Fantasy Baseball Today - Michael Harris On Fire, Pitcher Questions & Evaluating Young Hitters! (9/25 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Michael Harris is on fire all of a sudden (2:20)! ... Spencer Schwellenbach dominated the Mets (7:05). ... The Giants stomped the Dbacks (14:16). ... News (23:44): Francisco Lindor was out again. ... These hitters are finishing strong (30:27). ... Cole Ragans' velocity was way down (35:20). ... What do we make of these four young hitters (45:10)? ... Could these pitchers be weekend streamers (55:29)? ... We wrap up with leftovers, bullpen updates and streamers (57:45). Fantasy Baseball Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday Download and Follow Fantasy Baseball Today on Spotify: https://sptfy.com/QiKv Get awesome Fantasy Baseball Today merch here: http://bit.ly/3y8dUqi Follow FBT on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fbtpod?_t=8WyMkPdKOJ1&_r=1 Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy. Now here's Frank Scott and Chris. Hello, and welcome in Tough Fantasy Baseball today on Wednesday, September 25th. I am Frank Sample joined by Chris Towers.

Today on the show, five hitters who are finishing the season. Got some pitcher questions, taking a closer look at some young hitters we haven't talked about in a while, and much more. Let's jump in. Is this happening? It is. All right, Chris, I am going to kick us off here because I want to talk about Michael Harris, who is on fire. I brought him up last week as where do you think this guy is going to be drafted next year? And basically since then, he has just gone crazy. He has five straight multi-hit games.

and a big one here on Tuesday, pretty much a must-win series here for the Braves going up against the Mets. Michael Harris went three for four with the 16th home run, 111.5 exit velocity, 422 feet. Last 13 games, he is batting 417 with seven homers, 16 runs,

13 RBI, one steel, 95 mile per hour average exit velocity, crazy barrel rate. Yeah, he's absolutely on fire now. He is leading off the Atlanta, a Braves lineup. And, you know, I was trying to think, how can Michael Harris get near the top of the Braves lineup in 2025? Because that seems like it would go a long way to helping his fantasy value. Like, if Acuna's healthy, I think there's no doubt he's going to lead off. Can they slide

Albies down to fifth in the lineup and kind of go Acuna, Harris, Riley, Olson, Albies? That kind of seems reasonable. Oh, well, they have Ozuna too. I don't know, man. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah, it's one, I do just expect the Braves lineup to be better in 2025 than it has been in 2024, probably unreasonable to expect it to be as good as it was last year when I don't know, every player had like an 800 OPS in the lineup. But I do think it will be better. And yeah, I think it comes down to Albies and how much faith they have in him. bouncing back. And what's worth noting there is it's been a disappointing season for Michael Harris. He's been better now than Albies if you go by OPS. He's right around 730 right now. Albies is still

right around 700. That makes two of the past three seasons where Harris has been the better hitter than Albies. And I might just take Harris moving forward as the better hitter. Albies. Allie. will be 28 next season. Harris, I believe, is he's only like 23, right? That sounds right. He is, yeah, he turns 24. Four in March, yeah. So, you know, I think you probably, like,

they might just defer to the veteran, the offensive, you know, not centerpiece, but one of the offensive centerpieces in Ozzie Albis for most of the last decade and give him the edge. but I do think there's a legitimate argument and a legitimate chance that Harris could be ahead of all of these. You know, he's less of an ideal number two guy because he's not a high OVP guy, but then again, neither is.

He doesn't walk a ton. Yeah. So I think you can make a case for it. I think it really would help because there's a huge difference between batting six, seventh, or eighth, and batting second in a lineup. you're talking about probably 80 played appearances over the course of a season, if not more. So that is the one thing that I think Michael Harris would need to do. But I mostly feel okay about just writing this season off and viewing him more or less how I did coming into the season. And the fact that he's closing out the season so strong certainly helps in that regard.

So I am not done with my initial run of outfielder rankings. I'm thinking I might have a an out like a full position by position rankings ready for next week on the FBT newsletter I think he's going to be top 15 for me though again that's Michael Harris whose ADP was 34.4 entering this season

lots of hype as we started to get closer to opening day with Michael Harris and I wonder what that discount is going to be I asked you last week. I think you said either round six or round seven. It'll probably be a little bit higher than that, especially with this strong finish. You know, round five, round six. If we get a two to three round

discount based on where he was drafted this year, he's still young enough. He's entering the prime of his career. And as we pointed out, hopefully, if these guys hit to their capability, the top six in the Braves lineup is still very formidable with Acuna Albi's, Olson, Riley,

Ozuna, Harris, in some order, hoping for a big bounce next season for the Atlanta Braves. Let's stick with that team. Chris, your player of the night is Spencer Schwellenbach. Spencer Schwellenbach, who we've talked a lot about in the second half. And for good reason, he went seven innings, gave up one run today against the Mets. Only four strikeouts.

Strikeouts have been a little up and down lately, but he's just been phenomenal, basically since July 1st. He had a 568 ERA. at the end of June. And since then, let me make sure I have this number right. He has been top 15 among starting pitchers since July 1st before going seven innings with one earn run and getting a win on Tuesday night.

So could potentially be a top 12 starting pitcher since July 1st. And overall, since his debut, he's been a top 28 pitcher. starting pitcher again before tonight. And we've talked a lot about the component parts for Spencer Schwellenbach, but I think it's worth highlighting again. 26.3% strikeout rate, good for 27th among 124 pitchers who have thrown at least 100 innings this season. 4.9% walk rate.

I was entering Tuesday start where he only walked one. That was the 13th best mark among pitchers with at least 100 innings. The only pitcher. who have both a higher strikeout rate and a lower walk rate than Spencer Schwellenbach are Logan Gilbert, Joe Ryan, and Terrick Scoobel, which is pretty good company to be keeping. I mean, that's two top 12 starting pitchers in fantasy. And, you know, I don't think Joe Ryan was going to be top 12, but he wasn't far off before his injury. So you add in the fact that he's got pretty average results on balls and play. And you're talking about a guy who was 18th.

in XERA, again, entering tonight's start will likely be even higher than that. And so when you're talking about where to rank Spencer Schoenbach for 2025, I don't think it's a stretch to say he has top 12 upside. I don't think it's a stretch to say that there is really not that much of a difference in skill between Spencer Schwellenbach and guys like Logan Gilbert or George Kirby, who are going to likely be top 12 starting pitchers for next season. in the rankings and an ADP. I think there's even more strikeout upside than he's shown.

