Fantasy Baseball Today - 2026 Second Base & Shortstop Tiers! Freddy Peralta Traded to the Mets! (1/22 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

Before we get to the tiers, the Mets are back at it! This time they acquired Freddy Peralta from the Brewers (2:30). ... The Brewers got Jett Williams and Brandon Sproat in return (10:14). ... First u...p we have the elite and near-elite tiers at second base (21:20). ... Luke Keaschall is a polarizing player in the next best things tier (30:09). ... Should Jackson Holliday be higher than the last resorts tier (42:18). ... Hey, shortstop has a first-rounders tier (54:17). ... Should Zach Neto be higher than the near-elite tier (1:00:00)? ... Willy Adames and Dansby Swanson would be totally fine fallback options in a deeper league (1:13:34). Subscribe to our YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download and Follow Fantasy Baseball Today on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sptfy.com/QiKv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FBT team on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@FBTPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@CPTowers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@CBSScottWhite⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Roto_Frank⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy becomes reality. Now here's Frank, Scott, and Chris. Oh my, the New York Mets have been very busy. Welcome in to Fantasy Baseball today on Thursday, January 22nd.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I am Frank Stample, joined by Scott. Scott White and Chris Towers. Today on the show, we are continuing on with tiers. We have Scott's second base and shortstop tiers for 2026. We'll get to that a little bit later on because for the second night in a row, the Mets decided they would make a huge trade. Well, this trade was much bigger than the previous one, but two trades, two nights in a row. And so we will start there because the Mets got their ace. they acquired Freddie Peralta and Tobias Myers from the Brewers in exchange for prospects Jet Williams and Brandon Sprote seems like a pretty nice haul, at least from my perspective.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Chris might not agree, we'll get to that in a little bit, but just one year of Peralta, so I thought that the Brewers did pretty well here. The Mets needed pitching desperately, obviously. Peralta is coming off one of the best seasons of his career, 270 ERA 108 Whip, but it feels like he overperformed a bit. We've talked about that a lot to solve it. season. Scott, do you think this move changes the value at all for Freddie Peralta in 2026? No, I don't think it changes it, but it needs to change and it needs to change down
Starting point is 00:01:42 to get into it more. So 2022, 2023, 2024, 24, the three years prior to last year. He had an ERA in the 3.6 to 3.8 range. Pretty steady there with that ERA, high threes. Last year, it was 270. So it dropped by like a full run last year for Freddie Peralta, even though strikeout rate, the same, walk rate, the same, ground ball rate, the same, fly ball rate, the same. Average exit velocity, the same. Everything was the same for Freddie Peralta. By the components that make up what a pitcher is, he was the same pitcher, and yet his ERA was of run lower than it always is. So the natural assumption is Freddie Peralta is going to regress by like a run this year.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Now, it doesn't mean he won't be good. He's always been good in fantasy. You know, the guy putting up the 3.6 to 3.80RA was very good. A top 20 to top 25 type pitcher. Especially with 200 strikeouts every single year. Yeah, absolutely. But I am worried now. I mean, I've been worried all along that he's going to be overdrafted,
Starting point is 00:02:59 but maybe that it could be even worse now because he is the Mets. And I think it's fair to say, given the makeup of the Mets rotation now, he is the Mets ace. He is the Mets ace. He is the best, or at least the best pitcher who is established, Nolan McLean being the one I'm obliquely referencing there, the best pitcher who's established on the Mets, which would make Freddie Peralta their de facto ace.
Starting point is 00:03:28 But is he an ace for fantasy purposes? No. No. So be careful not to inflate him. If you can get him around 20th at SP, great. I'd do that too. But you're likely to have to pay more for him than that based on his ADP.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I will say, I think the landing spot's about as good as you could hope for in getting away from a team with an elite defense and coming off a 90s. win season. The Mets probably aren't going to win 97 games. Although I don't think that they'll have an elite defense either. I think the Mets are going to have a really good defense, actually. I really, I think Boba Shett's going to be fine at third base. I think Simeon and Lindor is a great middle infield. I think Luis Robert and Carson Benj are going to be a really, really good
Starting point is 00:04:17 outfield pairing. I think this defense should be, I would say top 10 in baseball. I really like Bichette doesn't have a great arm. I get that, but arm strength isn't everything. If you can handle shortstop, I think you can handle third base. If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. We've always said that. I don't think the Mets are going to win 97 games like the Brewers did last season. So I don't think Freddie Peralta is going to win 17 games.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But I didn't think the Brer was going to win 97 games. And I didn't think Freddie Peralta was going to win 17 games there either. I think the Mets might be as good as the Brewers right now. Like after this trade, I think if you put their wind totals up against each other, I think it'd be close to a toss-up. The Mets have had a really good off-season over the past week. You've got to give them that. You know, it started out pretty rough,
Starting point is 00:05:12 but they've done a very good job making up for a bad start, and I think they're going to be better than they were last year. I think the defense is going to be good. and I think the landing spot's about as good as you could hope for. All they needed to do was get denied or declined, I guess, by Kyle Tucker, and then they just went nuclear after that because they brought in Boba Chet and they traded for Luis Robert and now traded for Freddie Peralta as well. I know this might sound to some, especially if you're a Mets fan and you're listening,
Starting point is 00:05:44 like we're kind of hating on Peralta or poo-pooing him. He's a totally fine pitcher and he's like a solid SPT, maybe even a high-end SB 2, but the way he's being drafted so far this off-season, his ADP in January is 69, and that is the 15th starting pitcher off the board. I think that is being artificially inflated because he had 17 wins last year,
Starting point is 00:06:06 and he finished as a top 10 starting pitcher in fantasy. But for all the reasons you guys mentioned, you know, the left-on-base percentage was very high last year, his babbit was low. I mean, those are just kind of natural things that regress over the course of time. So I would expect, like, a mid-3 ZRA and like a 1-15-ish whip and a bunch of strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And again, that's like a high-end SP2. It's just, I don't know that, you know, he should be like a top 70 pick or a top 15 starting pitcher drafted. So you know what I'm really bumping up against. And I know this isn't the right way to think about it. But you know his ADP was last year. It's outside the top 100, right? It was 112.
