Fantasy Baseball Today - Mock Draft MEGA STREAM - Live NFBC Roto (3/16 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

Check out the NFBC Roto 12-Team Mock Draft as part of the Fantasy Baseball Today Mock Draft Megastream Marathon! 🏀 Join our Fantasy Baseball Today Bracket Game: https://shorturl.at/zezZC Fantasy Baseball Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday Download and Follow Fantasy Baseball Today on Spotify: https://sptfy.com/QiKv Get awesome Fantasy Baseball Today merch here: http://bit.ly/3y8dUqi Follow FBT on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fbtpod?_t=8WyMkPdKOJ1&_r=1 Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CPTowers @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the fantasy baseball today podcast from CBS Sports. Got a fantasy question, email fantasy baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your lead. Now here's Frank Scott and Chris. We are getting ready for our live NFBC Rotowire Online Championship. This is a 12-team roto draft with in-season fab, in-season moves. bang. It's not a draft and hold or anything like that. 12-team Rital League. I know we call this the mock draft mega stream. This is not a mock draft.

This is a real draft with big money on the line, $350 entry. Believe NFBC Hall of Famer John Posma is in this draft as well. So we'll- Playing for second. It's more like the beat John Posma draft and we're just trying our best to compete with him here in that one. And we're sharing a team. I mean, that's the craziest part. Three people sharing one team and we have all wildly different views this season. So it'll be fun.

Yeah, it's going to be fun. I've got a spreadsheet up of our consensus rankings. And so I want to see how much we actually believe in our ability to agree. Because we have the number five pick. And we all have Ellie de la Cruz as the number six player. And we've been talking about it. Who do we have fifth? Kyle Tucker.

I like Tucker. Same dollar value. I like Tucker too. One, do you think Ellie makes it? No. To number five. No. I think he will be one of the top four picks.

Another aspect of this upcoming draft that we're about to do, yes, it is a singular draft. We're also competing for an overall prize, a $350,000 grand prize, I believe. There are lots of teams involved in the overall. overall here. It's a collection of 12 team leagues. You win your league, you do get prize money, but you can also win an overall prize. So you are shooting for a little bit more upside here as well throughout the draft. It's a 12 team league. So the waiver wire will be better than your typical 15 team NFBC league. So I do think that we'll see people shooting for a little bit more

upside throughout the course of this draft. I don't think L.A. Daler Cruz will be there for us F5. Probably not. But hey, if that means Jose Ramirez falls, it's not a bad thing either. Let's reset a little bit here. You are watching the fantasy baseball today mock draft mega stream. The first ever. We are up to the fourth draft of the day. And you know what, Chris? Maybe you feel differently because you just got done hosting a draft by yourself.

Not by yourself, but with Sky. I think it's going pretty well. I think everything is actually going pretty swimmingly. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. We've got like four hours left. So we'll see. I haven't, I had a P.B. and J earlier and a,

and a zebra cake. You remember zebra cakes? They are so good. So good. But that's not a lot of food for an adult to eat. I also, I finished my thing of gummy worms earlier. So this is a mess for me personally. But I think it's going well overall.

If you need to hop out at any point, just I'll eat when I'm dead. Okay. No worries there. We are waiting for Scott to join the draft. Can we disagree, Chris? we're not going to let him draft Brandon Nimmo. That's just not going to happen, right? I mean, look, if he's there at like 180 or something.

Nah, no, no, no, no. The question here is, is anyone that we're drafting with watching? Scott's here, Scott's here. Oh, we're definitely going to draft Brandon Nimmo. What's going on, Scott? How are you doing, man? How is your time off? My time off, well, I was mostly working.

You think this is a holiday or something? I did change shirts, though. I did. Did you shower as well between drafts like Chris? Get a new mug. No. Do you shower your during your workday? Only,

only Chris Towers does that. You know, it was just that it's winter, technically, but it was hot in my apartment when I was drafting earlier. I was starting to get a little sweaty. So I had to, had to wash off, you know?

We're finally getting some nice weather here in the northeast and, oh, got into it. We've, we've entered, the talk about the weather portion of the live stream, huh? Yes, we certainly have. Thanks, everyone for checking in, watching live, hit that like button, subscribe to the channel.

If you haven't already, we have a new chain. 31K by opening day. 31K by opening day. We have surpassed 30,000 YouTube subscribers. You'll love to see it. Thank you all for helping us get there. We were trying to do it by the end of draft season. Boom, we are there right smack in the middle of draft season.

and couldn't do it without you, the listeners and the viewers here on YouTube. So we do, of course, appreciate doing that. We got about two and a half minutes before this draft starts. If you have any questions in the chat, I guess we could take some of those while we try to fill some time. I don't think there's any crazy news or anything that I saw throughout the course of the day. I have not seen anything.

Tried to check in on some box scores and things between the drafts here while I was again scarfing down some dint in. Yeah, I apologize to anyone for the FBT newsletter because tomorrow's is not going to be Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, the biggest one that you've ever seen. Don't. It is. It's going to have- It's going to be important.

It's going to be huge. It's going to be exactly what you're looking for in your inbox. Links to everything that we've written that you need to read this spring. So, but if you were hoping for a patented Chris Towers writes 4,000. words about spring stuff sorry i don't have the time for it chris i do think it's totally defensible that we are uh doing a 10 hour stream of drafts all day that you don't put out one of your four thousand i still feel guilty about it you know uh tyler stevenson is getting an mri on his yeah that's that's the one so four thousand words is more like a newspaper than a newsletter

to be fair it's about 80 column inches i think yeah the cubs and lanslansans have entered negotiations on a year deal. Okay. Cody Bradford will start the season on the IL. That's good to know. Christian Walker hit in the batting cages. That's a nice update. It's a good place to hit.

I think you're going to say he was hit. One thing we haven't mentioned today, or maybe it came up throughout one of the drafts, but Jeff McNeil has a strained right oblique. That's a bummer for me. We'll be out to three to four weeks. Jeff McNeil. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that means Brett Beatty. He's the leading candidate to start at second base. Remember him? He's back in second base form. He is back. All right, I lied. I'm sorry. I said we were going to take some comments,

but I was catching up on the news, and now we're 30 seconds out. So here we go. We didn't plan this. We didn't talk this through at all. You guys told me we refused to draft Brandon Nimmo, even if he's there, pick 250. That's the only player that's off the board, yeah.

Everything else is. Look, I've got our... He was in the lineup today, wasn't he? I don't know. I thought I saw that. Sure. I'll just let you guys know. I'll make the draft picks just so there's no confusion over who's making the draft picks here.

Oh, we'll see about that. Oh, gosh, this is going to be a disaster. Welcome in for the fun, a live 12 team Rotowire online auction championship, not an auction, online championship here on the NFBC. We've got the draft board up and running as well. No names involved. So you don't know who's drafting who. I know that is a big.

Oh, we're getting them. Oh, we did talk about Ellie in round one. There you go. He made it to us at five. He didn't get hurt today, right? Or anything like that? I didn't see anything now. You guys are good with it, right?

Let's do it. It's not our consensus. Our consensus would be Kyle Tucker, but I don't think any of us have actually drafted Ellie this spring. So let's do it. Let's do it all at once. Our one share of Ellie de la Cruz in case he goes 4080 this year. in our most important league.

Oh, Gunner. Gunner Henderson's sixth overall. Okay, no concerns there. I'm not willing to call this our most important league, but fair enough. I mean, it is the beat fantasy baseball today league, Scott. That's true. It is one of our important leagues.

Corby and Carroll goes off the board seventh overall. The first seven picks, Shohei Otani, Bobby Wood Jr., Aaron Judge, Jose Ramirez, Ellie Dela Cruz, Gunner Henderson, and Corbyn Carroll. I said this before the draft started, but in case you're just tuning in now,

this is a 12-team league. We're playing to win this league. We're also competing for an overall championship, which there are- Ali De La Cruz. He's going to bring us home. I hope you're right about that. Yeah, we shall see.

The number eight pick was Juan Soto. I like that we've talked down Ellie De La Cruz's top five status all off season, and now I'm here turning cartwheels over it. that's well it was just because we didn't expect it to happen i think i i think i i'm i guaranteed that he would not be there for us before the draft and what do i know nothing apparently so fernando tautis junior the ninth overall pick of this draft this is going to be a longer one by the way this is a 30 round draft so we're going to be yeah like two two and a half hours so and uh

Our number five consensus player still on the board as the 11th pick goes off. And there he is. Kyle Tucker. It was made with an incredible speed that pick. That that feels like the appropriate response. Yes. If you're picking 11th and Kyle Tucker is there, you should not have to think too hard about that pick. Ooh, we got a pocket aces draft.

Pocket Aces at the turn. Team 12 selects Paul Skeens and Terrick Scoobel together. will be interesting to come back to that team and see how the offense comes together. Just now... Go ahead, Scott. This is probably the first time I've done a 12-teamer on the NFBC site because they always tend to be 15 teamers.

It's going to be a little weird, right? I'm not sure I want Ellie anymore. Why do you say that? I'm just kidding. What does that matter? Well, because stolen bases are more plentiful in 12 teams than 15. Yeah, but I think

there's more opportunity to take risks in a 12 team league, Scott. We're in a 15 team or maybe you do want to kind of play it a little bit safer with your picks. I think in a 12 or we can maybe take a few more chances here. And yes, for the people watching on the stream, we are team five. Yes, we are team five. It's not highlighted because we're on the, we're not, it's not showing everyone's names, but that's, we're there.

Why isn't it showing everyone's names? You're not supposed to show names. Yeah, Scott, that's bad form. It's bad form. You don't show the board. Yeah. A couple other picks here in round two after we got pocket aces, Francisco Lindor, Julio Rodriguez,

Vladimir Guerrero, Jackson Turyo, Garrett Crochet, and Yordon Alvarez, guys, we are up. So let's talk it through. Boy, Yordon would have been awesome. I think Bryce Harper makes a lot of sense. Yeah, so our consensus top player is Trey Turner. But we have sure to go. Yeah.

That's kind of overkill. So it's Bryce Harper, Jaron Duran, or Zach Wheeler, if we wanted to go with a pitcher. I'm kind of thinking Duran personally. It's, yeah. Guys, think about how we always, if we wait on first base and we just. That's fair.

But think about outfield. Fair. I'm leaning Duran. Let's do it. Just don't worry about stolen bases ever again. Well, I guess if you guys both vote, I got to take it, right? I think that's how it works.

That's democracy, baby. All right. Not the pick I would have made, but... This is democracy manifest. Oh, gosh. I haven't drafted Jared Duran anywhere this year. Just don't like buying at the peak coming off of a career year. I just got a weird feeling.

But it is an awesome lineup. He's leading off again. He gives you some speed. You know what? When I was last on for the Yahoo head-to-head categories draft, you know what my first two picks were? It's the same, too. It was Ellie De La Cruz and Jaron Duran, yeah.

They're going to think I'm obsessed with them. I would have taken Bryce Harper personally. Come on, guys. Bryce Harbor, man. One of my guys, we had the powder blue Phillies jerseys. We could have won them together. Well, we could have. Let's let's let things play out.

So part of my thought is I want to see where the next, if the next pick goes, because it's possible that there's still some pretty good first basement available when we make our next pick. Don't want to say any names. That is entirely possible. After Duran, it was Zach Wheeler, Jackson Merrill, Bryce Harper, and Jazz Chishol. That's pretty much where Jazz goes now, huh? The team one gets a lot of speed here. Otani, Jazz, and Trey Turner to start. That's a pretty awesome start. That's pretty good. Good value on Trey Turner. Worth pointing out, Bobby Witt, I don't think we have an official update on him yet outside of just that deaf passing tweet where not expected to miss any extended time.

He still goes second overall in this draft, and he was paired with Bryce Harper there in round two. Yeah, I'm a little surprised. He goes second ahead of judge. I figured people might be a little cautious about that, but I think it's fine. The Royals tweet specifically said he'll be re-evaluated in the morning. So the fact we haven't gotten anything new,

I take that as good news. He might be just gone, though. What if they didn't, reveal what has been re-evaluated yet because it's bad. What if they just, what if they lost Bobby Witt? I think, I think by now we'd know that,

but who knows? I mean, physically lost him. They just don't know where he is. He's hanging out with Vinnie Pasquantino somewhere. They seem like boys. A couple other picks here, Cotell Marte,

Freddie Freeman, so if that's who you guys were hoping. That was the name I was obliquely referring to, yes. Freddy Freeman with Ellie, that makes a little bit of sense. get that batting average back up a little bit here. We are one pickaway. I have two players that I would be totally fine with.

I'm queuing up some suggestions here. I like the top one. Yeah, I like, all right, so we're up. It was Matt Olson. I like Austin Riley and William Contreras here. I'm fine with you. Yeah, I was thinking Austin Riley or Wellington Pontcheris. Austin Riley is our consensus top player,

the top three in our consensus ranks. Technically, it's Ronald Acuna. Austin Riley, Ronald Acunae and William Pincaris. I imagine Acuna will probably be moving down a little bit. Yeah, I end up going to moving down. Two catch your league, by the way, reminder. Yeah, that's, I'm going to Riley. I'm leaning Riley.

I like Riley here too. All right, let's go Riley. I've been outvoted. Yeah. I mean, I get it with William Contreras. I think it's totally fine here and he's a little bit past 80p. But as I've talked about all offseason, I like grabbing that third round, third baseman,

and fully expecting the Austin Riley bounce back. Four category stud gives us some power. to pair with Ellie and Jaron Duran. So that is the pick. And yeah, we've got some power. We got a lot of speed so far. We're going to have to be intentional about batting average, though. At some point.

