Fantasy Baseball Today - Live H2H Points Mock Draft! (07/17 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

Before we get into the draft and who will be participating in our listener leagues, Adam has a spicy take on Robbie Ray!... You've all patiently waited but here are the participants in this year's Fantasy Baseball Today listener leagues (3:04). ... And the draft begins (4:53)! Is Mookie Betts the pick at three in a H2H points league? ... In the second round, Adam debates stacking hitters or taking Jack Flaherty (10:15). Pitching is flying off the board. ... In the third round, Scott explains why he took Trevor Story over Trea Turner (18:43). Frank explains his double-dip on starting pitchers. ... Wait, Max Kepler and Nick Castellanos went in the fourth round (25:00)!? ... Chris takes Sonny Gray to start the fifth round (32:15) and we have a Yu Darvish debate. Why does Josh Hader still go this early in a H2H points league? ... What happens when you draft no pitchers through six rounds in this format (38:38)? ... Chris times out to start the seventh round (46:07) and we have breaking Freddie Freeman news! Is Adam a Houston Astros fan? ... In round eight, we start to see more relievers come off the board (53:12). Chris loses his mind when Matthew Boyd gets drafted! ... As a result he has to reach on Rich Hill and Carlos Martinez at the 8/9 turn (59:04). ... We have some breaking Yasiel Puig news (1:06:18). ... We hit the double-digit rounds and beyond (1:07:15)! Subscribe to our new YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @CBSFantasyBB, @AdamAizer, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Download our printable Draft Kit from CBSSports.com/draftkit! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Domingo Santan, because of a Cicke, like Michael Walker, Polanco, and from... Well, hey there, welcome to fantasy baseball today on a Friday, July 17th, and we've got a busy one for you.

Frank Sample here with Adamazer, Chris Towers, and Scott White. Are you guys ready to draft? Oh, yeah. We just finished the roto mock that Scott had us in last night. Roto one that he made us do.

Took about 12 hours. Are we ready to draft? We're ready. over ready to draft. I actually got to a point where I was dissatisfied with every mock draft I was doing because I'd seen so much, I was so over-prepared that I kept assuming the best case scenario

that I'd seen in some other draft of some player falling would happen in this current one. And I think I finally broke through that state of over-preparedness last night and it kind of recalibrated. I'm ready to be good at drafting again. I hated my team last night. so hopefully I can turn this one around.

Chris is here. How are you doing, Chris? I loved my team. Well, at least one of us did. I got all of my guys, even though I panicked and took Luke Voight like five rounds too early. But it's okay because Luke Voight's awesome. As I wrote in my breakouts column, he's going to be an early round pick next year. Go read it on CBSSports.com.

It may have been one round too early. It was like 150 and he usually goes around 200. Yeah, but you like see. But in terms of where he deserves to go, It was probably too late. With people like us, he would go earlier than that. All right, guys. Today on the show, we're doing a 12-team Hed Points mock draft with you, the listeners.

Before we get to that, I'm going to give you the submissions for our listener leagues. And before we get to that, Adam has a little bit, has a note he wants to give us real quick. Robbie Ray is going to win the Salyong. That is my bold prediction. He feels better than he's ever felt. He changed his mechanics. He is working on his consistent delivery, making it more repeatable.

He allowed one run, one hit, did not walk a batter, and struck out nine in six innings Wednesday night in an intra-squad game. He has had stretches with good control before, so one start does not matter. But the changes he is trying to make, they might actually be paying off. And if he gets that control together,

like even 3.2 walks per nine, he can become Blake Snell and go from a guy whose control was holding him back to one of the best pitchers in baseball. I truly believe that. Robbie Ray is going to win the Sai Young Bowl prediction. Spicy take from Adam here on a Friday. I know the draft's about to start.

Scott, if you could help me out and just pause that while I read off the people who are joining us in the listener leagues, I would appreciate that. And then we'll get started right after this. I just want to thank everybody for sending in your submissions, songs, poems, all the creativity that we received. The emails from people who didn't have the means to make a song. I appreciated all of it.

Again, I was floored. The creativity, the thoughtfulness, it was fantastic. Unfortunately, we can only choose so many people. So I apologize if we didn't get you in this year. There's always next year. We'll try and get you in. So joining us in the 12-team head-to-head points mock draft, not mock draft, actual listener league, apologies.

This Monday, July 20th at 10 p.m. Eastern Time, myself, Scott, Chris, and Adam will be. I made it. He made it. Right. I'm glad you liked my song. I appreciate it. Joining us will be Samuel French. Woo, give it up for him.

Brady Francisco Fitzmaurice. Great name. Daniel Zumo. Apologies if I pronounce your name wrong, by the way. Mark Lindsay, Trenton Clifton, Michael Carter, Jason Lawrence, and Drew D'Amico. Congrats.

You made it to our 12-team Head to Point Listener League this Monday. And then next week on Wednesday, we have the For the People League. You'll be joining all of us here, plus Heath Cummings. And those people will be. Holton Siegling, Lamonte Williams, Mike Snyder, Stephen Leidick, Adam Bushman, Van Burnett, Theodore Shernoff, Aaron Moss,

John Riley, Justin Yates, and Neil Singleton. So give yourself a pat on the back. You have made it into our listener leagues. Again, just make sure that you can make it into those drafts and apologies for those that did not make it. But try again next year. We appreciate it. All right, Scott, let's get this draft started.

A 12-te-to-head points league mock draft. You know the rules. One catcher, three outfielders, one utility, five starting pitchers, and two relief pitchers on the board with the first pick is Chris. We're going to take Chris. Mike Trout, right? Oh, no.

I'm at the point where in a points league, it's either Yelich or Cole. What's he going to do? I actually don't think I've drafted Christian Yelich this year. So might as well see what a team with him on it looks like. All right. The first player off the board is Christian Yelich. To Chris. And next up is Scott.

Yeah, and I'm with Chris. It's Yelich and Cole at the top here. Trout obviously moving down because of the likelihood. I think he misses about a week during the season when his wife gives birth. So, you know, that's a big chunk of a nine-week season to miss. And that makes it more like a mid-first rounder to me. So I'm taking Cole here, get that starting pitcher advantage right out of the gate in a points league. This is the format where I'm more focused than ever on getting high in starting pitchers

because there's so few lineups to fit, lineup spots to fill. and there's no need, obviously, to juggle categories. It's just a good hitter is a good hitter, no matter what specifically he brings to the table. Yeah, and we just talked about this yesterday, Scott, where the reason why we would take Garrett Cole's second overall in this format is because you get some damn good hitters in that second and third round range as well. You can get Devers, maybe even a Rendon,

you can get J.D. Martinez, Bryce Harper. So they're very good hitters, and I would rather have that hitter with Garrett Cole versus someone like Mookie Betz or Cody Bellinger with a Jack Flaherty. That's just me personally. Chris, you had a question. No, I was going to congratulate you on your pick of Mookiee Betts. I believe he is the right pick after Cole and Yelich are off the board in a points league. I've kind of evolved to that late.

I just think he's being a little overlooked or underrated. I mean, it's hard to be overlooked or underrated when you're fifth and ADP. Is he in your sleepers column, Chris? Put him in your sleepers column. We'll have, first of all, nobody in my sleepers column has an ADP over like 52. So show some respect. I had some early round sleepers in addition to mid and late round sleepers. So I'm not going to take your taunts.

But, you know, Mookie Betts, he's in a points league, he's got incredible plate discipline. He's going to hit at the top of that Dodgers lineup. So he's going to have more opportunities than Cody Bellinger. he's a good power hitter not elite obviously but tons of doubles tons of triples stolen bases he's just efficient across the board in a way that I think like like we've seen him be the number one player twice right in four years yeah yeah and the the kind of working assumption in the fantasy industry is that he's like in that top tier but kind of removed from them a little bit and it's like

No, Mookiee Betz can be the best player in baseball. We've seen him do it multiple times. Yeah, I mean, it's between Betts and Bellinger for me. No, guys, Bregman. What about Bregman? Bregman's right after that. I mean, I have Bregman ahead of Acuna. You took Bregman here ninth overall.

So we have a few interesting picks here. Yeah, let's go through everybody's picks. I don't know how you guys ended up with the first three picks, by the way. That was, hey, all I did was January to join, and Frank didn't randomize the draft order after that. Oh, it's Frank's fault. It's always Frank's fault. Wow.

Wow. That's the new good. But okay. Chris was the last person to join. Max Scherzer went fourth overall. Justin Verlander went fifth overall. Jacob de Grom went eighth overall. Jacob de Grom falling to fourth here.

I just don't think the facts support that. I think that's a little bit of red cross fear happening when people see that red cross next to Jacob de Grom's name here in the draft room. It sounds like he's fine. Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah. I think a lot of the coaches. A lot of the COVID news has been fairly encouraging.

Like even Freddie Freeman hasn't been ruled out for week one, but DeGrom might not be the opening day starter, but I'm not sure that he's going to miss a full turn in the rotation. I mean, like, well, the way DeGrom himself describes it is he woke up his back, was feeling little sore, he mentioned it to management, was kind of on the fence about it. He didn't want to do an MRI. He agreed to out of abundance of caution.

It was fine. So, you know, the Mets management is being a little dodgy. about it compared to DeGrom, but it sounds like DeGrom's fun. All right, let me catch everyone up on what's going on here. The first round, Yelich, then Garrett Cole went second, I took Mookie Betts, Max Scherzer fourth overall, Verlander fifth, Cody Bellinger went sixth overall, Mike Trout went seventh, then DeGrom, Alex Breggman, to Adam, Mike Clevenger, 10th overall, look, guys, I know that pitching gets pushed up the board

and they head-to-head points league. Clevenger went 10th, Zach Granky went 11th, then Ronald Acuna and Soto at the turn. And now we're seeing... Frank, let me jump me because I'm on the clock and I want to talk about what you're speaking about right now. Yeah, do it. All right. So after Granky, then Acuna, Soto, Strasberg, Bueller.

