Fantasy Baseball Today - The All One-Hit Wonder Fantasy Team! (04/28 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: April 28, 2020

Everybody loves a good one-hit wonder, unless of course they ruined your Fantasy Baseball season! Who are some players from 2019 who might turn out to be one-hit wonders (2:00)? ... As we start to dive into our analysis of the biggest one-hit wonders since 2000, who made the cut at catcher and first base (8:23)? They're a little more recent than you think! ... Next up we have the middle infield with second base and shortstop (15:55). Find out who Scott tried to make nicknames for back in college. ... The hot corner is ruled by a familiar face (29.25). Can anybody overtake the great Chase Headley? ... Given so many outfielders, this position was a bit tougher to narrow down (32:00). Does Darin Erstad make the cut? ... As we finally make our way to pitching, this is where chaos ensues (39:43). Scott makes great points, Chris tries to create loopholes, and Adam feels bad for Scott! ... Email us at [e-mail]. 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @CBSFantasyBB, @AdamAizer, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Download our printable Draft Kit from CBSSports.com/draftkit! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. I drive, center field, at the wall, grand slam. This is magnificent. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy becomes reality. Now here's Frank, Scott, Chris, and Adam.

Ice, Ice Baby. Who let the dogs out? Take on me. Who doesn't love one hit? Wonders. Welcome to fantasy baseball today. Frank Adam, Chris and Scott here. Team Fax is back today. And we're making a team of the best one-hit wonders in fantasy baseball since the 2000 season. Chris, our resident music man, what's your favorite one-hit wonder song, Chris? So I guess it depends on how you define the term because like technically Jimmy Hendricks

Purple Hayes was his only hit. But it's probably not fair to refer to Jimmy as a one hit wonder. No. I asked the wrong person. Chris is going to do this with the baseball players too. You'll see. So I would say my favorite one hit wonder, Stacey's mom is a great song. I don't know if the message has aged all that well, but, you know, just shouts to Fountains of Wayne, R.I.P. to Adam Schlesinger.

Great band, great song. also wrote a lot of the music for the TV show Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, which is one of my favorite shows. So I'll go with Stacy's mom. Stacey's mom is a great one. I cannot dispute that. Adam is back. Adam, give me a player from 2019

who might turn out to be a one-hit wonder in fantasy baseball. I'm going to say No Rain by Blind Melon. Oh, that's a great song. That is a great song. The best one hit wonder. Oh, that is a really good pool. I'm writing that down. Great video, great song.

Yeah. Oh. Is it one of those songs that I know, but I just don't know because, like, based on the name? All right. So I got to go back and listen to that one. No rain. Yeah. It's one of the best songs.

It's one of the best songs in the 90s. And one year for Halloween, I wanted to be the lead singer of Blind Melon, my roommate, would have been the B-girl, but we couldn't really pull it off. You should have been the B-girl. I could have been the B-girl. Sure, there's always time. I'm going to go with Tommy Edmund. Tommy Edmund as my one-hit wonder.

I just kind of feel like, I kind of feel like we felt very positively about Harrison Bader this time last year. Edmund, 25, not old, but kind of a late bloomer maybe. And, yeah, ground ball hitter, not a lot of power. It was pretty bad for his first 45 games, was outstanding for his last 47 games. It's not like he was consistent all year. Yeah, I'm just not.

Yeah, I'm not saying I'm avoiding Tommy Edmund, but I wouldn't be surprised if he stinks. Well, I'm happy you brought him up. We just deep dove. We did a deep dive. We deep dove. We dove deep dive on Tommy Edmund yesterday. And I kind of came to the conclusion that I feel like he's a bit overvalued over the past month going for the same price as players like Carlos Correa and Kevin Bigio, according to NFBC auction value. So that was something that stood out to me. Scott is here as well. Scott, who's a one-hift, wonder, a potential one-hit wonder from last season for fantasy baseball coming up this year. Maybe someone that you might be avoiding. No, you know, I'm high on most of the potential one-hit wonders. But what I'm not so high on is Eduardo Rodriguez for a few different reasons.

But it all comes down to I just don't think he's as good as he finished last year. I just don't think he's really a stand-out pitcher. So, yeah, he'd be my choice. Yeah, Eduardo Rodriguez finally managed to stay healthy last year And as a result was able to He was more of an accumulator than anything Like the second half numbers on the surface look good But when you dive a little bit deeper

His second half underlying metrics were very similar to his first half It just seems like he got a little bit lucky there So I'm with you I'm not really in on Eduardo Rodriguez For this upcoming season Chris I've given the other two guys an opportunity to give us a player that might be a one-hit wonder from last season. Do you have anyone in mind? The obvious one that comes to mind is Liam Hendricks. We have basically an 80-inning sample of him being

an above-average major league pitcher. He was pretty mediocre to bad for pretty much his entire career before that. Yes, the velocity did jump. And if he sustains that velocity gain, there is every reason to believe that he can repeat or at least be a good closer but velocity games don't always stick especially for guys in their 30s especially for guys with that kind of track record so I think he's a pretty obvious call

he's someone that I haven't drafted at all and I haven't really ever considered it I'll also throw Jorge Saler out there I don't feel as strongly about that but it was such an increase in or such a decrease in strikeout rate that it just, it feels,

you know, like we saw with John Carlos Stanton in 2017 where he couldn't sustain those gains that he made. Jorge Salar is someone who, you know, I've always liked the potential, but he hasn't really been fantasy relevant ever before last season. Oof.

Them seems like we're picking on Scott here. Them some fighting words with Scott. Well, when I'm so far in on all the potential one hit wonders, that's bound to happen. But I do think it's interesting that Chris is using John Carlo Stanton as an example of Jorge Soler's downside. And I have used John Carlo Stanton as an example of Jorge Saler's upside. We're living in a topsy-turvy world, clearly.

Well, I mean, Frank, you have Jorge Saler ranked higher than John Carlos Stanton, right? That is correct. Here we go. No, I'm not going to let it happen. We got too much ground to cover you today. All I will say is yes. The best case scenario could look something like John Carlos Stanton's 2017 season.

