Fantasy Baseball Today - Frank Stampfl Joins the CBS Team and Provides Sleepers, Breakouts and Busts! (03/25 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: March 25, 2020

Are you ready for your new host? Frank Stampfl is ready to guide you to Fantasy Baseball glory. He'll be our new host and he'll have rankings on CBSSports.com as well ... Reacting to Noah Syndergaard'...s injury (6:45) and more information on when the season may start and what it might look like (11:15) ... Frank's sleepers (14:00), breakouts (22:55) and busts (35:00). We debate Franmil Reyes, Matthew Boyd, Trevor Bauer, Jose Altuve and more. And the listeners tell us who we missed in our Fictional Characters draft (42:55) ... Your emails at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @CBSFantasyBB, @AdamAizer, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Download our printable Draft Kit from CBSSports.com/draftkit! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the fantasy baseball today podcast from CBS sports. One, one pitch, basketball pulled and fast. Alboros and toward the corner. Got a fantasy question? Email fantasy baseball at cbsi.com. Get ready to win your league. Where fantasy. Now here's Adam, Scott Heath and Chris.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Big day on the fantasy baseball today podcast. Kind of a weird day on the fantasy baseball today podcast. Not going to lie. Welcome to the show. It is Wednesday, March 25th. I'm Adam Azer. Hey, Scott White, what's going on? Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Nothing weird about me. Chris, what are you doing right now? What do you mean? I don't know what you're trying to accomplish on Skype. You're trying to do something. I didn't see anything. Oh, I made a reference to stunning Steve Austin before the show, and you didn't know what I meant.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Correct. So I had to send you a picture of pre-stone-cold Steve Austin. Oh, was he known as stunning Steve Austin in WW. And he had long, beautiful gold locks that were clearly already thinning. This man needed to shave his head. It was a good look. Because I was talking about how one of my quarantine experiments, experiment, wow, was I'm going to shave my head tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:01:23 just fully bald, see what it looks like. Just because I'm, you know, you guys can see on the video, the podcast listeners can't. But the widow's peak is, it's getting pretty precarious. You know, like, it's one of those rocks that, like, looks like it could fall at any time. And so I'm just preparing for the inevitable here. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want you to do that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 But I think ultimately your wife should decide. But anyway, why is today a big day? Is it because we're talking about some sleepers breakouts and bust? Kind of, because of whose sleepers breakouts and bust? is it because we are reading ADP or emails? No. Because today might be my last day hosting the show. It's weird to say.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yes, I know. Somebody should react to that. I'm still going to be on the show, but we have a new team member who is going to be a younger version of me, a smarter version of me, better version of me, with better hair than me.
Starting point is 00:02:26 we have a new host slash producer of fantasy baseball today. He's getting his own walk-up music. Frank Stamphill. Getting his Mandy Moore walk-up music. Chris is jamming right now. Oh, my. Yeah. Frank is going to be like candy to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Frank, welcome to CBS. Welcome to Fantasy Baseball today. Well, thank you, Adam, for that stunning introduction. I think Chris Towers probably enjoyed it more than anybody else here on the show. But I do appreciate it. This is honestly a surreal moment for me because I've been listening to you guys legitimately since it feels like since the start of the podcast. I feel like I've heard it all. I have some things to take up with you, Adam, in terms of the takes. And I'm sure many people do. But man, this is so awesome. So excited to be here. Happy to jump in, man. were you listening to it since the days Jamie Eisenberg was hosting it? What? Jamie, you said,
Starting point is 00:03:32 I don't even think we were a daily at that point. I think we were still weekly. But yeah, that's going back more than a decade. That's how long Adam Azer has been hosting this podcast with me. I mean, I guess I've been on the longest of the people who are still on. But Adam and I've been at it for a long,
Starting point is 00:03:52 long time. Yeah, it's been a while. Frank's been a loyal listener. Frank's been hosting podcasts himself. He worked for Sports Grid. I've seen him on MSG before Nick's games talking about DFS for fantasy basketball. He's not just a fantasy baseball guy. He's just a diehard fantasy player. I've met the guy. Frank is super nice. Great, great guy. And I think he's going to fit in perfectly. He's just the right fit for the kind of show we do. He sent an email today that was just so overwhelming. Podcast ideas, so many ideas, and I haven't gotten really through all of them, but that's what he's bringing to the table. Like, he's just full of ideas. He is ready to go.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And for me, I'm going to, once the season starts in 2021, L.O.L. Once the season starts at some point, yeah, I don't know that we'll be a rotation. Like Frank will be me. Frank will be on every day. Maybe I'll be on three times a week, Scott four times a week, Chris, three times a week, something like that. But this is your FBT team, and it's going to be quarterbacked by Frank. And Frank, you're also going to be doing, you're going to eventually host a show maybe as early as this week, tomorrow or Friday. But you're also going to be doing rankings, right? You're going to be another ranker to kind of put Scott in his place, which we need around here. Yeah. I need to be put in my place often.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah, I'll have rankings. I'll contribute articles as well. My sleepers breakouts and busts are already published on cbsports.com. Thank you, Chris Towers. I will have rankings at some point. I'm currently working through that because it is quite an overwhelming process. When I saw top 600, I was like, all right, well, I'm going to have to go a little bit deeper here, but I love to do it, no doubt about it. I'm going to be happy to dispute some rankings with Scott White as well in my introduction video on Twitter. I announced, Scott, we love your rankings, but who doesn't love rankings debate, something that you and Heath Cummings have done for a long time together as well. So I'm happy to bring that to the table. I'll have roto rankings. head-to-head points, rankings, A-O-only, N-O-only auction values as well. I have it all. And hopefully, huge disparities so that we can argue a bunch, Scott. I do have to say, you know, I used to do rankings, and I've had people ask me why I don't do rankings anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And that was maybe my favorite part about switching roles was not having to do rankings anymore. You guys are incredible people for doing it. It's by far my least favorite part of this. Having to be held accountable publicly for the things that you believe, the worst. Yeah. And I hope if you're going to be the new Heath, I hope you have a, I hope we have a Frank sigh or something like that, something like this.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Do it. Do it, do it. Oh, my God. So you have to work on that. All right. So listen, let's talk about Noah's Cindergarde. Ellen Adair came on yesterday. Jenks Noah's Cindergarde and broke his
