Fantasy Baseball Today - Chase DeLauter Spotlight, Mailbag Questions & Daily H2H Points Strategy w/ ADP Frank! (3/23 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: March 23, 2024

Let's kick things off with a prospect spotlight, this time Guardians outfielder Chase DeLauter (2:43)! ... Into the mailbag questions, starting with players who gain value in quality starts and OBP leagues (9:35). ... Elly De La Cruz or Corbin Burnes over the next htree years (12:54)? ... Trade Mason Miller for Walker Buehler in a deeper league (16:20)? ... Which multi-position hitters make sense for daily H2H points leagues (21:01)? ... Who are some sleepers in saves plus holds leagues (27:35)? ... Does it makes sense to stash IL players in H2H leagues (31:55)? ... Special guest ADP Frank joins us to talk Daily H2H points strategy (40:15)! ... How to attack pitching in this format (44:30)? ... What are we looking to do in rounds 1-5 (47:47)? ... Who are some sleepers in daily H2H points leagues (52:05)? ... Why do we love Fantasy Baseball (1:00:55)? Fantasy Baseball Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday Get awesome Fantasy Baseball Today merch here: http://bit.ly/3y8dUqi Follow FBT on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fbtpod?_t=8WyMkPdKOJ1&_r=1 Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your lead. Now here's Frank, Scott, and Chris. Welcome into Fantasy Baseball today on Saturday, March 23rd, our final mailbag of the off season. I am Frank Sample, joined by Scott White and Chris Towers. Today on the show, we have another prospect spotlight.

We'll answer your mailbag questions, and we will be joined by a special guest later on in the podcast. I did want to give a sincere thank you to everybody who sent in questions this offseason, whether via email or an Apple podcast review. I wish we could get to all of them. There's so, so many, but nonetheless, we do thank you. Let's get things started with a prospect spotlight.

Today we're talking about Chase DeLauder, outfield prospect with the Cleveland Guardians. He's Scott's number 31 prospect in his top 100. De Lauder is 22 years old, was a first round pick back in 2022. Limited to just 57 games in the minors last year due to a fractured toe. But his flash power, speed, and really good plate discipline. He was out at the Arizona Fall League where he continued to dominate. He had 299, five homers, five steals, more walks than strikeouts, 14 to 11.

I got to see him while I was out there, just had complete control over the strike zone, advanced feel at the plate. And then he shows up to spring where he's just, carried that over. He's 13 for 25, four home runs at the time of recording this. Scott, Chase DeLauder has not been sent down yet. He's also not on the Guardian's 40-man roster. So what is the upside here and when do you think we see DeLotter with the Guardians? Well, I wouldn't have imagined we'd see him for the start of the season. And I still don't think we do. But the fact he's stuck around while others who we thought had a better chance like Kyle

Manzardo have already been sent down. I think that's telling about how the guardian, how close the guardians think Chase DeLotter is. And I think, I think the spring is, the spring for Chase DeLotter may have been more significant than the spring for any other prospect, because we've always had to assess him with teeny tiny samples because he's been hurt so much since the guardians took him 16th overall.

And in 2022, he's played a total of 50, seven minor league games, only six of them above A ball. But every time he's been healthy enough to take the field, the numbers have just been bonkers. 355 batting average in the minors. You mentioned the Arizona Fall League stats and the fact he's batting 520 this spring with the four home runs, more walks than strikeouts again. And this guy, he looks like just like a hitting savant. He looks like I may have been too low, ranking him 31st among my top 100 prospects,

because he, you know, we don't have like a lot of stack has data for him since he didn't, hasn't spent any time at AAA yet. But he looks like a high impact bat Chase DeLotter does, who is going to be ready to contribute sooner than later. Chris, if we found out that DeLotter was on the opening day, roster for the Guardians, how high do you think he would be drafted? Do you think he would go ahead of late round sleeper types like a Sal Freelick or a Parker Meadows? Those are also, you know, I guess post-hype-ish prospects that, you know, we view as late-round sleepers. What do you think about

the cost if he were on the opening day roster? I think it would probably settle in around 200 overall. It's, he's not, there hasn't been a long runway for hype to build for him. You know, he hasn't really, despite having a great. Great Spring hasn't really been talked about a ton in fantasy circle. So I don't think the price would get exorbitant to the point where I'd be out on him. I think he'd probably be, you know, Freelik and those guys, that makes sense. I think I'd take him above those guys just because there's an air of mystery to him. The thing that I would say about his chances is I was looking through MLBplayingtime.com's

spring training lineups. And on Tuesday, the Guardians had a split squad game. and it sure looked like one of those lineups was an opening day lineup. It was Louis, sorry, I clicked on the wrong one. Sorry. Stephen Kwan,

Jose Ramirez, Josh Naylor, Ramon Luriano, batting cleanup. Andres Jimenez, Bo Naler, Miles Straw, Brian Rokio,

Davieson, de los Santos, I believe is how you pronounce his name. So Chase DeLotter was on the other side of that with Estevan Floreal and Austin Hedges and other guys who we probably don't think are going to play every day. So based on that, and that's a one-time sample size, so I don't want to say anything definitive there, but I wouldn't think he's going to make the opening their roster. But the fact that he hasn't been sent down means they're giving him as many looks as they can.

And, you know, he played a lot in the Arizona Fall League, had more walks and strikeouts there. He's got 19 walks to 15 strikeouts. in 36 games dating back to the Arizona Fall League, including Spring. So there's some really impressive stuff there. He's starting to tap into what scouts have long believed has been plus raw power, nine home runs in those 36 games between Spring and Arizona Fall League after only five and 57 games last year. So I think there's a lot to like. He looks really good.

I don't think he'll be on the opening day roster. I do not think it'll be long until we see. him though. It's certainly well before summer. He was on I had an article came out earlier this week that the top 12 prospects to stash not that every league is deep enough that you need to be

stashing prospects but Chase DeLotter was among those 12 for sure. Do you, off the top of your head, I remember where you had him ranked on that list? I was trying to pull it up on you. Probably lower than I wish I probably if I could rewrite it today I'd probably move him up some. Maybe I'll

have moved him up some by the time you listened to this. Okay, so I'm just scrolling through. You have Chase the Lutter 10th on the list. And yeah, I think there could be an argument for him to be, I don't know, maybe fifth around like Jason Dominguez or Jordan Lawler. So, yeah. Yeah, I could see that. In the, you know, him and there's another guy, Brooks Lee, who was 12th, who also has not been sent down by the twins yet. Don't think either of them are going to be on the opening a roster.

