Fantasy Baseball Today - NFBC 12-team Draft

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

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I am feeling good about it. I have the draft room up. I don't know if we need to decide who's actually selecting draft on the picks, or does it not matter? I've got it up. I can handle it. Okay. Uh-oh, someone just dropped the link to the stream in the chat of our draft.

So that's not good. We are not going to be showing our cue, but we will be talking it through. So they will all know what we're going to be drafting if they want. We have to be cryptic about who we are. thinking about selecting i got logged out somehow i've got a i've got our consensus rankings up uh so i can i can follow that and tell us who our top consensus player is so we cannot pick that player because i'm sure we're going to argue all right so you want the responsibility of being the one who clicks is that what you're saying i i'm the one who clicks

I just saw that episode finally. Oh. It's a great episode. So it's about a over a decade late to the party, right? How long ago was? 18 years? Yeah, I think we're...

Is that episode all grown up? We're about four episodes into the final season of Breaking Bad. It's a good show. I don't know if you guys have heard. Yeah, it's... All right. Sohei Otani.

The draft is up and running Shohei Otani and Aaron Judge. We've got chalk so far. Big thanks to everyone. She's here. We're still watching. We've been live since 3.30 p.m. Eastern Times, 560 people here watching live. We appreciate you being here.

Hit that like button if you haven't already and subscribe to the channel. We do appreciate you. Again, this is a 12-team Roto League over at the NFBC, the Roto Wire Online Championship. There is an overall component as well. And we are two picks away. Ronald McCune. Come on down. Number four.

That's okay. I got them in my other NFBC league, like a little. Like to mix it up a little. I'd like to have, well, you know what? I'd like to have a team that starts with Juan Soto or Jose Ramirez. Either one would be fine with me. I don't think I have a team that I'm playing out that has Juan Soto yet. I have a lot of Juan Soto already.

So it could be even more. It's out of our hands. I'm picking sixth in TGFBI. And I think I started Juan Soto, Nick Kurtz. Or no, sorry, Ronald Ocuni, Nick Kurtz. So wouldn't mind a Soto. You know it would be wild here. Hey.

If he took Terek Scoobel, I was going to say. All right. So Jose Ramirez, that's good. We don't have to worry about. The easy pick. Nobody wants to make the case for Tarek Scubal. Not me. All right.

It does feel like, again, we spoke about this earlier, but it feels like there's a consensus top six now in a lot of drafts, whereas this is the top six. They don't always go in the same order, but that's typically the sixth that goes. And in Roto leagues, yeah. You do see sometimes somebody jump up and take, Terrick Scruble. And I think that's even more likely in an FPC league where there tends to be a higher

premium on the true aces. Yep. As we mentioned earlier, Christopher Sanchez went in the first round in a in one of the main event leagues. People, part of that is just, I think you do have to differentiate yourself a little bit in the early rounds. Yeah, I think to try to win the overall. I think pitching usually goes even earlier in the 15 team leagues, like in the main event leagues. I'm not so sure we'll see pitching get pushed up too much in this, a 12 team league. It's possible. But yeah, and the 15 teamers, the main events, pitching typically gets pushed up quite a bit. I like seeing Kyle Tucker go eighth here, right?

Yeah. Because. That might be someone who actually listens to the podcast. Right. He, he, what is his ADP over the last week? Like he, on NFBC, see, yeah, 13th overall. Yeah, he's remained stubbornly cheap.

That's silly for the spot he's going to have. Given his track record and the spot he's going to have in the Dodgers lineup, I understand he's missed some time with injury the past two years, but it's freaky stuff. It's not like soft tissue injuries that you would, that you would normally make you think somebody's squishy. And I don't see Kyle Tucker is squishy or injury prone. No, it's been, it was a,

misdiagnosed fractured shin in 2024 and then a misdiagnosed fractured hand last year that he ended up just playing through for a couple of months. So yeah, I just don't see any reason to think that that's going to be an issue moving forward. All right. We're getting close to picking it again. Oh, look at Ellie de la Cruz sliding to round two. Yep, that's pretty fall far for him. After we took J-Ram, there was Scuba, Kyle Tucker, Julio Rodriguez, Paul Skeens, Gunner Henderson, Corbyn Carroll, back in round one, even in a 12-team league, Gare Crochet, Fernando Tatis, L.E.D. LaCruz, Jr., Cabanero. And then the big dumper, and we are up.

Jackson Trio. Oh, great. All of the pitchers are gone, right? Oh, man. All of the big three pitchers are gone. This is bad. This is like... God is tilting already.

Well, Nick Kurtz is my top guy available. I know neither of you want to take Nick Kurtz. I don't really want to either. Jazz is our consensus top. I was going to say jazz. We already filled third base. Yeah, but we got to fill second.

I don't think any of the outfielders You know, I like the first base in still to come well enough. Well, what about Trey Turner? What about Trey Turner? Batting average? I'd rather wait if we were going to do that. The batting average, man. Yeah, the batting average.

That's, it's nice. Can I talk you into Trey Turner, Frank? I would go, jazz. We got two out of three. Two out of three. You've been out of jazz hands. Yeah, power and speed. Yeah, we'll still get some bad and average, Scott.

Don't you worry. You won't get much from either of our first two picks. Hey, J-R-M-2-70 guy. It'll be all right. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see. Yeah, I don't know.

We could have gone Schwerber. I actually, you know, I may have Schwerber ahead of Kurtz. Why didn't I recommend Schwerber? Could I talk to you into Schwerber? I don't think so. Man. I mean, if you're dumping batting average, you might as well get huge run in RBI totals.

But Scott, the power and speed. Oh, gosh. We've got 60 homers and 60 steals to start the draft. I'm not worried about speed in the 12-team, Roto. I'm worried about having too much speed relative to everything else. The position scarcity guy is tilting because we got an elite third basement and elite second basement to open our draft. I just want to point that out. It may just be that I don't like jazz as much as you guys.

You know what? He gets hurt a lot. He has is bad for batting average that does happen occasionally I like him as a late second rounder. I don't like him as a mid second rounder Mm-hmm. What if Turyo is there would you have been right with Turio? Yeah, I think that would have been I mean that's the other thing two rounds into five outfield to leave we don't have another we don't have an outfielder this is gonna be yeah There's still some there. Yeah, there was just none of the outfielders were worth taking I agree it's just it's not ideal. It's not ideal now for those listeners Listening after we took jazz, there was Vlad Jr., Kyle Schwerber, Nick Kurtz, Francisco Lindor, Trey Turner, Catelle Marte. Team one, Otani Turner Marte. That's a pretty nice. That's a pretty fun start. Yeah.

So, they win. Our pick, start talking about it, some options are going to be based on our consensus rankings. Not Pete Alonzo. Gross Peti. Not Pete Alonzo. All right, you know I'm going to be pushing for a first basement. pretty soon. Yeah.

I don't know that it necessarily has to be round three. It might be now. We need a good alternative. I think that we can, we can kind of play the NFBC ADP game because we know first base and usually lasts longer in these graphs. And I, I like Freeman especially for our builds more than Devers.

But. Makes some sense. Yeah. So makes sense. It makes some sense. That's not, that's not terrible. Yeah.

I'm not. terrible thought i'm not so much freddie freeman guy this year but it does fit the build yeah i think it no i think the idea makes sense but that i think would be a bad way to use a third round pick well we need a better way to use it um yeah everyone i'm seeing is bad for batting there's there's one that is not bad for batting yeah i think i know who you're talking about i think i know who you're talking about and this is this is one where we're going to play things a little closer to the vest or the chest as Jonathan Nolan likes to write in the Batman movies. Mani Machado, Zach Netto, the next two picks.

We are on deck here. Do you ever notice how in the Dark Night trilogy they kept saying close to the chest instead of close to the vest? That always bothered me. Always sort of close to the vest. Watch them again. I did not notice that. Be amazed what I come up with.

What? Go ahead. What about? about mooky bets. Chris, I put a name in the queue. I see who's in the queue. Yeah, I do. I thought was going to be in the queue.

It makes sense, doesn't it? Like you guys are just. If we're trusting our rankings, then mooky bets, if we are going with our rankings, then Yoron Alvarez is the pick. If we are not, we could also address that outfield position with Pekker Armstrong or James Wood. Those are the top three players in our ranking. Moogie Betts is

It's more bad batting average though I just you guys You guys put us in such a bad spot for batting average Like I would like to address outfield Pete Crow Armstrong is a great value here But he is We already have two Pete Crow Armstrongs kind of Alvarez and jazz is a lot of injury risk too

Yeah I think the skill sets make a lot of sense If you want to make up batting average Jordan Alvarez is a a big easy way to do it. We'll take your now, Verrez, but I feel like I'm getting steamrolled this draft. Man, this is basically just to beat Chris Tower's draft. I love it.

We gave him the picking power. That was the mistake. Well, this is still a first problem. This is still a cheerocracy. Okay. We are still making our decisions by voting. You just keep getting outvoted. Get better.

You know? At least one person in the chat. said, I wanted Alvarez. That's all we want. Yes, I think Alvarez made the most sense for our build. But I think that's because we messed up our build. Wow. All right.

All right. We took Kausler and Routts there. Schwabr would have been a terrible pick. And we wouldn't have been able to make up the batting average. I was mostly pushing for Trey Turner to be fair. But my eight year olds over there making suggestions. I like his more than yours. I'll just have, you know,

Picro Armstrong with the ninth pick in round two, 33rd overall. I mean, that is. Round three. Yeah. I mean, the consensus for us is 28, so I don't think it's... 33 versus 28?

Yeah, that's a big difference. It's about five spots. It's a good... I don't have to estimate how many spot it is. I can do that kind of math. It's a good pairing with Camerero, who's not going to give you any speed. Yeah.

So to get Ulio Caminero, PCA, There you go. That's the NFBC vibe we're looking for, Mason Miller, in the end of the third round. Yep. We are going to see closers go earlier than we typically see in the drafts that we do. James Wood's sliding down too. But it does make sense again. There's an overall component, so you can't really like punt any category. You want to try and be good across the board here. So, boy, oh, boy. All right, I got to get in my head. We can't draft Bryce Terrang because we already have a second basement. That's the whole reason why we took jazz.

You didn't want me to push for him. We can't draft Mike Algar. I just ignore those two positions, Scott. I do. I do love Michael Garcia. I don't think we could do that. James Wood could not keep falling and he did not. That's good.

All right. So there's this whole situation here that I'm loading up in the queue. Let's put him there too. And there is, well, this guy that there's, you know, What else is already in the queue? James Wood, Edwin Diaz and Logan Webb, the last three picks. James Wood falls to 36 overall. We have him consensus number 29.

And there weren't really a lot of pitchers that went ahead of him. All right. Come here. Come here for a second. Just come here for a second. All right. He's gesturing to me. I'm not going to put him on camera.

Stay there. We did. Tell me who it is you want me to take. Just tell me. Stay loud. Stay loud. Freddie Freeman. That's who he thinks I should take.

We should take. I think that's too early. It's a little early. It's a little early, but that is what they are. There's a strong Freddie Freeman campaign happening in this house, and I just want it to be known. The N-C-Company draft. I love it.

Pitchard is starting to go, by the way. There was Logan Webb, Brent Rooker, Chris Sale. I mean, that's the thing. Logan Gilbert, excuse me, and Hunter Brown. Do we want to get in the pitcher run? No. Would you like to know our consensus top players? Sure.

Raphao Devers, Matt Olson, and Bryce Harper. All first baseman. Yeah, and they're all three still there. And I think people behind us, there's two of them, have a first basement already. So I think we can wait. There's Mookie Betts. We could do it the pitcher thing. Who's our top pitcher?

Is it Cole Regens? Is it Max Fried? Top pitcher is actually Hunter Brown. Brown just went. Okay. Then it's not a hundred bro. We got to decide quickly. Yes, we do.

What's your vote, Chris? Who do you want here? I'm okay with Mooky. I'm good with it. All right, let's take Moogie. We got plenty of batting average. Hopefully. It didn't last year.

Yeah, but I feel, I feel more confident in Moogie giving us a good batting average than giving us like a bunch of power. Hmm. No green on that board yet for us. No outfielders. No. That just hasn't shaken out that way. There hasn't been a point. I just loaded up an outfielder that's my top choice by a lot.

I like it. You like it? Yeah. I mean, obviously, we got to see how first base shakes out. Yeah. All right. So, look, here's the problem. He is not our consensus top player, which is fine.

We don't have to go off the consensus. We can disagree with ourselves. But there are about 15 players between him and our top pick. And then there's also this. The ADP is about 40 spots lower than where we are at, 30 spots lower. So that's what I'm struggling with. Bryce Terrand goes off the board. I mean, we might just have to take a pitcher, dip our toe in the pitching waters, and hope they hold the ADP.

Just because that's when I like to take pitchers. You know, once we're into round four, I can start to think about it. I like to take them when I feel like there's no other obvious choice here. The one thing that's going to be tough if we go by anything like our consensus ADP is the pitchers are all going to, the closers are all going to be way, drafted way higher than we have them ranked. Just reality of the overall competition. So we have to have a conversation about do we want to get in on?

No. Patrick Munoz or Kate Smith. No? Okay. I would hate to waste. It feels like a waste of early draft. Sure. to do that. And I'm not saying we just go by our ADP. We're going to have to, there's going to come a point where they thinned out so much. We just got to go for it. But I think it's still, I don't need the Cade Smiths and Edwin Diaz's of the world myself. I know how you guys feel about it.

I agree. I generally, that's why we have it ranked that way. It's just knowing the reality of this draft. Yeah, we got to play, we got to pay attention to how quickly things are depleting. And I like to get one of the top tier closing. But it doesn't have to be like the tippity top. I kind of like that. Jeff Hoffman, I'm telling you. Look, if you have to be out on anything, if you have to zig where people are zagging, I would much rather do that at closer. Yeah.

You know, with other people. Pretty much always do. Spending more. Unless it's just absurd value. I just threw a pitcher in the chat. I don't know if you, I mean, in the queue. I don't know if you're interested in that. That is, I believe, our.

our top player, our top pitcher. I am much more in favor of this guy, but I know Frank and I are going to butt heads over it. I don't think I think I can get Chris on board. I just moved at the top. So in our consensus range, they are both $20 players. Frank looks.

It's a lot. It's a lot of, it's just, look, both are risky, but it is with the team that we have built. Jacob de Grom's gone. So your guy's gone, Frank.