Starting point is 00:06:50 UCL. So he's having Tommy John surgery. And then we're going to get to some of Frank's sleepers, breakouts, and busts. Just two of each. He's got more, but today we'll just get two of each. So, Scott, your reaction to Noah's Cindergarde needing Tommy John? Well,
Starting point is 00:07:06 I can't say I saw that coming. Different from Chris Sale situation where you were halfway expecting it. It was telegraphed. Obviously, you know, we're talking about at some point in 2021. That's when we're hoping he'll be back.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It probably won't be at the start of the year. It's another instance of a guy who was struggling with its effectiveness in a way that was kind of difficult to understand leading up to the injury. I don't know if that's just a narrative I'm applying to it to get it to make sense. or if there's some legitimacy to that. But I feel like that happens often. A guy's struggling, and you can't really put your finger on why. And then before you know it, he's having Tommy John surgery.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So I don't know. That's kind of the optimistic spin on it, I guess, is that, okay, well, maybe he comes by, when he comes back from this, he'll be the noist under guard we always knew with the huge strikeout rate and everything. But obviously it's a long road back. and no guarantees it's going to go perfectly.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I didn't get a chance to read the article, but David Schoenfield on ESPN wrote a story about the growing list of injured hard throwers in MLB, and that certainly did occur to me as well. You know, Louis Severino and Cindergarde among the hardest throwers in baseball. And is that something, Frank, that from a keeper dynasty standpoint, we should be considering that starting pitchers that throw hard, they seem to run into some arm issues. Well, it's going to be hard to find pitchers nowadays who don't throw hard because it seems like
Starting point is 00:08:51 even the younger pitchers that are coming up now and the guys that we expect to take that next step, the Jesus Lazzardoes of the world, they all throw hard as well. So it's going to be hard to avoid any pitchers that are younger that are throwing hard nowadays because it seems like that's what a lot of pitching coaches are teaching is, you know, throw as hard as you can. We've seen that out of the Houston Astros the past couple of seasons, you know, reach back and gain that extra mile or two per hour from guys like Gary Cole, Justin Verlander with the Houston Astros. So it's going to be hard to avoid that, in my opinion. When it comes to Noah Cinderguard,
Starting point is 00:09:22 he was someone for me that was actually pretty tough to rank this upcoming season because it seems like we're always chasing that 2016 season, which was a phenomenal one from him. But since then, he either hasn't been able to stay healthy or he's been able to stay healthy and hasn't performed, which was the case last year when he almost threw 200 innings. But he also did that with a 4.28 ERA and a 1.23 whip. The swinging strike rate has been trending down for four seasons in a row as well. So I still had him ranked inside my top 20 starting pitchers, but I will say it was reluctantly because for all the talent that he has, it seems like Cinderguard has never really been able
Starting point is 00:09:56 to put it all together in a single season. So the article, trying to skim it now, of the 25 hardest throwing starting pitchers from 2018, 11 of them had or have since had Tommy Johnson. surgery. So that's before or after. That's a lot. 11 out of 25. Chris, I knew Chris was going to push back on this. Well, I just, like, I think it's undoubtable that throwing harder puts more strain on your elbow, although everybody's body's different. Some people are built to, to withstand that. But that's what, 40%, 44%? Something like that? Is that that different from the percentage of all starting pitchers who have Tommy John surgery at some point? I don't know. I don't think it is. You would know, I feel like, more than any of us. Except maybe Frank.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I don't know. Maybe Frank would know. But I don't know. It feels like, it feels like, I don't know. It's a, it's a column that feels 2,000 and late to me. Well, it wasn't. It's been going on for a long time. The crux of the column was more about the Mets, just to be fair.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I don't want to, I don't want to trash David Chauvin. No, I think it's interesting call. Okay. And then, Chris, we have an update on a possible timeline for the start of the season. The answer is no, we don't. But there was a tweet that at least gave some insight into what people are thinking right now. Yeah, I think, Frank, your former colleague, Craig Mish, tweeted that Major League Baseball is still working on it. They're still obviously, they don't know when the season's going to start, but they're starting to plan out.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You know, something like 140 to 150 games season, possibly with weekly double headers, with regular season games stretching into October. It's an interesting idea. I think you're going to have to expand rosters to 30 if you're going to do double headers every week. I just don't know how teams are going to be able to stand up to that kind of workload with the pitching staffs. Without it. Yeah. I don't know about 30, but it's not going to be expanded.
Starting point is 00:12:12 There's been talk of expanding rosters. I don't know if it'd be quite to 30. Obviously, they could have guys that they're sending up and down. Kind of the taxi squad, I guess, to accommodate for that. But, you know, it's, it's, yeah, it's interesting. I am for them playing more games than less, And it sounds like both the player's side and the owner's side are for that too. So that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:12:41 But I saw on Jeff Passon's column on ESPN that, I mean, they're thinking maybe the All-Star break at this point for when they get the season started. And even with doubleheaders every week in that scenario, you're looking at a greatly shortened season. So it's still, there's still a lot to sort out here. I think the only thing that's really been agreed upon, right, is that if there is some semblance of the season this year, that it will count as a full year of service time. Yeah, I did see that. So that is good. Well, we'll see what happens. If there's not, there's still going to be some fighting going on on that front.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's going to be a pretty interesting fight. Can you imagine if the Dodgers traded for mooky bets and then they don't get anything from him? because I don't see that scenario playing out where the season is lost and it still counts as a full year of service time. But who knows? Yeah, that would be one heck of a fight. Hopefully it does not come to that. We have other podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:14:15 And I know all this week we have fantasy football today live at noon Easter. Sleepers breakouts and busts. All right, Frank, let's start with two of your favorite sleepers this year. Cesar Hernandez. Maybe the first time his name has been said in. In a long time. He really, he really is replacing Heath. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:34 How about that? He always likes Seizor Hernandez. Now with the Cleveland Indians, go ahead. What do you like about Seizor Hernandez as a sleeper? Yeah, so Seizor Hernandez, I mean, his ADP is just so far down right now. And he's going behind players like D. Gordon, who currently don't have a starting job. And Nick Madrigal, who's likely going to start the season in the minor leagues. Maybe the White Sox will be a little bit more aggressive.
