Fantasy Baseball Today - H2H Categories Mock Draft Recap; ADP on Other Sites (3/22 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: March 22, 2021

Results from H2H Categories Mock Draft: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/2021-fantasy-baseball-draft-prep-12-team-head-to-head-categories-mock-reflects-carlos-carrascos-slide/ How was your weekend!? How did our drafts go? ... Find out why Frank is a fraud (3:02)! ... Let's recap our most recent H2H categories mock draft (7:35). How did Chris' team turn out with the Marmol strategy? ... Scott actually started with two hitters from the 12th pick (13:34). How did the rest of his team look? ... Let's hit the news and notes (20:03). Is Will Smith really going to play 90 games? Bobby Witt Jr. was sent back to the minors and we have an update on Stephen Strasburg. ... Let's talk about these four interesting starting pitchers (35:00)! ... Where did Carlos Carrasco, Dinelson Lamet and Shohei Ohtani go in our drafts this weekend (44:55)? ... How does average draft position differ from ESPN to Yahoo to CBS (49:40)? ... Email us at [e-mail]. Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank, @AdamAizer Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. I drive, center field, and swing. This is magnificent. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy becomes reality. Now here's Frank, Scott, Chris, and Adam.

Busy times. Busy times, indeed. Let's talk about it. Welcome into Fantasy Baseball today. Frank Stamphill joined by Scott White and Chris. Howers. Scott, what's up, man? How is your weekend? I know you're a big weekend guy. Do any drafts? I did do a draft. I'm sharing a team with a friend of mine, Greg Lathrop, a main event team for the NFBC. Did the draft earlier today. How are you feeling? I feel good about it.

Very nice. So, yeah. Tell us about it. Tell us about it. I know you're itching to tell us about it. well we picked sixth we took beber of course of course and we got corey seger in round two is a 15 teamer by the way Corey seger in round two felt like a little bit of a reach but all the good all the pitchers I thought were worth taking in round two were gone and then we got lucky getting DJ LaMayhew in round three and Alex Bregman in round four which you know again 15 team league picking six that's really late for Bregman that's outside the top

50. Of course, at this point, we have three hitters in our first four rounds. Very, very much unlikely. Unlike me. So, next four picks, we went Strasbourg, Plyssack, Granky, Wheeler. So he still ended up with five of my top 30, I think. That's pretty good for a 15-team league. Yeah, feeling strong in the pitching categories. You know, we're a little light at saves. We might be a little light in. in home runs. I don't know. It depends how big Seeger is this year and how big Will Myers is.

Will Myers ended up being our fourth hitter. We took a lot of upside on this team. You know, we got four of the biggest rookies in Andrew Vaughn, Jared Kelnick, Alex Kirolov, and Wander Franco. So we got those stats. I mean, Vaughn's probably going to make the club, I think, at the start of the year,

probably. But there's a good chance they're all up before the end of April. And that could be, that could be windfall for us. I don't know. I like,

I like this team. I like it a lot. Very nice. That's a great dynasty team you got there, Scott. So hopefully it works out well for you. I also participated in the main event this weekend over at the NFBC.

And I too did not have my second starting pitcher until round six. I think it turned out right. I actually got Zach Plissack in round eight. So you took them in the sixth in your draft. I got them in the eighth in mine. That's the furthest I've seen him full.

I think it was pick 107. So we'll see. Good luck to you and we'll see what happens, man. I'm pretty excited about it. Chris is here as well and Chris, I will give you the opportunity to berate me to start the podcast because I am a fraud. I am a big phony. That's all I am.

Nothing more, nothing less. Because I purchased Max Scherzer in the 12 team Tout Wars head to head points salary cap draft for $31. dollars and I have no idea why. I'll just say, I'll say this, say what you want about me. I have many flaws as a person. But when I have a take, I stand by that take no matter how stupid it is. So you're all like, oh, Max Scher's is terrible.

Nobody should draft him. And then you go draft him. Spend $31 on a pitcher who you think is terrible. Unbelievable. Now, where are your convictions? Now, wait, wait, Frank, wait, wait, Frank,

isn't this a, this is a head-to-head points league, right? It is a head-to-head-points league, correct. Is the scoring, like, way different from CBS? Is it, a pitcher's deflated or something? It is the CBS scoring system.

Well, dude, you got Scherzer for only 31. You weren't a part of the head-to-head points salary-capped draft we did. Scher might have gone for more than 50. Yeah, I think so. 31 for a second round caliber pitcher. I know he didn't go for less than 40.

That's... No, I'm obviously being facetious. That's a very good pickup. You got the fourth best starting pitcher in fantasy baseball. He could be for $31. And I have acknowledged that all long, it could blow up in my face. I really do feel terrible about it because I hate, you know, saying one thing all draft season. But the price...

There's a price for every player. There is no player. in fantasy baseball who you should this is something I was talking about Robbie Ray the other day on Twitter and how he's throwing like three miles per hour harder this spring and everyone's like

I'll never draft Robbie Ray and like okay cool I feel like everybody thinks Robbie Ray has been a lot worse than he actually has been in his career I think last year was the first time in like four years where he's had an area above four or five but like he's going outside of the top 250 top

300 right now he's throwing he's averaging 96 miles per hour with his fastball. Like, if there is no price you would be willing to pay to have Robbie Ray on your team, you're playing fantasy baseball wrong. Yep. And we'll talk about Robbie Ray a little bit later on. So I'm happy you brought him up, but he has been very interesting so far in spring training. And yeah, look, the reason I wound up with Scherzer, I had a plan.

I wanted either Lucas G. Alito or Aaron Nola heading into this salary cap draft. And I was willing to spend right around 30, maybe, you know, a little bit more 30 to 35. Gileeto goes for 36, Aranola goes for 38. And I was in on the bidding on both of them, and I just didn't want to go that far. So Max Scherzer, if you told me I could get Mac Scherzer for $7 less than Aranola, okay, at that point, I'm willing to invest. So I wind up with him.

Not exactly happy about it, but I'm happy that you were able to call me out, Chris, because I do deserve it. Do they use head to head points lineups, just nine hitters, or do they use roto lineups with 14 hitters? It's 14 hitters and then it's nine pitchers, but it's actually it's seven starting pitchers and two relief pitchers. Yeah. You should do you should have done that head head points salary cap draft with us. I think I think you may regret not going heavier at starting pitcher in that format especially.

I mean, I wound up a pretty good depth. I will say that. I don't have another quote unquote ace, but I wound up with Max Fried. I got Chris Paddock. I got Charlie Morton. I got Aaron Savale. I got Marcus Stroman. So it's all right.