Riley normally helps with batting average. I guess either one, either him or Contreras would have. Two-70-ish, I think, yeah. Contreras is going to be a bigger edge on the rest of the catchers than Riley on the third basement. But yeah, that's true. Yep. The only thing I'll, if Raphael Devers makes it to us at pick 44, then I'll be.

Which is possible the way he's been slipping. Yeah, it is possible. Probably not, but possible. Yeah, what do you? He hit a tank off of Walker Bueller today and, in, Inch Squad game, something like that. So I think he's fine. Yeah. I mean, I don't think he's a third basement anymore, but I think he's fine.

It does sound like he's more open to playing DH this upcoming season. Again, that's Rafael Devers, who just going to be able to. goes off the board. So I think a nice call by us taking Austin Riley. After Riley, it was Logan Gilbert, William Contreras, Corbyn Burns, and Rafael Devers. Yeah, pretty, pretty standard so far. No real big surprises. Nothing crazy. Machado. We're getting those third round base in. I do have Rotow Wire online ADP up over the past week. So if you guys need any reference oh i got it too no not my first rodeo frank i've got the do you have the draft board version up or do you have just the classic adp i like the draft board because it's just easier for me to

visualize and see where where players are going yeah i don't have that one i don't even know what you're talking about maybe it is my first rodeo yeah like for there the first big deviation from our consensus rankings but yeah based on adp it's not really much of a reach that's just he's kind of going in the 35 to 40 range now. The past week of these drafts over at NFBC, Wyatt Langford's ADP is right around here, 37. So the 3-4 turn, and he's been playing in spring games,

he's been hitting so far. He looks like he's past that oblique injury. Everything is good for now. The big breakout for Wyatt Langford is back on this season. And he's, I mean, it's a very small sample size, but early returns have been,

he's like five for seven in his first three games or something i mean white langford no stranger to destroying oh look at this guy the guy picking 12 he put terrick scubel and paul skeeens with his first two picks three and four devon williams and emmanuel class a ziggwin everyone else is zagging it's very unconventional build it's an ethos very interesting again we'll we'll come back to that team and see how the offense comes together should be pretty interesting O'Neill Cruz goes to Team 11 so Tucker, Lindor,

Wyatt Langford, O'Neill Cruz. You got the two hype guys back to back with Langford and Cruz there. What do you think of those three I've queued up? Let me see what you got. Yeah, the hitter was who I was thinking if he's there. It's, it presents a complication, but I like the cryptic,

the cryptic talk here. Yeah. because most of these guys are listening, right? Or watching? We would presume. I would assume at least some of them are. And there are eight picks, I think, six picks between us and our next drafts. What about this guy who I don't like Chris, but I'm adding him.

You don't like Chris? I don't like, comma, Chris, but I'm adding him. I didn't even ask me, but I kind of like it. Yeah, no, I think that's a perfectly fine pick for the team. we have so far. But we want the top guy in the queue. I mean, I think so. Okay.

Like you said, it represents some complications. Yeah. In terms of positioning. Well, that can be overcome. You find a point on it, Chris. Yeah. Come on. What are you doing, Chris?

Come on. Got to keep our gamesmanship going here. I'm sorry. I don't even, I don't even, I don't even, I don't even care about helping people who are watching anymore. It's just, okay, Michael Harris was the other hitter. Yep. That I don't really like.

Okay. And we were. It goes with the very next pick. When we picked Olson, I thought Corey Seeger should be our next pick. And Corey Seeger is available. And we all seem to agree that Corey Seeger should be the pick. Let's just make sure before we over a pitcher, right? You guys are fine with that.

So there's Chris Sale and Cole Reagan still. And they're the only other. ones I would consider. Obviously, it is weird that we spent our first round pick on a short stop, and now we're taking a shortstop in round four, but our categorical needs, see, Seeger just meets them so well. And in a 12 team, it's easier to replace him if he does get hurt. Yeah, I'm totally on board. That's our consensus top player, too. All right. There it goes. Corey Seeger. Interesting build. I'll be,

I'm interested to see how it comes together. You've got Ellie, Jaron, Austin Riley, and Corey Seeger. So covering all the hitting categories, at some point we'll look into a pitcher. That is our. It's only a 12th teamer. That is our number 34 player. And we got him at 44. Can't complain.

You see that slide for Acuna though, too. He went 43rd. Yeah. Yeah, I think he needs to be outside of the top 40. If April's out of the picture, then yeah, I think that's right. And worth pointing out again, NFBC, no IL spots. We have seven bench spots. So if you take Acuna, he's sitting on your bench for the next six weeks,

you almost assuredly can't take another stash candidate. Or at least I wouldn't. I mean, whoever drafted a cunea can choose to do that if they want to. But it just makes it a lot harder to manipulate your bench if you take two injured players, basically. After Seeger, there was Josh Hater, the third closer off the fourth, excuse me, Edwin Diaz went in there as well. And then Cole Riggins. will not be on our team because he was the consensus top pitcher for us left um

Diaz his velocity has been down so far this spring do we have any concerns about that every other closer I is there a closer whose velocity isn't down because I Mason Miller hit 102 Justin Martinez hit 103 okay not you're right Justin Miller we don't know that he's a closer but his velocity isn't down I'd queued up Jose Altovae thinking yeah that felt like the most obvious next one but it just cute up James Wood and he also went at the what do you think about the guy left in the queue as might be a contentious one no I'd actually be down with it yeah yeah it would be my first time drafting him this year we do need a backup plan just in case I'll throw oh yes whoever's

doing that I like those me yep how about these two yeah yeah There's this, if we want to go that route. I don't know how useful this is for anybody. We're talking about our cue. We don't want to reveal the players. Once they go, we will talk about the players. We just, for anyone we're drafting against, we don't want them to take the players for talking.

It becomes a fun guessing game. Think of it that way. It's like a game show. It's pretty good. At the turn, by the way, James Wood and Ozzy Albies, that team won, Otani, Jazz, Trey Turner, James Wood, and Albies. It's a pretty fun team. I mean, that is,

yep. So it's not going to be a pitcher. It's not going to be Chris Silly. It could be a pitcher. It could be a pitcher. I don't think it should be a pitcher. So how do we organize them? How do we rank them?

Do we rank them how they are? We want batting average, right? The way. All else. All right. Whatever. We're talking about utility only players. And the way our consensus is, is Ozuna, Schwerber, Rooker.

and all three of them are there. Ozuna is the best batting average bet, and I still think that's what we need most. Or we could go with Dillon C's. I think those are the two options, either OZuna or C's. I was thinking about C's too. I'm okay waiting on pitcher.

Me too. I could see a pitcher. I could see a pitcher run coming, but it hasn't happened yet. Right. This draft outside of Team 12 has been pretty light on pitching. So I've seen a couple other of these online championships,

and pitching typically goes pretty late. I'm okay with Ozuna. It does now, it does lock us in. Yeah, we are. If there's an awesome shortstop later, we get to. Yeah, that's the problem. I mean, we're no, our bench, but yeah. Oh, that is true.

But I still think Ozone is the, the, I think so, too. Scott. I, I, I, I don't like the idea of not taking a, being able to take another shortstop. Okay. Let's let's take Ozuna. Let's take Ozuna. I'm on board. Ozuna.

Okay. So, we do. get our utility filled up early on here through five rounds. We have Ellie Dela Cruz, Jaron, Duran, Austin Riley, Corey Seeger, and Marcel Ozuna. Next pick was Ryssel Iglesias. He is the leave one, two, three, four, five. Sixth, six cloaks off the board. Yeah, Mason Miller's. Okay. Okay. Maybe we shouldn't have taken Ozuna. Scott, Scott, cool as a cucumber, baby. Maybe that is my auction approach.

All right. I'm, I'm allowed to tilt a little in draft still. A little. Tilted like a, like a pinball machine. Well, it's going to, it's going to be upsetting if,

well, okay, Brent Rooker just went. If Kyle Schwerver makes it back to us. Yeah, that'll be. Kyle Schwerver just went. Oh, you took them out of the queue. No, I took them out of the queue.

We're not taking them now. I know, obviously. I take them out of the queue, yeah. I mean, we could have the best bench, best bench around. in this league where trades aren't allowed.

Oddly enough, I'm in an NFBC slow draft, a draft champions, 15 team draft and hold Roto. And the team, the first pick, also took Marcelo Zuna. They took Otani and Marcelo Zuna. I just, Hmm.

That feels like you just forgot. Maybe. It just, it did not make any sense to me at all. So, I mean, I guess with Rooker, Chris, you've kind of defended this. a little bit more where rookies mean the outfield eligibility but even then it's the opportunity cost that you're passing up on a player at the four or five turn in a 15

teamer i can't remember is it is it five appearances in season for eligibility on nfbc or is it 10 it's 10 yeah oh yeah that's yeah it's not it's not it's via it's potentially viable on another platform but if it's 10 appearances that's can't be sure when rooker's gonna get those let's catch up on on picks after eglacius there was blake's Nell, Yiner Diaz, Brent Rooker, Adley, Ruchman, Lawrence Butler, Brenton Doyle, and into round six, Matt McLean. Lawrence Butler, I was holding out on a little hope maybe he'd make it back to us in round six.

Chris is relieved that he didn't it. That, I mean, Team 11 is just the all-hyped team. Kyle Tucker, Lindor, Langford, O'Neill Cruz, Lawrence Butler. Could really work out. I mean, if you're playing for an overall, there's a lot of five-category potential there. Shoot for the upside, baby. Shoot for the moon. And that L. Schwerber did not make it back to us.

Okay, that's, that's good. The team that took four start, four pitchers, it was Paul Skeen's Tersegoble, Devin Williams, Emmanuel Class A, or yeah, that's who it was, right? Yes, they just got Brenton Doyle and Matt McLean. Brent Doyle, Mac Maclean. So shooting for upside, shooting for five category potential, although batting average likely to be a problem for those two. I would keep an eye on like Luis Arias.

Or a Stephen Klon. Yeah, as a potential target for this. team. Yeah, like maybe you take Kwan and a big power bat. Yeah, together, you know, just to kind of balance that out a little bit. All right, we're in round six. Thanks for, thanks to everyone for watching and hanging out. Over 2,000 people still watching. We're going strong here. It's, uh, we're in almost up to our five of the mock draft mega stream. This is not a mock draft, by the way. This is one that we are playing out this season over on the NFBC and competing for an overall prize in the Roto Wire Online Championship.

The next pick is Adley Ruchman, and there are a few teams that do not have a pitcher at all yet. We are one of them. Team 11 has six hitters, Team 10 has six hitters, including two catchers, Adley Ruchman and Wilson Contreras, and then Team 1 has five hitters so far and no pitcher. So four teams to this point who don't have a pitcher yet. and there goes Dylan C's. That would have been, that would have been fun if you made it back.

It would have been. I was getting my hopes up. Always dangerous. We are two picks away here. What do you guys think of that team that went Adley, Wilson Contreras? This is where Wilson Contreras is starting to go.

I think it's taking it too far. That's what the, well. Well, just we're up. up and I don't. Oh, we're up. Yeah. I don't know that I love. I absolutely think it's the pitcher in the queue. Yeah, hit that button. I don't think there's any, I don't think there's any debate. The other thing I would think about is outfield here. Yeah. But I think we, I think we need a pitcher. Who's the best outfielder left though? I think for me is he's just so unexciting. It's,

he's just so unexciting. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with unexciting. I don't have a great alternative in mind. So let's let's do it. Just to build out that innings base. Yeah. I think. You guys And then if you're going to wait, I think unexciting is fine. Yeah. You guys are fine with that over any of the output. Well, it's here, right? It's just, I feel like there are so many pitchers. Take Valdez.

We got 10 seconds left. Yes. There are so many pitchers who can compete with Valdez in terms of output on the board still. But, well, we've got to, you know, we can take multiple of those, Scott, because we're going to fill out the pitching stuff. That is how pitching works. Yeah. We need it.

We've got to fill nine pitcher spots at some point. All right. what do you guys think of the guy I just added to the queue? Nope. Come on. I'm more open to it than Frank is. Come on. What about what?

No, no, no, no. What about this guy? How about that? Nah. Well, I don't know which one you were referring to. He added the second one. I added the third one. Okay.

No, I, uh, nah. All right. I mean, what? Sounds like there's a, a, a divide here for the next pick. Any of these. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom. Frank's choice was Jordan Westberg and he's gone now.

I try to get Westberg in every draft. Wait, it's about that time because... Cominero! That's what's happening too. So he went 70th. Yeah, top... So we've seen him go in the three drafts I've been in Junior Combinero has gone, 55, 90.

and 70th. It would be nice if I can do math or just read the numbers on the screen because I said a top 60 pick and he was the 70th pick. So that is more accurate. Junior Camerero in the sixth round. The next pick is Michael King. Jordan Westberg gone as well. I think I would vote outfielder or starter. Well, yeah, I think that's now that well, there's also there's also Market Simeon. Is it too early for him? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. so confident nobody's excited about him and i'm just going to say his name he usually goes in round nine of these drafts so we might be able to get him in in round eight i could live without him even yeah i think that's fine i think passing on him is fine yeah i think i think outfielder pitcher here is i just i don't know if any of these outfielders are really i think the pitchers are better relative to the ones remaining than the outfielders are i just think well um I'm going to move the one to the top. Santander seems like he's fallen a long way.

I don't know because he's kind of working against batting efforts that we're trying to build back up. But he's going to give a lot of numbers. But yeah, I don't, there are enough other good ones here that I don't think. I just not that excited about. No, it's not going to be Santander anyway. I just wrote in the stream yard chat who I would like to take. I don't know how you guys feel about it, though. again i just we're on deck go ahead and say it no no what if this person takes him i can't do that

he only has one outfielder scott so here let me make my case for jacob de graham who if we're worried that framber valdez is boring and unexciting the framber jacob de grom combo is not and that is that that's a decent pairing of skills and risk. And it's a value relative to our rankings. That's all I'm going to say. I think I'd rather go Imanaga. Well, why, why de Grom, if we could just get Strider later, you know, Chris? Right, exactly.