However, for as much of an outlier as that was for John Carlos Stanton, it's not even close to the level of outlier last season was for Jorge Salaire. Jorge Salaer has never been able to stay healthy, has never hit in the majors. Yeah, I have no. Much shorter career so far. It's not really a fair. He's not that. It's not that short of a career.

He was, like, last year was his fourth year in the majors. He got 1,800 played appearances. What do you think? Right, because he hasn't been able to stay healthy and he hasn't been good enough to be an everyday player. Like, that stuff that matters. He was pretty, he was solid in 2018. Solid. 123 OPS plus 820 OPS, you know.

It wasn't that much. But no, this is, what, what? I'm defending. We got to go, man. We got a lot of stuff to talk about here. If a fantasy baseball today podcast happens and Chris doesn't mention John Carlos Stanton, did it really happen? Come on, guys.

Let's be real. He's been in the majors for six years. No more, no more John Carlos Stanton. We've got to move on as Scott mentioned. I do want to remind everyone that we will be doing a live podcast video stream on the fantasy baseball today Facebook page tomorrow night. Well, depending on when you're listening to this, We're recording on Tuesday.

We'll be doing that Wednesday night, April 29th at 8 p.m. So be sure to join us. Grab your dinner, bring a beer, whatever you want to do, get away from the kids, the wife, whatever. Come join us and watch Fantasy Baseball today. We'll have that on our Facebook page. Just quickly, before we get into the all-one-hit wonder team, just shout out to Trey Mancini.

He wrote an article for the Players Tribune earlier today that was released. will likely miss the entire 2020 season as he undergoes chemotherapy for stage three colon cancer. So I know a lot of people have been sending in questions regarding Trey Mancini's fantasy value. Obviously, this goes beyond fantasy baseball. So we're wishing well for Trey Mancini and his entire family and hope that he bounces back strong and returns back to the 2019 form eventually, but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen here in 2020. So good luck to Trey Mancini. one hit wonder team.

So what I wanted to do with this today was every Tuesday we put together a team, we have a draft, something of random, and it seems very relevant because even to this day, there are going to be players that played last season that are going to turn out to be one hit wonders.

And the same thing, the past couple of seasons, and we're going to talk about some of those players. So we're going to create a head-to-head points roster, one catcher, three outfielders, one utility, five starting pitchers, two relief pitchers. basically just going to jump around here. Another one-hit wonder, by the way, jump around. And we'll figure out our position. So let's start off at catcher. Can I just make a few points

off the top here? Yep. Four points I want to make. If I may. So this is beginning and the year. We have time for four points, Mr. Hurry Along. Well, at least this is on the subject of the podcast. You couldn't have cut it down to three. John Carlos Stanton one hit wonder, by the way. 2000. This wasn't by design, but it just so happens to be the year I started playing fantasy baseball. And I think I've played longer than any of us. So it kind of feels like an episode of This is Your Life regarding my fantasy baseball life. This exercise was done largely top of mind because it's really hard to run some kind of search that picks out one hit wonders. Chris and I were trying yesterday using ERA Plus, I think, for and OPS plus for hitters. And the reason we focused on those two stats was because during the course of the past 20 years, statistical expectations have changed. And not just all in one direction.

It's gone back and forth as to what's considered a good season for both a pitcher and a hitter. So raw numbers don't necessarily work as well for this exercise as ones that gauge how someone's production would translate from ear to air like OPS plus and ERA plus would. And then the last point is that part of the difficulty with this exercise is distinguishing the true one-hit wonders from just guys who had a really good career season that stands out in our memory more than the rest of his career did. And there's going to be some debate there for a lot of these players who come up. because I think maybe the first name that comes to mind,

just to use an example from pre-2000, Brady Anderson, right, stands out as a one-hit wonder. And yet he's a three-time All-Star. He had a pretty good career overall. So does he qualify truly as a one-hit wonder or not? I think it's debatable, but I'm trying to focus on the guys who legitimately just had that one season of relevance

and then disappeared as quickly as they appeared. Yeah, and that's part of the discussion that we'll just kind of go around. a little round table talk here about whether or not that player qualifies as a one-hit wonder. So let's start off at the catcher position. Some interesting names here, the ones that we kind of narrowed it down to, and we can talk this out. Paul Luduka for the Dodgers in 2001, 25 home runs, 917 OPS, never had more than 13 homers or higher than a 783 OPS again.

Carlos Ruiz for the Phillies in 2012, 325 batting average, a 935 OPS. Seville for the Tigers in 2011, kind of resurfaced again in 2017, but he did hit in that 2011 season, 295, 19 home runs. He finished as the catcher won in fantasy baseball that season. Devin Mazzaraco, another one here, just hasn't been able to stay healthy, poor guy, but it seemed like we were always kind of chasing that 2014 season, 25 homers and 80 ribbies from the catcher position. He finishes the fourth best catcher in 2014. So guys, what do you think? Round table discussion?

So I think you've got, I think it's two choices. I think it's either Devin Mazzaraco or Paula Duka, which is weird because both are, I think, more high-profile players than either of the other two guys. And Paula Dukin, particular, was a, was kind of an everyday catcher for a pretty long time, but a lot of it was coasting on that one season. and he's also a pretty notorious player for his involvement in the Mitchell report.

But, man, Devin Mazzaraco is one that really sticks with me. That 2014 season, I probably kept chasing it until at least 2017. Yeah, I feel like Paul Leduca of this group, he's the most famous example. Like if just recalling, somebody who's played fantasy baseball since 2000 was just recalling names of catchers who came out of nowhere and just had one great season. Laducaa might be the first one they think of. I know because it's the first one I thought of. But he was

a four-time All-Star. I mean, like you said, he kind of coasted on that one season, but it's not like he was, it's not like he was a nobody in fantasy after that. He was just kind of generic catcher guy when Messaraco completely disappeared, not through any fault of his own.

