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I am hiding a big purchase that I recently made, and I bought it right next to her without telling
her.
Right next to her.
Right next to her.
What the fuck are you talking about it?
It's my money.
I mean, it's our money, sorry.
A couple quick buttons, and it was purchased, man.
I set up a camera, and she got to watch this live.
So we're going to bring her in.
She's seen what she's talked about so far.
Be honest with me.
Are you guys only not married because of this?
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Hi, my name is Scott and I'm 29 years old. I'm from San Antonio, Texas, and this is Financial Audit.
Thanks for coming up, man. Double sunglasses, double the power.
You already know, man. I appreciate it. So what do you do in San Antonio for a living?
So I am in the railroad industry, so I'm a railroad carman.
So I work on trains, mechanic.
Beautiful.
How much does that pay?
That pays $24.72 and $72.
It's a little lower than I would have thought.
I'll be honest, but, you know, San Antonio, cheapest of the major cities in Texas.
Let's see how we're stretching this.
How many hours a week are you putting in?
What hits your account?
Yes, so I'm putting in 50 hours a week.
That's with OT, of course.
40 hours.
I'm hitting about 4,000.
a month.
Okay.
Yeah.
But you hit 50.
Yes.
So what's hitting your account on a monthly basis normally?
On a monthly basis, I'd say about 48.
Okay.
48.
Perfect.
So 4,800 hitting the account.
I mean, that would definitely certainly be hard to live off alone.
It's still a major city, but it's one of the cheaper cities, but that is still
57,000 hours a year.
And that's actually sitting around that annual salary of about 54,000 hours in
year.
But, of course, you're working.
working 50 hours a week to hit this overtime. Now, I am wondering because I didn't get to meet you guys before coming on, but I thought I saw someone else walking around. So is this a dual income household? Is that a friend? So it is a dual income household. It's me and my girlfriend.
Your girlfriend? Oh. Yes. So you're not married? We are not married. No. Oh, how long you guys been together? We've been together for about three years.
Dual income. So you guys put everything down the middle. How are we doing this? Because you guys aren't combined on accounts, right?
Yes, so we do have one combined account.
You do?
You're combining an account?
Yes.
Well, the marriage is coming soon.
Okay.
So what is the joint account?
So the joint account, that's pretty much all the bills that come out, you know, split down the middle.
So it's a checking account.
Yes, checking account.
That's a home account.
We do have a checking and a saving account.
Joint savings?
Joint savings.
Well, then unmarried.
Interesting.
A little risky, but okay.
Cool.
What does she bring in?
I guess she's too afraid to.
Being on camera, that's okay.
Well, you guys aren't married.
Yeah.
So she's, I'd say roughly she makes $67,000 a year, so I'm not too sure exactly how much that.
What does she do?
Making more than you.
Yeah, she's a curbside manager for H-EB.
And that makes more money.
Yes.
H-EB.
Dude, we've had people working there.
You can work your way up at most places.
I mean, that is straight up food service retail in that world, the grocery store life.
Oh, yeah.
And she's out there making almost $70,000.
what hits the account from her.
If we have a joint account where money is going in and bills are being spent,
you should know how much is coming in from her
because it would be an important mathematical component to this conversation.
So actually, I do not know how much.
How do you not know how much is coming into a joint account
when that is where all the bills are paid?
So the joint account, she's the one that's mainly in charge of the bills.
Someone you are not married to.
Yes, that is correct.
You're the one here.
Okay.
So what is your insight into the finances then?
So we do have a calendar that we actually, you know,
we have all the due dates on.
She's more than one in charge of that.
I just kind of look at it.
When you say she's in charge of it,
do you mean she's running it?
She's what's posting there.
She's what's, you know, adding things to the calendar,
taking things away and paying the bills.
Yes.
So you're just aware that a calendar exists.
Yeah, I'm just aware like, hey, you know,
the calendar is there, you know.
But what are you aware of the financial situation as a whole?
of you guys. If we're considering you guys together,
what are you even aware of?
The due dates, man. That's pretty much it.
Just the due dates. But you don't even know like the overall balance that the minimum
payment for that due date is actually going towards.
And you don't know what the balance of the account that is paying these minimum
monthly payments are or how much is going into those accounts.
It's just like, hey, this is a due date. This is the amount.
And I'm more of like, hey, it'll, it'll pay itself.
So what do you care then?
I. What's your care?
What's your, because you've obviously just been okay with looking at a very high level.
so you have at least no care from what I can tell out of the gate.
Maybe that's wrong.
Certainly wouldn't be backing that up with never taking any action
to get more information on the accounts and financial situation.
Well, I do try to take account, you know.
I do ask like, hey, you know, whenever this bill is due, what's the amount?
We look at the minimum.
The minimum, yeah.
But why are you doing no more?
then just the high level.
Why are you not trying to learn more about the accounts?
What is actually happening?
Especially if you're letting someone that you are not married to
completely manage this for you.
We just, we don't see eye, you know, on, on any, anything with money.
You don't see eye.
Yeah, we don't see eye to eye when it comes to money.
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I'm the spender in the relationship.
I don't...
So the spender shouldn't know what's happening?
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I'd say to a certain extent, to be honest.
So if you're the spender, you guys don't see eye to eye, so she disagrees with your spending?
So what are these conversations like then?
So these conversations are pretty much, hey, you know, XM, you know, X, B.
bill is due.
Copy and paste response.
Okay, we heard that.
We know what bill is due.
What's the conversation?
If you guys disagree about spending money, what are those conversations?
Those conversations are more like, hey, you know, we, you know, it's pretty hard.
Are there conversations or are you shut down?
You don't listen.
What would she say the conversations are?
The conversation.
There is no conversation.
I do shut down and.
How do you know, how do you even know then that you guys have a disagreement about this?
You're saying we don't see a.
I is what you said.
Yeah. So she doesn't like my spending habits whatsoever.
Okay. How do you know this if you literally never talk about it?
If you can't tell me a conversation that's had about it, how can you even say that?
What if that's the complete opposite?
Well, it's not, I know she doesn't like my spending habits.
Okay, then tell me what the talks around that are.
The talks around that are, you know, I'll just, I'll go behind her back and I'll just
buy stupid things that, you know, I shouldn't be buying.
go behind her back specifically.
Yes, so I don't tell her anything about, you know, my spending habits and what I purchase.
But if she's running the finances, would she not see?
What is the behind the back?
How does that look like?
How are we achieving that?
So we're achieving that.
I do have my separate checking account where my, so my paycheck actually goes into that.
Where does her paycheck go?
Her paycheck goes to her own separate.
And then you guys put into the joints?
Yes, and then we put into the joint for all the bills.
Okay.
What's your guys?
conversations around each other's checking accounts then.
Because if you're specifically saying you go behind her back, what does that look like?
What does that even mean in this context?
I would say just I get paid right in my own a checking account.
And, no, I know.
I'm saying the go behind her back.
Like, in general, if you have your own account, she has her own account.
What is the behind her back?
we just not having those proper conversations in regards to
hey you know asking
for permission if I do want to buy something that's
expected. Do you have to ask permission to buy a tequito?
Do you have to ask permission to buy a gusher?
Do you have to ask permission to get a bottle of water?
How is this working?
I'm trying to get more understanding on what you mean by behind her back.
Gotcha. So I had the fact that I'm not saving
or putting any money into the savings.
behind her back.
Well, so are you telling me you guys agreed on putting a select amount of money towards savings?
Yes.
And then you didn't.
And then I...
And then you spent it.
Is that what you're alluding to?
So, uh, yes.
In other words, uh...
You just say that.
That makes so much more sense.
Because yes, that would be behind her back.
If we are agreeing as a couple, as someone who intends to get married, to become
fiancee and get married and maybe pump out a few kids, to go behind the goal that we set together,
what was the...
Did you agree to the...
goal?
Yes.
When was this goal?
This goal was when we actually first moved in, so together, which was three years ago.
We had an apartment together, and then we recently got a house.
So the conversation was-
Rented or bought?
We bought.
You bought a house together, unmarried?
Unmarried, yes.
Why?
What are you guys trying to do?
If you can't literally control your spending, she runs the finances, and instead of actually
putting money towards savings like you both agreed to three years ago, you then go spend it
on bull-h-uh-the-f what the fuck are you guys getting a house together when you can't even
communicate finances that makes no sense it's so risky i mean i i i really love her right i love the
crap out of her and i know that's you love her you just don't actually do any of the things you
commit to i i would uh i would disagree to that because we do do do a lot of things that we
do commit to um not financially not financially but uh one of the leading causes for divorce in
this country it's not great to have that flaw before even getting it's not great to have that flaw before
getting to the married part.
I disagree, to be honest.
Go on.
What the fuck are you talking about?
So, you know, I just feel that, regardless of my spending habits, I mean, it's my, it's my money.
I mean, it's our money, sorry.
But.
Go on?
I just, uh, you didn't get to stuff a whole buddy.
Keep going.
That's that dirt over your shoulder.
I'm the baby of the family and things just tend to work out, you know.
What?
Yeah.
This doesn't make any sense.
What do you disagree?
No, no, no, no.
You said you disagree.
What's the argument?
The argument is, I mean.
