Financial Audit - Financial Audit's Biggest Crashout

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:17 of premium and get my cookbook and notebook signed and mailed directly to you. Link in the description and pin comment below. Hi, my name is Alexandra. I'm 30 years old. I'm from El Paso, Texas, and this is financial audit. Thanks for coming over. So what do you do there for living? I am in the military and I have a side business. It's a lash business. What are you in the military?
Starting point is 00:01:43 I'm in the military. We have lots of post military. We don't usually have a lot of in military. What do you do? I technically drive the dragon trucks, the dinosaur trucks. That's my job. What the fuck you're talking about? Do I have to serve to know that?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Okay. What is your position? Or what branch are you in? I'm a driver. So I'm in the Texas Army National Guard. Oh, is that full-time? It's part-time. Oh. Well, you can be full-time and part-time.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But you're part-time? I'm part-time. But you have a side gig. I do have a side-gig. How part-time is part-time? Part-time is like three to four days a month. Okay. Listen, that sounds like the side gig.
Starting point is 00:02:27 If it's three to four days a month. Why is there a side gig for the side gig? It's not a side gig. It's my job title. I'm just not on orders. Like, I don't do it full time. But it's not full time either. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:38 So you have a side gig for a side gig. Kind of. I mean, no. Not really. Okay. Well, what do you make from the Texas National Guard? Um, like $300. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So it's a side gig. Okay. I'm just talking math-wise. Whatever the title is. Come on. If we're being real, you're not living off of $30, $300 a month. Okay. Obviously, Caleb.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I'll write down a sick, $300 a month. Woo! We're making it. Okay. And what does your side gig make? What is it? I make 35 to 4,000 a month. There, that is money. We'll call 4,000 hours a month total.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Add them both together. What's your side gig? It's a z-lash. It's his lash business. I do lashes. I do eyelash extensions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just looking at yours.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Okay, my lashes are not done. Uh-huh. But I wasn't going to say it. So what do you do? I'm a licensed eyelash technician. Okay. And I put on lashes on women. Cool.
Starting point is 00:03:40 How many hours a week do you do that? Like 20 to 30 hours. It's not bad. I mean, so are you getting paid hourly? Do you get commissioned for different lash jobs? I haven't set up to where I make like $60 an hour, but average sets take me like 90 minutes. So when you say you have it set up, what are you doing? Are you going into someone else's place?
Starting point is 00:04:01 or are you just going to people? No, I rent a suite and a salon. Oh, yes. I'm a cello. I've accidentally walked through places like that, yeah. It's weird. It feels like a mall. A mall for getting things done to your face.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah. Okay. And had. Interesting. Well, $4,000 a month. El Paso, definitely on the, not the expensive central and eastern part of Texas. So how are we living?
Starting point is 00:04:30 How are we doing? How are you feeling? feeling? Great. My wife is rich. Wife? Okay. How long have we been together? Wait, your wife is rich? Yeah. She's full-time military. Same branch. And that's rich? Well, she makes... Wait, what's her rich? What's rich? Like, she makes a lot of money monthly. How much? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Well, because is it rich or not? Like, let's find out. From like 8,500 to 10,000. Okay, so she's definitely like upper middle class, gotcha. Okay, rich could be like, she's making like millions. Are you saying I'm lower class because I have my own business? No, I think you're middle class, which is great and awesome and entrepreneurial and I love that. But when I hear rich, I think rich is like, fucking like, oh, they can do whatever. Well, it's pretty rich for some people. Okay, okay, that's not the point.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Okay. You use the term out whatever. It doesn't matter. Okay, so an upper middle class wife, good. How long have you guys been together? Um, like 15 months. Does she not? So it's a pretty young marriage.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Okay. Is she 30 as well? Well, married for like five months. So it's very young marriage. Wait, you've only been together in general for 15 months? Yes. But married for five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Wow. Okay. So interesting. How old is she? She's 35. Okay. Very good. Anyone bringing, I assume you guys haven't had kids together, but does anyone
Starting point is 00:06:02 bringing in kids into the relationship? I have two kids. You have two kids. I do have two kids. What about her? No kids. How old are your kids? Nine and eight.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Where'd that come from? My first marriage. You've already been married. Three times. Yeah, don't get married. What the what are you doing? I would say yes, get married to the person you love that you want to be with for the rest of your life. This is your third or fourth?
Starting point is 00:06:33 This is my third. This is the third. Okay. Statistically for you. you, I don't know. And two women also. Well, no, two women together. I mean, statistically highest divorce rate.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Well, it's two women out of three marriages. So. Have you been married with women or men? Not that it matters. The first one was a guy. And is that the babies? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:01 That's the baby's dad. The baby's dad. Baby daddy, sure. Last wife. Well, ex-wife was. It was. Okay. Was what?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Woman. Oh, okay. Obviously, it's an ex-wife. Gotcha. So, okay, what are we talking about today? Because if the new wife, the new fresh-found marriage, which I'm sure will be the third of about 20. Easy. Well, just going off of your consistency.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Wow. What? Have you seen the show before? I promise. Huh? It's the third and it's the last. I promise. It doesn't mean anything to me.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I don't care. All right. So, okay. So, 4,000 hours a month. Obviously, we're focused on that. You have a lot of debt. But if we have a rich wife legally married, what is the financial situation in the household?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Are you guys together? What are we doing in terms of finances? Because this is fucking insane. Do you guys see how much this is? I haven't had this much paperwork since borderline. And we had a theme to week called Fat Sack Week. This is crazy. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So what the fuck is going on? Well, she has a lot of debt. She! So this is not just you. This is both of you. I've only contributed 15 months of that. Well, that could be. I don't know how much is accumulating.
Starting point is 00:08:30 What debt isn't a time? What the fuck? It's a number. I don't know. Because she was married before me. You were married before. hurt. I'm saying she was married before me
Starting point is 00:08:42 and all of this existed before I did. I just maybe made it worse a little bit. Hop, hop, hop. Okay, so we're just it's fucking duck, duck goose. Okay, so. Gotcha. How many marriages that she had? Um, I'm her second
Starting point is 00:08:58 and last. You seem sassy. Well. Okay. This is out of the gate. We haven't talked about anything. It's like, He's going to calm them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I get it. It's a far drive from El Paso. So. I flew. But yes. Well, then you should be fine. I don't know what the fuck you're on about. Well, cause I had two hours asleep, Caleb.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Okay. Okay. So are you saying all? You said I only contributed 15 months of this. I didn't say all. I said maybe 15 months. That's not even what I just said. I just said that.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I said you, oh my, my, I just said you, you said you contributed 15 months to this. I don't know what 15 months. months equates to it's 15 months this much it's 15 months this much it's 15 months this much it's 15 months what's 15 months because this isn't months these are numbers i don't know how what what is you what is her why is she not here why i'm only talking to you what's happening because she's in the military and she's active duty so she can't be here she couldn't be here today okay okay so remember she's full-time i'm part-time i don't know what but you guys are in el paso are we and are we invading new me Mexico? I don't know what's happening. So household income. What's the household income on a monthly basis? Do you know? Are you guys combined financially?
Starting point is 00:10:16 We recently just combined. Okay. There's a step. Did you know about all her debt going into this? I didn't. Why are we married? Oh, because you guys move very quick. Well, so lesbians do. That's what I was saying. What was the question? I don't remember. So. Neither do I. in here, what's the household income? That's what I asked. What comes in on a monthly basis? What has the account? Total on both ends, $14,000 a month.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It's incredible. Why are we in debt? What's happening? Well, we recently just joined finances, which, if I'm being completely honest, I kind of regret doing. Why? Well, this is the forever person, though. Okay. It is, but I didn't...
Starting point is 00:11:10 Now her stuff is, like, stressing me out. I don't have as much stuff as she does. Yeah, because you got married before we met each other's parents. Well, obviously. Oh, actually? That's actually not good, probably. I don't know your relationship with your parents, but that's probably not good. Okay, so we moved into this quick.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You didn't even know her debt? No, I didn't know her debt. What's that? You don't go on a first date and be like, hey, so what's your credit score? Even though people actually just joke about that kind of stuff. Yeah, you're right. Nothing happens between the first date and marriage. Are you fucking stupid?
