Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee - #148 BITESIZE | The Surprising Benefits of Taking a Break From Alcohol | Andy Ramage
Episode Date: January 15, 2021Could giving up alcohol really change your life? Whilst some of us may currently be alcohol free for Dry January, many of us have haven’t given our drinking habits much thought. We often look at imp...roving our diet and moving more but is alcohol the elephant in the room that could be holding us back? Feel Better Live More Bitesize is my new weekly podcast for your mind, body and heart. Each week I’ll be featuring inspirational stories and practical tips from some of my former guests. Today’s guest is performance coach and author Andy Ramage. Andy is co-founder of the habit-changing program One Year No Beer that invites people to try 28, 90 or 365 days alcohol free. He believes it’s possible to become the most productive, present and healthiest version of yourself just by making this one change. We discuss how alcohol is linked to many parts of our lives and why Andy described himself as a ‘middle lane drinker’ before he gave up alcohol 6 years ago. He explains why taking a tactical break from alcohol could bring a surprising host of benefits and how his own experience changed his life. Andy believes the greatest discovery you'll ever make is your authentic self and that by removing alcohol you allow yourself the chance to be you again. What could be more powerful than that? Show notes and the full podcast are available at drchatterjee.com/85 Follow me on instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Follow me on facebook.com/DrChatterjee/ Follow me on twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.
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Welcome to Feel Better Live More, bite-sized, your weekly dose of optimism and positivity
to get you ready for the weekend. Today's clip is from episode 85 of the podcast with performance coach and author Andy Ramage. Andy's co-fan of the habit
changing program One Year No Beer that invites people to try 28, 90 or 365 days alcohol free.
In this clip, he explains why taking a tactical break from alcohol could bring a surprising
host of benefits and how his own experience changed his life.
Let's rewind back a few years, I don't know when it was now, when you started that journey of
re-examining your relationship. Yeah, for me it was very clear, it was in my mid-30s. I'd sort of
reached that conventional place where happiness
apparently resides. I had the car and the big job and the lovely family and all those type of
trappings. And I remember reaching this place thinking, I feel a bit average. I think like
many people, like a five out of 10, I was overweight, stressed out, maxed out, unfit,
unhealthy. And as part of that process, I decided
to leave my job as a broker to start a new firm because I was convinced there has to be more to
life than this. You know, when I looked around the rest of the city, I saw people that were
quote unquote more successful than me, broken bodies, broken minds, broken homes. And I was
like, I don't aspire to that. What's the point? I want to do something different. I want to come
back. I want to build a
foundation of wellness and vitality and from there, peak performance. So I had nine months
off, which was fantastic gardening leave. I traveled the world. I trained for the best of
the best, co-founder of NLP, Rich Roll, Sarah Campbell, the world champion free diver, just to
learn everything I could about wellness and vitality. And when I came back to start this
new business, I was going to meditate and I came back to start this new business, you know,
I was going to meditate and I was going to eat salad and stuff. You know, I was in that cup of
mindset, but I was totally inconsistent. I was inconsistent in the way that I exercised. I was
inconsistent in the way that I showed up in the office. This inconsistency was everywhere.
And finally the penny dropped. I thought it's alcohol.
Was there a particular moment? I mean, you've mentioned when the penny dropped, I thought, it's alcohol. Was there a particular moment? I mean,
you've mentioned when the penny dropped, but I don't know, you know, banker culture from
what I know of some of my friends from university who've gone down that road,
and just from seeing what I've seen, alcohol, socialising, fuels a lot of that industry from
what I can tell. Oh, absolutely. But what's interesting since I've got into this, it's not just banking or broking that I was in or trading, it's media.
You know, it's in all these different, it's in insurance, it's in very lots of, it's quite
ubiquitous how widespread the use of alcohol is to entertain and socialize and do all those things.
And as you said, it's the elephant in the room. It's the one thing that no one ever really
questions. They question their diet and they question their meditation. They question the
way they move their body and they sort of forget to actually look at this thing underneath, which
is alcohol that's tripping people up. So for me, there wasn't ever a big sort of never again
moment. It was just a slow realization of, I think this is holding me back. I was suspecting that
alcohol was preventing me being my best self. It was preventing me getting from that five out of a 10 in terms of happiness or wellness
to a seven or an eight and sort of spoiler alert, it absolutely was.
Yeah.
So why should someone who's listening to this podcast,
why should they start to question their relationship with alcohol, do you think?
