Fantasy Baseball Today - Live Roto Salary Cap Draft Part 2! Mid-Late Round Bids & Strategy (3/22 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)
Episode Date: March 22, 2022Let's continue on with the second hour of our live Salary Cap draft! How much did low-mid tier closers go for? How much did prospects like Riley Greene and Spencer Torkelson go for? Why did pitching g...et pushed up? 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's Frank, Scott, and Chris.
All right, we are into our two here in our salary cap draft,
and let's get caught up on the latest.
Oh, we've got a big spender.
Carlos Hernandez went for $1.
It was a very late-round sleeper candidate
for the Kansas City Royals.
I don't even know if he's going to be in the rotation.
Somewhat interesting.
He is kind of interesting.
He throws hard.
He's got a few different pitches.
It looked good after.
It's always interesting when a guy transitions
from the bullpen to the rotation
and sustained their velocity gains.
I remember, actually speaking of the Royals,
it was Danny Duffy,
who made a similar transition when he had his,
was his second breakout when he was,
they had kind of given up on him.
They moved into the bullpen all of a sudden.
he was throwing like 96, he moves back into the rotation and sustained it.
So that's a potential undervalued aspect of pitching.
This has been a real slow grind here for Wander Franco.
He started slowing down in the mid-teens,
and I thought he was going to go for a really good discount,
but slowly climbing up there, made his way to...
Pretty much right bit where he belongs, $20 is what he goes for.
Made it up to $20.
I've got him at $17, so a little...
Little pricier than I would go, but I'm down on him a little bit in this format specifically.
Yep. Again, how much is he going to run? What's the power like his first full season in the majors?
I get it. They're our question marks.
Like, you know who might be a pretty good comp for him actually is Brian Reynolds.
And Brian Reynolds ended up going for what, 16 to Scott?
Yeah.
You know, obviously Franco has more upside.
If, you know, he makes a big leap. But I think the likelier outcome this season is that Brian
Reynolds is better based on what we've seen from him.
You know, that's an interesting one.
I'm not personally willing to pay the premium for Wanderfranco this season, I guess.
I am willing to do it in a points league for sure.
The plate discipline is fantastic.
He's going to walk quite a bit.
Should hit more doubles than home runs you would expect.
Okay, I thought I was about to win Zander Bogart's for 15 bucks.
I threw him out there and I'm like, I don't even want him.
I just wanted to start the bidding a little bit higher.
So please, somebody, I mean, I would have taken him for 15.
everybody's in the same boat because this is some reluctant bidding.
Oh, geez, yeah.
Yeah, come on, Chris.
Everybody's plan didn't include Zander Bogart.
Somebody, get in there.
They're getting in there.
He's up to 20 now.
So he's at least going for what Wander Franco did.
This is so tough because I've got him as a $21 player.
It's a good discount.
Zander Bogart's going for the same price as Wander
Franco is like, I know it's a salary cap draft and things happen,
but that is like the best possible example of
Wanderfranco could be anything he could be
even be Zander Bogart's.
Like, Xander Bogart's...
I think the likely scenario is he is
Zander Bogarts this year, for what it's worth.
Ooh.
I think that's really underselling
Xander Bogarts.
I mean...
I know he wasn't great in the second half last season,
but Zander Bogart's like,
he's hit like 294 years in a row.
I think Wander Franco's an easy pencil him in for 290 kind of guy.
Absolutely.
As little as he strikes out?
Yeah.
I think batting average is very safe for him.
And 20 Homer power,
Like 20 to 25 homer power.
That's what I think Bogart's is with the new ball
because he hit 23 last year.
His exit velocity is pretty middling.
So I see him as 2025 homer guy.
I don't think that's too much of a stretch for...
It's worth pointing out.
Zander Bogartz, over the last four seasons,
he took a big step forward in 2018.
His 162 game pace, which, you know,
obviously there are fraught issues with using full season paces,
but in his case, we're talking about the,
COVID season being the main thing holding his overall numbered back.
299, 30 homers, 102 runs, 108 RBI, 8 steals.
Yes, maybe the 33 homers in 2019 and the 28 to 30 homer pace in 2020
kind of stand out a little bit.
But that feels really aggressive with Wander Franco, I would say.
I think you're just a hater, Chris.
I think you're a Wander Franco hater.
I think you're a Zander Bogart hater.
I think he's going to make it a little.
L.A.
Jander Bogartz is awesome.
I don't understand.
He's a great player, but his power is,
he's not going to give you big power numbers in all likelihood.
You guys are just haters.
Everyone hates on Zander Bogartz.
All right, let's catch people up.
Since Zander Bogartz went for $20,
Adam Duval went for $4.
Scotty snuck in there with a little Javier Baez for $15.
And then Shane Bieber goes for $29.
So $1 less than Walker Bueller and $2 less
and Jacob de Grom, which, you know, makes sense.
That would make him a late second,
probably early third round kind of player.
Scott, talk to us about Javier Baez.
I think you have him for $17 on the site.
Yeah, so I knew I was willing to go 20 on a second baseman,
and he was there for 15,
a guy who's going to help a little bit in stolen bases.
So, you know, I'm actually,
for somebody who's being intentionally unintentional about stolen bases this year,
I'm actually doing well and stolen bases in this draft.
I got Tatis, I got Teosker Hernandez, I got Baez.
You know, I didn't go for Whitmeryfield or Trey Turner or whatever.
But if this was a standard snake draft and I had accumulated this many steals up to this point,
I would be ahead of my usual pace for sure.
All right.
Shane Boz went in the meantime.
He went for $4.
There was some news about Shane Boz on Monday.
Ray's manager, Kevin Cash, told reporters that chain bars underwent arthroscopic surgery on Monday to remove loose bodies from his right elbow and that he will resume throwing in two to three weeks.
That seems pretty optimistic for someone who's getting arthroscopic surgery. I mean, I guess it's not, you know, anything too serious, but...
Well, is he going to throw in two to three weeks? Really? Really? It's surgery on an elbow.
Mookie Betz was dealing with loose bodies in his hip last year.
And there's lingering concerns about that.
This is a young pitcher, a 22-year-old pitcher who throws close to 100 miles per hour who's having surgery during spring training, even minor surgery.
Like, there's no such thing as minor surgery for a 22-year-old starting pitcher, right?
No.
I mean, it's pretty scary stuff, Chris.
So.
Yeah.
Yeah, I considered throwing him out there up to five.
And I ultimately ended up throwing him out there for three.
looks like someone wanted to go for five for
Boz, but he ended up going for four,
so I don't know what we're going to do.
Looks like we're going to leave it at four.
So I think four or five dollars is a reasonable place to end up with a guy,
you know,
like Shane Boz with that kind of upside.
All right.
We're going to redo both of the last two here.
Boz for four, went for four.
Pablo Lopez went for 21.
I think that was a jump bid situation.
21.
Geez.
Yes.
Someone might get saved from their,
from their Pablo Lopez bid.
We have to redo Baz anyway
because somebody got locked out.
So we'll just redo both.
All right.
And he is at $5.
So one more than he went for.
Let's see.
Here I want to know
what kind of commissioner
Scott really is.
All right.
Lopez should be 21, right?
I'm saying we're going to redo both
because it was a jump-aid situation.
Right, but someone put him out there for 20.
That person shouldn't get bailed out.
I'm a nice guy, Chris.
Sorry.
Wow.
It was obviously way too much for Lopez.
That's not what Chris said earlier.
That's not what he said about you earlier.
Somebody made a point to put a $20 bid on Pablo Lopez.
Someone else got jump bid on it.
I'm just saying.
Well, if somebody wants to go 20 on him again, they can.
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean, it's, I never use the bid up one button.
Just because I would be horrified if that happened to me.
Right.
I only do it when, you know, it's the very end.
And I can only go $2 on anybody.
That's like the only time I ever used the bid plus one button.
Lopez was, he looked great in his first start of the spring.
It was obviously spring training, you know, you don't want to take too much from it.
And the concern about him isn't that he's good.
I think we all agree that he's good.
And CERN is...
The shoulder.
The shoulder and just his ability to stay healthy.
And oh my God.
Texas is beating Cleveland.
Texas just beat Cleveland 25 to 12.
In baseball?
Yes.
