Financial Audit - 31-Year-Old Immature Woman Refuses To Take Responsibility

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Alina. I am from West Hartford, Connecticut, and I'm 31 years old, and this is financial audit. 31. And you're based in Connecticut? Okay. What do you do for a living in Connecticut? I am an infectious disease physician. Oh, very cool. So I'm sure that's been... Super, super easy, like NBD. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're 31. How long did it take to get into that position? Lots of school. Yeah. So I actually, I grew up in Bacassan. So because of that, so here you guys have like undergrad and then you do med school. But in Pakistan, you basically just go to med school after like high school. So I did five years of medical school.
Starting point is 00:00:42 And so that kind of saved me three years. But I still did three years of residency. I graduated in 2020. And then I did fellowship. Got done in 2022. But because I'm on a visa, I was, yeah. And there were the previous government. kind of like messed with the H1 visas a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:02 It slowed everything down. And so for three months, I was in limbo from July to September. And so I was unemployed. Finally, my visa came through when I started working as an attending in September of 22. Okay. Very cool. What do you make now? So pre-tax, I make $300 a year.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And then there's bonuses on top. Highest income we've had on the show, I think bonuses on top? Yeah. What are the bonuses for? So there's two things that you can get a bonus for. There's a caudy metrics or there's RVU based metrics, which is RVU, it just stands for, it's basically a value unit. And essentially, if you see a certain number of patients above their cutoff, then you make a certain amount of, like, each RVU has a value. And so it's like this, like, really complicated math thing that you will make money off of.
Starting point is 00:01:56 But that... What would you calculate your bonus at? So I, because I just started, I was only there for three months. I did get the Claudia bonus, which was, I think, for anybody who was there for the entire year, it was going to be $15,000, but I was only there for four months. Oh, but it's normally going to be about $15,000 a year. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously, then tax is 25% of that, and that hurts.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But I got a third of $15,000, so I got $5,000, and then 25% got taken out. And then our view metric, we are a very small hospital, so we didn't really, we didn't see a lot of volume this year. But there is an option of pretty much you expect like five to ten maybe to come up. So maybe 1520 above that. And when is your visa expirer? Oh, no. Now I'm, now I'm good. Now I'm, no.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah. So it was a different kind of visa before. It was like a, it was a non. it was more like a training education WISA and now it's more like now it's like a work WISA now it's an H1 and so it's So as long as the company keeps endorsing it?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Okay, but if you ever wanted to leave the company? I could go to, if I finish three years I can go anywhere. Three years, that's all? Yeah, and then I can actually because of what country I'm from, I'm from Pakistan I can actually get my green card within three to four years so that would just eliminate the whole visa issue so.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Okay, very cool. Yeah. Well, so, I mean, I know a lot of people out there thinking, why am I not subscribed and they should just subscribe? But I also know that a lot of people are like, she's making $300,000 a year. She has crazy bonuses. She's doing very well. But you have a mess, like crazy. Why?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Well, I guess you've only been in the position for not that long. So it's like, okay. Yeah. So now it's time to start cleaning it up? Yeah. Pretty much, yes. So a few things happened. A, me being an idiot, like there's no other way to describe it.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Classic? Yes, I'm an idiot. But, so one of the dumbest things that I did was when I got this job, so there was also like a sign-on bonus that was promised to me, and I thought I would get it when I signed on, but what I didn't realize, and that was $30,000, what I didn't realize was that first they were going to split it into two. The first you were going to get when you started working, so within 30 days of your start date, so not really a sign-on bonus.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And the other half you were going to get a year after you started working. So more like a retention. And I didn't read the fine print because even though I had a lawyer, but like he... Okay, so you got half, $15,000. Yeah, but... But, no, no, but when I started working, it couldn't be... So while I was waiting for my visa, I had... What was the distance between that time?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Three months. Okay. So no, no. income. And so, but when I signed my job, it was in September of 2021 because the weasar process takes forever and you have to like, so it took me a year to get my visa. I was like, oh, I'm going to be, I'm going to be a baller. I'm going to like live my best life. I should start buying attending stuff. I should start like buying shoes and clothes and just be fancy. Why? What was that mindset? Where did that come from? Because I was like, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:05:21 be a baller. It's great. Because like, I will say, so I think, um, it was, very dumb. I'm not even going to play that game. But I feel like with COVID and all of that, I think a lot of us, like I was in the first surge and took care of people in Chicago and like a lot of like really awful things happened.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And so I was in this ridiculous mindset. Like you know what? You could die in five minutes because I saw like very young people. Why do anything if we could die in five minutes? I know. But you know, so that was like my whole.
