts.
He's just he's not as efficient as he needs to be to be like a full on ace for fantasy.
So keep that in mind when drafting him in a head to points league as well.
The updated Mets rotation by the way, Peralta up at the top.
Then you have Noel McLean, some combination of David Peterson, Clayholm, Sean Maniah,
Kodi, Senga.
My guess is Jonah Tong is on the outside looking in.
Towards the end of the season looked like he needed more seasoning in the minors.
So we'll see him at some point, but maybe they go with a six-man rotation,
or usually these things just figure themselves out.
But would you guys guess that it's like Kodi Senga also out right now with Sean Mania and Clay Holmes in?
I would guess one of them, if everybody stays healthy between now and opening day, which is a huge if for any team, not picking on any Mets pitchers.
It's just pitchers get hurt a lot.
I think we should assume someone's going to get hurt in spring training.
But presuming one doesn't, I would guess that they have Clay Holmes work out of the bullpen or maybe even Sean Minaya work out of the bullpen.
Entirely possible.
So we shall see, but that is the updated Mets rotation.
What about the return?
the Brewers get Jet Williams and Brandon Sprote.
Jet Williams, 22 years old, first round pick back in 2022.
Smaller dude, 5 foot 7, has put up big numbers in the minors so far.
Lots of OBP, some power, lots of speed.
Has mostly played shortstop in the minors, but also some second base and center field.
And then Sprote, a little bit older, 25 years old, second round pick back in 2023.
Had that huge 2024 season, but then got off to a very bad start last year.
and then pick things up in the second half of the minor league season.
So, Chris, I know you didn't like this return as much.
Can you see either of those players making an impact this season for the brewers?
Jet Williams or Brandon Sprope.
To clarify, the Brewers did fine.
They got two top 100 prospects for a guy who wasn't going to be there next year.
I think that's fine.
I don't specifically like Jet Williams or Brandon Sproop is what it comes down to for me.
I just, I'm not a believer in these specific types of.
players. Sproat it mostly just comes down to he's got a really bad fastball for a guy who throws
97 98 he had a 6% whiff rate with his sinker at the major league level last season and a 6%
with his four seamer these are very very small sample sizes but that those pitches didn't play well
in the minors either his change-up is reportedly pretty good he's got a full arsenal from
what I understand he has struggled with the right approach to take.
He has also struggled with like his in-game stamina,
keeping his velocity throughout the game.
So the prospect people I trust tend to not be as high on Brandon Sprote.
And that's been true before 2025 when he really struggled on the first half.
So I just, I think he's more of a back end type arm.
I don't really like he was talked about as like a potential high upside pitcher, but he's an old prospect.
I think he's a late rotation spot guy.
I don't think this is a difference maker.
And then Jet Williams, I mean, this might be unfair.
He gives real Cabin Bissio vibes where the minor league numbers are really good,
or at least they were last year.
I know he's struggling in 2024, but I worry he's on the passive side of the patience versus passive divide.
Um, his swing rate last year was only 43, 43%.
His zone swing rate was only 61%.
Um, he does not hit the ball very hard, but he does a really good job of pulling it in the air and maximizing the below average raw power that he does have.
But I just, I don't know.
That, that feels like it could get, um, get exposed really quickly.
Ironically, I think he's a lot like Caleb Durbin, actually.
And not just because they're both itty-bitty eyes.
I think their skill sets are very similar.
And, you know, Williams was a first round pick,
and maybe there's more upside than Caleb Durbin,
but I think that's the type of player I'm expecting Jet Williams to be.
So they are two flawed prospects,
and they're flawed in the way that I think is most unappealing
to the real analytical types.
Jeff Williams doesn't hit.
the ball very hard.
Brandon Sproat doesn't miss a lot of bats, or at least this past year he didn't miss a lot
of bats.
And I think it's fair to say he won't miss a lot of bats of the majors either, and maybe
never will be a big deal in fantasy.
But what Jet Williams and Brandon Sproe also have is, I think, a workaround for that deficiency.
Jet Williams case, it's pulling the ball in the air a lot to make up for that lack of
exit velocity, maybe too much as a matter of fact.
Like, I think he's a little too for a five foot seven guy.
He should probably accept life as a guy who hits a dozen homers.
And I think his overall outcomes would be better.
I think the batting average is going to be bad as a result of that, unless that changes.
Yeah, unless that changes.
Now, he probably, he hopefully would walk enough and steal enough bases to make up for it.
But, you know, I don't think he's a huge, I don't think he has a ton of upside for
fantasy.
And there is certainly a scenario where Jet Williams doesn't end up being a full-timer
in the majors.
He ends up being more of utility guy.
But he is a, I think the last three years has been a consensus top 100 guy.
And he's in my top 100, which was just released earlier this week.
Brandon Sprott also is.
He was 93rd for me, so he's barely hanging on.
And, you know, you get to that point in the...
top 100 and it's like 40 different guys could go there so i very easily could have left brandon sproat out of my top
100 ultimately he was in because of the immediacy because he's very likely to make a contribution right now
so i give those guys an edge especially in a fantasy geared list like mine the thing he does to
overcome his deficiency you're right the fastball is terrible and i think it got exposed even before he got to
the majors. Remember, as great as he was in 2024, it collapsed once he got to triple. He was terrible in
the first half. And then he started out this past year, terrible at AAA as well. But he did
make a change. Final 11 starts. I don't know exactly when he began emphasizing the Sinkermore,
but he started moving away from that not very good for Seamer and emphasizing a Sinker more like
we saw from Edward Cabrera. And who was the other guy who did that? There was some other guy
we talked about recently who did that too.
Just as a way of,
it just works better with his arsenal.
And he's, I know in Edward Cabrera's case,
he was able to throw it for strikes more.
Gavin Williams, Gavin Williams is the other one who was doing that.
So Sprote started doing it too, more sinkers.
Final 11 starts at AAA, 244 ERA.93 whip, 10.7K per nine,
gets to the majors.
And what he had in common in both the major,
and the minors, this is Brandon Sprote we're talking about, is, so in the majors, his short time in the majors,
48% ground ball rate. Very good. At AAA, it was 53%. Awesome. His average exit velocity in both the majors
and the miners was below 88 miles per hour. So weak grounders, Brandon Sprope, has a track record of
getting those. And that is
a great trait to have as a
pitcher. Now,
is it going to make him a fantasy star if he doesn't have a way
of missing bats? No, but I think
actually I could see Brandon
Sprote having an outcome of another
former prospect that other organizations
gave up on and then the Brewers seem to fix
them with just Quinn Priester.