Not in March Madness tournament.
I was like, what?
Oh, now it all makes sense.
All right, so that's why Scott threw Pablo Lopez back
because he wanted to win him for 12 bucks.
So it all makes sense now.
I'm playing the rest of the season under protest.
I am.
It's a good thing.
George Brett running out of the dugout.
I've got Lopez for 12.
Scott has him for 12 on the site.
Carlos Correa is currently out there for 15.
Make it 16.
Geez.
Now I've never gotten so much backlash for being generous here.
Generously stealing other players.
God.
Charles Carrella is 17.
He's such a nice guy.
I let myself get Pablo Lopez for 12.
Yeah, it seems like...
Whoever bid him 20 on him last time could have done it again.
I wasn't going to bid 20.
SMH.
That's about the right price for Carlos Correa.
Scott has him for 17.
I have him for 16.
Chris has him for 18.
So we're looking at about the right price for Carlos Correa.
And now Logan Webb is up.
and Scott's jumping in.
He's trying to find his pitchers.
Yeah.
I'm going to let this one go, though.
He's up to 20 now.
Oh, yeah.
I have him at 21.
So that's not really much of a discount.
I think we're going to get better discounts here.
I don't know.
Like, I may regret that Lopez bid.
You know, we may see, like, the U.
Darvish's of the world go for 12.
U. Darvish had a...
I think U.S. had a...
pretty awesome start on Monday as well.
Pull that up.
I believe it was three scoreless
innings.
Five or six strikeouts, something like that.
So,
pull that up, let you know.
And yeah,
Darvish.
Three scoreless, three hits,
zero walks, six strikeouts.
Pretty good.
He was going up against a
not so great Rockies lineup,
filled with prospects and young players.
So,
eh,
good on Darvish.
See him healthy out there.
Oh, this is going to
hurt me. No, don't do it. Take it. Do it, Frank. I can't, oh my. You're going to do it? I mean, I can, but
I already, I already, I got story. I got story for 23. I didn't, I didn't want to spend that much.
A middle infield spot. Yeah, Lindor, Lindor a little cheaper for Correa, $3 cheaper. That's,
that's, that's a good outcome for the person who got Lindor. I wrote down story or Lindor as my
shortstop. That's who I wanted. And I spent $23 on story and Lindor goes for 15.
Oh, that sucks.
The guy who won him is complaining.
He didn't want him.
Why not?
It's a great price.
Went for cheaper than Carlos Correa.
Look, the Francisco Indoor hate has gone too far.
That's what I will say.
I don't think, I haven't heard much hate except for me.
And I'm even saying 15 is too low.
So maybe this is the beginning of the discounts.
Maybe this is where we're seeing all.
that, those overbys.
Patrick Corbyn.
Earlier coming into play.
Patrick Corbyn just went for a dollar
to Jason Austin.
Wow, Jason Austin has a lot of players already.
He has all of his pitchers.
Mm-hmm.
He's been, he's been quite aggressive.
Garrett Cole, he's got Julio O'Reas,
Scott Barlow, Patrick Corbyn, Mitch Keller,
Jordan Romano, David Bednar,
Nestor Cortez, and Carlos Hernandez.
So the problem here is he can't draft another pitcher
until the reserve rounds.
And so while he's got some interesting guys, you know, there are guys like Carlos Hernandez and Nessa Cortez.
And I think you could even throw Mitch Keller in there who, you know, there are interesting things about them.
But, you know, even if you get those guys for a dollar or something like that, you know, not having any more flexibility with your pitching staff when you have money is, I think not necessarily worth it.
there. That is fair.
All right. What else is going on here?
John Carlos Stanton went for $12.
That's...
Yeah, what do you project Stanton for, Chris? I'm surprised.
I got him in 19. Honestly, I wasn't looking.
I didn't realize he was up.
That's my bad. I messed up.
Oh, geez. All right. Well, another goodbye there for
Greg Lathrop again. Our defending champion.
Got Lindor for 15, Stanton for 12.
I think we're seeing it. I think we're seeing the
transition from overpays to underpays here because
Lendora 15, Stanton at 12,
Chapman, or oldest Chapman here is going for 11.
Now, I haven't projected for 12, but most closers
go for more than I project them for because I intentionally
have closers pushed down my rankings.
That's interesting. It's starting.
It starts.
It starts now.
And you know who's up? Sandy.
Sandy O'Conora.
Let's see where this goes. Hopefully I could win him for a buck.
Oh, no, it's not going to happen.
Geez.
All right, he's up to 18.
Will he go higher?
How much higher is the question?
Oh, no, come on.
Don't do that, guys.
He's up to 23, 24.
Well, it's, it's what it should be.
This is not going to be one of those discounts.
Oh, geez.
I think it's the $10 to $15 range or maybe the $18 range.
Or maybe the $18.
I think it's not the starting.
I think it's more not the starting pitchers.
Oh, no.
Pitchers were undervalued earlier,
but I guess everybody still needs them.
Yeah, because like what we've seen,
like Logan Webb for 20 is fine,
but it's not a crazy discount.
Pablo Lopez for 12, again, that's fine.
So I think pitchers have mostly held steady.
Or starting pitchers at least.
Revers, not so much.
Sandy O'Connor goes for $27.
That's an example of
you know, potentially people seeing it as a
maybe the end of a tier.
I don't have it ranked that way, but yeah, 27 is
quite a little bit more than I have him for.
Here you go. RJ White just nominated Jesse Winker
straight to 8, and he got him.
You got him. I project Winker for 12, but I'm not eager to draft him
now that he's with Seattle, which I don't think is a great
situation for him.
and uh hard to argue the price yeah winker for eight um just getting back to sandy real quick
sky you and i both have them for 27 so it's a fair price for this format but oh geez i thought
i could have got them for cheaper you know what has happened and you know i tell everybody not to do
this but i like the players that i want they're being thrown out at the wrong time they're they've
been the end of the tier for players that I want,
and ultimately that's led to those players going for more money than
than I want them to, more money than they should go for.
So that's a lesson to all of you out there.
If you want a player, either throw them out earlier.
Well, don't wait, because if they're the last player in that tier,
they're going to go for more money, most likely.
All right, Casey Meis goes for three bucks.
Jorge Polanco went for 15.
All right, kind of snuck that one by.
It's not a bad price for,
Jorge Polanco.
And Chris, you're up.
You're up, good sir.
Who will you nominate?
AJ Pollock.
I believe he got scratched
from the lineup on Monday.
Wow.
AJ Pollock, not currently healthy.
Shock.
Who would have thought?
General Soreness, he's fine.
Was hoping I could sneak him through.
Would have been nice to sneak him through for a dollar.
Wasn't sure I'd be able to do that.
But AJ Pollock has been awesome over the past two
seasons. Counting stats aren't going to be great. But he's got like a 900 OPS the past two seasons. So,
you know, nice player to have for $2. And, you know, one thing that's nice about getting someone
for a dollar or $2 early in your draft, especially if it is someone you like like I do with Pollock,
is there's a little certainty there, you know, that you know how much you have left to spend.
and, you know, I like locking something in like that,
even if, like, maybe I could have gotten Pollock for a dollar later.
I don't know.
But in terms of the strategy, you know, there's value in that certainty as well.
All right, Aranola going up to 27 as well.
So the same price as Sandy Alcansara.
And, yeah, that's like an early to mid third round player.
So I guess it makes sense.
And just like that, the next point.
player thrown out.
Lucas Gialito.
Oof.
I'm going to go ahead and guess he's going to go
for right around $27.
That probably makes sense.
RJ did his little famous jump bit to 25.
Gotta be honest.
Feeling good about Kevin Gosman at 21.
In light of those.
I know,
you know,
we probably all have
Gosman ranked a little lower than Sandy,
Gialito,
and who is the other one?
Nola?
Nola.
I've got Galsman right in that range.
So, I'm feeling pretty good about that one.
And I wound up with Lucas Xilito.
So RJ jumped him up to 25.
I bid one more.
And no one else jumped in.
So get them for $1 less than Nola and $1 less than Sandy.
Exactly the trend I expected.
You know, once we started talking about maybe the values were coming, not at starting
pitcher.
starting pitchers are pretty much going for
what they would at any other point in the draft.