I don't want to foreclose that possibility. Because you can't. Because you can't. Now or even glass. Sure. But the way they're talking about limiting DeGrom's innings within individual starts. Okay. We've got to talk about this because we are up.

I would vote for Suzuki. He gives you batting average and we need outfield and he gives you a... I want him, Minaga. Let's do Suzuki. Are you good with it, Chris? Yep. You've been outvoted, Scott. Yeah, first time for everything.

Probably won't be the last time. I think it makes a lot of... Someone very quickly took DeGron after me. Suzuki just felt like a reach, right? Like what? A little bit. We have him 76th, and that was what the 77? seventh pick last last week of 80p he goes in round seven in these guys so the players

really a frank guy there are four guys ahead of him in our rankings do you want me to mention them sure semy and imanaga robber and bichette are ahead of him in our consensus rankings and we can't draft bichette so and we cannot draft bichette so yeah that's uh i mean we technically can but bad idea can we trade him no there's no trading on the nmnc's can we convince the Rangers to move Corey Seeger to third base. Maybe. Possibly. There goes Simeon.

Very unlikely. All right. Now that Ryan Walker's gone, I'm going to stick another guy in the queue. Chris isn't going to like it. It's toughy. It's probably read off some of the picks that are actually happening in this draft. The listening audience, at the turn, at the 6-7 turn, there was Pablo Lopez and Spencer Schwellenbach.

That's a neat combo, yeah. Yeah. Anthony Santander, Yosci. Shinobu Yamamoto into the seventh round. It seems like he fell a little bit. Bryce Miller, we took Sayas Suzuki, then Jacob de Grom, Ryan Walker, Marcus Simeon, and Cal Raleigh.

We probably should have thought more about Raleigh, maybe. That seems like a pretty good discount. It's a nice price, yeah. Yeah. But presents the batting average complications, yeah. Yeah. That's fair.

You know me. I'm a worrier. One of my friends call me whiskers. That's why your friends call you what, Chris? Whiskers. Whiskers? Gotcha. Do they actually call you that?

It's an old S&L bit. I'm sorry. You know I wouldn't understand. It's Will Ferrell's Harry Carey, so it's relevant to our purposes. It's a baseball. The Harry Carey talk show. Okay, Felix Batista just went.

I was wondering if I was going to have to convince you guys. And there goes show to Imenaga, or should have been. last pick. So I guess this is the guy now, right? Just moving into the top of the queue. Ah, no, the guy who just got drafted

would have been the guy I was arguing for. Hunter Brown? No, Luis Robert. Oh, okay. Yeah. Hunter Brown, I'm, yeah. So that was the guy who took the four pitchers at the start and he takes Hunter Brown and round eight.

That's one that point. It goes right after him. I'm getting a little worried about pitching you guys. Scott, a little worry. You're the one that loves to wait. We're going to be just fine. Well, you waited so long. We're going to be just fine.

I want it to knock a last round. Scott, we're supposed to be sanguine. Cool. We're supposed to be blaze. Okay. I, yeah. Bellinger's gone. Oh, he's not gone.

The good glob is still here. Oh, that's a. It's depleting, though. Interesting call out there. So starting round eight, we got Hunter, Brown followed by Bailey Ober followed by Max Fried. There is one. And then Yohan Duran.

So saves are getting scarcer. They are. There is one starting pitcher that I would be very happy to take. He's at the top of our queue. Let's see if we can get there. It is my highest ranked one. It is by far our highest ranked one. Yeah, but we're higher on him than the consensus.

And I've debated moving him down. But he is, he is de Grom-like in his strengths and weaknesses. It's Tyler Glass now. I know what Scott's doing. He doesn't want Tyler Glass to be the pick. I think we're drafting with some very self-assured drafters here. Okay, they put a lot of money on the line. He is trying to, this is, Scott's trying to tank the team.

I am, that's, you know. That's nice pick there. Bellinger I thought that was a good call out Scott I I would have been interested as our we don't have a first basement yet so oh we don't I forgot about that I would have been would have been down for that you're on deck and uh oof that's what I was going to say just went Joe Ryan Joe Ryan and Hunter Green yeah we have to take a picture here it's agrees it's so our top ones are the number 77 players Tyler Glass now number 79 is Logan Webb.

What about Aaron Nola? We got Web higher than Nola. We have Webb a couple of spots higher than Noah. So why don't we take glass now and then hope we could get one of Nola or web back? I think take glass now and hope we and take one of the like Boringer guys next.

Boringer being not word. All right. I kind of like it. Scott? Yeah. We'll take glass now. All right. Ha ha.

Shooting for the moon. Here we go. Tyler Glassnell, our SP2 to go along with Framber Valdez. We also have Seyes Suzuki, Marcello Zuna, Corey Seeger, Austin Riley, Jaron, Duran, and Ellie De LaCruz. And there goes Brian Reynolds. This was a big pitching round, by the way. There have been two, four, six, eight, nine picks, seven of them have been pitchers. Glassdowne, Joe Ryan, Hunter Green, Yohan, Duran, Max Fried, Bailey Ober and Hunter Brown.

Yep. It's, yeah. Someone in the chat thinks you should mute me, Frank. Wow, that's rude. You should mute me for my mutiny. And what chat? The YouTube chat? Yeah. Why would they say that? Because I was given our secrets away. Oh. That's a fair point.

Well, it didn't work, Scott. You tried your best. We still wound up getting out Tyler Glass now. Did Trout go? No. No? Okay. I don't know if we could take Mike Trout and Tyler Glaston on the same team, can we? You're asking for trouble.

It is possible to take them both on the same teams. Legally allowed. Sure. I checked. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Throat clearing. That shouldn't happen on a live stream.

Bad etiquette. Well, Scott, it's been a long day. I think we'll let you slide. here. That's why I'm always muting myself. Try not to clear my throat on the are you going to read out some picks or there's not a lot going on

Scott there's been there's been three picks oh okay so Brian Reynolds Riley Green and Logan Webb just went so there goes web two of the top three players left on our consensus ranks short steps one is

Bichette and we're fairly ridiculous with him picks higher on him than consensus, yes. And one is Willie Adamas, who none of us like. Yes, it's also that. I don't think we're actually ridiculous on Bichette, by the way. I think everyone else is, but we are way ahead of everyone else.

Contract year end, he cut his hair. No-mo flow, Bichette. It's a big talking point this off-season. Yes, those are the reasons why we like Bichette. Nailed it. Christian Walker, and then she, Shane O. Mac. Whoop.

Here comes a money. Here we go. Did you hit the Sandy button? Is that who that was? Yeah, that was. Whoopsie. Not yet. It's not,

it's not time for him yet. We're not getting Spencer Strider, folks. Nah. We couldn't after taking Glass Now. I agree with that. We could have. So Shane McClanahan and Spencer Strider kicking off round nine,

some upside starting pitchers. Like, we don't. Glass Now is healthy right now. So when he, by the time he gets, gets hurt strider would be back and we'd be fine it would have been that is one way to put it yeah yeah i get you're gonna get pitching injuries all year long yeah willie adams just went by the way yeah that's a good value at 99th overall this is the 100th pick of the draft coming up

yeah usually the adp past week at nfbc is 95.2 all right we're up guys we know is still there we dodged a there are you guys good with no law is absolutely consensus the coup we don't have an outfielder yet right we have two outfields oh that's right uh yeah yeah yeah and say that's fine i'm gonna say oh okay i'm just gonna pull the brakes on pitching for the next like over justin steel right yeah i mean i like justin steel yeah no la i think nola is a good balance with glass now and yeah yeah okay so now we got two solid anchors in Nola and Framber who have some ERA risk. Glass Now is not like a sure bet for a super low ERA.

So if there's one thing we're like a little weak on it might be ERA, but I think the talent for those three fits together very well. I just added a name to the bottom of the queue, which I would, I think I'd be down for next pick if you guys have interest in that. I don't know about that, Tim. Yeah, I don't think so, Tim. I'd be open for it, but I think the, he goes a lot later than that, right?

Let's see. No. No? Okay. Are we talking about the same guy? I think you are. On the very bottom of the queue? Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next pick after Aronola, Roki Sasaki. Two very different players right now in terms of just, one being an old veterany, not excited to draft type. And then Roki Sasaki, and that is, with my box score catch up yesterday,

you got a chance to look at that second Roki Sasaki start up close. It was bizarre how we got basically the 20, 23 version of Sasaki in his first start of the spring, and then the 2024 version in the second start. So totally confused. how this is actually going to go. I just think given, I think given the likely workload limitations,

I have to be really, really confident that he's going to be a no doubt about an impact arm to justify a 100-ish pick. And I'm just not. I think there will be times when you watch him pitch and you feel really dumb for passing on him. But I think the overall impact is unlikely. to be worth a top 100 pick.

All right, a couple of picks after Sasaki, Christian Yelich, Jake Berger, and Freddie Peralta. Strauss going kind of slow, right? I'm not, uh, we're 110 picks in roughly, and it's been 38 minutes. Doesn't seem to. We got to get through, what, 360? By the end of the 10th round, that will be the one-third mark.

So, yeah. It'll be about Yeah, it'll be about two and a half hours I think like 2.15, something like that. Yeah. There goes There's Flo Bichette. Right.

Not any mores. Right on ADP there pretty much at 106. So this is a draft where I would have actually been able to enjoy the discount had I been able to enjoy the discount. You think there's any chance the guy at the top of RQ makes it 11 or 8?

I would be thrilled if he did. Yeah. I think, Frank won it. But that's true. There's no denying the value. It's pretty far past ADP. I think either of these two guys at the top of the queue.

Yep. To quote storage wars. Yep. What about this guy? Ah, that was Jeff Hoffman's second pick of the 10th round. That was who Frank was hoping for there. Yeah, we do need to address saves at some point. It's true.

you guys are drafting like me here with the getting by trying to get by by the skin of your teeth at closer I will say in the box scores today David Bednar got destroyed he gave up five runs today I think he only recorded one or two outs I don't know man I he's off my board for the most part

nice value on trout yeah a couple picks here Shay Langalears Jeff Hoffman Justin Steele Mike Trout. Some at the end of round nine. There was also Luis Castillo and Logan O'Hoppy. Catchers are you going to go to, by the way.

Yeah. All right. Well, I think it's about time to have a discussion about the catchers we just added to the queue. I think so, too. It's too early for, as, I'm just going to say it because nobody wants them, okay? As late as J.T. Real Muto has been going lately. you think it's too early to take him here i think we should push the envelope with that okay maybe i'm also the guy who takes like travis darno is my second catcher and everything yeah i'm okay with

that so maybe i'm just i'm just going to put on the record not okay with travis darneau as our second catcher there are there's a dozen homers and another ah didn't make it there is a nether josh later was who we were hoping for he he he's a dozen homers and he's a number fell like 40 spots. So we would have taken him as our first baseman, Josh Naler, ideally. But now we got to think about something else. That we do. Past couple picks, Josh Nailer, Zach Gallen, Mike Trout, and Sunny Gray goes.

We are on the clock. All right. Is it about that time? Maybe. You want to go for Vinnie P here. There is that other first baseman. Either that or a third baseman or a closer. would be the three ways I would look.

You don't like the second guy in the queue, Chris? I mean, you like him, but it is right on ADP now. I like to. Yeah, actually, that's the one, Dylan Cruz. Okay, I'm on board. You guys are okay. I'm totally on board with that one. Risking, not getting, uh, yep, actually, everyone after us has a first base in

already, so I think we could try it. I mean, it might not work. They can draft VinnyP a corner if they want, uh, but you guys want, uh, Dylan Dylan Cruz. Okay. Let's get a third outfielder. Yeah. It gives us some more speed to go along with Ellie and Duran.

We hadn't drafted speed for a while. And actually, I did want to ask you guys. He's got it right after. I did want to ask you guys because I talked about it with Sky, but Ellie's going to be hitting third for the Reds. Do you think there's any hit to his stolen bases there? They announced that today. I think it's certainly possible.

Anytime someone's coming off a 60, seven steals season. I think the expectation should be like less. Yeah. Ant he has, he's probably going to get 40 to 50. Like that is my expectation personally. Andy has a manager,

Terry Francona, whose history doesn't lend itself to a lot of big base dealers. You know, he kind of came up in the money ball era where that was discouraged more. Mm-hmm. But I think, like if they ever give him,

L.E. de la Cruz, the red light, they're doing it wrong, you know? Yeah, I kind of view it as he should just, he should be allowed to run as much as he wants to. And it should help the counting stats, I think, batting third, right? At least the RBI. Yeah. Let's catch you up on picks here after Dylan Cruz. The one we all reacted to was Vinnie Pasquantino going with the very next pick.

I said, oh, every team has a first baseman. Maybe we could get him. Some teams want a corner infielder. That's right. Believe it or not. After Vinny P. Some teams choose a middle infielder in round four. You never heard of dummies doing that.

Crazy. Pete Crowe Armstrong was the next pick, Will Smith. And at the turn here, Mark Viantos and Ian Hatt. We are into round 11. And Alex Bregman just- I was going to start pounding the table for Alex Bregman. Yeah, that's a good one. And saves are drying up a little bit here.

I mean, if the top of our queue is still there, we got to take them. Right? I would suggest the second guy in the queue. What if I changed the player who's at the top of the queue? No, no. I think we have to take the one at the top of the queue, given the state of that position.

I do like those two means in particular, so. There is. Our decision might be made for us right now. I know I'm on a limb. It's Tristan Kossis. Okay, we didn't get Vinny P. on one other first baseman, but I know you guys don't like him.

