Fantasy Baseball Today - Mailbag Thursday! Lance Lynn Deep Dive (05/07 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: May 7, 2020

We're answering your questions and analyzing Lance Lynn but first, it sounds like the MLB is working on a concrete plan for the 2020 season. Will the real Lance Lynn please stand up (7:10)? How much of his 2020 was real? Can he maintain the gains in control? ... We're answering your questions starting with Rockies hitters without the Coors Field hangover (21:19). ... How come switch hitters are becoming extinct (25:20)? What's the deal with Ozzie Albies' splits? ... How good can Vlad Guerrero Jr. and Cavan Biggio be in their spring sites (32:39)? Biggio reminds us a lot of Rhys Hoskins at second base. ... The regulators are called upon to remind people you shouldn't be drafting right now (36:18)! ... What's Kyle Tucker's outlook as a keeper (38:30)? ... Who are some players we reach on later in drafts (45:03)? ... Remember Michael Fulmer (57:35)? When should we expect him back? ... Email us at [e-mail]. 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @CBSFantasyBB, @AdamAizer, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Download our printable Draft Kit from CBSSports.com/draftkit! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. I drive, center field, at the wall, grand slam. This is magnificent. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy becomes reality. Now here's Frank, Scott, Chris, and Adam.

Welcome everybody to Fantasy Baseball today. Thursday, May 7th. Frank here, joined by Pocket 8. Adam Azer and Scotty Dobs, Scott White. No, before the show started, I found out something about Adam that I never knew. Huge fan of jock jams, crazy. Please. I don't know why you pegged me.

He's like, I bet you really like jock jams. That's like, da-na-na-na-na-na-na-ha-ha. Hey, for like hours. You came in singing Pump the Jam. I did pump up the jam, yeah. But no, I don't like that, but I've learned something about you that I never learned, Frank. What's that? You're a huge Metallica fan.

How'd you not know that? Maybe I knew that, but you're wearing a Metallica shirt today. It means you must be a big fan. I am. This is from their Death Magnetic tour about, I don't know, eight, nine years ago? What kind of kid, your age is a big, it's like a huge Metallica fan. I love Metallica. I've seen them probably seven or eight times live.

I actually left Mother's Day once to go see them in MetLife. True story. They were playing a concert at Mother's Day. They were. They were. is what you're saying. Yeah. Scotty Dobs is here.

Scott, are you a big fan of Jock James? Well, I had those CDs that ESPN released when I was like, I don't know, 12 or something. Let's go. So I had them. I don't know if that makes me a big fan, but they were in my possession. Adam, yesterday you sent out a tweet asking people to give me new nickname. So I thought we'd kind of sprinkle those out throughout the course of the show. Did you find anything good?

Any top candidates? Well, you have a new segment to create. Ian Harris says when Frank has a hot take, he should say stamp of approval. But like, you know, stampful of approval or something, I think could be just an episode or a column. Stampful of approval. I don't know if you want to put the end on or not,

the L at the end or not, but that's a segment. Okay. So I'm not sure about the logistics because this is something I did at my previous job, too. Oh, oh, man. So they might have got it from that, and I don't want there to be any beef, any crossover.

I don't know. I mean, I feel like you kind of own that. It's your name, but I'll let you make that decision. Yes, I have some nicknames. I have many of them. I'll give you just two from CBS people, one from Chris and one from Joe Polito, who is on our social team.

Chris calls you the usurper. Love it. Joe Polito, this is not. really a nickname. So I'll give you, I'll give a bonus one. But this, he says, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn, with a damn being my name, A.D.A.M. It was pretty clever. So if we ever share a fantasy team together, that's, that's what's happening. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn with your name at the beginning, mine at the end. How about this is one, this one has gotten the most votes, I think. Tramp Stamp.

You know what's funny about, you bring that up? My dad has like, A stramp? He does. He has like 30 tattoos. And I have none. Everyone always asks me, how come you have no tattoos? Your dad has 30 tattoos? I don't know.

I just never got around to it. So your dad got you into Metallica? Not really. I'm like a way bigger Metallica fan than he is. I don't think anyone on this podcast, Chris's included, has a tattoo. Does Heath? Well, Heath isn't on the podcast anymore, but not that I know of. Al doesn't.

Wow. What if Al has a? like a sleeve. That'd be great. Today on the podcast, we're going to deep dive Lance Lynn, and we will finally get to your questions. That is a promise because today's episode is mostly

a mailbag. Before all that, I did want to mention that the MLB is slowly moving along here. They're expected to send an actual proposal to the Players Association within the next week or so. And at least one team, the Cleveland Indians,

have reportedly told their players to prepare for a potential July 1st opening day. So I don't want to get anyone too excited, but this is just what's in the news, and it sounds like we're moving closer to a start date for the MLB season. Obviously, with the KBO going on right now, they kind of use that as a test to see what's working, what's not, and hopefully brings us closer to baseball,

because, guys, I don't know about you, but I need some baseball. I do. I'm all right. Adam's a little busy I kind of thought the story that came out yesterday was a bit of a non-story it didn't change the timeline I think we were all kind of thinking

if baseball started it would be early July that date had already been floated out there but you know it's good to see that they're taking it seriously and they're going to at least put some plans into place I am concerned from a personal level I've been thinking about this a lot

that baseball is going to start and then football is going to start and I'm barely going to be on this show during baseball season which is going to make me sad. Like I'd love to have a normal season where I've got four to five months of baseball coverage before I'd like see ya.

But I'm just a little upset. Like I don't know when the season's going to start and it might just be so, there might be so few games before football really gets going at least, you know, draft season. So, oh, man. That sucks. Adam's a downer.

Adam's preemptively setting us up for his departure. Basically. I feel like ever since Frank came in, it's just been, let's be anxious about what Adam's doing today. Where is he? Why is he not here? Well, I'm always in my house. I'm only going to continue is what you're saying. I never leave the house.

You can be rest of sure of that. I've heard that's a thing. Adam doesn't leave the house. And now he has a great experience. excuse not to leave the house. So it works out quite well. I did have another speech debacle. Look, just if you noticed this, and if you ever notice anything that I do, just point it out. You guys, we've been working together about a month now. I would say that's enough time. You guys can throw me under the bus. You can call me out. Yesterday, William Bryce tweeted at us and said that I don't say innings. I say ennings.