Starting point is 00:11:39 What are you talking about? I'm you don't know you didn't you guys were together for 10 months before marriage right yeah I guess did you have more than one date yes okay so why didn't you guys ever talk about money when who when do you guys how long are you engaged how long are you engaged we were engaged for four months I think you guys were only dating for like six seven months okay first of all we were dating for two weeks and then she moved in okay I'm telling you it's a gay thing I just thought it's not it's a lesbian thing I thought she had a handle on things She was married before me
Starting point is 00:12:15 Ex-wife didn't work Stay-at-home wife They were married for seven years And she didn't work And so Which one didn't work? Which one didn't work? Her ex-wife didn't work
Starting point is 00:12:24 So she was a stay-at-home mom She also had kids So I was just putting things Wait, wait, wait Does your wife have biological children? No, she does not. Okay, so the kids have not come
Starting point is 00:12:34 So it's just your kids It's just my babies I'm building the picture, keep going Yes So her ex-wife didn't work for seven years and she's been in the military for a very long time, and I just assumed, you know, two plus two equals four.
Starting point is 00:12:48 She has it handled. Wife is not working. Two kids. She makes enough money. Her being in the military has your hand. Those are the people that are usually most of the money. Well, and mental health.
Starting point is 00:12:57 They gave us a bad rap. It's not, well, I don't know. This doesn't help the situation either. Yeah, but why did you assume that? Why wouldn't you guys? Why wouldn't you guys have one conversation? Does she know about your finances? No.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Oh my fuck. So, who proposed? She did. It came up in conversation that her credit score was like 700. So I was just like, oh, shit. Well, I guess it used to be. Does she know her own finances? I think so.
Starting point is 00:13:29 She just doesn't like to tell me. So you kind of suggested you regret a combining accounts. Why? Just the debt or what's happening? Because it's stressful. It's fucking stressful. Like a lot of it is on her end. And I just.
Starting point is 00:13:46 What's the stressful part? Just the debt? Is she blowing all the money? Both. Like if we have 14,000 hours a month, net. Right? You would think it's El Paso, Texas.
Starting point is 00:13:55 There's a lot of fucking money. Yes. So why? Maybe you can answer that. Maybe you can answer that. Can you not answer that? It's because we both have unreasonable spinning habits and it stresses me out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:14 So it's not just her. is now. So it's not just her. She has the debt, but you both have the spending habits. That's what you just said. I'm saying the debt that existed before I did. I know. I have now accrued because we're married.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But you can leverage this massive household income to pay off that debt, but you're not willing to cut back in your spending. Do you view it as her debt? Not your debt as well. Well, obviously, with your language, you viewed it as her debt. You guys don't view it as combined. I feel like we're just. But it is combined.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It just sometimes I look at it and I'm like. Yeah, but you call it hers. I feel like we're just friends with flaps. Like, at this point, you're not actually, like, legally married. Sure, but you're not acting like you guys are together forever. It's hard. She, I see things with reason and she doesn't. So, and she makes most of the income.
Starting point is 00:14:58 You said your spending habits too, though. Okay, because she makes most of the income and she's just like, I want to go buy Pokemon cards. Can she go buy Pokemon cards? Probably. She can probably budget it. Can she budget it? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Well, there we go. So it's not just that. What about your spending habits? Um, I don't have any. You said because of her spending habits and my spending habits. You don't spend money. Sometimes. What?
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Starting point is 00:17:50 That's it That's it I don't have I don't buy shoes I don't buy anything I don't have hobbies It's just the house has to look nice So I buy stuff from Amazon
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah that's the best decor Most long lasting So we know what comes around on a monthly basis How much did the household spend last month? probably like 7,000? Yeah, because you're the knowledgeable one, right? Or who's the knowledgeable one about the household finances? Me.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I look at it more often than she does. You look at it more often. 7,000 came in, 14,000 came in, 7,000 went out. So you only spent half. Wouldn't debt be paid down, though, if only half was spent? You would think. I would think, which is why I just said it. So please tell me how that works.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Okay, so we went on a big trip. That is spending. That would count towards money going out. Do you not count that? No. I just count bills. Okay. Let's reassess.
Starting point is 00:19:01 You said household expense. I did not. I said what went out versus what came in. I did not say household expenses. Okay, well, our household expense is like $7,000. Congratulations. I would also like, I'd like to reassess this. okay
Starting point is 00:19:14 what went out how much went out boom household income that's probably what I said household income how much went out I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:19:27 probably like 65, 7,000 that doesn't make sense you just told me the household expenditures expenditures are 7,000 hours well you're supposed to make it make sense you said you went on a trip
Starting point is 00:19:37 we did and it was great okay that would probably mean the money went out is more than just your household expenses. So how much do you think went out? How much the fuck do you think went out? How much do you think went out? $10,000.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Okay. Where did it go? To the trip, I just told you. Where'd you go? To the Philippines. Is that where you're from? Yes, I'm Filipino home. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Full bread. Congratulations. Thanks. It's pretty great. So, yeah, it was $25,000. What's $25,000? That's the number that was spent. That's what went out.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Last month? Last month. No. We don't even make that much money. What do you? No. That's the point. That's the conversation we're having.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Somebody miscalculated. What are you on here for? What are you on the show for? To fix finances, Caleb, and to save my marriage before I'm Why the f-the-f didn't you just say that? Because that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. Because there's no way. We don't even make that much money a month.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's the point. You're in debt. You put more on debt. Your debt went up. You mean like on credit cards? That is a debt. What kind of person did you guys find? I'm concerned that she doesn't have, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I'm concerned she doesn't have the mental bandwidth for a conversation involving numbers. That's the Like credit cards Yes like credit cards Are you kidding me right now What are we talking about? Well, because you asked how much came in And then you asked how much went out
Starting point is 00:21:30 So I thought you meant like checking account Are you stupid? Neither Is she on board to get the finances fixed? Like What have you guys talked about money wise Now That we need to get our shit together?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, I feel like you said that. I did say that. Cool. Where's her head? She's hopefully on board. I don't... Oh my... Did they leave you? The other marriages? Did they leave you? No, I left. Um, rude. I filed for the divorces. Probably not. You filed for the divorces? Are you sure you didn't just get like lost from the house? Yes. Okay, okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. You left, whatever, whatever, whatever. What is the conversation that you guys have? You don't even like, No. You don't even like know where she's at. Right? Is that what I'm hearing? Not 100%. Like we... Why? Why not listen to her? Or does she not talk? What is the state of this conversation? I need some kind of insight. We just talk about it sometimes, but it's not... Finance is our hard conversation. So like we don't budget or anything. We're big on... We're really big on convenience.
Starting point is 00:22:46 On what? Convenient. Oh, okay. I'll get you guys, obviously, on my... budgeting app. Make sure you guys download it. Link in the description below. I'll get you that for free. The premium version for free. And everyone that gets the premium version gets a signed cookbook mailed directly to them. So, yeah, you get that.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And then you guys can budget. But my concern is through this conversation, you're not actually able to tell me how these conversations go. You say, they're difficult because they're money. How do they go? Walk me through the last conversation. How long ago was it?
Starting point is 00:23:24 I know it might be difficult for you to remember more than we could go. Oh my. We don't talk about money. It's just like, okay, we have $2,000 left in the account. This world is broken. After bills are paid. You say you want to get out of debt and you told me you guys talk about it. I just want to know what her opinion is.
Starting point is 00:23:50 What's her fucking opinion? She agrees. She agrees that we're fucking that we have to change habits. But we don't. Do you guys, do you guys, do you guys, on what you have to do. Yes, but I feel like, well, obviously
Starting point is 00:24:06 we have to budget. It's a good first step. So. So what? What? I feel like I see our finances with a little bit more reason than she does and she likes to spend
Starting point is 00:24:25 unreasonably. So she's not willing to cut back. Yes, she said she is. I just haven't seen it. Have you cut back? Yes. I feel like you probably haven't. Well, not this month, no.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Why not this month? We just got back from vacation. I'm still on vacay mode. When did you get back? Like two weeks ago. Philippines had expensive travel, but it's cheap when you're there. So it's like what? Two weeks, two weeks?
