F*ck Buddies: A Sex and Dating Advice Podcast - Episode 341 - Gooner Dad Fads

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

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Let's get him. Give me. But this week we are going to talk about father has a picture of a furry in a sexual position as his tick tock profile picture. What do I do? Dude looks like a lady. Why do women get the ick when they find out I have an Android? And don't be afraid to catch feelings. Oh man. Those are both, those are all lyrics to songs.

I love that. Throw R.A. It's comp. My 24 year old female father, 45 year old male, has a picture of a furry in a sexual position as his TikTok profile picture. How do I approach this? Oh my God, I can't stop laughing, but I'm also crying from embarrassment from this. My dad likes to send TikToks to us all the time. And at first his user had no profile or anything, but then my sister sends me a picture of a notification, TikTok center. This account

sent you videos or something like that. And it's a picture of a profile with a sexualized furry. It took us a week to find out it was my dad. He sent me a video on TikTok snitched that it was his account lol. Me and my sister were going to ignore it because what are we supposed to do? But then he realized he also sends videos to his friends and family. And we should probably say something. Any advice on how to approach this? It is so awkward because we're not really close to dad either. This dad is out of control.

This TikToking furry. dad is out of control. Tick tocking furry like the I like it was I you know what I was like on board with it being like maybe this gooner dad is just like trolling his kids by like having like cringiest picture he could find because he's on tick tock He knows of furries. He's the thing is the thing is I don't think you're allowed go on tick tock as a dad This man's been radicalized. Yes. It seems the furries got him before Andrew Tate did, which is good, I guess. But the best thing is the the ending of being like, we're not super close with that. What is dad sending you?

What are the tics? Is it just sort of like dad talk videos of being like, so lucky to have two beautiful daughters or whatever? Right. Like I do. I do really want to know, like, is it like, oh, here's dogs or is it furry content or is it unhinged shit that we send each other on TikTok and stuff? Like what is we need examples of what he's sending you? Second, it does seem to imply that he has a second account. Yeah, this is this is his that's the secret guner furry account that he

forgot to. It's like when Republicans are like congressmen forget to like log out of their like POC account they have that's like I love Trump he's good for me in my future and you're like god damn it Ted Cruz. Yeah like that's the thing I thought oh no it's a dad let loose on TikTok. He's silly boy his brains too pliable. He's probably made, his brain's too pliable. He's probably made a mistake with this furry thing, but no, if he has the wherewithal to make a second account, that's his wank account.

That's the thing, he's training an algorithm very specifically if this is his vibe. Yeah, and I guess he's just getting mixed up and sending them to you, unless, is joke? Is he a funny dad? That's my thing, is his dad, like, is he a funny dad? That's my thing. Is this dad, like, is he a meme master? Yeah, yeah.

Is he a meme dad? Cause like, if so, this is very fucking funny. Is there a TikTok trend where you change your profile to a sexual furry to troll your kids? Because the thing is you always see, oh, the cinnamon challenge that the teens are doing. Oh, the sleepy chicken challenge that the teens are doing. Teens aren't the only ones that can get in on these trends. It's true. And that the teens are doing all the sleepy chicken challenge that the teens are doing. Teens aren't the only ones that can get in on these trends. And maybe, maybe the dads are doing stuff that we're not privy to.

Although let's take a minute here. My Spotify. Okay. It hit me the other day with a made for you. Yeah. 2000's dad rock. Yeah. And it was just like Lincoln park and like slipknot and system of a down.

I guess that's what I listened to when I was a young boy. Yeah. And I'm not a dad. You're not a dad. I'm a young boy. You are dad aged. I'm not. That age. I'm not. I'm not.

Here's another you want you ready for this to boggle your noodle in the 90s. The music my dad listened to in the 70s classic rock the gap between that period of time is smaller than the gap between now and the 90s The 90s is more classic rock than the 70s was in the 90s So I'm gonna go eat this entire thing of bubble wrap and just end it now. No, it's audio nightmare That would be Fucking love it as I slowly kill myself by choking. Yeah. Damn, I don't even know if I can go back.

OK, think of the furry dad. It'll bring you back. Oh, OK. I love the idea that there is a subsection of Tick Tock of dads who are teaching other dads how to be the most menace to their children of being like, guys, I figured it out. Here's here's a new thing that we're doing. Make a new account, goon it up with some furry porn, and then send your kid TikToks that way.

R and D, A, D. Research and development and development. Cause it's dad, D, A, D. I just like the idea that like, cause it's not on my like- Dadfads. I'm Dadfads. I'm not on TikTok for dad content, but dads are on there for dad content. Well apparently every content is dad content for us now, isn't it? Yeah, except for the kids content, which is mostly tick-tock. Yeah, I I would I would love to know and the thing is right This is dangerous because you need to talk to us a weekend. All right, and I don't care about your well-being

I'm sorry It's about us But you need to be ready that for your dad to be like I just love jerking it to these furry guys Lola Button was a bunny. I was Button lowly lowly lowly button. What is what is her name? He's choked Lola bunny Lola bunny. How did you get lost you had Lola? You had but it was just all she is a bunny. She gets me real flustered. All right, she's my profile picture It was a it was an awakening for him She is a bunny. She gets me real flustered. All right. She's my profile picture.

