Financial Audit - Pampered Princess Thinks Poverty Is Easy | Financial Audit

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:48 I have grown up very used to a certain kind of lifestyle. I'm spoiled. Everyone I was seeing was on social media and was traveling. I thought we kind of all understood. That on Instagram, when we look at Instagram, we know Instagram's not real life. My hair, my nails, all of those things. They all are a part of a huge part of my identity. It's not survival.
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Starting point is 00:01:53 I'm from Charleston, South Carolina, and this is Financial Audit. Thanks for coming to Austin. What do you do for living in in Charleston? I am a restaurant manager out there. Cool. What kind of restaurant you managing? It's a resort restaurant, so all kinds of resort guests. Charleston, yeah, it is a touristy type town.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I love it. It's definitely one of my favorite cities for sure that I've been to. How much you make and being a restaurant manager? So I actually just switched jobs. So I weren't. To restaurant manager? No, so I was a restaurant manager at one restaurant, and I just moved restaurants. So prior to this new job, I haven't gotten payroll from it yet.
Starting point is 00:02:31 However, I was... Well, you should know your pay. You accepted the job. I did, but I haven't gotten it. But you should know your pay. You accepted the job. Previously, it was 1553. Yeah, but is it the same pay?
Starting point is 00:02:42 No. So I did get a raise. So what? Previous doesn't matter. So now... What's the offer that you accepted? So the offer now is on a biweekly basis, 23. 2300. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:55 That's the salary? Yes, so it's 60. Is this salary or is it? It's 60,000. 60,000 a year. Yes. I was making 52 prior to when I started this new job. Okay, so 60,000 a year.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I think, call it after, you know, everything that's called 45 net, maybe. Mm-hmm. Just about. So I'm thinking about $3,750 a month. Net. Does that sound about right? Yes. Prior to any kind of 401K contributions, that would be correct.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Uh-huh. Okay. Good. Now, Charleston, I mean, South Carolina is not one of the more expensive states in the country. Charleston, I actually don't really know for sure. How you doing? 37. Well, I mean, you haven't had that amount hit yet, but how you doing there?
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm okay. I live with two roommates. It's the only way that I can kind of offset the cost, the cost of living out there is. Is rent brutally expensive in Charleston? Yeah, for the most part. It's not fun. Not fun? No.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Well, it's not fun. What are you struggling with? It's just expensive to live anywhere without having any kind of roommate. Anywhere? I mean, that's not 100% true. And you can budget in, I mean, even at the max, I wouldn't want you to push to 40% net. But I mean, you could as long as you're budgeting everything properly. The keyword, the $1,500.
Starting point is 00:04:19 The keyword there is property. Well, obviously. But saying that no one can do, it's a lot. I mean, that's not true. It's just hard. Okay. Well, I mean, what's the hard part to you? You just don't want to put.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Or? No, it's not that I don't want to budget. I have grown up very used to a certain kind of lifestyle. And it's... What's the lifestyle? What? Do you... Okay, I could see spoiled white girl. I could see. I could see that. Was that your past spoiled white girl? Yeah. Yeah. Kind of. I'm the youngest in my family. So I am, I'm the baby. I'm very much just like family is always... I'm the baby. Well, you're 25. I mean, you're not a baby. I'm the of the family. If that's where your worldviews at, though, we're already starting on the wrong foot when you go into adulthood.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I mean, okay, how would you say that it is impacting you if that's such a big part of your everything? I grew up just very much. I never really had to think about money or worry about money growing up. Good. You're a child. I would hope not.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Going into adulthood, I didn't. Why? Listen, it's rare. for parents to do a whole budgeting trick with their kids or like taking taxes or making them budget from their allowance. I mean, most of us grow up without having to know anything about money unless the household's in really bad financial situations and then you kind of start seeing that. But if you're doing well, I mean, yeah, you're a child.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I don't think they're sitting you down for the budget conversations. No, they didn't really, not until. No, I'm saying no one does. So I don't know if we can hold on to that for destroying. our 20s. I honestly like it was I just never really thought about it when I was because I lived with my parents until I was 23 years old. Why? I lived with them all through college. It was just the easiest because I went to college in Chicago. My parents, I'm from Chicago originally. I've lived in South Carolina almost two years now. Oh, you moved. I did. I did. I do like Charleston,
Starting point is 00:06:26 but that doesn't seem like the place we moved to from. anywhere. Why? Um, I had a, uh, I just went through a really bad breakup back in 20, 23, like early 2023. So breakup equals Charleston. So, I haven't heard that equation before personally. Really? Breakup equals Charleston?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Exactly. I like that. No, I haven't. So, broken up with, I've broken up with as well. And you didn't give to Charleston? Neither of which have ended up to Charleston. No. equation. Okay. So I moved to Charleston about a year after that breakup happened. I
