Financial Audit - Gold Digger Exploits Beta Husband | Financial Audit

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. What kind of lifestyle are you guys living? I just, like, made another loan. Got my broke b-b-b-b-b-de-butt, but it was like 14,000. Why? 14,000 for the b-b-b-t. I was-was, but you didn't, so I don't give it a-h-b-was. It's not really a good feeling to have that go behind my back, you know?
Starting point is 00:00:19 I think you would understand why I did it, so I didn't figure you were going to be mad. Listen, saggy b-lift, all I care is their finance. Hi, my name is Megan. I'm 34 years old. My name is Garrett. I'm 36. We live in Houston, Texas. And this is financial audit. Thanks for coming over to Austin, guys. So what do we do for a living in Houston, Texas? We'll start with you. I'm a flight attendant on the weekends and I stay home with our two kids. During the weekdays. Correct. Okay. Well, okay. So very much part time, I'm assuming. Yes, but I am full time. Like, I'm,
Starting point is 00:00:56 Mama, full-time moment. No, flight tonight. I'm full-time hours. Oh, you're getting... Okay, how many hours are you getting on this weekends? It's 72 for the month, is what I get. Oh, okay. There are some times where she works during the week.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Yeah. So... How much are we making from this? Because your payroll is practically nothing. I make $54 an hour, but I'm averaging... Like, my months are like 50 to 70 a month. Huh? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:01:25 hours? Yes. Oh, okay. Well, what hits your bank on an average month? 3,000. Okay, well, that was not reflected in this last month. We had 600. What was different? It should be more than 600. It didn't work as much this month. Why? I mean, yeah. People not flying? I mean, no, I don't think I worked much. I don't work that much in the summer. It's kind of a choice. Isn't that when people travel? yes but um but that's because the kids are home more because there's no school how old are the kids we have kids yes how old are kids two and four two and four okay yes well why less than the summer i just don't think i worked much in the summer yeah yeah yeah why because she likes to take off
Starting point is 00:02:18 okay but our spending seems to be maintained yes um how did you guys think you spent in this last month when really only his income came in. How much you guys think you spent in this last month? Oh, 12,000? I'd say probably around there. Pretty damn close. 11,7664, but only 8,67 came in from your paycheck. So how are we maintaining the same level of spending if we're not working?
Starting point is 00:02:46 I'm confused. We're just taking time off, but we're continuing the same level of spending. That doesn't make any sense. We start dipping into our emergency fund towards the end of the month. For what? To cover some purchases that pop up, a lot of purchases that pop up, i.e., what gave you that tan, i.e., going on vacation. Yeah, that's an emergency.
Starting point is 00:03:08 We take from an emergency fund to go to islands and stuff. It's an emergency. No, that was planned out prior to a lot of the last-minute knick-knacks or impulse spending that happened. Emergencies. That would be pulled out of our... emergency savings. I brought more in, like, in August. We don't have it.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Is there a secret account we don't have? No, I don't know why you don't have it. Unless I, I don't really remember why I didn't work very much. But it just seems off. The number seems off. That's what hit. That's the least what hit. Okay, what do you do for a living?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Is I working in the oil and gas industry? Oh. Yes. He's a Texan. Okay. Oh. Cool. What do you make?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Right around 120. Wow, that's great. Okay, so that helps the sainning when you live in Houston. Definitely energy town. Okay, what is your position? I'm kind of a drilling fluids specialist tech. I work in-house for one of the major offshore companies. So do you get down and dirty?
Starting point is 00:04:20 I did for, I worked offshore for 10 years. Yeah. And since we had kids moved back. working in the office now. Okay. How long have you guys been married? We just celebrated six years. Oh, very nice. Okay. So a little different than most married couples on the show.
Starting point is 00:04:38 One, you've been married a little longer. A lot of people are kind of newlyweds on the show. And two, your guys' kids were within your marriage, which is maybe the first time that's ever happened on this show. Not that either way is bad or good. I don't give a suss. But it's interesting. It shows that
Starting point is 00:04:56 you know, maybe you are a bit more planned. And the weird thing here is there is retirement here. That's the weird thing. But then there is so much that does not correlate with a couple that plans, especially if we're taking for an emergency fund, for
Starting point is 00:05:16 nicknacks. And one of you has a secret to the other doesn't know, and I don't know what the secret is. Or who has it. but one of you wants to tell it. And what is it? Who has the secret? Who's the little secreter?
Starting point is 00:05:32 You're the secretor? Yeah. What's your little secret? I mean, it's, I just, like, pulled from, like, made another loan to cover a credit card so we could go on our trip. Oh, my. Okay. Okay. And I didn't tell him.
Starting point is 00:05:49 What do you mean? Wait, why doesn't he get to know that? Why are we doing that without his knowledge? Oh. He thought you were pulling from an emergency phone. Not that that's even better, but actually, no, you said. Oh, you said the trip was planned. I was going to tell him.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I was, but you didn't. So I don't give it. It was. You didn't. Well, no, I don't tell him. Huh? Yeah, I didn't tell them. Why?
Starting point is 00:06:07 Because, I mean, I was going to. But you didn't want him to stress about our trip. But now you're stressing about the trip, even though the trip is already done because you've borrowed on it and now you have to pay it off. You borrow, you open it. You took out a loan. What kind of loan? Uplit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:25 No, no, yeah. No, upstart was the loan I took for the card. Upstart. Yeah, I took that out to pay off a credit card that was maxed out so that we could have spending on the card. Oh, my. That has nothing to do with the vacation. Well, then what are you talking about you? Because that just contradictions your whole thing.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I'm confused too. What are you saying? So, yeah, we did finance the vacation that we just took. From what? On what? It's like the pre-planned, like, like, like, a firm like one one of those it's called uplift so uplift and upstart yeah they're both two i have both loans and upstart and uplift and which one did you know about and which one did you
Starting point is 00:07:12 not or neither why why why when when did you do this the last week of the month before our trip what month september okay the last week of september yes you did this Yes. I got a loan out and paid off a credit card that was maxed out. Yeah, but like why? Because that just got my name too on it or is it just yours? No, it's just mine. It's just mine. It affects us both and that is not really a good feeling to have that go behind my back, you know? Yeah. But.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I didn't think you, I think you would understand why I did it. So I didn't figure you were going to be mad. Well, understand why you did it. You did it for the vacation. Correct. And are you mad? Yeah. I'm pretty disappointed.
Starting point is 00:08:16 That's kind of a big thing. I thought we were low on funds during the month because we were taking out to pay for a trip instead of... How long do you guys go on these trips? Or how often do you guys go on these trips? Like twice a year Can you afford that? I mean obviously not if we're taking out Debt to pay off a card
Starting point is 00:08:38 And then another debt to pay for this trip That we can't pay for And then you think taking out For an emergency fund for knickknacks Obviously not So why are we doing these trips And we just, we have young kids Shouldn't we be getting
Starting point is 00:08:55 She's being care of and buttoned up For the sake of their future Instead of going and see? some palm trees? It was for my birthday and my son because our birthdays together. Happy birthday. You have one every year. I don't give a f*** so does he.