Baby, what's what are you talking about, dude?
I mean, I just feel like I have the right to spend.
Yeah, I mean, I may go behind her back.
No one's saying, don't.
Yeah, I may go behind her back.
Yeah, I may fuck another woman.
No, but who cares?
What?
I don't condone that, but I just, I just feel.
that I do have the right to spend
on things that...
No one says you don't,
but you agreed to commit
to something that was savings.
You agreed to that.
You didn't do that and said
you spent your own money.
You went behind you back.
You broke your word
to the person you love
and want to marry.
So what the fuck are you talking about?
No one's saying you can't spend money.
You're specifically agreed to a goal.
You're not contributing to it
and then you're blowing everything.
You know what?
If you go through the actual statements,
I am saving, not as much as I should be saving or committing to that goal.
How much you should be saving?
What was the, what was the agreed upon goal?
So the agreed upon goal was, hey, we would go ahead and say she deposited $250 into the account,
then I would also deposit it $250 into the savings account.
How frequently?
So we both get paid weekly, right?
So on a weekly basis, hey, you're putting in four, $300, whatever, then I would match that.
But that doesn't necessarily make sense, especially if she makes more than you.
and your guys' finances going into the marriage
I'll end of the relationship
I assume we're not identical
it doesn't make sense that whenever she decides
to contribute however much she wants
that you would be able to do the same exact thing immediately
that doesn't make any sense
oh in my
in my head it doesn't make sense
you know like hey I'm contributing this
X amount of money into the account
so if I'm doing that
you know
most of the time right
I feel like I should be able to spend
No one's saying that is you
Not fulfilling the commitment you made though
Even if it was a weird commitment
Because I'm not a hundred percent
Be very curious what she'd say about that
Is that what you guys agreed to
If she puts whatever dollar amount
You match it right then right there
Right that in there
Most of the...
That doesn't make sense though
What are your finances going into the relationship
So my finances are actually
Not the greatest going into the relationship
Yeah
Oh.
Actually, I had been evading taxes for two years.
What are you talking about?
What does that even mean?
I know what it means, but why the fuck were you doing that?
I was just, you know what?
I was like, you know what?
I don't want to be paying this.
Nobody does.
F that, you know.
As what?
What was your job?
My job, I actually worked for Carvana.
So while I was doing that.
So commission.
Yeah, so, well, not really commission pay.
It was hourly based.
But I was just like.
W2?
You're just taking absolutely.
no withholdings?
So it wasn't, it was hourly base.
So I was a W-2, so they were withholding
taxes. What do you mean you're evading
taxes if they're withholding? You just weren't
filing? I just wasn't filing
any of the taxes. You may have gotten a return.
I was actually still having
to pay whenever I was filing.
I was having to just, you know,
pay the amount that I needed to, you know,
or that they were charging me.
Are you saying you owed more?
at the end of the tax season?
Is that what you were trying to construct in a form of a sentence?
Yes, in a form of a sentence.
I was trying to...
Glad I could help you get there, but...
Okay.
Okay, so your finances were not good when you got married,
and now you're not communicating anything,
and you aren't sticking to a single goal,
and then you guys got a mortgage together.
I assume it was a mortgage, right?
It is.
Not cash, yeah.
Not cash.
Okay.
However, we did, there was a down payment
that we both split to be able to get the house together.
But you have, as far as I know,
because you wouldn't be on the show without a horrendous debt.
Oh, yep.
So what the fuck are you doing?
Is this her debt and your debt?
What does...
No, so that's actually just my debt.
This is just you.
Okay, then it's okay.
Then I'm just talking to you then.
I'm okay with that.
Okay.
What's her debt?
She has no debt to be on.
honest. She is the one that takes care of all the finances. I mean, she's been like that ever since.
Why is she putting up with you? Why is she getting out of mortgage with you? That's so risky of her. That makes no sense.
I mean, my girlfriend made me go to counseling for all this, to be honest.
So that means she trusts you to make a, you went into, okay, went into counseling to fix this?
Yes. Okay, we know what comes in from your paycheck. What did you spend last month from your accounts?
because apparently I only have your accounts.
Uh, if I had a guess, I'd say,
$3,000 maybe.
Okay, counseling hasn't worked.
It was $8,000.
$8,000.
The fuck you're talking about.
Counseling.
Counseling to figure the $1.
You don't even know what's going on.
You spent double what you brought in, you tit?
The fuck you put money down on a down payment.
How should you put down?
We, so it was $6, $6,600, so we split that in half.
FHA?
FHA, yes, first time homebuyers.
Damn.
Don't necessarily always like that,
especially in a confusing market time like this.
You might not have an equity position
if you're forced to sell the house.
And even if you are forced to sell the house,
that percentage isn't really getting you much
if you have to pay for commission on both ends
of the seller and buyer realtors.
How did you come up with that amount of money?
How long did you have to prepare for that?
Because, again, you're spending double.
You're not paying on your debt.
So it took about a month and a half actually to be able to come up with that down payment.
How'd you do that?
But you're not paying off debt.
I was actually budgeting then.
And then you gave up.
You got the house.
I got the house.
Honestly, man, I just got comfortable, to be honest with you.
After we got the house, I was like, you know what?
It'll all work itself out.
You know, I recently got a race.
I was like, you know what?
If I'm making more, maybe I can spend more, you know?
Listen, if she demanded you to go to counseling.
What does it even mean?
Counseling for what specifically?
For the finances?
For the finances.
She demanded that.
Yes.
And when?
She must not trust you.
If she's making you go to literal financial counseling therapy, a little odd.
I'll be honest.
Maybe it's to fix the actions and cope spending that you have, I'm assuming.
So it was more of just me hiding my purchases from her.
That's what.
She found out.
Yeah.
So she found.
She found out.
So she found out with, I guess by me just, you know, she would see all the Amazon boxes that were coming in.
Oh, for, that's not hiding very well, I'll be honest.
And then, you know, just crazy purchases, man.
You know, me just.
Is there anything she doesn't know about today?
There's on.
I mean, I'm glad that she's not here today listening to this because she'd be extremely mad.
But I am hiding a big purchase that I recently made, which was, what?
I'd be honest, a TV, so.
How do you buy a TV without someone knowing that's going to show up?
So I was literally on my phone on after pay and I was like, you know what?
I want a bigger TV.
Why not?
And I bought it right next to her without telling her.
Right next to her.
Right next to her.
The fuck are you talking about, dude.
I mean, I just, you know, a couple quick buns and it was purchased, man.
Why would you not want to communicate that with her?
that's so weird
how much was this
this was
is that what this is
yes
that should be the after pay one so it was
it was not even like
the most expensive thing in the world
but it's that a 22.08% interest
I was like you know what
I don't want to buy it right then
you know just
flat out purchase it you know
because obviously she would have found out a lot sooner
and I was like you know what I'm just going to use
after pay finance it
she's going to find out from watching this episode
what was your plan to
communicate this plus it shows up at the house what are you going to do when she asks how'd you pay for
this so i mean i'm just going to flat out tell her just like hey why didn't you tell her then uh
because i knew she would pretty much not allow me to get that tv she literally has sent you to counseling
how recently it sounds pretty recent pretty recent i'd say about two weeks ago okay if she's doing that
and then you immediately backstab with this this is like someone who got caught cheating got
sent to therapy to deal with it and then cheats after they go to therapy.
What the fuck are you doing, man?
Also, she doesn't know that I paid for mount installation as well.
So they're actually coming out to deliver the TV and mounted on the wall for me.
And your plan exactly when they showed up was, hey, I got a new TV.
Hey!
I got a TV, hey!
Okay.
So, yeah, that was just my plan.
and then like, hey, you know, got a TV, it's already mounted.
I'm not able to return it.
So, you know, just go with the flow, man.
All right.
Well, I mean, I'll be honest.
A little self-confession on my part.
We went behind your back a little bit.
We went behind your back a little bit.
I know we've never done it.
But listen, the producers knew that you were specifically hiding things for them
and the onboarding conversation we had.
So I set up a camera and she got to watch this love.
and unfortunately we are going to turn this into a couple's audit for you.
But the fact is, I mean, the confrontation is not happening when the TV shows up.
The confrontation is happening now because this is a show where couples talk about it.
And even though it seemed like she didn't want to be on camera, oh, she's willing to be on camera
because she knows that you're in, this is why she sent you to therapy.
This is why she wanted you to come on the show, man.
and she worked with us to actually get this setup
so that you guys have a real fucking conversation
for the first time in your Dan lives
because you just keep hiding things.
So we're gonna bring her in.
She's seen what you've talked about so far.
And buddy, um, let's bring in Miss Kelly.
Ladies and gentlemen, a financial audit.
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28 years old from San Antonio, Texas.
future fiancé, future potential wife of Scott.
So Scott, get your ass over there.
I mean, it's a critical piece of a conversation
to be able to communicate what is happening financially
with your partner if you guys want to be together forever.
And I'm glad you came to us with this.
I'm glad you came to us with this.
And honestly, pretty damn good idea that you and the producer said.
I'll be honest.
I mean, what did you think of what you heard?
Because this guy literally just purchased a brand new TV.
I assume you heard that, correct?
No, yeah.
I was in the other room.
Okay.