Mr. Quim Priester was not a fantasy stud
last year, but very useful. I think in a
similar way that Sproke could be useful. The Brewer's no pitching about as well as any organization,
and they were willing to take a shot on this guy. So I'm keeping an open mind. I don't think
Brandon Sprope should be drafted in most leagues next year. And I don't think he has a huge
ceiling in fantasy. But would it surprise me if he's somebody were picking up and streaming
and finding out he's worth holding on to once we start streaming him this upcoming year? I think
that's definitely a plausible scenario. The Brewers updated rotation, by the way, without Peralta.
Ziarowski, Quinn Priester, Chad Patrick, and my guess is it would be Logan Henderson, but Henderson
dealt with either an elbow or a flexer late last year, and Woodruff obviously has a lengthy
injury history as well. So if anything happens to those guys between now and the start of the
season, then maybe Sprout has an opportunity very early on this year. And which at Williams,
I'll just point out, he's played 34 games at AAA. He probably starts in the minors once again,
but if he gets off to a good start, it's like Jake Bowers in left field right now.
So they could easily kind of shuffle things around and get Jet Williams up
if he gets off to a nice start in the minors as well.
The other big news of the day, Cody Bellinger re-signed with the Yankees on a five-year deal.
A couple opt-outs in there as well.
Chris and I did an emergency podcast for that.
So be sure to check that out if you want to hear more about Cody Bellinger.
And I'm pretty sure we said the Yankees might trade Jason Dominguez for Freddie Peralta.
That is not true anymore.
That will not be happening.
So let's take our first break.
When we return, we'll get into second base tiers.
We'll do that right after this.
Welcome back in fantasy baseball today.
Let's get into Scott's second base tiers for 2026.
And we will begin with the elite.
Only two names in this tier.
That includes Jazz Chisholm, who has second and third base eligibility and Ketel Marte.
So if you look at NFBC ADP in January, Jazz is going at Pick 21.
and Marte at 33.
So these are mostly roto drafts.
Still, Marte at 33 seems a little bit low.
I think we all have him consensus.
Roto rankings 25 for Marte and 22 for Jazz.
If you look at our consensus head to points rankings,
that is flipped.
Marte at 20, Jazz at 23,
and Marte is just awesome in that format.
He should be a mid-second rounder in a points league,
3.5 fantasy points per game last season.
But Scott, I think both should probably be second rounders regardless of format,
but Marte definitely in a points league.
Yeah, I have them as an early third rounder in Roto Marte, but close enough.
I mean, Jazz Ches of late second rounder, could tell Marte early third rounder.
I think maybe by NFBC standards, you could make the case that it's more urgent to fill the stolen base category early
because those are 15 teamers.
So maybe that helps to explain the gap between the two there.
But I think on most platforms and most league sizes,
Chisholm and Marte are going to go pretty close together.
You know, Chisholm has the added advantage of also being third base eligible,
which is also a nice thing to have,
particularly the deeper your league is.
So, you know, that's the advantages to him.
But the advantages to Marte, no, he's going to have a much better batting average, probably 30 points better.
And how many steals is that worth to you?
Opinions will vary.
But I think they come out as being pretty close in value even in a 5 by 5 context.
All right, let's get into the near elite tier and just one name here.
Bryce Terang, he is on an island.
The ADP supports this as well.
After Cotel Marte, we have.
a 23 pick drop down to Terang who is at 56 and then there's a 40 pick drop after Tarang down to
Nico Horner so again he's just kind of like this island of second base ADP and second base
tiers tarang represents an interesting skill set at a not so interesting position a big jump
in power last year the steals also came down but Chris I think there's a real chance that
not that he's just going to blend the skills and just become like a 2050 guy but
But I think there's a good chance Terang is like a 20-20 bat next year.
And if the steals come back a little bit, he could be a 2030 bat.
I think that is decently realistic for Bryce Terang.
I'm really struggling with the Bryce Terang power questions still.
I know we talked a ton about it in the second half of last season as it was happening.
I just don't know what to make of this.
All right.
two one one one ten two home runs by month for gilmonds for uh brice terrain the underlying stats back up
uh he was i think the biggest bat speed gainer in baseball last year he went from a 66.2 mile
per hour average swing speed to a 70.7 mile per hour um we had matthew true blood on the team preview on
beat on it's I think it was earlier today right he was in your podcast feed perfect timing
freddie pralter just got traded yeah uh at least we got it out before right um and we kind of
assumed yeah it was going to happen I think that's how we approached it his sleep burn breakout
were two pitchers who will get an opportunity but you know he he talked a lot about the
the way Bryce terrain changed his approach to to hit for more power and the underlying numbers
back it up right he took this big step in quality of contact
87.0 mile per hour average, hex velocity in 2024, 91.1 in 2025. He up the launch angle.
And for about a month, he upped the pulled air rate. But for the season as a whole, it was actually lower.
And in September in particular, I think it collapsed as well. So we have this. It was basically the same as in 2024, the pole air rate, which is to say very low. It was very low in both years.
So, but in in August, I think it was like 15 or 20.
20%.
So we have one month in Bryce Terrang's MLB career, which now stretches, what, 400, 500 games?
We have one month where he's hit for power, like any power at all.
I have no idea what to do with that.
My gut instinct is to fade it and to say it was a fluke, but he did it.
And the skills are there.
Yeah.
If we were only looking at home runs, I'd be inclined to agree with you.
But the four mile per hour average exit velocity increase, that was there from the beginning.
I mean, even before August happened.
No, I noticed his bat speed was way up in me, like a week into the season.
I remember noticing that.
I wrote an article of like things that might matter after the first week.
And I'm pretty sure Bryce Terang's bat speed was one of them.
Yeah.
Even before August happened, we were talking, man, if this guy could just start pulling it in the air a little bit.
Because this pull air rate is terrible.
Like I said, just a little bit.
then there might be real power here.
And he did for one month.
Maybe he'll never do it again.
But I think the more difficult hurdle to clear is just how hard you impact the ball.
And he like a four mile per hour increase from one year to the next is insane.
Like I don't know who will remember.
But to me, Bryce Durang was one of the clearest busts going into last year.
That was coming off the 50 steel season.
But that's really all he did.
And his batted ball dad, it was so bad.
It just seemed like, man, this guy, he'll be lucky to hit 254 again.
He became a much, much better hitter in terms of like actual ability.
Yeah.
How able he is as a hitter.
that he's closer to being the 50 steel guy
he was two years ago versus the 24
steel guy last year and it's 88th percentile
sprint speed. So,
yeah, I think he'll be closer
to the higher end than of that
dramatic steals range.