You know, the curveball and splitter are elite swing and miss pitches. He's 12th, I believe, in swinging strike rate this season at 13.8%. The problem is he's a converted reliever from college who had Tommy John surgery and through 65 innings last season, his first season in professional ball. He is, if he makes one more start or, you know, they make a touchdown. to the postseason, almost certainly going to finish with more than 100 innings than he threw last season. Now, the so-called Verducci effect has been overstated.

Like, there is no, if you just look at this one thing, it can tell you who's going to get hurt at starting pitcher. That's not how it works. But I think 100 more innings than you ever thrown in a season is a reasonable red flag. So I think it's okay to downgrade spend. or Schwellenbach, but if you just took what he's done at face value and the fact that he's going to be 25 years old and the fact that he is clearly ascending and has gotten better in the second half. I think you can make a case that he's a top 20 starting pitcher for 2025.

I don't think you should rank him that way and I don't think you'll need to. I think it's reasonable to downgrade him a little bit because of injury red flags. but that's still probably a top 30 starting pitcher definitely top 36 and the way I'm viewing it and I wrote about this for the FBT newsletter tomorrow is top 36-ish it might be 38th you know when I actually go through it might be 30th but that range feels right to me I think higher man I think it's too low I think yeah I think Schwellenbach I think for all the reasons that you just laid out, like the fantasy baseball industry now is so smart. And we all have access to the same numbers and the fact that he is too amazing with pitches. The

swinging strike rate is great. He should be pitching for a good team. The K-minus walk rate is there. Good job on limiting hard contact so far. Like everything is there for Schwellenbach to be the breakout pitcher in 2025. And I think a lot of people are going to realize that. And what you said about, he might not be that different skills-wise than someone like Logan Gilbert or George Kirby, who are going to be ranked in the top 12, maybe top 15. You downgrade him a little bit because we haven't seen him do it before and maybe a little bit of concerns about workload. You downgrade him from there and he still kind of ranked as like a top 24, top 25 starting

pitcher. And that's, look, I don't know for sure that this is what's going to happen. But my early lean is I think he's probably going to be one of those helium pitchers that drafted like a fringe SP2, you know, low end SP2 high end SP3 type. Like Bailey over. Yeah. Entering this season, which we'll get to it later, but it hasn't worked out as well as you might have liked. And look, I think there is something to be said for like this type of pitcher potentially getting overrated.

You know, the small sample size, K minus walk darlings, you know, like K minus walk ratio is a very useful step. And, you know, I know some very smart people have said if you could pick just one step. to judge a pitcher by and nothing else, K-minus walk rate would be the one to go with. Yeah. But then you look at like the guys who are ahead of Spencer, Schroenbach, he's 13th, mostly elite pitchers,

but also Nick Povetta, always a K-minus walk rate, darling. It is not foolproof for sure. You say Kukuchi, good pitcher. Yeah. Not an ace. Very Nick Povetta-E. Better than Nick Povetta, but, you know.

They have similar wards. You know, Bailey Ober has had his ups and downs. Tanner Bybee has had his ups and downs, Pablo Lopez. Those guys are all a little bit below Swellenbach, but in the same range. So it's just to say that like, I think pushing him into the top 24 is probably going too far. But we'll see. You know, I haven't actually ranked it yet. So like that was just not even eyeballing.

I didn't like go through and say, yes, I'd rather have this. I know I'd rather have Shmellenbach. Maybe, yeah, maybe 30th is too low. Maybe I'm not being aggressive enough. Oh my goodness gracious. Just wanted to point out the Padres just ended their game with the Dodgers with a triple play,

which is pretty crazy stuff. A 5-4-3 triple play around the horn to end that game there. Oh my goodness gracious, lineup wanted to give the Giants some shine here, playing spoiler against the D-backs, who very clearly need to win every game right now.

The Giants put up 11 runs on 14 hits, including five homers. Elliot Ramos, 4 for 5 with his 22nd home run. Michael Conforto, 1 for 5 with his 20th homer, and Tyler Fitzgerald, 2 for 4 with his 15th home run of the season. Just wanted to take a couple of minutes here to look at Ramos and Tyler Fitzgerald. We haven't talked about Ramos in a long time. He got called up and was great right out of the gate.

He has taken a step back here in the second half, 229 batting average, seven homers, four steals, those are okay. 665 OPS. You know, I looked into it, there's nothing under the hood that seems that bad. I don't exactly know why the numbers aren't there. 25% strikeout rate is okay. 90.7 average exit velocity seems fine. 14% barrel rate seems really good.

So maybe some bad luck here for Ramos. Everything else, like the quality of contact, the expected stats, they all look really good. I think Ramos is in play as like a, you know, outfielder three heading into next season. Yeah, I'm trying to think of some like comps for his skill set, like relatively high strikeout rate, relatively low walk rate. You know what came to mind?

Eloy Jimenez when healthy. Yeah. I want to say Eloy was probably at his best, at least a bigger standout both in contact and quality of contact. So, you know, maybe that one, like the one that came to mind, and I don't know if this is, but like Mitch Hanager, when things were going well for him a couple years ago, I could see that. Yeah, was never a great plate discipline guy, didn't have much speed, hit the ball hard, but didn't have like massive raw power. That might be, and that ended up being a fairly volatile profile, but I think a lot of that was injuries. Now, the thing that Ramos has working against him, really tough home park.

And that's just kind of always going to make it tough. You know, we've seen a lot of guys in San Francisco, you know, who we think are very, very good, but just never quite put it all together. And, you know, I think overall it's probably a top 36 outfielder for next year. Sounds right. You know, again, just eyeball. I haven't finished outfield rankings either, but I think it's a skill set to like, and I think you look at the overall package and the expected stats largely back up the overall production.

I think you just take the slump in the second half in stride, and you don't overreact to that. You don't overreact to the hot start. And you just look at it and say, yeah, he's a solid hitter, but probably not a star. Yeah, if you just look at the expected stats, he's a 250 hitting 25 home run, 800 OPS bat. That's probably a third outfielder.