Starting point is 00:06:42 He's the, as Scott just said, he is the exact same guy he was in 2024. four. So I just, he was way undervalued last year. I think he's a little bit overvalued this year. I think like if he was going around 80 or 90, love it. Great, great pick. As your potential ace in a 15 team league, he just does not have the volume or the elite ratios to justify it. He's a good pitcher. He pitched over his head last year. And I pointed this out before, especially especially if you're playing a head to head points leagues where you need volume and you need quality starts and you need to go six plus innings consistently. Freddy Peralta did did that in just 13 of 33 starts last year and it's been a consistent thing throughout his career. I mean, he gets a lot of these like five and a third inning starts.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Five innings starts. He's just he's not as efficient as he needs to be to be like a full on ace for fantasy. So keep that in mind when drafting him in a head to points league as well. The updated Mets rotation by the way, Peralta up at the top. Then you have Noel McLean, some combination of David Peterson, Clayholm, Sean Maniah, Kodi, Senga. My guess is Jonah Tong is on the outside looking in. Towards the end of the season looked like he needed more seasoning in the minors.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So we'll see him at some point, but maybe they go with a six-man rotation, or usually these things just figure themselves out. But would you guys guess that it's like Kodi Senga also out right now with Sean Mania and Clay Holmes in? I would guess one of them, if everybody stays healthy between now and opening day, which is a huge if for any team, not picking on any Mets pitchers. It's just pitchers get hurt a lot. I think we should assume someone's going to get hurt in spring training. But presuming one doesn't, I would guess that they have Clay Holmes work out of the bullpen or maybe even Sean Minaya work out of the bullpen. Entirely possible.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So we shall see, but that is the updated Mets rotation. What about the return? the Brewers get Jet Williams and Brandon Sprote. Jet Williams, 22 years old, first round pick back in 2022. Smaller dude, 5 foot 7, has put up big numbers in the minors so far. Lots of OBP, some power, lots of speed. Has mostly played shortstop in the minors, but also some second base and center field. And then Sprote, a little bit older, 25 years old, second round pick back in 2023.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Had that huge 2024 season, but then got off to a very bad start last year. and then pick things up in the second half of the minor league season. So, Chris, I know you didn't like this return as much. Can you see either of those players making an impact this season for the brewers? Jet Williams or Brandon Sprope. To clarify, the Brewers did fine. They got two top 100 prospects for a guy who wasn't going to be there next year. I think that's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I don't specifically like Jet Williams or Brandon Sproop is what it comes down to for me. I just, I'm not a believer in these specific types of. players. Sproat it mostly just comes down to he's got a really bad fastball for a guy who throws 97 98 he had a 6% whiff rate with his sinker at the major league level last season and a 6% with his four seamer these are very very small sample sizes but that those pitches didn't play well in the minors either his change-up is reportedly pretty good he's got a full arsenal from what I understand he has struggled with the right approach to take. He has also struggled with like his in-game stamina,
Starting point is 00:10:21 keeping his velocity throughout the game. So the prospect people I trust tend to not be as high on Brandon Sprote. And that's been true before 2025 when he really struggled on the first half. So I just, I think he's more of a back end type arm. I don't really like he was talked about as like a potential high upside pitcher, but he's an old prospect. I think he's a late rotation spot guy. I don't think this is a difference maker. And then Jet Williams, I mean, this might be unfair.
Starting point is 00:11:01 He gives real Cabin Bissio vibes where the minor league numbers are really good, or at least they were last year. I know he's struggling in 2024, but I worry he's on the passive side of the patience versus passive divide. Um, his swing rate last year was only 43, 43%. His zone swing rate was only 61%. Um, he does not hit the ball very hard, but he does a really good job of pulling it in the air and maximizing the below average raw power that he does have. But I just, I don't know. That, that feels like it could get, um, get exposed really quickly.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Ironically, I think he's a lot like Caleb Durbin, actually. And not just because they're both itty-bitty eyes. I think their skill sets are very similar. And, you know, Williams was a first round pick, and maybe there's more upside than Caleb Durbin, but I think that's the type of player I'm expecting Jet Williams to be. So they are two flawed prospects, and they're flawed in the way that I think is most unappealing
Starting point is 00:12:11 to the real analytical types. Jeff Williams doesn't hit. the ball very hard. Brandon Sproat doesn't miss a lot of bats, or at least this past year he didn't miss a lot of bats. And I think it's fair to say he won't miss a lot of bats of the majors either, and maybe never will be a big deal in fantasy. But what Jet Williams and Brandon Sproe also have is, I think, a workaround for that deficiency.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Jet Williams case, it's pulling the ball in the air a lot to make up for that lack of exit velocity, maybe too much as a matter of fact. Like, I think he's a little too for a five foot seven guy. He should probably accept life as a guy who hits a dozen homers. And I think his overall outcomes would be better. I think the batting average is going to be bad as a result of that, unless that changes. Yeah, unless that changes. Now, he probably, he hopefully would walk enough and steal enough bases to make up for it.
Starting point is 00:13:09 But, you know, I don't think he's a huge, I don't think he has a ton of upside for fantasy. And there is certainly a scenario where Jet Williams doesn't end up being a full-timer in the majors. He ends up being more of utility guy. But he is a, I think the last three years has been a consensus top 100 guy. And he's in my top 100, which was just released earlier this week. Brandon Sprott also is.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He was 93rd for me, so he's barely hanging on. And, you know, you get to that point in the... top 100 and it's like 40 different guys could go there so i very easily could have left brandon sproat out of my top 100 ultimately he was in because of the immediacy because he's very likely to make a contribution right now so i give those guys an edge especially in a fantasy geared list like mine the thing he does to overcome his deficiency you're right the fastball is terrible and i think it got exposed even before he got to the majors. Remember, as great as he was in 2024, it collapsed once he got to triple. He was terrible in the first half. And then he started out this past year, terrible at AAA as well. But he did
Starting point is 00:14:23 make a change. Final 11 starts. I don't know exactly when he began emphasizing the Sinkermore, but he started moving away from that not very good for Seamer and emphasizing a Sinker more like we saw from Edward Cabrera. And who was the other guy who did that? There was some other guy we talked about recently who did that too. Just as a way of, it just works better with his arsenal. And he's, I know in Edward Cabrera's case, he was able to throw it for strikes more.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Gavin Williams, Gavin Williams is the other one who was doing that. So Sprote started doing it too, more sinkers. Final 11 starts at AAA, 244 ERA.93 whip, 10.7K per nine, gets to the majors. And what he had in common in both the major, and the minors, this is Brandon Sprote we're talking about, is, so in the majors, his short time in the majors, 48% ground ball rate. Very good. At AAA, it was 53%. Awesome. His average exit velocity in both the majors and the miners was below 88 miles per hour. So weak grounders, Brandon Sprope, has a track record of
Starting point is 00:15:38 getting those. And that is a great trait to have as a pitcher. Now, is it going to make him a fantasy star if he doesn't have a way of missing bats? No, but I think actually I could see Brandon Sprote having an outcome of another former prospect that other organizations
Starting point is 00:15:58 gave up on and then the Brewers seem to fix them with just Quinn Priester. Mr. Quim Priester was not a fantasy stud last year, but very useful. I think in a similar way that Sproke could be useful. The Brewer's no pitching about as well as any organization, and they were willing to take a shot on this guy. So I'm keeping an open mind. I don't think Brandon Sprope should be drafted in most leagues next year. And I don't think he has a huge ceiling in fantasy. But would it surprise me if he's somebody were picking up and streaming
Starting point is 00:16:25 and finding out he's worth holding on to once we start streaming him this upcoming year? I think that's definitely a plausible scenario. The Brewers updated rotation, by the way, without Peralta. Ziarowski, Quinn Priester, Chad Patrick, and my guess is it would be Logan Henderson, but Henderson dealt with either an elbow or a flexer late last year, and Woodruff obviously has a lengthy injury history as well. So if anything happens to those guys between now and the start of the season, then maybe Sprout has an opportunity very early on this year. And which at Williams, I'll just point out, he's played 34 games at AAA. He probably starts in the minors once again, but if he gets off to a good start, it's like Jake Bowers in left field right now.
Starting point is 00:17:11 So they could easily kind of shuffle things around and get Jet Williams up if he gets off to a nice start in the minors as well. The other big news of the day, Cody Bellinger re-signed with the Yankees on a five-year deal. A couple opt-outs in there as well. Chris and I did an emergency podcast for that. So be sure to check that out if you want to hear more about Cody Bellinger. And I'm pretty sure we said the Yankees might trade Jason Dominguez for Freddie Peralta. That is not true anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:35 That will not be happening. So let's take our first break. When we return, we'll get into second base tiers. We'll do that right after this. Welcome back in fantasy baseball today. Let's get into Scott's second base tiers for 2026. And we will begin with the elite. Only two names in this tier.