And if that's the case
and you could trust him to be
at least pretty good in batting
average because he is a much better
hitter now, then how
much power do you really need to
deliver at the cost?
The ball case
for him is we don't know what it's going to look like but he's probably going to be good
whether it's he takes a step back with the power but runs more still hits for a good batting
average or he does it all right like it's possible that he hits 285 next year with let's say 15
homers and steals 40 bases and you're talking about a top 20 player in fantasy yeah i think that's
it's more likely that he's a top five second baseman than not.
Even if I'm not sure exactly what kind of top five second baseman, Bryce Terrang, will be.
The downside case to me seems to be close to Nico Horner.
Does that seem to?
Yeah. The upside case would be kind of like Jose Altuvae, not like MVP level of Jose Altuve, but Jose Altuvae for most of his career.
I think the one thing is just we've seen.
the batting average downside for Bryce Terang.
Yeah.
We've never seen that from Nico Horner.
We've never seen a season where Nico Horner hit 254.
And it's worth noting, Bryce String hit 218 as a rookie, 254 is a second year player.
When he was hitting the ball much.
Oh, yeah, no, no.
It's just we never know how these things are going to work out.
Yeah.
I'm inclined to agree that I have him ranked about 10 spots ahead of his ADP.
So I'm buying it.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I am too.
I think the ADP is actually a little low.
Yes, but I just want to present the case just because I'm struggling with how to analyze a player like this.
Especially at a weak position, too.
It's just there are not a lot of interesting second baseman.
Let's get into the next best things tier that includes Jose Altuve, Niko Horner, and Luke Kishel.
Kishel, by the way, one tier lower in Roto slash categories.
The ADP for these three Horner at 99, Jose Altuvae at 113.
and Keishel is down at 139.
Scott, should Keishel really be one tier lower in Roto?
That's the question I have here.
I feel like if he works out for fantasy,
it's probably good batting average, run scored,
and a lot of steals, right?
That feels like it would be good for Roto, I think.
I mean, we had the conversation a couple weeks ago,
and, you know, we're stressing at this point,
these tiers that we're sharing,
they're not like the consensus tiers.
These are my tiers,
so they're based off my rankings,
and I'm probably a little lower on Luke Kishel
than both of you, I think, especially Chris.
I think Luke Kishel's,
there's a good chance he's like Nico Horner.
There is a certain percentage chance
if he can get his pull air rate close to where it was in the minors.
There's a certain percentage chance he's better than Nico Horner.
I mean, he could wind up doing something like Terrain just did last year.
He could, yeah, he could.
But he's very unproved.
been the exit velocities aren't very good.
Home run output as a rookie was not very good.
He stole a lot of bases.
I just want to see more.
I think Luke Kishel has enough downsides.
I mean, contact quality is a pretty big, pretty big hurdle to clear.
To Rang did it, but he improved his contact quality,
and I don't know that you would expect many players to do that.
There's a big hurdle to clear.
Luke Kishel comes up short there.
Maybe he'll be Nico Horner, but I think given the uncertainty, the lack of provenness,
a one-tier discount in Roto is appropriate.
I think it's more in line with my comfort level.
Now, head-dive points is a different story because one of the areas Keishel excels is
is plate discipline specifically drawing a lot of walks.
So I think it's fair to say he's already a quality starter for you in that format.
But I think we don't really know how he stacks up in the five-by-five categories yet.
And I will just point out again, I feel like I'm kind of beating a dead horse here,
but we are three tiers into second base and we've only mentioned six names.
So again, there's not a lot of high-end talent at this position.
Should mention, I was just going to mention with Hotel Tuve that he's getting
up there in age, he's turning 36 in May.
He still has been fine, 86th overall in Roto last year, 2.8 fantasy points per game.
I think he's still given the benefit of the doubt, and he's, you know, he's going like
20 to 30 picks behind where he actually finished last year.
So still an okay price tag, I would say.
But go ahead, Chris.
There is some real bottom out potential for Jose Al-Tube.
He's ringing blood from a stone.
Is that the, is that, that's a thing people say?
Well, we'll pretend that applies here.
I've never heard anybody say that.
Sounds like a video game or something.
Um, all right.
Well, now I'm, now I'm in my head.
Maybe you just travel in different circles than me.
We're,
I hang out with an 11 year old and an eight year old.
They said, like six,
seven stuff all day.
Yeah, exactly.
But basically what I'm trying to say is he's gotten the most out of what has
become a fairly limited skill set, right?
Like he used to routinely put up ex-wobas in the 340 to 350 range
that would translate into 370, 390 actual woevas
when he was one of the best hitters in baseball.
Now it's the last two seasons 319 X-OBA 300-X Woba.
And yeah, you still give him a little bump on that,
but it was a 331 Woba last season.
It just does feel like there's some Marcus Simeon potential here
where like the composite skill set doesn't change that much,
but you just, you rely on a lot of little edges.
that get harder to create when you're 35, 36 years old.
I say this on the verge of turning 38 myself.
So Jose, I can, I feel you.
But I just, I think there's a chance the bottom falls out.
The way it did for Marcus Simi in the last couple of years,
they're very similar players in a lot of ways.
And then with Luke Kichel, we, it was like last week, I think.
Yep.
We had the Luke Kichel conversation.
I don't want to get back into it.
But I think he's a 40 steel guy,
based on the way they let him run last season, both in the majors and the minors.
And one thing I didn't say last week that I should have is he was like six months removed from Tommy John surgery at the start of last season.
That probably didn't help.
Where was he at the end of last season?
He has had a lot of trouble staying.
He has had a lot of trouble staying healthy.
That is the one thing.
It feels a little Matt McLean-e, except Matt McLean was going like 50th last year and Luke Heschel's going a hundred.
130th. So it's much less risk. How would you tear these guys? I have Altuve, Horner, and
Kishel. Well, I guess I have Altuve and Horner one tier head of Kishel for five by five, but all three
in the same for points. So the problem is I have about a 14 pick difference between Kishel is my number
four and Nika Horner is my number five. And then I have one spot between Horner and Altuve and
Altuvae. And then I have 15 spots between Altuve and Jackson Holiday. So it's like, is Kishel in his
own tier or is holiday in this tier.
I also want to say, I don't feel good about where I have Jackson Holiday ranked at all.
That is one of the least confident rankings I have on the board.
So lower him.
My gut says I should lower him.
Yes, I have much lower than consensus.
And then Ozzy Albies I also have at 127.