Is it a New York thing? I don't know. I say ennings with an E. I don't know if we're picking too much. I didn't notice that either. But now our attention has been drawn to it. I don't even know how to say it correctly because I'm trying to say innings with an I, innings, but I guess I do say ennings with an E. Just sounds natural with me. So we're about to talk about Lance Lynn.

We're going to talk about ennings, innings. So you guys call me out if you hear anything. Lance Lynn, coming off a career year at age 32, finished SP 16 in Roto last year, SP 19 in fantasy points per game in points leagues. He finished the season with a 3.67 ERA and a 1.22 whip, posting career highs in K per 9, 10.6, walks per 9, 2.55, and swinging strike rate, 12 and a half percent for Lance Lynn.

His first five starts, a 651 ERA, under 8Ks per 9. His swinging strike rate in those first five starts, 7.8%. His last 28 starts, pretty big sample size. 3.24 ERA, 11Ks per 9, 2 and a half walks per 9 with a 13% swinging strike rate. So first five starts got off to a little bit of a rocky start and then was great the rest of the season for Lanselin and really kind of caught people by surprise in what was Globe Life Park regarded as a hitter's park. Now we're expecting it to be a little bit more neutral in Globe Life field.

What changed last season for Lanslin? Massive gains in control also started using a slider slash cutter about four. 5% more than ever before. He threw that 16% of the time. We know that Lance Lynn is very fastball heavy. The velocity was up a tick for the fastball. 94.2 miles power also the highest of his career. Some negatives.

He did allow a lot of hard contact, 39%. Some really bad splits. 359 ERA at home, which was surprising. An ERA over 6 on the road. And he allowed an 841 OPS to left-handed batters. Scott. His ERA of what on the road? 6.01.

Really? For the whole season? Do I have that correct? Now I'm doubting myself. How do you get a 367 ERA with an ERA of six on the road? It seems. Let's see. I just want to double check. I don't doubt you work. No. Come on, Frank. It was 350 at home, 384 on the road.

Oh, you know, I was looking at the other Lance Lynn. That's why we have Scott here to keep me in place. That's what I'm talking about, Scott. Keep me in place. Fact check my work. So I want to underscore a couple of the things you said here. Right. You kind of did the season breakdown of how Lance Lynn's season broke down.

And, of course, heading into the season, nobody had any expectations for Lance Lynn whatsoever. In his best years with the Cardinals, he was kind of a number three type in fantasy. And then he had fallen on hard time since then, had some arm problems. So last year, the point, last year where people were actually invested in him in fantasy from that point on, which obviously

wouldn't have been the April when he struggled, he was an ace with a capital A. I mean, he was a stud for your fantasy team. He was at times probably pitching like the best pitcher you have. And he ended up finishing fifth in AL-Sah-Yung voting. So you may look at the overall numbers and see, okay, the ERA is above three-five, the whips above one-two, and think it was just another so-so year for Lance Lynn. But I think the way the season broke down is important because the experience of owning Lance Lynn was different than those overall numbers

would lead you to believe. The other thing I want to draw more attention to is how his pitch selection changed. Because for basically his entire career, he's really an odd pitcher of Lance Lynn and that he has three fastballs, and that's basically it. He has the four seamer, the two seamer, and the cutter that you mentioned.

They all move a little differently, but they're basically three fastballs. And he's managed to put together a solid career as a starter with that. He actually cut it down basically to two last year, just the four seamer and the cutter, got rid of the sinker. And if you look at his batting average against on the sinker, it wasn't great throughout his entire career. And that's not really a swing and miss pitch. it's more of a pitch to contact, put the ball in play, which might explain why his strikeout numbers had been underwhelming before last year.

I think that explains a lot of it right there. You see, just got rid of the weakest pitch of the three, the one that didn't generate whiffs, and then the whiff rate went up on the other two because of the way he was playing them off each other. I don't know how sustainable that is. I don't know if it'll become too predictable from one season to the next. I don't know if it was just a total fluke to begin with,

but there are so few pitchers that are capable of coming anywhere close to what Lance Lynn did once he did turn things around last year, that there comes a point where there comes a place in the rankings where I just don't feel like you can drop him below, just because you have to give yourself a chance of securing a big arm with what little is still available in the draft. And that's about where I have him, right around 35th. I think I have him maybe like 33rd, 30 seconds, something like that.

That's as far as I can justify dropping him, knowing what the upside is and knowing how risky everything that comes behind him is going to be. So, Scott, you mentioned your ranking of Lance Lynn. I have it as you have him SP28 in both formats. Okay, even higher than I thought. Okay. Yeah, and I have SP 34 in points.

I have an SP 37 in Roto. And that goes back to what we said yesterday when we had our head-to-head point strategy discussion. Lance Lynn is someone who, maybe this is just a fault of mine because last year he was actually better in Roto. But he strikes me as someone who's better for points as an accumulator, go deep into games, maybe not as good as somebody like Arias or Lazzardo on a per inning per start basis. but, you know, as someone who is going to give you a lot of endings, which helps in a head-to-head points league. Scott, Adam, Adam, pocket aces.

Would you consider Lance Lynn one of your pocket aces? Nice. No. I am not really in on Lance Lynn. Although nobody is really all that in on Lance Lynn based on his ADP. He goes after, just after Eduardo Rodriguez, in Denelson LeMet, one spot ahead of Carlos Carrasco. I imagine Carasco will go ahead of him.

People aren't really drafting now, but the last time we were drafting, Carrasco was dealing with an injury. Maybe that had something to do with it. Like, I would definitely take Carasco over Lance Lynn. Then it's like Max Fried and James, well, see James Paxson would go ahead of him. Then it's, you know, Julio is. What I'm saying is there are no certainties after Lance Lynn. So we don't live in an era where people take one season.

and overreact anymore, unfortunately. I can't just be like, everybody's stupid, you know? Lance Lynn's being drafted appropriately. So I guess, if I'm taking him in the 11th round, that's not so bad, it's worth pointing out that you might say, well, last year was the outlier. No, not in terms of ERA, it wasn't. It's only had one year in his career with an ERA over four, and that was 2018.

