Fantasy Baseball Today - Youth vs. Veteran Teams; Latest MLB Proposal (04/21 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

Episode Date: April 21, 2020

Ever wonder how your Fantasy team would look if you drafted just veterans? How about if you drafted just young players? Well that's exactly what we're doing today but first we have another proposal for the 2020 season, which now includes Texas as a third location for games (6:47). How would this change things for Fantasy? ... Scott and Adam are teaming up to run the veteran team while Chris and Frank are in control of the youth team (13:50). Adam reminds us that the veterans are very strong at starting pitcher and then the two sides reveal their catchers and first basemen. ... Next, we have middle infield which is dominated by youth (27:53)! Scott and Adam chose who at second base and shortstop? Which early-round hitter has as much downside as Fernando Tatis? ... Who lands at the hot corner for the two sides (39:00)? Somehow, we get into Kris Bryant and how low he is in Frank's rankings. ... Which outfielders are selected for the veterans and who makes it for the youth (45:05)? Youth takes it home again but we wind up getting into it over Giancarlo Stanton! ... Email us at [e-mail]. 'Fantasy Baseball Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @CBSFantasyBB, @AdamAizer, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Download our printable Draft Kit from CBSSports.com/draftkit! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast from CBS Sports. I drive, center field, at the wall, grand slam. This is magnificent. Got a fantasy question? Email Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com. Get ready to win your league. Well, fantasy becomes reality. Now here's Frank, Scott, Chris, and Adam.

Welcome everybody to Fantasy Baseball today. Tuesday, April 21st. new intro not too shabby everybody mentioned is actually here today frank joined by chris adam and scott adam you're back how was staycation how are you doing buddy it was good it was fine i guess you're going to wear fun oh we had a geez what didn't we do Friday night i had to drop something off at our inlaw my in-laws and i dropped it off using a pair of gloves sprayed it with Lysol. And then we had a conversation from about 15 to 20 feet away while we were standing in the rain.

So Friday was insane. We can't do that again. Like that was too crazy for us. And then Sunday I played Scattergories on Zoom with my cousins, my brother, my sister. That was actually very fun. I recommend taking advantage of Zoom and playing fun trivia games and stuff like that. Adam has stock in Zoom, by the way. Full disclosure.

And Scategories. I've always had long had categories stock. God is here already drinking a soda here today, so I do appreciate that. Well, I thought my energy level was a little low yesterday, so, you know, have to have to ramp it up. Chris, you missed our impromptu chicken finger discussion, so apologies. But if you really, really chicken fingers now is the chance to do so. Yeah, really disappointed that I missed that one. I consider myself something of a chicken finger connoisseur.

best chicken fingers available at chain restaurants. I would go, I don't know what you guys actually discussed, but this is just, I'm throwing this out there. PDQ, great, obviously, that's their whole game. Chili's, great chicken fingers. Really highly recommend a chicken finger from Chili's. And Longhorn Steakhouse, the best chicken fingers in the world. Longhound steak, Jesus, Longhorn Steakhouse.

Also an excellent honey mustard. So that's your top three right there. So basically, as far as we got into the discussion was just that we both really like chicken fingers because we're picky eaters. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is not how that discussion unfolded. I do not lump myself in with the picky eaters. I was just saying you being a picky eater must enjoy chicken fingers because there's never been an eater too picky for chicken fingers.

Well, I mean, it's white meat chicken and it's fried. And then you typically get some sort of dipping sauce. It's hard to, it's hard to go on. Yeah, Scott doesn't use dipping sauce, which. That's weird. That's actually like, I might have to report that to HR. A good chicken finger doesn't need dipping sauce. Maybe when you get like at a concession stand at the town fair or something that tastes like nothing, you need to put dipping sauce on that.

I mean, you don't need it, but it enhances it. It's a delicious thing that you can add to your meal. Yeah. No, I think it's good as just the taste of the chicken batter. I definitely used to be a very picky eater. I've grown out of that for the most part, but God, I still love a chicken finger. If you went, like I cooked burgers last night and they had cheese. We're talking about chicken food. Yeah, I know, but here's the thing. They had cheese, mushrooms, and chopped onions that were sauteed in vinegar. And then my wife put ketchup on it.

And I was like kind of pissed. Yeah. That's an insult. That's an insult to me. Well, because like ketchup is its own specific thing. And ketchup is good in very limited circumstances. French fries, hot dogs sometimes. Chicken fingers?

No. I don't like ketchup with chicken fingers. Oh, I'm sorry. But everybody else does. But the point is, if what you cooked is good, it shouldn't need a dipping sauce. Like, it's kind of what's got. Yeah. There you go.

I said no. You know what else? I don't eat ketchup on my fries. They don't. Good fries don't need ketchup. Damn straight, Scott. Have you ever heard of El Chival restaurant in New York City? No.

It's a Chicago-based restaurant, but there's one here. My wife and I went there for our anniversary because they have the best supposedly the best burger in the city. And I got to say, it's the best burger in the city. It's amazing. But it's a really good burger. It's got some onions. It's got, you can get a fried egg on it if you want.

It's a little too messy for me. I don't like that. But they do have a sauce. And it's a delicious sauce. And there's nothing wrong. If you make a good sauce, it just enhances the flavors of everything else. All right. This show is going off the rails already.

So I'm going to try and get us back on track. Four man show. And this is how we're getting started. here. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Today on the show, we do have another MLB proposal. Not going to spend too much time on it, but I figure any time one of these come around, we will bring it up on the show and how it could potentially affect fantasy baseball. And on Tuesdays, we like to do either a draft or, you know, constructing a random team. And today we're going to do that. It's team scam. Adam and Scott going up against team crank, Chris and Frank. And

Adam actually has the green screen up behind him. He has the scam sign. So he's locked and loaded. He's ready to go here. And the crux of the draft or just kind of revealing these teams will be old players versus young players, youth versus veterans, where Chris and I are representing the youth team, anyone who's 24 years old or younger. And Adam and Scott are representing the oldies, 32 years old or older. And then we'll get to your questions later on. Fantasy Baseball at CBSI.com.

But I did want to start off with the latest proposal in baseball, which sees a three-state plan between Arizona, Florida, and Texas. Chris, I know that a concern that you had when we brought up the possibility of just teams playing in the two states in Arizona and Florida was that there would be too many rainouts, there would be rain delays, there would be cancellations. Apparently there are ballparks in all three of these states in St. Petersburg, and Phoenix and in Arlington that have roofs available.