And that's, you know, it's not an elite standout player, but it's a very serviceable fantasy outfielder. Again, that is Elliot Ramos. Could be a 10th steel guy. You know, um, Lordus Guerriel, like the good Lordus Guerriel seasons,

he's definitely been like a top 30 outfielder, obviously again, a guy who hasn't been as consistent as you'd like. But when he's been at his best, That feels like a decent comp. More strikeouts for Ramos, but that could be one. Tyler Fitzgerald, by the way, this was his first home run since August 14th. So you and Scott kind of called this.

It's not going to last. We knew that. He was, you know, looked like one of the best hitters in baseball for like a month stretch there. But 31 games between homers. Tyler Fitzgerald hit 231 with a 554 OPS, 37% strikeout rate, zero barrels during that span. And look, I don't want to just. completely poo-poo the guy because when you put it all together,

92 games played the season. He's hit 287 with 15 homers and 17 seals. That's still a really, really good player, especially at that pace. I still don't know what to make of it for next season and beyond, but the fact is he has showed some level of skill, at least in terms of power and speed in Tyler Fitzgerald. Yeah, I think the speed is the one thing that feels most projectable for Tyler Fitzgerald looking ahead to 2025 and you know he could legitimately be a 30 steel guy if he was an everyday player I think probably like I know he has 15 homers in 92 games I think the true talent level

is probably more like 15ish homers over a full season and so you know you put that together with what is it now a 232 xBA it's a tough profile to make make work, probably just a middle infielder in a Roto league. But as a late round pick, which I think is probably where he ends up, I think Tyler Fitzgerald could be fine. But it also feels like a profile that could just collapse. Even as good as he's been this year, I think there's a non-zero chance he's not on the opening day roster next year.

It feels like the kind of thing where you could see a four. 40% strikeout rate in spring training, and they just decide that they can't go with him as they're starting shortstop for 2025. Again, that is Tyler Fitzgerald. The updated playoff picture, by the way, this week is obviously pivotal for many teams. And it's just really fun because it's kind of a sneak peak of the playoffs. And these games are really, really starting to matter.

They have mattered. But, you know, just there's a microscope on a lot of the games and series going on right now. Congrats to the Astros and Orioles. the Astros clinched the AL West, the Orioles clinched a playoff spot. As for the AL Wildcard, both the Tigers and Royals won, the Twins and Mariners lost.

So the twins are two games behind. The Mariners are two and a half. And for the NL wild card, the Braves beat the Mets, the D-backs lost. The Braves are now just half a game behind the Arizona Diamondbacks. So the Tigers are up to an 87.7.7% chance

of making the playoffs, according to Fangraphs, playoff odds. Crazy. It's even, It's even wilder than you think. On September 15th, 10 days ago, their playoff odds were 9.9%. Wow.

Jumped 80 percentage points. Yeah. I was looking at Terrick Scoobal because he could make one more start. And if he did, he would have a chance to pass Chris Sale for the strikeout. He's actually currently the strikeout leader, but Sale has one more start. Has a chance to lead the majors in ERN. strikeouts and wins, which hasn't happened since Johan Santana. Chris Sale also has a chance to do it, by the way.

He probably isn't going to make another start. There's five games left. There's only there are two games up now. That's wild. How do we get here where like the Tigers might be resting players this weekend? The best story in the second half, the Detroit Tigers there. Quick reminder to sign up for the FBT newsletter if you haven't already or stick with it for this off season. Obviously, you know, full.

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Let's take our first break, and when we return, we'll hit the news and notes right after this. Welcome back in news and notes. Francisco Lindor remained out of the lineup Tuesday due to that lingering back issue. He's now missed eight straight. Luis Anheel Acuna started in his place. And there is some hope that Lindor could return on Wednesday. The Met's starting to feel the heat a little bit.

So maybe even if he's not 100%, they're going to try and get Lindor back in the lineup. Yor Don Alvarez was out again Tuesday due to that right knee sprain. Alvarez hoped to get summit bats this weekend against the Guardians. Austin Riley will not return the season. He underwent a CT scan Monday, which showed that his hand fracture is healing slower than expected. Josh Young was officially placed on the aisle

with right wrist tendonitis. Max Muncie was back in the lineup after missing Sunday with side soreness. Ronaldo Lopez threw a bullpen on Tuesday and could potentially return before the end of the regular season. He is on the aisle with right shoulder inflammation. Gabriel Moreno returned to the lineup

after missing Monday with left adductor, tightness. Sayas Suzuki was removed due to a sprained right ankle. Michael Bush left Tuesday's game after getting hit by a pitch on his right arm. Matt Walner was removed due to left oblique tightness. Gavin Stone was transferred to the 60-day IL and will not return this season. He's out with right shoulder inflammation. Ryan Malkassel was reinstated from the IL. Eloy Jimenez accepted his option to AAA. The Dodgers promoted one of their pitching prospects, Eduardo Enriquez. Number 15, prospect, according to MLB pipeline in the Dodgers organization. He's 22 years old, big season in the minors, 272 ERA, 123 whip, 88 strikeouts over

53 innings, mostly has pitched out of the bullpen in his minor league career. He struck out two in a scoreless inning in his debut. And I think... Did he his cutter? I didn't get to exact... I had it on in the background. I wasn't watching, but I know that he struck out too and he was hitting like 1001 miles per hour.

Yeah, he was hitting 101. he averaged 99 with his fastballed the cutter there's a little Bruce Star Gratterol there where he just throws fastballs and cutters but the cutter like looked almost like a like a curveball at least the one I saw like it had a ton of drop it's wild yeah so he threw 17 pitches

nine fast balls eight cutters yeah pretty pretty good spin on the cutter 2577 average RPM and yeah he averaged 99.1 miles per hour on that fastball, as you mentioned. You know, just a name in deeper dynasty leagues. Who's to say he can't work his way into like the Dodgers closer mix in future years? They clearly have not had a go-to guy. I know it was like mostly Evan Phillips last year.