We can't get him. It is a lot of risk. I'm just saying this team has a lot of risk. But Jacob de Grom's not. Riz, come on. Jacob de Grom was the face of risky pictures at this time of year ago. They're both risky. I am starting to think, Jaron Duran just went, I'm starting to think I need to move Jaron Duran up in my rankings.

Our consensus is 80. That's too low. That's too low for Jaron Duran. Probably catch people up on picks here for those listening on the audio side. After we took bets, there was Bryce to rang, there was Yvonne Duran. All right. Here goes that. Regens is gone.

Not going to happen. Matt Reed, Cade Smith, Matt Olson. Now we're in round five, Roman Anthony, Jaron, Jaron, Jackson, Merrill. Now any starting pitcher here feels like a match. Yeah, I wouldn't want to go with the starting pitcher here. So our consensus top players are Raphael Devers, Bryce Harper, William Contreras, and Freddie Freeman. There's still so many. There's still so many of those first basemen.

If we're not going to go pitcher, nobody to the right of us has a first basement. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think there's a decent chance they're all gone next time. If you go by ADP, even Devers, his ADP is like 58. So I would lean first base here. That's our. Well, we don't want Devers.

You've got to decide right now. I feel like Freeman's the best fit, but it's too much of a reach. I would say Bellinger, Outfield. Yeah. That's kind of how I'm leaning. Yep. All right. I don't love it.

Just take care of Outfields. I mean, it is. We need one. We needed one. Yeah, I guess. Now my other son's holding up baseball cards. They are. Is if there aren't enough voices contributing to this mess of a team we're putting together.

William Contreras is gone. I've always found it harder to share teams. Oh, yeah. With three people, it's a little. Oh, yeah. Even just the mechanics of we got to talk it through in the same time that somebody else can just decide. Decide on their unilaterally, you know. Freddie Freeman is gone.

Yeah, we might miss out on. on all the first baseman. It's possible. Even though they've been our highest ranked players for a couple rounds. Always fly in too close to the sun, Icarus. That is what happens. After Bellinger, there was William Contreras,

Freddie Freeman, Andres Munoz. I'm pretty sure we started the draft the same way last year. We didn't take any pitchers, and our pitching was nice. Always. Look, we came close last round. We just, they went bam, bam, bam right before us.

Uh-oh, SpaghettiOs. There goes Bryce. You know what? There's another tier of first basement after that. We'll be okay. Sure. Freddie Peralta? Yeah, I wasn't looking at Freddie Peralta, I don't think.

But we should try to discuss. And look, I know we're worried about losing the competitive advantage here. But this whole not saying any names until we're actually on the club. thing. The people love it. It's not really a good strategy. We did it last year. The people loved it. I do think we should probably mention some names and have some debates before. But what I will say is of our remaining top players, two of the top five are still first base. So there's at least a chance that we could get there. One of them just went off the board. So now there's a much lower chance, roughly half. It's okay. It's all right.

There are other fish in the sea. There are other fish in the sea. We've got a couple of short stops at the top of our list of consensus rankings. We've got one first baseman. I just took two pitchers in the queue as well. We maybe should have thought about catcher more. The catcher run is starting to happen. There are some catchers up near the top of the queue.

as well it's it's you know 12 teamer though worst case scenario your second catcher is like austin wells or maybe kyle teal now i usually like to get like one of those top 10 yeah there's still there's still some left though yeah and there's still a little bit of time for them i will say i i don't i'd be open to a starting pitcher here i'm open to it's um but kirby is our top uh lezardo and joe ryan would be the top three. So Chris hates Lazzardo. I don't love any of those three personally.

I mean, it's George Kirby for me, but I'm... My top rank pitcher is Lazzardo, number two, is Kirby. Actually, my top... No. No, that's only in head-to-head points. I had Fromber Valdez up there, too. That's only in head-to-head points. Got to look at the little...

Okay, so Byron Buckson goes, so our top players right now are Heralda Pardomo, Josh Naler, Shea-Langalangalers. We could use any of those three. Like the Lear's is gone. Oh, Legerler. Let's nail it down. Naylor.

I like a nailer too. Okay. But, all right. I was going to say. Before we do that, it's all good. You know, there's, it's still. Ficky Henderson, baby. I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

Mighty So, Tanya. You have nine starting pitchers left in the current tier. Maybe. you wouldn't agree with all those choices, but it's a robust tier. So it would feel a little reachy to me if we're only expected to get one from that tier. Maybe we could get two. Yeah, I would be open to trying to get two from that tier. Given that we haven't taken a pitcher yet.

Now that we've gotten first base, now that we've addressed batting average a little bit. I'm down to like hammer pitch. I will say. It is 10 games for eligibility at a position in NFBC, right? Yeah. Okay. So it'll take longer, but roughly half as long or twice as long. Yordon Alvarez has played in the outfield two of his last three spring training games.

They seem to be gearing up for Yordon Alvarez to actually play in the outfield. Just putting that out there. I much prefer Geraldo Perdomo here at the end of round six, the Mookie Betts in the middle of round four. Looking back on the bets pick when it happened, I think maybe we should have taken like Max Fried or something at SP1. Time was winding down. Yeah. What if I felt good with Freed as good. I mean, part of the issue we're having is there hasn't been a point yet, except maybe this last pick with Naylor.

But in the first five rounds, there wasn't like, oh, this is obviously the guy to take. We didn't get something gift wrapped for us. And starting pitcher, you mean? Anywhere. Yeah. None of our picks was an easy call. I mean, Jose Ramirez, okay. We had Rafael Devers as our top pick three rounds in a row.

Right, but it would have been bad for our build, so we weren't. I guess, yeah. I think we do have to take a picture here. I'm happier with Naylor. Yeah, I agree pitching is looking like the way to go now that Luzardo and George Kirby, Kyle Braddish. We will a pitching run into existence by talking about it. Yeah. Dylan C's, but they're still, we might not even get one.

No, there's still multiple guys. Let me see if I can... Let's see. Yeah, I got a couple in the queue there that I think would be fine. I think the top two. Yeah, my top two. I also like this guy a lot maybe on the way back. Let me stick him in there.

Yeah, it's doing the thing where it says Jacob de Grom's still in our queue. I don't think he's available, you guys. Yeah, it's not in my key. You might want to refresh your room there. Yeah, he's not in mine either. Baldwin off the board. Okay. Oh no

Oh no It's already happened you guys Okay now I figured out I've got a I've got a spreadsheet going And I'm trying to keep track of all the picks And I've got a little counter And any time the counter doesn't agree with the actual Picks made it drives me crazy

Or guaranteed one of these starters So that's yep Yep I just I knew coming in that we were gonna We were just gonna wait on pitching I just it always happens Yeah I'm updating the queue for my preference But

I understand that the consensus rankings reflect the opposite of that. Well, let me look here. We're coming up on pick 78, which of these is a gimmy. None of them are a gimmy. I think I'm with you. Like, they're all going to go bam, bam, bam here if ADP holds. So we should presume we're only getting one of them. Now Joe Ryan went, so that reduced the choice by one.

I think that makes the choice easier, though. And we go with Framber Valdez as our ace. Excellent. Volume guy creates some whip concerns potentially. Last year was not a good whip for him. But before that, he had been better. We all in agreement on Framber as our first starter? Yep.

Sure. We're on the board. Framber Valdez. There you go. Joe Ryan was just picked. Who needs a whip? Baby. BN.E.P. Baby.

And I presume Michael Bush is going to go soon here. It is kind of nice not to have to think about third and second base. All right. It took them a while, but we got him, Chris. Well, yeah. Well, it's a long way to go. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see how the pitch.

We'll see if I get. So Yuri Perez was the other one we were talking about hopefully getting on the way back, but it seemed unlikely looking at. I'm happy he went. ADP over the last week. You don't like Yuri Perez? You would have liked Jerry Perez two years ago. I've grown as an analyst.

Crone. You can't recognize talent that's right under your nose. I think it's a little overvalued. He's a little overvalued. No, please. Oh, please. Did they? Oh, no.

I'm, okay. Until, yeah. I'm filling up the queue with, with, with some, some, some options to consider. They might all be gone by the time we. come back around though as per our usual arrangement oh he was there still why oh no i was thinking of rooker rookers gone for sure right yes yeah he was a third round pick i think yeah it's it's outfield it's starting pitcher it's maybe catcher we don't have any of those yet could be reliever uh let me see could be reliever sure got to think about that at some point i my my

Mine would be either the reliever or the catcher who are in our queue, but obviously that... I'm trying to organize them by ADP over the last week. Just... Oh, there's the catcher. Yeah, Devin Williams is 70, 80P over the last week. So that seemed unlikely. Let's see. And unfortunately, there is a DH-only player very close to the top of our consensus rankings

that we have to take off our board. so to everybody watching who is drafting along, we will not be taking Christian Yelich. Yeah, that's fine. Somebody was on autopilot? Yeah, I think that's on purpose. Someone said in the chat that he's like out of hockey game or something. Oh, all right.

But I think he set up his cue or whatever. Well, I can think a better way is to spend $350. Wasn't that the buy-in? That is. Am I not supposed to say it? No, it's public information. There. All right.

It's just uncouth, Scott. It's barbaric. Well, Tyler Soderstrom was also in our queue and he's been taken. I have them, so I have them ordered by ADP over the last week. The bottom name there, we could probably wait another round. Okay. Probably by ADP. You know, all it takes is one person who's a great with ADP.

I would be fine. with our top pick. I think that would be a great fit for what we're doing. I think the top two would be my top two choices. And they're both available because two relievers go. So that's Cam Schlittler, not a reliever. But getting pushed up boards now. We're starting to see a little helium for Cam Schlittler with the impressive spring.

I like the catcher. I mean, I like the old guy too, the old guy. but if you guys prefer Augustine Ramirez we prefer Augustine Ramirez yeah that's fine although my rank you show will Smith ahead of him I probably just need to change that yeah I got to change that consensus has Augustine Ramirez about 10 15 spots ahead so we're good with Augustine Ramirez we're good with it I think he's going to play a ton obviously locking be the only catcher who will contribute in steals in any real way I will say man, I think there's a really good chance.

We are talking about Augustine Ramirez the DH only player this time next year, but that actually would not be bad for his fantasy value in 2026. Yeah, in the current year, that would be. That would mean he played a lot. He played a lot. He was basically an everyday hitter last year because his off days from catching. He was deaching. And I don't see why that would change.

I just put two more pitchers in the, yeah, we're in a, we've dropped a tier at starting pitcher now, which is why I, even though we only have the one from Brabara-Valdez, I was not feeling a ton of urgency there. But, Corey Sear, we already had a shortstop. I don't like the Moogie Betts pick. Yeah, I'm not thrilled with it. That was.

That's the one where I, if we had, even though like Max Fried is not a huge volume strikeouts guy, but I would feel better if we had another SP there. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's reasonable. That was to go long. The clock forced us into a quick decision. And there were no great choices there. We probably just should have taken best pitch reveal,

but would have been freed, right? Or I don't think we're in agreement who it was. Freed DeGrom or Reagan's, one of those three. Yeah, I think DeGrom and Regans were by the consensus rankings. I wouldn't have wanted DeGrom. What if I said a hard note of that one. All right, how about this? Do we want to add this wrinkle?

Everybody gets one veto. where no matter what the voting results are, you can say no one time. I'm sure Scott would have wanted that to start the draft if that was the case. Yeah. It's too late. It's time to bring it up. No, I think, I don't think we have to be quite so draconian. You know, we could talk it through like men.

All right. There's Nolan McLean, Michael Harris off the board. Those were some of our top players, although not the very very. very, very tippy-topist. I like to break out that word draconian from time to time. I remember Al-Milkeor said it to me once, and I had to look it up.

It means of or relating to Draco Malfoy. Palencia, top 100, yeah, top 100 pick on Daniel Palencia. He's moving up. I can dig it in a league where you're prioritizing saves. Do we want to have that discussion? Roto Wire Online Championship ADP in March. He goes at pick 9.2.

So actually. Yeah. Just that he's moving up. Do we want to discuss what he's moving up? I guess it just suggests that people didn't think there was clarity there in the Cubs situation. I don't know why not. Palencia was the closer until he got hurt and then Brad Keller replaced him and he's gone. So why would it be anybody but Palentia?

Correct counsel explicitly said if the season started today, this was back in like late February. He said if the season started today, he'd get the first save. I think that's what changed it. Yeah. Yeah. So. Springer gone.

The guy we were considering with our last pick is still there. Probably need to do that. So you mean this, Frank? Oh, no, no. No, you think we need this. Yes. I think so as well. I think the cryptic nature of these discussions adds to the,

be less cryptic but still cryptic arm guy or bat guy arm guy you don't never be able to say it all they made it easy for us I like that are we in agreement on Rice Liglasius we are an agreement on that on arm guy let's and I'm higher on him than you two are

because I think I think he's still good I think he showed it down the stretch last year after having struggles with his pitch selection early on had to ditch the slider but he was dominant He is final three months. He is the best player available based on positions where we have not already drafted. So, yeah, let's do Riceel Iglesias.

Did I actually say the name or was I still cryptic? No, I think Frank said the name. Someone said the name. Yeah, yeah, I said that. The chat is not a fan. We got a bad pick. A don't love that pick. Oh, they were complaining about Robert Suarez last year.

And now he's, now Robert Suarez can do no wrong. Oh, he's obviously better than Rice. to look atlasius. Nobody would let me draft him last year on this very team. We did draft him. Idiots. We drafted him on this team, Scott. Oh, did we? And we still came in 10th place. It was our one good pick.

Ah. Stryder, we were not going to take him. We probably need some more pitching. Yeah, I'm okay with getting a few more pitchers here. I would be okay with another. I'm just going to throw a bunch of these guys in there. Yeah, I'd be okay.

I think that's the right thought because, as I said a couple times in our earlier drafts, you hit a point about 100 to 150 where it just feels like the best players are all pitchers. So we're not quite at that point yet. There's a lot of second baseman at the top of our rankings. There's a couple of short stops and the consensus. We are probably not going to go down that path yet unless one of them becomes just an absolute screaming value. Unfortunately, by our consensus rankings, there is one guy who is 40 picks behind ADP. or behind where we have him ranked.

The problem is we absolutely cannot draft Christian Yelich. No. Yeah. That is. That's the downside of taking yard on average, which was still a good pick. Well, it was a good pick because we took Jazz Chisholm in round two. Otherwise, you know what? You know what, Scott?

Well, let's play it out. If we took Trey Turner in round two instead of. Oh, this is a great value on Michael Bush. Yeah, that is good value. If we took Trey Turner in round two, who would we have taken to round three? Probably still would have just been Yard on Alvarez. No, it would have been PCA. Maybe.

