Fantasy Baseball Today - Live Roto Salary Cap Draft Part 2! Mid-Late Round Bids & Strategy (3/22 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: March 22, 2022

Let's continue on with the second hour of our live Salary Cap draft! How much did low-mid tier closers go for? How much did prospects like Riley Greene and Spencer Torkelson go for? Why did pitching g...et pushed up? 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Now here's Frank, Scott, and Chris. All right, we are into our two here in our salary cap draft, and let's get caught up on the latest. Oh, we've got a big spender.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Carlos Hernandez went for $1. It was a very late-round sleeper candidate for the Kansas City Royals. I don't even know if he's going to be in the rotation. Somewhat interesting. He is kind of interesting. He throws hard. He's got a few different pitches.
Starting point is 00:00:48 It looked good after. It's always interesting when a guy transitions from the bullpen to the rotation and sustained their velocity gains. I remember, actually speaking of the Royals, it was Danny Duffy, who made a similar transition when he had his, was his second breakout when he was,
Starting point is 00:01:06 they had kind of given up on him. They moved into the bullpen all of a sudden. he was throwing like 96, he moves back into the rotation and sustained it. So that's a potential undervalued aspect of pitching. This has been a real slow grind here for Wander Franco. He started slowing down in the mid-teens, and I thought he was going to go for a really good discount, but slowly climbing up there, made his way to...
Starting point is 00:01:32 Pretty much right bit where he belongs, $20 is what he goes for. Made it up to $20. I've got him at $17, so a little... Little pricier than I would go, but I'm down on him a little bit in this format specifically. Yep. Again, how much is he going to run? What's the power like his first full season in the majors? I get it. They're our question marks. Like, you know who might be a pretty good comp for him actually is Brian Reynolds. And Brian Reynolds ended up going for what, 16 to Scott?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah. You know, obviously Franco has more upside. If, you know, he makes a big leap. But I think the likelier outcome this season is that Brian Reynolds is better based on what we've seen from him. You know, that's an interesting one. I'm not personally willing to pay the premium for Wanderfranco this season, I guess. I am willing to do it in a points league for sure. The plate discipline is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He's going to walk quite a bit. Should hit more doubles than home runs you would expect. Okay, I thought I was about to win Zander Bogart's for 15 bucks. I threw him out there and I'm like, I don't even want him. I just wanted to start the bidding a little bit higher. So please, somebody, I mean, I would have taken him for 15. everybody's in the same boat because this is some reluctant bidding. Oh, geez, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah, come on, Chris. Everybody's plan didn't include Zander Bogart. Somebody, get in there. They're getting in there. He's up to 20 now. So he's at least going for what Wander Franco did. This is so tough because I've got him as a $21 player. It's a good discount.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Zander Bogart's going for the same price as Wander Franco is like, I know it's a salary cap draft and things happen, but that is like the best possible example of Wanderfranco could be anything he could be even be Zander Bogart's. Like, Xander Bogart's... I think the likely scenario is he is Zander Bogarts this year, for what it's worth.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Ooh. I think that's really underselling Xander Bogarts. I mean... I know he wasn't great in the second half last season, but Zander Bogart's like, he's hit like 294 years in a row. I think Wander Franco's an easy pencil him in for 290 kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Absolutely. As little as he strikes out? Yeah. I think batting average is very safe for him. And 20 Homer power, Like 20 to 25 homer power. That's what I think Bogart's is with the new ball because he hit 23 last year.
Starting point is 00:03:44 His exit velocity is pretty middling. So I see him as 2025 homer guy. I don't think that's too much of a stretch for... It's worth pointing out. Zander Bogartz, over the last four seasons, he took a big step forward in 2018. His 162 game pace, which, you know, obviously there are fraught issues with using full season paces,
Starting point is 00:04:05 but in his case, we're talking about the, COVID season being the main thing holding his overall numbered back. 299, 30 homers, 102 runs, 108 RBI, 8 steals. Yes, maybe the 33 homers in 2019 and the 28 to 30 homer pace in 2020 kind of stand out a little bit. But that feels really aggressive with Wander Franco, I would say. I think you're just a hater, Chris. I think you're a Wander Franco hater.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I think you're a Zander Bogart hater. I think he's going to make it a little. L.A. Jander Bogartz is awesome. I don't understand. He's a great player, but his power is, he's not going to give you big power numbers in all likelihood. You guys are just haters.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Everyone hates on Zander Bogartz. All right, let's catch people up. Since Zander Bogartz went for $20, Adam Duval went for $4. Scotty snuck in there with a little Javier Baez for $15. And then Shane Bieber goes for $29. So $1 less than Walker Bueller and $2 less and Jacob de Grom, which, you know, makes sense.
Starting point is 00:05:09 That would make him a late second, probably early third round kind of player. Scott, talk to us about Javier Baez. I think you have him for $17 on the site. Yeah, so I knew I was willing to go 20 on a second baseman, and he was there for 15, a guy who's going to help a little bit in stolen bases. So, you know, I'm actually,
Starting point is 00:05:32 for somebody who's being intentionally unintentional about stolen bases this year, I'm actually doing well and stolen bases in this draft. I got Tatis, I got Teosker Hernandez, I got Baez. You know, I didn't go for Whitmeryfield or Trey Turner or whatever. But if this was a standard snake draft and I had accumulated this many steals up to this point, I would be ahead of my usual pace for sure. All right. Shane Boz went in the meantime.
Starting point is 00:06:00 He went for $4. There was some news about Shane Boz on Monday. Ray's manager, Kevin Cash, told reporters that chain bars underwent arthroscopic surgery on Monday to remove loose bodies from his right elbow and that he will resume throwing in two to three weeks. That seems pretty optimistic for someone who's getting arthroscopic surgery. I mean, I guess it's not, you know, anything too serious, but... Well, is he going to throw in two to three weeks? Really? Really? It's surgery on an elbow. Mookie Betz was dealing with loose bodies in his hip last year. And there's lingering concerns about that. This is a young pitcher, a 22-year-old pitcher who throws close to 100 miles per hour who's having surgery during spring training, even minor surgery.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Like, there's no such thing as minor surgery for a 22-year-old starting pitcher, right? No. I mean, it's pretty scary stuff, Chris. So. Yeah. Yeah, I considered throwing him out there up to five. And I ultimately ended up throwing him out there for three. looks like someone wanted to go for five for
Starting point is 00:07:11 Boz, but he ended up going for four, so I don't know what we're going to do. Looks like we're going to leave it at four. So I think four or five dollars is a reasonable place to end up with a guy, you know, like Shane Boz with that kind of upside. All right. We're going to redo both of the last two here.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Boz for four, went for four. Pablo Lopez went for 21. I think that was a jump bid situation. 21. Geez. Yes. Someone might get saved from their, from their Pablo Lopez bid.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We have to redo Baz anyway because somebody got locked out. So we'll just redo both. All right. And he is at $5. So one more than he went for. Let's see. Here I want to know
Starting point is 00:07:50 what kind of commissioner Scott really is. All right. Lopez should be 21, right? I'm saying we're going to redo both because it was a jump-aid situation. Right, but someone put him out there for 20. That person shouldn't get bailed out.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I'm a nice guy, Chris. Sorry. Wow. It was obviously way too much for Lopez. That's not what Chris said earlier. That's not what he said about you earlier. Somebody made a point to put a $20 bid on Pablo Lopez. Someone else got jump bid on it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I'm just saying. Well, if somebody wants to go 20 on him again, they can. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, it's, I never use the bid up one button. Just because I would be horrified if that happened to me. Right. I only do it when, you know, it's the very end. And I can only go $2 on anybody.
Starting point is 00:08:47 That's like the only time I ever used the bid plus one button. Lopez was, he looked great in his first start of the spring. It was obviously spring training, you know, you don't want to take too much from it. And the concern about him isn't that he's good. I think we all agree that he's good. And CERN is... The shoulder. The shoulder and just his ability to stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And oh my God. Texas is beating Cleveland. Texas just beat Cleveland 25 to 12. In baseball? Yes. Not in March Madness tournament. I was like, what? Oh, now it all makes sense.