So if he throws 200 innings and has like a 380 ERA, and he strikes out 190 batters, it's probably going to be useful. Whip, though, is the category that I want to focus on guys, because he had been a really lousy whip pitcher, 1.32, 1.31, 1.26, 1.37. And a good pitcher. Throwing a lot of innings, you know, decent ERA,

a lot of wins, but a horrible win. whip. 1.23 in 2017, 1.53 in 2018. And then 1.22 last year, but like 1.12 or something like that after those first six starts, or first seven starts, 1.13. So can he really be a 1.13, 1.15 kind of whip guy? Or is he going to be more like the 1.22 that he finished the year with? Because if he's 1.22, if his whip is over 1.2, which it almost always is,

then I do think you're going to be looking at a high 3 ZRA. Then I think, you know, the 317 ERA he had in his last 26 starts is just not going to happen. But maybe, Scott, maybe throwing that sinker or less, the gains in control that Frank mentioned. Yeah. He always gave up a lot of hits, which I think was the main influence on the whip.

So, I mean, the walk rate was the best it's ever been last year, too. So he kind of improved in both areas. Can he maintain those gains in control, Scott? I mean, that's like my biggest question mark. 2.5 walks per night by far the best of his career. Yeah. No. To interrupt Scott, I'm sorry.

To wrap up my thoughts on Lynn and I'll let you go nuts. I think that we're going to, you know, at the end of the 2021 season, we're going to say, hey, what lessons did we learn? And we might say something like, well, you shouldn't put too much stock into someone who had a breakout year in his early 30s, you know, at age 32, even if it seemed like it was explainable. Because Lanselin is going to be worse than he was last year. The end.

Last year on the whole or last year the 317 ERA? Because the 317 ERA that you're not confident is going to happen. I don't think he's being drafted for that. On the whole, 367 ERA, 1-2-WIP, 246 strikeouts in 208 and a third. think he will be worse than that. And to be more specific, he was 13th in point, 16th in Roto. I think he'll be worse than that. Much like significantly worse.

He was seventh innings and seventh in strikeouts. So I don't know, look, if he just, if he has a bad ERA in whip, like over four, two, five, over one three, then, yeah, it's going to be a problem. It's going to be like Trevor Bauer last year. But I don't think he necessarily needs to have a low ERA and a low whip. if he's pitching deep into games as often as he is, and that's not really an oddity for his career. And if he's striking out batters at a similar rate that he did last year.

If he's top 10 in both of those categories again, then he doesn't need a sparkling ERA and WIP to justify his draft position. No, but he won't have as many innings if he doesn't have as good of an ERA in whip. You know, he won't be pitching as well. Maybe, but like I said, it wasn't an odd, the 208 and a third innings, it was technically a career high, but it was the third time he was over 200 innings. And that's in a career where a full season was lost to injury. And obviously the first season back from that, he wasn't going to pitch a ton of innings.

So I think he's an innings eater. I think he's well-established as an innings eater. That's probably the most bankable thing for Lance Lynn. It's just a question of whether, like, I know what Chris would say if he was here. but the April was so bad for Lance Lynn. It skewed the number so much. And he was obviously a different pitcher than he's ever been for the rest of the season.

And I'm not sure, I'm not sure if it's totally fair to evaluate him on the full season line or if we need to consider that maybe he really is as good as he showed after he turned things around, after he found that gear that he had never found before. I think that's at least the upside. I think it's safe to say that's the ceiling for Lance Lynn, and if that's the ceiling at the point in the draft where he's going,

I mean, has a potential to be a great value. I find I end up with Lance Lynn as like my number four starter very often. Sometimes I've gotten him as my number five starter, and that's great. I think there's really no risk to taking him if he's your fifth starter. Agreed. But yes, there is. risk here. There's risk, as you said, for every pitcher that goes after him in ADP. And a couple that you said you'd take over him, I wouldn't necessarily. Carlos Carrasco, I think the risk factors

are even more glaring for him. James Paxton, I think the risk factors are even more glaring for him. I think the upside's similar for all three. But to me, the just looking at the track record for Lance Lynn isn't as concerning as the constant health issues for James Paxton and the totally unprecedented health issue for Carlos Carrasco. All right, there's your deep dive on Lance Lynn. We've got a ton of your questions to answer on the mailbag and we'll do that right after this. All right, our first question is from Dustin Picard. Cheers. David, Nolan, Trevor, and Sam. Anything? David, Nolan, Trevor and Sam?

I can't get my mind past the Picard, to be honest to you. It's got to be, well, Trevor's story and Nolan Aeronado. David Dahl? David Dahl. Sam Hilliard. Yeah. There you go. You're good at him.

Thank you. During last Monday's podcast. Okay, after this, more nicknames. We've got more nicknames coming your way. During last Monday's podcast, you discussed the negative impact of a season in Arizona, what that may have on Rocky's hitters. On the flip side, I feel like this could be a sneaky advantage. for the Rockies.

The Coors Field Hangover is well documented. Perhaps this is the perfect balance for these hitters to have elevation consistently throughout the season without having to assimilate routinely acclimate. Yeah, no, I don't think so. What say you? I disagree. There's no advantage like Coorsfield.

There's no place like home if you're a Rockies hitter. And not only that, think about the pitchers that have to go to Corse Field and the adjustments that they have to make. They pitch an environment that is like pitching an outer space. It's just completely different. They're breaking balls don't break. So they're going to have the consistency of throwing in Arizona.

It'll be an easier adjustment for them to face the Rockies than it would be in a typical season. But again, the latest reports is that we might be playing and good chance we're playing, well, a decent chance we're playing in home stadiums. But I think Corse Field is definitely the best case scenario for Rockies hitters. Yeah, well, I don't know that I'd go definitely. I'm not entirely sure. That's the judgment call I'm making right now is that Rocky Sitters lose from going to Arizona.

But if there's an environment, that's second to, you know, up in the Rocky Mountains, it's in the dry air environment of Arizona. And those parks are made bigger like Coorsfield is for a reason. And that would have the same kind of BAP-B inflating effect. and that it'd be everywhere they played instead of just their home games, and there wouldn't be the hangover effect. So I think it's possible we're under,

we're overrating the impact it would have on Rocky's hitters. But, you know, it's just we won't know until we see it, and we may never see it. Yeah, there's no way of knowing for sure. Adam, you mentioned you have some more nicknames. What do you got? All right. I got for the stamp.

