Fantasy Baseball Today - MLB Draft First Round Recap; RBI and Wins Sleepers (06/11 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: June 11, 2020

Today on the show we're recapping the first round of the MLB Draft with R.J. Anderson of CBSsports.com but first, Rob Manfred said there will 100% be a baseball season in 2020! How does R.J. evaluate ...first overall pick Spencer Torkelson (2:33)? Who's his MLB comp and when should we expect him in the majors? ... Austin Martin was regarded by many as a top-two player. Why did he fall to the fifth pick (7:00)? What's his long-term outlook? ... The Orioles surprised many by taking Heston Kjerstad second overall (11:33). Who is his MLB comp and can he be fast-tracked to the majors? ... Max Meyer was the first pitcher off the board to the Miami Marlins (13:48). Long-term is he a starter or reliever? ... Why is Garrett Crochet the ultimate risk-reward pick (16:05)? ... Was Asa Lacy the best pitcher in the draft (18:32)? ... Who is the comp for Emerson Hancock (20:17)? ... Who were some of the steals who went later in the first round (26:39)? ... When it comes to sleepers for RBI, many are tied to home runs (32:15). Basically draft all Yankees. ... What things correlate most with wins for starting pitchers (43:05)? Why are we targeting Twins, Masahiro Tanaka, and Jose Urquidy? ... Email us at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com. 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @CBSFantasyBB, @AdamAizer, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Download our printable Draft Kit from CBSSports.com/draftkit! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. I drive, center field, and swing. This is magnificent. Got a fantasy question, email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy becomes reality. Now here's Frank, Scott, Chris, and Adam. Hey there, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Welcome to Fantasy Baseball today on a Thursday, June 11th. Frank Stanful here with Scott White, and our special guest, get into in just a second. Scott, I've got to say, I'm tired today, man. How are you feeling? Were you up celebrating all night like I was? Because there was baseball, like a live baseball event happening? Is that what you're talking about? Not entirely. It's more so that Rob Manfred guaranteed that we will have a season 100%. Although at this point it might just be 20 games. I don't know
Starting point is 00:01:01 I mean I didn't take that as especially big news because it seemed like that he has the authority to set the length of the season if they are going to pay the players pro-rated salary so I've been operating under that assumption for a while now but I guess it was reassuring for some folks out there who and look it does like he can say it and it doesn't necessarily mean anything either There's also that aspect to it.
Starting point is 00:01:28 So, you know, yeah, I mean, I said it on the podcast yesterday. There is going to be a season. It's just a question at this point of how long it's going to be. And based on the lines being drawn by both sides, I suspect 48 games is what we're looking at. Baseball coming to a TV near you. But today on the show, we are recapping the first round of the MLB draft. And then later on, we'll get into some sleepers in the RB. and wins categories.
Starting point is 00:01:58 One man who I know was not celebrating last night because he was too busy working during the draft is R.J. Anderson baseball writer for CBSports.com. RJ, how's everything going? I hope you and the family are staying safe, man. Yeah, we are. And thank you for asking and hopefully the same issue of both y'all as well.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah, absolutely. Everything's good on my end here, although NYC is kind of crazy nowadays. We're slowly ramping things up and we'll get there eventually. But so far, so good. you can find some of RJ's takeaways from the first round of the MLB draft right now over at CBSports.com slash MLB.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Let's jump right in and start with the first overall pick here, RJ. Spencer Torkelson out of Arizona State selected by the Detroit Tigers. In 129 collegiate games, Torkelson hit 337 with 54 home runs. RJ, tell us a little bit more about the pick. We really see right-handed hitting first baseman as the first overall pick, but apparently I know this is something. you wrote about, the Tigers plan to try him out at third base? Yeah, he's actually the first collegiate first baseman ever selected number one.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So congratulations to Mr. Torkelson on that. But they did announce him as a third baseman, and it's an interesting call. It's one that he didn't even seem aware of until he was announced by Mr. Romanofford. I don't think it's going to work. It's not unusual for teams to throw their draftees and at the deep end of the defensive spectrum and then, you know, retrieve them as they progress up the minor leagues level. And frankly, if you're wanting to delay his arrival a little bit, which we know big league teams would never mess with service time.
Starting point is 00:03:32 But if you wanted to, this is one way to do that where you play him at a position that, frankly, he's probably never going to see a major league start at. And then, you know, later on, you can say, okay, we're going to move him back to first base. Let's just give him a little time to settle in at the minor league level initially. Then we'll bring him up to the major. So I don't think he's going to be a third baseman. But when we're talking about Torelson, what we're really talking about is his bat. he is a chance to be a very, very good hitter. You know, he has the strength, the eye, the bat speed,
Starting point is 00:04:01 basically everything you want in a hiter. You know, he's going to hit for average. He's going to take his walks. He's going to hit for power. So it's really just a question of when will the Tigers bring him to the majors? If we were working under a normal Meyer League system, I would say by the end of next year, you could be in the majors because we're a little weird right now due to the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I'm not sure if that'll happen, but I do think he's going to move quickly through the system and be potentially their cleanup hitter as soon as opening day, 2022. Yeah. Excuse me. 2021, not 2020. No, 2022. I'm right.
Starting point is 00:04:33 My gosh. I've seen some, some timetables that involve, you know, late 2021, early 2022. What do you think about a player comp when it comes to Torkelson? Because you said that you have faith in the hit tool. I've seen some comps to Pete Alonzo, but I mean, if the hit tool is there, then he could potentially hit for a better batting average than someone like Pete Alonzo? Yeah, the Alonzo cop is out there, and I think that's certainly a shade of what he could do. You know, you never know of the hits until you actually see them against big league pitching,
Starting point is 00:05:03 especially with the caliber of arm you see in the majors nowadays. The cop I've been using is Paul Goldschmet, just because he's a right-hand first baseman who hits for average, again, walks, hits for power. Maybe he falls somewhere in between Alonzo and Goldschmidt. The Evercom that gets thrown out there a lot with Torkelson is to Andrew Vaughn, who was the number three pick in last year's draft by the Chicago White Sox, played in the same conference, right-hand first baseman from Cal. I had one source in the industry described.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Torkelson is a less tools-y bond to me, which, you know, there's an argument to be had down the road there. But at the end of the day, you know, Torkelson has a chance to be a pretty good first baseman. So that's a pretty awesome comp, Paul Goldschman. I mean, that was a guy who, In years past, got some talk of being the number one overall pick and fantasy. Are you somebody who plays fantasy baseball yourself, RJ? I used to play it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I used to play it poorly. Well, obviously in fantasy baseball, offensive impact is all we care about. Defense only matters to the extent it earns a player playing time in a first overall pick. I mean, that's not going to be a question for Spencer Torkelson, whether he's a full-time player eventually. knowing he was drafted first pretty much exclusively for his bat and he'll probably be on the fast track.