Starting point is 00:24:56 Vacay mode? Is this the new stupid version of birthday month that I'm being... Well, we did spend our birthdays over there and we were also there for three. How are you guys there? Three half weeks. That's a long. I get the other side of the world being longer than normal because it's a long trip. It's an 18 hour flight.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Exactly. But you're back. It's time to buckle up. Yes. Tighten the belt. You had your vacation. You guys have an insane amount of debt. If I don't start going through this debt, we're never getting out of here.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Okay. All right. Where do you think your household? Do you know what that means? It means you and her. Okay. Where do you think your score would be financially? Zero to tens.
Starting point is 00:25:38 You're being the worst, 10 being the best. Ten is a number. So it was zero. You can give ten numbers in between there. Five. Five. Have you seen this show? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I've seen the show. All the time, actually. You're welcome. Were you closing your ears and eyes while it was playing near you? You think you're a five. This is some of, this is the, one of the biggest stacks of, okay. Guys, if you want your hammer financial score, you're not a fucking moron. Sorry, sorry.
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Starting point is 00:26:33 Oh, God. What? No, we're just starting with like a fucking insane balance. We do spend $25,000 a month somehow. We don't. Shut the fuck up. Yes, you do. That's literally what you do.
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Starting point is 00:27:06 $480 That's crazy What is up with this card? That is a crazy balance And crazy minimum monthly payment Even with your super strong income That's a devastating minimum monthly payment Devastating
Starting point is 00:27:21 Please tell That's not my card Well it is now mine But there it is You figured it out You got there Well legally But
Starting point is 00:27:32 depends on a few things in the end. But, yes, I think it is best in a marriage that we consider it all ours. What made you come out of the gate with? It's not mine. Because I didn't. This is what concerns me about your guys. This is fast-moving 50 marriages before 30 lifestyle. Like-
Starting point is 00:27:55 I couldn't even get approved for a $1,000 credit limit in a lifetime. You probably can't manage it. And yes, you would. but what's going on with it? Do you know? Oh, you don't even know. Well, okay, so I think that card was used. This is Southwest. Did you use this for plane tickets to the Philippines? No. Okay. It was used for our very first couple trip to Las Vegas. How often do you guys travel? All the time. Okay, you're broken. You guys are broken. Technically we're not. No, listen, you guys can't afford life. You simply can't afford. But we do and we've been. You don't. You know, your debt goes up.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That's why you're able to spend what you spend. And it's going to get pushed to a limit where you guys aren't going to be able to make it. And bankruptcy will be forced upon you. We're just not going to go see the world. Yeah, you're just like not going to go see the world. You said it. You figured it out. We're not going to go see the world.
Starting point is 00:28:49 You're not going to go see the world. Credit cards just manage our lives. Yes. No. Then what are we doing here? You're supposed to help us. in what way I'm not a magic pill
Starting point is 00:29:08 buddy if I say hey maybe you can't do a luxurious vacation once a month and that's why I're in debt Okay first of all it's not even a month If I just give literally the most basic thing And tell you to cut out the most expensive thing That maybe you do once a year instead
Starting point is 00:29:23 Max which I wouldn't even do I'd get out of fucking debt Then maybe Maybe you'd be willing to cut that back So I don't know what the fuck Is going on here This is so stupid. This is so stupid already.
Starting point is 00:29:39 So dumb. This is the first card. You have to be receptive. If you're sitting at this table, you have to be receptive. Or I'm not fucking filming. I am receptive. I just don't agree with your logic. Please explain.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I mean, you know, everybody has debt. No. Yes. Oh, fuck. Everybody has debt. No. We're just not going to have, we're just not going to go see the world. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:05 and not go travel just because credit cards have to be paid. You have to go make memories. You have to make memories. What are you going to do? Just stay in your house and fucking work all the time? No. Literally? Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Buddy. Is that what you do? Is that where you're just so miserable all the time? Well, yes, I am building a business here. So I do put in more work than you've ever put in your entire life. But I also have results to show for it. And you have nothing to show for it. I know you like free things.
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Starting point is 00:31:39 the mental energy, the stress, the zits. Instead, your next vacation will be living under a bridge and you won't be leaving there. And guess what? She won't be there following your track record. So, yeah, I say we cut back. You've already been married. Three times. When do, how often?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Maybe like every three to four months. No, you can't. You can't go once a quarter. Buddy, you are, you can go on road trips here and there. I could maybe slot in a big, a trip once a year. We can see the world. You guys have a strong income to build up a nest egg to go see the world. Okay, so instead of screaming at me, do that.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I mean... I can't do that unless you're willing to cut out the trips for a moment. Okay, after July, we will. What's coming up before July? What's coming up before July? So I have a son who has a conjure player. What is that? I don't know what that is. It's a form of dwarfism.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Tread lightly. How do you get that? It's a genetic mutation. So anyway, once a year they do these conferences, and we, I try to go, we try to go every year. Well, I mean, that sounds happier. That's not to go see the world. It's in, like, major cities of the state. So major cities? Yeah, like one time it was in Austin. This year, it's in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Careful. It's easier to lose them there. So I... I mean, get the check. Sorry. I'm so sorry. She's laughing. It's okay. It's okay. She's laughing. Usually I'm the only one allowed to make jokes. It passed the test. I'll take it. And him. And him. Listen, I'm okay with that part. I'm okay with... I'm okay with those things that are good for, you know, a development of a kid.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That's where... I think all travels are good for your soul. Sure. But like, I'm... But I'm willing to... put in things like gym, right? Like, I'm not cutting back from gym. There are things that are good. And you're right, traveling probably is good for the soul. But listen, because he has, like, a disorder?
Starting point is 00:33:58 A diagnosis? What was diagnosed? A disorder? I don't know. Whatever it is, we want to support it. And this can be a good way to do that. So I might not be fully opposed to that. But a trip to the Philippines, I'm probably fully opposed to because that's not supporting someone in a curious situation.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Well, it's supporting me because I get to go back home to my roots and my family. Yeah, but you have a long time to do that statistically. And I would... What if I died tomorrow and I never went back home? I said statistically, but also if you died tomorrow, you won't know that you didn't have gone. Right. So this also won't matter if I died tomorrow. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But let's bet on the statistical likelihood that you will live until at least mid-70s. statistically Right Yeah So I'd rather choose that That doesn't make any sense Do you see Do you understand the logic
Starting point is 00:34:51 I just used? Well, I just Do you understand it? I need to make sure you at least understand that Yes, statistically yes, I get it But also it's just not No What because statistics are not in charge
Starting point is 00:35:01 Had I died tomorrow We wouldn't have been able to Live like the Kardashians in the Philippines Had died tomorrow You won't know that you had lived But also had I died tomorrow This wouldn't matter Exactly, exactly. That is what I'm saying. If you died tomorrow and you didn't go, you wouldn't have regretted anything because you're dead. You don't regret when you're dead. You're dead. But if you, on the very high chance, live tomorrow, I'd rather you be in a place where you're not completely...
Starting point is 00:35:31 But I would have gone and I would have had that memory. I don't think... With my whole family, all 23 of them. And what genetics were past the year? your brain, I'm curious. Great ones, if you can't tell already. Hey, listen, you're defensive. It's natural. Are you serious? Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:35:59 I was going to defend your defensism. Defensism. Not a word. That's, yeah, that's, I'm just thinking isms when I'm looking at you. Just, I'm sorry. That's just, that's what's in my head right now. It's time to refresh your yard during spring backyard days at the Home Depot.
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Starting point is 00:36:59 It is normal to be defensive I would like you to actually Just think though Just think be more receptive I'm not being defensive I literally explaining to you My thought process behind Hopefully you guys are enjoying this
Starting point is 00:37:14 Because my enjoyment is gone That have been made Hey you're purchasing on a credit card on the 14,000 stupid dollar credit card, $1,17.70. Is she purchasing? You're purchasing? Are you authorized user?