I think everyone should just take a break just run that experiment
because you might not know how much it's holding you back until you remove it because i think it's
things like consistency it takes away that consistency even if you're only drinking once
or twice a week and just to set my stall out i am talking to the middle lane drinkers i class
myself as a middle lane drinker and what i mean by that is someone that drinks moderately sometimes
averagely sometimes heavily which is basically everyone you by that is someone that drinks moderately, sometimes averagely,
sometimes heavily, which is basically everyone. You know, that is the group that I'm talking to,
because I think for too long, there's been this black and white message around alcohol. It's either you have a full blown problem or you don't. There's no in between. I think it needs to be
this gradient where we think about alcohol as a whole spectrum. And everyone who drinks is on
that gradient. At one end, it's the very moderate drinker once a month. The other end is the problematic drinker. And most
people spend all of their time oscillating somewhere in the middle, don't they? I think
they're average, sometimes moderate, sometimes heavy. That's the group of people I'm talking to.
If someone had told you six years ago, hey, Andy, look, you're drinking too much, right?
You're going to, in six years time, have not touched a drop of alcohol for six years ago, hey, Andy, look, you're drinking too much, right? You're going to, in six years
time, have not touched a drop of alcohol for six years. You probably would have laughed in their
face and thought, what are you talking about? Oh, absolutely.
I mean, so the goal for you was never to stop drinking. And I think that's very powerful. So
you never planned to completely stop drinking. And I think that's what you're offering people,
isn't it? It's not about giving up necessarily. It's almost as if you're trying to say,
hey, look, let's give it a go. Why don't you see how you feel when you don't drink?
And is that all you're asking people to do?
Exactly. That's it. In a nutshell, I choose not to drink because why would I?
But prior to that, I stopped and started many times. I slipped up and stumbled and fumbled. And just so you know, the co-founder of
One You Know Beer, Ruri Fairbains, he drinks every now and again in full control on his own terms.
So I'm all about people drinking if they wish to. But what I really want everyone to do is to run
the test, run the test and see the results that you get. And if you feel amazing, keep going.
I talk about people doing a split test on themselves or an A and B test effectively.
A, you with alcohol right now, gather your stats, you know, BMI, weight, resting heart rate,
all those wonderful physiological stats. And then the subjective stats, productivity, time,
motivation, stress, your relationships, run the test for 28 days. That's all you've got to do.
I prefer 90 days because I think you get better results. And when you think about it, your relationships, run the test for 28 days. That's all you've got to do. I prefer 90
days because I think you get better results. And when you think about it, 90 days, a 90-day break
from alcohol over the average drinking career is about 0.49%. Everyone's got 0.49% just to run the
test. And if you get the results and you have this visceral experience of these improvements,
and you've got more time, you've got more motivation, you've got more productivity, you've lost weight and all these
wonderful things, then the answer's in the data, the answer's in the visceral experience.
And then my job's done. All I've got to do is help people start, keep them going for long enough to
have their own experience. Then their relationship's transformed. My own story, in that 90 days,
I lost three stone in weight. You know, My body fat went from 35% down to below
10%. I got my time back. Here's the thing. People don't even think about time. Time's a modern day
disease in the sense that we don't have any. Take a break from alcohol. You unlock tons of time.
You've realized how much time you were wasting. For me, mornings were never an option. There was
no time in the morning. It just could not exist. I took a break from alcohol. Suddenly I got up half an hour earlier, became two hours earlier. You can
transform your world in two hours a day. You know, in that space, I got fit, got healthy,
wrote two books. This is all whilst I was working. Went back to university twice before the kids had
even got up for breakfast. So what about someone who's listening to this and goes, Andy, look, I get it. I get that this has worked for you, but I am shy. I can't talk to people. I feel really nervous when I'm out in a
bar or at a work meeting and actually having a couple of glasses of wine loosens me up so that
I can have those conversations. Is this approach still for me, Andy? What would you say to them?
Oh, absolutely. And I think where things have changed hugely in the last five or six years since i started is the advent of
alcohol-free alternatives they're everywhere now there's been a huge shift in that heineken zero
zero for example is unbelievably well stocked seed lip first world's non-alcoholic gin
these alternatives are there and there's real placebo in that. And when I first stopped, I used that placebo all the time. So if I was out socially,
I would feel exactly like that person you described. I'd find it very difficult to
socialize without those one or two drinks. So I had to retrain myself, but I did that whilst
holding on to something that looked like alcohol, that tasted like alcohol, that stopped a lot of the social
pressure because people assumed I was just drinking. And that was enough for me to buy
me the space to retrain myself to be social without alcohol. And then you're unstoppable
because you can do all those things that you always wanted to do without having to rely on
this crutch that's actually holding you back. I wonder if you reflect on the last six
years, what has been your biggest learning? Biggest learning is that consistency is king.