Starting point is 00:14:56 They've done that with a lot of their prospects thus far. But Teaser Hernandez, look, think if he just does what he, what he's done the past couple of seasons, he's easily going to outperform his ADP right now. He's raised the launch angle the past couple of seasons, 15 and 14 home runs, respectively, each of the past two seasons. And I think moving over to the Cleveland Indians is something that's going to help his stolen base output. I know if you look at last year, it was a four-year low for him, five-year low. He had nine stolen bases last year, the previous four years before that. He was in double-digit stolen bases. Now he joins the Cleveland
Starting point is 00:15:28 and Indians where Terry Francona, since he's taken over, has been one of the more aggressive, you know, in terms of his team of being allowed to steal bases and having the green light. He's been, you know, one of the most aggressive. They've ranked in the top half of the league, each of the seven seasons that he's been the manager. They've ranked top 10 in five of the seven seasons as well. So I think Cesar Hernandez, good OBP makes contact,
Starting point is 00:15:51 solid, solid walk rate, solid plate discipline. So I think regardless of it's roto or head to head points, he can help you in either format. I think 15 home runs, close to 15 stolen bases, and the potential for him to lead off, he can provide runs scored as well because they're talking about moving Francisco Lindor down into the middle of that lineup. It's just like a very unsexy name, Cesar Hernandez, but I think someone that could very easily outperform his average draft position.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Scott, Chris, is Chris? I guess it's a, if you're talking about a draft scenario, and obviously if you get into like 15 team leagues or something deeper, then it changes the math a bit. If you're talking about like a 12-team league, I don't feel like Hernandez has the kind of ceiling that I like to invest draft capital on. I think it's highly plausible, especially at second base,
Starting point is 00:16:42 that as the season plays out, as some of the high upside types, higher upside types like maybe a Garrett-Hampson or something like that, don't pan out as injuries take their toll, Hernandez very likely will become a startable player for somebody in a 12 team league. But I just, I haven't been interested in drafting them yet because I see upside in other places
Starting point is 00:17:08 in the late rounds. I think it does come down to where he hits in the lineup. If he does hit first or second for the Cleveland Indians, that's going to be a really good place for him to hit. I'm just not 100% sure he will. I would need confirmation on that beforehand. But if he does, it's going to be a. a very valuable lineup spot where he could, you know, score 110 runs.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And that's going to make him a starting caliber fantasy option, especially with likely 15 homers and, you know, upwards of 20 steals. Was he really the 12th best second baseman in points last year? 16th in Roto. 279, 14 homers, nine steals. He played 161 games, so that certainly helps. I know he was in top 12 in points per game. But I do think you finish 12th.
Starting point is 00:17:55 If you play a lot of games, you will. All right, that's Cesar Hernandez. The next one is J.Hap. And we've actually recently talked about liking J.Hap. And what do you think about J.Hap? Yeah, I like Jhab. I know most people probably will not be excited to draft a 37-year-old starting pitcher coming off a season. We had a 4.91 ERA and a 1.30 whip. And I know that you're a Yankees fan, Adam, and you've probably watched a ton of J-Hap the past couple of years. And last year, he was dreadful. Look, there's no way around. He allowed a ton of home runs. I think some of that can be related to the juiced ball, you know, 18.3% home run to fly ball ratio, 1.9 home runs per nine, both the highest marks of his career. And there's definitely a chance that he's just kind of slowing down at the age that he's at.
Starting point is 00:18:43 But it will say that his fastball velocity is basically where it's been for his entire career. It's someone who relies heavily on his fastball, much like Lance Lynn. His swinging strike rate was 10.3%, which was the second highest of his career last year. So the underlying numbers to me don't really support the fact that he's really gotten that much worse. And from 2015 to 2018, he was very serviceable for fantasy purposes, regardless of format, a 348 ERA and a 1.21 whip during that span. I don't know that that's realistic for him. He'll probably pitch higher to like a high three's ERA closer to four. But I think, you know, for where he's going, you take him on your bench.
Starting point is 00:19:22 He has upside to give you wins, quality starts, the run support of the Yankees as well. He's had success in that division pitching with the Toronto Blue Days against other, you know, great lineups the past couple of years. So I just think for where he's going, there's nothing but profit to be at. Scott, you wrote about J.Hap recently, didn't you? I kind of wanted to include him on my Deep Sleepers article, which was 35 names. So why would I draw the line there? And it turned out Jhap was going earlier, like too early. He missed the cutoff because he was going in like the 2.50.
Starting point is 00:19:57 range among players, but he was a guy who gained sleeper appeal for me as spring training was playing out because it was apparent he had done some work mechanically in the offseason and had made some changes there. And considering he was a guy who had 9.8 strikeouts per 9 innings in 2018 and then that dropped to 7.8 per 9 in 2019. Like something was going on there. Something was going on. He's been an up and down player throughout his career, J.Hap.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So considering all the benefits that a Yankees pitcher has with that lineup, that bullpen, and he was a 17-game winner between the Blue Jays and Yankees in 2018 also with that great strikeout rate. So it does seem like the majority were riding J-Hap off too soon. So I'm with Frank on that one. By the way, Cesar Hernandez was actually 27th in points per game among second. basement last year. That's a big disparity per game versus 12th overall. Wow. I think he was 12th overall. I'll double
Starting point is 00:21:02 check. The best ability is available. Yeah, it's true. That's right. That's right. Here's what I don't like about have is I think they will have zero trust in him if he puts a runner on base in the sixth inning he's coming out. They're going to have a really quick
Starting point is 00:21:18 hook with him and I think that he's going to have to pitch very well to get you quality starts. They're not going to let like because the he's up such a good bullpen. They're just going to get him out of the game. I think earlier than he's going to want to be out of the game and earlier than his fantasy owner is going to be out of the game.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And that's what played out last year. He didn't pitch well, though. So that's part of it too. But even down the stretch, you know, started to pitch a little bit better and made two quality starts, gosh, in his last two months. So that, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I guess that's a problem. We'll see if that happens. But I suspect that is a, a possibility. That kind of comes with the territory of being like the 250th player off the board as a pitcher though. Who are you going to draft that late
Starting point is 00:22:05 who isn't getting pulled early like Brad Keller, somebody like that? You got to cross the bridge before you worry about the troll on the other side, Adam. Yes, if he pitches well, that won't be as much of a concern. If he doesn't pitch well,
Starting point is 00:22:21 he won't be on your team. I think regardless, it's going to be a concern is the point I'm trying to make. I just think that no matter how good J. Haap is, considering his age, considering how badly they need their pitchers to stay healthy, they're not going to tax him, and he's going to be a low-inning guy.
