Fantasy Baseball Today - Our First 2022 H2H Points Mock Draft! Is Pitching Still Going Early? (12/16 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: December 16, 2021

Link to draft results- https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/fantasy-baseball-mock-draft-first-look-at-how-head-to-head-h2h-points-leagues-stack-up-for-2022/ Alright! We have our first H2H points mock draft of the offseason. First and foremost, is pitching still going early in this format (3:40)? ... Scott took Vladimir Guerrero in the first round while Frank took Gerrit Cole (7:25). ... When should you take Shohei Ohtani in a points league (12:38)? ... Frank and Scott both took a starting pitcher in round three (15:38). ... They did the same thing in round four (19:00)! ... Is Scott on Salvador Perez in 2022 (21:06)? ... Is Starling Marte undervalued in this format (29:29)? ... Back to pitching in the seventh round (35:53). ... We saw two great middle infielders go in round eight (37:00). ... On to round nine where Scott took Bryan Reynolds and Frank took Jonathan India (39:15). ... Anthony Rendon lasted until round 10 (40:30)!? ... What do the rest of our teams look like (48:00)? ... What is our favorite holiday song and movie (57:42)!? 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Subscribe to our YouTube channel: youtube.com/FantasyBaseballToday You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thursday and welcome into fantasy baseball today. December 16th, Frank Stamphill joined as always by Scott White. And there may be some confusion. Just why is Frank playing Kokomo on today's podcast? Well, it's Scott's last podcast of the year. He's taking time off for the holidays. So I wanted to go out with a bit of a bang. How's it going, Scottie?

I appreciate that, Frank. Yeah, it certainly feels like Friday for me. Yeah, it is Friday for me because I'm taking Friday off. So yeah, yeah, I like it. Kokomo, get, get this, get this party started. Yeah, must be nice, Scott. Must be nice. Just a heads up.

I'm a little bit banged up right now, so if I sound nasally or if I sniffle at all, if I start coughing up a long mid podcast and Scott starts like talking out of nowhere, then you know why. So I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. If you're playing head to head points leagues, then you've come to the right place. We just did our first head to head points mock of the off season, and we're going to recap all of it, hopefully, on today's pod. Towards the end, we will wrap up.

I should have let you know this beforehand, Scott, but I'm sure you'll be able to figure something out within the next hour or so. We're going to reveal our favorite holiday song and movie, which I believe we did last year, and unless something drastically changed, you're probably going to have the same answer, but let's refresh the people's memories, minds.

And then for those watching on YouTube, Scott is going to wrap a present at the end of this video. So we're going to sign off on the podcast side of things. It just wouldn't make for a good audio listening experience of Scott's wrapping a present. we'll wrap up the podcast towards the end, and then, Scott, you will take the reins, and you will help us all learn how to wrap a gift. This is a tutorial, by the way, a gift wrapping tutorial.

It's not just me going on there and speed wrapping to show off. I am here to share my knowledge and wisdom to the layman who feels insecure about wrapping a present, because frankly, I do too. The only reason I no longer feel insecure about wrapping. a present is because people have volunteered to me over the years, hey, you're good at this. So it's through a lot of trial and error and just self-flagellating, trying to get good at it. And yeah, I'll, I want to help the people out. So it's a tutorial.

I'm looking forward to it. I think I need the help. I send you some pictures of some presents that I wrap, Scott. I don't know. What would you say? What would you give me, scale one to 10? Well, the key to a well-wrapped gift in my mind is really the tightness of the fit of the paper and the sharpness of the creases. And the photo you sent me wasn't close enough for me to judge it.

But it didn't look like there were any huge, like puffy spots or any of the corners looked like they were jutting out in a strange way. So, you know, it certainly looked competent. All right. I may or may not have sent you that photo from that angle for a specific reason, but that's totally fine. All right, let's jump into this. Our first mock draft of the offseason, first head to head points mock of the off season. This is different than Roto and heads head categories, as we talked about on the Fantasy 101 pod, which we did last week.

Things that you'll see different in this draft from the other formats, starting pitchers and hitters with strong plate discipline are going to be on the rise in this draft. steel specialists tend to fall. They're only worth two fantasy points on CBS stolen bases, that is. So those players tend to fall down the draft board a little bit. Also a reminder that our rankings are not loaded into the CBS draft room yet. So if you see any wacky picks or hear any wacky picks, that may be the reason why.

I am going to post the draft results in the podcast and the YouTube description if you want to follow along throughout the course of the draft. Scott, let's jump right in. we are liars. Kind of. Our early lean at this point in the off season was that pitching is deep

and then we can wait on it. We can wait on pitching. There's the return of this mid-tier. It looks great. Now, head-to-head points is a different beast. We both chose three starting pitchers in the first four rounds

of the draft. So what do you have to say for yourself? Yeah, I mean, head-to-head points is a different beast. If you'll remember the way I was approaching this format last year, with the exception of a few early round hitters, my approach in this format ended up being

take a starting pitcher until all the good ones are gone. And I'm certainly not doing that anymore. But the fact of the matter is in this format and some other head-to-head formats that don't even use point scoring, you're only filling nine hitter spots as opposed to the, what is it, 14 in a traditional roto league. So, you know, and the fact that you don't really have to, balance those hitting stats.

You don't really have to pay any attention to steals. They're worth points, obviously, but they're not required in the way they are in five-by-five leagues. So you have a lot of flexibility as to what sort of hitters you use. It means you don't have to make it nearly the same priority as it is in Roto. Hitting is still a higher priority than last year. I would say the main thing that the dead-in to baseball did was create separation in the hitter ranks again

so that the truly elite ones are worth paying up for. But the next wave of hitters, after those elite ones are gone, after the round one and two hitters, it's deep. It's deep that pool. It can go, you know, it can run like six or seven rounds worth of hitters

that are pretty similar in terms of projected output. And then they run out and, you know, the back end of the draft is filled with, hitters probably aren't going to make an impact for you, which is also a change we're seeing from the past couple years where it seemed like there was good hitting available throughout the draft. So it's just, you know, you can't abandon the pursuit of pitching, particularly in this format. You still have to, you still want good pitching, but it's more plentiful. It's less high end overall. And it's not all that matters as compared to last year.

So, you know, you've got to find the right balance. All right. Well, just how aggressive was everybody on starting pitchers in this draft. There were 19 starting pitchers drafted in the first four rounds. I have the draft results from this same mock draft two years ago, not last year for some reason. I don't know. I'm on the CBS site for it.