Starting point is 00:09:26 All right, so that's why Scott threw Pablo Lopez back because he wanted to win him for 12 bucks. So it all makes sense now. I'm playing the rest of the season under protest. I am. It's a good thing. George Brett running out of the dugout. I've got Lopez for 12.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Scott has him for 12 on the site. Carlos Correa is currently out there for 15. Make it 16. Geez. Now I've never gotten so much backlash for being generous here. Generously stealing other players. God. Charles Carrella is 17.
Starting point is 00:10:04 He's such a nice guy. I let myself get Pablo Lopez for 12. Yeah, it seems like... Whoever bid him 20 on him last time could have done it again. I wasn't going to bid 20. SMH. That's about the right price for Carlos Correa. Scott has him for 17.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I have him for 16. Chris has him for 18. So we're looking at about the right price for Carlos Correa. And now Logan Webb is up. and Scott's jumping in. He's trying to find his pitchers. Yeah. I'm going to let this one go, though.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He's up to 20 now. Oh, yeah. I have him at 21. So that's not really much of a discount. I think we're going to get better discounts here. I don't know. Like, I may regret that Lopez bid. You know, we may see, like, the U.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Darvish's of the world go for 12. U. Darvish had a... I think U.S. had a... pretty awesome start on Monday as well. Pull that up. I believe it was three scoreless innings. Five or six strikeouts, something like that.
Starting point is 00:11:08 So, pull that up, let you know. And yeah, Darvish. Three scoreless, three hits, zero walks, six strikeouts. Pretty good. He was going up against a
Starting point is 00:11:20 not so great Rockies lineup, filled with prospects and young players. So, eh, good on Darvish. See him healthy out there. Oh, this is going to hurt me. No, don't do it. Take it. Do it, Frank. I can't, oh my. You're going to do it? I mean, I can, but
Starting point is 00:11:37 I already, I already, I got story. I got story for 23. I didn't, I didn't want to spend that much. A middle infield spot. Yeah, Lindor, Lindor a little cheaper for Correa, $3 cheaper. That's, that's, that's a good outcome for the person who got Lindor. I wrote down story or Lindor as my shortstop. That's who I wanted. And I spent $23 on story and Lindor goes for 15. Oh, that sucks. The guy who won him is complaining. He didn't want him. Why not?
Starting point is 00:12:08 It's a great price. Went for cheaper than Carlos Correa. Look, the Francisco Indoor hate has gone too far. That's what I will say. I don't think, I haven't heard much hate except for me. And I'm even saying 15 is too low. So maybe this is the beginning of the discounts. Maybe this is where we're seeing all.
Starting point is 00:12:31 that, those overbys. Patrick Corbyn. Earlier coming into play. Patrick Corbyn just went for a dollar to Jason Austin. Wow, Jason Austin has a lot of players already. He has all of his pitchers. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He's been, he's been quite aggressive. Garrett Cole, he's got Julio O'Reas, Scott Barlow, Patrick Corbyn, Mitch Keller, Jordan Romano, David Bednar, Nestor Cortez, and Carlos Hernandez. So the problem here is he can't draft another pitcher until the reserve rounds. And so while he's got some interesting guys, you know, there are guys like Carlos Hernandez and Nessa Cortez.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And I think you could even throw Mitch Keller in there who, you know, there are interesting things about them. But, you know, even if you get those guys for a dollar or something like that, you know, not having any more flexibility with your pitching staff when you have money is, I think not necessarily worth it. there. That is fair. All right. What else is going on here? John Carlos Stanton went for $12. That's... Yeah, what do you project Stanton for, Chris? I'm surprised. I got him in 19. Honestly, I wasn't looking.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I didn't realize he was up. That's my bad. I messed up. Oh, geez. All right. Well, another goodbye there for Greg Lathrop again. Our defending champion. Got Lindor for 15, Stanton for 12. I think we're seeing it. I think we're seeing the transition from overpays to underpays here because Lendora 15, Stanton at 12,
Starting point is 00:14:06 Chapman, or oldest Chapman here is going for 11. Now, I haven't projected for 12, but most closers go for more than I project them for because I intentionally have closers pushed down my rankings. That's interesting. It's starting. It starts. It starts now. And you know who's up? Sandy.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Sandy O'Conora. Let's see where this goes. Hopefully I could win him for a buck. Oh, no, it's not going to happen. Geez. All right, he's up to 18. Will he go higher? How much higher is the question? Oh, no, come on.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Don't do that, guys. He's up to 23, 24. Well, it's, it's what it should be. This is not going to be one of those discounts. Oh, geez. I think it's the $10 to $15 range or maybe the $18 range. Or maybe the $18. I think it's not the starting.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I think it's more not the starting pitchers. Oh, no. Pitchers were undervalued earlier, but I guess everybody still needs them. Yeah, because like what we've seen, like Logan Webb for 20 is fine, but it's not a crazy discount. Pablo Lopez for 12, again, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So I think pitchers have mostly held steady. Or starting pitchers at least. Revers, not so much. Sandy O'Connor goes for $27. That's an example of you know, potentially people seeing it as a maybe the end of a tier. I don't have it ranked that way, but yeah, 27 is
Starting point is 00:15:39 quite a little bit more than I have him for. Here you go. RJ White just nominated Jesse Winker straight to 8, and he got him. You got him. I project Winker for 12, but I'm not eager to draft him now that he's with Seattle, which I don't think is a great situation for him. and uh hard to argue the price yeah winker for eight um just getting back to sandy real quick sky you and i both have them for 27 so it's a fair price for this format but oh geez i thought
Starting point is 00:16:12 i could have got them for cheaper you know what has happened and you know i tell everybody not to do this but i like the players that i want they're being thrown out at the wrong time they're they've been the end of the tier for players that I want, and ultimately that's led to those players going for more money than than I want them to, more money than they should go for. So that's a lesson to all of you out there. If you want a player, either throw them out earlier. Well, don't wait, because if they're the last player in that tier,
Starting point is 00:16:44 they're going to go for more money, most likely. All right, Casey Meis goes for three bucks. Jorge Polanco went for 15. All right, kind of snuck that one by. It's not a bad price for, Jorge Polanco. And Chris, you're up. You're up, good sir.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Who will you nominate? AJ Pollock. I believe he got scratched from the lineup on Monday. Wow. AJ Pollock, not currently healthy. Shock. Who would have thought?
Starting point is 00:17:14 General Soreness, he's fine. Was hoping I could sneak him through. Would have been nice to sneak him through for a dollar. Wasn't sure I'd be able to do that. But AJ Pollock has been awesome over the past two seasons. Counting stats aren't going to be great. But he's got like a 900 OPS the past two seasons. So, you know, nice player to have for $2. And, you know, one thing that's nice about getting someone for a dollar or $2 early in your draft, especially if it is someone you like like I do with Pollock,
Starting point is 00:17:44 is there's a little certainty there, you know, that you know how much you have left to spend. and, you know, I like locking something in like that, even if, like, maybe I could have gotten Pollock for a dollar later. I don't know. But in terms of the strategy, you know, there's value in that certainty as well. All right, Aranola going up to 27 as well. So the same price as Sandy Alcansara. And, yeah, that's like an early to mid third round player.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So I guess it makes sense. And just like that, the next point. player thrown out. Lucas Gialito. Oof. I'm going to go ahead and guess he's going to go for right around $27. That probably makes sense.
Starting point is 00:18:31 RJ did his little famous jump bit to 25. Gotta be honest. Feeling good about Kevin Gosman at 21. In light of those. I know, you know, we probably all have Gosman ranked a little lower than Sandy,
Starting point is 00:18:46 Gialito, and who is the other one? Nola? Nola. I've got Galsman right in that range. So, I'm feeling pretty good about that one. And I wound up with Lucas Xilito. So RJ jumped him up to 25.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I bid one more. And no one else jumped in. So get them for $1 less than Nola and $1 less than Sandy. Exactly the trend I expected. You know, once we started talking about maybe the values were coming, not at starting pitcher. starting pitchers are pretty much going for what they would at any other point in the draft.