So I, um, he was already being shady.
I found like bags from boot barn in the closet with receipts.
Um, actually, I think the shirt that he's wearing.
He was hiding it.
Yes.
In the closet.
The fuck is wrong with you.
This is like an addiction.
So, and you had him apply for the show, right?
I applied for him.
Exactly.
It's where a little game she played.
Okay.
Respect.
Mm-hmm.
It was over probably like $100 and just shirts from Boot Barn.
He calls them...
How has this been happening in your mind?
From your viewing of this throughout your relationship,
when did you first start seeing this?
How has it looked?
What do you think?
You called him a man child in the application.
Oh, okay.
Buddy.
Yeah, I'd be cope laughing too.
definitely.
That's why?
Okay, I want to go back to the question I just asked,
but why the fuck you're getting on a mortgage with this guy
that has consistently lied and you keep finding out
and then you just learned about a new purchase literally right now
because he cannot stop that you requested to go onto financial audit
of which you called him a man child in the application
of whom you also sent to counseling.
Why are you getting on a mortgage with him unmarried?
So getting or going towards the end of our apartment lease,
everything was getting better.
Like I told him,
hey,
you need to watch your spending.
And he did for a little while.
What did he hide better?
He may have hit it better.
Because you don't have access to a separate account, right?
No.
So I only have access to our joint account.
So we have my checking.
He has his checking.
But you tell me,
be honest,
right fucking now in the couple months that you were doing better,
how much extra precaution?
put aside for hidden purchases.
I would say at the very least.
This is it. This is fucking now.
I don't want bullshit.
Half of my check.
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Half of the peck went to bull.
Yeah, so at the time,
we were only paying, what was it, 500?
So in the apartment, I was paying more because I make more.
Yeah, fair enough.
And so he was only paying.
He just had half of his paycheck went to bullshit,
even though you thought he was getting better.
Insta reaction.
Yeah.
So I just don't know what to believe anymore.
I don't.
This is why we went to counseling because I'm like, hey,
yes, it's couples counseling.
Yes.
Couples counseling.
Yeah, he immediately leaves the session,
sits next to you,
and orders the TV on a firm with 23.
which is that interest, not a firm whatever
afterpay out of one of those.
How much interest?
What the fuck?
22.08.
Without your knowledge.
He was literally only going to tell you
when it showed up at the house, by the way.
Amazing, yeah?
Yeah.
Sounds right.
To be, can't hide that like a shoebox.
I mean, to be fair,
uh,
my.
To be fair what?
My credit limit did increase, uh,
via after pay.
So I did, you know,
that's why I extended the payment.
To be fair, her,
so she was,
tight. What if he said that when it came to cheating? Does that, is that how that works?
No. To be fair, her tits were big. Like, I'm, what? This excuses a cheat. I'm using that analogy
because this is basically like financial cheating. Financial cheating. You went behind your back
after agreeing and going to constantly and all these conversations. That she fucking applied on the
show for what has very clear reasons now. There's no, there's no other explanation, but
I mean, I'm still glad I made that purchase, man.
For what?
I mean, it's for, I mean...
We did not need a new TV.
We did not.
We had, what, a 52, 55?
A 55 inch.
A 55 inch TV.
We just got the house, like, May 6th.
We did not need a new TV.
Did you just hear what he said?
He has no regret.
He literally went behind your back and he has no regret.
Like, I don't even know what to do with that.
Because that's not denial or putting it.
pushing back. That's not
fighting me on something. That is just a complete
I don't give a fuck. Oh, I did
wrong. Yeah, he's not even saying he did wrong.
I mean, what are your thoughts
on this, dude? Talk to him, man. He's here. He's here now. Listen, this is the
conversation that you probably should have had. He was going to
wait for the TV to show up for it. Now's your time. So then
the TV shows up and then what? I mean, it's already installed. So it's like,
I'm not going to return it, you know? That's...
No, we are returning it.
We don't need that TV.
I mean, we already have two 55-inch TVs.
And now we have a 75-inch TV.
But for, like you, but for what?
For sports, NFL.
I mean.
NFL?
Your team doesn't even win?
Ah, that's not fair.
But I just, I wanted a bigger TV so I can see the sports, fights, paper views,
all that great stuff.
I mean, you know, that's.
So you're going to spend more money to watch the fights?
After we've already discussed that we're not going to be spending extra money.
I mean, it's not like it's a $2,000 or $3,000 TV, you know?
It doesn't matter.
That could have gone towards another debt.
That could have gone towards literally anything else.
Well, no, it's not so.
What the fuck kind of response is that, Dick?
Is this how he usually acts?
There's no personal responsibility.
Is he a little nervous because he's on camera?
He usually just, like, laughs.
Once he realizes I'm getting mad, he, like, does his little grin that he has right now and just laugh.
I don't know what you saw, what you heard, because I don't know how that setup was over there, but did you hear the part where he talked about the literal factor is like, okay, so what are your guys in conversations on this? Oh, uh-uh.
Mm-hmm.
So he doesn't even know what is said in the conversations.
Which sounds right, because we argue about him not listening a lot.
Fucking kidding.
Okay, so then you tell me, these conversations around finances, what actually happens, what did they look like in detail?
So we do have the calendar that I set up.
It has like the account number when it's due and how much is due.
And then about a week and a half before it's due, I'm like, hey, you need to put this much into the account.
I'm going to put this much because this payment is due.
He kind of just puts money in account, looks away, that's it.
I could probably scam him by telling him that more is due than necessary, honestly,
because he doesn't know how much anything is.
How do we deal with someone who won't listen?
If he has no takeaway from any financial conversations,
he couldn't bring up one point that you guys ever even talked about.
And then you guys have a disagreement about spending,
which I think is an understatement now that we've kind of learned what is actually happening.
But okay.
So how do you even deal with that?
What have you been doing to try to mend this?
I don't even know.
So I saw the boot barn bag, right?
So I was like, he's obviously still spending money.
He doesn't take care of his things.
For example, like his flashlights at work.
He loses one.
He's like, oh, I could just order anyone.
So he's just spending unnecessary money.
So it's making me, like, anxious because I have to have a plan with, we need to have this much money by this time.
So, I lost where I was going.
Be real.
Be honest with me.
100%.
Are you guys only not married because?
of this? Is this the almost
like last standing hurdle?
Well, he hasn't asked, first of all.
But honestly, I don't think I could say yes
knowing that he's like this.
She wouldn't say yes if you proposed.
Which is that unfair? I honestly
would say no. One of the leading cause of her divorce.
Your finances from the sounds
of it, not that he would actually even know.
Sounds like they're okay, right?
Yeah. Okay.
First of all, interesting pick of a person
dodging taxes for two years when you guys first met.
But okay.
She would literally say no if you propose.
So what are you doing to fix that?
I ain't a 75-inch TV for sports.
I mean, it's not the greatest idea, right?
I do eventually want to ask and be able to marry her.
What's even his team?
The Raiders.
I knew he was.
Okay.
He even has it tattooed on him.
I do, actually.
Mind you, I got that years ago.
I didn't hide that tattoo or that purchase from her.
What have?
What have?
So she's not going to marry you.
Do you even give a fuck?
I do.
I do, actually.
Well, I mean, it's her for, you know.
I do want to try to be a better person, you know,
and actually work on these finances and take away these bad spending habits, you know.
And honestly, it's more of like for the thrill of it.
That is not a line with the attitude you have had so far.
And the things you've been saying,
even regret the TV purchase and you say it's for fucking sports.
You put it on a high interest card.
You hit an Intel delivery.
I can't tell delivery has happened or not.
It doesn't even matter at this point.
But it's just like, this is not aligned with the sentiment you've had.
Like I, okay, maybe when you think about marriage, all of a sudden you're like, oh, a little
mushy, yay.
Yes, that's what I want.
But the actions you're leading outside of this room are not leading to that end.
They're not achieving that marriage that you want to.
She's not going to fucking tie the knot with you.
Why would she?
Why would she?
Why would anyone with your history, you're not being able to change?
You're going to couples therapy and you're not even changing.
In fact, you've done something even worse again.
So a couple's therapy, I want to get into these finances here in a second.
But the last question.
Okay, obviously you brought the couple's therapy in as a
attempt to fix.
As you've been finding this
hidden spending,
hidden purchases, all this stuff,
throughout the years,
what have the attempts looked like
to try to fix this?
For the most part,
well, I thought he was not spending,
but it looks like he was just hiding it better.
So I guess there haven't really been any attempts
other than me trying to take him to couples counseling.
I want you to be able to be a little candid real quick.
because, you know, he was candid
when he didn't know you're listening.
And you'll know he's there
and you know he can watch this back,
but at least right now I want you to be able to be candid.
Can we put some headphones on him?
I don't want to ask you a couple more intimate questions
into this relationship
without the fear of him immediately hearing him now.
Scott.
Scott, can you hear me?
He's playing?
Scott.
You have a micrack, don't you?
That's what Kelly told me.
Scott, your peevee so tiny, right?
He's downing his head, yes.
All right, Ms. Kelly.
In as much detail as possible,
how this hidden spending affects your relationship.
On that deep, on the deepest levels.
So I don't trust him.