I think Chris and I probably would have voted for Alvarez over PCA. That's what the rankings say. Would like some more of these short stops in second baseman to be drafted. Yeah, that would be nice. Maybe some third baseman? Yeah, that would be good. As if I don't have enough shares of PCA already, I believe I am up to four.

Scott went from the biggest hater to the biggest fan. He's just, you know, sometimes it's like you're analyzing him in a vacuum and you don't like him. But then when boots on the ground, you know, you have to make it work in a draft. And it's just like he's so often the right pick for whatever build I have going. Can we please?

I'm not even going to say anything. It's not going to see it. I'm going to let it play out. Last two picks, Alex Breggman, Tyler Galaston. Yep, was not really planning on either of those guys. I think that's fine. Yeah, I don't mind missing out on the pitchers that have gone since our last pick.

I do like the ones we have at the top of the queue. Yeah, I'd focus on, okay, I'd focus on pitchers like that. Jeff Hoffman just went. Pet Boys, here we go. We will not be the pet boys. I think Scott would have used his one. He would have used his veto on that way. would have used his veto on pep boy we're not doing the veto thing we're not going to talk it out like

men because scott doesn't want us to veto him later yeah i just i don't like yeah i mean if we want to keep it 100% like i've got the real veto yeah that's true because i can just go rogue and draft whoever i want that's true i'm in the draft room too yeah but i'm going to be quicker there goes brandon Oh, can we please do it? Can we please draft the pitcher I love? Please. I'm on board. I'm fine with it, I guess.

Let me double check outfield. Hold it. Hold it. Let me make sure I didn't miss in, buddy. Say is gone, right? Of course, say he's gone. Jose Altuve is there. I mean, he's kind of a little bit.

Buxton and Springer are gone, right? Of course they are. At the top available are Altuve, Robert, Joe Adele, Stowers, Hey, Oscar. I keep taking Al-Tuvay is an outfielder in these five outfielders. If we want to do an outfielder, Al-Tuvey would be fine. I'm also fine with the pitcher. No, we need the pitcher.

We've only got one so far. It's round 10. We're doing Nicodolo. We're doing Nicololo. He's my top guy. He could help the whip for sure. And we need that with Fromber as our number one. Yes.

I think we need to hit pitching pretty hard. I think we do. We don't really, I mean, we probably got to mix in an outfield or somewhere in there, but yeah, it's got to be a lot of pitchers. And I do think outfield's about to get pretty gross. Personally. Yeah, I mean, it already is a lot. little gross yes yeah i'm not a i'm not a big fan of what's about to happen at the

outfield position we need yoron alvarez to gain outfield that would be altuve is the last in his tier for me yeah for sure but that's more because he ranks he's higher in the rankings because of the second base eligibility which we don't need him yeah but i i i vastly prefer him to louis robert and joe adele perkins personally. I know I'm lower on Luis Robert than you guys are, but. Stowers is gone. Okay. No, Stowers is there. He is? Yep. I'm looking at second base. Yeah, I have Stowers ranked ahead of those other two guys.

Yeah, Stowers doesn't qualify at second base yet. But I'm not the biggest Stowers Stan either. Stowers Stan. I just did. I just wrote, and that was where I plug my work. I just wrote a one-hit wonders article, their chances of repeating. I gave, on a scale of one baseball to four baseballs they gave Kyle Stowers two baseballs that's like half the baseballs that means there's a half baseball chance I have real doubts I like it on paper but I don't like that it was basically three and a half months Christian Yelich is 65 in our consensus rankings he goes 118 what is his

ADP and FBC last two weeks it's 128 so we are just way higher then and I don't get that. Like he obviously moving to DH helped him stay healthy, which had been his biggest problem. He's going to get a ton of runs in RBI if he's healthy and, you know, decent contributions in home runs and steals also. Really, really good pick there, but we'd already filled our utility spot. Okay, so Emilio Paganas gone.

That was somebody we were looking at. The closer situation has gotten pretty ugly as well. We do have one already, Ricello Eglacius. Frank, it sounds like you want to get a second one, but Scott, like to wait. I just put my top choice. Well, no, I mean, we've waited too long at this point. I would have.

But we have one already. We have one. I would like. So we want to drive with one. We can live with one. We can live with one. There are some others. This year's Robert Suarez.

No. I mean, I put him in the queue. No. But not yet. Like, he's got to fall for a while. I would be okay with the other one if he's there. I think he, I think this year's Robert Suarez will absolutely fall a lot. Yeah. I mean, last year's did too.

That's how we ended up with him here. I couldn't get, I couldn't get you guys to take him unless it was an insane value. It might, it honestly might happen again. History repeats itself. Yeah. 2026. I think my kids went to bed, by the way, so they can't, they can't meddle in our plans anymore.

Wow. Oh, wait. They should be in bed. It's almost nine. I thought one of your kids just showed up next to you like, hey, I'm here. I heard a, I heard a noise in the other room. It sounded like a kid. All right.

We're three picks away. All right. Got some options here. Yeah. I would actually say the guy. just moved to the top of the queue i like that should probably be the pick i and i put i put the top two i'm good with those in order yeah i think so yeah i was thinking about lukechiehl all right let's just let's just say this here's robert swarres because we don't think anyone's going to take him anyway

carlos estavez carlos estavez yeah and the chat they said you guys are going to end up well he said you you you guys are going to end up carlos estavez i don't think he means we're going to turn into carlos estavez i think he left the word out there. I might. wind up drafting Carlson. We're all going to end up Carlos Estavis at some point, right? I mean, I wish I was trying 90 miles per hour. That'd be cool.

Yeah. Yeah. Not as cool for him, but. Yeah, when you go from 64 miles per hour to 90, that's pretty cool. When you go from 95 to 90, that's less cool. We actually have almost 700 people watching, which is the most we've had all day long. Oh, good. Yeah.

He shouldn't have lasted as long as he did anyway. We have him 92nd. He goes 124th, but that's a very nice value for Team Flynn. Yeah, his ADP in online championships the past two weeks is the middle of round 10. We almost got him in the middle of round 11. That would have been cool. Yeah. I don't like anything in our Q guys.

I'm fine with the top name, just because we need. I mean, we got to get, we got to attack it. These two are our top needs, I think. What about this one? The guy just added at the bottom. No. No? Get out of here.

He's my top pitcher. No. I'm not opposed to it. Next turn. Chris is down. Down on him. I just, look, man. I know the next guy I put in the Q is going to be, you're going to be down on him.

Dude misses like two and a half years. All right. We're on the clock. We got to talk about. He has. All right. All right. So Kenley Jancer, Kyle Stowers.

What do we think we need more? We have a closer and we have one outfielder. Now, we do need four more outfielders and probably only one or two more closers. You know, there's a certain closer I like that lasts about 100 picks beyond this. You like Kyle Stowers, though? No, but outfield is gross than we have one. No, I'd rather have Stowers. Okay.

It's going to be stowers. Is everybody okay with it? It's fine. Okay. Rather than reach for Kenley Janssen, I would rather wait to see how far Carlos Estevez falls and fall back on one of the bad team closers that we like. Oh, Carlos Zestafez didn't fall much at all. Did not fall.

No temptation there. Weird what happens when you say a player's name. I mean, many times. kind of did us favor maybe yeah i don't know yeah yeah yeah no he hasn't been falling that much in nfcc leagues to be fair we didn't talk about um relative to one 18 is where he's gone in the last week i think he was like a 70 or 80 pick should we have mentioned um to asker hernandez or you guys just out i yes kind of boring but he's like i think stable for like when we just need outfielders that give us numbers you know yeah who to asker hernandez

Oh, yeah. No, he's fine. Because he was dealing with an injury beginning in May, which is the point where his production created, he had a great April and then had a great October. There we go. There he goes. I mean, you bring him up. I was just wondering, like, if we should have taken him over Stowers.

Like, we didn't even talk about Taylor. I ranked Stowers higher. Yeah, I rank Stowers higher. Especially since Sowers is returning to games this week. Yeah. Here, can one of you guys take over? Frank, can you take over drafting for just a second? Yeah, I have it.

All right, here we are, Scott. In round 11, we've got three pitchers. Three pitchers, two outfielder's, one catcher. I think, I think, well, Chris is away. We should do this, Frank. I would be down for the close. He's clearly my top one. I'd be down for the closer if he makes it back.

Oh, I'm not down for the closer. no no i don't i don't feel totally sanguine about kenley jansen i know you keep saying his name so that someone takes him i know no no it'll work to your benefit depends how much they uh respect my authorita uh i was debating whether to say opinion or authorita uh you know what there's still some boring outfielders left we'll be it we'll be fine. There's still some exciting outfielders left.

Yeah. Yeah. Outfield is not, there's still a good amount of... I feel much better with two than just one. Yeah. I'm not really a stowers guy. I'm not opposed to it. I guess I wish he was as healthy, but

supposed to return this weekend, so... I don't feel like we have to worry about steals really much at all. You know what? We have two Marlins hitters. That doesn't feel very good. I don't know, man. The Marlins might be sneaky good. this year. I'm a little worried about them.

Look, they finished ahead of the Braves last year. I think it could happen again. Or it could not. You know, I'm not. I think there are a lot of rebound candidates on the Braves, obviously. But things, they already appear to be snake-bitten again. All right, let's stop talking about them and talk about our team. on deck. I mean, especially now that Gavin Williams is gone. I think we... I don't know where Chris is.

I think we ask forgiveness and not permission here. And take our guy. Well, what about... Hold on. What about this name that I just moved to the top of the community? Don't you have him ranked higher? And we all kind of like him. I don't have them ranked higher anymore.

I used to. Really? Yeah. Wouldn't you have moved the other name down? because, well, let's look at ADP over the last week. Yeah, ADP over the last week tells a clear story about who we should take. And we make it both. It is possible.

If we do it in that order. Oh, man, Chris is not going to be happy if we do this week. No, he's not. I still like the closer, but you just don't want to do it, right? I don't want to do it, man. I think, let's see what his ADP is. I just think, you know, you know how AJ Hinch is about his closers, and it's too early by ADP and he's been on decline strikeout rate drop below one per inning last year

probably right i think we should do it man all right chris is not going to be happy chris put us in this mess you go with it whoa uh oh all right chris we have 15 seconds scott we want woodruff do it take woodruff if you guys want to make a bad pick that's fine do it make a a bad pick would your pick be Chris no we don't have time too late it's too late make your bad picks yes yes now we're going to get the other guy on the way back we're gonna do it drop half puppy around half of this team is gonna be dropped they're all gonna be hurt look here's the thing right what brand of woodruff misses basically two and a half years right and he has this really rocky recovery his rehab gets derailed multiple times he comes up and he's awesome

his velocity's three miles down per hour down but he's awesome he's awesome and then he gets hurt again has a lad injury that ends his season yeah lats are close to shoulders I don't know if you guys are yeah uh and then he comes out this spring and it's like oh I think I'm gonna be ready for opening day it's not clear he's pitched he's And we're just fine with it. He's down again. We think Bramager's just a... He would look good.

No, his velocity was absolutely down. Slightly down. It wasn't even a full mile per hour, right? It was first start of spring. Wow. I don't care until it's reaching a full mile per hour. That's just normal variance. Point nine is fine.

And it was it point nine? I think so. I thought it was a point six. You looked at that nine upside down. You know what? Don't leave next time. I'm just going to leave for good. How about that? You got your Nalvarez. You should be happy. You know what? We all got some players that we love. I got Ladolo.

Chris got Yordon. I guess we didn't get any of the players Scott actually loves. But it's right. Scott loves Woodruff. You owed me one. I guess we kind of got Ballander. I pushed for Ballinger. We took Ballinger 40 spots ahead of ADP. Didn't hear me complaining about it. You complained a little. I've never complained.

Oh, wow. Yeah, he goes in the seventh round. He wasn't going to happen in this league. Wasn't going to happen. I sit down. I put my headphones on here. Look, Chris put us in this mess. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. The disrespect being shown is just as soon as you walk away. Unbelievable. Everybody plays nice. The words uttered were. ask forgiveness not permission frank close the window I'm taking back control

I have it open just in case things go awry and we close the window we're not even allowed to have the window open no we know who we want to take next round too we planned it all out oh good we are creeping here there's there've been three picks since we took woodruff haven't there uh yeah any i know d uh... Lawrence butler yiner dyes and drew rasmussen

We still have two outfielders. Any outfielders that you guys are? Yeah, there's one boring guy. There's a few boring guys that feel kind of. Yeah. I think our pitching needs are we need to address those first. That's probably true. Oh, yeah, we just took Brano Woodruff.

Well, it's all the more reason we need to address our pitching needs, then. All the more reason. No, I'd be down to take the, um, the top guy. uh or even like the name i just moved to the top i mean we discussed him like three yeah that that would be my my preference he's i mean it's about he's drunk on power it would be about in line with adp but so with the other guy and i just there are there are some closer options i like still i don't think we have to settle for the desperation play that's that's a good good good

comment a camel is a horse built by committee feels like an app saying for this yearly exercise you're not wrong yeah all right all right let's let's lock in sunny gray just went bryson stott just went i don't know rogers are off the hook i tried to make the case for rogers over woodruff but i thought i thought scott i thought scott i thought scott well i mean by a dp we could have gotten both if we did Woodruff Rogers. By ADP, it would not have gotten both if we tried to do Rogers, Woodruff. Yeah. So I was trying to game the system a little bit.

And I dropped Rogers behind Woodruff in my rankings partly for that reason. I did not want to beat four rounds ahead on Rogers every draft. By the way, I'm seeing Blake Snell as the top pick by ADP. Obviously, we're not going to draft that guy. Taylor Ward just went. That was one of the boring outfielers I was talking about. Through a name in the Q. Blake Snell, they've confirmed he needs at least six more weeks before he'll be ready to pitch in games.

Well, that's a little bit of a timetable. Yeah, you're going to. Before he pitches in like rehab games or games games games? Games games. That's probably like when he starts his spring training. Yeah. So rehab games. Maybe we see him in like, I would think early May.

May, mid-May. Yeah. I would think May. Matt McLean just went One of the Big risers here in spring, 148. That's a couple of times now We've seen Matt McLean go

Way ahead of an EEP I think That's telling us what it's going to look like The rest of the way. Yeah. I guess unless he has four bad spring games And then I'm a little open to outfield now

that our favorite pitcher's gone. Scott will do anything to not draft Kenley Jans. I'm telling you guys. Bad pick. Okay. So I, I mean,

I like some of the starters that are here. I still, I think we still need to. Okay. I'm glad Nelvi Marte went off the board because I was worried that's what we were to start pushing for. I think I'd be okay waiting on outfield at this point. I don't know. Okay.