Starting point is 00:05:56 That was 2021 Alina. This is 23 Alina. We've grown up. Now we're 31 and we're mature. So a year of like ridiculous spending. And then then I realized, I wouldn't say a year. I would say six or eight months. But then I realized that this transition is also very expensive.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I had to pay for my license, my medical license. How much is that? It's like $4,000. I had to pay for a couple of other things. I had to pay for my like D.E. license. That is about a thousand. And then I had to pay for my boards, which was 2,500. And then I had to pay for another, the Massachusetts like DA situation, which is like an MCSR, which was like 600. And then I also, there are a bunch of things that I ended up having to
Starting point is 00:06:48 pay for. For all those licenses, we're talking like 5% of your income. No, but this was before. I I had to do this before any of this happened. But how long have you been working now? No, it's been six months. Why do you have debt? Because it's just, you know, because it was a lot of debt. I actually have cleared out some of my debts already, so. But, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:11 What's your take home on a monthly basis? So post-tax and post-retirement, it is. A 401K contribution? Yeah. It is 13-8. And then one of the reasons that I had like a lot of loans was because three months of living in Connecticut at my current place I'm living at without any income was $15,000 out of my pocket, which I did not have. So credit cards and loans and. Seems like a lot of choices though.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I know. This is just you choosing to get fucked. I didn't. The weight. Yeah, you can't control that, but you can control what you do in between it. in terms of where your money's going. Yeah, but I had to, like, pay rent. I actually lived very leanly those three months, but...
Starting point is 00:08:02 How much debt did you go into in those three months? Those three months, I would say 15,000. Fuck you, lean, that's not lean. It was my rent... It's not lean, though. My rent for a month is $3,500. It's not overly expensive, but it's not lean. My rent was $3,500.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Yeah, that's not lean. Because that's the place I was going to live in. I don't care. Live in a cheaper place. Mm-hmm. But then I would have to move again. Oh, cry. What?
Starting point is 00:08:33 So the problem was I was supposed to start working August. I'm trying to justify all this bullshit. No, I'm not, no, we're not doing that life. We're not doing the justified bull of your life. Why do I not have a checking account? No, I did. I sent it to you. No.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I did. 25%. Over your income. So technically fine. Wouldn't go baller, as you said. on your rent right now when you're trying to get out of the disgusting debt that we haven't even touched yet. Yeah. Do you want me to send you my checking out information now? Okay. All righty. Let's take a look. Yeah, this is incredible. But then, well, it's incredible the amount of money that comes in, but you start with a dollar.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. I mean, I'm also trying to aggressively pay down the... Into the mic. I'm also trying to aggressively pay down the debt. And so because there was one debt that's no longer there. It was like one loan that I like just, I paid out $1,500 and that and I closed it last month. Because there were three abstract personal loans. I'm trying to aggressively pay off debt. Venmo's out $250. Go to Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Go to Jam City. Does this. When was my- Go to Starbucks. Has a subscription to Washington Post. I don't care. Hulu. When was my dog trainer, because I have a little dog who's anxious.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Okay. But when we're trying to get out of debt, maybe not the best time. Well, you know, the dog's anxious. I'm sure. Probably anxious from all the debt. Juggernaut. Yeah, just got to support brown journalism, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:19 How about support you not having an endless amount of debt? Do you take this seriously at all? Yeah. Yeah, it's just, I find humor the best defense mechanism. Are you sure? Because I think you might find Starbucks to be the best defense mechanism in your life. Hey, Starbucks is, you know, I need my morning. Yeah, you need to not have debt.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And also brew coffee. I make better espresso than they do out there for much cheaper. So I actually usually get... DoorDash, Wolfgang Bakery. That's the groomers for my dog. Again, trying to get out of debt. He's a poodle. I can't like.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Good for him. He needs a, he needs a grooming. Yeah, use a $5 pair of scissors. Starbucks. Dude, is this endlessly going and Uber eats won't stop. I think, to be honest, I don't think I'll over it's that much anymore. I think maybe like once or twice a week. Not really.
Starting point is 00:11:17 It was a few times a week. But then also Uber and and Uber and and Uber and and doing a photo booth thing an Uber and Uber and Uber and Uber and Uber in. Oh, guess what? We're Uberin. That was when I was in New York for my birthday. Yeah? Otherwise, I drive.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Good, yeah, because birthdays, you know, they really care about your debt. Yeah. Starbucks, Starbucks, Pandora. Pandora, who has Pandora? I do. Well, yeah, but who has Pandora? Well, I don't know. I just, I just never got in.
Starting point is 00:11:53 to what's the one that everyone? Hotels, hotels. Clarna. Great. What's Clarnia? I don't have Clarnia in here. Oh, I finished. What do you have finance?