Let's see what we have. Tramped stamp so far. We've got Mr. Consonitz. We've got Detliff Stamphal, which I think is great, but better written. This one might be the best, shrimp stample. Shrimpstampful? Yeah, like shrimp scampy, shrimp scampy, shrimp stample. I love that one.

No, okay, not the best. It's fine. Lady in the Stamphal. Not bad. Frankie Podcasts. Frankie podcast That might be the best one yet You know what?

It's simple But it works I mean you've got to consider What is the intention of a nickname This is something that's kind of I've always wondered about Because some of the most famous nicknames Like I don't know

Big Unit for Randy Johnson Right Was anybody actually going around Calling him that Or was it just a name that you know, got printed somewhere. Like, right. The most enduring, can I grab me for a few minutes?

Like, yeah, I don't think that. Right, nobody was calling him that, I assume. And isn't that what the real purpose of a nickname is? Well, we want to call him that, yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I can't imagine you guys calling me Frankie Podcasts. Well, I was actually thinking that that sounds like something we'd say more often than, I don't know, lady in the stamp or.

Yeah. Or shrimp stamp. Yeah, or the usurper. Hey, the usurper, how's it going today? Board game Bravo suggested Frank the CBS Fantasy Baseball podcast host as a nickname. Keep it simple? Yeah. I don't think that's going to work.

We'll give it a rest for now. We'll come back to the nicknames a little bit later on. This one's from Ryan Gillis. Greetings from Nova Scotia. I wanted to say thanks for all you guys on the pod and the awesome FB page. It's been a rough couple months for us in Nova Scotia and everyone in general. But listening to you guys have been a nice reprieve, so thanks so much. Anyways, I had a question about switch hitters.

I remember a conversation you guys had about this. Maybe it was back in January or February when I was a mere listener. But I'm in a 15-team roto, and for me, playing time is huge. And with matchups being such a big part of the game now, is being a switch hitter an advantage? If so, why is it never mentioned as a factor? And if not, why not? It's a lost dart, isn't it?

There's just not many switch hitters left. You got two great ones on the Indians, Jose Ramirez and Francisco Lindor. I mean, I know I'm obviously missing some, but... Ozzy Albies, Josh Bell. Not a lot these days. Not a lot of great switch hitters. I think what you see from most switch hitters is that they become much better on one side than the other.

And over time, it tends to be the side they're hitting for most often, left-handed. I kind of think it's an overrated skill. And we may eventually see the point where it goes away altogether because it's just like being able to repeat, being able to practice something, getting more practiced at something is what's going to make you best at it. And switch hitting obviously works against that. It's like I don't even really understand how they're able to do it, the ones who are. But they end up becoming, for the most part, there are exceptions, but they end up becoming much better on one side than the other.

So it's like it ends up playing like somebody who bats from one side of the plate anyway. I mean, how often has, oh, we want to turn the switch hit? hitter around and have them bat righty instead of lefty, so we're going to bring the left-handed reliever in. I mean, what kind of advantage is that then if they're managing against it just like they would a left-handed hitter, you know? It effectively does the same thing. Yeah.

It just seems kind of pointless to me. And even some, like Josh Bell's a good example of someone who struggled against left-hand pitching as a right-handed batter. It's just, imagine, you know, you try to learn how to write with both hands. Like, eventually you're going to just lean on one of them. you're going to, you know, gravitate towards whatever feels more comfortable for you. And even someone like Ozzy Albies, like he hasn't performed well against, I believe it's right-handed pitching, which is the weirdest part because you would expect, you know, that's, you face more

right-handed pitching and you would expect that him batting from the left side of the plate would be more comfortable for him. It'll be interesting to watch. Mark, mark my words right now, remember this moment on the podcast as Ozzy Albi's career plays out. Over time, I think he will come to see him as being better from the left side and from the right side his production is going to diminish. So it'll flip as his career plays out just because that's what he's seeing most often. That's what he's adjusting for.

Yeah, I've thought that, Scott. But, I mean, even if you go back to his minor league numbers, it's just the difference in the splits is so drastic. Last year, he had an OPS nearly 1,100 against left-handed pitching. and it was 778 against Ritees. And again, that's going back to his minor league day. So we still have some time. He's got a long way to go.

But he's been in baseball two full seasons already. So I like Albies a lot. Look, I have ranked as my number one second basement and I'm still finding things to nitpick on him. But it is something that I found very, very weird when it comes to Ozzy Albies. I will say that the bigger conversation about handedness and hitting is lefties.

because they, most of the best hitters in fantasy are righties, and there are a lot more right-handed hitters than left-handed hitters. But you do get those years where left-handed hitters struggle against lefties. And that scares me just a little bit. It's already happened to Rappell Devers. It's already happened to Cody Bellinger. Are we convinced that they have completely slayed that dragon? It wouldn't shock me if they had a bad year against lefties,

especially older lefties. Like I think Adrian Gonzalez, when he started to just go, he couldn't hit lefties anymore. Joey Vado can't hit lefties anymore. Pretty sure Matt Carpenter can't hit lefties anymore. So, you know, that's something where I think, like, in a dynasty league, you're probably better off banking on a young right-handed hitter or maybe a mid-20s. If this guy's really young, then it's probably not a huge deal.

But a right-handed hitter, I think, will age better than a left-handed hitter. Personally. This next one's from Hugh in St. Louis. Hey, guys. I was offered a trade in a 10-te-to-head points league. I would get Tommy Fam and give up the aforementioned Lance Lynn. What do you think? I am sort of against the trade.

My outfield is Juan Soto, Ramon Luriano, Eddie Rosario, and I have Lordes Griel on my bench. I feel my outfield is not as good as most in the league, but I have a lot of SP in Scott's top 29. He has eight to be exact with Tyler Glass now, and ending with Carlos Carrasco. Last year, Tommy Fam averaged 3.2,000. fantasy points per game, which ranked as the outfield 25 in points leagues.