Yeah. I guess I'm okay. Though, though, though. That guy should. No, hang on.

Hang on. You want to go with the buzz pick? Maybe. thinking about it. It's a little below his recent ADP. We can get him without reaching for him. Oh, that's true. I just, I just threw him in the queue. No, it's a little ahead of his ADP. No, it's not. No, it's not. He goes early round 12 in the past, in March so far. And it's middle of round 13. I guess I'm looking at the last week. He's, the hype's died down a little bit. Or we can wait and get one of the other ones later. Or we can do. I kind of feel like pitching is.

I got to decide. All right. Um, oh, oh, boy. Uh, uh, Uh, let's just do the hype guy. Tags, let's do it. No, that's not the guy I was thinking. Oh, no. Ah! It's not the guy. We had to say names.

I thought that's who you were talking about. Uh, I mean, there was literally, I would have been down for that guy to, too. There was literally one second left on the clock when I hit draft. We had no other choice. It was either that or get auto drafted Kenley Jansen. Well, that explains why we were seeing different.

different ADP numbers. Oh, that was a good bit. That was a good bit. That's fun. I mean, I don't mind Griffin there. I wasn't even thinking about him. He's our middle interest. But I don't know that it was the best,

best way to address our needs. Yeah, we still have. Well, yeah, now we got some money riding on it. You should have added him to. should have added him to the queue, Scott. Oh, man. Well, you know what? These ideas occur to me. And the other guy's going to get taken for sure.

Yeah, you know, we should have, it really should have set up some alarm bells when we went, oh, this is behind his ADP. No, it's not. It's ahead of his 80s. Yeah. Well, you know, that was a discussion that was happening with 11 seconds on the clock. What a disaster. sir. By the way, we have Connor Griffin. His ADP, his average ranking is way too low. I think that might be my fault. I thought I had moved to him. I have him a little bit lower still too. But his ADP in March in this format is 139. It's 135. It's like the second pick of round 12. We got him in the middle of round 13.

You know, I think the value is pretty good. I'm not upset. I mean, it's fun. Yeah. It's no doubt about that. And that's what you're off. Right in the... That was never happening. It was never, like, once those... Once that first syllable came out of my mouth. You know what? I got to clip that out.

That's going to be pretty much. Take Jack. It was cags. And then I said, and then, yeah. I was like, oh, well, we got one... Frank and I were on the same page. So I think that counts as winning the vote. Even though we never put it to a vote.

We did a little mind mel. We needed the outfield or more. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You're not wrong. I probably would have settled on that, but Hey, maybe he'll get outfield eligibility. All right, let's start talking about the next pick.

It's got to be, it's got to be a throw guy. Yes. Trying to keep it vague. I think it's one of the top two. I mean, you know, I prefer this one to the one you had ahead, Frank. I do.

Well, our whip is probably okay. Hey. Because we have no pitchers. Well, yeah, but if Lodolo and Woodruff are healthy, I think they're going to be excellent whip guys. I would rather keep it down so that we could take more shots later. Yeah. So that would be the idea.

My guy isn't necessarily a bad whip guy. I think. Not necessarily. It's not like he's had control issues this spring. No. But I worry about it. He does have a history of it. Yes.

He does have a history. But the other guy is a reach by comparison. me or um oh you're right no this is right where you're right you're right i have it backwards okay we could take the one you want and we'll try to get both unless you want to still take that one guy that i keep saying it's a bad idea i mean it's far at this point it is pretty far past i gotta start thinking about it myself at this point i kind of feel like we need the starter more but but edward cabrera just went now i'm going to start start pushing for the guy you wanted the last three rounds.

He probably should take it. It's just, we're up. We could get him. Want to do Kenley? Chris? Yeah, let's do Kenley. Frank and I have been trying to get him drafted for five rounds and Scott's finally on board.

It would be a bad thing. So what I wanted to do was hold out for Sir Anthony Dominguez, who goes about 220th on average. But all it takes is one person. Right. And now, and now that Dennis Santana's gone and Griffin, Jacks is gone. on we're losing all the fallback options i'm more open to taking kemley and hopefully we got some useful players in the meantime it's still not a great pitching staff but but it is coming together i think it's fine see we'll see how we rounded out yeah i don't i don't feel bad about this

pitching staff at all actually uh flin in the chat says this is his first ever nfbc draft he took at least one player from us that we wanted a hose al too they earlier there you go good pick flynn did something right We were looking at Salvador Perez at some point, too. I think I wanted it more than you guys did, though. Yeah, because I wanted to go by Walt Jr. Just asking. That's when we took Augustine Ramirez, and I'm sorry, Frank.

We were never taking Salvador. I like Augustine. I took him in TGFBI as well. I like both guys. I mean, polar opposites. One is young and fun and runs. One doesn't run at all. In fact, I don't think he can run.

No, did you see? Did you see his inning-ending double-play on Wednesday during the World Baseball Classic? It's about the slowest a human being has ever run. He's, he's, yeah. For his game-ending double play. He's pretty slow. All right, you guys want to go on a journey again? Pac-Man's going for the bottom pellets.

You ready? Tired to stand that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Does Uplift still sponsor us? Yeah. Uplift desks.

You could be sitting and standing too. There you go. At the same time. Who is it? It was Blake Snell throwing to a standing catcher the other day. Pretty good joke you made that. I thought that felt good. It felt good coming off the bat.

That was pretty good. What was I going to ask? Oh, Scott, if you, since you're in keeping with the Pac-Man theme, if you lower it too much, does it come back all the way to the top? You have to start all the way over. That would be awesome if it did. All right, Ryan Walker, that someone in the chat was saying, the draft was saying, it's been funny listening to the CBS fellas argue about Kenley for three rounds.

While there's a full-time closer, they were all on last year. I wonder if that's Ryan Walker. I don't think you guys were on Walker. I was the dummy who was. No, I don't think I was either. I drafted at least one league, but. I definitely wasn't. Yeah.

We all have our blind spots. There's no guarantee he's the closer this year. No. He's kind of, I mean, who else would it be? No, it's, it seems pretty, pretty certain that he's the closer. What the heck, man? He might not be any good, but I think he's definitely the closer. Show team and I go went to.

All right. Yeah. So. Here's the thing, Frank. We're starting to get into territory where there's some other hitters we like. But what do you do when you've neglected pitching? I mean, I'm going to stick one in the key right now. I like him.

Yeah. Yeah. Or how about this guy? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I mean, either one. We have first and third already covered, so we just need a corner infield. Hey, hey, no position drops.

You know, I'm just. No, they go pretty far past where. I mean, what disappoints me most about the Connor Griffin debacle is J.J. Weatherholt is, you know, we got a bench. We got a bench. Of course, you're muted. You're not going to call it the Connor Griffin debacle when he goes 20-50. No, you're right. I won't.

I won't. It'll be the happiest accident since penicillin. Oh. There you go. Yeah. So we lost out on Imenaga and Emi because we had to take Kenley. I'm just kidding. I was with you.

Finally. You talked us into it. I did. I learned it from you, Dad. I did want Emonogra for the whip. Oh, the pitchers stink now. Dude. What happened?

What happened? Yeah, who's, no, there's some pitchers. Are there? QM up. Yeah. There's one in there. Well, I know, but. It's ahead of ADP.

It's ahead of ADP, but he never goes at ADP. I mean, this guy's kind of. that boring that I just threw in there but oh what about what about this guy maybe we should use some boring I don't know what about the guy just moved to the top I haven't drafted him yet I'm getting a little foam on I'd rather take the other one all right fine but there's also this guy oh there goes okamoto okamoto hey hey we still need to fill corner infield we need pitching more they may do they're pitching more and there we need an outfielder too I could live with yeah we do need now for it too well the outfielder at the top of the queue is

it would be fine for me as well he's lasted far beyond ADP or no he's right at ATP never but he's about 30 picks past our ranking yeah yep you want to do in Hap or do you want to do a pitcher much time um I'm I'm down for Ian Hap to get the guy that we want I mean we keep talking ourselves into hitters instead of pitchers it's just the pitchers we like most are definitely ahead of ADP yeah and we only have four pitcher spots left so it's not like we have five hitter spots or four pitcher spots yeah but all right let's do have let's do happen all right man gonna stink at pitching again no we're not i'm pretty should have taken scoble six overall you know pitching's gonna be great brandon law was out there for a long time as our top player by

the way but we couldn't take him yeah we didn't have second or middle infield or utility open that would have been a bad use of the pick i would say i'm in a hole here hang on there we go yeah i i'd be down for our top pitcher or if we want to go a little safer there are some nice boring types who we could certainly use somebody just said in the comments it's also an even year just like half the most boring pick ever i mean that's that's what we need boring boring boring wins leagues sometimes boring in the best possible way especially when our last hitter pick might not even be up on opening day i think boring is probably the way to go we need it a little boring we got three outfielders that feels pretty good three legit outfielders unless stowers

is just a bust um shame i don't know maybe it's not so bad maybe we're gonna maybe we're gonna ham fist our way into a contender scott's talking himself into it i think that's being you guys are being negative nellies for no reason we got we got we got plenty of pitching options remaining nothing is ruined we're i mean i think i'm being i wish we would i wish we got some reason though i would have been happy with iimanaga just for the yeah no i think yumanaga would have been a nice whip stabilizer for us i like getting that with but now we don't have to worry about saves.

Well. How much later could we have gotten Kenley? I mean, someone took Ryan Walker after we picked Kenley, so my guess is Kenley would have went. Sir Anthony Dominguez is still there. We could have taken Dominguez, yeah. I don't know.

He's just to you off the board. I'm always the one taking Dominguez. I don't even know how you guys feel about him. I usually, I've wound up with him a lot as like my second closer as well. But I don't, I don't feel great about it. I feel good about it.

That they came out that early and declared him to closer. It's more like a skills thing, though. His walks were so bad last year. Is that Kenley we're talking about? No, Dominguez. I was for Anthony Dominguez. And yeah, the walks were bad. Oh, right.

But the strikeouts were so good. And I think they saw something. They said that new splitter for Sir Anthony Dominguez, we can mold that into an ace closer. And they will because they're the white socks and that's what they do. I mean, pitching factory. I just moved the name to the top of the key. I'm not saying we have to do that, but he's like. It's an idea.

Three rounds past 80p right now. It's because everybody saw that meltdown. Did he have a meltdown? Yeah. I'm not going to say where. Nah, he's He's not the one. Miami.

He's not the one, Frank. He had a meltdown in Miami. That sounds like a hold steady song. You guys don't know what that means, but there are like six dudes in our audience who just fist pumped. You do have a contingent out there, Chris, that understands these music references that you know. They speak your language.

Yeah. There are dozens of us. And we all live in Brooklyn. You got to curl the mustache, Chris. Yeah. No. It's getting too long, actually. It's really, it's becoming a problem. It stops.

Two picks away. Um, all right, we got to talk about this, don't we? Swanson's long gone. I just missed some names here. Yeah, Swanson's gone. Swanson's long gone. Dom as I assume, Jacob Wilson just went. I thought Jacob Wilson had gotten drafted rounds ago. Okay. We're already taking Brian a brave, huh?

Yep. There's Sir Anthony. So he, in theory, wouldn't have made it to us. Well, certainly not at 220. So Frank put Abner Uribe at the top of the queue. I'm fine with that. I'm not. No, no, no.

I don't want to do that. I would think we'd take the starting pitcher. Which one of these board? Never goes at ADP, but is pretty close for once. I'm down. We can finally get our guy, Christopher. He is. The ADP is real, Scott, I told you.

He is the top pitcher on our consecutive. census rankings too so I think we got to do it yes so it's the chance my kids who are in bed now you're not we're good we're good with our time anecdote time my Chris my kids who are my Chris Mike you're my Chris my kids my kids who are in bed now they they were watching the two earlier drafts I was on and my eight year old started talking about Chris Bubick Chris Bubick yeah I just decided not to correct him. I mean, that's, I, I kind of get it.

I don't know how much it goes to school and talks about baseball players nobody's ever heard of. I will say, what grade are you kidding? Second. Okay. I did, I did Career Day for my friend, my college friend who teaches fourth and fifth grade. Adley was a good pick. And, uh, I did, I talked to four different classes, fourth and fifth graders. And there were maybe two or three kids in each class who, when I said I wrote about baseball,

we're like, oh, cool. Everyone else was like, like there was one time I said I have a YouTube show and one of the kids was like, oh, and I was like, it's not that kind of YouTube show, guys. It's not something that children are watching. Not that way. I mean, look, I've been a prominent baseball writer for a major media company for 18 years, and I've been recognized to public twice. Now, part of that's because I never go out.

public but part of it's because they're not that many baseball fans out there relatively speaking but there are enough it has happened to me it never happened to me in south florida it has happened to me about a half dozen times in new york frank was there for one of them yet uh another one was actually at a marlins met's game in city field um and another one was right after i finished singing smooth criminal by alien ant farm at karaoke someone was like are you chris towers i was like oh no No. That is a great karaoke. It's a hard one. That would be fast, right?

The alien ant farm one. Yeah, it's the, it's the, okay. At the end, that's hard. I don't know. That's where it gets difficult, you know. I put a few more pictures in the chat. I moved one to the, in the queue. I moved one to the top that could make sense.

Open and gay starter. I know Scott kind of likes them. Well, we're getting, catchers getting hit, kick. kind of hard here. So I'm a little disappointed because Rushman lasted 50 points. I like this guy who I just threw in the chat too. Yeah. Rushman lasted 50 picks beyond ADP.

I think we missed out though. You know, I do like that guy also, but I don't think he's, I don't think we like with Samuel Bessayo, Carter Jensen, Adley Rushman, I think you can dream on a top five, top six outcome.

for many of them, but not necessarily the guy you put in the queue. Sure, but I don't know. He's kind of like the last before the end of a tier. Yeah, I think there's a big drop off here, though. So if we're not getting him, we're settling for a pretty bad catcher here. I don't know about a bad one. Real Mutow, Austin Wells, Kyle Teal's going to go late. Yeah.

There's another guy you like that I have in this tier. Oh, he's already gone. Never mind. I missed it. Yeah. Francis Gravro. went pretty early. And I assume.

Someone in this draft nose ball. Not you. Not me. Never have. Not any of us. Yeah, there's Janir Diaz. I knew he had to have gone.

