Fantasy Baseball Today - Carrasco Out 4-6 Weeks!? Rankings Risers and Fallers! (3/19 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)
Episode Date: March 19, 2021Carlos Carrasco suffered a tear in his hamstring and is expected to miss the next 4-6 weeks (3:20). How far are we moving him down the rankings? Would you rather have Carrasco or Framber Valdez? ... I...f you're drafting this weekend, who is one player you must have (14:10)? ... There's still time to get on the Austin Meadows bandwagon (21:05)! ... Let's have a convo about late-round middle infielders who are rising (24:02). ... Vladimir Guerrero Jr. SZN (27:45)? ... The legend of Sandy Alcantara is growing (29:50). ... Is Ketel Marte back (38:18)? ... Rockies on the rise (42:00). ... Buy Aaron Civale (44:40)! ... Which players are falling (49:00)? ... Some news and notes: Bellinger homered, Dinelson Lamet update, when should you draft Stephen Strasburg this weekend (54:35)? ... We wrap up with players who get a boost and those who lose value in OBP formats (59:40). ... Email us at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com. Join our FBT Bracket Challenge for a chance to enter the 'For the People' league: http://cbssports.com/FBTbrackets Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank, @AdamAizer Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Domingo Santana,
Lucas,
a fococca,
a jag like Michael Waka,
Polanco, and from...
Happy Kokomo Friday,
welcome into fantasy baseball today.
Frank Sample, joined by Scott White
and Chris Towers.
Now, what's up, Chris?
You good?
Yeah.
Excited?
Yeah.
It sounded like you just like to hear you say his name.
Yeah, it's just, you know,
sometimes you're like in, you know,
in the Mandalorian when he learned Grobu's name.
and he just kept saying it, and Grogo would just look up at him every time he said.
It was kind of like that.
I just like the way you say my name.
Well, I appreciate that, Chris.
And I have no idea what you're talking about because I have not watched a Mandalorian.
Surprise.
Oh, sorry.
Spoiler alert.
Baby Yoda's name is not Baby Yoda.
Wow.
I mean, do I even need to watch it now?
It's like between that, Seinfeld, people are coming at me.
They did not like the Seinfeld take, Scott.
Also, Darth Vader.
Is Luke Skywalker's father.
Oh, wow.
I mean,
come back.
Sorry.
Just ruined everything.
You had to learn,
and he was Anakin Skywalker.
You had to learn sometime,
Frank.
We can't shelter you from the world.
Get out of here.
That was probably,
that wasn't my first Azer take,
but that was definitely an Azer take.
So I deserve that.
I got to go back and watch Seinfeld.
I don't know.
I got to give it another shot.
I'll try again.
It's not a show that you should probably watch
from the first episode because it's a show
where the first episode is probably the worst episode.
Yeah, Elaine's not in it.
Right.
In a pilot.
It's a very different.
show. Yeah. I would go to the IMDB page for Seinfeld and see the highest rated episodes and just go down
the list that way. That's probably the best way to enjoy a non-serialized show like that.
That's fair. Yeah, I mean, I could do that for five to ten just to get myself ingrained into it.
But then I would like to watch it in chronological order, even though it probably doesn't matter.
But I don't know. I just have a weird thing with organization. We are now inside two.
weeks of opening day. And the weirdest part is that I am already all drafted out. And I haven't
even had my main drafts yet, which is the weirdest part. Has it happened to either of you?
Oh, yeah. I'm burnt out. It's March 18th, 19th. Yeah, I'm burnt out. I'm, I'm looking forward to Scott
giving me back my week, my weekday nights, you know, he's taking all my time up with mock drafts.
Yeah, with mock drafts. There are still going to be these podcasts we have to do. Yeah, but I have to do
the podcast now anyway.
Okay.
But now, like, I stopped working at like 6.30.
And I got to do a podcast at 8.
Staring at my phone all afternoon.
It's bad for my eye, Scott.
You're ruining my eyesight.
There are times where I step away from the computer after just hours.
And I feel like my vision is blurry.
I don't know.
I think I'm losing it.
I don't know what's going on.
It's a big weekend, though.
I've got the NFBC main event.
I've got Tout Wars, heads head salary cap draft on Sunday as well.
So very busy time.
I've got to get myself into the draft spirit somehow.
You know what's not going to do it?
This unfortunate news about Carlos Carrasco.
So let's start there.
The biggest news maybe of the spring so far.
I'm probably forgetting something,
but definitely the biggest news from the past couple of days.
Carlos Carrasco has a hamstring tear
and will be sidelined a minimum of six to eight weeks.
And this is even more unfortunate
because he was the player I loved.
and I really did like the value that you were getting him at
before all of this started up,
the elbow inflammation, now the hamstring tear.
And, I mean, it was a nice story
because he was coming back from obviously leukemia last year,
and he pitched really well.
So that brings us to about early to mid-May
as the timeline for Carrasco,
and then he still has to ramp back up.
So there is a chance that we will not see
Carlos Carrasco pitch for the Mets
until sometime in June at the earliest.
So it's a really tough call right now.
I dropped Carrasco down to SP 49 in Roto and SP 54 in head-to-head points,
just behind names like Corey Kluber,
Marcus Stroman, who I'll talk about a little bit later on as well,
and Jameson Tyone.
Scott, your first reaction to this Carasco news
and how far I dropped him in the rank.
Well, it surprised me how far you dropped him down,
and then I looked into it a little more.
and you know, they were classifying it as a tear as opposed to a strain.
And, you know, every strain is a tear.
That's every strain is a tear.
But when they call it a tear, that usually signals it's a worse strain.
Usually means it's a grade two strain.
Grade one, if they just call it a strain and they don't specify, it's usually grade one,
which is, you know, the most minor version.
Grade two at least, you know, does, I think it's like some actual grade.
Like, grade one is like a stretch.
I think grade two is where you actually have like a disconnect.
Yeah.
The six to eight weeks is not an official timetable.
I kind of feel like that's just the timetable everybody goes to
when they don't have a timetable.
It's like the all-purpose timetable.
I have a rule for driving.
It takes 15 minutes to get everywhere.
And that's surprisingly true a lot of the time.
But anyway, I digress.
I'm heavily invested in Carlos Carrasco.
I have him in TGFBI.
I have him in the Memorial Magazine League,
which we, you know,
the salary cap draft we did the other day.
I thought I had him in Tau Wars too.
Thankfully, I do not.
But it's disappointing
because he's somebody I expected to draft a lot.
And maybe I still will.