So if you do lower Jackson Holiday, it's easy to say.
It's a kind of a bigger tier.
Well, it's kind of a bigger tier for me.
I guess I would go Keishel Horner, Altuve, Holiday, and Albu.
but I don't have a strong conviction on holiday and Albys.
Because I thought I was the high guy on Albies and I am tiering him lower.
But it was a debate.
Let's get into the next tier that includes Albies.
I do just want to make Chris feel better about not being crazy.
Ring blood from a stone refers to the idiom, get blood from a stone,
meaning to try and get something from someone who is unwilling or unable to provide it,
making the task nearly impossible or extremely difficult like trying to extract blood from a light.
lifeless rock. So I guess it doesn't, it didn't really work the way I used it, but we'll pretend it did.
Yeah, I tried. I got you back. So it was a, this is classic Chris Tower stuff, right?
Like just say something to try to sound smart, but don't actually know what it means. That's,
that's, that's me all over. That's why you don't, you shouldn't even try to be smart, Chris,
and that's exactly what I do. It's just like, you know, just say random things.
randomly let's talk about the fallback options tier brandon lao
azi albiz and glaber torres
is one tier lower in rhodo in category leagues
uh why is he lower well he isn't run and uh but he does have great play
discipline and that is very good for head to head points leagues last season average
two point eight fantasy points per game that was the same as hose al tuve and that was
glaber torres i was just talking about yeah and go ahead he is much much much lower in
Roto. So it, it, the way I display the tiers to avoid having completely separate tier lists for the
two predominant scoring formats, I put them in the same thing. And then I put these little footnotes to say
if they move up or down in different formats. So it just looks wrong having Glaber Torres is named
there with Brandon Lowe and Ozzy Albies because he's so much lower in Roto. But that that,
that plate discipline last year was phenomenal. You mentioned the points per game. I think it's fair
in points leagues to have them with those two guys.
I don't think he's a starter in a Roto League.
No, he's more like a middle guy, middle infielder.
Yeah, that's totally fine.
And the ADP reflects that too.
Brandon Lowe at 169, Ozzy Albi's at 162.
Torres is down at 244.
Most NFBC drafts are Roto leagues.
And so that's why he's going much later than the other two names here.
Lau feels disrespected once again, but he doesn't run.
And I feel like a lot of people want their second baseman in fantasy to run.
So it's, I get that it's kind of like a, a.
weird, like, position thing for him.
And then Albies, we just have the uncertainty.
I mean, he finished strong, but then he suffered that broken hamate bone to the same hand
slash wrist that he's had issues with the past couple of years.
So it just kind of raises uncertainty.
But back to what you guys were just talking about, I agree with Chris.
I would have Albies in the previous tier, like this kind of one bigger tier that has
Albies and Altuve and Horner and Keishel and maybe I would throw a holiday in there or maybe
be in this tier, but I still have, I think, a good amount of faith in Ozzy Albies.
And I think, if I'm remembering correctly, we did some preliminary rankings discussions
on the pod before Albi's injury. And I want to say I had him fifth at the time.
Yeah, I think I did. And he suffered the hamate injury. And it's just kind of, that's less serious
than the wrist injury that he suffered. But because it took him until July of last year to be fully
recovered from the wrist injury and then he suffers this other injury. It's just, I don't know.
I don't, I genuinely don't know. Second base is, I think, a really hard position. Because I can see
getting to the end of this season and being like, oh, second base is actually pretty cool. But it's a lot
of guess work right now. Yeah. I am high on all these relative to the consensus. I guess it sounds like we
all are. So. Paul see there for a second, Scott. All three of
us have Albies between 123 and 128 in our overall rankings. And his ADP is 162. So we're all
pretty much in agreement. That's so funny. I kind of want to put him in the same tier as those
others. I do think there is a there is a different like confidence score for the two of them.
How confident I am in Albies versus Nico Horner. And you know, part of it is I know I could get
Albi so much later. Is that how to design tiers or should you build in the opportunity to wait?
But I put, well, you know, the risk to that is, okay, Altuvei Horn or Kishel, they go within a one round span.
Let's say, oh, I better not let this tier deplete. I got to go for Albies now. And you end up taking them, you know, 40 picks earlier than you could have if you do that.
So it's, I guess, kind of the downside to tearing positions is maybe sometimes it overstates how defined these drop-offs are.
I think if we're assessing Albi's by his upside, then certainly he compares to Jose Altuve or Nico Horner.
But if we're factoring in downside risk, if we're factoring in just how fearful the fantasy drafters on the whole seem to be about taking him.
then I think he belongs in a lower tier.
And by the way, this tier is so small.
It's really for Roto leagues, it's just him and Brandon Lowe, right?
So I think, and like, I think Lowe's being undervalued too.
You mentioned it.
You know, he's, other than Chisholm and Catell Marte,
he's the only third baseman who you might project 30 homers for Brandon Lowe.
So I think he's being undervalued.
I think he's a fine choice here.
Like, to me, it's like, okay, as soon as you,
you see Brandon Lau or Ozzy Albis go, you take the other.
And I prefer to have Albis than Lau, I think.
But ultimately, not that much.
So they belong in the same tier.
Let's get into the last resorts tier.
That includes Jorge Polanco, Xavier Edwards, Jackson Holiday,
Marcus Semyon, Brendan Donovan, Seidon, Rafael, Matt McLean, and Bryson Stott.
So big old meaty tier here.
Lots of names in this one.
The ADP on this group ranges from
Raphaela at 123
down to Brendan Donovan at 293.
Donovan is one tier lower in a
rhodo or categories league. So if you
just look at Marcus Semyon, it would end at
249. So from about
125 to 250 is the range
for this group. And that is a massive range.
Draftors so far, much higher on
Raphaela and Jackson Holiday.
Scott, did you consider
putting either of those two in
the previous tier? The
fallback options here. Because I'm not.
I'm not much higher on them.
Yep.
I, you know, these are your tiers.
They're listed
within the tiers in the
order I rank them. And I have Jorge
Palanco and Xavier Edwards both ahead of Jackson
Holiday. I have Marcus
Simeon ahead of Sadean-Raphael.
I actually like
Simeon as a sleeper this year. I think
you know, you look at the
park upgrade, it's going
to the Mets, City Field.
That for him specifically, the way his
the way the ball comes off his bat.
It is a significant park upgrade.
And I think he was on track to pay him pretty good last year too
and just had that broken foot happen at the worst possible time.
So I'm not going to draft Jackson Holiday, it feels like,
but I would be just as happy taking Marcus Simeon.