So I love Flaherty. You know I love Flaherty. We've seen Clevenger and Granky and Bueller who might not be ready for a full... Yeah, Bueller's. So for me, it's Flaherty or Rendon. Rendon is amazing in this format. And I have Bregman, who I think should be the second hit or taken in this format. personally. I don't know what to do. I think I'm going to have to take Flaherty. Passing up on Rendon

in a points league is killing me. But seeing the way pitchers are going off the board, I don't know who's going to be left for me late in the third round. So I took Flaherty. Go ahead, Chris. I want to go back to one point that Scott said that the facts don't back up Jacob de Grom being fourth. So Justin Verlander, obviously the injuries are the reason he's dropped and why he's kind of out of the tier with Cole and de Grom. The question is how much of those, how much should you discount Justin Verlander for that? Oh, I think it's totally a de Grom thing.

Nobody was talking about DeGrom fourth. Like, DeGrom was consensus one or two before this back thing came up. Yeah, no, no, no. I don't think this is a reflection on Verlander at all. No, no, no, but I mean before Verlander had the issues in spring training, he was, you know, either two or three, but it was definitely a group.

Justin Verlander wasn't just like a little bit better than Jacob deGrom last year. He outscored him by 180 points in this format. He was 30% better than Jacob deGrom. That is, that's one thing where like I know the risk with Verlander is incredibly high, but the upside is unbelievably high too. Mostly wins. A lot of that is wins related because DeGrom had 11 and Verlander

had 21. I mean, that's fair. I had to be talked in to moving DeGrom up to second. I originally had him fourth. That's 50 points, right? Or 70 points? Yeah. And they were, they differentiated by three quality starts. Verlander had three more quality starts than DeGrom. Right, but that's not, that's, that's a skill thing. And Verlander had two more starts overall than DeGrom. He had 34 starts versus 32 for DeGrom. That's a, I mean, that's still like only a third of the point different. between them last year. Shane Bieber, we've had 10 starting pitchers go off the board now. And Shane Bieber, this is probably his better format,

if you're going to pick a format to be better or worse than for Shane Bieber. He's the 10th off the board. Like, that's, we've seen Zach Granky go before him. We've seen Steven Straussberg go before him. Flaherty. Flaherty's not so uncommon, I guess. But honestly, I think even Walker Bueller needs to move behind Shane Bieber now. I think especially in a points league.

Yeah, yeah. Like, you could be three weeks into the season before you're really getting much out of Walker Bueller. All right, so catching you up on what's happening here. You mentioned it. Shane Bieber goes off the board in the middle of the second round. Aronado goes and Anthony Rendon. And now Freddie Freeman finally goes off the board.

And, of course, there are some COVID concerns with him. And now I am on the clock. And now I have to ask myself, because I know Scott is picking after me, and I know that he is going to take at least one pitcher, maybe two. So I have to debate whether or not I want someone like Jose Ramirez, who was the top scoring hitter in this format back in 2018. Or do I want to double down on starting pitchers here

and take one in my second and third round, seeing the way that they're flying off the board. And, you know, given the depth at third base, I am leaning towards the double-diff. of starting pitchers, just seeing how they're flying off the board. So that's exactly what I'm going to do. And my next ranked pitcher in this format is Lucas Gielito. So it's early. I realize that, but the way that pitchers are going here, I've got to get my pitching in a head-to-head points league. Wow. Well, Chris is going to take Charlie Morton. He's on deck. All right, so Scott has Cole.

No, you have Cole? Scott. Yeah, I have Cole. I already have a pitcher. I don't have a hitter yet. the hitter class is so deep, especially when you don't have to balance categories, especially when you have only nine hitter spots to fill. Trevor's story hasn't gone yet, and normally we've seen him go by this point. Trey Turner is also out there. We're used to seeing a last to round three and points leagues.

I don't think any of us are in support of that idea, but we're used to seeing it. Chris is up next here at the turn, and there are two short stops out there. Now, Chris, Chris is, you know, he'll throw you a curveball sometimes. He'll fill his utility spot with a shortstop early. I've seen him do it before, so he could go Story and Turner.

No way. Right here. No chance. I'm going to assume he doesn't. I don't see a big enough difference between Story and Turner to lock up one right now. I'm going to take Patrick Corbyn, who I actually like more than Lucas G. And I have two pitchers here to begin my draft. If Chris had gone with two short stops and had three hitters with his first three picks and a point,

League, I think that would have been a big mistake. Not to mention, I still think Jose Ramirez and J.D. Martinez are just better hitters than Trevor Story and Trey Turner. Yeah, Jose Ramirez is the guy I'm taking here. The question is which pitcher am I taking? And if I'm taking a pitcher at all. You're taking Morton. Come on. You have Yelich.

You have Yelich and Jose Ramirez. And this is a great spot to get Jose Ramirez. To get Jose Ramirez at 24th overall, I, again, like, sometimes we talk about these guys who get our high volume steals players for stolen bases. We talk about them more so for Roto. But in a points league, Jose Ramirez does not strike out, solid plate discipline,

he's going to hit a lot of homers, he's going to hit doubles. And again, he was the top scoring hitter in 2018. This is a great spot to get him, Chris. Yeah, he was the top scoring hitter in 2018. He was almost a 600 point hitter in 2017. Last year was obviously not great.

but yeah, it actually wasn't really a question for me. I'm still trying to figure out what. And like the thing that I'm worried about with Charlie Martin is that there has been some talk of him not being fully stretched out to start the season. Yeah, don't take him, Chris. On the other hand, I don't. Chris, you have eight seconds.

I know. Six, five, four, three, two, one. Oh, JD, three hitters to start his draft. J.D. Martinez, Christian, and two outfielders. J.D. Martinez, Christian,

knowledge, is Jose Ramirez. And a third basement. You've got the deepest positions. Yep. You know, get great players. By the way, would you guys take Freddie Freeman or Jose Ramirez, J.D. Martinez? I would take Jose Ramirez over both.

Oh, Freddie Freeman's going to be further down than this, for me. You went late in round two here. I think the latest we've seen him go on our mocks is mid-round three. I'm not sure that's low enough for me at this point. It could still be weeks before he turns in to positive tests. He might be ready for opening day. It could be that too.

Right, but that's the frustrating part of that. That's not up to him. You don't know. To the coaching staff. All right, but he's obviously feeling better. He has to test positive twice. I mean, negative twice. I get that.

Negative. Yeah, it's test negative twice. He has to have a positive test in terms of it would be good. Yeah, the results. Right. Right. The Michael Scott thing going on there. Yeah, no, like, that's, like, it's frustrating because I know he could, we could hear two days from now.

He's on his way back. He's going to be ready for your opening day. But it's also possible he misses all of, like all of August. Probably not that much. It's probably, it's possible he misses like the first three weeks of the season. Like, in other words, a third of the season. And that's, like, you can't invest a second round pick in that. You're passing up another second round player for him.

It'd be one thing if, you know, you were just dropping Freddie Freeman, but you're passing up somebody about as good as Freddie Freeman. All right, but what if it's Zander Bogart's, Raphael Devers? Yeah, those are studs. Those are studs. Give me the stud who I know is going to be there from day one. Okay. Frankie stamps took Charlie Moore.

Nice, nice work there, Frank. I got to stop hosting, sorry. I ended up going with Trevor Story over Trey Turner. I hate that Chris didn't make that decision for me, because Trey Turner was actually better on a per game basis in this format last year, but I went with Story. I feel like there's a little less variance in his outcomes. Yeah, and again, given the way that starting pitchers are flying off the board,

the reason why I took Lucas G. Leto, I told you guys, I won at least two of my top 20 starting pitchers, especially in a points league. And I don't know that one of those players would have been available at my next pick at the end of round four. So I start off with Mookie Betts. I take J. Lito in round two, and then I take Charlie Morton in round three. Scott, what do you think about that report regarding Charlie Morton?

His first start, he might only go four to five innings. Does that worry you at all for, you know, in terms of drafting him in this range? I think he'll be ready to go more, and the raise just might not let him out of an abundance of caution, is my understanding of that situation, which is a little different than what we're talking about with like Jesus Lazzardo you know I mean pitchers

don't go six innings every time that's a that's a normal thing it doesn't change things that much for me

if we're talking about just one start maybe this will happen for Charlie Morton it doesn't change it that much I I probably should have taken

Charlie Morton um hey I told you not to and you listen it's just it's the my thought process was, one, if you're in a draft where pitchers are going this early, you can either

try to take the pitchers early and, you know, pay too much for them or, you know, like Jose Ramirez and Christian Eilich could be two best hitters in fantasy this year. And it really, nobody would blink an eye. And J.D. Martinez could be a top five hitter. And again, nobody would blink an eye. And so partially it's just if if there's value there, take it. And also, you know, the history has shown that outside of the very, very top tier of starting pitcher, value starts to run out really quickly. And in this case, I think the top tier is probably 15 pitchers deep, but there's a lot of question marks in that group of 15.

You know, you have someone like Zach Ranky who I have questions about how valuable he's going to be in a shortened season. He was a first rounder here. Yeah, although I think in head-to-head points, there's actually, there's a better case for him than in Roto, where he kind of needs to compile over the course of a season to really compete with the elites. But, you know, you look at Gialito, like he's done it once. And really, he did it for like five months.

Shane Bieber has some of the worst quality of context stats of any pitcher in baseball. And so I think I just kind of psyched myself out and I should have taken Morton because I do think he should be a top 10 pitcher this year. Yeah. Did you know Walker Bueller's never finished ahead of him in fantasy? Do you know Jack Flaherty's never done it either? That makes sense.

But like I actually don't think pitchers are flying off. There's only been 15 pitchers taken. We're on pick 35. Well, yeah, it was 10 of the first 19. Yeah. unusual. It's kind of normalized now where the players who should be available late in round three basically are, but it took kind of a counter run of hitters here in round three. Yeah, I mean, seeing Granky and Clevenger go first round in any draft is always going to be a bit

of a shock. After I took Charlie Morton, we saw Catelle-Marté, Zander Bogart's, Trey Turner, so a run of hitters there, Luis Castillo, then Clayton Curshaw, and then Adam was on the clock. point, Adam, you had Alex Breggman and you had Jack Flaherty. So walk us through the mind of the Azer. What were you thinking here with your third round pick? Well, I'm definitely going to take a picture with my next pick. No, I don't do that. I was going to take Luis Castillo. Right now, I'm looking at Aaron Nola, U. Darvish, Blake Snell, Chris Paddock, Tyler Glassnow is the five guys I consider. I like Castillo better than all of them, so I probably would have taken him, but he went two picks before me. So then I was between Raphael Devers and, you know,

and Bryce Harper. I took Bryce Harper because I already have Breggman, who I could play at third base. So that would have locked up third base and shortstop for me, the two positions that are going to have really great players later on and probably would have meant I wasn't going to have any chance of drafting Carlos Correa.