Starting point is 00:06:28 There's no question of all the prospects taken yesterday. This would be the first one to target in a dynasty league as well, right? Yeah, I think that's fair to say because of what you're saying about the offensive value and how defense doesn't necessarily come into play. I guess there are some arguments to be made about the positional value. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a guy like Austin Martin,
Starting point is 00:06:52 maybe he would have a little bit more value just because he can play multiple positions, assuming that is Toronto's plan for him. But yeah, I think Torquison's a defensible pick. You bring up Martin who we, I think most everybody was projecting him to go second. Yeah. And then he dropped to fifth to the Blue Jays there. What's your impression of him falling? and what's just your impression of him in general?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah, so we'll start with the second part. I had him rank number one on the board, so I look kind of stupid today. But, you know, I think he's just such a dynamic fit in this era, positionless baseball. This is a guy who has experience at third base, second base, played in center field this year. He's probably going to improve in center field with more repetitions
Starting point is 00:07:36 to kind of just threw him out there. And, you know, he didn't look horrible out there. So worst case scenario, you're talking about a guy who maybe has to move to left field and play second base, and that still has value. But offensively, you know, he really commands the strike zone. He has a very good feel for making contacts. He was actually the most difficult batter in the power conferences to strike out during this abbreviated season.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So he can hit for average. He's going to take his walks. And oh, by the way, he can run a little bit. And if you look at his exit velocities, there's reason to believe he's going to hit for more power as he matures. And I know it was hitting coach at Vanderbilt, Mike Baxter, who obviously used to play in the majors, believes that power potential is going to be there for him. He's going to tap into it. So I just see a very well-rounded player who can contribute in all categories. And I think, you know, at least in real world, in real world, you know, we don't necessarily properly value the guys who can fill in these different positions, you know, the Ben Zobras, the Whitmery fields, even the Scott King raised.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So I think he has a chance to be underrated in, you know, the real world as well as perhaps in fans. because of that. But as it pertains to him slipping, you know, it's interesting because I didn't really hear a reason for that. Maybe there's concern about his position. Maybe there's some skepticism about him tapping into that power. Otherwise, I don't only have a good reason for it. I guess teams maybe just like different players better, which, you know, that's perfectly fair.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And maybe they like the price tags better, too. I was wondering about the power aspect specifically because it, you know, particularly the era we're in in baseball where it seems like everybody who's anybody is going to hit 20 plus home runs. Someone who falls short of that, they really have to do some special things otherwise to matter, especially in like a fantasy
Starting point is 00:09:25 baseball sense. I saw some comps for Austin Martin to like Dan Svyswanson, who of course has established himself as a full-time major leaguer. So it'd be, you know, you can't say he was like a bust or anything close to it. But just considering he was a former number one overall pick. The output's been kind of disappointing so far.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So do you think that's a fair comp or are you more hopeful for Martin than you are for maybe Swanson taking a step forward at this point? You know, I get the comparison, but I also think it's a little lazy because, you know, we're not sitting here comparing Spencer Tarvelson to Ike Davis or Brett Wallace and they were both, you know, Arizona State corner infielders. And so comparing Martin to a former Vanderbilt shortstop, you know, how much of that is a legit comparison, how much of that is just kind of a lazy comparison. You know, we're grabbing the first player who we can think of from Vanderbilt, who went, you know, the top five or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I don't know. I just, when I see Martin, and you talked about in this era of baseball, how you have to hit 20 home runs to be somebody, when I look at Martin, I see the same underlying skills and attributes that I see in a lot of these players who have developed unexpected power, you know, be it mooky bets, be it Jose Ramirez, or, you know, some of these ever instances because he's so good at making contact and he's so good at minding his zone. So for me, I'm viewing that power potential and his offensive potential with optimism. And maybe I'm wrong about this and maybe team sees something that I didn't see.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But that's the way I'm coming at it, you know, when it comes to those Dan's response and comparisons, really any kind of, you know, outlook for him and his offensive potential. I like that call that you made there in terms of him being able to develop power down the line, guys like Mukie Betts and Jose Ramirez, because if he has that, control over the strike zone and has the exit velocity. We've seen teams be able to kind of teach players how to raise their launch angle. So if he can do that and hit line drives and start to hit more fly balls at the major league level, then we could potentially see some of that power come to fruition here for Austin Martin. When it comes to the Orioles, they were the team that
Starting point is 00:11:34 passed on Austin Martin second overall. And they surprised many people by taking Heston Kerstad, second overall. Apparently he was regarded as the best left-handed power hitter in the draft, but there may be some concern over his swing, over his plate discipline. You know, what's at you when it comes to Kirstad going second overall? Yeah, the comparison I have for him is to Corey Dickerson. And the reason I say that is because he's this big body left-handed hitter who is a bad ball hitter. And when you watch Kirstad, he hits balls hard, but frankly he shouldn't even swing at. You know, balls way up in the zone or even above the zone.
Starting point is 00:12:09 zone, balls below the zone. It just really gives me, you know, that Corey Dickerson feel. And I don't say that as an insult because Cory Dickerson's been an above average hiter his entire career. You know, if there's one thing Corey Dickerson can do, it's hit. So first add, I think there are also some positive indicators. You know, he cut into his strikeout rate. He improved his contact rate this year, both in the zone and outside of it. And yeah, I think he has a chance to be a good hitter. There is risk there because, again, with a bad ball hitter, you're not quite sure if that's going to translate. But, you know, he played against SEC competition. He fared well. He's seemingly improving in areas that you would like to see him improve. And so, yeah, I think he has a chance
Starting point is 00:12:49 to be a good corner outfielder and an above average hitter. Should he have been the second overall pick? You know, that's a little more difficult to answer. It kind of depends on what they do with some of those presumed savings. He's 21 years old. Some people think that he can move rather quickly throughout the minors. What do you think about his potential ETA for the Baltimore? or Orioles. Yeah, I mean, he should, right? He's SEC tested. He's, you know, the bat's not going to be a question, or excuse me, you know, the defense and all that, it's going to be fine. It's not going to be anything spectacular. But so long as he hits and shows he can hit against, you know, professional pitching, he should fly through that system and we should be
Starting point is 00:13:27 seeing him during that 2020 season. And I know I misspoke earlier, Ryan said Torkelson would be on opening day. You know, these guys are probably had their service time manipulated. We'll probably see them more closer than June or 2020, but make no mistake. I think they both could be up under normal circumstances by the end of next year if we had a Meyer league season this year and they could get their feet wet. So there were a couple of surprises right off the top here in the draft. The Orioles pick was one of them, but I'm interested in the guy the Marlins took third overall, Max Meyer, hard throwing, righty.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I know David Sampson talked today that maybe they, took him in the hopes they would could potentially make the playoffs an expanded playoff scenario. I don't see how there's any chance of that happening. But do you see him as a guy who could be fast-tracked to fill a bullpen role or do you
Starting point is 00:14:20 see him more as a starter? Yeah, so I called him the murder hornet because he's a really small righty, but he's fierce big fastball, swing and miss slider. Just a very competitive kid, good athlete. He actually, you know, if you go on YouTube, you can find a clip with him hitting a home run this season. So, you know, he's just a very good athlete. You know, I don't think it's going to come
Starting point is 00:14:41 into play with Miami, but I did have a scout tell me fairly early in this process that if Meyer were to slip to that 10 to 13 block where he had the angels and the reds and the white socks selecting, and one of them got their hands on him, they could easily see him pitch out of the bullpen this season, especially given the weird pandemic situation and how we may not have, you know, the Meyer league sees it and how, you know, teams are going to want fresh-armed pitchers. And because he didn't have to throw a full spring and summer, he could fit into that. And same with some other pitchers in this class like Reed Detmer's and, you know, guys were probably going to talk about in a few minutes.