I would be okay waiting at first base, but plus we need a corner infielder still. Yeah. I think we got to go Kossis. I think this is a gift after we missed out on Pasquantino. I, what do you think, Chris? I mean, Frank,

what do you think? I think the two names we have at the top are the ones that I like, I hear you on Kossis, like him as a breakout this season. I think I lean that way to. Let's go with Casas. That's fine. Yeah.

All right. We got Tristan Kossis. Welcome to the squad. Batting cleanup for the Red Sox. But stay healthy, please. Let's get a full season out of Tristan Kosses. Let's go. There's no doubt. We have a lot of... We've got a lot of upside here between Kosses and Cruz and Ellie and Jared.

It was too early for the guys you were, the other guy you guys wanted. Just looking at ADP over the last week. Red Sox stack, by the way. We've got Duran and Kossus. That's pretty fun. I would be happy if either of the two guys at the top of our queue are there the next time around. Agreed. Yeah.

Let's update the state of the team. We've got Ellie Dela Cruz, Jaron Duran, Austin Riley. These names are very small. I should look at, all right. Tristan Kossis, Ellie Dela Cruz,

Austin Riley, Corey Seeger as our middle infielder. Marcelo's in as our utility. We are boxed in at shortstop. We've got Jaron to Rand, Sea Suzuki, and Dylan Cruz in the outfield, and our pitching staff so far, Framber Valdez, Tyler Glass now, and Aaron Nola. And look at that.

Robbie Ray, getting pushed up draft boards. It's not just fresh. I got my tight pants. Robbie Ray, by the way, eight more strikeouts here in his latest spring training game on Thursday. Yeah, again, immaculate inning in the in the first against. Really an immaculate inning? Yeah, I said that earlier. Well, that immaculate inning in that eight strikeout effort for Robbie Ray was worth 21 points, 21 spots and ADP just compared to the last week.

Four and a third inning's three hits, two runs, zero walks, eight strikeouts. The zero walks, obviously, you love to see it from Robbie Ray, who I believe, it looks like in a small sample size, the control has been really good this spring. 17 strikeouts to zero walks for Robbie Ray this spring, which is there's no no stat cast on that one, so we don't get to see how much he used the change-up, but yeah, he struck out Marcus Simeon, Wyatt Langford, and Jake Berger on nine pitches earlier today, apparently.

Very nice. A couple other picks after Robbie Ray, Ezekiel Tovar, Jared Jones, Matt Chapman, and Royce Lewis. Who just added that name to the queue? it was it was me it was a very half-hearted addition to the queue I don't love it we've reached me just guttural sounds part of the life

so I didn't want to bring Royce Lewis up because I know you guys don't like him nearly as much as I do but Royce Lewis was the top player for our census for a long time. George Kirby, interestingly, goes at the, with the first pick of round 12s, and that was 133rd overall. That is that person's sixth starting, that six pitcher through 12 rounds. Yeah.

That was a team that started with four pitchers in a row, two starters, two relievers, then Brenton Doyle, Matt McLean, Luis Robert, Hunter Brown, Logan O'Hoppy, Shea, Langelliers, Xavier Edwards. So what we said earlier about trying to add a big batting average. That, they might have gotten that with Xavier Edwards, so. Might have, but it's, and it's real iffy. After Kirby, Luis Garcia, Jr., we are going to have a, a lesser second baseman, but you can't have everything, obviously.

And I've said it many times. I think the depth that second base is actually fine if you're going to wait. There are plenty of, not at all sure things, but really interesting talents in the 10 to 24-ish range at the second base ranking. So that's a position I actually do not mind waiting on. And that's true in Roto. If we were doing a head-to-head, I think in either format, head-to-head where there's no middle-infield spot. Yeah.

I think you'd want to be more aggressive in going after a second baseman. Yeah. But yeah, it's kind of the Swiss Army knife position for Roto. Yeah. In Roto, you've got tons of stolen. basis especially in the later rounds but there's some really good sources of batting average as well there's some sneaky power second base is a position in rhodo i actually really don't mind waiting on and just seeing what my team needs in like the 15th or later round range and taking whatever's there

all right catching people up on picks here after louise garcia sandy sandy Tell me about it. Stair. Sandy Alcantara, then Jack Flaherty and Stephen Kwan. We are two picks away. Pretty cool that the spring breakout games are going on right now. Those are Prospect Against Prospect Games.

And Christian Campbell and Marcel O'Meyer apparently went back to back in that game. That is fun. Good for Christian Campbell. Good for him. It's been struggling a little bit. Yeah. All right.

So our picks coming up. I think there's a clearer value than the other. Yep. Do we like that guy more than the other guy? We do have... I kind of inclined to push it more with the... With the saves. All right.

I don't know. Maybe you guys disagree. That's just because you want us to take Brandon Nemo. No, no, no, no. No, Nemo's not. you guys were wanting to take the guy at the top of our queue like three rounds ago right two or three rounds ago yeah that sounds right pretty interesting we are on the clock let me do a quick survey of what the teams after us have uh only one catcher between them yep that i am i i say rail muto let's do it yeah baby hmm i say we bet on the rail muto bounce back You're already outnumbered, Frank. It's a democracy.

This is democracy manifest. What you guys say goes. That's, that's, yeah, that's right. J.T. Rio Muto took advantage of the discount for once. And even by just the standards of the last week here, Rio Muto's 129 on average and we got him at 140. Yep. Yep.

Can't complain about that. Right before JTR, we saw Randy Rosarina, Zander. or Bogarts, Stephen Kwan, all go. Oh, it's the raise prospects. So all of the pitching prospects on my Scott White Dynasty team. Yeah, that'll be a fun of a score for you to check out later on. I have four or five raised prospects among my 12 prospects in that league. After JTR, Anthony Volpe and Bryce Terang.

This is the range of the draft where you are happy that you got your steals early. Yes, some speedy. There's Trevor McGill. Here you go. Yeah. That was who we were debating between. The teams after us, like there were two teens that didn't have a closer yet, and so I was worried about it.

Yeah. So, oh gosh. I've got it just an awful feeling. Just an awful. Uh-huh. Well, if you'd rather do this. I like that also oh gosh

closer's or go and Jordan Romano's gone too Kodi sang it as well at the turn yeah this this was always faded fated not faded it was if it was a starter

I would push for this person who I just moved to the top of queue no I'm okay I shot this I don't know. I mean, obviously, I can be overruled. Chris, any input on your part?

I hope people aren't too frustrated hearing our coded language. We've kind of just, are you reading off picks still, Frank? There's no picks happening, Scott. When they happen, I read that. Well, Trevor McGill, Codda, I sang, and Jordan Romano just went. I read all those off. And then Pete Fairbanks goes. The caliber of relievers being taken now.

Jason Dominguez as well. Okay, yeah, I was going to say I was almost thinking we're going to be backed into that. We just got to do it, guys. Like all the alternatives are going ahead of them at this point. Well, let's, yeah, we got to take Robert Soros. Yeah, Christopher Sanchez was just when, so it's a new point. I think it's got to be Robert Suarez. I don't love that being our only save source so far, but.

He is. Bear Banks has already gone. Romano's already gone. He's our consensus 125th player. Our next highest is 134. Everything. Both the Padres GM and the Padres manager have said there's nothing to see here at closer. You know, Frank, we'll give you the choice.

It's either Suarez or Alexis Diaz. I'm not giving that choice. Thank you for the choice. I'm not given that choice. Swares. It's Niggers. You've been outvoted. It's Suarez.

Can I choose none of the above? No, you've been outvoted. This is Democracy Manifest. I feel like that's happened a little bit too much to me so far today. Well, maybe it should be a better fantasy player. I don't know. The assumption there, Scott, is that you are a better fantasy player. Oh.

Oh. Yeah? I don't know. Well, based on our, based on our auction teams the other day, you probably are because that one. Well. I can't get over it. You've won Tout Wars more times than I've won Tau Wars. It's a really hard thing to draft and host a podcast as someone who's done it one time.

I love the guy at the top of our queue now. The next pick right after Robert Suarez, which I just cannot believe is on our team, but that's who we got was Kenley Jansen, who is a closer. He's an old closer, but he's a closer. Hey, E. Johanio Suarez, the pick after that. So. So. Is it too early for that guy?

No, you're right. That's our clear top player left. Yeah, we should probably do that instead. I think I would like to get back into pitching. Me too, but. If we can. We might, look, we might be able to go pitcher and then that guy with the way. I think it's more likely we can go that guy and then pitcher.

Well, yeah, there will be lots of pitchers. There's only one of that guy. Oh, Erseg. I forgot about him. Yeah, he usually goes a little later. Swares. I know. Swar as is the right pick.

I think Suarez is the right pick. I've always been the Swaraz Apologist. Can we please take Jason Adam with one of our last picks? Sure. Pretty please. That's probably doable. Brandon Lau, by the way, just went.

153rd. That feels higher than usual. Yeah, that's a little higher than usual. It has ADP over the past week is round 16. We are in round 13. Could work out. Swamp Runner Field. Big power to the pull side there.

We still don't have a second baseman. FWIW. That is true. But there are some interesting ones. I'm not sweating it. too much. Kevin Gosman. Next pick up.

It's kind of been a mixed spring. I heard you talking about him earlier, Chris, during the draft that you were hosting, Kevin Gosman, Velocity up this spring. But the splitter movement has been a little bit weird for Kevin Gosman. Yeah, I can't tell how I feel about him. I want someone smart to tell me how I feel about him instead.

Paul Gulchmidt just went who hit another home run in spring training today Not that we want to put too much stock obviously But he's he's been good so far Hopefully carries over into the season after a strong second half Looking for a a full season bounce back from Paul Gulchmidt Yeah and I think he can be a high 700s OPS bat And in that lineup that's probably going to mean

90 RBI and 80 runs, 10 stolen bases. I think he's okay. It's unexciting, but I think it's okay. Saw a commenter said, this is too much fun to watch. That is, that is reassuring as we, as we obliquely refer to players

between each other. Yeah, I mean, eventually you know they are, but yeah, maybe it's, like you said earlier, it's got the guessing game kind of makes it fun. Or at least that's what I'm talking. We're kind of given like these coded clues.

Frank likes them, but I don't. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Don't like that last pick. Bryson Stott and Alec Baum. Robert Suarez, the pick on our team. Oh, right, right, right.

At the turn, it was Bryson Stott, Alec Boehm. Yankees lead off hitter Austin Wells off the board. There you go. We get a little Yankee, back-to-back Yankee picks, Goldschmidt, and Austin Wells. So the same team there. I'd rather have real muto. Yeah.

I think so. Oh, we are. Ah, it's 8 o'clock. Our guy's still there. I don't know. This might, this might happen. I don't even know who our guy is anymore.

Oh, you know who our guy is. Come on. Oh, thank gosh. We don't have to. Brandon Nemo goes. Oh, they suck. The EWalk. That guy definitely wants, listens to the podcast.

All right, what about the guy at the top of our queue now? I think it's probably one of those three. Let's do it. Let's do it. I know Chris is the harder sell. I think I would, I just, I think I would take the guy at the top. No, no, he's going to wreck our ERA. So we don't have like a great ERA based.

Right. Right. I think we need to shoot for the stars here. So that's, yeah, that's a fair point. Parade is going off the board is crushing. I mean, he would have been a corner infielder, so. Yeah, there are a lot. There are other. Josh Lowe with the next pick, by the way.

Yeah, Frank and I like him. We do have three outfielder's already and plenty of steals, so I'm not. We just, we only have four pitchers, so I feel like we're, build that up a little bit here. How relieved are you that we're not going to have the Brandon Nimmo fight? I don't think it was ever going to be a fight because, based on democracy, I don't think you would have ever gotten him, Scott. All right.

Are we doing it? I want them on a team that counts. We're on the clock. I think we can get them with the next pick. I don't think so. I think we can take two pitchers in a row. I mean, it's possible, but I don't want to risk it. I think this is a sneaky side young contender.

My pick would be Carl Sward on. Chris, what do you say? You're all right, Chris. I'll go with Scott. I'll go with Gavin Williams. Yeah. All right. We got a convert.

Come on down. Spring training riser. Gavin Williams has our big riser there, 160th pick or something. Oh, my gosh. Mm. All right. I like it. Sneaky Sayon contender.

I think we talked about this yesterday or one of the previous podcast, but I do have my spreadsheet. sheet and I'm trying to keep track of every pick and I'm one pick off and I can't figure out who I missed and it's driving me crazy. I'm proud of you for being only one pick off. I figured it out. It was Brandon Lau. I never marked off Brandon Lau. We're good.

Has Nick Pavetta gone? No. He is not. Okay. But you know, that will It may have been a little early for Gavin Williams. That was okay. I'm not sure that Nick Povetta will help our ERA calls. No. No. Yeah. I mean,

it depends it depends how much san diego helps them that that's the whole argument right i have uh two names that i am thinking about let me uh let me add those to the queue uh if well there goes there's rodon so yeah all right well carlos rodon has an amazing season just know uh know who told you to take him i don't have much faith in carl's rodon either it's just i believe he was my highest ranked feature there. He was our consensus highest ranked player by a decent margin. Scott wanted

the upside. Chris voted. Chris had his say too. I'm surprised, Chris, you're usually the Rodon guy. This is democracy manifest. But it was your vote. You were the deciding vote. I'm glad

you were. Don't get you wrong. Who do I want to add here? Okay. I'm going to add this guy too. No jerks and pro far fight coming. It's probably for the best. Oh, I see. I see where it's just, I added two.

