Fantasy Baseball Today - Dynasty Roto Mock Draft Review; No Minor-League Season? (05/04 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)
Episode Date: May 4, 2020We're reviewing a 12-team dynasty Roto mock draft we did but first, may the fourth be with you! Late last week we had some news that there might not be a minor-league season (5:15). How does that affe...ct the timeline of players in 2020? ... Diving into our startup dynasty mock draft, what are the differences between Roto and H2H points (18:55). Taking a look at the first round, would you rather have Fernando Tatis or Alex Bregman? Did Gerrit Cole get drafted too early at six? ... What happened towards the end of the first round and the early second round (26:20)? How should you feel about Trea Turner in dynasty given speed is his biggest asset. Also, who does Scott prefer between Rafael Devers and Jose Ramirez? ... What else happened in the second round (33:00)? Can you make Gerrit Cole and Jacob deGrom work in dynasty? Will Yordan Alvarez ever play a position? Should Wander Franco be drafted this early? ... Who do you prefer between Jo Adell and Luis Robert (39:15)? Who would Scott take between Chris Paddack and Lucas Giolito (42:30)? Why does Adam build his dynasty roster around younger hitters (46:35). If you miss out on a younger player, should you just take an older one and prospects? ... Email us at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com. 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @CBSFantasyBB, @AdamAizer, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Download our printable Draft Kit from CBSSports.com/draftkit! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's Frank, Scott, Chris, and Adam.
Happy Monday, everybody, and welcome to Fantasy Baseball today.
Frank here with Adam.
Scott, gentlemen, may the Fourth be with you.
Is it accurate to call, I assume Chris was like the biggest Star Wars fan on the podcast.
Is that fair to say?
Oh, yeah.
That's not even here for May the Fourth.
What kind of Star Wars fan is he?
He was tweeting about Star Wars this morning, and I didn't even think it was because of May
the Fourth that didn't even cross my mind.
It was just another Monday for Chris tweeting about Star Wars movies.
That's what he does.
Yeah, I just feel bad for Star Wars because the very next day is a much, much, much
better holiday.
Oof, right?
That's not really a hot take.
I mean, Cinco de Mayo's awesome.
Well, it's much longer standing than
when it May the fourth start.
I mean, obviously, May the fourth
has been a day on the calendar.
Yeah, it's equally
as old as Cinco de Mayo.
When did people start
calling it Star Wars Day?
I'm not sure, but all you get to do is dress up.
You get to actually eat, like, great
food on May the 5th.
I only remember hearing of it like within the last
five, ten years.
So it's,
you know.
I know,
for me,
it's even sooner than that,
I feel like,
but yeah.
It's a,
it's a bigger phenomenon
because of baseball,
because normally,
like,
fans at the game
are just,
like,
dressed up like crazy
Star Wars characters.
Yeah.
Do you guys actually like Star Wars?
Are you big fans?
I like Star Wars.
I want to call myself a big fan,
but.
Frank,
don't do this to me,
please.
Adam,
you don't have any,
do you have any controversial
Star Wars takes?
My controversial take was that
I didn't like Star Wars,
but then I watched
The original star, when I grew up, I thought it was such a boring movie, a New Hope.
Yeah.
And then I watched it a few years ago, and I was like, it's really good.
Well, I feel like if you see it too young, it is boring.
It's not.
Yeah, but I, so I decided they had a marathon, right?
And I was going to, I devoured all three of them, the episodes four, five, and six.
And I watched the New Hope and I really liked it.
I was like, this is great.
And that was probably almost three years ago.
And the other two are still on my devour.
are. I still haven't seen them. So I would really like to find out if I like Star Wars. I caught a little
bit of, I think, the Phantom Menace. Is that the one with Liam Neeson, Fandemannis? Yes. Yeah.
It looked terrible. It was like really cheesy and stupid. Darth Mall looks awesome though.
But, but yeah, I mean, I really, I'm sure I'm going to love Empire Strikes Back because a new hope was
great, but I always grew up thinking that was such a crappy, boring movie. So I never gave Star Wars a chance.
Yeah, if you like the original Star Wars, which later became known as a New Hope, right?
I think you'll be happy with the entire original trilogy.
But, you know, it's, there are opinions vary from there, how good the rest of them are,
both the prequel and then the sequel trilogies.
So, you know, I think, I think the disparity between the three trilogies.
is less than some people make it out to be,
but I also don't think the best of them is,
is, you know, awe-inspiring necessarily either.
I'm sure it was at the time when it came out.
I mean, I feel like the Star Wars franchise,
like the biggest thing it did is kind of change the way movies are paced.
And because I go watch anything pre-Star Wars,
which, you know, the original Star Wars is older than I am.
So all of these movies,
anything that came out before it, obviously older than,
the 9-a-am, too.
So I go back and watch them and, like, man,
some of them just move so slow.
Even if there's good stuff in there,
I don't have the patience to get to it.
I'm not as far behind as Adam, admittedly.
I don't really remember the original movie,
so I got to go back and watch those.
But I think I've seen up to seven,
so I need to watch, like, the eighth and a ninth movie.
I haven't watched a Mandalorian, so I don't know.
I've got some catching up to do.
But for everyone out there, who is a big Star Wars fan,
May the fourth be with you.
And may the sports be with you if you're a big baseball's fan.
Today on the show we're going to talk about how
if there's no MLB minor league season, minor league baseball season,
how does that affect fantasy baseball for this year?
And it's obviously very relevant because dynasty drafts are still taking place right now.
Dynasty transactions, I assume, are still being made right now.
So we're going to review a startup Dynasty roto mock draft that we did last
Thursday a couple of weeks ago, maybe almost a month ago now. We did a startup dynasty
head-to-head points league, and last week we did a Roto one. So we're going to talk about
some of the results from that and how this may affect fantasy baseball if there's no minor
league baseball season. And that's where I'd like to start, Scott. I know that you've answered
a few questions in some of the mailbag columns that you've done for cbsports.com, but it's not
looking good. I mean, there's no definitive answer yet, but we saw a few reports last week that
there might not be a minor league baseball season.
How might that affect the timeline of specific players?
I know it's going to change based on like team context,
but how are you handling the situation right now, Scott?
First of all, I'm going to go ahead and say,
I don't see how there's any way.
There's a minor league season.
As many hoops as they're going to have to jump through
to get a major league season off the ground
and as much as they're going to have to change
and we've talked about some of the possibilities there.
Minor League Baseball being far more expansive
and far less lucrative.
I just don't see how they're going to be able to pull that off.
So I think one idea that's been bandied about that makes sense
is kind of a taxi squad situation where,
A, you give your best prospects a chance to continue their development.
It wouldn't be so much divided by levels,
but just a group of your best prospects tagging along with the big league club.
If it's at spring training sites, it would make more sense,
because obviously there's backfields they can play on.