Starting point is 00:15:15 But I don't think that I'll be into play this year. With regards to Myers' long-term outlook, I think you have to let him start until he just proves incapable of it because of the stuff and because of the upside there. And, you know, if you're trying to get a mental picture of how big Max Meyer is, think Sunny Gray. And Sunny Gray has shown he can work. Marcus Stroman has shown it can work with the way that teams are rethinking, starting pitching workloads. Maybe it's more likely to work now than it would, say, 10, 15 years ago.
Starting point is 00:15:44 So I think you have to start him until he just proves he's incapable of doing it. So there's another pitcher who went a few picks later who I know there's some uncertainty over his long-term role starter or relief. But I was just introduced to him yesterday and was like the highlights I saw just totally wowed me. And that was who the white sucks took in round one Garrett crochet. Yeah. Big left hander 6 foot 6 and high spin fastball touches triple digits, right? I mean, he looks like, like if you want upside, he looks like a pitcher to target. Yeah, and he comes of a lot of risks too.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He's basically like the risk reward pick in the top 15 or so because, you know, he just said all the positive things. And then when he go to his baseball reference page and you look at what he did in Tennessee and you realize only like 13 of his 36 appearances were starts. And it's like, wait a second. You know, why is this guy mostly a reliever? But yeah, he has this stuff to be a very interesting big league starting pitcher. And he's one of those guys who I just kind of. of reference that would Meyer, he could potentially debut, make his professional debut this year out of a bullpen.
Starting point is 00:17:03 You know, we've seen the White Sox do this before of Chris Sale. They brought him up, let him pitch out of the bullpen. You know, he has the fastball slider combination that could make him a late inning reliever, like right now, provided he'd throw strikes. And so he's an interesting one to watch, not just for the long term, but also the short term. Well, what would be keeping him from starting? Because I'm looking at the scouting reports. It looks like he has three pitches.
Starting point is 00:17:26 is that great as plus. You mentioned the slider. His change-up also looks pretty good, and he has the size you would think to take on a big workload. So what would be holding him back? And this is Garrett Crochet, by the way. Yeah, Garrett Crochet. You know, Command's always an issue for these guys
Starting point is 00:17:43 who, you know, kind of split their... Well, I would say, for one thing, Command, because, you know, during his college, Gary walked, I think it was like three, something. Also, just the lack of starting experience, you know, How is he going to handle that workload? And can he keep his stuff over 200 innings or 150 innings or what have you?
Starting point is 00:18:04 But yeah, I guess those are the main things for me because he wasn't very successful in his freshman season. And I don't know. I guess it's just a combination of those things for me. But I think you have to start him, you know, have an intent to start him. And then, again, if he proves incapable, then you move him to the bullpen. But yeah, I think it's basically just you have to be able to see that he can actually do it. before you 100% buy-in that he can do it. It's like the availability heuristic, basically.
Starting point is 00:18:32 RJ, A. Salacey went forth overall to the Kansas City Royals. The Royals are just loading up on starting pitchers the past couple of seasons in their farm system as well. So it'll be interesting to see what their pitching looks like in the next couple of years. But let's just say you're on the clock in a Dynasty Fantasy Baseball League, which is you can keep these players for their entire career. Is Aisa Lacey the first pitcher that you're looking to,
Starting point is 00:18:56 take there? Yeah, probably, because he has so many innate attributes that teams look for in their starters. One thing, he's left-handed, which gives him an advantage over Emerson Hancock and Max Meyer. Granted, it doesn't give him an advantage over Garrett Crochet, but he is more established than Crochet. He has two pitches the greatest elite using the track man data. That's his fastball and his slider. He knows he's well regarded as a competitor, as a student of a game. I mean, this is you know, he has the body. The only catch of Lacey is his command. And I know he improved it this year, but in the past,
Starting point is 00:19:34 he was pretty wild to the point where if he took his career walk rate, he would basically be like the highest in the majors. So there is some risk here. It's not a short thing. But I think Lacey just has, you know, that upside, but it's hard to overlook. If he goes, if everything goes really well for him, he could turn into a patch of Corbyn type.
Starting point is 00:19:52 If things go mostly well, you're probably talking like a Robbie Ray type. So I think that's a pretty good spectrum to have as your upside, especially in fantasy settings because, you know, he's probably going to strike out a lot of guys regardless of his walk rate. Yeah, no, I like this comp. That sounds good. One pitcher you didn't mention when we're talking about potentially
Starting point is 00:20:13 the first pitcher you'd take in a fantasy, a dynasty league, Emerson Hancock. And, you know, when I was kind of just doing a little preliminary research before the draft last night, I felt like he was the pitcher who stood out most to me. It looks like he has a full arsenal and all the velocity upside. You'd look for the Mariners took him, I think, sixth overall, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah, what do you think of Emerson, Hancock? Yeah, he's very interesting to me. And, you know, we're kind of breaking it down to Lacey, Meyer, Hancock. Let's be clear, like, during the list building process, those three were kind of interchangeable for a little while. But with Hancock, you know, he's got the body. He kind of looks like Mike Minor and Jason Hamill physically. And yeah, he has these three pitches.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And his basketball is a high-spin fastball. I think it's over 2,500 RPM. And I actually talked. I forget. I think it was MLB Network I was watching last night, but they did a side-by-side comparison with his RPM on his fastball and Justin Verlanders and it being really close. Don't set the kid up for failure.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But, yeah. And I talked to his pitching coach at the University of Georgia, Sean Kenny. And it was funny because he told me they actually stressed to Emerson, you can pitch up in the zone with this fastball. It's going to jump over bats up there. And he struggled with that a little bit because his command and control are so good that if he's missing up,
Starting point is 00:21:39 it feels like a mistake to him. Or if he's throwing up, I should say, it feels like a mistake, like he missed the spot. So I think that's going to be something that, you know, the mayor is going to have to work with him on elevating more. It's just, you know, taking advantage of that pitches innate attributes.