Starting point is 00:19:24 You know, if Sandy Alcantara and Aaron Nola had been nominated in the first 15 picks, they probably would have gone in the high 20s. Right. I think the best values at starting pitcher have been the early round pitchers. Yeah. Yeah, Chris, I mean, you wound up with Scherzer for 33.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I mean, in hindsight. Shurzer and Gosman for 54 combined, I'm very happy with. In hindsight, I'd rather have Scherzer for, 33 than winning Gileto for 26. So I think it's a good buy on your part. And Garicola, I think, went for 38.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And Burns went for 35. So I think the high-end starting pitchers were, represent the best values so far in this draft. All right. Marcel Ozuna is out there for six bucks. Not anymore. It's up to seven. Yeah, I think now that it's abundantly clear,
Starting point is 00:20:16 he's going to be an everyday player for the Braves. he's moved way up the rankings. I have him 29th in my outfield rankings right now as a $12 player. Chris gets him for nine. Yeah, I thought about going to 10. It's a good buy.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, I've got him for 12 too, so... I like it. I like it. This should be a fun one. Spencer Torkelson thrown out for a buck. I think his counterpart, Riley Green went for seven? Seven earlier on?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Seven or five. Yeah. I'm not going to get him in this draft, but Spencer Torkelson is definitely somebody I need to start prioritizing I just I have no idea who else plays first base for the Tigers
Starting point is 00:20:57 what probably happens if he doesn't win the job is Jonathan Scope moves from second to first and they play somebody dumb like Willie Castro there until Torkelton's ready and that's kind of also true of center field for them right poor Willie Castro
Starting point is 00:21:12 they had Victor Reyes for center field with Riley Green I feel like there's more momentum him for Torkelson because Miguel Cabrera's like talked about how he wants them on the team and everything. But Riley Green between the two actually had the better numbers of AAA last year. So we'll see. It could be both. Scott, I know that you've recently moved Spencer Torkelson up your ranks. I did the same thing. I moved them up to 23 in my first base ranks. And that makes him a $3 player and he just went
Starting point is 00:21:38 for seven. So you know, a little bit more than that. Same price is his teammate, Riley Green. And now Corey Seeger is out there. And he is up to $13. See where this one winds up. Scott versus Chris. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Okay. Correa went for 17. Seeger is exactly at 17. Now 18. He should go for more. And it doesn't always work out that way in these salary drafts. Right. Because of the timing of nominations and everything.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It looks like Seeger is going to go for more or less an appropriate price here. He's at Wanderfranco's cost now $20. Yeah, I've gone to 24 or so. At this point in the draft, that feels reasonable. Bogarts was a really good buy at, I think, same price, right? 20 bucks? I mean, I'd rather... Scott hates it.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I'd rather have Seagre. I think Seager has more upside. I do have Bogart's one spot ahead, but they're basically even for me. I was saying Boogertz. Lindor too I look 15 bucks for Lindor I'll keep going back to that it's too cheap too cheap
Starting point is 00:22:51 All right Rysa Lee Glacius is out there Another closer One of the top closers in the game And he's all the way up to nine bucks See where this one winds up All right Is that 12 We need to have
Starting point is 00:23:07 We need to save our talking For when the bidding is happening As opposed to right after the player is won Yeah I think I think, so Josh Hader hasn't been nominated yet. So we'll see if he ends up exceeding Liam Hendricks $21. Right now, Leeu, Eglacius is at 15 after Emmanuel Class A went for 16.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So relative to each other, you know, they basically went like they should, but relative to other closers, Iglesias and Class A both seemed a little bit discounted. And he went to the champion. I'm not the champion. But Rice-Sely Glacius, I won him for 15 bucks. What that tells me is at least for our own room here.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I'm supposed to nominate a player. Whoopsie. At least for our own room here, people want saves, but they're not willing to pay a few dollars extra for the more dominant save sources. They just want saves. Yep.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So I had around, I wrote $15 to $17 for, I wanted a top eight-ish, top-10 closer, and more than happy to get Riceley-Glasis for that price, who I have as the third-ranked closer this upcoming season. Yeah, I mean, I think I have Class A slightly ahead of him, but, you know, 15 is, I'm low on closures, and I have him as a $15 player.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So at this point in the draft, that's probably a pretty good value. Mm-hmm. All right, Holt-L-Tube went for $19 bucks. And RJ throwing out Zach Ranky for two. What do you say, Scott? You got three? That's kind of like my Pollock buy, where it's just, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:56 lock in a little bit of a little bit of price certainty on your roster for a guy that, you know, if you got him for a dollar, you'd be happy. Well, $2 is only $1 more. I think by the time we get to the end game, the thought of Granky for $3 will seem ridiculous just because of the quality of players
Starting point is 00:25:18 you can still get for $3 at that point. Just WIC based on the way this has played out with the people spending big early. Granky for two is one thing, but Granky for three, not willing to do it. One more dollar. I'm good at math, guys.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It doesn't sound like much, it doesn't sound like much with like a Freddie Freeman. But for a Zach Ranky, $1 more is a lot. 50% more. Yeah. I'm really good at math, guys. Robbie Ray went for $24.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And now Tyler O'Neill is thrown out there coming off of a breakout season. Some power, some speed. Lots of strikeouts. Honestly, I have no idea where to rank Tyler O'Neill. I have him 50th overall as a $20 player. And it's just like, I kind of just feel like I just put him there. and I just haven't thought about it since. Like, there's upside beyond that for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:16 There's a lot of downside. There's a lot of ways things can go wrong. I feel like Tyler O'Neill might be a better example of the argument I've made against Austin Riley of how things can go really, really wrong, and we're kind of paying a premium for the version that things went right. But I think O'Neill has even more upside than Riley,
Starting point is 00:26:36 you know, because he could be potentially a 20-steel guy. That's a good price. He goes for $14. So if he could stay on the field, I know he's dealt with some injuries. But man, the talent, the power, the speed. You look at Stackass, the max EV and the sprint speed. It's massive for Tyler O'Neill. So nice buy for $14.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And now Dalton Varsho gets thrown out there. I think I'm regretting my non-bid on Altovae for 20. I had room for another $20 player and I overlooked it. This is a good part of the draft to be looking for hitting help. You know, like if you passed on, like Scott, like Frank did, if you passed on the first and second round type of guys, you can get a lot of fourth and fifth round guys for, you know, really 14 to 20 right now when they, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:29 should all be 20 plus probably. All right. Scott, you wound up with Dalton Varsho for 10 bucks. So you got Varsho and Salvador Perez. combined $42 there on your catchers. And man, this is more speed than I'm used to seeing on your team, Scott. I agree. It sounds like Dalton Varsho
Starting point is 00:27:48 is going to be basically the everyday center fielder backing up at catcher as well, so he'll make occasional starts there. But a catcher eligible player playing every day somewhere else and having the ability to steal bases, like in this format, five by five. I'm not sure he isn't
Starting point is 00:28:08 the catcher I want the second most to Salvador Perez. So I will definitely take him at that cost. All right, Josh Hader goes for $19. Again, Liam Hendricks earlier went for 21. I got Riceley-Leglaces for 15.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So 19 sounds about right for Josh Hater. And now Chris Bryant is out there. And he's up 12 bucks. Just signed with Colorado. So we've been talking them up since then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I mean, lots to like. Like I said, this is a really good time to be filling out your hitter spots. Because Chris Bryant probably should be
Starting point is 00:28:50 closer to a $20 player. And he's going to end up there. No, no discount on Chris Bryant. So, so yeah. I was wrong about that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 That's fine. That's where he goes. No, he's up to 21. All right. Yep. Okay. Very sneaky.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Jose Al Tuvae again went for 19, so just to put that in perspective. Chris Bryant goes for 21. That is the final price for Bryant. And Cori Segar went for 20. I think that's probably maybe a couple dollars extra on Chris Bryant, but he's in the news right now. So that basically, look, he's being valued as a top 50 player now.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And I don't think that's crazy. Yeah. Now that he's in Corr's field. I take a 300 average with 30 home runs. I'll be a little disappointed if he doesn't get to that. I think he has the potential to be what Nick Castellanos was last year. Yeah. But with more walks in leagues where that matters.