But the way they're being used and the way they're being talked about, I think both Brooks Lee and. Chase the Latter are going to be up pretty soon. All right, again, that is Chase Latter Outfield Prospect with the Cleveland Guardians. And remember if you want to hear about a specific top prospect on a future mailbag, just kidding, because there won't be any more future mailbags. But you could send them in and we could potentially talk about them on a regular season, in-season podcast. Just leave us a five-star rating on Apple and drop the prospect's name in the review.

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Let's get into our mailbag questions. And first up, Apple Podcasts Reviews. This one's from Roto and, dear Nate, Matthew, and Steph, and Stefania. That's a different podcast. Is that different sport, as far as I know? Is that a fantasy football? Yeah, I think that's like old fantasy focus podcast.

I think so. I have an upcoming draft for my home league that six by six head to add categories with quality starts instead of wins and holds, ad holds, and OPS. What players come to mind as the biggest risers in OPS and quality starts? So I made a list.

I'll read some of these names off. anything else comes to mind, feel free to add to it. But OPS risers, up at the top, Aaron Judge, Juan Soto, Otani, Matt Olson, Yordon Alvarez, Kyle Schwerber, Christian Walker, Tristan Kossis, Max Muncie, Marcelo Zuna, Reese Hoskins, Nolan, Jorge Solair, James Outman, and Jack Swinsky.

I think there's a very clear type there. It's walks a lot, gets on base, hits for good power. So obviously those names make a ton of sense. The correlation between the players, the batters who gain value in OPS leagues and the ones who gain value in OBP leagues, OBP versus batting average, I think would be that there would be a strong correlation. It's another format where the Bobby Wits of the world lose value just because so much of OPS comes from OBP. I will say, I think having average and OPS is kind of a nice balance between just getting rid of batting average because I think there's something to be said for trying to feel. figure out who's going to hit for a good average and how to value those guys. And, you know,

OPS obviously takes into account on base percentage. It also takes an account slugging, so it's not just, you know, valuing guys who get on base. So I think there's, I like that. I like going to a six by six with OPS in theory, at least. Blasphemy, Chris. That is blasphemic of you. Quality starts leaders from last year. Logan Webb had 24. Zach Wheeler and Chris Bassett each Ted 21, and then each of these names had 20 quality starts, exactly. Jordan Montgomery, Framber Valdez, George Kirby, Pablo Lopez, Justin Steele, Kevin Gosman, Blake Snell, and Zach Gallen, a few later names going deeper in drafts that had at least 15 quality starts last year, Seth Lugo, Brian Beaux, and Marcus Stroman. Anybody else come to mind? Or is that a good

enough list? Good pitchers tend to get quality starts, good pitchers. are going to be exceptions like younger guys are going to be less likely to get quality starts just because they're less likely to pitch deep into games. But yeah, I think for the most part, it doesn't, it shouldn't really change the way you approach things. I guess you're maybe a little like, I don't know, even like Max Fried should get a bunch of quality starts as long as he's healthy. I was going to say it's like, it may be downgrades some of the guys on really good teams who are going to get a lot of wins. but like you got to pitch at least five innings to qualify for a win.

So most of the guys who are going to get that are probably going to be pretty good and also get a decent amount of quality starts. So I don't think it really changes the way you value pitchers very much. All right. Let's move on to the next question. This one's from John Thundergun. What a name. All right.

I'm in a 6x-O-P.S. Roto Keeper League. There you go, Chris. Another batting average in OPS it looks like. Keep four at the run. round before last year's draft cost and can keep as long as you want until the draft cost gets to the fifth round. Top five picks can't be kept.

I'm definitely keeping Kyle Tucker in the 10th, Julio Rodriguez in the 14th, and Shohei Otani the hitter in the 15th. Would you go with Ellie Dela Cruz in the 16th or Corbyn Burns in the 13th as my last keeper? Leaning Ellie to factor in the ability to keep for

many more years. Oh yeah. Yeah, I think Ellie de la Cruz look I mean you can keep Corbyn Burns for a long time too in round 13 so it's not like that's a bad choice but Ellie de la Cruz I think it won't be many years

before he's in the first round discussion yeah I mean I do have Burns ranked ahead this year and the difference when a 13th and a 16th round pick is pretty negligible so but you're retaining the value for many years right yeah that's what makes it that's the distinction for me. Does the fact that he already has three amazing hitterkeepers factor in at all?

Not really. Not for me. Not given that you're thinking many years ahead and look there's always a chance like the league folds and you don't get the full payout. That's always, yeah, that's a stable league. Like that's not something I ever really worry about because I play with people who like to play and I've I've never had a league just up and end. But if that's something that happens with you a lot, maybe I'd consider selling out for the short term. I'd rather be set up for the long term. Here's my question. Who do you think provides more value over the next three years? Ellie Dela Cruz or Corbyn Burns? Ellie Dela Cruz.

Probably Ellie. I think that's probably right just because any pitcher can get hurt much more easily than a hitter, certainly. So yeah, I think that's probably right. But I don't know, you've got such a good start that I feel like prioritizing right now. might make more sense, but I get it. It's fine. It's fine. Keep Ellie. All right. Let's take our first break. When we return, we get to your emails here on Fantasy Baseball today.

Welcome back in. Let's continue on with your mailbag questions this time. Emails, Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. And this one is from Frank. Not me, I swear. Five by five Roto, a very deep league, 14 teams, 35 players on each team. Wavers are very thin. I have pretty solid starting pitching and my relievers are Carlos Estevez, Reisel Iglesias, Mason Miller, and Tyler Kinley. I was offered Walker Bueller for Mason Miller. I really like the chance to have Bueller, but given that all my relievers besides Iglesias, aren't a shoe-in for saves, is giving up Miller too hurtful.

I do think Estevez is probably a shoe-in at least early on. I mean, he's a shoe-in for a couple of saves. After that, I can't, I can't say anything. I mean, he's a shoe-in for as many saves as he can get before he implodes, and Robert Stevenson gets back. Fair. I'd rather have Walker Bueller. Wow, and you're the Mason Miller guy.