So I went with Bryce Harper. That gives me Flaherty, Harper, and Bregman. I'll soon have a pitcher. I'm really interested to see what William Knight does here because he did something that is such a no-no for me. He's got the 12th pick, and he took Acuna and Soto. And, you know, normally that's a no-no.

I would never take two outfielders with my first two picks in a points league. And I almost certainly would have taken a starting pitcher there if I were him in the first round. But Acuna and Soto are usually gone before picks 12 and 13. And so maybe he, you know, was brilliant. Did he make his picks yet? Well, he timed out. Oh, damn it. And he got two more outfielders.

Oh, okay. Well, we got to figure out. All right, we're going to, we might let him redo here if he, if he, if he speaks up quickly enough. Because now he has four outfielders with his first four pick. That's sub-opped. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. But, but, but, you know.

Oh, but he's saying he wanted a different outfielder. All right. Well, let's, let's figure out what he wants. But I just talking about his team, that's the most interesting one right now. There's also, I just want to, I'm going to kind of try to, you know, I've always hosted these and I've never had the opportunity to look at other teams. I know Frank's got a lot on his mind. right now. But one team I really like is Verlander, Rendon, and Bogarts. That's just three players that are great in this format. That's Tyler Wilson, great team for him. And let's see. Okay, so he just

made no way. Those are his real picks. Okay. Max Kepler and J.T. Rayamuto, and this is a lesson here. There is a chance he would not have gotten J.T. Rayal Muto at the end of round five. I actually don't have any problem with right. But Max Kepler, you can like him. And he can justify your pick. Maybe we're all too low on Max Kepler. There is no chance Max Kepler would have been driving. A very, very small chance Kepler would not have been available. No, zero chance. In two rounds,

probably in four rounds. So that's what we call a reach. Don't do that. Perfectly stated by the way, because Kepler averaged 3.55 fantasy points per game in this format. That's actually better than Bryce Harper, Austin Meadows. Like, he was great last year.

He's got good strikeout rate. Yeah, he's great for this format. It's possible. We're all underestimating him. But because we're all underestimating him, you know, you don't have to invest your third pick. I just hated the last pick by the way. And that's the thing about picking, you know, at the end of a draft, you know, like I am and Scott is one spot away. You're going to have to reach or you're going to have to just really, you're going to have to ignore rankings in ADP and go get the guys you want because there's a good chance that those guys aren't going to be there the next time you're picking.

And so that is, like, I understand the thought process if he wanted Max Kepler, but. No, I don't at all. No, no, no, like the thought process. No, it's bad thought process. But it's not a good pick. How am I supposed to take a starting picture right now? I said I have to take a starting pitcher. Raphael Devers is still on the freaking bore.

And you don't like Devers, but in the fourth round, Adam. So it's Devers or Paddock for me. You've got to take the value that comes your way. Yeah, but if I don't take... Frank, Paddock's not going to make it to you. Don't worry about it. If I don't take Paddock, I'm not going to have a good rotation, I don't think. The pitching run has slowed down.

I'm pleasantly... I wouldn't say surprise, but I'm pleased by that. And George Springer is still on the board. Yeah. Now, that's... And Charlie Blackmun is still on the board. Versus George Springer, considering, you know, I gave you the 3.55 points per game for Kepler last year.

It was 4.11 for Springer. Springer per game in this format among all hitters was actually sixth behind Yelich, Trout, Rendon, Bregman, and Bellinger. And Scott, Adam is struggling. For the Astros. The plate appearances alone make him a super safe player as long as he stays healthy. I had to take him. I had to take George Springer.

That gives me two outfielders to my first four picks, which I would typically not do. It gives me one pitcher with my first four picks. But I'm sorry, my hitters are Bregman, Harper, and Springer. I just, I probably should have gone Breggman. and Springer Harper, to be quite honest. I'm going to be a little weak at pitching, but I just couldn't pass it up. I had a change on the fly there.

All right, so let's see what else happened. Catch everyone up. We saw Jose Burrios go at the end of round three. We mentioned that the Kepler and Rio Muto picks were made, and then Starling Marte, Pete Alonzo, with the third pick of the fourth round, and then Adam took George Springer. So again, Adams team,

Bregman, Harper, Springer, and Jack Flerty, through four rounds. Didn't like the Starling Marte pick. Taking him over George Springer, even Charlie Blackburn, even though I know his status is iffy. He'll be okay. It's a big mistake in this format, Starling Marte.

Adam, would you like a fun fact, though? Sure. He outscored Piedelonzo on a per game basis last season. Yeah, I don't buy that he's as good of a hitter as he was last year. You know, just the power was too good. But it was his best points league season. Yeah, ever. The move to Arizona could mitigate a lot of that because Pittsburgh is a tough place to hit.

Arizona is a pretty neutral. I think it still kind of leans a little hitter heavy, but it's pretty much in the middle. But you wouldn't take him here. I don't. You wouldn't take over Springer and Blackman. I know that. No, probably not. Although Blackman, I don't think, was particularly close to Mart 10 points per game last year.

Scott, if you have that in front of you. Man, just throw ADP out the window in this draft because Blake Snell and Devers go after Springer, as well as Charlie Blackman. And then Nick Castellanos goes in the fourth round, pick 44. Scott, this is the earliest I've seen Castellanos go. I mean, this is somebody listening to our podcast and I was saying I think he could return the value of a second round hitter, J.D. Martinez, whatever. You know, I think I think production-wise, it could end up fine, obviously, because I'm saying I think he could be J.D. Martinez. this year. It's aggressive. It's aggressive. I took him in round seven in a mock draft earlier this week and kind of had a sickly feeling when I did it because it's like, you know, I don't usually

see him go this high. Am I being a little too overconfident here taking him in round seven? So then to see him go in round four like this, I get it. Obviously, I'm very excited about Nick Castellanos. I have a hard time justifying it with what's left out there in round four. Hey, what do you think about Matt Emerson's team? Cody Bellinger, Nolan Aeronado, Trey Turner, and Charlie Blackman, and no pitchers. Those are fantastic hitters. He took great hitters. So, you know, he didn't use a pick on Max Kepler.

But Joe Musgrove might be his SP one, so I don't, you know. No, look, he's going to get Darvish or Glass Now, or. Woodrow for somebody. He's not going to get Darvish. Chris, Chris does not have a picture yet. He's definitely not going to take Glass now because I'm taking it. Yeah, that's the reason why. And I was really, really hoping that Scott would follow his own rankings and take you Darvish

and not Tyler Glass. I just moved. Because I like Tyler Glass Now a lot more in this format. I just moved you Darvish Head of Glass Now this morning. Thank you for doing that. It was a great decision for you. I'm really happy for you, Scott, that you got. the guy you like.

Let's see if we have a little pitcher run here. You guys just went, Paddock, Paddock to Frank, Darvish to Scott, and Glassnow to Chris. So how many? There's the pictures you guys have. I have one, Tyler Glassnow. I have three. There is a big drop-off at starting pitcher now, though.

Yes, yes. As I've mentioned... I disagree to quote Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems. I disagree. Okay, G, KG, I disagree. Okay, G. Why do you disagree, Scott? Because I think there's one more.

I don't want to say it, though, because Chris is on the clock here and only has one starting pitcher. I'm looking at your rankings. I know who you're referring to because he's the top pitcher left on your... Okay, it's Sunny Gray. Let's see if Chris likes Sunny Gray as much as I do. He talks a big game like he does like Sunny Gray. Yeah? Frank, set it up.

Let's give everybody Chris's team and Scott's team. All right, so we are at the four-five turn. Chris has three seconds to make a pick. And he does. He just did that for the content. He does take Sunny Gray. So Chris's team, he took Christian Yelich first overall. Then at the two-three turn, he passed on Charlie Morton.

Kind of regretted it, but he wound up with three great hitters to start, Jose Ramirez and J.D. Martinez. And now here at the four or five turn, he winds up taking Tyler Glass now and Sunny Gray. And then for Scott, second overall, he took Garrett Cole. The second round he took Patrick Corbyn, which I'm sure Chris did not enjoy. Your first hitter was Trevor Storing the third round, Scott. And then you came back now with U. Darvish in the fourth.

Where does Scott White go now in the fifth round? One hitter so far. He is pondering and shaking his head. I got a problem here because my top two hitters are Jordan Alvarez, Fernando Tatis. I'm fine with the value here, especially for Alvarez, but he's got an IL situation, mysterious one going on. Tatis would fill my utility spot because my only other hitter is a shot. shortstop.

Just not sure I want to do that. Yeah, two short stops to start here as your first two hitters, Scott. I don't know if that's where you want to go. No. Chris, right before you took Glass Now and Gray, Scott took you Darvish. Who do you like better, gray or Darvish? Probably Darvish. I think you probably have to.

So how much better would you have felt about your team if you had Darvish and Glass Thou instead of Gray and Glassnow? maybe three quarters of a point per week. Okay. I would have felt a lot better. You took a gamble, obviously, waiting for two pitchers with your 48th and 49th picks. I'm not sure how you can feel a lot better about you Darvish than Sunny Gray.

Like both were good last year. Sunny Gray both, you know, really especially finished the season strong. Sunny Gray outscored U. Darvish. I had decent margin. I mean, you're talking about 15%. And it's not like, like, I know Sunny Gray has been frustrating and doesn't have a good track record. Like, look at you Darvish's track record. It's pretty bad.