And I have two years ago, but not last year. Anyway, there was 19 starting pitchers drafted in the first four rounds that year as well. So I guess we weren't really more aggressive. It's kind of in line with where things were a couple of years ago. go in the same exact format. So let's talk about our actual draft picks here. And Scott was second overall. I had the seventh overall pick in this draft.

And the first overall pick, no surprise, I guess in a points league, Juan Soto, great play discipline. You only start three outfielders, but he is amazing. We know that. So I think that makes plenty of sense. Scott, you took Vladimir Guerrero, and you did it pretty quickly as well. It took you just seven seconds to make that pick. Did you consider anybody else?

Maybe a Jose Ramirez? No, I didn't. I think this is a clear number one and two in this format, Soto and Guerrero. And I wouldn't mind if somebody took Guerrero over Soto. I do prefer Soto because the plate discipline, as good as Guerrero's is, the plate discipline for Soto is just on another level, and that's highly rewarded in this format. Really, I like the way ahead-to-head points draft begins better than Roto,

because the obvious top two players to take in Roto, where you do need to prioritize steals are Tatis and Acuna, right? But they both have such obvious injury concerns that, you know, people shy away from them at the start of round one. And so you end up with Trey Turner as the number one overall pick, which just feels like a lame number one overall pick in row. I understand why people do it, the scarcity of stolen bases and everything,

but it doesn't feel like he's the big standout player you want to use that pick on, while Soto and Guerrero in this format, I think they more clearly are. Yeah. And just to piggyback off what you said about Roto, I think that there's a very clear, like, top six or seven hitters where I wouldn't really mind if I got any of them. So if I wound up with a mid-round pick rather than an early pick,

I would be okay with that just because I would have an earlier second round pick. So that's more for Roto. But, okay, again, Scott took Vlad Guerrero here second overall. The only reason I brought up Jose Ramirez is because him and Vlad were pretty close in terms of points per game last year. Obviously, third base stinks. So I don't think it's crazy. I think, you know, Jose Ramirez is going to be a top half of the first round pick. No, I don't think it's crazy either.

In fact, you made me second guess myself. That's where there was a little hesitation before I answered your question. I'm trying to remind myself where I actually have Jose Ramirez in my overall rankings in this format. I have fourth. Okay. So I have Soto, Guerrero. Tatis, I sneak him in there still, and then Jose Ramirez fourth. And then, and what's surely a departure in head-to-head points leagues from the past couple years,

I don't have a pitcher. I don't see a starting pitcher worth taking until the fifth pick. All right. Well, let's get a little bit further into this draft. After you took Vlad, we see Trey Turner go, Fernando Tatis, Bryce Harper, I thought was a little bit interesting. And then the first starting pitcher off the board, Walker Bueller went to Phil Penebchik. which I thought was interesting. Now, I'm up at seven,

and I'm debating Garrett Cole versus Jose Ramirez for all the reasons that we just mentioned. Jose Ramirez is really awesome, regardless of format. Roto, obviously, he's going to hit Homer. He's going to steal bases, but for this format, he makes a lot of contact, too. And again, like, he does everything that you want. Maybe he doesn't walk as much as, like, other people,

but the contact definitely helps in this format. I wound up taking Garrett Cole because I was pretty confident that an elite hitter would make it back to me in the second round, and that's exactly what happened. So, Scott, what would you do if you were in my position? Seventh overall, Garrett Cole, Jose Ramirez available. Well, I mean, considering I said I have Jose Ramirez as my number four player in this format,

I would take Ramirez. I feel pretty good about the pitchers going in the round, two, three, four range. And I feel like, particularly if it's about as high end as Jose Ramirez, I feel like that's a clearer downgrade that you're accepting, passing up Ramirez for a pitcher when you could take Ramirez and the kind of pitcher you'd get in round two or three

could, you know, potentially be in the same league as Cole, especially given the issues we saw for Cole down the stretch last year. Yep. So I took Gary Cole and I wound up with Shohei Wattani in the second round as my first hitter off the board. Freddie Freeman was also there. Kyle Tucker, Rafael Devers.

I would have been fine with any of those guys personally. So I take Cole and Otani. Zach Wheeler was available with that second round pick. So which combo do you like better? Scott. Cole and Otani versus Jose Ramirez and Zach Wheeler in this format. Well, I have Ramirez ahead of Cole. And I have Wheeler ahead of Otani.

So I would prefer Ramirez and Wheeler. Ooh, all right. It's close. Yeah, yeah. It makes sense. And we'll talk about the Otani pick in just a little bit because drafting a utility bat as your only hitter through four rounds definitely makes for a very weird draft. So the rest of the first round, Jose Ramirez went eighth overall, then Jacob de Grom, Max Scherzer went, Bobichette, 11th. And then Mike Trout rounds out the first round.

I do think that Mike Trout should be a first round pick in this format, heads head points. The second round, Corbin Burns, Ronald Acuna, Muki Betts. Aaron Judge, maybe a touch early, but he is really good in this format as well. Brandon Woodruff went to RJ White, and then I wind up with Shohei Otani. And it's weird, Scott.

It's just weird, because it's essentially, you know, obviously we expect Otani to be really, really good as a hitter, but it's like drafting Nelson Cruz in round two because, and I just kind of felt

like it set me back for my position players later on in the draft when I was like chasing outfielders or, you know, worried about which third basement that I was going to get. When you take a utility bet this early,

it just kind of throws everything off. What do you think? Specifically in this format, too. Yeah, there are so few hitter spots to fill and some of the deeper positions, you can find really good targets late just because everybody's already filled out their lineup. So I'm thinking, like, short stops.

I don't remember how late Danesby Swanson went in this draft. Round 19. I was pretty happy to get Willie Adamondon's in round 13 but then seeing Swanson last until round 19 I got Adamazas as my utility player I imagine Swanson was drafted as utility player the point being this is the format where it's

I think hardest to fill that utility spot early because you know there's going to be value picks late that just don't fit into everyone else that don't fit into the other 12 lineups because lineups are so small and by the way I do think Otani in the middle of round two for this format is appropriate

I like him more in the middle of round one in a roto league where of course he contributes in stolen bases he contributes a lot in the counting stats but those peripherals bring him down a little bit in this format 3.6 head to head points per game last year which is

obviously good it's the same as Jose Altuve you know it's not much higher than like what Kyle Tucker did. Tucker also went, where did Tucker go at the end of round two? So,

you know, and we're thinking, Otani, maybe this is, that was the absolute peak of what he could deliver as a hitter and he takes maybe a small step back next year.