Starting point is 00:09:08 What? Probably not. But. Probably not. I don't regret it. I don't regret the trip. Probably not. Are you saying you're dying?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Terminal? No. What are you terminal with? Brain cancer? Is that why you're taking out these ones? I was agreeing with you that like my son probably didn't care about the trip for our birthday. Well, no. The four-year-old barely passed the age where he's going to start remembering things.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Other than that the two-year-old has no. idea what the going on. It's basically just a group of cells floating around in the universe. Can't form memories.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Well, we have pictures from it. Well, that's good. As long as they don't go blind, they'll be able to know they went to a place with palm trees. Oh, yeah. It seems to be
Starting point is 00:09:48 every year we've got a birthday trip. They're all in October. What, do you not agree with these? So why are we doing them? Wait, what are we doing then? why are you playing it and he just goes on them he doesn't agree with a lot of them why are we doing them and she we just do it because i like to travel cool but if he disagrees why are we just why do you
Starting point is 00:10:11 win win win win win win maybe because i'm controlling i don't know he just does whatever like if i hey i have a trip he just packs his bag and he's like okay where we're going like when we get to the airport like he doesn't know anything about the travel or the expenses he just And you're saying you don't like that. I don't prefer. I'd like to be at least consulted like, hey, let's take a trip. Okay. Do you guys have conversations about this?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Or is this the first time? Like, what are we doing? We've had this conversation multiple times. Why has nothing ever been addressed then? I feel like I could be sitting on that side with you talking to her about a lot of these financial issues. Well, I'm not the only problem. I'm not the only problem. I've never said I'm a huge problem.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But I'm also, when we say pulling out of the emergency fund for things, I'm not the one that's pulling out for things. She's the one normally pulling out the emergency fund. So. I mean, I do have a submitting problem. I know I do. Like, I know I'm out of control with spending. I'm confused. We talked about before we started filming, you found this show through George Camel.
Starting point is 00:11:26 you found George through Dave. You've been through a live event with Dave. You know he'd be against all of this dramatically. You've been on that path of relative being surrounded by the knowledge of how to not be a dumb money. And yet we are in... Still doing it. So, like, what?
Starting point is 00:11:48 You obviously just don't care. Vacation's more important than any financial stability or any fixing or any change of behavior. Right? It has to be. It's got to be. Yes, because this is a daily watching financial videos and doing all this. Why watch without any action? I'm confused. We might have action for half of the month, and the other half is, let's go do whatever we want. Get a little fire under your butt for a moment. And then you're done.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yep. Why do you think it falls off? Because I impulse by and I regret it after. I can go to Target and spend $600, and then I can take it all home and regret all of it. Then return it. But I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So then I just am negative $600 for going to Target. And how much is this loan that you took out that he doesn't know? 6,000. Almost what you bring in after taxes and everything on a monthly basis. Immediately. A month has to go to that. How much was this vacation? You took out $6,000.
Starting point is 00:12:57 thousand? No, the vacation was 4,000. What kind of lifestyle are you guys living? Champagne taste on a beer budget. It seems like we kind of spend what we want to spend. What goals do we have for you guys, for the kids? Where are we trying to be looking five years down the road, 10 years down the road, 20 years down the road? What are we trying to do?
Starting point is 00:13:23 Because right now we're just living for fun in the moment. What are we trying to do? Do we have any combined goal? I don't think we have a goals together. I want a house in Palm Beach by 40. Are you going to be able to move? No, I want a second home. No, she wants a second home, which is ridiculous.
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Starting point is 00:15:27 3,000 more than came in on this last month. I understand. And I don't want. What the f*** are you talking about? Well, how much is a home in Palm Beach? Too much. Like 700. Is that nothing?
Starting point is 00:15:40 I think we can get a loan for it by 40. Okay. Well, I'm confused. Again, you're the one that watches the financial content on repeat. Are you there just for the end? entertainment and you don't walk away with anything who no one would advise that that I know of. I mean, I have a problem. I need to fix it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Oh, shut the fuck up. If you have a problem and you know you have a problem, this isn't like, it's not like you're an alcoholic here. My spending is out of control. Absolutely. But you know this. You acknowledge this. But I don't change it.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I know. And I'm asking why? Why have you done nothing? Why have you put no action behind this? I need to know. at least your own self-assessment. I don't know as well. I mean, I've done charts, like no spinning charts.
Starting point is 00:16:29 On the fridge, I've put them up. I've done like ringlets of our debt, like little paper rings. We've done all the nung it up like as decoration or house. I like, I just don't follow through. You said it really well earlier. She'll have fire for a while and then it's on to the next thing. on to the next fad or on to the next let's do this or that. And for my side, I look at a lot of, okay, our bills paid,
Starting point is 00:17:01 are we a roof over our head? Are we fed? Are our kids safe? Are we safe? Okay, whatever's left after that? I automatically put stuff into savings that we don't touch. But after that, I kind of... You put money into savings?
Starting point is 00:17:20 You don't put any money into savings. He does not put any money into savings. Into our 401k every page. Oh, okay. That's, I don't consider that savings. Aren't you good? But you guys are taking loans against your retirement accounts.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Yes, we have done that. We have done that before. Yeah, there's two. So, well, that doesn't even matter if we're putting money into there, if we're just borrowing against it.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah. But. Why? What are we, what are we borrowing for? So we borrowed to buy our house. That was a, The second one.
Starting point is 00:17:53 That was the down payment. Yeah, your 401k loan was to put down for our house and they didn't even use it. But we took out to put down for the house and they didn't even put it down for the house. They didn't even put down the $15,000 that we took out. They just, they put down like $2,000. I don't know why. What are you talking about? The people that sold us the house.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You tell them where the money goes. You tell them what to where this goes to. So that was. Do you go to closing costs? Is that what you're saying? Like, we didn't have any. Where'd the money go? It just stayed in our account and then we paid off his truck with it, I believe.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I don't know. That was four years ago. I don't know. I don't know. I'm so fucking lost. All right. Let's get into these finances. I want to see self-assess.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Where do you guys think you are? I'm going to say three, two, one, go, on go. I want you guys to give me what you think your household financial score is. Zero being the absolute worst, 10 being the absolute best. Where do you think you are? Three, two, one, six. Four. What is this delusion?
Starting point is 00:18:59 You said zero being the worst. And 10 being the best. Four. How do you think you're above a solid, like down the middle five? You guys are borrowing against your 401K. You just your wife opened debt to pay for a vacation that you had to take for a birthday thing. So what the fuck we had a four or a six? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I guess it's because I know that we can turn this around and get out of debt. Can, but you're not. Yes. The score is in a hope of what you could do. It's what's happening. Okay. Well, then I'll go back to a five. I'll least think we're better than the average, for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Well, we'll see. We'll see. There is retirement, but again, we're barring against it. That is what is going for you is the retirement. But we're kind of negating it. All right, let's start looking at these stats. If you want your hammer financial score, it's free link in the description below. And if you guys want to be on the show, calebammer.com slash apply.
Starting point is 00:19:55 All right. Delta Sky Miles great for all our vacations. All right. So on here we owe $1,230.15, the minimum fee payment of $40. This looks like it's interest free. Oh, I don't know about interest free. You paid off the last balance, but you did immediately put another $2,132 on here. So what is this card?
Starting point is 00:20:26 manages this card? Do we even know what's happening on this card? Explain this card. She kind of manages all of our financial, for the most part, which is. I'm so confused, because you're complaining about the finances, but why then are you not involved? Why is she just doing it? Why is it just put upon her? Now, I am involved, but a lot of it is she really enjoys doing all these things and she gets so so caught up in all the the financial stuff and you three thousand dollars went out more than came in last month yes so i'm confused for me like i kind of said earlier if making sure that our our bills are paid and that are but roofs overhead one there's a lot of my focus there's a late fee in these statements oh there's probably a few so if our
Starting point is 00:21:23 concern is that the bills are paid and the bill wasn't paid on time. Yeah. Obviously, the system's not working. Correct. So what? We've done nothing to address it. To get more involved, to have these open, honest conversations. Sir, you like doing it.