I think the chance, I think the realistic upside for both is similar.
And I'm not sure the downside.
side is that dissimilar. I don't think Jackson
Holiday was that good last year. Oh, he wasn't.
I've been struggling with Jackson Holiday because
I rank him pretty close to ADP.
And I don't feel super comfortable about that.
I wish I had something
to point to besides, well,
look how young he is to make my case for
Jackson Holiday. Right. It's
just that he
made it to the majors as a 20 year old, right?
and then he held his own as a 21 year.
As a former number one overall pick
and the son of a multi-time All-Star.
He did improve a lot year over year.
He got a lot better.
He still wasn't good.
Right.
Like he was a below average major league hitter last season
with pretty much across the board below average metrics.
It's just this is historically the type of hitter you bet on.
Like you get to the majors that young,
you hold your own that young,
you're probably going to be good.
It's a lot like Yuri Perez.
It's just does it happen in 2026?
Does it happen in 2028?
It's a little different from Yuri Perez because Yuri Perez has been dominant.
Right.
Yuri Perez has flashed the actual skills.
His IRA was over four last year.
He has some flaws.
But yes, that's a good point.
But it's just.
I want to see it from holiday.
I think that's totally fair.
It's been most of two years.
I mean, he was up out of spring training.
two years ago, right?
And then he got sent back down
because he was doing so poorly.
I think he got sent down.
I think he got sent down after a couple weeks.
At the end of spring training.
Like he didn't make the team.
And then I think he was up later on,
but then struggling.
Yeah, he was up pretty early.
Yeah.
It didn't work out.
Got sent back down.
Came up.
Had a little bit of a power surge,
but ultimately wasn't very good.
And then last year he was, you know,
he was good.
Like if you think Xander Bogart's,
the current version of Zander Bogart's good,
then fine.
Jackson Holiday was good.
I think for fantasy purposes, we don't view
Prokarts is that good anymore.
Maybe Holiday, you know, maybe, yeah,
maybe next year will be the year.
But what I'm saying is
why I was making the Marcus Semy in comparison,
if you want to put Ozzy Albis,
I put Ozzy Albys in a higher tier, obviously,
but, you know, same sort of thing.
There are enough upside cases
in this range of the second base rankings
that I don't see a reason to single out holiday
as I mean of the three he's the one who's never done it before right yeah yeah um so I have a couple
of other thoughts on this tier that I want to get to um one or uh horre polanco he could drive in
110 runs this year like if he just stays healthy and has a normal horrid polanco season
I know staying healthy and being consistent has been an issue for him over the year
but the top of that lineup.
I mean, he's going to be hitting probably cleanup behind Francisco Indore,
Juan Soto, and Boba Chet.
It's pretty good.
That's a really awesome place to be.
So that's one where if you get to that point in your draft and you find that the RBI totals
on your team are lacking, well, Jorge Polanco, even in the month of January,
his ADP is outside of the top 200.
Yeah.
So I think he's,
He's a great target.
I think he's a great value.
He's being undervalued.
I mean, again, other reasons why you don't really have to say that, well, I got to find
upside somewhere at second base argument for Jackson Holiday because it's there.
There is upside.
The other thing I wanted to say is I do not understand the Sedan Rafael price.
I just like he's being drafted right around 120 in ADP.
he finished right around 120 overall last season.
If you actually had Sedan Rafael on your team,
I do not think you actually thought he was one of the 120 best players in fantasy.
He was terrible in April.
He was not very good in May.
He was awesome in June, awesome in July,
and he was unplayable in August and September.
Months are arbitrary endpoints, to be clear.
But for the majority of last season,
Saddam Rafael was not good.
As a hitter,
the underlying metrics are terrible.
He might be the only player with worse play discipline
than Pete Carr Armstrong among fantasy relevant players.
And it's not like he's a 35 steel guy like Peter Armstrong.
He's still 20 bases last year.
He's going to be in the lineup a ton.
He is like Pete Car Armstrong,
one of the very best center fielders in baseball.
I think Saddam Rafael is a fringy fantasy bat.
Like, I look at him and I look at Otto Lopez.
I don't really think Saddam Rafael is a better fantasy player than Otto Lopez.
I think there's a little bit more juice with someone,
somebody like Raphaela, I think having the dual position eligibility
kind of props him up a little bit to second base in outfield.
I'm happy you mention the name P.
Peaker Armstrong a bunch there because I think it's kind of a similar case.
I think they're both super shrieky players.
Bad plate discipline is probably a big reason for that.
But I kind of look at Raphael as kind of this freaky athlete too.
He's super fast.
Would not surprise me one bit if the steals jump up this year.
And maybe instead of him, you know, being that super shrieky player that has like two or three bad months,
maybe it's just like one or two bad months.
And then it's four great months.
That wouldn't surprise me at 25 years old if he just gets a little bit better.
So, but that's the same kind of argument, I guess, for Holiday.
It's like, you're kind of paying for the player to get better.
Like, yes, it would be fine if he just finished where he's drafted,
but of course you always want to profit.
So you're kind of baking in, hoping that Raphael gets better this season.
And I think it's possible at his age, 25 years old.
To be fair, Holiday was a much better prospect and a much more productive player
at the minor league level.
For sure.
Yes, totally get that.
The Leftover's Tier has 19 names here.
I'm not going to read them off.
Honestly, not even going to give you.
you're an opportunity to talk about them because we got to talk about shortstop. So I'm going to
take our final break and we'll get to short stops right after this. Welcome back in fantasy baseball
today. We're about to get into shortstop tiers as well. I actually did see a few comments on
yesterday's video asking where can I see these tiers. I know that we don't have like graphics on the
screen. I wish we had the wherewithal and like the manpower to get that done. Yes, it would make the show
better, but we just we just don't have enough hands on deck to do that. These will all be an article
form at some point. I think probably within the next week or two for you, Scott. So if people
actually want to see the tiers themselves, they will be on the website at some point. CBSports
com. They will be next week. They will be next week. Normally they come out before we record these
or at the same time as recording these. I'm just a little behind. It's a lot going on in my life
right now. None of it bad, but yeah, I'm a little behind. Yeah, I get it. I'm not blaming
you, Scott. I'm just like people are asking to see them. And so I just wanted to let
them know that those articles will be coming at some point.
Let's get into shortstop tiers.
Very different vibe than second base.
We have a first rounders tier.
Shortstop is amazing, obviously.
Bobby Witt Jr., Ellie De La Cruz, and Francisco Lindor.
Ellie is one tier lower and head dead points, which makes sense.