Yeah, I want to go for him in a head-to-head points league any earlier than you took him, 18th overall. I actually have him 19th overall in my rankings. Though,

you know, it's nice to know that if he ends up being like a stud on the mound and you haven't another great hitter to plug into your utility spot, you could still get some use from Motani that way. Yeah, no, that's a good point. It's just, it is weird. It just kind of throws everything off a little bit. Maybe in hindsight, I'd take like a Freddie Freeman or something, but yeah, I knew I was going to take a hitter once I took Garrett Cole in the first time. Yeah, I definitely would have taken Freeman. Freeman was the big

faller of the first two rounds. Yep. So Freddie Freeman wound up going pick 22 just before your second pick, Scott, and you actually went with two starting pitchers at picks 23 and 26. You took Shane Bieber and Julio Arias. Once you took Vlad, did you know that you were going to take two starting pitchers here at the two three turn? No, that wasn't something I scripted or anything. In fact, as Freeman was sliding, I was like, oh man, what if I get Freeman? And then I realized I'd already filled first base. Okay, I obviously can't do that. But if there was a hitter of If there was a hitter deserving of that pick, I would have been fine taking a hitter. It just so happened.

Shane Bieber was my highest ranked player. And there's a chance he's the best pitcher in baseball next year. Best pitcher in fantasy. That's certainly within the possibility for him. So I was pleased to get him with the second to last pick of round two. All right. Yeah. And then you also took Julio Ria.

So you have two starting pitchers there with your first three picks in the third round. I was actually eyeing Mani Machado myself. He went one pick before. my third round picks. So once that happened, I knew that I was going to take another starting pitcher. There wasn't, there wasn't really another hitter that I loved in this range. Eurton Alvarez, I like, I like Yard on Alvarez. Matt Olson, there's a few first basemen I like a little bit later on that I think maybe can provide similar numbers to Matt Olson. Marcus Semian, expecting to take a step back. Those were all hitters that went right after my third round pick. So when I see that happen,

I took Sandy Alcantra, who might just be an auto pick for me in round three this year, Scott, because we've done two mock drafts so far. I took Sandy Alcantra in the third round of both of them. I've done one real draft so far. That was a 15-team league. I took Sandy Al-Conter in the third round of that draft as well. So I don't know. I think I just really like Sandy Al-Contra.

He was tied for second in baseball with 23 quality starts. He goes deep into games. Strikeout rate is improving. I think there's even more upside for him. We just need more run support because nine wins. I mean, in this format, wins actually matter because you get like seven points per win. Well, wins better.

too. Yeah, of course. ...percent of the pitcher's production. Right, right. But we should theoretically get more wins out of him based on what he does when he's on the mound. Well, the innings Alcantra is going to get you are worth more in this format. You don't need him to have a crazy high strikeout rate

for him to be ace-like in this format. It's a top-10 pitcher either way, I think, but I actually like him a little more in this format than I do in Roto leagues. And I knew when I took Julio Aureas with the second pick of round three, going to take Sandy Alcantra. I just knew.

I knew you were the person who was about as high on him as I am. And I've kind of had some indecision about those two of my rankings, what order to put Arias and Alcantra and was kind of debating the two of them when that second pick of round three came up for me. I have Arias ahead of Alcantra,

really just because of supporting cast, that's kind of the tiebreaker between the two. But if they were both on the Dodgers, I would prefer Alcantra. Yeah, for sure. What I've noticed, too, I think the rest of the industry is going to be pretty high

on Alcantra as well. I saw someone on Twitter doing, it was like an NFBC slow draft and talking about how they took Alcantra, I think it was like 18th or 19th overall, which is just like, that's early. So I think he's going to be a pretty popular pick in 2022.

Coming back around in round four, I was eyeing Xander Bogartz, who actually performs, I would say a little bit better in the head-tead points format. of doubles, he walks a good amount, he makes contact. But the shortstop position is so deep. So I went back to starting pitcher.

So that's three starting pitchers, my first four picks. And I took Logan Webb. We talked about it a ton towards the end of the season. From July 27th on for Logan Webb, he made 14 starts. He went six plus innings in 12 of those. Decent strikeouts, more than decent. Over a strikeout per inning during that time. A ton of ground balls, over 61%.

It's a good park to pitch in. It's a good organization to pitch for. He's unproven, but I, I, I'm about it. I like Logan Webb quite a bit, especially in this format. I took him over Chris Sale, Scott, who you wound up taking as your fourth round pick? Who would you rather have Logan Webb or Chris Sale?

I rank Chris Sale higher, and it's looking like I may be one of the low guys on Logan Webb among the fantasy baseball rankers out there, which is kind of surprising how that's turned out, given how high I was on Logan Webb for so much of last year. year, but I think maybe other rankers aren't giving other pitchers enough credit compared to the guy who did it for half a season, roughly, last year. And look, I think it's legit for Logan Webb, too, but I don't know that he, I don't know that his best is really, really puts him ahead of these guys. And certainly, these other guys are more proven. So I'm not really sure why, why Logan Webb would, would,

deserve the preferential treatment there versus somebody like Chris Sale who of course has been an ace for a long time and I understand okay he just came back from Tommy John surgery last year he wasn't pitching particularly deep into games didn't look quite as crisp but we know generally how these returns from Tommy John's surgery go and we know he looked

enough like himself that I feel confident he's going to be all the way back this upcoming season confident enough to take him in round four here in a points league is my number three starting pitcher All right, on to round five. Scott takes his second hitter of the draft, and it is a catcher.

Salvador Perez, the first catcher off the board. And to my knowledge, this has never been a part of your draft strategy, Scott. Has it? Oh, never. I wouldn't say never, Frank. Oh, okay. I go way back.

Fantasy baseball and I go way back. That is true. There have been times when I have been very into drafting the high-end catcher. for the most part though it's it's not something i'm looking to do but it is round five we're not talking round three and i actually like doing it more in this format than i like doing it in a in a traditional roto league even with two catcher spots a traditional roto league meaning two catcher spots you know

so you're got to go deeper at that position it you might think it makes more sense to to go for the high-end catcher because of that but I like doing it more in this format because there are only nine line-up spots, you need as much impact as you can get from those lineup spots. There's fewer opportunities to gain an advantage over your opponent, and catcher is one of those opportunities you have to do that. I wouldn't have taken Salvador Perez in round three or even round four, but I get here in round five.

I only have the one hitter Vladimir Guerrero in round one. I know I want to take another hitter. I want it to be the most impactful hitter. I could possibly get. And a catcher who plays more than most, who's liable to hit twice as many home runs as virtually all of them, that certainly seems like a high-impact hitter to me. The alternative, the other one I was debating in this spot was Jose Al-Tuvae,

who ended up going four picks later. So it wouldn't have been too early for me to take Jose Al-Tuvae. But I felt like there were better fallback options at second base. there were still Catele Marte, Brandon Lau, Jorge Polanco out there at this point.