It was a it was an awakening for him. When he took you guys to see the liberals removed her thick and juicy double these giant tits, her giant rabbit tits. She knew. Yeah, he knew. Maybe that's what like the green Eminem was like step one. That was that was the door being cracked. So are we saying the Republican, the right wings of America are a gateway drug to? Furryism I think so damn I think that's what I'm so I want to know like is it a

Costumed furry like a real-life photo of is it a really is is it like a Lola bunny or is it like oh? Is it his oh, see is it a ho see is it a fursona? Yeah, is it dad's oh see dad's furs? Like there's there's so many possibilities and each one has startlingly different like results, you know what I mean? And like I want to know what sonic what are we talking about when we say sexually explicit? Yeah, like I just have a whang out or like yeah Gaping is it are they just kind of like bent over like what is the could it be? Viewed through the eyes of a naive dad as just like... Funny?

A cool... a cool bunny or something, right? Like, what if like... is it Sonic content? I know Sonic content has some pretty fucked up shit. What if he's like... because he's probably our age. He is our age. No, he's not. He's 10 years older than us-ish. Okay. But like, maybe as a teen he liked Sonic?

Yeah. Probably a little old for that. I don't know. No, you could be into Sonic. Sonic has been going for... No, I know. I'm just thinking like when he was, you know, 15 to 20 was probably when Sonic came out. You know? Yeah.

That just seems a little old, but that's fine. I don't know, man. I need to know. And this is the worst part of my job. This is what I'm going to say. The worst part is the not knowing. Yeah. You know, I need pictures.

I need information. What we need is we need to see the not knowing. Yeah. You know, I need pictures. I need information. What we need is we need to see the dad's profile picture. Yeah, that is that is a must. We need a sampling, a playlist of the TikToks that he sent you, both from his his unknown. Is I going to write this down and I am going to message them and we're going to get answers here. So we're going to need to know what they sent.

Yeah, what they sent like a collection of like, and are they different from what he sends from his unknown account? Because I think that is very important We need a we need a picture of this profile pic for sure or at least a description of it And then we also need to know if they've had the conversation I would like to know yeah how that went and look if you want to have that conversation with your dad getting into actual advice No how that went. And look, if you want to have that conversation with your dad, getting into actual advice. No. I think you just I think you casually go like, hey, dad, are you aware of like, where did you get that picture? Where did that picture come from, dad? And if he's just like, oh, I just Googled like hot bunny or like,

that's it's own chat. He's like, he's like, well, you know, our last name is Wolf. And I thought like Wolfman would be like a cool name or something. So I just searched like, you know badass wolf and I found this picture It's like not knowing that it's a like jacked a shit sort of yeah What he thought was a third arm is in fact, yeah, it was oh man. I thought it was his tail Oh, no, I was wonder why his tail was pulsing going the other way. Yeah shooting out little wolf Siemens So it's like, you know, that's a I think you bring it up if you really want to.

Or just casually be like, Dad, is this you? Is this your account? That's weird. I thought you used this account and like don't ever mention. Or he can be like, oh, no. Or like I keep getting like random messages from this account, but it's got this weird like furry sex picture. At which point your dad's going to be like, what's a furry sex picture? And run to the bathroom to find more.

Or he will be like, what's a furry sex picture? And then run to the bathroom even faster when he realized what he's done. Yeah, yeah. It's, I'd say even odds that he are, I'd say 50% chance it's a mistake. And he's just being a gormless dad on the internet. He just bumbling around.

He made a silly I think it's a 25% chance. This is his furry gooner account Yeah, and a 25% chance he's doing this to make all your lives miserable in the most fun dad way of that I hope so that is that's my that's my dad energy if I would be on the cutting edge of Cringe content and I would be yeah, I like that would content. And I would be. Yeah. I like that. And I would, I would harass my children. There would be no end. There would be no safe place from my children, from my impishness.

They, they would fucking hate you, but you'd be a very successful influencer. And a lot of families would be closer as a result of what you do. Our friends, kids would love us. Yes. Yes. Yes. And when our kids are 20 or older, they will love us. They will look back fondly and being like, I think looking back at- No, they'll raise their kids with such tenderness

and genuine like emotional openness in protest of just the sheer amount of furry porn they've been, I don't know. Yeah. Thank you for this this this is a wonderful gift in trying times I know we didn't really help you but but we will I think you helped us I'm sometimes we say we'll follow up on things sometimes we do sometimes we don't sometimes we hear more this one I'm going to bear down I'm going to try to get answers no maybe maybe don't use the word bear down on

I'm using it because if she won't answer me or dad will. Her dad will find this. We have to have quick keywords. Horny Sonic bent over Wolf Alpha pulsing rabbit pussy. What are we doing right now?