Starting point is 00:29:52 All right, Catel Marte is the next player up here, and he's currently at 17. No, make that 18. He's not really going to go for a discount either. He is not. Well, it depends who you ask. some of us think he might be a $26 player Wow So how high is he
Starting point is 00:30:11 So he's well ahead of Chris Bryant for you then Yes he's my number 36 overall player Wow all right I love Cotl Marte And I wound up with Because I would be disappointed if Ctelemartre didn't hit 315 With 30 home runs I don't know about 30 home runs in Chase Field
Starting point is 00:30:27 Chase Field's an especially hard place to hit now For power but 30 home runs Certainly isn't off the table Mm-hmm. And I jumped in, and I wound up with Cotel Marte for $19. I like it. So to this point, I have P. Alonzo, Catell-Marte, Trevor Story, and Luis Robert. And then I have Gialito and Reisel-Eglacius as my two pitchers.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So look at that. We are an hour and a half in. I've got six players. I don't know if that's good. It's probably not good. I don't know. We'll see what happens. Kyle Swarber.
Starting point is 00:31:00 He's out there. The beef cake, Scotty. Yeah, I don't know. that I have the money for him but we'll see we'll see what the bidding gets up to alright I guess you guys have him for around 15
Starting point is 00:31:15 yes exactly yeah I've got 17 yeah so I've got them given where hitter prices have been in the last handful of picks you know you would think 12 would make sense but he's up to 15 now so
Starting point is 00:31:30 yeah no discount on him no discount on Chris Bryant there will be discount I am trying to be In Varsho I was willing to splurge for because I think he's a one of a kind player So I got him for 10 Which I told myself going in
Starting point is 00:31:43 If I told myself coming in If you can get Varsho for 10, do it So I listened to myself All right, I had to do a double take To make sure that name was correct But Miguel Cabrera has just been thrown out for a dollar You know one thing I will say is Miguel Cabrera is a player who
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's a shame That the shift the shift changes aren't in effect now because I feel like he's been impacted by the shift a little bit and his quality of contact metrics are actually still pretty good like it wouldn't surprise me if we got one I hate this term but dead cat bounce season from Miguel Cabrera where like he's not amazing but he hits like
Starting point is 00:32:27 265 with 30 homers oh I tried to base looking at Nolan Aeronauter go in there for 14. I tried to bid, Scott. Oh, did you get locked out? Yeah, it wouldn't let me. All right. Let me see if we can redo that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Oh, come on. It's all good. If... No, no, no, no, no. All right, yeah. Aronado was at 14. And Ryan Pustley was the next player, but I think we're going to have to redo this.
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Starting point is 00:33:38 for Nolan Aeronado. So now he's up to 16 right away. Do you want to go 17, Frank? You lock down now? No. No. Okay. That's a pretty good price for Aeronado.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Yeah. It's not a really good price for Aeronado. I didn't really want him. He's not who I have written down at third base, but when I saw him at 14, I was like, you know what, I'll jump in, but not at 17. Come on, who would do that? It's way too much.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Just kidding. All right, Ryan Presley is the next one up. Another closer here. All right, someone, do something. I thought he was going to go for a buck. I just, I have to mention, I just saw this tweet go by. It's Bill James' top 10 starting pitchers. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Max Fried is number three. And Ranger Suarez is number 10. Oh, baby. All right. Let's go. Let's go Ranger. What's his nickname? What's Bill James?
Starting point is 00:34:34 The godfather of Sabermetrics. Why is he a godfather, not just a regular father? Regular father is like a bigger deal than a godfather, right? For father. Oh, all right. I've got a... That's the term they use about the George Washington's. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:34:59 All right, we'll throw this guy out there. Brandon Lau for a box. Yeah. For our listening audience, you should probably say the name of that guy. That is, yes. When you throw them out there. Brandon Lau is the one that I threw out. Ryan Presley went for $12. It seems like a pretty fair price for him.
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Starting point is 00:36:00 I played that a few times. I'm having a good time with that. It's fun. It's good game. but man, there's so many games to play. Pokemon came out. There's so much going on. Anyway, Brandon Lau, there's a draft going on.
Starting point is 00:36:09 He went for $17. $1 more than Nolan Aronado. I guess that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's reasonable. I had a feeling Brandon Lau was going to be the first that goes for like shockingly cheap just because of the playing time issue in Tampa
Starting point is 00:36:27 and the batting average liability, but it didn't happen. 17 is... It's fine. It's fine. D. Oh, man. Now, do I want to go 15?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Alex Breggman is who's up. Yeah, Frank had him at $13. He was frustrated that he couldn't get him. He's gone up to 15. Folks, this is riveting stuff. Yeah. Ah, Frank's not going to get him at 15.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's it. He jumps in for a $16. We're punting at third base. Great job. Worth remembering two years ago. Alex Breggman was a $40. in a lot of salary cap drafts. What was wrong with us?
Starting point is 00:37:08 We were nuts. I'm pretty sure I was driving that bus. Well, I quoted you in one of my pieces recently talking about your 2020 third base preview. 2019. Or wait a 20. No, going into 2020. Yeah, where you said you've never seen a position in your 20 years covering fantasy sports. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:31 That was deeper than third base. and I don't say I don't bring that up to criticize Scott. It's mostly just to point out how far things have gone but also you know how recent how little removed we are from an era where we thought
Starting point is 00:37:50 third base was historically deep and how I don't know I'm starting to think we're going to get there I don't think third base is going to be a disaster between Bobby Witt likely having third base Chris Bryant getting to Corse Field I think third base is
Starting point is 00:38:08 it's going to be okay yeah we you know you mentioned it like you know things are getting better Josh Donaldson traded over to the Yankees
Starting point is 00:38:16 I mean if you play on Yahoo Wander Franco's third base eligible I'm pretty sure so that that helps too fair point Mitch Hanninger while we were talking went for $10 seems like a
Starting point is 00:38:26 very fair value for for Hanniger discount so we saw Stanton John Carlos Stanton go for, he was discounted a few bucks as well. So it's that, that's the range right there. I don't know where that is in my,
Starting point is 00:38:39 I guess right around pick 100 in my rank. Yeah. This is where we're seeing the discounts applied. Ozuna for nine, I have him 119 overall, I think. So probably that same type of range. Cruise for nine is a little bit of a premium, I think. Thank you, Chris. Relative.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I expected him to go for less. But I haven't projected for 10. He went for 9. But now I'm looking for players who go for under what I project them for, like well under. All right. Nelson Cruz. I've got Nelson Cruz for 11. And I snagged him up for 9.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Can he play third base? I don't think so. And Charlie Blackman. Chris throws him out there for two bucks. Might win him, Chris. I hope that's what you want. Again, trying to do the AJ Pollock, see if I can sneak him through and, you know, lock in some price certainty for a player who I think is going to be,
Starting point is 00:39:36 ah, someone jumped in for three. Oh, didn't reset. That was weird, yeah. I wasn't going to go four. I can't imagine anyone else's, so it's fine. But I would have been happy to get Charlie Blackman for two. He went for three. Perfectly fine to let him go to.
Starting point is 00:39:53 All right. But I do think Charlie Blackman's going to hit 275 to 280. He's probably going to score a decent amount of runs. I don't think I already get a ton else from him. But, you know, you can do a lot worse for a $2 player. Chris, are you only targeting outfielders that are over 35 years old? No, no, no. Montanodo's young.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I know, yeah, but Marcelo's going to's not 35. You got Pollack, right? Yeah, I don't, is George Springer 35? He's only 32. See? All right. I only have one under 30, but only one over 35, too. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It balances out. You know, you got Wantsoto in there, so definitely helps. All right, Willie Adonis is out there for $9. He's now up to $10, $11, $12. Yeah, that's, he's not going for a discount either. This won't be like the head-to-head points version where he went for $3. Not 12 is what he goes for, so. 12.