If not, then they're going to have to get more creative.
But I think it's going to be necessary to have some kind of taxi squad
just so that you can have players to promote
when somebody inevitably gets injured or is just too bad to keep on the roster.
I understand rosters are expanded,
and so that can help teams play a man or two down.
But even if they're as big as 30,
there's going to come a point in the season for several teams probably
where they're missing more than five guys,
four or five guys at a time,
and they're going to need a pool of players to draw from.
Those players are going to have to have been playing in some capacity
in order to be of any use to them.
So I think that makes the most sense.
And it's also why I'm not really,
on board with this idea that every team is going to want their top prospects, all of their
top prospects on the major league roster, on the expanded major league roster.
I don't think that's necessarily how they're going to use those four extra roster spots.
In some cases, it will be, but I think it'll have to be clear to the team that that player is
ready to contribute doesn't need any more development time so that there.
they're not, you know, they're not wasting a bunch of service time and they're not wasting
a roster spot that they're very likely going to then have to replace with somebody else on
the taxi squad who may even be less close to being Major League Ready than the player they had on
there originally. So, you know, I, somebody like Nate Pearson of the Blue Jays, who was making
a lot of noise this spring, probably the most buzzed about player in all of spring training.
And the main concern was, well, he'll go down to save some service time and to, to,
control his innings better. Well, in a shorter season, you don't worry so much about the
innings. I think the way surface time is supposed to work in a shortened season, that
wouldn't be so much of concern. It's either you get a year or you don't. I think. I'm not totally
positive about that. But yeah, I think Nate Pearson would probably be in Dylan Carlson of the Cardinals,
since they'll have an extra lineup spot to work with, makes sense. I actually went through every team,
all 30 teams, and pointed out the player who I expected to begin in the minors, who might be of most
interest and actually likely to be on an expanded roster.
And I only came up with like, only like five of them are top prospects.
The others are more like organizational depth guys with maybe some interesting upside,
like a Kevin Crone type, you know, or Thai, Thai France of the Padres.
Players like that, I think make more sense than top prospects for most teams.
it's fair to say that it won't really be handled all of that differently, right?
Because, you know, something that Chris brought up last week when we were doing the live podcast stream was we had a question about Nate Pearson and he said, you know, he thinks that Pearson would make it to the bigs this year, even in a short and season with the Blue Jays, because he can help them compete.
I mean, that's how teams normally handle prospects is if they can help them win and they're close to competing, then why wouldn't?
they call said player up. I remember last year, like Ryan Mountcastle was ready, and I was
stashing him everywhere, but the Orioles never called him up because they're not close to competing.
So that's, that would likely be the same situation in a shorter season, right? Like, if anyone's
asking about like Jared Kalenik, like, why would the Mariners try and start his clock now? It just
doesn't make sense, right? Well, yeah, somebody like Kalenik, who's barely played it even
double A. Mount Castle was actually who I picked for the Orioles. I don't see how they could hold them
back anymore, especially since it would likely mean holding him back for the whole season.
I mean, he was MVP of the International League last year. He was fighting for a job this spring.
He looks like he'd be in. But yeah, somebody who's a step away still hasn't totally proven
himself at every level of the minor leagues and isn't playing for an organization with any
ambitions for 2020. So like Kalenik, you mentioned. But I would even say McKenzie Gore. That seems like
a stretch to think he's going to go from barely playing at double A to a member of the Padres
rotation, knowing the risks that would come with progressing him that quickly. I think he'd
more likely be a taxi squad guy, and maybe we end up seeing him down the line if the Padres are
in contention, but I don't see it from the very get-go. We keep hearing that word taxi squad,
just so we know that that just means like practice team. It's kind of like a scout team,
but those players are on your roster, right? Like you can call those players up. That's, that's
we're approaching taxi squad?
Yeah.
Taxi, I assume the term comes from,
they're traveling with you.
They're taxing with you, right?
Someone asked me over the weekend,
I'm like, honestly, I've never been asked
what a taxi squad is,
and that's just what I'm assuming it is.
It's like a practice scout team of players
that you can call up from your roster.
So there you go.
That's how no minor league season might affect 2020.
I mean, we're still,
waiting the details of, you know, if we're going to have a season, what the season is going to look like.
But I remain optimistic.
What if there's also the, okay, prospect starts the year with the team he's playing.
He struggles.
What do you do?
We can't just send him down like Kestan Hira, right?
Kestan Hira, actually his numbers before he got sent back down weren't that bad.
But that's because he hit three home runs in four days, like right before getting sent down.
But he was, he was pretty useless.
And I wasted a lot of fad.
We were talking about fab last week.
I wasted a lot of fab on Kestin Hira.
he didn't do much for the first like two to three weeks when he was up um he got hot for a few
games got sent down for a month it came back up and it was really good i dropped him so that was
bad fat but i don't know what happens and that's it's like do they just keep him up well if there
if there is this is why i think there'll have to be a taxi squad is because you need to be able to
make those transactions uh and what also why i don't think teams are going to make a leap for a player
who's still a couple of weeks away because then what do you do if he struggles?
Right.
Is anybody on your taxi squad going to be more ready than he is?
Right.
Without that fallback option of going back down, getting your confidence back up,
I'm concerned that the teams won't want to take a risk with a player if they don't think he's ready.
Because I do think that they would worry about a hitter's confidence,
not having to be able to throw him back down to a league where he could dominate.
You know what I mean?
Go beat up on AAA pitching.
If they might not want to rush these guys, that's how I see it.
Yeah, I think it would be bad for some of those lower level players who have dominated, right?
So you wouldn't see something like a, you know, for example, last year, Nico Horner got called up from AA
because the Cubs were just desperate and they had nobody else.
Like, I don't know that you would see something like that happened in a shortened season just because,
A, is he even going to be on the taxi squad
And B, why would they, you know, push someone like that
Who is still at a lower level?
So it's kind of a combination of what both of you guys have brought up here
But I think, again, they're not going to be aggressive
A, if they're not ambitious for the season
And B, if those guys are not close to being ready.
So that's currently how I'm handling it
When it comes to, you know, potentially no minor league baseball season
Which, as of now, it's not looking very good.
Some news and notes from over the weekend
Emmanuel Class A suspended 80 games for PEDs.
He was the prize possession in the Corey Kluber trade,
which sent Kluber to the Rangers and Emmanuel Class A to the Cleveland Indians.
Last year, Class A had 12 saves in 14 attempts in the minor leagues,
and it's kind of regarded or I think viewed as the closer of the future for the Cleveland Indians,
although I like James Corrinczak as well.
So we'll see what happens there, but he's suspended for 80 games,
regardless of what happens with the season.
ESPN will broadcast one KBO game per day.
A lot of people have been asking questions about the KBO.
The opening day is technically 1 a.m. Eastern time on Tuesday morning.
So we'll dabble here and there.