But I'd lean more toward Messerocco. I might even rank a Vila over Laduca if we're just doing, you know, know, if we're just talking flash in the pan, because he was kind of Messaraco after Messer, or I guess before Messeraco, three years before. Adam?

So I thought Avila would be the answer. Maybe the fact that Avila had a pretty good 2017 season, as you mentioned, eliminates him. But I guess if you just want to be technical, Paula Duca has a 746 career OPS, Alex Avila 744. So they both had very similar careers as hitters. And Leduc's year was better.

than Avila's, but not that much better. I don't know. They have pretty much a tie for me. Mesoraco was injury-related. He could have been good, but he never could stay healthy, whereas these guys were just not good hitters, and they had one great year.

So that's why I would not go Mezorah. That's an angle that I didn't know we were going to consider, but it's fair. It's fair. You can make your own criteria. So you're kind of saying, you're kind of introducing this what-if scenario. for Messeraco and saying, well, it's not his fault.

Kind of. Let me give you four points about my criteria. Yeah, I guess so, Scott. Yeah. What was more surprising? I don't think it was a huge shock that Mesoeroa had a big year, right? No, he was the top catcher prospect. I mean, we were, it was more surprising from Avila.

It was more surprising from Laducah. Yeah, that's kind of why I leaned toward them. So who would you take, Frank? I think we're, I think as a group we're leaning Mesa Raco, but you might have, you might create a tie here if you're not. I was leaning Mesa Raco as well. It's,

it was injury related, but it was literally just one season. So Leduca did have some other years where he kind of sustained some level of success. It wasn't really great. Vila had, you know, that 2017, which was solid. I would probably lean Mezerocco. So I'm going to pencil him in as our catcher there. One hit, wonder,

Devin Miseraco. I can see I'm not needed on this show anymore. Oh, no, no. Adam, you're actually leading our first base analysis, so surprise to you. Great, great. So first base, you know, I mentioned here at the top that, you know, some players that we're going to talk about are, you know, as recent as two years ago. And Jesus Aguilar. I mean, the book is not written on Jesus Aguilar yet, but 2018, he was the seventh best first baseman, 35 homers, 108 ribbies. And last year came crashing down to Earth. reminds himself with the Miami Marlins.

You don't know if he's going to play every day. Hazerz Aguilar seems like a pretty fair bet. There's also Nick Johnson, his 2006 season, scored 100 runs. He had 17% walk rate that year. Another one just couldn't stay healthy. Rubio de Razzo for the Oakland A's 2004. Admittedly, some of these players are like before my time,

so you guys can chime in. Carlos Pena, 2007, hit 282 with 46 home runs. He had some other big seasons, but the batting average for him really stood out that year. And then some other names. Mike Jacobs, Justin Smoke, you know, still a chance here with the Brewers. Logan Morrison, hit 38 home runs in 2017. Chris Cala Bello.

How about that name? He only played 101 games in 2015, but hit 321. Adam, first base. What are you thinking? I don't know. This is impossible. This is really hard. I

well did Jesus I'm going to go Jesus Aguilar I think that's my choice too yeah it's between him and Justin Smoke

for me but Smoke at least had these kind of like partial seasons where he was okayish when Jesus Aguilar

that one season which had me fold by the way it was a top 10 first basement for me heading into last year it just was

it's just such an isolated event some of the more historic examples like a Ruby El Dorazo Nick Johnson like there it was kind of similar to smoke where there were hints leading up to the big season

and they just finally had that one season where they put it all together. I don't think they're bad choices but Logan Morrison would be in that same vein. I think the context of this exercise, Jesus Aguilar seems like the best choice assuming of course that he doesn't

he doesn't go on to big things from here. Yeah, and for Chris Colabello, I just don't think he had enough longevity for that season. He only played 101 games. Definitely an interesting name. I'm happy you brought that name up. But Chris, Jesus Aguilar, now a member of your Miami Marlins.

Does he get your vote as the one-hit wonder at first base? For me, I would actually go with Logan Morrison. He was such a big prospect. He was so hyped. you know, was kind of viewed as part of the future for the Marlins and just, man, him and him and Jeremy Hermita are two guys for the Marlins who just will be forever seared into my brain because of the disappointment that they brought. But, you know, all of a sudden at 29 years old, eight years into his career, he has this massive 38 homer season. I would say Logan Morrison.

Well, the book isn't written yet on Logan Morrison. Didn't he say in the offseason, like, during spring training, that he could still perform like an all-star level player if he's just given the opportunity? So, hey, he said a lot of things. Logan Morrison famously said many things throughout his career. Don't write him off yet, Chris. It sounds like...

Yeah, I'm good with it. Scott's in on Aguilar. It sounds like Adams in on Aguilar. I'm going to make it final. I'm going to go with Jesus Aguilar. Someone will burn me last year, too. I had him in a few places. Just, gosh, it was awful.

It didn't work out for Haysu's Hagelar. Second base. Now, this is one where, I don't know, we might have to lean on the expertise of Scott here because Junior Spivey of the Arizona Diamondbacks in 2002 hit 301 with 103 runs scored. I think I was in like seventh grade at that point. Freddie Sanchez, Pittsburgh Pirates, 2006,

hit 344 with 85 runs scored. Scott, who's getting the nod here? Junior Spivey v. Freddie Sanchez. Worth noting that Freddie Sanchez also had 53 doubles that year he was 344. We're not seeing a lot of home runs from this group. And I do want to mention Mark Loretta came up for that year he had with the Padres, though he had a pretty good year right next to that. So we took him off the list.

For me, it's Junior Spivey. and I was probably the only one playing fantasy baseball in 2002, but I have to tell you, I was obsessed with Junior Spivey when he came up and was putting up these kind of numbers. I was like trying to come up with nicknames for him, thinking about making T-shirts that said like poison spivey or something like that.