Starting point is 00:12:03 What did you have finance? It was a very old purchase. I think it was like shoes, like a year old or something. It's closed. I don't have any, I don't have any clarnas anymore. I still have an firm. I had a Peloton, but I sold it. Then we're now, $880.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah, that was paying back a friend who load. me money when I was poor. I'm glad you pay them back. Yeah. More dog stuff. There's your Pelotan membership. Cancelled because you sold it? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Good. Yeah. I sold it last week. Amazon Vemowing out 300. We're vemowing out so much money. That's again. PayPal something for 17. The PayPal.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Jam City, Jam City. Dude, this doesn't stop. And this is just a single month. And this is like so many freaking pages. Mm-hmm. Yeah. More dog crap. And I love my dog so much.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yet you are trying to get out of a bad situation. You're going to all these like extra luxuries that are not 100% needed. Well, his costs now have gone on because I got him in December. $1.5.00. Traynor. Anyway. Taking out $100 in the ATM. Who knows where that went?
Starting point is 00:13:18 So I was doing like the cash thing, like the cash envelope thing. just like only spend $100 a week. Good dog spot. That's a daycare, doggy daycare. Stop. Because where is he going to go when I'm working nine hours a day? Home! Where like everyone else's dogs are.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But he's going to poop everywhere then. Why? Train him. So I got him in December, last week of December. He's a puppy. Three months. My dog pooped inside twice maybe when I first got him? Well.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Train him. Google some things. Well, yes. Venmoing out. Sixth. Venmoing out. Venmoing out. Ben moving out.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Going to a spa. Yeah, that's what you need when you're trying to go out of debt. Yeah, I'm talking to this really serious right now. I've matured going into all these, doing all these things. Starbucks. Starbucks. Why will this not stop? This just keeps going.
Starting point is 00:14:10 More doggy daycare. Why will this not stop? So he no longer. Starbucks? He no longer goes to daycare though. He no longer goes to daycare. Where does he go? Now a dog.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So I said it was, it was a. month of February. As of March, he's trained enough to stay at home, but a dog walker comes in. You spent all your money. That's like half the price. You barely had anything at the end of the month. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's, uh... Are you really doing everything possible to get out of debt because you're bull-shunding spending so much of your $13,800 that comes in on a monthly basis? Yeah, that is. I wouldn't, I would say that I'm trying to pay off the debt, but I'm not, I'm not incurring anymore. I only like, I only spend on my checking account. I, don't like use my credit cards anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Good. Have you chopped them up? Clearly not a credit card person. They're not, they're not, I don't have them. They're like sitting at home somewhere. Like, even right now I don't have them on me. Do you have a savings account? I do.
Starting point is 00:15:05 How much is in it? There's, I have two. I have an ally bank account that I just opened. But I'm worried that ally might fold as well. There's like 150 in that because I just opened it. It's FDIC insured. I know, but. I highly doubt you have more than $250,000.
Starting point is 00:15:23 in any of these banks. No, I don't. And you don't have anything to worry about. Yeah, well, true. How much you have in savings? $300? $300? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Okay. But I have retirement. And that is... Yeah, but we're not pulling from that, so it doesn't matter. I had to when I was... When I was unemployed. How much? I pulled $7,000.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So we talked about... the $15,000 you went into debt. So really, you spent $21,000 to live in three months. Yeah. That's shit. Yeah. Plus. You did not go lean.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Don't throw the word lean around here. Some people live off of $30,000 a year, lean. Yeah. Yeah. But I also had to pay for all the other things that they would, that from all my licensing and stuff. And then. Yeah, but we already talked about that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah. But a lot of my money ends up going in interest, though. Oh, a lot of your money ends up going to all the. Starbucks and doggy daycare in a rent that you shouldn't have got because it was stupid and a rent you still shouldn't have because it's 25% of your large income where the most of that should be going to pay it off this debt. Yeah, I agree. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:16:37 Because you're trying to justify every single thing in the world. What are you even here for? So I actually, I feel like... Talking to the mic. Okay. I feel like I need a better roadmap of what to do. Thank you. I have gotten, I actually have gotten better.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I know that's, hey, look at my credit karma. I went from like 530 to 570 in like a month. Yay. But, I know. You're getting better. It's still shit though from what we just looked at. Yes. Getting better, like, at one point is that actually a good thing?
Starting point is 00:17:15 Like, you're, the progress, I don't know where it was before this, but it's still it. It only matters if you're actually in a good place. Yeah. No, I agree. I guess it's... Could be an alcoholic, it can go from a bottle of liquor a day to a half a bottle of liquor a day. Wouldn't call that half a bottle great.