It could have been better. We'll figure it out. Scott hates it. That's a Chris Towers lineup pitching staff. Today on the show, outside of talking about my teams and Scott's teams and Chris making fun of me,

we will do a quick recap of a Head-Ted Categories mock draft that you guys did late last week. Some people have been emailing in and saying, oh, well, you're doing a Head-To-Head points mock. You're doing this Roto's live salary cap draft.

What about us Head-Ted Categories players? So I'm going to look out for you. I'll help you out a little bit here. ADP differences from other sites. So we'll compare some ADP from ESPN and Yahoo to CBS as well. And some news and notes from the weekend, including four late round starting pitchers that we need to talk about. Robbie Ray is one of those players.

So let's start off with this head-side categories mock draft that you guys did. 12 teams for hitters, it's one of each infield spot, three starting outfielders, two utility spots. And then for pitchers, I believe it is two starting pitchers, two relief pitchers and just four pitcher spots. Right? Yeah, that's right. So I thought this draft was pretty interesting because

it felt like you guys both tried something new. And we'll start with your team, Chris. And you had the second pick, and it seems like you went with the Marmoul strategy. So you started with Mookie Betts, Adelberto Mondesi, Mani Machado has your first three picks. And then you come back around Tim Anderson, and you already have Monasey.

So Tim Anderson goes into one utilist spot. You pick up Cotel Marte as your second baseman. Then Kesson Heura in the sixth. That's your second util spot. Then you get Lordeus Gariel and your boy, Byron Buckson. Do you think you have enough speed on your team? Yeah. Yeah.

I like to refer to this as the Luis Castillo strategy. You know, just drafting all the middle infill. I was trying to think of like a really fast utility player to really get the analogy right. But I couldn't. So if you got anybody, Alfredo Emazica. that's the it's the it's the emeziga strategy I think that fits in with the Marmoral strategy yeah I actually I went into the draft thing I wasn't gonna get steals my thought was um steals were gonna be the one thing I avoided and then

uh it just kind like it's a categories league and Alberto Mondesi was there at 23rd overall he's my number 15 player in Roto so I kind of couldn't pass on that and then you know at that point you can kind of to just stop going after steals once you get there. But I went in knowing I was going to punt something. You know, stolen bases saves starting pitching, one of those things. And once I got stolen bases, I kind of pivoted to, well, I'm going to punt starting pitching and go with a Marmol strategy.

And so that's kind of how I ended up there. And, you know, the thing about, you know, a Marmal strategy is you really, you need to be in position to dominate. the non-starting pitching categories. And I don't know if I have, you know, power might be an issue for this team. It's going to depend on, you know, Kesten here are really clicking.

But if he does, I think I've got a decent chance to dominate several hitting categories and stolen bases are going to be among them. So I think it's an okay strategy. As for your pitching, let's talk about who you wound up with. It was,

you took Edwin Diaz and Reiselae Iglesias in rounds nine and ten. And your pitchers overall turned out to be those two plus Jordan Hicks, Hermann Marquez, Andrew Heaney, T.J. Anton, Framber Valdez, who I think you got in the 17th round, Alex Reyes, Dustin May, Emmanuel Class A from the Cleveland Indians, and Mitch Keller from the Pirates. So you have a lot of relievers and a starting pitcher that you can use on the road. How do you feel?

I'm fine with it. You know, obviously it's not perfect, but I think, the strategy there is I've got, I think three closers. I think Jordan Hicks is going to be the Cardinals closer. He's looked awesome in spring. So I've got three closers. And then there's a very specific type of reliever that I'm going for otherwise. And T.J. Anton actually might not be a reliever. He might have that fifth starting job in Cincinnati. But Anton Reyes, Dustin May, you know, I really like the guy who might be able to give me 90 to 100 innings of really, really, really good ratios and a ton of strikeouts.

So those guys help supplement it. And I think, like, Framervaldez could be a real key. If he ends up pitching and pitching well, you know, this could be a lot better. Are you worried about not meeting the weekly innings minimum? I mean, I've got one to... What is that minimum, by the way, Scott? It's 24, 25 starting pitchers. 25 minutes?

It's 25. Okay. It's 25. I kind of feel like I want to feel safe that I'm not going to get, I'm not going to fall short of the innings minimum. I kind of feel like I need four starting pitcher. I need to get four starts in my lineup, not necessarily four different starting pitchers,

but four starts. I've got four starts in my lineup coming out of the draft. Plus, at least one other guy who will be starting coming out. Because, I mean, Frambervaldez, we don't know if he'll be available by week one. But if he's not, I can throw Mitch Keller in there. Maybe Dustin May,

we still don't know exactly what his role is going to be. So it would be Marquez, T.J. Anton, Frambervaldaz slash Dustin Miller, Dustin May slash Mitch Pellar, and then Andrew Heaney. So I think innings I can get there. I think if I have, like you said, I think four starts, you know, you should be able to get 20 innings out of those guys.

And then you've got, what is it, three other, four other pitchers who can get five. Yep. And you mentioned that you have Jordan Hicks, who you think is going to be the closer. And you also got Alex Ray. So between those two, you might, I assume you locked up to close a role. Alex Reyes has looked really good in the, in spring training as well,

although they want to use him in a few different roles. So we'll see what happens with Alex Reyes. Scott, you would never use a strategy like this, right? On the pitching side, at least. I feel like you're, you're very anti-Marmole. No, no. No, I wouldn't. I think Marmal strategy made sense when there was more differentiation between hitters than there is today.

I think it's hard to, especially, when you're talking in week-long segments. I think it's really difficult to assure yourself that you're going to win those categories consistently enough to punt on wins and strikeouts, basically. I mean, you might win strikeouts occasionally, but it's obviously not going to be a strength when you're going up with a team with a normal allotment of starting pitchers.

So let's take a look at what you did instead. Two very different strategies. Chris used that Marmol strategy. Scott has a 12th pick. And this isn't normal for you either, Scott, because usually you like to come away with at least one starting pitcher in the first rounds, maybe even two.

And you started with Christian Yelich and Trevor Story. You still wound up with three starting pitchers and three hitters after your first six rounds. So Yelich and Story at the one two turn. Then you grab Brandon Woodruff and Kenta Maeda at the three four. Luis Robert, which someone sent me this over the weekend. Now it's Robert again.

So that's what we will go with. Luis Robbert, The outfielder first. Maybe it was the someone. You're just trusting random someone? Yeah. It seemed like a reputable article snippet from somewhere. So we're going to go with Louise Robert for now.