I ended up getting Cotel Marte four rounds later, or three rounds later, in round eight. So I'm happy with that Salvador Perez-Catel-Marte combination. And it actually worked out. The next catcher, J.T. Real Muto, also went in round eight. So we can do this comparison.

Would you rather have Salvador Perez and Cotel-Marte in rounds five and eight? Or would you rather have Jose Al-Tu-Ve and J-TUvay and J-T. Real Muto in rounds five and eight. And I would rather have Perez and Marte, so I think that, I think that worked out for me. That's close. That is pretty close. I think I lean your side as well.

I can tell Marte, the guy just needs to say healthy. I think, you know, when he plays, he's still really, really good for this format. Another one that makes a good amount of contact, can hit home runs. Obviously, score some runs, some, not a lot, but near the top of the Diamondbacks order. And I love Altovae. I think he's underrated

in that format. I just pointed out a couple of minutes ago, He averages many head-to-head points per game last year as Shohei Otani. You know, I said that to kind of denigrate Otani, but the other hand is, wow, look at how good a year Al-Tuve had. I definitely prefer Al-2Vete-Marte, but I think part of it is just, I don't think any catcher is really close to Salvador Perez right now. I mean, yeah, it was a career season he just had.

It's probably not going to top his own record for home runs hit by a catcher last year. But he was by far the best catcher in fantasy in 20, 2020 as well. And J.T. Arumuto seems like he's starting to decline a bit and has fallen back in the pack more toward the pack more. So, you know, Salvador Perez might be the only catcher that I'm willing to pay up for this season. So, Scott, are you saying that you were denigrating one of my picks? That's kind of messed up, man. This is the holiday season. I mean, it's just, let's be about I know. And you're loving and caring and no, no, no. You took Otani at the right spot. I was just,

you know, I was saying why he wasn't worth a first-round pick in this format. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm just best with you. I think the point, the point that I agree with most when it comes to Salvador Perez, like, he's awesome. There's no doubt about it. 48 homers. He led baseball with 121 RBI. The plate appearances, the playing time that he gives you, especially in this format,

665 plate appearances. The next closest was J.T. Romuto with 537. That is a huge disparity. And now I would bet on that, probably taking a little bit of step back for Salvador Perez. They've got some young prospects coming. We spoke with the Welsh about that. So maybe, maybe. But he played more DH than ever last year.

Played 161 games. They were all as a catcher, but from the catcher position in fantasy, that is massive. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think he's because they seem so willing to play him at DH now, often, they value his bat that much, and they should.

I mean, he's just at 48 home runs. I think that's actually going to prolong his usefulness in fantasy, because he's over 30 now. I mean, he's at an age where catchers normally start to decline, but I think he's going to transition more and more into that DH role, especially as MJ Melendez comes up, and Salvador Perez is still an elite defender now. So it's not like they're anxious to move him off catcher full time.

But now that they've opened that door to him deaching part time, that actually makes me more hopeful for him having a long and productive career. All right. Well, my fifth round pick, I was debating Jose Altuvae and Paul Goldschman. and the decision was made for me. Altuve went one pick before me, so I wound up taking Goldie. I thought that there was a bit of a tier drop at first base.

Tier drop for those people, whatever. Forget it. Anyway, Jose Abraeu was the next first basement taken, and he went in round seven. So two rounds later than I took Goldschmidt. Again, like, Abraeu is a good player, but his best format, it's kind of weird to say that Roto's his best format

because he doesn't seal bases, but he doesn't walk very much, and that obviously affects him here and head-to-head points. So, Goldschmidt, I think I'm back. Like, I'm buying the Renaissance. The guy was amazing last year. And he walks a ton.

He makes a lot of contact. Homer's handful of steals. Obviously, like, he was amazing. So, like, I'm totally cool taking Paul Goldschmidt in the fifth round. Scott, what do you think about? Is this the right range that he should go right around, like Jose L Tuvae around five? Yeah, I think so. I don't, I don't know if that's how it's actually going to play out in AVP.

And maybe you have that handy, Frank. I get the sense that. that the general fantasy baseball, community people who play fantasy baseball, aren't really taking Paul Goldschmidt's 20-21 at face value. But if you do, this is absolutely the right place to draft. I mean, I, for the most part, do.

Goldschmidt's early ADP, according to the NFBC, there have now been 49 drafts that have taken place. Paul Goldschmidt is pick 52. So that is in a 12-team league in early fifth-round pick. Al-Tuve is pick a 75.

So not as much love there for Altuve. I get that sense for Altufe too. And obviously that's strictly five by five scoring Roto score at those NFBC ADP results. So I wonder if Altuve got elevated because of the format or if the person who drafted him

just really likes them like I do. Yep. Yeah, I think that makes a ton of sense. Let's take a quick break when we return. We'll finish the end of round five. We'll go into round six and beyond here on Fantasy Baseball today. All right, so let's jump back in.

A lot of outfielder's went between my round five and around six picks, and that included Whitmerfield. Obviously, he has second base eligibility as well. Cedric Mullins, George Springer, Nick Castellanos, and Teasca Hernandez. Springer was one that hurt because he is so great in head-to-head points. Great play discipline. He walks a lot.

Going to lead off for the Blue Jays. He's going to just score a ton of runs and see a lot of played appearances, as long as he could stay healthy. So that one hurt. But much like Gulchmidt and first base, I saw a tier drop coming here again, Scott. So after all those outfielders go, I'm like, I'm going to take Starling Marte. To me, he's like the last of this elite tier.

And he's usually not as good in points. I get that. But this past year, he averaged 3.8 fantasy points per game. I am betting on that, taking a step back. There's no doubt about that. But, I mean, he was really, really good. So in the sixth round, I have absolutely no issue with Starling Marte. Oh, no.

I think he's somebody who could get downgraded unfairly in this format because, you know, The top base dealer last year by far not a huge power source that your brain just automatically goes to. Okay, this is a rhodo specialist here, Starling Marte. But in terms of head-to-head points per game last year, 3.77 is what he averaged. The only outfielder's with more head-to-head points per game last year than Starling Marte were Fernando Tatis, Juan Soto, and Juan Soto, Bryce Harper, and Ronald Acuna. It's only four. He was fifth and head-to-head points per game.

Well, Byron Buxton was too, but obviously he was injured for a good chunk of the season. Bottom line is Starling Marte was an absolute stud in this format and well worth the sixth-round pick, if not sooner. You took them about where I have him ranked. What's interesting here, let's see, we're in round six. the outfielder's going in this range. It's kind of right before a tier drop, you know?