Starting point is 00:17:31 That's true. So I guess for me, the fact that I'm not incurring any more debts is big progress. That's good. And then I just didn't... So I'll be honest. I didn't really understand. So I always thought, oh yeah, if I want to pay off my credit card,
Starting point is 00:17:48 it's fine. I can keep using it, but I have to keep paying it off. But I just didn't... It didn't completely. compute that that's a stupid way to get out of debt. And so a lot of my, like, my chase card, like, my interest is, like, $400, like, it's insane. And so it took me a while. So, like, really, when I was like, okay, I need to, like, get serious.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I'm 31. Then I realized I have to, like, stop using all my credit cards, which I did. And then I also realized that it doesn't matter. I started doing the math, how much I'm pulling from saving from retirement if I, if I'm losing so much, like, the math isn't mathing with all the debt. that I'm like incurring with all the interest and so I decided to like I still contribute but like less than I used to um and so I've slowed that down as well because I just didn't I guess I had no idea what's your 401k contribution percentage it used to be what is it uh right now it's
Starting point is 00:18:46 1.5% how much is matched uh so it's it's like a it's a percentage of how long you've been working there right now they're matching 25% 25% of contributions for you yeah so like whatever whatever whatever I'm contributing they'll match me 5% of my contributions if I contribute like a thousand they'll contribute 250 up into how much um up till I think 6,000 something like that they'll contribute 6,000 or up until the 6,000 or up until the 6,000 you put in I think they will contribute up to no actually my My 6,000.
Starting point is 00:19:23 My 6,000. But they will, but if you work there for like five years or so, they'll do 100% match. But I've only been there like six months. So I've added 25%. All right. So that's why I didn't stop the contribution because I'm getting free money from them. Depends what your interest rates are. Usually 401k match is like, do it because it's 100% return on your money because it's 100% match.
Starting point is 00:19:47 But if it's only a 25% match, we'll see what the interest rates are and these even are. might not even be worth it in that situation. Oh yeah, the credit card interest rates are horrible. The loans aren't that bad, but the credit cards are awful. Well, let's take a look. Yeah. So the first card, we have a balance of, and this is your prime card. I can't believe you accrue this on a fucking Amazon prime card.
Starting point is 00:20:08 $5,800, $3.35. Minimum monthly payment, $278.12, as of right now. Oh, yeah, $122.22. dollars of interest charge this month. Let's just keep adding up your interest as well. Crazy. Yeah, the interest is a lot. It's the other chase one that's super painful. Did you say you stopped purchasing on cards? When did you stop purchasing on cards? So there's some like that are on like, I have some auto deliveries, but I pay them off like right away. Like if I, if it's like 20 bucks. What are the auto deliveries? Like toothpaste and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I just get them in bulk. They're cheaper for my money. Amazon. But auto deliveries I'm seeing and Prime Video is not an auto delivery. Yeah that was
Starting point is 00:20:59 That was a subscription that I didn't see. 9. 10. 11, 12, 13. So you have 13 things on auto delivery? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Trash bags. Tea. Ice tea. Okay. Cut that. Okay. You don't need it. I will.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I doubt you need I doubt there's 13 things that you need. I actually have cut it. Tooth paste? Yeah. Get it. Garbage bags?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. Get it. Dog food. Okay. And then poop bags. So I have cut a bunch of them though. Cut all them that you don't need and I don't even know what they are. I will cut most of them.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah, the Prime Video was my brother when he was there. He like he made her account and I didn't realize and I've cut it now because I don't really do Prime Video. At a 26.7.4% interest. So again, the 401K match makes no sense at this point because it is not. Beating that. Yeah. Now we have a Chase Sapphire. This one is really awful.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah, it is awful. This one hurts me. $9,675. $89 with a minimum monthly payment of $413.33. $33 on a monthly basis. Death, you're losing on a monthly basis $2.22. $7.5 in interest. And there were fees.