This year has kind of been a bit of a mess. They have Michael Kopeck under contract for next season, but it's not crazy. Who's to say he's not in the rotation next year? Yeah. So just the name, Deeper Dynasty Leagues, Edgaro Enriquez. The Orioles officially released Craig Kimberl on Tuesday. As Siri Ruiz underwent right knee arthroscopic surgery. He only got 29 games in with the A's this season.

Red Sox prospect Christian Campbell was named Baseball America's minor league player of the year, 22 years old, a fourth round pick in last year's draft. And this season in the minors hit 3.30 with 20 homers, 24 steals, a 997 OPS between high A, AA, AA, and AAA. A, based on the fact that he made it to AAA at 22 years old, as long as he doesn't fall flat on his face next year, I would guess we see him with the Red Sox at some point in 2025. Yeah, he had a 179 way to run Creative Plus over the course of the full season, which was by far the highest of anyone with at least 400 played appearances, according to the athletic. Number two was 160. So that's a, that's a gigantic gap.

And it tells you that the where he was playing was also, you know, potentially holding his stats back. Yeah, it's, it's been a huge, huge improvement for him, uh, 2020 season, I think. Um, pretty good plate apparent, uh, plate discipline as well. So like Roman Anthony's probably ahead of him. You would have to think, but yeah, they're, they're going to have to make some room pretty early on next. year. Campbell plays infield and outfield, right? I think he had primarily second base.

Played multiple positions, but yeah, I can pull that up real quick. Yeah, so I don't know if, you know, if Von Grissom is really going to get another chance next season. It's been kind of a lost season for him. Obviously, we know Trevor Story has missed a ton of time. So there are going to be opportunities for, you know, this big four in Boston with Roman Anthony, arguably the top prospect in baseball, Marcelo Meyer, top 20 guy, Christopher Campbell, probably 50.

Overall, if not a little higher. I think Steele, who also made it to AAA there. I think first round picked last year as a catcher. So a lot of fun young names at on the verge in Boston. Well, we'll see if any of them make the opening day roster. but they'll all be factors for 20-25 for sure. Yeah, the Red Sox are coming, man. They have a very good nucleus of young players

that are getting ready to make an impact in 2025. Christian Campbell has played all over the place in his minor league career. Second base, third base, shortstop, left field, center field, right field. He's played second base the most, shortstop, the second most, and then center field third most. So clearly a great athlete who can play any position up the middle. So Red Sox can have to make some trades at some point. They got too many guys.

They still need more pitching. Yeah, I don't know if like... Turn some of these hitters into pitching, you know? I don't know if Sedan Rafael or Brian Abraeur are going to make it through this next wave of top prospects. Will you are a Brayor? Yeah. That can make some sense. Yeah.

Willier Abrae you for, I don't know, like a some like a SP3 or SP4? I saw some Red Sox fan tweeted like Marcello Meyer or yeah, Marcello. Meyer for Sandy Alcantra and like it's not crazy I think I would do that but I would hate it yeah no I totally get that and the biggest news of all Chris John Sterling has come out of retirement to call the rest of the Yankees games this week as well as their postseason games so how about that I'm not going to make the joke I want to make it's fine don't don't do it uh hitters who picked things up in September we already spoke about Michael Harris some other names here Bryce Harper two for four with his 30th home run in September he's

batting 325 with four home runs, two steals, 976 OPS. As good as Harper has been this year, it's a little bit weird that his counting stats are down, 84 runs, 87 RBI. It's, you know, we said something similar about Yordon Alvarez like a month ago. Yeah. I think those numbers caught up because he's just been red hot. Well, it's, it's kind of like Jose Ramirez last year. Yeah.

And the Phillies, you know, look, there have been some ups and downs, but they won the NLE East. Like, they've had a good lineup all season long. It's just weird to me. The majors and runs, right? No, no. They are fourth in the majors and runs. Yeah, it's like, how does Harper not have more counting sets?

Yeah. Feels a little weird there. Yeah, it feels like an easy bet on regression for next season positively. Yeah. Lane Thomas continues his hot September 1 for 4 with his 15th home run, 3 RBI in September, batting 288 with 7 home runs, 20 RBI, and a 946 OPS. Trevor's story continues to hit since returning 2 for 5 with 2 doubles, a run and an RBI, batting 278 with 2.

two homers, five steals, 794 OPS since returning. And Kyle Tucker won for four with his 23rd home run. Last 12 games, the dude is back. 381, four homers, OPS around 1,200. And the full season pace for Kyle Tucker this year, 49 homers, 23 steals. And it's been like his best plate discipline season too, right? He just keeps getting better.

Yeah, and it's weird because he's, uh, yeah, 17.2% walk rate more walks than strikeouts for the season. Wow. And like he's going to be 28 next season. So you would think this is about as good as he's going to get, except that every single season he seems to get a little bit better at something, if not everything. And so, yeah, I don't really think the shin injury is something we should be worried about for

next season. I guess the general weirdness around the aspect. Castro's handling of injuries this season, but I don't know. I think he's, if not a first rounder, and I think he should be. He's certainly in the first round discussion. Yeah, I think he's like a locked in top eight or nine pick. Yeah. And actually, in head to head points too, which hasn't necessarily been his best format in the past. Anything you wanted to add on Lane Thomas or Trevor Story, who are finishing strong? Um, story, I think it's just more fodder, for the late round upside that we've talked about a decent amount lately.

Lane Thomas, I can't really figure out. Partially, it's just I don't know what his role is going to be. I don't know what his contract situation is for next season. Looks like he's not a free agent this offseason. So is he going to be an everyday player for Cleveland next season? I don't know. That's the biggest question for me. But yeah, the fact that he has bounced back a little bit lately, look, he's going to end up with 15 homers, 30 plus steals.

Pretty bad batting average. I think that's all about what we should expect from him moving forward. And if he is an everyday player, I think it's probably feel better about as a fourth outfielder in a Roto league. But, you know, non-zero power, very useful speed. and actually 32 steals, but 14 cot stealing. So that's a stat that when a guy has an unusually low stolen base percentage, it usually goes one of two ways, right? They either stop running as much or the stolen base percentage improves the following season.

I would bet more on the latter. So there is, I think, 35 steel, maybe 40 steel upside at the high end for Lane Thomas. Especially with the Guardians. I know a new manager this year in Stephen Vote, but if I am not mistaken, I believe they have still been pretty aggressive on the base paths this season. I could quickly pull up their team steals.