I,
especially now that knowing he was sitting next to me,
buying the...
Make sure that is overhand.
his fucking lobe?
The fuck is wrong with this guy.
So just knowing that he was
buying it right next to me,
like I've...
That's insane.
Yeah, like I've never...
I know that...
texting...
Yes.
Yeah.
And I know if I wanted to go through his phone,
I definitely could.
But, I mean, I don't feel the need to.
And now I'm like...
Should we?
But I guess this time...
We should.
I guess NFL season last year,
he was also hiding that he was sports betting.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
No.
And his
Of me.
His reasoning was, well, I'm winning more than I'm spending and it's like, I don't care.
And let's see if that's even true.
Yeah.
So, and you're betting on a, I mean, I don't know how it works, but you're betting on a team that never wins anyway.
So I don't know.
But it's just, it's causing me to not trust him.
And I love him.
I do.
I feel like if we could get past this, we would have a strong future together.
but right now I just, that spending is just crazy.
Now, what made you suspicious of the spending in the first place?
I think mainly finding that boot barn bag and then the different Amazon packages.
Like with me, I'm very, hey, I'm going to get this.
What do you think about that?
Or I found it at a better price.
What do you think about that?
And him, it's kind of like he just gets it delivered.
He's like, oh, with his little smirk, oh, I bought this for work or whatever.
He thinks it's cute.
Yes.
Oh, for it.
I don't even know how did he even deal with something like that.
Are there other things you think is hiding?
Just based on this, man, based on this history and just the lack of trust?
I couldn't tell you.
If he is, he's hiding it very well.
You haven't had a suspicion or fear?
Mm-mm.
No.
No fear of it?
I mean, as far as spending, I think that...
So you think this is strictly down to the spending?
Yeah.
Okay.
What makes you so confident on that fact?
I think because of like I wanted to go on to his phone, I could.
I don't, I know I wouldn't find anything.
I would say it's strictly financially.
Or he's learned about hiding very well.
That could be true.
I mean, I would hope not, but that could be true.
And then you got our house with him.
Yes.
What were your reservations on getting on a mortgage together?
I would say that he wouldn't have the payment in time.
Have you guys made a payment yet?
We just made a, yeah.
We just made our first mortgage payment.
Did he pay it on account?
Yes.
Yes.
But then that's when it came down to the calendar where I was like,
hey, like our mortgage is due next week.
He's like, oh, already?
And I'm like, yeah.
Like, it's on a calendar.
It's on a calendar.
And he gave it quick.
Yes.
Okay.
It was in the account.
He just means like the hard reminders.
Yes.
Okay.
And that's what I'm saying.
It's like a child.
Like I'm like, okay.
Our bills are due.
This is how much.
All right.
Let's bring them back into the conversation.
You can unmute it, Les.
Scott, in your mind, do you feel like she has to treat you like a child?
Not necessarily.
I mean, I don't think I'm a child.
Bring the mic to your face, would be number one.
No, I don't think I'm a child.
You don't feel like she has to treat you like a child?
I don't feel that way.
Does she feel like she has to treat you as a child?
No.
Why?
Because, A, I'm not a child, and, I mean, I'm a grown-ass man, you know?
Did see.
He's over the age of 18, which makes him an adult.
I mean, I...
She says she has to treat you like a child.
It doesn't make a mortgage payment.
I mean, at the end of the day, the bills are getting paid?
Are they not?
Because she had to treat you like a child to get you to do it.
It was not on your own.
It was via no personal responsibility of your own.
I mean, it is my money that's going in there.
I mean, sorry, our money.
This should be interesting.
This is our money.
That's our money.
Well, you guys aren't married.
So I'm okay with that still being separate.
But even still, when you guys do get married, I'm not confident he's going to view it as y'all's money.
I think he's going to view it his money.
And you're going to get married to that.
Why?
Why?
Clearly.
And I'm okay with hers mind right now.
You guys are not married.
You know, the mortgage is weird.
The combined account gets a bit weird.
You guys have overcomplicated this before moving to the next step.
Absolutely.
But either way, clearly, I don't think that mindset is going to change.
Why do you view this as like a fucking hoarding?
I work hard for it, man.
You know, and what's like, why am I not able to splurge just a little bit?
I don't think it's about splurging a little bit,
but I think that there's a lot of times where we could maybe compromise.
We could compromise.
Like, you didn't need a $500 TV.
Maybe we could have done like 300.
Or you didn't need a 72 inch TV.
Maybe we could have done, I don't know what's next 65, whatever.
How do you compromise?
to someone who can't have the conversation who just giggles it all off.
I mean, you ended up getting a new phone, so...
Okay, but we talked about it.
I got your input, right?
And I'm not saying that you need my permission,
but it would have been nice to hear,
hey, what do you think about this instead of just doing it?
And my phone had been dying for like months
before I even asked you, hey, what do you think?
But I figured, hey, you know, you get any phone?
Why can I get any TV?
How much debt does she have outside of the mortgage?
I have my car.
and obviously the mortgage.
Interest of the car?
Was it 6? 6%.
How much debt do you have outside of the mortgage?
About 90K?
Well, yeah, I think you guys are in slightly different positions.
I'm going to go 3, 2, 1 go on go.
I want you guys at the exact same time
to give me what you think your household financial score is.
Okay, 0 to 10, 0 being the worst, 10 being the best.
I want to see where you guys think you are.
three, two, one, go.
Three.
Now, what do you think his score is alone, not with you?
Three.
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So the fucking TV.
You didn't even know about it.
What is this?
What, a firm or what again?
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Well, it's about essentially right now, $597.53. So what I'm going to say.
22.08% interest, right? If you walked into that TV and there was a 22.08% fee for buying it, would you?
Well, now that you say it out loud, probably not, but...
Exactly. You know? You know what? No, you know what. I just, I, I just, I,
I wanted a bigger TV just to watch sports.
I think we understood that.
No shit.
I would die on the hill.
You would go behind her back again.
At a 22.0% interest rate.
That's what he's saying.
He would die on that hill.
Did you hear that?
He's dying on that fucking hill.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
The fuck.
Thoughts.
Because what the fuck?
What the fuck?
It's just he has.
What do you do with that?
I don't think he's ever seen like consequences to his actions.
That's why he's just like, oh yeah, like it'll
everything I'll work out.
He also failed to tell her something else.
What else?
Because I don't know it either.
What the fuck else have you not said?
I'm trying to think.
The fuck else have you not said, you tit?
I mean, there's probably other multiple things, but.
What the fuck?
I don't know it, buddy.
I don't know it.
I'm not you.
They're just telling me that there's something else you failed.
You failed to even tell her.
Like, it's absolutely insane.
I mean, the minimum fee payment on this is $56.28.
And again, the interest charge is huge.
But what did you fail to tell her?
What did you fail?
So I, now that I guess I'm remembering,
I failed to tell her how much money we spent on the housewarming party,
which was the whole reason why I wanted to get that TV.
What?
Yeah, you laugh about it.
That's what we're laughing about, guy.
So, yeah, she doesn't know that we spent roughly around $800 for the house warming party.
What the fuck?
That was including beer, food, the entertainment.
Originally, he wanted to cater it.
And I said no.
Hitter.
Okay.
Some barbecue.
Yeah, yeah.
Make it yourself, dude.
I thought you were a big man.
Isn't that what you said?
I'm just learning how to grill.
And you don't even know how to grill it, 29?
I mean, I didn't grow up without a dad, so.
Huh?
I didn't grow up with my dad.
so I wasn't taught.
So you should be the one cooking on a grill then.
Younger.
I should have.
Congratulations.
You had the extra blessing of needing to cook on the grill at a younger age.
Better late than never.
But that's what I'm like.
He has.
That never is.
He's never coming back.
He just doesn't see.
He's like, oh yeah, I spent $500 on this.
I spent $800 on that.
And it's like at what point were you going to say something?
Well, here's the reality.
You guys should be able to afford that combined household income.
But the fact is, how much did you think was spent on this?
Like 200 back.
Now, why did we have to hide this?
Because that's even the thing.
Again, this is not, it's not an insignificant amount of money.
You guys can afford it.
It could have been in a budget and I would have allowed this.
But it's the, it's the action what you did.
You hid what was spent on it.
Why?
Why?
It's the endless action of the hiding.
Why?
I think that he's just easily influenced by his friends.
What did your friends say to do?
Who can't grill?
So.
They said, go ahead and get.
a blackstone griddle.
And I wanted the blackstone griddle.
But unfortunately...
That was included in the housewarming party?
Is you bought a griddle?
So we bought a griddle so that way we were able to go ahead and barbecue.
Instead of cater.
Instead of catering.
Okay.
So in reality, and I'm not sh** stones.
I do like them.
Basically just grilled and like a cast iron pan on your stove.
You didn't even get any fucking firebri on there or any charcoal taste.
I mean, you just flaskstone.
I love a flask stone.
It's not just that, though.
It's like, he'll be at work and he's like,
John Smith walked in with these new boots,
and now I want these new boots,
or so-and-so came in with a pearly,
now I want a pearly.
So-and-so got an Aureat wallet.
I want an Aureat wallet.
Dude, you're so fucking consumer-cultured.
You're so consumer-cultured.