Starting point is 00:22:22 charge of $9.11. This month. What was that for? That was a plan fee. A what? A plan, if you make a bigger purchase, and if you, and they will like do a, they will do like a two are from DoorDash plan fees. That was, that was from December.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It's from December. No, it's not. Yeah, no, the plan. February 12th. Yeah, no, the plan fee is from recent, but the actual purchase, because I'm still paying off. Something from DoorDash? Yeah, because it was like
Starting point is 00:22:56 a big amount. Cancel it. I don't care. It's DoorDash. You don't need it. And we're looking from the last little bit cafeteria
Starting point is 00:23:09 purchase at where you work. Pack a lunch. DoorDash. Barnes & Noble. DoorDash. Dude. Dude. Some Paw Place. In Amazon.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You are not making purchases on a card where you're losing $222 on a monthly basis, right? Does this make sense? Yeah. Yep. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:23:38 The reason... Oh my gosh, 27.49% interest right. So again, it doesn't make sense. The only reason, usually I don't get angry at people. I get angry at the debt, but I'm a little angry at you because you're just justify, justify, justify, justify. Here's a story.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Here's ten stories. Yeah. So... No, I mean, I agree. Oh, here's another story. It's like a dumb situation. There's no story. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:59 There's that story. So we also have PayPal credit. Yeah. This is the one that I'm focusing on with the Snowball method. It is now. So that's the method you're doing? Yeah. Small store.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I was thinking, so I wasn't sure if I should do Avalanche or Snowball because I have such high-interest debt. All right. Well, we'll assess. So. We'll assess. Yeah, but I'll assess. But based on that, I'm paying this off right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Minimum monthly payment $115 Yeah, because your minimum monthly payments are stacking off, aren't they? Interest charge, luckily this one's nicer than the other ones because the balance is lower of $10.18. Yeah, and I'm about,
Starting point is 00:24:46 this one's, this stym's a little old. $36 of purchases. Stop! Can I see that? It's an Uber? Oh, that was probably by an accident, because sometimes my PayPal will automatically go, but I don't really, I'd never use my PayPal credit card anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:09 In UCA, something, USA, something, US. Gas, maybe? Yeah, possibly. Because sometimes, like, it'll automatically, like, go to the credit, and then I, like, have to reach a change it back. And this one's a 28% interest. Stop making purchasers. Car, debt.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yes, it's a lease. A lease term? Three years. What's the lease amount? 718. No, that's your monthly payment. What's the payoff? 20,000 approximately.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Jeff, payoff of a lease? Is your payoff to get out of the lease? I think so. I mean, that's, yeah, that's what I have to pay with in the next three years. What is this car, possibly? It's a Toyota Raff 4 hybrid. Is that a nice car? Not really if you do ones are.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Yeah, it's 2020. I mean, I had terrible credit when I got it, so I got it last year. I got a lease because I'm not a car person at all, and I don't know anything about cars, and I don't know anybody here. I don't know anything about cars, but I know for a Toyota, whatever, $20,000 to pay over the course of just a couple years, with a $718 minimum monthly payment on it. here. Yeah. It was, it was, like, not the best deal, but.
Starting point is 00:26:34 It was not the best deal. But I needed an SUV because I live in a snow area. You don't need an SUV. I lived... Like, I needed, like, I needed, like, an old-neux. No, no, no. I lived in, like, the fifth snowiest college in the United States. And I had a sedan the entire time. You get snow tires, you're fine. And it was two-wheel drive. And I delivered Jimmy Johns. Justification, justification, justification, justification, justification. So I lived in a very warm climate. I've never driven in snow before. You learn. It was scary.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Oh, it's very spooky, but you learn. Yeah, I actually, there was the nor'easter, I drove last week, and my car slipped twice, and I was like, that's it, I'm going to die. You're driving very safely. Mm-hmm. Okay. I might need to take a driver's class. If you're out there not being able to drive, that should not be the fault of the rest of us who were driving around you. I was driving, I mean, the car slipped, but I was careful.
Starting point is 00:27:25 You have student loans, no? Very little. basically the $3,000 amount, but they are not, you cannot access them because they're from a different country. I don't have like a statement from them. Like, and they're in my dad's name. So it's like, it's not even under your name? No, it's my dad's name. Are you paying, are you going to pay though?
Starting point is 00:27:45 So my dad paid off half of them. I'm going to pay off the rest of them, but the interest is like 2%. So 3,000 is what you're going to pay? Yeah. I just want to make sure I put it in your thing. Yeah. And the interest is 2%. Good to know.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah. So it's like every now and then. then I'll throw in like $200 in that because it's not even $3,000. It's actually in Pakistani rupees. And because our currency is doing really poorly, it actually, the number actually keeps going down. So the debt that we've gone through is the debt that you have. Yeah. That is not really real debt.
Starting point is 00:28:15 It's just like, ugh. Not really real debt. Yeah. I mean, it is real debt. It's like 2%. So. And we did the upstream. Do you know the interest for the car that was locked in?
Starting point is 00:28:27 I have no idea. The lease, I really don't, would not. No. It's raining 26. Yeah, it's going to be something really awful. But then I also have the upstart loans because they are, those I have on my phone. I can get from Credit Karma because I didn't know how to pull the statements from them. I had three, but now I have two because I paid off the oldest one.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So this was the one, this was the $10,000 loan. I paid it off February 2023. Is he? You paid this off? Yeah. Just now. And then it was 10,000. And then I have this other one that is 7,000 that I'm a third paid off.
Starting point is 00:29:20 The minimum payment is like 100. So $7,000 is left on it? No, $7,000 was total. Now it's $4,700 is left on it. What's the interest? It is. It's actually, it's 7%. Okay, minimum monthly payment?