Starting point is 00:21:40 That's great. You have fun with it. Wonderful. I think it's a couple. We probably need to sit down and go over our finances on a monthly basis. I agree. But why haven't you guys? That's just what I'm trying to figure out.
Starting point is 00:21:53 this whole conversation is, okay, we seem to at least know, we know what's right. But you guys haven't done anything regarding what is right. And you're not able to give me a why other than I like spending. Yeah. I know. It's, um, oh, how are you guys ever going to get anywhere if you can't just acknowledge any potential reason? because if you don't have a reason that we can start focusing on,
Starting point is 00:22:25 how are we going to address it and find a solution if we don't know why? Why haven't you been willing to get involved with the finances more? Or why haven't you been willing to allow him to be involved in the finances more? Whatever it is, why? We have done where we have monthly meetings and we'll go through all of our budget and this is where we're going to go through. But it's been a long time. But the second we get through this budget and halfway through the month, all of a sudden something shiny will pop up and budget went out the window.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And it's not my shiny that normally pops up. I'm not innocent and by no means. But she is the- Does his opinion of your shiny not matter? Yeah, it does. But the shiny just ends up being purchased and the budget's out the window. So he normally lets me buy whatever I want to buy. Is this true?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah. Why don't you put your foot down? I mean, there needs to be accountability in this. Yeah. On both sides. I think I'm just as guilty in all this because I'm allowing it to happen. I think you guys just enable each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Before we had, we were making good money and kind of did whatever we wanted since kids. We had more debt. We had way more debt before we had kids. We paid off some of the debt kind of. That's been years ago. It's been years ago. We've grown, we've gained more debt other sides. But our total was a lot less before kids.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I want to know what happens at the end of the month. Once we've done the, okay, here's the beginning of the month. We sat down to figure out our budget. Okay, halfway through something trying to came up. We purchased it. What happens at the end of the month for the next meeting? She'll normally have to pick up work and I'll have to stay home to help watch kids while she goes to work. Wait.
Starting point is 00:24:18 So the conversation just becomes. How do we go and pay for the shiny? It doesn't become what was the shiny? Was it worth it? And how do we prevent it from happening the next month? We have that conversation all the time. That's the conversation that matters more. Why isn't that what you told me?
Starting point is 00:24:35 There's a lot of it speaking on deaf ears sometimes. It's like, I will tell her, why do you need that? Why do we do this? And then what was the last shiny besides this vacation you guys just went on? What was the last shiny? I want to hear how this happened. I mean, I got Botox. Where?
Starting point is 00:24:50 At the spa. It's like six or $800. Where's the Botox? What do you mean? Where? Where is it in your body? Oh, my forehead. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So you're avoiding the permanent lines? Yes. Okay. How much was the shiny Botox? It was 600. Who cares if you get lines? Dude's already starting to get gray. Oh, no, it's not kind of.
Starting point is 00:25:14 It's gray. Oh, wow. It is a lot of gray. It's infected. Okay. But it's not just like Botox. You'll do, I think it's time to embrace.
Starting point is 00:25:22 The dude's already growing old. You don't want to look like you're 20 when he's just like, it's not just Botox. We'll do our, we don't do our own hair. No, he asked you. No, stop. He asked you what was your most expensive purchase? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Okay, so the Botox was the last shiny. Okay. That I had. Okay, okay. I'm just, I want to, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I just want to figure out the situation around. that because I just want to learn kind of what your life looked like around that. One, that terrifies me, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Better than going bald. Yep, it's staying in. So I'm fine with it. That's true. That's fair. Okay, so both talks happened. Okay, cool. How much did it cost?
Starting point is 00:26:07 It was 600. Did you just do it or did we talk about it before? No conversation before. Okay. Then what happened afterwards? Because you probably told him at some point that it happened. Yeah. How'd that conversation go?
Starting point is 00:26:19 She'll tell me, hey, I'm going to. to get this done with no monetary signal to it and just go do it. And normally I'm like, okay, fine. It's normally like when I'm busy or I've got a lot going on, I just go, okay, cool. And then after the fact, when I look at our bank account, I go, well, what the hell happened? I didn't know it was this much. Why do we do that? Well, no, and I can't take it back. They can't go in there and pull it out and give us the money back. So what are you going to do? A lot of it is after the fact, I will give her, I will not lecture, but we'll talk about why we did this and what went wrong. Well, you can normally just give me a slap on the wrist and then we just go about our spending.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Who type that? Who type that? Jake, if you're going to be a bully, say it into a mic like a man. I don't have a microphone. Why don't you come say this to them? Bring it on. Come, come say it. Don't say it, Jake. Listen, this is what I'm dealing with over here, guys.
Starting point is 00:27:22 This is what I'm dealing with. And I am sorry, Garrett. Garrett, I'm sorry, but I said that you aged 15 years when you took the hat off. Oh, yes. What was the other thing that was said? The funny part. Oh, that was actually Lindsay. She said hatfish.
Starting point is 00:27:39 You hatfish, suss. Oh, yeah. Hey, I can leave it off and look like an old man. I hate his long hair. She always tries to get me to color my hair and stuff. Let it be. You're trying to keep them young. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I try to get him to do Botox, too. He won't do it. No, I will not ever. I'm not, it's a waste of money. I'd be willing to do it in the armpits to prevent, because I sweat a lot. Same. But again, that's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I'd rather spend the money on something else than. I'm just, so after that, like, I'm just, did we? Decide that, okay, maybe this is not happening again then. Sometimes that's said, and then there will be a couple of month period in between, and all of a sudden we pick back up doing things like we'll do cleanses or we need to, you know, redecorate this area of the house or that area of the house. We need to buy this or that.
Starting point is 00:28:44 So you guys are not able to like have like adequate conversations that are able to hold ground in and keep each other accountable throughout. That is, I think, what is very clear here. It's like we can have a conversation and we can be like, oh, okay, that sucks. It won't happen again. But it always happens again. Yes. But you also failed to hold her accountable and you failed to hold yourself accountable
Starting point is 00:29:06 because swiping's more important. What if we didn't have this strong income over here? What would you be doing? I guess I'd be working more. I would work more, but I have to be home with the kids. Yeah. We have no family in Houston, so it's just us. But even then, like, what we bring in shouldn't have to need family in Houston for you to work.
Starting point is 00:29:31 You don't have to work at all from what I bring in. He goffs two times a month. And that's- Wait, he what? He goves. He's in a golf-ly. Oh, okay. So, like, on Sundays, so it messes up with me trying to work. So I have to, like, not.
