Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee - #207 BITESIZE | Discover Your True Self for Peace and Purpose | Kilian Jornet

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Starting point is 00:01:53 You run some quite extreme ultra races where you really put your body under a lot of strain, a lot of stress. Why is it you do this form of running out in nature or out in mountains? why is it you do this form of running out in nature or out in mountains yeah like that's what i love and it's about exploring the the the outdoors is exploring and by exploring like the beauty of the nature it's exploring myself and exploring like what who are who am i and the limits and running long distance like when you run a hundred mile race when you put your body into this um situation like it you are exhausted and like you are sleepy and your legs are hurting on a way it's not that we are macho kids but it's more like you want to know who you are and there you find it like you put yourself to the limits and finally you you take away all the masks that we wear every day it's interesting you said that

Starting point is 00:02:45 i've heard that on this podcast on many occasions i many people who run and often they say that it helps them with their mental health it helps them process life it helps them find out who they are we get so much like uh inputs every day like informations they are like we are like getting that all the time all the time all the time so many things and we cannot process all that like we have not like the capacity of like processing all the the things that we get every day from everywhere from the news from the social media from the work from everywhere and i think running or these activities where you need to be alone and you need to to be activities where you need to be alone and you need to to be with yourself you need to hear your breathe you need to to feel your muscles you need

Starting point is 00:03:31 to to listen to your body I always say like when you climb when you are up in the mountains you find the problems of the world so easy to resolve yeah because it it feels much more simple when you take away all this storm of information and that running long distance. It's to be with yourself and to find what are your real priorities. When you are in a technical situation, when you are in a moment that you need to really focus on what you are doing because the consequence of doing wrong, they are fatal. because the consequence of doing wrong, they are fatal. It's a moment that you are really into the movement. You are really into the step.

Starting point is 00:04:13 Future don't exist and past don't exist. You are just in the present. And that's meditation. I think it's just like for during the time of the activity. It's not an emotion. It's not fear, not euphoria.phoria is not past is not future and it's just present and in your brain is kind of is nothing so you can be for hours with white in your brain and and and just focusing in the in the exam movement that's yeah that's that's meditation i I would say.

Starting point is 00:04:48 You are out there, you stop, and silence. What's the last time you have been hearing nothing? Silence, and just a bit of wind or a bird, and be there and just listen for five minutes, and focusing on silence. It's another thing that we've eroded out of society, downtime, silence. And every time now where we have silence or an opportunity for silence,

Starting point is 00:05:14 many of us don't take it. We fill it with something else, whether it's music or social media or emails or the news or whatever. I think this also lends itself to people being afraid of being by themselves because any spare moment they have, the phone comes out.

Starting point is 00:05:32 People aren't really alone with their thoughts much anymore because you don't have to be. You can fill your space with this. With this, yeah. Whatever you want. But I guess you don't, when you go out running and you're really pushing your body, you are alone, right? When I was in everest i was training up and it was some moments like uh

Starting point is 00:05:50 it was in the summer in 2016 and i was alone in the mountain it was like wow i'm at 8 000 meters i'm the only person like in the mountain that's beautiful like to be there and just like embrace that moment you don't want to terminate and it's like it's some feelings that they are like they are huge like you cannot describe it just like you feel so so so small and that's i think it's it's one of the greatest feelings ever you can say okay yeah like imagine like uh you are world champion you you won this big race and you think you are someone important then you go up there and you realize you are a small dot, like you are a snowflake. It gives you so much freedom of taking away,

Starting point is 00:06:33 yeah, you can be whatever. What it means to be world champion, it means that that year, precisely, you were the fastest person in this competition. It's nothing in the history it's it's nothing and that means that you are free to do whatever you want yeah you feel this freedom when you feel small do you think you get more joy from from winning a race or from something like going up everest twice in in one week which i don't think has been done before. So you're not really

Starting point is 00:07:05 competing against someone. You're almost competing against yourself, really pushing your own body to your own limits. I don't know. What is it that drives you more or what makes you happier more? Well, I would say before it was about beating the others, being first. Now it's about pushing myself to my limits and pushing myself to where I want to be. And then it's like using the competition, using like the excitement of the race, using the other runners to help me to push there. Before, if I was second, I don don't know in a big championship i could be angry or whatever and now like it's the result it doesn't matter at all like i can win or be second or be the last one but at the end like if i have pushed myself i have used the competition to

Starting point is 00:07:59 to to drive me there like physically or mentally that's the goal before i was uh before a big race i was so nervous like i i i could not control my anxiety there like it was like i could not breathe it was like until the moment of the start and it was all this because you see the goal before and and it feels too big it It feels so important. It feels that you don't know if you are ready, if you can make it. I think after some experiences in the mountains, you realize what's the worst that can happen, that they lose the race. Well, that's not that bad, no?

Starting point is 00:08:41 But before, losing a race, it looked like such a big thing yeah and and i think so many times like we are so close to this problem that we don't take the perspective on looking like if you are in the foot of a difficult mountain you look up and and you don't see the mountain you you see it's it's too difficult it's you don't see the the whole picture you need to go back go away and then you you can see where it's easy to go and and that can come through through many techniques and yeah my technique was to try to rationalize and then you realize okay yeah what's important and what's not important and then you realize that that mountain maybe it wasn't that big i guess you you were talking literally around mountains

Starting point is 00:09:30 but we can almost talk about it metaphorically you know yeah like a job interview a conference like everywhere like i think yeah i think to really lead a happy and fulfilled life we need to find out what it is that makes us happy, not what makes other people happy. Yeah, exactly. And that's nobody that will tell you. That's only you that can figure it out. And you need time for that and you need to cut your way from influences.

Starting point is 00:09:59 But it's not from simple situations that we will achieve things, I think. And decisions that will close doors, will open other doors. But we need to accept that some doors need to be closed and we need to accept that we can get lost and we can get hurt to finally achieve something. And that's something that is not like we valorize achievement, but we don't valorize failure. And I think like failure, it's the biggest thing for learning. Like when you fail, it's when you learn. It's a good thing.

Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah, it's a good thing. And we are promoting like you are a winner, you do things good and not like you try what probably you will fail. You are inspiring hundreds of thousands around the world with what you're doing. Have you got any tips for people who are listening, you know, little things that they can think about doing in their own life, even if they're not living in the mountains like you, that's going to help them get more out of their life? I think, as we said, like find nature. It can be a park.

Starting point is 00:11:01 It can be somewhere where it's this connection to who we are, to listen to the nature, to listen to the birds, to listen to the ocean, the wind. And it can be only for a few minutes, but I think that's important to find a moment to find the animal we are. hope you enjoyed that bite-sized clip please do spread the love by sharing this episode with your friends and family and if you want more why not go back and listen to the full conversation with my guest and if you enjoyed this episode i think you will really enjoy my new bite-sized friday email it's called the fr Five. And each week, I share things that I do not share on social media. It contains five short doses of positivity, articles or books that I'm reading, quotes that I'm thinking about, exciting research I've come across, and so much more. I really think you're going to love it. The goal is for it to be a small

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Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee - #207 BITESIZE | Discover Your True Self for Peace and Purpose | Kilian Jornet

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