Yeah, I mean, I like Mason Miller, but in those deep leagues, saves get, safe sources, get the cost gets elevated so much. And it's a, it's a bloody battle to pick up the ones that emerge on the waiver wire. So you're kind of stuck with whatever you draft, not literally, but practically.

So I understand the hesitation here. I mean, in a vacuum, I'd prefer Bueller over Mason Miller. And like if it was a typical 12-team league, I wouldn't hesitate to make that deal because I know saves are going to be attainable later. But I'm not confident they will be attainable later in this league. And it's you have to balance the categories. So I'm leaning against it. If Walker Bueller was a sure thing, like if he wasn't coming back from his second Tommy John

and didn't have performance issues before having that second Tommy John, I'd be a little more eager to do it. I'm kind of with Frank the emailer here, not Frank Stamfield, but Frank the emailer. And that I don't know that I want to do it. Well, you know what, Scott? I am not with Scott White, the analyst either, because I think Mason Miller probably has as much injury risk as Walker Bueller,

even though Walker Bueller is already hurt. That's not why the- It's worth pointing out. Walker Bueller is not currently hurt. Walker Bueller is currently 100% healthy. This is not a, it's not a Yuri Perez. It's like Walker Bueller is 100% healthy and it has been for months. I didn't know the argument was even about health.

I just thought it was, am I crippling my team in, one of ten necessary areas. You said Bueller's not a sure thing. Yeah. I don't know that he's an ace still. I think he's, I don't know what he is

because he's coming off a second Tommy John and we were not concerned. I would take it. Miller's not a sure thing, obviously, either. We don't even know he's the closer. It's whatever. I mean, I think ultimately it's your decision.

But as the one who often under does it, with saves in these deeper leagues. I'm telling you, I would be concerned that you're going to underdo it in saves in this scenario. It might happen. Maybe I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid

with these recent reports with Walker Bueller, hitting 97 miles per hour. They're saying he looks good. I would take the shot on Walker Bueller and I would make the trade. Okay. I mean, it's not that I don't like there's a lot.

Is the fact he's hitting 97 miles per hour that meaningful to you? Yeah. Like I understand it's a problem. hitting 93, but okay, so he's throwing as hard as he's supposed to be throwing. But he was before he got, I don't know. There's a lot more to it than that, obviously. I mean, I'd rather him be hitting 97 miles prior than not hitting 27 miles. I'll just say, I think part of it is just never really doubted he was going to hit 97 miles. I do expect Walker Bueller to be very good. It's not a certainty,

but my expectation is once he's able to pitch in games, and I'm expecting that to be something like May. I have fewer performance concerns about Walker Bueller than I do Kodai Senga when they're both able to pitch this season. Oh, really? Walker Bueller is one starting from a higher point. He was a better pitcher at his best than what we saw from Kodai Senga last year. And he's not when we last saw him. But he's also not currently hurt. And that's that's just such a, that's a much bigger deal than than anything else for me, I think. All right, let's move on. This next one's from Tommy and Long Island. Here, Sparky, Ron, and Roger. Those are the last three Yankees-Sy Young winners before Garrett Cole, right?

I think so. That would make sense. Sparky, Lyle and Ron Guidry? Yes, and the Rocket. On one. Yeah. Specific to... Yankees historian over here.

Look at that. Specific to head-to-head point. To confirm, but I was pretty confident. Yeah. Specific to head-to-head points formats, especially those with daily lineups, can you recommend good benchbats with multi-position eligibility that should be targeted late-roastering

bench pitchers is so important in that format that I wanted, I find myself wanting to roster one bench bat that can help me in multiple spots. So here are the names that I found going outside the top 200 that have multi-position eligibility. Brandon Drury, Ryan McMahon, Luis Renhifo, Gavin Lux, Brendan Donovan, Jeff McNeil, Willie Castro, Jordan Westberg, Wilmer Flores, and two that will gain multi-position eligibility that I think we're both, we're all kind of excited about Michael Bush and Colt Keith. Colt Keith, his first spring home run today. I love to see that.

I like all those guys. I think you left out some pretty obvious ones, though, who might just be too high end to be considered bench guys, but I don't think, like, South Freelick's a bench guy. Yeah. And we don't know when he's going to gain multi-eligibility. He's only outfield eligible right now, but he's played second and third base in the spring.

So I do think we'll see him there enough to he'll get there eventually. And then... It sounds like Freelik is going to start at third base, at least against right-handed pitching. And then Jonathan India, who you can get usually around $250 in ADP right now. And I'm starting to come around after having him as a bust early on because the Reds must have done something to somebody with all the injuries that they've had. I don't know if you guys talked about.

Edwin Arroyo is now out for the season with shoulder surgery. But that's a big shortstop prospect for them. But they're down to like one shortstop after having 17 of them at the beginning of spring training. So John in the India, I think, is going to play every day as long as he's healthy. He's only second base eligible, but he should play some at first, third, and the outfield. Well, if Matt McLean's out for a long time, I'm not as confident, India is going to play some at first, third, and that. He might just go back to being there. Sure, yeah, that's fair.

So I think his overall fantasy values higher with the news, but he may not be. the versatile player we were thinking was, or he may, maybe Spencer Steer plays some second. It just obviously, India was their primary second baseman last year. I will add a couple of thoughts here. One is that

Hassan Kem, he's not a late round pick, but in a points leak, he tends to go later. You can probably get him around 10, 11, or 12. And we think of him as primarily a speedster, but he walks a lot too,

and stolen base totals are going to be high enough that it's still going to add up to a good number of. point. So I actually like to get him for the same reason in points leagues to kind of for him to be my backup everywhere. Also, Tommy Edmund while he's injured, I imagine he'd be practically free if you have an IL spot to store him in until hopefully he makes it back within a month, a month and a half. All right. By the way, Sparky Lyle and Ron Guidry won Say Young's in back-to-back years, 1977, 1987, 1978. Sparky Lyle should not have won that

Say-Young. He threw 137 innings. That was that weird time. in the 70s and 80s where everyone just decided that closers were super valuable and needed to win Syungs and like we grew up we grew out of it all right how dare you Chris I wasn't expecting Sparky Lyle strays on today's I just I'm blascony this is more about the this is more about the voters at the time all right all right I think I said blasphemic earlier which is a word that was weird I'm sorry about that it sounded wrong blasphemous is the adjective form of blasphemy. Clearly, I am not very smart. Okay, let's keep going. Let's continue on. This next one's from Ben. I was in the middle of my salary cap draft on Monday when the Blake Snell

news broke. The auction platform freaked out and threw everyone out of the draft room. So when I came back and saw him on the board, I sort of panic bought him. A good enough price, but I later realized I didn't have enough money left for Jackson Churio. Should I now trade Snell for Churio? I'm not a fan of Snell's volatility. but Truro is unproven. I know roster context means everything. I'm in an 8-5-5-N-L-only head-to-head categories. Wow, that was a mouthful.