So that's something that would not be a concern for those teams playing there. Multiple games hosted at these sites per day. Let's see what happens ultimately with this proposal. Mike Trout and Clayton Kershaw seemed like they're already kind of opposed to quarantine baseball where they're just kind of secluded in one state area away from their families. And obviously those are two of the bigger names in baseball between Trout and Kershaw. So any just immediate takeaways. Basically, it's the same proposal as we had before,

just with an added state now in Texas. Apparently, they were listening to Kores. I mean, I guess the idea would be you would play like five games per day at like what, Globe Life Park is the new stadium in Texas, with the roof, Tropicana Field and Chase Field. And so you just kind of cycle them in the way that like the NBA does summer league where as soon as one game ends it's like half an hour and the next game like that seems to be the only way it would be feasible i don't unless there's

a second domed stadium in st petersburg florida that i'm not aware of uh they talked they had talked about uh maybe incorporating miami's too so that there would be because i think the ideas there would be more than there would be two at each of these sites? I don't. I'm sure they've got a plan, and I'm sure that they've thought these logistics through or in the process of thinking these logistics through. Pat, way, I have a question. So in terms of the Dome Stadium,

they're saying they're only going to play at the Dome Stadium or they just have these Dome Stadiums. Like, they can play some games at the outdoor stadiums. Yeah. Some games. Yeah. And like I've seen college baseball tournaments play four games a day, I think. It is endless.

It is a marathon. Yeah. And the field would get so beat up, you know, by a week, you'd think. So I don't think they could do that. I just think having a dome stadium would help on the days where you have crappy weather. But they're part of the, it was playing multiple games on the same site each day, which would be. I don't know, man. It seems in.

Seems ambitious to do it for several months. I mean, look, you're going to have to do something. I think ultimately what this all comes down to is what we're seeing is that Major League Baseball is taking seriously the possibility. And at this point, I think the likelihood that they're going to have to come up with some kind of creative solution. And that they're being flexible and considering both the, or all three of the Arizona only, Arizona and Florida, Arizona, Florida, Texas. The more contingency plans that there are,

the greater possibility it is that we get this season off the ground. And I'm starting to become more hopeful that we'll have. I mean, I've always been pretty hopeful, but I'm more optimistic now than I have been, that we're going to get a season. And, you know, it depends on what it looks like. You know, when we're talking about the effects of, you know, Arizona specifically, well, if they're playing most of the games at Chase Field, that mutes a lot of those effects.

You know, we've seen Chase Field play as a much more neutral park. You know, when we're reacting to the offensive environment that that could have created, it was more playing in spring training and minor league facilities in Arizona that wouldn't have, presumably the humidor and the closed roof. And so, you know, I think what you would see in a scenario where a third of the league plays at Chase Field, a third of the league plays in Arizona, a third of the league plays in Texas, and a third of the league plays in Florida is probably the league that plays in Florida is going to have better pitching options for fans.

Because whether it's just Tropicana, whether it's Tropicana and Marlins Park, either one, those are great places to pitch. Yeah, it might become like a new Like the new division between AL and NL. Obviously, AL pitchers have their work cut out for them Because facing an extra hitter every time through the lineup Might be similar to that sort of division. Although the NL, the assumption is that we're going to have universal D.H

At this point, I'm pretty much moving forward with that. Right. Like that would be the new division among, you know, we talk about whenever a pitcher switches for, from A.L to NL. His ceiling goes up, his bore goes up, all of that. One takeaway, like, there's going to be all kinds of fascinating ripple effects of this, you know, from, I think we're just going to kind of have to throw out 2020 results when we're drafting for 2021. You know, it's going to be really hard to take much out of it. If everyone's playing in a different environment

than they're used to, if, you know, if the divisions get jumbled like they're talking. about, well, all of a sudden you've got a situation where a hitter might be facing half the teams in his division who he's never really faced before or he's only faced a couple of times. And hitters tend to do worse. You know, there is an effect when hitters switch leagues. It's typically more pronounced going from NL to AAL, but hitters tend to perform worse their first season in a new league. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to say just throw the results. out. I mean, a player, a player is a lot more than just his environment. So it's just, it's going to create this heavily variable that's going to be difficult to account for. We're going to have to

heavily wait. We're going to put, have to put everything on a curve and we're going to have to figure out what that curve is. But you know what? I hope we get to. I really, really hope we have to deal with all these issues. I hope you're right, Chris, because at this point, I'll take baseball any way that I can get it. So I share a similar sentiment. Hopefully we can get baseball back. It's going to change how we kind of value players for years to come, obviously. But, you know, within the safety ramifications, the parameters that we've been given, hopefully we can have a baseball season here in 2020. So that's the latest proposal here for baseball. But I do want to get into this draft, this kind of, it's not really a draft as much as it is.

It's the all olds versus all youngs. All youngs versus all old does make it happen. Of course, there's no way you can do that without team scam controlling the oldies, the veterans here. So the age that I wanted to look at was the average age in baseball is 28 years old. So I decided to go four years in each direction where the veterans that team scam can draft are 32 years old or over. and the youngins, the youth players that we could draft, are 24 years old or younger. So I guess that's what we'll start it. We'll start here.

And Team Scam, get ready to get dominated. You guys are up first. We're using a headpoints roster construction. One catcher, first baseman, second base, third base, shortstop, three outfielders, one utility, five starting pitchers, and two relief pitchers. sell team scam. Feel free to get us started here. Okay.

So baseball is a young man's game, right? That's what this exercise showed us, Adam. It showed that hitting is a young man's game. Our pitching staff is definitely going to be better. Okay. I'll want you to kick us off here since you did the leg work. Why don't we just do pitchers? You know, everybody needs to hit.

Our pitchers, so Jacob de Grom is 31, but he'll be 32 on June 19th, which is also my birthday, by the way. So Jacob de Grom is on our pitching staff Along with Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer Three of the first four pitchers in ADP Yes, please. We win. Yeah, I agree.

It's the points league. And Scott, we could have a little debate about four and five. I put Kershaw and Charlie Morton on there. Zach Granky and you Darvish would also be options. Probably not Darvish. So it's a matter of bumping Kershaw or Morden for Granky. Well, I rank them both ahead of Granky. so I'm going to defer to my rankings there, though.