Okay. Yeah, you're right. It is the last in a tier. It is the last in a tier. But I I mean, there are a couple pictures I like a lot. They're both a little reachy.

They're both in our Q. This is the other one. It's unlikely we get both unless we take one here because ADP, they're two spots apart. Right. All right. So, you want to get one of them in the next round. But do we want two of them?

What are we thinking? I want the catcher. I want the pitcher. I want the catcher. We need a pitcher. Not a belly itcher. Well, we're settling for a belly itcher. This is a democracy, Scott. Democracy. This is where democracy dies.

This is Democracy Manifest. To thunderous applause. Yeah. I love democracy. To thunder suppose. I swear the Rise of the Sith is the most quotable Star Wars movie. And it's the best Star Wars movie. That's no.

It's the most quotable Star Wars movie. And just Ian McDiard. Herman Delon makes it the best, most entertaining Star Wars movie. Both the most quotable and best Star Wars movie are Empire Strikes Back. You got all the Yoda nonsense. There's plenty of Yoda nonsense. Yeah, but the Yoda stuff in the prequels is terrible. Not my Yoda.

Not, if anything, to say about it I have. Yeah, that's just terrible. Come on. But when he walks in to confront the emperor and he just goes like this, and the two guys cloaked in red go boom and they get slammed against the wall. That is the best Yoda moment in the whole. The best yoderm moment is small am I. Doubt me, do you or whatever he says?

For my forces, my ally is the force and a powerful or ally it is. Straight out of a fairy tale. Luminous beings are we not this crude matter? Oh, what do you think? You think this is Shakespeare, Chris? Cooking on high. I am not entertained. I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

Luminous beings are we. We're losing a draft here because we are having too much fun. Even here, Noah. Let's go. Where did you Savage go? Curious to see. A couple rounds ago. Yeah, very late.

He's sliding. There goes JJ. Weatherholt j.J. Weatherholt. Good pick. Would you rather have JJ Weatherholt in around 17 or Connor Griffin around 13? J.J. Weatherholt in round 17. No, only four round difference. Give me Connor Griffin. I like Weatherholt, but Griffin's, Griffin's got the huge. I like the 100% opening day roster versus 55, 60%. This guy's right. The most quotable line is the line that I forgot. Yes. I was flustered, okay? Is that what you said? I didn't even catch that. It's cold. Okay.

That's incredible. Outfield is getting a little thing. Yeah, we got as no. We do have three of them, but yeah, two of ones, that two of those that I really like just went. Okay, well, what about? Oh, yeah, no, no. We're good.

We're good on outfield. Do we have enough power, by the way? Scott, you keep missing out on this guy. It's time. What? Who? I'm looking at the wrong draft. Oh, hang on.

Hang on. What other draft could you possibly? we'd be doing i got the nf bc draft up top of the queue oh yeah yeah yeah yeah although it is and okay power but here's the thing you guys talk me into the catcher instead of the pitcher and now we're going to end up missing out all the pitchers again every point in the draft every do we have enough power we probably should take a pitcher um i think power should be fine yeah i think we do have enough power Yeah. Do we have enough speed?

We definitely have enough speed. Okay. I think. Ramirez, jazz, Nailer, Ramirez, Griffin at some point. Yeah, that's a good point. No, I think we're going on speed. Otto Lopez still in a Blue Jays hat.

And so I like the guy you queued up. Yeah, I'd be okay letting him. But we got to compete in more than just five categories, guys. Yeah. I think the pitching's fine. You think so? Well, it's going to turn out. We still have openings to fill, and it's going to, we're going to run out of guys we want to fill them, I think.

Yes. I mean, we need... Between those two pitchers. I think the opening day starter is the one I'd go with. Me too. You know what? They both might be opening days. Yeah, I guess I don't actually...

The confirmed opening day starter. Right. Which would be Matthew Boyd, right? I think we have a better chance of getting the other one. All right. Let's do it. Matthew Boyd. All in?

I'm good with it. All right. FBT on three. Break. FBT. Oh, we got to. Matthew Boyd is our. You're supposed to do like a one, two, three.

We jacked on. This is this, well, this is emblematic. All right. The lack of cohesion. This guy has not been drafted. Actually, no, we should have taken this guy. Not every day, not the opening day pitcher, but. Oh, what is that?

Oh. I thought he had got drafted. I'm not so. I have, I have this other guy ranked ahead of him. He's past the EP pretty far. Yeah. But none of us actually like him. Not really.

He's not that far past ADP, less than two rounds. That's tip 20 picks, yeah. What round are we in right now? 18th round. In the month of March. in this format he goes in round 15 so he's three rounds past i mean we don't have enough strikeouts clearly clearly oh um yeah probably shouldn't have drafted brand at woodruff who said that oh he's he's our best strikeout pitcher what are you talking about it's the best we got ivan herrera

at 215 it's pretty late it does it is starting to feel pretty unlikely that he's not going to There he goes. Joe Musgrove was the other pitcher that we were debating. And I think he's higher upside than Matthew Boyd. I just didn't think it was the time to go upside, given that we are already behind. With pitchers? It's very... I know I'm taking like two second. It's getting worse.

I'm just going to put like some... late upside guys in here. Herrera. It's like, I'm talking like Malcolm's friend and Malcolm in the middle. You know the one I'm talking about? I definitely don't. Oh, the little kid? I never watched that show.

Yeah, well. I think I know who you're talking about. Yeah. Saved by the bell over Malcolm in the middle. I don't know if that was a debate or not. Yeah, I don't think they were really competing. No. No.

They're about 10 years apart. Um, all right. Oh, I was seeing a boy meets world. Yeah. That was a good one though. I was, yeah, I was saved by the bell over boy meets world. I think boy meets world is that the top of those rankings for me. All right.

And saved by the bell probably at the bottom. Okay. I'm not going to, I'm just, you know, hot takes. I hope I see Boyd is good because we pass on a bunch of pitchers to take you. Save by the Bell punches above its weight in cultural relevance. It's a corny show. But yeah, you wouldn't want to watch it. Even as a child when I partook, I'm like, this is a corny show.

Yeah, they're always trying to teach you something. Get out of here with your lessons. If I want to do... Are you going to take the outfielder here or what are we going to do? We still need two outfield spots. I'm just adding like a bunch of late round upside-y pitcher types. I would say the outfielder would be my pick. Walt Jr. just took Rodan.

I was hoping we could get our hands on him. I'll heel down a little bit. And Wheeler's gone right. Yes. We did get Boobitch at least to Matthew Boyd. You know, one guy who could help in strikeouts, and he's my highest pitcher left, unless I just forgot to cross him out,

which is likely. Yeah, I think he's already gone. Edward Cabrera was who I was thinking of. Oh, he's, yeah, he went actually pretty early, like 1.30, I think. Yeah. I would say, we got to, we got to have this discussion. There's a really boring pitcher who's probably going to get. Oh, that was probably we were working our way toward.

Yep. Daylon. Yeah. Okay. So I'd be down for the pitcher at the top of the queue, who's Merrill Kelly. Not a great strikeout pitcher, but. No. A decent bet to.

get there by the end of the season you know get to like 170 that you guys like dayland lyle no i'd be okay cruise cruise got taken right yeah i don't think there's any outfielder i just added to the the queue at the top it's ahead of 80p but we're also at the point where what about this guy what about this guy he doesn't fit a need but he's just there and he's interesting and that's a bench pick now Yeah, I know. Well, we got 10 seconds. Pitcher or outfielder.

I guess we're taking Merrill Kelly. I think that outfielder's a reach. Man, but Merrill Kelly feels like a reach too. Oh, he's definitely a reach. What are we doing, guys? About that one. Well, blame the person who took Daniel Lyles, Scott. I know.

We should stop talking about 90s sitcoms. Pay attention. Yeah, but that's what people are here for. Yeah. are they? Yeah, of course. Okay. Okay.

Are they still here? Have they left us yet? No, we have over 700 people. I'm just 700 people here. Hit the like button if you haven't already. Yeah. Subscribe to the channel. Yeah, exactly.

And watching us. 40K by opening day. Do what we say, not as we do. 40K by open. Merrill Kelly was way too early. All right. We got, it's not your fault. It's not your fault.

I'm doing the best I can. But let's let's buckle down here. This is kind of a... Let's see if we could get top of the queue. He's kind of boring, but in case the other guy doesn't make the opening day, Rosser. Somebody just said our last two pitchers might be our best pitchers, which is damning with faint praise, if you ask me. Matthew Boyd and Merrillville? That's...

What's all those guys? They certainly were our best pitchers last year, I would guess. Were they? I would think they both out before. No, Nicola Dolow would have. No, Boyd would have been ahead of Nolodalo. Yeah, Lodlo missed a bunch of time. Or some time.

Not a bunch. You're right. They may have been our last best two last year. Probably not Kelly, but definitely Boyd. Framber. Pramper was solid. Not his best, but solid. All right, so we're coming up on pick 235 is our next one.

ADP shows a bunch of middle infielders going. I was going to say that earlier. If you hate our team hit the likelihood. I'm sure we're going to get more likes than we've ever had before. Oh. Oh, you know who's right to take here? And we've just neglected this spot. And he's, let me stick him in the queue.

Bam. I think we could use them. I'm going to stick him at the. Infielder. Yeah, baby. Very boring. Lots of RBIs. Pretty good batting average.

Keep it boring. Keep it boring. You're giving away, Chris. Chris doesn't want him. No, I'd be down for him. I think he's a fine. So part of the reason, so some of, Ryan Nelson just went.

I think I prefer Ryan Nelson to Merrill Kelly. I keep going back and forth. They're like identical in ADP. I like Kelly more. Yeah. Ryan Nelson feels like better for Witt. I have Merrill Kelly on an alarming amount of teams. It's kind of gross.

I have them a lot too. Merrill is just really solid. Yeah, I mean, as your SP6, like just solid ratio, Because three healthy seasons in a row have been 3 30 350 ERA 119 whip. Here goes one of the hype guys. Now we miss out on Mike Burroughs. Yeah, really. It's fine.

You know, it really messed us up. Maybe we should have taken Robert Swartz. You know what really messed us up was that Connor Griffin pick. Okay. You know what really messed us up was that jazz jism pick. It was the brand. a Woodruff pick. Unbelievable.

This is what happens when I leave you alone. There was that idea. We don't know what we're doing without you. I don't have a backup plan for this next pick. Okay, here, I'll cue up a backup plan.

You ready? As if I'm calling the shots here. What round is 20? Wait, this guy should already be gone, actually. Also not exciting, but should be gone. Oh, we already have that film. never mind never mind that was j t real muto is who i was talking about but we already got a second

catcher i'm not used to having two catchers this this early we have our first player drafted who is not in our consensus top 300 robert swarez yeah that makes sense uh do do any of you guys like i'm just i just threw an outfielder in the queue but i mean it's kind of boring any of you I like the corner infielder more at some point we're going to have to fill this I like the outfielder earlier more outfielder yeah and I I I agree just from a pure ranking standpoint but it's too early for him do we have enough power no it's not too early for him yeah that's a little too early for him do we have enough power to take them though yeah we have enough power to take him I think uh we don't we don't like who's our worst power

hitter probably mokey bets I think we've got plenty of power yeah but he's he's not a bad source of power 20 to 25 all right we're on the clock did we take the corner or I kind of like just like stacking a bunch of upside pitchers at this point but the corner corner is bad like if we don't take alec bohm here it's like spencer steer we're probably looking at or caleb durbin I like Andrew Vaughn later on. But I'm fine with Bome if you guys. I'm down with Bome. Caleb Durbin, I'll just throw the, all right.

I waited too long, but I like Durbin. I don't know. I mean, if we needed speed, we might need speed. So somebody says, I feel like you are all at the throwout ADP stage here and just get your guys. I think I'm out of guys for the most part. I mean, there are some rookies I like, but, you know, it's obviously a, crap shoot. I think Alec Bohm, if you could still get players like that, full-timers who excel in one or more categories, you're doing pretty well. And he excels in both batting average and RBI.

And generally goes 100 picks earlier than this. I mean, in years past, this year he's been going about at this point, but it's kind of silly. Boom? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think he's a fundamentally different player than he's been in the past. I don't really think there's much playing time risk. He's going to hit cleanup for the Phillies. I think it's going to be 20 Homer 90 RBI 260 average, which is boring, but it's probably going to be a nice value. And in, you've got to have some boring guys.

I thought when we took Merrill Kelly, I looked up Andrew Abbott and he was gone. But clearly not. I think I mentioned him. Oh, well, I would have preferred him. I must have been muted. Either that or I was just ignoring you. No. This guy, that guy.

Let's add some guys. There's plenty of guys. There's no shortage of guys. I do like Friddle as a low-end outfielder in these five outfielder leads. Yeah, that's a good pick. I feel like I'm just overlooking him. I feel like he's going earlier and earlier. Maybe I've talked about him too much.

Looking at some of the pitchers, Bailey Ober is not someone I have any interest in at this point. Yeah, definitely not. His ADP's higher than I'd want to take him anyway. One of those upside pitchers. Gary Carpenter. But you guys had no interest in Carrie Carpenter, right? Not really.

Yeah, I mean, yeah. Not really. He's, I think everybody's under. standing now he's a part-timer. That's not going to change. So quit asking. I mean, he says he wants it to change. But...

But even if he is just what he's been, like 25 homers at this point is not. It's not bad. No, it's not bad. I have not done a good job of keeping up in my tears here. Okay, so pitchers that I... I mean, Garrett Cole's there. I don't. No, he's not there.

Okay. No, he's there. He is there. What? Oh, I'm in corner infielders. That's the problem. If you click on a position and you start typing a name, it's only going to show him if he's at that position.

I think that's probably how I messed up Andrew Abbott. The only thing with Cole is like, if Connor Griffin doesn't make the team, two of our bench spots are just stashes. Right. Right. That's why I don't, I'm not in love with that idea, because it's going to be a while until Cole's back, right?

I did see today he is likely. It might not be until June. Okay, because I saw today he's likely to pitch in a spring game, I thought. But maybe I miss red. I think, all right, I think the comments are being a little too mean at this point. This team is not a disaster. It is fine. Right.

It is not a train wreck. Uh, nobody. We do need to take an outfielder. I really what I'm upset about, the one category where I'm like, uh, we just don't have a chance there is strikeouts. That's what it feels like to me. Yeah, we probably want to take some high strikeout upside flyers, you know, take, I don't know, like, I think we'd probably take like Shane Smith off the queue. I know, Scott, you like him, but he's, I don't think there's any strikeout upside there. Yeah.