He's had two good seasons in five years. And so, look, you know, that whole group of pitchers, it's just like, there are cases for it against all of them and everybody's just going to come out with the guys that they like. and for some reason I'm just still willing to overlook Darvish's deficiencies and I just like him. Well, I mean, Darvish was considered a part of the fantasy ace class for a long time before he ran into trouble after signing with the Cubs. Well, so it's it's, but he shouldn't have been, right? Well, his strikeout, his strikeout rate has always been off the charts. Right, but in terms of, no, I don't, I don't buy a lot of that you, Darvish was overrated with the Rangers. Well, no, but, like, no, he wasn't overrated with the Rangers.

He had 413 points one year, 515 the next. So you're talking about his half season with the dollars? 325 and 22 starts. So that would have been on pace for 480, close to 500. So, you know, he was really good there. That was the full season with the Dodgers. The problem is he hasn't, his best season in the last five is 428 points. Yeah.

that is pretty, it's not replaceable. Yeah. But it's not, it's not impressive. So you're talking about injury concerns, performance concerns. Uh, I, you don't wish, I think in the Chris Archer way, was a little overrated the last couple of seasons. I, I think, I think he and gray are close, obviously. That's why I put him two spots apart in my rankings.

Um, and you know, I was so disappointed. you took Sunny Gray there, and so undecided about which hitter I should take in response that I ended up going with Trevor Bauer in round five. I only, like, this is the first time I've ever taken Trevor Bauer. I hate it. Well, you know, Scott doesn't listen to me, so there you go. I only would have done it in a points league because points league is what really rewards volume for pitchers. And we know Trevor Bauer is going to be a high volume pitcher, even if he's not very good, even if he was like, he's like four or even a four. 425 ERA.

I think he'll be somebody I'm not taking out of my lineup. And I wasn't sure how, you know, the next, what, 20 picks we're going to go with starting pitchers. You know, we've seen a few of them go off the board since then. And it's still looking pretty good starting pitcher. But I'm going to go pretty aggressive after hitters from this point forward. Chris, Scott has this one hitter through five rounds. Again, that is Trevor's story.

I may or may not have told him not to. take Fernando Tatis because I wanted him for myself. So I get Fernando Tatis with the third pick of round five. I have two hitters. I have Tatis and Betts to go along with Charlie Morton, Lucas Gilito, and Chris Paddock. By the way, since I'm known as the for calling Tatis a bust, I absolutely would have taken Tatis there if I didn't already have a shortstop. I didn't want to use my utility spot that way this early. Makes sense. Like Fernando Tatis is a bust when he's going off the board at 18th overall. Right. when he's going off the board 50th,

there's a lot more to like about it. Absolutely. Give me that every day of the week, twice on Sunday. Then we saw Chris Bryant go off the board. Josh Hater in the fifth round. Bad pick. That was the one.

This is what we talk about. And we did the bus show yesterday, and Scott and I said, specifically in a points league, you don't want to take Josh Hater in the fifth round. He was these top scoring relief pitcher last year. He had just 27 more fantasy points than Will Smith. I mean,

closers in this four. you don't want to over, overpay for. Yeah, go ahead and read the rest of the round. I want to just make a comment about something as well. After Josh Hater, we saw Mike Soroka, Nelson Cruz, always a great value, even at 55. Glaber Torres also, I mean, I like it there. I'm glad he went there because if I had to take another freaking hitter, I would have been so mad, but if Torres were on the board, I probably would have had to do it.

Adam wound up taking James Paxton, surprise, surprise. Then we saw Aaron Judge, Anthony Rizzo, Marcus Semyon, and DJ Lambert. Mayhew. So I believe William Knight, who is one of our listeners, does not have a hitter through his first six picks. A pitcher or hitter? I mean, he does not have a pitcher. That is, apologies.

He does not have a pitcher through his first six picks. He has J.C. Real Muto, DJ LaMahue, Marcus Semyon, Max Kepler, Ronald Acuna, and Juan Soto. I mean, outside of Kepler, they're great hitters. It's pretty awesome. I wouldn't do it. It'll be interesting to see what his pitching staff looks like at the end. But I mean, we know where I stand with starting pitchers this year, where I just, if you don't give yourself a trustworthy base there, assuming the environment with all the home runs is the same as it was last year.

You just don't have a chance. It doesn't matter how good you're hitting is. Frank, I was going to say for the first four rounds, I did not even look at positions. I just sorted by utility rankings to see the best. best hitters because in this format, I just don't care that much. Once we got to the fifth round, I did start paying a little bit more attention to it, specifically at first and second base. And, you know, Josh Bell is the second ranked first baseman left for you and best for Scott.

Ozzie Albiz is 64th overall. Feels to me like just an incredible value for a guy that's been so good at such a young age, it might be like Labor Tourism. He might just be awesome. Yeah, I almost took him as to the Bauer. But I have two pitchers and one of them is James Paxton. So it's like, this is what sucks. You know, I have Flaherty, I have Paxton.

And I'm trying to decide between Ozzie Albies and Frankie Montas. And I think Albies deserves to go ahead of Frankie Montas. But, you know, I have the third pick, the fourth pick of this round. I'm not going again for like basically a round and a half. It's so hard to pass up a player that's just better to get pitching depth. But I think I have to do it. I think I have to go with Montas. So, Adam, let me ask you, do you, do you, do you,

regret taking George Springer over Chris Paddock when you did because at some point you have to make this decision. You have to make the decision, do I take the pitcher just because I have to fill out my pitcher spots versus taking hitters that should just not be left on the board at this point? No, because I feel so good about George Springer. I mean, I can't stress how important plate appearances are in this format, especially when you're on a good offense. And just the fact that he has a chance, I would call him probably the favorite along with Mookie Betts, to lead baseball in plate appearances. I had to take Springer in the fourth round. And look, I mean, I like Paxson more than everybody else,

but Flaherty, Paxson, Montas. You guys have sold me on Montas. You're very, you know, if you in particular, Frank. So I think it's a pretty good start. I'm not going to get Albies. He just went. I doubt I'm going to get Josh Bell, which means I'm going to be kind of weak at first and second base,

which kind of sucks. But, you know, I think I think I'll have a great outfield and hopefully a good pitching staff. and we'll see. This has been a pretty good draft. There have been a few picks, especially Hater and Kepler that stand out. It's been a good draft.

We got to talk about this offense, Matt Emerson's putting together. He finally ended Jordan Alvarez's fall at 67th overall. And I was getting ready to take him. And now he's got Cody Bellinger, Nolan Aronado, Trey Turner, Charlie Blackman, and Yordon Alvarez. That's that is.

And Mike Soroka. And Mike Sorokas is his only starting pitcher. I wouldn't have taken him as my first starting pitcher, but in this format, you know, he's efficient. He could rack up innings. It's, I mean, it's going to be really hard to compete with that offense, though, especially if your pitching has a bad week, you're done. All right, so let's see what else is happening.

Carlos Carrasco went 62nd overall. He does have the SPARP eligibility in this format. It might be a little bit early for him, though. Javier Baez went 63rd. Adam mentioned he took Frankie Montas, then we said, saw Jose Abraeu, Ozzie Albiz, Yurdan Alvarez, Kyle Hendricks in the sixth round, Zach Gallin and Brandon Woodruff. So starting to see a run of starting pitchers again. I wound up taking Brandon Woodruff just because there's no hitters that really stand out to me at this

point. And I do have Woodruff ranked inside my top 25. And to me, he was the best value left at this point. So he's my fourth starting pitcher and Scott, you were on the board. Yeah, I just wanted to comment. I think the fall was appropriate for Jordan Alvarez going from typically a fourth rounder to a sixth rounder for the same reason I was saying with Freddie Freeman. You know, we don't have, we don't know exactly what Alvarez's ailment is. Ten seconds, Scott. But we know he's on the IL for something and we know he hasn't reported to camp yet. And so it's just, it's so frustrating because obviously teams are incentivized.

Like, they're not allowed. They're not allowed to comment on a player's health status if it is related to COVID-19 unless the player explicitly tells them they could say certain things. So we're in the dark on what the timetable is for testing, if they've already had one negative test. We're in the dark on so much. And it just, it creates, it creates this mysterious timetable, completely unknowable timetable,

in the particular year where a timetable is more important. than ever because the season's going to be over so quickly. So it stinks seeing Jordan Alvarez go in the middle of round six. I hated passing him up early in round five. But I think until he's back, he's not back. And we don't know when he's coming back. Oh, uh-oh, a Chris sigh. Why you sighing Chris?

I'm trying to decide if I want to just take my guy at a significant reach because I don't think he'll come back to me. and I'm looking at Matthew Boyd's game logs and it kind of sums up the whole thing his last four starts last year he averaged 14.9 fantasy points per game which is pretty good it was 18, 18.5, 23.5

and negative 0.5 and it's like that's the whole Matthew Boyd experience right there if he can just get rid of the bad starts I'm sure everyone wants to get rid of the bad starts I think he's coming back to you I want I think so too. And I'm not to saying

that because I won him, I swear. I already have four starting pitchers. Does Chris fire us all? Chris. You are all crap. Can we back that out? That is not who I want. Chris took Austin Meadows, so that was a great pick, Chris. Should I seriously back it out? Yes, back it out. If you can. I'm trying to talk

on a podcast while making my decision. I'm sorry, you definitely had an opportunity to make a pick there. You know what? I could have taken the whole 75 seconds of Kustin-Hara pick to have walked through that. So, I'm not happy with the world right now. While you think about that, do you want to hear how Siri pronounces Frank's name?

Sure. Okay. Yeah, go ahead. Calling Frank Stam. She just gives up. She just, like, no, too many cons. And it's not doing it. I'm just going to give up.

That's funny. One of you got, someone's going to take Matthew Boyd. I'm going to be really upset about it and whatever. you are on deck Scott wrote in the chat that is that's me I gotta shut off my volume apologies

oh come on Chris Chris took Carlos Santana good pick not to leave everybody in suspense so I took Josh Bell then Chris took Kestanahara Carlos Santana so you know

we're seeing those first basement and second basements start to get depleted now Adam yeah we saw Muncie Olson and one more player in Vladimir Guerrero and I want to know when you guys think

he'll get first base eligibility well I am about to take care of Muncie here I think fill my second base spot that way and you're still there are still several second basemen in the same tier that Muncie's in but I have a feeling they're all about to go

one after another and this is like this is really Muncie's format because he's so good at walking so Adam's gonna take Muncie here with my seventh pick to answer your question Vladimir Guerrero will have first base eligibility on July 29th, because that is the sixth game of the season

for the Blue Jays. Are they not going to DH him? Yeah, I don't think he's going to play every game at first base. I think he will dh some of them, but it will be early in the season. Well, it doesn't matter because he just went. And Frank took Matt Olson. My cue is gone.