Starting point is 00:37:25 I don't think so. I'm not an authorized user. I don't have a card. I don't have access to that card. Okay, so she's purchasing. Do you know she's purchasing? Are you okay with her purchasing? I don't know that she's purchasing.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Okay, now you know she's purchasing. What do you think? Well, it's her card. My debt. So that sucks for both of us. If you guys have a conversation about this, Will she stop purchasing or are we wasting our fucking time? Maybe she will.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I don't know. Oh my gosh. Maybe I hope so. This is the least productive. Yes, she will. Yes. Yes. You're just saying that now.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Okay. Three to 36 hours of interest recruiting one single month on one single card. That is insane. Basically at its credit limit, no one's surprised. Is it fucking Amazon? You guys share your Amazon account? or independent accounts? Independent.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Why would you pay for two separate Amazon primes? Well, I added her to mine and it didn't work, so I think she's still paying for her. Just log into the same account. Yeah, we could do that. What hair you guys? What fucking laboratory were you guys invented in? This is insane. This is insane. I am so fucking confused on the way you guys operate. Buddy, I don't even know what the f*** to do.
Starting point is 00:38:49 So you guys just got back from the Philippines. How much did you spend there to live like the Kardashians? Well, half of what we spend here, so that's great. You're just as stupid as them, too. You talk like them, you act like them, you want to be them. The last smart one was the fucking grandpa who defended O.J., and he was wrong for that. So what the... How much did you spend?
Starting point is 00:39:13 That's rich. Like $3,000. Well Are you sure? I don't think you'd know Because you thought you only spent 7 to 10 or whatever The flights
Starting point is 00:39:25 Alone were like $3,000 Then you spent more I meant Like once we were there Like spending money $3,000 Okay I feel my veins right now
Starting point is 00:39:39 Which means I'm getting stressed And This is This is so stupid I don't know why It's a credit one card. Great. Credit one card.
Starting point is 00:39:47 At the top of the fucking deck. Do you know what this means? Do you? How many episodes have you watched? Credit one is the worst of the worst. Oh my gosh. She actually walked away with something. I'd watch a show.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Then why are you being a... You're over the credit limit. Whose card is this? Mine. You f***ed, dude. You know this is... Okay, let me explain. Can I explain before you start screaming at me?
Starting point is 00:40:19 It was going to be an explanation to this? Yes, there is an explanation to this. My credit history is really young, and this is one of those things that's like, high chance of approval. And I thought... Hey, Jake! When you had a young credit history, did you ever get credit one? You did? Oh, but you didn't open it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Hey, Lindsay, we had young credit. Did you open credit one? No, neither did I. That's interesting. So what the... You're saying this is the only option? No, no, that was before your time. I wouldn't have opened it had I known.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I'm your age. Well, on YouTube, I mean, this, it was like four, five years ago that was build your credit. So I opened it. Also, it's only a $300 credit limit. Good. So, yeah, that's great. Could be worse. Yeah, it could be higher and you would abuse it.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's what. Well, we don't know that. It's like, I do. Look at everything you guys do. What do you mean? We literally know that from your finances. Not me personally. You're purchasing on a credit one card?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Okay, you've been watching my show for long enough not to fucking purchase on a credit one card. So what are you possibly doing? Why purchase on this card? Because we run out of cash. Then you are purchasing on things you cannot afford. It is simple as that. Yes, but like we paid for everybody in the Philippines. Who's everybody?
Starting point is 00:41:47 My whole family. I told you all 23 of us. Oh, big breeders. Okay. That's insane. Um, okay. And you paid for all of them? Yes, because it's what you do when you go home to a third world country or the one in America. You're rich, so you go home and pay for everybody's meals and drinks and vacations. This doesn't make any sense. You guys were already in a stack of debt and you couldn't be in that situation to pay for all that. It's not even a fucking thing. normal i always recommend the fucking fizz card to everyone on the show not you not you great for everyone
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Starting point is 00:43:37 yapp sessions can be just as confident as mine with stunning white teeth. So you owe $302 on a $300 limit because we manage life so well with a $30 minimum monthly payment. Oh, good. You took it up from $55 to over the credit limit. That's great. It's for Marshalls. It's for Target. Target.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Target. I needed stuff. La Nube. Amazon. There's your annual fees. Just the fees that are hitting. $177. This year so far.
Starting point is 00:44:09 $7 in interest. It's only a $300 limit. It's fine. Good. Yeah, right. Why would you spend to it? Pull up your Amazon. Pull up your fucking Amazon.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Let's see what all your relatives are making overseas. Um, I don't even know what's on here. Ugh, you are just, you are the mintiest creature I've ever seen. Does this smell like mint? I don't have any mint. It's attached. It's so, uh, I just got to delicately touch this thing. Do you want head sanitizer?
Starting point is 00:44:41 I want for you to listen. Well, at least you're Seemed like halfway nice person When you all of a sudden feel Is that your wife? How the fuck else would be on my phone? One of your other Four wives?
Starting point is 00:44:59 I have two Had Had, I have one. Why did you leave the man While I'm pulling this up and getting connected to wife? Obviously, because I was gay, hello. Oh, were you full gay? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Is that even a thing, though? Full gay? Well, I don't know. You left a dude. You have to categorize yourself? It's 2025. I don't know. You said you were gay. So you left a dude. I did. But now you're saying you can't be full gay?
Starting point is 00:45:29 So you wouldn't leave a dude? It was the first thing I've ever been with ever. I know. That thing produced two children. And I'm grateful for it. How long were you guys together? We were together for four and a half years. Take. Okay. Did you, did you just tell them that you were gay and you left? What do the kids think of the gay? I guess they've been around double gay now for a while, so.
Starting point is 00:45:55 They think that love is love and they're happy that mom is. Yeah, but you leaving dad. Well, backstory. I was raised Mormon. What the fuck? Like they're going out to the islands and pushing hard? I guess. Like born into Mormonism.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Wow. Born and raised in the Philippines. and I was Mormon up until I met the kid's dad. So he's the one that got to have multiple wives. Well, yeah, I was trying to please and appease parents that were super into the church. But I still did it with the wrong person because he was a lot older than me. The man, the man, the baby man? Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:36 How old? Well, how old were you? I was 18. Okay. Holy, an adult, sure. And he was? 40s. Oh.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's substantial. It was a lot. It was substantially different. Parents were not happening. How the fuck did you guys? Your parents, you're Mormon parents. My Mormon parents.
Starting point is 00:46:59 So you weren't doing it to a piece of church. Well, they wanted me to be with a guy. So I was like, okay, here you go, here's a guy. What did you do? You just, what? Streets of Salt Lake? Wally, it was my recruiter. Huh?
Starting point is 00:47:11 He was my recruiter. Recruiter for what? The military? Yeah. Oh my gosh. How'd this go down? Well, I tried to enlist after high school I got disqualified for medical reasons
Starting point is 00:47:24 And he was my recruiter So when I got disqualified I was no longer an applicant And I was fair Did you move? Did you move? He made a move Why the fuck would I make a move on a...
Starting point is 00:47:35 I don't know You married him and did two kids Okay All right We're missing a puzzle to this story I was Mormon And I got kicked out Because I tried to come out
Starting point is 00:47:46 Gay I knew before I was with him And gay people love to sleep with people way older than them. So this is really, this is consistent. We're just hitting all the stereotypes today. I know. You're matching them. So.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Okay, fine. You left them. Good. Why did you leave the second one? There was infidelity on both ends. On both ends? Come on. What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:48:09 Every time, I'm not even close to homo folk, but I'm about to say, every time we have lesbians on this show, they all cheat on each other. What is happening? I had reasons. What was your reason? Yeah. I was activated and she wasn't there for me. You sleep herself?
Starting point is 00:48:29 No, like with the military. Come on. Oh, okay. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. Okay, keep going. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Sorry. Activated with the military. So I was gone for a long time. I was on mission and I needed her support and she couldn't give it to me. So I found it somewhere else. That, come on. No, not fair. I'm confused that why that equals you go f-th-someone else, though.
Starting point is 00:48:58 No, it doesn't, but also you're supposed to be there for your fucking wife, and she wasn't. Could she have been? Yes, a lot more than she was. How? She could have gone. Where were you activated to? I was only eight hours away. Okay. So she could have made the drive. Did you tell her to?