And I would have liked to get in on that because because Outfield tends to thin out pretty quickly. I'd say other than third base, excluding catcher obviously, because it's its own weird thing. Other than third base outfield is probably the position that thins out the quickest. but because I drafted only two hitters with my first five picks

and one of those hitters was a catcher, I had needs everywhere and everything was starting to run out. So, you know, that's a distinction from the last couple years too, where if you do go heavy on pitching early and we both went relatively heavy, you're going to have some weak spots in your lineup, even a nine-man lineup like we have in this format. And for me, it's the outfield.

And for you, it's the outfield. I was going to say, like, when we reveal the rest of our teams later on, both of our outfields are pretty damn bad. Like, I'm not even going to sugarcoat it. I don't like my outfield at all, but maybe that just goes back to not taking Otani as early as I did. But hindsight, 2020. We'll see what happens.

On to Scott, a six-round pick. You took Wander Franco at pick 71, and I just felt it, Scott. Like, my heart just, like, shattered a little bit because Wander is... I can't believe it. Yeah, Wander is somebody who I want in every points league heading out. at 2022. Sure, maybe you downgrade him a little bit in Roto. You don't know how many home runs he's going to hit. You don't know how many bases he's going to steal. Fine. One thing you know,

the guy has a ridiculous eye at the plate. There is no doubt about that. He is advanced beyond his years. He's going to walk a lot. He's going to make a ton of contact. He's going to be one of the top three batters in a really good lineup with the raise. He's going to get those plate appearances. He's going to score a lot of runs. For all those reasons, you should love Wander Franco in this format heading into 2022. Now, Scott, I wanted to ask you, Francisco Lindor went just two picks earlier. Who would you have taken if Lindor was available?

Easily, Franco. Oh, okay. Easily. I have Franco as my seventh shortstop in this format. Lendor is my 12th shortstop in this format. Head-to-head points per game last year. You mentioned the play discipline already. Even with the modest home run total Franco delivered

in his half-season of it bats, 3.32 head-to-head points per game versus Lindor's 2.82. And of course, it was a downseason for Lindor. You could argue, well, he's going to bounce back. And I have some doubts about that, but to some extent, he probably will. I don't know that Lindor's had many seasons

where he's averaged more than 3.32 headhead points per game. And that's a lot. That's a lot of points. And it already makes Franco, just if he keeps doing what he's been doing, it already makes him pretty close. to a stud in this format and obviously there's lots of room

for him to improve. So yeah, I agree with you that well I'm perfectly fine drafting Franco, Wonder Franco is a starter in any format. I feel like you're giving up less by doing it in this format. You're taking less of a risk because he already earns so much just with the plate

discipline. And given the fervor over him, I'm surprised particularly in this format that he was able to last to the end of round six. I never imagined I'd be able to get him there. And I probably won't be able to again. Yeah, it hurt because I knew that there was a chance that he would go.

There were a few things at play, the fact that I felt like I needed an outfielder at that point. Shortstop is still pretty deep and I'm actually okay with who I wound up with. But obviously, I do like Wanderfranco quite a bit. Francisco Indoor, just to pull this up quickly, Scott. In 2019, he averaged 3.7 fantasy points per game. But he was pretty amazing that year. 284 batting average, 32 homers, 20, I think it was 22 steals.

Yeah, 22 steals. So I don't know that anyone's expecting Lindoror to get back to that level, but just in case you're wondering. So through six rounds, Scott, we each have three hitters and three starting pitchers. I have Garrett Cole,

San Diego Contra, Logan Webb. I have Otani, Paul Goldschmidt, Starling Marte. And then for you, you have Bieber, Arias, Chris Sale. You have Vladimir Guerrero, Salvador Perez, and Wander Franco. And I don't know.

I think we're, I think I like mine a little bit more. It would make sense because I drafted my team. But I think, I think we're pretty even like just in general. Yeah. Just, you know, whatever, putting it up against each other. Let's get into round seven here. And we're back to pitching, Scott. You took Frankie Montas.

I obviously took Joe Mosgrove because I have to take Joe Mosgrove. He's my guy. I do have questions about him. But as an SP4, I'm fine with that. Some great hitters also went in this round. Eloy Jimenez, Tim Anderson, Carlos Correa, J.D. Martinez. Scott, did you regret? taking a starting pitcher here. Obviously, you had the shortstop, but maybe you should have taken

like an E-Loyer or J.D. Martinez. I don't think so. Pitcher was thinning out quicker at this point, and I already had three, but, you know, I want to have a deep pitching staff than it can account for a lot going wrong. And the kind of hitters that are going here, they're big names, but this is not the ideal format for them. They're generally poor plate discipline guys in the case of Brau, Tim Anderson, and Aloi Jimenez, all three. All white socks, huh? All three are poor plate discipline guys

and maybe not going to differentiate themselves from what comes after by as much as you think. All right, round eight. Look, a bunch of short stops go off the board. I mention some of those names, Tim Anderson, Carlos Correa. Jazz Chisholm went in round eight,

which, again, is probably not the preferred format for his services, his skill set. So I took Jorge Polanco in round eight, and I'm fine with it. Another one where I think he excels in this format, makes a lot of contact. He's going to hit in the top half his lineup. Probably regresses a little bit.

I don't know that we expect him to hit, whatever, 30 plus homers with 15 steals again, whatever he did, but I would still bet on him being really, really good in this format. Scott, you double-tap hitters at the 8-9 turn. You take Cattel Marte and Brian Reynolds. So that gives you your first second, basement and your outfield one.

At the time, I guess you could have planned on this being your first two outfielders, but it probably just didn't work out that way later on in the draft. Yeah, I expected Cattelmarte would slot in at second base for me, but I was open to drafting another second basement if things played out

that way. Obviously, I had some, you know, I was behind in building my outfield, so it seemed possible that I could move him there. You took... So remember, I passed up Jose Altovae and round five and get Catel Marte here in round eight. I would have been fine with Jorge Polanco too.

You took Jorge Polanco, what was it, five picks earlier? Yep. So I was really holding my breath that Catel Marte would make it to me at that point. And fortunately, he did. I love Brian Reynolds too. I think he's, you know, I don't have him ranked as an outfield one in this format or in any format, but I think he is, it's certainly plausible he finishes as that. And I'm happy to get him in round nine.