These are all the keywords for put them in the description. Oh, gotcha. You're OK. Sorry, I was thinking of I got lost in the sauce there. This is from a deleted user. Don't like my boyfriend is a femboy. My 25 year old female partner, 25 year old male,

recently told me he really likes dressing up as a fem and wanted to include it in our private moments. Problem is, I really don't like it. I don't find him attractive, especially shaved. I don't like how he acts a very cliche, sexy girl pitch voice. And he wants me to dominate him. We've talked about this plenty of times, tried it, and he knows it's not my thing. At first, I really liked, or I really tried to play it cool and act like I liked it,

but it was killing my mood and it weighed down on me. So I told him, but he just sighed and asked me to make an effort. Maybe I'll like it. I really don't know what to do now. If you don't enjoy it, you say, hey, because it sounds like you have tried it. That's the thing. So you've gone above and beyond. You gave it a, it sounds like a pretty strong college try.

Yeah. And really, when it comes to kinks, that's the most, that's all you can ask for from a partner. Yeah. Cause you definitely could just shut it down before you even did anything, which there's nothing wrong with that. If it's not your thing, you're never, you know, required to do anything you're not comfortable with. You gave it a try. And I think you got to say like, Hey, look, I tried this. I know you're really into it. And I'm sorry, but it really isn't my thing. Like, I don't really want to do it anymore. And then just be like, I know you're very into it. Is this going to be an issue? And like, try to have a frank discussion on like, is that deal breaker? Will they be honest with you?

Who knows? But then the next time if they bring it up, be like, hey, we already had this conversation. I actually, I'm not into it. Again, if this is a deal break for you, I'm sorry, but. Yeah. You know, and just try to be honest without being demeaning or aggressive

and like make sure that they know you're not kink shaming them and that you're not like, you don't think they're any lesser or whatever, just that it's not your vibe and it's taking you out of the moment. Yeah, I think a lot of people, specifically from what I was reading in terms of like the questions that I find and every time this kind of comes up, it seems like there's almost an expectation from the men who want to to perform as as like a femme

that they expect every woman to want to dominate them. They expect that every woman wants to be dominant and wants to treat them poorly and dominate them. And it's a weird phenomena that I've seen, and even in the comments of this one, where I was just like, it's funny because the assumption usually is the other way around. It's usually assumed that men want to dominate women

and that when the roles are reversed, that assumption also gets flipped of being like the woman should always be dominated. And it just interested me that that like the the people who want to participate in being a femboy. And I don't know if that's the agreed upon term. I don't know. I'm not sure. So if I'm using it because it was in the question because of the question and that that I'm hoping is what he has described it as yeah but if it's not I'm happy to adjust my language yeah upon education yeah it's

interesting that like the femboys are almost like we can't say that. There's like an assumption that like the second it's brought up, that whoever their partner is will really like, will want to dominate them. Like that is like the like almost the go to being like, great. Now you do this. And people are like, well, like, why would you think that? I want to like swap roles if that's like, yeah, if your what the dynamic is, it's like, the dynamic is. It's very strange to me that that was the assumption. Yeah. I think just knowing that you have done more than you ever needed to do, which was by giving

this a shot, there's nothing wrong with not being into it and you need to not let your partner make you feel that way. I do think it is always smart to give as much like kindness as you can, because it is a scary thing to open up and give someone like let them into your kink and you could definitely feel defensive or judged or like belittle, talk down to, et cetera, et cetera, when being rejected.

And I think, especially with something like this, which is so like counter to how, you know man or man to be you know society is like oh you can't be that you know to be effeminate to be whatever like so it could very well manifest in a way where they think that you're like engaging in in shitty practices by not doing it which I also think is really unfair like you're allowed to have your preferences yeah so just try to be kind when you're letting them down and hopefully they'll be a good partner, but tell them you understand if it's a deal breaker,

if that's something that they need. And if not, hopefully they'll be honest if they say that they can move forward. And there are other things, like, look, if you're interested in terms of like satisfying your partner's kink and this isn't exactly doing it, you do list a couple of things that like you're not into. You don't like when he shaved.

So maybe ask like here. Here are some things like here. I don't like this current, you know, version of this. Here are some things I'm not a big fan of. It's like I don't like when you shave. I find you. I don't know if she's talking about face or genitals. I'm not sure like pubic or facial.

I'm not sure what she's talking about. No, this is interesting because we've talked about like having like hair preferences, just kind of in general. And we've definitely come down on the side of like, let them do what they want. And if you have like, oh, you can't be shaving or you have to be shaving, you're kind of a dick. So in this situation, is it fair for her to be like,

I don't like when you shave? It depends on if he's only shaving in the persona. Like if he is usually shaven or unshaven, and then when he wants to do it, it'll be like, hey, maybe it might be easier for me to transition into this thing if there isn't such a divide. I don't know, that's a good point. That's just like, I get where you're coming from.