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yes. Okay, then why didn't she just break off and be done? Don't cheat. Well, because she had my kids. How many people you cheat on with? What? How many different pairs were you on? Why does that matter? Come on.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah. How many people were you with? One. So that's a lie. Okay. Literally doesn't matter. It was the principal. Like, see it from my point of you.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I'm sure your current wife is going to love this. Open this. Open this. I got your Amazon pulled up. And then she cheated on you because she learned you cheated on her? Yes. Were you cheating with women? Oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:49:54 How often were you cheating? Okay, what often were you cheating? What do you mean? How often were you cheating? What classifies us often? Like how often would I see people? Yes. To go get drinks and stuff?
Starting point is 00:50:10 If it's with that intent, yes. Not often. How often? Come on. I was talking to multiple different people. Did they know? Did they know what? Oh my gosh, you're a fucking creature.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Did they know that I was talking to multiple people? Yeah. No. I do. Listen, you don't know until you're out there. You can't. The loneliness and the camaraderie that you need and Then don't get married.
Starting point is 00:50:37 The support that you need from people. And don't get married. This is why military people get divorced. And we have a bad rap. Yeah, you were the bad rap. After you cheated. I'm like with like a thousand different kids. She cheated too.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Let's not forget that. Two wrongs don't make her right. Because you did. Two wrongs don't make her right. Because you did that. It's still. Still. still not okay. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:50:56 What I did wasn't okay, and I acknowledge that, but you don't just go fucking fuck up. So you got from like ocean, screen protectors, more screen protectors do we need? We went to the Philippines. Also got sunburnt. We went to the Philippines. That's where everyone gets their screens scratched.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Philippines is going around. Phone screens. I thought he said sunscreen. Nope. That might be sunscreen. An iPad case, probably for the iPad kid. phone case what is this poker set maybe no that's like cure eggs or something crystal
Starting point is 00:51:28 Deco brothers tempered crystal something cubes water pets boy with a video game Nespresso capsules Nespresso capsules Makeup and face
Starting point is 00:51:42 Dude none of this is like a necessity There's not a single necessity here No it's almost Easter time It's almost what It's almost Easter time Oh my God We need The Easter bunny is coming.
Starting point is 00:51:55 So. That's for candy. There wasn't candy in here. The Easter bunny at our house. Do we do different Easter's? My Easter was candy. The Easter bunny at our house is busy. So.
Starting point is 00:52:05 The Easter bunny at your house is in a lot of debt. The Easter bunny at your house never knows what house to go to because you're with someone different every year. Not every year. The Easter bunny at your house was probably inside of you while you served. And none of these are necessities. This is crazy. You go crazy on here.
Starting point is 00:52:30 You go crazy. I did tell you earlier that Amazon is my weakness. I know. I know. So, at least I was forthcoming. So imagine the return on your investment if you just put that money in stocks and Moos Savings account and Fri-Fing anything. It'd be just delicious. But instead, you're a moron.
Starting point is 00:52:47 28% sorry, not a moron. That I shouldn't just be slinging insults. I could throw jabs, but insults is no point. What are we doing? I'll just get upset, and that's where my brain goes. Amazon. Oh, great. So you're Amazon card or hers?
Starting point is 00:53:02 Mine. Okay. Oddly, not even that many purchases, but of course, purchases. Fees! $40. $40 and $302.30 of interest. $31 and $42 of purchases. You're at the credit.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Let me. What is the fee possibly? What is the fucking fee possibly? What is the fee for? Uh, lay payment? I don't know. Great. Oh my gosh. So nons. You don't give a, you don't care. Of course I care. I don't.
Starting point is 00:53:33 That's why I'm here. I can't tell. I can't get in your brain. You're sassy. Then you say you're not. You're defensive. Then you say you're not. And it's just like, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I'm trying to tell you why these things. Yet there's a nice part of your personality. Yet there's an aggressive cheater. Yet there's, I don't understand what you are. I might not know how to get through to you. I can get through to most people. I don't know. You're an enigma.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I'm kind of great. actually. I'm sure in other contexts, not this, $379. 59 with a $50,000 minimum fee. It was a late fee.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Why are you late? The one who manages the finances of the house, the good one. I forgot. How can you forget? Why don't you have a calendar? Why don't you have a budgeting
Starting point is 00:54:23 like ours? Okay, I do. I do. I get a wild hair of my apps and I'll just put, I'll make a budget. You what? I'll get a wild hair up my app
Starting point is 00:54:34 and make a budget. You're not military anymore. Well, yes, you are. Fuck me. So it's going to continue. Okay. Wrap them up. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Keep going. What I'm trying to tell you is, I need you to listen. Are you listening to me? Unfortunately. This is going to help you figure me out. Yes, unfortunately, I am listening because I had no other choice but to say here. I make a budget, right?
Starting point is 00:54:56 And then I don't follow it after like a week. Yeah. That's why we're here. It'll last maybe two weeks tops. Yeah. And then Amazon calls, for me at least. Shut the fuck up. You just have to make your minimum monthly payment is what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Just your minimum monthly payment is a first start. But doesn't that accrue interest and stuff? Yes. And now the balance is higher because of the $40 late fee, so the interest will be more. I guess I just forgot. Why is it not on auto pay? Because sometimes there's no money in there. the account.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Then why don't you have a reminder for when it's due at the very latest? I do. I get emails. You don't check your emails probably because it's 20, 25. And you don't have a job. I do have a job. Does it come through emails? My job?
Starting point is 00:55:52 No. Well, there you go. So you probably don't check your emails. Set yourself a reminder. Set me a reminder for blah, blah, blah, blah. At this time to remind me to pay Amazon. This is, we live in a world with technology. We live in a world of technology.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And again, if your relative is going to make that phone for you, you may as well use them. Okay. Okay. Great. Stellar conversation. Capital one. $1,9.40. $0.49 with a $68.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And a monthly payment. This is a capital one. Whose credit card is this? Wifee's. Okay. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save?
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Starting point is 00:57:06 When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton for the stay. Pays, temporary wife fees. $51 of purchases, $49.19. Of interest. Oh, good. $50 from the credit limit.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Who would have fucking thought? Did you know she was purchasing on this? Yes, that's... So you know she's purchasing on this one. Okay, this one. Okay. Why do you know this one, but not the others? Because this one was opened when we were already together.
Starting point is 00:57:32 This was used. This was opened solely for our wedding purposes. We had a really nice wedding. Of course you did, because you can't compromise. anything. Should have been a nice wedding. Do I even care if they ask? Well, yes. Maybe you'll feel bad for me if you do.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I'll judge if it's interesting and I'll cut you off if it sucks. We spent $20,000 on our wedding. Also. So fucking monic. Mostly credit cards and some from her dad. Beyond the 20 or he helped with someone. the 20? Within the 20. Oh, okay, good. Good. How much did he help with? Like six thousand. Like we owe him $6,000. Oh, so it's a debt to the debt. Well, he hasn't tried to collect, so that's really nice.
Starting point is 00:58:26 But was it agreed upon that it was borrowed? It was like a casual like, you'll pay me back. Huh? What do you mean? No, no, no. Tell me what was agreed. There was no agreement. It was a verbal conversation. It was like... And what was said? Dad, we need help with the wedding. Okay, here you go. I know you'll pay me back. Hopefully that's what happened. Oh, I mean, why do you do this? Why did you have to spend so much on this route to wedding anyway?
Starting point is 00:58:56 It wasn't supposed to be this big and it was. You didn't get there. Third one, you wouldn't need it to go crazy. Okay, that's not true because this is the only wedding I had. That's not true. I got married, but I didn't have a wedding. And this was supposed to be the last one. So I was like, okay, we're going to.