Starting point is 00:40:55 All right. I had the $11 bid, and somebody went just one more than I was willing to do. Yep. Okay. And we all have them for $12 on the site. So there you go. Solid. All right, let's try this one.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Let's try a little, another guy who's been in the news, one Joshua Donaldson. You know, Josh Donaldson's been in the news. Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? The perception is his value is improved with the Yankees. I'm not so sure that's true. But it does, that seems to be where the consensus is right now. So there was a jump bid straight to five after I nominated him.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I have him projected for four. I've gotten for seven, but, you know, obviously once you're talking about, you know, 115 picks, what happened again? Another. Did you want to go up up to eight, Frank, on Donaldson? I might have. Be honest. Yeah, I might have. Yeah, I just saw it happen so fast.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So I know it didn't reset. But this is turning out to be a great advertisement for our salary cap draft program here. So we're going to redo. We're going to redo Donaldson here. All right. We'll throw him out. Joshie, boy. Here he is.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Here he is. Don't let me down, Frank. Go straight to eight. All right. Um, should I? Oh, okay. I'll throw them out. I'll throw them out to eight.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I'll put him out of eight. And if anyone else wants him, he's yours. Any takers for nine? No. All right. I'm all right with that. I have Josh Donaldson exactly at $8 in the rankings. And he will be my starting third baseman.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Don't love it, but we shall see. Speaking of third base, Max Muncie just thrown out there, started at third base on Monday. It made his spring training debut for the Dodgers. Check out what he did. But third base, so they're really putting that arm to the test. They sure are. It's his non-throwing arm. Yeah, okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah. I don't know that they, I don't know, I mean, I guess they want him to get some practice in the field leading up to the start of the season. So they can use him there if they need to. But they don't really need to use him there anymore because they have. Freddie Freeman at first, obviously, and one of Chris Taylor and Gavin Lux is going to be in the lineup every day at second base, right? So, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:43:47 it sounds like Muncie will only have to play the field occasionally. Yeah, Universal DH now with the Dodgers, and Max Muncie goes for $10. Mentioned he made his debut on Monday. He went 0 for 1 with a walk and a strikeout. I haven't seen anything bad about him. so I'm going to assume that he came away okay so far. And Jose Abrae is the next player thrown out there.
Starting point is 00:44:15 We are approaching two hours in. And I have, man, I have Donaldson and Nelson Cruz. Those are two old guys on the same team. Things went a little sideways here. Jose Abraeus up to 11. Chris is in kind of see a high
Starting point is 00:44:39 he is surging past 15 so not a discount there either I've got him for 22 okay but not
Starting point is 00:44:50 willing to go to 16 at this point in the draft seems like a very fair price I do need to keep some powder dry because I don't have any speed so that's
Starting point is 00:45:00 you know something that I'm going to have to keep in mind I should have gone an extra dollar on Outerbohromed to see. I wasn't paying close enough attention. Jose Ibrahim, again, went for 15. I've got him at 17.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Scott at 18. Chris has him at 22. Goodbye for RJ White. At this point, when I see a name like Josh Rojas nominated, I know it's Jason Austin who nominated him. I don't even have to look. Does he only have $1 bids available?
Starting point is 00:45:33 He's got a max bit of five. Oof. Same thing for... But he only has three lineups spots left, so... Gotcha. Yeah? All right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Christian Yelich, thrown out there. Next name up? It's a mixed bag because he's won a lot of those low-end $1 players by throwing them out there. So,
Starting point is 00:45:53 so, you know, just because he has a full lineup at this point and not much money, it doesn't mean he has a lineup full of studs. Yeah. Unfortunately for him. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yelich is, up to 12 bucks. Scott is in. Chris is in. Chris now at 13. I have the rankings up so I know exactly how much he's worth. And boom. Chris gets him for $13.
Starting point is 00:46:20 How do you feel, Chris? That's a discount for me. I've got him as an $18 player, but I am higher on Christian Yalich than pretty much anyone. I am, I think the only person I've broken the fantasy baseball community's unspoken
Starting point is 00:46:34 pledge to rank Christian Yowich and Cody Ballinger back to back. I have Christian Yolich about a round higher than Cody Bellinger, but yeah. I wish it had been a little cheaper than 13 at this point. ADP has them about a round apart, so. But Bellinger's ahead, right? I think Yelich is ahead. It could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:46:54 But yeah, I kind of wish I had gone 14 there. I was hedging looking at the hitter options remaining. There are still a handful that better than Yelich, but it's unlikely I'm going to have the funds for them. It's unlikely they're going to go for less than 14, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And, you know, none of them probably have the upside he does. Lake Trinan went for eight bucks while we were talking to it. That was a really good buy. That was a really good buy. Yeah, I like that. I think Taylor Rogers earlier went for 10 or something. I'm trying to bid, just letting you know.
Starting point is 00:47:27 All right, there you go. Goes through. Yeah, I was trying to, too. But I don't know that I want to go 11. So you got that $10 bid in first, Frank, for Cody Bellinger. Oh, snipe at the last man. You should go 12.
Starting point is 00:47:41 That's your guy. Come on. I went 13. It's only right. And so far, so good. Will anyone in? Anybody else?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Jump in? No. All right. I get Cody Bellinger for 12 buckaroos. And these are guys, these are other players who are right around pick 100. So I think we found the range
Starting point is 00:48:02 like 70. five to 100, they still tend to go for face value. Okay, Fran Moul reus. Go ahead, Scott. What are you going to say? Here's where the discounts are being applied. Fram Moraes is at 7. For reference, I won Nelson Cruz at 9. So these are, you know, outside of Otani,
Starting point is 00:48:21 these are the other two util only bats that you're really focused on in the top 150 or so. Fram Moraeus now up to 10. Going once. Going twice. I'm actually a little bit surprised if Framareas didn't end up being cheaper than that
Starting point is 00:48:40 because he just feels a little overlooked this season. Chris, who would you rather have Fran Mill Reyes or Nelson Cruz? They went for, you know, 10 and $9 respectively. I do have Nelson Cruz a little bit higher. But I think both are great.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I think there's more upside for Nelson Cruz and batting average is the big difference. All right, Brandon Belt. was starting out there for a dollar, now up to three. I assume he'll be someone's corner infielder. And solid pickup. And sold for three.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yeah, look, when he is on the field, he's great. Brandon Belt. So, like the Giants have done with many other players, the past couple seasons, they've been able to get the most out of Brandon Belt, Brandon Crawford. As long as your name is Brandon, you should be alright. Gons-Money Grandal is now up.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And, Scott, you won For a second, it looked like he was going to be a little bit of a discount. Scott, you won Varsho for 10, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Just for reference, because I feel like these two go around each other in terms of ADP. And Grandal goes for nine to me. Yay. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:57 So this is going to right. I've got Grandal. I've got Pete Alonzo, Catel Marte, Josh Donaldson. Trevor Story, Cody Bellinger, Luis Robert, Nelson Cruz. I've only got two pitchers, though. Lucas Geolito and Riceley-Glaecious.