Starting point is 00:21:53 As far as the secondary pitches, I had one scout telling me they actually thought it was change up as better as a freshman and that it took a step backward this season. But then you have a slider. You know, he has a chance for three above average pitches. It's going to be interesting to see what Seattle does with him from a pitch design standpoint because he does have the qualities that, you know, I think I referenced this on the site, you know, people didn't think Shane Bieber was going to be like this until Shane Bieber became like this. And if you're comparing Beaver and Hancock, it kind of similar physically, they both throw a ton of strikes. I don't know. I'm not saying Hancock is going to become Shane Bieber. I'm just saying I think that Hancock's upside probably does get discounted a little more than it should.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Because in this pitch design era, it's possible based on his ability to spin the ball that, yeah, maybe he shows a little bit of improvement. Maybe he finds a change up that works from a little better. Or maybe he tightens up his breaking ball. Then all of a sudden, you have a guy with that fastball plus truth, we can miss. secondary offering or two. And with his command, I mean, that's a heck of a pitcher. Yeah, if he wasn't even really pitching up, that kind of diminishes the effect of the high spin, right? Because the idea behind a high spin fastball is you're located up and you get kind of that artificial rising action, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:06 induces swings and misses. Yeah, absolutely. RJ, if you were a betting man, who would you put money on to be the first player in this draft to make it to the majors? It's already been drafted. Yeah, let's go with the first round. Read that, Mers, I think. You know, the Angels, they're going to need starting pitching. He's going to be able to provide that, or at least in a bullpen role.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Maybe they wouldn't start him this year because, you know, he's going to be coming off a layoff or whatever. But I think he's, I think he's probably the best bet, him and Crochet. And if we're going the entire draft, I think that someone is going to take one of these college relievers, like Burrell Carraway, a left-handed from Dallas Baptist. I think they're going to fast track them to the majors. And there's a few other relievers I've heard this about. Zach McCamley, Nick Garcia. I think Garcia is a Division III guy. Can you imagine going from pitching in Division III to Major League's like six months?
Starting point is 00:23:59 That's absurd. But, you know, those are guys who this has been talked about. And I think it's going to be one of these college pitchers who comes up and debuts in a relief role or in a spot start role. Who would you bet on to be the most successful? I know, I understand. It's a loaded question. and a lot of these guys are, most of these guys are a couple of years away. And maybe, look, if your answer is Torkelson or if it's Austin Martin,
Starting point is 00:24:21 maybe to someone, you know, outside of, you know, those two guys. Oh, man, you're taking the easy, you're taking the easy out off the board and you're asking me, like, the toughest question to answer. All right, so outside of, let's say outside of a top 10. And we're saying successful in terms of, like, accumulating career wins above replacement, or is this just a fantasy perspective? It's fine. That makes it tougher.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I was hoping you're going to say fantasy. Yeah. If it's easier from fantasy, then you could do it that way. That's a tough one right there. I can give you a couple of names I feel good about. Like, for instance, I think the guy who is, I think the guy whose draft pick will be viewed as like the most value or like the greatest steal or whatever. On the pitching side is probably Mick Gable, the high score with the Philly stuck him or Nick Bittscoe, never a high score with Tampa Bay Area stuck. On the hitting side, my guess is it's probably going to be Garrett Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:25:18 The brewer selected him. You know, he's a speed demon. You know, he's going to stick in center field. And there is power potential on that bat. And we all associate the brewers of unlocking that and Christian Yeller's bat. If they can somehow do the same thing with Mitchell, he has star potential. And to get him that late in the draft in the first round, at least, you know, that could be, I mean, that could look like a heck of a deal provided they can unlock that upside. Yeah, Garrett Mitchell was the guy who fell the most, right?
Starting point is 00:25:43 in terms of where the valuators had him. Top 10 guy and he was, Brewers took him 20th. I mean, that's a good park for him to wind up into Miller Park. No joke. Yeah, I think he's automatically their top prospect. To be fair, that's partially because their farm system is not very good. But yeah, I think he has a chance to be very, very good. And I think he has a chance to potentially be the position player, steal with the first round.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Was there another player taken in the later, stages of the first round or even in the supplemental phase there right after the first round was there was there any player taken there that you feel like has star potential
Starting point is 00:26:27 and you know just because he wasn't taken that early isn't going to get a lot of pipe yeah I can give you a couple names here I think Tyler Soderstrom is one who I heard so many good things about his bat you know I had scouts telling me they wouldn't even mess of trying to have him catch
Starting point is 00:26:43 because he was a catcher in high school. They would just move him to the outfield, let him hit his way to the majors. I don't know if Austin Hendrick technically counts as a later first round guy, but he's got an explosive swing. And I mean, if it all clicks, and I don't think it's all going to click
Starting point is 00:26:59 because it seldom always, you know, everything seldom clicks. But if everything clicks for him, we're talking a monster, home run hitter, probably a star, the superstar level player. Let's see, who else was taking that? And who took Austin Hendrick?