I got Acuna, Tatis, and Lindor, but ultimately had to sacrifice other positions. So Brett Beatty, for example, is my starting third baseman. Woof. For pitching, I also got Dylan Sees, Bobby Miller, Chotei-Imanaga, and some podcast favorites, Christopher Sanchez, and Ryan Weathers.

What do you guys think? Snell for Churio, N-L-only. I think it's fine. I have them roughly in the same range of the rankings. So I put out my first trade values chart on Wednesday. I would assume right next to each other or right around. So it's probably fine. It just depends on what you need.

I don't think you need pitching. Like Dylan sees Bobby Miller, showdame and I think that's a solid top three for an NL only, even though it's 18, so it isn't quite as deep. So I think it's fine. I don't, I don't think I would. With Acuna Tatis and Lendor. Yeah, I don't think I would make the trade.

Feels like a pretty stacked in a lonely team, honestly. Well, you have to remember that it's, uh, It is only eight teams. Only eight teams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's a tough one. I probably value them about the same at this point, to be honest.

And I think, yeah. So you're saying you want to do it? You stick with Snell, Chris? I think so I also just like These have been tough The Miller Bueller one And now this one

It's I've got them both This $15 players Both in my salary cap values And are My trade values So I

Honestly I feel the downside risk More for Snell Than for Chorio And that sounds kind of funny to say I know Because Chorio is a 20 year old

rookie But that's where I am And so unless I have Like unless I just, okay, clearly I need pitching more than hitting. I think I would do the deal. I think I'd trade Snell for Torio. All right.

This next one's from Josh. I am in a five-by-five dynasty keeper league with 12 teams, 14 starters on offense, five starting pitcher slots, two relief pitcher spots, and just two general pitcher spots. 23 starters in total. We have seven bench spots. The draft is deep,

and there is not a lot of value to draft closers at all due to it being saves plus holds. It is the strategy of summon the league to semi-punt the saves category. or sneak in some late inning relievers through waivers or late in the draft. Can you tell me a few late inning guys that have closer potential but will not be closing

or teams that are going the closer by committee route? Brian Abraeu from the Astros gave me a lot of hidden value last year. Any other suggestions looking for lots of K's and holds. So I think any of the Brewers, Phillies, and Twins teams right now kind of look like closer by committees. Some people might think Jose Alvarado.

obviously he could emerge and someone could emerge on any of those teams but those kind of feel up in the air right now and then just some other names with good ratios I think that will provide holds Hunter Harvey Jason Adam Ryan Presley the aforementioned Brian Abraeu

Oroldus Chapman Hector Naris Yep Hector Narris might end up being the club's closer Robert Stevenson whenever he gets healthy Aroldus Chapman Did you mention him?

Yep Yuki Matsui Jason Adam I know you mentioned him. Matt Brash, he's currently hurt, but eventually, Yaneer Canoe. You know, I think Kimberl's going to be fine closing, but Yaneer Canoe would be the backup guy and the clear eighth inning guy. Bruce Darkradoral, who I also think is banged up.

Man, a lot of hurt sediment right now. A.J. Minter has been a really good, safe supposed to hold's guy. I don't know if anybody mentioned him. And plus, just targeting good relievers on good teams makes sense in this one. Yes. And I think has a chance to end up the market. Marlins closer of Tanner Scott falters. Well, I mean, I don't know that his ratio is going to be amazing.

But Adam Adamadovino setting up for Edwin Diaz. You know what? I actually, just on Thursday, I did a bullpen breakdown for all 30 teams. Yes, you did. I listed the top three or four save candidates in order and some other information in there. So that would be a good resource to answer this question. Last name that I'll mention there is David Robertson. even if he's not the closer.

I think the Rangers will win a lot of games, and he should be the setup man behind Jose LaClerc. This next one's from Lou. I'm in a 12-team, 5-5 league, has been together 37 years, and it's really competitive. We protect 10 players, wrestling with my last protect,

or I guess keeper, between Tanner Scott and Spencer Steer. Both are $5. Our league has 23 closers, likely being protected, and the only real closers that will be available are Jordan Romano, who's hurt, and Emmanuel,

say who's not hurt. I feel in our league will be tough to get a legit closer, but Ken put together a final roster spot and reserve picks of some lower closers instead of men. It's such a volatile position. I love having steer who qualifies at four different positions. Oh. So that's a first, second, third and outfield, I guess. Probably a Yahoo League. Fancy leagues where you get steer at second base. I have steer valued much more highly than Tanner Scott Who we're talking Tanner Scott? Yeah, I think Tanner Scott's an $8 player Steer is like a $14 player

for me, something like that. So even with the context of your league, I think I'd rather go with Steer, but I get it if you want to go with Scott. I just, I don't know,

I don't feel particularly confident in Tanner Scott at this point. Even though I have him as an $8 player, I'm not even sure I would, like, there have definitely been drafts where I have just not bid on Tanner Scott even at that price.

Yeah, so this is like probably a difference of comparing this to the Walker Bueller, Mason Miller situation from earlier. Yeah. There's probably about 150 fewer players being rostered overall in this league, it being a 12 teamer. And so I think you can have a little more faith that you're going to be able to supplement your saves over the course of the season. And so I would definitely prefer to have Spencer Steer to Tanner Scott myself. This one's from TJ. Hello there. Ryan, Jimmy, and Chase.