Starting point is 00:50:12 So we'll work on that. And Jack Flaherty. Chris, you threw him out there for three bucks? I think you're, are you muted? Yeah, I think you're muted. No, I got, I put in a four and it didn't take it. So I think a lot of people were locked out. Yep, $3.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Is not the most I would be willing to go for Jack Flaherty, but I probably not much more than that. I think at this point, I mean, we learned that he's been pitching through a, what was a scapular injury in his shoulder? It's cold us. In addition to having a, in addition to having a PRP injection in his lap recently.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So we know he's starting the season on the IL. I think there's a very, very high risk of the season just completely imploding on Jack Flaherty, but obviously there's upside. Yeah, it's scary. It's scary time right now for Jack Flaherty. And we're going to redo that bit and we'll let you know how much he goes for.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I accidentally close the draft room. So I was trying to get the draft room configured here. Chris, if you could nominate Flaherty for three. But you guys mentioned the tear that was discovered in his shoulder. He's saying he's had that for years and it's nothing new. And he's kind of perturbed that the Cardinals reported it as a tear
Starting point is 00:51:41 in his shoulder. I don't know if you just covered that, but I would get that that would perturb him. But it's not the kind of thing that we can just overlook, I don't think. Yeah. All right, he's up to $6 now.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I believe Tim Kanek, who does a lot of drafts with us, I think he's a Cardinals fan. I could be wrong. but I feel like he's always going after Goldie. I think he drafted Aronado. Tim, if you're watching, let us know in the chat. You're a Cardinals fan. Jack Flaredy goes for six bucks,
Starting point is 00:52:14 and now Chris Sale is up. So back-to-back, risky, you know, some risk reward here, starting pitchers. Chris Sale dealing with a stress fracture in his rib. We don't really know exactly what the timetable is for him. But he will start to hear. Chris Sail than Jack Flaherty at this point, personally.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And sale goes for five bucks, so $1 less than Jack Flaherty. You know, I think I'd still rather have Flaherty, but for this particular draft, I don't want either. There are so many starting pitchers out there still. Yep. There's actually a decent number of high-impact players still left. Frank, you ready? Uh-oh, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Here comes the money. Here comes the money. Here comes the money Here we go Money talks Whoa Geez Jumping
Starting point is 00:53:10 For 16 One to 16 All right I mean you could have them Bud You're out I'm out I barely had time
Starting point is 00:53:20 To play the little tune there Yeah Wow that went fast Well good knowing you Shane McClanhan But geez All right winds up going for 16 To Tim who does confirm That he is a Cardinals fan
Starting point is 00:53:31 So I know he likes Flaherty, McClanahan quite a bit. We usually... Where do you guys have McClanahan in terms of dollars? 12. I'll check it out. I have him as a top of 30 starting pitcher. So let's see what that comes out to. I have him for 15.
Starting point is 00:53:50 So he went for 16. $1 more than I'm willing to spend. There's just a few other pitchers out there that I want to target before I get to McClanahan, which I no longer can get, of course. Jonathan, India. is out there for nine and that's a pretty damn good price.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Go, Scotty, go. That's a good one. Got some more steals, baby. Piling up those 10 to 12 steals. You've got a lot of those guys, Scott. I know. What am I doing? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I'm going to move Fernando Tatis to my bench so I don't get confused and think I already have an extra shortstop. Although you won't be able to bid on that, right? Yeah, I guess so, right? Because the bidding is only for your starting roster, and then we'll do a reserve draft right after this end.
Starting point is 00:54:39 So I think you've got to leave them somewhere in the lineup. All right. I'll leave them. I'll stick them. Where do you go? No, I'll stick them in the outfield. All right. Tommy Edmund is the next one up.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I don't know if, I don't know if the room will force me to do what you guys are saying. But I'll do it just for the sake of the draft results. Tommy Edmund is currently out there for $8. to Chris who needs some speed he has a need and he has oh
Starting point is 00:55:11 ooh ho ho all right Raz B Don went in for nine and then Chris back in for 10 okay and will it go down it does all right Chris
Starting point is 00:55:23 I don't I don't like Tommy Edmund but yeah I'm one I don't have a second baseman which is not as big of a concern but two I just just, I do need steals.
Starting point is 00:55:36 And I don't think he's going to steal 30 bases again, but I think he's a pretty solid bet for 20. And him and Yalich are the only players I feel confident will have more than 10 right now on my roster. So, yeah. All righty. Colton Wong is the next one up. And, oh, I had a $3 bill. He's a guy who could steal 10 plus bases.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Oh, yeah. He can go 15-15. It's definitely possible. That's a solid buy. Holdenwong such a weird player. If you look at his career lines, it's like he's a different player every year. Oh, yeah. He's bounced all over the place.
Starting point is 00:56:09 It's so strange. He was a solid player the last year for the Brewers. Yeah, he was 272, 14 homers, 12 steals. Two years before that, he was 24 steals, 11 home runs. He's had some years where he's been a good batting average guy. He's had some years where he's walked a ton. It's like, there's a, Xander Bogartz was like that earlier in his career where he just kind of did something different every year.
Starting point is 00:56:32 obviously a much different caliber of player there. Yeah, and what Colton Wong did last year. The 14 homers, 12 steals for Colton Wong. He did that in only 116 games. So if this guy could stay healthy for 150, I mean, you know, he could be 18 and 15, 20, maybe 2015, something like that. Nick Castellanos is out there right now, recently signed with the Philadelphia Phillies.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And much like Trevor's story, outside of going back to Cincinnati, winding up with the Philadelphia Phillies, might have been the best landing spot for Nick Cassiano's. That's the best value of the draft, $15 for Nick Castianos. I've got him as a $26 player. Wow. Even if you guys aren't as high as him. Yeah, that's a great buy.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Yeah, I was tempted to go 16, but that's really stretching me thin for half my team if I did that. And this is the unique part of a salary cap and auction draft. where I'm with you, Scott, like, same thing. I wanted to go 16 on Nick Cassiano's, but I've got some money budgeted for pitchers, and pitchers are just not being thrown out right now. I don't have any other outfield spots left.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Kenley Jansen now up to $10, and that's a good buy. So the fringe closers earlier on in the draft, they were inflated, and now some of the closers going at this point are going for very good value. So Kenley Jansen goes for the same prices. Taylor Rogers went earlier on in the draft. It's kind of a flattening of the value of closers, basically, where.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yeah, the Ricella Iglesias is an Emanuel Class A's. They do go for a little more, but not the difference between them and the mid-tier and the bottom tier isn't as wide as you see in like a snake draft. All right, just through Justin Verlander out there, let's get some pitchers on the board here, man, because it feels like a while since. A lot of great pitchers left still. Yeah, like we had that little run. of Flaherty sale in McClain-Han, but
Starting point is 00:58:35 yeah, there's a lot of good pitchers left. We need pitching. I need pitching. But you're not going to be a discount on Justin Verlander, and there probably shouldn't be. I mean, the way he looked in his first spring start throwing the averaging 95 with his fastball, he was basically, looked like he did
Starting point is 00:58:53 in 2015 or 2019 in that regard. Throwing just as hard at 39 as he did at 36. Yeah, and he goes for... Which is the first big question that he had, answer. And he goes for $16, which, look, Scott is the highest one of all of us in terms of ranking Justin Verlander, 79th overall, and he has him for $16. So that's about right. Yeah, I'm at a point here where I think I'm only going to buy players who are discounted, which there are sure to be players who are discounted. O'Neill Cruz is out there. Guy hit another, just a golf shot on Monday. I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:32 he's fun. He is fun. The power is. stupid easy for him. Like it's, it's completely effortless. Man. You know, I don't know if he's going to be able to put that into action in games.
Starting point is 00:59:44 He, his career has been very hit or miss in that regard, but yeah, broke out last year though. Yeah. And the underlying numbers are all, you know, from what we've heard from the minors,
Starting point is 00:59:56 from what he did in his very brief major league stint last season. He seems to be in that. Stanton judge. Vlad Jr. raw power range, like legitimate 70 plus grade raw power. And so I want it for seven, which also gives me some stolen base potential. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:17 The big question is when he's going to be up. So I've been pouring over Beat Rider articles for every team. And the consensus among the Pirates Beat Riders is that it's probably not going to be on the opening day roster, which is silly. but that is often the way it goes, how long the pirates will be able to keep them down
Starting point is 01:00:40 or if Cruz hits like four more homers before the opening day gets here, can they justify keeping them down at all? I think it's fair to wonder. I just put out my top 30 position battles for spring training for fancy baseball purposes, that Pirate Shortstop was number one. That's the one I'm watching.
Starting point is 01:00:58 The thing is, it's not actually a position battle. It's O'Neill Cruz versus the, the pirate's willingness to call him up. He has played only like six games at AAA. So there is certainly a development argument to make against calling him up. But yeah, I mean, if he has a monster spring, if it continues to have a monster spring, there's not a, there's not a like, is this guy better than him argument? The pirates don't have a reasonable option at the.