And I'll look that up after this podcast. But you got Robert and then you got Zach Plessack at the five, six turns. So walk me through this first six picks. Do you feel right about your starting pitching at that point? No, I mean, I wish it was stronger coming out of this draft for sure. I'm not thrilled with it. I think. you know, so my

starting pitchers again, made it, Maida is my number one in round three. That's, you know, taking him that early. I don't love, but I kind of was forced to after missing out the first two rounds. Woodruff is my number two. Zach Plesack as my number three.

And again, this is a 12 team league, not a 14 team league. Who's my number four? Oh, Sandy Alcantara. I mean, I like him as a breakout, but I want him as my number five at most, not my number four. So I think this format, for the same reason, you could potentially try the Marmal strategy in head-to-head categories.

I think you can, I think it makes a little more sense to go after high-end closers at this format. It's generally something I don't like to do, but this format would be the one I'm most likely to do it in and kind of to make up for the shortcomings of not having a guy who's going to strike out 220 batters plus in all likelihood.

I went with Karen Chack in round 10 and Rosenthal in round 11 to potential 100 plus strikeout guys in relief. So that kind of makes up for the lack of not having as many high-end starting pitchers as I want. I'd still rather have the starting pitchers, but that's the best I could do given the circumstances. Yeah, I just wanted to try it. I mean, for a Categories league, me picking 12th and Yelich and Storke, were both there. It's like I'm not used to seeing either of these guys at this point.

And hey, what if I took them both? Let's see if I could make that work. And I don't hate it, but I'm a little uneasy about my pitching situation. And if I was doing it for real, I wouldn't have even tried it. I would have at least taken one pitcher there. I probably would have taken Yelich and Bauer as opposed to Yelichin's story. But, you know, it was weird. Chris mentioned he was surprised at Albert.

Mertile Mondesi made it to him at the end of round two. I feel like everybody in this particular draft had punting steals in mind. It's something we've talked about on the podcast where we don't like doing it in a roto, but in this format, you know, giving up that one category that's expensive and kind of creates shortcomings in other parts of your lineup. It might be worth doing in this format. And it seemed like everybody went in with that in mind because the steals guy were, they were quite reasonable, beginning with Yelich and story making it,

to the round one, two turn, and then Luis Robert, Robert. I don't know about that. Luis, the White Sucks guy. End of round five. Last pick of round five in a categories league, a five-by-five league. That was shocking to me, so. I love that. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I said the, the, I might not punt steals in this format if they just fell in my lap. And I feel like that's exactly what happened in this draft between those. three picks. Again, that is our head-tead category draft. Our most recent one, we did that last week, and you can find the results on the website, cbsports.com. I will put the draft results for that in the podcast description as well.

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That is obviously very key to what we are trying to accomplish. Some news and notes from the weekend. Dave Roberts said he projects catcher Will Smith to start, quote, somewhere around 90 games this season. He also had this to say, I think that Will, with Austin, Barnes, that is, the combo, the sum is very good.

And I'll take that sum against any combo in all of baseball, production-wise, offensively, and defensively. So, Scott, I know when we first started doing this back in October, November, you were actually worried about this possibility with Will Smith, how far do we drop him in our catcher rankings?

Well, I had him as my number seven catcher, and so I'm just going to leave him as my number seven catcher. Yeah, that's pretty much what I have to say about that. Yeah, no, they did this with, they did this with Yasmani Grandal when he was there, and he was consistently one of the best catchers in baseball, and yet they'd start them less than any of us wanted them to. And he started 129 and 140,

or he played 129 and 140 games. He got 482 played appearances in 518. He was playing quite a bit. What year? His last two years in L.A. Okay. Well, he still started less than other catchers who were drafted, who were drafted in his range.

And it was frustrating. And then he went to Milwaukee and he played more than ever, put up career numbers. And, yeah, I mean, he only had one. year with 130 games played prior to 2018. So he wasn't playing as much as we want it. And, you know, I don't know that he's really going to start as few as 90. I think when push comes to shove,

Dave Roberts will run him out there more than that. But I think for the number three catcher, you're going to be disappointed in the volume. Bobby Wood Jr. has been reassigned to low A ball. Yikes. Yeah, I thought It's not surprising that they decided not to make him the starting second baseman after all

I mean he's 20 he's only played at rookie ball And it was less than 40 games and he didn't even perform that well So it was it was really aggressive even considering him I just I didn't think it would happen so soon Because the way Dayton Moore Was talking it sounded like they really wanted to challenge him Until they were convinced he couldn't handle the job and, you know, there's still a few more games

before they'd have to make that decision. But, you know, ultimately it's to our benefit that they decided it earlier than later because his Witt's ADP was shooting up and now I would say, you know, I wrote before the talk of him maybe capturing the second base job, I wrote that Witt was the sixth best minor leaguer to stash

behind guys like Wander. Franco and Jared Kalenick and McKenzie Gore Matt Manning a couple others and I think that's about right now because you know sending him to low A ball he's not going to be somebody who comes up in late April if he's

if that's where he's starting out he's going to have to climb a few levels first and I think it's still possible we don't see him at all this year yep and the comp I guess would be probably Juan Soto if you're talking about moving that fast he started out 2018 at Class A

16 games, 15 in high A, 8 at double A before making this. So it wouldn't be totally unprecedented. You're talking about Soto was also 19 that year. Witt is 19, right? 20. He's 20. Okay. So he's actually a year younger, but, you know, didn't get.

Although Soda had only played 32 games the prior year. So, but, you know, he's also maybe the best young hitter in Major League Baseball history. So Bobby Witt probably might need a little bit more than 36. games. And someone pointed out that he had a 30 he has a 33% strikeout rate in spring training. So he's doing some fun things 12 pitch walk against willio rias hitting all these home runs 480 feet. But Bobby Witt, you know, he still has things to work on striking out that much here in spring training. Plus defense. Yeah, he's got to work on a few things.

Actually, they liked his defense. I know you're just making a joke, but that was one of the things they were really happy about sticking with the Royal Salvador Perez, got to four-year extension for those who have him in Keeper or Dynasty League. So it doesn't look like he's going anywhere. The Rockies officially purchased the contract of C.J. Cron. And we spoke about him on last week's podcast on Friday and about how he is a rankings mover. He has looked really good in the spring so far and looks to be the starting first baseman for your Colorado Rockies.

Steven Schrosberg, who is dealing with a calf injury through 74 pitches over five in a simulated game on Friday. He was only scheduled to throw 60 pitches. So it was a welcoming sign that he was able to get through those 74 and apparently enough confidence for Scott to draft him in the fifth round of a 15 team league. So if you're trying to figure out where you should draft him, there you go.