Yeah, they are fifth in stolen bases. So that should bode well for Lane Thomas. Yeah, yeah. He has 20 steals in, no, sorry. He was looking at the wrong. Okay, he only has four steals in 49 games since getting to Cleveland. So has not been running much.

he has a 279 on base percentage and like 16 of his 34 hits have either been doubles or home run. So he might just have had not very many opportunities to run. But that given how much his value does, I think, hinge on being a plus plus base dealer. That's a concern. Yeah. Again, that was Elaine Thomas. Let's get into some pitcher questions. We already spoke about Spencer Schwellenbach.

Let's talk about Cole Riggins who turned in another strong start up against the nationals. Six shutout innings with six strikeouts. He had 11 whiffs on 89 pitches. But the velocity down across the board, big time. Fastball down 2 miles per hour, change up down 2 miles per hour, slider down 2.6 miles per hour. The fastball 93.4 was a season low

in terms of miles per hour in this one. I looked to see if maybe it was a little bit colder here, you know, just around the country. It was 66 degrees. I really don't think that's cold enough to matter that much. And we kind of have seen some velocity fluctuations here in the second half. I mean, it just kind of gets your, the wheels turning thinking about another player whose innings have jumped a lot from one year to the next and how might that affect him in 2025. And there's been a

little bit of a drop in effectiveness in the second half. And we've seen his velocity has trailed off over the course of the season. His walk rate has jumped from 7.9 to, 9.9% in the second half, his strikeout rate, I think has dropped from like 30 to 29% or 28%. So it's been a couple of points either way. I think it's okay to view these

as red flags for him. You know, the big innings jump, the declining velocity as the season's gone on. I think it's okay to view those as red flags. Here's the question. How many starting pitchers in the majors

check off both of these boxes. One, do not have any red flags. Right there, you've got like, I don't know, maybe 19 pitchers total, maybe like 26. There's guys like Michael Waka who just like, it doesn't matter. Like Chris Bassett, he doesn't get hurt, but like who cares? So that's, that's one box. We've already taken out most starting pitchers. And then the other box is how many realistically have even comparable upside to what Cole Regens has shown this season? I think it's probably like 25 as well. How many of them have both of those categories?

I can't imagine it's more than 12. So I think Cole Regens is probably going to be a top 12 starting pitching for 2025. Like he's going to end up with what a 325 ERA, 220 something strikeouts? That's pretty good. I think I'll rank him there. It's just a matter of, will you draft him there? Will you be the one to draft Cole Regans in the third round

if it costs that much? I think that's the question, right? Does it get to, are we going to see a movement away from high end starting pitchers first? I think that's pretty likely. I would be kind of surprised if any starting pitchers were drafted in the top 15 in ADP in 2025. I could see.

Scoobble. Scoobel, yeah. So like is that going to have the effect of like is Cole Reagan's SP12 but he goes in the fourth round? That seems pretty easy to stomach. Yeah. If it's, you know, third round, it gets a little diceier. So, you know, obviously look, we're going to have a at least another start from Cole Reagan's, if not multiple. So we'll see how it looks.

If he gets blown up and the velocity's still down, that's a little. concerning, but he's been really good throughout the season, despite some red flags. So I don't want to, I don't want to overreact. Let's talk about Logan Webb, who was back on track with a quality start at the Dback, six shutout innings with three strikeouts, only nine wiffs on 95 pitches. And he changed up the pitch mix in the start. He threw a cutter, 21% of the time. That was only 2% usage entering the start. It was okay, three whiffs, 25% whiff rated. It's, it's, it. did well on balls and play. But this tells me that he's kind of searching right now, Chris,

because that change-up has just been so inconsistent this season. You know, what's been his bread and butter in previous years, I mean, that was part of the reason why, you know, I think he was the top three Sy Young finisher last year is because that change-up was so, so good. It has regressed mightily this season, and it just kind of feels like Logan Webb is searching. And it worked, at least in this start.

Yeah, I didn't realize that, he had been throwing a cutter more in the month of September, basically didn't throw it before September. And then his usage has been 6%, 6%, 6%, 20% in the last start. And then 21% today. It's a super small sample size. And during today, he had thrown 62 of them total. So I don't know if you can really draw any conclusions about it one way or the other.

But in that small sample size, it has been an effective pitch at both generating whiffs and generating weak contact, 79.6 mile per hour average exit velocity, 143 Wobah allowed. So I think it's a positive sign that he's searching because like you said, this season, the change up effectiveness has really been hit or miss. there was a stretch in, I think, August or maybe July where it was really, really good again. And then there was, but the whiff rate overall, I think is below 20%, or right around 20%. 21.4. And so I, if the cutter can be just another effective weapon for him, I don't think it's likely to change Logan Webb's profile. But if it can stabilize him a bit and give him another option when the changeup isn't working, I think that's only a good thing.

But I think you look at the overall profile for Logan Webb. And 347 ERA, mediocre strikeouts, mediocre for a must start pitcher whip, that's probably what he is. You're going to get a ton of innings, though. He's one of the more reliable sources of volume at starting pitcher right now. And it all adds up to a guy who you feel good about it as your SP3. you can live with as an SP2, but you need to find strikeout somewhere

if that's what it ends up as. Yeah, it just feels like such an uninspiring SP2 for next season. Like, Sky and I brought up Arindola yesterday, like similar uninspiring SP2. Would you take Spencer Schwellenbach over either of those guys? Like Nola or Logan Webb?

That probably depends on who I took first, right? Or I guess where, like if we're talking about guys who fall to like, I don't know, the seventh round range and you're picking between them, that probably means that I'm chasing upside. And I think Spencer Schwellenbach probably has a little more of that. But like you pointed out,

the strikeout rate has fallen off a bit as the season's gone on. His Spencer Schrolandbach's strikeout rate in the limited sample size we saw in the minors, not elite, much less than a strikeout printing last season. So it is possible that Spencer Schoenbach is more of a run-of-the-mill strikeout pitcher, in which case, yeah, you'd probably rather have the safety and stability of an Aaron Nola or Logan Webb. So I think I'll rank Nola and Webb ahead of Swellenbach, but I don't know. They certainly don't have the upside. Like Framber Faldes is another one where I think he's just a better version of Logan Webb right now.

but that's a similar one where you're mostly drafting for safety. And that's an iffy decision to make at starting pitcher where basically nobody's actually safe. All right, let's take our final break. When we return, we'll take a closer look at four young hitters. And three of them playing well, Dylan Cruz. I don't know. Let's check back in.