This is the price I pay for taking Frankie Montas. All the first baseman I wanted and the second baseman I wanted are gone. And you called it, Adam. You knew this was going to happen. That's all right. I can live with it. So look, I met with Maryfield.

That was another good second baseman. So one of the things about Vlad, if you're in a league where you play out this first three-day week, which you shouldn't be, but apparently that is the default, where you make it just a full week, you're saying? Well, when you just play those three days. The weekend is your week one,

and then week two starts on the first Monday. You should make the first scoring period 10 days. 10 days, yes. Yes. Unquestionably. There's no debate about it in my mind. But if you don't, the earliest Vladimir Guerrera could be in your first base spot would be week three. And that's assuming that among those first, I think it's eight games in the first two weeks at the Blue Jays play or nine games in the first 10 days,

that's assuming that he does play five games at first base. If he doesn't, you're looking at week four, which is, you know, now you're a third of the way through the season already. Yeah, right. Well, I'm not going to play in any stupid leagues like that. I disagree with you guys on that. I don't know if this is the time to have that discussion, but in a season when you're limited in your scoring periods, why would you remove the opportunity for an additional score?

Oh, because like, it's just so unfair. Three days is nothing. It's nothing. And it could be one team something. It is not unusual to have a scoring period of that length. It is very unusual. I'm glad it happens after every all-star break. No, it doesn't.

It doesn't do that anymore. No, it doesn't. If your commissioner is smart. No, the default, the default option in CBS Sports League is to combine the two weeks after the All-Star break. When did that happen? Two years ago, I believe. We were like, okay, stop listening to that Sky White guy. I don't think that.

I don't know that I believe you, Adam, right now. I swear to, I swear. I swear. I think this is fake news. No, no. Chris would know. All right, so after I took Matt Olson. I'm editorial, baby.

Yeah, I just, I go to you for every CBS question. All right, Frank. Go ahead. Bye, back. After I took, it's all good. After I took Matt Olson, we saw Vladimir Guerrero go off the board. Corey Kluber, Whitmerfield, Gary Sanchez, second catcher off the board there at Pick 79. Madison Bumgarner.

Freddie Freeman's back, by the way. Freddie Freeman is back. Okay, so insert him back at the top of the second round, early to mid-second round. As a Braves fan, I'm very happy about this. As somebody who just has spent hours updating his rankings, after holding out moving Freddie Freeman down forever. Adam, you wound up taking Carlos Correa at Pick 81. Got to put your money where your mouth is.

I know you're a big Correa fan. You now have three Astros on your team. Does that affect your decision-making whatsoever? I kind of feel like they're going to hit one, two, three in the order. Or they certainly could, right? I have Springer, Bregman, and Correa. No, it doesn't. I think it's a great thing.

I think it's a great thing to have three Astros. You should not have three Marlins in your lineup. No, probably not. Or Oreos. Yeah, three Orioles in your lineup would be bad. My team is really going to be an exercise of forgetting about position scarcity. So I just, I've got third base shortstop and two outfielders so far. And quite frankly, I am 100% fine with that in a 12 team points league.

You know, the waiver wire is going to have plenty. Yeah. So I support the best player available. My intent, by the way, is to get Kent to Maida with my next pick to get an RP, who my opinion on RP on Sparps is that you might find later in the draft that the true relievers are the best values available. And if that's the case and you already have a Spark, a starting pitcher is eligible as a reliever, just use him as a starting pitcher. You know, I think like if you believe enough in Maeda to take him now as a starter, and I do. He's third in Scott's rankings and he's third in Frank's rankings.

then, you know, it's a great pick because you shouldn't be afraid to move these guys back to the rotation if you get a good closer later. Yeah, and, you know, I've become bearish on Sparps as a population this season, but that's more because I'm just worried

about how much they're going to actually pitch and whether they're going to have the opportunity for wins and quality starts relative to closers who will just get saves like normal, presumably. But I think Kent and Maida and maybe Carlos Carrasco are the exceptions, or the obvious exceptions to that at least.

Chris. If Nick Fox wants to make an enemy, he'll take Kentomai to right now. I will track him down and we'll have a confrontation. You're mentioning the- William Nights just made Liam Hendrix the second closer off the board in this draft. How does that make you feel?

He took Hendrix and Ozuna back to back. Those are his first two pitchers. Those are his first two pitchers. Look, here's the thing. I would presume it usually takes about 60 games for one of those A's closers to lose their jobs. And so maybe he does become the first A's closer to lead the team in saves in consecutive seasons

since Grant Balfour in 2012 or whatever it was. Like, if Leon Hendricks is as good as he was last year, he's going to be maybe the best closer in baseball. It's just I... Go ahead. I'm sorry. I was going to say Frank read his team. I thought you were done. My bad. No, no, that's... Frank, read his team. It's insane.

All right. William Knight. He has J.T. Real Mutu. He has DJ LaMayhew, Marcus Semihan, Max Kepler, Ronald de Cunia, Juan Soto, zero starting pitchers. And then Liam Hendrix and Roberto Osuna. I assume this is... It's the worst team I've ever seen. Oh, my God. Is that a hyperbolic statement, Adam? Or is it actual? I've never seen anybody go eight rounds without a starting pitcher at a points league.

Yeah. I don't know. Two relievers? I'm certain I've done that in a mock draft. Scott's cell phone, by the way, has also got eight rounds without starting picture. Yeah, I think probably 10 years ago I might have gone eight rounds in a points league without drafting a starting pitcher. You know, his approach might actually be justifiable in like a head-to-head categories league, getting two top closers.

That makes sense. A bunch of good hitters. Maybe he thinks it's a head-to-head categories league. I think he might not know the format because I would. I would wonder that except he took Max Kepler in round three, and that would be even harder to justify in that format. But look what he just said in the chat. I said, what's your strategy?

He said, middle relief wins, hopefully. So I think he might not know the format. Okay, we're all fired. I'm sorry. We're all fired. That's what I get for listening to you clowns. Oh, those who don't know anything. And I don't know why I listen to this podcast.

You guys are wrong about everything. how do you keep your jobs Matthew Boyd is God I bet I could do your job better unbelievable Of all the dramatic things I've ever seen Of all the dramatic things Chris misses out on Matthew Boyd

So let's catch people up Adam you took Kent to Maeda So you got your spark there You can use him as a starting pitcher as well If you want to do that Kenley Jansen goes And we saw Matthew Boyd, I'm sorry Chris Heungenjin Ryu

Sean Mania, so some more pitchers starting to come off the board. And then Adelberto Mondesie, pick 93. And again, that's the biggest difference for some of these high-volume steals players, where Mondesie in a Roto League is typically a fourth round pick. And here in a points league, he is going in round eight at pick 93. I don't even know that he should be drafted in a points league. That seems little. I'm serious.

Like, I take Corey Seeger over him, Machado. Chato, Bichette, V.R. and Seeger are all on the board. I definitely take all four of them over Monashie. I think Monashy, like, if he's really good and stealing a ton of bases, he's probably going to be fine in a points league. But if he's not basically his best self, I think he's, his play discipline is so bad that he probably won't be that good. He probably won't be worth using in this war. It's entirely possible that Adirbo Alberto Monashy puts up a 270 on base percentage. Like, that's not even, like, the worst case scenario for him. A 270 on base percentage for Adoprata Monashie,

I believe if you just took his walk rate and his expected batting average last season, he wouldn't have been far from that. All right, guys, so I had to make the brand pick here, hashtag brand. And I take Manny Machado in the eighth round. I know that, Scott, you have him as a bust. Chris doesn't like him either. I don't think anyone on this podcast likes him outside of me. but to get him 94th overall,

it seems very late for Manny Machado. I think it's a good pick. I prefer him to Monashie. It's strange what's happening with starting pitcher at this round because I genuinely am surprised to see Matthew Boyd go here. Sean Manaya

just win a couple of picks later. There was Ryu and then Manaya. Kinta Maeda went to Adam. That makes more sense. I like Maeda this year and obviously you can use him a relief pitcher. Lance Lynn is still out there, though. So I'm going to take Lance Lynn as my fifth starter.

And I mean, Sean Manai is really the one that raises an eyebrow for me, even more so than Boyd. I'm not there. Obviously, there's a case for it. He was dominant in, what, five starts down the stretch last season. But, you know, the track record doesn't support what he did then. And I don't know, it's a big leap to make, considering you've got what the fourth place, I saw young guy in the AL still out there in Lance Lynn. And I guess, you know, he can point to Lance Lynn's track record too, I know.

But you're talking about the difference between a full season and five starts of dominance. This is why you're going to go. Oh, sorry, Frank. I just want to throw out like there are four-ish, five players or so that to me are like, ooh, I really hope they're available. I consider Austin Meadows here. Ehio Haneo Suarez, Jeff McNeil, um, John Carlos Stanton.

I would save those three because we're at pick 96, okay? So E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. Hanyos-Wares, Jeff McNeil and John Carlos Stanton, and then however you feel about Austin Meadows, are three guys that are three hitters that I just feel like really need to be drafted soon. We are at the 8-9 turn.

This is why you need to watch us on our fantasy baseball to the YouTube channel because Chris is struggling. He's got his hand in his face, face in his hand. he just took Rich Hill, 96 overall, and Chris, you don't seem very excited about it. That feels like a reach. Reach Hill. Chris has been.

Richel's really good. All he has to do is stay healthy for 60 games, but he's gotten like kind of, I think he's gotten like a little bit worse. So here's the problem. He's super old. He really hasn't. Rich Hill is an incredible pitcher, and if he stays healthy for 60 games, there is no doubt in my mind, and there shouldn't be doubt.

in any of your minds that he will be a top 20 starting pitcher at the very least. I think obviously the health concerns are very real. But when I look at the rest of the starting pitchers, Max Freed wasn't that good in this format last year.