I'm picking up what you're putting down. I added two players to the top of the queue that I am thinking about here. After we took Gavin Williams, it was David Bednar, Michael Tolia, Carlos Rodon, you say Kikuchi, and we are into round 15. Nick Castellanos and Jerkson Profar. By the end of this round, we will have. we will be halfway through the draft exactly. What do you guys think about the players I added?

I get it. Yeah. I would probably prefer to go starting pitcher because we still need a lot of them. But let me see if there are any obvious values at starting pitcher. They're all kind of spot on here in terms of where they need to go, if they should go. we are not thinking hitter we are on the clock i did add a hitter yeah it seems is it too early for him

it's early by 80s too early okay then my vote would be for clay holmes might be early that is a big admission over set lugo and rinaldo lopez over rinaldo lopez for sure yeah my rankings don't necessarily reflect that but yes so chris came in as the low guy on Holmes. I'm just saying our whip is a little scary because we have... Well, if he's getting strikeouts, he's not going to be a whip problem. No, that's a fair point. That's a fair point. I'm in on Holmes. I'm in on Holmes.

I'm in on Holmes. That's going to be the pick. Terrible pick. Our whip could be a little questionable because we've got Valdez, Nola, a little bit higher at this point. Gavin Williams. walks have been a problem and his career so far Clay Holmes has been a whip guy so

it's a bet on Holmes and Lugo Williams taking steps forward for sure I don't know why I said Lugo Holmes and Williams yeah Gavin Williams

The next pick was Taylor Ward by the way If either of the name The two names of the top of the queue make it back Can we take one of those Chris I know they're so unexciting but it's just... Well, you know who's good for WIP. I know who you're going to say.

I just moved him to the top of the queue. He's way... He's going to be way beyond ADP at that point, too. This name also good for WIP. I just added him to the bottom. Yeah. Not exciting, but... All right, it was Nick Pavetta, who I was talking about.

He's gone now. So there you go. It sounds like you guys are not fully on board the Pivotta. train. I mean, to be honest, he might have fit our team better than Clay Holmes. If we were just thinking about WIP, you know, China. That's a fair point. The thing is, the thing about a Clay Holmes pick and a Gavin Williams pick both is if what we're seeing this spring is true, they're just going to be good at everything. Yes. No, that's, yeah, that's, that's always the thing when you're talking about breakouts is like, if Gavin Williams doesn't

improve, then he's just bad. Yeah. So it's not really like a, oh, his whip, like he's a whip especially. It's, if he's good, he's good. And if he's not, then he's, it doesn't matter. I get the specific concerns about whip with the team that we built. Yeah. After Clay Holmes, we took Clay Holmes, there is Taylor Ward, Nick Pavetta, Seth Lugo,

Brandon fought. So a pitcher run and then Tommy Edmund. Yeah. We do only have three outfielders. Um, with the draft halfway done. We have, we have no second baseman. We have ignored outfield for quite some time now. Um, good thing we took Drew, Dylan Cruz.

Yep. His name should be Drew, Drew Cruz. Do you ever like, there's still some kind of interesting outfielders left. Yeah, outfield's okay. Um, do you guys ever think about the fact that like Dylan Cruz and O'Neill Cruz have the same last name? even though they don't. Yeah. I was talking to someone

and they were talking about Cruz and my mind automatically went to O'Neill Cruz but they were talking about Dylan Cruz. And Tom Cruise spells his name completely differently. Oh man, that's a good point. A couple of picks here,

Tage Bradley, Nolan Aronado, Christian Encarnacian Strand, Alexis Diaz. Encarnacian Strand, that's a big riser here with Spencer Steer potentially starting the year on the IL.

And that sound you heard was Nico Horner. That's disappointing and frustrating. I would have been very happy with Nico Horner as our second baseman. He would have fit. And I'm, uh, I don't think we have batting at major batting average concerns at this point. We've done so much to reclaim that. And we definitely don't have a steals need that I'm seeing.

So you guys don't want Luis arise as our second base? Well, well, not right now. We'll see how far. or falls. What does he normally go? Yeah, he should be gone by now. How do you guys feel about steer here? Like just where him being taken?

Yeah. I think I'm fine with it. I need to move him up. So it's 184th overall. So he has been a big faller. Yeah, I still have him as a top 140 pick. And we're getting shortstop run. Zach Netto, Jeremy Pena, Danesby, Swanson,

which is good for us because we does not impact us at all. literally cannot take a short step. Well, we can't. That's true. We can't. So do we take a closer now? Frank wanted us to last round. I'm fine with taking a closer.

Ryan Presley's a better pitcher than Kyle Finning. In our queue, by the way. Yeah, there are some upside second baseman. Yeah, I'd rather wait. If we were going to take a second baseman this round, it would have been Horner if he's there. Otherwise, I'm fine waiting. Okay. Is this far enough?

for Annala Lopez, by the way? It's more quite a bit now. I have no interest, personally. I get it. Like, where we have him ranked is, this is a fine thing. Let's take a closer. Let's take a closer. Which one do you guys want?

I prefer Presley. Yeah. I got a lot of Finnegan already, so let's diversify. So we've got two closers. Robert Suarez and Ryan Presley. That never went wrong before. Never. I don't love it.

It's gross. It's a little gross. But that is the opportunity cost. I mean, we had, in our first 12 picks, nine of them were hitters. So, I mean, at some point we had to load up on pitching. We didn't take our first closer until round 13. So we will hope and pray that they are their team's closers and they just do not get destroyed early in the season. I mean, we might be able to get their backups.

Fair? Fair point indeed. Colton Couser, the next pick here, 189th overall. Spencer Arrogetti, who I saw made a decent start today. I think it was like four innings, one run, two strikeouts, or three strikeouts, something like that. Guys got a noodle arm. Only one walk for Arrogatti, I believe, in that start. Lane Thomas, the next pick.

What are you guys thinking here for us? let's get the other closer oh i mean gosh that would be uh quite quite the trio we can win saves we could or we could have zero closers by may our ratios oh thank you thank you again who we were thinking about like with presley when we took presley but i was not thinking about double tapping both of them. I'd like to get a third safe source if possible. It doesn't have to be right now. I agree. I'd rather wait. Frankly, I'd rather get a, I think we could get a fourth perspective safe source. They don't really have a choice on waiting at second base now because Andrus Jimenez just went. At the turn, it was Kyle Finnegan and McKenzie Gore.

Frank. Yates just went to. We got a couple of good second basemen here. Yeah, I'm not worried about second base at all, actually. Okay. we're on deck i like the two pictures at the top of our queue by the way i wouldn't say i like either of them all right we're up but i understand gorse gone right yeah he just went he just went i think i'm with you frank on renaldo at this point as much it is a lot of i mean having him and glass down together it's a lot of risk i'd rather take someone like zach afflin i like avaldi two.

Eflin's a good call. It definitely helps the whip. I like that too. If you want to play it safe with WIP, I think Avaldi or Eflin is totally fine. I don't, is Avaldi that good for WIP? He was 11, 11, 11, 11, last two years.

I guess he had the same, exactly the same as Lopez last year. And Lopez, I expect to be significantly worse. And Eflin, I think will be 115 or less. Yeah. I think it's between one of those two. I think we got to help the whip. my votes for afflin scott my votes for lopez all right so then i will uh take zach efflin i will agree

with you oh thank you i was really worried you are going to make the wrong choice no i just i think it's too much injury risk with lopez and glass now and i think we needed with help and his velocities down this spring i i think there's a decent chance this is just an outright disaster season for rinaldo lopez who it was down in one start to the By the way, had a... After that, by the way, did we get an update? No, they... No.

No? Okay. Go ahead, Chris. But he had a 394 XERA last year. I really think he's just... I think it was a total flash in the pan. All right. Again, that's... Rinaldo Lopez is being... You're persuaded by the big jump and strikeout slate?

No, because it also came with a shoulder and forearm injuries. But he was helping by the end. Kerry Carpenter, Yandy Diaz, and Luisha Rice the next three picks. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we should have taken a rise. He fell a long way. I just don't think we need it. But that is five pitchers in a row now for us.

Yeah, it is a lot of pitching. Like we are, I think, one pitching spot in our lineup left to fill. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but we have three, five hitter spots left to fill, too. Yep. I just added two names to the bottom of the queue. I don't know if either of you guys are. I like the corner infielder. They're both corners.

They're both corner infielders, Chris. I like the corner infielder who has to throw more often. Okay. Yeah, I'm kind of warming up to him. I mean, I guess I was never cold on him, but. Mikelter's a student as well. That was the next pick here. I'm going to admit, I have not even thought about drafting Michael Garcia at any point this year.

Yeah, me neither. That's, he was in, my 14 most overrated by ADP came out today and Michael Garcia was on that list. Like, I'm not even sure how much he's going to play. Yeah, I think there's a decent chance he's not an everyday player. Like, he might just- We are tied for the most pitchers rostered, by the way, so far. Well, we went cheap, so I would, I don't mind that. Yeah, no, I'm just letting you know, catching people up.

After Garcia, there was you Darvish and Nathan Avaldi. But you know what? Kind of reassures me, everybody else in this draft room also passing on Ronaldo Lopez. We all know the same information and they're passing on him too. There will come a point where we have to take him if that continues much longer. I thought we had already reached that point, frankly. Chris is so out. That was me with Robert Suarez, though, and we still drafted him.

Yeah, so I mean, Chris has one vote and his vote. it's an automatic no so when frank and i agree that it's time to take lopez i do think we have to get back in on at least one hitter with these next two days yeah i think i think we hit hit her for a little while nick ladolo at the turn uh looked very good in his start today as well i think it was four shut out with six strikeouts i think the upside still extremely high with nick Lodolo. Yep. Byron Bucksson.

That's a fun turn there. I haven't looked at the data from Lodolo's start today. The results were good. Did the curveball seem to have its old movement back? Did either view? I'm sure Frank didn't get a chance to look at it. I didn't look at the stack cast. I just looked at like the general box scores.

Yeah. Yeah, me too. I'll take a look now. Yeah, curveball seemed fine. That's good. That's encouraging. He hadn't had a good start yet,

and I know that's probably a dumb reason to downgrade him. but given the way he finished last season i really wanted to see some results from yeah 11 wifts on 11 whiffs on 66 pitches is about a 14 percent rate uh maybe 15 percent and five whiffs on 24 curveballs it's good start yep i definitely like the guys we have queued up over louisa and hefo uh he did play in a minor league game Yeah, the last update is he'll get some at bats in a minor league game on Wednesday. Yeah, so it seems like he'll be ready. Carlos Estevez goes that was not to the team that had Lucas Ersig.

Do you think people make too much of handcuffing relievers at times? Well, you know what? Not in a 15 team league, but this isn't a 15 team. Like, I have to keep reminding myself that I've never done a 12 teamer in this draft room. Yeah. I have, but yeah, I get what you're saying. I also added a catcher to the queue. Too early.

I like them, but it's, I think it's really. Yeah, we got bigger needs, especially since we got, like, I'm total, like, we could use our last pick on a second catcher for all I care. I think real muto is the furthest ahead I've ever been in a two catcher league this year, at catcher. that feels like such a luxury to me okay i can be overruled of course that is how democracy works but walker beuler and horre saler the next two picks for he saler someone i do like to uh approach 30 home runs this season yeah if you need a cheap source of power which we don't really

uh he's one of the best ones out there yeah although there is a better one out there i think Is that who you just added to the queue? I added him. Oh, we, yeah. Scott, I hit the button literally at the exact same time. Ah,

that's who I would have pushed to take here. Mountcastle? Yeah. No, we got a better corner and field option at the top of the queue. And I say that as king, the king of the Mount Castle. Uh,

well, I like the second basement. I just moved them behind. Yeah. But there's a, there's a fallback. second baseman. Yep.

It's probably the same one Chris has in mind. I think Matt Scholl's. Yeah, I think that Charles is the better big. Okay. You don't think that we're taking too many young players? I mean,

we have Cruz already. That's one. Yeah. Now we'll have two. Tristan and L.A. Dela Cruz are young as well. Yeah. Yeah, but they're not.

I don't think that's good. Well, De La Cruz is. Yeah, I don't think we're, So you guys want to matchaw, right? Yeah. It's a fun team.

If nothing else, it's a fun team. Yeah. We're having fun, guys. And Scott's not the one who has to manage it. So, yeah. After who is going to manage it? I think Frank and I are going to talk it through. Frank's going to manage it.

Oh, no. I've got to be the one. I just gave you a choice. Jackson Holiday went right afterward. Well, that's the second base we were considering. I was referring to, yeah. Yeah. his ADP was higher so maybe we should have

I'm fine with it he might be awesome this year yeah but he's still on three bases this spring he's still having some pretty bad play discipline issues this spring Chris I'm sorry yeah striking out less than 25% of the time holiday yeah his swing rate is super high it's like 60% so far

I don't even know how to look that up for spring stats So I'll take your word for it. By the way, as we're talking about second baseman, I just saw Zach Galloff at the top. He has a 48% strikeout rate rate this spring. He apparently remade his stance, which you don't hear about as much anymore, right? I feel like growing up in the 90s,

guys were changing their stances constantly. Like Brett Boone had a million different stances, Cal Ripkin. Isn't that the bull case for Ellie? He shortened his swing more than changing. his stance but I guess that includes stance changes um I just saw someone change their stance someone else did I add it to my notes let's see if I did I probably didn't because I don't usually care about that but uh nope oh Pedro Pahas is trying to hit for more power and he's

changed his stance but that probably doesn't matter very much all right some fun picks here after we took Shaw there was Jackson Holiday Ceydon Raphaela Ivan Herrera who we kept telling Chris it was too early to take Ivan Herrera and then it's around 19 Glaver Torres, Cedric Mullins, Jackson Job and Tanner Halk, we are up. All right, we need two outfielder still and there is an outfielder

who has really slipped. He's a lot. ADP. Tyler O'Neill. Yeah. I prefer I'm just a letter who Yeah. He's upset about losing.