We're on the clock. I put I put some like upside pitchers in there. I would go with the outfielder at the top of the queue. Um, I know it's like a little bit of a reach, but I think. No, it's really, it's really not a reach over the last week. It's Justin Crawford. Do we, do we need him except to fill that positional need? Um, I just don't like, we could go Trent Grisham.

Is Elliot Ramos still there? Is he gone? No, he's gone. Okay. It would be Crawford for me, but whatever you guys want. Freelick and Dylan Cruz. are both gone. Those are both gone.

I like the pitchers that are there, but it's... All right, we got eight seconds. Yeah, I'm with Chris. I'm with Chris and go on Crawford if he's, if he's that high on him. Because, uh, because I, I'm just not that motivated to take any of the remaining pitchers. I, I would have made a push for Grayson Rodriguez, probably, but he went right before a pick.

So that was off the table. Uh, yeah, Grayson's gone. Manzardo's gone. I would have liked Manzardo as a cheap source of power if we thought we needed that. So let me talk about Shane Smith a little bit. Let me see if I could sell you on him and probably end up selling someone else on him before our next pick. Instead. So in the second half, it was 9.7K per 9.

And he started emphasizing a change up more. The swingy strike rate went to like Freddie Peralta levels 13% plus. The curveball, the whiff rate on it approach 50% in the second half. So I do think there's strikeout upside there for Shane Smith. Now, enough that it's going to make up for what we're missing there? No, but, you know, there's also a difference between finishing eighth in the category and or ninth in a category and seventh in a category, you know, obviously. Every little bit helps. Someone already said Shane Smith at the top of his cue.

No. That's okay. I don't think I talked to you and do it anyway. No, I'm interested in it. I hadn't realized that he had that second half. You know, I did talk about it when we did our Sleepers podcast. Just saying. Just saying, my guy.

Well. That was one of them. Yeah, Cody Ponce was interesting. How many pitcher spots have we filled? We have one spot left. One spot in our lineup, but, you know, obviously we want some bench options too. And, yeah, Cody Ponce. Probably need to move Mania down because I don't like what's happening there.

No. Noah Cameron has had his velocity down this spring, too, and he doesn't. doesn't have much to spare, but I am pretty invested in him already. It's Noah Cameron. Edgar Caro just went. Edgar Caro, I mean, nice, cheap catcher to target. Recent top prospect, top 50, 60 guy last year. Held his own at the major league level, didn't hit for much power, but he's going to play a lot,

especially early on in the season with Kyle Teal out for four to six weeks. that should give Edgar Carroll a lot of runway in April at least. Somebody took, okay, yeah, Shane Smith is gone, of course. He said he already had him at the top of his queue. Sure he did. So here is, well, first of all, I added a guy at the bottom there. I mean, the problem is I think the two best players available are middle infielders. The two guys in our queue?

Yeah. I think they're the two best available. I mean, I don't think we could take another cross-bett. I mean, Connor Griffin might not actually make the team. I don't know that

Kevin McGonick was going to make the team either. I think he has a better chance. I think one of them should. There's certainly a scenario where neither of them do. But then there's also the other guy who is on the team already. Middle infielder?

Yeah. One you've warmed up to, Chris. Yeah. No, I'm open to that. It's some really nice power. And he's pretty cheap at this cost especially. That's 70 spots behind our consensus. So I'd be open to Colson Montgomery if we want to shoot for some more upside.

Kevin McGonigle's there, or we could take one of those pitchers. The pitchers all feel pretty samey to me. We have a needed outfield as well. We do have one outfield spot left. not sure there's one guy in our queue who's coming off a 34 homer season but i don't think anybody's excited about that um there are some interesting ish outfielders available so yeah some of the rookies yeah i'd be down for michaughanical probably the middle infieler no yeah with the other one you'd rather have calls for montgomery i'm fine with that scott okay i think there's a chance

Montgomery picks up third base, which. Okay, I'm going to hit it because we got three seconds. Yeah, he's, he's played some third base this spring. He played some third base last year. We just need some coverage in case Griffin doesn't make the team. Yeah, yeah, Colson Montgomery, I think. You got to go, could, but I just rather not. Yeah, I get that.

You guys that are, might not make the teams. Colson Montgomery, he came pretty close to qualifying at third, right? He had 12 games. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, that was a little bit past, uh, his ADP. It's like round 21 in March in this format. That's a pretty good pick that just went Max Meyer.

He's looked good this spring. Yeah, he has. Not as good as another guy that's in our queue. I still don't have a lot of faith in Max Myers' fastball. I think the rest of our bench should probably just be pitchers, but sue for a bunch of upside. Yeah, probably. Well, what upside remains?

That is kind of the problem. Garretel just went. There was some upside there. Yeah, there is some upside. I'm... And Kevin McGonagough goes right after. That makes sense. I'm being only half serious because some of our favorite upside targets are gone.

I like this guy, especially given our needs. Do you like any of these scrubby, like, closer three types? Let's see. I do like... Is Riley O'Brien still there? He is. Trying to make sure he's not. that's probably my favorite the others i am not motivated to take them at this point

there goes j2 real muto so that was about yeah it's a real good value yeah not sure it's a good player anymore but should be fine yeah he should um as a second catcher i mean even just a year ago we would have killed for a second catcher like that which is we probably wanted of, but it's just an expression. Don't do that, Scott. I was trying to think of a better expression, but it wasn't coming to me. Been excited. That's not, that's not colorful enough.

So Matt's Vonson will end up closing, somebody says, in the chat. And maybe. I think that's, I would have preferred them go that, direction the cardinals last year and they didn't they went riley o'brien and he did fine okay you guys don't have to worry about me trying to talk into noah cameron i took him in tgfbi actually i've got him in a couple leagues three so would we have any interest in one of the injured pitcher stashes i don't mean hunter green is tougher because that's out to july no that's too far there's no but like not because there's no i l spots to be clear i saw brayette

Bryce Miller is he had a setback with his oblique on Wednesday. I'd still rather. I want the top pitcher in the queue. Top pitcher in the queue. Okay. Let's see. Yeah, that's fine. It sounds like he's.

I like the name just below him more, but. It sounds like the top name has a better chance to be in the rotation. We can just say, oh, he is in the rotation. I don't think there's any doubt. What I saw today is he's the leading condender for the number five spot. Yeah. But it's not a lock yet. Yeah.

And Parker Messick is very much competing. He's had a decent spring. Strikeouts haven't been there. But I'm fine with either of these guys. Yeah. And I'm okay prioritizing the top guy. I like Jacob Lopez. I think I like the third guy in the queue more than the second.

And I know you kind of like him too, Frank. Yeah, I like him. So Matthew Liberator just got taken. Have you guys noticed the whiffs he's been getting this spring? with the slider i think pointed out that he was facing some really bad teams but it's still impressive he's getting last three starts double-digit widths all three of them i like him uh liberator and i don't we are on the clock by the way so you said there's a new slider there all right so that's what it is so have we agreed on jacob lopez or do we want to talk about the

i'm okay with yeah i'm okay with any of those top three let me just quickly look at uh adp to see it's actually messick patrick lopez in that order i mean lopez usually goes around 30. I mean, we've been talking about him now, so I don't know. Let's just do Lopez. Let's just do Lopez. I mean, he's strikeout upside, so it makes sense. Yeah.

What about this week? I just move this guy to the top again. Yeah, I keep forget. That's a name I need to move way up. I keep forgetting that. Yeah, no, no, I knew he was there. I just prefer Lopez to him, but. Because I think he's almost certainly not going to be in the rotation.

Ross resource has him in now Yeah they've got It doesn't mean like anything necessarily but Well They've got a lot of same-ish guys Unless unless What's the guy who Jason Martinez? Is that the roster resource guy?

Unless he's read something I ever read Justin maybe I don't know Justin? Justin Martinez isn't that the Diamondbacks closer closer ish not right now but yes eventually maybe you get like a big extension and then like got hurt two weeks later so who did he bump I don't want to say he bumped Zedbbed I don't want to say the name

blah blah blah blah we're in a desperate spot Chris the entire bench needs to be pitching just all the upside who did he kick out Scott I'm going to write it in the private chat here Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Scott, you have a request to say something nice about the Cubs. Any interesting, any interesting? Oh, I have lots of nice things to say about the Cubs. My wife and I went to a Cubs game, went a trip to Chicago our anniversary last, this past May. And it might have been, I'm not even going to say it might have been. It was the best time I've had a baseball game at that. where my own team wasn't playing. It was everything about it.

I liked the atmosphere, the concessions, that the song they sang at the end when they won. It was a lot of fun. I haven't been to a Cubs game, which is crazy because I have been to Chicago five times during... We want a Chad Patrick, by the way. Baseball season.

Team 12 is half. hammering the upside pitchers. Yeah, they're getting all the guys we want. Molly, Patrick, Cody Ponds, and they got Cags. Yeah. Can we trade lives with him? I don't know.

Who is that? Who is that person? Maybe it's not a him. Hinkle. There is somebody in this league, I believe, that's using this as like their Champions League qualifier. Whoever that is probably a

player I would imagine let me see if I like Hinkle's team Karee is a decent pick so they went really weak at starting pitcher after taking Garrett crochet is probably why they have to load up on up so their number two starting pitcher is Blake Snell oh yeah so they are loading up on the upside what loading up on the upside yeah to make up for shortages yeah I don't know that I'd trade position with that team, but there's a method to the madness for sure. Yeah. Do you guys have any interest in the top ranked outfieler that's left there?

Just for old time's sake? For old, I don't like doing many things for old times' sake. I'm not opposed to it. I'm opposed to it. It's Scott, it's a baseball competition, not a potato chip bag opening competition. He's three. rounds past 80p so throwing it out there we still need a fifth outfield is it too late in his career to talk about how stiff john carlo stanton's swing is i mean i mean been that way for a while

yeah it's just so stiff still you know what can't open the chips but still hit two on runs the other night he doesn't put he doesn't use much elbow in his swing how did he got they get hurt it's it's sure it was from using the new bats because like that's what he said yeah that's what he said yeah All right, but we're up, so we could take Stanton if we wanted to or we could take the pitcher at the top. I'd rather take that pitcher. Yeah, I think we're lucky he's still there, Mick Abel. I think we overlooked him and luckily everybody else overlooked him. I didn't overlook him.

I moved him into my top 300, but even that few. And it's one of those things where like we're all good on Mick Abel? Yeah. We're drafting a little bit earlier here. So if he doesn't make the team, we could just drop him. Like, it's not. Yeah. It's around 24 picks.

There's nobody we want to pick up. There will be. There will be. It's only a 12 teamer. He's in my top 300, but I think I need to move him back, move him up even more. Let's be honest. You're making all the decisions from here, Frank.

Are we? Oh, yeah, yeah. You're the one actually managing this mess. Yay! Can't wait to pick up pitchers every week. I mean, we joke, but I think. I think our pitching's fine. I think the team is fine.

It's not the team I'm going to be most excited. about, but it's not truly a disaster. I think it's fine. It would look a lot better if it had Max Fried at the top of the 15 staff. Yeah. Or anybody else. Like if it was like Cole Regans or somebody like. Oh, if only I knew you'd be so warm to write Reagan's then.

You all play scary. By the way, uh, don't have to take him for our last outfield spot, but I would like to have this guy on our team. The guy just moved to the top of the queue. Yeah, me too. I'm with you there as a bench pick. If we want to get him as the fifth outfielder, I think that's fine. I think he's going to play every day.

We're pretty close to it. But if I'd be fine with him as the fifth outfielder, but I think we can wait longer. And we have three Marlins on the same team. Hey, hey, hey, uh, I'm just asking. Look, I was saying when you were gone, Chris, I think the Marlins might be sneaky good this year.

Oh, yeah, Ramirez Stowers. Okay. Uh, I think they're, I think they've reached competence. I think I'd be surprised if it was more than like 85 wins, but. But last year, they really, they overachieved a lot, right? Like, it was a lot of, they won a lot of one-run games. I want to say they had a pretty good record in one-run games, yeah. But I'm pretty sure, though, like, Pythagorean record was probably.

But they were a lineup. They were still subs 500 overall. But, yeah, they outperformed by seven games. Yeah. That's just that clutch, baby. Clayton McCullough. Knows what he's doing. I mean, outside of never having a closer ever again.

I don't know why I'm like I'm I just started crossing off names randomly I haven't looked at this and like throw it out scy rounds all right vaughn and messick a couple of guys we had talked about drafting finally go off the board I I kind of think we should take the outfielder if he's in here yeah the one Chris wants no one you want but the one you want yeah I'm not opposed to taking both and having one on the bench but Kobe may as a good pick I should move him up in my rankings as well make sure he's in Clayton Beater. It could be the nationals closer. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of those. Like, I don't see who else it would be, but they didn't. Cole Henry, maybe. They didn't really.

Beater got zero saves last year, right? He might have got like one or two down the stretch, but I think they were mostly using Jose Ferrer, but they traded him. That's right. Ferrer was still there. Jose Ferrer. Yeah.

Forgot about Ferrer. By the way, I was looking this up. Frank, close your ears if you want. I was looking it up earlier because I was writing about O'Neill Cruz, and I was trying to see who the worst hitters against lefties were. And I think Josh Lowe over the past five seasons is one of the, like, three players with a lower Ex-WOBA against lefties than O'Neill Cruz.

That's like it. Which is pretty rough. So I just moved a couple guys to the top of the queue. how you feeling about those two. I think that makes sense. Yeah, they make sense. I think one of the relievers or one of the outfielers? Yeah, I'd rather an outfielder,

but the relievers make sense for sure. I don't, I mean, we said his name a few times already. I don't think we're missing much with Stanton because I think he's going to sit so often. The Yankees would basically set as much. It's just a question of can he be as good as he was last year? Because he was. No, he won't be that foot not.

And he hadn't been that good in like five years. It was like a 900 OPS. He won't be that good. Yeah, like he was on like 130 RBI pace last year. So even when he wasn't playing every day, we kept looking stupid because we were like, yeah, he's hitting really well, but he's not going to play every day.

And it was just like, well, I guess if he gets an RBI every game. I think he's probably going to sit out like once or twice a week. But I think he's still going to be like a 30, 35 home run pace guy. Obviously not expecting that. But in, I don't know, over like 100 games maybe. So. But he's one of these guys where, again, it's so late.

like if he gets hurt or he's not playing we could just drop him like it's not a big deal and well well we probably put the pressure on we should probably take him now that we don't have owen casey in the bag yeah that's annoying casey in the bag row is that's listening wasn't brilliant stanton starting outfield or junk carlo solo polo Late, late. Good job to Stanton. It's not good. John Carlo.