I was interviewing random classmates about how they felt about different nicknames. I was thinking for Junior Spivey. and he just it went nowhere after that like it was such it seemed like such a multifaceted skill set he had 34 doubles 16 homers 11 steals 103 runs hit 301

like it was hard to find weaknesses in that skill set and he had this really cool name and he was performing well for my fantasy team and then it just it just never went anywhere so I'm going with junior spy V Junior Spybee

I wanted to nominate someone else if that's okay I also got another nominee. Let's go. Let's hear him. Just thinking about how much we bought into it. Well, some people did. I don't even remember if I did or not. Chris Taylor. How about Chris Taylor? That was an interesting one. I saw the name last night and I thought about adding

Chris Taylor. But yeah, I don't think that's crazy. I mean, he was another one of those like Max Muncie type experimental players that the Dodgers just took on and kind of like randomly made really good. And his 2017 hit 288, 850 OPS, 21 home runs. and 17 steals. I don't think that that's a bad one. That's a fair right. But he's following up the 21 homer season with the 17 homer season.

Right. Right. He just felt like he was a huge difference maker. Yeah. In 2000, what was it, 17? And then 18 and 19, he's just been like a guy that you pretty much can't use

because it doesn't play every day. And what about Rootnet O'Dore? Did he have? No, he's had multiple seasons. Yeah, I guess he did, 15 and 16. But one similar to Rootnet O'Dore. How about Jerks and ProFars, 2018 season.

He did hit 20 homers last year and the year before, but he was barely, I don't even think he was fantasy relevant last year outside of 15. That's like what I was saying about Taylor. Yeah. Yeah. I guess part of it was that neither in their moment seemed particularly high end. They both seemed definitely starter worthy.

And then, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think they're as good as the nominations we have here personally. Are those your actual votes, or did you just want to talk about that? No, I just wanted to throw them out there, and I want to throw one more out there since we're doing this fantasy style. Bill Miller did play Bill Miller, Mueller, it's Miller, Miller. Miller. Miller.

I have down for third base, but that's- 10 games. He was fantasy, he was second base eligible in 2003 when he hit 326 with a 938 OPS, 19 homers, 85 RBI, nearly doubled his career high in home runs. more than 23, 23 more RBI than any other season. We're going to get to him at third base. Why are you jumping ahead here? Because he might not win it at third base. We could lock him in.

This is what Chris does. He tries to manipulate position. Well, it's not manipulating eligibility. He was eligible at second base. I am game for talking about Bill Miller, but there's a time and a place. There's a better third basement. There is a better third basement, but he's my utility. player.

Nah. And I think Junior Spive is a better choice here anyway. So there. All right, Scott, I'm going to make you the deciding factor

because you were way more into fantasy baseball than I think any of us in the year 2002. So I trust that your belief in Junior Spivey is higher than any of the Freddie Sanchez, the Chris Taylor's,

the Bill Millers, who we're going to get to later on as well. Shortstop. We've got a few more names here at Shortstop. Bill Hall, Milwaukee Brewers, 2006, hit 35 home runs that season, never hit more than 18 after that.

Jason Bartlett, I mean, this is, I think Jason Bartlett takes the cake for me. I mean, 2009, 14 home runs, 30 steals, a 320 batting average. He had some other seasons where, like, he stole some bases, but never won where he put it all together like that. Zach Cozart, in 2017, 297 batting average, 24 home runs. He was an all-star. Everth Cabrera, 2013 with the Padres, had 37 steals in just 95 games.

So if you picked him up in a roto league, definitely a difference maker. And then Marvin Gonzalez with the Houston Astros just a couple of seasons ago, 2017, hit 303 with 23 home runs. Chris, what do you think about this group?

Bill Hall, 2006, Jason Bartlett, Zach Cozart, Everth Cabrera, Marvin Gonzalez. I'm upset. that Scott left out what I think is the best pick for shortstop. Oh, did I? We talked about him.

Rich Rillia. Oh, sorry. His 2001 season, he led the majors and hits, hit 37 home runs, drove in 97. I was going, he scored 114 runs and hit 324. He was a fantasy stud that year. And I was going through those early 2000s Dodgers teams were just incredibly weird. And they had so many guys whose careers were just, bolstered by hitting near Barry Bonds,

his gravitational pull was so great that he won Jeff Kent an MVP. And yeah, Richard really is 2001. I think that's the shortstop season. Long career, 1,600 career hits, but 941 OPS that year, never had a full season higher than 800 otherwise. Yeah, but look what he did in his first year,

1,400 OPS. In nine games. It's one of those, like, it was clearly Rich Aurelia's best season by far. And it put him in rare company for players of any kind who've hit 30 plus home runs in that stadium since it opened. But Richerreelia had several fantasy relevant seasons. So is it just a really great career year or is he really just a one hit wonder? And it was like twice as good across the board. I have every counting staff.

It's kind of a Brady Anderson situation. where I think it's, I think it's debatable. No, I think Rich Raleigh is the runaway choice. Maybe Bill Hall is the other one, just because that season was so far out from what he did before. But I just think Ritraili's season was better.

You know who actually had the biggest difference in terms of OPS Plus? In the season we're referring to here, it was 132. And his next best season, it was 99. And that's Jason Bartlett, who Frank mentioned. Thank you, Scott.

Surprisingly, I mean, Bill Hall, I love the reference to Bill Hall because that 35 homer season just clearly stands out. But in terms of OPS Plus, 125 that year versus 117 the year before, very close. And then Zach Cozart has a huge difference in OPS Plus, too. 140 in the career season, which was actually just behind Rich Aurelias in that career season. A 140 for Cozart in that career season. Next close is 116. Or actually for a full season. 108.

Yeah. And even in the 108 was only 53 games. So like a real full season, it's probably 92 for Zach Kozart OPS plus compared to 140 in his best season. That was actually probably going to be my vote, but I will lean Rich Aurelia. Because you have that long of a career, you better have a few fantasy relevant seasons. And that year was just ridiculous. Good job, Chris. But runner up for me is Zach Kozart.