Starting point is 00:07:05 wanted to get out of Chicago. I wanted to move out of my parents' house. I wanted to kind of live on my own. I had a friend. You don't have to move cross country though in order to live on your own. I understand wanting to leave the city you've been born and raised in. That's fine. Part of it. Especially wanting to escape the winter and gray skies. I get it. I've done it. Part of it was wanting to escape like the seasonal depression that Chicago had. Another part of it It is, it's cheaper to live in Charleston than it is Chicago. Charleston's like one of the cheapest major cities in the country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Charleston's even cheaper than that. Then I don't know how the fuck you're struggling on your income. I make poor spending choices, Caleb. Well, no shit. Everyone does. Obviously, that would be the reason. And you can fix that reason. And you've been in Charleston for three years.
Starting point is 00:07:49 A little under two. Okay, two years. That's a decent amount of time to correct behavior. I understand. Okay, move out for the first time. Move to a new city. maybe you go crazy for three to six months. Okay, fine, let's call it that.
Starting point is 00:08:02 But two years, come on. Yeah, we went crazy for about a year. Okay, well, that leads a year of non-caus. What's the issue? I spend too much in categories that I have no business spending in. But over the last year of the not going crazy year, wouldn't be a thing anymore. I guess longer than a year I've gone. Did you live rent-free with the parents throughout college?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yes, I did. Okay. What's going on today, though? What are we talking about? My biggest issue right now is I spend money traveling. I spend money on... But I thought our big intent was to move out to get independence. Yamava Resort and Casino at San Manuel is California's number one entertainment destination for today's superstars.
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Starting point is 00:09:15 taste of what it's like to live outside of the house and then travel a lot more. I mean, potentially. Yeah, I just. Well, I don't know why you have to move out and do the whole travel to world at the same time, like move out across country plus travel. I wanted to live independently. I wanted to do the things that I wanted to do, and I wanted to not look at my money and my financial statements,
Starting point is 00:09:37 and I just, I'd never really had to be an adult prior to any of this, so I just decided, you know, I'm just going to live my life. Well, yeah, you got hyper-enabled. I had a really bad mental, like, idea of money in the sense that... What was your idea? I was just kind of like, well, you know what? Everyone's in credit card debt that's my age. Wrong again, idiot.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Everyone I was seeing was on social media and was traveling and well yeah and doing all these things and but I thought we've okay maybe the rest of the world is just but I considered myself pretty as well but I thought we kind of all understood that on Instagram when we look at Instagram we know Instagram's not real life I thought we all kind of accepted that a few years ago are we still broken it's hard it's hard to see everything on, I've deleted social media apps off my phone multiple times just to try. That doesn't make you travel. You can, I see things all the time and I'm like, hope that person's either in debt or they're just posting the absolute highlights or their parents are paying for it and that's not in real life. Yeah, I've had to delete social media off my phone multiple times for a lot of different reasons, but one of that was that it was causing, it was a direct correlation to me
Starting point is 00:10:51 wanting to spend money that I didn't have. You can want to spend money and say, no, you can have discipline. I need you to live in a healthy balance where you're able to see things, including things you walk by on a storefront and be able to tell yourself, no. Are you still babyed by your parents today? Um, no, kind of. No, kind of. I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 00:11:12 What does that look like? Because, I mean, that is a big concern. I mean, listen, you do have responsibility and a lot of things you do, but being enabled all throughout until 23 is obviously going to put you at a disadvantage. Now, you could have learned adult skills, adult responsibilities if you put a little bit of effort into it. I'm not fully excusing you there. But if they're still babying you from there, they're like, what are the fuck are you ever going to grow up? Are you ever going to be a living on your own? If you're the youngest, that means your parents are also older. Which means they're
Starting point is 00:11:42 not going to be here forever. No one's will be. But especially if you're the youngest. Like, what are you going to do without them? I don't know. I need to set you up for success. I can't even think about what I'm going to do without them. Well, that's because you haven't actually done anything yourself. So what's the baby and they're doing today? Um, so as of right now, I don't pay for my car or
Starting point is 00:12:08 my phone. Then? I didn't want to look at it. I wanted to ignore it. I wanted to live in this ignorance is bliss mindset. I didn't want to think about it. No, no, no. No, no. If you know it exists, it's not ignorance is bliss then. I didn't want to look at any of the statements.