He scored 415 points in this format in 30 starts and that was with 17 wins. If you're not getting 400, like that's, he probably should have won 14 or 14. He's a rookie. Like, but, he wasn't. a rookie. Well, basically. Max Fried? I mean, it was he had he he, he, this was his third time being in

the major leagues. He had not pitched well enough to, uh, all right, but, but he broke out. Like, you know, he's 15 years younger. I don't even know. Is he 15 years younger than Richel? Is he more than that? Like, uh, probably about right. I think Max Fried's like 20, no, he's 26. So yeah, probably 14 years. Do you really not have more performance concerns about Max Fried than Rich Hill? No. I think Rich Hill probably is a better picture. In my eyes, there's not even a question.

And so it comes down to health. And Max Fried has certainly had problems staying healthy in his minor league career. I think that was partially why the San Diego Padres sort of gave up on him. He has real control issues. And if that regresses last year or this year, you know, he could be an outright bad pitcher for as much as he is a breakout candidate. And you're like, Hulia Reyes probably not going to go six innings very regularly. Zach Wheeler, obviously, we're not sure when he's going to be, you know, around to make starts. And Nelson LeMet, I just, I don't think he's what people think he is at work.

Like, it's just, you know what, Chris. Rich Hill is the only guy that I feel has a. chance of being a top 20 starting pitch. You made a good pick. You know what? I think you're 100% right. I don't love my Carlos Martinez pick. I actually like that one more. I would like it a lot more if they thought he was going to be the closer.

That's still an open debate, right? The last like 24 hours of all indications have been that he's going to be a starter. Yeah, that's a good thing. I don't think so. Well, certainly for this format, it's a good thing. If he's going to be the closer, you're not taking him a hundredth overall. or whatever. That's too early for... He was a great starter for several years for the Cardinals,

and now he has a relief pitcher eligibility. Yeah, that's a great pick. He was a great closer last year, too. Yeah, but it's too early for a closer. Like, I don't know. I agree. I think you want him to be a starter, Chris. At least... I think the best version of Carlos Martinez as a starter is incredibly valuable in this format.

But the fact that he has not been able to stay healthy for two straight years as a starter and has basically only been able to stay healthy as a reliever. I am skeptical. Oh, that's not fair. He had a good three-year run as a starter, didn't it? No, no, I said the last two years.

And it was really just one injury coming back from the injury last year. They said, we don't want to take any chances with you. You know, we're not confident at the state you are physically to let you start. That was the storyline last year. I mean, I still think it's a question. They have a lot of bullpen shortages right now. I'm not totally back on board as ranking Carlos Martinez as a starter. Do you guys think that the best catchers in baseball, like Rayamuto, Grandal, maybe Sanchez,

he's such a bad defensive catcher? Do you think they will play more than they normally do, considering the season is shorter? Yeah, I think Rayamuto for sure is I think he might be, he might get 10 appearances at DH. given how good he is. I'm having trouble passing up Grandal here in round nine. Because I think Grandal might, he might even do it sometimes. They just made the decision for you.

Well, guess what, Adam? Before you went. All right. My problem with Grundal is volume is such a key part of his appeal. You know, he played 153 games last year. But 16 of his starts came at first base. He's not going to start at first base for the White Sox. and maybe he plays DH, but

probably not. Something bad would have had to have happened to Edwin and Carnacia. Yeah, I agree with that. Let's catch you up. We are here in round nine. Let's see what else is going on here. So, Scott, you took Austin Meadows finally ending his slide. That's the ninth round.

And of course, we had the news last night that he tested positive for COVID. So I have to pay attention to what the timeline is there. You guys were having the Rich Hill versus Max Fried debate. I took Max Fried. I am on record. He's a breakout candidate for me. He's my SP5. So look, if it doesn't work out, I could drop him.

I could pick someone else up. I thought about him as my sixth starter instead of Meadows. Like that Meadows pick was partially driven by. There were way too many good hitters still. How do I decide between these guys? Right. And I guess we found my breaking point for a COVID-positive case, which is a four or five round drop here for me.

Meadows. I took him over Salare. I considered catcher too like Adam was talking about. It ended up going with Meadows. Julio Arias went 100th overall. Again, he has SPARP eligibility. Dustin May, this is an interesting one. I guess there's a chance he can be used in a piggyback role to start the season. He does have SPARP eligibility. And Tyler Wilson, thus far, has filled out his two relief pitchers. He took Josh Hater and the fifth. He just took Dustin May now in the ninth round. And he also has Verlander, Kluber, Mani. and Kyle Hendricks.

So we don't talk about Dustin May as a spark, but should we be? No. Okay. Not in a short season. Like, if this was a full-length season, I would have a little more faith that at some point along the way, he's just going to be a full-time starter for the Dodgers. But, like, they seem really committed to wood and stripling, surprisingly committed. So I'm not sure if that opportunity for May is going to develop fast enough.

certainly not to take him more than halfway through a draft like this. So I'm pretty sure that William Knight is drafting for a different format. Oh. I would tend to agree with you because he just took Yanni Chorinos and Ryan Yarbrough as his first two. Yossiel Pueg has tested positive for COVID and is still a free agent. I don't know if that means the Braves have backed off or that is what John Heyman just tweeted. Yeah. I assume if it was a one-year deal, if that were to come about,

that they would back off like that. Yeah, so that, uh, we'll get, we'll get confirmation on that soon enough, I'm sure. That's not great. Really changes his value again.

Hey, Chris, remember that time that we, uh, we recorded, uh, you know, some breaking news about Yassale Pweets of the Braves and now, now it means nothing.

That was fun. Oh, but it's just so sad to seeing everybody test positive. It is. It. And these things were going to happen and we, we talked about it and mentioned it's, you know,

it's, something weird to talk about, but it is going to happen throughout the course of this entire season. So that's the latest on Yassio Pue. Adam, why don't you catch us up on what's going on with your team? You're on the clock now in the 10th round.

You took Jeff McNeil with your ninth round pick. So I only have, I have Flaherty, Paxton, Montas, and Maeda. I really want to take the NL. Siam Award winner Robbie Ray. But there is just no way.

112th overall, I have to take Stanton. I'm just like... Yeah, I mean, cards on the table. It's stupid the term Carla Stanton was still out there. It made more sense, maybe for my team to take Robbie Ray, but now I'm sort of committed to putting my Ada in my rotation

and probably getting two closers at some point. That's okay. I just like, I basically have like five. I think I have the top five. I have the top four American League MVP finishers in my team. I have Bregman, Correa, Springer, and Stanton. So that's good. I have Paxton, who's going to finish probably,

third in Sy Young. Flaherty, who's probably going to win it. I have a pretty good team. He can't win it if Robbie Ray does, Adam. Flarity, you're right. You're right. He's going to finish second. My bad. So let's see if you actually get the NL.

Sy Young and Robbie Ray, see if he makes it back to you in the 11th round. So this is, even if William Knight doesn't know that it's a head-to-head points league. Oh, well, you know, he couldn't even take Stan because he has three outfielders. I'm just thinking in my head,

like, why would you ever take Yani Cherokee? Rinos or Ryan Yarbrough over John Carlos Stanton. And I don't like Stanton, but gosh, in the 10th round. That is... He went 10 picks later than Jorge Salaer. There's no justification for it. I'm sorry, I know you guys have Jorge Serala ranked higher than him. You're wrong to do that.

He should be a top 100 pick in every draft. That's insane. All right, so after you took Staten, we just saw Kirby Yates, another closer off the board, to Nelson Lament, who knows how deep he's going to go into games, which matters in a head-to-head points league. And then Michael Brantley, 115th overall,

which is a player I find myself drafting often. I think this is a fine place to wind up with Michael Brantley as your second or third outfieler. Even your first outfieler in a point league. For Michael Brantley. It just, I think he goes too late. Oh, I agree.

Across the board. And this format, especially, his plate discipline is so good. You can kind of pencil him in for that 500. point mark. All right, so I am up in two picks, and at this point, I've filled out my starting pitchers. I have Charlie Morton, Lucas Gialito, Chris Paddock, Brandon Woodruff, and Max Fried.

It's, I feel good. I feel solid about that pitching staff. I also have Matt Olson. I have Manny Machado, Fernando Tatis is my shortstop, and then Mookie Betts, and we have a pick that we likely need to back out for Tyler Wilson, Lewin Diaz. he's a prospect for the Marlins, right? I assume he meant Edwin Diaz. Right.

Is who he wanted there. So, okay, go ahead. Sorry, I didn't mean to, for an obvious mispick like that, I shouldn't have thrown things off. Go ahead. It's all good. I mean, great, great team name opportunities

for Lewand Diaz, though. Inside Luan Diaz. It's a great one. I don't get it. What is it? It's so uncultured. So what? Inside Lewin Davis.

What is that? Wow. Cohen Brothers movie. Justin Timberlake was in it. Who? Oscar Isaac was in it. Oh, I know one of those guys. I think Amy Adams was in it.

Adam, do you have the cricket? You have the cricket soundboard? I sure do. No, we're not going to do that for a Cohen Brothers movie. They're the most celebrated directors and filmmakers of the last half century. Nobody has any idea what you're talking about, Chris. 25 years. 25 years.

I don't even know where to begin to jump in. Quarter century. Kerry Mulligan, not Amy Adams. Sorry. I'm going to pick my favorite team from. Who's your favorite team, Adam? Or are you going to dabble now? I like the Freddie Freeman team a lot more now.

Yeah, that helps out. All right, so Tyler Wilson did take Edwin Diaz, and I'll let you inside the mind of me, let you know what's going on here. I was debating one of Jeff McNeil, Mike Mustakis, or Max Fried at my house. last pick. I wound up taking Max Freed, but I was worried about getting a second basement. Because I, you know, for me, after Mustakis, all right, Jonathan VR, if I get him as my starting

second basement, it's fine. But I do feel better about someone like Musacus or Jeff McNeil. McNeil went to Adam. And look, one of the best feelings of fantasy is when you're considering a player and he makes it all the way back to you at the next round of picks. That's what I'm hoping happens here. And if Alfredo Rodriguez takes Mike Moussakis here, I will lose my mind. He has 25 seconds left to make his pick.