It's probably, if that's in a 12-team league, it's probably in the sixth. So you do the math. However many teams your league has. Drew Pomeran to the left, has left forearm tightness of the San Diego Padres. And per Kevin ASE of the San Diego Union Tribune, Emilio Pagan. Emilio has a good chance to close games for the Padres this season

and has been the name most often mentioned by people within the organization as a potential closer. Scott, we spoke about every team's closure situation last week and you still lean towards Mark Malanson. Even with this report, are you sticking with Malanson? No, I would lean toward Pagan, but it's... That's not the most reliable criteria. I guess.

It's in the absence of any other criteria, it works for me. And certainly he's, you know, he was basically the closer down the stretch for the race two years ago. So he has some experience in the role. But it's still a situation where if you're playing in like a 15 team or something that deep, probably all three Padres relievers are going to be drafted. But Paghan should be the first one. Yeah, Paghan had two saves last year as well for the Padres. And he had 20 saves back.

in 2019, as you mentioned, Scott, with the Tampa Bay raise. AJ Casavelle of MLB.com writes that it is a, quote, near certainty. Denelson Lemette will not be on the Padres opening day roster. He is likely to start on the injured list, which, Scott, you have been talking about quite a bit before. I guess there's still a chance McKenzie Gore can make the team, but as of now, it looks like Adrian Morejon is going to be in the rotation for the Padres. Chris, how far does Denelson Lamet have to fall for you to draft him?

are drafting today? Well, I have him 119th at starting pitcher and overall you mean. Yeah, overall. Not at starting. I have 119th overall. I think that's in like the 40 range

at starting pitcher for me. So I do think I drafted him recently. We can win them in the last two weeks. But yeah, he has to fall outside of the first 10 rounds. And the main event draft that I did this weekend of 15th team league,

De Nelson Lament, went, at pick 169, and in the salary cap draft, which was a 12-team league, head-to-ed points, he went for $6 in that. So if you wanted some kind of indication of what his price egg is, again, that is Denelson-Lemette. The fluctuation is weird there. What do you think?

What do you mean? We don't know that much more than we did when he was being drafted in like the 65 to 70 range, you know, back like a month and a half ago. It's just, it's weird that he might be falling 100 picks now. And then if he was there at 140 or 150, I'd be very happy to take him. I think people presumed, you know, opening day wasn't like either he'd be fine in spring training or he won it. But that opening day wasn't really, it wasn't a question of whether he'd be ready for the start of the year.

So it's kind of catching people off guard that he isn't. But it's because he's behind in his progression and not because he suffered a setback or anything. So I'm actually getting to the point where I'm kind of okay with drafting Lament. I have him as my 35th starting pitcher now, but I have him ahead of Sunny Gray, who also may not be ready for the start of the season. I just think you look at that range and like, well, Lance McCullors doesn't exactly have a rock solid history of getting through 140 innings.

Joe Musgrove doesn't have a rock solid history of April through August. Sunday, Ray's got a back injury. Patrick Corbyn can't throw 9 miles an hour. Julio Reyes has never thrown more than 120 innings. I moved Corbyn way down.

I moved Corbyn way. I got Corby and Carrasco. I've got Corbyn 39th. I probably will move him down. But like, just, you know, that like, Dylan Bundy,

Jose Orquite, Kevin Gosman. We are not talking about guys in that range of the draft who you can look at and say, ah, yes. A steady, dependable predict.

performers. So, yeah, Lomet's got as much upside as any of them and only slightly more risk. Brennan Rogers is expected to miss a month with his hamstring injury. Reds pitcher Michael Lorenzen

was diagnosed with a right shoulder strain after exiting Saturday's B game. That's now Sunny Gray, Michael Lorenzen and T.J. Anton, who are currently dealing with ailments for the Cincinnati Reds pitching staff. Chris, your boy, I'm sorry, man. Oscar Mercado was assigned to minor league camp on Sunday.

I might as well not even play this season. All those picks out. I had multiple people on Twitter throw that one at me. All those picks at 3.40 or later are really going to come back to haunt me. I am. I am screwed. Were people really calling you out for that?

I got like three. That's hilarious. Yeah, it happens. Does this mean Ahmed Rosario is going to get the majority of the time out there? Because he had that three-er game. And he's played, I think, a couple times since then. and it's been less

headline worthy in a bad way. But yeah, that's surprising. Yeah, Bradley Zimmer is the other name that I saw mentioned playing center field. Remember that guy? Bradley Zimmer? Wow. Indians. Could use some outfield upgrades there.

Good thing you traded away, Francisco Lindor. I mean, it was true five months ago. And it's exactly as true as it was on the last day of last season that Cleveland could use some outfield upgrades. rates. Yeah. Why didn't they ask for, not that Dom Smith is a good defender, but someone else from the Mets, Smith or Brandon Nimmo or, they're not going to get Ford. You don't know that they didn't. Yeah, that's true. That's fair. Joey Votto has returned to Reds camp after his bout with COVID. So, looks like he's going to be ready to go for the start of the season. Former top prospect, Brent Honeywell will start Monday for the Tampa Bay raise. It is his first game action since September of 2017. So hopefully Brent Honeywell can make it through. Healthy. We're rooting for you, bud. Bryce Wilson.

Who's this guy? Just kidding. Having a solid spring for the Atlanta Braves, a 1.98 ERA, a 1.39 whip. And some are saying that he may even make the rotation. Scott, what do you think about that? Your boy, Bryce Wilson. Yeah, I think Kyle Wright had the advantage going in,

and he's been not great bad this spring. I mean, you're talking Wilson's stats there. There haven't been a lot of strikeouts, and it's a 1-4 whip. So I don't know. I don't know. Is there any chance Drew Smiley doesn't make the rotation?

I haven't heard anything along those lines, but they're not going to get 130 innings out of Drew Smiley this year, I don't think. So it might make sense to have them in the bullpen for stretches. I mean, based on what they're paying Drew Smiley, I think they would like him to be a starter,

at least for the beginning of the season, while Mike Soroka's out. And then maybe once Soroka comes back, then they can, you know, move things around a little bit with Drew Smiley. But I would assume, at least to begin the season, Smiley will be in the rotation. We'd rather see Bryce Wilson and Kyle right than Drew Smiley, right? I know there was like that two-week period when Drew Smiley was exciting,

but like... Drew Smiley's still kind of exciting. I like Drew Smiley's strikeout potential more than any of the others. Chris is not about it. He's like, nope, I don't want anything to do with Drew Smiley. Well, I mean, it's, it's Drew Smiley. Like, last season wasn't his first season. I know, but he was, he was throwing harder.

Season in a long time. He was throwing two miles per hour harder. But he was healthy in 2019. He threw 114 innings. They were just back. Well, he was still working his way back from Tommy John surgery and didn't have his his velocity back is he was still, still. He did not feel like he was all the way healthy.