Starting point is 00:22:41 That's my guess on Hap. So we'll say that obviously just a theory. All right, Frank, your breakouts. Matt Boyd and Fran Mill Reyes, both of them are no stranger to the home run. Yeah, that is correct. Look, Fran Mill Reyes, I think that if you're looking for power, specifically in a roto league, he is someone that has massive upside. And he's going later than everybody else who, you know, basically is considered like the stat cast heroes like Aaron Judge, Nelson Cruz, McGillessino, all those players. Fran Mulraeis is basically going last of that entire group. And, you know, you can argue that, yes, he still hits too many ground balls, but that's trending in the right direction where he's, you know, lowered the ground. ball rate the past couple of seasons. He's raised his average launch angle 2.7 degrees from 2018 to 2019. And he had 31 home runs last year and that was with changing leagues where he struggled a little
Starting point is 00:23:35 bit when he came over to the American League with the Cleveland Indians as well. But just in terms of, you know, his contact, his quality of contact when he makes contact over the past two seasons, 46.2 percent hard contact rate. That ranked 15th among all hitters with 750.5.5. plate appearances, and his 93.3 mile per hour average exit velocity was in the 99th percentile that ranked fourth in all of baseball behind, only Judge Sano and Cruz. So there's no doubt that when he hits the ball, he impacts the ball very hard. And I think that he's trending in the right direction in terms of raising that launch angle. And if he takes another step in that direction, we could be talking about, if it were a 162 game season, a 40 to 45 home run hitter with a
Starting point is 00:24:20 260 to 265 batting average. The 249 batting. average last year. A little bit misleading. His expected batting average was 264. So I think we could see some positive regression there as well. Let me ask you guys if in a roto league, I understand it would be a category thing because they're so different. But in a points league, would you rather have Fram Mill Reyes or David Dahl? I'd rather have Dahl. That's kind of assuming Framil Reyes doesn't make any improvement in the plate discipline department. He actually wasn't a guy who struck out a ton in the miners. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. ruling out him getting better in that regard, but it's, I mean, the disparity in terms of
Starting point is 00:25:02 point per game production there is pretty extreme. David Dahl was 3.05 and Fran Mill Reyes was 2.48. So I got to go Dahl there. I will point out just like to kind of double back to something Frank said, switching leagues mid-season is really, really difficult. Hitters tend to perform better the more they've seen pitchers. And when you switch leagues, you just don't see those pictures as often. And then to add in, it's also, there's a fan graph piece from a couple of years ago that showed this, but it's more difficult. Hitters perform worse, making the jump from the National League to the American League as well.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And so having that happen midseason, it's just really tough. And so I think he's probably more like, you know, a 40 home. I mean, he hit 36 or 37 last year. But I'm really high on Framo Reyes. I think he's more like a 265, 270 guy with, yeah, I don't think my expectations for him aren't that much different from what I expect from Maddles. You're, you, the visual of Chris right now is hilarious. I didn't realize you're on your couch today.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Are you always on your couch? Yes, I don't have a, uh, an office chair yet. But you're like leaning, I'm lounging in this big, it's like a big, uh, love seat. And I'm lounging in it because my neck is getting really sore from having to like hunch over my laptop. Podcasting is tough. It is physically demanding. People don't know that, but you have to lean forward sometimes when you podcast. And that's really tough.
Starting point is 00:26:50 You also have this jacket on. Hold on, Adam. Some of us have jobs where we do things besides podcast as well. All right, sir. You know what? I just, before I came out of the show, I was late because I was changing a disgusting diaper, Chris. Whatever you have to do, I will gladly trade with you. That's a recreational activity you decided to take on. Recreational.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You know what? Don't, don't, I'm not, don't criticize. I'm not criticizing your hobbies here. I'm sorry. It's the most fun thing I've done in weeks, though. All right. So, I just, okay, Chris's jacket is also hilarious. Let's go to Matt Boyd.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Matt Boyd, yeah. Really? With Matt Boyd? I know a lot of people like Matt Boyd. Okay, so he gives up a ton of homers but gets a lot of strikeouts and tell me why he's a breakout this year. Let me just see where he's going. Oh, you can talk and then I'll tell you where he's going.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah, he kind of broke out last. year. So I don't know if this is, I'm kind of like cheating the system. I mean, he broke out in the first half last year. And I think you can argue that if he did what he did in the first half in the second half last season, like if his hats were just swapped, Matt Boyd would probably be going around like five rounds earlier than where he's going right now. On the surface, 4.56 ERA, 1,23 whip. That was a disappointment. But 3.88 X-FIP, 3.61 Sierra, skill interactive ERA, tell us that he was unlucky last year. He allowed a ton of home runs. His home run to fly ball ratio in the second half last year was 20%, which to me, I just don't think that that's sustainable for him. And he had a
Starting point is 00:28:30 massive swing and miss potential. There's no doubt about it. 14% swinging strike rate. That was eighth among qualified starting pitchers, 238 strikeouts. That was tied for 10th in all of baseball last year with Patrick Corbyn. And I look at different tools when it comes to analyzing pitchers. I like to look at Chase rate, first pitch strike. percentage swinging strike rate. And there were eight qualified starting pitchers who posted at least a 34% chase rate, 64% first pitch strike percentage, and 12% swinging strike rate. That's basically top 20 in each of those categories. Garrett Cole, Jacob de Grom, Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Shane Bieber, Clayton Kershaw, Joe Musgrove, and Matthew Boyd. So he's in really good company
Starting point is 00:29:11 there can establish the strike zone, get swings and misses, get people to chase. And there was a lot to talk in spring training about improved fastball velocity and improved curveball as well. And if he has those extra weapons to accompany that slider, I really think that he could take that next step and potentially even be a top 20 starting pitcher this year.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Okay, so the only thing is first half versus second half, it was 12 starts. It was too good, it was two great months for Boyd, and then it was four bad months for Boyd. The way I break it down at least, I mean... Yeah, that's closer to accurate. I mean, I see first and second half
Starting point is 00:29:45 stats cited most often for Boyd just because it's easy and I guess it's consistent with how a lot of breaking down the season analysis works but yeah it's it was the stark contrast between the first two months and the final four. Yeah and then
Starting point is 00:30:01 the positive side the two names that come to mind let me just double check here well Jacob de Grom is one he had a year yeah it was 2017 where his strikeout rate went way up to a career high 10.7
Starting point is 00:30:18 and his home run rate went way up, 1.3 per 9. And his ERA was 353, which was really high for him. It's the only year it's been higher than 304. The following year, it had a 170 ERA, and he won the Sai Yung for the first of two straight years winning the Sa Young. So it's a lower level than DeGrom,
Starting point is 00:30:40 but it shows you what can happen when you take the strikeout jump and if you can reduce the home runs, that could be really awesome. So I've been kind of hedging my bet with Matthew Boyd. He's in my bust column, in part because of the way I did my bust column, I was highlighting players with true bottom-out potential.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And I think there's absolutely a scenario where Matthew Boyd just allows so many home runs that he becomes a complete afterthought and fantasy. but there's definitely a lot of upside too and I find I've drafted him a fair amount in leagues where I feel like I haven't quite given myself as much high-end pitching as I wanted and I want one guy who's halfway there
Starting point is 00:31:31 feel like Matthew Boyd is halfway there and maybe the curveball is the game changer I mean the curveball is a good ground ball pitch so if that can help normalize that fly ball rate some it could get the home runs under control. Not only that, but it was kind of ridiculous how many home runs Matthew Boyd allowed during that four-month stretch. Like unsustainably high.