Your outfield may be kind of weak for a 10-team league, but I don't think Tommy fan has the sort of impact potential that's going to obviously improve it. We're going to do a 10-to-head points mock draft later this afternoon, so we'll get some more firsthand experience of how it's like. But there's such a high threshold. hold for impact that that needs to be met by hitters and especially outfielders since only three are being started and fam just seems like so middle of the road for a league this shallow that I'd rather hold on I'd rather continue to hoard that scarcer commodity because you know attrition's going to hit it and it may hit it harder than you're expecting and if it does you'll be prepared

if it doesn't then everybody's going to come looking to you later to trade for that pitching surplus and you could probably get a true impact bat and not have to settle for Tommy Fam. Yeah, I think the main point is that fam is not much better than someone like Ramon Laureano or Eddie Rosario. He might be slightly better, but I don't think it's worth making a move in order to get him in that outfield.

I don't think it improves that much, if at all. So there you go. Quick reminder that UFC 249 is this Saturday, which means you should be listening to the State of Combat podcast with Brian. Campbell. BC is back with some of the biggest names in the UFC on his bonus MMA interview pod. Anthony Pettis, Cowboy Donald Seroni, and heavyweight champs Stipe Miocchich can all be heard on this latest state of combat. Download and

subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and wherever else podcasts are found. This next question comes from Brendan. I wanted to cover a couple topics, including how ridiculous I think Vladimir Guerrero Jr. could be in Arizona. However, I believe he would be playing in the Grapefruit League. Correct, Scott? He would be playing in the Grapefruit League, yes. But, you know, one scenario that has been put out there is all teams playing in the Cactus League venues. So that's, I don't think that's off the table. There seems to be the most momentum right now for teams playing in their actual home venues, but there's a lot to work out still, so we just don't know. Yeah, he says,

I heard Scott mentioned Roger Center being a hitter-friendly Park, but I thought the dimensions were larger than average there. It is regarded as a hitter park in Rogers Center. I also love the Kevin Bigio power prediction because of how shallow left center is in the Blue Jays spring facility as well, which is something we talked about, but again, that helps, you know, left-handed power, which obviously would be Kevin Bigio. He also mentions Frank. I play in a 10-te-to-head points league with my friends from home as well, and we also agree to outlaw sparps and R-PASPs, which are relief

pitchers as starting pitchers, to preserve the integrity and balance of the player pool. So kudos to you and continue to urge listeners to do the same head-to-head points for life. And right before we started the podcast, we also got a tweet from Nicholas Nelling, who

said that he also outlawed Sparps in his head-to-head points league. Let's go. Anti-Spart movement. Take that, Adam, Aser. You know what? That's your problem. problem. 2020, the year of the sparp. It is, I mean.

So it's 2021. I play in a 10 team head-to-head league, and it's outlawed too. I think the shallower the league is, the easier it is to justify outlawing it. But when you start, you play in like a really deep league, 16 teams, 20 teams. There just aren't enough closers to go around. So having those spars in there really helps. Yeah, because unlike in categories leagues or rhodo leagues, if you have an RP spot in a points league, it needs to be a closer. No, it needs to be a closer or a starter.

You cannot have a middle reliever. You cannot have a Ceph Lugo. You need wins, you need saves, you need innings. One of those three things. The last point from Brendan was that if Chris were here. Should we address the Blue J stuff? Well, what do you think, Adam? I don't have anything to say.

I just didn't know. I thought it was just commenting on what we already said. What kind of power do you think Cabin Bigio has? Oh, yeah. I think it's the kind of power that should lead to a good home run total, but should also hurt his batting average because he sells out so much for fly balls that I just don't have much hope for him ever hitting for a good batting average. You know, he might be one of those guys who's permanently,

permanently peaking in like the 250-260 range. He's kind of like Rees Hoskins at second base, no, Scott? Yeah, yeah, kind of like that, yeah. That's actually something I thought of, too. Yeah. Hits a lot of fly balls. Doesn't make a ton of hard contact. But I think the main point was that if we did play in the spring training facilities,

the right center field fence is a little bit shorter than what is normal in Rogers Center. So that's something that would affect Cavendizio positively. Someone that can maybe approach 25 home runs and double digit steals as well. But we'll hurt your batting average. This next one's from Nevin. And I actually have to play something to answer his. question. Let's just say it starts with mount up. Uh,

Adam, you're a little early. A little anxious, hasn't heard it in a while. Sorry, it must have been all the tramp stamp talk. Oh, sorry, now I'm late. Our commission, we'll call him Grandpa Smooth Skin, is trying to start our draft next week before knowing how this season is going to run.

How are we supposed to draft relief pitchers without even knowing how many innings the games are going to be. How many what the games are going to be? Ennings. Oh, I see. Oh, you did say, you did say with the day. Yeah, wow.

Call me out, boys. How am I supposed to value Glaber without knowing if he'll play half his games with the short porch in right field? Shouldn't we wait until we know some of these basic parameters before blindly starting our draft?

Of course. Of course. Who's drafting right now? How frustrating is it when you put an email in and there's a typo in there? You have to read these. Yeah, you have to read them before. And I rarely do. Like I'll skim them, be like, oh, this looks like a good question.

But then you have to read a word for word and it's like, oh, he put blinding instead of blindly. Yep. Yeah, it trips you up. Of course, the regulators are here to tell you grandpa smooth skin to freaking chill out. You've got two months before the season starts. Chill out. Maybe more. What is Grandpa's smooth skin?

I believe that is from Baby Got Back, right? Is it? I wouldn't know. I'll check it out. Sounds like one of those old and oldy things that you guys know about. I barely do. Find anything on Grandpa's smooth skin, Adam? Just give me a minute, okay.

I think Adam answered that question well enough. We can move on to the next. Next. Yeah, he says Rumpo Smooth Skin. So I thought maybe that was like a reference to that. It's like, ooh, Rumpo Smooth skin. Yeah, anyway. Oh, damn, I'm doing a football draft.

I should have taken Patrick Mahomes there. Oh, that's what you're doing. Took Adam Thielen instead. This next one's from Alexander Chaco. FFF, Fantasy from the front. Even working in the hospital, there is a need for fantasy. Shout out to Alexander and all of our front line workers out there. We will answer your questions.