We'll talk about a little bit of what's going on there.
But obviously it just depends on the demand of the KBO.
Have either of you guys claimed a KBO team, by the way?
No.
NC Dinos for life.
Come on, guys.
I mean, I haven't looked in.
do it yet.
We'll see.
I like the...
Wait, how do you pronounce it?
I've always pronounced it Wyvern.
Like when I played, like,
role-playing video games, you know?
I know you're talking about.
There's like those big, like that type things, right?
Is it Wivern?
Wyvern?
Wivern?
I thought it was Wivern.
Wivern?
The S.K. Wiverns?
Is that where you're leaning?
That sounds like a smarter way, but, you know.
It's probably first introduced to the term of a 10-year-old.
The team is like a Samsung Lions.
I think every team but one or two is sponsored.
I'm going to go with the Little Giants.
Ooh.
Google's saying Wyvern.
Of course, it's the Lot Giants or the L-O-T-E Giants,
but it looks like Little Giants.
I'm going to take them.
All right, all right.
The Lot Giants.
Is there anyone on there that we might recognize?
Scrolling through roster.
Every team has like three or so former major leaguers on it,
and the Giants has,
Adrian Sampson.
There you go.
Dan Strayley.
Dan Strelie.
All right.
I'm in.
Might be the most famous player
in the entire KBO.
You pointed out Aaron Altair
the other day,
Frank, he plays for
the...
NC Dinos.
Oh, NC Dinos.
That's my squad.
Okay, yeah.
Let's go, Aaron Altair.
Dan Strelie famously
was traded for Luis Castillo
when he was a prospect at that time.
Odrysamer Despanié's
on the KT.
Whiz.
So there.
I'm looking at a roster for my team,
the little giants.
There's like 50 people listed here.
There are a lot of names.
I don't know how the rosters work
or the roster transactions in the KBO.
50 players on this roster.
50 players, wow.
It's an expanded one.
But if you need some baseball, there you go.
The KBO will be broadcast one game per day on ESPN.
Giants, giants, giants.
Let's go Dinos, baby.
And according to,
Mike Petraglia, who's a Boston columnist.
Alex Verdugo, this was interesting.
I saw this right before we started.
Alex Verdugo will hold a conference call with the media this afternoon.
So not sure what that's about, but I'll throw it out there.
I know that he has been rehabbing his back injury.
I guess the penalties came down for the Red Sox.
I don't know why he would talk about that.
He wasn't involved in it, but we'll see what it's about,
what it might be regarding.
All right, before we get into the Dynasty Roto startup,
mock draft that we did. That's a mouthful. I do want to remind everyone that UFC 249 is this
Saturday, May 9th, and to make sure to check out the State of Combat with Brian Campbell podcast.
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Make sure you check out
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We'll deep dive that player, maybe give you an ETA, what we expect, you know, what they've done in the minor league so far.
But send us your five-star Apple podcast review and a prospect you want us to talk about.
And we'll start doing that here on the show as well.
All right, startup dynasty roto mock draft that we did last week.
Scott, does your strategy change at all between the head-to-head points dynasty mock draft that we did a couple of weeks ago versus this one?
Or is it just the normal differences that you'd see
in a head-to-head points draft versus roto?
Or is it just you completely change your strategy
in a Rhodo dynasty versus a head-to-head points dynasty?
I think it's mostly the differences
that you come to expect from those formats anyway.
One of the big things I've noticed about this,
and we've done this a few times now
for the startup dynasty mock.
And what makes it so interesting is like how often does anybody ever do a dynasty start a draft, right?
You do it the one time you start the league and then you never have to do it in that league again.
So how do you get practice at this?
So we're becoming a little more practiced at this now.
And one thing I've noticed in both formats, but especially this one, is that because, because,
prospects are being inserted. The biggest prospects are going earlier in the draft and they tend to be
prospect hitters. And then there's already this kind of fear of investing long term and starting pitchers.
It's easier to get the starting pitchers I want at the start of the year to be competitive,
the four out of my top 35 that I continually cite. I don't have to invest in them as hard in a dynasty
startup. And I think I actually ended up with five or six in this one, even though
I didn't take my first until round four, I don't think, or was it round three.
Gioledo, I took in round four.
In round four.
That was the first one I took, and I ended up with six of my top 35, I believe.
And, you know, I still ended up, I think, with a really good prospect hall.
Now, it's worth noting that for this process, there weren't, you know, everybody's being kept on equal terms.
There aren't specific minor league spots where players are being discounted as keepers or anything like that.
Everybody just drafts a 30-man roster and keeps as many players as they want.
So that would influence how aggressively teams go after prospects.
But, you know, something to keep in mind if you're in such a format, if it is only 12 or so teams deep,
there are a lot of prospects to go around.
And so you can still get some really high-end ones without being the guy who reaches for one in round two,
a three, four.
You know, there's, there's a lot of them out there.
And again, this was a roto mock draft.
So two catchers, you have a corner infielder, middle infielder, five outfielders,
one utility, and nine pitcher spots, which you can use however you'd like.
You can go six starting pitchers, three closers, seven and two, five and four, whatever,
however you want to set that up.
That's completely up to you.
I do want to get into some of the results here.
And Adam, you had the eighth pick.
You took Alex Bregman.
One pick before you took Bregman,
Fernando Tatez Jr. went off the board.
Would you have taken Fernando Tatees over Alex Bregman
if he were available at 8?
I would have taken Bregman,
but I was thinking to myself like, gosh,
I wonder if I can get Tatees in round two.
That would be so great.
And he actually went before my pick.
So I think I would have probably taken Tatees.
He may be my next favorite player.
You know, if Bregman had been off the board,
and Bregman is, what, 27?
26.
26.
So he's awesome.
He's pretty much a sure thing.
If he had been off the board,
I would have considered Fernando Tatis.
No, I would have taken Breckman, though.
The rest of the first round looked like this.
Pretty standard, the first half.
Ronald O'Cunia, Mike Trout, Christian Yellich,
Juan Soto at 4,
Cody Bellinger, and then Garrett Cole
at 6. A little bit early for Garrett Cole.
I don't like that pick.
Well, I don't think in a standard roto league,
a dynasty league knowing that pitchers tend to be discounted and that this one is 29 already,
yeah, I would take a slightly younger stud hitter that I felt confident would be a centerpiece
for my team for a long period of time. Yeah, but I will say, I was trying to apply the lessons
that we may have learned when we did the old versus young teams last Tuesday. And Scott and I
had to pick players that were 32 or older,
and Chris and Frank had to pick players that were, what, 24 and younger?
Yes.
And our pitching was amazing.
So we had Scherzer and Verlander and DeGrom and Granky and Morton and Darvish and whatever.
Like our pitching was better than your pitching.