Oh. That's... The Phillies, baby. Yeah, Phillies. Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins and Chase O'Lea. I have a question related to head-to-head leagues with IL spots and playoffs. Is there any value in drafting

multiple currently injured players at lower values to make a strong push for a playoff run? The recent news of Garrick Cole and Gavin Williams give some obvious examples, but can you provide a top five or top 10 list of less obvious players?

that would meet this criteria. I'm mostly thinking in the lens of a keeper slash auction league, where I have a strong core of players, I'm confident, can get me to the playoffs, but would like to make a stronger push in the playoffs. A lot of injured players right now.

You have not done an IL stash piece yet. No, I'm handing on it. Before opening day, I'm not sure that's going to happen, probably soon after opening day, but I'll do it. I'll do it next week. I'll worry about it.

Say I won't. I'm looking for ideas. Okay. That's fine. Let's see. A lot of pitchers. So I would put a Nicola Dolo. He's probably not even going to be out for long.

Yeah, I think April 10th is his expected debut. But I love the upside there still, particularly for strikeouts. Obviously, Khoda Senga, I guess you didn't mention him here. He's the one I'm probably most invested in. It's one of three players who I've rostered in five leagues, Kodi Senga. Justin Verlander? Yep. Yep.

Probably not going to be all that long for him. Sonny Gray is probably not going to be all that long, but he's been discounted. Walker Bueller, like we talked about earlier. So, Shane Baza is, Walker Bool, you mentioned, yeah. Shane Baz is going to be probably out long enough that there's a chance you could get him for really cheap. But I expect him to make a... an impact, potentially a high impact at some point. Kyle Braddish, I think, belongs in this discussion,

even though his situation is murkier with the UCL. Although, all indications are he's progressing well. Todge Bradley also likely to start on the IL, but... Max Scherzer. Yes. Max Scherzer, Alex Cobb, Robbie Ray. I mean... Oh, yeah, Scherzer's a great one.

Cobb, Cobb not as a high end of a pitcher. Robbie Ray, it's tough because we haven't seen a pitch in so long. and I feel like for him, maybe there could be a little bit more, you know, control issues coming back. Isn't there talk of Jeffrey Springs returning mid-season?

Yeah, I think June or July is possible. Yeah, Jurasmussen, Jacob deGrom as well, could all be back before the end of the season. I think you have to stash those guys a little lower. Yon Duran. Yeah, relievers, Jordan Romano, probably going to start on the IL. Devin Williams would...

Yeah. Did he mention that one? He said Williams. I guess he was talking about Gavin Williams. Yeah. All right. I think we've covered it. Yeah.

Yeah. This next one is from Yehuda. My 12 team league has a $7 ad on each year. You keep somebody. $310 budget. I was offered an $8 Jackson Holiday and $8 Mitch Keller for $17 that gallon. I already have George Kirby and Framber Valdez for $41 combined. Should I take the deal and gamble on having Jackson Holiday for $15 next year?

I mean, yeah, because you think about like $310 budget, most of the extra $50 should go to high-end players. That's personally speaking, you're still going to have plenty of $3 and $4 players in this league. So that means like Jackson Holiday might be capable for like three or four more years if he lives up to his potential, even with a pretty robust $7 increase. So I think the drop-off from Mitch Keller, from Zach Allen to Mitch Keller is significant, obviously, but might be small enough that it's just outright a win without even considering the values here. You take away just two of Mitch Keller's crooked eight innings eight run starts last year and his numbers look a lot like Zach Allen. I'm just saying. It's true. Yes.

Take away Zach Allen's two worst starts while you're at it. Yeah, let's do that. Well, they're not machines, Chris. You can't like... You can only do it for Mitch Keller. He's the only one. He's the only one. Let's go pirates.

You weren't on the other day, Chris. We are officially the Pirates podcast. It's like people dismiss this. It's not... I'm not dismissing it. People can have a bad day and it doesn't mean they're going to have that exact same bad day the next year. I agree. But I just don't think you can apply that standard to only one player.

I agree. I think it's fine. I think it's fine to take everyone's two worst starts away. I don't think you can just do it for one guy. But it's not going to happen. Like you don't know who it's going to happen too is the thing. So you like, yes, you could do the. You could do that and say this is Zach Allen's upside.

Remove his worst two starts. That's his upside. Yes, that's fine. But nobody's. Well, no. Nobody's true. I don't think you can. Nobody's doubting the upside.

You can't just take Mitch Keller's two starts and say he was basically Zach Gallen. And that's where it's unfair. Don't happen, though. If you eliminate 16 earned runs, Chris. Yeah. I mean, like, that's a lot of earned runs, you know? No, I get the point you're making.

I'm just saying applying it inconsistently is unfair. If that's what I'm doing, but I don't, I don't know. I don't think we're going to be able to close this gap within a reasonable time frame. I do think Mitch Keller is a pitcher that's more likely to get blown up than other pitchers, just because he doesn't miss bats as much, like a nine point. 7% swinging strike rate. But anyway, whatever.

We've talked enough about Mitch Keller. Let's take our final break when we return. We've got a special guest joining us. We'll do that right after this. Welcome back in. Our buddies over at the Fantasy Football Today podcast, have their annual draftathon every September to help raise money for St. Jude Children's Hospital.

And last year, they auction off a few guest appearances on this podcast. And with that, please welcome to the show. Frank, another one. Thank you. What's awesome to be here, guys? Thanks. Yeah, for those watching, you see the name down there.

ADP Frank. I'm Rodo Frank. He's ADP Frank. Perfect. And here we are. Great name. Welcome. And thanks so much, obviously, for donating to a great cause.

Let's just get in because you sent us over a bunch of different topics that you wanted to get to. It's kind of a fantasy smorgas board that we have coming up here with a bit of a focus on daily head-to-head points leagues. And this is not something that we talk about often. So I think it's a good opportunity. It sounds like it's something that you have a level of expertise in. So start us off with some kind of draft strategies that you use in a daily head-to-head points format. Okay, so right off the bat, I would say you don't draft a catcher. You would totally eliminate catcher completely.