I mean, if he's dropping outside the top 50,
I see him more in the 45 range.
I still think I'd take him over Fromber Valdez.
We don't really know what the timetable looks like
for Valdez either.
I imagine he'll be back.
sooner than Carrasco, but that's a vaguer one.
And plus Carasco is better.
This is why I try to over-invest in pitching,
try to get more than I actually need,
because this will not be the last injury to a high-profile pitcher,
and it won't be the worst injury to a high-profile pitcher.
There will be more.
This is the first.
Thankfully, it doesn't look like a season-ender, but there will be more.
Chris, your initial reaction here to Carlos Carrasco
and how far I dropped him in the ranks.
I mean, definitively behind, I think for sure,
Frankie Montas, Aaron Savale, that entire group.
Mike Soroka, I dropped him behind Soroka
because Soroka's going to be back sooner.
We're probably going to see him at some time in April,
not that he'll be as good as Carasco,
but if we get a whole other month or two out of Soroka,
I think that makes sense as well.
So what do you think about dropping him this far
and your reaction to Carasco?
It stinks.
I hate to see any injury,
but especially one, you know,
suffered during a,
you know,
he was like,
what,
running the bases in like a drill or something?
Um,
that stinks.
You hate to see that.
My initial thought is looking at it,
I,
I think I want to move him to 49th.
And not just because I want to be slightly more pessimistic than Frank.
Um,
one up again.
one, yeah, I'm trying to be one more pessimistic than him.
No, it's that I'm looking at my rankings and I've got maybe, maybe 46 actually,
because I've got Shohay Otani at 45.
And if Carrasco comes back in, let's say, mid-May,
I would think he'll probably get a similar number of innings for the whole season as
Shohei Otani.
And I think they'll probably be fairly similar.
You know, I think Carasco is more of a sure thing.
But Shohei Otani is currently healthy.
So I think you can kind of balance those out.
And I think, you know, that might make sense.
The other one I was thinking was like Tristan McKenzie's 51 for me.
And I know I'm higher on him than just about anyone.
And that's a similar one where I think Tristan McKenzie will probably throw a similar
number of innings for Cleveland.
And, you know, I think he's really good.
but I think 46 makes a little more sense
so just behind Shoahotani
just ahead of Marco Gonzalez
here's a question though
what's the case
I assume you guys have
Louis Severino Noah Cindergarde
and Chris Sale in like the 70 plus range
at SP at this point
what's the case for Carrasco over
Severino
it's like Severino's
healthy Severino is better
yeah I think
we don't know
that Severino is going to be healthy
even when he returns. I mean, he's
right, he had stuff even before
Tommy John. He's currently healthier.
I think Cindergarde's going to be the first one back.
Of all the Tommy John recoveries.
Cedarino's the first one to throw breaking balls, I believe,
off a mound. I think that was
today he did that for the first time. I don't think
Cindergards done that. Cindergarde,
I think he was throwing off a mound today
and the reports was like he hit 96, so he's still
clearly, you know, working his way back.
it sounds like Sale is
well behind them at this point
it might speak to them being undervalued
but I don't know
it's it's hard to have a
we're still months out for many of them returning
so it's hard in the recovery from Tommy John's surgery
to have a clear timeline for that
and the severity of the injury
I mean we don't know that they'll be exactly right
they'll be exactly themselves when they come back
when I would I would bet Carrasco is
I mean anytime you're talking
about a muscle strain with like Carasco, no matter what part of the body is, there's always
the risk of them trying to push it too hard too soon and aggravating it. But as long as, as
long as that doesn't happen, Carasco should be fine once he's recovered. And like the person
you dropped it. And you bring up a good point there with that comparison between Carasco and Tristan
McKenzie. You know, let's assume Carasco misses the first two months of the season, comes back at
start of June, you know, the inning total will probably be comparable,
but you'd always rather have the innings over a smaller sample of starts
because those starts are going to be more impactful than five-inning outings that McKinsey's
going to give you.
Yeah, we don't know, like I'm assuming Tristan McKenzie not going to be in the rotation for a
couple of months.
Or, you know, so I think it's somewhat similar.
But I will point out, you know, I looked up just at a quick Google search,
MLB grade two hamstring pull.
There's quite a number of results that came up, but one that was interesting was C.C.
Sabathia in 2017.
He was a little bit older than Carlos Carrasco.
But he had a grade two hamstring strain and he missed about 21 days, about three weeks,
it looks like.
He was out from June 13th to July 4th.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything.
But it's, if it was a mid-season injury, he was already built up.
Yeah, and there's like, you know, I think George Springer missed longer with his hamstring injury in 2019.
I know in NFL, Austin Echler missed like eight or eight to ten weeks with a grade two hamstring strain.
So even within grade two, there is, you know, room for for nuance.
and none of us are doctors anyway.
By the way, on the podcast today, outside of Carrasco,
we're going to be talking about rankings, movers,
players that we are rising up our ranks,
and players that we are also dropping.
So very irrelevant conversation here with Carasco
to figure out where we are going to be ranking him for this season
because this weekend in particular,
I assume there will be a lot of drafts going on.
I put up a poll earlier,
asking whether you would rather have
Carlos Carrasco or Framber Valdez and Scott,
you already answered this question.
and you said you would still rather have Carrasco.
What do you think the results of that poll were?
Well, I participated in it, so I have a pretty good idea.
It was close, but Carasco was ahead.
What do you think, Chris?
I think it was close, but Carasco was ahead.
So where 346 votes in, and Framber Valdez is leading the poll.
50%, 50.6%.
So just barely.
But it tells you, I mean, knowing what we know now,
which is not really much about Framber Valdez
outside of the fact that he is not going to have surgery.
Whatever, it's 350 people on Twitter,
so it doesn't matter that much.
But it's interesting to see how people are feeling about news
as soon as it happens.
So there's always an initial reaction
that's much stronger than, you know,
I think what might end up being the case at least.
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If you were drafting this weekend,
the one player you must have is blank.
Chris, fill in the blank.
I might be able to fill it in for you.
Byron Buckson.
It's not Byron Buckson because he, you know, I didn't draft.
I did draft him in today's draft.
He is one of my most, he's probably my most drafted player now because I didn't draft Ian Anderson.
But I would say Ian Anderson comes closer to being a must draft for me.
It actually might be Max Scher.