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Starting point is 00:30:22 It's hard on Sundays to find somebody. We struggle finding people to watch the kids. Or I'm just like, don't want to spend them extra money to have somebody watch them. So I'm just like, well, I'll just stay home. But even then. But even then. Whether someone is. Whether you're working or not with my income, we don't need, you don't have to work at all.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah, but I like to spend. So we do need. But that's the part we need. to work on is the spending. That's, yes, I agree. I mean, he just, well, he just said was 100% right. But you know this again, you're in the circles.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I'm so confused. Yeah, I do know it. I don't know why I don't apply it. It's because you prefer the spending over the, uh, over the, I have a problem. I know I have a problem. Well, no, but it's, but your lack of addressing it,
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Starting point is 00:32:08 Link in the description below. In here was Chick-fil-A in Nordstrom and Chick-fil-A in Easy Lane. Target, who knows, you know, it could be anything. Sonic driving, going to the gas station, getting some bullshit. Chick-fil-A, Tiff's treats, Tif's not even good anymore. Chick-fil-A, chiple's donuts, some museum, Chick-fil-A, went inside, got some BS from a gas station,
Starting point is 00:32:36 Magnolia, and a lot of financed flights. Miami. That was for our trip. Why could you get a hotel in the, where are you on a second house? West Palm Beach. Is it going to be a beach house? Not on the beach. Then it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Get a hotel whenever you want to go then, right? Right? Or else why? Why do you need a home there? Oh. We don't. We don't need a home there. I don't want to have another home over there.
Starting point is 00:33:07 But she's adamant on having another home. Have you ever won any of these purchase conversations? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. the house if he wins a purchase conversation. That's false. That is so false.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Like, no. Like, we have these conversations and I will make a great point and I will, I could tell you that this, this desk is brown and there'll be a butt. No, it's really green or black.
Starting point is 00:33:35 What I'm trying to figure out is just, I mean, there's just no consequences. You just, you win and that's it. I mean, the consequences are now you guys have to pay off your debt. and, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:46 goals for the kids and everything are put off. Actually, I hope my breath doesn't stink. I'm on, I'm taking Pax-Loved right now, so I can get over this quicker. And it's making my tongue, like it automatically makes your tongue taste like absolute death, but I don't know if that translates or if it's mental.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Like, I don't know if it's a real taste or if it's fake. I can't smell anything of here. Well, that's good, because it tastes like a battery has opened on my mouth. And it's really disgusting. And you can't get rid of it. It's so bad. Okay. We kind of talked about her financial, like my financial goal, like for our future, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:28 setting up for our kids and putting, being able to get them through college where we kind of, her goal is to get a house in Florida. Why? It's West Palm Beach. But why? It's Florida. And it is Florida. I mean, my dad says that, like the same.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Dan just eats the houses away, so that's just stupid. But yeah, I just want a house in Florida. But why? I don't know. You don't have an answer to anything. I just have a goal, so that's my goal. Why is that the goal versus like paying for kids college? I think it's because she gets all these ideas and from watching all this content and stuff and going, well, we're budgeting.
Starting point is 00:35:14 If we pay all this off, we'll. you're not buying anything but we're not and there's where she gets these ideas like oh so now my goal can instead of having short goals to get to the big one she goes straight to the big one
Starting point is 00:35:27 and forgets that oh we didn't meet this short goal we didn't meet this next short goal who else you watch I want to make sure you're not watching like some finance person that's just like go buy my house is like okay
Starting point is 00:35:36 I know you watch Dave you watch George watch this I watch Graham I watch the ice coffee house yeah house yeah they I mean they're also not in support of what you're doing so I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Who else? There has to be someone you're watching. It's like corrupting. No. You're watching everyone that does the most tame stuff. We do this. No, I've gone to the studio and I felt like so, like when I went to like Nashville and watched the show live.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Oh, okay, Dave's. Yeah. I left and I felt just like disgusted with. Yeah. Well, he makes two. Wait, is this conversation even going to be helpful? I mean, you went there. I don't, like, this, that was like four years ago.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And this is where we are four years later. So, yeah, obviously, we can't pay off our debt. Just like, I, I don't know if I have the energy for this. Like, I want to figure your shit out, but it's like at the same time. And I am running at 50%, I'll be honest. And I'm just like, You obviously don't give a shit. One does.
Starting point is 00:36:50 What do we do when 50% of the relationship cares? Are you saying that he cares? From this conversation, it's at least, you haven't at least suggested that he doesn't. He just is not, like you said, he doesn't hold me accountable. He's not doing the communicating with me on the money. I'm not sitting there looking at all of our budget. I'm just making sure that we are trying to reach some goals. What can he do to hold you accountable, though?
Starting point is 00:37:14 So he'll have the conversation, right? And we're not going to have to take a baseball bat and slam your head in if you don't do it. So like what can he do? Well, I mean, maybe I need that. Okay. But obviously, you know. I mean, like every day. You spent so much money on Botox.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Why ruin it with a bat? I have to refix it. We would have to re-fix it. What can he do that would actually, I mean, take cards away from you, like you're a child? Like, what can we do for you? Like, at a certain point, you do have to be. a 30 what four year old adult that's that or do we have to treat you like an infant and not have the ability to spend $214 in a single month on chick-fil-a yeah i do like my chick-fil-a apparently
Starting point is 00:38:03 well my kids do yeah yeah well i would like them now like you whatever whatever you put in front of them like it doesn't have to be chick-fellate okay i'm not the only one that spins though he He spins on all the statements that you get that are gas station. It's all him. I do not spin anything, I guess. What are you getting into gas station? Normally, uh, tobacco dip. Snacks.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Okay. Snacks. Why, why aren't you? Why haven't you upgraded to the Zen life? Not that I support that either, but at least it's not cancer causing as far as we know. As far as we know. Okay, but we know the one you have is cancer causing. Like those you want to be around for the kid?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. Okay. Maybe we don't do cancer intentionally. That I understand. And you're good with that. If it was just for the cancer part, but if it's the financial side of it. Uh-huh. It is expensive.
Starting point is 00:38:58 It is expensive. It's an expensive habit. Even getting more expensive. Oh, and I know it's getting more expensive. I know you want to lock in for the oil, but. I've cut back quite a bit on. What does that look? like going from a can and a half to two cans a day to one or one every three three days now
Starting point is 00:39:19 okay three to four days instead of one a day how long has this habit been since i was probably 14 oh man yeah a man working in all with his dip in his truck living in houston dixish You're living up that stereotype. Where are you on the desire to quit this? Don't really have any desire to. Why? He's addicted to it. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:39:48 But a lot of people that are addicted do have a desire to quit. Even if they're not quitting. Why don't you have a desire? I mean, what about your kids? Like, they'll see you doing this. They're very impressionable. Like, they'll want to. You started at 14.
Starting point is 00:40:00 What if your kids start at 14? It's not just expensive, but it's leading to hire. I mean, you're, you could. lose a part of your, one, you could get the Zen thing where you're like, for the rest of your life, you know, like looking dumb. And then, or you could just, you know, have to have gum surgery at some point because of the dip. And it's disgusting, let's be honest. Yeah, nasty. I look gross, smells gross. They're not on a baseball field. And even before, no one watches that sport anyway now, so. I'd be willing to, to, to, try.
Starting point is 00:40:36 like to get stop. I've tried before in the past, but this is the dude you got to make out with. I didn't get a thing before the kids, but I was always like, you need to stop before we have kids. And so he's like, okay. And then we had one. You like kissing a dude that has tobacco all up in there? I mean, it's the pouches.