Where we are in the draft room. We're getting a visit from Robo Scott. He is here in the NFBC draft room. How'd you get there? Who do you guys actually want, though? Tyler O'Neill would be my pick. Scott?

Looking up some ADPs real quick. Yeah. Our hitting is pretty safe as far as injury risks, so I think I'm okay taking that on Tyler O'Neill. Let's do it. Good value we need in now, Fielder. Let's do it. Tyler O'Neill.

come on down. I think we could have used some more power there too. Yeah, I agree. What do you guys think about maybe this guy a little bit later to help offset some batting average? Yeah, I like that one. I think the bottom two players in our queue should be helpful in both in that category. Scott is out.

Well, we need a fifth outfielder, and there are just so many left that I can get more excited about. Like, I think T.J. Friedel could help him batting average, right? What did he hit two years ago? I think he was like, 279. Really? Hmm. Yeah. 226 last year, but he was playing hurt, so.

Yeah. By the way, now that Yvonne Herrera is gone, I'm totally fine waiting as long as Scott wants to on second catcher. I mean, I like this guy, too, for, you want to help boost batting average a little bit. So my take on catchers in two. catcher leagues is once you get past langleers i can see upside in ones that are available after that like there are different degrees of upside but in terms of most likely scenario they're all like 240 with a dozen homers 40 140 rbi i'm just much higher on yvonne herrera than you are i think

about her is a legitimately good hitter well he has pause is going to steal a lot of it bats from him right that's the problem say like his defense so much more sure i think that's that's a reasonable but I think Yvonne Herrera is good enough to get D.H. at Bats. We have almost... Go ahead, Scott. I think the two best hitters in the Cardinals lineup might be catcher eligible. That's how much I like Yvonne Herrera.

Fair enough. I just wish there wasn't the playing time concern for him. No, I think that's fair. The Cardinals especially seem like an organization that values catcher defense. After Tyler O'Neill, Josh Young, Ryan Jeffers, Tyler Stevenson, who... is getting his back checked out. Yeah, he fell a lot because of that. Yeah, he, I mean, he might be fine,

but, you know, it's kind of up in the air a little bit right now. Brendan Donovan and then Carlos Correa. And there goes my, one of my batting average helps in the outfield, Junghu Lee is. That was the player I was scoffing at. I kind of like him, man. He might bat third for the Giants. I think he's a good value.

You know who's a good batting average help in the outfield that, Oh, is he already gone? Maybe he's already taken. Well, that's why I want to Junghuli. Lordus Curiel is who I was going to say. He's gone. He's gone. I was looking at him before he went at the previous turn.

Okay. Then Matt Walner and Reese Hoskins, so some power for Team 12 there. Hoskins needs to start moving up. He's having a very good spring. Yeah. I mean, what if last year was just him coming back from a T. ACL and he just wasn't himself, you know?

Right. I think that's a totally reasonable explanation. We discarded him too quickly. Possibly, yeah. He's got five home runs and 25 plate appearances. Guys, I think the guy at the top of our queue. It might be time. It might be time.

I really don't want to. I get it. I'm just really hoping someone else takes him. Jane Boss, the next pick. I am becoming. Chris is just going to hope with every yellow sticker that's up. Please. I have a really bad feeling about Shane Bos, you guys.

I don't feel like there's a lot of negative attention surrounding him, but I just don't think he's the same pitcher anymore. I don't think he was last year. It's been a really bad spring. Well, yeah. I hadn't realized that, yeah. The slider, he didn't throw it as much. It wasn't breaking as much.

It wasn't that good coming back. and it was true in the miners too coming back from Tommy John surgery he didn't really have the slider he managed to pitch to us an ERA around three but with a low strikeout rate and now he's getting knocked around this spring oh that's fun he's just Lazardo just went not Shane Boz getting no no no not Shane Boz uh oh there you go Chris oh thank you Renato Lopez to be there's Fair. He was our top player for like 50 straight picks in the consensus rankings. Yeah.

Could be a league winning pick, okay? It could be. You just cost us the league. Outside of the top 180. I will give you credit. It could be a league winner. So we should probably take our second baseman next, right? Well, there goes there.

Boy, he just went. Jonathan India. Great. I did push for Jackson Holiday a little bit earlier Yeah Who knows if Shawl would have made it back to us Then I'm fine waiting at second base

For the other guy that's in our queue Yeah there's no reason to reach for him right Yeah Okay let's We've said that before Well What kind of relievers are left It's

Puck is still there, right? Yeah, it's mostly speculative guys. But Martinez is gone. Yep. Martinez is gone. But if we like Puck, it's got to be soon. Or do we want to take the guy at the top of the queue, who I really like, but is ADPs lower?

And you understand why. Yeah, I don't, I'd rather go the reliever route. Is Puck the best one there? Yeah, who would be your pick, Chris? Foley and Foshae are still there. They tend to go later. We don't need to take them now. Yeah, I think Puck is a better pick.

I think I'm good with Puck as well, Scott? Is Boreos there? Yeah, but. Or do we take the one I just moved to the top, so we just lock it up? I'd rather have Puck. Yeah. Okay. It's too early for that guy.

AJ Puck, come on down. Yeah, I, Porter Hodge is the other guy, and I'm fine saying the name because I, I, I, you don't like him at all, I know. Well, it just, what do you do? really it's really early for a guy who really doesn't have any kind of track record outside of the what 30 innings he threw at the major league level last year it would have been way ahead of ADP to take him and like it's not like his minor league track record is super great and he's not a closer so it just I just I feel like AJ puck is just a better player and if I'm going to take a non-closer it's got to be someone who I'm very confident is good and I'm not with Porter hodge there all fair points uh catch people up on picks uh before man a j puck there was drew rasmussen garrett mitchell jonathan india uh next two picks after we took puck rase olson and connor wong the the red sox big three have all homered today now oh that's what you want to see out of

the prospect showcase game that is fun that is fun wow very nice the big three by the way being Marcelo Meyer, Christian Campbell, and Roman Anthony. Who, I mean, of the three, Christian Campbell is the most likely to be on the opening day roster. But I think we'll see all three at some point this season. Nobody else in the lineup even has a hit. That's the future. The future is bright for the Red Sox. The future is now, by the way.

I mean, they all might be Major League ready, yeah. This is 100% me just being like the Yankees pessimist. I think the Red Sox. I think the Red Sox is going to win the division. I don't. Why Sean Mania? I think their pitching is going to be a problem. And Foley goes.

Jason Foley is Sean Mania, George Springer. I think the Red Sox are going to be a team to target in DFS games on both sides. Yeah, just every game is like. Yeah, a lot of, a lot of big. big crooked numbers on both sides. Just like Corse Field, playing in Corpus Field all the time. I mean, Fenway's the second best hitting park in baseball. There you go.

All right. Michael Bush. Back to Bush. We are missing second basement, a catcher, and an outfielder still in the lineup. I'd be feeling really good about Michael Bush right now if they hadn't signed Justin Turner. I've said it a few times over the years. as somebody who followed Michael Bush's prospect ascension, his very slow of prospect ascension,

I followed it very closely. Every time he got to a new level, he'd struggle for months, and then he'd just look like the best player in the league. And if that sort of adjustment trajectory follows him to the majors, I don't think he's going to be the best player in the league, but he could have a big sophomore season. I think we could use some power.

Okay. I was thinking, Oh, we're on the clock, by the way. The last couple of picks were Grant Holmes and Jeffrey Springs. I did groan a little bit at the Grant Holmes pick. I want to get him everywhere this season, but I haven't been a lot of spots. Just will not be in this one. Jose Barrios?

I'd rather go outfield, and I'd rather go with the top guy on our queue currently. It's early by ADP. About 30 spots. I would vote for who I just moved to the top of cue. I know you guys like waiting. I think we can use a little bit of, more batting average personally i'm not confident he's going to give it to us yeah i'm fine skipping that one all right so what do you guys want oh conforto frank yeah confrador i'm good with conferto so

it seems early but i do like them yeah but once you're at this point get you 30 picks and a dapes very little oh i was about to make a different suggestion sorry we only had like eight seconds less i understand yep i just moved into the top of the queue yeah i add him as well so i i would be down at that next big one. Yeah, that's fine. Clark Schmidt, who went from the SP5 to SP3 for the Yankees' season. Oh, man. I mean, look, you're talking about the Red Sox winning the division.

Well, Richard Fitz went from like SP7 to SP4. Yeah, that is. Is Confordo really the better choice than Elliot Ramos? I think so. He might be. Elliot Ramos, by the way, they said might lead off against left-handed pitching for the Giants. he had something like an 1100 OPS against lefties last year but I think it was sub 700 against Ritees

that is a player we have not talked about all offseason Jake McCarthy who it's not exciting but he could provide like 30 steals with an average that doesn't kill you like 250 260 yeah I just think that's all it is yeah he's almost he's gonna give you no power like maybe and very little counting stats So the last two players to go were

Elliot Ramos and Jose Berrios feel like series listening in I don't know Jake McCarthy played 142 games last year he was healthy all year 66 runs 56 RBI 25 steals like I I

yeah it's fine if you need steals I just don't think we need them do we put do we put Matt Shaw in the lineup for the Tokyo series If he's active, yeah. Who else are we going to put in for the Tokyo series, Frank? That's what I'm thinking about.

Michael Conforto. Yeah, that's true. They play different positions, so I think we're okay. So Max Scherzer was the guy who said, we probably should have been looking closer at him when I was pushing for Jose Perrios. Yep. Pitchers are starting to go again here.

Grayson Rodriguez is still out there. There's T.J. Friedel, who I've wanted in the chat in the chat by the way it's a good point here they point out the Tokyo series is a free look so right basically no you could choose to like even after the games happen you could take those players out of your lineup so if you do nothing you could still take them out of your lineup yeah uh Chris I know you hate the pitcher I just added but he this is way he just got drafted oh no you just moved him up just moved him up um actually his

app has been falling he hasn't he hasn't pitched well this spring i don't think it really means anything but yeah i just if you guys want him i i won't fight against it i just don't i don't think it's a particularly interesting one i i just

kind of want to give me a pitcher we passed up so many gimmies already between renaldo and jose boreos what what about uh I think there's still gimmies. I'm adding some gimmies to the list if you want some givet. Well, I don't know what you mean by gimmee. I just threw a name.

No, Mitch Keller is, ugh. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you take out his four worst starts, he was probably better than Ronnell Blanco. You got to take out more than four. Look at, look at, look at one. I am just adding a bunch of names to the Q, so don't, don't mind me. If there's somebody at the top there, I don't know how you guys.

I'd be fine with that. I don't think he's going to be durable. I don't think he's going to win many games. I think it's a lot of salivating over data and not a lot of substance to it. But besides all that, how is the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Well, what about the vibes, Scott? At some point, we got to draft. Well, you guys get your wish.

Ronel Blanco was just taken. I thought it was. It might be. Great value. I'm not excited to take him but it could be a blind spot in my analysis on him I certainly realize that I just

I think he's a low upside pick he doesn't have a high floor well if we're worried about whip do we want to gamble on this guy who's been falling this spring but yeah I'd be fine with that I added him to the queue earlier he has got to be one of our highest ranked

players available yeah he is the top player on our on our consensus ranks yes i've backed off a little bit i mean he's he's looked bad in the spring everybody's backed off a little bit that's picked two 60 yeah no i'd be fine with it i think we should i think we should give ourselves like he may be a total bust but i think you expect that a pitcher you got to expect some of them are going to bust so you need to give yourself options that's right i would rather have gone with him than blanco because i think there's at least the theoretical upside where I don't think that's there for Blanco.

I think I. Blanco just did the upside. I know, but it wasn't real. I would still vote for the second guy in the queue, but now outvoted. I'd rather have Francis. Yeah, I'd go Francis. All right. Lighten up, Francis.

That's me. A couple other picks that have been happening. Before Francis, there was Colt Keith, Andrew Vaughn, Renele Blanco, Trevor Story, Nester Cortez, Joey Bart, and Zach Gelloff. Brandon Woodruff, what is the latest on Brandon Woodruff? I think he was pitching a minor league game, right? He pitched in a minor league game.

I think he was sitting like 92, 93. Not great. At his best he was what, sitting 96? Yeah. And he's been so fastball dependent. That's kind of, actually, that's a cop I haven't made before, but Brian Wu is kind of Brandon Woodrow. Whoever just moved that player to the top of the queue, I think, I think that is the move.

That was me. Yeah, I think it's time. Yeah, sure. A couple other picks, Jesus Sanchez, and Lars Newbar. Brandon Woodruff will make his Cactus League debut against the Guardians on Sunday, by the way. Will he be in the opening day rotation, or who was that? Brandon Woodruff. Oh, I think there's a chance he could be like the second turn through.

Okay. I don't know how their schedule lines up. I don't they start the season in Yankee Stadium. Yeah, he was never going to pitch in that series. Right, right. He said that back in like January. Oh, you know, it'll be fun. I don't know if he's one of their top three,

but Nestor in Yankee Stadium revenge game in the first series would be pretty fun. Yeah. Maybe not for his ERA. I mean, he's a fly ball pitcher. Yeah. I still. Which guy? I like this guy that I just put at the top, too.

Yeah. I'm looking a little closer at him now. Well, maybe we shouldn't mess around. I don't know. Is it the catcher? Yeah. Yeah. Ugh.