You know, if Sandy Alcantara and Aaron Nola
had been nominated in the first 15 picks,
they probably would have gone in the high 20s.
Right.
I think the best values at starting pitcher
have been the early round pitchers.
Yeah.
Yeah, Chris, I mean, you wound up with Scherzer for 33.
I mean, in hindsight.
Shurzer and Gosman for 54 combined,
I'm very happy with.
In hindsight, I'd rather have Scherzer
for,
33 than winning Gileto for 26.
So I think it's a good buy on your part.
And Garicola, I think, went for 38.
And Burns went for 35.
So I think the high-end starting pitchers were,
represent the best values so far in this draft.
All right.
Marcel Ozuna is out there for six bucks.
Not anymore.
It's up to seven.
Yeah, I think now that it's abundantly clear,
he's going to be an everyday player for the Braves.
he's moved way up the rankings.
I have him
29th in my outfield rankings right now
as a $12 player.
Chris gets him for nine.
Yeah, I thought about going to 10.
It's a good buy.
Yeah, I've got him for 12 too, so...
I like it.
I like it.
This should be a fun one.
Spencer Torkelson thrown out for a buck.
I think his counterpart,
Riley Green went for seven?
Seven earlier on?
Seven or five.
Yeah.
I'm not going to get him in this draft,
but Spencer Torkelson
is definitely somebody
I need to start prioritizing
I just I have no idea
who else plays first base for the Tigers
what probably happens if he doesn't win the job
is Jonathan Scope moves from second to first
and they play somebody
dumb like Willie Castro there
until Torkelton's ready
and that's kind of also true
of center field for them right
poor Willie Castro
they had Victor Reyes for center field
with Riley Green
I feel like there's more momentum
him for Torkelson because Miguel Cabrera's like talked about how he wants them on the team and
everything. But Riley Green between the two actually had the better numbers of AAA last year.
So we'll see. It could be both.
Scott, I know that you've recently moved Spencer Torkelson up your ranks. I did the same thing.
I moved them up to 23 in my first base ranks. And that makes him a $3 player and he just went
for seven. So you know, a little bit more than that. Same price is his teammate, Riley Green.
And now Corey Seeger is out there.
And he is up to $13.
See where this one winds up.
Scott versus Chris.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Okay.
Correa went for 17.
Seeger is exactly at 17.
Now 18.
He should go for more.
And it doesn't always work out that way in these salary drafts.
Right.
Because of the timing of nominations and everything.
It looks like Seeger is going to go for more or less an appropriate price here.
He's at Wanderfranco's cost now $20.
Yeah, I've gone to 24 or so.
At this point in the draft, that feels reasonable.
Bogarts was a really good buy at, I think, same price, right?
20 bucks?
I mean, I'd rather...
Scott hates it.
I'd rather have Seagre.
I think Seager has more upside.
I do have Bogart's one spot ahead, but they're basically even for me.
I was saying Boogertz.
Lindor too
I look 15 bucks for Lindor
I'll keep going back to that it's
too cheap too cheap
All right Rysa Lee Glacius is out there
Another closer
One of the top closers in the game
And he's all the way up to nine bucks
See where this one winds up
All right
Is that 12
We need to have
We need to save our talking
For when the bidding is happening
As opposed to right after the player is won
Yeah I think
I think, so Josh Hader hasn't been nominated yet.
So we'll see if he ends up exceeding Liam Hendricks $21.
Right now,
Leeu, Eglacius is at 15 after Emmanuel Class A went for 16.
So relative to each other, you know,
they basically went like they should,
but relative to other closers,
Iglesias and Class A both seemed a little bit discounted.
And he went to the champion.
I'm not the champion.
But Rice-Sely Glacius, I won him for 15 bucks.
What that tells me is at least for our own room here.
I'm supposed to nominate a player.
Whoopsie.
At least for our own room here,
people want saves,
but they're not willing to pay a few dollars extra
for the more dominant save sources.
They just want saves.
Yep.
So I had around,
I wrote $15 to $17 for,
I wanted a top eight-ish, top-10 closer,
and more than happy to get Riceley-Glasis for that price,
who I have as the third-ranked closer this upcoming season.
Yeah, I mean, I think I have Class A slightly ahead of him,
but, you know, 15 is, I'm low on closures,
and I have him as a $15 player.
So at this point in the draft, that's probably a pretty good value.
Mm-hmm.
All right, Holt-L-Tube went for $19 bucks.
And RJ throwing out Zach Ranky for two.
What do you say, Scott?
You got three?
That's kind of like my Pollock buy,
where it's just, you know,
lock in a little bit of a little bit of price certainty
on your roster for a guy that,
you know, if you got him for a dollar,
you'd be happy.
Well, $2 is only $1 more.
I think by the time we get to the end game,
the thought of Granky for $3 will seem ridiculous
just because of the quality of players
you can still get for $3 at that point.
Just WIC based on the way this has played out
with the people spending big early.
Granky for two is one thing,
but Granky for three,
not willing to do it.
One more dollar.
I'm good at math, guys.
It doesn't sound like much,
it doesn't sound like much
with like a Freddie Freeman.
But for a Zach Ranky, $1 more is a lot.
50% more.
Yeah.
I'm really good at math, guys.
Robbie Ray went for $24.
And now Tyler O'Neill is thrown out there coming off of a breakout season.
Some power, some speed.
Lots of strikeouts.
Honestly, I have no idea where to rank Tyler O'Neill.
I have him 50th overall as a $20 player.
And it's just like, I kind of just feel like I just put him there.
and I just haven't thought about it since.
Like, there's upside beyond that for sure.
There's a lot of downside.
There's a lot of ways things can go wrong.
I feel like Tyler O'Neill might be a better example
of the argument I've made against Austin Riley
of how things can go really, really wrong,
and we're kind of paying a premium for the version
that things went right.
But I think O'Neill has even more upside than Riley,
you know, because he could be potentially a 20-steel guy.
That's a good price.
He goes for $14.
So if he could stay on the field, I know he's dealt with some injuries.
But man, the talent, the power, the speed.
You look at Stackass, the max EV and the sprint speed.
It's massive for Tyler O'Neill.
So nice buy for $14.
And now Dalton Varsho gets thrown out there.
I think I'm regretting my non-bid on Altovae for 20.
I had room for another $20 player and I overlooked it.
This is a good part of the draft to be looking for hitting help.
You know, like if you passed on, like Scott, like Frank did,
if you passed on the first and second round type of guys,
you can get a lot of fourth and fifth round guys for, you know,
really 14 to 20 right now when they, you know,
should all be 20 plus probably.
All right. Scott, you wound up with Dalton Varsho for 10 bucks.
So you got Varsho and Salvador Perez.
combined $42 there on your catchers.
And man, this is more speed
than I'm used to seeing on your team, Scott.
I agree.
It sounds like Dalton Varsho
is going to be basically the everyday center fielder
backing up at catcher as well,
so he'll make occasional starts there.
But a catcher eligible player
playing every day somewhere else
and having the ability to steal bases,
like in this format,
five by five. I'm not sure he isn't
the catcher I want the second most to
Salvador Perez. So I
will definitely
take him at that cost.
All right, Josh Hader goes for
$19. Again, Liam Hendricks earlier
went for 21.
I got Riceley-Leglaces for 15.
So 19 sounds
about right for Josh Hater.
And now Chris Bryant is out there.
And
he's up 12 bucks.
Just signed with Colorado. So we've been talking
them up since then.
Yeah.
I mean,
lots to like.
Like I said,
this is a really good time
to be filling out
your hitter spots.
Because Chris Bryant
probably should be
closer to a $20
player.
And he's going to end up there.
No,
no discount on Chris Bryant.
So,
so yeah.
I was wrong about that.
That's fine.
That's where he goes.
No,
he's up to 21.
All right.
Yep.
Okay.
Very sneaky.
Jose Al Tuvae again went for 19,
so just to put that in perspective.
Chris Bryant goes for 21.
That is the final price for Bryant.
And Cori Segar went for 20.
I think that's probably maybe a couple dollars extra on Chris Bryant,
but he's in the news right now.
So that basically, look, he's being valued as a top 50 player now.
And I don't think that's crazy.
Yeah.
Now that he's in Corr's field.