Yes, sir. Kyle Tucker, top prospect with an odd swing, power speed combo with great minor league baseball 2017, 2018, less so in 2019 numbers. The K rate was up. The batting average was down. Does his stock go up with more playing time in a compressed season, desire to give him a shot? was heating up with overall better spring than Lane Duck incumbent Josh Reddick, who also is in the last year of an expensive $13 million contract,

or is Tucker overrated? Is he below the Joe Adels, the Luis Roberts, the Gavin Luxis? Is his ADP too high at 160? What says you, Scott? This is a busy question. I'm not even sure what he means by is he below the Adel's Roberts Luxis. I assume in terms of upside, right? Because Robert's being drafted ahead of Kyle Tucker.

So this is a keeper league. I'll throw that in there. He says he has him as a possible 22nd round keeper in a standard 16-team round Roto. So 22nd round is, I mean, that's fantastic value. His other choices are Marcus Semyon, who you also like Scott in round 14, Michael Kenfordo in round 16,

and Yohan Moncada in round eight. Yeah, I don't have, I mean, based on the last two minor leagues, seasons he had. I don't have any reason to say, to believe this guy isn't going to be a great major leaguer. Now, he may not be because that's the way it goes with any prospect coming up. In the short term, I wonder about his playing time because they still have Josh Redick there and for some reason want to play him some. But I think Tucker's going to force his way into an everyday role this year. Just speaking generally in terms of the shortened season,

Whenever the start of the season is announced and, you know, the format of the season is announced, there's going to be a lot of ideas bouncing around about, okay, how much does this player's value and that player's value? But for the most part, it's going to be marginal stuff. It's not going to drastically overhaul everybody's rankings, unless, like, the only thing that would change that is if half or all the league is playing in those sports. spring sites in Arizona. That's really the only thing I'm thinking about when it comes to turning my rankings upside down. Everything else, you're talking about a tweak here, a tweak there. There's going to be a lot more talk around about it just because it's something interesting to talk about. But I worry that all that talk is going to overrate the impact of it. Kyle Tucker last year in AAA hit 266 with a 909 OPS 34 home runs with 30 steals I've never heard anyone make this comp, but I'm going to make it now.

I could see Kyle Tucker turning out to be Hunter Pence in his prime, maybe a little bit more speed. But Hunter Pence had, in 2010, 25 home runs, 18 steals while hitting 282. You know, I think if Kyle Tucker became that, 25 home runs, 20 steals, 280, 270 to 280 batting average, I think that's a fair projection for someone like Kyle Tucker. Adam, in terms of the keeper value here, if you just had to, you just had to be, to choose between Kyle Tucker round 22. This is a 16-teamian round 14. Conforto, round 16, and Yohan Moncotta, round 8.

Who would you go with? Be either Moncada or Tucker. I mean, it's that classic example of like a little bit more provenness, but a much worse value. I would probably, and if you want to just play it safe, you go with Conforto. Simeon is the one I'm definitely not doing, which maybe Scott would disagree with.

but at least you know, like, Conforto in the 16th round of a 16th team league, that's a really good pick. I actually might do that. It's kind of a low upside pick, but he's 16th round, a 16 team league for Michael Conforto. That's a really good pick. If you want to be riskier, you go with Tucker. And just to kind of go on what Scott was saying, what would change in the rankings. I think there's one more thing, though, that a guy like Kyle Tucker would benefit from. Anyone you think is good, but doesn't have playing time, I think that's going to change this year.

Gavin Lux will be another example. They're going to need bodies. They're going to cram more games into a shorter time period. The rosters are going to be bigger. But these guys, I feel like Kyle Tucker is going to have more of a chance to prove himself. If he's not just given an outright job, you know, which could be, maybe should be over Reddick, they're going to need to play him. They cannot just bury him on the bench or use him a few times a week.

So he's going to have the opportunity to show how good he is. And I think the season would benefit those guys that you're worried about their playing time because everybody's going to have to play. If I were just choosing one of these keepers, I think I would take Kyle Sucker. I have a decent amount of faith in him. Round 22, and if you could keep him for years after that, too, he's just so young, I would lean with Kyle Tucker there.

Scott, did you give an answer, definitive, you know, who you like most out of those keepers? Yeah, it's definitely. We can only take one of these. I'd probably take Simeon. Sorry, sorry, everyone. I think it takes Simeon. Three different podcasters, three different answers.

Yeah. It does make a difference whether we're talking about he holds this keeper value forever or just for this year. If it's forever, then maybe I do lean Tucker. And if it's forever, my second choice probably becomes Moncada, actually. This next one's from Matthew Jacobson, dear Frank Abagnale, Jr., Billy Costigan, Jordan Belfort, and Rick Dalton. I only know one of them. I know Frank Abagnale, Jr. You butcher that.

I messed that one up big time. Are they like con artists or something? Because that's what he is. Yeah, great movie, Frank. Catch me if you can. One of the best. I've got to watch it. I still haven't watched it.

These are, no wonder why I messed it up. These are Leonardo DiCaprio characters. Oh, okay. There you go. I feel like one of them is from Shutter Island. I think you're right. I don't know which one it is.

I just know that they're, I don't have differentiation. You often speak of players you will take later in the draft that will provide similar production as players who go two rounds earlier. Who are some players you will reach about 20 picks relative to their ADP for in drafts, specifically in points leagues?

Scott? Reach for about 20 picks? It's less about the specific player than how likely I am to find... It's more of a tears argument, I guess, is the easiest way to say it. How likely I am to find something similar, how quickly a tier of something, whether it's position or just in terms of what specifically they provide output-wise, how much of that is left. That has more of a say and how likely I am to reach for somebody.

And I'm more likely to reach in the later rounds, like for darling sleeper picks like Mark Kanna. I'm sure I've taken it. I've probably taken him as much as 40 picks before his ADP because his ADP is so low and because I think, there's only one of him. You know, there's not, okay, if I miss out on Marcana, there's this guy who I think is very similar. No, I mean, the reason I like him so much is because I think he's going to drastically outperform his draft position. So that's, that's it. And I'm sure, and because of the scarcity of high-in-starting pitchers, the scarcity of stolen bases, I've probably had reaches of 20 picks or more for one version of that or the other, just depending on the way the draft

is playing out. But it's not, in those cases, it's less for a specific place. layer than the scarcity of that thing. Kyle Tucker for me, because of the steals and everything. But, you know, it's just Kyle Tucker for sure is a guy that I'd be willing to reach for. And I always forget about him because he's DH only, but Chris Davis would be another one. Yeah, I was going to say, both of the util only guys is like Nelson Cruz too. I mean, you can't just skip out on Nelson Cruz say, oh, well, I'll get, you know, the other Nelson Cruz. I guess Chris Davis is kind of the closest comparison because he's utility only,

but Nelson Cruz is someone that gives you the production of somebody two or three rounds earlier than where he goes. His ADP right now is at 81. And I think sometimes we do see him, you know, sneak inside the fifth round, early sixth round, which would be about 20 picks earlier. So, yeah, I think Nelson Cruz is one. Chris Davis would a K is another one that I was going to bring up. They're util only, but I don't mind reaching on those guys a little bit earlier than they should. should go. Leonardo DiCaprio's character and Shutter-Eye, I know.