Starting point is 01:01:33 shortstop position that they could play over him. Right. All right. While we were talking, Hassan Kim went for $3. Luis Reyes went for two. And Jazz Chisholm is currently up. And he is up to $12 thus far. And if you need speed at this point, definitely makes sense to be in on him. And that's exactly what Chris needs. He needs some speed. And will you win him for $13? There you go. technically a discount on what I have him for. I just dropped $30 in the span of about six players on Jazz Chisholm, O'Neill Cruz, and Tommy Edmunds.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So that's not enough speed for me to win, but it's probably enough for me to stop worrying about it too much, hopefully. Yeah, I was with you on Cruise. You know, I was debating. How high would you have gone for Cruz, Chris? Probably not much more than seven. I mean, I've got him ranked really high, and he's still a $7 player.
Starting point is 01:02:37 You know, I've got him in the top $150. So I don't think I would have gone that much further. But look, there aren't a lot of stolen base threats left, and pretty much all of them are outfielder at this point. And I can only draft one more outfielder. Right. So, you know. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Well, Eddie Rosario goes for $4. And now Mitch Garver is up. Mitch Garver traded to the Texas Rangers. Hopefully we don't worry as much about playing time anymore. And, you know, still trying to figure out the park, global eye field. How does it play overall? But I don't think it would matter for his level of power.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Like, he hits shots. It certainly doesn't matter for his level of power relative to other catchers, which I think is the most important. way of looking at him. $7. Frank, you won Mitch Garver for,
Starting point is 01:03:35 which is fine. That was a case of, I nominated Garver, even though I already have Salvador Perez and Dalton Varsho. So that was a case of me just throwing out a guy, I know I'm not going to win.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Right. But I know, but like, it'll certainly go for more than a dollar just so I can drain people of money that they might spend on a player I do want to win. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:54 no, it's smart. I've got two catchers now. I spent $16 total on Garver and Yasm Monty Grandal. And now you Darvish is out there. And we need some pitchers.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Come on. Someone, not many pitchers. Darvish is up to 10. Double digits. How high will he go? Scott, he's got him for 11. And now 12. I was afraid of that.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Will Scott go 13? And he will. He will. He will. I should have just gone straight to 12. instead of going to 11. And you know what's so funny, Scott, when you mentioned earlier,
Starting point is 01:04:39 you bid $12 on Pablo Lopez, and you said, you know, Darvish might go for $12 later on. I did say that. It goes for $1. So I guess I can't feel bad about getting him for $13.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Right. So the best pitchers who are left and are better than Darvish, there are a few still. Lynn. I've got Barrios, Lynn, Musgrove, Peralta. Castillo and Rodon,
Starting point is 01:05:02 I have ahead of him as well. So here's one nominated right now. Lance Lynn, we'll see how much, if he does go for more than 13. Oof. And there's a jump bid to 13. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:14 RJ, RJ's probably watching. Uh, that's sneaky RJ. Because he was, I feel like RJ was price enforcing me on, on jazz as well. Oh.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Oh. And will he get him? I think so. Lance Lynn goes for $15 to RJ, away. So I kind of like the idea of Darvish here because however his season
Starting point is 01:05:41 plays out, he's going to have a ton of strikeouts. I think the way I've the way I'm constructing my pitching staff where I'm not going to have many high end arms, like strikeouts is the category that's going to suffer the most because of that. So I think he's a good fit
Starting point is 01:05:57 for like my specific team build even though obviously there are question marks. All right. Nixon Zell goes for $2. And he's part of, I guess you can call it a position battle in Cincinnati. They have four spots for, I believe, six players. They have three outfield spots. And the D.H.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Aristides Aquino is involved. Jake Fraley, who they acquired in the winker trade. Nixon Zell is there. So we shall see. It's a good ballpark still to hit in. So could have some deep sleeper appeal with one Nixon Zell or Arrstida is Sikina. Chris Bassett is up. And he is up to $8.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Now with the New York Mets. Which is not a bad place to end up. It's, you know, it's not an amazing pitchers park, but it's certainly not a gigantic downgrade from Oakland. And Chris Bassett goes for $10. And we mentioned when the trade happened, in his career, Chris Bassett has had much better numbers at home
Starting point is 01:07:01 in Oco versus compared to the road. but again, it's not like a major downgrade in terms of park. City field is still a good place to pitch. So solid landing spot there for Chris Bassett. And now Edwin Diaz is out there. Who's the most recent closer that went? Kenley Jansen. Kenley Janssen went for $10.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And Edwin Diaz has surpassed that, which makes sense. I think he's uniformly ranked ahead of Kenley Jansen. I have him pretty much. Back to back. Oh. Diaz is upside. It's higher. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And Diaz goes for $12. Which again, like the closers at this point are going for much better values. It's good values. To me, Diaz is in a similar tier as Class A. And Class A went for, I think it was like $16 earlier. So I put him in the queue instead of nominating him. All right. I nominated Freddie Peralta.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Get some more pitchers out there. I'm hoping he pushes 20, because if he doesn't, I'm going to feel bad about that Darvish bid. Oh, jump in to 13, 14, 15. 15 to RJ White. Now up to 16, 17. All right, Scott.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Yeah. You're feeling around. You're feeling right. You're feeling right. Exhale. And I jump in at 19. So you knew all along, Frank. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 You were in on this. Is he? your top remaining pitcher? Oh, geez. Consensus-wise, he is. He's not for me. Who is for you, Chris? I have Joe Musgrove just ever so slightly.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I have him, mostly because of workload. I've never heard you say anything positive about Joe Musgrove ever. That's fair. I wound up with Freddie Peralta for $21 here. More than I wanted to spend on him. He's my SP2. I've got him and Lucas Gilles.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Alito. But I like 47 on Geolito and Peralta. Yes. And you spent, what, 56? 54 on Gossman and
Starting point is 01:09:17 and Scherzer. Okay. Yeah, again, like I said, you spent, I think, exactly 21 on Gossman. On Gossman as well, right?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Yeah, so we paid the same price for Peralta, and I have Peralta ranked the highest of all of us. I think he's like 15th or 16th. So you worry about the endings, but Man, the stuff, stuff is filthy.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Fastball Freddy no more. Reese Hoskins is up. Four pitch Freddy. Even. Four pitch Freddy. Isn't that what he is? I know he's got the slider and the curve. Let me throw a change up occasionally?
Starting point is 01:09:54 Might be it. Might be like a sub 5% pitch for him. Let's see. I'm willing to go $9 on a first baseman, and I could have got Reese Hoskins for nine just then. I'm not sure. that was the first basement I wanted to go nine on. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:09 There were, there, there are still better ones. Uh, Freddie Peralta. 10% of the time through a change up last year. That's pretty good. Four pitch,
Starting point is 01:10:17 Freddie. I like the sound of, four pitch, Freddie. Adam, weight rights up. No surprise. Scott's got the top bid,
Starting point is 01:10:24 seven bucks. And going once, going twice. God. Scottie gets him. Seven bucks. Happy with that. Happy with that.
Starting point is 01:10:35 All right. Let's check in on the team, Scott. We haven't looked in in a little while. You've got two catchers. You got Perez and Varsho. You got Jonathan India for nine. Devers for 35. Baez for 15.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Teoska Hernandez for 25. Reynolds for 16. Tatis for 17. Now, Eloy Jimenez is thrown out there. And then you've got four pitchers. You got Adam Wainwright, Zach Wheeler, U. Darvish, and Pablo Lopez.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Yeah, I haven't had a freak out yet. It's very good for me. Not yet. Under delivering to our audience. We've got to keep going then. I mean, we've got to keep going until we get at least one. One Scott meltdown. I came close at the very start when we got through all the first round hitters
Starting point is 01:11:20 and I hadn't purchased one yet. So Scott has like one fringe-ish first rounder, but you're definitely going more for a balanced approach rather than any kind of stars at scrubs. Yeah, I mean, there are going to be some scrubs. on my team still. Because I got a lot of like... Like I didn't mean to imply that there wouldn't be scrubs.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I got a lot of like round three through seven players and could get more of those still. But yeah, it's not necessarily the way I wanted to do it, but that's that's where you have to read the room and adjust mid-flight. It's like we talked about when was that? talking about Tuesday. Chris, you won't... You won David Fletcher for a buck. I just screwed up big time. That's a disaster.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Why did you do that? I just used my D.H. spot on David Fletcher. That is a disaster. Oh, my God. Do you think somebody was going to bid you up? Was that the thinking? Or did you just... I just didn't think about the fact that I had already filled up my middle infield spot.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Oh. Oh, geez. Man, that is. Oh, no, you can't do that. Never mind. All right, who had Chris freaking out before Scott? I was going to say, you can move Tommy Edmund to the outfield, but you can't because you feel your outfield. I can't.