Starting point is 00:17:53 That includes Jazz Chisholm, who has second and third base eligibility and Ketel Marte. So if you look at NFBC ADP in January, Jazz is going at Pick 21. and Marte at 33. So these are mostly roto drafts. Still, Marte at 33 seems a little bit low. I think we all have him consensus. Roto rankings 25 for Marte and 22 for Jazz. If you look at our consensus head to points rankings,
Starting point is 00:18:21 that is flipped. Marte at 20, Jazz at 23, and Marte is just awesome in that format. He should be a mid-second rounder in a points league, 3.5 fantasy points per game last season. But Scott, I think both should probably be second rounders regardless of format, but Marte definitely in a points league. Yeah, I have them as an early third rounder in Roto Marte, but close enough.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I mean, Jazz Ches of late second rounder, could tell Marte early third rounder. I think maybe by NFBC standards, you could make the case that it's more urgent to fill the stolen base category early because those are 15 teamers. So maybe that helps to explain the gap between the two there. But I think on most platforms and most league sizes, Chisholm and Marte are going to go pretty close together. You know, Chisholm has the added advantage of also being third base eligible, which is also a nice thing to have,
Starting point is 00:19:23 particularly the deeper your league is. So, you know, that's the advantages to him. But the advantages to Marte, no, he's going to have a much better batting average, probably 30 points better. And how many steals is that worth to you? Opinions will vary. But I think they come out as being pretty close in value even in a 5 by 5 context. All right, let's get into the near elite tier and just one name here. Bryce Terang, he is on an island.
Starting point is 00:19:55 The ADP supports this as well. After Cotel Marte, we have. a 23 pick drop down to Terang who is at 56 and then there's a 40 pick drop after Tarang down to Nico Horner so again he's just kind of like this island of second base ADP and second base tiers tarang represents an interesting skill set at a not so interesting position a big jump in power last year the steals also came down but Chris I think there's a real chance that not that he's just going to blend the skills and just become like a 2050 guy but But I think there's a good chance Terang is like a 20-20 bat next year.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And if the steals come back a little bit, he could be a 2030 bat. I think that is decently realistic for Bryce Terang. I'm really struggling with the Bryce Terang power questions still. I know we talked a ton about it in the second half of last season as it was happening. I just don't know what to make of this. All right. two one one one ten two home runs by month for gilmonds for uh brice terrain the underlying stats back up uh he was i think the biggest bat speed gainer in baseball last year he went from a 66.2 mile
Starting point is 00:21:18 per hour average swing speed to a 70.7 mile per hour um we had matthew true blood on the team preview on beat on it's I think it was earlier today right he was in your podcast feed perfect timing freddie pralter just got traded yeah uh at least we got it out before right um and we kind of assumed yeah it was going to happen I think that's how we approached it his sleep burn breakout were two pitchers who will get an opportunity but you know he he talked a lot about the the way Bryce terrain changed his approach to to hit for more power and the underlying numbers back it up right he took this big step in quality of contact 87.0 mile per hour average, hex velocity in 2024, 91.1 in 2025. He up the launch angle.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And for about a month, he upped the pulled air rate. But for the season as a whole, it was actually lower. And in September in particular, I think it collapsed as well. So we have this. It was basically the same as in 2024, the pole air rate, which is to say very low. It was very low in both years. So, but in in August, I think it was like 15 or 20. 20%. So we have one month in Bryce Terrang's MLB career, which now stretches, what, 400, 500 games? We have one month where he's hit for power, like any power at all. I have no idea what to do with that. My gut instinct is to fade it and to say it was a fluke, but he did it.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And the skills are there. Yeah. If we were only looking at home runs, I'd be inclined to agree with you. But the four mile per hour average exit velocity increase, that was there from the beginning. I mean, even before August happened. No, I noticed his bat speed was way up in me, like a week into the season. I remember noticing that. I wrote an article of like things that might matter after the first week.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And I'm pretty sure Bryce Terang's bat speed was one of them. Yeah. Even before August happened, we were talking, man, if this guy could just start pulling it in the air a little bit. Because this pull air rate is terrible. Like I said, just a little bit. then there might be real power here. And he did for one month. Maybe he'll never do it again.
Starting point is 00:23:31 But I think the more difficult hurdle to clear is just how hard you impact the ball. And he like a four mile per hour increase from one year to the next is insane. Like I don't know who will remember. But to me, Bryce Durang was one of the clearest busts going into last year. That was coming off the 50 steel season. But that's really all he did. And his batted ball dad, it was so bad. It just seemed like, man, this guy, he'll be lucky to hit 254 again.
Starting point is 00:24:02 He became a much, much better hitter in terms of like actual ability. Yeah. How able he is as a hitter. that he's closer to being the 50 steel guy he was two years ago versus the 24 steel guy last year and it's 88th percentile sprint speed. So, yeah, I think he'll be closer
Starting point is 00:24:31 to the higher end than of that dramatic steals range. And if that's the case and you could trust him to be at least pretty good in batting average because he is a much better hitter now, then how much power do you really need to
Starting point is 00:24:48 deliver at the cost? The ball case for him is we don't know what it's going to look like but he's probably going to be good whether it's he takes a step back with the power but runs more still hits for a good batting average or he does it all right like it's possible that he hits 285 next year with let's say 15 homers and steals 40 bases and you're talking about a top 20 player in fantasy yeah i think that's it's more likely that he's a top five second baseman than not. Even if I'm not sure exactly what kind of top five second baseman, Bryce Terrang, will be.
Starting point is 00:25:32 The downside case to me seems to be close to Nico Horner. Does that seem to? Yeah. The upside case would be kind of like Jose Altuvae, not like MVP level of Jose Altuve, but Jose Altuvae for most of his career. I think the one thing is just we've seen. the batting average downside for Bryce Terang. Yeah. We've never seen that from Nico Horner. We've never seen a season where Nico Horner hit 254.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And it's worth noting, Bryce String hit 218 as a rookie, 254 is a second year player. When he was hitting the ball much. Oh, yeah, no, no. It's just we never know how these things are going to work out. Yeah. I'm inclined to agree that I have him ranked about 10 spots ahead of his ADP. So I'm buying it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Okay. Yeah, I am too. I think the ADP is actually a little low. Yes, but I just want to present the case just because I'm struggling with how to analyze a player like this. Especially at a weak position, too. It's just there are not a lot of interesting second baseman. Let's get into the next best things tier that includes Jose Altuve, Niko Horner, and Luke Kishel. Kishel, by the way, one tier lower in Roto slash categories.
Starting point is 00:26:48 The ADP for these three Horner at 99, Jose Altuvae at 113. and Keishel is down at 139. Scott, should Keishel really be one tier lower in Roto? That's the question I have here. I feel like if he works out for fantasy, it's probably good batting average, run scored, and a lot of steals, right? That feels like it would be good for Roto, I think.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I mean, we had the conversation a couple weeks ago, and, you know, we're stressing at this point, these tiers that we're sharing, they're not like the consensus tiers. These are my tiers, so they're based off my rankings, and I'm probably a little lower on Luke Kishel than both of you, I think, especially Chris.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I think Luke Kishel's, there's a good chance he's like Nico Horner. There is a certain percentage chance if he can get his pull air rate close to where it was in the minors. There's a certain percentage chance he's better than Nico Horner. I mean, he could wind up doing something like Terrain just did last year. He could, yeah, he could. But he's very unproved.