So I think you might look at a guy like Garrett Cole,
who's basically had two workhorse seasons of greatness in a row,
and maybe he's a guy that's going to be able to do it until he's 35.
maybe he's that Scherzer, that Verlander type player.
And those workhorse pitchers, some of them tend to age pretty well.
So maybe that's not a bad pick.
I'm not sure that's the right lesson to take away.
Maybe it is.
Maybe it's going to continue that way where older pitchers just tend to be the biggest workhors in the league
because they're not developing anymore.
You're not sure how much gas they have left anyway,
so you're just going to run them as hard.
as they need to be run at that stage of their career.
But I think it's more the old guys, the old starting pitchers now
are carryovers from a former time where every starting pitcher was worked that hard.
And now they're just grandfathered in already.
But how is Garik-Col any different?
Well, because since he's already built up to a point where he goes that deep into games,
that's fair.
Yeah, it seems like he's built that, like he has that workhorse build
where he can go deep into games.
It's hard to say anyone's going to consistently give you over 200
in today's pitching climate.
But if there was one person who was going to do that,
I think most people would guess Garrett Cole.
And the other thought I have was like,
well, maybe I'll take the opposite approach and say,
God, if I get right with Walker Bueller,
maybe I've got 10 to 12 years with, you know, probably some up-down years in there.
But maybe he's the next Kershaw or something like that.
Maybe we're talking double the time as Cole.
But I wouldn't have taken Cole there,
but I think I could make a case for it
and I thought the way our young versus old teams shook out
with the pitching being so much better on our teams, on the old team
and like the middle infielders in particular being so much worse
and we see the way that the Robinson Canoe's age.
Like Scott and I had to pick a second baseman in a shortstop
that was 32 or older and the best ones we had were Canoe and Brandon Crawford.
So that was in the back of my mind too.
And then of course I took Breggman.
but he can move around and, you know.
But I don't know, that did occur to me that those older pitchers, they age well,
and those middle infielders really don't.
So it's something to keep in mind, but I still would have taken Bregman and Tatee,
who's super young over a cold.
The second half of the first round mentioned Tatease went seventh pick.
Adam took Alex Bregman.
Scott took Mookie Betts at nine.
I took Francisco Lindor at 10.
Then Trey Turner and Trevor Story went off the board to round out the first round.
The second round,
Can I ask you guys how you feel about Turner, though?
Because you got to be careful.
And we saw it with VR.
He went in the eighth round,
and Marte went in the sixth round.
When you're talking about Roto,
obviously you're drafting for steals.
But that's something that could deteriorate with age.
Or maybe these guys just become like steel specialists,
you know, like a Rajay Davis or something.
But, I mean, I don't think Turner is necessarily that old.
But do you concern,
yourself because he's 26.
To concern yourself that in two years, he's like a 15 steel guy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, what do you think about Turner in a Dynasty League, 11th overall, given speed might
decline?
The thought crossed my mind.
I was glad I wasn't the one who really faced that choice in the first round, because
you know, in a redraft league, I have Turner going six.
He's my number six guy, because I'm that concerned with filling those steals early.
I do think, let's see, 26.
he's going to be 27 at the end of June.
I think that's still young enough that you can feel pretty confident in him
continuing to be a standout in that category for the next three or four years.
And so I'm not going to shy away from him because of that.
But I do think he gets downgraded versus somebody whose skills feel more bankable for the long haul.
like if you're doing the Alex Breggman versus Trey Turner compares,
and as you did at him, you went with Bregman,
even though in a redraft league I would go Turner in five-by-five scoring.
I probably would lead Bregman in this format as well,
in the dynasty format.
Yeah, if you want to talk about a player who loses value in Dynasty versus redraft,
especially in Roto, I think Trey Turner is one of those players.
And I considered the same things that Scott did.
I mean, I'm happy Lindor was there for me at 10.
I would have taken Trevor Story ahead of Trey Turner as well.
I mean, there's still a chance that Trevor Story loses some stolen bases the next couple of years.
But I think his power is a little bit more bankable.
And hopefully he stays in Corse Field and in Colorado.
So his numbers continue to be boosted there.
But I probably would have also considered Walker Bueller ahead of Trey Turner.
I know that typically we downgrade pitching a little bit, but that's just where I would be in.
Well, would you have taken Devers over him?
Because I was like, oh, he's probably going to take Devers in the first round.
and then bam, Frank gets him in the second round.
Man, it would be a tough call,
but I think I would still take Trey Turner over Devers.
I mean, Scott's right.
I think for the next at least three years,
and everyone's different with how they value Dynasty.
They want to look at it from a five-year window, a 10-year window,
but I think three to five years is kind of like that sweet spot.
And I think at least for the next three or four years,
Trey Turner will be a 30-plus steel contributor.
I still don't think that we've seen the best from Trey Turner.
I think that we could still get one of those
25 Homer or 40 seal seasons out of him.
I don't think that's crazy.
Okay.
The second round, Walker Bueller, Jack Flerty,
I took Raphael Devers,
Scott took Jose Ramirez,
Adam took Glaber Torres.
Yeah, I was, Jose Ramirez.
Homer.
Would have felt a lot better.
I think Adam wound up with like six or seven Yankees
on this team, by the way.
Not enough.
Not enough Yankees.
Scott, I wanted to ask you,
if Devers was there, would you have taken Rafael Devers over Jose Ramirez?
I'm not sure.
I wasn't in the moment I wasn't really, it wasn't one of those situations where I was looking for a certain player to fall to me.
And then I was like, oh, Frank sniped me by taking Devers.
It was just, I don't know.
I didn't think about who I was taking until the moment I was on the clock.
And I was happy to see Ramirez there to get those steals from a player who's still in his 20s.
I believe he's 27 now.
Ramirez so you know it's not like ages working against him at this point and I was I was just happy to get
a steel source who was expected to be a big time contributor in other categories as well and
pairing him and mooky bets with my first two picks first of all that's nothing you'd ever see in a redraft league
it's very unlikely anyway that I don't know about that's and Jose Ramirez I think you could take
that's fifth or sixth than Ramirez in the second round. It's possible, I guess, but you don't see it
very often. And I think it's a very good start for that ever so elusive category from two players
who I don't think deserve to fall because it's a dynasty format. They're both 27 and should have a lot
of good years left. So, yeah, I'm really happy with that start. I was happy with the way my team
turned out all around. Oh, we know. Oh, yeah. Scott. Scott doesn't use.
chatting away in the middle of a draft,
but he couldn't resist.
He was like, I love my team.
I do.
I wish I could pull the chat up.
I still do.
Maybe I can't.
It's, it's, it's, for all,
of all the roto teams I drafted,
it feels like the one that is most well stocked
with high end pitching and well stocked
with stolen bases, the two scarces commodities.
And yet, I don't feel like I had to sell out my future to do it.
So yeah, I'm very happy with the way it turned out.