I take a 300 average with 30 home runs.
I'll be a little disappointed if he doesn't get to that.
I think he has the potential to be what Nick Castellanos was last year.
Yeah.
But with more walks in leagues where that matters.
All right, Catel Marte is the next player up here, and he's currently at 17.
No, make that 18.
He's not really going to go for a discount either.
He is not.
Well, it depends who you ask.
some of us think he might be a $26 player
Wow
So how high is he
So he's well ahead of Chris Bryant for you then
Yes he's my number 36 overall player
Wow all right
I love Cotl Marte
And I wound up with
Because I would be disappointed if Ctelemartre didn't hit 315
With 30 home runs
I don't know about 30 home runs in Chase Field
Chase Field's an especially hard place to hit now
For power but 30 home runs
Certainly isn't off the table
Mm-hmm.
And I jumped in, and I wound up with Cotel Marte for $19.
I like it.
So to this point, I have P. Alonzo, Catell-Marte, Trevor Story, and Luis Robert.
And then I have Gialito and Reisel-Eglacius as my two pitchers.
So look at that.
We are an hour and a half in.
I've got six players.
I don't know if that's good.
It's probably not good.
I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
Kyle Swarber.
He's out there.
The beef cake, Scotty.
Yeah, I don't know.
that I have the money for him
but we'll see
we'll see what the bidding gets up to
alright
I guess you guys have him for around 15
yes exactly
yeah I've got 17
yeah so I've got them
given where hitter prices have been
in the last handful of picks
you know you would think
12 would make sense
but he's up to 15 now so
yeah no discount on him no discount on
Chris Bryant
there will be discount
I am trying to be
In Varsho I was willing to splurge for
because I think he's a one of a kind player
So I got him for 10
Which I told myself going in
If I told myself coming in
If you can get Varsho for 10, do it
So I listened to myself
All right, I had to do a double take
To make sure that name was correct
But Miguel Cabrera has just been thrown out for a dollar
You know one thing I will say is
Miguel Cabrera is a player who
It's a shame
That the shift
the shift changes aren't in effect now
because I feel like he's been impacted by the shift a little bit
and his quality of contact metrics are actually still pretty good
like it wouldn't surprise me if we got one
I hate this term but dead cat bounce season from
Miguel Cabrera where like he's not amazing but he hits like
265 with 30 homers
oh I tried to base looking at Nolan Aeronauter
go in there for 14.
I tried to bid, Scott.
Oh, did you get locked out?
Yeah, it wouldn't let me.
All right.
Let me see if we can redo that.
Oh, come on.
It's all good.
If...
No, no, no, no, no.
All right, yeah.
Aronado was at 14.
And Ryan Pustley was the next player,
but I think we're going to have to redo this.
Thank you, everyone, for hanging out.
We had multiple people locked out on Aronado,
so he's not going to go for 14.
Yep.
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No one Aradado, throw them back out there.
All right.
Let's see what this gets up to.
because it sounds like some people
wanted to get in on the bidding here
for Nolan Aeronado.
So now he's up to 16 right away.
Do you want to go 17, Frank?
You lock down now?
No.
No.
Okay.
That's a pretty good price for Aeronado.
Yeah.
It's not a really good price for Aeronado.
I didn't really want him.
He's not who I have written down at third base,
but when I saw him at 14, I was like,
you know what, I'll jump in, but not at 17.
Come on, who would do that?
It's way too much.
Just kidding.
All right, Ryan Presley is the next one up.
Another closer here.
All right, someone, do something.
I thought he was going to go for a buck.
I just, I have to mention, I just saw this tweet go by.
It's Bill James' top 10 starting pitchers.
Uh-oh.
Max Fried is number three.
And Ranger Suarez is number 10.
Oh, baby.
All right.
Let's go.
Let's go Ranger.
What's his nickname?
What's Bill James?
The godfather of Sabermetrics.
Why is he a godfather, not just a regular father?
Regular father is like a bigger deal than a godfather, right?
For father.
Oh, all right.
I've got a...
That's the term they use about the George Washington's.
Let's see.
All right, we'll throw this guy out there.
Brandon Lau for a box.
Yeah. For our listening audience, you should probably say the name of that guy.
That is, yes.
When you throw them out there.
Brandon Lau is the one that I threw out.
Ryan Presley went for $12.
It seems like a pretty fair price for him.
And I'll let you know how much Brandon Lau goes for.
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Anyway, Brandon Lau, there's a draft going on.
He went for $17.
$1 more than Nolan Aronado.
I guess that makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's reasonable.
I had a feeling Brandon Lau was going to be the first
that goes for like shockingly cheap
just because of the playing time issue in Tampa
and the batting average liability,
but it didn't happen.
17 is...
It's fine.
It's fine.
D.
Oh, man.
Now, do I want to go 15?
Alex Breggman is who's up.
Yeah,
Frank had him at $13.
He was frustrated that he couldn't get him.
He's gone up to 15.
Folks, this is riveting stuff.
Yeah.
Ah, Frank's not going to get him at 15.
That's it.
He jumps in for a $16.
We're punting at third base.
Great job.
Worth remembering two years ago.
Alex Breggman was a $40.
in a lot of salary cap drafts.
What was wrong with us?
We were nuts.
I'm pretty sure I was driving that bus.
Well, I quoted you in one of my pieces recently talking about your 2020 third base preview.
2019.
Or wait a 20.
No, going into 2020.
Yeah, where you said you've never seen a position in your 20 years covering fantasy sports.
Yeah.
That was deeper than third base.
and I don't say I don't bring that up
to criticize Scott.
It's mostly just to point out how far things have gone
but also
you know how recent
how little removed we are
from an era where we thought
third base was historically deep
and how I don't know
I'm starting to think we're going to get there
I don't think third base is going to be a disaster
between Bobby Witt likely having third base
Chris Bryant getting to
Corse Field
I think third base is
it's going to be okay
yeah
we you know
you mentioned it
like you know
things are getting better
Josh Donaldson
traded over to the Yankees
I mean if you play on Yahoo
Wander Franco's third base eligible
I'm pretty sure
so that that helps too
fair point
Mitch Hanninger
while we were talking went for $10
seems like a
very fair value for
for Hanniger
discount so we saw Stanton
John Carlos Stanton
go
for, he was discounted a few bucks as well.
So it's that, that's the range right there.
I don't know where that is in my,
I guess right around pick 100 in my rank.
Yeah.
This is where we're seeing the discounts applied.
Ozuna for nine, I have him 119 overall, I think.
So probably that same type of range.
Cruise for nine is a little bit of a premium, I think.
Thank you, Chris.
Relative.
I expected him to go for less.
But I haven't projected for 10.
He went for 9.
But now I'm looking for players who go for under what I project them for, like well under.
All right.
Nelson Cruz.
I've got Nelson Cruz for 11.
And I snagged him up for 9.
Can he play third base?
I don't think so.
And Charlie Blackman.
Chris throws him out there for two bucks.
Might win him, Chris.
I hope that's what you want.
Again, trying to do the AJ Pollock, see if I can sneak him through and, you know,
lock in some price certainty for a player who I think is going to be,
ah, someone jumped in for three.
Oh, didn't reset.
That was weird, yeah.
I wasn't going to go four.
I can't imagine anyone else's, so it's fine.
But I would have been happy to get Charlie Blackman for two.
He went for three.
Perfectly fine to let him go to.
All right.
But I do think Charlie Blackman's going to hit 275 to 280.
He's probably going to score a decent amount of runs.
I don't think I already get a ton else from him.
But, you know, you can do a lot worse for a $2 player.
Chris, are you only targeting outfielders that are over 35 years old?
No, no, no.
Montanodo's young.
I know, yeah, but Marcelo's going to's not 35.
You got Pollack, right?
Yeah, I don't, is George Springer 35?
He's only 32.
See?
All right.
I only have one under 30, but only one over 35, too.
All right.
It balances out.
You know, you got Wantsoto in there, so definitely helps.
All right, Willie Adonis is out there for $9.
He's now up to $10, $11, $12.
Yeah, that's, he's not going for a discount either.
This won't be like the head-to-head points version where he went for $3.
Not 12 is what he goes for, so.
12.
All right.
I had the $11 bid, and somebody went just one more than I was willing to do.