We seem to be... I think I'm going to go Cozart here. He's anti-rich Ruehorelia because he forgot to add him to the list. No, I really just... I had him here. I was just writing a bunch of names. It was one of those situations where you have a tiny corner of the paper picked out where you plan to take notes.

And it just, the amount of notes you take dramatically exceeds the space you have to work with. So I was like squeezing names together and I just wrote his name too small. That was his only All-Star season. By the way, team name Tuesday, keeping it Aurelia. Yeah. Not bad. Yeah.

Thank you, Frank. Come on, Chris. No, it's a team name. Rich Aurelia led... Tuesday. Rich Aurelia also led the league in hits, 206, 2,000 hits. That would have been pretty good. 206 hits in that 2001 season, only season as an All-Star,

finished 12th and MVP voting, Silver Slugger. I think we have to go with Rich Aurelia just because we're getting bullied here, Scott. My vote would have been for Jason Bartlett. Sounds like you wanted Zach Cozart, but if there's two others that like one player, we'll go with Rich Aurelia. So he's the winner for Shortstop, the one-hit wonder team. Third base, we've already referenced the name. Bill Miller, Boston Red Sox, 2003, 326 batting average, led the league, 19 home runs, 85 ribbies.

Chase Headley, San Diego Padres, 2012, 286 batting average, 31 homers, 115 RBI led the league, 95 runs scored. Josh Harrison in 2014, had a solid all-round year, and in Morgan Ensberg, 2005, 283, with 36. home runs. Adam, third base. I know you have a lot of love for Chase Headley, former Yankee. Is that where you're going? I think it's Headley. I laughed when I heard the name said. I think it's him because then he goes to the Yankees. The expectations are sky high. From a fantasy standpoint, Chase Hadley became a massive bust and one of the worst cashman signings. I would say Headley. 31 home runs in that year. His next highest was 14. Now, he did have double-digit home runs in what was that eight seasons

but I mean he was barely fantasy relevant his second highest home run total was 14 his second highest RBI total 64 never had more than 80 runs never hit better than 273 except for one partial season

I just that was basically the only year Chase Hadley mattered for fantasy and he was a stud 115 RBIs gee yeah I mean, I like the Bill Miller reference because he went from being this nobody with the Giants to winning a batting title with the career high and home runs with the Red Sox that one year. But Chase Headley was like MVP caliber that one season. And what really tops it off for me is like it's one of the greatest fakeouts of all time because he was this huge prospect who we keep waiting and waiting and waiting to break out.

He does finally, everybody's fully on board. and then he goes back to being the same boring guy he was before that breakout. So I think we're unanimous here on Chase Headley. Honorable mention for Morgan Ensberg, though, because he was fourth in MVP voting in 2005, never made an All-Star game otherwise. That one is a pretty big one too, just out of nowhere at age 24. Gosh, Chase Headley, man.

Finished fifth in MVP voting that season in 2012. Want a gold glove, a silver slugger, then goes to the Yankees of all places. Great Park to hit in. Just becomes a jag. Chase Headley, you are our one-hit wonder at the third base position. Outfield, well, we're going to have to somewhat condense this because we could go days talking about outfielders,

but a few names that stood out, Carlos Quentin, someone that I could never quit. You guys already know that. I was going to, if we were doing this draft style, my first pick was going to be Carlos Quentin just to steal it from Frank. I love Carlos Quentin. Gary Matthews, Jr., for the Texas Rangers in 2006.

Ryan Ludwig, the Cardinals, 2008, 37 home runs, a 966 OPS. Mike Morris was another player. I just could never quit with the Nationals in 2011. 300 batting average, 31 home runs. Darren Erstad with the Angels in 2000. BJ Upton, Tampa Bay, Devil Rays, I believe, still at that point, 2007. And then you got Demetri Young with the Tigers. Mitch Hanigur with the Mariners in 2008.

Can Mitch Hanager ever get back? Well, that remains to be seen. Chris, give us your top three outfielders here. So I will go with Darren Erstad. That season was just remarkable. And it was totally out of nowhere. And also, he was a punter for the University of Nebraska football team. I don't know if you guys know that.

He hit 355 with 25 homers, 28 steals that year, had it 240, 240 hits. Yeah. Wow. 3.55. That was a ridiculously good season. Then I'm going to go with, and you guys seemed a little iffy when I suggested this yesterday, but I'm going to go with Mitch Hanigar in 2008. I just feel like there's such better choices.

No, no, no. And then I'm going to go with, just because he's a very, I remember him being a fun player, Demetri Young, Demet Hook. So those are my choices I could be talked out of Mitch Hanager. Terrible out. Maybe Gary Matthews, but yeah,

that's what I'm going with. Dominic Brown, you missed him, Frank. Oh, I did. Dominic Brown, I think,

is Exhibit A here for one hit wonder. It's kind of a Chase Headley situation where like, oh, look, he's finally breaking out with 27 homers in,

in 2013. And I was all about it, man. I was calling myself the leader. of the domo nation. I had this whole wordplay thing going on where he's domonating and I was leader of the domo nation.

All right, something like that. Anyway, Dominic Brown. I love it. Ryan Ludwig in 2008 is just such a standout season. He was MVP caliber bat that year. 37 homers, 113 RBI, 104 run score, 299 batting average.

Like, he was awesome and then just never was again so those are those would be one and two for me Dominic Brown and Ryan Ludwig and then just because it's just because it's notorious and because it got him a big contract with the Angels that

then never amounted to anything I'm actually going to go with Gary Matthews third here though I'm I don't understand how you mean there's a lot of good choices but Gary Matthews 313 batting average 19 homers 44 doubles, 102 runs, score, three. That was in 2006, and he'd be my choice. I don't know how you leave Darren Arstead off your list.