Scott said,
I know nobody needs things.
hear this comma, but dot, dot, dot, I'm really loving my team. And I had the next comment
and I said, let's tear it apart. Yeah, basically reminding everyone that it's child's play.
No, and then I wrote, geez, do you have enough starting pitchers whose last name begins with
G Scott? He said, I noticed that too. He must have a lot of those. We'll find out.
So I took Raphael Devers over Jose Ramirez.
And typically I tend to lean with players who are in their low to mid-20s,
who are contributors now but can also continue to get better.
So that's why I went with Devers over Jose Ramirez.
And to me, Ramirez is not the same type of player as Trey Turner,
where I could see his stolen bases potentially falling off sooner.
Oh, I completely agree.
Than Trey Turner's.
So, I mean, by, you know, a year or two from now, is he a,
280 hitter with 25 home runs and 10 steals, it's still a fine player, but it's nowhere near
the player that you're getting now in the second round. He can help, I think, for the next year, too,
but I do worry about the steals with someone like Jose Ramirez more than I do with
Trey Turner. The gentleman who took Garrett Cole in the first round with the six pick took
Jacob de Grom in the second round. So if we think Garrett Cole is a little bit early, yeah,
I actually don't think this is bad value for Jacob de Grom, but would you guys ever start
Cole and de Grom in a dynasty league?
No way.
Yeah, I don't think I could do it either.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Just too many...
You're definitely playing a shorter game by doing that.
And I don't think...
Well, of course, hindsight's 2020 in the way this draft played out.
I don't think justifies him doing this,
seeing some of the pitching bargains that came up later.
But I...
There is usually somebody in...
at the start of the Dynasty League,
who just completely sells out for right now.
And I'd be curious to see if this is also the guy
who got, like, Justin Verlander.
Yes, he did.
I was planning on taking Verlander.
I took Scherzer in round six.
He took Verlander in round seven.
Yeah.
Pretty good pitching staff.
At least for the first or second year in this league.
And it's not like, look, his third pick is Ozzy Albies.
So it's not like he was just...
always taking the old guy.
And it didn't pay to take the old guy
because a lot of old guys fell to
to a great value.
I mean, Justin Verlander,
you can't knock a guy
for taking Justin Verlander
at a dynasty startup
when it's in round seven.
You know,
which is where he took him.
Yeah, so he goes,
he goes, Cole, this is Garrett.
He goes Cole de Grom.
And then his next three picks
are like young, young infielder's,
Ozzie Albiz,
Catele, Marte, Javier Baez.
And then he took Starling,
Marte in round six and Marte is usually like a round three maybe around four pick in a dynasty league
but he's 31 so it's not bad it's not yeah but you just got to wonder what his pitching staff is going
like in two years yeah it's a little he gets Cory Kluber later Yasmani Grundal it's it's older than
his ideal I think but he definitely has strong pitching to start out the year and it's not like he
I wouldn't say he reached for it.
What position to change the subject, sorry?
Jordan Alvarez, going forward,
because he went in between Mike Labor Torres
and Garrett's Jacob de Grompec,
right in the middle of round two.
Is he going to be just a DA?
Is he just going to be David Ortiz,
or are they going to give him a position?
That is a very important question to ask
when you are drafting Jordan Alvarez in a Dynasty League.
I'm not confident he's going to have a position.
It seems like outfield is where they're more willing to play him than first base right now.
He got some exposure to first base in the minors,
but he apparently was just so bad that they don't want to do it.
And if that's the case at first base,
that's supposed to be where you stick the bad defender in the majors, right?
Yeah.
How bad is he?
And this is when he's in his early 20s and presumably at his most athletic.
So, yeah, I think he's probably.
probably destined for D.H. long term. But I could be wrong. I don't know.
Frank, I'm sorry for derailing your show. No, no, it's perfectly fine. I know. It's a fair question.
And Yulee Guriel, current first basement for the Astros, is coming up on 36 years old.
So I guess if there was a position Yerdon Alvarez was going to play, it's probably first base.
But I lean with Scott here. I think that given what we know about his knees already, I mean, the guy has bad knees.
He's like 22 years old, cannot play in the outfield.
Yeah, there's some worry there.
So I don't know that he's going to be able to play the field.
You know, maybe in season he'll gain outfield eligibility a few years
because he'll get like those five games here and there, five starts.
But he's not going to play 20 games in the outfield to have it for the following year as well.
So there'll be years where I think he gains the outfield eligibility
or maybe gains for his base eligibility.
But I think for the most part, they want to play him at DH,
which is just such a weird thing.
You just, you barely ever see that from a 22-year-old kid, so it's just crazy to see.
Wander Franco went with the 21st pick in this draft.
That's like a normal range for him to go in a dynasty startup, right, Scott?
Well, I mean, everyone we do, we do with B-Don from Rassball, and B-Don's always the one who takes him in round too.
That's true.
So, B-Don has certainly determined that that's where Wander-Franco needs to go in a dynasty startup.
and, you know, if we were to do one,
and I saw Wander Franco there in round three,
I don't know if B. Don's just calibrated me to think that's great value,
but I probably would take him at that point, yeah.
This is completely random, but I'm actually in a startup dynasty draft right now.
It's a slow draft, and Wander Franco went with pick 42.
It's a 5x5 roto with OBP.
So he goes towards the end of the third round.
It's a 15-team league.
But see, like I have actual dynasty rankings.
And you know what?
I don't think I'd take Wanderfranco in round three.
Because I actually got Kestan Hura in round three, who himself is 23 years old.
Already has half a season where he showed he could be a high-end performer in the majors.
I mean, last year between the majors and minors, it was close to 40 homers, close to 20 steals.
Second base eligibility.
obviously youth is in his favor.
I'd go with Kestan Hero over Wander Franco,
given the setup of this Dynasty League,
if it was keeping Wander Franco for cheaper
than Kest and Hero, it'd be different.
But that's not the way this one's set up.
Everyone's kept on equal terms.
I'd rather have the semi-proven guy
who's already contributing
and shows an enormous ceiling himself.
And you snipe me, Scott.
You can't say it.
wanted Kessonhira. I just took him in that startup dynasty league that I just mentioned. I took
him in the third round of a 15 team league. But I did want him in this one and you took him one pick before
me. I did want to just ask your guy's opinion. Joe Adele, you know, once you see Wanderfranco
go off the board in the late second round, Joe Adele is the first pick of the third round. So you start
to see a little bit of a prospect run here in this startup dynasty mock draft. But the problem I have
with the pick is that everyone's different. It's subjective with prospects.
What should he, I mean, is there really a case that you could make for Joe Adele going ahead of
Luis Robert in a rotel league? Because he went two picks ahead of Luis Robert.
I think you'll definitely find traditional prospect rankings with Adel ahead of Robert.
I don't know off the top of my head which ones and where, but I know they're out there.
But fantasy context, particularly five by five contexts.