I that's that's threading a needle there it is um but I just I'm only concerned about injury
with him like given the fact that his velocity was fine last year his peripherals were
mostly fine there was a little bit of increase in walk rate um which was uncharacteristic
I and the fact that he's been amazing in spring uncharacteristically as well it just makes
me think as long as he's on the mound, he's going to be one of the four best pitchers in
baseball. And you can get him for cheaper than that. And he's fully capable, as we know,
throwing 200 innings. So when you say must draft, let's say you pick an 11th of 12th.
Do you take him at the start? That makes it hard. Yeah, but that that's always the thing with like
an early round draft pick. It's a lot easier to say, I must draft Byron Buxton because I can just
take him from any spot. Yeah. My mind immediately went to like late rounders because I
actually have more control over that.
And I may surprise you with this answer
because someone we've hardly
talked about. Oh, juicy.
Let's go.
I think the player I will be most disappointed
if I don't draft is Thai
France of the
Seattle Mariners who is having
I've grown more interested in him as time has gone on.
Yeah, yeah. He's having a bonker spring.
He's a guy, by the way, who hit
399 at AAA two years ago.
with an OPS approaching 1,300,
which, you know, it was the PCL,
it was a juiced ball,
but regardless, nobody else in the PCL
with the juiced ball was doing that.
I don't think Ty France is a 400 hitter in the majors,
but I do think he's a good hitter.
Last year he hit over 300.
I think he has power, potentially 30 homer power,
safer to say 20, but potentially 30 homer power.
He's going to play every day primarily at DH,
but they're also going to give him time at second
where he's already eligible first and third.
So he's going to be a multi-eligible player,
I think a third of the way through the season.
He'll have that.
Late round batting average help, like I said,
and I think a higher ceiling than his ADP is giving him credit for.
So, you know, in those shallower leagues, like I had to have points league,
that's somebody I could see myself taken with my very last pick
and deeper rotissory leagues.
you know, my second or third to last pick.
And I expect to be heavily invested in him going into the season.
You know, in looking at my most drafted players column that came out on CBS Sports.com yesterday,
I think I'll go a little later than Max Scherzer and that's Zach Rankie, who I'm drafting,
he's been on four of my 13 teams so far.
And I'm drafting him 70th overall on average,
compared to a 107 ADP.
So that's probably the actual answer
is if there's one guy I'm going to reach on,
it's probably Zach Granky.
The oldies, I appreciate it
because we talked about prospects on yesterday's podcast
and let's show some love to the veterans as well
that might be able to get it done this season also.
Chris, I've noticed that some of the rotations
you've been drafting are you'll have Scherzer and Granky
but then you'll pair them up with some young guys,
like a Sixto Sanchez or Sandy Alcantara.
Are you consciously doing that to get some young upside with the older guys?
Yeah, it's not Sixtho Sanchez.
It's Ian Anderson.
I think my ideal rotation front four is Scherzer, Granky,
Ian Anderson, and Sandy Alcantara,
because that's three guys, I think, could throw 200 innings.
Three guys who I think could be truly elite on an intercourse.
a per inning basis.
And then Alcantara, I just think he's rock solid.
And we're going to talk about Alcantara in a little bit because he is moving up.
I think all of our rankings, Scott for sure, sent that over.
So we will talk about Alcantara in a little bit.
Marcus Stroman, haven't talked about him much.
I think he's kind of overlooked.
All throughout the draft season, I've thought to myself, you know, he's just undervalued.
I think he's undervalued.
He might not be flashy, but I'm growing more interested in Stroman because
he has this new split change up that he's talking about.
He's getting more whiffs, more strikeouts in spring.
Not that I want to be influenced too much.
I've moved him up slightly to SP 48,
so he is inside my top 50 starting pitchers now.
But someone who routinely in the past has gone deep into his starts,
he's going to have a pretty good offense,
solid run support with the New York Mets as well.
Tougher division, but I think, yeah,
I think wins are going to be a good possibility for him.
And I am growing excited about Marcus Schroeman on Thursday
against the Nationals five-ennings.
two hits, one earned, zero walks, six strikeouts.
He has more strikeouts than endings pitched in the spring.
Here's the problem I have with Stroman.
His whip, the past four seasons,
131, 148, 131, 129.
Now, maybe he becomes not so ground ball reliant
with that new pitch,
becomes more of a strikeout pitcher,
and the whole profile changes.
It's possible.
I'd bet against it as long as his track record is,
and like those kind of whips with the pitching staff I plan to have.
Like that's going to be a guy who just pulls that stat down for me.
So, you know, if you're not as invested in pitching, I think Stroman makes sense.
But if you try to invest a lot in pitching like I do, I just like that's a guy I just have no interest in.
That's a fair point on the whip.
And similar to Dallas Kikel, we talk about as another innings eater type.
He's had very high whips in the past four or five seasons for him as well.
the three of the past four years for
Schroman, 184 or more
innings pitch. So in a year
where we are looking for some volume, he
sat out last year, some might look at that
as a as a flaw.
Oh, well, how many endings is he going to throw this year?
I mean, he's a veteran. He's done it before. I think
the year off might actually help him. He might be
fresher. Yeah. I like it more
on points leagues. Yeah, I think
the more relevant thing is
have you done it before than what did you do
last season in terms of innings?
Let's move over to some of the
those rankings movers, players that are rising up the ranks. And we'll start with some of these
for you, Scott. And Austin Meadows, I mean, I don't want to say, I told you so, but kind of told you
so. He has been pretty good so far in the spring. He has five hits, five for 20, so it's not,
he hasn't been amazing. Four of those hits have gone for home run. So I think that we are a little bit
more excited because of that. He also had a steal the other day, a home run and a steal in the same game.
Do you remember what we called that last year, Skok?
got something dumb.
Was it a sweet and savory?
A sweet and savory. Chris, I don't know if you were around for that.
What do you think? A home run and a steal in the same game, a sweet and savory.
Okay. That makes sense. Sure.
All right. I'll take any support I could get because not a lot of people liked it.
Yeah, Meadows has an 083 Babbitt in spring. So, you know, feel a little better about that low batting average, Frank.
Got one hit on 12 balls and play.
It doesn't matter right now.
I did the math wrong.
It doesn't matter what your Babbap is when everything goes over the fence, Chris.
1250.
No, 1, 125.
I'm saying that's a good thing.
That bolsters your case.
That's right.
When that Babbap normalizes, he's going to be hitting like 400.
Scott, tell us how high you're moving Austin Meadows up your outfield ranks.
The one that I'm wrestling with right now is him versus his teammate, Randy or Rosa Rana.
And that's where I kind of draw the line,
Where are you?
Yeah, it's interesting.
I have a raised cluster there because Brandon Lowe,
mostly because of his second base eligibility,
is in that same range.