All right. Drew Smiley. I haven't been Scott White's Dynasty League if you want him, Chris. Let's, let's talk. You can send me Joe Musgrove since you're... I think you read that wrong, Frank. I think you read the room wrong on that one. Yep, yeah.

You're probably right. Rangers top prospect, which I also found a big pronunciation weekend. Josh Young, not Jung. Josh Young, top prospect for the Rangers, was diagnosed with a stress fracture in his left foot on Saturday and will be out for the next six to eight weeks while recovering from surgery. If you are watching on the video side, don't go anywhere.

If you are listening to the podcast, We're going to take a quick break. But when we return, we're going to talk about four starting pitchers that are going very late in drafts that you need to know about. So let's talk about these guys. Robbie Ray, you brought up the name earlier, Chris, and he dominated the Tigers on Friday. Five and a third, four hits, one earned run, one walk,

seven strikeouts with 16 whiffs on 73 pitches. He averaged 96.2 miles per hour on his fastball. Last year, that was 93.9 miles per hour. The ADP for Robbie Ray, is 300. He went at pick 231 in my draft on Saturday. And I agree with you. Like, this is the perfect time to buy into Robbie Ray.

I understand that it's the American League East, and his floor is terrible. I mean, two weeks into the season, this guy gets blown up, you're dropping him. Okay, that's fine. It doesn't cost anything. Even if you have to take him at pick 250, we've seen this guy have top 50 upside in fantasy baseball.

Top 50 player. He was a top 150 pick last year. You know, he was in 2019. He had a slightly above average ERA 434. And he had 235 strikeouts the year before. He had a 393 ERA with 165 strikeouts in 123 and 223 and two-thirds innings. There has been one season in the last four where Robbie Ray was just a disaster. And it was last season.

But I actually think, like, based on what we've seen, the floor actually isn't that low. you know, he's been a starting caliber fantasy option most of his career. So I don't know. I think people are, maybe there's just like in people's heads. He has like multiple seasons with an ERA over five or something. But only once in the last four years has it been over four, three, four. And it was 12, 12 appearances last season. And this isn't like last spring.

I remember like, oh, Robbie Ray is working on his command. he's moved on one side of the rubber or the other and he hasn't walked like I don't that that's nothing like it's right you're you are right to just dismiss that because like every pitcher is working on their command you know like this is actually a tangible thing he's throwing significantly harder than he ever has I remember our guy Adamazer his bold prediction was that Robbie Ray wins the national league si young's that didn't happen he wound up in the American league um yeah did not win the a L sion either my my biggest my biggest objections to Ray prior to last year, so take the worst season out of the equation,

was whip killer and a five-inning pitcher, which to me made him difficult to use to get the big strikeout total that he was likely going to deliver, because obviously in a roto league, you're trying to protect your whip, in a points league, you really need those winnings. I don't, I, if we're saying his upside is

2019, 2018, you know, obviously where he's going, there's not really any downside to taking that, but I,

I want there to be more upside. Maybe because he's throwing harder, there is, you know, it's just walks have always been such an issue. Home runs have always

been such an issue. And then volume, throwing so many pitches because of all the walks, because of all the strike. that's always been an issue too. Someone else who is throwing harder and has

he has been a fantasy star in the past. Even better than Robbie Ray at times. James Paxson, he made his debut on Sunday, his spring debut, four and a third two hits, one earned, two walks, eight strikeouts, and apparently maxed out his velocity at 97 miles per hour. This is someone who last year dealt with back injuries.

He was only averaging 92 miles per hour with his fastball with the Yankees. Of course, now with the Seattle Mariners. Scott, what do you think about James Paxton? Are you buying into this at all? And who would you rather have between him and Robbie Ray? I would rather have Paxton. We've seen Paxton be close to ace level more regularly than we have Ray. And I was frankly very surprised by this performance for Paxton. He had been pitching Sim games up to this point so we didn't really know what was going on with him. But no team really wanted him this offseason. He went to the, a non-contender, the Mariners, for like $8 million.

So, I mean, that seemed like a signal to me, wow. There's, he might not be able to bounce back from whatever, whatever was wrong with his arm last year. But the kind of velocity showed striking out eight of the 16 batters he faced. Very good signs. Very good signs. You still can't trust him to be durable. But, I mean, at the price tag, definitely. Definitely somebody I need to start investing it a little more, I think.

Chris, would you rather have Paxton or Robbie Ray? Paxton. Yep. Yeah, definitely especially after this. Mm-hmm. Yep, very encouraging sign for one, James Paxson. Hopefully he can continue to build off of this. Another lefty.

Wow, I didn't even plan this. All these pitchers were talking about are lefties. All lefties, yeah. That's great. Carlos Rodon. I took him in the reserve rounds of my Tout Wars salary cap draft because after I saw what he did on Sunday, four shutout innings with five strikeouts.

He's now up to nine shutout with 10 strikeouts and zero walks this spring. I mean, that is the biggest takeaway for Rodon. The fact that he is getting whiffs, getting swings and misses, and he's not walking anyone. And the fastball velocity for Rodon on Sunday, 93.9 miles per hour,

that is harder than even when he was at his best. When he first came into the league, he averaged low 93. So, Sky, any takeaways here from Rodon? I thought for sure you're going to go to Chris for that one. I got to go to Chris with the next one, and it's a Marlins, of course. Okay, you pointed out, I think all the critical, I think Chris always wanted Carlos Rodon to be in Marlins, so that's why you don't know the whole backstory there.

That is taking me back. In addition to no walks in his nine innings, only four hits in the nine innings, 10 strikeouts, and the velocity being the biggest thing. I mean, like, it was Tommy John surgery he was coming back from. So, you know, something predictable, something, with a reliable track record. In the pandemic shortened season, probably didn't have the chance to build up

like you'd normally see from that injury. And so he had some major struggles. We saw that for Michael Fulmer too. Fulmer's velocity hasn't come back this spring. But if Rodons has, then I think that's something to get excited about with a late round pick. Especially going to get some starts

against the Tigers in the American League Central and should have a great run support with the White Sox obviously. So Carlos Rodan, he is not free. His ADP's almost 500. He'd be the lowest in priority of the three lefties we talked about. Paxton, I think would be a distant number one for me. And then Ray and Rodon would be more like your very last pick kind of flyers.

But even if your draft doesn't go on long enough for you to consider them, which it probably doesn't in shallow or 12 team type leagues, definitely somebody you're going to guys are going to want to monitor their first turn or two through because the upside is there for them to contribute. The last South Pole, we need to talk about Trevor Rogers from your Miami Marlins on Sunday. Five innings, two run ball, one walk, six strikeouts, 14 whiffs for Trevor Rogers on 71 pitches, the fastball velocity. He averaged 94.6 miles per hour last year for Trevor Rogers. That was 93.6. Chris, give us a scouting report on your boy.