Yep.
Okay.
And we all have them for $12 on the site.
So there you go.
Solid.
All right, let's try this one.
Let's try a little, another guy who's been in the news, one Joshua Donaldson.
You know, Josh Donaldson's been in the news.
Have you seen this?
Have you heard about this?
The perception is his value is improved with the Yankees.
I'm not so sure that's true.
But it does, that seems to be where the consensus is right now.
So there was a jump bid straight to five after I nominated him.
I have him projected for four.
I've gotten for seven, but, you know, obviously once you're talking about, you know, 115 picks, what happened again?
Another.
Did you want to go up up to eight, Frank, on Donaldson?
I might have.
Be honest.
Yeah, I might have.
Yeah, I just saw it happen so fast.
So I know it didn't reset.
But this is turning out to be a great advertisement for our salary cap draft program here.
So we're going to redo.
We're going to redo Donaldson here.
All right.
We'll throw him out.
Joshie, boy.
Here he is.
Here he is.
Don't let me down, Frank.
Go straight to eight.
All right.
Um, should I?
Oh, okay.
I'll throw them out.
I'll throw them out to eight.
I'll put him out of eight.
And if anyone else wants him, he's yours.
Any takers for nine?
No.
All right.
I'm all right with that.
I have Josh Donaldson exactly at $8 in the rankings.
And he will be my starting third baseman.
Don't love it, but we shall see.
Speaking of third base, Max Muncie just thrown out there, started at third base on Monday.
It made his spring training debut for the Dodgers.
Check out what he did.
But third base, so they're really putting that arm to the test.
They sure are.
It's his non-throwing arm.
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
Yeah.
I don't know that they, I don't know, I mean, I guess they want him to get some practice in the field leading up to the start of the season.
So they can use him there if they need to.
But they don't really need to use him there anymore because they have.
Freddie Freeman at first, obviously,
and one of Chris Taylor and Gavin Lux
is going to be in the lineup every day at second base, right?
So, I don't know,
it sounds like Muncie will only have to play the field occasionally.
Yeah, Universal DH now with the Dodgers,
and Max Muncie goes for $10.
Mentioned he made his debut on Monday.
He went 0 for 1 with a walk and a strikeout.
I haven't seen anything bad about him.
so I'm going to assume that he came away okay so far.
And Jose Abrae is the next player thrown out there.
We are approaching two hours in.
And I have, man, I have Donaldson and Nelson Cruz.
Those are two old guys on the same team.
Things went a little sideways here.
Jose Abraeus up to 11.
Chris is in
kind of
see a high
he is
surging past 15
so not a discount
there either
I've got him
for 22
okay
but not
willing to go to 16
at this point in the draft
seems like a very
fair price
I do need to keep
some powder dry
because I don't have any speed
so that's
you know something
that I'm going to have to
keep in mind
I should
have gone an extra dollar on Outerbohromed to see.
I wasn't paying close enough attention.
Jose Ibrahim, again, went for 15.
I've got him at 17.
Scott at 18.
Chris has him at 22.
Goodbye for RJ White.
At this point, when I see a name like
Josh Rojas nominated, I know it's Jason
Austin who nominated him.
I don't even have to look.
Does he only have $1 bids available?
He's got a max bit of five.
Oof.
Same thing for...
But he only has three lineups
spots left, so...
Gotcha.
Yeah?
All right, yeah.
Christian Yelich,
thrown out there.
Next name up?
It's a mixed bag
because he's won a lot of
those low-end $1 players
by throwing them out there.
So,
so, you know,
just because he has a full lineup
at this point and not much money,
it doesn't mean he has a lineup
full of studs.
Yeah.
Unfortunately for him.
All right.
Yelich is,
up to 12 bucks.
Scott is in. Chris is in.
Chris now at 13.
I have the rankings up
so I know exactly how much he's worth.
And boom.
Chris gets him for $13.
How do you feel, Chris?
That's a discount for me.
I've got him as an $18 player, but I am
higher on Christian Yalich
than pretty much anyone.
I am, I think the only
person I've broken the fantasy
baseball community's unspoken
pledge to rank Christian Yowich and Cody
Ballinger back to back. I have
Christian Yolich about a round
higher than Cody Bellinger, but
yeah. I wish it had been a little cheaper than 13 at this point.
ADP has them about a round apart, so.
But Bellinger's ahead, right?
I think Yelich is ahead. It could be wrong.
But yeah, I kind of wish I had gone
14 there. I was hedging
looking at the
hitter options remaining.
There are still a handful that
better than Yelich, but it's unlikely
I'm going to have the funds for them. It's unlikely
they're going to go for less than 14, that's for sure.
And, you know,
none of them probably have the upside he does.
Lake Trinan went for eight bucks
while we were talking to it. That was a really good buy.
That was a really good buy. Yeah, I like
that. I think Taylor Rogers
earlier went for 10 or something.
I'm trying to bid, just letting you know.
All right, there you go. Goes through.
Yeah, I was trying to, too. But
I don't know that I want to go 11.
So you got that $10 bid in first, Frank,
for Cody Bellinger.
Oh,
snipe at the last man.
You should go 12.
That's your guy.
Come on.
I went 13.
It's only right.
And so far,
so good.
Will anyone in?
Anybody else?
Jump in?
No.
All right.
I get Cody Bellinger for 12 buckaroos.
And these are guys,
these are other players
who are right around pick 100.
So I think we found the range
like 70.
five to 100, they still tend to go for face value.
Okay, Fran Moul reus.
Go ahead, Scott. What are you going to say?
Here's where the discounts are being applied.
Fram Moraes is at 7.
For reference, I won Nelson Cruz at 9.
So these are, you know, outside of Otani,
these are the other two util only bats
that you're really focused on in the top 150 or so.
Fram Moraeus now up to 10.
Going once.
Going twice.
I'm actually a little bit surprised
if Framareas didn't end up being
cheaper than that
because he just feels
a little overlooked this season.
Chris, who would you rather have
Fran Mill Reyes or Nelson Cruz?
They went for, you know,
10 and $9 respectively.
I do have Nelson Cruz a little bit higher.
But I think both are great.
I think there's more upside
for Nelson Cruz and batting average
is the big difference.
All right, Brandon Belt.
was starting out there for a dollar, now up to three.
I assume he'll be someone's corner infielder.
And solid pickup.
And sold for three.
Yeah, look, when he is on the field, he's great.
Brandon Belt.
So, like the Giants have done with many other players,
the past couple seasons,
they've been able to get the most out of Brandon Belt,
Brandon Crawford.
As long as your name is Brandon, you should be alright.
Gons-Money Grandal is now up.
And,
Scott, you won
For a second,
it looked like he was going to be
a little bit of a discount.
Scott,
you won Varsho for 10, right?
Okay.
Just for reference,
because I feel like these two go
around each other
in terms of ADP.
And Grandal
goes for nine to me.
Yay.
All right.
So this is going to right.
I've got Grandal.
I've got Pete Alonzo,
Catel Marte,
Josh Donaldson.
Trevor Story, Cody Bellinger, Luis Robert, Nelson Cruz.
I've only got two pitchers, though.
Lucas Geolito and Riceley-Glaecious.
So we'll work on that.
And Jack Flaherty.
Chris, you threw him out there for three bucks?
I think you're, are you muted?
Yeah, I think you're muted.
No, I got, I put in a four and it didn't take it.
So I think a lot of people were locked out.
Yep, $3.
Is not the most I would be willing to go for Jack Flaherty,
but I probably not much more than that.
I think at this point,
I mean, we learned that he's been pitching through a,
what was a scapular injury in his shoulder?
It's cold us.
In addition to having a, in addition to having a PRP
injection in his lap recently.
So we know he's starting the season on the IL.
I think there's a very, very high risk of the season
just completely imploding on Jack Flaherty,
but obviously there's upside.
Yeah, it's scary.
It's scary time right now for Jack Flaherty.
And we're going to redo that bit and we'll let you know
how much he goes for.
I accidentally close the draft room.
So I was trying to get the draft room configured here.
Chris, if you could nominate Flaherty for three.
But you guys mentioned the tear that was discovered
in his shoulder. He's saying he's had that
for years and it's nothing new.