Starting point is 00:27:51 been the exit velocities aren't very good. Home run output as a rookie was not very good. He stole a lot of bases. I just want to see more. I think Luke Kishel has enough downsides. I mean, contact quality is a pretty big, pretty big hurdle to clear. To Rang did it, but he improved his contact quality, and I don't know that you would expect many players to do that.
Starting point is 00:28:17 There's a big hurdle to clear. Luke Kishel comes up short there. Maybe he'll be Nico Horner, but I think given the uncertainty, the lack of provenness, a one-tier discount in Roto is appropriate. I think it's more in line with my comfort level. Now, head-dive points is a different story because one of the areas Keishel excels is is plate discipline specifically drawing a lot of walks. So I think it's fair to say he's already a quality starter for you in that format.
Starting point is 00:28:55 But I think we don't really know how he stacks up in the five-by-five categories yet. And I will just point out again, I feel like I'm kind of beating a dead horse here, but we are three tiers into second base and we've only mentioned six names. So again, there's not a lot of high-end talent at this position. Should mention, I was just going to mention with Hotel Tuve that he's getting up there in age, he's turning 36 in May. He still has been fine, 86th overall in Roto last year, 2.8 fantasy points per game. I think he's still given the benefit of the doubt, and he's, you know, he's going like
Starting point is 00:29:28 20 to 30 picks behind where he actually finished last year. So still an okay price tag, I would say. But go ahead, Chris. There is some real bottom out potential for Jose Al-Tube. He's ringing blood from a stone. Is that the, is that, that's a thing people say? Well, we'll pretend that applies here. I've never heard anybody say that.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Sounds like a video game or something. Um, all right. Well, now I'm, now I'm in my head. Maybe you just travel in different circles than me. We're, I hang out with an 11 year old and an eight year old. They said, like six, seven stuff all day.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yeah, exactly. But basically what I'm trying to say is he's gotten the most out of what has become a fairly limited skill set, right? Like he used to routinely put up ex-wobas in the 340 to 350 range that would translate into 370, 390 actual woevas when he was one of the best hitters in baseball. Now it's the last two seasons 319 X-OBA 300-X Woba. And yeah, you still give him a little bump on that,
Starting point is 00:30:32 but it was a 331 Woba last season. It just does feel like there's some Marcus Simeon potential here where like the composite skill set doesn't change that much, but you just, you rely on a lot of little edges. that get harder to create when you're 35, 36 years old. I say this on the verge of turning 38 myself. So Jose, I can, I feel you. But I just, I think there's a chance the bottom falls out.
Starting point is 00:31:02 The way it did for Marcus Simi in the last couple of years, they're very similar players in a lot of ways. And then with Luke Kichel, we, it was like last week, I think. Yep. We had the Luke Kichel conversation. I don't want to get back into it. But I think he's a 40 steel guy, based on the way they let him run last season, both in the majors and the minors.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And one thing I didn't say last week that I should have is he was like six months removed from Tommy John surgery at the start of last season. That probably didn't help. Where was he at the end of last season? He has had a lot of trouble staying. He has had a lot of trouble staying healthy. That is the one thing. It feels a little Matt McLean-e, except Matt McLean was going like 50th last year and Luke Heschel's going a hundred. 130th. So it's much less risk. How would you tear these guys? I have Altuve, Horner, and
Starting point is 00:31:53 Kishel. Well, I guess I have Altuve and Horner one tier head of Kishel for five by five, but all three in the same for points. So the problem is I have about a 14 pick difference between Kishel is my number four and Nika Horner is my number five. And then I have one spot between Horner and Altuve and Altuvae. And then I have 15 spots between Altuve and Jackson Holiday. So it's like, is Kishel in his own tier or is holiday in this tier. I also want to say, I don't feel good about where I have Jackson Holiday ranked at all. That is one of the least confident rankings I have on the board. So lower him.
Starting point is 00:32:27 My gut says I should lower him. Yes, I have much lower than consensus. And then Ozzy Albies I also have at 127. So if you do lower Jackson Holiday, it's easy to say. It's a kind of a bigger tier. Well, it's kind of a bigger tier for me. I guess I would go Keishel Horner, Altuve, Holiday, and Albu. but I don't have a strong conviction on holiday and Albys.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Because I thought I was the high guy on Albies and I am tiering him lower. But it was a debate. Let's get into the next tier that includes Albies. I do just want to make Chris feel better about not being crazy. Ring blood from a stone refers to the idiom, get blood from a stone, meaning to try and get something from someone who is unwilling or unable to provide it, making the task nearly impossible or extremely difficult like trying to extract blood from a light. lifeless rock. So I guess it doesn't, it didn't really work the way I used it, but we'll pretend it did.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, I tried. I got you back. So it was a, this is classic Chris Tower stuff, right? Like just say something to try to sound smart, but don't actually know what it means. That's, that's, that's me all over. That's why you don't, you shouldn't even try to be smart, Chris, and that's exactly what I do. It's just like, you know, just say random things. randomly let's talk about the fallback options tier brandon lao azi albiz and glaber torres is one tier lower in rhodo in category leagues uh why is he lower well he isn't run and uh but he does have great play
Starting point is 00:33:54 discipline and that is very good for head to head points leagues last season average two point eight fantasy points per game that was the same as hose al tuve and that was glaber torres i was just talking about yeah and go ahead he is much much much lower in Roto. So it, it, the way I display the tiers to avoid having completely separate tier lists for the two predominant scoring formats, I put them in the same thing. And then I put these little footnotes to say if they move up or down in different formats. So it just looks wrong having Glaber Torres is named there with Brandon Lowe and Ozzy Albies because he's so much lower in Roto. But that that, that plate discipline last year was phenomenal. You mentioned the points per game. I think it's fair
Starting point is 00:34:35 in points leagues to have them with those two guys. I don't think he's a starter in a Roto League. No, he's more like a middle guy, middle infielder. Yeah, that's totally fine. And the ADP reflects that too. Brandon Lowe at 169, Ozzy Albi's at 162. Torres is down at 244. Most NFBC drafts are Roto leagues.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And so that's why he's going much later than the other two names here. Lau feels disrespected once again, but he doesn't run. And I feel like a lot of people want their second baseman in fantasy to run. So it's, I get that it's kind of like a, a. weird, like, position thing for him. And then Albies, we just have the uncertainty. I mean, he finished strong, but then he suffered that broken hamate bone to the same hand slash wrist that he's had issues with the past couple of years.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So it just kind of raises uncertainty. But back to what you guys were just talking about, I agree with Chris. I would have Albies in the previous tier, like this kind of one bigger tier that has Albies and Altuve and Horner and Keishel and maybe I would throw a holiday in there or maybe be in this tier, but I still have, I think, a good amount of faith in Ozzy Albies. And I think, if I'm remembering correctly, we did some preliminary rankings discussions on the pod before Albi's injury. And I want to say I had him fifth at the time. Yeah, I think I did. And he suffered the hamate injury. And it's just kind of, that's less serious
Starting point is 00:36:01 than the wrist injury that he suffered. But because it took him until July of last year to be fully recovered from the wrist injury and then he suffers this other injury. It's just, I don't know. I don't, I genuinely don't know. Second base is, I think, a really hard position. Because I can see getting to the end of this season and being like, oh, second base is actually pretty cool. But it's a lot of guess work right now. Yeah. I am high on all these relative to the consensus. I guess it sounds like we all are. So. Paul see there for a second, Scott. All three of us have Albies between 123 and 128 in our overall rankings. And his ADP is 162. So we're all pretty much in agreement. That's so funny. I kind of want to put him in the same tier as those
Starting point is 00:36:53 others. I do think there is a there is a different like confidence score for the two of them. How confident I am in Albies versus Nico Horner. And you know, part of it is I know I could get Albi so much later. Is that how to design tiers or should you build in the opportunity to wait? But I put, well, you know, the risk to that is, okay, Altuvei Horn or Kishel, they go within a one round span. Let's say, oh, I better not let this tier deplete. I got to go for Albies now. And you end up taking them, you know, 40 picks earlier than you could have if you do that. So it's, I guess, kind of the downside to tearing positions is maybe sometimes it overstates how defined these drop-offs are. I think if we're assessing Albi's by his upside, then certainly he compares to Jose Altuve or Nico Horner. But if we're factoring in downside risk, if we're factoring in just how fearful the fantasy drafters on the whole seem to be about taking him.