Starting point is 00:59:12 It's supposed to be. That's everyone. one was supposed to be the last one. That's, I didn't, nope, I didn't make those promises in the first one. You did when you got married. Anyway, we spent that much money on the wedding and we, it was only supposed to be like 10 people and then it grew to 60. Yeah, but it's, you get to choose that.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And I know it's hard, but you get to choose that. Well, it was hard. And it was mostly, I didn't have my family here. So it was just my mom and dad and siblings. It was her people. So 60 people, none of yours? Well, some clients and friends, it was supposed to be a family-only intimate wedding. If you would just let me finish.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And then the guest list just grew to 60. It started as 10, grew to 60. And then we were having our wedding. The venue people, it was in the fields at El Paso, Texas. The venue people didn't spray for bugs. So there's irrigation right next to them. So the mosquitoes, it was insane. Like the venue was infested with mosquitoes.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Okay. Okay, I'm almost finished. Listen, everybody got bit. It was really bad. Covered with mosquito bites. So we had to take everything inside, this tiny old house, and all of our setup that we paid for got left outside. So $20,000 down the drain.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah. The dance floor, the setup, the dinner table, the tent, the beautiful lights, all of it outside. So a lot of this is from the wedding A lot of what? A lot of the spendatures. What the fuck you're talking about? Shut up.
Starting point is 01:00:48 That is not true. You are still spending on this card when it is at its credit limit. Yes, but some of the balances from the wedding. Sure, but you're still spending on it instead of making progress. Okay, wait, here's the best part. What? No, what?
Starting point is 01:01:02 The best part is because our wedding was a bust, we decided to do it again in the Philippines. And it was an absolute success. if you wanted to know. And it wasn't as much. Success in every way, except for your life. But I have memories. Yeah, you also have $413,000 of debt.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So better be a lot of really good memories. Oh my, I don't even know. What the fuck are we doing? 413,000. That's not a thing. It's a... It is time to cut down your financial stress and gain total financial.
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Starting point is 01:02:49 You will not regret it. It went to HNFS West. What is that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Great. So keeping us at the credit limit for something we don't even know.
Starting point is 01:03:12 GECU. Who's this? Wifi. Okay. 4,737. with a limit of $5,000. So basically max out. And 27 cents with a minimum monthly payment of $95.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Great. Takes how long to pay off? Just minimum monthly payments, no more purchases, which you guys are typically incapable of. How long does it take to pay off? Just this card, the $4,000 one, not the $14,000 one we talked about at the beginning. The minimum is 95, probably like 400 years.
Starting point is 01:03:52 me give me a real answer I don't know 25 20 okay so I was close I do know my numbers sure and 25 is acceptable to you 20 is acceptable to you
Starting point is 01:04:06 obviously not and why are you guys still spending on all the cards and keeping them all at their limits there is not a single card to have not looked at that are not basically at the limit and one was over
Starting point is 01:04:14 and one was late we have to do stuff there wasn't there hasn't been one necessity yet. Yeah, we have to do stuff. We want. No, there hasn't been one necessity yet.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Okay, we want to do stuff. Okay, do you want to get out of debt or do you want to do stuff? Eventually. But can I do both? Can I get out of debt and, like, still live my best life together with her and the kids? Probably not. See, and that's not, why is that okay? It's not acceptable.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Who are you going to complain to and have that change? I just don't. This is the system. We were not put on this earth to just fucking be ran by. bills, bro. Well, congratulations. You made the choices that got you in them, though. And so did she. And so did she. And you guys continue to make the choices that get you in there. On this earth, we're not on this earth for any purpose. We're fucking born and we die. Like, you're making the choices you make along the way. That's really morbid.
Starting point is 01:05:17 But that's also just how the biology works. You're born, you die, and you live. You're making the choices along the way. I disagree. What do you mean? You don't just die. Granted. All this stuff. That's something different. I'm just talking about the life on this earth.
Starting point is 01:05:35 You know, we can believe whatever you want to believe outside of that. Right before you die, you only get one chance of this. So why not just go. Exactly. But your chance is going to be endlessly stressed, endlessly struggling. But okay, you're self-contraditing. Because earlier you were just, you were telling me,
Starting point is 01:05:48 I'm telling you that this, all this doesn't matter because you just live and die. So then what the, it's fine. Fine. Bills get paid. If they don't get paid, you die anyway, right? At the end, but do you want the next hopefully 50 years or so to be an endless struggle and you're not being able to take care of your kids or leave a legacy? If I get to see parts of the world as I go along, why not? But at some point, you won't be able to because you won't have the credit to do so, and that's the only way you'll be able to afford it.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I have that credit, Caleb, and I've been fine for 30 years. You guys do together. You guys do together, and that's how you're getting there. That's who you guys are getting there now And the kids matter too You choosing to seeing the world over them Is being a selfish That's a reach Because they get to say the world
Starting point is 01:06:36 Yes, and they get to have these memories with us They get to talk about being stung By jellyfishes in the Philippines They can get stung by the jellyfishes in Galveston Ew Have you been to the Philippines? To the Philippines, no But there's jellyfish everywhere
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yes, but it's a lot more worth They also have a one long time to get jellyfish. You're making it so that if they want to go to college, you can't support them. They're making it so... Not true. They're fine going to college with my military benefits. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yes. You got that part. Go U.S. Army. Sure. Yeah. Woo-woo. But... It's who-wah.
Starting point is 01:07:13 But... They might have to downgrade housing situations. They're going to see their mom. Endlessly fight with their other mom. No. Because, yes, because that's one of the leading causes for divorce in this country. No, it's not going to get there because I'm here. You're going to help.
Starting point is 01:07:34 That's not how this works. It's one of the leading causes. Shut the fuck up. It's one of the leading causes for the divorce in this country. And you're in one of the leading relationships for divorce in this country. The odds are not second in your favor. So you need to do everything possible to maintain this. And it's for the sake of the kids because they're going to endlessly see their mom hopping to hop into hopping to hop.
Starting point is 01:07:52 And then you're going to have nothing. And then they're going to have to put their life on hold at some point. I would never allow that. It doesn't matter. It's not about allow. It's not about allow. But if you are struggling later in life because you never prepared at all, who knows what it's going to be look like, that military disability might actually get fucking looked at at
Starting point is 01:08:09 at some point after this show. Imagine my babes having a mom that's like, no, we can't go there and no, we can't go there because we can't afford it and we can afford it. That's a responsible mom. No. Yes. You're also teaching them horrible, horrible lessons. That's not true because when they grow up, they're going to be like, oh, when I was a kid,
Starting point is 01:08:25 my mom took us here. It was pretty great. When I was a kid, we went here. They don't learn about sacrifice, though. They don't learn about the hard choices that you do it in a balanced manner. No, you don't. You go way overboard. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:08:38 We stopped doing birthday parties. We just go places now. But even still, you don't need to have an extravagant birthday party if you can't afford it. Like, that's just life. And I'm sorry, but life is life. We're not fucking promised anything. We're not. Again, so that's right.
Starting point is 01:08:54 This is the system that exists. And this system has gotten us, luckily, even though there are struggles, the system has gotten us to, it is better to be a human in our lifetime than any other human existence in lifetime that has existed before us. Okay, because of the technology, because the enjoyment's in life, because of the lifespan, because of the medical, because a lot of things, there is lower poverty in the world than there's ever been. And that's because of the system that we're in. In that system that we're in, has some things that suck. but this suck that you're in has all been your choice has all been your wife's choice so it's that
Starting point is 01:09:31 like even this was a put upon you i never said it was you complained about how we're not born to go through all this you chose to do this i did choose to do this so that my life here isn't wasted instead you'll just be wasting your kid's future because you won't have anything prepared for you so they're going to sacrifice when they're trying to take care of their own life to take care of their selfish mom. That's what's going to happen. I disagree. You disagree. Great. Okay. That solves the issue. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:15 And they told me you're going all out for your kid's birthday anyway. So that's just a lie. They say you're throwing this extravagant party. Okay, it's because she's turning ten. You're just a liar. She's turning ten. It's not extradict. She wants a murder, mystery, birthday party.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It's a extravagant. That doesn't constitute as extravagant. How much is it going to cost? I don't know, probably like a thousand minutes. Do you have the money? I will. No, you spend more than you make. Will you have the money?
Starting point is 01:10:47 Yes. This is the most obnoxious. You're the most obnoxious person. I've met in a very long time. No, I'm pretty sure it's you because you're the only one yelling in this room. Oh my fuck. But it's because of you. It's because of you.
Starting point is 01:11:02 And you've seen the show. What? Does this surprise you now that you're in person now? I just thought you were a big... How'd you even find your way to the studio from the airport? I'm surprised you're capable of doing that. Because I'm Asian and it's genetic for me to be smart. Then I think you'd be able to do math.