You just have to buddy,
individual therapy on potential
addictive tendencies and
cop spending around that consumer culture spending
might be very important for you.
If you have your inability to control
and it's okay to get excited about things here and there,
it's okay to get passionate about things,
maybe getting deep diving into the Blackstone,
and maybe I would support that.
Maybe we can fit it in the budget.
The thing is, if you just see something,
see something that someone else is doing it,
you're just hyper excited about it constantly
and you have to get it no matter what
and you'll hide up on your back,
that means you're in the world
of some kind of addiction, similar to gambling, some kind of addiction, similar to...
Some kind of addiction, similar to sex.
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You have this addiction that you have to hide from someone else in order to fulfill.
And that might require some individual therapy because clearly that is not just some one-off thing.
Would you agree?
Uh-huh.
You literally had to hide behind her back that the housewarming party cost $800 when maybe you guys talked about her.
She would have supported it.
I mean, I guess my pushback on that would be if I,
I did talk to her about it,
then we wouldn't be able to get everything that we were able to get.
So if you don't 100% win, you'll just go behind her back in order to achieve it.
So no communication.
She came to you and you agreed on the phone,
even though she's in a better financial situation than you,
and you guys are not married.
But she came to you for input.
You guys agreed and then she did it.
Would you have done it if he did not agree?
Probably not.
So what are you on this other side with, okay,
it doesn't matter what she says,
I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want.
I know that I got to learn from it.
No, what a bull-fitted answer.
I mean...
God, it's disgusting.
I just...
Yeah, I mean, I guess if going to therapy hopes, why not, you know?
Is he ever borrowed from you?
No, not that I know of.
Well, they're telling me he bought a UFC fight for the housewarming on accident on...
Oh, on your credit card.
And now you owe the money.
How much was it?
It's about $90.
and actually...
Which again, that's not...
Online?
It's not nothing,
but it's also something
if you guys communicated about,
it would have probably been fine.
No, because I don't have a balance on my Amazon.
Well, you probably pay it off without...
I mean, to be fair, right?
I thought that it was my...
I thought it was my Amazon account that it was...
Yeah, but once you found out,
why the fuck would you not communicate it?
She actually saw it right then in there
as soon while I was purchasing it.
Huh?
Yeah.
I didn't.
Oh, I thought that you didn't, and I just went along with it, you know?
You guys are so...
Okay.
Okay.
I guess not, yeah.
I didn't...
What the fuck is happening, guys?
And that was actually three paper-be fights that I bought that night of the...
What the fuck?
Housewarming party.
What a catch.
Okay, let's talk about whatever this is.
Okay, there's a Honda.
Okay.
What the fuck?
This is a substantial minimum thing?
What is this car?
I assume this is your car.
Because these are only your statements, right?
Yeah, these are my Simmons.
Okay, what is this car?
It's a Honda Civic hybrid sport touring.
Year?
2025.
Did you need this much of a car?
I did not, but my reasoning.
My reasoning behind it was the car that I had before was under a co-signer, right?
So I just wanted to go ahead and get them out out of it.
The car you had, but why didn't you just refinance that loan?
How much was left on that loan?
Uh, it's about five years still
That previous car
Balance, you tit
About 27,000
Okay, so you'll
Borderline doubled it
And you use that as the justification
The oh, I want to get them off
The cosign?
That's, no, that's fucking stupid
I guess my pushback on that
Right would be
I just didn't watch you know
Well, now you have a $760
$40 minimum with the payment
It's still a hybrid though
You have to work 50 hours a week
even when you work 50 hours a week, buddy.
Even when you...
It's still a hybrid.
Who gives the fuck, man?
I drive an electric car,
and I'm not jerking it off.
Some would say I am, but...
And that's the 16% of your income
working 50 hours a week.
50 hours a week, 16% of your income goes to this car.
Tremendous.
I was able to get the co-center off.
Well, yes, I assume you traded this in, right?
Yes, and I was upside down.
About $8,000.
That's what was...
tacked on for this one.
So what was even the fucking point at that point then?
Because now you must be dramatically underwater on this.
I'm not too sure.
I haven't, you know,
seen exactly how much the vehicle's worth recently.
But I do have about 18,000 miles on it.
Okay, we're figuring out the value of the car.
I understand wanting to get a co-siner off.
I do understand that.
But again, there were smarter options.
And you're dead.
Did you not need a co-senter for this?
I did actually, she's my co-signer.
Okay.
Who was the co-sign of the original one?
One of my good buddies.
So he wanted to get a truck for his dad
who's vehicle truck.
Why'd you co-sign for this?
Why'd you co-sign for this?
Why are you supporting his behavior?
Yeah.
I don't have an answer for you.
His never-ending behavior.
Why are you supporting it?
So originally he wanted to try and get a truck.
I don't even know what kind of a V8 truck, some shit, I don't know.
Ford F1.50.
Great.
So you can pick up your weekly groceries.
Actually move furniture around, but yeah, that too.
Yeah, how often?
Twice a year help friends move?
Yeah.
Well, I guess his reasoning was because we were going to move out of the apartment.
We don't have to spend all you all.
So I have to literally go tens of thousands of dollars into debt into a huge appreciating asset to move out once instead of going to Home Depot and renting a truck.
What the fuck is wrong?
What kind of logic is that?
Now, of course, what do you think it's worth?
Because it's, you owe $44,5002.
$21.
What do you think it's worth?
I got the value.
I believe it's worth about $24.
27, but that's still insane, buddy.
That's still ridiculous.
It's only worth what the last car you owed on it.
Yeah, I guess working for Carvana didn't help, you know,
my insights on it.
Oh, for sake.
Never go to Kavana anyone anyway, regardless.
Everything's just overpriced there and they won't fucking,
come down on any price.
There's no negotiating.
It's all fucked.
It's a horrible place.
I don't know if it matters,
but it is fully loaded, so.
It doesn't.
You know, I'm fucking Kirby, dude.
I don't give a shit.
So I had like a semi meltdown when he got this car because...
You co-signed for it.
Yes, afterwards.
Because I was like, if you're going to pay it,
do it, fine, whatever.
But I think the payment went up by like $150,
the monthly payment.
So it was already already in an unenforable payment.
It was, so the Corolla, which was a 2023, that one, the payment was 540.
Yeah, it was 540.
What is with you, man?
This isn't saying this term must be long, 76 payments left.
Yeah, kill me now.
Fuck's sake.
I have to ask.
I've asked this before, and it could be a wake-up call to your significant other.
What percentage of you, and I know it's not 100, because you're still here, but what percentage of you from 0 to 100 is considering just walking?
the fuck away because of everything that is happening still.
I'd say about 10.
Okay.
Where a part of me is like, uh-huh.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this is really isn't influencing you very much.
I think because I know he can hustle and everything will get paid,
but it's just the stress that leads up to everything.
What do you mean though?
Like his debt is 90,000 bad.
What?
How do you even know?
How can you say you know that?
Where is that evidence?
I don't have it.
Yeah, I guess as far as like the monthly payments.
I know that.
Yeah, but that doesn't matter.
The minimum.
It just adds more to the overall debt and hides things.
I don't know.
I mean, to be fair, I've never been late on a payment that we've had together.
I've always been able to come up with the money for it before the due date.
I could have swore I saw on these notes somewhere that you had collections, though.
Those were previous to us.
So what do you think the word never means?
Okay, since we've been together
I don't even believe that, honestly.
You're not a reliable narrator at all.
Not even close.
Shad a narrator voice, that'd be pretty cool.
Okay.
What's the interest rate on this car guy?
The interest rate on it, I believe it's somewhere within the 8% or 9%.
Okay, it's not good.
You're not beating the market with this,
especially with you taking the account the depreciation on the asset.
Well, my intentions were hopefully being able to fully, you know,
refinance it under just my name
with the lower...
What's fucking what?
You have 90,000 hours of bad debt.
Your debt income's insane.
What refinancing are you doing?
It's not like rates are good right now regardless.
So what the fuck are you talking about?
My credit score has gone a little higher.
Yeah, what's your credit score, guy?
635, which is fair.
I'm not saying it's good or great.
Yeah, you're not going to get a better interest rate.
Credit karma says otherwise.
Is it a guarantee rate or they'll pay you?
Is it one of those? Or they're just selling you to apply
do a credit. So exactly.
So for that car,
Toyota
was supposed to get,
was supposed to get that payment from Honda,
but they didn't.
So he had to make like a double payment.
Oh, for a second. So I had to lend him
that $500. You had to lend him money.
Yes. That was only
once though. It's not like it was a constant.
Come on. It's not embarrassing.
It was that $520, like you just
spent on that TV.
And you call yourself a man.
I mean, that was just once.
You're a child.
You're a boy.
I don't think so.
Well, and what evidence do you have to provide otherwise?
You're able to get a house mortgage together.
FHA, which you provided 50% of, it was a couple thousand dollars.
When it comes to getting into a house that is pretty damn insignificant.
A couple thousand dollars within, you know, a month and a half.
I think that's...
A couple thousand dollars of which, in order to replicate the spending you still want to do, you just put on credit instead.
So again, you really didn't do anything to get it.
there, you just deferred where that money was spent
and put.