No, C. Poirlo. It's so bad. It's a thing. It's so bad. It's just because he struggles to say it so much every time. You know? It's like, how does it not roll off the tongue by now? It's happened about a hundred times.

Yeah. Probably more. More than that, yeah. Nope, I am filling in. Oh, it's a late. It's late, guys. What's up? I started filling in guys in my spreadsheet who are just in our queue, but haven't been drafted.

It has been a long day. And shout out to everyone who's still here hanging out. Over, over 650 people here. So we appreciate you. We have changed some away. We have chased some way. This is a real draft. It's, yeah, real draft.

Okay, so now that outfield is, all our backup outfield plans have been dashed. There's still one that's in the queue. Yeah, I just put it, I just put him there. Yeah, I wouldn't mind him up to the bench. Yeah. I feel like I've had, I feel like this outfield is no better than the 15 team ones I put together. But the infield, Scott, the infield. Well, that's what you need to look at.

Let's just say. Look at the pitching. Yeah, let's look at the pitching. Wow, Harrison's a nice pick. Yeah, that's a good one. I don't know. I don't know about anything. Tell us in the chat how you feel about our team.

No, no. Oh, they have been. Please stop telling us what you think about the team. Do the opposite of what spots it. Zebby. So apparently Jason. No, you're only allowed to say something mean about the team if you subscribe to the podcast or the YouTube channel.

So apparently Jason Martinez, the guy who runs roster resource, has decided that it's Mick Gable. It is Jason Martinez, by the way. Jason R.R. Martinez, like George R.R. Martin. Who is never going to finish the Game of Thrones books. Of course not. Should have Jason Martinez right in them. That dude's working hard. Well, anyway, he has decided Mick Abel over Zebby Matthews for the fifth spot.

And by spring performance, it makes sense. Zeb Matthews still has two options last. could happen yeah yep no he's he's been getting a lot of praise in camp too even I am going I'm going deep down the pitcher well right now just adding some some real scrubby names to the queue that's what we need I think the rest of the bench should probably be one more outfielder and the rest pitchers yes probably one of those a closer type yeah do we go We should probably go for the outfielder first, right?

We are on the clock. Oh. Yeah, let's go for the outfielder first. Uh, what round is this? 26. We want to think Carson Benj. Carson, binge. Yeah, I'm not sure there's another outfielder I like for a 12 teamer.

Cardinals reliever usually goes in round 20. We're in round 26. Just letting you know. I would prefer the outfielder. I would prefer the outfielder too. Okay. All right. Carson Benj, it is.

Come on down to the Carson Bench. Yeah, I think you guys kept saying bench in a way that didn't emphasize the and I was like, ooh. This is a, this is a dynasty team, right? We've got Justin Crawford. Oh, I've drafted more rookies than this. We've got Connor Griffin. It's just a great great titic team.

We only have three rookies. This isn't bad at all. Who has? I mean, it's bad. but not in that way. Are you sure binge will play? Somebody in the chat asks. No.

Absolutely not. We don't even feel it to be on the opening day roster. That is no longer the criteria in the pick 315 range. So Riley O'Brien was obviously the reliever we were talking about. Time will tell if he would have been the better pick. But all right, let's remind, because usually when I do the NFBC, it's 15 teamers, right? This is a 12 teamer. You don't, the desperation for saves isn't quite the same.

Yeah. I often wind up. We got two guys who should have a lot of saves. I never invest much in saves in a 12 team draft, and I often end up with too many saves because I keep winning the guys who emerge on the waiver wire. We're going to need you to run the waiver wire then, Scott. No. You can do it.

You can do it, Frank. I believe. in you. Greg Lathrop invited me to join one of his his main event team again. So maybe if he didn't, I'd be willing to run this team.

He keeps bringing me back even though I keep bringing him down. Snelling a good stash, but not likely to make the team, unfortunately. Yeah, I like the pig, but just didn't, doesn't fit our team.

Robbie? Yeah, right. Yeah. We're on a first name basis. Dr. Robbie. Do you guys want to take the top player in the queue? Who was Dr. Robbie? You haven't watched The Pit yet?

No, I haven't. Oh, let me introduce you. I've heard people talking good things about it. The Pit. I think of Robbie from New Girl. That actor kept showing up in everything. You fell in at the pit Yeah

Is that Parks and Rec? That's Parks and Rec, baby We all fell into the pit Are we gonna go for the other reliever we had in our queue Since we missed out on Riley O'Brien Or should we not since That would be the one I would go with you I mean there's also this guy

Yeah, none of these starting pitchers Look good enough to draft But we have four spots to fill They are all How is, man, I feel like I've been more enamored with the late round options than the 15 team. I think part of it is there have been basically for a league with no IL spots. There have pretty much been five draftable starting pitchers just off the board now, right?

Like Hunter Green, Shane Bieber, Bryce Miller, Logan Henderson, Quinn Priester are just all. Yeah, that's the top of the pitcher rankings right now. Those guys are pretty much in a no IL spot league. I'm not saying you can't draft them. Like Bryce Miller, he's dealing with an oblique injury, but his arms should be okay. His velocity looked fine when he pitched earlier in the spring. So it's just, you know, it might be four weeks,

but he should be okay. So I think he should be drafted, but Priester, Henderson, Bieber, Green, it's pretty hard to draft any of those guys in a no-IL spots league. We are up. What about Bieber? Like, he doesn't have a timetable,

but he has a heavy flat ground throwing day. Yeah. I don't think I would take the reliever we have at the top of the queue. Yeah. I think. All right. It's hard to argue much against anything at this point, unless I just think it's a total waste of a pig.

Kirby eights, come on down. Herbie eights. Who else is going to close for the angels? Not me. Let's see. What other boring starting pitchers could we take here? Think outside the box. Hmm

Grant Holmes Yeah we had him queued up I had him in the queue Uh Let's see I think So I was really high

On this guy last year He had a bad year But Not in a way I don't think he could bounce back from He's got a pretty good Supporting cast We've got decent

Strikeout numbers Yeah, I'm okay with that The other guy behind him Is more probably a worse strikeout pitcher but probably a better pitcher overall um i'm not terribly excited about him the third guy in the queue no no no i don't think that guy's good at all look good this spring that is i am i am completely out on i'm going to say the name so someone else takes him no taj bradley you can say it i like bradley i like bradley i like

Simian Woods Richardson, too. He just went. I like Taj Bradley more than Simian Woods Richardson. Though I did take Woods Richardson in a Sim League. There are plenty of things I can get excited about on the Minnesota Twins. You have named two pitchers who are not on that list for me. Let's look back at what Taj Bradley has done this spring. Last start, nine whiffs on 69 pitches, 82.1 average exit velocity.

start before that, four one hit innings, eight whiffs on 54 pitches. Five whiffs on his fastball, which was up at mile and a half miles per hour. The start before that, five strikeouts, no walks, and three innings at the Braves, seven whiffs on 42 pitches, like consistently very high whiff rates. Tosh Bradley is running here this spring. And I'm not saying it's a high probability play, but I'm saying we're in the 330 range. They do need strikeout upset, too. Yeah.

It's not the worst idea. I... Vote of confidence. I just, I think he is... I think he's Taiwan Walker. And I think that's pretty uninspiring, but if you guys want to... Draft Taiwan Walker.

Draft Taiwan Walker. That is fine. You can do that. but I won't be a party to it. He's playing this game under protest. First we conspired to draft Brandon Woodruff. Unbelievable. And now we're...

And we haven't even gotten into your... Your... Baseball Classic takes. Scott. We haven't even talked about... gotten into your world baseball classic takes. It's funny. I feel like I articulate my point of view

so much better when the camera isn't rolling than when it is. I'm not saying it to be mean or to kill anyone's buzz. That's just how I feel in my gut. It either makes me sad that so many Americans want to bring down America, that they want to bring shame upon America, even though you know in their heart of hearts, they're Americans too.

It just doesn't care. It just doesn't matter to them, that they're willing to do that for their own glorification, it feels like. Um, these guys weren't mostly picked for the team USA. Right. That's what I'm saying. So they're only playing for those other teams so that they get to play.

And that to me, okay, it's not about national pride then. It's about personal accomplishment. Um, I don't agree. I think it's cool. I, I, I don't think many my age and younger agree, but I don't get it. I, I cannot see your point of view. you the general you the people who are like oh yeah world baseball classic awesome play for whoever you want it doesn't really matter just as long as you get in the game we got we got to

make a picture scott all right um i'd be down for boring crisp asset i'd be down for tyler uh bryce miller excuse me um i'd be down for the ret louder uh flyer rat louder is probably the most interesting i think i think redetmer is like i don't know he's probably not good but he still has strikeout upside. And we need to. Chris, Chris Pooh, and Reed Debtmers.

That's the... No, I'd be fine with that, too. He might just be bad. He might just be terrible, but I don't know if he could be a starter. He just might not be able to. Um,

who is the, I'd be that. The Red Louder thing? Louder. Louder. Louder. I'm interested in louder. I know Nick Pollock is not.

Well, we, you gotta go quicker, but it's five seconds. Yeah, let's do louder. All right. That's like,

Starting his like five minute. I know. The clock's ticking that the countdown went red and you're like, so the thing about Rett Loutt Lout. You get, Rett Lout and in conclusion, Rett Louter is a land of contrast. It's like we got to make a decision. I think we've been seeing like I never liked Louter as a prospect. I thought he was overrated, all of that.

Clearly not. I didn't really get the appeal of Louter. But he has looked different this spring. He's throwing certain pitches harder. and you know when we last saw him he had a 117 er a and six starts i didn't believe it but he's a former top prospect a former seventh overall pick and he's missing bats this spring with some an arsenal that looks different than when we last saw him

and it's getting a lot of positive buzz and reds camp i am not beating the drum here for ret louder but when you're in the 3 30s you just take a stab and hope for the best. I think he's a worthy stab. Chris Bassett would have been as well. That was the guy I was saying I liked last year. And he had his worst season in a long time.

And he's very old, so maybe that's just it for him. But I didn't see a lot of, as it was playing out, it wasn't like, oh, well, this is why he's so bad. Clearly, like, there's not much left here. And then obviously he had a nice stint as a release. lever for the Blue Jays on their World Series run. And he was still very capable of, like, big performances last year. It was more about consistency, but I think, you know, pretty good home park, good supporting cash should be a good defense behind him.

I think Chris Bassett and Baltimore is a pretty good fit as a very boring, cheap option. I mean, boring, cheap option who, too, well, he's not far removed from an 186 strikeout season. and 16 wins. That was just 2023. Justin Sterner was someone we were considering, I think he makes the most sense as the athletics closer, but it's sort of like with Clayton Beater. Yeah.

Why was he not getting a look last year when, I mean, surely he made the most sense then, too. We are back up. Luis de la Cunia just went. He has a chance to be the starting center fielder for the White Sox apparently. Yeah, I saw that. We want to go Debtmer's here, take that stuff?

I'm down with Detmer's here. I didn't know if there's anyone else you guys just wanted to discuss, like Landon Group with the Giants or... I really don't have a lot of faith in Landon Roop. I think he's a one-pitch pitcher, and that pitch is... Like, he's not literally a one pitch pitcher, but he has one good pitch.

Yeah. And the problem is that pitch is a 74-mile-an-hour curveball. It's really hard to do that. Last two names, any interest in these KBO guys, Foster Griffin, Ryan Weiss? No, not over... Not over Reed-Dembers. Not over Debtmers.

I'm interested in Weiss, but not... I'd rather have Debtors. Do we want to consider some of the injury guys for our last pick? We are down to the last pick. I would have considered Bieber. Somebody beat us to it. I think Schwellenbach and who else would it be? Green's already gone, right?

He's still there. He's still there? Oh, there he is. He was so high up. It would be one of those things where, like, we draft him and then drop him, and then we can pick him up, like, a month before he comes back. because if he doesn't go drafted, you basically have to wait until he pitches.

Oh, until he debuts. Yeah. For the NFBC. So it just be, what? Basically, you can't pick up a guy that's coming, that hasn't pitched in a game this season

until they make their first start. So, right, right. So, yeah, if we wanted to, like,

we could draft Hunter Green just knowing we're going to drop him. And then we can repick him up, like, a month before he returned. Well, that somebody else does. Yeah.

just because like there's no way we're going to hold him for there's a way if we have tremendous injury luck and and Kyle Teal hasn't been drafted yet and Connor Griffin makes the team basically Kyle Teal should is is in a two catcher league he's absolutely worth stashing in a bench spot until yeah late April when he returns with Moreno and Ramirez and a no no I get it it doesn't it doesn't need to be us but I just no I agree with you though Oh, what about this guy?

Oh, what about... Yeah, the other guy could get outfield eligibility. What about this guy? I don't think it makes sense for our roster construction. I mean, if you were worried about power, the other guy could get outfield eligibility, and we're worried about outfield. We got John Carlos Stant.

I mean, he's got power. This is my choice. This is firmly my choice. I would still rather just take an upside pitcher, but... Who's left? that has that has upside that you genuinely I mean we've already we took louder to two rounds ago

who's left Zach Lattel baby that's not upside that's he's he could be usable for the whip boring upside I guess yeah Adrian Houser home starts there's also a good chance Zach Lattel is just not

usable because he's right on the fringe of that of usability I think this is one of the best bargains in the draft pool, and I think even though we don't see a spot for him in our lineup right now, I think one could absolutely open up. Life will find a way. We'll find a spot for him. A real answer, though, is what about Kyle Leahy?

Hunter Greens off the board, so we can't do that. Kyle Leahy with Cardinals? No, he's, I don't, there's no, I don't see any strikeout upside there. Yeah, I'm with Scott on that for the most part, I think. All right. He's had a good spring, but. You know what Scott's talking about, Chris? Don't say it.

I can. Only guy. Chris knows who I'm talking about. Yeah, I know who he's talking about. Chris is with me. I thought this guy. All right. Chris.

I'm mad at the team. I'm just going to drop him in week one. No, you can't. I mean, why would we have two U-Til only guys? It makes no sense. Because they're, Jordan Alvarez, A, Yordan Alvarez is very often injured. And B, Jordan Alvarez is very likely to pick up outfield eligibility.

They're both likely to get eligible. I mean, it's much more likely that the other one gains. It's likely that they both will eventually. I don't mean. I don't know that Yoron Alvarez will play 10 games in the alpha this year. It's not guaranteed. It's not guaranteed, but I think he will. The way they're talking, that's one way to get Paredes' bat in the lineup more often.