We'll do that right after this. Welcome back in. Let's take a closer look at four. young hitters. Kyle Manzardo starting to figure things out here. One for three with a walk and his fifth home run in 20 games since being recalled. He's betting 3.14.

Five homers in OPS over 1,000. 23% strikeout rate is solid. 51% fly ball, 46% pull. So doing exactly what we want in terms of power. 14% barrel rate. Not playing every single day he started just 15 of 22 games

since being called up. But I think this develop some confidence, at least for Kyle Manzardo as a late round sleeper heading into 2025. Absolutely. As a late round sleeper, I think he makes a lot of sense. And I think the question is, will the guardians view him as an everyday player for 2025? And there's not a lot in his profile that suggests he shouldn't be. Throw in his minor league stats in with his major league stats. He has 21 strikeouts and 108 played appearances this season. That's below a 20% strikeout rate.

Last season, it was 33 and 131 games. That's about a 25% strikeout rate. Is that only against lefties? Only against lefties, yes. Okay, yeah, that's good. He's hit for a decent amount of power this season against lefties as well. And it's like we talk about all the time. If you're a young left-handed hitter,

the biggest thing is just don't be unplayable against lefties. And Kyle Manzardo doesn't look unplayable against lefties. It's just a will the guardians trust him and give him the space that he needs, the opportunity that he needs to play every day. I hope so. I think he's a viable late round sleeper for 2025 now. Yeah. As a corner infielder, I think that makes some sense for Kyle Manzardo.

I'm writing it down right now. going to probably early on in the off season do some way too early sleepers breakouts and bus. Kyle Manzardo, 1B Guardians, locked in as a sleeper. Let's go. We haven't heard much about Dylan Cruz lately because that's because he has slowed down. O for four with three strikeouts here on Tuesday. He's one for 26, one for 24, excuse me, over his past six games. And overall, he's batting just 196 with a 576 OPS. Played to a disarmes. Played to looks solid, zone contact is really good, swinging strike rate. Actually, the plate discipline looks really good for Dylan Cruz so far. The biggest issue is that he has a 61% ground ball rate,

and ground balls were not really an issue for him in the minor. So we've seen lots of big name prospects get called up and not be great right away. I think that's part of the calculation here for Dylan Cruz. And I think I would still be pretty excited about him for next year. Yeah, I think you look at it and it's a 61% zone swing rate league average is 67% probably just not picking the right pitches to swing at first pitch swing rate only 21.5% league average 30% there that's one where seems to me like he's on the wrong side of the passive versus patience dichotomy and look that's it's a 22 year old with very limited minor league experience, what, less than 150 games total in the minors.

Like that all makes a lot of sense. Everything's probably just moving a little fast for him. But you look at the underlying stuff and like he doesn't swing and miss at an alarming rate on pitches in the zone, which is probably the most important thing. He doesn't chase a ton. The quality of contact metrics aren't great, especially. You know, you see the ground ball rate being a problem. but like he hits the ball pretty hard already.

I don't see a ton to be concerned about in the long run with Dylan Cruz. It took him a little while to figure things out in the minors as well as a professional. And look, maybe it's like less of a can't miss profile than we thought. You know, there were reasons to think that after his minor league debut. And so maybe he's not a guaranteed superstar. Nobody is, but he seemed like a pretty good bet, and maybe he no longer is. I think he's a pretty good bet to be a good player, though. Colton Couser destroyed a baseball here on Tuesday.

His 23rd home run, 113.6 exit velocity, 432 feet. And it's been an interesting season for Couser. Had that huge April. He was pretty bad in May and June. He had a huge July, kicked off that second half. And then he's just kind of been so-so in August and September. since the start of August batting 237 with seven home runs and OPS near 750. I don't know what to make of Kouser.

Like he strikes out too much. The underlying plate discipline stuff doesn't look that bad. He does hit the ball extremely hard. Like looks like he should be a good power hitter. Like more than a 23 home run hitter. Who do you think you'll have higher for next season? Colton Kouser or Elliot Ramos? Gosh, they're the same age.

They feel pretty similar except Kouser's strikeout rate is higher. Couser's strikeout rates higher He's in a better lineup He probably Speed is probably pretty similar Couser's got better foot speed But they both have They're gonna end up with a similar

Stolen Base pace I guess is the way to put it My gut was to say Couser But I wonder if I'm just You know Kind of defaulting to prospect pedigree there Yeah The one thing with Couser is

The numbers against lefties aren't great. It's like a low 600 OPS. When you look into the underlying stats, it's still there. He has a 346 ex-Woba against righties. He has a 298 ex-WOBA against lefties. The whiff rate is very similar though. It's actually a 30.3% whiff rate against righties, 30.6 against lefties. That, you know, the quality of contact is significantly worse against lefties. But if he's not swinging and missing that much against lefties, that suggests that it could be an area for rapid improvement for him. So I think Kouser's ceiling's probably a little higher.

And I do not want to rule out a young player getting better against lefties because I've made that mistake in the past. You know, sometimes they do not improve against lefties. It's absolutely sure. But, you know, just two names that stand out this season. Gunner Henderson and CJ Abrams, I had those concerns for both of them. And they both improved massively against lefties. And even someone like Raphael Devers, when he first came up, I remember I was scared of the same

thing. He's like, will he hit against lefties? And he's turned out to be serviceable against them. And obviously, he's an elite fantasy player. So like, not saying Colton Couser is ever going to get there. But, you know, Kouser had some pretty big prospect pedigree coming into the season. And he's had an okay season. I think one that he can build on heading into next year.

Let's wrap up with talking about Mason Wynn, who's had a solid season 2 for 5 with his 15th home run for RBI. He's hitting 266. He's got 78 run scored. 11 steals. You know, I just wish he ran more, Chris. 87th percentile sprint speed certainly seems fast enough to run more. The Cardinals, not the most aggressive.