And in a way, I totally agree. But in another way, it's like, it's kind of contrary to other advice we've given, reshaving. It's like, I think maybe that's a weird one to be, you know. Yeah, that's a good point. It's all tricky, you know what I mean? And it's, look, it's also like-

Maybe instead of pointing out what you don't like, point out the things you do like. So if you're like, oh, you know, I don't mind dominating him, you know what I mean? Or like, you don oh, I, you know, I don't mind dominating him. You know what I mean? Or like, you don't mind aspects of that. Or I don't mind when he wears the clothes. That's fine. Maybe point out the things you can compromise on. You know what I mean?

I'm being like, oh, I actually don't mind if you do X, Y and Z, as opposed to being like, don't do X, Y, you know. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing, but you're flipping it to be more positive. And alternatively, like you, if you are heterosexual and you started dating a man. Yes. And they want to act and perform more effeminate and feminine and look less like a man. It's like if you're not attracted to women

and he wants to present more as a woman, that's understandable. That's understandable. Like I like I really want to stress it. I'm not trying to push any sort of like transphobic, like, you know, but people are into what people are into. Right. Like, I don't think there's any harm in if someone wants to present themselves

however they want, you aren't there. There isn't like an obligation or an expectation that like your sexuality should shift to match that. Yeah. Right. Like, I think the only obligation is that you don't become a shithead. Yeah. Obligation or an expectation that like your sexuality should shift to match that yeah, right? Like the I think the only obligation is that you don't become a shithead Yeah, I mean like if you if you aren't into a thing That's fine

If you start to judge someone based on that or be shitty to the end result or like weaponize that that that's when you're being A shithead if you're just not sexually into it. That's fine Yeah, you know Which again is why I like I want to stress because I think it's always like a hard thing when kink is involved and like, it's very vulnerable and raw. But I think in instances like this, where there are kind of other issues of play too, not necessarily, but like there are political things linked to it. So it could be unfair. And also maybe some of your prejudices are playing in, like, that's the thing I would, I would also like for you to maybe examine because it's like, do you feel like, oh, your partner isn't being masculine now?

And that's a turnoff for you. But is it actually or is it just a thing society is kind of telling you? You should. Yeah. You know what I mean? Or is it a matter of like you're attracted to men and he is starting to look less like a man and acting more, you know, traditionally? And it's like, yeah, I'd understand that. It's like, I've had conversations with friends or people who are transphobic or who push and be like,

well, would you ever hook up with a trans woman? Like, yes. However, the caveat there is I don't like penises. I'm not attracted to penises and I don't want to be involved with a penis because I am straight. So if there is a penis involved, I probably won't pursue a sexual relationship with that person because that's not the sexuality

that I hold. I'm not, you know what I mean? But like if they are post-op or whatever, yeah, I don't give a fuck. Like, yeah, I'm not judging someone based on a, like a label, you know what I mean? It's not like, oh, I like you and we're getting on and I find you attractive. Oh, and I find out this label. Oh no, now you're worthless to me. That's when you're a shithead. You know what I mean? Like if that's the thing that's changing my view,

just the label that they have, then I'm an asshole. You know what I mean? If everything else is falling into place and I'm just like, oh, this thing, uh-uh. Yeah, no, it doesn't fucking play in. So be careful, as you always should be in a kink conversation and letting people down and just make sure that you are supportive and healthy partner and Hopefully you'll figure out whether or not it's a deal-breaker

But you know if you can compromise like if there are things that you don't mind that you're willing to do Maybe that will be enough. You know, I mean, yeah so I just try to get a Full worldview of what this is gonna be because it doesn't have to just be a no. Yeah. Unless it does. In which case, make it firm. Yeah.

I'm just saying there are gray areas. There might not be for you, but sometimes you think, oh, if I reject X, I'm rejecting YZW. But if you don't mind parts, maybe that'll be a good time for both of you guys. This is by Always Pizza Time. Hell yeah. Why do so many women get the ick when they find out I have an Android phone?

I've gone on a bunch of first dates this year, mainly through dating apps. 28, male, no trouble getting dates because I'm relatively attractive, over six feet tall, and I have an interesting career. But I've noticed that every time I pull out my phone on a first date, women will do a double take because if they can't believe someone like me

doesn't use an iPhone. My most recent first date last week, I took out my Samsung 25 ultra to show my data photos from place. We're discussing She immediately asked is an Android phone and when I said, yeah, do you have a problem that she said just why? Why would you use an Android when iPhones exist? I then proceeded to explain how Android is superior in many ways So it's just having support for split-screen appeloading fast charging 120 Hertz, bunch of other features. Is this just a hidden Samsung ad? Yeah, they get it.