Yeah, it's, he was a first round. pick 13th overall in 2017, but he's never really had, uh, you know, a ton of hype as a prospect. Last year, he was, he was not even ranked last year by baseball America coming off of a year. We had 290 ERA. Um, he's always had a lot of strikeouts in the minors. He's a big tall lefty who throws hard. Uh, and last season, he had 39 strikeouts in 28, innings. You know, the, the, the IRA was ugly, 6.11, but, you know, with the kind of stuff he has, I think it was a, uh, Scott was a, Craig Mish we were talking about said he's the best left-handed pitching prospect the Marlins have developed since Dantra Willis.

That was the guy, yeah. Not a, if you know anything about the Marlins, it's not a terribly inspiring list. Although they had Scott Olson. They didn't draft Carlos Rodan after all. That's true. But they didn't have Scott Olson back in like 2006. He was a name of some renown at the time. No, Trevor Rogers, I think is being probably undervalued.

I think is a good talent. And the fact that he's throwing so hard this spring, is a really good sign, especially when you consider Miami's very recent track record in getting the most out of their starting pitchers. Last year, their starting staff was actually quite good, and I think we, I mean, there's three consensus top 150 guys in ADP in there. And I think Trevor Rogers, I've got him 245, I think overall.

So in the like 60-ish range, I want to say, starting pitcher. I just moved him above the likes of he's 80th actually at starting pitcher. So just above the likes of Trevor or Casey Mize and Tariq Scoobal, who I think are more talented pitchers, but don't have a rotation spot to start the season. So yeah, I like him. The ADP for Trevor Rogers is 412.5. Chris, would you rather have Rogers or Rodon? I would rather have Rogers. What do you think, Scott? I think rank in the four again, I go Paxton, Ray. I know it's kind of hard on Ray, but I do think it'd be second here.

Paxton, Ray, Rogers, and Rodon. I think that's the same order I have them in. But Rogers did have three pretty good swing and miss pitches last season, too. And that was when he was starring 94. So it's interesting. Interesting, indeed. Some observations that I noticed from drafts this past weekend. I mentioned that I got Zach Plesack at 107.

I guess, I think the spring has scared some people off. Scott, obviously not you. And you've talked about that before. and Zach Plissack did have another star recently, which was much better. So I think... And with Ahmed Rosario in Center Field. Yeah.

And that guy... Ruined Beaver star, but didn't ruin Pleasax. Yeah. He did. Better than Shane Bieber. You heard it here first. There you go. The next Shane Bieber, Zach Plissack.

We're just kidding. Please don't believe that. Carlos Carrasco went at pick 289 in my main event. That's way too late. That is... It's an overreaction. I... Did not go that late in ours.

It never felt right for me. There was always something that I needed more. So I kept looking at him, but I just, I couldn't pull the trigger. He went for, Carlos Carrasco went for $5 in that Tout Wars head to head points salary cap draft. So again, for reference if you need it. Lament went to pick 169 in that draft I did. He went for $6 in Tout Wars. Jared Kellnick went at pick 179 and Andrew Vaughn went at pick 182.

They went to the same guy. So similar strategy to what you did, Scott, drafting, both Kelnick and Andrew Vaughn, especially if you need the upside in one of those deeper leagues. I'll point out this was round 14 and 15, where it went Kelnick and Vaughn back to back in a 15 team league. So, like, all these guys fell. It's not like we made a conscious effort to get all the top prospects

who may not be up on opening day. But, like, it just all fell to us, and we were happy to take them. Because I do think they'll all be up. I really do think they'll all be up before the end of April. Kirloff and Franco being the others. And there's a very good chance Vaughan is there on opening day. You said you took Shohei Otani in the 11th round, right? Of a 15 team league.

I just checked. I got him in round 14. So that is... That's very... What's the usage rules for him in that format? Same as CBS. You'll eligible. You just pick at the start of the week.

Yeah. And we're planning to use them mostly as a hitter. I don't know. We haven't gotten to this. I don't know if it was in your news. notes, Frank, but Otani played like he started he was the starting pitcher and the leadoff

hitter today for the Angels. He was on base three times. He struck out five and four innings. Joe Madden has been saying they're not going to follow the old rules for him where they took him out of the line up the day before he started, took him out of the line of the day after that he kind of, he's kind of leaving it up to Otani

to tell him when he wants out. If he gets 500 played appearances and 25 games started, like unfortunately in this format, you're not going to be able to take advantage of both of those, but if he could actually do that for a full season, I mean, you're talking about he's going to break fantasy.

Outrageously valuable player in especially a daily lineups where you can start him in both. And if he's starting that consistently, like, I could see him hitting like 280 with 25 homers, 20 steals, like really hard to take out of the hitter spot. As much as everybody needs more

high-end starting pitchers, it's going to be really hard to justify in a roto league especially for the steals need. I'm kind of to the point now with Otani where like we were there in round 11 and I just could not let him get biased. Maybe I could have held out a few more rounds like you did, Frank, but I did not want to chance it.

I mean, he could be Austin Meadows as a hitter. Chris, you said that like, he started comparing everyone to Austin Meadows. It's like, hey man, Austin Meadows is really good. Not everyone can be Austin Meadows. I know, Shai's really good. He's a once in a century player. Yeah.

That's not an insult. He has the ability to break fantasy baseball this season. Shohay Otani. I feel I acknowledge that upside. And kind of the way that Lamar Jackson broke fantasy football, I mean, we could be talking about Otani halfway through the season in a similar way. Again, leading off, reaching base three times. And in the same game, five strikeouts against one of the best lineups in baseball.

They didn't have everyone in there. One of those strikeouts was against Fernando Tatis. Like, who does this? It's just absolutely crazy. The last name I wanted to bring up, Framber Valdez. He went to pick 218 in my draft this weekend. And in the reserve, I got him in the reserve rounds of the salary cap draft. So we went through, I don't know how many, I can't do the math on the top of my head, but 12 teams, 14 hitters, nine pitcher spots, all those.

We went through all those, and Framber Valdez did not get taken. And then I got them in the reserve rounds. So unlimited IL spots? Sure. I'll take it. No issues there with Framber Valdez. Let's quickly wrap up with some ADP on other sites and just kind of compare and contrast.

Some people have been asking us about, you know, we use fantasy pros a lot, which is an aggregate of every site, but we don't specifically look at, okay, well, what's the ADP on ESPN versus Yahoo versus CBS? So let's just start off with ESPN, and I pointed out a few players here that caught my eye. Mookie Betts, they have as their number one player overall.