Starting point is 00:31:55 The only, it was 2.6 home runs per nine for those four months. The highest full-season home run per nine rate in MLB history is only 2.2 versus the 2.6 Matthew Boyd gave up. So it's, that's kind of, Like crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:13 By the way, how many of you out there, how many of you listeners by a show of hands, when Scott said halfway there twice, how many of you just went to Bon Jovi in your minds? Because that definitely happened with me. Chris, final word on, that happened with you, right, Chris? No. Really? Frank? I mean, you're from, you're from, Chris looks irritated with you as a matter of fact.
Starting point is 00:32:38 He said halfway there. He's halfway there. He's halfway there. How do you not go to living on a prayer? Well, because we're halfway there. It's a different thing. It's not. It's the same exact thing.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Well, let me do some Matt Boyd rankings. Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. You asked me my opinion on Matthew Boyd. Answer the rankings first, and then you can give your Matthew Boyd opinion. Based on an average draft position, we are looking at Robbie Ray, Mike Minor, Matthew Boyd in the 150 to 160 range. Robbie Ray, Mike Minor, Matthew Boyd, all lefties. I like Boyd more
Starting point is 00:33:14 I think I go Boyd minor Ray although I do part of it feels sort of silly because it's like we're hoping Matthew Boyd becomes Robbie Ray to a certain extent he's already a better source of whip than Robbie Ray
Starting point is 00:33:33 fair by far the control is better but in terms of run prevention I guess strikeouts he was already there but we're still hoping he takes a leap to become someone who can post a high 3ZRA, whereas that's, you know, Robbie Wright can do that already. But the comp that is instructive to me with Matthew Boyd is Patrick Corbyn. Exceptional sliders.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Patrick Corbyn, you know, he's relied more on the slider the last couple of years than he ever had before. But another key for his 2018 breakout was he did start using a curveball. Now, it didn't look, it wasn't super effective. It didn't look that much different from his slider. It was a little slower. And it mostly served as a changeup. He used it more against right hand of batters. And that's what I hope Matthew Boyd's curveball can be.
Starting point is 00:34:29 You know, he needs that third pitch to keep hitters off balance. And I'm hoping that's what the curveball. And he started throwing a change up this spring. as well that he brought back. So, you know, there's two paths to it. And if the fastball velocity that was up in the spring training continues, I think there's a pretty good chance he's a very good starting pitcher. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Let's get to the busts for Frank Stamphill. So we had Cesar Hernandez and Jay Hapas Sleepers, Matthew Boyd and Framo Reyes' breakouts. Now he has some big names, his bus, Jose Altuve and Trevor Bauer. Jose Altuvei, our drafts like a round three pick. I've seen him going round four. His average draft position, according to fantasy pros, is 31. So there you go, round three, middle of round three.
Starting point is 00:35:24 A bust for you, Frank. Jose Al-Tube. Yeah, Jose Al-Tuvae. It has nothing to do with banging trash cans, tattoo gate, whatever you want to call it. That was an awesome cat, by the way, Chris. Chris's cat just, like, crawled across his arm and the pack of it. his couch. That was phenomenal. Oh, yeah. But when it comes to Jose Altuve, nothing to do with what happened in terms of the allegations, the cheating scandals. It's more so the fact that he
Starting point is 00:35:48 hasn't been able to stay healthy over the past two seasons. He's dealt with hamstring, knee injuries that has forced him to miss 63 games over the past two years. As a result, his stolen bases have decreased from 32 back in 2017 to 17 in 2018 to just six last year. He did break out in terms of power last season, 31 home runs, but I don't know that that is sustainable from mid-June on when he returned from injury. He had 22 home runs with a 25% home-run to fly-ball ratio. His previous season high for an entire season was 14.6% in terms of home-run to fly-ball rate. So I think the power takes a step back. And his plate discipline is also starting to slip a little bit, career-high, 15% strikeout rate last year. And his 7.5% walk rate was his lowest since
Starting point is 00:36:34 2015. His expected batting average was just 282. So if he hits closer to 285, his normal 20 to 25 home runs, less than 10 stolen bases, I don't think that he's going to wind up being better than someone like Ozzy Albi's, who I have ranked as my top second basement. Ooh, that's a nice take. So when would you take Jose Al Tuvae? When would you be comfortable drafting him? Probably in the fourth round range, I think right after Catelle Marte goes. I actually prefer Kittel Marte over Hote-Al-Tuva as well. I just think Al-Tuva is going to miss time at some point this year, and you can't really rely on him for stolen bases anymore, which is the scarcest category in Roto leagues this upcoming season. So probably in the fourth round range
Starting point is 00:37:15 once someone like Ketel-Marte goes off the board. All right. And then why don't we just jump to Trevor Bauer and why you think Bauer is a bust? Yeah, I just think Trevor Bauer is overrated. Honestly, I think that we're all kind of chasing what he did two years ago. And it was a stellar season. There's no doubt about it. 2.21 ERA. But outside of that season, every other year that he's pitched, he's had a 4.19 ERA or higher. And we mentioned Robbie Ray earlier in the show. I think Robbie Ray is a fair comp for Trevor Bauer, and you can get him like 75 picks later, according to CBS Sports ADP. So look, if you look at their careers, Robbie Ray is a 4.11 ERA, 1.35 whip with a K-per-9 over 11 in Trevor
Starting point is 00:37:58 Bauer's career, he has a 4.04 ERA, a 130 web, and a 9.5K per 9. I think, you know, the only people who are drafting Trevor Bauer still are probably people who have not been burned by him in the past. And there are a lot of people who have. I am one of those people as well. So I think it's, you only want to draft Trevor Bauer if you've never had the Trevor Bauer experience. And outside of one great season, it has not been great. Well, but you really are, you really are Heath Cummings, though, because Heath and I used to argue about that a lot. and I just think that he changed his arsenal, started throwing a slider in the 2017 season, and in his last 12 starts, he had a 242 ERA. He was incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:39 He had 85 strikeouts and 78 innings, and then he backed that up in 2018. That's why I thought it was legit, and that's what I was expecting in 2019. He was really bad. But I'm willing to overlook the career of Trevor Bauer, because I think he's a different. pitcher than he used to be. Obviously, I don't really have a great explanation for what happened last year. 34 home runs is quite a lot to give up. So that, you know, that's part of it. But Scott, yeah, he needs to figure out how he got so many ground balls in 2018. That's, that's, that's what I think it really comes down to. Otherwise, he probably is looking at a four to
Starting point is 00:39:15 420 ERA. You know, he throws a ton of innings. That is one difference between him and Robbie Ray is you're probably only getting 175 innings from Robbie Ray and you might get 215 from Trevor Bauer even if he's not that good. I guess in a 5-5 context you can make the case that more innings of a 4 plus
Starting point is 00:39:36 ERA is actually worse but it does help his win potential. It does help his strike out total and obviously in a points league it makes a big difference just straight up. I do want to point out Adam inadvertently proved one of Frank's points from earlier about Matthew Boyd.