All right. I mean, this one's on you guys. If you want them, that's fine. I do. I mean, like, who else are you going to get excited about? I pick 355. I'm genuinely excited for this pick to the point. I'm going to be mad if he's taken in the next two.

You think Bryce Miller. That would be my other one. If we're going to pick like a player we're not planning on using right now, Bryce Miller would be my choice, but I'm fine with not taking him too. I think that. I mean, I really don't care. If Scott feels that strongly about it, we could do it.

We got him. Bryce Eldridge, baby. Come on down. I guess we have to take him now. There you go. Two util only bats. I think it makes more sense. because he could gain first base.

Yes, he can use him at corner. Like, we don't know. What's going to happen to our line? Like, I don't know. I think just as health, it just be, apart from anything else, just injury insurance for Jordan Alvarez. If Bryce Eldridge is what we think he can be, then, uh, you,

you find a place for him in your lineup is the way I view it is like. Our last pick is the most exciting of the whole draft. Yeah, like we drafted Connor Griffin. We should have drafted Cags. Probably should have drafted Cag. That was because our- You should have said it. I did.

I did with two seconds left. Yeah. On two separate occasions, Scott tries to make the case for a player with five seconds left. Because you guys assumed I was talking about Connor Griffin all along, would you have, would you have taken Cags instead? No, I have Griffin right to head. I do too, but we need an outfield or more. It's less of a need.

And we ended up getting Colson Montgomery for our bench. We could have had Kevin McGonigal, either one of those cheaply for middle infield. No, in hindsight, yes, I would rather have Cags and Connor Griffin there. I wonder if we still would have taken E and a half two rounds later. But. Fair point. Fair point.

I mean, because the back end of our outfield is shaky for sure. But the top three feel. Hopefully, Ornavarez is eligible there. And Bryce Eldridge is, uh, Did I say Bryce Eldridge twice? Hopefully Jordan Alvarez becomes eligible there. Draft complete. We did it, y'all.

Waka wasn't a bad pick. We should talk about him. It stopped for Eldridge. I wonder how many people thought I was talking about Moises by Esteros. Because he did not get drafted, right? But yeah, that's... He's util only and seems really likely to remain you until only is the problem. Yeah.

Kyle Teal didn't get drafted, did he? No. That seems like a mistake. Yeah. Not our mistake. Yeah. Somebody who didn't take two catchers relatively early. Yeah.

Should have fixed that. But we had two catchers by the 17th round. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Do we need to recap the team or do we just kind of? Yeah.

I know. Absolutely. We got to recap the team. Let's take it to seven hours. How long did you say it was going to be? Six, right? I said seven. Yeah.

Seven on the nose. Yeah. We got eight minutes. We're going to be here for like eight and a half hours. Yeah. Which I guess we could if you just want to record another podcast. I mean, I got a lot to say about the world baseball classic, you know. Oh, man.

You're going to, you got to rake me over the cold. I'm just saying. Not versus Chris. If I were good at something. Uh-huh. In my life. Yes. And I had the choice to represent in the international competition.

I would have a genuinely hard time deciding between Puerto Rico and, and the United States personally. Like, I've grown up in the United States, but the Puerto Rican side of my family and my identity is really important to me. And it would mean something, I think, special to represent Puerto Rico. And so there's part of that for me,

where it's like, there is something about, like, a lot of people have been making fun of Austin Wells, right? Because he is a, he is what we call a no sabo. He's a Latino who doesn't speak Spanish. and I think it's really beautiful to watch him like connecting with his roots and that that means a lot to me. So I think it's beautiful to watch people who like look, some of it does everyone have a close connection to the place that they're representing? Not necessarily. There are some things about the eligibility requirements for the World Baseball Classic that, yeah, I suppose you could argue that.

could be tightened up. But there is something as a person of a mixed background that it, the idea of representing Puerto Rico and international competition, or like my wife is from Venezuela, I get so excited watching the Venezuela games with her. The crowds are so fond, the players are so into it. I just, I love, I think the WBC is like, the business of baseball sucks so much sometimes, right? Like, we are all terrified about the lockout that that is coming at the end of this season. And that is just the ugly, necessary business of baseball. And the world baseball classic is just like so pure and lovely and beautiful. And I love that. I love that like, yes, they are technically playing for a prize pool, but I did the math. It comes out to like $60,000 per person,

which that's not nothing, especially if you're making the minimum or playing professionally in Cuba or something, but like, that's not going to change Aaron Judge's life, whether they win the World Baseball Classic or not, the money. But, like, he clearly wants to win, and it would be important to him. There have been multiple players. I think one of the Blue Jays guys said, I think Alejandro Kirk said something like, you know, I played in the World in the World Series last year. This means just as much. Like, I think there's something really beautiful about that. Like, the did you see Jose de Leon the the picture he posted

of him talking about when he went to the world baseball classic when he was 13 and how like getting to pitch for Puerto Rico this is his last chance probably like getting to do that meant so much and like ignited a lifelong passion for baseball and like that's the thing is that I love like I have such a lifelong love

of baseball and there's so many things about that that feel gross about loving baseball you know like just the business of it and everything that but like the world baseball classic is just like the most pure version of baseball for me so i i really just i get very into it i'm i'm a big fan no i mean lots of people are into it i just i still i don't know it it it it actually like if you consider yourself

American, like if you are team America, I just, for the stakes on the international stage to mean anything, then that means you can't be team whatever. I mean, you could have sympathies for other ones, but do you consider yourself American or don't you?

Because if you're competing against America, then you want to see America go down. And I just, I just have a hard time as somebody who has a love for America, even imagining putting myself in that position. Like, it actually hurts me to think about that. And so I have a hard time relating to it. I mean, I don't have, I'm not somebody who comes from a mixed background,

so maybe I just can't relate to it. But, like, it's not, it's not, it's not mean-spirited in any way. It's just, it makes my heart ache to know, oh, but I thought, I thought you were, you know, I thought you were on our side. Like, why do you want to go play for them? Yeah, but I think, like, I don't know, like, I get the, you know, that, like, I just, like, the amount of fun that Vinnie Pasquantino is having playing for Team Italy, I don't know if it would mean the same playing for Team USA. And part of that is probably just the novelty of it, right? Like, he wouldn't be doing espresso shooters in the dugout if he was on Team USA, Team USA.

I think part of it is like, it'd be nice if Team USA could have a little more fun. You know, like they're talking about it like they're going to war and it's like, calm down, brothers. Aaron Judge, you don't have to talk about like the sacrifices we make for our brothers. And they're all younger than me, obviously. But like, that is how the Olympics used to feel. It used to feel like it was a precursor to what a war, like if America, if America, dominated the Olympics that shows we would dominate in a war also you know like that's that's what

it felt like obviously it was a different time when I was a child that's more fun now I don't know I just can't get out of that mentality yeah I uh I think it's been really like all the the the team Chechia stuff with uh the dude becoming like a folk hero in Japan because he struck out show Hey Otani to the point where like he said he went to Japan last year and he was getting stopped on the street and like asked for autographs and pictures i think that's so cool like he just happened to strike out show he otani three years ago but because that means so much that like the japanese crowd has embraced the church team i love that's so cool that's not the same that that that is more in the spirit of what i think the world baseball classic is supposed to be though um somebody says

scott it's an exhibition relax it's fun that's how i treat it but not everybody did you just see the scandal that befell Mark DeRosa because he didn't know this arcane rule. And like, people aren't treating it as relaxed and fun. They're treating it. But that is like very much you had one job. I guess. But also we could laugh at all if it's an exhibition and it's meant to be fun. Yes, he should have known.

But we can laugh at all. It's not that big of a deal. Like people are arguing he should lose his job on MLB network. I mean, it's a pretty big screw up. Oh, I mean, I didn't know the rule. Well, yeah, but that's not your job. But it's not his job on MLB Network to know Arcane WBC rules either. Yeah, it kind of is.

Oh, my gosh. Okay, so it is very serious then. It's not just a fun exhibition. It's a little bit of both. I can't square that circle. I can't square that circle. I can't be saying things so definitively. Sometimes it depends.

Yeah. guys I think our team is just missing an ace I've been looking at it this whole time that's the only like our pitching staff would look would be perfect if we just like you keep saying freed Max Friede

yeah I mean Freed isn't like look that different if we had Max Freed yeah just because it would push everyone like Ladolo as your 4 as your 4 as your 5 like that you could sell yeah I'd feel I would get that but like i don't know i look at other pitching staffs our certainly isn't the worst the only option i think that could have changed it was like either freed in the fourth

or an sp in round three but we were never even discussing yeah no i i'm that wasn't even an option and you also have to consider like we have a really solid overall offensive team it's i think like there are a couple picks that i think we could have reconsidered i think mokey bets you know there were there were certainly better ways to get that shortstop position filled including just like the Connor Griffin like if if it was who'd we take when we take monkey bets fourth round yeah if it was Logan Gilbert at the top of our pitching staff and Connor Griffin and colson Montgomery has our short stops I think that probably works a little better overall um but if moogie bets bounces back to hit two 90 with

25 homers and 10 steals and 110 runs or 110 RBI, whatever it is. Like, I think we're going to feel pretty good about it anyway. So, yeah, I think the pitching staff is a little light on upside. But when, sorry to be a negative Nelly, but when four of the top 10 starting pitchers get hurt, other teams will be missing upside. Now, Framber could get hurt for us, which would put us in a bigger hole. Or Nick Lodolo has had trouble staying healthy.

Brandon Woodruff. Brandon Woodruff has had a lot of trouble staying healthy. But Chris Boobich is coming back from entry. Yes. So there are definitely ways for it to go wrong, but I don't think it's a disaster team. It's just drafting with three people is hard. With a 60-second clock is special. No, I'm not thrilled about the team.

I wouldn't I haven't compared it to all the other teams I presume I wouldn't consider it the favorite because on paper it needs more pitching but you don't know how the season is going to play out and obviously this is a league shallow enough that you're going to find some pretty good pitching off the waiver wire

I think we'd all agree that if we had gone either Max Fried or Cole Reagan's instead where did Cole Reagan's go? Yeah before it was before our next pick if we had gone with either one of them instead of bets And I might have pushed for Regans, even though I had freed ranked higher, just in the name of strikeouts.

But, you know, it's easy to say that. And then if Frank's scenario comes to pass where Cole Regens is heard after 60 innings, then it's like, well, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Doesn't matter that we took him there. I wonder if Regens was there in the fifth, we probably would have taken him over. Oh, absolutely. We were talking about that. We were talking about, we were prepared to have a de Grom and Reagan's debate.

and they went the last two picks before our fifth round. Yeah. So we just, we flew too close to the sun. There was never an obvious like SP to take, I felt like in any of the round. Like, whatever, you could say scooblin round one. But in round, like in round three when we took Alvarez, there was still like all that, all that same tier of. Yeah.

We're all there, so it didn't make sense. But like, you know, if Sailor, Gilbert or Hunter Brown falls one more pick, we probably take that pitcher in round four, I would imagine. Probably. Probably. Yeah, I think so. I mean, not to make excuses. It's a great offense.

Like, it's a fun start. That's what drafting is like. Yeah. You are limited by what everyone else does, and sometimes they just don't do what you need them to do. And obviously, you're trying to maximize the value of every pick. So you're anticipating what everyone else is going to do. Sometimes they just don't. Yeah.

And the fun of this is, I guess, like, the fun is that, We're trying to discuss who we want by not saying names so that I don't take them. So it's like, you know, obviously part of this is like an entertainment factor. Like I'm sure, you know, people will comment like, oh, what a dumb team. But like I think a lot of people had fun watching it. And that was, that's half the battle. Obviously, I want to win, but, you know, we'll see how. From a, from a content standpoint, having to talk through what you're doing, I think will hopefully help people.

and we can still compete. So yeah. I think it's okay. I wish the outfield was a little stronger for a team that's a little weak on pitching. Yeah. Bellinger Stowers, Hap, Crawford, Benj, with John Carlos Stan on the bench.

If you have cags in there and Hap as your four, that also feels a lot better. I do think you're on out of Arvarez getting outfit eligibility, eligibility makes the whole thing look a lot better because like if if that happens and bryce eldridge is as good as we think he is and he breaks out as a let's call it a poor man's nick kurtz 250 30 homers i think the team looks a lot better if you're not alvarez is someone we can stick in the outfield spot and start alongside brys eldridge yep that's what that's the whole thing feels a bit better hoping for that can come to pass sooner than later all right

When Kerry Strug landed that vault on the broken ankle, she did it for us. And it was incredibly moving. And that's, I wish, I wish international competition still felt like that. I mean, I thought the Olympics felt like that a lot. Yeah. What's her name? Allison Liu? Is that her name?

Yeah. Alyssa Lou. I know what you're talking about. That was, that was incredible. That was so moving. Watching her just dominate the world after retiring. That was so cool. So I still think it's like that.

WBC, not necessarily, but like, come on. That Otani Trout moment last time. That was awesome. That Aaron Adam Jones robbery of Mani Machado from the, was that the final in like 2013? That was the year America won. Yeah, that's like one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a baseball game. That was so much fun. It was so cool.

The Trey Turner Grand Slam against Puerto Rico last year. No, I think that was against Venezuela. Puerto Rico or Venezuela, one of them. Yeah, I think that was the game that Jose Al-Tuva got hit by the pitch. So I think he normally plays for Venezuela. Yeah, you're wrong about that. Yeah, yeah, Al-TUva's Venezuela. Somebody suggest take turns choosing next year.

That would be, I mean, there was one year. Madness. How do you get any cohesion? There was one year for pitcherless annual event. Or they've done it a couple times, I think. But one year I participated where you did a blind half draft. So you did not know who your teammate was. And you took turns picking with them.

Or no, I think you picked the first half and then someone else took over the second half of the team or. Oh. No, it was, it was. Probably every other pick. It was alternating rounds. And it was really fun because I had no idea who I was picking with. We did not talk about it. And I think we ended up not taking a pitcher for like 13 rounds because just neither one of us would blink.

So that was fun. So basically the team we wound up with today. Yeah. No, we didn't wait that long. Yeah. All right. We'll see. I just, gosh.

We need, we need. I just knew. Like, the way the draft went last year, I just knew that we were going to wait on pitch. It feels like it always winds up that way. All right. I think, I think we're about, we're about pooped out here. I think. I think so.

I think so. All right. Well, thank you to everybody for sticking around all day long. This was a lot. our second annual mock draft mega stream. We are going to wrap there. Or Vlad, Joe, Ariel, Scott, and Chris. I am Frank.

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