Shut the fuck up. I have your spending. You spent double last month that he made.
You know, what do you think about that? I forgot about that part.
Yeah, that's fucking insane. Spend 8 brought in 4-6. 4-8.
I thought it'd be a lot lower than that.
Oh, I'm sure you did the guy that never looks at his accounts
and is unwilling to communicate with his future wife about what is happening
in the accounts. Yeah, I bet you would think that.
Great.
The day after you moved into your house, you got scammed for what?
That was the water softener, I believe.
So we were pretty much moving.
He'll just get sold on anything.
He'll just buy anything.
What did you do?
What did you spend?
What happened?
So the day of the move in, we're moving, right?
We're helping the movers.
It's hot.
It was earlier this summer.
And just some guy in a freaking, what do you call those?
Segway little thing.
He was just like, hey, you know, like.
Usually when people show up with one of those, I shoot them.
You let them sell you?
So he was just like, hey, man, you know, the water here in San Antonio or in Texas in general, it's hard, you know, it's hard water.
So, you know, if you're interested in a water softener, I can throw in a garage opener, I can throw in blinds for the house, which I don't know if you're aware, they do not come with new builds nowadays.
So I was like, you know what, we can knock all three of those out, you know, in the day we move in, you know.
We're going to do one of solar salesmen's fucking shows up because they always show.
No, they came.
Well, okay, and they turned him down.
No.
So, I'm watching him from my room on the ring camera, and Homeboy is out there.
What the fuck?
Homeboy is out there, and they're like, we'll pay off your water softener, we'll do this, we'll do that.
And I'm like, no, texting him, nope, don't do it, don't do it.
And did he pull up in a lime scooter?
I think they had like a little joy thingy.
Actually, he had one of those hoverboards just throwing that out there.
It was a hoverboard, not a segue this time.
So.
You are a child.
Homeboy's like, yeah, we have an appointment with your neighbors.
We can come back after since your, since your girlfriend's not here, whatever.
He's lying saying I'm not there.
I come out and I'm like, no, we're good.
Thank you.
And he's like, but we can pay off this.
Doesn't that sound good to you?
You said that?
No, the guy, the salesman.
He's like, wait, doesn't that sound good to you?
We'll pay everything off and it's going to lower your energy bill.
And I'm like, no, we're good.
He's still standing there like, oh.
And I'm like, no, we're good.
I was just like, you know what?
Maybe that does sound good.
You know, hey, we can pay off the water.
water softener, if they're going to go out and pay it off.
I physically had to drag him into the house.
I'm not even kidding.
He needs to go to his own separate therapy about consumer.
Consumerism.
He is so deep in the consumerism, he'll be sold or anything.
It'll help lower the energy.
Solar can be good, but it still takes like 20 years for it to break even, something like
that oftentimes.
You're in a sunny your place, absolutely, but still.
Still, it's brutal, man.
Well, at least I didn't get sold on that.
But I did get the water softener.
Yeah, because she was there.
What did you spend on the water softener?
I want to say it was like 5, 5, 4,100.
Ew!
I've lived in quite a few houses in Austin, Texas,
and I've never had water softener.
I don't give a fuck, that shit rolls off me.
I don't care.
It was worth it.
No?
Our water is, tastes pretty good, actually, now.
Take water softener.
Isn't that just for the comfort of showering?
It's not for...
They added a spiket to the sink so that, yeah.
And the fridge.
Well, that was already.
And the fridge, they added.
water to the fridge.
Yeah, that's, that, that's, that already happens, guy.
You don't even know what you got.
I think he just loves getting scammed.
Yeah, no, he just, no, no, he, I'm totally serious.
He legit needs to go to therapy that focuses in the world of addiction,
that focuses on his consumerism.
I'm not even kidding.
I'm not even kidding.
This is in a similar vein with his actions in the world of gambling.
That's where he is in the world of consumerism.
getting sold on something or seeing something anywhere,
seeing an ad, seeing someone he knows
that has something, he needs to get it.
I think, well, speaking of gambling,
I was addicted to price picks a couple months ago.
That is the least surprising thing I've heard all day.
He, uh...
I was winning more than I was losing, just putting it out there.
Well, you were gambling behind her back, right?
Isn't that what you said or did you tell me that?
I forgot even at this point in the conversation.
Someone told me something.
Yeah, I was gambling behind her back as well.
And you found out?
Yeah.
How'd you find out?
Because he would brag about it afterwards,
saying that he won more than he actually spent.
And that time.
They give us, what do they give us?
So it was referral codes.
I would refer all my coworkers and then I would get, you know,
$50 to be able to gamble per coworker.
I just got another note.
How the fucking you even get scammed at Buffalo Wild Wings?
That was also with his buddies at work.
What is wrong with you?
What kind of scam even happens there?
So after a long day at work, you know, my work buddies were like,
hey, let's go to Buffalo Wild Wings, drink some beers.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
So they get there before me.
I was stuck in some traffic, whatever.
I get there, and there's a guy out there, and he's just like, hey, you know, we're
doing this thing for the kiddos.
Guaranteed he was a head homeless guy.
He may have looked like it, but so it was just more of like, hey, you know, we're doing
this thing for the kids, buying backpacks, whatever.
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He was a meth head homeless guy.
And it was like, hey, you can sign up for just 30 bucks.
It was a donation.
I was like, you know what?
Cool.
Maybe I can write that off of my taxes that I did pay this year.
Buddy, in no fucking way are you doing your own deductions on your taxes.
You are 100% taking a standardized
deduction. What the fuck are you talking about if you even pay your taxes? But go on.
So I do pay my taxes now. But so anyway, so that I was like, cool, you know, here's 30 bucks,
whatever. I go inside, um, do my thing there. And then come to find out, they actually enrolled
me in a subscription, a monthly subscription where $30 is taken away. This fucking guy, man.
He will do anything and he laughs about it. He doesn't even, he doesn't give a fuck. He thinks it's funny.
The joke's not funny because it's affecting her.
It was just you?
Yeah.
You guys don't have kids, right?
No.
No kids.
Just two dogs.
Is it planning?
Are we planning on the babies?
Not any time soon until the-
Okay, thank the fuck.
Because, my goodness, you're a joke.
Okay, what is this time investment?
I've never heard of this.
That is the water softener.
Oh, and it's called time investment?
He laughs about it.
I mean, it's time invested in cleaning your water.
You realize he thinks this is a joke.
I don't think he realized.
is like how much everything is.
No, I disagree, actually.
He said approximately how much bad debt he has.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Because he was actually able to say pretty darn close to the number.
He doesn't care.
I do care.
And I know that's what everybody says, but...
You're laughing at it.
You're giggling.
You say you wouldn't take back the TV.
What the fuck are you telling me you care about?
Show me you care.
What can you say that indicates you care, guy?
So I don't see it.
I want to make a difference in our relationship.
I'm glad you want to.
Why have you done no actions that would suggest you do?
I think it just goes back to my behavioral, right?
My behavior in general, that's what I need to change first to be able to.
Good general statement.
Now let me ask again, why haven't you then?
All talk, no action.
I just love the thrill of spending, that's why.
Exactly.
And that's where he needs to go to some kind of counsel
that focuses in the world of addiction
because he is chasing that dopamine release.
You really are.
And I'm not saying that, I mean, it is objectively bad, absolutely.
But it is so much more prevalent today than ever.
We are a more consumer-driven culture than ever before.
And it is okay if you have a problem.
You need to seek the fucking help.
Build on habits, stop it for a couple months.
If you do something for a couple of months,
a habit is built.
Just fucking budget for a couple months and don't spend your money on bullshit.
And you'd already be in a better place.
So you have $3,506.59 on this with $53.68 of minimum is your minimum monthly payment.
What's the interest on this?
10% I believe.
I mean, it was worth it for the blinds in the garage door opener and clean water.
Your garage did not have a garage.
door opener?
What the fuck new builder
you guys getting?
I get the blinds.
Yeah, why would it come
with the blinds?
You want to get the blinds
that fit the style
the decoration that you're going to do?
Yeah, that makes sense.
Garage door opener,
what the fuck you guys getting?
It's a Linar home, so.
Huh?
It's a Linar home,
so most of those new buildings do not go.
I've heard that's quite,
isn't that the cheapest of the,
isn't that the carnival cruise
of the home building industry?
I think it is.
But, you know,
that was just my excuse.
You know, we're like,
hey, we're moving in.
Let's just,
take care of all this stuff right then and there, you know,
instead of having to save up and invest.
Save up and invest. Yeah, we get the garage door opener
and you get some curtains that are a bit cheap for a while
until you can afford it.
Oh, for, say credit one.
This is an indicator of being someone with the worst finance as possible.
It's basically as bad as you can get.
And I'll get you set up with the FISCard.
It's a debit card that builds credit.
Certainly a lot better.
And I also gets you a course career certification
so that we can get in hopefully a better paying job.
Like you make pretty good money now,
but maybe we can get into, one, a more moral field, first of all,
and two, something that where maybe your guys' incomes are a bit more tied.
Just because that helps the household.
So I'll gift you both of those.
But credit one, the fuck is going on with this card, guy.
So that first credit card, or credit one card, was, you know,
I was trying to take that first step into being able to build my credit back up again.