Starting point is 00:39:52 you cited the exact same number of starts at the end of 2017 for Trevor Bauer that you yeah then he did it again for a full season he did it again for a full season I didn't write it off I just said it wasn't first half second half Chris you're paying you were like napping on your cozy love seat but Frank's point was that if Matthew Boyd had done it at the end of the season he would be going much higher right now well I don't think it really matters when you whether you do it at the beginning of a season, or at the end of the season. It's about showing the skills. It does matter when you change your arsenal,
Starting point is 00:40:28 and there is a direct reason for it. And I think for Matthew Boyd, for a guy who's had a lousy career and has had 12 good starts in his career, basically, to be going 160th overall, I think that's actually, you know, some respect there. But, like, Trevor Bowers had a lousy career.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He's had one great year. Let's keep it at 100. He's had a lousy career with one great year. With one great year plus 12 starts. So that's one full season more than Matt Boyd has done. Sure. If you could take a memory erased pill for 2018, which wouldn't be the first year that I would choose if I could do that.
Starting point is 00:41:11 You know, there have been other worse years. But if you could take that and not know that Trevor Bauer did what he did in 2018, there would be zero difference between the two of them. Yeah. And that's not to say. That's not to say that you should ignore what Trevor Bauer did in 2018, but the overwhelming majority of his career has been deeply, deeply mediocre. I know, but sometimes, you know, what's the point of predicting a breakout if we're just going to look at what people have done in their entire career?
Starting point is 00:41:42 I mean, there's a reason why Trevor Bauer broke out, I thought anyway. So, you know, obviously we were all wrong about Bauer last year, but it seemed legit. Wasn't this time a year ago, Chris was like the biggest Trevor Bowler band there was. I had huge swings because I remember like before last year you hated Trevor Bauer too and you were like, yeah. I can't. It's probably no worth bringing up. Chris hates. No, he hates Trevor Bauer.
Starting point is 00:42:09 But you came up with this hypothetical trade of Bauer for somebody else. It's not worth getting it too. I don't remember it. But yeah, you hated Trevor Bauer. Oh, it was Marcellus. And I was worried the Marlins were going to trade. Marcel was at the peak of his value for Trevor Vauer. But wait.
Starting point is 00:42:25 That was, that was. Okay. Chris, to be clear, Chris, this time last year actually loved Trevor Bauer. Yes. I had him as a top five starting to. I thought he was better than Blake Snell. And you know what? Wasn't wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:37 No, well. He was better than Blake's now, yeah. All right, guys. He had 253 strikeouts. I mean, let's not totally bury what he did last year. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he didn't live up to his ADP, clearly.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Oh, that was fun. Frank, welcome back to the show. So that covers Frank Sleepers Breakouts and Busts, and I'm sure you'll be able to see more of them on the website and hear more of them on this podcast. We apparently miss some characters in the fictional character draft, so let's run through some emails here from Rita. She said, King Kelly from the movie It Happens Every Spring.
Starting point is 00:43:13 He's a scientist who discovers a substance that makes the ball impossible to hit because it is repelled by any wood. He joins a major league team and no hitter can ever get a hit takes them to the World Series ridiculous fantasy stats all right king Kelly never heard of him if it repels I'm thinking like a magnet
Starting point is 00:43:31 if it repels it wouldn't it still feel the force of the bat like wouldn't it still like move with the force of the bat swinging it just never officially make contact you know what I'm talking about I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:43:47 the other way we missed an opportunity to get Robin Williams character from Flubber. I was just thinking that. You just cover your bat and flubber. All you have to do is make a little, but you just bunt it and it's going to go out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Let me ask you a question, Frank. If you were batting against a major league pitcher, like a Mike Minor, not a flamethrower, but a good major league pitcher, how confident are you that you'd be able to lay a bunt down? Not confident at all. Like you think you'd miss three times?
Starting point is 00:44:23 I would probably end up, I guess, bunch striking out. Like, I don't know that I would be able to get it in the field of play confidently. Like, I'd probably just foul it off everywhere or wind up, like, breaking one of my fingers because I'd hold the bat wrong. But if you had flabler... Did you play high school baseball? I did, but I was very bad. Okay. So, because I was thinking, like, Mike Minor probably throws like an 81 mile an hour breaking pitch of some sort.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So that is probably, like, if you played high school baseball, you probably saw a couple of pitches that were hard. than 81 miles an hour. But it's been a decade, roughly, right? Yeah, I probably did see a pitch that fast, but I would liken myself to, I don't know, let's go with Jackie Bradley Jr. Terrible hitter. I played center field.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I would consider myself a plus defender, but I don't know how useful a plus defender and terrible hitter was in high school baseball, but that was me. Wait, you probably bunted a lot. Okay, did it be pretty good. I mean, I doubt there are many high schoolers playing exemplary defense out there, right?
Starting point is 00:45:23 they're pretty much all put it short stuff. Yeah, that's fair. I appreciate you. Good job, Frank. Scott, look at that. Day one. Let's go, Frank. So, did anybody see the movie
Starting point is 00:45:32 The Benchwarmers with Rob Schneider? It's an classic movie. You seen it? Absolutely. Okay, so we got a vote. I haven't seen many movies, but I have seen that. We've got to vote for Gus Matthews
Starting point is 00:45:44 from Benchwarmers, I think is Rob Schneider's character, and Carlos from Benchwarmers. Those are great characters. Yeah, Rob Schneider was basically for the, I guess you want to call them the nerd team, which was the bench warmers. He was their pitcher and he was their hitter and he was like a former bully from back in the day.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And he was great. He was phenomenal. Mind you, he was playing against like other little leaguers. And then Carlos was a gentleman from the Dominican Republic that had a birth certificate that he wrote on it, I am 12. So that was his birth certificate. But he was actually like 30 years old and he was just striking everybody out. That does sound like a good movie.