Starting point is 00:29:32 it's 130 so after i'm done with the pay what is the interest that is accrued on a monthly basis already accrued is accruing like on a monthly basis right now um 7% i mean like in terms of number yeah it's 7% it says on per month it's like 1185 oh yeah yeah that makes sense yeah so so this is actually not the worst one you're paying you're losing on a monthly basis and I don't even know the car I mean the car is probably even worse with the deal that you're in but just the other debts you have outside of your car and outside of the student which is low anyway but $367 in interest on a monthly basis you are currently losing which on your income should not be the case makes no sense there's another loan what is it it's another upstart there's another one it's another upstart yeah what's this for
Starting point is 00:30:34 So this was all of like basically the amounts that I didn't have any cash for. I also had to pay for moving. And so it was just a lot of expenses that came out of a fellow salary. I used to make $3,600 a month. And so that was rough paying for everything. You made over, you made $13,000 over $48,000 of Americans. And you were complaining that it wasn't enough. So you just wanted all this debt and dollars.
Starting point is 00:31:04 No, 3,600 when I was still in fellowship as of June. I made 3,600, a month until June 22. Okay. So now, yeah, this is the last, this is the other one. How much is left? This is a lot. This is 9,000. 19,000?
Starting point is 00:31:20 Uh-huh. Death. Yeah. Minimmon monthly payment? This is 450. Oh, yikes, yikes. Yeah, so a lot of my... Interest, right?
Starting point is 00:31:29 24. Oh! 24. 24. 24. Yes. Okay, this is it. That's it. No more? No more sneaky little hidden debt? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Minimum monthly payments that you have. And if you were at the incoming right before, it would just be insanity. I would be like... $2,104.9 on a monthly basis. Yeah. Crazy amount of money. And none of that's going to anything productive. It's just things you've already done. Yeah. It's the stupidity of 2021.
Starting point is 00:32:06 16% of your post tax. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, it hurts. It trust me. It hurts my soul when I think about it. Does it really? Because you're going to Starbucks and all this bullshit
Starting point is 00:32:18 instead of going full priority to get out of it. How much is it really hurting? Yeah, no, that's also true. I just, I try justified by saying that, okay. Yeah, I'm trying to justify everything. Yeah. That I'm saving money in the morning. The more patients I see, the more money.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You're not saving money in the morning. Make espresso at home. I'm saving time in the morning and time is money. Coffee. Curegg! Yeah. Get the cheapest $75 Kyrgyz thing that's on a Walmart shelf.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. Actually, someone gave me an espresso. So I will make nispros. I actually got a bunch of creamers and things recently because I was like, maybe I should start making more coffee at home. I haven't made it yet. It's in the fridge.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Okay. Okay. Okay. What's your utilities on a month of basis? So my electric is 200. Connecticut's super expensive. Internet is like 70. Gas is around 60.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Water is like 20. Phone bill? Oh, it's like 40. I have like a super cheap plan. But I also have to pay for my brother's phone. He's in college. 70. Yeah, my, my...
Starting point is 00:33:40 You have to. Because my parents said that I have to. Fuck your parents. I don't care. Are you not 31? Are you not an adult that exists in this world? Yo, I get like really emotional phone calls for my dad. And then I'm like, okay. Okay, so that's manipulation.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Tell them the fuck off. Yeah. They also want me to pay his rent. I told him I wouldn't pay his entire rent. I would pay a portion of it. Health insurance was taken before. Yeah. And it's like really low.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Rens insurance, car insurance. Car insurance is high because I wasn't driving for a long time. I started driving a couple years ago. It's like, I would say, $200 a month. And then... Ventures is probably like 20, right? Yeah, like $15.20. And I already paid off the policy with six months.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Oh, okay. Then we'll just do the 200. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not paying for renters right now. And the car is also paid off until April, last month of April, because I did the chunks. Last month of April? Yeah. Then I have to redo the,
Starting point is 00:34:39 then. Last week of April? Yes, sorry, last week of April. Okay. Yeah, because after, I do the six months, like,
Starting point is 00:34:47 um, chunks. Can you give you groceries? I'm going to give you groceries. I'm going to give you groceries. Okay. Of $300. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm going to give you total paper money as in anything else you need to just, you know, operate the household of 100. I will give you dog money of only $150. No more of this bullshit that you're constantly doing. That's food and, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:14 That's food, essentially. Food. Oh, my gas. Gas is 40 a week because I drive 20 miles, one way to work. So 40 miles a day. Okay, so I average that out to about $173 on a monthly basis. Anything else is required on a monthly basis. I think so
Starting point is 00:35:41 Not really I mean Every now and then They'll be like wet bills for the dog Because like I said I just got him And he needs to get neutered next month So that's going to be an expense coming up You couldn't
Starting point is 00:35:54 I mean I want everyone to have a dog Because I love dogs I love my dog so much Yeah You're not in a place where you can afford to get a dog Yeah Shouldn't have But it's done
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah And it was the first few months were expensive because he had like the worst separation anxiety. Now he's gotten a lot better. So now he's just, he just has a dog walking come in. Congratulations. Your needs in order to survive on a monthly basis,
Starting point is 00:36:18 $6,97. This includes like the minimum payments or no? Which is 50%. That is the minimum monthly payments, which is 50%. So your needs are 50% that is correct. So your needs categories max out, meaning if there is anything we're missing
Starting point is 00:36:34 or anything at all that just happens, you're blown out. There's nothing else you can do. But the good news is you have $6,800 left. In reality, not after you're spending, but in reality we have $6,800 left. Yeah. Cool, congratulations, $6,500 left.