Did they fucking got it? Well, I mean, it's Samsung. We said, no, we will not take your dirty money unless unless hey, Samsung, if the price is right, come on. But you're older and said, why would you ever want to run two apps side by side? So I gave up on convincing her. Another girl I went out on a date with last year, noticed my Android phone, so gave me a backhanded compliment, said that even though she's an iPhone user,

she likes Android man because they're weird and nerdy. Neither of us on iPhone. So we're not we're not beating the allegations here. Weird and nerdy podcaster D&D folk. If this were a one off incident, I would just ignore it and move on to the next girl. But it's happening so many times. I'm wondering if I'm just better off popping my SIM card into my work iPhone, bring that in dates to avoid this conversation entirely.

I don't understand why women are so repulsed by Android phones, especially because where I live, no one even uses iMessage. Everyone's on WhatsApp. So it's not like they have issues with green bubbles like in the U.S. I will say, like, yeah, during my last dent of of dating, I never got like no one ever commented in person, but I did get the like green bubble, huh? Like I'm just like it takes the exact same Yeah, what he's so fucking weird about this. I had one girl once be like, that's your phone and I was like, yeah

Why the fuck do you care and like literally just like it's so shameful of them to be like, that's what I care about I was just like yeah, we're I don't want to see you. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just such an embarrassing thing. It's like I don't show up and go like, oh, what what are you wearing? Oh, this under $100. No. Or like, you know, I mean, judging someone by something so superficial, especially when there is no difference. iPhones are just more expensive, which arguably makes you a worse person

because you're bad at deals. The crazy thing is, is being able to like, catch it. Like if someone put like four phones face up, I wouldn't know which is which is which. Your phone's right in front of me and I've hung out with you how long? And I was like, we're both Android users, right? We pop those bad boys out and we put them right there. I wouldn't know which one. I mean, that my my screen just popped up with a picture of my cat.

You idiot. You got a cat phone. I knew it. But like I wouldn't I wouldn't immediately know which one is which. But that's the depths of the sadness. Yeah, it's if you give a shit about something so superficial, you are a bad person. There was something else that happened the other day where someone like clocked it right away. I was like, how did you fucking how do you know that? I don't remember what it was Well, you need to be specific. Yeah, I can't do anything with that. Yeah, you've killed comedy You took it to the back of the closet or well, you fucking executed it and then you've grabbed

Useful discourse and you've carotid them and then you've flipped off all our listeners and now you're just yawning or coming I'll never tell Yeah, they who wants to be with someone that Materialistic and shallow and it doesn't have to just be iPhones could be anything Just tell them you built it like Tony Stark in a cave Then they're gonna like you Marvel you think they respect Marvel movies. I mean, I think Marvel's a safer bet than DC I hope so. Hey if they like DC, that's another ref. Yeah. Feel like, oh, you're talking about Dark Knight again. Fuck off.

Dark Knight was good. That was the this is Christian Bale once overrated. Compared to the rest of the. Yes. Like, yes. Phenomenal. Incredible. Yeah, I just anyone this like stuck up elitist misguided shallow. Yeah. What are you doing now? Also, how much of this is you? It does feel weird that you also popped into your big Samsung diatribe.

So like, yeah, it's maybe it's you. Yeah. I mean, like when people ask me, I like again, people and be like every iPhone I've ever owned has been absolute dogshit. The first iPhone I ever owned slid off my couch cushion, but maybe like a foot onto carpet and shattered. Yeah. And I was like, why? You know what I've done to this phone? Bad thing. My old phone. You drop it almost every time you record.

Yeah. My old my cat yeets this off my desk or my side table every time I sleep. Yeah. My so elitist. Yeets this off my desk or my side table every time I sleep Yeah My so elitist my old phone got run over by a van And then like a fucking like shelving unit fell on it when I was filming on something I was like I was using it in a in a like slapstick comedy I was using it as like a behind-the-scenes footage camera when we were shooting something and Everything just went wrong in that day.

People could put and not a scratch on it. The only iPod product I ever had or Apple product, I guess. Yeah, I had a like what were the music players, but they were touch touchscreen. iPod touch. Yeah, iPod touch. I had an iPod touch and I had it in a bag and I put a bunch of beer in that bag and I guess the force Of the beer cracked the screen. Okay, so you're saying like beer cans Okay You reverse riced it yeah, just like you threw your iPod Just cracked up but it was too dry. I was like what?

Yeah, I fell in the puddle of rice. I had to wear this. Went it up. I was like, no matter where this story goes, I'm not surprised that this thing didn't work. No, it was in my backpack. I put like 12 cans of beer in there and cycled up to a party. And then when I took it out, it was just fucking done. Yeah, like it wasn't on time.

It was just in a pocket. But the sheer pressure. The apples are made not to last. The boy pressure in that bag. So I'm just saying, I don't I don't on time. It was just in a pocket. But the sheer pressures are made not to last the boy pressure in that bag. So I'm just saying, I don't I don't get it. Yeah. And Apple has never if they were if they look, guys, we're we're kind of doing the reverse thing where now we're being superior about non Apple products.