Starting point is 00:46:22 By the way, you know they're like sending movies straight to, you know, a VOD right now? You're aware of this? Yeah. Yeah, we've heard of it. Yeah. I think I'm going to rent The Way Back with Ben Affleck. What was your interest level in that movie? The basketball movie.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Oh, like Zero. Really? Is he directing that one? How about sure. The Way Back? I've never heard of it. I guess that other movie was The Way Way Way Back. Oh, the way way back is a great movie.
Starting point is 00:46:53 One of the best. Love that movie. Yeah, one of the best. A good one. Okay. And then from, oh, I don't know who sent this. I'm sorry, but the perfect player for our draft was the kid who only hit homers from Matt Christopher's, the kid who only hit homers. Yeah, somebody tweeted me the actual name of that kid.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It was a, it was a unique name. Let me see if I can find that real quick. You know what I want, I don't want a kid who only hits homers. He's going to clog the bases. I want some small ball on my team. What do you mean he's going to clog the bases? He only hits homers. The bases.
Starting point is 00:47:32 What are you talking about? Okay. And then the last one, we got a couple of votes for Sid Finch, who apparently was on an April Fool's edition of Sports Illustrated. There was a 168 mile per hour fastball. I have never heard of that. It was, it was apparently, like an April Fool's joke that a lot of people. people fell for apparently in the 80s was it?
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah, I was frantically, there's a point later in the draft right, you can hear me frantically typing to try to figure out what that guy's name was. And I just, I couldn't get to it in time before my next pick. So would you take instead? Somebody for Major League? No, I think that was my last pick. It was, uh, what's his name from for love of the game, which great, great pick. Steal of the draft, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Oh, sure, sure. Billy Chapel, was that it? Billy Chapel, yeah. Yeah, he was so good. You already remember his name. Ellen liked it. Somebody, you know, since Frank is the host of the show now, Keenan emailed us and said,
Starting point is 00:48:33 which concession stand food or drink best fits each position and why? And that just feels like a very difficult undertaking. But if you guys want to do that, I'll let Frank decide if that's a challenge that we want to take on right now. I guess they mean for fantasy. see the depth of the position, or do they mean like a tub of popcorn is playing
Starting point is 00:48:57 catcher? This is what Keenan said. First base would be a hot dog. Almost everyone gets one just like almost every play goes to first. Second base will be peanuts, reliable, fun,
Starting point is 00:49:09 impossible not to like, unless you're allergic, that kind of stuff. So you need to engage the clever bone for this one, huh? I do not like peanuts, by the way. I don't dislike them, but... Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Wow. Wow, one more Azer hot take for the road. I mean, they're just, they're whatever. I don't seek out peanuts. Frank Stamphel, your take on peanuts, please. I actually think that that is a fair take. I hope I didn't just like ooze half the onions there, but. I mean, you go to five guys halfway for the peanuts, right?
Starting point is 00:49:40 Definitely not. A tray of peanuts snack on them while they're cooking your burger. Definitely not. Bad takes. A horrible take. Horrible. But I will say, like, it's a little bit. it's a receptacle for salt.
Starting point is 00:49:53 There's very few things if you put a lot of salt on them that I'm not going to enjoy and peanuts are among them. You guys really don't eat the peanuts at five guys? I eat them, you don't go there halfway for the peanuts. I couldn't care less about the peanuts. Well,
Starting point is 00:50:08 it was stupid, Scott. Like we've never heard that literary device before. I don't think I've ever had a peanut at a five guys. I'm there for... I don't think so. Well, because their burgers are big. like you gotta get two patties unless you order a little burger but you're not a child but you know then the fries they give you take the while for them to cook your burger and give you
Starting point is 00:50:29 so many fries that i just i don't have i don't have space or time frank go solo with the fries you don't share them got to share if i go by myself i'm not sure what i'm just going to hand some fries to the person at the table next to me maybe i've never been a five guys by myself before i don't know Yeah. My guys is really good. Oh, by the way, the kid who only hit homers was Sylvester Coddmeier the third. Fun is fast. Great baseball name.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I tried to convince my wife we should name our first son, Sylvester. I tried pretty hard, actually. I liked the name. Yeah, you made the right call. It didn't happen. She made the right call, I guess I should say. So we ran out of time for the ADP. I want to be able to spend enough time on that.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So we'll do that tomorrow. Let's read some emails about baseball. From Josiah in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania. Who should I draft in my Bad is Good League? Season Points League that rewards strikeouts, outs, and caught stealing for batters. Losses, blown, saves, walks, runs, and total bases for pitchers. I need bad players, but not so bad that they lose their jobs. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:51:40 You need someone who's going to play every... I used to be in one of these for basketball. And it was really fun. And we call it Wack Fantasy. And what you really need to focus on are bad players who still play. So I think the first pick has to be Chris Davis with a C, right? He's going to play pretty much every day. He's going to strike out a ton.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I think that's probably, although I guess he didn't, he didn't qualify for the batting title last year. Well, they benched him, right, for like a month, didn't they? I don't even remember the trials and tribulations. lying into the Chris Davis resurgence this spring, Chris? Oh, I mean, I just think you got to go. Like, one in nine at bats. You got to go with the track record on this one. Frank, who's the worst player?
Starting point is 00:52:31 Who should go first to this in this draft? Yeah, I mean, Chris Davis would see is a pretty good call there. I actually went over to fan graphs and just sorted by offensive war and just looking at all the negative players. So I think that that's something that you can look at to do here. But someone like Brandon Crawford apparently was one of the worst offensive players last league in base, last year in baseball. But I think some of the veterans, too, that are owed a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Like, if you weren't buying in on the Miguel Cabrera resurgence, like, he's going to play and he might not be good at all. Same thing with like Albert Pujols. I think you can make the argument there. For a pitcher, look, some people are buying back in. I just can't do it. I haven't seen enough. Rinaldo Lopez, it seems like he's going to be given every opportunity.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Yeah. His ERA was over five. His peripherals were over five. and he was just bad across the board last year. And it seems like he's going to get every opportunity to stay in that rotation. So, yeah, I would just go over to Fangraphs and just kind of like sort by the worst pitchers. Like Rick Porcell is another one, I think, is going to have every opportunity to pitch for the Mets. My question is, do you get negative points when they do something good?