So this all happened when I was living with one of my brothers.
he's just like, hey, you know, as long as you're, you know, working, saving money,
which I was not saving money.
He's like, you're allowed to stay here.
So I was like, you know what?
Let me apply for some credit cards.
Try to rebuild my credit after this Dallas forward situation that happened with my ex-girlfriend.
So we had to get evicted from an apartment complex.
You've been evicted before.
Yeah, we could.
Not surprised.
It was an $1,800 apartment payment?
No, it was an apartment.
What's your mortgage payment?
1416.
Not surprised you've been evicted.
Look at how you live life.
So you get on to a mortgage with someone who's been evicted in the past.
Interesting strategy.
Not a play I would have made personally.
I mean, it wasn't my fault at the time, right?
I believe I've had, you know, or money has played a big part in my relationships,
including the past.
But in that relationship...
It does.
Yes, that is a basic of relationships.
Who would have thought?
Yeah, but in that relationship, I was on this.
was trying to keep the boat afloat.
So there was no way that boat would stay afloat then?
Yes, there was no way at all.
So we ended up just, you know.
Boot Barn?
Yeah.
$87.82 on credit one.
I'm for fucking Boot Barn.
Is this one of those things you see on your friends?
You got a pair of boots?
So not that.
I do get work shirts from there.
They have to be fire resistant.
We do a lot of welding and torch in there.
He bought the shirt that he's wearing from Boot Barn.
That is not fire.
resist. Is that what this was?
No, that one was two workshists.
What is wrong with you, first of all, because I know for a fact you had work shirts.
There's no way you did not have work shirts.
Yeah, that's a cope- fucking cope argument if I've ever heard one.
Cope excuse.
Credit one is bad for credit building regardless, like not for the credit building part,
but because you have to pay fees every month anyway.
You've paid $44.32 in fees on this card alone this year.
than total interest, $97.96.
This year!
And you're getting boobar, not paying it off.
Borderline almost maxed out.
Made a minimum fee payment of $49.
But then guess what?
The balance is now higher because of interest and fees and purchases.
You're going to be in debt forever.
Buddy, this takes four years to pay off.
And it's less than $1,000.
It takes four years to pay off.
That is what you're dragging her through.
So you're not getting married for at least four years.
Great.
Oh my, my, it's the second card out one.
What's going on with this card?
So on that one they had
It was on Credit Karma where it was like
Hey, you know, if you apply for this card
And if you don't
Are you listening to Credit Karma so much?
I don't know.
I mean
Why do you listen to literally everyone about everything
Except for her?
No, literally.
That's what she says all the time.
I could tell somebody or I could tell him
Hey, this guy's blue
And he's like, no, it's not.
And then he comes back and he's like,
So and so from work said, this guy is blue today.
And I'm like, real shit.
Why are you with him?
Because I wouldn't be for more.
than a half a day.
She loves me.
Why?
I think underneath all of the shitty finance decisions that I've had, there's a great guy in there.
Mm-hmm.
I would like to say the good outweighs the bad, but like this financial thing, like he thought,
I think he thinks that I was kidding about him getting his shit together, but I was not.
So that's why I signed him up for the show.
I know.
That's why we pulled our little exercise on him.
Listen, and the fact that she has already called out before.
forward this conversation that you listen to everyone except for her, and then all of a sudden
I see it and called it out independently, that is not a good sign. There should be a wake-up call.
That's where I'm hoping that we end up heading towards, to be honest.
But if he stays in the mindset of, I'm a man, then this probably.
He's a little bitch. You can't even grill.
Actually, whenever I did grill, those hot dogs are amazing.
On a flat, on a black rock. You cooked it on a pan guy, a large pan.
And it wasn't even the actual Blackstone brand.
And also hot dogs come pre-cooked.
You are an infant.
So on this credit, one of least no purchases, but of course, $8.25 of fees.
$10.44 of interest.
Oh, it's borderline maxed out.
$30 minimum fee payment.
You owe $436.
$29.
$40 of interest this year so far.
And fees of $33 that are 28.24% interest rate.
And you sign up for every membership in the world.
You got Life 360.
so you can track each other's whereabouts.
You got two gym memberships,
and you don't even go to the gym, they say.
Car wash membership that you never even use.
What the fuck?
Oh, and then you have another car wash membership.
Dude, you'll get everything.
There's not a thing in this world you will not get.
But he lies about those as well.
He told me he canceled his gym memberships like three months ago.
His car wash membership like three months ago.
And he's like, oh, I need to do it.
I need to do it.
And I'm like, I thought you already did it.
Why don't you even lie about that?
What is the point?
There's no point?
Because he thinks I'm going to get mad.
And of course,
get mad, but I'm mad that you're lying.
I have an iPhone. He just switched recently
because one of his friends had a galaxy,
whatever the fuck. So he said,
what's your phone have? If you wouldn't have to pay for life
360, you'd have fine mine.
Oh.
I don't even fucking know, dude. What is this
ally? Is it ally credit card?
Yes. That's another way to see.
Credit card. Usually you see car loans
with them, but okay, ally card a card.
Oh, it's maxed out. Good.
$923.
She says you f-
That's funny
That's not funny
$14.88
Sense of interest accruing
this month so far
$27 minimum monthly payment
More boot bar and $107
Go in and getting some BS
Ross Stores Senior
Burrow
And more pooper $92
Fuck you, it's for work
That is an excuse
Beyond excuses to just go to boot barred
I like my pro stamps
man. They look pretty cool.
Huh?
They're called pearl snaps.
I mean, this one's kind of wrinkly, but...
They're called pearlies, because they have pearls for buttons.
They're pretty pricey, so, as you can see.
You look like a gay cowboy.
No, that's literally what I told him this morning.
Oh, man.
Definitely not the vibe I'm trying to go for it, but if you say so.
Let's take six years to pay off.
So six years tell marriage?
Plus they get four on the other credit card.
That's 10.
Hopefully I'll save by then.
I'm glad you can count.
No, but, um, yeah, that's really bad.
About a different TV on this credit card?
A different TV on this credit card.
Before the correct TV purchase.
How many TVs do we fucking need, dude?
What is wrong with you?
It is not funny.
It is not funny.
That one was for my office, so, um...
Office?
What a office do you...
What the fuck are you doing in your office, you little...
Office slash...
a game room.
Yeah, there it is.
That's the real word.
Your little goon cave.
You fucking jack off to
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I see you.
I want a fucking bottom barn for your shirts
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Well done.
Okay, Capital One.
This looks like it is paid off every month,
but it was only because it was like a $59 hours of purchases,
but it still is money that could be going towards other debt instead of this.
And it's going in and getting some bullshit from the gap.
from the gas station, going to the Takierra La Tapie Tee from Michigan.
So with that one, the plan was to just strictly use for gas purchases.
Well, the plan failed, you dumb.
And now I just have a bunch of, I'm addicted to zining.
I don't know if you know.
Well, no.
Yeah, that would be an addiction.
So I purchase, I don't know if you can see right there, $60 worth of.
Zins a week.
The Tachiera was Zins?
No, no, that's...
$60 a $1 a week!
So that...
3,100.
Dude, you're spending almost a
full month's worth of paychecks
on Zins a year.
Yeah, you're spending about
three weeks of pay
on Zins a year.
Three weeks that you're
doing of work is only to
fuel your Zins, to pay
for your Zins.
Can I say
I am.
No, you're an endless addict.
You're an endless addict.
There's nothing you don't get addicted to if you try it.
You need to, I have an addictive personality, so I know to keep myself away from things.
I don't drink because I know I would fall down that rabbit hole.
I don't do a fun little drug because I know I would fall down that rabbit hole.
I don't pop us in even though I'd be locked the fucking in because I know I would go down the rabbit hole, okay?
That's literally the only one thing.
And I know I have to personally, not that like it's necessarily bad or something like that.
I know I have to tell myself not the fucking goon off to something
because I know that my personality could fall down that rabbit hole if I did.
I have to keep myself away from stuff.
I don't gamble because I can fall down that rabbit hole.
You should know this.
It is clear as day with your past gambling, now this and everything you're doing.
You will fall down more if you accidentally stumble upon something.
And you have to keep yourself away.
You have to be self-reflective and more self-mature.
To be able to live a healthier life and keep you away from stuff.
And it isn't just impacting you anymore.
It impacts her too.
$60 a zins a week.
Thoughts on that, lady.
I think it's a waste.
And he started because one of his friends at work did it.
I mean, to be fair, it does help you lock in.
Just saying, yeah, until your threshold's met, then you only have to go up.
No, keep it in your fucking pocket.
You addicted, disgusting motherfucker.
Yeah, I want you to feel the withdrawal.
You disgust me.
So that restaurant,
La Tapatia is down the street from his work.
So I could pack him lunch and he will still go and spend it on food.
What is the wrong with you? Why?
You know, just sometimes I'm not craving the leftovers.
Sometimes as in every time?
And is there always leftovers?
There's always leftovers.
No, is the lunch that is packed always leftovers?
No.
No.
And you're going to what?
So he'll go to La Tapatia.
I've never even heard of La Tapatia.
Is that a chain?
It's a chain in San Antonio.