Starting point is 00:27:15 The Reds, right? Okay. I believe they took him just outside of the top 10. So again, he's not really a late first-round pick. Two of my personal favorites, and they're not going to be star players, but Tanner Burns, who was Cleveland's second pick of the night in the supplemental round, I think he was like 34 or something like that. You know, I know he slipped a little bit because of concerns about his shoulder and his size,
Starting point is 00:27:38 but you're talking about a guy who really grades well on track man. he finished first or second innings at Auburn in all three years. And the year he finished second was to Casey Mize. I don't know if you guys or anyone out there has ever heard of Casey Mize, but he was the number one pick that year. So that's a pretty good guy to finish second to. And, you know, it's hard to be successful or as successful as Burns was in the SEC. So I think he's going to move quickly even if he doesn't necessarily have a star ceiling.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Then Nick Lothin, who the Royals took, again, he's not going to be a star, but he can do a little bit of everything. You know, he can run, play shortstop, hit for average. And it's kind of what we talked about with Martin earlier. Like, you know, if a guy can really put the bat on the ball and he has a good feel for the zone, it's at least possible his power plays a little above what you expect on draft days. So maybe on him as well, I don't think he's going to grow into his power like Austin Martin. Well, but maybe there's a little bit more than we're giving him credit for right now.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Maybe the answer's Martin or somebody else we've already covered. but aside from Spencer Torkelson, just speaking in terms of upside, entirely talking upside here. Who do you see who has the most upside? I just mentioned Hendrick. I think he's got a ton of upside. Zach Veen has been all the order upside,
Starting point is 00:28:58 although that's the top center. Yeah, I mean, in fantasy, I mean, you look at Zach Veen and he has this angular, broad-shouldered frame, and you just envisioned him putting on more strength, and then in that ballpark, I mean, 30 plus home runs, you know, he's going to hit for an average. Like, he has the chance to be, like, the next great is he a course Mirage argument, in my opinion, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Because we always talk about those with great. There's Matt Holliday and Tulowitzki, now Aronado. I think he has a chance to be the next guy where it's like, you know, how much of this is ballpark, how much of this is his natural talent. For him, I think it's going to be a lot of natural talent. But if we're going a little further out there, just to name some of our interesting names, Jordan Walker. He's a 6'5 third basements. We put the tithe for the tallest third baseman in the league with Chris Bryant,
Starting point is 00:29:44 and he has power potential. There's some question over whether he's going to be able to stick a third base because of that size. But if he can, you know, that's going to be pretty interesting if the power plays. And then you have to mention Nick Bitsko. You know, I know we're pretending he's a mystery man, but before he reclassified to this year, he was a potential top three, top five pick in next year's draft. crazy metrics, has the delivery you like,
Starting point is 00:30:10 he just kind of checks all the boxes. So I know they don't have a ton of, you know, exposure to him over the last year plus, at least in person exposure, but he has a chance to be a very good pitcher as well. Leave it to the Tampa Bay raise, RJ. What else is new? Just constantly snatching up value.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And if there's any organization to figure it out, I would trust the Tampa Bay raise. RJ, I want to thank you again for joining us to help break down the first round of the MLB draft. Don't forget everybody. Rounds 2 through 5 are tonight again Thursday, June 11th. RJ, I assume you'll be watching closely and providing content on the site. Yeah, you can check out all of our coverage on CBSports.com slash NLB. We will have a lot more coming, including a preview of next year's class, and maybe next year he'll be sitting here talking
Starting point is 00:30:56 about Jack Leiter and Kumar Rocker and which one you should take in Dynasty League. Make sure to follow him on Twitter at R underscore J underscore and and read his work again, CBSports.com slash MLB. We'll take a quick break here. And when we return, we'll take a look at some sleepers for the RBI and wins categories. All right, we're back here, fantasy baseball today. Thanks again to RJ Anderson for joining us and help break down the MLB draft. Scott, you know, we were just talking about this.
Starting point is 00:31:23 That's probably the most MLB draft content we've ever provided on fantasy baseball today. Oh, I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is because the draft happens mid-season and you'll find out, Frank. I mean, certainly you've done in-season fancy baseball podcast before, but I don't know if you've done them the way CBS does them. And it's a slog getting to everything that happened the day before. Oh, I know. Every day.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I know for sure, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, talking about a bunch of prospects who we're not going to see for several years usually isn't high on our to-do list. But, hey, this is the year to do it, for sure. Absolutely. So for all you dynasty players out there, I hope you were paying close attention.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Scott, let's jump in here. We've been doing the category sleepers all week long. We've been talking about it here on the podcast. You've been writing about it over at CBSports.com. And today, we are going to talk about RBI and wins. And last year, there were 22,471 RBI. That was the most since 2007. We know offense was up.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Home runs were up. The juice ball last year. In a Roto League, in a 12-team Roto League, You needed around 1,130 RBI to finish first in that category. That averages out to just over 80 RBI per starting offensive player that you have in your lineup. You have to be careful, though, because catchers are going to bring that down, lead-off hitters are going to bring that down. Some of those speed-only guys, Malick Smith definitely going to bring that down.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Last year, 2019, 22 players with 100 plus RBI. there were 44 with 90 plus. To put that in perspective, the year before, they were only 16 with 100 plus RBI and only 28. So we saw an increase of 16 more players last year with 90 plus RBI. Scott, I know we've talked about this all week long, but you said RBI are very closely tied
Starting point is 00:33:19 and correlated to home runs, which makes sense, which means a lot of the RBI, a lot of the home run category sleepers that you're targeting are also going to provide that category for you. yeah yeah it's like you said about uh like lead off hitters and it actually won't be quite as bad in the n l specifically if if there's universal dh you know there's not going to be that automatic out batting in front of a lead off guy so it um but you know even if you look at al leadoff hitters over the years they're you know the guys batting at the bottom of the order are still low obbp guys so
Starting point is 00:33:58 so you know, you generally don't see a lot of RBI from the lead off spot, even if they're a good power hitter. So it's, I feel like this stat is mostly tied to power and it's mostly tied to lineup spot specifically. You want a guy who's batting behind a lot of high OBP guys. And that's where you're generally going to see a lot of RBI production. But I do think as long as you're targeting power numbers, you're probably going to end up okay here.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It's of all the hitting categories, you know, we talked about this yesterday with runs, and it's the same goes for runs, but especially RBI. It's not one I am really singling out at any point in the draft. Yeah, it's really just, you know, when you start to target power hitters, when you're like, realize, okay, I need to get some home runs,
Starting point is 00:34:53 RBIs are going to, RBI are going to come with those home run hitters. So guys that we've mentioned throughout the week, Chris Davis-Wittaker, I think it's someone who can bounce back in the RBI department. Renato Nunez, I think, is interesting, maybe in a deeper league. Justin Upton projected to bat in the middle, you know, whether it's four or five in that lineup for the Los Angeles Angels,
Starting point is 00:35:15 he should be able to provide some RBI. You know, some late-round guys, Scott, that I think are interesting that maybe normally we wouldn't have thought of. But Robbie Canoe, I understand. he was dreadful last year, but he's projected to bat third for the New York Mets, and that's a pretty good lineup.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So say what you want about Canoe, he might be done. If that's the case, then yeah, he's not going to help you. But for where he's going, that's a pretty good value. Someone that I could actually see contributing RBI this season.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah, yeah. You know, the first guy I think of, you don't have on your list here, and that's Gio Orshella. That's your guy. Got to stay consistent. Yeah, I mean, I brought it up every time.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I brought up the RBI potential every time I've talked about him because I feel like that's an over like you're putting the ball in play as often as he does you're you're getting hits in play as often as he does you know he doesn't necessarily have to be home runs when you're getting hits of any kind and you're batting in a lineup as deep as that I think I think O'Shell is probably going to be a good source of RBI Justin Upton I'm glad you brought him up
Starting point is 00:36:27 because he could be hitting directly behind Trout, Rendon, and Otani. And for that matter, Otani and, you know, providers that split up the hitter version and the pitcher version. The hitter version, on the days he plays anyway, should be a very prolific source of RBI with two 400 OBP guys batting directly in front of him. You mentioned Chris Davis, right? Yeah, Chris Davis. With a K. Yeah, Willie Calhoun. Willi Calhoun?