I'd like to think we could still have Granky on our bench, right? Oh, yeah. A two-start situation. Swap them out. And I think that's the end of today's show. Yeah. Old guys win. Old guys win.

Woo. A nice, a pretty good edition of fantasy baseball today, 15-minute episode. Hope you enjoyed it. You know how I love how I threw it to you guys for catchers. And Adam just completely took the show over himself and just said, We're going to go with pitchers here because that's the strength of the old band team. But that is something we talked about before the show. Definitely a strength here is with the veteran team is with the starting pitchers there.

So look, I'm going to follow the rules. And I'm going to start with our catcher here. Chris, I mean, I sent the team over to Chris before we started. And admittedly, there are a few catchers, maybe one in particular, that we just kind of miss out on who's past. the age of 24, and that is Will Smith. So he's not a catcher, but it seems like we kind of have to settle here on Francisco Mejia, Chris, unless there's somebody else you found who's better. No, no, there were only two catchers last season in all of baseball who were under the age of 24

who appeared in at least 20 games. So no, Francisco Mejia is the only option. And that's what was frustrating. Like I initially saw the list you sent me, and I was like, well that's gross francisco man he is not very good i don't want him as the catcher on my team uh and then i looked it up and the only other option was uh frankly a guy i've never heard of uh who was a backup let me see if i can find it yeah this is a real person maybrez villoria oh yeah yeah royals right yeah he is the only other uh he is the only other player who copy at least 20 games in the 2019 season as a catcher under the age of 24.

How old's Sean Murphy? He's also 25. Yeah, 25. Carson Kelly's 25. Danny Janssen's 25. Will Smith is 25. A lot of decent 25-year-old catchers. A lot of guys who I really like.

I like Danny Jansen and Carson Kelly quite a bit, especially. But, yeah, by the parameters of this game where we decided arbitrarily that you could only pick guys who were 24 or under before July 1st. Yeah, we kind of got screwed at catcher. But that does, I think, highlight something valuable to keep in mind about catcher,

which is that it's a really hard position to be good at at a very young age. You know, catcher prospects, you look at like Buster Posey and Joe Maurer are kind of the exceptions, but a lot of catcher prospects need extra time to develop both in the minors and when they get to the major. So you do have to be patient with young catchers and not necessarily write them off. It's a difficult position to be old at, too.

Yes. We talk a lot about how it's rare to find a quality catcher over age 30. You've got better options, though. Yeah, I mean, we win this position because we have Wilson Ramos. Of course, we could have gone with Yadir and Molina as well. And I think both of those would have been better than Francisco Mejia. Quite a bit. Yeah.

So you got lucky Yeah I guess we win there Although I don't I don't like hearing the whining about all the 25 year olds we could have picked We had to pass up some pretty great 31 year olds All right Let me tell you we'll get to those soon enough

Scott did you say who our catcher was Yes Okay good so we win You want to get into it more No no no Wilson Ramas I was I like Wilson Ramos a lot for 2019 You know beyond that I'm not sure But I'm a big fan of Wilson Ramos

I think last year was his floor and that floor was like a 285 batting average. Unless he's just terrible all of a sudden because he's a 32 year old catcher. Sure. That's possible. But based on what we saw, the skill set is still there. He still hit the ball quite hard. He just needs to have better than a zero launch angle. I think the fact he's always had such good contact skills is going to help him age better, kind of like it has with Molina. Would hope so. Yeah. It all comes down to launch angle. for Wilson Ramos.

Again, he had an average launch angle of zero. It didn't exist. I know that Chris has brought up before here on the show. So raised the launch angle a little bit, hit a few more line drives, more fly balls, and we could see even more fantasy value out of Wilson Ramos. Real quick on Francisco Maha, I'll just remind everyone that from May 11th on last season,

no, he went on the IL on May 11th. Once he returned in June, his final 60 games, 297 batting average, eight home runs, an 844 OPS. To put that in perspective, Gary Sanchez had an 841 OPS. J.C. Real Muto had an 820 OPS. So just remind you,

Francisco Mejia could be a great hitter. It just comes down to how well does he play behind the plate because that's going to affect his playing time. He was in the 31st percentile in pitch framing, whereas his teammate, Austin Hedges, was the best pitchframer in all of baseball. So, yeah, yeah, we shouldn't just cast him aside. I mean, I think we'd all take Ramos or Molina over him,

but there's definitely a chance he could be the best of those three. Yeah, I like Mejia. I think he's a good sleeper. There's a handful of catchers. I would throw Sean Murphy, Danny Jansen, Carson, Cousin Calli, and Francisco Mejia all together. I like Sean Murphy the most of the four, but they're all recent top prospects. In the case of Mejia, a very, very good prospect. someone who, you know, if you remember before the Indians traded him,

they were talking about moving him to either the outfield or third base just to try to get his bat in the lineup in the 2018 season. Francisco Mejia, better as a second catcher. He's currently the 18th catcher off the board, pick 284 and ADP right now. First base, so you guys won catcher and you won starting pitchers, even though I didn't ask for pitchers, but Adam still gave us his pitchers. Well, can you give us our pitchers? I mean, not for me to take over the show,

but just to have that side-by-side comparison is... Oh, you want our pitchers, or maybe we should make you guys wait. All right, you're the host. You're the host. Go ahead, Frank. Yeah, we'll do pictures again later because people may have forgotten how awesome ours are.

I don't mind talking about them again. Adam, why don't you give us your first basement here? The old... Yeah, so 32 or older or turning 32 before July 1st. So Scott wants to go with Jose Abrao, but I actually think, Scott, I think I disagree. I think I want to go with Carlos Santana. It's either gold,

Smith, Santana or Abraeu. Yeah, if we're speaking specifically, like, we're going to play this team in a points league as opposed to just we're using a points lineup because it's, it's a more straightforward. Like, if we're applying this to point scoring, then certainly it'd be Carlos Santana over Jose Abraeu. All right, Frank, what's the, what's the ruling? We will play this out as if it's a head to head points league. All right.

I'm with you. Carlos Santana. Let's do it. Yeah. And not Paul Goldschmidt, who, you know, has been like the number one first, basically the best first baseman of the decade. But yes, we're going with Carlos Santano. It's been top eight at the position four straight years.