I kind of feel like Adele is hoping to have.
the kind of breakthrough in the miners this year that Robert had last year.
Like it's similar skill sets and he just needs more production.
And we're kind of hoping he takes that Robert turn.
So why not just take the guy who he's trying to emulate there?
That's kind of how I see it.
I'd definitely take Robert over Adele.
But there is probably an argument that exists for Adele over Robert.
I'm just not the one to give it.
Is it too simple to go with the guy who's in the better home ballpark?
It's a pretty big difference, Chicago to Los Angeles.
It's fair.
I mean, it comes down to how you value like ETA.
Like, Adele's probably going to be up at some point this year,
but it seemed like Robert was going to be in the majors who start the season.
We all knew that he has the contract extension.
So you don't have any worry about that.
I just think in terms of, yes, Adele's very athletic,
but I mean, we've already seen the big steals production out of Robert.
It just didn't really make much sense to me.
I don't know that Adele should go two picks ahead of Luis Robert
in a five-by-five roto dynasty startup.
So I just wanted to bring that to you guys attention.
I don't think they should go ahead of Vlad either.
No.
Yeah.
And Vlad went with the fifth pick of the third round.
That's, I mean, that's the thing that I,
I guess is one of my biggest takeaways from this.
And we've talked about it before.
Prospects just seem to be what people want in Dynasty leagues.
They're just excited to be able to draft them.
And I feel like a lot of times it doesn't make sense to take a prospect over even a semi-established guy like Hira, like Guerrero.
I mean, at this time a year ago, Guerrero probably would have gone in round two, you know?
And here he is going in round three because his half season in the majors was a little disappointing.
But he's still early 20s and still has as much upside as he always did.
It's just now we know he's not going to completely stink in the majors.
He has a job that he should be pretty secure in.
If anything, it feels like it should go up.
But just because he doesn't have that rookie eligibility anymore, it seems like he's dinged for that.
And I just want to stress, in some dynasty leagues, it would make sense.
because some are set up so that minor leaguers are kept for cheaper than major leaguers,
but that's not the way we set this one up.
I want to skip forward a little bit to the fourth round,
and I took Chris Paddock with the third pick of the fourth round.
He was my first starting pitcher that I took.
I started my draft with Francisco Lindor, Rafael Devers,
and then Eloy Jimenez at the end of the third round.
And I took Chris Paddock ahead of Gialito.
Scott, were you considering Paddock by any chance,
Or were you just excited to see Lucas Gialito still available there in the fourth round?
No, I was considering Paddock.
I had Lucas Gialito ranked ahead of him, obviously in redraft leagues I do,
but also in my dynasty top 150, I had Gialito ahead of Paddock, not by as much.
But I was considering taking Paddock just because I felt like past dynasty startups
have shown me that enthusiasm is higher for Paddock than Gialito,
and maybe that was my better way of getting both of them.
you kind of saved me from what probably would have been a bad choice
because I doubt I would have gotten both Paddock and then Gioledo back in round five.
So, but yeah, it was between those two for me.
I definitely wanted to take a picture at that point, four rounds in,
not having a starting pitcher yet that definitely gives me anxiety,
heading into, given the environment we're playing in right now.
So Gialito being a 25-year-old, I mean, you know,
know, this is just for what I expect for him from 2020, it seems like good value. And then
hopefully he has a good long future of high-end production ahead of him. Yeah, the reason I ask is
because I was actually debating those two exact guys. And I went with Paddock. I guess he's one
year younger than Gialito. The fact that he does have better command is something that factored in
there. But it's definitely close. It's definitely close between Paddock and Gialito. And we hear often
that, you know, starting pitching goes later in a Dynasty League versus in a redraft league.
And I looked this up. We did a roto mock draft, a regular roto redraft mock draft recently.
And eight starting pitchers were drafted through three rounds in this draft, in a dynasty one.
11 starting pitchers were drafted through three rounds in the redraft.
But through four rounds, it was 13 for dynasty and 13 for redraft.
So while I think that can be true in the early rounds of these drafts,
I think by the time you get like the fourth, fifth round,
you have like the same number of starting pitchers off the board
in redraft versus dynasty, if that makes sense.
I feel like it's more so just for the early round picks, Scott.
I don't think that's true because I think the ones who haven't gone yet,
yeah, maybe they cut, they had happened to catch up here in round four,
but the ones who still haven't gone are the many old guys who pop up.
populate the top of the starting pitcher rankings.
So, like, my, so my first pick here was GioLito in round four.
My second I didn't take until round six, but it was Patrick Corbin.
Who's not even that old.
He's 30.
And then, you know, we talked about Justin Verlander going in round seven.
Max Scherzer in round six.
And it gets really delayed after that.
Sunny Gray, I got in round nine.
Right.
Right, there are some young guys going in here,
like sprinkled throughout,
Jesus Lazzardo, Michael Copac,
Julio O'Reas,
Frankie Mowentas, Zach Gallin,
a lot more of those guys.
Trevor Bauer went in run seven.
That's true.
I haven't done like an assessment of anybody
with the starting,
anyone who happens to be eligible at starting pitcher
whether or not they're established as an A's
or still a prospect or whatever.
Maybe it is distributed a little more evenly,
but the starting pitchers,
those few dozen starting pitchers
who I actually trust right now
to be an asset,
to be a positive contributor
to a fantasy team,
they were spread out much more
throughout the draft,
which is how I ended up
with six of the 35.
And for me, Frank, it's like,
I need to build the core
of my roster around young hitter.
And a young pitcher
would have to really fall into my lap.
My pitching, you know,
I changed my strategy
midway through the draft.
It was just,
I just felt
the veterans were not getting enough love, and I was just like, you know what, screw this.
I'm going to win this year.
So, you know, I ended up with Max Scherzer, Zach Ranky, James Paxton, and then I tried to get a little bit younger after that.
But I just kind of felt like I'm going to have among the best pitching.
And I have good young hitters, but my first five picks were hitters.
Freeman was the only one that's not young.
And then I pivoted and I said, okay, I just felt I just felt like people were like pretty heavy.
on prospects, unproven guys, and now these veteran pitchers are falling.
So I decided to take some old pitchers win this year.
And then I have Ian Anderson, Davy Garcia, Matthew Libertore, Grayson Rodriguez, Domingo
Armand, all on my bench.
I've got some prospects.
Hopefully two of them will work out.
But I just, when it comes to drafting pitchers, I cannot pass up young hitter.
who I know are good, who are, you know, in 24-ish or whatever,
I can't pass up building my team around those guys
and at least having a few of them before I start looking at pitchers.
So that was my approach to it.
That's a really good point,
because for how much my philosophy has changed
hitting versus pitching in a redraft league,
I don't think it really has when you're talking about prospect evaluation
or just young up-and-comer,
not even necessarily a prospect,
how we evaluate their career path.