But it's like if there was a reason to get Apple over anything other than like this weird social chip. Sure. But there isn't they're way more expensive. They do the same thing. Yeah. There's there's no like so anyway. Stop. Anyone who's this shallow. Like also, I don't give a shit if you have an Apple phone. I don't care what you have.

I don't know what you have. Again, I could not pick out whether you had an Apple phone or not. Unless you turn around, there's a big Apple logo on it. Like that's the only way I hate apples and I still don't care. Yeah, it's it's a weird it's a weird thing yeah but anyone who's like that weird about a small detail don't fucking date them yeah and also I'm gonna flip so we talked about it very briefly but like if you're that defensive about not having an Apple yeah or iPhone feels like you

want one perhaps maybe you just chill out on the Android and just be like yeah like androids and leave it at that right like that's that's what the conversation should be just like yeah Yeah, if someone's like why oh you have an Android be like yep And like that's it you don't need to go you don't need to sell them on it You need to convince them on it people are gonna buy iPhones this person just always bring it up though I bet they're like yeah, sorry. He's gotta get my Samsung I was gonna get my Samsung Galaxy X one for limited edition released on like, yeah. This is from Lori.

What phone does Lori have? Yeah, Lori, what's your phone? How do people not catch feelings in casual relationships? Being someone who is only interested in relationships, I can never understand casual things. Since many people prefer casual relationships, I wonder how you spend all this time with one person, maybe even know things about each other and have a good time, but not want to date them.

If anyone's boring me or we don't banter, I wouldn't hang out with them at all. It seems like if you're someone who engages in casual sex, that stuff doesn't matter, but how do you never become interested in them? I'm genuinely curious as I'm on the opposite side of things. I also wanted to ask, has anyone actually ended up dating someone

they were casual relationship with? And what's your experience? Yes. And it was great. Yeah. Yeah. Also, like, oh, God, questions like this are so bizarre because it's like, oh, why would you spend all this time

with one person? It's like, well, a key thing about being casual is I'm one of the best parts. It's not just one person. Yeah. It is multiple people, which is kind of the draw. Right. In a lot of ways.

You know what I mean? They're like, how would you do that? Not want to like maybe even know things about them. It's like, yeah, you can do everything. You're just not committed to them. That's like, I mean, like that's that's a right. Like a lot of people, I think, see casual relationships as like cold and transactional.

Yes. And hey, I've dated some people are like, you know, I've been in casual relationships with some people who also think that it sucks. It sucks. What are you doing? Like, this isn't fun for anybody. And like the weird thing that you think is like, oh, I want to do this thing, but I want to do it in the way that makes it

the worst way it could possibly be. Yeah. Like every casual. Well, I won't say every, but like the ones that I enjoyed and the ones that I stayed in for a long time, the ones that I look back fondly on were ones that like where if you removed the the polyamorous nature of it would be a great relationship. Yeah. Right. Like it would have been like if we were exclusive and dating,

it would have been a really good relationship. And not much probably would have changed. No, not at all. Like I we were, you know, we talked about important things. They shared important details about themselves when they had a bad day. We would talk about it, like all those things that you would do fun and like, I hate to break it to you, but I did have feelings for them. Yeah.

I did care about that. Another thing is like, you can care about someone and not want to be exclusive with them, exclusivity or marriage or whatever label you want to put on whatever part of your relationship doesn't mean you care more or less. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's not like, Oh, I really liked them. Well, why haven't you married them? It's like, you got me. Yeah. I only liked them five amounts, not 10. Like marriage doesn't have any like actual, like tangible, like, you know, what's the word I'm looking for? Like proof of caring, nor does dating.

Like some people date people the second they meet them because they're insecure or like have religious views. And it's like, that doesn't mean you like them more or less. It just means you don't want them seeing other people. I promise you that there are casual relationships. I've had casual relationships that have been a stronger foundation than most people's like, yes, monogamous exclusive relationship.

But that's like, the thing is, it should always start casual anyway. Because why would you date someone when you don't know you want to date them? And how would you get to know that you want to date them unless you've spent time with them? And how would you spend time with them if you're not spending time with them?

And that's like your last question being like, did you ever have someone like, yes, that should be specifically how everyone dates. You should always have a very last question being like, did you ever have someone like, yes, every one of them. That should be specifically how everyone dates. You should always have a very casual sort of like, okay, we're seeing each other. We're talking to each other. We're seeing each other. I'm like, again, you can have a casual relationship where you're only seeing one person. Sure.

That's a perfectly fine thing to do of just being like, the option is out there. Just because the option is there doesn't mean you're using it. We're not monogamous. We're not exclusive. It's, you know, but like we're just seeing each other right now. And like, you know, the option is out there. Just like the option. We're not monogamous. We're not, we're not exclusive. It's, you know, but like we're just seeing each other right now. And like, that's fine. Yeah. And either that transitions to a relationship or you keep doing that forever or it fizzles out. Whatever.