And he's kind of perturbed that the Cardinals
reported it as a tear
in his shoulder.
I don't know if you just
covered that, but I would
get that that would perturb him.
But it's not the kind
of thing that we can just overlook, I don't think.
Yeah. All right, he's up to
$6 now.
I believe Tim Kanek, who does a lot of
drafts with us, I think he's a Cardinals fan.
I could be wrong.
but I feel like he's always going after Goldie.
I think he drafted Aronado.
Tim, if you're watching, let us know in the chat.
You're a Cardinals fan.
Jack Flaredy goes for six bucks,
and now Chris Sale is up.
So back-to-back, risky, you know,
some risk reward here, starting pitchers.
Chris Sale dealing with a stress fracture in his rib.
We don't really know exactly what the timetable is for him.
But he will start to hear.
Chris Sail than Jack Flaherty at this point,
personally.
And sale goes for five bucks, so $1 less than Jack Flaherty.
You know, I think I'd still rather have Flaherty,
but for this particular draft, I don't want either.
There are so many starting pitchers out there still.
Yep.
There's actually a decent number of high-impact players still left.
Frank, you ready?
Uh-oh, don't do it.
Here comes the money.
Here comes the money.
Here comes the money
Here we go
Money talks
Whoa
Geez
Jumping
For 16
One to 16
All right
I mean you could have them
Bud
You're out
I'm out
I barely had time
To play the little tune there
Yeah
Wow that went fast
Well good knowing you Shane McClanhan
But geez
All right winds up going for 16
To Tim who does confirm
That he is a Cardinals fan
So I know he likes Flaherty, McClanahan quite a bit.
We usually...
Where do you guys have McClanahan in terms of dollars?
12.
I'll check it out.
I have him as a top of 30 starting pitcher.
So let's see what that comes out to.
I have him for 15.
So he went for 16.
$1 more than I'm willing to spend.
There's just a few other pitchers out there
that I want to target before I get to McClanahan,
which I no longer can get, of course.
Jonathan, India.
is out there for nine
and that's a pretty damn good price.
Go, Scotty, go.
That's a good one.
Got some more steals, baby.
Piling up those 10 to 12 steals.
You've got a lot of those guys, Scott.
I know.
What am I doing?
I don't know.
I'm going to move Fernando Tatis to my bench
so I don't get confused
and think I already have an extra shortstop.
Although you won't be able to bid
on that, right?
Yeah, I guess so, right?
Because the bidding is only for your starting roster,
and then we'll do a reserve draft right after this end.
So I think you've got to leave them somewhere in the lineup.
All right.
I'll leave them.
I'll stick them.
Where do you go?
No, I'll stick them in the outfield.
All right.
Tommy Edmund is the next one up.
I don't know if, I don't know if the room will force me to do what you guys are saying.
But I'll do it just for the sake of the draft results.
Tommy Edmund is currently out there for $8.
to Chris
who needs some speed
he has a need
and he has
oh
ooh ho ho
all right
Raz B Don went in for nine
and then Chris back in for 10
okay
and will it go down
it does
all right Chris
I don't I don't like
Tommy Edmund
but yeah I'm
one I don't have a second
baseman
which is not as big of a concern
but two I just
just, I do need steals.
And I don't think he's going to steal 30 bases again,
but I think he's a pretty solid bet for 20.
And him and Yalich are the only players I feel confident
will have more than 10 right now on my roster.
So, yeah.
All righty. Colton Wong is the next one up.
And, oh, I had a $3 bill.
He's a guy who could steal 10 plus bases.
Oh, yeah. He can go 15-15.
It's definitely possible.
That's a solid buy.
Holdenwong such a weird player.
If you look at his career lines,
it's like he's a different player every year.
Oh, yeah.
He's bounced all over the place.
It's so strange.
He was a solid player the last year for the Brewers.
Yeah, he was 272, 14 homers, 12 steals.
Two years before that, he was 24 steals, 11 home runs.
He's had some years where he's been a good batting average guy.
He's had some years where he's walked a ton.
It's like, there's a,
Xander Bogartz was like that earlier in his career where he just kind of did something different every year.
obviously a much different caliber of player there.
Yeah, and what Colton Wong did last year.
The 14 homers, 12 steals for Colton Wong.
He did that in only 116 games.
So if this guy could stay healthy for 150, I mean, you know, he could be 18 and 15, 20,
maybe 2015, something like that.
Nick Castellanos is out there right now,
recently signed with the Philadelphia Phillies.
And much like Trevor's story, outside of going back
to Cincinnati, winding up with the Philadelphia Phillies, might have been the best landing
spot for Nick Cassiano's.
That's the best value of the draft, $15 for Nick Castianos.
I've got him as a $26 player.
Wow.
Even if you guys aren't as high as him.
Yeah, that's a great buy.
Yeah, I was tempted to go 16, but that's really stretching me thin for half my team if I did
that.
And this is the unique part of a salary cap and auction draft.
where I'm with you, Scott, like, same thing.
I wanted to go 16 on Nick Cassiano's,
but I've got some money budgeted for pitchers,
and pitchers are just not being thrown out right now.
I don't have any other outfield spots left.
Kenley Jansen now up to $10, and that's a good buy.
So the fringe closers earlier on in the draft,
they were inflated,
and now some of the closers going at this point
are going for very good value.
So Kenley Jansen goes for the same prices.
Taylor Rogers went earlier on in the draft.
It's kind of a flattening of the value of closers, basically, where.
Yeah, the Ricella Iglesias is an Emanuel Class A's.
They do go for a little more, but not the difference between them and the mid-tier and the bottom tier
isn't as wide as you see in like a snake draft.
All right, just through Justin Verlander out there, let's get some pitchers on the board here, man,
because it feels like a while since.
A lot of great pitchers left still.
Yeah, like we had that little run.
of Flaherty sale in McClain-Han, but
yeah, there's a lot of good pitchers
left. We need pitching.
I need pitching.
But
you're not going to be a discount on Justin Verlander, and there probably
shouldn't be. I mean, the way he looked in his first spring start
throwing the averaging 95 with his fastball,
he was basically, looked like he did
in 2015 or 2019 in that regard.
Throwing just as hard at 39 as he did at 36.
Yeah, and he goes for...
Which is the first big question that he had,
answer. And he goes for $16, which, look, Scott is the highest one of all of us in terms of ranking
Justin Verlander, 79th overall, and he has him for $16. So that's about right. Yeah, I'm at a point here
where I think I'm only going to buy players who are discounted, which there are sure to be players
who are discounted. O'Neill Cruz is out there. Guy hit another, just a golf shot on Monday. I mean,
he's fun. He is fun. The power is.
stupid easy for him.
Like it's,
it's completely effortless.
Man.
You know,
I don't know if he's going to be able
to put that into action in games.
He,
his career has been very hit or miss in that regard,
but yeah,
broke out last year though.
Yeah.
And the underlying numbers are all,
you know,
from what we've heard from the minors,
from what he did in his very brief major league stint last season.
He seems to be in that.
Stanton judge.
Vlad Jr. raw power range,
like legitimate 70 plus grade raw power.
And so I want it for seven,
which also gives me some stolen base potential.
Yeah.
The big question is when he's going to be up.
So I've been pouring over
Beat Rider articles for every team.
And the consensus among the Pirates Beat Riders
is that it's probably not going to be on the opening day roster,
which is silly.
but that is often the way it goes,
how long the pirates will be able to keep them down
or if Cruz hits like four more homers
before the opening day gets here,
can they justify keeping them down at all?
I think it's fair to wonder.
I just put out my top 30 position battles
for spring training for fancy baseball purposes,
that Pirate Shortstop was number one.
That's the one I'm watching.
The thing is, it's not actually a position battle.
It's O'Neill Cruz versus the,
the pirate's willingness to call him up.
He has played only like six games at AAA.
So there is certainly a development argument to make against calling him up.
But yeah, I mean, if he has a monster spring, if it continues to have a monster spring,
there's not a, there's not a like, is this guy better than him argument?
The pirates don't have a reasonable option at the.
shortstop position that they could play over him. Right.
All right. While we were talking, Hassan Kim went for $3. Luis Reyes went for two.