Simply due to the fact that, yes, there are very few catchers that are going to get huge plate appearances, get a lot of volume. But outside of those picks, the level. of replacement value is quite negligible, in my opinion. So like the 18th best catcher and the 22nd best catcher, probably not much difference there. And getting a top catcher in the third round might be fantastic. However, I think the value of getting a third round Semyon or third round Schwerber is much more valuable, especially in a points league,

than relying on a catcher that, for the most part, catchers don't even play it every day. So you're already taking a hit there. And I assume that's a one-catcher league, right, Frank? Correct. Yeah, and Chris, this is something we talked about when we were doing our analysis of Adley Rutchman, is that it's nothing against Adley Ruchman,

but if he's going in a third or fourth round, the fact that you can get a bow-naler with one of your last picks or a Mitch Garber or someone like that, it's just the difference in draft costs, the opportunity cost of taking an Adley-Rutchman that early. The thing with Adley-Rutchman specifically is like, points is his better format, arguably, and he plays pretty much every day.

He had like 670 plate appearances last year. And given that context, his point total last year was pretty underwhelming. Exactly. Did he even get to like 450 in CBS standard scoring? Scott, I don't know if you have that data in front of you. But yeah, that's the thing that always stands out.

when I look at 463. 4.63. So that's... And how much did William Contreras put up? 428. Yeah. So what is the difference there?

Right? One point a week? They actually average the same fantasy points per game. Three fantasy points per game. And where is the difference in draft right now? Are they apart by a big difference? I think it's probably two to three rounds, right? Yeah.

I think in most drafts. Yeah. And the difference was like one point a week. Yeah. Yes. So that's what I mean. Yeah. So there's no value there.

It would have to be a discount. But how many hitters are you starting? Because you're just starting one catcher. How many hitters total? So there would be the classic first, second, third, short, a middle, a corner, and five outfielders. Okay. So a pretty big lineup overall. Yeah, with one.

Because, you know, obviously catchers are going to score less than any other. Exactly. I'm not getting as much playing time. But there is an element of how much is your catcher. scoring relative to the other catch. Yeah. I guess the only argument that could be made is Perez actually has first base eligibility. So if you were able to somehow wait on Perez and Contraeus, for example, and have that,

you could have him in your first and you could have a catcher and you can actually search them in and out. Well, that would not be great just because the relative value. Yeah, you're losing the first base. Exactly, yeah. So I don't see the value, yeah. Yeah. And look, I'm...

I guess the only offer would have been Varshal maybe. I like the upside of so many catchers that I don't want to invest highly in that position either. But just as a matter of principle, I think if at a discount, you can get a catcher that separates you, that sets you apart from every other team's catcher. It is worth it. There is a point where it's worth it. It's not round three. And that's why I like Mitch Garver, who just does not seem to get drafted as if he might play 140 games, even though he very well may. He might be benefited by the DH in the battle.

Frank, talk to me about how you address pitching in this format. I think a lot of people who play in a daily head-to-points format, they're probably looking to stream pitching often. Do you find yourself waiting on pitchers and then just jumping in and grabbing as many of those mid-tier options as possible and just kind of playing the matchups? How do you attack pitching in a daily points league? I would say precisely what you said in terms of trying to attack the mid-rounds, like round six through 12 in the draft, to try to get as many of the non-glob kind of pitchers that are able to stand out. But that being said, I think waiver wires are not as useful in a daily league

because the transactions only occur on a weekly basis. So it's a little, it's more advantageous to kind of have. have your set guys that you believe in and ride them out throughout the year rather than constantly like trying to like be like who's the spot starter this week. And that's that's an important distinction to make specifically with weekly versus daily transactions. So you're talking about a league where your waiver runs once a week. Correct.

One opportunity to play players up. But then you can change as much as you want. So like in a typical daily league where daily roster moves are allowed, that's where you see a lot of that free for all. And that's where you see like, hey, the Rockies are on the road. I'm going to stream Kyle Freeland,

where in this league, you actually have to use a whole roster spot. The whole week on Kyle Freeland, if you want to stream him. So that's where it gets a little more difficult. I do want to point out, Kyle Freeland's velocity is up like three miles per hour this spring. No,

and I think he opens the season with two road starts. He does. I'm going to give Nick Pollock a hat tip on this one. Early season streamer, Kyle Freeland. just say. I think they're in Arizona to start the year. Yeah, at Arizona and then

it's like a decent matchup the second one. Another interesting point, sorry to cut you off there, Chris. Go, go, go, go. In terms of starting pitchers last year of the top 30 that were drafted, only 14 of them made more than 25 starts. So 16 of them didn't.

So right off the bat, that's a coin flip. Yeah. Right? So if I'm thinking, like, out of every 10 pitchers I draft, possibly half of them are not even going to return value, you have to rely so much more heavily on the volume in pitching in a daily league, which also then eliminates relief pitching completely.

Yeah, and I really do like that aspect of your league, and I would recommend, look, I'm not going to tell people how to play, but I think if you play in a daily lineup league, specifically in a points league, the weekly transactions is probably the way to go. Because then, like, if you do the daily ads, like things just get out of control and people. Yeah.

You can put it. I think you could put a... Players don't really have value in that. Like, you can put a limit on it. It's the top 140 players matter and everyone else is kind of expendable. Yeah, it really becomes a competition and who has the most time to attend to their team, which is something we've harped on before. But we do get those emails.

Like, how do you keep people from streaming a zillion pitchers every day? Well, there are two ways to do that. If you're going to have a daily lineup league, there are two ways to do that. One is to run waivers weekly, like you do, ADP Frank, or the other is to limit the number of transactions each week. To set an upper limit on that. Frank, talk to me about your typical draft breakdown. You mentioned earlier you don't like to take catchers early on,

but what are you typically looking to do early on? I mean, I guess based on our conversation is you like to probably take hitters and then you draft pitchers in the midter rounds. But talk to me about it. So looking at the first, if I could break down the first five rounds, I would say it is entirely critical for you to return on top 50 player value of those five picks, right? You can't, I don't think you can really,

it would be incredibly more challenging to win a league if your first, I don't know, two or three of your top five picks actually bust. You would need to really catch on a Mitch Keller like last year or Eflin. You would need to catch on somebody in the late 20 rounds to make up for that mix in the front round. So for example, this year,

I would say, let's say you had the sixth pick. That's pretty average. Like you're right in the middle. I would say in the first round, you probably would like to go Soto if available. If not available, possibly Tucker. And then if not available, possibly Otani. Obviously, that does put in your utility spot and it locks you in. However, I would say like this time last year, we were drafting Otani, you know,

as a top, top number one player in a daily league. I know he's not pitching this year. but let's be honest, he's going to play every day. So, I mean, second round, I would say that would be your only opportunity to kind of shift towards pitching and possibly Burns. I think Burns will have possibly the greatest availability to return on investment. And when looking at starting pitching, quality starts is a lot more of an important variable in a points league because you get extra points there versus looking at wins hypothetically because you can't predict wins. So quality starts, burns his lead quality starts in the last three years. So, I mean, he's a great indicator of hopefully getting 20 quality starts would be a high level there.