I think he was fourth last year, in points. He averaged 3.6 fantasy points per game last season. That was tied with Pete Alonzo. That was two or that was tied for sixth among first baseman. Again, that's Carlos Santana, which is a great points league player. but not as good as team crank's first baseman, which is Cody Bellinger, of course, who just won the National League MVP.

So Chris, give yourself a little bit of pat on the back. We finally are on the board taking over the first base position. Man, if the olds can't even win first base, we're in trouble. First base has changed quite a bit, yes. But Cody Bellinger is really an outfielder, so we'll give it to you guys, but fine. Yeah, that's one of the things, you know, I updated my position preview pieces yesterday. went through and just kind of made any changes that were needed. And, you know, one of the things that that stood out in doing the first base preview,

um, how shallow the position is these days, but also there is a like a crop of young guys coming up who could be or are very good. Cody Bellinger, Josh Bell, um, and who was the other guy that I was thinking of? Olson, Alonzo. Matt Olson and Pete Alonzo. So you guys, Pete Alonzo and Matt Olson.

wouldn't qualify for this exercise, and I don't think Josh Bell would either, but they're still young, they're prime age players. But the old guard has kind of fallen off at first base. And so, what the next five years at first base is going to look like are going to be really interesting. Can Andrew Vaughn be that elite guy? Was Bellinger, I'm sorry, Chris, was Bellinger the only first round draft pick that fell into either of these age categories? well no not other than the starting pitchers yeah among the hitters we discussed sure yeah um bellinger i'm looking at the rest of the names well i wanted a kunia and soto oh yes coonio and soto yeah i forgot about a cunia soto yeah i don't know if he's round one but he

certainly is in some people yeah for some people chris chris i mean as to who is going to make up the next elite crop of first baseman there's a very real chance it's it's largely got we don't even see his first baseman. Well, but that was the other point I was going to make is, that's not happening as much now, I think. Well, guys being transitioned to first base. It's not like there's a lot of first base prospects waiting in the wings. There's, I mean, Andrew Vaughn's a distant first there.

Evan White, of course, is breaking in this year. But it's not a particularly strong position for prospects. And you just go through who we consider good first baseman now. I mean, Josh Bell came up as an outfielder. Max Muncie, I believe, was third base. Carlos Santana, of course, a catcher. Reese Hoskin, he was true first baseman. But I feel like, I don't know, I feel like maybe the data doesn't bear this out,

but I feel like you see more, like I feel like Mike Mastakis is kind of the personification of this trend in baseball, where we're a little more, or baseball teams are a little more willing to, you know, take a potential defensive, hit because of defensive positioning because of the rise of strikeouts. And so, you know, something that you've seen a little bit more often is even like the Cody Bellinger, a guy who came up as a first baseman and moved off the position. Sure. No, absolutely.

Teams are more willing to take a defensive hit at more premium positions. But first base is still the easiest place to take that hit. So it's, I don't think we're going to, we're going to reach a point where first bases just doesn't have bats anymore like it's the defensive first position. There's there's always going to be it's always going to be an easy move to stick another interesting bat at first base. In this first base discussion and just in terms of younger players that are coming up at the position, I'll just throw out and Scott, I know that Alec Baum is someone that you really like. He's played third base to this point, but a lot of people suspect that he'll land at first base

because he's really not a great defensive third baseman. So just keep it. mind while we're talking about younger prospects, there's a chance that bomb lands at first base. And then, I don't know, I guess they figure out what to do with Reese Hoskins at that point. But that's a conversation for another day. Second base. So so far, we have Mahia. We have Cody Bellinger. Team scam has Wilson Ramos and Carlos Santana.

Second base. Scott, why don't you get started with your second base movie? Yes, Scott. Bring the hammer down, baby. Second base. I wish we could go DJ LaMayhew here, but he's 31. I'd even be willing to take Tommy Lestella here, but he's 31. So we're going with Robinson Canoe as our second baseman, 32 or older.

Take that, guys. How are you going to respond to that? We don't even need to hear their answer. We got this. Robinson Canoe. All of famer, if you ignore the PED stuff. drop the mic on Robinson Canoe, average 2.3 fantasy points per game last season. Chris, this gives us an opportunity, because obviously we're just going to win this position.

It gives us an opportunity to talk out who we wanted to choose because I sent you over a few different options. But for me, it comes down to probably Ozzy Albies or Glaber Torres. So do you have a lean between one of those two guys? So there's a little game theory involved because you could, possibly put Glaber Torres at shortstop as well. But you're not going to. He's not the pick at shortstop.

So it really does come down to specifically Ozzy Albies versus Glabertores. You guys aren't considering Keston Hura? Is he 24? They're all 23. All three of those guys are 23. Yeah, but like they don't, this isn't a dynasty draft.

This is just a... He's a little behind them, just because he's not as proven. I think the upside might be high. for Kest and Hero than any of the three. I'm sure there are people out there who would take Keston Hiro for those two. But for me, I think I go with Glaver Torres, and that might be surprising because I'm not the biggest Glaver Torres fan.

I just think there's a degree of safety in Glever Torres profile. Like I don't think he's going to hit 38 home runs again. You know, 11 of them coming against the Orioles. If you look, Hester, 13 of them coming against the Orioles. historically if you look at players who have hit 10 or more home runs against the same team in a given season their home run totaled the following season on average drops by 25%. It's actually quite stark. I think not a, I think 13 players have hit at least 11 home runs against a single team in a season. None of them have hit more total home runs of the following season. So it's something that just it doesn't seem quite sustainable, but he's going to hit 270 or better. He's, going to hit 30 home runs in a full season. So I would go with him over all these. I think there's a little bit more.

Upside. I don't know if, I actually think Glaber is the safer, lower variance play than always. It just strikes me as such a safe, like what he's done so far has just been so, you know, 20 home runs, 14 stolen bases, each of the past two seasons just has been so consistent. But, you have more fantasy points per game last year.

than Glaber. If you remember back to the 2018 season, the way that season actually went was very up and down. He was one of the best hitters in baseball for the first month or so. Then he was pretty miserable for a few months. So, you know, I think I still have a little bit of concern about Alby's ability to hit from the right side of the plate. And so, look, he's great. I just, and on an AEP, you know, Alby. Well, trade you Robinson Canoe for him. No, I'm going to pass. Although I think we should talk about Robinson Canoe. I think he's a better bounce back candidate than he gets credit for.