But like that's how dating is. Yeah. Cause the alternative is you find someone and just latch onto them for reasons. Yeah. And you don't date, you're not dating. You've, if you start, you go on one date with that person and then you say you're the only person I'm gonna pay any attention to until we either drive this into the ground or get married Yeah, then you're not dating. No, you're you've dated. Yeah, right. Like you've had one date and now you're in a relationship

Yeah, and it seems I would love questions like this where it's like what's in between like for you Are you literally trying to date people day one? You're trying to be exclusive day one. Yeah. Why? Why do you want to be chained to someone you don't even know? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like for me, like being exclusive with someone is a very serious commitment. Right. I take it very seriously and I couldn't take it very seriously

if I didn't make that choice with weight and I couldn't make that choice. I give it the importance it needs. If I didn't actually know that it was what I wanted and how would I know whether it's what I want or not if I don't get to that point. And this is why I think a lot of people get frustrated with dating and a lot of people consider dating like get really upset about when things don't pan out because they're like you wasted my time. Yeah. Dating is a waste of time. It's like, well, you wasted your time because you decided to put all of your investment into one person that you do not know.

So if that's how you want to date, you can't be upset when it doesn't pan out and that person's like, oh, actually, I don't really like it. Or they ghost you because they've known you for four weeks. Like that's, it sucks. I'm not saying it's a good thing to do and it doesn't feel bad,

but you don't know this person. And you know, like anyone going into dating thinking that this isn't the culture right now You know everything is instant gratification swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe and the second something else comes along They're gonna they the potential to drop you is there. I'll also say I don't think a normal person is going Yeah, let's date day one No, you're alienating a lot of people from the dating pool and what you're getting are either people who are like desperate, religious, or lying. Or lying. And that's the best thing is like a guy who's going to

want to just like fuck you and run, they're not gonna see any danger. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're exclusive. Don't worry. Cause it doesn't matter because day one, it's so easy. It's just a word. It's a yes. And then you like, oh, all men are trash. He lied to me. He cheated on me. He blah, blah, blah. And it's like, yeah, you put him in a situation where again,

he's going to be on the weird end of the spectrum where you're religious, overly serious or weird or insecure or whatever, or he's a liar. And you're missing out on the middle of people who like will give you a chance. Yeah, that's weird to me. It is very strange too when you like when you break it down with people like, oh, I'm looking for a relationship. Great. How do you get there? It is very strange to when you break it down, when people are like, oh, I'm looking for a relationship. Great, how do you get there? What are you doing specifically to get to a relationship? Because if it's not going on dates with multiple people, and it's like a lot of people are like,

oh, I don't wanna see multiple, it's like, I understand that. I understand that impulsive being like, I don't wanna sleep with multiple people. And we're not telling you to. What we're saying is you go on a couple dates with different people, and if there's one person that really gets your attention sure put a little bit more focus on that but and see where

it goes but don't assume that because you've put that much time or because that's the person you want that it's going to go anywhere that they owe any yeah you're putting in back because how many times have you gone on a date with someone you're like, that's not it I got bad news for you. There's just as many people who go on a date with you and feel the same way And that's not a burn on you It's just the way that life works people you might like who don't like you as much and that's fine But like to to assume that just because oh, I've chosen this it's gonna work out

I'm gonna get back what I put in blah blah blah blah blah No, and I'm also now gonna fantasize about our life together. I'm gonna dream about getting married I put in. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No. And I'm also now going to fantasize about our life together. I'm going to dream about getting married. I think this is what I thought. I thought I found the one. It's like all those things so quickly is to risk for disaster. It's you're just building yourself up for heartache. And then what heartache gives you is bitterness.

It's going to give you. And then like that makes things harder because now you're coming in with that like extra little little tinge of like being miserable that most, you know, adjusted people can spot a mile away. Like when I was on, uh, the dating apps, it was so easy to go through and be like, Oh, you'd be missed. Like you're terrible because like you have something when we used to do Tinder reviews of being like, you know, not bitter yet, or I need someone who's this, or like I'm sick of this.

Sick of being on the app. Yeah. Make me give me a reason why I shouldn't delete it today. Yeah. And it's just like those people were just hard nose. Yeah. Why would I want that energy? Yeah.

Yeah. I want that. I want someone fun. I want to be dating and I want dating to be fun. And that's the thing when I was dating, it was always fun and all the casual relationships I was in were fun and we cared about each other and treated each other well and we had fun. And then if it got to a point with someone where I wanted to be exclusive with them, it became that way. Like there's no like madness here. There's no science, not crazy. It's just like we had, it's like, I don't know guys, it's just, it's like moving an acquaintance

to a friend. You know what I mean? If you have a bunch of acquaintances who like maybe you'll see at the climbing gym or like they go to the same bar and every now and then you see them or like you meet up for a sports event or whatever. But then eventually you're like, you know what? I actually like the person. I should hang out with them more. And you like get their number and make a plan to actually hang out with them. You could get your head around that. So why can't you get your head around a casual relationship?