His value is tied to big stolen bases and his plate discipline.
While it has improved, it's still lacking compared to other first round hitters.
The NFBC ADP in January for this group, Witt is right at 3.
Ellie is right around 9
and Lindor is at 16
Our consensus roto rankings
We have Witt at 3, Ellie at 10
And Lindor at 14
So Scott I know technically
Lindor is not a first round pick
But I view him as a player
That should go at the 1-2 turn
I mean he's
I think he's a first round pick for me
Our consensus is 14
So it's like right there at the turn
He's right there
He's right there you know
If you took him 12th
I certainly wouldn't bat an eye at it.
I might do it myself in some draft down the line.
So, yeah, I think he deserves to be tiered with.
You know, I guess the best way to think about it is if Lindor is there and one of the elite at another position is.
So Lador in the first rounders tier, let's say Cal Raleigh, the elite at catcher is there.
you're going to take? Well, you got the tiers say you got to take Lindor, and I think you absolutely
should take Lindor. I don't think there's any debate there. Yeah. So that's part of the reason why
is he, because I know the next tier is Gunner Henderson. Okay, does Lindor really deserve to be
tiered separately from Gunner Henderson? Well, I can think about taking Cal Raleigh rather than
Gunner Henderson, but I would not consider it in place of Francisco Lindor. I agree with that,
too. I mean, Lindor has been so consistent. The track record is just,
There's much more of a track record for him than Gunner Henderson.
Lindorres finished as a top 12 overall player in Roto four years in a row.
Each season between 8 and 12, it's just crazy consistency.
And his 3.6 fantasy points per game, he's great in points leagues as well.
The elite tier, Gunner Henderson, Trey Turner, Mookie Betts, and Geraldo Pardomo.
Betts and Pardomo both one tier lower in Roto and Category Leagues.
Despite Betts taking a step back last year, still 3.1 fantasy points per game.
and Perdomo, he was a stud regardless of format, but the way that he hits, his plate discipline is really good, the strikeout rate is very low.
It's a skill set that should excel in a points league in particular, maybe if some of the other numbers take a step back this year.
The ADP for this group, Gunner is at 15.2, Trey Turner at 27. Betts is at 55 and Perdomo is at 76.
So it's a little bit all over the place.
Yeah, well, I mean, worth noting the ADP is roto ADP.
Right, right.
But Zipurdoma wouldn't be in this tier for Roto.
So, yes, it's really just Gunner Henderson and Trey Turner we're looking at for Roto.
And to me, they're both, they're both second rounders.
I think Trey Turner is being under drafted.
One thing I want to point out with Mookie Betts is in Kyle Tucker's introductory press conference,
which I think was yesterday, uh, Tuesday.
Dave Roberts said he's going to hit either second or third.
You started the math.
And it's like, where's Mookie going to hit?
It might be second.
I would assume
Would you go lefty, lefty, lefty?
That seems to Dave Roberts doesn't seem to like doing that.
I don't think anybody likes to do it.
But if it's
If Tucker's third, then Betts can be second and Freeman
could just be four.
But if Tucker's second.
I mean, Tucker cleanup makes the most sense.
I wonder if Dave Roberts is going to go back on that.
I just wonder, like, I just worry,
does Mookie drop in the lineup and lose a little bit of his playing time edge.
He's going to be somewhere in the top four regardless, right?
He has to me, I imagine.
But dropping from predominantly second to predominantly fourth would cost about 6% of his plate appearances over the course of the season.
And at this point, his career, I think that genuinely matters because he's not necessarily a per plate appearance impact guy.
It's just he's good and he's in a phenomenal offense in a great spot.
So that's just the one thing to keep in mind with Mookie.
And then I do want to just circle back to Ellie Dela Cruz for a second.
It's the quad.
I think the quad is why he was so bad in the second half.
I really like he stopped running his he was having a breakout season as a bat.
He had cut the strike rate to like 25% in the first half.
I have L.
Dela Cruz as a top seven player.
I'm tiered him as high as I possibly good.
No, no.
I'm not I'm not saying you're wrong.
I just I'm a little high.
I'm a couple spots higher than the.
consensus on L.A. Dela Cruz. And I want to make that case for him because I've never been
higher on L.A. De La Cruz than the consensus until now. While we are mentioning injuries, we should
mention with Gunner Henderson that he started last season with an intercostal strain. And then we
just learned recently that he played through most of the season with a shoulder impingement. So
definitely explains why he had a down season. I am expecting not 2024 levels, but somewhere in
between.
270 plus batting average.
And I think 25, 25 is like a fair expectation for Gunner Henderson.
To me, that is a probably early second round pick in fantasy, regardless of format for
Gunner Henderson.
The near elite tier, and this is a unique one because there are two names here, but it's
really a tier of one depending on the format.
So in Roto and category leagues, it's just Zach Netto.
And in Head Dead Points Leagues, it's just Corey Seeger.
It's Corey Seeger.
Uh, wait a second.
Seeger points, Neto and Rojo.
In Rodo, it's Netto Betts Perdomo.
Oh, correct. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. And points, it would just be Seeger.
Yeah. Yeah. That's right.
So it is definitely unique in that way, depending on the format things.
Has the most format discrepancies, at least of any of the infield positions.
I would say of any position overall relative to the number of names there.
So it's, I'm sorry, there's going to be a painful list because of that.
But just try your best.
We'll try our best.
The ADP for Netto, by the way, in January, 30.2, that is much closer to the elite tier.
23 homers, 30 steals in 2024.
He followed that up by going 2626 last year in just 128 games.
Could very easily be a 30-30 bat here in 2026.
Scott, why is Zach Netto not in the elite tier?
Because look at all the other numbers.
They're just not that impressive.
He was really impressive in two categories last year,
but not in any of the others, obviously isn't part of an especially good lineup,
doesn't walk a lot to score a lot of runs himself.
And I think it's more likely he regresses in the areas where he excelled
than that he improves in the areas where he didn't.
So Zach Meadow is great,
but I think people who are saying he's just as good as Trey Turner,
or saying that by the way they draft them anyway.
I think they're given Netto a little too much credit
and Trey Turner not enough credit.
Yeah, Turner right at 27 and Netto at 30s.
So, I mean, that is a real decision that people are making right now.
Do I take Trey Turner or do I take Zach Netto?
Fairly is a call with Turner for me.
Yeah, I think you guys agree.
The track record, too.
I mean, I have Netto, I think, as like a mid to late third rounder,
but I think I have Turner as like a solid back-in second-round pick.
So I think that's a pretty easy call for me as well.