Starting point is 01:11:19 If you're really pulling that card. I didn't get that gene. Yeah. Is this another capital one, I guess? I mean, I'm getting lost here because there's... This is so much. This is fucking ridiculous. $224.84.
Starting point is 01:11:39 But of course, the limit's only $300. Great. This is yours? Yeah, you get the micro-dick ones. How did you know? The jeans. So with that, you're getting fees again because it's your card. So, of course, we're getting late fees.
Starting point is 01:12:00 And then there's a $6.90 interest. Congratulations. You suck. I'll pay it off. It's low. The other one's low, too. The other ones you have are low, and then you don't, and then they're late. Okay, so I'll pay mine off. Yamava Resort and Casino at San Manuel is California's number one entertainment destination for today's superstars.
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Starting point is 01:12:49 Not always. You've, out of here, you've had three that were yours, right? Three? Yeah. Two have had late fees. I forget. I'm really smart. I don't know how you survive.
Starting point is 01:13:08 I really. Well, I've done a pretty good job. I'm 30. No, you're not. This is not a good job. Listen, people have probably told you that throughout life to be nice, but no, you have not done a good job. You have not. You're actually closer to being a legitimate failure in life than being successful, much closer.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And I need some, I need to tell you that because no one has. Compared to whose standards? Yours? Compared to even the people in the worst positions, other than like, dog addicts and murderers and your basically the, no, it's really not. Yes, it is. I have a roof over my head. There's food on the table. No, I don't think that's going to happen for very long.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Well, you're pushing yourself to the limit. All of that you just said is a for now activity. None of that is guaranteed. And I'm sure you're going to claim disability after military, aren't you? Already, Bab. I'm getting it already. I feel like the show may have exposed something. And in the system, based on all the episodes we've had.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Oh, I pay a lot of taxes for that. Okay. I got hit by a car in uniform. Why? Because they weren't fucking doing their jobs properly. And I was on a wheelchair. Are you sure it wasn't because you were lost in the street? I was doing my job.
Starting point is 01:14:51 There's a past due fee on here. We're not talking about that anymore. I am. I'm getting us back to the money. 30% interest rate, can't pay the payment, interest is accruing. It's the second past due fee this year so far, and we're just over a quarter of the year in. And you're a mom. Good luck to your kids.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Don't question my mothering skills. I am questioning your mothering skills. No. Yes, you're prioritizing you and being selfish. That's not true. I'm a really good mom. Them getting nice little knickknacks and shit is not the act of good. Knitknacks. It's stuff that they need.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Not teaching them any responsibility, any discipline. I do. Anything that is going to make them be able to survive once they leave the house. They're going to be so fucking lost. They're going to get hit by a car too. And shove it right up. Your Harry. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:15:51 What? You don't say that about kids? I'm basing it off of how you've raised them. You're probably not going to have any. for saying that. Have any kids? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:04 There's a lot of life left. We'll see. I don't know. You can die tomorrow. Yeah, then I wouldn't have kids. That meant nothing. I feel like you felt like you just dropped the mic there. Yeah, because you're getting upset about all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:19 You want kids, and then you're just wishing kids to get hit by car. Why? That's what I said. Literally, you just did. You were like, they're probably going to get my car too. Because you didn't teach them how to operate in this world. your entire motherhood was focused around making sure they saw a jellyfish in the Philippines. No, I have happy kids.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Yes, exactly, but not smart ones because you haven't taught. You haven't taught them anything in life. Yes, I have. Listen, when they need it, I'll give them course careers. I'm not a yes baby all the time. They don't get everything that they want. I highly doubt that. They don't get everything they want.
Starting point is 01:16:55 If we haven't, we have it. We're not going to be in a podcast. The getting hit by a car was a call back to you getting hit by a car. and one of them also probably the car wasn't able to see above their dash. So, I mean, that's mostly it. It's the art of the podcast. That's not what happened. And it was actually very dramatic.
Starting point is 01:17:11 I was in a wheelchair for a year. I wasn't talking about you. The kids, for fuck sake, follow along, lady. You just said that my son's going to get in by car because they can't see over their dash. I said what I said. Do you not understand what I said? What is happening? That's what I am asking.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I'm, I'm close to, I'm close to fucking, I'm close to just fucking calling it. And I hate that because I've called it in a few episodes recently. And I really don't like that. I really don't like that. I want to get through. I want to get through. But there's so much left here. And you are incapable of comprehension and having a conversation.
Starting point is 01:17:53 You haven't actually said anything of me. I've recommended at least what to cut back on and how to at least manage your finances. Oh my. Yeah. I totally believe that. I'm believing it so much right now. I can't even believe how much I'm believing it. The fuck is on.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Oh, navist records. Navyist records? Okay. Rewards. Sorry. Texas small. Who's? Yours or hers?
Starting point is 01:18:20 Who's in the Navy? You're in the Navy? I thought you were in the Army. Okay. That's... Are you okay? Huh? That's...
Starting point is 01:18:28 See, like, you're good with numbers and can't read? It doesn't have anything to do with service. It says Navyist. yours. I thought this was a special Navy card. It's an old Navy card. Oh. That makes sense. It says on Navy, so I was, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Makes sense. I was going to say you're the wrong kind of gay for the Navy, so. Listen, we have $401 on here. Who's this? Is this yours? Who's going to Navy? Okay. You're going to Old Navy?
Starting point is 01:19:02 Great. $500. is the total line. You have 401. Fees 41. Again with you and your fucking fees. Dude, I can't. I don't, you're never going to get out of this.
Starting point is 01:19:19 You can't even just pay a minimum monthly payment. They're only late for like three days and then I get fined. Okay, it's hard because my personal income is on a daily basis. I don't get like weekly, byweekly stuff. I make money every day. I don't have the payment for $0.06,000, $0.24. $0.16.5. Purchases.
Starting point is 01:19:44 No, I don't think so. But there's interest and there's fees because you can't manage a single fucking thing in your life. There it is. Fees. Interests. It's all charging second page. Woo!
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yippee! We'll see what they can do. Next card, USA. I'm done. This isn't, I just, oh my, this takes 17 years to pay off. This is insane. This is hers or yours? Hearst.
Starting point is 01:20:20 2,000, well, this is the least interest-free. $2,396.9. The minimum monthly payment of, well, I don't know. I'm going to say 100. So that's what was paid last time. Nothing's paid now because it was paid. But it's a 0% for now. Maybe no minimum payment is even owed on it, and they just want you to go to the interest-free period and close it out.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I don't see when it's done. What's up with this card? Do you know anything? It's my wives. It existed before me, so I don't. No. So we did not talk about that card. No.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Right. Okay, Premier bank card. What about this? That's mine. Tell me. That was opened along with Credit One. Also, high chance of approval. That's, okay, that's the highest limit I have.
Starting point is 01:21:19 400. Five. Four hundred. Five. Four hundred. Five. Four hundred. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:21:27 It's literally 400. Stop being a moron. It's five on the app. They probably lowered it. Because you suck. Because there's a fee, you fuck. That's probably why. You purchase four.
Starting point is 01:21:46 $479.48 $0.00. Because the limit is $500. $393.83 and $82. minimum monthly pay by $30. $1.000. That's what.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Oh, fuck I'm done with you. I don't know how you've survived this long. I don't know what you're yelling at me. That's like that. Because you're only ever with someone since 18. This is the highest debt that I have. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:22:12 It's your attitude. It's your fucking attitude. Good. Be offended. I don't. give a fuck. Your offended means nothing. Amazon, Etsy, Amazon, monthly fee. Bulls, boll-st, holiday end, bulls, abl-o-s, maybe. Your pay your fucking credit card that is accruing fees and accruing interest. You're paying debt with debt. You're paying debt with debt. It's supposed to build my credits.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Oh, good luck to this household. Good luck to this, fucking household. Sake, man. Ah, good luck. Good luck. Good luck. I threw my pen. You don't know the pen. Okay, Sephora. Who's the Sephora? You saw my wife. Do you think it's her? No, I did think it was a man. That is true.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Okay. We are at Puzzlers. Sick. How? It's because you've only ever been with someone. You never had a moment of dependence. That's not true. I might require a diagnosis of child and you might need to get divorced. And just go live on your own.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I have. I have. You living on a military base doesn't count. I did not live in a military base. I owe my own house. I bought a house. What when you were deployed and getting giddled? No, after my divorce. What?