Starting point is 00:38:03 then I think he belongs in a lower tier. And by the way, this tier is so small. It's really for Roto leagues, it's just him and Brandon Lowe, right? So I think, and like, I think Lowe's being undervalued too. You mentioned it. You know, he's, other than Chisholm and Catell Marte, he's the only third baseman who you might project 30 homers for Brandon Lowe. So I think he's being undervalued.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I think he's a fine choice here. Like, to me, it's like, okay, as soon as you, you see Brandon Lau or Ozzy Albis go, you take the other. And I prefer to have Albis than Lau, I think. But ultimately, not that much. So they belong in the same tier. Let's get into the last resorts tier. That includes Jorge Polanco, Xavier Edwards, Jackson Holiday,
Starting point is 00:38:52 Marcus Semyon, Brendan Donovan, Seidon, Rafael, Matt McLean, and Bryson Stott. So big old meaty tier here. Lots of names in this one. The ADP on this group ranges from Raphaela at 123 down to Brendan Donovan at 293. Donovan is one tier lower in a rhodo or categories league. So if you
Starting point is 00:39:13 just look at Marcus Semyon, it would end at 249. So from about 125 to 250 is the range for this group. And that is a massive range. Draftors so far, much higher on Raphaela and Jackson Holiday. Scott, did you consider putting either of those two in
Starting point is 00:39:32 the previous tier? The fallback options here. Because I'm not. I'm not much higher on them. Yep. I, you know, these are your tiers. They're listed within the tiers in the order I rank them. And I have Jorge
Starting point is 00:39:45 Palanco and Xavier Edwards both ahead of Jackson Holiday. I have Marcus Simeon ahead of Sadean-Raphael. I actually like Simeon as a sleeper this year. I think you know, you look at the park upgrade, it's going to the Mets, City Field.
Starting point is 00:40:01 That for him specifically, the way his the way the ball comes off his bat. It is a significant park upgrade. And I think he was on track to pay him pretty good last year too and just had that broken foot happen at the worst possible time. So I'm not going to draft Jackson Holiday, it feels like, but I would be just as happy taking Marcus Simeon. I think the chance, I think the realistic upside for both is similar.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And I'm not sure the downside. side is that dissimilar. I don't think Jackson Holiday was that good last year. Oh, he wasn't. I've been struggling with Jackson Holiday because I rank him pretty close to ADP. And I don't feel super comfortable about that. I wish I had something to point to besides, well,
Starting point is 00:40:54 look how young he is to make my case for Jackson Holiday. Right. It's just that he made it to the majors as a 20 year old, right? and then he held his own as a 21 year. As a former number one overall pick and the son of a multi-time All-Star. He did improve a lot year over year.
Starting point is 00:41:17 He got a lot better. He still wasn't good. Right. Like he was a below average major league hitter last season with pretty much across the board below average metrics. It's just this is historically the type of hitter you bet on. Like you get to the majors that young, you hold your own that young,
Starting point is 00:41:37 you're probably going to be good. It's a lot like Yuri Perez. It's just does it happen in 2026? Does it happen in 2028? It's a little different from Yuri Perez because Yuri Perez has been dominant. Right. Yuri Perez has flashed the actual skills. His IRA was over four last year.
Starting point is 00:41:54 He has some flaws. But yes, that's a good point. But it's just. I want to see it from holiday. I think that's totally fair. It's been most of two years. I mean, he was up out of spring training. two years ago, right?
Starting point is 00:42:08 And then he got sent back down because he was doing so poorly. I think he got sent down. I think he got sent down after a couple weeks. At the end of spring training. Like he didn't make the team. And then I think he was up later on, but then struggling.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah, he was up pretty early. Yeah. It didn't work out. Got sent back down. Came up. Had a little bit of a power surge, but ultimately wasn't very good. And then last year he was, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:28 he was good. Like if you think Xander Bogart's, the current version of Zander Bogart's good, then fine. Jackson Holiday was good. I think for fantasy purposes, we don't view Prokarts is that good anymore. Maybe Holiday, you know, maybe, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:42 maybe next year will be the year. But what I'm saying is why I was making the Marcus Semy in comparison, if you want to put Ozzy Albis, I put Ozzy Albys in a higher tier, obviously, but, you know, same sort of thing. There are enough upside cases in this range of the second base rankings
Starting point is 00:43:00 that I don't see a reason to single out holiday as I mean of the three he's the one who's never done it before right yeah yeah um so I have a couple of other thoughts on this tier that I want to get to um one or uh horre polanco he could drive in 110 runs this year like if he just stays healthy and has a normal horrid polanco season I know staying healthy and being consistent has been an issue for him over the year but the top of that lineup. I mean, he's going to be hitting probably cleanup behind Francisco Indore, Juan Soto, and Boba Chet.
Starting point is 00:43:42 It's pretty good. That's a really awesome place to be. So that's one where if you get to that point in your draft and you find that the RBI totals on your team are lacking, well, Jorge Polanco, even in the month of January, his ADP is outside of the top 200. Yeah. So I think he's, He's a great target.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I think he's a great value. He's being undervalued. I mean, again, other reasons why you don't really have to say that, well, I got to find upside somewhere at second base argument for Jackson Holiday because it's there. There is upside. The other thing I wanted to say is I do not understand the Sedan Rafael price. I just like he's being drafted right around 120 in ADP. he finished right around 120 overall last season.
Starting point is 00:44:37 If you actually had Sedan Rafael on your team, I do not think you actually thought he was one of the 120 best players in fantasy. He was terrible in April. He was not very good in May. He was awesome in June, awesome in July, and he was unplayable in August and September. Months are arbitrary endpoints, to be clear. But for the majority of last season,
Starting point is 00:45:05 Saddam Rafael was not good. As a hitter, the underlying metrics are terrible. He might be the only player with worse play discipline than Pete Carr Armstrong among fantasy relevant players. And it's not like he's a 35 steel guy like Peter Armstrong. He's still 20 bases last year. He's going to be in the lineup a ton.