There's another Mexican restaurant he goes to, and it's kind of like a Mexican hooters on his lunch break.
A Mexican hooters.
Yeah.
And he'll go on his lunch break.
Okay, so they serve in lowriders.
They don't serve in low riders.
They're just in like, I guess, viny skirts or something like that.
Scandalous.
Okay, they do that at regular hooters, too.
Well, it makes it a Mexican hooters.
It's like a Mexican restaurant.
It's a Mexican restaurant.
He gets it's his pahitas, I guess.
It's like a white castle, but instead of the castle part, there's just a big wall at the top?
No, there's not.
They're just, and I guess, I don't know, hoochie suits or whatever.
I don't know.
With brown or skin?
I don't understand.
How's it a Mexican hooter?
Okay, okay, sure.
I don't get it.
I don't know what makes a Mexican hooters.
The fajitas are there, do?
The fajitas instead of wings.
Okay.
Yeah.
That would make sense.
Okay. Okay. So they hope that you see tits on your way to having diarrhea.
Yeah. Yes. Understood. Gotcha.
30% interest on here.
Oh, you were lying about the amount of Zins you were taking from her.
They're saying. Or at least the amount that you're spending on it. Is that right?
You didn't know it was that much a week?
Yeah. He was misleading to a different number.
Yeah. I thought he was maybe doing like.
Why even just say that? Be open about your struggles.
if you have a struggle.
Like a puck or two, like a week and he's doing like a puck or two a day or something like that.
The fuck.
What's the wrong with you?
Yeah.
And it's very like, I can quit when I want.
I can quit when I want.
So why don't you want to, though?
It just helps me looking at work.
You know?
Yeah, but you can.
Yeah, it does.
But buddy, your threshold's here, you could have that not as sufficient, but with like coffee or like a zero calorie energy drink or something.
He's also addicted to coffee.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, that's okay. Most of us are. I have a coffee right here. If I don't have it, I have a headache and I'm tired. Yeah, that's okay. I mean, how many milligrams of caffeine are you drinking today? Is it more than 400? The daily recommended cap?
It used to. I've come back. I've come back on it. But you replace it with Zins. Yeah, which isn't, you know, which isn't healthy.
Okay, indigo. What's going on with this?
So that was actually, it's a credit card. On that one, the same thing, just miscellaneous.
purchases on that one.
Okay, $40 minimum of the payment.
Balance of...
It looks like this is...
No, it's not paid up every month.
No interest is charging.
Fees to charging?
It's a monthly fee, carder protection fee.
For... It's so ridiculous.
You're a moron.
Five months to pay this off.
That's how low the balance is, yet you still won't.
$171.44.
What is wrong with you?
35% interest for some of it, 24 for the rest.
ridiculous. $126 of fees this year so far.
On this card alone, meaning you likely had a missed payment because that doesn't add up to
$122. If this is your monthly fee of $5 times the
seven months we had, that's $35. You've had $126 to
fees this year so far. You've had late payments.
There's no way you haven't.
I believe I have. Remember when you said he literally said
I've never been late on a payment before.
What the fuck are you talking about? You lying piece of
you lying piece of shit.
No?
I guess I did have.
I mean, obviously, right, the facts are showing that I've had two late payments.
The facts are showing that you just two?
Maybe.
May the fuck be.
I don't know, but you're a liar and I can't trust anything you're fucking sane.
Milestone, what's up with this?
It looks like the same fucking card, honestly.
Yeah, they are.
They're, I guess, backed by the same bank.
Great.
Well, this one is $300.
$153.90. Minimum with the payment of 40. Purchases of zero, but monthly fees, monthly interest, $10. That fee. Oh, yep, about two to three lay payments on this one this year so far as well. And she doesn't even know. What a joke. You should be disgusted. Good fucking luck on the way home, buddy. Because I'm borderline giving up at this point. Affirm. Let's have an affirm tool over. What is wrong with you, man?
$137.
For what?
Cove Smart?
What is Cove Smart?
That's the security system we got for the house.
Yes, because I'm sure people are just breaking into all's homes, left and right.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I'm going to say it's like a $25 minimum monthly probably.
Fucking stupid.
Here's a mortgage.
Now, you guys are on this and you split it, right?
Yes.
Rate 4.65.
When did you guys get this?
Two months ago?
We moved in May 6.
How'd you guys get such a good rate?
I have good credit.
Yeah, but for good credit, this is still lower than you'd normally get.
First time homebuyers.
I am bonnet by myself also.
$188,199.
Oh, he's not on it.
He's not on the mortgage.
Oh.
Yeah, I was not able to.
That's okay.
I feel much more safe about this then.
Good, because, fuck you.
$1,416.51.
So I am okay with this.
You didn't correct me when I said you guys,
on the mortgage together before.
No. Minimum monthly payment of $1,0.14.
and he provides, what, 40% or something?
Right now. So right now, he gives 50% because we make about the same.
Well, you make a little more.
Well, actually, I have heard before taxes.
I have your after taxes.
So maybe not.
He had probably brought your rate up.
We actually couldn't get it with him.
Yeah, it was 10 or 15 credit points.
Now you have $430 to just spend on Home Depot and that's your new balance.
So that one's also in my name
And we're going to do that in half too
He applied and got to
Denied
$29 minimum month
What the fuck dude
This keeps going
This keeps going
And what are we buying at Home Depot so much
And why did you even need your credit card
Why didn't you have cash
If you had to open one why
I didn't want him to have to owe me
Because I could have paid it out without right cash
Because you don't trust him to pay you back
I do
And why didn't you want him to have to owe you
Because he still does to pay for half the credit card
Yeah
So it's the same thing.
That doesn't make sense.
I think for that one, well, we just ended up getting, I believe, just long care tools.
It was a lawnmower, weed eater.
And we also.
Oh, 33,882 dollars to student loans.
Yes.
For your what degree?
No degree.
Right.
I believe I have like 122 credit hours and no degree.
How long were you in school?
It started in 2013 when I graduated.
So I was in school up in.
until 2018, so it's like six, seven years and no degree on that.
What the fuck are you with?
Why are you accepting this?
You want him to be the father of your children?
I don't know.
I don't get it.
Listen, you're on an income-based repayment, which honestly, you don't even deserve.
You make good money.
You should be forced to pay at least $350 to what your minimum monthly payment should be
on a 10-year standard plan.
Yeah.
Like, fuck you.
You do not deserve this.
You are not someone that needs an income-driven plan.
All the money that should be going to this
that we have lent you as the public,
you are spending on bullshit
and we're allowing you to do that
and it's not acceptable and disgusting.
This is so fucking stupid.
You had a late payment on your student loans.
Yeah, honestly, that one, I didn't even know about it.
I think it might have been before the plan that I had set up.
Oh, fuck, man, I don't know.
I this is I this is I don't this isn't a budget problem this is just his behavior this isn't a budget problem
this is a he's degenerate and he embraces it and he thinks it's funny
a thousand hours in this checking account that's halfway decent moving money some back and forth
okay yeah nothing crazy was happening there okay and then his spending account
$358
So it's an Apple bill
Cash app
Cash app
Is that sending money to her?
Yeah, that's sending money
To her for the bills
Sometimes
Guys have a checking account
Join you don't just transfer in?
He was having trouble linking
The PNC to the
I'm so done with you
Winning got some
Finsins
Cash app
Cash app
Brevity
Terriaki
Liquor
Blois Floresloor
Oh it's just all bullshit spending
It's all
bullshit spending
Oh, that's all moronic.
Lids locker room.
Outslids, max.com
Oh, cash-hap,
cash-up,
bully make, Amazon,
city-based cinema,
Amazon, Spotify,
Takarra la Capitin me.
BJ's restaurant,
Brevity 6,
boot arm, boot barn, bottom barm,
chick-fil-A, Dutch bros,
Takia de la tapita me,
Ausin, Kassim,
Cash App, Appal Bill, Subway,
Cash App,
Overnight's Outs, Overnight's Ope.
what the fuck is wrong with you, buddy?
They're pretty good.
They're good.
Spabletics, Dutch bros.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
This is,
I'm not making a budget for you.
Because this isn't a budget problem.
And I know some get upset when I don't make a budget.
But this isn't a budget problem.
It's as simple as that.
You could budget this.
I know for a fact, with your income
and your minimum payments, you could budget it.
It's a little tight,
but I'm guessing you have about $1,000 left over.
Maybe $500.
This isn't a budget.
watch your problem plus you guys are combined so it's weird and confusing anyway this is you
having an addictive personality not willing to address it and not willing to hold yourself back you
need fucking therapy and you need to work on your cop spending and your inability to say no you need
to grow the up stop being a little boy and you need to respect your partner and actually
focus on not hiding and cheating behind her back and stand up like a fucking man for the first time in
your life. What a joke. Hammer Financial score? Join us in the post show. I know there's always more,
especially with a couple. Sick, it's so dumb. Just subscribe to Hammer Oly. Link below. Join us for an
extra 20 minutes. Not fucking done. Pull out your phone right now. Open it. She doesn't even trust
you to give you that. How long has he been lying to you? I'm going to assume the whole time we've been
together. That's insane. Who the fuck would marry someone that
endlessly goes behind her back and cheats.
I hate him so much.
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