Cody Bellinger, number 12, it's a little bit higher than ADP. Marcelo Zuna is at pick 30 in ADP for ESPN drafts, and that is 42.6 across all of the other formats. So, Marcelo Zuna a little bit higher up there. Nolan Aronado, I mean, please do not draft him at pick 31, because that is his ADP on ESPN, and I think it's still too high on other... I thought it was 30 over the weekend for...

Has it gotten moved down since then? for Nolan Aronado it's 31 31 on ESPN it's 33 on CBS it's 26 on Yahoo it's 33.4 overall

still 42.7 NFC which is lower a little more reasonable but he went in the fifth higher than I have him I added I added Aronado

to my bus 3.0 which came out Friday check it out on the site he was he was one of the biggest additions I probably wouldn't if his ADP was like 50. Kind of breaking my own rules

for bust now because, you know, I'm just trying to get more thoughts out there. Yeah, that's, I don't know. I feel like,

what's Aeronado's best case scenario in St. Louis? I'm thinking like 280 average 35 homers. I mean, the best case scenario is what Matt Holiday did, which was just basically stay the same hitter after leaving Coorsfield.

Him and Larry Walker are the two who stand out as the two guys who left Corps, lead hitters, and we're still elite hitters after that. But the holiday was more like a second third round type, elite hitter versus a first round type, right? I mean, he didn't have another 36 homer season

like he had in Colorado. Yeah, he lost, yeah, he wasn't quite as good. There were injuries as well, but yeah. Yeah, and he lost him, he wasn't a 320 to 340 hitter. He was a 280 to 300 hitter. He lost, he lost some production. He was still elite. And I'm saying the same thing for Aeronado,

280 with 35 homers. It's just, you know, Ozone is going later than that. I think he's very likely to do the same thing. Aloi Jimenez is going later than that. I think he's very likely to do this. There's like a lot of hitters. And that's the best case scenario for Aeronado. I keep thinking people aren't taken into account the shoulder injury he was dealing with last year.

And he says he's feeling better. But it's not like he's had, there's a difference between comfort. I feel better. And I have all my strength back, which I'm not even sure he'd be able to tell. And he hasn't put on a power. display in spring training or anything. I mean, that's not, that's not necessarily meaningful, but I'd feel a lot better if he had, you know?

How far does Aronado have to fall, Scott, for you to actually consider taking him? Outside the top 50, he has to fall behind. Yeah, so top 50, you've got like Tim Anderson there, Kinta Maida, Pete Alonzo's, right? Like, I think that's the range. You'd have to, I'll just say. outside the top 50, I'd consider Aranano. A few other names.

Luis Castillo is at 80p 40 on ESPN, whereas it is 26 on CBS. That is, I mean, it might be all Scott there because, well, I like Castillo too, but we put points leagues in general too. Yeah, we do a lot of points leagues on CBS, and Castillo is 40th on Yahoo as well.

So I do think he's, if you can get him in the fourth round of a 12-team league, definitely undervalued on those websites. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. is at 42 on ESPN versus 50 on CBS, 46 on Yahoo. So he's 10 spots higher than the overall ADP for Vlad Jr. That ADP is 52.2. So he's a little bit higher on ESPN.

Alberto Mondi is at pick 55 on ESPN. That is 31 on CBS, 28 on Yahoo. So I don't know if there are just a lot of points leaves going on ESPN, and maybe that's why Mondi is this low. but man, if you play in any type of categories league, whether it's heads ahead or roto, and Mondesi even slips to the fourth round in that type of format on ESPN,

definitely should be looking in that direction. We have not talked about this recently. I think maybe you briefly mentioned it once, Chris, but about Zach Gallen. He is at ADP 56 on ESPN. That's 47 on CBS and that's 51 on Yahoo. So he's the lowest of the big three sites on ESPN at 56.

And they're talking about a potential innings limit for Gowan. So do you believe that? I mean, how many endings do you like would you tentatively project for Zach Allen this season? He's definitely, you know, not in that group

who I think can go 200. You know, he did in 20, 2019, he threw a bunch of innings between the majors and minors. It was 171. So I think he could get to that level again. But I think, you know, that's probably closer to the ceiling than, you know, than it is for some other pitchers being drafted in that range.

So I've cooled off on him a little bit. They didn't get into specifics. I don't think when they were talking about limiting his innings. They just, you know, talked about how they need to be careful with the jump for him specifically. And it was enough for me to drop him behind Burrind and Woodruff. I had a head of Woodruff before. I was already kind of teetering on that. So I drop Gallon behind Woodruff.

Yeah, I'm going to be. And the way Tori Lovolo talked about it was, quote, everybody needs to be mindful of the workload they had last year and jumping from 60 to 70 innings to 200 is not necessarily going to be safe for everybody. He was asked if they would prioritize maybe skipping a turn, giving him an extra day early in the season, or pulling him from starts early. And he said, yeah, that's exactly right.

You guys have been around us long enough. Every once in a while, we jump into a six-man rotation to give guys an extra day or we get creative with days off. There's a design in that as far as the other piece of it. If we're winning game 9-1 and he's threw five clean, do I take him out of the game to preserve innings? I haven't thought about that part of the equation. So it doesn't sound like at the very least they're not willing to talk about a firm plan.

And I would guess, as with most things, we want one number. That way can say, okay, Zach Allen's going to get to 180 innings and then stop pitching. That's not how it works. He could sprain his ankle and miss three weeks. then have no ending concerns for the rest of the season. You know, it's that kind of thing where, you know, it's all probabilistic. It's all ranges, but the width of the range is wider for someone like gallon

than it is for someone like Max Scherzer, let's say, you know, barring health. You know, if they're both healthy, Max Scher's floor and ceiling are both a lot higher than gallons. Over on ESPN, Nick Cassianoos has an ADP of 62 on CBS. that's 81 and on Yahoo, that's 82. So he is a little bit higher in ESPN, but Scott has Cassiano's ranked 63rd overall,

and I have him 66th. So we are pretty much in line with his ESPN rank, and we'd be all right taking him in that sixth round range for Nick Castiano. Eddie Rosario is at pick 72 on ESPN. That's 120 on CBS and 118 for Yahoo. That is just a huge discrepancy. So if you play on CBS or Yahoo and Eddie Rosario is just hanging around,

that is just fantastic value versus ESPN rank. Anthony Rizzo is at pick 75 on ESPN. That's 99 on CBS and 86 on Yahoo. Matt Chapman is at 88. And so that's about 12 spots higher than his overall ADP. Steven Strassberg is down at 92 on ESPN. So that's 58 for CBS and 61. for Yahoo.