Starting point is 00:45:28 He is like Pete Car Armstrong, one of the very best center fielders in baseball. I think Saddam Rafael is a fringy fantasy bat. Like, I look at him and I look at Otto Lopez. I don't really think Saddam Rafael is a better fantasy player than Otto Lopez. I think there's a little bit more juice with someone, somebody like Raphaela, I think having the dual position eligibility kind of props him up a little bit to second base in outfield.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I'm happy you mention the name P. Peaker Armstrong a bunch there because I think it's kind of a similar case. I think they're both super shrieky players. Bad plate discipline is probably a big reason for that. But I kind of look at Raphael as kind of this freaky athlete too. He's super fast. Would not surprise me one bit if the steals jump up this year. And maybe instead of him, you know, being that super shrieky player that has like two or three bad months,
Starting point is 00:46:24 maybe it's just like one or two bad months. And then it's four great months. That wouldn't surprise me at 25 years old if he just gets a little bit better. So, but that's the same kind of argument, I guess, for Holiday. It's like, you're kind of paying for the player to get better. Like, yes, it would be fine if he just finished where he's drafted, but of course you always want to profit. So you're kind of baking in, hoping that Raphael gets better this season.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And I think it's possible at his age, 25 years old. To be fair, Holiday was a much better prospect and a much more productive player at the minor league level. For sure. Yes, totally get that. The Leftover's Tier has 19 names here. I'm not going to read them off. Honestly, not even going to give you.
Starting point is 00:47:03 you're an opportunity to talk about them because we got to talk about shortstop. So I'm going to take our final break and we'll get to short stops right after this. Welcome back in fantasy baseball today. We're about to get into shortstop tiers as well. I actually did see a few comments on yesterday's video asking where can I see these tiers. I know that we don't have like graphics on the screen. I wish we had the wherewithal and like the manpower to get that done. Yes, it would make the show better, but we just we just don't have enough hands on deck to do that. These will all be an article form at some point. I think probably within the next week or two for you, Scott. So if people actually want to see the tiers themselves, they will be on the website at some point. CBSports
Starting point is 00:47:39 com. They will be next week. They will be next week. Normally they come out before we record these or at the same time as recording these. I'm just a little behind. It's a lot going on in my life right now. None of it bad, but yeah, I'm a little behind. Yeah, I get it. I'm not blaming you, Scott. I'm just like people are asking to see them. And so I just wanted to let them know that those articles will be coming at some point. Let's get into shortstop tiers. Very different vibe than second base. We have a first rounders tier.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Shortstop is amazing, obviously. Bobby Witt Jr., Ellie De La Cruz, and Francisco Lindor. Ellie is one tier lower and head dead points, which makes sense. His value is tied to big stolen bases and his plate discipline. While it has improved, it's still lacking compared to other first round hitters. The NFBC ADP in January for this group, Witt is right at 3. Ellie is right around 9 and Lindor is at 16
Starting point is 00:48:34 Our consensus roto rankings We have Witt at 3, Ellie at 10 And Lindor at 14 So Scott I know technically Lindor is not a first round pick But I view him as a player That should go at the 1-2 turn I mean he's
Starting point is 00:48:51 I think he's a first round pick for me Our consensus is 14 So it's like right there at the turn He's right there He's right there you know If you took him 12th I certainly wouldn't bat an eye at it. I might do it myself in some draft down the line.
Starting point is 00:49:06 So, yeah, I think he deserves to be tiered with. You know, I guess the best way to think about it is if Lindor is there and one of the elite at another position is. So Lador in the first rounders tier, let's say Cal Raleigh, the elite at catcher is there. you're going to take? Well, you got the tiers say you got to take Lindor, and I think you absolutely should take Lindor. I don't think there's any debate there. Yeah. So that's part of the reason why is he, because I know the next tier is Gunner Henderson. Okay, does Lindor really deserve to be tiered separately from Gunner Henderson? Well, I can think about taking Cal Raleigh rather than Gunner Henderson, but I would not consider it in place of Francisco Lindor. I agree with that,
Starting point is 00:49:55 too. I mean, Lindor has been so consistent. The track record is just, There's much more of a track record for him than Gunner Henderson. Lindorres finished as a top 12 overall player in Roto four years in a row. Each season between 8 and 12, it's just crazy consistency. And his 3.6 fantasy points per game, he's great in points leagues as well. The elite tier, Gunner Henderson, Trey Turner, Mookie Betts, and Geraldo Pardomo. Betts and Pardomo both one tier lower in Roto and Category Leagues. Despite Betts taking a step back last year, still 3.1 fantasy points per game.
Starting point is 00:50:30 and Perdomo, he was a stud regardless of format, but the way that he hits, his plate discipline is really good, the strikeout rate is very low. It's a skill set that should excel in a points league in particular, maybe if some of the other numbers take a step back this year. The ADP for this group, Gunner is at 15.2, Trey Turner at 27. Betts is at 55 and Perdomo is at 76. So it's a little bit all over the place. Yeah, well, I mean, worth noting the ADP is roto ADP. Right, right. But Zipurdoma wouldn't be in this tier for Roto. So, yes, it's really just Gunner Henderson and Trey Turner we're looking at for Roto.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And to me, they're both, they're both second rounders. I think Trey Turner is being under drafted. One thing I want to point out with Mookie Betts is in Kyle Tucker's introductory press conference, which I think was yesterday, uh, Tuesday. Dave Roberts said he's going to hit either second or third. You started the math. And it's like, where's Mookie going to hit? It might be second.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I would assume Would you go lefty, lefty, lefty? That seems to Dave Roberts doesn't seem to like doing that. I don't think anybody likes to do it. But if it's If Tucker's third, then Betts can be second and Freeman could just be four. But if Tucker's second.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I mean, Tucker cleanup makes the most sense. I wonder if Dave Roberts is going to go back on that. I just wonder, like, I just worry, does Mookie drop in the lineup and lose a little bit of his playing time edge. He's going to be somewhere in the top four regardless, right? He has to me, I imagine. But dropping from predominantly second to predominantly fourth would cost about 6% of his plate appearances over the course of the season. And at this point, his career, I think that genuinely matters because he's not necessarily a per plate appearance impact guy.
Starting point is 00:52:26 It's just he's good and he's in a phenomenal offense in a great spot. So that's just the one thing to keep in mind with Mookie. And then I do want to just circle back to Ellie Dela Cruz for a second. It's the quad. I think the quad is why he was so bad in the second half. I really like he stopped running his he was having a breakout season as a bat. He had cut the strike rate to like 25% in the first half. I have L.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Dela Cruz as a top seven player. I'm tiered him as high as I possibly good. No, no. I'm not I'm not saying you're wrong. I just I'm a little high. I'm a couple spots higher than the. consensus on L.A. Dela Cruz. And I want to make that case for him because I've never been higher on L.A. De La Cruz than the consensus until now. While we are mentioning injuries, we should
Starting point is 00:53:12 mention with Gunner Henderson that he started last season with an intercostal strain. And then we just learned recently that he played through most of the season with a shoulder impingement. So definitely explains why he had a down season. I am expecting not 2024 levels, but somewhere in between. 270 plus batting average. And I think 25, 25 is like a fair expectation for Gunner Henderson. To me, that is a probably early second round pick in fantasy, regardless of format for Gunner Henderson.
Starting point is 00:53:43 The near elite tier, and this is a unique one because there are two names here, but it's really a tier of one depending on the format. So in Roto and category leagues, it's just Zach Netto. And in Head Dead Points Leagues, it's just Corey Seeger. It's Corey Seeger. Uh, wait a second. Seeger points, Neto and Rojo. In Rodo, it's Netto Betts Perdomo.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Oh, correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And points, it would just be Seeger. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So it is definitely unique in that way, depending on the format things. Has the most format discrepancies, at least of any of the infield positions. I would say of any position overall relative to the number of names there. So it's, I'm sorry, there's going to be a painful list because of that.