Trying to find where I have Meadows now.
Okay, so I've moved Meadows up above them.
I actually have him as high as 16th.
I guess I already made the move to move him up
because I can't move him up any more than that.
He's 16th in my outfield rankings.
But in between Nick Castellanos,
who is right behind Luis Robert.
Oh, this is head-to-head.
hang on let me check roto
okay 18th
for Austin Meadows
but still behind Nick Castiana's
right behind him ahead of
Erasurana
ahead of Brandon
Lau Charlie Blackburn
Michael Conforto
I drafted him today
in the head to head categories
Machwe did I drafted him with the first pick
of round eight
I chose him over Trent Grisham
because I already had a lot of stolen bases
and I chose him over
a fourth starting pitcher, which I may regret,
but that's what I chose to do in that draft,
because it seemed like good value,
round eight in the categories league.
Speaking of Trent...
He looks good.
Speaking of Trent Grisham,
I have dropped him a little bit to my...
to outfield 20,
just dealing with this hamstring injury.
It seems like he should be good to go for opening day,
but just a little tentative based on this hamstring.
I guess there's still a chance he could start the year on the IEL.
You know what's interesting is...
We talk about how second base is weak all the time.
So I got to elevate all these second basemen in my rankings.
I just type Thai France, who I think is going to be multi-eligible, but currently only second base.
I love Brendan Rogers.
I've talked about him a few times.
I love him as a breakout candidate.
Jonathan India, I think, is an interesting slipper who's going to pick up second base for the Reds if they stick with this Suarez to shortstop plan.
I like Jorge Polanco as a sleeper who's going to pick up second base.
I think he's a strong bounceback candidate for the twins.
Like I like so many late round second baseman
That if I plan on drafting two or three of them
Like I don't know that I need to invest in second base at all
That's I'm kind of I'm kind of frustrating
With how many second basemen I'm ending up with every draft
And like I would you did you mention Tommy Lestella
I didn't I'm not really on board with that but well I think he's gonna bat lead off
In spring he's batting lead off against lefties and righties
pretty much every game that he's in.
So I think it is every game that he's in.
That would be great if he plays every day.
I'm still skeptical.
And then also left-handed hitter at San Francisco.
I mean,
maybe those archways are covered again.
The power was fine.
But it was already a slim margin he was working with with the power.
Yeah,
I'm not expecting him to be a 25 homer guy.
But I think if he hits 16 homers and bats close to 300,
like I'm okay with that if he's batting lead off.
Nick Solac, someone we liked a lot last year, Gavin Lux,
who I think is still being overlooked.
It's not, I don't know, second base is weak,
but it's also got a pretty solid top 11.
I've got 11 second basement in my top 100.
Also, Bobby Witt didn't mention him.
He might be the most type of all the, again,
doesn't have second right away,
but if he makes the team, it'll be the starting second basement.
Brandon Rogers, Andres Jimenez is second base eligible.
Yeah.
And I may be alone on this one, but if I ended up with Colton Wong in my starting second baseman in a Roto league, I think I'm okay with that.
He's going to bat high in that order.
He's, you know, can hit 265 and steal 15 to 20 bases in the right scenario.
So, yeah.
Second base is it's the worst non-catcher position.
but assuming, I mean, we don't know about the batted ball or the dejuiced ball.
And home runs are happening at a higher rate than ever so far this spring.
So I'm skeptical that they're using it or if they are using it,
it's going to be even we're even we expected.
So, you know, I think that's kind of the big thing.
Second base would be the position most impacted by a dejuiced ball.
You mentioned a few names more for the elite guys.
You mentioned a few names there, Chris, that I've also moved up the ranks.
Andres Jimenez at second base, I moved up to 15th.
And he's better for Roto, but could give you 10 to 15 home runs, 20 plus deals.
And it's not just that he's having a great spring, which he is.
We have, we got confirmation that he will be the starting shortstop for the Cleveland Indian.
So he'll have that, I think it's second shortstop and third base eligibility at some point.
So that's very valuable.
I think he already has that on CBS.
And Colton Wong, I moved up to my 17th ranked second basement just ahead of Jake Cronoworth, Chris Taylor, Gavin Lux.
I'm with you. If he remains in the leadoff spot for the Brewers and he hits, he could score 90 plus runs.
That is a very undervalued asset. Someone who's rising for you, Chris, is Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Is this all-spring training base? Because he has been awesome as well. He is 9-417 in the spring with five walks to two shrines.
You like that plate discipline.
And I believe it was of the 12 batted balls that have been tracked by Stackcast,
he has a, I think it was like a 19 degree launch angle, which would be by far the highest of his career.
Yeah, I, um, I'm trying to look up that that up now.
But for me, it's mostly like, oh, he's lost weight.
Cool.
Great.
That's good for him.
He, you know, his clothes probably fit better.
His profile looks better.
I'm trying to be there right with you, Vlidito.
but I don't really care until I see some results from it.
And we're seeing in the spring, he's hitting the crap out of the ball,
which we know he can hit the ball hard.
He hits the ball.
You know, he's kind of just shy of John Carlos Stanton
in terms of elite max exit Velo.
And now he does appear to be hitting the ball in the air more.
And that's the key.
Like if he, he doesn't have to be Joey Gallo,
but if he just consistently hits more line drives and ground balls than,
or line drives and fly balls than ground balls,
the talent is otherworldly.
And so now that we're starting to see some evidence of it,
I'm,
I don't think I've drafted him yet and I need to at some point.
This is one of those FOMO situations.
That's how I felt right towards the end of draft season last year about Luis Robert
and he's crushing balls in summer camp.
And yeah, Vlad, it could happen.
We know he's a big upside guy.
It hasn't happened yet one of these years.
It's probably going to happen.
Best shape of his life.
And yeah, you really did.
You moved them up to your sixth ranked first baseman
just ahead of Luke Voight,
Matt Olson, and Paul Goldschmidt.
He is eighth for Scott at first base.
He is seventh for me.
Let's jump back over here.
Sandy Alcantara, we spoke about him yesterday, Scott,
and how awesome he looked against,
I believe it was the Mets,
nine strikeouts over five innings,
14 whiffs on 64 pitches.
He did enough to be named
the opening day starter for the Miami Marlins.
I have moved him up to SP 37,
so he's a riser for me,
just ahead of Dylan Bundy.
How far are you moving Alcansara up the ranks?
Let's see.
So I actually have Bundy 29th,
so I have Bundy much higher.