Starting point is 00:37:03 PayPal's gone, and the first upstart is gone. and the first upstart is gone at the end of month one. Okay. Second month. Your Amazon card is gone and you start putting a little towards the Sapphire. Okay. Then we're in the third month. All goes towards the Sapphire.
Starting point is 00:37:19 It's almost paid off. We're in the fourth month. Oh, wait. Did you get my, I have an other credit card. The Master Card, the Bank of America MasterCard? You didn't send it. I did. You didn't.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Well, all your minimum monthly payment on this master card is going to be above your needs are going to be over. It's actually not that bad. What's the debt amount? It is 57, but the interest rate is lower. 57 what? 100. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Did you think 1,000? Yes. No, I'm not, I'm not that crazy yet. But the interest on it, and that is like, it's lower. It's like 17%. Minimum monthly payment? 150. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So, yeah, month number three, instead of what you did With the Sapphire, you're put it towards the master, and then master's paid off. And then with the Sapphire, you put it towards it for one and a half months. And then Sapphire is paid off. That takes us to your five and a half months in. Then we have the upstart. So I should do the snowball method. I think that's best for you.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Okay. Then in three months from there, so what do we say? We were five and a half. By the start of month nine. By the start of month 9, the upstart will be gone. The last one? Yeah, the big one. The big one.
Starting point is 00:38:43 The big one. Then at this point, I would just pay off your $3,000 to your dad, get that over with, and then put everything else for another three months towards just pay off this car lease. So buy it off early. Well, yeah, you pay it off early and then, yeah, just pay it down the $20,000. and then you have it for the next two years looks like, ish. Yeah. And you can choose to buy it out or get another car at that point in cash.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Okay. Which you can easily save up for with your income and without all these minimum monthly payments. Yeah. Your life is incredible, incredible without these minimum monthly payments. You're maxing out your 401k and yearly basis. You have no reason not to. You're maxing out your IRA on a yearly basis. You can backdoor if you want to.
Starting point is 00:39:27 It doesn't matter. Yeah, I can't do it all the IRA, but I'll have to, I figure out how to backdoor it. But I'm going to do it once I get out of debt. Max, max, max. But you have to get out of debt. It's probably going to be like a yearly process. But it only works. This only worked if you stop to Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:39:42 You stop the, you stop the endless bids at all these Amazon subscriptions that you have been continued justified throughout this conversation. And I, to be completely honest, because I'm a very forward person and it would be responsible for me not to on the side of the table. I have zero confidence in. Zero confidence. You have not shown me in any way throughout this conversation that you're going to cut back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Well, I have cut back because I used to be, I used to like eat out all the time. Like every single day, I don't do that anymore. And as opposed to, so the Starbucks, like, it might, because it just says $25, but like the amount has gone down because I used to like get breakfast. And now I only get a coffee because I eat at home. Okay. Well, now you're only making coffee at home and you're only eating from home. And your grocery bills max the $300. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:27 If you follow the plan, you win. If you get your way through it, this process. process, these interest rates at 25, 30% are going to continue to balloon. And you're going to be doing this for years and years and years and you're going to be falling behind our retirement. Because what's your 401k balance sitting at now? It is 11,000 because I have to pull the 7. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:45 So you're already well behind 31 years old. So you need to start catching up. But in order to do that, we have to do this. And you need to get a six-month emergency fund. Your six-month emergency fund is going to be pretty expensive. Yeah. You're about $7,000. Well, actually, after we get rid of the debt payments.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So you emerge. Well, do you haven't an emergency? No. Your savings right now is the $3.000. So I would add an extra month of this process, and I would quickly put $7,000 into savings. Okay. So that you can cover everything for a month in the worst, worst, worst case scenario.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Yeah. One of the reasons. One second. Let's get your emergency fund figured out. So right now it's about $7,000. But after your minimum monthly payments are taken care of $5,000, times $7 by $6, $30,000. That's your emergency fund.