Starting point is 00:54:28 But just try your best. We'll try our best. The ADP for Netto, by the way, in January, 30.2, that is much closer to the elite tier. 23 homers, 30 steals in 2024. He followed that up by going 2626 last year in just 128 games. Could very easily be a 30-30 bat here in 2026. Scott, why is Zach Netto not in the elite tier? Because look at all the other numbers.
Starting point is 00:54:58 They're just not that impressive. He was really impressive in two categories last year, but not in any of the others, obviously isn't part of an especially good lineup, doesn't walk a lot to score a lot of runs himself. And I think it's more likely he regresses in the areas where he excelled than that he improves in the areas where he didn't. So Zach Meadow is great, but I think people who are saying he's just as good as Trey Turner,
Starting point is 00:55:30 or saying that by the way they draft them anyway. I think they're given Netto a little too much credit and Trey Turner not enough credit. Yeah, Turner right at 27 and Netto at 30s. So, I mean, that is a real decision that people are making right now. Do I take Trey Turner or do I take Zach Netto? Fairly is a call with Turner for me. Yeah, I think you guys agree.
Starting point is 00:55:52 The track record, too. I mean, I have Netto, I think, as like a mid to late third rounder, but I think I have Turner as like a solid back-in second-round pick. So I think that's a pretty easy call for me as well. Let's get into the next best things tier. That includes C.J. Abrams, Bobauchette, Jeremy Payne, and Trevor Story. Story one tier lower in head-to-head points leagues. He's got power and speed.
Starting point is 00:56:15 We know that. Also lots of strikeout. So that's what brings him down in the head-to-head points format. The ADP for this group, Abrams is at 55, Boba-Bichette at 102, Jeremy Payne at 93, story at 104. So one of these things not like the other, Scott. Did you at all think about CJ Abrams being one tier higher than this? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I did. I think what you see is what you get with CJ Abrams at this point. But I want it to not be. I want it to not be. Yeah. And if you just look at the first halves the last two years, there's like, oh, CJ Abrams could be so much more. He could be like a fourth round type player.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But, you know, it's really the last three years. His numbers are almost identical. He had actually a bunch more steals in 2023, but if you're just as a hitter, if you're just looking at the hitting stats for C.J. Abrams, kind of has been the exact same player three straight years, even though for certain halves of those seasons, he looked like he was breaking through with something more.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And so if he's the 250 hitting, 20 homer 30 steel guy he's consistently been. I don't think that's as good as Zach Nettto. And so I think he needs to be in a lower tier. The one thing I if I seem a little out of it or my voice sounds a little scratchy, this is the fifth podcast I'm recording today, by the way. And I was on the the Cards and Categories podcast on Rasball earlier. And we were talking about the NL East. And one thing that I brought up about the nationals in particular is it's worth keeping a mind.
Starting point is 00:57:54 They cleared house this offseason. They got rid of like everyone in the front office basically and everyone in the coaching staff and hired a bunch of millennials. I think they're all younger than me, which is scary. Yeah. Yeah. Like it. Millennium. There's going to be a lot of like MGMT on the playlist in the Nationals Clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:58:12 That's a joke for you elder millennials. But I point that out just to say one, it's a great joke. And two. I derailed myself with that. dumb joke. I'm sorry. And two, it's possible that the nationals are just much better from a process standpoint in 2026. And all these dudes, James Wood, C.J. Abrams, Mackenzie Gore, Dylan Cruz, all these guys who have been kind of disappointing, or in Dylan Cruz case, extremely disappointing, but have flashed real tools. And it's like, man, I wish these guys
Starting point is 00:58:49 would figure out how to put their tools into play more consistently and not have these huge peaks. and low valleys, maybe having a bunch of kids who know how to use computers will help them. I'm being flippant, but like... You ain't using computers for more than Oregon Trail? Yeah. You know, like, well, you know, it's like... The older millennials will love that one, too. These, you know, well, because it's like millennials are the only people who actually know how to use computers.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Everyone else is like tablets. Yeah, that's a good point. And so it's like, yeah, uh, we're getting a lot of niche millennial humor on this show. 50, 500 days of summer. Great movie. Anyway, it's just to say that the Nationals approach, it's great. The Nationals approach could be much better
Starting point is 00:59:35 and much more conducive to ringing the kind of edges that they've been missing out of these super talented players. It's like, man, I will never forget. I mean, I might forget at some point, but CJ Abrams last year, like hit one into the, into McCovey Cove early on in like April. And it was like, that is crazy impressive for like a 510 shortstop to do in April.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And it's one of those things where like, man, his max at EV was like 113 last year. If he could just consistently do that, you can see a 2540 outcome for CJ Abrams. He just has to do it for a whole season. And I'm hoping the nationals can just be a little more efficient. You can see it. But you agree that at this point after three years of baseball. basically the exact same production. Like it's 100% agreed, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yeah. You should not, you should not draft or rank C.J. Abrams as if that's going to happen. It would be a nice thing if it did. Back to the technology conversation. I feel like I'm weird in this way, but anything that I could do on both a computer and my phone, I would much rather do on the computer.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Is that weird? Oh, a thousand percent. It depends. There's this thing where like, apparently like Gen Zers like buy plane tickets and like big purchases with their like phones. And like, no, if I'm spending like real money, it's on the computer.
Starting point is 01:00:59 That's a computer. That's a job for the computer. Yeah. Because I need, you know what it is? I can't be trusted to have just like the thing that scans my face to spend money. That is not a big enough barrier. I will make a lot of dumb decisions if all I have to do is just scan my face to put my credit card in. On the computer, I got to type it all out.
Starting point is 01:01:21 It gives me time to think. I mean, to me, I just, I feel so hamstrung when I'm used to doing something on the computer, and now I have to do it on my phone. Like, I can't see any of the things I need to see to act. And like, you know, the touchscreen versus a mouse and keyboard, like, I'm brushing up against the wrong things. A new page is loading that I didn't mean to have load. You know, back in my day. It's just terrible.
Starting point is 01:01:49 It's the worst. I don't know how people do it. Obviously, Scott, I'm degenerating. drafting right now. And you know, I got to make draft picks on my phone. It's much easier to just go on the computer and like pull up an auction calculator on the computer instead of like trying to do it on the phone. It's just, oh man, it's so much harder. I hate when I have to draft on my phone. It's the worst. Part of the reason I feel like I'm behind is because in my temporary situation here, I'm working off a laptop. And even that compared to my normal desktop with two giant monitors. So I'm able to
Starting point is 01:02:20 have four different windows open and I don't have to constantly flip between things. I can just reference them side by side. Yeah. I feel hamstrung with a laptop, much less a phone. No, it's, that's, I'm team desktop all the way, baby. Uh, back to the tiers for just a second here, Scott. Oh yeah, that's right. We did get a question, uh, on yesterday's video asking where would Bobichette be, uh, in the third base tiers? I know we're talking about shortstop tiers, but we just mentioned he is in the next best things tier. I'm looking at your third base tiers from yesterday. And my guess is he would probably either be in the near elite or the next best things tier. Have you thought about that at all? What tier is he at short stuff? He is at next,
Starting point is 01:03:05 he is in next best things. That's the tier he'll be at a third base. Okay. So that's the whole point. So just to remind people that would be ESOC Paredes, Alex Bregman, and Max Muncie. My guess is he would be at the top of that tier. So that doesn't sound right, doesn't it doesn't sound right. Yeah. I don't know, Scott. Well, Bobbichette doesn't have third base eligibility. I said that so confidently, too. You're supposed to, with exception of catcher, catchers are tiered one higher at catcher
Starting point is 01:03:29 than if they're eligible first base or everything. But otherwise, you're supposed to be able to cross-reference tiers. Okay, I'll have to look at that with both. Third base eligibility should help him. Yeah, so I think it's also reasonable to just rank him higher as a third base. Yeah. And Bo doesn't have it yet, but he will get it by the second week of the season. Well, as a short stop with the end in anticipation of him.