Again, I have Matt Olson, I have Manny Machado, Fernando Tatis, and Mookiee Betts, just one outfielder through the first nine rounds. And it would be the first 10 rounds after I take Mike Mustakis. But you only need three outfielders, so let's not a lot of good outfielers left.

There's some good teams here. I don't think any of us have the best teams, by the way. I want to read teams in particular. Michael Murphy, I wish his number three starter were a little better, but his pitching staff is Shane Bieber, Luis Castillo,

the Nelson Lemette, and Matthew Boyd. So if Lamet or Boyd is good, you know, that's great. His hitters, Gary Sanchez, Ozzie Albiz,

Raphael Devers, Mike Trout, Jorge Soler, and Nelson Cruz. So his hitters are just awesome and his pitching staff. He's got two, you know,

top like 12-ish guys in Bieber and Castillo. and then Mike Choi, that's Michael Murphy. Mike Choi has Grandal, Abraeu, Glaber Torres, Francisco Lindor on the infield, does not have an outfielder yet. He has de Grom, Snell, Kershaw, and Bumgarner, and he has Kirby Yates and Kenley Janssen.

If he had maybe taken Stanton instead of Jansen or any other hitter instead of Jansen or even a starting pitcher, and he only had one closer right now, he would have my favorite team of Grundal, Abrae, Glaber, Lindor, let's say Stanton, plus Kirby Yates at Reliever, and DeGrom, Snell, Kershaw, and Bumgarner, even though we don't love Bumgarner, but still, that's a really solid team.

I just don't think you want to have two relievers this early, especially when one of them is Kenley Jansen, who's got a lot of question marks. Yeah, I think that's, I think that is fair. Scott, you are on the clock. It is round 10 here, and you, look, we talked about, I talked about Bo Bichet as a bust, but that was when

he's going in the fourth round in NFBC ADP in the month of July. And it's round 10. Yeah, yeah, this seems to happen in these head-to-head leagues with just the nine hitter spots to fill. It always seems to be a shortstop who just falls forever because, you know,

there's only so many shortstop spots to fill. I don't even have an urgent need for Bichette. I drafted Trevor Story. Remember, I passed up Fernando Tatis earlier because I didn't want to fill the utility spot that way. But now I'm fine, you filling it for Bichette at this price. And yeah, I'm good with that. All right. Chris, you're on the clock.

What's going through the mind? What are you thinking? Nothing good. Negative thoughts. Let's remind people who you have on your team here, Chris. Chris has Carlos Santana, Kesson Hiera, Jose Ramirez, Christian Yelich, J.D. Martinez. and you have Sunny Gray, Tyler Glassnow, Rich Hill as three starting pitchers, and you have Carlos Martinez

currently slotted in as a spark. This is a pretty good team. You know, when you take the full 75 seconds to make every pick, it works to your advantage. I thought Chris was the best multi-tasker. Oh, you son of a. Oh, Chris.

That's why he shot you that look. Yeah, there you go, Adam. Did you see the trade offer I made to you? I saw something about it, but I wasn't in the right mindset to deal with an Azer offer. I, you know, I looked at a Roto League and I said, I'm going to try to make a Robbie Ray offer. Let's see the guy who I'm going to try to rip off.

Of course, Chris has Robbie Ray. So I offered him Luke Weaver for Robbie Ray. Yeah, that's who? Ridicrous. Luke Weaver. It's not ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Wait, who?

Luke Weaver is four pitchers later on Scott's rankings. Did we say why you read Chris reacted? You reacted that way to Chris's pick? Did we actually I took Robbie Ray? I took Robbie Ray Okay Yeah

People can't actually see And I don't love that I didn't love it I took Robbie Ray and Corey Seeger there I'm not thrilled about it I'm not thrilled about how this draft Is gone

I'm not happy with myself I'm not happy with any one of you The listeners are still great In my book But one of the listeners Took Matthew Boyd It wasn't us who took him Right but

That is just one There are hundreds of other listeners why does nobody like Zach Wheeler by the way he may not pitch this year like he's still not sure if he's going to return after he goes on

after his wife gives birth right yeah I don't he said he said he was unsure when he first showed up I just think it's more he could miss his first two turns because of the birth less more than were that word at least for me I'm not that word

about him sitting out the whole thing. I almost took him here. Okay. And Scott, you wound up taking Yuan Moncada. So let us and give us some insight. Why did you wind up with Yuan Makata there? Well, I needed a third baseman and he was the last of his tier at third base. I think the only other starter I'd be satisfied with at this position in this format is Miguel Sanoe, probably. So Yohan Makata, I assume he only fell because he, He tested positive for COVID-19 early and just recently returned from the team.

There's a chance he won't be quite ready for the start of the season, but it shouldn't be too long into it that he is. And he may be. And I don't need to tell any of you guys what makes Molokata worth drafting. You all like them more than I do. That's right.

Wonderful pick, Scott. And especially at pick 122, which Scott just keeps to gobbling up all the hitter value, wound up with Bobaichette in the 10th and then Yohan Moncada in the 11th round. Luis Robert just went off the board at pick 126. Points League is probably not his preferred format. Doesn't have great plate discipline, but in round 11, I thought about taking him over Eddie Rosario.

I was debating, I took Rosario, but I was debating Rosario or Luis Robert at this point. The thing about Luis Robert is he doesn't have great plate discipline. He doesn't actually strike out that much. he's not, you know, a 30% strike guy. He's not Fernando Tatis. You know, he puts the bat on the ball. The problem is he's not a selective hitter. He just, he's very aggressive.

But, I mean, if he hits 300, it's not going to matter whether he walks much. It's one of those things where if Louise Roberts is good as he can be, it really won't matter that he doesn't walk that much. It's one of the things with this format that you kind of have to keep in mind is that, like, yes, walks are important. and not striking out is important, but you still have to be a good hitter. You know, Carlos Santana made that jump to the elite tier last year

because he got better as a hitter. Right, but I think you look at like Starling Marte, right? Used to hit 300. Was always a lot better in Roto than points. Sure, sure. I think Lewis Roberts better in Roto. Yeah, like a second round pick in Roto or a third round pick in Roto, probably more like a six round pick in points.

But now at this point, yeah, he does, you know, if he just, you know, does what he can do, he's going to be, he's going to be great. If Robert's a 290 hitter with 30 Homer pace, it's not going to, it really doesn't matter all that much that he's played discipline isn't great. Anyway, I took Reese Hoskins over Paul Goldschmidt because last year in this format, Paul Goldschman scored eight more fantasy points than Reese Hoskins. And that was with Hoskins sitting like 220. So I was all set to take Goldsmith. I was like, you know what? Like Goldsmith's on the way down. Hoskins is 27.

Still has a chance to be a lot better than he was last year. So I feel good about that pick. Yeah, I was going to say it worked out for you. You wanted a first baseman earlier on, and you were kind of stressed out that they all went, but, I mean, to get Reese Hoskins in round 11, I think that that is a pretty damn good value. Ken Giles goes off the board right after you took Hoskins,

Hermann Marquez, Alex Wood, Masahiro Tanaka, Tommy Lestella, a Roldis Chapman, and then Adam took, how do you say that guy's name? Luke Weaver. He's have a better voice. I can't even hit the note anymore. What is... Podcasts on these vocal cords.

What number of pitchers is that for you, Adam? Four without my Ada. Five with my Ada. Not bad. Luke Weaver is your SP5? Yeah, I'm going to say five. I think I'm probably going to go. We have reached the point in the draft

where the hitters are much, much better than the pitchers. That happened probably about a round or two ago. I think that happened by the third round. There were waves, you know, like, because I think it was, it was more hitter heavy than I expected. Yeah, but for those drafts where pitchers went flying off the board. And now it's just like the pitters are really good still and the pitchers are not.

Yeah, I don't know. Ever since I took last night, I've just not liked the pitchers that I was looking at. That's been a big part of why I haven't had a good time in this draft. It's just, it just seems like the pitchers have not been great across the board. whenever I've picked. Well, okay, so Mark Kana went here in round 12, two picks before me. There was no way I was going to take him at this point. That's a little early for him.

Yeah. Tommy Lestella went early in round 12 here. A couple picks before Adam. That's something we don't often see. Looks like our friend William Knight. He's up to four starting pitchers now. his staff is Yanni Chorinos

Ryan Yarbrough, Alex Wood, and Masahiro Tanaka. Yeah, he didn't know that quality starts count for points. He wasn't really, I feel bad criticizing his team. He just didn't realize what the format truly was. Well, there's

an easy way around that, but fine. Yeah, I think it's time to take Jesus Lassardo. He's on his way back. Still RPL.P. Yeah, look. He's in my bus column, but that's because he's still going around 100th overall in a lot of drafts. 143. His is a harder there's fine.

And in hindsight, I probably should have taken to myself. I wound up taking Michael Conforto as my third outfielder. I'm now mad at Joseph Dunn. He has made an enemy because I didn't think there was any way Armand Marquez was going to go off the board between my last picks. And he did. I'm mad about it. You should be thanking Joseph Dunn. Armand Marquez is a must-star pitcher

whenever he's on the road. He's got four of his first seven starts on the road if it lines up the same way. And one of those road starts or one of those home starts is against the Giants. Armand-Marquez is probably going to be really, really good to start the season at the very least.

And seven starts is going to be more than halfway through. Chris, you ended the slide For Zach Wheeler, pick 144. Thrilled about it. I mean, that's pretty late. Yeah, he should go around 90 if he's healthy. He's a reliable, weird to say that he's kind of a reliable, like Jose Barrios type pitcher because he goes about it completely differently.

He throws much harder. Seems like he should get more strikeouts, but he doesn't really. But, you know, he'll get wins on the Philly. you know, maybe they'll give him more wins than the Mets do for their starting pitchers. But yeah, it was just kind of he's the last of a very specific tier, I think. All right. And you have a back-to-back pick and you took David Dahl. David Dahl, one of my breakouts, leadoff hitter for the Colorado Rockies. I mean, look, if he was ever going to stay healthy, a 60-game season would do it.