Let's get into the next best things tier.
That includes C.J. Abrams, Bobauchette, Jeremy Payne, and Trevor Story.
Story one tier lower in head-to-head points leagues.
He's got power and speed.
We know that.
Also lots of strikeout.
So that's what brings him down in the head-to-head points format.
The ADP for this group, Abrams is at 55, Boba-Bichette at 102,
Jeremy Payne at 93, story at 104.
So one of these things not like the other, Scott.
Did you at all think about CJ Abrams being one tier higher than this?
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I think what you see is what you get with CJ Abrams at this point.
But I want it to not be.
I want it to not be.
Yeah.
And if you just look at the first halves the last two years,
there's like, oh, CJ Abrams could be so much more.
He could be like a fourth round type player.
But, you know, it's really the last three years.
His numbers are almost identical.
He had actually a bunch more steals in 2023,
but if you're just as a hitter,
if you're just looking at the hitting stats for C.J. Abrams,
kind of has been the exact same player three straight years,
even though for certain halves of those seasons,
he looked like he was breaking through with something more.
And so if he's the 250 hitting,
20 homer 30 steel guy he's consistently been. I don't think that's as good as Zach Nettto.
And so I think he needs to be in a lower tier.
The one thing I if I seem a little out of it or my voice sounds a little scratchy,
this is the fifth podcast I'm recording today, by the way.
And I was on the the Cards and Categories podcast on Rasball earlier.
And we were talking about the NL East.
And one thing that I brought up about the nationals in particular is it's worth keeping a mind.
They cleared house this offseason.
They got rid of like everyone in the front office basically and everyone in the coaching staff and hired a bunch of millennials.
I think they're all younger than me, which is scary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it.
Millennium.
There's going to be a lot of like MGMT on the playlist in the Nationals Clubhouse.
That's a joke for you elder millennials.
But I point that out just to say one, it's a great joke.
And two.
I derailed myself with that.
dumb joke. I'm sorry. And two, it's possible that the nationals are just much better from a
process standpoint in 2026. And all these dudes, James Wood, C.J. Abrams, Mackenzie Gore,
Dylan Cruz, all these guys who have been kind of disappointing, or in Dylan Cruz case,
extremely disappointing, but have flashed real tools. And it's like, man, I wish these guys
would figure out how to put their tools into play more consistently and not have these huge peaks.
and low valleys, maybe having a bunch of kids who know how to use computers will help them.
I'm being flippant, but like...
You ain't using computers for more than Oregon Trail?
Yeah.
You know, like, well, you know, it's like...
The older millennials will love that one, too.
These, you know, well, because it's like millennials are the only people who actually know how to use computers.
Everyone else is like tablets.
Yeah, that's a good point.
And so it's like, yeah, uh, we're getting a lot of niche millennial humor on this show.
50, 500 days of summer.
Great movie.
Anyway, it's just to say that the Nationals approach,
it's great.
The Nationals approach could be much better
and much more conducive to ringing the kind of edges
that they've been missing out of these super talented players.
It's like, man, I will never forget.
I mean, I might forget at some point,
but CJ Abrams last year, like hit one into the,
into McCovey Cove early on in like April.
And it was like,
that is crazy impressive for like a 510 shortstop to do in April.
And it's one of those things where like, man, his max at EV was like 113 last year.
If he could just consistently do that, you can see a 2540 outcome for CJ Abrams.
He just has to do it for a whole season.
And I'm hoping the nationals can just be a little more efficient.
You can see it.
But you agree that at this point after three years of baseball.
basically the exact same production.
Like it's 100% agreed, yes.
Yeah.
You should not,
you should not draft or rank C.J. Abrams as if that's going to happen.
It would be a nice thing if it did.
Back to the technology conversation.
I feel like I'm weird in this way,
but anything that I could do on both a computer and my phone,
I would much rather do on the computer.
Is that weird?
Oh,
a thousand percent.
It depends.
There's this thing where like,
apparently like Gen Zers like buy plane tickets and like big purchases
with their like phones.
And like, no, if I'm spending like real money, it's on the computer.
That's a computer.
That's a job for the computer.
Yeah.
Because I need, you know what it is?
I can't be trusted to have just like the thing that scans my face to spend money.
That is not a big enough barrier.
I will make a lot of dumb decisions if all I have to do is just scan my face to put my credit card in.
On the computer, I got to type it all out.
It gives me time to think.
I mean, to me, I just, I feel so hamstrung when I'm used to doing something on the computer,
and now I have to do it on my phone.
Like, I can't see any of the things I need to see to act.
And like, you know, the touchscreen versus a mouse and keyboard, like, I'm brushing up against the wrong things.
A new page is loading that I didn't mean to have load.
You know, back in my day.
It's just terrible.
It's the worst.
I don't know how people do it.
Obviously, Scott, I'm degenerating.
drafting right now. And you know, I got to make draft picks on my phone. It's much easier to just go on the
computer and like pull up an auction calculator on the computer instead of like trying to do it on the
phone. It's just, oh man, it's so much harder. I hate when I have to draft on my phone. It's the
worst. Part of the reason I feel like I'm behind is because in my temporary situation here, I'm working
off a laptop. And even that compared to my normal desktop with two giant monitors. So I'm able to
have four different windows open and I don't have to constantly flip between things. I can just
reference them side by side. Yeah. I feel hamstrung with a laptop, much less a phone.
No, it's, that's, I'm team desktop all the way, baby. Uh, back to the tiers for just a second here,
Scott. Oh yeah, that's right. We did get a question, uh, on yesterday's video asking where would
Bobichette be, uh, in the third base tiers? I know we're talking about shortstop tiers, but we just
mentioned he is in the next best things tier. I'm looking at your third base tiers from
yesterday. And my guess is he would probably either be in the near elite or the next best
things tier. Have you thought about that at all? What tier is he at short stuff? He is at next,
he is in next best things. That's the tier he'll be at a third base. Okay. So that's the whole point.
So just to remind people that would be ESOC Paredes, Alex Bregman, and Max Muncie. My guess is he would
be at the top of that tier. So that doesn't sound right, doesn't it doesn't sound right. Yeah.
I don't know, Scott.
Well, Bobbichette doesn't have third base eligibility.
I said that so confidently, too.
You're supposed to, with exception of catcher,
catchers are tiered one higher at catcher
than if they're eligible first base or everything.
But otherwise, you're supposed to be able to cross-reference tiers.
Okay, I'll have to look at that with both.
Third base eligibility should help him.
Yeah, so I think it's also reasonable to just rank him higher as a third base.