He was bad last season. But he still had a 328 expected Wobo, which isn't great, but is better than the 309 expected Wobah. But he had expected batting average was 280, expected slug was $4.50. Still had borderline elite exit velocity, borderline elite hard hit rate. Robinson Kano might still be good. I don't think so. Not great, but potentially good. Look, the guy's left for dead.

He's the 40th second basement off the board right now. ADP pick 326, according to Fantasy Pro. So, especially in like a deeper mixed league where you have a middle infielder, I can get behind the Robinson Cano is not done yet. But outside of that, you know, for example, if we were making a team of veterans versus youth, like I wouldn't want Robinson Cano as my second base. Well, no.

I'm just saying maybe he should be the, Maybe he should be the 29th second baseman drafted rather than the 40th. There you go. Adam, shortstop. Can you guys do a little bit better at the shortstop position? Hell no, we can't. In fact, we did even worse at shortstop. I think the best, like let's look at rankings, the best shortstop 32 or older. You know, let's just go to third base.

Let's go to third base. I think it's Brandon Crawford. Oh, no. who's going to even be better for our pitching, which is great because of his defense. But I don't think there's, I think we're learning a lesson about how middle infielder's age. This isn't for a sim, Adam. Elvis Andrews is 31, right? So close.

So close. Yeah. Not that I would be thrilled with him. Gene Seguera, is he? 31, I think. But this is, this is revealing, because we talk about it a lot with catcher. I feel like we should talk about it more at short stuff. It's not a position that ages well either.

the people who are still hitting well at that age generally aren't you know they've lost a step they're not able to defend it the same way so they get moved to another position and it's left with just a bunch of young guys there so it's it's not good it's not good and it's not unpredictable that trend that i talked about earlier doesn't really apply as much to shortstop shortstop shortstop is still viewed as and i think rightly so as the more irreplaceable defensive position on the infield. You can't really, it's a lot harder to shift your way into being good at shortstop because it's not just about the range. You have to have a strong arm and the athleticism to get the ball to first base with that strong arm. And so that's the one place I think we're going to see over the next decade or two where the defensive premium is still very high. Some of those guys might end up moving to first base. The shortstop position right now

is still ruled by, you know, a bunch of players that are 26, 27 years old, Lindor, Trevor Story, Tray Turner. But there is one shortstop that is still below 24 years old. Chris, that gives us the ability to dominate here.

And his name is... That's where you say his name, Chris. Fernando Franco. Oh. Fernando Tatis. Yeah. Fernando Tatis, I mean,

we've talked about him a ton. I think nobody on this podcast really likes him at his current ADP, but none of us, at least I don't necessarily feel all that great about not liking him. I kind of do, actually. I kind of do like him at that ADP.

Well, his ADP has to be a lot different in points versus Roto. Sure. I think in a points league, I'm not going to take him probably at all, somebody will take him earlier, but maybe like round four. But I think he's a top 18 pick in a Roto League. I know nobody else wants to go there,

but I'm willing to do it just because I know what happens with steals. You know, it's just, I don't know. There's so much potential to pass up there with Tati. So I acknowledge that he has to have better underlying skills at the plate. but, you know, if it happens, then I think a top 18 pick is perfectly fine for Tatis. I think top 12 is a no. And that's why I said I don't feel good

about not liking him there because, like, I think there's basically zero chance Fernando Tatis is a second rounder next year. I think his season either goes incredibly well and he's an obvious first rounder or he looks a little more like the underlying skill sets and we put him in like the fourth round. Well, just, I don't feel good about not liking him either because I think he's good.

I mean, he was a top prospect who came up and had this amazing rookie season. And obviously things could go very well from there, as you're saying. But like just a simple exercise would be of the players who are typically going in the first two rounds, who has the most downside. And I mean, my answer would be Tatis. And if that's your answer to that question, then it's pretty easy not to like him, relative to everyone else going around him. Yeah, but, you know, he's usually going right around Jose Ramirez. Can you really say that Jose Ramirez doesn't have as much or more downside when he basically went a 365 days of being, I mean, like a horrible hitter?

Yeah, that was, I can. I can. Because that seems like just such a statistical fluke that I have no real concerns of it happening again. I get what you're saying, and I could be wrong about that, but that's where my sensibilities fall. Yeah, he definitely has more downside than Freeman. He definitely has more downside than Aeronado. He has more downside than most players going,

I would say you're probably right. I would say the only player that I think has comparable downside is Ramirez, and I'm with you, Scott, that I don't really think he does, but I can't just ignore how bad Jose Ramirez was for that stretch. It's simply the stolen. basis. Like he's, Freddie Freeman, maybe he'll still 10 bases, maybe. Or Aronado, maybe four. You know, so it's the, it's the skill scarcity there and everything else that you like about Tatis. But, okay, getting off track, Brandon Crawford versus Tatis, it's close. I guess I'm willing to

give this one to you. If you guys give us the next toss up, I'll give you shortstop. Fernando Tatis, for those wondering, Adam, you mentioned that you can see yourself taking him in the fourth round of a head-to-head points league. Well, the head-to-head points mock that we did a couple of weeks ago, he went with the first pick of the fifth round. So at that point, it seems like a pretty good value. Again, he did average 3.8 fantasy points per game last season. And I have noticed that Tatis to me seems a lot like Javier Baez,

where he might just wind up being this statistical anomaly that just has really bad plate discipline, but can kind of outproduce what his underlying numbers say he should, based on like raw talent and just being like a freak athletically. So I'm just going to keep that in the back of my mind as like the possibility for Fernando Tati's that he's just basically like Javier Baez 2.0 and maybe even better than Javier Baez. But the third base position, Scott, there's a lot of third baseman. I feel like you guys should be able to compete pretty well here at third base.

We have a good third baseman. We didn't exactly have a lot of options. but Josh Donaldson is a good one and one you in particular, Frank, like a lot. He'd be even better if you were putting, if you were the one putting this team together, you'd be even more excited about Josh Donaldson than I am. Are you trying to tug on my heartstrings?

My Josh Donaldson heartstrings here? Is that you trying to do that? Yes, I guess. So, yeah, I would say so. I guess. Like, I think, I think, think he's I probably tear him with the 10 third basement ahead of them, uphead of him.

They're in the same tier, roughly. But he is at the back of that tier for me. And, you know, if things go wrong with Josh Donaldson this year, I'm not sure I'm going to like who we have filling in for him. It would be. I guess it would be Justin Turner, which isn't so bad. Not terrible. Not in a point.