I think hitters are much more bankable than pitchers
when projecting for the long haul,
and that's even truer at a time when offense comes so easily.
So I want really strong pitching,
but it has to be already established pitching,
because if it's not,
I don't trust that it's ever going to get
to that high-end standard
that seems to make all the difference at that position right now.
So, yeah, I'm, you know, that's why in a dynasty league like this,
I still want to invest early, most heavily in young position players.
And I think it's just seeing how it turned out
that I could still get those established arms that I value so much
just for later, because so many young players pushed them down to a certain
point. I think it's
kind of like right in my
wheelhouse in terms of how I would
like to build a dynasty team
and the things I value
most today. Let me ask you, how
do you feel about
my pitching
prospects? In addition to having Scherzer
Granky and Paxton, I also have
Fultenevich and Luke
Weaver and Jose Orkitti. They're starters
for me right now. But Ian Anderson...
Wait, who? Luke Weaver?
Yeah, oh, sorry. Luke Weaver.
Ian Anderson for the Braves, David Garcia and Domingo Oremont for the Yankees,
Matthew Libertori of the Cardinals, Grayson Rodriguez of the Orioles.
I mean, is that a good, I don't know prospects nearly as well as you guys do.
Is that a good roster of prospects?
I didn't take one of them.
Anderson, I took in like the 18th round out of a 30 round draft.
The other ones were all like mid-20s.
I mean, these were some of my last picks.
Yeah, yeah.
So is that a good stable of prospects, do you think?
Yeah, I mean, they're good prospects, sure.
Is that a good strategy or did I not take enough high-end pitching prospects?
I feel like for as long as I waited, I mean, I feel like I got some pretty good ones in there.
And it just didn't make sense to take like Forrest Whitley, who went much earlier, you know, like, these guys kind of fell.
No, I don't think, I don't think, well, I guess he technically is.
But how upside wise, what is the upside?
upside measurement for Forrest Whitley
versus somebody like Grayson Rodriguez.
I think upside-wise, they probably rate similar.
Whitley's a little further ahead,
but of course he also introduced some risk back
into his profile with a very disappointing,
very disappointing season last year.
So, I mean,
Grayson Rodriguez is a prospect I've been drafting a lot
in these dynasty startups
because I just think he gets pushed down
by virtue of being a little further down in the minors,
which is totally fair,
but it also is kind of getting back to the idea
I brought up at the start,
where there's just so many prospects out there
that some are going to last until late
in only a 12-team league.
And I think you did fine picking up the ones that you did
for the prices that you picked them up for.
I think the fact that it's so many starting pitching prospects,
and it leaves you more vulnerable to misses than,
somebody who maybe leaned more toward picking up minor league hitters instead.
But I don't think it's necessarily wrong.
It's just a little riskier.
Yeah, I'm not expecting all five of them to hit.
But I guess my point is if you want to draft more veteran pitchers than you thought you were going to,
there are enough prospects that you can still have a nice little staple of prospects on your bench.
This was a 30-round draft.
So, you know, I think the way I did it ended up working out for me, I have a pretty good team.
And my first four picks were Alex Bregman, Glaver Torres, Freddie Freeman.
My first five picks.
Alex Bregman, Glaver Torres, Freddie Freeman, Yoamon Munkata, and one that I really looked at.
Victor Robles.
Your feedback on, yeah, Victor Robles, which was a really interesting.
Because I really kind of hate him in seasonal leagues.
What do you do?
I hit harder than Victor Robles.
It just, like, he might just be a bad hitter.
He makes horrible contact, but he's like 23 with prospect pedigree, and he runs.
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing in the steals.
So you didn't really have any steals at that point, and maybe if I didn't either.
He's 22.
In the Dynasty League especially, I'd bank on that upside of Robles, and at least no, I get some steals there.
I was fortunate that I got bets, Jose Ramirez, and Kestinjura with my first three picks.
and basically didn't have to worry about steals anymore,
though I ended up with a couple of decent base steelers anyway.
But yeah, if you didn't have any by the time round five rolled around
and Victor Robles was there in a dynasty startup,
I think that's definitely one of the first players you look at.
But all five picks were hitters.
Freeman's the only one who's older, he's like 31.
And that just said to me, all right, like, I've got a good core.
I don't have to rely on hitting prospects.
Now let's go get some pitchers.
Max Scherzer was there in round six.
So I just feel like I could win the league this year.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Your first pitchers were Scher Grinky, Paxton.
That's three of the 35.
So you didn't get four like I'd like to have.
But then you also have Weavery, have Rikiti,
Fultenevich.
There's some upside there.
If one of those three pitches up to his ceiling,
then, you know, you're going to be in good shape
with the pitching for this year.
but your team is a little older.
Your team is a little older,
and you may have to,
you may have,
you may go through some lean years
in the next,
beginning in the next couple years because of it.
Well, it's a good thing.
I liked your mindset of,
I liked your mindset of,
you know, if you couldn't get younger pitchers,
you waited at that position,
you took some vets,
and then you kind of shored yourself up
with prospects later,
because that's exactly what I did at the first base position
because I just kept waiting and waiting
and then I wound up with Carlos Santana as my starter,
but then I also drafted Ryan Mountcastle and Nate Lowe late.
So I tried to cover myself,
and I think that that's like a good mindset to have
in a startup dynasty draft where,
look, if you miss out, it's not the end of the world
because you can take a veteran that'll help you
for the immediate future, the next season or two,
and then you can also draft a prospect at that position or positions
that can hopefully, you know, take the reins from said player.
So, I mean, is that something that you would consider doing, Scott?
Like, if you just miss out at a certain position?
I want to say, let me see if I did that in any position.
Outfields, you know, I always go weak in the outfields.
And I ended up getting mooky bets in the first round.
And Charlie Blackman, I think, in like round eight or something ridiculous.
Because that was just another one of those.
veterans who fell forever.
But my last three aren't, my last three outfield spots aren't especially strong,
but I got Austin Riley late, who, you know, he could be the, he could leave the Braves
and home runs this year, and he cost me next to nothing.
It's just so many young players like that, Nate Lowe for you, you know, if it's not a
true prospect, those kind of post-type sleepers that could end up becoming huge assets for
you for years to come, guys in their early 20s still.
Yeah, you did that with Senzel as well.
Yeah, yeah, I paid a little more for Senzel.
But yeah, that's the same sort of idea.
Just young player.
If there's no discount to keeping a minor leaguer,
you don't need to emphasize minor leaguers over more established players
who are also really young
and just happen to have exhausted rookie eligibility.
That should be a point in their favor,
that they've already done something at the major league level,
opposed to being a knock against them.
I want to make one more point, Frank.
Just the way baseball is going to change,
maybe beginning this year with just the circumstances.
But every team is going to have a DH soon.
They're going to get rid of the DH in the National League.
And that's going to extend careers.
This isn't relevant to the National League.