Well, that was such a huge season. I know, but it gets back to the idea of, was that really his only good season? I understand it was an outlier season, but he had 29-9 average 16 homers-23 steals one year, 296 average 19 homers 20 steals one year like he wasn't just a one year flash in the pan he did kind of disappear after that one awesome season but he had a couple of good seasons leading up to it i also i i don't think don brown's a good choice don't i think don brown

is kind of the poster child for one because he had two good months like really he only had he had a 991 OPS in May and 884 in June. After that, he was sub-800 in every month, 6-7. Like, he wasn't good in April. He wasn't good in July. He wasn't good in August. He wasn't good in September. Chris.

He was the same guy. Full season statistic. Sure. But in his case, he was the same guy he'd always been. I remember I was working here. I had no faith in Don Brown continuing that. That was just like if Chris Shelton had his good month in May instead. That was, it was, it was, it was, it was fulls gold the whole time.

Uh, there was no reason to believe in that. Because you say you know better. He was a, all the people who are full don't count. He was a farcical. All-Star choice. I don't think, I think you're changing the criteria here. Chris is creating loopholes. He's going back and looking at splits, monthly splits from Dom Brown,

2013 to try and get him off the list. Uh, I, I think personally, uh, Ludwig and Don Brown have to be on the list. list. Adam, what do you think? I think I like Scott's list personally. Yeah, Dominic Brown for sure. Can't go with BJ Upton because he had some really good steel seasons. Scott, what was your list again? Gary Matthews, Gary Matthews, Gary Matthews for sure. So Dominic Brown, Gary Matthews, who is your third? Ryan Ludwig. Yeah, I'll throw a name out for fun. Domingo Santana. Thoughts on him? He was a good last year.

Yeah, he was useful for like the first month and then he was awful. Here we go again. No, but he that's true. Don Brown had 20 good games that season, guys. He had a 19 game stretch for he hit 12 home runs. Get out of here with this Dom Brown. So you're putting Dom Brown on the list and leaving Darren Erstead off. It's ridiculous.

So no one's no one's even using Carlos Quentin then. I mean, Carlos Quentin is kind of like another another Darren Erstad where MVP caliber season, but he also had two or three pretty good seasons, I guess. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. He had some other parts of seasons where he was solid and useful for fantasy. Just going back to Domingo Santana, Adam. Put some respect on Domingo Santana's name. Last year, 843 OPS in April and March. June, 929. Come on. That's two months. Oh, come. That's a better season than Don Brown had. He had a bad year, Domingo Santana. Look at, look, they couldn't even, like, nobody wanted to sign him after his

such a good year. Signs like a nothing. Where is he now? Cleveland. Domingo Santana in Cleveland. He's really starting for Cleveland. In the Grapefruit League, gonna dominate.

You heard it here first, Adam. Okay. No, Cactus League. I keep mixing up my cactus and Grapefru League. But Domingo Santana in Arizona. Going to get the job done. As long as you know which one to eat and which one not to eat,

you'll be all right, Frank. Hey, man. So is everybody but Chris going Brown Ludwig Mathis. I'm playing the rest of this. I'm playing the rest of this podcast under protest. I'm pulling a Joe Madden. Yeah, I think Ludwig Brown, Gary Matthews, for Darren Irside did have some other good seasons, useful seasons. So it was a huge outlier,

no doubt about it, but I think we're going Ludwig, Don Brown, Gary Maddeny. It was the best season any player on this list had. It might be the best player on this list at any position. You got your Rich Aurelia. I don't want to hear it. You did get your rich are really. It was objectively the right choice. Starting pitchers, Much like outfielders, we have a large list here. So I'm not even going to read off all the names, but Scott, if you can somehow narrow it down to five, which five did you come up with as your one-hit wonder rotation from 2000 on?

Okay, I'll go over the three that I think are most obvious, and then I'll have some debates here at the end. So Esteban Leweiser, Oh, yeah. For the White Sox in 2003 was the first name. I thought of. He was in Sy Young contention that year, went 21 and 9 with a 290 ERA, 1-11 whip, and actually led the ALN strikeout. So, Esteban Lois, Eric Bedard in 2007.

It wasn't his only useful year, but it was a huge outlier. And it got him trade. It got Adam Jones from the Orioles in a huge trade. Uh, no way. No, you can do better. You can do better than that. Okay. Oliver Perez for the Padres in 2004.

Pirates. Pirates, yep. It was the Pirates, really? Yep. Yep. Okay. I love the majors in K-per-9, 298 ERA. Yeah, he was, he had a monster season.

Yeah, 239 strikeouts that year. Uh, so those are my three favorites. I think Aaron Sanchez is 2016 for the Blue Jays. is probably in as my number four guy. I'm also considering Jarrett Wright, his 2004 season with the Braves, which got him, which fooled the Yankees certainly,

and he was never of any use for them. It's just like he had a 328 ERA that year and all his other seasons were like 450 or higher. He won 15 games for the Braves that year. So maybe Jarrett Wright. Joe Mays of the twins, who I'm probably, the only one who remembers this season.

2001, Joe Mays. He went 17 and 13 with the 316 ERA and 115 whip in 233 and two-thirds innings. He was a fantasy stud that year and then just disappeared after that. So it would probably be between those six for me

and I think I'm probably going to leave out Jared. I kind of want to leave out Aaron Sanchez. Look at Bedard's pay. Look at Bedard's numbers. He was a good pitcher for a few years. I've got one that we forgot. It's kind of a Chris choice, Eric Bittard, I guess. Here's one that, one, it's a good choice.

And two, it's another one that if we include Jared Wright, we'll get two that will make the Yankees fans sad on the podcast. So I think we probably want to go with Jared, right? And also Carl Pavano. His 2004, it was a, he finished sixth in Cy Young voting. It was his only season with more, I believe it's his only season with more than 100 innings in an ERA below 375.

It is. And one of only two seasons where he even had an ERA below four. 3-0 ERA, got a huge contract with the Yankees, gigantic bust. I think Carl Povano belongs in the conversation. The only thing with Pavano...

I will take Kyle Freeland in this as well. Yeah, Kyle Freeland, I thought, was like a shoe-in. Although, man, nobody believed in that. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, Chris. Come on. I want to throw out. I don't think we can pick it because he had other good seasons.