Starting point is 00:40:54 So it's a little different than just like the. Yeah. I mean, it's, but his breath definitely stinks from it. I'm not going to lie. It depends on which day. I mean, yeah, it's bad. And I need to quit. You're right.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Okay. Will you? I will try. I will definitely. Easier said than done. I know. Oh, I know. And I've tried.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I've done even going offshore where I'm out there for two weeks and know that I'm going to run out. I intentionally stop. So I'll try to quit. And the second I get back home, I started it up. It's a tough thing to stop. But I'm, I will try to cut that. that little part of our budget spending out. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:41:40 We all get together and we buff alcohol after each show to celebrate. So we're not that much better. I don't drink that much. So I'm just spinning it on tobacco. Yeah, do I? Taste gross. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And then what is this? So we have a $6,000 loan here with the 25.07% interest rate. Holy. What is this? This is this $6,000? Is this a special secret loan? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:05 So a lot of your loan. loans are kind of 0% interest, but the secret loan she's taken out at 25.07% interest, right? You're not beating this in the market. Yeah, but if you think about the card that I put the money on, the interest rate we would get, it's like a charge of like a hundred. So this was the one that paid off the card? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:22 It didn't pay it off fully. Oh, for the fuck I say. What card was it? It was my Royal Caribbean card. What? Royal Caribbean? Do we go on debts or do we go on vacations that aren't? Debt funded?
Starting point is 00:42:38 Because this did pay off a different vacation, essentially. I don't know. Okay, then we're not going on vacation. Year 2025 is the year without vacations. Love it. You live in the city in Texas. Sorry, but you're going to have to stay there a little longer without going anywhere else. You got the armpit, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:56 You love Florida. You live in the Florida of Texas. So just without the nice beaches. But you get the humidity. I mean, I already booked a. 2025 vacation in October. Get a refund. I'm sure you selected the insurance thing.
Starting point is 00:43:12 It'd be like, family death, I don't know. Trust me. Everyone in the world that applies on the show all of a sudden has a family death. They come up a lot. I'm saying that's the excuse that everyone makes.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Oh, I know. I'm all for canceling these trips. I don't want to cancel it. I know you don't want to, but we need to. Thank you. I don't want this to be 2V1. I feel bad. But, come on.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I feel like I'd be sitting next to you because I have these same conversations a lot. Like, why do we do this? Well, hold on, Mr. Dipp, man. Oh, I'm not. I don't want that garbage next to me. But come on. Do we have to, do I have to treat you like, is what we have to do is treat you like an infant to get you, like, is it that you have no access to spending money anymore? Because I don't want to cancel the vacation.
Starting point is 00:44:06 that's not in the game. What do, for paying for our kids college, where are we? We put, do you want to? Yes. Okay, where are we then? I mean, we started their 25, 29 plans.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Mm-hmm. How much is in there? But we only put, we only put $25 a month. Okay, that's a joke. So we care about this vacation more than our kids college. You do. Your actions are saying you do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:42 You want to tell them that at 18? I cared about a vacation when you were three and five at that time. More than your college. I don't want to have to tell them that. Well, that's what you're going to have to tell them, because it's going to be your fault. All right, guys, I get it. You need more financial audit. So we've decided now, in our membership below, you get two exclusive.
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Starting point is 00:46:08 I have a pair of, Salmon shorts on that desk, ready to change in two right after this. So you dressed like you're smoking no- for the first time when you're going a day? He's got a rat. Then there's always extra bonus things like, for example, an office tour. The team grew. We have to eat out of here now. So this was going to be the fun area.
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Starting point is 00:47:06 I mean like 50% and I you can I can't I can't can't even get you to say you'll cancel a vacation. I will cancel it. I will cancel it. I don't know. What even is this debt so I can just label it? It's upstart. Okay. I hope there's something to yell at you about because I do feel bad. But come on, what the fuck? That's the most childish thing.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And you're taking out debt without him even knowing? What's the minimum monthly payment on this thing? 159. Congratulations. You have a $159 minimum monthly payments that you have to take care of not with your income because you only brought in a few hundred bucks. All right. Pottery barn card. We have a pottery barn card. I've never even heard of that. Yep. What are we doing? Better been some great pots. Well, I went to some friends houses. I saw their house and I was like, we redecorated. Yeah, we did. We got new coffee table. Cash flow. You guys make money.
Starting point is 00:48:08 People to come over in our house not be not decorated. Cool. No, no, no, do it. Cash flow. You guys make money. I know. But why do we have to go into debt for it? We don't have to buy the most expensive thing either when we do it. Here we go. I did buy, so part of that party barn, was that, did I get a desk from that one? No. No. I thought I got a desk from party barn. I don't know, but there was a past doofy. You eventually made it up, but there was a past do fee. Yeah. So we're not even responsible enough to pay it off and you're the one in control
Starting point is 00:48:40 the finances. I just forgot about it and it wasn't on auto pay. forget to get Botox. No, I didn't forget to do that. Well, we forgot to make a minimum monthly payment. I called them and told them, hey, I forgot to make it. Like, you can look at my, you know, account and see that I've paid it every since. So they waived it. Okay, promotional balance through essentially right now, actually, some of it just ended. Some of it ended a couple weeks ago. And some of it's ending in a week from now. And so interest is going to start 32.24% interest is going to start on this. Holyish.
Starting point is 00:49:16 But the balance is only like $400. They paid off. Yeah, they pay. Exactly. I'm confused. Okay. I'm going to. I plan on it.
Starting point is 00:49:25 But I don't think so because, again, 3,000 hours was spent more than brought in. I know, but I always make, like, I don't have miss payments on. I know I did on, I told you. It was not on auto pay, and I forgot about it. And I was like, crap. So, yeah, I did miss the payment. But. Like my normal, my normal routine's not missing demons.
Starting point is 00:49:45 What's normal? This is normal. This is a month that you live. This is normal. Yeah. I guess so. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Here's uplift. So not upstart, but here's the other secret loan, right? Yeah. This is for our trip that we just took. Great. That trip is at 20% interest. Yeah. Not good.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Awesome. So again, as I always say, I open my brokerage, Moomoo, and I'm getting in the S&P 500. You know all about. it you've watched graham he talks about index funds like someone addicted to them wonderful you know that you're probably getting eight to 12 percent a year up and down years combined on them this is double i mean this is double so it doesn't even matter it's like what do we do i just don't understand i mean first of no birthday of yours even matters until you're 59 and a half at this point you're not getting any no birthday is different i'm about to do you're just
Starting point is 00:50:41 join the 30 club. Nothing matters anymore. No birthday matters anymore. Just like taking trips on our birthday. But we don't have to. Like we can if it's all we need to build memories out and we can build memories at the house. I don't think we took one last year. Good because you're not taking one this next year or the year after. We did not last year on your birthday, but we still took one in October on our daughters. Oh yeah. We did go to Disneyland. Yeah. And she does not remember it. She will not remember it. I know. No. But it's like it's a tradition.
Starting point is 00:51:14 We took our son. But it's a tradition that we don't need to have. It's a tradition you just started. They're barely alive. They were just birds. Tradition. This isn't some historic tradition. Tradition from the 1700s.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Well, it was her first birthday last year. So a first is like a milestone. So is that even a tradition. That's because you wanted to do it. It's not for her. It's for you. And that's, If that's the way you want to do it, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:51:42 But, like, we don't need to do these. I don't know. We need to pause until we get all this stuff done. I don't know what to do here. I don't know what to do here, guys. I feel like, and I don't even want to, I'm not even, I don't want to even necessarily just be on your side and say you're doing well,
Starting point is 00:51:56 because I don't know. We haven't gotten through all this. But it really feels like half of us wants to at least do okay, and the other half doesn't give up. I do care. But, no, you don't. Your actions do not indicate that whatsoever. You might have a part of you.
Starting point is 00:52:10 you that cares, but you're wanting of going to Disney as a first-time tradition, outweighs it. Botax outweighs it. Chick-fil-A, outweighs it. A new home in West Palm Beach outweighs it. So it can get destroyed in a hurricane. Outweighs it. So, yeah, you might care, but all the care for the fun and enjoyment, the Instagram is what you care about more. So $3,143 is owed on here.