Starting point is 00:53:33 Or is it just the bad things that they do? Oh, I don't know. I think that I would look at the Rockies pitching staff other than Marquez, right? And those guys are going to start Marquez at home. Start Marquez at home, yeah. All right, next email is from Mike. Dear Clayton, Walker, and Julio, Dodgers pitchers. Thank you all for producing podcast during this time of extended state-mandated introversion.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I was intrigued by Chris's idea of drafting the entire Dodgers rotation. I considered doing it when he advocated it last year. Then I realized that for a head-to-head points league, anytime the Dodgers have a series at the Rockies, you'd have three to four of your starts for the week at cores. Not ideal for weekly leagues, but maybe better for Roto? Question mark. Yeah, I mean, it's only nine games across the full season.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Nine or ten games. So I don't think you, because my thought isn't you just draft Dodgers and then you're just like, I don't have any other pitchers on my staff. You make those the core, but you have other guys to supplement it. And so in this instance, you can just slot other guys in for those three games. I still say this take is you're just basically saying Dodgers pitchers are good you're even admitting you're going to take other pitchers along with it so there's no purity to this approach
Starting point is 00:54:53 you can't just have five pitchers on your fantasy roster Scott I figured you would know was you draft more than just the five right that was the point you still can't have just seven Scott you need other pitchers yeah you need two closers but you're going to need more than you're not going to necessarily have more than seven starting pitchers, maybe eight, I don't know. Depends on your bench.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yeah, I think that It's a Roto strategy for sure. Yeah, it is a Roto strategy. Yeah. Because you're probably drafting 12 pitchers total in Roto. You can take those swing guys with the Dodgers too, like Ross Stripling and Jimmy Nelson if they get up the chip open.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah, that's the idea is you draft the five guys in the rotation, the Ross Stripling and Dustin May, who are likely to be in the rotation when someone misses, that way you've got 162 starts from those seven guys. They're going to be great. And you still have three other starting pitchers, let's say. And of course, the problem,
Starting point is 00:55:55 the reason why this doesn't work is because before Dustin May and Ross Stripling make it to the rotation, they are going to be mostly useless players on your bench, and they will be the first two players that you drop when someone exciting comes along on waivers. You're not dropping anyone because you drafted a perfect team. Of course. I always forget that part of the strategy.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And this last one is from GR. I'm in a shallower daily points league. My pitchers were, or R. DeGrom, Cindergarde, Corbyn, Paddock, Montas, Boyd, Archer, Josh James, Rich Hill. He also had Chris Sale. So now he has Sale and Cindergarde. That's wonderful. We had them.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Number one, would you drop Cinderguard for Michael Coppec, Caleb Smith, or Joe Musgrove? Oh, it's like Frank answered this one. Well, this is an easy one, guys. This is Joe Musgrove all the way. Something you'll learn about me is my love for Joe Musgrove, and I just cannot quit him. I still think that he has the opportunity to pan out to be a top 30 starting pitcher, has the command. We saw the pitch mix change down the stretch last year. And I think Ray Sirage actually being gone from the Pirates is going to help their entire pitch.
Starting point is 00:57:09 staff from Musgrove to Mitch Keller, who I know Chris is a big fan of as well. So it's Joe Musgrove for me, unquestionably. I wrote a column about how the Pittsburgh Pirates pitching staff can win your fantasy league. I am with you on Musgrove. Wait. Are we going Dodgers pitchers or Pirates pitchers? Yes. Okay. Combination of both. There you go. Those are the three extra pitchers you need. Joe Musgrove, Mitch Keller, and Chris Archer. There you go. Wasn't that like the 1990 NLCS. No, I think the red's wearing that. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Okay, never mind. What a show off. But yeah, no. I wrote about five pitchers going after 250 and 80p who you can either target latent drafts or who might potentially be available on waivers to replace Noah Sindegarde. And Michael Copac was one of the first ones I mentioned. We only saw him pitch one inning in spring training. We don't know how the delayed season is going to impact his availability.
Starting point is 00:58:09 but I would expect we'll see him pretty close to the start of whatever the, whenever the start of the season is, and the potential is enormous. Frank, you say Musgrove, Scott, Chris says Copac, Scott, who do you say? I don't share quite the same enthusiasm for Joe Musgrove, but he seems like the right choice here, nonetheless. I'd like, like, Copac is somebody I'd like to draft in Stash, but I don't think you pass up Musgrove for him. Frank, how was day one at CBS? It was great.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I enjoyed it a lot, guys. I'm looking forward to everything else that we do. Some more takes from Adam Ager, some more peanut takes. Adam, have you tried Chef Boyardee yet? And I haven't. To you reveal that you haven't had Chef Boyardee ever in your life? I'm not going to have Chef Boyardee unless I can get a new can because I'm not touching my emergency supply of food.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And I'm also afraid to leave my house and go to the grocery store. Adam, send me your address. Whole Foods doesn't deliver Chef Boy RD from what I understand. This is such a cop out of it. You could take one can from your emergency stash. No, because what if I like it? What if I like it? Then I'm going to want to eat all eight cans, Scott. I don't want to open that.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I don't want to open Pandora's box. Eight cans of Chef Boyardee's site unseen. They were 70 cents. 70 cents each. So like I said, I chose budget over quality. Adam. Right now, sorry, I meant Adam. I'm
Starting point is 00:59:35 I've got a bit of a, I do that a lot. His middle name, Scott, it's fine. It's true. Right now on, yeah, he is Adam Scott. Right now on Amazon, you can buy a 12 pack of 7.5 ounce chef-bordi beef and tomato and meat sauce raviolis for 1176. Hmm. Jeez. I could do that. I could do that. How many? How big was the pack? 12 pack. Oh, okay. That's, that's reasonable. The dollar each. Beefaroni is also 1176.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I vote for beeferoni. Beefaroni. Cheese ravioli is a little more expensive. I might have to do... I've been having so much ravioli lately, though. All right. It really sounds like you're coming up with excuses for getting out of this. That's not untrue.
Starting point is 01:00:24 We'll talk to you all tomorrow on Fantasy Baseball today. Thanks for listening. Thanks for welcoming Frank in. Follow him... What's your Twitter handle? I'm sorry. Is it just Frank Stample? Roto underscore Frank.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Oh, that even close to Frank. By the way. Siri has a very tough time pronouncing the last day. So we'll talk to you all on Thursday. Thanks.

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