They're 21st in steals as a team this season. But Mason Wynn had 43 steals in the minors back in 2022. So I kind of feel like he's capable. of at least providing 20 plus steals, it's just a matter of being more aggressive. This is, I think, one of the most frustrating things about this season, actually, because when,

before Mason Wynn got moved into the lead-off spot, he was hitting in the bottom four spots in the lineup, and he had, let's count them up. 13, 36, 42 starts, batting 6th, 8th, or 9. And he had seven stolen bases in those 46 starts. about a 30 steel pace, maybe a 25 steel pace,

something like that. He started 97 games as the leadoff hitter. He only has four steals on six attempts in 97 games. Weird. Adding lead off. That's weird because if anything, you would think he would run more as a lead off hitter. That's usually how it happens.

A lot of teams kind of don't let guys run unless they're batting lead off. And so that is, I think, it would really tie the room together if he was a 25 stolen base guy because I think Mason win you know the 15 home runs I don't know how much more room there is for growth but you know maybe 18 maybe 20 in a peak season I think his 266 batting average given the fact that he doesn't strike out very much seems pretty safe maybe even some room to get to like 280 there.

And it's just like, but if he's going to steal seven bases, it doesn't matter. That's not a viable fantasy option. Yeah. Unless he scores 110 runs or something. But like,

it's just a very boring profile. It's like J.P. Crawford or something. If he steals 30 bases, which I think he's fully capable of, now you start to put him into that like Anthony Volpe, Andres Jimenez group where it's like,

these aren't superstars by any means, but they're very good fantasy options, or at least guys that you're starting in most Roto leagues. And, you know, 105 games at AAA, 17 steals, 86 games at AA, 288 steals. He's certainly capable of being a 30 steel guy. And I hope they let him because I think that's the pivot point on Mason Wins' fantasy career. All right, let's wrap up some potential streamers. Chris, he said we were done with Waverwire. That's so fast.

What about if you play in daily lineup leagues, anyone listening? You might be looking at some streamers for this weekend. And Dean Kramer pitched well up against the Yankees, five innings, one run, three strikeouts. He is at the Twins this weekend. Jonathan Cannon, a strong start against the Angels, six shutout innings with seven strikeouts. And he is at the Tigers.

Jack Kohanowitz. He did it again, this time against the White Sox. Seven shutout with four strikeouts. Last eight starts, 263 ERA 105 whip. He's home against the Rangers this weekend. And Ryan Feltoner has been pitching well. Six innings who runs six strikeouts here against the Cardinals. The problem, he faces the Dodgers and Coorsfield.

So I think he's out of the running. I don't know, Chris. Anything, any interest in streaming these names this weekend? I know Cannon has had stretches this season where he's been pretty decent. I know Jack Kohanowitz is in a stretch where he has been more than decent. You are never going to get me to buy into these guys. Like this is 19 strikeouts in 51 and a third innings for Jack Kohanelis. I'm sorry.

This is not 1992. That would be a bad strikeout rate for 1992. By the way, that's like, I don't know, Christy Matthewsend's strikeout numbers. Like that that's that's that that is not a viable approach. And I don't know, like maybe he has another good start and it all looks, it makes me look stupid again. But I just, I cannot co-sign this. If you want to start Jack O'Hanowitz or Jonathan Cannon, it's, it's your call. I'm not going to tell you to.

And Dean Kramer, I, the twins have been really bad. offensively lately. So that's probably the best of this group. And look, if you need volume, if you need strikeouts on that last day of the season, I'll go Kramer ahead of Kohanowitz and Jonathan Cannon, certainly. Yeah, I think that's fair. Some leftovers, we will start with pitchers,

Terk Scouble, another gem up against Tampa Bay, seven shutout innings with seven strikeouts, 18 whiffs on 103 pitches. He is now up to 20, 22 quality starts that is tied for second most in baseball. 18 wins are tied for the most in baseball with Chris Sale. Tanner Bybee, a gem up against the red. Seven innings, one run, seven strikeouts.

16 whiffs on 88 pitches has pitched very well in the month of September. Bauden-Francis pitched well, looked to be limited a bit here against the Red Sox. five shutout innings with four strikeouts only through 71 pitches. Last nine starts for Bauden-Franc. 153 ERA, 0.53 whip. Crazy. And Bailey Ober was not at his best at home against the Marlins in a crucial game. Five innings, four runs, seven strikeouts, 14 whiffs on 89 pitches. I think maybe he was a little bit unlucky.

Only three hard hits. He had a 500 bad up against. So maybe a little bit of bad luck there for Bailey Ober. But Chris, anything on him, Bouten Francis, Tanner Bybee, and Terrick Scouble. The school is the best pitcher in baseball. He's the number one pitcher for fantasy in 2025. I do not think we need to belabor the point. Tanner Bybee, it hasn't quite been the season that we hoped for.

Like he hasn't taken the step forward. But then you step back and you look at it all and it's like 34070 RA 112 whip more than a strikeout per inning. Like it's pretty good. It's just not like the ace outcome that some were hoping for. and I'm interested to see where he ends up getting drafted next season. Is he a top 24 starting pitcher? My, that feels high. Just thinking about it right now,

closer to like top 30. Yeah, I think he's been in the 30 range for me for most of the season. I'd feel good about him as my SP3. I think so, yeah. But it is like, does he, is there a path forward to more? You know, I think the- Throwing his fastball less.

I think maybe that can get him there. Yeah, because he does have several very good swing and miss secondaries. And the fastball's not a bad pitch. It's just all the other pitches feel a little better. But I don't know. It's one of those things where like, are we judging him against some imagined scenario where he's better? That always is a little unfair. And like what he is good.

Yeah. It's just like feels like he couldn't. be great and it feels like this is the kind of pitcher that in the past Cleveland has made go from good to great and it hasn't happened yet Francis

is that's a tough one because like it certainly feels like there's regression coming it's just not going to happen this season and I like is he

a is he a forfeiting? ERA pitcher? Is he a 360 ERA pitcher? I think anything in that range is possible. And I like the growth that he's shown in the second half since, you know, really focusing on that splitter, I think you're probably talking about a top 200 pick next year. Probably not a lot more than that though, right?