I don't know that. But this is about the point here where the hitting pool really begins to drop off. So this is kind of my last stud hitter, Brian Reynolds in round nine, which, look, we made it to round nine. So it's, you know, there's still a lot of them, but there's not an infinite supply of them. like maybe people remember from the last couple years. Five picks later, after you took Reynolds, I took Jonathan India. He's my starting second baseman. And I'll point out that Bobby Witt, in case people are wondering,

he went in this round as well. He went pick 99. His early ADP is 93 overall. So this range seems like it makes sense. Again, a lot of people drafting over at the NFBC, that's for 5x5 roto. Right. He's expected to steal.

So probably there's more pitchers ahead of him in this draft. It seemed a little early for me for Bobby Witt, but you understand a player with that kind of upside. I think round nine is laid enough into a draft that you can take that kind of gamble, but it seemed a little early to me. Yeah, Jonathan India, love in this format. He averaged three fantasy points per game

that includes his slow starts of the season. But from May 13th on, he had a 388 OBP and 872 OPS, 89 runs scored in 124 games. Guy walks a lot, he could steal a few bags, And even if the Reds lineup takes a bit of a hit, I still think he's going to score a lot of runs. So very excited about Jonathan Indy. I think really in any format, but I like him a lot here as well.

It's a shame he's not still third base eligible because I think that we'd be talking them up even more in that case. Gosh, we need third basements. And speaking of that position, we go into round 10 where for some reason I thought that Chris Bryant was still available. He was not. Anthony Rendon was available. Those were the two third basemen. I had in the back of my mind. I'm like, all right, I want to get one of these two because those are like the end of a tier at the position. And then it's like everybody else, which we've talked about a lot so far this offseason.

It was only Rendon that was available. I saw Justin Turner go three picks before me and I'm sweating. That's right. Real nerves in a mid-December head-to-head points mock draft. What is wrong with me? R.J. White takes Tyler O'Neill. One pick ahead of me. I wind up taking Anthony Rendon, which elicited an... Ah, Frank, in the chat room. Go ahead, Scotty. That was the biggest groaner of the draft for me. Groner in terms of... Yeah, I wanted that.

I wanted Anthony Rendon there in round 10 as well. It was right before a drop in tier. You mentioned he went after Justin Turner. I mean, that... I have Rendon ahead of Turner. I think you do too, right? Yeah, yeah. To me, it's more like Rendon versus Alex Bregman.

Which of those two would you prefer? And Bregman went way back in round five. So for Rendon to still be there in round 10. And look, I do think there's more risk with Rendon than Bregman, but I think they excelled a lot of the same things. I think their upside is comparable. Five rounds different like that. Definitely give me Rendon.

And I knew at that point, after you took Rendon six picks before I was geared up to, that I was just going to have to slum it at third base, just going to have to slum it, just going to have to take. the best of whatever's left and and cross my fingers it works out. So that's what I did.

So I guess that means I'm not just weak in the outfield. I'm weak at third base as well. Perhaps even weaker at third base than the outfield. The thing about the outfield is like particularly in a three outfielder league. I don't mind being weak in the outfield.

Yeah. I mean, they'll be waver... I'd rather not be. But there are just there are so many outfielders. Yeah. Right? so many players who play outfield in the majors

that it's very unlikely the outfield you begin the year with is the outfield you finish the year with. That's a position where you can be sure that there are going to be big fines on the waiver wire. And some people, that some people just aren't going to be able to take advantage of

because they invested so much in their outfield. So I never worry about outfield too much and a head-to-head, three outfielder head-to-head points league. Yeah, the point you made about the waiver wire is exactly what I was going to say is, of all the positions in a head-to-head points league, finding an outfielder that either breaks out or that you can just stream on a weekly basis based on like matchups or whoever is playing in Colorado, it's much easier to find that than it is to find, I don't know, starting pitcher or a catcher that makes a difference

or maybe even an elite level third baseman. So yeah, I agree with you about outfield. In the podcast Listeners League last year, which is this format, I was the highest scoring team. I didn't make the playoffs for some reason, but I was the highest scoring team. And my outfield most of the year was guys like Robbie Grossman, Mark Kana, Hunter Renfro, like basically just free pickups. And, you know, I managed to put together the high scoring team. All right. Well, Scott, you missed out on Anthony Rendon, which means at the 10-11 turn,

you took two more starting pitchers that gave you Pablo Lopez and, Chris Bassett, which I did find a little bit curious because they gave you six starting pitchers through your first 11 picks and we only start five starting pitchers. So I know you like to have depth at the position. But I don't know, Scotty. I don't think that I would have done the same thing. It's not necessarily a goal of mine to get six starting pitchers before I fill out my hitting roster, you know, but this, we were clearly at a point now where there's no hitter worth paying up for. So if there are pitchers left worth paying up for, okay, I'll take the pitcher.

I say that even knowing Nelson Cruz was out there still, he hadn't gone off the board yet. And I hadn't, and to be honest, I didn't notice at this point that he hadn't gone off the board yet. And I still had my utility spot open at that point. And maybe, maybe if I could do it over, I would have taken Nelson Cruz with my round 11 pick instead of Chris Bassett, because that might have been the last hitter worth paying up for. But I don't think that's crystal clear because he was pretty awful with the raise, and of course is very old.

And we may be seeing the beginning of the end for Nelson Cruz. Even when, you know, even apart from struggling with the raise down the stretch, he was in and out of the lineup a lot, and you're setting your lineup for a full week, and you only have nine hitter spots. And I had them in the couple head-to-head points weeks last year and was frustrated how often I had to pick up somebody else to use in my utility spot. And as we were saying at the start of the show,

I ended up getting Willie Adomis as my utility player a couple rounds late. There's a lot of hitters who slide that you like leaving that spot open for. So I don't think it's for sure something I'd redo, take Cruz instead of Chris Bassett here. But leaving Cruz out of it, just broad strategy. There are some hit pitchers still worth paying up for.

For the most part, there are no hitters worth paying up for. give me the pitcher no matter how many I have. Yeah, so you took Willie Adamas at the end of round 12. The starting pitchers that went right after that, Sonny Gray, Marcus Stroman, Sean Mania, would you rather have Nelson Cruz and one of those pitchers? Or Chris Bassett and Willie Adamas? I would rather have Chris Bassett and Willie Adomas.

Yeah. I will point, like, about Willie Adamas, and I've seen this in other drafts too. I think he's going way too late. I know the shortstop position is deep, but man, if you wanted to wait and just snatch up Willie Adamas,

I know in Roto, he's not going to give you steals, maybe a handful of anything, but he was really, really good with Milwaukee. I mean, he could be what Jorge Belanka was last year. Yeah, yeah, no, that's not crazy. So I do, my early lean is just, if you need to fall back at the shortstop position, I like Willie Adamas quite a bit.