Starting point is 01:12:57 My point, yeah. No, this is. Oh, wait. No, I can't. No. Oh, man. All right, so here's what's happening. I'm screwed.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I mentioned pitchers weren't thrown out for a long time. And it feels like now everyone was. waiting for these pitchers collectively. And now they're going for maybe even too much money. So Dylan Sees goes for 19. I spent 21 on Freddie Peralta. It's more than I wanted to spend on him. So we're all kind of
Starting point is 01:13:22 doing the same thing. We're waiting for pitchers to get thrown out there and they're going for a lot. So Dylan Sees for 19. I don't think I mentioned it, but Eli Jimenez went for 15. It's a great price. It's just right now I can't afford to jump in on a $15 outfielder. I need more
Starting point is 01:13:37 pitching. So, I could not bid on my man Eloy Jimenez, unfortunately. Did get him on Toulouse though. Happy about that. DJ LaMayhew, you know, we haven't talked about DJ LaMayhew recently, and the Yankees kind of have
Starting point is 01:13:52 a log jam going on because they've got Glabre at second. They have Isaiah Connor Fletford at short. They've got Josh Donaldson at third. They have Anthony Rizzo now at first base. Stanton will
Starting point is 01:14:08 probably move between left field and DH. I mean, is DJ LaMahue just going to be like a utility guy to start the season? If they don't trade somebody? It seems weird. Yeah, it seems like he'd have to be right unless they're planning to DH Donaldson some and play Stanton in the outfield, which would force one of Judge or Gallo into centerfield. I mean, who's their projected center fielder right now? Aaron Hicks?
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's terrible. It's terrible. That's terrible. Judge and Gallo are capable of playing center field. I just don't know how often they actually want to do that. Yeah. And I don't think Aaron Hicks is so bad. Come on, Scott.
Starting point is 01:14:45 You were a little mean about it, you know? Well, it's most, it's, you can't rely. Like, that can't be your primary answer. Yeah. At center field at this point. And they probably, given how much he's struggled to stay healthy. Yeah, I don't think they want to play him every day either. So it's a fair point.
Starting point is 01:15:02 But. Yeah, I'm a little worried about DJ Limit. Like, DJ Lemmy, he's going to play a ton. But if he doesn't play. every single day, given that he's already, you know, you're really counting on, you're relying on counting stats with him because there's not much power probably and there's not much speed. It could be a problem for his fantasy value. So I have, I have almost zero interest in DJ LaMehew at this point. All right. LaMehue went for three bucks. Joey Vado was the next buy at $10.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And now Jose Burrios is out there at 19, which. Makes sense. That $13 bid on you, Darvish, is turning out okay. Yep. However, I will say Joey Votto going for 10 makes me a little more nervous about passing up Reese Hoskins for 9 because I wasn't willing to go 11 on Votto. So, first base, it's getting a little scary for me.
Starting point is 01:16:00 It started when I didn't win Freddie Freeman and has continued throughout the salary draft. All right, CJ Abrams, one of the top prospects in the Padres organization goes for $2, and he's already got two home runs in spring training. I know that there's a Tati's injury. I don't think that they're going to, look, the Padres have been an aggressive organization with their prospects. I don't think that they're going to rush him just because of the Tatee's injury, but maybe they prove me wrong.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Who knows? Hassan Kim, I'm not sure there's anything there, you know? Right. I think it's worth you know giving one more you know look it was his first year in the States last season so I don't want to write him off
Starting point is 01:16:46 but yeah the what we saw last year was not there wasn't much promising about it defensively he was good and Lordus Gueriel goes to me for $6 which I'm very happy with
Starting point is 01:17:02 yeah Mm-hmm. Solid buy. I wrote them down for... Not better than David Fletcher for a dollar. I wrote them down for 8 to 10, so I was... I'm ashamed spiraling, guys. Anthony Ritzell is the next player out there for a dollar.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Yeah, I was about to say someone bid too. I think Chris was a little too gleeful at the prospect of the Scott White meltdown. So now this is karma. This is karma. It feels carmick for sure. I've got $35 left, and I've got a lot of pitcher spots. so I think I probably got to cool it with the hitters. And Anthony Rezzo is up.
Starting point is 01:17:37 He's going for about $4. Chris, let's check in on your team. I think we're probably going to wrap up the podcast side of things. We'll keep rolling here on YouTube. But let's check it on your team here, Chris, and see what you got. No catchers, no first base, but you've got Tommy Edmund for 10. Manny Machado at 32. O'Neill Cruz is your shortstop at 7.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Jazz Chisholm is your middle infielder. I guess those are interchangeable for 13. Then you've got Pollack for two, Yelich for 13, Springer for 28, Marcel Lozuna for 9, Juan Soto for 44, and then David Fletcher as your utility bat for a... You know what it was, is just I went through a period where I was adding guys to my queue for speed, and then I drafted three of them,
Starting point is 01:18:20 and just I'm sort of absent-minded at times, guys, and it came back to bite me. All right, and you've got Max Scherzer for 33, and Kevin Gossman for 21. So two pitchers thus far for $54 combined, as you mentioned. And hey, that's what you said you like to do. You want to get two aces and then, you know, fill in the rest of your spots for about 30 bucks. And it seems like that's probably what you're going to have to do here, Chris.
Starting point is 01:18:48 It's easy to be absent-minded when you're podcasting while it's happening. One hundred percent. Yeah. I remember just got too cute. Just one of the first time. we broadcasted a mock draft like this very long time ago, like over 10 years ago. I'd like filled my shortstop spot
Starting point is 01:19:06 with Hanley Ramirez or Troy Tulawitzkis somebody really early on. And then I kind of reached for Stephen Drew later on. And I was so mad. And the fact that I remember that all these years later tells you just how mad I was.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Let's hit one more salary cap draft story before we'd wrap up here. I'll never forget Scott, when I was just listening to the podcast, the, the, the, the U versus Nando Defino for, for Jed Jerko, and you were, you were trying to price him up because you knew he loved Jed Jerko. And then I think you wound up with him for like 18 or $20 or something like that. It was, oh, man, that was, yeah, it was fun to listen to at the time, man. It was great stuff. Yeah, that was, that was definitely memorable. And the thing about it is, it wasn't just I knew
Starting point is 01:19:58 Nando loved Jed Jerko. I knew Nando. And I knew when he loved somebody, he would stop at nothing to get him. And I was kind of like flaunting it in his face and everything. And he totally... And what also made it so bad is I went with this really aggressive strategy early on
Starting point is 01:20:16 and spent like a combined $120 on Mike Trout and Miguel Cabrera, the top two players at the time. So I had to be really careful with my bidding from there on out. And I go and spend like $24 on. Jed Jerko. It was a disaster. Let's catch everybody up. After I got Gurriel for six, Anthony Rizzo goes for five, Blake Snell goes for 12. R.J. through Joe Adele out for two. I had the quick bit at three. I thought I would get him. Tim Kannick sneaks in, gets Joe Adele for four.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And I wanted Adele, but again, got to save my money for pitching. So I don't know. Maybe I'll regret it. He hit a bomb over the weekend. So good to see there from our guy. Joe Adele. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to wrap up on the podcast side of things. This will be part two. But if you are listening and you want to find out the results, the rest of what we've got going on with the salary cap draft, you can check us on YouTube. We're going to keep it rolling there. Scott, will the results be on the website as well? Yeah, they should be by Tuesday morning. All right. So we've covered a lot of players thus far. But if you want to see the rest of
Starting point is 01:21:22 the results, you can find them on the site or again on YouTube. We're going to wrap up the podcast feed there. Hour 2 is in the books. And we'll be back again tomorrow. Bye-bye.

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