So that seems actually like a great value for Steven Strassburg on that site. And then Kestinjura is at 94. That is, that's about 25 picks passes ADP in ESPN leagues. And Michael Brantley is at 96 on ESPN, which is 50 spots higher than his ADP, which is 146.2 overall. On Yahoo, mentioned a few of these already, but Aronado and Luis Castillo, Aronado at pick 26, too high. Luis Castillo at 40, too high.

Brandon Woodruff at 53, Scott. You took him at pick. I guess that would have been 49 in that headset categories, mock draft. But even there, I still, I feel like he's a good value, especially in the fourth round of a 12-team league, Brandon Woodruff at ADP 53.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not that concerned with ADP about starting pitchers specifically, because I know there's a finite number of ones that I think. are going to be of real value to me. And I know I need a certain number of them. So I kind of just go with the flow.

And, you know, that happens to be really close where I took Woodruff and where he goes on average. But I, you know, if it was Kinta Maeda there, around pick number 40, the fact that he usually goes 50-something, you know, if he's my next best pitcher. and I know I need another pitcher now, and I wouldn't have objections to taking them 10 picks early. Javier Baez and Yerdan Alvarez are both going inside the top 60 picks in Yahoo! Leagues, and Javier Baez, his actual ADP is 77.8, so he's pulled up about 20 picks, and then Yurdan Alvarez is the same thing. His overall ADP across all sites is 80.6.

So he's about 21 picks ahead of ADP on Yahoo for Yerdaun Alvarez. Nelson Cruz similarly picks 65 on Yahoo. That's 89.4 overall for his ADP, so he's a little bit higher there. Lance, go ahead. Two utility spots in the Yahoo default lineup. That definitely makes sense to point out. So, yeah, it increases their value, obviously, in leagues with two utility spots. Lance Lynn on ESPN is all the way down at 69.

And I'm not even a big Lance Lynn fan, but his ADP is 52.4. So he's going about 17, 18 picks later there. Yoan Moncada is at 71 on ESP on Yahoo. That's 94.6 overall. So he's a little bit higher.

Lourdes Gurriel has an ADP of 77. That's 14 picks higher than his normal ADP. That's surprising. So his ADP is 91? Yes. For Lorda's Grillo.

Wow, I've got him 58. I didn't realize I was that much higher on him, but I think he's really good. Yeah, I think Lordus Curiel is rock solid, someone that can help you across the board. Jose Berrios is at 91 on Yahoo. That is 77.8 at all other locations. So, a bit of a discount there. Chris Bryant is at 94 on Yahoo. That's 113 for other locations.

Zach Plesack is all the way down at 95. his ADP is just all over the place. So it's 75 on CBS, thank you, Scott, 95 on Yahoo for Zach Plessack, and 112 on ESPN. So if you play on ESPN or Yahoo, you are getting Zach Plessack

at a very good discount. And let's just wrap up with our own ADP here at CBS, see what's going on there. Corey Seeger, no surprise. Another one that is aided by Scott White. Corey Seeger has an ADP on CBS of 22. that is 33.8 on other sites. Are you actually willing to do that, Scott?

Like two, three turn in a 12-team league for Seeger? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I am, you know, I might go pitcher-pitcher if the pitcher's good enough, but I think if it drops past like Luis Castillo, that's not a second-round pitcher in my mind anymore. You know, normally I'm thinking third round for Corey Seeger.

We took them in the second in that 15-teamer, but it was a 15-teamer. Luis Robert Robert. on CBS is, has an ADP of 48. There are a lot of points leagues that we do. So he, I got him a couple of weeks ago. We did the head-side points mock, I think in the eighth round. I think normally in a points league you can start to look for him in the seventh. But in a roto league, Robere usually goes in like the fourth or fifth, the four or five turn.

So a bit of a value there on CBS. Jose Altuve has an ADP on CBS of 57. No other site has him higher than 80. So that's what they say I draft with people from these sites They never let them fall to 80 Liars Liars

I still think Jose Altuva is one of the better values this season Zach Granky on CBS is at ADP 72 And on the other sites combined 97.4 So he is going higher on our site

and again lots of points leagues and Granky does excel in that format to Nelson Lamet has an 80P on CBS of 87. Overall, that is 100. So he should probably fall a little bit further now that it looks like he's not going to be ready for the start of the season.

Again, that's Denelson Lamett. John Carlos Stanton, one pick later at pick 88. Again, this one's aided by Chris. So thank you for actually taking... How am I more impactful on Paddock than Granky when I'm the only person who ever drafts Granky? I mentioned Stanton. I didn't mention Pank.

Oh, yeah, but either way. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess you ate both of those, right? I'm Granky's more my guy this year than Stanton is. Nah, I mean, that's all off. Stanton's always your guy. Yeah, but you know.

Let's see, what do you actually have him in your... You have him 64th. Scott has him 94th. I have him 92nd. Chris has John Carlos Day and 64th. Stick to your guns, man. I appreciate it. A few other names here.

Chris Paddock is going at pick 89. That one might actually be because of me, so there you go. We're all influencing ADP. Wilson Contreras is all the way up at 95. He's going inside the top 100 picks on CBS. That is 110.8 across all other formats. Wilson Contreras entering a contract year has looked phenomenal so far in the spring. Carlos Correa, like his teammate Jose Altuve, is higher on CBS 96, and he is 120.6 on all the other

sites combined. And Patrick Corbyn, this one's interesting. His ADP is 97 on CBS. Scott, I don't know. you're going to have to explain this one to me because you lowered him. But Patrick Corbyn, 97 on CBS, 136 on ESPN, 137 on Yahoo. Well, you said you're giving us credit for these players ADP for the most part. I'm sure it's mostly projections, which we have nothing to do with. True. And I would guess projections built up, use the starting point as Corbyn's three-year average, which obviously the first two years were really good.

Yeah. If you just think he's toast, like I'm kind of leaning, then you know, you're obviously going to come in lower than the projections. And that is a great time to remind everyone, Scott, that when you do a draft on CBS, the first thing you should do is you see a little drop-down arrow that says projections. Hit that. Click on Scott White's rankings.

Click on Chris Towers ranks. Click on my ranks if you want to. But just use the rankings. Don't use the projections. That's the last thing that I will add there. All right. We hit a lot today. I think, you know, we're getting a lot done.

Scott, you mentioned that your sleepers, breakouts, and bus 3.0 are on the site. That will be tomorrow's podcast. So we will update everyone on what's going on there. Chris, if you have any updated sleepers or breakouts that you want to talk about, we can do that as well. For Scott and Chris, I am Frank. Thank you all for listening and watching fantasy baseball today. We'll be back again tomorrow. Bye-bye.