Starting point is 00:52:41 with $160 for your monthly payment, 20% interest. Okay, Apple card, $3,000. It's mine. Oh, I'm shocked. I'm shocked to learn this. What did you get? I have no idea. What did we get?
Starting point is 00:52:59 Because we opened that card to get a computer. She needed a new laptop. Her laptop was fried. It had been a long time. Got her a new laptop. I got a bonus. we knew it was coming, we paid off that Apple card. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:16 We paid it off. And then all of a sudden, it's got a balance again. I don't know what I thought. I don't know what I thought. Are you fucking open up your damn app for me then. Open up your app. I don't think I can. What?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Because I haven't, it's been charged maxed out since like April. Okay. So I don't know how to like go look. Open up your wallet app. It's in your wallet. Oh, goodf! You're not even know how to access it? No, I do. I just thought the statements... I can look back.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I have that magical ability of clicking a few buttons. Transactions. Okay. Yeah, no, let me look. Hand it over. Ah, crumbull, so we have upgraded from the Frips T treats. Yeah, that place is pretty good. Poshmart. Okay, well, you're just...
Starting point is 00:54:10 I mean, you're still, I mean, LLC. That's for a conference that he's going to. Oh, yeah. A Christian conference in Dallas next weekend. Okay. You can kind of go to those for free on Sundays. I don't think we need to be spending money. There's a conference that happens.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Most of those religious places. Yep. Yeah. Poshmore, great. American Airlines. So, man, I was thinking dry bar, prena bread, H&M. I was, I. Dry bar.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Church. So, let me, we're, come on. What is, what, what? There's like the cafeteria or like the cafe. Pack of a fucking lunch. Chick-fil-A, chick-fil-a. You go to that cafeteria every second of your life. Olive Garden.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Okay, I thought it was going to be a big purchase that got us up. Fleet feet. I got to watch. I got to get wax center. Got to get wax for church. lift door dash Papa Jay Carnival
Starting point is 00:55:15 there it is there's some $600 there Target $280 Yeah we took a cruise for spring break And then I see the payment That likely came from the bonus
Starting point is 00:55:26 All the way back in February Yep Gosh and then from there It was just a bunch of little You know what happened immediately after that Vineyards Vine $607 Yeah we went to the outlet mall And then I got a little crazy
Starting point is 00:55:38 We didn't go the outlet mall. You went to the outlet mall. He stayed in the car and then he's like, why are you taking so long? And then I charged like however much, $600. Yeah. But it was all on sale. If you're going to spend something like that, call me before you do it. And I could probably talk you out of it in that moment.
Starting point is 00:55:56 The thing is, I know you guys know how to like do stuff. I want you guys to go through our budgeting class together. I want you to go through our investing class together. I want you guys to go through our debt class together. So you know the best ways to get out. debt and the best ways to utilize that. I want you guys to go through that. Take the educations. You guys get them for free for being on here. But again, it's like, just like our audience can go through them. That's just a part of it. It's like me going through math class, you know. I get the education,
Starting point is 00:56:24 but if I'm not internalizing it, if I'm not putting anything into practice, it doesn't matter, you know, if I'm just going through it to be able to take the test an ace, it doesn't matter. You know, if I'm not learning the life skills. And that's what concerns me is, You guys can talk about what is right, but you don't do anything. And that's just what concerns me here, guys. And that's why I'm almost defeated in this conversation. Yes, okay, sure, I'm not feeling great. So I'm a little low energy.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Okay, great. But also, it's just like, you guys already know what to do and you're just not doing it. And what can I do to make that different? A lot of times that is most effective on this show is people come in. They think their situation is better than it is. And I give them a wake-up call and I can connect them with resources. You guys already know what to do and you're just not doing it. And I can't force you guys to do it.
Starting point is 00:57:08 That's something you're going to have to, something's going to have to happen, a rock bottom, or who knows, that's just going to have to be like, oh, now I care more about this than doing all the fun. So. I really think that you telling her a lot of this because I can tell her something. And then two seconds later, someone else will tell her and she'll say, oh, someone just told me the answer to this question when I already gave it to you. Yeah, but also, but, I mean, you've,
Starting point is 00:57:35 been following all the, so all the finance stuff. I guess I just watch it for entertainment and I don't apply. Guys, on care credit, we owe 8,423. What is this even for? I got my broke done. But it was like 14,000. Why? It's 14,000 for the.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah. Yep. Was this a requirement? Was this for you? Was it pressured? No, I just wanted to get it done in the springtime Before summer. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yes. So like March. Okay. I mean, for self-confidence, sure. And again, I don't really give up what you guys spend your money on if you budget it and just, but you're putting it on debt. It's this financed. You have financed.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Your t'fired are financed. I'm okay with telling people that. Yeah, I want you to go ahead and walk around on church on Sunday and go up to the pastor and be like, yo, these, they're financed guy. No, that's, I want you to walk around the cafeteria there and be like, finance. These things are financed. They're not all natural from up there. These are financed.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Well, I didn't get implants. I just did a lift after breastfeeding my kids. This lift is financed, guys. The kids brought them down. this dad brought him up okay yep we had a conversation before you were in full agreement of me doing this
Starting point is 00:59:17 in new desires I'm sure he enjoys them either way I was happy I didn't care I didn't need to do this I didn't ask you to do this I mean the time like I could have waited this was your decision listen saggy lift all I care is their finance you ever feel like you're just burning money on car insurance
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Starting point is 01:00:34 Do whatever you want. Go to Brazil, get that BBL. Do whatever. I don't care. you know but that takes longer to cash flow it well no but now you're paying for it you guys have I mean yeah what the fuck I'm supposed to do with that you know that statement is incorrect in this conversation you've watched the show and this is why I am just borderline so close to just being done I'm just so close to just being done guys it's like what do I even do with that what's the
Starting point is 01:01:01 minimum payment on the apple card I didn't get it 80 dollars okay You have to pay this off. And the interest starts accruing a year from now. Get her back. Get a deft on debt. All right. Harbor Freight. What is this for?
Starting point is 01:01:24 This has man written all over. We got a generator after the hurricane. You know what? I don't want to be on his side. But that is what? That purchase makes more sense than everything we've talked about so far. Because I'm getting a generator too. My power goes out like crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I don't know why. It's obnoxious. But again, also, we could have cash floated. I know we could have. I think we just wanted it right then. So we're like, let's just charge it and then we'll just pay it off. Yeah. I mean, that's why we did it.
Starting point is 01:01:53 But why didn't you pay it off then? Because other things came up. And so that got the back burnerer. What came up? The vacation? Well, I mean, we were in a wedding. And so, like, other expenses. And then I went out, I flew out to L.A.
Starting point is 01:02:07 to get my hair done. So that. What the. are you talking about? No one can do hair in Houston. Not really. Okay, that's bullshit. She flew her guy that she's gone to seen forever, that she's from Oklahoma,
Starting point is 01:02:23 originally, moved to L.A., so because she's able to fly and. Dude, get connections. Just ask people. Listen, you have next door written all over you. Ask people on that app what their favorite hairdo person is. Okay, it was like, I was in a wedding, so I really wanted to go out and see him and have him do my hair. So I flew out and saw him. That's an expensive hair.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Yeah, I was like $700 with tip. Plus the travel. Well, no, the travel. All of it was free. Yeah, I just hopped on a flight. You flew there and back in the same day. And then I flew home. No food?