All right, Scott, so we mentioned our outfield turned out pretty bad. Round 11, looking to take John Carlos Staten. He went a couple of picks before me. So instead I took Wilson Contreras. I thought he was one of the last, I'm not going to say elite catchers, but the top six that you actually feel pretty good about. You know, after that, there's like Cabot Ruiz and Mitch Garver and those names are fine, but I have a little bit more fate still in Wilson Contreras. So I was okay taking him there. So my outfield, I took my outfieler two in

in round 12. It was Joey Gallo. No, I don't feel good about it. He strikes out. a ton, which is very bad in this format. It helps out a little bit that he walks so much. Obviously, he hits home runs. He was terrible, terrible with the Yankees last year. There's no doubt about that. I have to imagine he's going to bounce back just a little bit, at least. So he's my second outfieler. I thought like this is a good place to just kind of dive into the rest of our team, Scott, and go through our lineups and just kind of talk it out. So would you like to go first or do you want me to continue talking about my crappy outfield? I'll go first. That's fine. Sure. You catch your breath.

Yep. So my team ended up looking like this. Salvador Perez is my catcher. Obviously, doesn't get any better there. Vladimir Guerrero is my first baseman. Obviously, doesn't get any better there. Cattel Marte is my second baseman. Happy about that. 2019, he was the top second baseman in this format, and he looked great when he was healthy last year. Third base, clearly a struggle. I ended up with Yohan Moncada in round 17 and Matt Chapman in round 19. basically waited till the end of the draft. Those are, that both came within the last five picks.

And I'm just going to hope for a bounce back from one of them. And I hate, you know, rosters are so, rosters are so small in this format that I, you know, it's going to be frustrating having to devote two to questionable third baseman. But I think there's a high probability at least one of them bounces back to their, their previous standard. So Moncada and Chapman duke in it out of third base for me. Waterfroco is my shortstop.

No complaints there. Outfield. Outfield, I have Brian Reynolds. Okay, we would all be pretty happy with that. Chris Taylor and Hunter Renfro. You know, I know it doesn't compare to some other teams outfields, but I think statistically it might. Chris Taylor is going to have less competition than ever

on a Dodgers team that's lost a lot. it's obviously you know still a good spot to bat in so I think he's perfectly fine as a starting player even on a head-to-head points team and you mentioned Giancarlo Stanton

in round 11 some people listening may have thought oh Scott you said there were no hitters worth paying up for what about John Carlos Stan big name had a bounce back season last year 2.96 head-to-head points per game is what Stan ended up averaging for the Yankees last year Hunter Renfro 2.96

exactly the same, head-to-head points per game. And he's going to the Brewers. He's going to that small park. So I think Renfro's the sort of discount outfielder, you know, the sort of outfield freebie

you can get in this three outfielder pitching heavy format. So that's my outfield. I got Willie Adomis as my utility player. We talked about that. My pitching staff ended up being where do I start? Shane Bieber.

Julio Arias, Chris Sale, Frankie Montas, Pablo Lopez, and then on my bench, Chris Bassett, who we talked about, Aaron Savale, Big Innings Eater,

like that for this format, Patrick Sandoval, who, you know, I like his upside too. So I ended up getting eight pitchers from my top 55 that I've referred to on past podcasts

is kind of the, kind of how deep that middle class goes. It goes to 55. in my rankings and I'd like to get maybe about seven pitchers through my top 55. I ended up getting eight, so really happy with the pitching. My relievers, Calquantrol, he was one of three Sparps who were drafted. The other two being Ranger Suarez, who went way early and Luis Severino. Calquantrol I got in round 15, I believe, and Scott Barlow, who's hopefully the Royals

closer to begin the year, but in a format where every team can only start two relievers, I'm not that worried about who's filling that spot at the beginning of the year. year, I'll, you know, I'll eventually land someone usable there. Yeah. If it's not him. I think overall, I like this team, Scott. I like this team that you put together. And once again, just to highlight how much deeper starting pitcher is, you mentioned

seven of your top 55. Last year, I think that was eight. I got eight. Yeah. So, but I wanted seven. I got eight. So normally you want to aim for seven of your top 55. Last year, I think it was six of your top 30.

That's what you wanted? Something like that? Five of your top three. I can't remember exactly. Maybe it was six of my top 35, something like that. So just to put that in perspective of how we feel about pitching this year, it is deeper than we've seen in years past. Definitely compared to last year.

Deeper and stands out less at the top than it used to. All right. I'm going to run through my lineup here, Scottie. And I'm going to just say at the top here, I don't think that I have many standouts on offense, but I think that I am solid just across the board here. So at catcher, I have Wilson Contreras. At first base, I have Paul Goldschmidt.

Second base, I have Jonathan India. Third base, I have Anthony Rendon, shortstop, Jorge Polanco, Outfield, Starling Marte, Joey Gallo, and Trent Grisham. See what we could get from Trent Grisham. I know he was pretty bad in the second half. But if he works his way back into the top of that, Padre's lineup, he walks, scores runs. I think he's an interesting bounce backhanded.

I think I got him in like, I don't know, round 13 or 14, so I'll take a shot on him there. And then my best hitter, obviously, is Shohei Otani, who is going to be stuck in my utility all season, unfortunately. And then on the bench, I grabbed two outfielders here. We don't really know what's going to have with Marcelo Zuna. I know it's like a weird thing to like even talk about him for fantasy and draft him. But if he returns to the Braves,

that is someone who I think has still quite a bit of upside at the position. And then Robbie Grossman, who was really good this past year, went 2020. He walks quite a bit. Yeah, take a few shots on some outfielders there. And then for the pitching staff, I've got Garrett Cole, Sandy Alcantara, Logan Webb, Joe Musgrove, that's the top four. My fifth starting pitcher was Logan Gilbert, so two Logans in my pitching staff. So definitely keep that in mind when you're drafting.

And then my relief pitchers, I got Luis Severino, one of the other sparse that you mentioned. And Craig Kimball, who I do expect to be traded at some point in the offseason, maybe the Phillies, maybe the Red Sox, Padres could use a closer. I think he's going to get traded somewhere and he's going to wind up being the closer for someone. On the bench here, I have Alex Cobb, Bailey Ober, and Wascari-Noah. So not the same high-end that you have on your bench, Scott,

but guys that I do think have quite a bit of upside in terms of starting pitcher. I was a little disappointed not to get Cobb myself. All right. Well, there you go. Let us know in the comments on YouTube. Who had a better team? Me or Scotty, you can tweet at us as well.