Like I think there's limited strikeout upside. The spliter, the last couple of starts hasn't really been all that. effective for him and yet he has been effective in spite of it. So I don't know if it's just the threat of that. I don't know, man. He has he has a 153 ERA and a 53 whip over the last nine starts. There's no like there's no analysis of that unless he had a 40% strikeout rate, which he doesn't. It's like half that. Yeah. So it's just impossible to to really analyze what he's done. He's, he's hit, you know, we'll make the craps analogy again, even though none of us, neither of us actually understands crap.

He's hit sevens eight times in a row or whatever unlikely thing happens in craps. And you just can't, you can't predict that, but that doesn't mean it's not real in some way. Yeah. And it's kind of the opposite for Bailey Ober, where he's just had a run of bad luck across a handful of starts. And if you take those starts away, he looks really good.

That's Scott's case for him in his bold prediction as the AL-Sai Young next year. It's just also he has a 394 ERA and a 380 FIP and a 384 X-FIP. And he's probably a mid-to-high-3s ERA guy with a really good whip and pretty good strikeouts. And there's a lot to like there. I just don't know if I necessarily see the big step forward coming for Bailey Ober. Yeah, like based on those numbers, it kind of feels like him and Tanner Bibi should be in a similar range, right? And if we're talking about Bibi as like closer to SP 30 as your SP3,

then, you know, I think that's probably the right range for Ober. And Scott's talking about Ober as like a top 15 starting pitcher. So, I mean, look, we're allowed to have disconnect. Scott's allowed to have his opinions and we're allowed to, you know, disagree. I really like the pitcher that Ober is. And I'm not going to rule out the possibility of him improving and maybe limiting more of those like blowoffs.

upstarts for next season, but, you know, to this point, we haven't really seen that. It's been like a high threes ERA and a really good whip so far in Billy Ober's career, and that's probably just what I'm going to trust him to do next year until he shows me otherwise. Two hitting leftovers, Brandon Lau has homered in back-to-back games. The batting average has plummeted since the start of August. He's batting just 220, and a massive breakout season for Willie Adomis just had to mention it again. two for four with a walk and his 20th steel. He's one of six players to go 30-20 this season.

The other five being Otani, Gunner Henderson, Jose Ramirez, Bobby Witt Jr., and Francisco Lindor, all five of which are going to be first-round picks or close to first-round picks next season. Willie Adamas will not be anywhere close to that. Contract year, we'll see where he winds up. Clearly, I think this is going to turn out to be a career year for him, but figuring out how,

early is too early to draft. Willia Domas will be interesting, I think, for next season. He had 30 steals in about 720 career games entering this season. He has 20 now and 155. Yeah. That feels

like the most career contract year aspect of this, right? Because that's the thing he can control. He can't control that he happened to hit, I don't know, 46 home runs with with two runners on base or whatever the number was. I think it's like 14 major league record.

But yeah, like, you know, who was it? Bryce Harper, the weirdly low RBI totals. William Domas is the opposite. Weirdly massive RBI totals. That's not sustainable. I don't know. I think I had him like seventh or eighth in my shortstop rankings, but it's a really deep position.

And like picking between him and O'Neill Cruz, I think is going to be really, tough for 2025. Do you think Adomis will be worthy of like a top 75 pick mix here? Would you be the one making that pick? Those are different questions. I'm more prepared to answer

the first one. Yeah. I think I will probably be fading. Willie Adamas coming off this career year, but it's also possible that everybody else is fading him and I end up being the one who takes him but top 75 feels a little iffy.

Some bullpen updates for the Royals, Lucas Ursaig, got the 10th inning with a one-run lead. The Manfred Man on second base, he struck out two for his 12th save. For the Orioles, Sir Anthony Dominguez got the final two outs for his 11th save. For the Marlins, Jesus Tinoco recorded the final five outs for his third save. He did not allow a base runner, and he's looked pretty impressive so far. For the White Sox, somebody named Justin Anderson got the ninth inning with a one-run lead. He walked one, but picked up his first save of the season. For the Astros, Josh Hader recorded the final four outs, via strikeout for his 34th save

and for the Padres, Robert Suarez got the ninth inning with a three-run lead. He gave up a run on three hits, was in a pickle, had runners on first and second with no outs, and he got a triple play to end the game and picked up his 35th save of the season.

One thing, I don't know if you you didn't mention this in the news, but James MacArthur and Hunter Harvey have both been ruled out for the rest of the season, I believe for the postseason. Wow. As well, which is not a great sign for Casey's bullpen, but should keep Lucas Erseg in the,

in the closures role. Yeah, for sure. To stream or not to stream on Wednesday, we have Cody Bradford at the Oakland A's, Simeon Woods Richardson facing the Marlins, Edward Cabrera at the Twins. Can you stream anybody against the White Sox, Jose Suarez at the White Sox, DJ Hurst, faces the Royals,

Zach Lattel at the Tigers, Jacob Junis at the Guardians. There's some pretty good ones on Wednesday. Yeah, I think Bradford at Oakland. I think Lattel. Lattel at Detroit. And I don't know, man. I could see either Edward Cabrero

or Simeon Woods Richardson having decent games, but I don't love the idea of starting them. So maybe DJ Hers. I think the top. two are clear, though. Yeah, I agree with your top two, and then I would probably go Simeon Woods Richardson. I think

Jacob Junis at Cleveland could be sneaky as well. On Thursday, we have Aaron Savali at the Pirates. We have Reese Olson up against Tampa Bay. He has been kind of limited since returning. Tyler Anderson at the White Sox and Kumar Rocker at Oakland and David Festa

versus the Marlins. I think Tyler Anderson's probably the best choice here. Then Savali and then I wouldn't be surprised if Rocker or Festa had good starts. It's just I don't want to say trust them because I don't trust either of them. But I could certainly see both having good starts. Yeah.

I would go Tyler Anderson, then probably Festa and then Savali. Kumar Rocker, I'm excited to watch the start and see how it goes. But he's been pretty limited so far in his first two. And I would probably expect the same here at Oakland. We are going to wrap there for Chris. I am Frank. Thanks as always for tuning in to fantasy baseball today. Please make sure to follow and leave a five-star rating on Apple or Spotify.

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