Starting point is 01:03:00 No. Some coffee. Hmm. Still, even still, that's expensive haircut. It was color too. Yeah. She got her hair colored. So it took all day.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It was, it's a lot for hair. I slurged for a wedding that I was in. I need you to get me over the fear of flying. I recruit you on that mission. Oh, we can do that. Because I want to travel. I want to be able to see things. I mean, you're safer in an airplane than a car.
Starting point is 01:03:28 That's not my fear. It's being stuck in a place I can't get out of. I don't care about being in the sky. Well, if you take enough like, then you'll be fine. I hate the feeling of that stuff. you know, some kind of medication to get over that fear. Yeah, I would like to just, yeah, be able to do it and enjoy it. What is the memorial, Herman?
Starting point is 01:03:50 My delivery with my first baby. But again, we've just paid the minimum on it. Huh? We just have been paying just. But I know you guys can afford every. It's just, you guys make good money. This is a thousand bucks. $30.
Starting point is 01:04:07 $44 a month payment. I mean, I've called them multiple times and said, hey, I want to pay in full. Can you give me 20% off? Can you give me a discount? They're like, no. So I'm like, well, they're not going to give you a discount. Either way, it's just one of many things that you could.
Starting point is 01:04:22 But that's not like I'm freaking. I'm not like freaking out about that. Okay. And then what is this $3,000? Celtic Bank. Oh, a firm. It's a firm. Oh, I got a water machine.
Starting point is 01:04:36 A water machine. This stupid thing. I didn't even ask him. It's a water filter. I'm not surprised that you haven't asked him for like half this bullshit. So I just. A water filter. I was kind of pressured.
Starting point is 01:04:47 My dad was getting one or he's a distributor so he like sells them. Oh. And then he was like, you need to get one right now. And I was like, well, dad, let me just wait to like, you know, end of the year, like first of the year. I mean, dad, he got a sale out of you. It's kind of gross. Well, no, I got a discount because they're like $6,000. So they gave it to me for like.
Starting point is 01:05:08 like three. Yeah, and I'm sure three is closer to the real price. Okay, but that's what that is. A water system. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. And I love it. Why?
Starting point is 01:05:19 What, what? It just filters the water? No, it's like you're, it's, oh, no. It cures cancer. Like, it's the best water you want. What does it actually do? That's a bold statement. No, like, it's seriously.
Starting point is 01:05:32 What does it do? It's just like. It's ionizer? Yeah. So you can pick which level of alkalinity or acidic water you want. So it's like, you know, like when you drink like pH 10 water, like, you know, smart water, like different pHs. You can get like... RETA.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I don't care. Drink it out of the hose. We didn't need that thing. Okay. And then home. What is your home worth now, guys? Do we know? 408.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Okay. So you have a great equity position. You owe $264,824 on it, lower than $3.4. on it lower than 3% interest it's incredible so that's fantastic it's nothing to complain about here 2,412 a month okay bank of america card some purchases on here interest charge 167 dollars yeah that's my rural caribbean card huh oh oh you so this is the one wait but it's at its limit yeah so it's maxed out then i got the so then i got the loan the 6,000 dollar and this is where i'm a Against.
Starting point is 01:06:37 This is where I'm against credit consolidation for people who don't fix their behavior first. Because is this like... I know. So like, yeah. You just put it back up and then you're in more death than you were. It just gives you the ability to not figure it out. I mean, I guess you should just give me a pacifier since I'm an infant. Listen, I'm just, I'm confused.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Like, I actually don't know. What do we do other than take it away or you change it? But you're not. So I don't know, right? I mean, what would you say? What would your solution here be? You've tried it all, you say. You're at $6,9003 on here.
Starting point is 01:07:21 That's why I got the loan because the interest is like 1607. I don't give a, but you brought it all the way back up again. Yeah. Okay, great. With a $234 minimum, monthly pay. payment. $99 of purchases. Great. $167 of interest. It takes 23 years to pay off the way you're doing it. Well, actually, that's without any purchases. A firm, great. So we're paying for an affirmed payment on another debt. So we're dedding, we're affirming in a firm. Wonderful. And then shop
Starting point is 01:07:55 Flav City. You even knows. A thousand dollars in interest this year so far on here. A thousand dollars. Great. It's like a one percent tax. from your guys' take home on a yearly basis. 1% immediately just gone just because you refuse to be responsible with money. Okay, two 401K loans, the mid one at 1,183, and then the chunky one, screams fresh all over it at 15,000. Did we just do that? What was that for? In February, again.
Starting point is 01:08:31 To pay off personal loans that I paid off credit cards with. So I'm basically moving money. Yeah. So what would your solution be? My question is still there. What would your solution be? Because obviously, I mean, cancel the accounts.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Like, I need to call my Roller Kirby and card. And like calling, are you sure you wouldn't just immediately put this all on debit, though? Would your spending even change? But debit's cash. Yes,
Starting point is 01:08:59 but you're taking away your ability to put it on credit. Yes, that helps. Okay, but you haven't fixed your behavior again. So you'd still be spending the money. Okay, so how do I fix my behavior? That comes down to you. That is the discipline of maybe you need to check your budget on a weekly basis and make sure you're holding yourself accountable. I'm just like, how do we hold you accountable?
Starting point is 01:09:20 That's because what I'm figuring out, there's no consequences to your actions. Because, oh, you guys are disagree and then you're a lov-d-dovey again. And nothing ever matters. Not that I want you guys to fight or blow up or anything like that. That's not what I'm saying either. It's just like, I don't know. you're not facing any consequences for your actions. I'm really trying to think,
Starting point is 01:09:40 and my brain's not at 100 right now. I mean, closing the account, I feel like... That prevents you from spending... But then I, like, delete apps. I delete my Instagram. Like, I'll delete Amazon apps. Delete the target app. Like...
Starting point is 01:09:53 See something shiny on Instagram. We're like, oh, we need to do this or that. So it pausing, it does help, but we've really got to tackle the spending problem, not the where it comes from. It's just spending. savings account basically nothing, $504 bucks in there,
Starting point is 01:10:09 $576 in this Fidelity account, what is this? We both opened up IRAs with Fidelity. Yeah. Okay, college savings $1,300, and then $400 for the other. This one was the great one. Is this your 401K? Probably $2,000?
Starting point is 01:10:31 That's great, but I just, we're borrowing against it. How many years ago did we borrow against it? It's been a while. Well, it was for the house. It's for the house. Yeah, but then you just did another. Yeah, I did mine. That was on her, I thought.
Starting point is 01:10:45 That's on my retirement. Oh, this one, the $64,000? Yeah. Mine should be paid off. This is what sucks. It's like, compared to a lot of people that come on the show, you guys have a halfway decent retirement. It's just put you up with everything else.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I mean, if you're going to, if we're going to pull out from our, 401k. Why would you pull out though? No, no. Isn't it smarter to do the loan than... Potentially, but again, you're not changing your behavior. You're just kicking cans on the road. I would have rather you just not get...
Starting point is 01:11:15 You shouldn't have gotten in the first place. We'd just pay off for personal loan. Then after you get a home in West Palm Beach, which I don't know. What's special about West Palm Beach? Nothing. Then you're going to want to get a third... Paraday presents.