At Rodo underscore Frank at CBS, Scott White. And I do just quickly want to compare the teams that we just mentioned to, a team that only drafted one starting pitcher in the first 10 rounds. So just to try and compare and contrast and show you what it's like when you go pitching heavy versus waiting on pitching in this format. And the team that I'm going to use here is Chris Mitchell, who I believe had the third overall picking the draft, either the third or fourth. He had Yasmani Grandal, Jose Abraeu, Ozzie Albies, Raphael Devers, Francisco Lindorre, Fernando Tatis in the outfield, Randy

Rosarana, Kyle Schwarber, Anthony Rizzo at Utility. Loaded lineup. No doubt about it. This lineup is amazing. The pitching staff, Jose Barrios, Mike Clevenger, Nathan Avaldi, John Gray, Jose Orquite, and then at relief pitcher, two of the best closers, I would say, in fantasy. Josh Hader and Kenley Jansen. Kenley Jansen's still on sign, so we'll see where he winds up, but I have no doubt. He will wind up somewhere as a team's closer. Madison Bumgrenor, Chris Flex, and Alston Gombor here. on the bench. So obviously the pitching staff is a little bit different here, Scott,

but the lineup is loaded. So what do you think? Well, I think the pitching staff doesn't look as bad as you might think it would, given how little he invested in it. And there is another team that didn't invest much in starting pitcher either, and that pitching staff looks a lot worse. So credit to Chris Mitchell for making efficient use of those pitcher picks. it's not a great pitching staff, obviously. It's going to get outshined by whatever most of his opponents are running out there. And I feel like the lineup should look better

than it does for the amount of investment in it. I don't know, Scott. This is like a really good lineup. Yeah, I mean, Francisco Lendor, I expect to be one of the worst in a one shortstop, you know, no middle infielder league, one of the worst uses of the shortstop spot.

I don't think Anthony Rizzo has much of anything left. Sure. I'm starting him in his utility spot. But, you know, Randy Arosa Rana, Kyle Schwerber. You know, I like Schwerber a lot, but especially Eroserena. I don't think they're going to really set his outfield apart in any way. I think they're going to be about three points per game, which is what most starting outfielders are going to be in this format. Tatis is obviously awesome.

Abraeu, again, this isn't really his format. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think his, I don't, to whatever degree his hitter crop outshines our hitter crop and I'm not sure it clearly does.

I think our pitching, our pitchers far exceed his. So, this team could work. You know, last year I wouldn't have given this team a chance with where I was at starting pitching.

I think it does have a chance, but I like the way we built our teams better. All right. Tough crowd for Scott White. but hey, that's why we like heads to head points, right? I mean, I would say we're both pretty good at it, right? You were the top point score in our league. I think I made the playoffs.

I definitely did not win the championship in the podcast league. I could probably look it up, but it's going to take too much time. So shout out to whoever wanted it. It wasn't me. Scott, the holiday season is here. You're taking off the final two weeks. Well deserved, obviously enjoy the time with your family. But with that, I've got to find out.

I think I remember, I know. know what song you said last year was your favorite. I would know it if I heard it. I just don't remember the name of it. So remind us, Sky, your favorite holiday song, your favorite holiday movie. What do you like to, uh, what do you like to splurge on this time of year? I remember. My favorite song, it was Deck the Halls from Mannheim Steamroller. Right. I'm big to Manheim Steamroller Christmas stuff in general. That's exactly what it was. I don't really like like Christmas rock, you know? Christmas.

Jingle Bell Rock? Come on, Scotty. It's always corny. I prefer like really traditional, I might even go so far as to say religious Christmas music, which I'm not saying Manhattan Steamrollers. It's mostly instrumental

and it's kind of like out there instrumental. But my point is like what most people would probably say is their favorite Christmas song, I would probably say is corny. Which doesn't mean I can't enjoy it at all, but you know, it's probably not going to be my go-to.

So that's where I am on music. Am I given my movie pick or are you doing music? Well, I'll just quickly give my song because it's probably one that you hate, Scotty, based on everything that you just said. Last Christmas by Wham. I love that song. And I get it. The lyrics are dumb.

We're not listening to the lyrics. I like the way that the music just sounds. I like the way that song sounds. It's also a great music video if you've never seen it. That might be my least favorite Christmas song, Frank. I'm going to be honest with you. Which I think makes sense, right? Like, just if you know Scotty, if you know me, like music taste, sure.

It wouldn't surprise me if we're just complete opposites there. So the music video I was going to mention, if you like feathery 80s hair, my gosh, George Michael in that music video, the hair is on point. So I love the song Last Christmas. Christmas and Hollis is another really good one. You know, run DMC. I like it quite a bit. All right, Scott. Movie, favorite movie.

Christmas movie, I got to go home alone. Home alone. All right. Gotta go home alone. Can't go wrong. It's classic. I could watch it any time of year. All right.

For me, no surprise. I've talked about it quite a bit. Just Friends with Ryan Reynolds. I love it. I love that one too. It just... That is a frank level comedy

that also appeals to me. 100%. And again, like if you've listened to us all year long, you know that it's like every Adam Sandler movie from like the 90s and the 2000s. I've seen way too many times. And just stupid movies like that.

Who is Paulie Shore, I've just seen a bunch of his movies. Why? I don't know. It's just these like cheesy comedy movies. Just friends. Love it. Watch it every year on Thanksgiving with the family to like kick off the holidays.

So definitely that one. I do love me some eight crazy nights as well. No surprise. Adam Sandler. Animated. Love it. Definitely going to watch it this weekend. So all right, Scott.

That's it. 2021 is in the books. Scott won't be here for the next two weeks. We're still going to have the podcast twice per week. I have a bunch of guests booked. So it's going to be a lot of fun. No doubt about it. We're doing like early.

ADP gifts next week using NFBC ADP. So we're going to have some fun. But Scott, what do you think, right? Like our first year together, our first full year together, 2021. How'd we do? Great. I didn't even, it feels like I've been with you forever. Who's that Adam Azer guy? Who is that guy? I don't know. I'm going to try to get him on in January because he was talking a big game. I think him and Nando Defino want to come on together. So, oh boy. And we were going to play a game. Like I presented name to Adam and he tells me whether it's actually a baseball player or not because that's like how far out of the baseball world he is. We're going to wrap up here on the podcast side of things.

Once again, we're going to stick around on YouTube to watch Scott's tutorial on gift wrapping. So if you're listening right now on the podcast and you want to learn, just come find us. YouTube.com slash fantasy baseball today, but that'll do it for Scott. I have Frank. Thank you all for listening and watching Fantasy Baseball today. I will be back again on Tuesday. Bye-bye.