Third round, I would say you want to go second base. You want to go Sammy on Altovae. You want to load up second base. Obviously, you guys know, I'm preaching to the choir, but there was only two, three second basemen. Obviously, we're not including bets because he wasn't second base. There was only three guys last year that hit 25 on runs and stole 20 bases. got close to 100 RBIs or 100 runs, and it's the same guys. It's Altubei, Albies, and Semian.

And I think in a points in league, Semian makes the most sense because of the volume play. He's going to get 700 plate appearances. I doubt Altuvae or Albi's will. So I would go Semian there, third round. Fourth round, I would go Bregman and take your advantage at third base. Great in a points league. He is going to get more walks than strikeouts. So that is at a third base.

I think outside of Bregman, Ramirez is the only other option, and you're unable to take him if you go Soto or Tucker. So Bregman, I would assume. And if for some reason Bregman doesn't work, Max Muncie, 10th round is a fantastic value. And there's no doubt about that. If you draft it with me, Breggman's probably going to go in round three,

and then Mice's probably going to go in round eight. That's true. That's exactly what I do in the point. points leagues too. So many of the third baseman are just not well suited for that form. They're not. Yeah. And, you know, if you get Jose Ramirez, that's one thing. Exactly. You have to commit it to a certain point. So yeah, my plan going in is usually Alex Bregman in round three or Muncie in round eight. There you go. So, and then fifth shortstop. I would go with Cruz this year. I think he is your greatest value on a top 50 player, possibly being a top five player. If we talk next year at the

same time and said Cruz finished as a number fifth player in the league. I mean, it's not impossible. So I think at a value point of view, there is the most amount of return on that investment in the fifth round. Hey, man. Like you said, preaching to the choir. I drafted him in our head to head points listener league the other day at the end of the fifth round. And I was happy to do it. My first share of O'Neill Cruz. So yes, please, let's make that happen. Monster year here, hopefully coming for O'Neill Cruz. Frank, you broke down the early rounds, what you like to do. in the mid-round's you like to target some of those volume starting pitchers. What about later on?

What about some late-round sleepers that you like to target this year? Okay, so late-round. So if we're going pitching, I would say outside of ADP-200 is Carlos Rodon. I think Carlos Rodan has a huge bounce-back potential. If we look at the last three years, he finishes the top three starting pitcher, two of those three years. And last year, obviously, injuries. So I think Rodon is a great buy low. so you don't have to take him as your 20th pick,

but maybe if you take him as a 15th or 14th round pick, great value there with the upside. Lance Lynn at 312 ADP, where is there a pitcher in the 300s that's going to give you 200 strikeouts? Yeah, I mean, in a points league, especially. Like in a roto league, Lynn might not be worth the roster spot because the ratios might be so bad. But at a points league where that matters less,

he's going to give you volume. Exactly. And speaking of volume, let's talk about Kyle Gibson. Of the last three years, the most innings pitched by any pitcher is Corbyn Burns, Garrett Cole, and last but not least,

Kyle Gibson really third. He's third in innings pitched over the last three years. I honestly... Many people don't even think about that. You could have given me 40 guesses. And I don't think I would have gotten there. Another big thing people don't think about is Gibson put up 17 quality starts last year.

And Burns put up, I believe, 20. So obviously there's not a, you know, there's a small difference there. But if you're looking for value late, I think that's a big one. Do you want to guess where Kyle Gibson ranked in head to head points, just total points among starting pitchers last year in CBS standard scoring? I have no clue. What are you? I have no idea

No idea He was top 30 I have to count it all the way out But he was like 28, 29 And where are you drafting him Not at all probably He did win 15 games Yeah

His per start You know his per start score was pretty average Okay If you look at For example, Garrett Cole's stats And you look at Kyle Gibson's stats Kyle Gibson is 75% of Gary Cole's stats They had the same amount of win

Gary Cole had about 67 more strikeouts, and obviously the ERA and Webb are different, but we are talking about a difference of a first round value and a guy that's not getting drafted. My point is just, one, I don't think you can count on Kyle Gibson winning 15 again. That's fair. Two, because he made all his starts, it added up to more points, but when pitchers miss starts, obviously you get a replacement in his place, so it's not an apples to apples comparison. But the point you're making, I think, is you look at that 473 ERA for Kyle Gibson last year, and you probably think he's without value in a points league, not necessarily that ERA doesn't have a –

there's not a direct consequence to that ERA. Obviously, the runs can't against him, but if he's pitching enough innings to counteract it, then he still has value. And he's third in innings over the last few years, so I feel like that is a good value for where he's going. Yeah, that volume just matters so much more in a points league. And I think Kyle Gibson actually got taken in our 12-team listener league the other day. It's a points league. There were a few, some kind of just like boring pitchers like Taiwan Walker,

but those guys are going to give you innings and they're going to be in a position to win games on good teams. Frank, you can continue on with some pitchers or if you have to wait on-on-freyers. I just want to throw in Trevor Rogers, Miami. He's an interesting guy. And at one point, I find myself sometimes trying to, look in a little deeper at the social aspect of a player. So, for example, Trevor Rogers, a lot of people don't realize this, but when COVID was happening, his grandparents, both his grandparents died, and at the same week, both his parents

got COVID. And he was actually fearful for his dad losing his life. And it totally screwed up his season. And looking back on it, he never even recovered two years after that. This year, going into it, he said he has a clear head. He said mentally he's feeling a lot better. I think there's a big bounce back here for a guy that's a big, a big thrower and somebody that's hitting 96. Chris, talk to me about it.