I think it's not about being perfect. It's about showing up enough time in a row and doing the
right things. It's really simple. I think you can achieve your dreams if you show up enough time in a row and doing the right things. It's really simple. I think you can
achieve your dreams if you show up enough times, whether that's to get the body that you want or
the relationships, the connection, the vibrancy. It's just about showing up. It's not about being
perfect. It's about showing up. Our journeys are probably slightly different. So I think the reason
I have stopped drinking by and large, I mean, I will have a drink now and again, is because as I found more meaning and purpose in my life from my job, and listen to the podcast, we'll have heard some of this story before, but since my father died, who I used to care for, I've been on a real journey to discover who I am. And as I've discovered who I am, as I've started to do things in my daily life that really give me meaning and pleasure and purpose, I found that
I no longer need to drink anymore because actually the alcohol was often there to numb.
Yeah. I think something you've said there is really poignant. I think the greatest discovery
you'll ever make is your authentic self. And I think that's shining through. And I think something you've said there is really poignant. I think the greatest discovery you'll ever make is your authentic self.
And I think that's shining through.
And I think alcohol masks that.
It puts on this affront, whether you're numbing or whether you're trying to be someone that you're not.
And when you remove it, you get this chance to be you again.
You get this chance to turn up and be social or relax or relieve boredom as you and experience life as you.
relax or relieve boredom as you and experience life as you. And if there's things underneath that need to be dealt with, because that's very often the case with people, especially on the
stream end who use alcohol, you get this chance to bring back your vitality, bring back your energy
and also deal with anything that's underlying, but ultimately become you again, your authentic
self. That is so powerful. That is the greatest discovery you'll ever make. And I think that leads
to more meaning and purpose and vitality in one's life. And I think that's the powerful that is the greatest discovery you'll ever make and i think that leads to more
meaning and purpose and vitality in one's life and i think that's the experience that you've
just had and i've had in many ways for many people the first step just like for you it's going to be
reset your relationship with alcohol right absolutely and i think meaning and purpose
comes from momentum in your life.
Just head in a direction, whether that's to take a break from alcohol, whether that's to
transform your diet or listen to this podcast or read books, there's momentum. And where there's
momentum, I think you grow meaning and purpose. And as I mentioned, culturally, I think we've
been lured into this false sense of belief that we can just sort of, from a standing start,
figure out what our meaning and purpose should be. And if you can't, then you're a bit broken and you're a bit unlucky, but it's
not true. Just create momentum in your life, health, vibrancy, connection, and you will never
know how it might just blossom. It might just appear along that journey. And then you end up
being like me and you, and we're writing books and doing podcasts. And I'm talking to people
about giving up or taking a break from alcohol. Who would have thought that in a billion years? I could never
have brainstormed that. I've got a pen out and gone, hey, I know what my meaning and purpose
is going to be. It just happened from momentum in a direction of wellness and positivity.
And I think that will take you where you need to go.
Yeah. It happened as a default, as a result of you living your best life.
Yeah.
You didn't need it to live your best life. You started living your best life. And then as a default, as a result of you living your best life. You didn't need it to live your best life.
You started living your best life. And then as a result, you start to find the meaning and purpose.
Which is just beautiful.
It is. And even if you look at the world of positive psychology, there's a great guy called
Sean Acker. And he has lots of research about success, for example. And he's actually saying,
look, people don't get happy and vibrant when they're successful
that's the traditional model actually if you really look at the science people who are happy
and vibrant become successful that's the way around it is and it's the same with our wellness
it's the same with meaning i think we find it when we are imbued with wellness and vitality
and positivity and then we stumble upon it well When we feel better, we live more. Exactly.
There you go.
You've built up a wealth of experience.
So I wonder if you could share some of your best tips for my audience.
Start today.
Right now, make a commitment.
Just do it.
I think that's the number one thing, as obvious as that sounds.
And again, I think to understand that failure is part of the process, this is so key.
As soon as you step outside your comfort zone, whatever it is you're trying to do, you're
going to stumble.
You're going to fumble.
You're going to get things wrong.
Learn from it.
Dust yourself off.
Come back stronger.
Understand that motivation changes and be prepared to change with it.
The motivation to start is very often very different to the motivation you need to keep
going and ultimately try to become someone that is doing
the things that you want to do, whether that's someone that doesn't drink or someone that eats
in a certain way or someone that moves their body. Ultimately, I think it is just to accept
that just by showing up, as my last point, is consistency is king. Whatever it is you're
trying to do, just trying to show up enough times in a row and you will achieve your dreams take it from me
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