Josh Donaldson. Scott and I had a long conversation last week about Josh Donaldson. versus Chris Bryant and just how, you know, that tier of third basement, it's basically from Donaldson to Suarez, Matt Chapman, Mike Moustakis, Chris Bryant. Like there's this whole, this big old glob of third basement that we all kind of rank similarly. I have Chris Bryant the lowest there. Much lower than Scott just because I think, I don't think he has the upside of some of the other names that are in this group.

I don't know what Chris Bryant did to you, Frank. In going through my position previews, I originally did them like a breakdown based on Scott's top 12. Now that we've got two top 12s, I decided to include yours as well. And you've got Chris Bryant 15th at third base in Roto. And I just don't know, like, how did he hurt you? I've actually never owned Chris Bryant. So he's never actually hurt me. But in Roto, he just doesn't stand out anywhere.

I don't, like the difference between him and like Javier Baez is I think Javier Baez could actually like excel in certain categories. I think the only category Chris Bryant might excel in is run scored. I mean, home runs for a third baseman. He's probably going to give you around 30, which is fine, but he just doesn't excel. His RBIs have been low the past two seasons and he's expected to lead off once again. So he's not going to contribute RBIs. He's fine in home runs.

Doesn't really excel there. It doesn't give you steals. and his batting average is probably like 275. He hasn't hit boring. He's only hit below 282 in the last four seasons in 2018 when he was hurt most of the year.

You know who Chris Bryant reminds me of? I think you're being unfair to our guy Chris Bryant. You know who Chris Bryant reminds me of? Who does Chris Bryant remind you of? Jose Abraeu, except it's RBI instead of runs. Yeah, Abraeus getting. Scott.

But I think Bryant has been playing through injuries and might actually be capable of putting together a really good year, which he's already done. I mean, but it's been a while. I mean, he's, he's done that three times in the last four years. He's been elite one year. But he's been. Really that good. Like 281, 282 with 31 home runs, 77 RBIs, 108 runs, 408 runs, four steals.

It sounds really good. It was the number 11 third baseman. You know, it's just not that. Good. But I think he's... Look at how close the three third basemen were ahead of him. Like, among all the entire player pool, they were like separated by four or five spots. It was just a handful of spots separating Bryant and like the three third

basement ahead of them. Yeah, but fine. Even if it's like the number, he was the number eight third baseman. Is that a big impact player? It's good. Yeah. Well, look,

I think there's probably 15 impact players at third base. Yeah. It's probably... I think we're arguing, different things, but I think Brian's capable of putting up better numbers. He was a top 50 player overall. There you go. You know, like in a roto league, at least, I'm not sure about points.

But a rowe league, even higher than points. Now, he was. Yeah, points is really good. He was 11th or 12th in third base, but third base is also an unusually deep position where you might be using several of those guys ahead of him at different positions. And so, you know, we've gotten completely off track. He's 28 years old, by the way. He doesn't fit.

But I just, I needed to call Frank out. You can't, you can't disrespect Chris Bryant like that when you're the Mani Machado guy. All right. Mani Machado, greater sign, Chris Bryant. Chris, I realized I didn't send you over a third baseman before the show, but I think this one's pretty obvious. We're taking Raphael Devers, right? 23 years old. Yeah, he's got to be the only, I mean, the only other option would be Vladimir

Garero, but that's, you know, very much wishful thinking. Rafael Devers has already done what we hope Vladimir Guerrero will do, which is make the leap from, you know, being really a very pedestrian hitter his first two seasons to becoming a truly elite hitter last season. I'm a little bit skeptical that he'll keep it up, but I don't want to overstate that. I think he's incredibly talented. And I think he'll be very good. I certainly, I think it's more likely he's better than Vladimir Guerrera than the opposite.

Rafael Devers averaged 3.9 fantasy points per game last season at the third base position that ranked third behind only Anthony Rendon and Alex Bregman. So I would say another feather in the cap for the, for team crank here. At third base, we have Devers and team scam had Josh Donaldson, the outfield. I would say probably another direction where we're going to take this one home with, I mean, considering Ronald Acuna, Juan Soto, those are the top two very easily.

And then Chris, I mean, I think there are a few other outfielder that you can kind of throw into discussion as the third outfielder we would choose, but I'm going to go with Austin Meadows. That's the one I would go with as well. I know in your rankings, you have Austin Meadows and Eloy Jimenez very close, right?

You have Eloy like 15th. Yes, I'm right. Pretty excited about both of those players. But I think, for one, we've seen Austin Meadows do it for the full season, whereas Elo Jimenez really only did it for about a month last year. He was kind of mediocre up until the middle of August. Austin Meadows, that's a feather in the cap of the scouts over stats people, because Austin Meadows minor league production has been, you know,

especially over the last few years, pretty mediocre, You know, pretty, he was a guy who I just didn't believe in last year because, well, you look at what he did at AAA and it wasn't anything to write home about. But he really put a very nice season together last year. There wasn't much about it that seemed unsustainable. And it's another case where a young left-handed hitter took a big step forward by just not getting killed by lefties. Team scam. How do you think? in the outfield conversation?

We're worse, but I think it's like a third base where, like, we hold our own here. We hold our own. I don't think you're going to completely trounce us in the outfield, especially if you're talking the points format where we don't have to worry so much about stolen bases. Our outfield, J.D. Martinez, who, you know, been a first rounder in recent years, more like a second rounder this year. Charlie Blackman, who's kind of dropped a couple rounds this year, though I don't know that he necessarily deserves to. He's still a stud in many respects. And then Michael

Brantley, who must start player, especially in a points league. It's a pretty, pretty good, group here, pretty good threesome. Not as good as yours, but pretty good. It's pretty good, but unfortunately, I don't think Charlie Blackman is playing any games in Corres Field this year, so that doesn't weaken it. But if we were just doing this as like a normal circuit, normal situation, J.D. Martinez, Charlie Black, and Michael Brantley is pretty damn good. It's pretty damn good. Would you want to replace Blackmun if he wasn't playing at Coors Field? Is that how far you would move him down? Because who would be next? No, because I think it would have to be Tommy Fam. I don't know if I know. And no, I wouldn't move him down below. Okay. So I have Tommy Fam. Well, this is a Roto League. I don't think I have them that much lower in points. I have him around 20, the 20 to 25 range we're talking about. Would you move Blackman?

down that far. No. No. Okay. I wanted either, but it seemed like last time we talked about the prospects of Blackman outside of Coors Field, you seemed like even more but down. He's going to be in a good hitting environment, and I think he'll do better than his road OPS, because his road OPS is dreadful, just dreadful year after year. He had one great year, but.