Teddy Daniels. I know. Not one of those four. Shove it, Scott. I was just, we couldn't leave it hanging like that. You're right, you're right, you're right. This next one's from Daniel

Bard, Baird, with all the boredom from working from home. It made me look at baseball players from yesteryear. One player that really caught my attention would have been a modern-day first-round pick slash fantasy stud in OBP

leagues. I feel like he doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. This is probably something that Chris would have got a kick out of, but what are your thoughts on Bobby Bonds? Apparently his, he has the 35th most valuable hitter season since 1947. He hit 283 with 39 home runs, 131 runs scored, 96 RBI, and 433 steals. That happened. Pulling that up right now for you. And I'm failing epically. But it did happen. That was one of Bobby Bonds's season, of course, father of Barry Bonds. That happened in 1973, Bobby Bonds. Yeah, Bobby Bonds was a great player. I feel like Chris is kind of our resident baseball historian and would probably have more to say about it than that. But I'm looking at

his year-by-year war here. I mean, he had, geez, he had one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven years of five war or greater. I mean, he's, what was his Hall of Fame voting like? Because it looks like one of those careers, kind of like Dale Murphy, where the peak was certainly there for a Hall of Fame consideration,

but he just didn't quite sustain it long enough. Yeah, he kind of flamed out early. He was out of the league by the time he was 35 and fell off after he was 33. 332 home runs and 461 steals in his career. career. I think we don't talk about how good he was just because he was so obviously overshadowed by his son. And I had the same, I had the same realization with Ken Griffey, King Griffey Sr. the other day. Now, his career wasn't as good as bonds, but it was 34 and a half war for his career.

A few seasons of right around four war hit 296 with a 359 on base percentage for his career. I mean, he was a very good player. But, you know, we only think about him in terms of he was the dad of King Griffey Jr. So kind of the same thing. Barry Bonds joined the Giants in 1993. Was that something that was forced because his father played for the Giants? Is that something that was that they tried to make happen purposely because of that? I don't know. It was just something I wondered because I was two years old at the time, so I have no idea. 1993. My first year really following baseball, like watching every game the Braves played was 1994. So any references prior to that, I am a little shaky on. But that's, so he was with the

Giants in what capacity, Bobby Bonds? Bobby Bonds played a large majority of his career, his first two, four. Oh, you're saying why did Barry Bonds choose to sign with the Giants in 1990s? Yeah, yeah. Was it because his dad played for the Giants? I don't know. I know. So the story goes. famously, the Braves had a lot of money to spend that offseason and were deciding between Barry Bonds and Greg Maddox and what they decided on was Greg Maddox. That's how the story goes among Braves fans. I don't know if that's exactly how it played out. Like I said, I wasn't following baseball on the level to really know if that's how it played out, but that's how the story goes. Who do you think they should have gone with?

Well, I mean, at the time, like Greg Maddox won three Cy Youngs right after signings. So it was like, oh, we obviously made the right choice. Yeah, I'm not sure you didn't. I guess there's, like, you're talking, you are talking about one of the greatest pitchers of all time versus one of the greatest hitters. I don't know that's. I think technically Barry Bonds had the better career than Greg Maddox, right? But they're both, what, top, certainly top 50 players. The Braves are, they're both probably top 25 players of all time, right?

The Braves are such, you know, like such a morally solid organization. I never would have let Barry Bonds get away with what he got away with. Sure. Yeah, Brian McCann would have slapped it out of his hand. We've got time for a few more of your questions here on FBT. We'll do that right after this quick break. All right, this one comes from Nick Shiner, Dear Snow. I don't know how to say this name.

Chargwa. Chargwa. Riddle and Real Muto. JT's. JT. Like Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Frank doesn't know who that is. Of course I do. Good old J.T. Thomas.

You do? Oh, is Ben Shragger. I didn't know who that was, my best. I'm in a 12 team head-to-head points custom scoring league where we have keeper contracts. As a result, we have big benches. This year, we are implementing a game-started limit. With this limit in place, is it a good idea to stock up on bench hitters instead of pitchers so we can stream hitters? Usually the top scoring teams had plenty of bench pitchers and mixed them in throughout the week, but with there being a start limit, this probably won't work unless you're going to go really hard

on playing matchups. I've never streamed hitters before, but is this feasible? Scott. Why don't you ask Adam first? Why? Adam. I was thinking about what we were just talking about.

Yeah, well, I'm trying to make a football pick here. All right, we're 12-team points league. We are implementing a game start limit. Is it a good idea to stock up? on bench hitters instead of pitchers so we can stream hitters. It sounds like this is a head-to-head points daily lineup league. Right. So ordinarily, I would say no.

If you have a start limit, though, I guess it really depends on the limit. But yeah, actually, ordinary, I wouldn't say no. Because in a categories league, I would say you want to stock up on pitchers, get some saves, get some good relievers in there, and have a shorter hitting bench. but in a points league, yeah, actually you do want to get more hitters on your bench because, my goodness, I mean, you just, you get points. It's that simple. You don't have to worry about, like, I guess a hitter could go over four or two strikeouts and you lose one point. But you don't have to worry about him hurting your batting average or your OVP or something like that. So, yes, in a points league, a daily head-to-head points league with a game start limit for pitchers, that's exactly when you should be streaming pitchers or hitters. Yeah, we still don't know how the schedule is going to play out yet, like what travel. are going to look like if there are travel days because they might just be playing in, you know, one geographic location.