You know, and sometimes it's just sex, but it still doesn't mean you don't care about them. You aren't nice to them, et cetera, right? Yeah, yeah. That's the thing. It's like, it's treating casual relationships as if it's just sort of like a miserable prison that you're just doing to fuck. And then like, it's like, no, it's like,

there's been plenty of times where, you know, I've been in casual relationships and I booty called them and like, oh, I'm on my period. I don't really want to be like, well, like, come over. Let's like order a pizza and watch a fucking movie or something. Right. It's like they like that's a casual relationship because then it's like we don't worry. You know, like, I don't know. It's it's very strange to me that like this idea that casual means cold

and detached and uncaring or also that care means dating and exclusivity. It's like, why? Because do you feel that way about friends? Yeah. Like, do you have a barrier of like, how much you care about your friends because if you cared about them anymore, they would be married to you?

Yeah, right. Like, I don't understand that like, do you understand that relationships are dynamic and feelings are dynamic and every relationship isn't the same? So like, looking at your friend's marriage that's working is not going to be working for you or might not work for you because of different things. It's like there's so many moving parts

and every relationship with every person in your life should be different. Yeah. If you treat your relationship with your best friend and expect that vibe to fit with your work friends and that vibe to fit with the guy you met on Tinder and that vibe to fit with your work friends and that vibe to fit with the guy you met on Tinder and that vibe to fit with the guy you met at a bar. And you know what I mean? It's like to think that you could just be like, this is my caring style and this is how I care and it's going to work for everyone. It's like, no, that's not how it works.

Sometimes you have to like alter things. Maybe one person needs a little bit more texting, needs a little bit more, you know, constant communication. Some people like for me, I don't like, I'm the lowest maintenance in terms of stuff because like, I know that just because you haven't texted me today doesn't mean you've forgotten about me and I don't need that and it's it's fine, right? And I, but I know like other people, uh, past partners who like a little check in and so I have to like actually make it. I like my friends to be visible in my life. Yeah. I mean, and like you just need to know you like you need to have like a little bit of like relationship literacy and be like, oh, I acknowledge that that person needs X,

Y, and Z. And if it doesn't work for you, if it doesn't fit for you, then like, you know that and it might not be smart to try to pursue something with that person. And that's we get all the time where people like just refuse to communicate their needs and either, A, expect their partner to just know. Yeah. Or B, their partner has asked for X, Y and Z. And they are just like, I don't want to, though. You're like, OK, well, then, like, this isn't going to work. Yeah. And also, like, if you have a good relationship with someone, does it need to be exclusive?

You know, I mean, if you are seeing someone casual and it's good, what does that change? Is it just to assuage your jealousy? Yeah. You know what I mean? Because if that's why you're making decisions on who to date, that's not great. No.

You know what I mean? Like if you're making a decision because that's the person you really want to be with and it's for like positive reasons, great. But if it's just like, oh, I don't want them seeing other people, that's a bad reason to tie yourself to someone. You know what I mean? I just, it's wild like oh, I don't want them seeing other people that's a bad reason to tie us off to someone You know what I mean? I just it's it's wild. It's wild. Yeah, that's gonna do it for us. That's it for this one friends

Hopefully you've been able to find some little bit of Hope while you have finished heating your beans up. Mm-hmm. Fuck. We talked for too long. We were too engaging You forgot the beans. Oh the beans They're in the fire now. Damn. They got to reach in because you can't put out the last flame. No, the one flame remaining in the world. Yeah. It's been a blast. We appreciate you spending some time with us. We know you're busy and there's not a lot of time to do all the things that we want to do anymore. And so taking an hour out of your day to hang out with us is very, very nice and we appreciate it very much. Yeah.

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Mean, oh, it's the paddle Gazette 1995 so yeah to be fair Maybe these girls are a bunch of crybabies probably no. No, it's I don't know I would say that to there are there are people that I've worked with in the past who cry a lot at work Yeah, I know a lot of people who cry. I think I would I would congratulate Someone be like hey made it to the end of the ship. And now you're crying. It's like, I'm sorry. But I like to think that this is a reality where this girls team, they always win. Like they're killers.

They always fucking win. And like it's gotten to the point where they're so good that like, that's not what they're focused on. It's like, OK, you're great. You do cry a lot, though. So instead of us, like, you know, the way there's like the sports shows where it's like, we got to get the team to win. They're always going to win. They're so good. That's like, fuck, we got to deal with something else.

We got to make you stop crying. Maybe he's talking about the other team. Maybe these these powerful girls are so dominating on the field that they beat their team into tears. And this time they the other team did put up such a brave face that they only burst into tears after after and like And the other team like, you know, the the coach has been like girls. You gotta bring it back. You're at 170 percent right now We need to down to a hundred they didn't cry until after the game. Good job. Yeah, exactly Yeah, you took it easy on them principal beans. Do you think he was over the fire? I hope so all power structure needs to be removed. My name is Dave Miller.

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