Yeah.
And Bo doesn't have it yet, but he will get it by the second week of the season.
Well, as a short stop with the end in anticipation of him.
gaining third base eligibility.
Depending on how you set your schedule up,
it might be the third week of the season.
Yeah.
The fallback options tier,
we have Willie Adomis,
Dansby Swanson, and Jacob Wilson.
Wilson is one tier lower in Roto
in Categories leagues.
Obviously, makes a lot of contact,
but not exactly sure how much power and speed
we're going to get from Jacob Wilson.
The ADP for these three,
Adomis is at 126,
Swanson at 145,
Wilson at 176.
And as this tier name suggests, I think you can get by with these three as your starting shortstop in a deeper league.
But I'd really rather have one of the higher names as my starting shortstop.
I think this group would be fantastic as like my middle infielder.
Yes, they're fallback options, but like I really want a better shortstop than these three.
You're giving something up with any of these three.
Back to the Bobichette thing.
you're you're throwing you're you're messing everybody up frank for roto it would just be at third base
isaq paredes and bo bachette bregman and munsey would be a tier lower in roto and that makes sense
because bregman and munsey are great in points bichette not so great but just for rhodo it would be paredes
and bichette maybe you don't like paredes that high i'm higher on him by far than consensus
okay fine then bo bouchette's in that tier on his own but i do think he deserves
to be behind like Manny Machado
in a different tier from him.
So yeah, I stand by my original statement
that Boba Shett at third base belongs
in the next best things tier,
where he currently is at shortstop.
All right.
Well, there you go.
You know, I was trying to decipher all these, like,
signs and little things that Scott has tears
and all that stuff.
There's a lot going on in this mind of mine.
It can't always translate to paper.
Back to the fallback options.
I think that's exactly what they are.
I think they're fine.
Adamas, swan.
I think we know who these guys are. Wilson, maybe there's a little bit more on top on tapped with him. I think in like a 15 teamer if you really wait at shortstop, they could be fine. In a 12 teamer, I would I think I would be disappointed if I had one of these as my starter. So yeah, the one exception would be Wilson's such a help in batting average that I could see being fine with him as your shortstop because you specifically need that. Like you were the person who took Kyle Schwerber and
the second round.
Right.
And you need to make up that batting average.
That's the one exception, I would say, but, and I know this feels kind of dumb to say about
a 23-year-old, I feel like we saw something close to the best case scenario for Jacob
Wilson last season.
The last resort's tier, we have Colson Montgomery, Xavier Edwards, and Zander Bogartz.
Bogartz is one tier lower in Rodo in Category Leagues.
The ADP for this group, Edwards is at 170.
Montgomery is at 220.
Bogart's is at 227.
You know, Colson Montgomery and Xavier Edwards,
polar opposite players, I mean completely.
If we combine the two, we might have a first-round player.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you took an extreme power hitter and gave him 30 steals,
that'd be a really good player.
In a 280 batting average.
Yeah, I am shocked at how cheap Colson Montgomery is in these drafts right now.
Like, I guess kudos to the community for not overreacting to a probably unsustainable power stretch.
But here's a list of players that Kulsa Montgomery is being drafted behind on average.
Xavier Edwards.
Connor Griffin, okay, I guess that makes sense, but we don't actually know he's on the opening day roster.
Ezekiel Tovar.
Otto Lopez, who I like, and Jose Caballero?
Those guys are all going ahead of, like, I don't even.
like Holson Montgomery and I think
that's kind of silly so
I'm surprised about that
yeah I mean Caballero
and Ezekiel Tovar I
I still
don't really get
the Ezekiel Tovar
hype
Um it was 26 homers and 10 steals two years
ago right? Yeah right
But good home park I think he just profiles
as someone who doesn't hurt you anywhere
Yeah and people like that I guess
But
he doesn't hurt you in runs RBI.
He doesn't help a lot.
Batting average.
But for where he's going,
I mean,
if you get 75 or 80 runs in RBI out of him,
like,
I guess batting average isn't terrible.
Well,
it's not good.
Yeah.
It's a hollow power hitter
who didn't actually hit for much power last year.
If he repeats 2024,
he's a top 120-ish player,
I would guess.
That's valuable.
Yeah.
It's decent profit where he's going.
Well, I tear him lower than Colson Montgomery much more.
I am surprised Colson Montgomery is going behind him, even if I don't.
Especially like Colesle Montgomery.
Yeah.
The Montgomery thing, I think it's similar to what I mentioned earlier with Brandon Lau, maybe
in Jorge Polanco to an extent.
I think a lot of people want their middle infielder to provide speed or batting average,
and Colesum Montgomery gives you neither of those things.
No, that's fair.
It's just kind of like a weird fit at shortstop, you know?
but I think in the right team context
if you're chasing power
I mean he obviously makes a ton of sense there
there is a lot of downside risk there
like I yeah
because he struck out in an absurd rate
and there wasn't
like if the home runs go away
what is there for Colson Montgomery
but that's not entirely fair
for a guy completing his rookie season either
like he's gonna lose some
pace off the home runs for sure
but
he's likely to gain
and little in some areas.
He might legitimately be a 30 homer guy, though.
Yeah.
Or 35 even.
Can I ask one question?
Because I know we're not going to do the leftovers.
Can I ask one question about it?
Sure.
Scott, on the fly right now,
what tier are Connor Griffin,
JJ Weatherholt,
Kevin McGonagle,
and Colt Emerson if they are on the open day roster?
If they are on the opening day roster.
Those are the four big shortstop prospects.
Yeah, they're currently in the leftovers
because that's where I rank them.
not really counting on them to be on the opening their roster, though they could be.
I think they would...
I think whether they'll be.
Least be in the fallback options with Willie Adamas and Danesby Swanson.
Probably Connor Griffin would be higher.
He would be up there with Bo Bichette and C.J. Abrams in the next best things.
Does that seem fair?
Yeah.
I was thinking I was seeing fallback options for Connor Griffin and then maybe last resort for the others.
But yeah, if we know Connor Griffin's up, then yeah, he's probably close to a top 100.
picks. I totally get that. It's one of those like
where should he be drafted, where will he be drafted.
I think around 150 is where he should
be drafted. Around 100 is where he will be
drafted. Right. All right, we
are, there is a leftovers here with 16 names,
but again, I'm not going to read all those off. Eventually
you'll be able to... One of those, Ezegiel Tovar.
Yeah, that's right. But you'll be able to see those
on the site by next week. We are
going to wrap there for Scott and Chris. I am Frank. Thanks as
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