And Jazz Chisholm is currently up. And he is up to $12 thus far. And if you need speed at this
point, definitely makes sense to be in on him. And that's exactly what Chris needs. He needs some
speed. And will you win him for $13? There you go.
technically a discount on what I have him for.
I just dropped $30 in the span of about six players on Jazz Chisholm,
O'Neill Cruz, and Tommy Edmunds.
So that's not enough speed for me to win,
but it's probably enough for me to stop worrying about it too much, hopefully.
Yeah, I was with you on Cruise.
You know, I was debating.
How high would you have gone for Cruz, Chris?
Probably not much more than seven.
I mean, I've got him ranked really high,
and he's still a $7 player.
You know, I've got him in the top $150.
So I don't think I would have gone that much further.
But look, there aren't a lot of stolen base threats left,
and pretty much all of them are outfielder at this point.
And I can only draft one more outfielder.
Right.
So, you know.
All right.
Well, Eddie Rosario goes for $4.
And now Mitch Garver is up.
Mitch Garver traded to the Texas Rangers.
Hopefully we don't worry as much about playing time anymore.
And, you know, still trying to figure out the park,
global eye field.
How does it play overall?
But I don't think it would matter for his level of power.
Like, he hits shots.
It certainly doesn't matter for his level of power
relative to other catchers,
which I think is the most important.
way of looking at him.
$7.
Frank,
you won Mitch Garver for,
which is fine.
That was a case of,
I nominated Garver,
even though I already have
Salvador Perez and Dalton Varsho.
So that was a case of me
just throwing out a guy,
I know I'm not going to win.
Right.
But I know,
but like,
it'll certainly go for more than a dollar
just so I can drain people
of money that they might spend
on a player I do want to win.
Yeah,
no,
it's smart.
I've got two catchers now.
I spent $16
total on Garver and Yasm
Monty Grandal.
And now you Darvish is out there.
And we need some pitchers.
Come on.
Someone, not many pitchers.
Darvish is up to 10.
Double digits.
How high will he go?
Scott, he's got him for 11.
And now 12.
I was afraid of that.
Will Scott go 13?
And he will.
He will.
He will.
I should have just gone straight to 12.
instead of going to 11.
And you know what's so funny, Scott,
when you mentioned earlier,
you bid $12 on Pablo Lopez,
and you said,
you know,
Darvish might go for $12 later on.
I did say that.
It goes for $1.
So I guess I can't feel bad
about getting him for $13.
Right.
So the best pitchers who are left
and are better than Darvish,
there are a few still.
Lynn.
I've got Barrios, Lynn,
Musgrove, Peralta.
Castillo and Rodon,
I have ahead of him as well.
So here's one nominated right now.
Lance Lynn,
we'll see how much,
if he does go for more than 13.
Oof.
And there's a jump bid to 13.
Yeah.
RJ,
RJ's probably watching.
Uh,
that's sneaky RJ.
Because he was,
I feel like RJ was price enforcing me on,
on jazz as well.
Oh.
Oh.
And will he get him?
I think so.
Lance Lynn goes for $15 to RJ,
away.
So I kind of like the idea
of Darvish here because
however his season
plays out, he's going to have a
ton of strikeouts.
I think the way I've
the way I'm constructing my pitching staff where I'm
not going to have many high end arms,
like strikeouts is the category
that's going to suffer the most because of that.
So I think he's a good fit
for like my specific team build
even though obviously there are
question marks. All right. Nixon
Zell goes for $2.
And he's part of, I guess you can call it a position battle in Cincinnati.
They have four spots for, I believe, six players.
They have three outfield spots.
And the D.H.
Aristides Aquino is involved.
Jake Fraley, who they acquired in the winker trade.
Nixon Zell is there.
So we shall see.
It's a good ballpark still to hit in.
So could have some deep sleeper appeal with one Nixon Zell or Arrstida
is Sikina. Chris Bassett is up.
And he is up to $8.
Now with the New York Mets.
Which is not a bad place to end up.
It's, you know,
it's not an amazing pitchers park,
but it's certainly not a gigantic downgrade from Oakland.
And Chris Bassett goes for $10.
And we mentioned when the trade happened,
in his career, Chris Bassett has had much better numbers at home
in Oco versus compared to the road.
but again, it's not like a major downgrade in terms of park.
City field is still a good place to pitch.
So solid landing spot there for Chris Bassett.
And now Edwin Diaz is out there.
Who's the most recent closer that went?
Kenley Jansen.
Kenley Janssen went for $10.
And Edwin Diaz has surpassed that, which makes sense.
I think he's uniformly ranked ahead of Kenley Jansen.
I have him pretty much.
Back to back.
Oh.
Diaz is upside.
It's higher.
Yeah.
And Diaz goes for $12.
Which again, like the closers at this point are going for much better values.
It's good values.
To me, Diaz is in a similar tier as Class A.
And Class A went for, I think it was like $16 earlier.
So I put him in the queue instead of nominating him.
All right.
I nominated Freddie Peralta.
Get some more pitchers out there.
I'm hoping he pushes 20,
because if he doesn't,
I'm going to feel bad about that Darvish bid.
Oh, jump in to 13, 14, 15.
15 to RJ White.
Now up to 16, 17.
All right, Scott.
Yeah.
You're feeling around.
You're feeling right.
You're feeling right.
Exhale.
And I jump in at 19.
So you knew all along, Frank.
Oh, yeah.
You were in on this.
Is he?
your top remaining pitcher?
Oh, geez.
Consensus-wise, he is.
He's not for me.
Who is for you, Chris?
I have Joe Musgrove just ever so slightly.
I have him, mostly because of workload.
I've never heard you say anything positive
about Joe Musgrove ever.
That's fair.
I wound up with Freddie Peralta for $21 here.
More than I wanted to spend on him.
He's my SP2.
I've got him and Lucas Gilles.
Alito.
But I like
47 on Geolito and
Peralta.
Yes.
And you spent, what,
56?
54 on Gossman and
and Scherzer.
Okay.
Yeah, again,
like I said,
you spent, I think,
exactly 21 on
Gossman.
On Gossman as well, right?
Yeah,
so we paid the same price for Peralta,
and I have Peralta
ranked the highest of all of us.
I think he's like 15th or 16th.
So you worry about the endings,
but
Man, the stuff, stuff is filthy.
Fastball Freddy no more.
Reese Hoskins is up.
Four pitch Freddy.
Even.
Four pitch Freddy.
Isn't that what he is?
I know he's got the slider and the curve.
Let me throw a change up occasionally?
Might be it.
Might be like a sub 5% pitch for him.
Let's see.
I'm willing to go $9 on a first baseman,
and I could have got Reese Hoskins for nine just then.
I'm not sure.
that was the first basement I wanted to go nine on.
Okay.
There were,
there,
there are still better ones.
Uh,
Freddie Peralta.
10% of the time through a change up last year.
That's pretty good.
Four pitch,
Freddie.
I like the sound of,
four pitch,
Freddie.
Adam,
weight rights up.
No surprise.
Scott's got the top bid,
seven bucks.
And going once,
going twice.
God.
Scottie gets him.
Seven bucks.
Happy with that.
Happy with that.
All right.
Let's check in on the team, Scott.
We haven't looked in in a little while.
You've got two catchers.
You got Perez and Varsho.
You got Jonathan India for nine.
Devers for 35.
Baez for 15.
Teoska Hernandez for 25.
Reynolds for 16.
Tatis for 17.
Now, Eloy Jimenez is thrown out there.
And then you've got four pitchers.
You got Adam Wainwright,
Zach Wheeler, U.
Darvish, and Pablo Lopez.
Yeah, I haven't had a freak out yet.
It's very good for me.
Not yet.
Under delivering to our audience.
We've got to keep going then.
I mean, we've got to keep going until we get at least one.
One Scott meltdown.
I came close at the very start when we got through all the first round hitters
and I hadn't purchased one yet.
So Scott has like one fringe-ish first rounder,
but you're definitely going more for a balanced approach
rather than any kind of stars at scrubs.
Yeah, I mean, there are going to be some scrubs.
on my team still.
Because I got a lot of like...
Like I didn't mean to imply that there wouldn't be scrubs.
I got a lot of like round three through seven players and could get more of those still.
But yeah, it's not necessarily the way I wanted to do it, but that's that's where you have to read the room and adjust mid-flight.