I'm thinking
36, moving him ahead of Corbin,
who I need to move down, Patrick Corbyn,
moving Alcantara ahead of his teammate,
Sixthos Sanchez,
moving him ahead of Sunny Gray,
who is going to be an entry into my bus 3.0 column.
Coming out tomorrow, Vladimir Guerrero, by the way,
being removed from my bus.
So, yeah, 36, that puts him just behind
Charlie Morton and Lance McCullors.
I like McCullors a lot.
He's a breakout for me this year, as Alcantara now is too.
So it would be a close call between those two.
But I think I'm going to stick with McCullors ahead of Alcantara.
I slot him in there at 36.
That's exactly where I was too, Scott.
I like McCullors a good amount.
Sandy Alcantar is young enough where he can still progress to a point that we haven't seen yet before.
So I don't want to discount that possibility.
but yeah, I kind of, I drew the line there with McCullors.
Chris, who would you rather have between Sandy Alcantara and McCullors?
Yeah, I have McCullors where you guys have him.
He's 36 for me, so right in that same range, but I've got Alcantara 32.
And, Homer?
I mean, I think anyone who knows me and how I feel and talk about the Marlins should be pretty, like,
I never liked Alcantara.
an awful return for Marcelo Zuna.
I admit, I kind of look like an idiot for that one,
because he looks really good.
Zach Allen came back too.
Oh, wait.
Hey, they got Jess Chisselm.
You know, Sandy Alcantara and Jess Chislem is pretty cool.
No, like Alcantara has a 372 ERA in 2019 and 2020.
Now, he has a 440 FIP, so you can just kind of write that off if you want.
But he's consistently outperformed his FIP in the major leagues.
He is really hard to square up.
And last season, the walk rate and strike outweight rate improved.
And it was only seven games, small sample size caveats all around.
But the swing strike rate on his changeup and slider both improved.
He's throwing more four-seem fastballs this spring with the intention of getting more swinging strikes.
There's never any question about the quality of the stuff.
Yeah. Actually, that nine strikeout game he had, was it yesterday?
Most of the whiffs, I think he had seven whiffs on a sinker.
And he was kind of doing a little bit of, I think that's what I saw.
And he was doing a little bit of the Androhini.
I thought it was the curveball. I thought the curveball was the one getting all the whiffs.
I thought he had a ton of wiffs on the on the.
Is there somewhere you can look that up?
Because I don't.
Yeah, I'll look for it.
It's on baseball savant.
I'll pull it up for you.
If you keep talking, Chris.
I keep trying to find that number on baseball savon.
I can't find it.
They redesigned their stuff.
You got to go to player breakdowns.
He had...
Why do they keep changing it?
I like it.
They're adding more stuff.
Let them be.
Yeah, he had five whiffs on 18 sinkers.
Yesterday, he had two on the four seamer, five on the changeup, three on the curveball.
Yeah.
One on the slider.
Fantastic.
Oh, I was understanding.
That kind of goes against the narrative of him.
You know, he's talked about how he's talked about how he's,
needs to throw his four seamer more.
His four seamer had the same swinging strike rate
as Max Scherzer's last year, basically.
It's a really good swing and miss pitch
for a four seamer.
So I was largely crediting that
for what we're seeing this spring.
I don't know.
I need to show me how to look into that data.
It's just one start.
He does have 19 strikeouts
in 12 and 2 thirds innings so far this spring.
Yeah, eight walks.
That's not great.
But I think five of them came in one outing.
So it's, you know, that kind of thing can skew your numbers.
I just think he's really solid.
I think he's probably in the top 10 or 15 most likely pitchers to throw 200 innings this season.
Yeah.
Well, that's an advantage he has over McCullors for sure.
That's kind of why I'm hesitating on it because all but one of his starts,
it was an injury short in season.
All but one of his starts were six plus last year, Alcantara's.
And I think he had 11 starts of 7 plus in 2019.
Yeah, 2019 down the stretch especially.
He was racking up huge inning totals.
His last 10 starts, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 of them, 7 of his last 10 starts were 7 plus innings.
And all but 1 were at least 6.
And that 1 was a 5 and 2 3rds innings game.
Partially, I think he had a really low babb up in that stretch.
But the control was better in that time.
And I think, you know, Frank, you and I mentioned it in a podcast last week.
The comp is peak Carlos Martinez.
Never an elite strikeout rate guy.
But if he can keep that walk rate to like 3, 3.2 per 9,
I think he's going to be really solid.
Well, that's the next step of his progression, Chris.
If he gets his walks below 3 per 9,
then we could really see a breakout season
because he's going deep into his starts,
even walking guys as much as he does.
If he cuts those walks down just a little bit, and he's going to be more efficient, he's going to go deeper into starts.
And that could even lead to more strikeouts as well for him. So again, that was Sandy Alcantara. We've been talking about him a lot recently, but I think for good reason, he's looked really good in the spring and should give you a lot of volume this season as well. We are going to hit a quick break. But I want to remind everyone that the deadline to get your podcast listener league submissions in is next week on Tuesday. So we already have a ton of great Photoshop's.
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Let's quickly hit on a few more of these risers and fullers.
The last one we talked about was Sandy Alcantara.
Chris, I know that you've been on Ketel Marte all spring,
even before spring.
You were all over that.
But he's looked even better.
So how much more can you actually justify moving him up the ranks?
There's no limit.
Okay, so he'll be a first round pick soon?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's clearly the case.
Yeah, he's 45, well, 45 for me in Roto leagues.
He's basically back where he was last year for you.
Yeah, and that, that just kind of highlights my confidence level in him.
I've talked about him a lot.
If he finished as the number one second baseman this season,
it wouldn't shock me even a little bit.
I think him and DJ Lemay,
who actually have very similar skill sets.
I think I'd probably take Marte to get more home runs and stolen bases.
So it mostly comes down to, you know, the runs in RBI, I think will be in LeMayhew's favor because of that lineup.
But I think it's going to be really close.
And, you know, that's why I'm perfectly happy to pass on LeMayhew and Albies in particular.
particular. I'll take what Maryfield
for the stolen bases, but
you know, I'm
really happy to get Catel Marte
is my second base. Maybe it said on a previous show, but
why are you so confident
the power is coming back? Because two home
runs and 181 at Bats last year
an ex-lug of 375.
Yep.
He was dealing with a wrist injury last season.
He
had the fifth highest
max exit Velo
in the entire league last
season, which is frankly
stunning.
It is.
A,
stat cast didn't seem to care when
setting his ex-slug
to be to home runs.
Yeah, his hard hit rate was lower.