Starting point is 00:37:02 He should be batting in the heart of the Rangers lineup, maybe even directly behind Shinsu Chu, Luke Voight. How about just any Yankees at this point, right? Scott, I mean, their lineup is so deep. It doesn't really matter where you bat because there's going to be RBI opportunities up and down that entire lineup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I know this is a boring pick, but Mark Kana, I think he's an even a, better source of runs, but it's not like he's going to bat first or second in that lineup. So if the power is there like I expected to be, the RBI should as well. And I mean, J.D. Davis, too. Now I've got the trifect of hitters. I always talk about Kana, J.D. Davis, and G. O'Rshello. They should all be good late round sources of RBI.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, it's a good point. Miguel Anduhar, if we're going to go with another Yankee, I mean, depends how often he plays. But he kind of has a similar hitting profile to Gio Orchello, where there's going to be a lot of hits in play. And those are, when it comes to RBI, those are more valuable than walks. That's one instance where you'd rather have a hit than a walk. Yeah. Just comes down to playing time.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Just comes down to playing time for Andrew Har and we'll see how this, normally we say these situations work themselves out, but the Yankees just have so much depth. It could take potentially a few injuries to see what happens there. Scott, I'm going to throw a few names your way. And for every name, you just tell me whether or not you might be interested in this person providing RBI. D.D. Gregorius. Shortstop? Out of position RBI there?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Well, he does put the ball in play a lot and has pretty good power. I'm not sure where he's projected ahead. I'm trying to pull up the lineup here. Pretty low, but that could always change. I could see him batting in the two-hole or something at some point. I don't know. I don't hate it, but I'm not a big D.D. Gregorius fan to begin with. I think the power is
Starting point is 00:38:57 kind of suspicious. Travis Shaw. I mean, that's a guy with a huge range of outcomes. Right. It bounces back completely, sure. Project it's a bat fifth. I mean, just behind, you know, Vlad and Lorda's Gueriel and Boba Chet. He was twice a 30-Homer guy in Milwaukee, right?
Starting point is 00:39:15 So you would definitely get some RBI batting there if he can hit it all still, which is a fair question at this point. So I'm not making him an RBI target specifically. He's just a total lottery ticket pick. and you're probably getting a lot of big production if it comes through. How about David Peralta? I was just scrolling through Rosser Resource Pages today, and he's projected to back cleanup for the Arizona Diamondbacks,
Starting point is 00:39:44 so could work out. Yeah, I like that pick. Usually hits for good batting average, so that's, you know, you have that lineup spot and you hit and for a good average, you have a good chance of driving in runs. All right, the last one I'll mention, you. I've got to do it. Albert Pooholz. He had 93 RBI last year, Scott. This is probably more of a AL only, maybe a 15 teamer if you're desperate. Well, that's interesting because roster resource
Starting point is 00:40:13 actually projects him to hit ahead of Upton even in that lineup, which means he would be the one batting directly behind Rendon, Trout, and Otani. I feel like, I feel like hitting a spot or two behind Trout and Rendon has got to be the best RBI position. on the baseball. And Pujolz, I mean, for as much as he declines, he's declined. He still puts the ball in play a lot. So I think it's, you know, you'd have to be in a pretty desperate spot for RBI to make that pick. But he should have, provided he's an everyday player still, he should have a lot of RBI, yeah. This Frost's Resource is kind of crazy, though, for the Angels. I understand Poulos is making a lot of money. But are they really going to hit him ahead of Justin Upton?
Starting point is 00:40:59 that seems kind of crazy to me. He hit... He does make a lot of contact. He hit fourth and fifth most often last year. So he was in... He was in the prime spot batting behind Trout and Otani a lot of the year. But that was before Rendon was there
Starting point is 00:41:16 and Upton was hurt for a large majority of the season. Okay, so when Upton was healthy, it looks like Pooho's batted behind him. It looks like it was Upton fourth, Pooholl's fifth. So yeah, you add Rendon there to the third spot, you push everybody back. Yeah, I think I would expect Upton to bat in front of pool holes. But the thing is, if Upton bounces back, he's a good OBP guy too.
Starting point is 00:41:40 He's good for a 350 on-base percentage, I think, basically every year. I think sometimes it's even been higher than that. He walks a fair amount. So, yeah, that wouldn't necessarily bring down Poo-Holes as RBI. I'd bring it down a little, but it would still be good. Scott, anything else to add? 47 OBP for Upton. Yeah, not bad. Anything else to add on RBI, Scott?
Starting point is 00:42:05 Now, let's move on to wins. Yeah, wins. This is a fun category here. Fun, yeah, let's talk about it. You needed about 100 wins in 2019 to win that category in a 12-team Roto League. That averages out to just over 11 wins per pitching slot. Keep in mind, you're going to have 2-3 closers most often in your starting spots for your pitchers in a Roto League.
Starting point is 00:42:31 So that means you're going to need more from your starting pitchers there. 2019, there were 17 starting pitchers with 15 or more wins. There were 41 starting pitchers with 12 or more wins. Some standouts in that category. Eduardo Rodriguez 19 wins. Domingo Hermann 18 wins. Max Fried, 17. Lance Lynn, 16.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Marco Gonzalez and Dakota Hudson, 6. Jake O'Dareese and Mike Fires, 15 wins each. Basically, Scott, the point that I'm getting at is wins to me are the most unpredictable category. I'm not talking about scarcity. I think even more than saves and steals, wins are the most unpredictable in fantasy baseball. Yeah, that's fair, and that's why we've mostly gotten away
Starting point is 00:43:24 from trying to predict them. We rarely talk about a pitcher's win potential. I've actually kind of, I talked about this yesterday. I've actually kind of tried to bring it back because I think where you can most predict it is in terms of how deep a pitcher goes into games and that has become, that's become a hot button issue here the last couple of years. Pitchers, particularly up-and-coming pitchers, have their innings curtailed more and more seeing pitchers get pulled from games earlier and earlier
Starting point is 00:44:00 and where you see it really have an impact is the win potential. The more, you know, the less a pitcher leaves to the bullpen, the more time he gives his offense to give him a lead, you know, the better chance he has of coming away with a win. And I do say this often, the win is the most valuable pitching stat, at least in standard roto and standard points leagues. It's frustrating because of how unpredictable it is, but you definitely want it. All right, Scott, I'm going to ask you to predict the unpredictable.