This is a hell of a team that Chris Towers has. Gotten better. Is that true? I'm, it's, I hate each aggregate, each individual pick as I'm making it, but the aggregate is pretty good. So you have, again, Carlos Santana, Kesson Hiara, Jose Ramirez, Corey Seeger, Yelich, J.D. Martinez, you just got David Dahl as your third outfielder, and then Rich Hill, Zach Wheeler, Sunny Gray, Robbie Ray, Tyler Glass Now, and you have Carlos Martinez of the Spark. It's coming together, Chris. Don't be so mad about Matthew Boyd. Starting to come together, Chris. I would just feel better if Matthew Boyd was my number three.

I guess he would have been my number two at the time, or number three. He would have been number three after Sunny Gray. The numbers you just said about Matthew Boyd are how many wins he's hoping to get this year. Didn't he get like 12 last year or something? It was a lot longer season. Well, okay. Yes. He might only win three games.

Scott, three, two. I'm on it. I'm on it, Frank. And he takes Eduardo Rodriguez. Yeah, who we heard yesterday is, how did they put it? He's gotten some good news on his testing or something like that. So it sounds like he's on his way back. And while he may not be built up in time for his first turn,

Eduardo Rodriguez doesn't sound like he's, you know, we at least have sort of a timetable for him. So it seems like he fell a little bit considering, I don't love him. I mean, I would have rather had Wheeler if Chris hadn't taken him. But for my sixth starter, I think he'll be pretty good. As your sixth starter, and I took Chris Davis with a K, round 13. Is it too early? Seems like it might be a little early.

I wind up with one of- In a points league, I think it's too early, given that he's utility only. What is the justification for taking Chris Davis over Miguel Sanoe, who I almost took but don't have a spot for? But if you're acknowledging your utility spot is open anyway, why wouldn't you just take Miguel Sineau? Yeah, probably should have taken sense. The best case scenario for Chris Davis is quite a bit better, I think.

Yeah, I mean, we're kind of hoping Suno... Sinole turns into Chris Davis, no? Chris Davis doesn't strike out nearly as much as Miguel Sineau. Miguel Sano is a legitimate 36, 37% strikeout rate guy. All right, one was great last year and is young. One was bad last year and is old. Right, but he was hurt. I think it's worth mentioning...

totally explains it. I mean, maybe, no, no, it does. We just don't know yet. Sure, but Chris Davis,

Chris Davis was putting together another 40 homer, 250 average season. I don't think the average. I think the average was like 2.30 something. But that's, he got off to a very hot start, then had several bad weeks.

It was just, then got hurt. But it was the hip, and he continued to have bad weeks. I'm just saying, like, this is, I think people are a little too sanguine

on the possibility, on the, on, on, on, on, on, of Chris Davis just being a third round value again.

Yeah, that's fair. I should have taken one of Suno or Paul Goldschman. That is fair criticism. Frank, I agree. I can't believe I'm being criticized for saying you should take Miguel Snow over Chris Davis, which everybody but Frank in this mock draft has done. I agree with Scott taking Chris Davis in the third round

was a terrible pick. Probably the worst of the draft. in the third round? He was pointing out that Chris Davis in round 13 is good value. So let's go. Let's do it. I guess part of my question is, with Miguelson, how close to his best case scenario was last season?

I'd say it was probably about there. I mean, obviously, staying healthy. He scored fewer points per game than Chris Davis in 2018 with his best case scenario. I think Sano's best case scenario is much likelier than Chris Davis. Obviously, everybody ranks to know ahead. So they must think so too. I don't understand why Davis was like he was my favorite value at the start of draft season.

I don't know where he actually goes because Frank takes him in every draft, which is like I get it. I think Davis is great. He, okay, his typical line, 249 batting average or 247 or whatever with like 42 home runs, Sinoa could beat that. But Sino has a lot more downside. He's got, he tested positive for COVID. How can you say Sano has a lot more downside?

Suno was sent down to the minors two years ago. Yeah. That should have been sent down to the minors last year. That's how bad he was. Yeah, but no. That was the injury. I mean, he wasn't that bad before the injury. I know he wasn't as good as he typically was, but you guys in your sanguine ways,

go soon. You stop saying sanguine? Yeah. you're all, you're all a bunch of sanguinees. It's on Scott's Word of the Month calendar. Yeah, before the injury, which happened on May 4th, or May 5th, I think. He was hitting 231, so 16 points lower, which is one hit at 1.6 hits every hundred. It's not.

That is, that is, all right. All right. You guys like Chris Davis more. I like Miguel Snowmore. Meanwhile, mini picks are happening. We're not getting a chance to discuss me. I don't think that, like, this hasn't really been as adversarial as you're making it out to be. Like, I totally don't know.

I'm just frustrated that we're still talking about it. All right. All right. Well, did I take Miguel Sanoe? I forgot. No, you took Jago to Rizzi. A different twin. No, it's still out there.

I think I'm going to take Miguel Sanoe with my next pick. See, I just wanted to help out at him. That's why. That's what it comes out. Well, he's going to be first base and third base eligible. That's a point in his favor as well, Scott. Like, you're talking about everybody takes Sineau over Chris Davis. I don't think that would be the.

case if Chris Davis were first and third base eligible or at least was going to be, then I think it would be really close. So, yeah, like I think Sino has more power than him because he has more power probably than everyone, but he also has more downside because he strikes out more than everyone. But they're both, I think,

perfectly fine picks at this point. It's just, it's really easy to fill your utility spot in this, in this format, this shallow points league format. And this is a good chance you could fill it with somebody better than Chris Davis, you know,

throughout the year. So, I don't know. In a Roto League, it's tougher, and maybe Davis should go earlier in Roto leagues. But in a points league, this shallow of a hitting format, I probably would have waited a little bit longer. But, you know, look, if he hits 248 with 40 Homer Pace, it's going to be a great pick, Frank. Well, thank you, Adam. And we are running long here. That's what we typically do when we have the live mock drafts. I want to thank the listeners who joined us today as well. Alfredo Rodriguez, Matt Emerson, Nick Fox, Mike Choi, Michael Murphy, William Knight, Tyler Wilson, Joseph Dunn, and that's it.

I was about to say Chris Towers, he is not a listener. Maybe he's a listener when he's not on the show. I listen, yeah, I listen. But, you know, he's here quite regularly. Guys, any resounding thoughts heading into the weekend? This is going to be a big draft weekend? Is there anything that you want to remind the listeners before we wrap up the pod,

and then you could see the rest of the mock draft results on CBSports.com? For me, really. I'm starting to be... more worried, and I included Zach Ranky in my bus column to kind of express this idea, I'm becoming more worried about those guys for whom stability is one of their calling cards, one of their strengths, the fact that the kind of guys who you know are going to be good, or at least you feel confident are going to be good, rather than the guys who you think could be superstars. And so, you know, I would include Jose Abraeu in there. I think

you know, Zach Wheeler, even if he does make every start, I think probably counts there. Jose Berrios. I'm definitely worried that, I mean, one of the biggest points in their favor as a fantasy player is gone. There's no such thing as stability or predictability in a 60 game season. And for compilers, and I think Jose Obrayu is definitely a compiler, there's not as many opportunities for him to stay in the lineup while other guys get hurt. there's not as many opportunities for him to, you know, to literally compile.

So that's one of the big things that I've been thinking about this last week, really, that I've come around to. Anything else, guys? If you're in this format, if you're in this format, three outfielder points league, a lot of people are going to be drafting in this format. We're in round 14 and some of the picks, Danny Santana, who I don't like, but whatever. Jake Oteresey, Paul Goldsmith, Justin Turner, Dylan Bundy, Dylan C's, Gene Seguerah, Hunter Dozier.

I think that's a great pick. Miguel Seno, Andrew Benintendi, I think that's a great pick at 161 overall. This is where the hitters are so much better than the pitchers. So I'm not saying that, you know, you saw me on today's draft. I definitely veered for my pitching strategy because I thought some of the hitters were too good to pass up. I'm not saying you can't do that.

But this is why you build your pitching staff because in this league, you might not realize it until you get to round 12 or later, but you are going to love the hitters that are. are available to you. You are going to want them to be starters for you, and you are not going to love the starting pitchers. So make sure you don't wait too long. Very well said, Adam. Scott, any closing thoughts before draft weekend? Yeah, I think I would, for this format, I would echo Adam's sentiments. And I kind of talked about it at the top. Like, every time I don't go heavy in this format in particular. So if you hit her spots to fill and you don't have to balance your

categorical needs. Like there's just, you're just going to wish you had more hitter spots. So take the pitchers when you can't, you know. And that's what I did drafting five with my first six picks. I'm pretty satisfied with my lineup.

You know, obviously if you're drafting at a roto league and there are those hitter issues. Yeah, I mean, I'm sticking by what I've been saying since way back in February, maybe even before that. You need four pitchers that you can count on being high end.

For me, it's about the top 35. But, you know, I'll let you use your own judgment as to where exactly you draw that line. I think that it remains the single most important thing on draft day. If you're in a format that prioritizes steals, you know, that's like 1A to getting those high in starting pitchers. And then the biggest change in terms of how I'm approaching. the player pool with the season taking on the form it is, is that, like, I normally invest almost nothing in a closer.

I don't necessarily care that much if I don't get guys in line for saves, but because I know they will emerge over the course of the season. And to me, that is the single biggest thing that I can't know anymore, that I used to know and that I used to bank on filling out my saves as the year went on. That's just not an option anymore, so I'm having to pay up. I've gone from paying nothing for saves to paying slightly something for saves. Congrats again to those who will be participating in our listener leagues. There's a chance that we will have a special guest on Monday's podcast.

So keep your ears peeled. I don't know if that actually works. Eyes peeled is the actual saying, so I just completely messed that up. I'm just going to end the show here because... Keep your ear horn ready. Yeah, keep your ear horn ready. Yeah, that's the same. That's how it goes.

For Adam, Scott and Chris, I am Frank, thank you all for listening and watching on the Fantasy Baseball today, YouTube channel. We'll be back again on Monday. Bye-bye.