His average
age of velocity was lower,
but he still hit
a bunch of balls in that 110,
115 mile per hour range.
And so far in the spring,
I haven't looked at in a few days,
but earlier this week he was leading all players who were tracked,
which is only 10 of the 30 parks.
But he had the most batted balls over 110 miles an hour,
and I think he had one that was like 116,
which is elite for anyone not named Vlad or Junkarlow.
So, yeah, I just, plate discipline's excellent.
He's going to hit for a high average,
and I believe in the power.
I think he's a legitimate power hitter.
And last season was just weird.
You know, like, you can have a, he only played like 40 games or something.
You can have a 40 game stretch where you only hit two home runs and still be a good power hitter.
Yeah.
And I really do think that the wrist hampered his season.
So I'm, I'm buying in more on Catell-Cathe.
Current ADP on Fantasy Pros is 77.2.
He's not in the fourth round of my rankings like he is for Chris, but I would be willing to
willing to pull him up one round higher than his ADP right now to ensure that I get him.
Because again, second base, we have some sleepers, but you want a potential impact bat.
I think Citell could be one of those.
Scott, let's talk about a few of these lower end players that you've been moving up the ranks.
And let's focus on two Rockies here, Brendan Rogers and C.J. Cron.
Crone is having a monster spring.
He's 10 for 31, two home runs.
First base competition there with the Rockies.
Seems like he is close to locking that up.
So talk to me about these Rockies, Crone and Rogers.
Yeah, I just, I mean, CJ Crona,
you could have argued that was a position battle
at the start of the spring,
and it's just clear that he's the guy
at first base for the Rockies.
And, you know, currently I have them behind guys
like Jamer Candelario, Brandon Belt, Renato Nunez.
And so I never have a chance at him in Dress.
And that's silly because, you know, C.J. Cron, you know,
he's been a power hitter for most of his major league.
career. He's had a surprisingly good
contact rate too, and
that's going to Coorsfield.
I think
sometimes it
doesn't...
There's kind of a misconception that it's all about
adding power, but the biggest thing
Coorsfield does is add batting average
because the outfield is so big.
Everybody's
bad bit gets boosted like
I don't know exactly how much
30 to 50 points. It gets boosted a lot.
So, you know, it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Krohn is a 300 hitter this year with power in that park.
Rogers, obviously he has the Coorsfield thing going for him as well,
but he was a stud prospect until the injury troubles of the past two years.
And he's dealing with a bit of a hamstring thing.
Now it doesn't sound like it's going to keep him out for the start of the season.
He was hitting really well this spring before that.
He said he wanted to steal 20 bases this year,
in addition to everything he does with the bat.
So he seems like the epitome of a post-type sleeper to me
because his ADP's around 400 or something.
Nobody seems to want him, and they should.
Scott, how far are you moving CJ Crone up?
Because I don't, unless you were leaving him at 32,
I feel like you're probably going to move him up higher than that.
Like, how high are we going?
We're talking like Yule Gerell.
range for CJ Cron.
I mean, if you gave me the choice,
I'd want him over Guriel.
Let me see who else that's putting him ahead of.
That would move him ahead of Croninworth,
Bobby Dalbeck, Hunter Dozier.
Yeah, I want him more than Christian Walker.
I think 22nd seems about right.
I need to get him up there behind Jared Walsh
and ahead of Christian Walker.
Again, that is CJ Crone,
who looks like he is going to wrap up the Rockies
starting first base job.
Chris will go back to some of your risers here.
Aaron Hicks, you've been adamant about all
off season.
Let's pair these two up together.
Aaron Hicks and Aaron Savale, the A.A.
Ron's.
I haven't heard, I mean, I know why I like Savali,
but I haven't heard your reasoning for why
you are buying in on Savale as well.
So talk to me about the A.A.
Rons.
Same reason for Savale.
You know, I think this new arm path
that he's introduced,
you know, it's all about shortening the
path. I think he's throwing from a little bit of a higher arm angle. And he's talking about,
you know, focusing on his foreseamer more. And that is, you know, when you're coming from a high
arm slot, you're going to have, you should have better spin efficiency, which is one of these
newfangled terms, but it basically just how much of your spin matters in terms of the movement of
the pitch. And those are things that matter for getting whiffs. He's got great control. He's got
got a deep arsenal.
He's got this new, it's a splitter, right,
that he's introducing?
I think it's, yeah, split change.
But without that, he already had four or five pages.
Yeah, he had a change up.
I think he's throwing his change up like a splitter now.
And those two pitches can often be interchangeable.
So I, you know, he was solid in 2019.
And in 2020, his ERA will,
was like right around four until his last start of the season, I believe. He got bombed in that last
start. Yeah, it was 3.99 before that start and it boosted up to I think 4.82 to wrap up the
season. And it came against the pirates, which was the worst of all. I remember it too. Scott and I were
suggesting pitchers to start for the weekend streamers. I was like, yeah, Savale, man. He's going up
against the pirates.
If you started him,
you might have cost...
It was kind of shaky before that, though, too.
Yeah, he was.
Really a six-start stretch.
For sure.
Yeah.
It's hard to trust.
Yeah, and I think, you know,
it's fair to wonder whether he has enough stuff.
You know, given, like,
there's always this balance between throwing in the strike zone.
Like, it's the command versus control thing.
Does he really have great command or does he just have,
does he throw a lot of strikes?
And those aren't the same things.
Uh, pitch out of the strike zone.
can be a very good pitch sometimes.
And there are, you know, I have similar concerns about Pleasak.
And I view Pleasac and Savale fairly similarly.
It's just, you know, I diverge from the consensus on both in.
Savali's going 100 picks later almost.
Yeah.
It's much easier to get him than Pleasack.
I'm taking Savale out of Bus 3.02.
Yeah, let's go.
Well, it sounds like he's making such radical changes, his delivery and a new change.
up.
That's,
that nobody wants him.
That could be a profile
changer, you know,
like,
it's cheap.
We don't even,
I don't even really know
what Aaron Savali is anymore
with those changes.
So,
I know he has a really good curveball,
and I'm probably not going to draft him much
because somebody else is going to be more enthusiastic,
but I don't feel comfortable,
like saying don't draft him anymore either.
A few risers for me that I haven't mentioned yet.
Gary Tanch as I moved up to my fifth rank catcher
just ahead of,
Travis Darno, I think Sanchez has about as much upside as anyone at the position.
He also probably has as much downside as anyone at the position.
Bobby Witt, I finally got in the shortstop ranks.
He is ranked 28th as of now, just behind Willie Castro.