I was at, I was at Rates and Burrells. They've recorded a live podcast yesterday. I was there. And, you know, Saris and Nick Pollock were talking up all the Marlin starters, really. But Trevor Rogers was someone who has not really gotten the hype that Ryan Wathers and, you know, AJ Puck have. but he's having a very good spring himself. The stuff looks back. And yeah,

I think Rogers is absolutely a late round target. Yeah, and he's mentally there, which is a big, you know, sometimes I think we forget that these people are humans. Absolutely. They're not just robots. They just, like, go out and, like, do stuff. And when things are happening in their personal life, I think that does have a big, big impact on them.

Gio Leto is a great example last year, going through a divorce, getting traded. People don't think about those things, but those things have a big impact. Yeah. Sometimes it can help understand. understand the numbers. Yeah, for sure.

I think that's a great point. Frank, were there any late round hitters that you want to tell you? Okay, quickly. Outfield, Brandon Nimmo. He's obviously not a 30th round guy, but he's not a fifth round guy either. And he's going to bring back in a points league, especially with the walks, with the volume of hitting lead off. He's going to bring back high value for a guy that's going in the 14th or 12th round.

very similar to a, you know, a rodon of sorts. Second base, Whitmerfield. He is a great option not only at second base, but at outfield. He has both. And he's obviously going to be playing. I think last year in Toronto we saw a little bit of a stone base abilities that we kind of forgot about. And this year, I think in Philly, I think he'll actually be pushed a little harder than

the Jays actually used them. and on top of that, Brandon Jury. Brandon Jury is a great guy because he has first and second eligibility, which actually then goes corner and middle. And that's a big addition in the Daily League. When guys are sitting or guys are in playing, if you can put Brandon Jury not only a second, not only at first, but that corner and at middle, that's a big help.

Yeah, and we had a question early on in the podcast asking about this exact thing. And I was like, maybe we should just call Frank on now. Let him talk about this because they were asking about multi-position. eligibility for hitters in daily points leagues. And I think that makes a lot of sense to have at least one of them on your team, just so you can kind of move things around. Well, you definitely need at least one or two because injuries are going to happen. And on top of that, there's just, there's just isn't, I think in previous years,

there were a lot more guys that had multiple eligibility. But this year, there's less. I think you guys spoke about it earlier today. Like Sal Freilich, will he get second base and third base? If he does, that's a huge addition to being an outfielder. Yep. And, you know, we'll see. Ryan McMahon is a big one.

The only downside with Ryan McMahon is that he's literally a daily player that's only half because you can only really play him when he's at home. His splits are horrible. Something I brought up before too in a points league and I learned this the hard way, do not have

multiple Rockies in a head-ed-head points league because if you, you can't play them when they're on the road. You don't want to. I mean, gosh, if you play in a deeper points league and you somehow wind up with Nolan Jones and Ryan McMahon on your team, I mean, When they're both on the road, it's rough, man. Right.

I don't, for what it's worth, I don't think, I don't think Ryan McMahon, it sounds like, Frank, your head-to-head points league is deeper than most because you have the middle infield spot, you have the corner infields spot, and five outfielders. So that's different from the CBS standard. But I don't think Ryan McMahon's going to make the cut in most of those formats just because his skill set isn't optimized for discipline, especially. I feel like Nolan Jones is the only Rocky.

Maybe Chris Bryant. What about Tovar? In the points league. Yeah, I mean, same thing. He just doesn't have a great discipline for. Maybe in your league because you have the extra middle infield spot to Phil he gets drafted. But I think he just needs to get better. You know, that's the kind of thing with him where, you know, he's got to take a step forward to really even be worth using a 12-team roto, let alone standard points.

The hope is he becomes a Trevor's story of Colorado. Yeah, that would be, yeah, the very high-end outcome for Ezekiel Tovar. Let's wrap up with this, Frank. I think this is a good way to just kind of bring everything home. We all love fantasy baseball, right? That's why we play it. That's why we do the podcast here. Why do you love fantasy baseball?

Because this is a question that you gave to us and you wanted to answer. So why do you love it? Okay, so I love fantasy baseball because I find that it is the most intriguing fantasy aspect to creating a team. I like the fact that there's so many positions and there's so much variety ability in terms of the team. No two fantasy teams are really alike in baseball.

There's so much ability to craft a winner in different ways. That along with, I think this might be the teacher in me, but it really teaches critical thinking and problem solving and understanding that there are many different ways. to get to a solution, and there's not just one way. And I think within the draft, you kind of realize that

when you actually go backwards and kind of figure out, hey, if I can take Jonathan India here, then that means I don't need to maybe necessarily pull on a second baseman in round one or two or whatever it happens to be. So I think, you know, overall, I think we all just love fantasy baseball. And for me, it's the most excited.

And I think something else that's unique to fantasy baseball, just compared to the other fantasy sports, is how different the formats are, right? And we're constantly trying to talk about the differences between Roto and head to head to add categories and head to head points and just address the different formats. And there are so many different ways to win and build teams in different formats.

I don't know that you can like fantasy footballs and nothing against it. It's pretty straightforward, right? It's like it's PPR, it's not PPR. Like you wanna score touchdowns, you want catches, right? Like pretty straightforward. So many different ways to play fantasy baseball. And that's a point I brought up to ADP Frank.

about the variety of positions in baseball relative to football. Football is basically just, to a certain degree, it's just wide receivers and running backs, right? At some point you've got to mix in your quarterback. At some point, you've got to mix in your tight end. But that's basically it. And so there are only so many paths you can take there. But in baseball, there's so much more game planning and personalizing you can do for your roster.

We talk about one of the pieces we would do for football every year is this like pick, by pick series where if you're picking first here's what your team's going to look like and we've talked about doing something like that for baseball but it's like there's so much you can only really do that for the first like three rounds and then it's like if you take ellie de la cruz in the second round in the sixth spot or the 12th spot your team is going to look drastically different than anyone else's who picks from that spot and so it's it's definitely uh there there's a lot less homogeneity in the way you build teams in baseball than football for sure. Absolutely.

All right. He is ADP Frank. We appreciate everything that you brought to the table here today. Thank you guys so much. It's been a great time. Yeah, obviously for donating to a great cause. So thank you for joining us. We appreciate it, man.

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