But Ben Sheets 2004 was remarkable. He was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Historic. It was a historic season for shows. Utterly dominant. The problem was he had four seasons after that where he was good but not really healthy. So I don't know if we can count it, but man, that is, that is definitely. And Mark Pryor's 2003.

There was some disagreement when I suggested it, but if you really look at it, it's the only season where he was even healthy, really. And he was one of the best pitchers in baseball. He was really, really good. 243 IRA, 211 innings, never threw more than 166 innings otherwise. so and a full run and a third lower than his next best season. Yeah, yeah, those two sheets and Pryor,

I think are similar where they just had this one season where they looked like the best pitcher in the world. But then they had a couple of pretty good seasons where they weren't quite healthy. I think Pryor has a stronger case than sheets. A couple of- I don't think prior has a, okay, sorry. So I think as we keep going, Lwiza, Esteban Lois is the slam dunk. Who else is the slam dunk?

I would say, Oliver Perez. I would say Kyle Freeland. Yeah, I like Freeland. I like Aaron Sanchez, 2016 a lot as well. I like Joe Mays. I had no clue what that was, Scott, but you convinced me on Joe Mays for the Twins in 2001. And another Twins guy who I just always love to bring up

anytime I get the opportunity, because it's the weirdest season in Major League Baseball history. Carlos Silva, I think it's his 2007, season, 2005 season, 344 ERA for a guy who never had an ERA below 421. 203 innings pitched, 71 strikeouts, nine walks in that season. But we're trying to go with the slam dunks here, Chris. You're just confusing everybody. There's one more I really want to highlight, too. Even though he's not, I don't think he's going to make the team or anything.

But Alfredo Simone for the Reds in 2014, he's a 15 and 10 with the 344 ERA, 121 whip. Not many strikeouts. But if you're wondering how Ahuhanio Suarez is on the Reds right now, it's because the Tigers traded him, among other players, to get that Alfredo Simone season. Yikes. So it's just, it's a notorious example. All right. The rotation I have is Esteban Loiza, Oliver Perez, Kyle Friedland, Aaron Sanchez, Joe Mays.

Joe Mays fits within the letter of the law, but I don't think it's in keeping with the spirit of what we're going for. Like, Daisuke Matsuzakis 2008, where I had this horrible rookie season coming over the most hype, like the most hype pitcher we've ever seen coming from Japan. terrible rookie season, really, really good 2008, and was basically never useful again. That feels more in keeping with the spirit of what we're going for. Matsuzaka's good. How is that true? Everybody knows the name Dice K. Matsuzaka.

You people know Joe Mays. I thought the spirit of what we're doing here is, hey, do you have a vague recollection of this guy or don't even remember him at all because it was before your time? Well, listen to these numbers he had versus, here's this guy everybody knows, but he let everybody down. I mean, Dice K had a $290 ERA that year. He finished fourth in Siong voting.

Chris, you've convinced me. We can eliminate one of Kyle Freeland or Aaron Sanchez. What do you think? Oh, we can't have Dice K in. Why do you get to decide here? I would take Jomey's out. I mean, that DiceK season was really good. Are we leaving Jared Wright out?

Yeah, Jared Wright's a good one too. We're trying to remember some guys. Geis K. Matsuzaka has more name recognition, so he's more eligible for the assistant. I think that's a, that is a name. That when people think of the one season where you got fooled especially, I think Dice K is the one. I think after that season coming out of 2008, people were like, all right, dice K's here.

The gyro ball's here, baby. He's going to be one of the best pitchers in baseball for the next decade. We had completely different priorities here. By the way, he won 15 games the year before the year you're talking about. Right, but he had like a 101 strikeouts. But didn't he have like a 480RA? Yeah. It was kind of like Trevor Bauer last year.

It was. As a rookie. So that's the thing. Like he was a rookie with a 4-4ERA and 201 strikeouts in 2007. I honestly don't remember how that. I mean, it was a 108 ERA plus, so a little bit better than average. I have a feeling he was fairly hyped going into 2008. You know, like he had a solid rookie year.

All right. Here's how we're going to do this. Joe Mays. This is what I've decided. Oliver Perez and Loiza. locks. Each of you get one pick to round out the rotation. I will exclude myself. Scott, your pick is for Joe Mays or Jared Wright? Well, because I'm hopeful Adam, well, now. Adam's going to want to pick Freeland. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with Joe Mays.

Okay. Chris? Mark Pryor. That's the worst. That is the worst. No, it's not. Actually, like, You turned to lose. Hold on, hold on, Adam. You gave him this freedom. Hold on, Adam. Do your job and go to Mark Pryor's baseball reference page. I already did. He had a good, he was fine.

He never, he never had another good season. He had other good. He owns my prior in 2005. I can tell you, he was must start that year. What do you? Okay, dude. In a 10 team league, he was must start. The thing is like, Prior had a 243 ERA in this 2003 season.

That's the one you're using is like, oh, he was so good. He had a 350. career ERA. Kyle Freeland has what a, what's his career? Mark Friar had a 179 ERA plus in 2003. I do not think we are properly acknowledging how much better he was that year. And how much, hold on, hold on. And how much hype there was around him and how big of a disappointment the rest of his career was.

Okay, he had, that's how I'm looking. Find the most disappointing prospect. Frank is the host. He gave me the right to pick one. Mark Pryor is my choice. My choice is locked in. It's bolded on the Google Doc. We're moving on. I think I protest. I don't want to be part of this anymore. Well, Mark Pryor. I already filed a protest. Mark Pryor had a pretty good career. He had a 332-E-R-A, 243, 402, 967. Those are his first four seasons. Give me a break. That is the first time in history that someone has said Mark Pryor had a pretty good career. Because everybody thought he was going to be the best pitcher in baseball, but to throw, how many

innings did he throw? 657 innings with a 351 ERA from 2002 to 2006? That's pretty good. I think he had a good career ratio. His career was short-lived. But Chris, you're eliminating the season where he led the majors in K-per-9. He led the majors in K-per-9 in 2005, two years after you're talking about. These other guys are stiffs.