But if they announce he will be on the opening day roster, then Bobby Witt is probably
inside my top 20 short stops.
So I will make that change.
And man, I look like such a homer.
I didn't even plan this.
I have moved Domingo Hermann up to SP 64.
He's been lights out in the spring.
Nine shutout innings,
13 strikeouts to one walk.
And he throws this curveball,
36% of the time back in 2019.
Domingo Hermon had a 20% swinging strike rate
on that pitch alone.
So he gets a lot of whiffs,
and obviously the run support
could get a lot of wins there
with the New York Yankees as well.
Quickly I just mentioned some fall orders.
Scott, you have Craig Kimball
who is dropping in the ranks.
but just how far, because I'm trying to figure out,
you're probably moving behind Ryan Presley, right?
But then you get to Devin Williams and Nick Anderson
and Will Smith and I mean, Kimberl probably has more,
definitely has more job security than those other guys.
They don't even have a job.
So how far are you dropping Craig Kimbril?
Maybe Chris won't like this,
but I want to drop Kimbril far enough that I don't get him, basically.
He hasn't been a good closer since 2018,
and he's having more delivery issues this spring.
And so I don't trust him to get it turned around quickly enough.
I think he's capable still.
I think the stuff is more or less there,
but he's just having trouble finding the groove he needs to be in,
to be effective.
And, like, you don't get along leashes a closer ever.
So I definitely move him behind Will Smith,
and Amir Garrett,
probably behind like Rafael Montero,
probably down to like 19th in my rankings,
which is kind of in that Greg Holley territory.
And then hope I don't face the prospect of having to decide
in the draft whether I should take him there.
Damn. All right.
A fall from grace for one, Craig Kimbril.
For Chris, a few followers here,
Cody Bellinger, who did hit a towering home run
in spring training on Thursday.
I have no idea how he got it out.
It's like 41-degree launch angle.
It looked like a pop-up, and it just kept going.
So you like to see that if you drafted Cody Bellinger.
Patrick Corbyn, I assume that's for velocity reasons.
Chris, that makes sense.
Kevin Galsman, why is he dropping falling in your ranks?
It sounds like he's not going to start throwing his splitter until the regular season.
And he is not a good pitcher if he's not throwing his splitter.
Sure.
To, you know, to not mince words, I guess.
So, yeah, I just, he's just not thrown in and spring it all.
It's the same thing that's been happening in years past.
He's talked about it in the past where I think the main issue was blisters.
And he wants to build up his finger strength to be able to throw the splitter consistently.
And this was an issue in his Baltimore days where he would not throw the splitter until like his last start of spring training and then come out of the gate.
with hype because he closed the previous season strong
and get bombed for the first month or two.
And I'm just worried that that's what we're going to see again.
Oh, it's a good point that you bring up.
Dom Smith is currently dealing with a wrist injury.
Were you dropping him because of that injury, Chris,
or were you worried about playing time even before that?
Yeah, I think there are more questions about his bat
than his initial price indicated.
and he just might not be playable defensively out in the outfield.
And I don't think they're going to sit P. Alonzo, nor should they.
So, yeah, he might not be an everyday player.
I like him.
I'm starting to wonder, like, should we get back into J.D. Davis?
Is he going to play more than Dom Smith?
He hasn't done anything in the spring either.
JD Davis, that is.
Yeah.
But that, yeah, it's more pessimism about Dom Smith than anything else.
It's so tough, too, because I love the player, man.
I think, Dom Smith, you know, since the start of 2019, 139 games, 299 batting average, 21 home runs, 937 OPS.
Stackast was off the charts last year for this guy.
304 expected batting average, 95th percentile, 568 expected slug, 943rd.
percentile. And he can hit lefties. Dom Smith is really, really awesome. And it's a sucks that this
wrist injury is coming at a terrible time right before the season starts. And here's, the Mets just,
they always find a way to do something like this. It's frustrating. One thing I would point out,
and this is not necessarily an argument that Dom Smith is bad. It's just putting it out there.
JD Davis in 2019 had an 895 OPS in 453 plate appearances.
in 2019 and 2020,
Dom Smith has 396 plate appearances.
He has 40 fewer plate appearances,
basically,
than J.D. Davis had in 2019.
And we saw J.D. Davis's 2019
was not necessarily reflective of his performance in 2020.
I think he can bounce back.
But their numbers are actually shockingly similar
across those two sample sizes.
And so it's just a warning that,
despite the fact that we are talking, like, what Dom Smith has done over the last two seasons,
it's two-thirds of an actual season's worth of plate appearances. We're still talking about,
like, it's too early to say if we know who Dom Smith is. It's fair. I mean, he comes with
some prospect pedigree too. It took him a couple of years, and I would lean towards he's closer to
this player. I mean, is he a 900 plus OPS bad? I mean, that's, that's, you know, that's elite
territory. Yeah, I think more like 860.
but that would be really awesome if he played every day.
I just, I'm not convinced he will.
Well, we're 55 minutes in.
It seems like a good time to talk about news and notes.
I mean, there wasn't really much news outside of Carlos Carrasco.
Anyway, I mentioned Cody Bellinger.
He went two for four on Thursday with three hard hit balls,
according to Stackcast, including a home run.
Scott, I know you wrote about Cody Bellinger's new batting stance recently in your spring notebook.
Is there anything you would like to highlight there?
Not really, just that it's another variable that's just,
who knows, who knows.
It's a lot like what he had as a rookie in 2017
when he won rookie of the year,
but he was a more one-dimensional hitter
than, you know, the guy we saw in 2019,
so I don't know.
I don't know. I just don't want to go near that
with the second round price tag right now.
Denelson Lemette threw two in a simulated game
on Thursday. It's still unclear whether or not
he will be ready for opening day.
and we mentioned that when talking about McKenzie Gore
on Thursday's podcast.
Scott, you have Lament up at SP 23 in your ranks.
Chris has him at SP 36.
I have him at SP 33.
This is Lament.
Do you plan to drop him or because that still seems pretty high?
That sounds high.
Yeah, I'm surprised I hadn't lowered him yet.
No, he shouldn't be that high.
Shouldn't be that.
He should be outside of my top 30 for sure.
I would take him over Keraska.
I would take him over from Bravades.
What's weird is, I have him 36, he's 119 in my overall rankings.
And there have been several drafts in the last week or so
where he's actually been the top player or top starting pitcher on my board,
which is kind of interesting that there's been a lot of downward movement for him.
Noah Sindergarde, we mentioned this already,
but he's working his way back from Tommy John.