He has had a decent spring, right? He's got a job, you know? He had a decent stretch after he was, uh, if you guys want to, I'm fine waiting, but if you guys want to, I won't fight it. I feel like the second basement is the higher impact player. Yeah And I don't know that I love our alternatives there Right

I mean there's this guy who I just added to the queue The second base is starting to kind of There's Nolan Gorman also But I just I think he could I think that's a last round pick Yeah Oh Alejandro Kirk just went So that was the catcher we were considering

We're taking Tyro Estrada Shouldn't have said his name man Did you say his name? Uh Nobody said his name. Yeah, but I guess talking about the position, might have gave it away. I mean, I like Strata a lot, too. Don't get me wrong.

But I was trying to get these guys to drive Kirk for, like, the past five rounds or something. All right. There is the ultimate. Second base. You guys are okay with that guy? Tyro Estrada? Yeah, I think, like Willie Castro is still there. Christian Campbell's still there.

Jake Cronenworth still there. And they'd. like I kind of like Croninworth for our bench but yeah I would like to grab a second basement on the bench just so maybe we play the matchups when Tyro Shrata's away from Cores

worth mentioning that in the NFBC for you know those watching or listening who aren't aware they they do a Monday Friday lineup setting for hitters so you can more so play the matchups and you know even more so with course field I think if Rockies are home in a way or or if you know

if there's a lefty hitter versus three righties, stuff like that. Should we have taken Willie Castro instead of Tyro Estrada? Nah, I don't think so. So we are all down on him relative to the consensus. I'm often surprised by how early he goes. He is, what, eligible at three positions? Ryan Weathers just went. That's who I wanted over Boud in France.

That's who I said was a lot of salivating over data, but I don't think a lot of substance there. Ryan Weathers. I think he's good, man. 98 from the left hand side with a sweeper with a 50% whiff rate. Yeah, it was like 18 inches of inverted vertical break. He also, I mean, he was just, he was good last year. He wasn't amazing, but he was good.

He got off to a really bad start, but he was overall. I mean, yeah, 363 R.A. You hope for more strikeouts, but the control was good. And he had a really good stretch in like May, where he had, was it? Yeah, like May to June. I think he had two double-digit strikeout stars. You know who I think we should think about next?

Who's that? Top of the queue, baby. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, at this point, it's a, you know, by opening. Players are getting drafted at this point. By opening day, we might drop them, but, you know, take a shot. It's not.

It might be worth it. And he's on our bench, so we're not depending on him or anything. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's also this whip help here, but I think it's a little early for him. If you trust the things that he did last year to remain. I picked 275 to 300? Yep.

I trust in as anyone, as much as anyone I can trust here. Let's catch people up on picks for those listening. Round 23 is the one that we're in. There's Bo Nailer, Kumar Rocker, Connor Norby, Alejandro Kirk. We selected Tyro Estrada, our starting second baseman on this team. Willie Castro, Ryan Weathers,

Alec Berlison, Parker Meadows, Griffin Jacks, Dustin May, Evan Carter. That's the entire round. And now we're into round 24, and Mitch Keller was the first pick there. Dustin May, kind of a sneaky one, potentially.

Mm-hmm. Four and a third inning pitcher. He might be, yeah. I don't know what the workload is going to look like for him. Four and a third innings for 75 innings. That's what I'm expecting. I brought up that exact thing to Nick Pollock the other day. He does think that the fact that he's a groundball pitcher could help Dustin May as efficient.

Yeah, I'm sure he does. Like he has, he gives zero credit to injury risk, doesn't he? Yeah, I think he's more ranking talent than... Yeah. I think he's got... He's gone top five this year after. I will say I would have liked to have taken Evan Carter for our bench. It was a good pick there.

End of the 23rd round. I wish he'd do... Anything this spring to convince me his back was okay because he was saying at the start of spring, it's... He wasn't very reassuring about the back when he was talking about it. I don't remember he... exactly what Evan Carter was saying,

but basically it's something, you know, this is as good as it's going to get, so I'll have to manage it, that kind of stuff. Doesn't sound great. There's Grayson Rodriguez. That's who I moved at the top of the queue. Yeah, we were thinking about it. Some interesting picks at this point in the draft. We're in round 24.

Lots of pitchers going here. Ranger Suarez, Merrill Kelly, Grayson Rodriguez, all in a row there. Our only hitter spot is catcher, right? In our actual lineup, we could take bench ones, obviously, and we will at some point. Yeah. So what about this guy who I just moved to the top? No.

No? No, I think it's too much of a crapshoot for this league. Oh, we could just take his backup with one of the last picks, no? Oh, sorry. I needed to scroll up to the top of the queue. No, you're right. That's who I want for our second catcher. I just, I don't think it's anything we have to worry about yet.

I think the more whip help is where I'd lean here. But that's just me. Chris, what are you thinking? I was thinking about that. Justin Verlander just went. And Christopher Morel, we are up. I missed one. So the whip help I keep referring to, should I name him now or no?

you can think do we think we're going to take him I'm not the biggest fan of him but if Chris is I mean I think Chris likes him I'm fine with it yeah yeah I think Martinez

yeah what about this player who I just moved to the top instead yeah I would like to get him with the next pick yeah I think it could be both yeah I think I think Nick Martinez

is the higher priority pick okay but if we could get that other guy with the next pick totally on board there are some reliever specs out there too yeah we'll come around to them i don't think it's as urgent oh okay round 24 tired frank it's been a long day thanks everyone for hanging out and watching still we are

over six hours into our mock draft mega stream and 2400 people that is quite a few so thank you all for being here hit the like button subscribe to the channel if you have haven't already. 31K by opening day. That's what we've been saying all off-season. So let's try and get us to 31K by opening day. Past 30K today. That was awesome.

Some more pitchers. There's a lot of pitchers this round. After we took Martinez, Max Meyer, Edwin Ussecha, and Michael. Should we have been talking about Max Meyer? I think it's the same situation as Weathers. Scott just hates the Marlins. He really does. Well, what have they ever done to you?

I'd knock you out of the playoffs in 1997. Is it wrong to hate the Marlins? Is that so wrong? Probably not. If hating the Marlins is wrong, I don't want to be right. All right. The last pick of round 24 was Luke Rayleigh. A little bit of power and speed there.

I think he has dual eligibility, corner, an outfield. I do want to talk a little bit about Bubba Chandler because Bailey Ober Bailey over what I think Billy Falter was scratched from his start today now Bubba Chandler was not great in spring he's one of their top prospects I think they would rather slow play it with him but if Bailey Falter is hurt there's a chance with Bubba Chandler right yeah'll eventually be up this season I just have no idea when because I don't think there's a chance that it's like if Bailey falter has a big injury it yeah it could be soon a rotation well what alternatives do they have they don't have Louise Ortiz anymore they do not have a lot of depth DJ

hers that's yesterday sleeper right there yeah I'm not even sure he's going to make the roster I'm pretty sure he's not yeah I think he has more walks and strikeouts this spring it's not what you mean yeah maybe you don't have as much boring pitchers depth as I thought because they lost Johan Oviato right j jay J.J. Bladay goes Chris Mubich right that's who we're hoping to get on the way back are we good with that I'm good with it picture upside so the only thing is Bubba Chandler's not on the 40 man roster I would guess the next guy up is geez yeah I don't know if they have like a viable option in the bullpen that they could turn to so you got to look at the minor leagues and it's

Mike Burroughs is on the 40-man roster, I guess. Wow. They have no death. Yeah. It's a good thing they're wasting a healthy Paul Skeen season. You're telling me they're not going to win every game one zip, Chris. They don't have a bullpen either. I mean, David Bednar looks like crap again.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but after a season like he just had. Yeah, no. He'd rather him look good in spring than not. Especially since they haven't been, they didn't come out right away and say David Bednar's definitely our closer. They made a point not to say that. Yeah, I generally think you should just ignore closer performance in spring training, but I think Bednar specifically had a lot to prove.

All right, last couple picks. Joey Ortiz, David Peterson, Aroldus, Chapman, one of those closer specs off the board. Tyler Soderstrom, maybe gains catcher eligibility this season. There's talk that he could be the backup catcher for the A's. I almost said Oakland. Not Oakland. Okay.

David Peterson's actually look pretty good this spring. I don't know that we've talked about him at all. He was great last year, but in a way that we don't think is sustainable, I guess. If I would be, I would consider David Peterson's Good Spring Notable if he was suddenly missing a crap load of bats. That I can tell you if I, I don't think that has been happening, but no. No, he hasn't been particularly impressive. Okay. We are coming up on round 26.

We have five rounds left NFBC Rotowire online championship. 12-team league. We're competing in this league and in an overall contest as well. So taking a little bit of upside here. And first pick of round 26 is Hayden Birdsong, followed by Will Warren. I just moved to Marlin toward the top of our queue. I know how you guys feel about that one. Oh, there's the fourth pitcher in the queue that I find very interesting as well.

I think his ADP is really late. Yes. but not as late as I thought but later than now. What about this one too at the I just moved to the top? Oh yeah, that's a good one too. Yeah, I think that might be the one.

Yeah, I'm fine taking that that shot. Or Chris, or this one. Which one do you like more? Because I know you like both. Well, cryptic. There's also this guy. No. I don't think it's boss.

I don't think it's possible. I don't think it's. I mean, at this point, you're just taking flyers on what might work out. Well, I'd rather go to the guy at the top right now. I don't think this one at the top that I just moved to the top is really a flyer. I think he'll be useful. Tomoyuki Sugano. Tomoyuki Sagano.

All right. I don't know that I think we can wait another round for the other guy. I'm thinking either him or him. I'm thinking either the brave or the Marlon. I like the top name. Yeah, let's go with the brave. Yeah, you're good with it. Yep.

All right. Well, welcome to the squad, Sean Murphy. Where did the Marlon go? Did he get drafted? No. Someone X him out by accident. Did you take him out of the queue, Chris? It wasn't me.

I haven't been touching the queue. It was correct. Harlan's Hater, Chris Towers. All right, he's back in. What about this one, too? I just moved to the top. I just, I have no idea what Bruce Bochie is thinking. There goes, we're not getting Treyk Baldwin with Sean Murphy.

Camp Smith went too, so that was... Chris, you know who we could take. Victor Scott? These are some really interesting picks. A lot of upside of you guys getting taken just now. He fits waiting on Sean Murphy. It's Luis Torrance. Oh, come on.

Get this Louis Torrance thing out of here. I just like, I like doing it to mess with you. If we were going to do, I added the two catchers I would want here. Yeah, I mean, I think we just wait until the last round now. Yeah. To be honest. To get, yeah, the fill in for Sean Murphy. I added a third catcher.

I added a fourth catcher. that one all the way on the bottom by the way not all the way in the bottom the Tampa Bay one is I think we can say their names they're having a good spring yeah I added Travis Darno in case interesting picks after we took Sean Murphy

there was Cam Smith Drake Baldwin Victor Scott Orion Kirkering Jose Soriano Porter Hodge John Peterson who maybe could gain first base eligibility He might be Carpenter but 80 picks later he might be All right, so the fact Porter Hodge went, we can't fortify Ryan Presley with him. I think we got to take one of the top two in the queue.

It's just a question of which one. What do you guys think? I kind of like the starter. I think we could get him on the way back, the starter. Let's go with the Marlon. Let's go with Calvin Fosha. Calvin, well, we're not up yet. Let's not go with Calvin Foucher.

Nobody should drive. He stinks, actually. He would never draft that guy. Ryan Bloomfield and was it Bubba? Casey Bubba. Casey Bubba. They were doing the live stream for my Tao Wars draft, and they kept referring to Calvin Fochay as the doctor.

And I was like, the doctor. Why is he the doctor? And then finally, I got it when they called him Calvin Foucher. I don't. I don't, I still don't get it. Yeah, I have no idea. Okay. Is there a doctor?

Dr. Foucher. Oh, okay, okay. I get it. I get it. Matthew Boyd just went, we're on the clock. Is that who you guys want by the way?

Yeah. Yeah. The doctor. The doc is in the building for maybe the worst team in the national league this season. Maybe the worst team in the whole league. Let's not. Let's not.

Maybe the worst team in NLB history. The other player we were thinking about went with the next pick, Chris Martin. Yeah. So Chris Martin, if he's the closer, is clearly better. Yeah. But although he's weird. Like his performance is different every year. And he's on a much better team.

I kind of think we should have taken Chris Martin. I kind of think so, too. That was again me in 15 team mindset. And like I can't, I can't mess up the saves. When in a 12 team mindset, I think we could, I think we could gamble a little more. On the skills or whatever? Yeah, because there will be emerging safe sources on the waiver wire. Are there any other closer specs because we still have two weeks from now to opening day.

So we could take some shots and see if just more information comes out about specific bullpens, you know? We got three saves guys, so I'm not stressed about it. Rockies, we could speculate on them. We could get Robert Garcia or any of the other obscure. names Bruce Bochie's floated out there. Mark Church. Yeah. That's, I don't think we need to do that.

There's only so many bench spots. I think three leading saves guys to begin the year. Hopefully two of them hold onto their jobs, and if so, will be in good shape. Well, I like that. Whoever just added that. That was me. I like it.

Yep. Let's go. Those two, next two picks. And then the catcher, and then a backup catcher would be our next pick. we don't have any hitters on no bats on the bench yeah if if we were to take those two pitchers i think we got to choose between one of those so what bats should we be queuing up here uh you know i like jonathan ironda and we got tristan cossis as our first baseman that's a little

questionable i would say we need an outfieler i yeah there are five with tyler o'neal right a multi-el um guy would be ideal Dylan Moore someone I just added there if Jeff McNeil hadn't gotten hurt I would say him I found one do I like him more than Pahas

I like him a lot Is he going to play every day I think so At least according to Ross the resource There's been a lot of buzz About him working on his swing To He can't look to everybody you know

Don't have into his pull side power again And he's been having a good spring At top of the cue Chris I'll catch people up on picks. After you, Calvin Foshae, there was Chris Martin, Tobias Myers, Kyle Harrison, Jameson, Tion, Joe Adele, Jacob Young, Cade Smith. We're into round 28.