But I would pick up hitters that are playing on those travel days where it's lighter days where you can pick up some points on normally it's Mondays and Thursdays. And I would also, whoever your catcher is, maybe have the second catcher in that tandem platoon situation so that you can play that catcher whenever the starter is being. See, that to me, been benched. I'd rather, I wouldn't do it with a catcher.

Like, they suck. Hey, man, every point counts at him. I guess, but it depends how many roster spots you have. Yes, if you have enough roster spots, fine. But I'd rather. It's only three or four. Like, yeah, of course, you're not going to use one of those on Kyle Higashioca. Yeah, lacking in specific in terms of how big.

What the starting pitcher, what the game start limit is. Like, if the game start limit is seven in a week, that's still, I mean, you're still going to want to have a lot of pitchers on your bench. That's only room for two double. starters a week. And yeah, I mean, I don't know. It just depends on what the specifics are here. If you're talking a big bench like 15 players, then obviously some of them are going to be hitters. But if it's, you know, eight players, then not as many. This next one's from Kyle Svenson. Hey, guys. I heard you guys talk about Dylan Carlson on the show a few times.

He has just become a free agent in my league, 12-to-head categories. Should I add him and drop one from the following list. John Birdie, Sam Hilliard, Will Myers, Mackenzie Gore, Andrew McCutcheon, Scott Kingery. Would you drop any of those players for Dylan Carlson Scott? I would drop either Gore because it's going to be a while before we see him, I think, or McCutcheon because he has the lowest impact potential of this group. I would probably lean, I would probably lean toward drop. dropping Gore. But, you know, McCutcheon I'd be fine with too

if you just can't bring yourself to let go with that upside play. Adam, what do you think? Bertie, Hilliard, Will Myers, Gore, McCutcheon, Kingery, drop one for Carlson? If they're not going to play in Cor's field, I'd drop Hilliard.

Otherwise, probably McCutcheon. Well, yeah, probably McCutcheon. If it's OBP, that's one thing. If it's batting average, then definitely McCutcheon. This next one is from Jet. Dear Rick Anibal, Max, Drew, and Justin. Well, I'm assuming Annabal is Annabal Sanchez and Max Scher.

These are tigers. These are tigers, right? Who's the Drew, though? Max Scherzer, Rick Porcelo, Annabal Sanchez, Justin Verlander. Drew. Who is in the Tigers? that tiger's rotation that was named Drew, Drew Smiley? That sounds right.

I was thinking like Drew Verhagen. I don't know why. Like a random name in my mind. That's because Justin Verlander and Drew, you went, because Frank, I thought the same thing. Hey guys, I was wondering your thoughts about Michael Fulmer. You know, I don't know how fun of a fact this is, but I love Michael Fulmer.

Fulmer was, I was all in on this guy. Stamp of approval. Stam of approval. I loved Michael Fulmer. He's making his way back. He had, I don't know, was it Tommy, I think it was like some kind of, like shoulder surgery.

It was something massive thing. I think he just had Tommy John. Was it Tommy John? I think so. I'll double check while you're reading. But he had some other things wrong with him too, just like that, I don't know. The whole arm, it's probably,

it's basically a mechanical arm at this point. Can Michael Fulmer make any impact? I don't know if it'll be this season or any more in general. It's so hard. His strikeout rate is so bad. Career 7.0 strikeout rate. How are you a good pitcher this day and age

if you can't strike people out? It's tough to bank on those types of players. It was so weird too because he threw mid-90s. He had a pretty good slider too. Yeah, he was, I think he was having trouble developing a third pitch. And, you know, he took such a big step back every year

after beating out, famously beating out Gary Sanchez for rookie of the year in 2016 with the 306 ERA and 26 starts, and then it went from 306 to 383, from 383 to 483 to 4, 69. And I'm always wondering if a guy goes really wrong right before he has Tommy John surgery, how much slack he deserves for that

because it just seems to be a common occurrence that, oh, this guy is pitching like he's not right, and, oh, look, the MRI shows he's not right. and it just takes a while to figure it out. So I still have hope for Michael Fulmer. He's 27 years old. I don't have hope for him developing into like an ace because I think that's just too big of a leap to take.

But can he be a like Marcus Stroman level starter again? I think so. Yeah, I don't think that's crazy. And reading his latest update from CBS Sports, Fulmer is throwing regularly off the mound and previously said that he's 100% pain-free, but the Tigers aren't inclined to rush him coming back off major arm operation,

which makes sense. I mean, the Tigers aren't really expected to compete this year anyway, so they want to be cautious with Fulmer. Instead, Fulmer will likely just gradually increase the intensity and frequency of his bullpen sessions at the Tigers spring training facility could perhaps return at some point in June, which, okay, if the season starts in July,

then maybe we have Michael Fulmer at that point, so. There you go. Don't forget about Michael Former. Adam, any last nicknames you want to throw out there. Of course. One moment, please. All right. How about postage?

Okay. Stampf.com. Stamps.com is a sponsor back in the day. Oh, okay. I hear them sponsor a lot of podcasts. I wasn't sure if they'd gotten around to ours. We actually used Stamps.com here at the Azer House. Free advertising.

Frankie Novowels. and Stampsonite. I was way off. That one's great. Tramp Stamp, I think, is the one I'd go with. Frank, the CBS Fantasy Baseball podcast, so this would be like 10th. Frankie Podcasts maybe would be second,

but I think I'm going Tramp Stamp. Scott, where are you going with this one? I do like Tramp Stamp. I just wonder if it's going to If it's problematic, I guess is the word The word the kids use problematic It's going to cause this grief I don't think so

It did get them The more, I didn't get more responses of any other nickname than tramps Like a lot of people came up with trams There's a lot of problematic people in the world That amazing I agree, especially on Twitter It's happening, Tramp Stamp No, you gotta put an F at the

It's Tramp Stamp. Trampf. Yeah. It's not a nickname. It's just Stamp. Your name isn't Stample. I mean, stamp is, you know, part of my name. It's there.

It's in the last name. So many consonants. So many consonants. For Adam, pocket aces. For Scott, Scotty Dubs, I am the Tramp Stamp. We will talk to you again tomorrow. We'll have some rankings debates on tomorrow's edition, Friday edition, of Fantasy Baseball today.

Thank you all for listening. Bye-bye.