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Starting point is 01:11:58 Home somewhere else. You don't, you're not, you guys can, you guys have money where, could have such a nice retirement and you guys potentially could get a second home at some point but even without a second home you guys could actually be living really good vacation lifestyles but you're just throwing it all away
Starting point is 01:12:16 right now. Yep. On fast food and... You eat most of the fast food like besides the chick flay like yes I only like to eat chick fillet but the Taco Bell I will not eat there that's his charges like all the other expenses that are food is yours
Starting point is 01:12:32 and I am not So I'm all about your miscellaneous bull. I could be things like video games. It can be anything. It was $1,000 or 10% of your spending. But again, of the percent of your spending, you did spend $3,000 more than came in. Going out to eat was $1,143 and 9.7% of your spending.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Subscriptions, 0.3%, savings, 0.6%. Great. I'm always wanting him to, like, add to savings, but I'm the only one that adds to savings. I put like $300 in our savings, every check. You guys could be doing some of the money. I'm just, it's just, I don't know. Okay, let me get some of your living expenses.
Starting point is 01:13:10 I mean, this should be a relatively easy thing. The thing is, it's just changing your behavior. And I don't know, you've been trying to do that since forever. And I don't know. What's your phone, Bill? 174. Do you own the phones? Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Gosh, you don't listen to anything that you watch. Hopefully, the other version of you out there that's watching this for entertainment actually learned something and decides to fix their life this time. Car insurance. I know you guys own your cars right out, but car insurance is how much? 109. It's not bad. Gas, room, room, drive, drive.
Starting point is 01:13:49 $200. Across both. Yep. The mortgage is 2,412. And utilities, all together, how much? $250 for electric and then water is like $1,450. Let me get your debt, minimumity payments, besides the mortgage. This is insane.
Starting point is 01:14:14 It's over half what you guys put towards your mortgage. You're just paying towards pacifications. $1,403. And that's not even including the 401K loans because that gets taken out before you get paid. Okay. Internet? 110. Jeez, what do you guys have?
Starting point is 01:14:36 AT&T. We upped it, though, to have it faster and it's not faster. but they told us it would be. It is faster for wired connections, not for your Wi-Fi. Google Fibre is like 50 bucks for a gig up and down. I'm confused. I don't know. We've got fiber optic over at AT&T is what our area.
Starting point is 01:14:56 So that's what we've got. Okay, groceries, we should be able to do. Groceries that fluctuates on what kind of health kick are we on? $800. I think you can do that. Meal plan, meal prep. Okay. TP fund. Anything else you need to survive? And this is for extra things for the kids as well, $250. Medical co-pays, anything we need to do on a monthly basis?
Starting point is 01:15:19 His medicine is like $75.75? Yeah. Okay. And gyms? 87 a month. You're probably canceling your golf thing for a moment. I was getting a trainer for a while. It was like $50. Okay. Yeah Subscriptions no
Starting point is 01:15:42 Do you guys have pets? No No pets Anything else that needs to be in your budget That I'm not taking into account yet We have home security We pay that How much?
Starting point is 01:15:54 $48 a month And then we have a boat storage Oh good Wait one second Yeah One second How much was your water again? 150
Starting point is 01:16:04 Okay How much was the home security? 48. How often do you use this boat? We haven't, you know, quite some time. We've talked about selling it. Sell it. But it's, get rid of the storage.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Oh, yeah. And I'm, we're totally fine with that. Just haven't had it had a chance to. Yep. Do it. How much do you think you could sell it for? Low end. Low end?
Starting point is 01:16:27 Low end. 15,000. There you go. Sell it, please. I don't care if you're taking a big loss out. Oh, and that's, I'm, I'm fine with selling it. We've already kind of put that out there. We're going to do it.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Anything. else you need to survive? No. Okay, 6,068 to survive. Minimum, I mean, if what you're saying is true, I'm going to just bring in a thousand for you, actually. But 9,677 comes out. I mean, this is so easy. This is literally just fixing your life. I'll even give you, I'm giving you, I'm giving you $400 for fun. So go ahead and throw that in. I can rarely do. I'm giving you guys $500 for fun. Well, wait, because like in November we have like HOA for the next year. So that's like $800. Okay. H-O-A you have to pay all up front.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I mean, it's due January for the next year, January of 2025. So we'll get it in November. It'll be like $800 you need to pay. Okay, okay. And then like the kids have. Well, hold on. Just set it. Set that aside $800.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Okay. So we're adding 66. We could slowly save and put that aside. Yeah, 67 hours a month. What's a kid thing? So 67 hours a month for the H-O-H-W. Their program's $625 a month. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:17:38 625. What are they doing? They go to Mother's Day Out twice a week. Ah? From August. It's like daycare. It's called Mother's Day Out. It's a daycare twice a week. Why? You're at home. Just to have social interaction with other kids. Okay. Take them to the park or just find something cheaper.
Starting point is 01:17:55 There's other things. Go do it with them during the day. You're at home. We're canceling that because it just doesn't make sense now. If it was daycare so you're working and stuff, that's different. But this is just like go go to programs that are cheaper. You don't, you do not need to be. be doing this. Correct. It's canceled. I'm giving you 500 hours a month for fun that can be included for the kids,
Starting point is 01:18:16 taking the kids doing things, okay? Okay. And having social interaction and, you know, maybe a, uh, I guess they're T-ball starting soon for one of them probably. I don't know. There you go. There's their little interaction. So with that,
Starting point is 01:18:32 9, 6, 7, 7, 7, minus 500 minus 6,068 and then minus the 67 that you're saving for HOA you have an extra 3,000 hours a month. Oh no! What do we do? We spend it.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Nope, not anymore. I gave you $500 for fun. I'm saying in the past we spent it. You guys are fucking getting on me. This is just so easy. And this is what concerns me is again. It's just like, we can figure this out. It's all about you got to keep each other accountable.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Maybe do couples therapy, but... I mean, we do therapy. Do therapy harder. Or find a different therapist. $49,185 a debt. How much is it? $49,185 a debt. I mean, it's barely over a year.
Starting point is 01:19:31 It's a year and a quarter and you guys are debt-free. It's the easiest thing that's ever been on the show. Get an emergency fund. Call it a year in nine months. Be concerned. I'm sort of say two years, but that's the easy. It's so easier than everyone else on this show. You guys here are in so much privilege.
Starting point is 01:19:45 You have no idea. Literally requires the most basic sacrifice. I'm done. This is just so easy. Just do it or don't. Decide to live a great life or don't. That's your choice. And at that point, like, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:19:57 This hasn't been put upon you. This is your choice. This is your choice. You have the easiest way out of this than almost anyone that's been on the show. And if you choose not to, I have no sympathy because that is your choice. But you guys can live an incredible life. And that's up to you. And I'm fucking done.
Starting point is 01:20:09 spending a budget. You overspend zero out of ten debt. There's no collections or anything like that. The debt's pretty bad. Again, for your situation, numbers-wise, the worst in the world, you just have to take care of it. Three out of ten. Emergency fund, one out of ten, because we barely have anything started. Retirement. Okay, for your age, for your income, that's the thing that's going to be holding us back. What do you want to be? I'm going to give you a solid. The 401K loans are going to go against you. Six out of ten there. Real estate owner home, great equity position, great mortgage. great rate. I'm going to give you an 8 out of 10.
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Starting point is 01:21:27 Yes, we can. Why? Do you live in a scary area? No. Oh, my, shut the fuck up. I mean, we live in the school district that everybody wants to move in. Shut the fuck up, you fucking pampered West Palm Beach. I don't know where this kind of pampered comes from. We've been together for 10 years.
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