Starting point is 01:23:46 Which one? The second one, rude. What do you mean? I wouldn't know. How would I fucking know? I lived in a house by myself and I raised my kids on my own and paid my mortgage. For how long? For how long?
Starting point is 01:23:59 Like six months. Okay. You've never been independent. You've never been independent. It's better than you. You've not been married and you're my age, so. What are we supposed to get married? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:13 It's probably because you're just pissed off all this time. No, when are we supposed to get married? You should at least... Do you not get laid? Is that what it is? I do pretty okay. Not good for you. I'm at the medianaire marriage age.
Starting point is 01:24:28 You literally just looked it up. Yeah. Because you pulled out something. Does it make you feel better? Well, I like to know facts. So I can live in the real world. Caleb. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Usually the median first age for marriage is 30. So instead you did it three times by then. Yeah. And pumped out way out of you. With people you didn't even like. Yeah, good job. They made my life better. So.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Getting everyone look to this one. Moral superiority princess. Here she is. This is who you guys want to be. Sephora. So you can be the femme one. Sure. I got you.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I really hate these categories. These labels. Is that a thing here? What? Is that a thing for you? Like, you have to label everybody? You seen this show? It's all I do.
Starting point is 01:25:18 It's all I do is make little jabs. That money. That money. That money, McDonald's. You've done them all for yourself. Well... Uh, that's fucking two. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 01:25:33 it. What concerns me is, again, you do have a kid. If this was just you, but you have a spouse, you have a kid, and they're all getting pulled into this bull. $201.44. The minimum monthly payment of $48. Taping your fingers, are you bored? You're bored?
Starting point is 01:25:49 You're not getting anything? No, because you won't be receptive for a single fucking thing. Are you training for her later? I don't know. $201.43. That's the same amount. No, you wouldn't per- Okay. I'm really glad.
Starting point is 01:26:03 major purchases without even making a fucking payment. Well done. $37. The fees, $4.20. That's for the wedding, by the way. What? The purchases? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:14 When did you get married? In August. This isn't a statement from August, you dumb tit. Well, I'm saying I opened it in August. Congratulations. I don't give up your no payment and your purchases were last month, not in August. Late fee. And then purchasing Sephora.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Really trying to hide your. age there. I can tell. You need some. You stressed too much. I bet I got a better skin care routine. You stress too much. I am stressed. And it's for fucking you. It's for your kid.
Starting point is 01:26:55 And extra stress in this episode because you're not receptive and you're kind of a little... So it's, yes, the C word. We all use it. I'm just returning your energy, so... I didn't get upset until you started not being receptive to I'm irreceptive if you have substance. We haven't been through your finances yet to end anywhere.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Okay, carry on. In fact, I think I'm only halfway through. Carry on. 32% interest. Mattress firm. Her or you? Her. Great.
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Starting point is 01:28:21 In the military. Oh. We're in the same unit. Huh? We're in the same unit. Are you able to be in the military without other people in the military? I'm technically
Starting point is 01:28:32 never in the military. I show up like three days a month, so I don't know what that's supposed to mean. Thank goodness. disability for the rest of your life. Yeah. $120.70 is your minimum monthly payment.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Okay. So it's better be a really comfy night's sleep that you guys get, yeah? That wasn't bought with me. That was bought with her ex-wife. Oh, for a f***ic. Yeah. Well, who has it? We do.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Hate it. You have it. We have it. I sleep on it every fucking night. You hate it? Hate it. Why? It's so...
Starting point is 01:29:13 Because it wasn't bought with me. Who cares? Is it comfy or not? Previous stains that I'm sleeping on. Are there? You don't look? It's, you don't spend $8,000 on a mat. This is the shit I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Like, okay, yeah, my spending accrues, but it's like $80, $200 there. But who buys an $8,000 mattress? They did. Right? It's a zero percent interest. I could never. Well, you wouldn't be qualified. Yes, but even if we were together and she had, there's been instances where she's tried to make ridiculous purchases like that.
Starting point is 01:29:46 And I say no, because it's. She lets. Not justifiable. Half the time. Well, what the fuck are we going to, how are we going to make it to the end then? Okay, so you have to sleep on the access mattress. Well, good. I'd rather you have the asset than not. I guess.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Is it comfortable? That's fine. Okay. I wouldn't have paid that much for it. Probably not. Mattresses are overpriced, but you can give better deals online typically. I mean, she went into a mattress firm. That's when you know it's bad.
Starting point is 01:30:16 And you deal with a salesperson at mattress firm. She's so great. Which one? My wife. Okay. So we're already feeling weird about our current wife. No, it's not weird. It's just hard to tell her no.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Sometimes. This is going to go so well. This whole existence you guys have together is going to go so well. All right. What do we have here? GECU, 16.85%. Balance 14,622. What is this?
Starting point is 01:30:51 Please tell me this is like a, car or something. It's a loan. It's just a loan? It's a consolidation loan. For who? For her. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:31:00 She's, she needs to be here. She needs to be here. Okay, well, tell the president that. What does he make her do? I don't know how it works. Well, she works for him, so she can't just up and leave. Did they not have to get the travel?
Starting point is 01:31:14 She's not deployed, right? She's not deployed. She can't leave. She's on mission. Oh, she's on mission? Mm-hmm. Okay. Fine.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Okay, personal loan $14,622.60. $16.85% of interest. This is so fucking crazy, man. What's even the minimum monthly payment? Like, 402. Yeah. It's 402.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Okay, I was close. Relax. I'm basically done with you. I'm in 62 cents. This pen sucks. We took it out. out to pay off her credit cards. We?
Starting point is 01:32:09 Well, I had a hand in the decision. It was my idea. And I thought it was a great idea. Had we not kept the same behavior? But we did. Also, we spent like $2,000 on Christmas. We hosted. It was our first married Christmas together.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Andrew last, okay, that doesn't mean anything. Who cares? Well, it means something. is the lost. I don't fucking know, man. I've honestly just given up here. I mean, I don't... This is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:48 You're kind of crazy. You just now figure that out? No. No. I just unfortunately have to sit here. What? Are you having a great time? No!
Starting point is 01:33:08 I'm having a great time. Okay, so you're both... So you actually don't give a... Oh, I'm just... Oh, I'm waiting for you to give me substance. You don't give a single f-th. You don't give a single f-th. You don't care.
Starting point is 01:33:22 So shut the fuck up. Okay? If you don't give a-sh-th, I'm not spending time with you. If you don't give a-sh-sh-I'm not spending time with you. Okay? I've been done. I'm over this bull-th. You-you.
Starting point is 01:33:45 You, honestly, not receptive. You can't hold down one person. You are not teaching good life skills to your kids. You are going to be financially fift for the rest of your life. And I'm done. And the fact that you're just enjoying this. Oh, great. I don't give a f***.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Go be in poverty. If that's where you're going to end up, that's your choice. I wanted to do a wake-up call. I wanted to give you recommendations. I'm not doing it. You just been screaming for the last 16 minutes in here. I want to try something. You're not receptive.
Starting point is 01:34:24 You're done. How what am I supposed to see? You're not even giving me anything. You wouldn't let me get there. And I told you things you shouldn't be spending on and you wouldn't I would. You wouldn't, listen.
Starting point is 01:34:36 You wouldn't listen. You wouldn't listen. I'm going to do a laugh. Literally. I'm going to do a f fiend lap. I'm going to go get her. All I've been doing is listen. So.
Starting point is 01:34:59 You're gonna go. I don't like you. We don't necessarily host the best of the best in civilization. I know you're not looking at me. We're behind a paywall now. Can you tell us how many people you're with while you're married? How many? Oh.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Okay. Seriously, it could be worse. Did you really just give me a, it could have been worse when it came to cheating. You're a bad person. I have really back this up. I am not a bad person. You're a cheater. You're a bad person.
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