Starting point is 00:44:36 We're talking sleepers for every category. If you had to choose a few names that come to mind that can potentially win some games and help out in that category, who are they? And what goes into that? Is it just players on good teams, have good run support, guys that go deep into games, who are those players and what are you looking for? four. Yeah, those would be the two biggest factors. The three biggest factors would probably be in this order, how deep he goes into games, how good his supporting lineup is, and how good his
Starting point is 00:45:08 bullpen is. Those would probably be the three biggest factors. I mean, the biggest factor is how good the pitcher himself is. Let's not overlook that. But that, I assume, goes without saying. So, yeah, I would want a guy who I felt confident was going to go six innings most of the time. It doesn't necessarily have to average six innings, though that would help. That's a pretty high standard to meet when you factor in the number of times a pitcher gets pulled, you know, because he's getting knocked around in the third inning or whatever, brings that average down. but most of the time expecting them to go six, preferably more. And that would be the first thing I look at here.
Starting point is 00:45:56 So more established guys, I think it helps. You know, names that jump out immediately to me, Masahiro Tanaka, of course, has that Yankees lineup and bullpen, both very strong. Kinta Maeda actually has been held back in the past from getting wins because of what we think was the Dodgers exploiting the terms of his contract, keeping his innings count low. And we suspect the twins are going to let him pitch deeper. And, of course, they have a great lineup.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And I think an underrated bullpen, too. You know, Mike Fultenevich, if he's the good version. Marcus Stroman, sure, he should throw some innings. Dallas Keiko, I mean, he's become kind of injury prone. But when he's healthy, he goes, seven innings with good consistency. So I think he's somebody you could call a sleeper for wins. How many wins?
Starting point is 00:46:57 Well, I just think he's a bad pitcher. I was going to say Dakota Hudson, but I don't. Yeah, I mean, he was so lucky last year. I don't think I'd ever be desperate enough for wins to take the whip hits and possible bust potential there. Yeah, he won 16 games last year, which is just insane. and he did that with a 7K per 9 and 4.43 walks per 9, which is, I mean, that's a walk rate similar to Robbie Ray,
Starting point is 00:47:23 and you're looking at 7Ks per 9 versus, what, 12 from Robbie Ray, so it's just, it seemed very fluky what he did last year. He had a 335 ERA, a 455 ex-fip, and a 1-4-1 whip. So I'm with you there. He won the 16 games last year, but I am not going back to the well. Yep. Jay Hap I mean he pitches for the Yankees
Starting point is 00:47:46 and was made an adjustment this off season that was earning him some praise this spring he went 20 and 4 I think back in 2016 it's crazy looking back at that I don't remember that at all but he seems like a good one I mean
Starting point is 00:48:01 and not really Joe Musgrove just because the pirates are so bad though I think Scott he'll go deep enough into games yeah he will go deep but it's it's tough to rely on the pirates for run support, the tigers, you know, as much as Chris and I. And to an extent, I know you like Matthew Boyd as well. He'll provide strikeouts, but I mean, you have to be realistic.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Weird things are going to happen. Marco Gonzalez won 16 games last year for the Mariners. Yeah. They were not a good team. But, right, it's, it's, it's tougher. It could happen. It's just not something I'm going to predict, you know? And that's, that's what it all comes down to here. You know, Dakota Hudson may not be the guy who wins a bunch of games for the Cardinals, but Miles Michael is might and I think he's a good whip whip sleeper too someone who doesn't really fit the mold
Starting point is 00:48:50 but I think is a pretty good wind sleeper is Ryan Yarbrough yeah because the guy who follows the opener he doesn't necessarily have to pitch six plus innings himself to get to a point where he's not leaving much to the bullpen and two years ago Yarbrough won 17
Starting point is 00:49:08 games yep doing that and I think last year it was like a dozen or something it wasn't bad. So he's kind of a sleeper for wins. Yeah, I like that. I like that. I like the call you made on Kenta Maeda. I actually like all the twins.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And I'm on record already saying this because they get to face the royals. They get to face the tigers. If they're facing their opposing division in the National League, they get to face the pirates as well. So Oderese doesn't go all that deep into games. There's some worry there with him going third time through the order. But I think with his run support, he can get wins. I think Rich Hill, basically a name that we've mentioned every day this week.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Jose Orkid. All four of the starting pitcher categories he is a sleeper for. Yeah, so you should probably draft Rich Hill. That's the point that we're getting at. Scott, Jose Orkiti, I think is interesting because projected low-wit pitcher should have some good run support, has a very good bullpen behind him. I think Rikidi's a sleeper for wins here. Yeah, I do worry how often he'll go six innings.
Starting point is 00:50:11 That's fair. And the same thing for Oterese. I intentionally didn't mention him. But in both cases, the supporting cast is so good that it, you know, they could still, you know, I don't even know what a good number of wins would be in a 48 game season. One of the stats that jumped out to me when I was looking at where players stood statistically 50 games into last season. Eduardo Rodriguez, who went on to win 19 games, had only four at that point. That is interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:46 But, you know, it's basically, it's a little less than a third of the season of the season. No, it's more like a quarter of the season, 48 games. Yeah, so a big win total would be like six, right? Predicting the unpredictable, Scott. That's what we're here to do. Yeah, so we're talking about, when you're talking about late round win sources, you're talking about somebody who could give you four or five in a 48 game season. assuming that's what it ends up being
Starting point is 00:51:14 and there's still a chance as closer to 80 games but I'm losing hope for that. It sounds weird but 2020 is the face of weird at this point so there you go. Some wins and RBI sleepers. You have anything else to add?
Starting point is 00:51:28 Scott on wins. I could probably find a few other names. We gave a few out there. I would say we gave double digit names. That's a decent amount of sleepers here in the wins category. Yeah, nothing glaring.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I think we're good. I mean, Maybe. Yeah. On the road. I just can't draft Rockies pitchers, Scott. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I mean, Chris thinks the Rockies are going to be just a bad team. I mean, statistically, they weren't a good team last year. Yeah. So we'll see, but I know John Gray has all the upside in the world.