Starting point is 00:41:31 That's great. Yeah. Okay. That's what you do after the debt payment. So now we're like a year and a quarter, a year and a half. Yeah. So my goal, I know that it sounds like I'm not serious, but I am. My goal was to get out of debt this year, 2023, and by the end of 2024, save enough
Starting point is 00:41:48 to get a down, put a down payment on a house. That's a great goal. Lots of people have goals. You have to take the action necessary to do it. Yeah. I love hearing about goals. I need to see action. I need to see you actually doing this.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And I want you to do it while. I want you to be a success story. There's just been something. Maybe the audience can tell me, but there's just been something about this conversation. Yeah. Or I just cannot gain the hope that I wish I had. But not the hope, the faith. But the hope is there.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah. Please do well. Please do well. I mean, I want to because it hurts my soul knowing that, like, interest is just like, it's all my money evaporating. But if it's actually hurting you, your checking account would reflect that. And right now it doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I just, I guess like the one part of me is like, oh, you know, like I have this high income. So it is really a big deal if I get coffee because other people in my situation are living much larger. Like they're buying Chanel bags and stuff and I don't do that. Yeah, we don't compare ourselves to what people, what stupid people are doing. I know. So that, I think that's like a big, you know, just looking at people who are in my situation. And I'm like still trying to get out of debt because. I have to support like my brother because my parents make me
Starting point is 00:43:06 and I wasn't supported as much so Well have the conversation with them tell them how dire situation To show them this video and show what you're doing Your plan is to get out of this And then say you can support the crap out of him Once you are in a better foot But right now you can barely stand Yeah
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah And also if they're manipulating you into They can go for themselves honestly Yeah it's it's, they're retired, there's not much they can do. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:34 they own their house. What pisses me off about them is they own their house, they own their cars, uh, they actually own a plot of land that they got for my brother's education. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:43:44 oh, we're not getting a good price on it, so we're not going to sell it. And they expect me to pay for him until they sell it. And it's a little annoying. Because like, that land is like,
Starting point is 00:43:53 like, oh, we, we're getting like, this many thousand under what we're asking. I'm like, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:59 you don't really need it. You don't need that. Like, this was supposed to be for him. Just don't let them manipulate you. Just don't let them manipulate you. Yeah. I mean, honestly, like, the phone calls, like, I just got two days ago, like, messages from my dad. Like, please, please, please, please, please pay his rent.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I just paid for his ticket. And it's... What's your brother doing right now? He is in college first year. Undergrad? Yeah. Okay. Studying.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Computer signs. Where? In Saskatchewan. Does he have a job? No, I told him. He needs to go get a job. You're not helping until he gets a job. You can support if he's working and he's trying to do as much as he can.
Starting point is 00:44:40 If he's not, then no, no support. Yeah, I told them that he has to, because some of the win-mos are also for him. I told them that it had to, and they were like, no, he's like, he's not like you. He needs more time to study. Because I used to, like, work while I was. Well, I've said it a few times and I'll say it again, then go fuck himself. I don't care. He can help support himself.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And if he is actually putting in the work, then you can support. That's fantastic or they can support. But if he's not doing the work, then there's no support. Yeah, no, I agree. I, yeah. It's like, a lot of times I'm like, yeah. And he'll learn real quick. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yeah, he's a little spoilt. He was visiting me in December and he didn't know how to cook or anything. And I was like, honey, I'm not going to cook for. you and within a month he was cooking. I'm not good at cooking. I mean, that's, I know, but he would make my mom up at 3 a.m. to cook for him. And then I was like, I'm not doing that for you.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah, he's definitely been spoiled. Yeah. I can't say you necessarily haven't been as well. Yeah. So just get your stuff together. I will, yes. Follow budget, download any budgeting app. I use rocket money.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I used to use mint. They're all good, whatever. I have mint. I have mint. Fantastic. It used to be that I, I will say, I'll tell you why I've gotten better. I used to, because I used to have a lot of anxiety about my financial situation, I would never look at my finances. Now I look once a day to know exactly where my money is going.
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Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah. So this will help you spend on certain categories in a correct way. So use FIS, it's good. That's why I partner with them because it's perfect for the most people on this show. Is it a secure card? It's a debit card. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Any final thoughts? I know I probably sound really entitled and spoiled. I'm not. I just, this is just how I cope. But I do have my goal. And it's been a rough few years for us doctors. Have mercy, especially infectious disease doctors. But it's been a goal of mine to get out of debt.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And I have. There was another debt that is not here because that I got out of in January. It was another like person loan that I paid off. And then I owed somebody else money that I paid off too. So I've been like paying off my debts like almost every month. But the problem is now. And I was trying to pay off people before I paid the cards because relationships can get messed up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:19 So I paid off those first. Since it has been an overall negative conversation, though I don't see what it was before, I'm happy that I'm hearing that progress has started on you spending. Not as good as it should have been, but I'm happy that there's been progress, and I'm happy that you have started to pay off some of the debts. So progress is happening, and we can celebrate that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Just buckle down and get it together. Yes, I will. Hammer Financial score 0 out of 10. I am in pain, pain, pain. We even checked my blood pressure afterwards because she's a doctor, and we could check it. That's on Instagram. Check it out, which you can follow.
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