Starting point is 01:03:49 gaining third base eligibility. Depending on how you set your schedule up, it might be the third week of the season. Yeah. The fallback options tier, we have Willie Adomis, Dansby Swanson, and Jacob Wilson. Wilson is one tier lower in Roto
Starting point is 01:04:03 in Categories leagues. Obviously, makes a lot of contact, but not exactly sure how much power and speed we're going to get from Jacob Wilson. The ADP for these three, Adomis is at 126, Swanson at 145, Wilson at 176.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And as this tier name suggests, I think you can get by with these three as your starting shortstop in a deeper league. But I'd really rather have one of the higher names as my starting shortstop. I think this group would be fantastic as like my middle infielder. Yes, they're fallback options, but like I really want a better shortstop than these three. You're giving something up with any of these three. Back to the Bobichette thing. you're you're throwing you're you're messing everybody up frank for roto it would just be at third base isaq paredes and bo bachette bregman and munsey would be a tier lower in roto and that makes sense
Starting point is 01:05:00 because bregman and munsey are great in points bichette not so great but just for rhodo it would be paredes and bichette maybe you don't like paredes that high i'm higher on him by far than consensus okay fine then bo bouchette's in that tier on his own but i do think he deserves to be behind like Manny Machado in a different tier from him. So yeah, I stand by my original statement that Boba Shett at third base belongs in the next best things tier,
Starting point is 01:05:25 where he currently is at shortstop. All right. Well, there you go. You know, I was trying to decipher all these, like, signs and little things that Scott has tears and all that stuff. There's a lot going on in this mind of mine. It can't always translate to paper.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Back to the fallback options. I think that's exactly what they are. I think they're fine. Adamas, swan. I think we know who these guys are. Wilson, maybe there's a little bit more on top on tapped with him. I think in like a 15 teamer if you really wait at shortstop, they could be fine. In a 12 teamer, I would I think I would be disappointed if I had one of these as my starter. So yeah, the one exception would be Wilson's such a help in batting average that I could see being fine with him as your shortstop because you specifically need that. Like you were the person who took Kyle Schwerber and the second round. Right. And you need to make up that batting average.
Starting point is 01:06:20 That's the one exception, I would say, but, and I know this feels kind of dumb to say about a 23-year-old, I feel like we saw something close to the best case scenario for Jacob Wilson last season. The last resort's tier, we have Colson Montgomery, Xavier Edwards, and Zander Bogartz. Bogartz is one tier lower in Rodo in Category Leagues. The ADP for this group, Edwards is at 170. Montgomery is at 220. Bogart's is at 227.
Starting point is 01:06:47 You know, Colson Montgomery and Xavier Edwards, polar opposite players, I mean completely. If we combine the two, we might have a first-round player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if you took an extreme power hitter and gave him 30 steals, that'd be a really good player. In a 280 batting average.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, I am shocked at how cheap Colson Montgomery is in these drafts right now. Like, I guess kudos to the community for not overreacting to a probably unsustainable power stretch. But here's a list of players that Kulsa Montgomery is being drafted behind on average. Xavier Edwards. Connor Griffin, okay, I guess that makes sense, but we don't actually know he's on the opening day roster. Ezekiel Tovar. Otto Lopez, who I like, and Jose Caballero? Those guys are all going ahead of, like, I don't even.
Starting point is 01:07:41 like Holson Montgomery and I think that's kind of silly so I'm surprised about that yeah I mean Caballero and Ezekiel Tovar I I still don't really get the Ezekiel Tovar
Starting point is 01:07:57 hype Um it was 26 homers and 10 steals two years ago right? Yeah right But good home park I think he just profiles as someone who doesn't hurt you anywhere Yeah and people like that I guess But he doesn't hurt you in runs RBI.
Starting point is 01:08:15 He doesn't help a lot. Batting average. But for where he's going, I mean, if you get 75 or 80 runs in RBI out of him, like, I guess batting average isn't terrible. Well,
Starting point is 01:08:24 it's not good. Yeah. It's a hollow power hitter who didn't actually hit for much power last year. If he repeats 2024, he's a top 120-ish player, I would guess. That's valuable.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Yeah. It's decent profit where he's going. Well, I tear him lower than Colson Montgomery much more. I am surprised Colson Montgomery is going behind him, even if I don't. Especially like Colesle Montgomery. Yeah. The Montgomery thing, I think it's similar to what I mentioned earlier with Brandon Lau, maybe in Jorge Polanco to an extent.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I think a lot of people want their middle infielder to provide speed or batting average, and Colesum Montgomery gives you neither of those things. No, that's fair. It's just kind of like a weird fit at shortstop, you know? but I think in the right team context if you're chasing power I mean he obviously makes a ton of sense there there is a lot of downside risk there
Starting point is 01:09:17 like I yeah because he struck out in an absurd rate and there wasn't like if the home runs go away what is there for Colson Montgomery but that's not entirely fair for a guy completing his rookie season either like he's gonna lose some
Starting point is 01:09:33 pace off the home runs for sure but he's likely to gain and little in some areas. He might legitimately be a 30 homer guy, though. Yeah. Or 35 even. Can I ask one question?
Starting point is 01:09:47 Because I know we're not going to do the leftovers. Can I ask one question about it? Sure. Scott, on the fly right now, what tier are Connor Griffin, JJ Weatherholt, Kevin McGonagle, and Colt Emerson if they are on the open day roster?
Starting point is 01:10:01 If they are on the opening day roster. Those are the four big shortstop prospects. Yeah, they're currently in the leftovers because that's where I rank them. not really counting on them to be on the opening their roster, though they could be. I think they would... I think whether they'll be. Least be in the fallback options with Willie Adamas and Danesby Swanson.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Probably Connor Griffin would be higher. He would be up there with Bo Bichette and C.J. Abrams in the next best things. Does that seem fair? Yeah. I was thinking I was seeing fallback options for Connor Griffin and then maybe last resort for the others. But yeah, if we know Connor Griffin's up, then yeah, he's probably close to a top 100. picks. I totally get that. It's one of those like where should he be drafted, where will he be drafted.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I think around 150 is where he should be drafted. Around 100 is where he will be drafted. Right. All right, we are, there is a leftovers here with 16 names, but again, I'm not going to read all those off. Eventually you'll be able to... One of those, Ezegiel Tovar. Yeah, that's right. But you'll be able to see those on the site by next week. We are
Starting point is 01:10:59 going to wrap there for Scott and Chris. I am Frank. Thanks as always for tuning into fantasy baseball today. Please make sure to follow and leave a five-star rating on Apple or Spotify. And we will be back again tomorrow. Bye-bye. Mount Podcasts.

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