Yeah, one great year, but he's not a dreadful hitter. I understand what Chris has said about. It's tough to transition from Chorus going on the road. But I do think he would take a serious hit, but not. not to the Tommy fam level. Like I would put him behind Giancarlo Stanton, who I was hoping was 32,

but he is not. So if that could have them ranked very similarly, fam and Stan, Matt. Yeah, well, I know,

you're the low guy on, on Fanon. On Stanton, rather. I don't know. I think Frank's actually lower. On Stanton? I think so.

In terms of, I have my Roto ranks ahead in front of me. I have him at 28, I'll feel they're 28, John Carlstontonton. That is. Roto?

Pretty well. You guys are, that's insane. You guys are gonna. Frank, get out of here. This is, like, that's like you're trying to make yourself look bad in the final year rankings on Fantasyprose.com. That is somebody who's waking. Like, like Fernando Tatis in the second round,

there's almost no chance John Carlos Stanton's going to be the number 28 outfielder this season. He's either going to be like 57th or he's going to be seven. Well, you're hedging your bet, obviously. But you're hedging your bet like a coward. You rank it him 28th. You're thinking you rank him 28th at Outfield. You're thinking baseball's not going to be played this year, so I don't even have to watch how bad this prediction is.

I assume every projection system hedges its bets. But like, but more seriously, like there's, you don't, I don't want to assume, but I assume you don't think John Carlos Stan is the 28th best hitter at Alfield. No, it's other factors. that are in play. Like, you've got to think he's, like, at worst, top 15? Well, that's assuming health.

I mean... Right, right. That's what I said. Just in terms of his skills and his value as a hitter. Yeah, he would be a top 20 outfielder, just based on skill. Like, what he can do if he stays healthy. I mean, obviously, it depends how you rank. Some people rank

players assuming health for everybody. And if that's the case, then, yeah, I would have Stanton higher. But I do like to take you know, pass injuries, team context into account when ranking. And I think the depth that the Yankees have, and especially if we're talking about playing as many games in a shortened style season in a compact season where we might have doubleheaders, like, I don't think you're going to see Stan in both games of a double header.

Like if the Yankees were playing double headers. And that's, I don't know if he's going to play every day just in general anyway. That's fair. I just, I don't, like, I don't see a world in which Eloy Jimenez 13, spots ahead of him at Outfield makes sense. Like that is the personification of the mystery box versus boat thing. You are hoping in your wildest dreams that Eloi Jimenez becomes John Carlos Stanton.

Yeah, but but nobody's hoping, nobody's thinking like I agree with you, Chris, that they're too low on Stanton, but the whole point is that Frank doesn't think John Carlos Stanton is John Carlos Stanton anymore. See, I don't. That I don't, I see the injury thing. I don't see any reason to think he's not. not drawn Carlos Stan anymore. Well, his, particularly if you're talking about a points league, if you look at what he did in

his first year with the Yankees, it was like 3.1 points per game, which is pretty, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, he wasn't a standout in his first year with the Yankees in a points league. Even going back to his Marlins years and leaving out the MVP season, he was usually like at 3.5, 3.6, that's a big difference. And I'm having trouble figuring out because the strikeout rate from his MVP season went back to normal. It went back to where it was in previous years with the Marlins, which is something you've brought up before. And he was in a much better lineup. The runs and RBI were there. So what happened to cause his point per game production

to drop so drastically that one year with the Yankees? I mean, the thing about that year was that he was awesome through August and then he played her all of September. And it sunk his numbers. but that's that's kind of why Frank doesn't rank them that high. I think you're a little bit. I don't know. We've seen no skills erosion from him. And so at some point it's just injuries. And we've gone over this ad nauseum.

But I just, I think you guys are way too long, and John Carlis, Dan. I feel like the points, I feel like the home run production must have slowed, right? That must have been it. 38 in one of the rare seasons where he hit, that is stayed healthy.

It was pretty low. it's still pretty overwhelming from him. He changed leagues, his walk rate was down a little bit. Like, this is the problem. We saw him one year

after he changed leagues, which is difficult, going to the more difficult league. And then we didn't get to see him in 2019, but the underlying skill sets, how hard he hit the ball, all that stuff, the things that make John Carlos Stanton,

John Carlos Stanton, were still there. And in the limited time we saw him last year, those things were still there as well. And so, for me, it's just, if the healthy floor is as high as it is, and we know what the ceiling is,

even if we don't think the ceiling is 2017, we know the ceiling is top five outfield. Hopefully. We don't know if that. I don't think there's any question the ceiling is top five. Okay. So you think it's strictly a matter of health. That's the only fact of you're working.

And I can't see any argument for Joey Gallo ahead of John Carlos Stan. Another one who has had a lot of trouble staying healthy himself missed a bunch of time last season doesn't seem to get dinged for that in the same way he's six years younger i have joey gallo 29th so for what it's worth uh i don't like either of those players uh but chris um feel free to uh to send in your rankings if you want to we could do a rank damn he called me out i don't like doing rankings frank i like telling other people their rankings are wrong.

This is a very good critic. He's just a professional critic. At this point, we have about five minutes left in the show to talk about all of our pitchers. So questions will be on tomorrow's show. Again, this has been my issue. And we have four people on here is getting to emails. But tomorrow, we will.

I promise I'll try my best. Fantasy baseball at cbsi.com tomorrow. Starting pitchers, you guys kind of revealed them at the top of the show. I think it's fair to say. Is it just the youth favors the hitters and the veterans favor the pitchers? Because that seems to be the direction where we've kind of landed. I don't think it's as simple as that.

I think the reason there are so many, so many of the high-end pitchers are old is because of the way pitchers are brought up now. It's changed. So they're treated much more delicately breaking into the league. and some of them may never get a chance to handle an ACE workload, why these older guys have been grandfathered in. And so you see a lot more guys who give you, like, if they happen to have, if they happen to be dominant still,

they're also getting the big workload that sets them apart even more. So it's kind of, I'm not sure that we're going to see as deep of a class moving forward as we see. right now at the top of the pitcher ranks. So our pitchers were Scher, Verlander, DeGrom, Kershaw, and Morton. And you're talking about... No, we took Granky out. We're too good for Granky.