It's like we talked about when was that?
talking about Tuesday.
Chris, you won't...
You won David Fletcher for a buck.
I just screwed up big time.
That's a disaster.
Why did you do that?
I just used my D.H. spot on David Fletcher.
That is a disaster.
Oh, my God.
Do you think somebody was going to bid you up?
Was that the thinking?
Or did you just...
I just didn't think about the fact that I had already filled up my middle infield spot.
Oh.
Oh, geez.
Man, that is.
Oh, no, you can't do that.
Never mind.
All right, who had Chris freaking out before Scott?
I was going to say, you can move Tommy Edmund to the outfield, but you can't because you feel your outfield.
I can't.
My point, yeah.
No, this is.
Oh, wait.
No, I can't.
No.
Oh, man.
All right, so here's what's happening.
I'm screwed.
I mentioned pitchers weren't thrown out for a long time.
And it feels like now everyone was.
waiting for these pitchers collectively.
And now they're going for
maybe even too much money. So Dylan Sees
goes for 19. I spent 21
on Freddie Peralta. It's more than I wanted
to spend on him. So we're all kind of
doing the same thing. We're waiting for pitchers to get thrown
out there and they're going for a lot.
So Dylan Sees
for 19. I don't think I mentioned it,
but Eli Jimenez went for 15.
It's a great price. It's just
right now I can't afford to jump in on
a $15 outfielder. I need more
pitching. So,
I could not bid on my man
Eloy Jimenez, unfortunately.
Did get him on Toulouse though.
Happy about that.
DJ LaMayhew, you know, we haven't talked
about DJ LaMayhew recently,
and the Yankees kind of have
a log jam going on
because they've got
Glabre at second.
They have
Isaiah Connor Fletford at short.
They've got Josh Donaldson at third.
They have Anthony Rizzo now at first base.
Stanton will
probably move between left field and DH.
I mean, is DJ LaMahue just going to be like a utility guy to start the season?
If they don't trade somebody?
It seems weird.
Yeah, it seems like he'd have to be right unless they're planning to DH Donaldson some
and play Stanton in the outfield, which would force one of Judge or Gallo into centerfield.
I mean, who's their projected center fielder right now?
Aaron Hicks?
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
That's terrible.
Judge and Gallo are capable of playing center field.
I just don't know how often they actually want to do that.
Yeah.
And I don't think Aaron Hicks is so bad.
Come on, Scott.
You were a little mean about it, you know?
Well, it's most, it's, you can't rely.
Like, that can't be your primary answer.
Yeah.
At center field at this point.
And they probably, given how much he's struggled to stay healthy.
Yeah, I don't think they want to play him every day either.
So it's a fair point.
But.
Yeah, I'm a little worried about DJ Limit.
Like, DJ Lemmy, he's going to play a ton.
But if he doesn't play.
every single day, given that he's already, you know, you're really counting on, you're relying on
counting stats with him because there's not much power probably and there's not much speed.
It could be a problem for his fantasy value. So I have, I have almost zero interest in DJ LaMehew at
this point. All right. LaMehue went for three bucks. Joey Vado was the next buy at $10.
And now Jose Burrios is out there at 19, which.
Makes sense.
That $13 bid on you, Darvish, is turning out okay.
Yep.
However, I will say Joey Votto going for 10
makes me a little more nervous about passing up
Reese Hoskins for 9 because I wasn't willing to go 11 on Votto.
So, first base, it's getting a little scary for me.
It started when I didn't win Freddie Freeman
and has continued throughout the salary draft.
All right, CJ Abrams, one of the top prospects in the Padres organization goes for $2,
and he's already got two home runs in spring training.
I know that there's a Tati's injury.
I don't think that they're going to, look, the Padres have been an aggressive organization with their prospects.
I don't think that they're going to rush him just because of the Tatee's injury,
but maybe they prove me wrong.
Who knows?
Hassan Kim, I'm not sure there's anything there, you know?
Right.
I think it's worth
you know giving one more
you know look
it was his first year in the States last season
so I don't want to write him off
but yeah the
what we saw last year was not
there wasn't much promising about it
defensively
he was good
and Lordus Gueriel
goes to me for $6
which I'm very happy with
yeah
Mm-hmm.
Solid buy.
I wrote them down for...
Not better than David Fletcher for a dollar.
I wrote them down for 8 to 10, so I was...
I'm ashamed spiraling, guys.
Anthony Ritzell is the next player out there for a dollar.
Yeah, I was about to say someone bid too.
I think Chris was a little too gleeful at the prospect of the Scott White meltdown.
So now this is karma.
This is karma.
It feels carmick for sure.
I've got $35 left, and I've got a lot of pitcher spots.
so I think I probably got to cool it with the hitters.
And Anthony Rezzo is up.
He's going for about $4.
Chris, let's check in on your team.
I think we're probably going to wrap up the podcast side of things.
We'll keep rolling here on YouTube.
But let's check it on your team here, Chris, and see what you got.
No catchers, no first base, but you've got Tommy Edmund for 10.
Manny Machado at 32.
O'Neill Cruz is your shortstop at 7.
Jazz Chisholm is your middle infielder.
I guess those are interchangeable for 13.
Then you've got Pollack for two, Yelich for 13, Springer for 28,
Marcel Lozuna for 9, Juan Soto for 44,
and then David Fletcher as your utility bat for a...
You know what it was, is just I went through a period
where I was adding guys to my queue for speed,
and then I drafted three of them,
and just I'm sort of absent-minded at times, guys,
and it came back to bite me.
All right, and you've got Max Scherzer for 33,
and Kevin Gossman for 21.
So two pitchers thus far for $54 combined, as you mentioned.
And hey, that's what you said you like to do.
You want to get two aces and then, you know, fill in the rest of your spots for about 30 bucks.
And it seems like that's probably what you're going to have to do here, Chris.
It's easy to be absent-minded when you're podcasting while it's happening.
One hundred percent.
Yeah.
I remember just got too cute.
Just one of the first time.
we broadcasted a mock draft like this
very long time ago, like over 10 years ago.
I'd like filled my shortstop spot
with Hanley Ramirez or Troy Tulawitzkis
somebody really early on.
And then I
kind of reached for Stephen Drew
later on. And I was
so mad. And the fact that
I remember that all these years later
tells you just how mad I was.
Let's hit one more
salary cap draft story before
we'd wrap up here. I'll never forget
Scott, when I was just listening to the podcast, the, the, the, the U versus Nando
Defino for, for Jed Jerko, and you were, you were trying to price him up because you knew he
loved Jed Jerko. And then I think you wound up with him for like 18 or $20 or something like that.
It was, oh, man, that was, yeah, it was fun to listen to at the time, man. It was great stuff.
Yeah, that was, that was definitely memorable. And the thing about it is, it wasn't just I knew
Nando loved Jed Jerko.
I knew Nando.
And I knew when he loved somebody,
he would stop at nothing to get him.
And I was kind of like flaunting it in his face and everything.
And he totally...
And what also made it so bad is
I went with this really aggressive strategy early on
and spent like a combined $120 on Mike Trout and Miguel Cabrera,
the top two players at the time.
So I had to be really careful with my bidding from there on out.
And I go and spend like $24 on.
Jed Jerko. It was a disaster.
Let's catch everybody up. After I got Gurriel for six, Anthony Rizzo goes for five,
Blake Snell goes for 12. R.J. through Joe Adele out for two. I had the quick bit at
three. I thought I would get him. Tim Kannick sneaks in, gets Joe Adele for four.
And I wanted Adele, but again, got to save my money for pitching. So I don't know. Maybe I'll
regret it. He hit a bomb over the weekend. So good to see there from our guy.
Joe Adele. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to wrap up on the podcast side of things.
This will be part two. But if you are listening and you want to find out the results,
the rest of what we've got going on with the salary cap draft, you can check us on
YouTube. We're going to keep it rolling there. Scott, will the results be on the website as well?
Yeah, they should be by Tuesday morning.
All right. So we've covered a lot of players thus far. But if you want to see the rest of
the results, you can find them on the site or again on YouTube. We're going to wrap up
the podcast feed there. Hour 2 is in the books.
And we'll be back again tomorrow.
Bye-bye.