He's one-hit wonder. These other guys are stiff. Mark Pryor's a one hit wonder. Yeah. Like a 351 ERA over 600 innings would be a pretty good career for a reliever. Not a starting pitcher, Adam. Okay. But the point is he was a good pitcher while he pitched.

The other guys weren't. They had one season. Right. And that's fine. That is how you are deciding to define it. The way I am deciding to define it is Mark Pryor had this one shining moment where he was arguably the best pitcher in baseball. and never got close to that level again.

And Dominic Brown had two months where he was the best hitter in baseball and never got close to that at all, but it doesn't matter. He was changed your criteria. Dominic Brown wasn't even the best hitter in baseball for those two months. He had like a 940 OPS.

All right. Let's calm down. Adam, who's your final pick? And for the record, I don't think Mark Pryor should be on the list. This is just awful. Too bad. You made the rules.

You gave me the opportunity to make that selection. I'm actually, I just feel bad for Scott. because he's done such a good job with this and hasn't gotten his due. So I'm going to go with me yesterday. I came up with most of the names.

I'm going to go with Jared Wright because Kyle Freeland would have to have five more bad seasons to even come close to Jared Wright, basically. So I'm going to go with Jared Wright. All right. Oliver Perez, Loiza, Joe Mays, Mark Pryor, Boo, Jared Wright, 2004.

Relief pitchers. I'm just going to quickly, turn this one over to Scott. Scott, it seems like you just kind of took this one by the, I don't know what I'm saying here, but you took it. You took relief pictures. By the grapefruits. By the grapefruits out of my mouth, I think turned out to be the right ones upon further research. And that was Derek Turnbow of the Brewers in 2005 and Jason Mott of the Cardinals in 2012. Turnbow. And look, obviously relief pictures, there's a lot of ones. and done closers guys who had 30 homer seasons, but did the full line look like they were going

to be like dominant knockout closers for a long time. And I think in the case of these two, it did turn bow. In 2005, 39 saves with a 174 ERA 108 whip about a strikeout per inning, which doesn't sound great by today's standards, but in 2012, obviously the strikeout situation was a little different. And then Jason Mott in 2012 for the Cardinals, 42 saves with the 275 ERA, 0.92 whip 10.8K per 9. And they were both. That was their only year. Well, actually, Turnbow followed up in the 39 save season with a 24 save season in which he actually made the All-Star team.

But with a 687 ERA, clearly not a good year for Derek Turnbow. So those would be my two choices. Jordan Walden would probably be third on my list for that 2011 season with the A's where he had over 30 saves, 32 saves with 10K pro 9, 290, 80, RA. But the walks were high, the whip was high. He never had more than three saves in any season otherwise. So it was clearly a one-hit wonder situation. But I think Derek Turnbow and Jason Mott were the bigger fakeouts there.

And so they're going to be a, they're leading up the list for me. Shout out to the Cardinals who consistently just found random relievers. Edward Mujica was another one that stood out for me. in 2013. But yeah, Derek Turnbow, you brought up the name yesterday to me, Scott. I never heard of the guy,

so that's a great one. Jason Mott, very early in my career. My fantasy career is someone who stood out. So the roster looks like this. Devin Mazzarocco, Hazus Aguilar,

Junior SpyV, Rich Aurelia, Chase Headley, Ryan Ludwig, Dom Brown, Gary Matthews, Oliver Perez, Esteban Loiza,

Joe Mays, Mark Pryor, Jared Wright, Derek Turnbow, Jason, Mott. So Chris, when you write the story for this, who's the headshot you're using? Ooh. Who's the poster child for this? Probably Mark Pryor.

Oh, gosh. Nobody's clicking on this article. I think it's the Wiza. I think it's Loiza. I just want to give a shout out to Bion Hym. Had several pretty good seasons, but that was the only one where he had more 20 saves. I think it was his 2001 season. And just 2002 season. And just one of the most delightful characters in Major League

Baseball in the last 20 years. I love Pyongyanghung Kim. I will love Bianhum Kim forever. He made 14 appearances with the Marlins and the announcers on the Marlins. Every single start multiple times would have to apologize to the audience at home for Bianham Kim cursing. I realize we didn't we didn't put together utility does bill miller just get utility because we all kind of wanted them in I think it's Darren instead

I was going to go Miller but I'm not sure whether Chris deserves to have another pick here or wow I didn't get any outfield picks first of all well that's what I'm saying like do it does he is he owed a makeup pick for the outfield or does he not deserve to have any picks ever again because he forced mark prior on of this team. I go with the latter. Yeah. Yeah. Adam, what do you think? Darren Ernstead or Bill Miller for a utility?

I don't know. A Ledmus, can I go with a Ledmus Diaz? Oh. Ledmus Diaz not a bad one either. No. That's, we should have mentioned him, though. That's a good, I don't know that he should be the DH, but we should have mentioned to him.

It's a good hit wonder for sure. I'll take Bill Miller. A little batting title there. All right. Anything to keep Chris off the list. Like, If you want a batting title hitting 324, we're really going to criticize Darren Erstad

because Ichiro hit like two points higher than him that year. Come on. No, because we're talking about one hit wonders and I think Bill Miller more accurately fits the description. They were both regulars for a long time. Darren Erstads is a huge historic season. I think this is, I think it's Darren Ersteads. I'm surprised as hard as you campaign for Mark Pryor that you didn't make that same campaign for Eric Bedard, who I think his one season, even though he had a couple decent seasons otherwise, his one standout season stands out even more relative to the others than Pryor's does.

I don't know if that's true. All right. We're going to wrap it there. Sorry we didn't get to your questions today. We'll get to your questions tomorrow when you are watching the podcast live on our Facebook fantasy baseball today group page. So watch us there, 8 p.m. Eastern time. We appreciate it for Adam, Scott, Chris, I am Frank. Go home.

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