But I took J.D. Martinez in the seventh round.
He's typically a second round pick.
He's 32.
It's like he's 36.
So I thought that was a good pick.
And I also took Nelson Cruz in like the 14th round.
but I could see J.D. Martinez
is becoming the next Nelson Cruz and just playing forever as a DH.
So these older hitters, I think that a lot of them are going to have sort of a number of
them are going to have an extended career because the DH is going to be everywhere.
I know that Joel Sherman reported it a lot when the Mets traded for Robinson Kano.
They did it thinking we're going to be able to DH him pretty soon.
So it's coming.
It's going to help older players.
I think it saved David Ortiz's career.
It's saved Nelson Cruz's not to take away from who they are, but certainly extended
them, kept them healthy.
And it just could be another thing to make you say,
I don't want to wait too long on these hitters because if you're a great,
you have to be obviously a really good hitter.
Like J.D. Martinez deserves to be a full-time DH if that's what it comes to
and could extend his career by a few years.
No, it's a fair point.
And I think, look, when you talk about a player who has like a 900 plus OPS,
I mean, last year, Nelson Cruz had a thousand OPS.
That definitely makes sense.
And something to consider when thinking about National League players.
So if you are doing a dynasty startup, keep in mind those fringy National League players.
You know, some of the Cincinnati Reds outfielders come to mind, you know, with a DH,
Aquino could have more value there.
Senzel, who got drafted here?
Castellanos.
Did Aquino?
Did Aquino get drafted?
He did get drafted.
Okay.
Yeah.
So just keep that in mind when you're doing, if you're doing any dynasty-related, you know,
drafts or transactions throughout this time, keep in mind that.
at the National League, DH, could be here as soon as this year,
but once we have a normal baseball season again,
it could be back as soon as, I mean,
it could be here as soon as next year.
Guys, I'm looking at my team again.
I got seven of the top 35 starting pitchers, not even six.
And I didn't, are you punting saves though?
I drafted my first in round four, my second in round six.
One of them is Zach Gallen,
so definitely went the upside route with at least that one pick.
And I got seven.
Yeah, because you didn't take any closers.
I did not take any closers
I'm totally fine with it
All right well that's the thing
Scott loves his team
And then he said he loved his team
He had two outfielders and no closers at the time
And it's like well that could
That could come back to hurt you
Those are the positions where I
Am happy to be a little weaker though
Because I know there's always going to be
New options emerging
You know it's so tough though
Especially closer I mean jeez
Who are you going to drop in
In this format we don't have a taxi
squad. So when the closer comes out, like, who are you going to drop? Because obviously, you can't
drop Tariq Scoobal or Luis Severino, you know? Yeah, I think Edwin and Carnaccio is probably your first
player gone on this roster, but by the way, Luis Severino is not among the seven of the 30s. No, that was
such a great pick. But yeah, no, it could end up being a prospect who's just a little further back.
I got Marco Luciano, who's, I think was just in rookie league last year, a 17, 18 year old in the
Giants who looks like he has enormous upside, but he might just not end up being worth the weight.
So don't we need taxi squads? Are they like a requirement?
I know they are in football dynasty leagues. I don't know about baseball. I thought about making
even deeper than 30 rounds this draft. But the thing about a roto league is you don't really
need to make that much use of their bench play. You kind of just end up stashing a ton of guys
anyway.
You know, it's going to make for some tough choices,
but that's not necessarily the bad thing
in setting up a league.
And I imagine sometimes
I'll have a spot to pick up a guy
just because somebody got injured.
Luis Severino, putting him on the IL,
opens up a spot right away.
And, you know, there will be tough decisions to make,
but I know closer saves are a need for me,
and it'll be a high priority
whenever I'm playing the waiver wire.
So I'm not worried about it.
We talk about it all the time.
Half the guys we expect to be closers now
aren't going to end up leading their teams and saves
in all likelihood.
So there will be opportunities to fill that need later,
and I didn't really invest any draft capital in it at all,
which I think is a smart way to go about it in a dynasty start.
Frank, let me just get one more guy.
I thought the single most interesting pick of the draft.
Scott took him.
One pick before I was probably going to take him.
Jose Altuve in round eight.
It was...
It was so weird.
It was like Kershaw...
I get why he would fall in round eight.
Darvish was in round eight.
Al-Tube, he's 29.
But I thought that was a pretty...
Probably awesome pick.
Yeah, there seems to be a perception
that he's on the decline already.
Oh, he is.
That might technically be true.
I mean, he's not running anymore.
His bat-a-ball profile.
though he hit a career high in home runs it was worse but it just because he just because his
upside is lower now don't doesn't mean i think he's in the twilight of his career like he makes a ton of
contact he has a tiny strike zone i think he's going to age really well he just may not be
quite at that tip top level that whole time so yeah i was happy with him there like you said he's
not as old as i think a lot of people perceive him to be it was actually so i took out too vay in
round eight. It was actually round 10 where I got Blackmen. So that makes it seem even. Yeah,
I mean, at that point, it's, yeah, round 10, you could take the shot there. Even I consider Jose
Al-Tuvae in the eighth round, and I don't like Jose Ltuve. I'm off him for this year in redraft. I worry
about the leg injuries. He's dealt with knee, hamstrings the past couple of seasons. Don't think he's
going to run much anymore for five by five, but still hits in the middle of one of the better
lineups in baseball, probably still going to hit for batting average.
I mean, in round eight, even I considered it, and I'm not a big fan of Jose.
You're mad about the walkoff Homer.
We need to get over, Frank.
Maybe.
I ended up with Chura, Altuve, Max Muncie is my first baseman.
Tommy Edmund.
Tommy Edmund is my corner infielder.
That's four second base eligible player.
What does everybody else's second base spot look like?
How did I end up with so many?
I have Glaber Torres.
I wound up with Gavin Lux.
I actually took Gavin Lux, maybe a little early, fifth round.
Somebody has Vidal Bruhan, a raise prospect started there,
Rugnett Odor.
That's B. Don.
I was checking out his team.
All prospects for B. Don.
Yeah, B. Don loves building around the prospects.
A lot of people do.
You know, maybe he'll be the best team in the league in three years.
But I like to do it more in football.
The thing about prospects is their only perspective.
And that's why semi-proven guys are better
because they're less perspective.
All right, you can catch the results of that draft.
CBSports.com slash fantasy slash baseball.
That'll do it for today.
Tomorrow we have the All Disappearing Act team.
Speaking of Disappearing Acts,
I expect Chris Towers will be on that show
and he'll probably try to make another case
for Mark Pryor somehow to be on a second team.
I probably won't be on the show.
So you can put me on the All Disappearing Act team.
There you go.
Adam Ezer makes it.
as well. That'll do it for Adam and Scott. I am Frank. Thank you all for listening. We'll be back again
tomorrow. Bye-bye.