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Starting point is 00:52:34 And make sure to join our Fantasy Baseball Today Facebook page. Tell a friend to tell a friend to listen to Fantasy Baseball today. All right, Scott. This one comes from Andrew. in Denver, dear Mookie, George, and others. Okay. Mookie, George, and others. Are there players who are in a contract year and might decide to sit out the
Starting point is 00:52:57 shortened season, like a top college football player sitting out the bowl game to avoid injury before the draft or skipping the combine to avoid the risk of a small sample, bad performance, and subsequent drop in value? Some of the names that are in a contract year this year, Scott, Mookie Betts, George Springer. Ah, there they are. Those are the names in the title. Those are the names.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Liam Hendricks, DJ LaMayhew, Jake O'Dorese, we already mentioned. Marcus Semyon, your boy. D.D. Gregorius is on a one-year deal. Marcelo Zuna's on a one-year deal. And then, of course, the always interesting, Trevor Bauer and Robbie Ray. Oh, um, it's a good thought.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I hadn't heard anything about this. I wonder if it's a pitch some agents are making. to their clients. Look, it's possible. We could see some crazy, we could see some players opt out for a number of different reasons, and it could be fairly high profile.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I think under the conditions where MLB would mandate the schedule, a player would lose his pay for, when it get paid for 2020, if he chose to sat out. And so I think that'll be an incentive for a lot of guys to play. I'll just say, Scott,
Starting point is 00:54:22 George Springer and Marcus Semyon, if last year could have been their contract years, I'm sure that they would have loved that. Yeah. So, I mean, I haven't read anything about those two names in particular, but those were two guys that put up career years last year. So I'm sure they wished that was their contract year. So is anyone actually going to sit out?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Probably not for this reason, but again, 2020 is the face of weird, and nothing would surprise me at this point. This next one's from Tim. If you were to trade Christian Yelich or Ronald O'Cunae away in a 10-team Roto League, Scott, what would you expect in return? I have been offered Garrett Cole and Freddie Freeman
Starting point is 00:55:04 for My Christian Yelich and Shane Bieber. Seems kind of like a wash trade. Yeah, I mean, first and second round pick for another first and second round pick but I think the gap between like I would hesitate when my pick came up and Freeman and Bieber were both still on the board
Starting point is 00:55:26 I would hesitate with that pick more than I would in the first round if Yelich and Kohl were in the board I would just automatically take Yelich so this doesn't look like a trade I would make but it's it's you know one team's first and second rounder for another team's first and second rounder and there's nothing unfair about it
Starting point is 00:55:41 yeah you know what I might try to do here I wouldn't try and just get depth in return because in a 10-team league, you just need the best players in your lineup at all times. But if you can turn Yelich and let's say your... Maybe Bieber was your third round pick. Let's say your fourth round starting pitcher or your fifth round starting pitcher.
Starting point is 00:56:01 If you can turn those two into Garrett Cole and Freddie Freeman, that would be something I'd more so be looking towards doing. But I just don't know how realistic it is, Scott. Yeah, it would probably be... I might want to be on the two side of a two-for-one, honestly, to give up Yelich. Like those kinds of super elite players in a 10-team league, those are everything. It's just how many elite players can you cram into one lineup? Right.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And so, like, the cost, once the draft is over to pry one of those guys away, should be astronomical, I feel like. So, Cole and maybe, like, if you could get two, great pitchers, I'd be tempted to do it. Like if you could get like a colon G. Alito or something. But that's, you know, you'll probably get turned down, but that's, that's kind of the point is you need to ask for a lot. Yeah, shoot high. You're giving up Christian Yelich.
Starting point is 00:56:59 He's one of the top three players being drafted in every draft. Even if you can give him up for Garrett Cole and a third or fourth round outfielder. If you can do, like Scott, would you do give up your Yelich to get Garrett Cole and Austin Meadows? Is that a trade you would make? it's a trade I consider. I think the reason I picked a pitcher is because I feel like no matter how shallow the league is,
Starting point is 00:57:26 there's going to be not enough of those guys to go around when, you know, I'm not saying there are a lot of outfielders that are going to perform like Austin Meadows, but there are a lot of outfielders out there who could potentially perform like a high-end outfielder, including ones that likely went undrafted. So, you know, generally speaking, you want to be on the other side of the two-for-one deal,
Starting point is 00:57:48 which is why you really need to make sure you're getting impact if you're on the side getting the two. This next one's from Damon. I'm in a long-term auction dynasty, mixed Keeper League. We had planned our auction in late March, and our Constitution says that the Keeper Declaration date is two weeks prior to the draft date, which I think is fair in a lot of Keeper League's. So in mid-March, we declared which players from our 24-man off-season roster would be, we would keep and which we would throw back into the auction.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Shortly after, we canceled the auction. Now, the question is, assuming a new auction date in June or July is announced, should we move to a new keeper declaration date two weeks prior to the new auction date, or should you have to keep the keepers that you already declared for the previous? date, if that makes sense, Scott. But I feel like a lot of people are having this issue now where they've already submitted their keepers. I have a keeper league like this, actually, where we submit our keepers a week before. And no one's really talked about it since then. I haven't talked to the commissioner. I just assume that whenever we announce our draft date, we will have a new weekly
Starting point is 00:59:00 deadline beforehand to submit our keepers. And I think that's the fairest way to do it. Yeah, I don't really see the argument for not resubmitting keepers. It's a not like people have made new moves based on that knowledge of what everybody kept because the auction never happened. So it would just you know, I can't think of a player who's lost a ton of value like suffered
Starting point is 00:59:25 a major injury and I may just be overlooking somebody. But that would be ridiculous to make somebody hold to that keeper if that happened. And so with that in mind, I don't see why you want to just let everybody resubmit their keepers.
Starting point is 00:59:40 It might be a bit of a head for the commissioner if rosters have already been purged and you'll have to look up last year's rosters, that might be a little bit of a challenge, but not enough to keep you from doing it. So yeah, I would have a new keeper date. Yeah, I think if anything, Scott, it's probably gone the other way that there's been so many more players that have gained value since then. So, you know, maybe initially you didn't want to keep a Clevenger cause he was hurt, or you didn't want to keep a Blake Snell because, you know, his season outlook was grim at the time or Willie Calhoun or someone like that, right?
Starting point is 01:00:12 because so many different values have changed. So I think that's probably the way that it's been affected the most. But I do think whenever people set up their new Keeper League drafts, you should change your Keeper Declaration date to either a week or two weeks prior, whatever your league normally does. Change it. Well, you know, let's show a little bit of fairness here, Scott. The integrity of the game.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I like being a fair commissioner. It's an underrated quality in a commissioner. Heaven forbid you behave like someone, people would want to play with. Scott is a fair man. He's a fair commissioner and that'll do it. I appreciated the show today. Some MLB draft talk, some RBI, some RBI, some wins. We'll be back again tomorrow to round out our week of roto category sleepers. We appreciate you all for listening for Scott. I am Frank. We'll be back again tomorrow. Bye-bye.

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