But you are talking about some of the all-time greats here, but I actually am curious to know what your pitching staff is, so go for it. So the starters that we wound up with were Shane Bieber, Jack Flaherty, Chris Paddock, Mike Soroka, and Zach Gallen, unless you kind of wanted to change anyone in there, Chris. But I feel like that was a pretty obvious top five here. Yeah, my only question would be, I didn't realize all of those guys were under 25 for the 2020 season.

Because that was an issue that I had in putting together my all-decade team for the 2020s was finding young pitchers who had established themselves as good pitchers and who were young enough that I could conceivably see them being good for six to eight years. And, you know, most of those guys when I was looking them up were already 25. Like Walker Bueller, I think is 25 or 26. Yeah, Walker Bueller. Well, he noticed he didn't name Walker Bueller. Yeah.

He just missed the age cut off here. Great, great this trade. We give you Max Scherzer and Brandon Crawford. you give us Jack Flaherty and Ferdatatis. Yeah, it seems like an A for you. We'll throw in Canoe. Seems like an A for you. Okay.

Their pitching's still pretty good at them. It's not bad. It's pretty good. Ours is definitely better, but it's, yeah. Yours is good. I'd be interested to know what the pitching would look like if we went 10 deep, you know? I think they might have problems. Yeah.

I think we might have problems too. Yeah. Well, I don't know. We got eight pretty easily because we throw Carlos Carrasco in there. Sure, sure. And then probably like Lance Lynn, right? Granky, you would have you Darvish, who's 33 years old. Do most people realize you Darvish is 33?

Yeah, he's on our other. So one of the things about that is just that the guys who make it to 30 as starting pitchers and the guys who make it to 30 as good starting pitchers, like Scott said it they've they've proven they can do it and so you know like they've proven that they can do it without getting hurt especially and so when you're looking at at least the very next season it actually does make sense to to push older pitchers up your board relative to young pitchers because you know there was this theory uh in the early 2000s i'm looking at the article

it was from baseball prospectus by will carroll and Nate Silver and they looked at the what it's called the injury nexus. And it's basically like you want your young pitchers to hit a certain innings and age threshold before you can say whether they're durable enough to hang to hold up to a starting pitching workload. And it's, you know, it's, you have to get to like 24, 25 before you can really know for sure.

The attrition rate for 21, 22 year old starting pitchers is really high. And so that's a big part of it. it is that we just see a lot of really talented young pitchers fall apart early in their careers. And if that was early 2000s, I would imagine that's been pushed back. The age has been pushed back to later now just because they're being handled more delicately on the way up. I mean, you can't really know if they can handle it until you give them a chance to handle it. Yeah. And so that's what makes this a difficult exercise for pitching is that those young guys, there's an incredible.

amount of talent at that age. But when you look at the younger guys with that talent, it's guys who are coming back from Tommy John surgery like Michael Copac, who haven't proven themselves. It's only thrown like 120 innings. Yeah, it's guys like Jesus Lazzardo, who we all love and who we all think can be one of the 10 best pitchers in baseball. But he's thrown six in a start twice in his entire career. Is he one of your RPs? Yeah. Yeah. We're all about the sparse. We have Jesus Lazzardo and Julio Urias. Urias. Urias.

We have Carasco and Yates. Yeah, if we're doing points specifically, we would have to do Carasca. I wanted to get Chapman in there because Chapman's obviously a very high-end closer and he qualifies for us. So just want to shine a light on him too. But if we're going points scoring, I think we have to have Carasco in over him and pair him with Yates, right?

I'm sorry, who did you guys say you had? Yeah, Lazzardo and Urias. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think we crush you. That true? I think so. I mean, look, if everybody plays to their best case scenario, then no, we don't crush you. But I think having Julio Arias and Jesus Lazzardo who just haven't done it, you know,

I would much rather have Carasco and Yates. If we get 200 combined innings from Julio Urias and Jesus Lazzardo this season, my assumption is that would be the first time that's ever happened for them in a single calendar year. 100? 200, sorry, 200, I mean. Combined. Yeah. Well, I would guess they...

Like, add them both up. Have they not each und individually done 100 yet? I don't know if they've done it in the same year, is what I mean. Okay. Yeah. That's a very specific circumstance that Chris has set up there. Well, but it's just, it's highlighting that they've both struggled to stay healthy. I like both of them a lot.

but they're being pushed up draft boards to a point where, you know, there's less value there than you would hope for for guys who are as deeply unproven as both of them are. So ultimately, you guys won starting pitchers. Let's just say we give you all pitching. You won relief pitchers, you won catcher, and then we wound up taking first base, second base, shortstop, third base, outfield utility. assume is. Oh, we didn't do utility. Nelson Cruz. Nelson Cruz, you're in Alvarez, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of think I'd probably win that too. They're not that much. I, well, I would say,

like, let me ask you, if you, if I could guarantee you that both of them stay healthy, who would you rather have Alvarez or Cruz? Nelson Cruz. I'm with Frank. I'd take Alvarez. I'm with, new teams. I'm with Chris. Let's go Cruz. Crad them. But I don't know, man. I mean, Nelson Cruz was a borderline first round. hitter last season. So was Alvarez? Yeah, Alvinos is even better, unbelievably. Yeah, well, whatever. I'm back on the other two. No, I'm not

still on Cruz. Chris is going to work on his rankings, but that'll do it for today's show. Can I just say the funny thing, like, not only is Nelson Cruz the utility because he's actually only eligible there, but he would have, of all the hitters available in the pool, if I were just sticking one of utility, it would have been Nelson Cruz. And it may have been Alvarez for you guys. I don't know. But it wasn't just, like I wasn't doing that D.H. specific. I was treating that as that's open to any, any player, anywhere. And it would have been Cruz for me.

Glaber versus Yoran is interesting. Well, we've got Glaber at second. So it'd be Albies or, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll be, yeah. I probably would still take Alvarez. I think so. That's tough.

There you go. You can leave us now, Frank. Fantasy baseball today for Adam, Chris, and Scott. I am Frank. We'll talk to you again on Wednesday. Bye-bye. I don't know.