A.J. Smith-Schawver, battling for a rotation spot. Jack Lighter could be on the opening day rotation with Cody Bradford starting on the IL. Chris Bassett and then... I will... I will just point out. Don't... We'll just point out. Don't...

There is a catcher. Don't. Who is outfield eligible. Yeah. Who I like a lot as a number two catcher. You know what? I almost wonder if we don't draft a catcher. And then we just pick one up on the first waiver run, you know? Like why waste a spot now if it's just going to be a catcher, you know? Well, because we'll have to use at least one fab dollar to get them.

That's fair. And it's not like there's an eye. It's not like a spot's going to open up because somebody goes on the eye. there's no IL in this league. Yeah. I still think we wait till the last round for our cats. Yeah, I agree. We're just going to have to duke it out over

whether it's Travis Darno, Hunter Goodman, Patrick Bailey, or Danny Jansen. Yeah. Are we the only team with only one catcher? We have two. There's one other team that only has one catcher. Who? And there are still,

Oh, yeah. There are still like multiple catchers that we're fine with, though. Can we afford to take any pitcher? I like loading up the bench with pitchers, I think. I agree. I mean, we have four already. If we don't take a second baseman, there's no sitting Tyro Estrada. Yeah, that's true.

Is there one worth taking, though? I don't, Dylan Moore is eligible everywhere. He's dead more, though. I think there are still at least three Segam baseman who I don't hate starting. This is kind of interesting too. The fact Pah has just went, I think we got to take the other outfielder because...

You know I'm in. It's not pretty otherwise. The one we have at the top of the queue, yeah, that's fine. Yeah, it's Max Kepler. So that's who I was referring to. Kevin Long is, he's still the Philly's hitting coach, right? That sounds right. And he's a well-known one, and he's been working on.

working on Kepler's swing. Kepler was another guy coming back from, I hope I have this right. Knee, he was coming back from knee surgery last year. Yeah. He was really good in 2023, and the underlying numbers were quite impressive. Yeah.

After we took Max Kepler, Heston, Kirstad, Chandler Simpson, Ben Brown, Luis Severino, Jason Adam, we will not get the pod. Okay. Okay. So there's that. We either take like a Jonathan Aranda, I think, which you know I could get behind. We only have two picks left. I do think Scott brings up a good point about second base, though.

Well, Arronda might eventually be eligible at second base. He's been playing it a lot this spring. What? I mean, there's not much upside here, but what about this player? because it covers our corner and it covers it covers uh causes if he's hurt or bad i guess uh he's not exciting but i mean i think having an option to slot in where for estrata's more important than a backup corner well then might but the second basement are pretty bad i my pick would be this guy at the top i think yeah i think he was pretty good

last year. Two more game the other day. He's got three of them this spring. I'm not super confident he'll be better than Tyro Estrada on the road. You might be right about that, Scott. His quality of contact metrics weren't bad last year. Meanwhile, we have

a couple of high upside pitchers that we like. What about this one at the top of queue? I just, I'm not convinced he's good either. Like, there are a lot of second basement who I can squint and say, I could see that being good, but... Are we going to fight over the second to last pick?

Really good second half. He's in a very good ballpark. He's going to be multi-eligible, eligible fairly early on. Will he play enough? I think he's going to play fairly regularly. Well, it's sure you don't want a picture. So it's Mike Soroka, it's Zebby Matthews,

it's Gavin Lux, it's Caleb Durbin, it's Otto Lopez. You know what? Let's take the pitcher. I think let's take the picture. And if something happens by opening day, we could drop someone and pick up. Like, we could pick up any of the second baseman.

Right. That's what I'm thinking. Okay. If these pitchers continue to have awesome springs, then like, if Soroka. If Soroka keeps lighting it up. Let's go Syroka.

Which one? Yeah. I mean, for that matter, we could do the same thing with second catcher like you were proposing, Frank. I'm not opposed.

And then we take the other. pitcher. See if he makes the team. What do you think? Take who? Zebby. Zebby Matthews. Pull this up a little bit so everyone can see.

Sure. We're leaving it to fate. If somebody wants to scoop them out from under us. You know? Somebody took Gavin Lux right after we took Soroka. I would have liked Gavin Lutz. Don't think I didn't notice that. I don't think we ever said his name, though.

Oh, I did. I said all the names. I was trying to sabotage it. Scott sabotage. Nolan Gorman's still out there too. You mentioned that as a potential last round pick, Chris. Well, it's the last round. A couple picks here, Jordan Walker.

Do we really need a, hear me out? Do we really need a filling catcher for Sean Murphy? Can we go with an empty second catcher spot for two weeks? Hopefully just two weeks. I would prefer not to just because, catchers that are available, I think could still provide something positive. Yeah.

True. It's not like, if it was a 15 teamer, I might just say, yeah, let's take it. Yeah. Zero, but in a 12, some of these guys could still. All right. So we got one more pick.

Do we take the backup second basement we want? Do we take Zebby Matthews? Or do we take the backup catcher we want? I think a catcher. Casey Mai is kind of an interesting pick there too. Yeah, that's a good one. Casey Mize, Richard Fitz,

back-to-back. Those were, Pretty good. Michael McGreevy might take time off from being the lead guitarist for Pearl Jam to start for the St. Louis Cardinals. Now, hear me out. Because there's going to be a waiver run before the season starts, right? Yeah. I hope so. If we've been worried about WIP, we've been addressing WIP. You know who has elite control, Zebby Matthews. Maybe we end up having to drop him. If he doesn't make the Twins rotation, obviously we drop him. I think Scott wants to drop Savvy Matthews.

Just hear me out. Just see Debbie Matthews. You don't have to convince me, Scott. I'm in. Okay. Danny Jans. Because we could take a flyer on any of these second basemen or catchers, which I shot down when you first brought it up, Frank.

Yeah, I mean, if it costs us a buck in a long season with a $1,000 fad, it's not. Any of these guys could get injured in the next two weeks and then any of these pitchers. it'd be nice to have it'd be nice not to have to compete for the replacement it's going to be stressful figuring out who to drop if they're all healthy well we do also already have four pitchers on our bench so we don't need a replacement if it happens yeah i mean i understand what you're saying i just don't know

the only hitter left who's upside really excites me as a ronda but i don't think i don't think i'm going to win you guys over to that one so we are with it being matthews and the last picks for reed demers Miguel Vargas, Hayden was Nesky, Danny Jansen, Brandon Marsh. So are you guys good with Zebby Matthews? Zeb it up. Let's do it.

Boom! All right, how'd we do? Is our team good? I'll let you know in September. All right. It was managing this team. It was a fun draft. Some combination of Frank and I will be managing the team. team. We'll figure it out. Let's go through it. I'd yeah, okay. I have a good amount of other

NFBC team so I'll be setting all of my NFBC lineups anyway and so I'm got to me. I'll make sure it's it's at least I have some investment in this team now so I don't want to completely turn my back on it but I don't yeah once we took Gavin Williams in the round 14 Scott's like all right I'm I don't want it to be like when the family gets a pet it always falls back on the dad to take care of it. I don't want it to be that kind of situation where it always falls on Scott White to take care of it. No, it's almost all the teams that I share with people, it usually always falls on me. Yeah, I'm just not, I'm not going to let us take a zero. Don't worry. We'll be right. All right. We are tied for the most start, the most pitchers and the fewest

outfielders. Tied for the most pitchers. I'm surprised somebody tied us because we only have one hit her on our bench, right? I'm going to stop sharing for a second, just so I... 15 pitchers. Pull up the actual NFBC website so we can look through the team. Okay. One listener thinks we may have salvaged the team. With all the pitchers? I guess. I don't know. I don't know what it was to turn him around.

We were stinking it up early. What do we do? It was the Calvin Foshe pick in round 25 that really... That's right. We're going to win saves now. Three closers. Who can say that? Yeah, I think our ratios are a little sauce, but.

That's why we got so many pitchers, Frank, to try to. No, I don't know about that. I think if our pitchers pitch well, we'll have good ratios. I think, and I've seen this, people reacting this way to my TGFBI team, too. I don't think they're appreciating just how globy the good glob is. So they see my number one, two, and three pitcher numbers 25. 26 and 27 in the rankings and they're like oh your pitching's not good but really that it might as well be pitchers 15 16 and 17 in the rankings because it's a glob and they're basically the same all right

I'm still working on trying to pull up our team I've got I can share everybody's team which has ours by position although I do have to be careful not to show team names I've got it here, Chris. Why can't we show team names? People are secretive about who they want to pick, you know? And they shouldn't be a part of a line stream. I know, but it's... All right, here's our team.

And we've got J.T. Real Muto and Sean Murphy at Catcher, Tristan Kassis, Tyro Estrada, Ellie Dela Cruz, Austin Riley. And then in the outfield, Jaron, DeSazuki, Dylan Cruz, Tyler O'Neill, Michael Conforto, Matt Shaw at Corner, Corey Seeger at Middle, and Marcelo Zuna at UT. I mean, that's a heck of a line. I think it's a very good lineup. As I was going through, I was like, but then you get to the bottom and you see Seeger and O's it. It does help quite a bit.

I don't even think that's true. I mean, we got two catchers, like actual good catchers in theory, which I never have happened in a two catch league. Estrada is the weak link, obviously. And Shaw is a big question mark, but obviously big upside. Yeah, like, I don't know. maybe I'm doing the thing I do too often. I've done too often over the years in recent years of Scott being too sanguine about the top rookie hitter prospect.

But even last year when I was like, I got to stop doing this. Look what ended up happening with Jackson Cheerio and Jackson Merrill. They turned things around. I think I think Shawl's going to get a very long leash. I just don't think you can necessarily say that the guy who's played 35 games above AA is a good bet. I like the talent and I'm excited and I think it was a good pick. But yeah, he's a question mark.

We can follow back on a Ronda. It'll be fine. Yeah, like Jamer Candelario went undrafted, which is not exciting. But when he's healthy, he'll play hit in the middle of a good lineup, great ballpark. So if we have to fall back on like Jamer Candelario, I think it's fine. 12 team leagues, different world from 15 team leagues. And I had to keep reminding myself that during the draft. Yeah, I did want Ryan Mountcastle for a corner and he went one pick before we took Shaw.

If it was a 15 teamer that we were going to take shot. Yeah, really? Yeah. You would have voted for Shaw over Mountcastle? I think you said that's how the vote went. I thought Chris and I said Shaw and you were all right. You were pushing for somebody else. It wasn't Mount, I don't think it was.

No, it was Mountcastle. It was Mountcastle. Oh, I wanted Jackson Holiday too. That's who I was looking at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our pitching staff and it just feels like maybe we're one pitch. pitcher short. I like to get four of my top 40 usually in a 12 team league, but we wound up with Framber Valdez, Tyler Glass now, Aaron Nola, and then Gavin Williams, Clay Holmes,

Zach Eflin are relievers, Robert Suarez, Ryan Presley, and AJ Buck. So the relievers are scary. We also have Calvin Foshae on the bench. I disagree. I think we're in good shape for saves. I just think there's real ratio risk with with. Yeah, but it's minimal number of winnings relative to the starters. I think there's job risk with both Suarez and president. Sure. One of our three closers is going to lose his job for sure. Is there a chance all three do? Yeah, that's possible. But probably two will stick for long enough that it'll make a real dent in the category. And it's a 12 team league, so there will be, yeah, options on the wire. And puck may emerge as a fourth closer. All right. And then on our bench, we have only one hitter.

that's Max Kepler. It is a five outfielder league, and we have six outfielers total, one of them being Tyler O'Neill, who's not the healthiest in his career. And then we've got pitchers, Bouten Francis, Nick Martinez, Chris Bubich, Calvin Fosha, Michael Soroka, and Zebby Matthews. So really shooting for the upside there on the bench. So I think of just any two, you know let's let's assume good health for nola and uh fromber and let's assume 130 healthy endings for glass now as healthy as he can be if we get two breakouts from the rest of this crop gavin williams clay holmes um chris boobitch mike soroka zebby matthews bounden frances if if any two of those six i listed off breakout

it's going to be pretty good. We gave ourselves a lot of bites of the apple there. We got the rotation stabilizer there in Eflin. I think he's probably not going to be huge, but he's a stabilizer. He'll be in the lineup all year. Yeah. And we might find out right away in Tokyo

if Ryan Presley is the closer or not. Yeah. Maybe he's the guy we dropped before opening day. The main thing that concerns me about this, you know, taking this many bites out of the breakout pitcher apple, is before we set lineups for the first time, we're going to have to make a decision which ones to drop.

We only have to drop one, I guess, to get that Sean Murphy replacement in there. We can take our time to get a backup second baseman. But it's going to hurt if we drop the wrong one, you know? Yeah, I hear that for sure. But again, by the time opening day is here, like as good as Zebby Matthews has looked, maybe he's not in the rotation.

Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I get your point though, Scott. We'll see. Yeah, again, I wish we had one more stable starting pitcher

and obviously like a better first closer, but, you know, a 12-team roto, you're not going to like everything on your team. But overall, I think it's a fun team. I like it. Yeah. No, I think it's pretty good. All right.

not too many meltdowns between the three of us sharing a team together there wasn't a big argument was there i was expecting rager after rager i was i was thinking we wouldn't like each other by the time this was over the roberts for as one just that that you know we were back we were backed into a corner frank there was nothing we could do i i was worried that uh that scott was going to lose it about renalda lopez i was putting my foot down you only had one vote to be fair frank and frank eventually came around just a round too late i would have been down that that round we were thinking about yeah i was i were i'm fine with the way of the chin came out so all as well that is well that is well