He threw a bullpen session on Thursday,
and apparently was hitting 96 miles per hour,
even though he was not throwing at 100%.
Steven Strassberg will throw a four-ending simulated game on Friday.
He had no issues in a bullpen session on Wednesday.
Chris, if you are drafting this weekend,
are you still taking Schrosberg around his current ADP,
which is 63.4?
Or would you be willing to pay the $22 price tag
that he went for in our salary cap draft this past week?
So $80P 63, $22.
Would you spend it on?
That all sounds a little expensive to me, and I would probably pass, but I would guess you're not going to actually have to spend a 64 overall pick to get him right now.
This is one of those things.
You're taking Carasco out of that range.
Yeah, but this is one of those things where, like, I saw some comments in the FBT Facebook group that were like, oh, great, here we go again with Strasbourg.
And like, I get it.
Yes, he has been injured every single season.
for like two in his entire career.
He's never had a leg injury.
He's never gone on the IL for a leg injury
or a lower body injury of any sort.
This isn't same old Strasbourg.
Like, I don't believe that there is like,
like he got...
And Chris has gone.
There is at least a 50% chance
that his cat disconnected something
because his cat was all up in his face right now
for those that are watching.
If you're listening,
give you a little bit of a visual there.
So Strasbourg,
Chris isn't as worried because it's a leg injury, but I think it's still kind of worrisome.
It's a calf.
Yeah, I'm not downgrading him because of the injury.
It sounds like he's fine.
So, you know, if you don't trust Straussberg to stay healthy in general, if you don't trust him to be good in general, that's, you know, I think those are arguments that could be made.
But this spring, this spring injury sounds like a nothing burger to me.
Chris, are you all right?
Did David Bowie disconnect something?
She's really on one.
And it's like, just don't step on my keyboard.
Like whatever else you want to do, just like, I'm sure you have.
She closed the browser is what happens.
So I'm, yeah, I'm frustrated.
But to go back to what I was saying, to continue the conversation,
I don't believe Steven Straussberg has like a calcium deficiency or whatever the
muscular and tendron version of calcium is.
that makes him
Did you just make a word up?
I don't know, maybe.
You know, like I don't think there's some mechanism in his body that makes like,
oh, his elbow gets hurt a lot.
And also it makes his calf more likely to get hurt.
Like this was just a weird thing.
He's never had a history of this kind of injury.
And the fact that he seems fine,
I think you should probably be putting him back where he was pre-caf thing.
This isn't really a news item, but it's just an update on Kesson Hira,
who throughout the spring has played in 11 games.
He is 4 for 26 with 11 strikeouts and just one walk.
So a strikeout per game for Kesson Hira.
You hate to see it.
Let's just wrap up here.
A lot of people I've been emailing in and asking,
please talk about players who are better in OBP category leagues
instead of batting average.
So let's wrap here.
These are the ones I plugged in the projections from ATC
and these were the biggest risers that I can find in dollar value in OBP leagues.
Yasmani Grandal at the catcher position.
This is first batting average, of course.
Anthony Rizzo, Reese Hoskins, Kevin Biggio,
Marcus Semyon, Alex Bregman, Chris Bryant, Matt Chapman,
Bryce Harper, probably a borderline first round pick in an OBP League.
Marcel Ozuna, George Springer, Joey Gallo,
Max Kepler, Andrew McCutcheon, and Aaron Hicks.
it's not completely translatable, Scott, but
I think players who see
a rise in OBP leagues, it also
factors into head to head points. So I think that's
easily translatable. There's a strong correlation
there between players who rise in OVP
category leagues and players who rise in points.
I'm surprised Max Muncie
wasn't among them. He's like the first name that
came to mind for me. Muncie should have been. I probably
missed him. Did you say, Judge?
I did not. He should be on this list as well. Yeah. I mean,
he's fine in batting average, but he's
you know, can be elite in on-base percentage.
And Carlos Santana, you know, he ends up being like a 350-ish OPP
because the batting average is so low, but he walks a lot.
So it definitely helps his value when it's OBP rather than batting average.
I think you can make the case for Mike Trout and Juan Soto as the number,
an overall player in on-based percentage leagues.
I think you could probably still lean O'Kunea just because he did see a pretty
significant increase in his walk rate last season that hopefully is sustainable.
But, you know, Trout is the odds on favor to lead the league and on base percentage.
I think he's done in the American League like four or five straight years or something like that.
Mark Kana, if you have any hope for him rebounding power-wise.
Even last year, didn't hit that well.
Still almost reach a base at like a 390 clip.
Players who lose.
Yeah.
Nimmo for sure.
It sounds like he is going to start
even against left-handed pitching as well.
Oh, really?
I haven't heard that.
Yeah, he's been starting against left-handed pitching
in spring.
That actually makes me feel worse about
Dominic Smith's chances.
Because they got those two,
they got Kevin Pilar there, you know?
Yeah.
But it's got to play something.
Oh, man.
Somebody free, Dom Smith.
This is so frustrating to me.
Players who lose value in OBP leagues
instead of batting average formats,
Salvador Perez,
not walk much. Jose Ibrahimirio, Whitmerfield, Adelberto Mondes, Javier Baez, Tim Anderson,
Eloy Jimenez. The White Sox don't walk very much. Byron Buxton, Eddie Rosario, and Victor
Robles. Scott, anyone else come to mind that would lose value in an OBP format?
Well, pretty much my whole Tout Wars team, because... I mean, I think you can even look at some
higher-end guys like, DJ Lemieux, probably loses a little value.
in an OVP league because he goes from, you know,
potentially the best in the game in batting average to above average,
but not great by any stretch of the imagination in on-base percentage.
You know, he's probably going to be like a 355 on-base percentage guy.
Rafael Devers.
Yeah, he doesn't walk a ton.
He's, you know, 6, 7%, but definitely could be better.
We, let's talk about this a little bit more next week, Chris,
because you brought up something that,
kind of got the wheels turning in my head
was especially for someone like
LaMayhew in Roto, part of why he's so good
in batting average is the volume two, right?
So it's the plate appearances,
but it's how many hits he gets. It's not just because
his batting average is the
best in the league. It's the best in the league
over the course of almost 700
plate appearances of a full season.
He raises your denominator as well
while increasing your overall
batting average. Like a guy who hits
320 and 650 plate
appearance is much more valuable than a guy who it's 320 and 400 plate appearances.
Exactly. Anthony Santan chicken tender.
Ooh, now I'm hungry, Scott. We will wrap there for Scott and Chris. I'm Frank.
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