Starting point is 00:12:27 That's negligence. Then negligence is bliss. No, that's horrible. that's you actively choosing not to do something that you know exists. That's not ignorance. Ignorance is you just don't know. I mean, why do I have a note here if you have the car taken care of why you're so annoyed that you have to take like 30 minutes out of your time to go get it checked? Like you're that much of a spoiled brat that you're not even willing to go get the car check
Starting point is 00:12:55 that they'll likely pay for. To 30 minutes of your precious little Charleston time. I, uh, getting a car. checked is longer than 30 minutes. Well, it depends. I don't know what it's got. What's it getting checked for? So I ran over an alligator.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Okay, but why do you need to get it checked? Sounds like you won the battle. My parents want me to get the undercarriage of my car checked. And yes, I haven't put it. Is there something, is there a light that is on? No, they just want to make sure that the car is okay. Well, they're paying for. Shouldn't you go do that and do any kind of personal responsibility whatsoever?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Oftentimes you can drop off Uber home, Uber, wherever you want to go. Yeah. And then go back. What? That still takes it. 30 minutes of your time. Yeah. Come on, you're a spoiled princess.
Starting point is 00:13:37 No, you're still getting enabled, so I'm not happy with it. But I could accept it. However, they're paying for this, and yet you're not even willing to go take a look at the, take 30 minutes out of your day to get the car looked at. That's gross. That's gross. What's wrong with you? Why?
Starting point is 00:13:51 I would have to drive two hours to and from my job for a long time. So trying to get a rental car. I worked very far away from my home. And so... Worked? Worked up. My old job. Okay, you don't.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You got this. job a second ago. Yeah, about a week ago. Well, there you go. You had a whole week to go put in a car. You just drive up. I mean, still, do it on a fucking day that you don't work. I know there's days you don't work.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I would be a moron. They're just looking at your undercarriage. They're not even, they're not even, is that what it's called undercarriage? I think, I think it's the undercarriage. Or is that what they call like vagina and but holes. I think it's the undercarriage of your car. Because the whole like part that you sit in is the carriage. I think.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I don't know. But even still, by the way, it was a 45 minute away. job fact-checked. You tried to over-exaggerated. An hour two and an hour back. Drop it off somewhere near your job. Have them check it out while you're at work. Go there early. Shut up. What are you talking about? There's not a whole lot of places near my job. I worked on a... Dude. Dude. Dude. Also, I know you don't work every single day. You fuck no one does. No, I don't. I had just started this new job. I am also a grad student. So I am still in school right now. Gradually studenting what?
Starting point is 00:15:04 I am getting my master's degree in elementary education. For fucking why? That's not even close to what you're doing. What kind of time and money is this worth? Masters in elementary? Do you need a master's in South Carolina? Is it one of those weird states? No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You don't need a master's degree in South Carolina for it. But I need to get my, I want to be a teacher. So I need to get my teaching licensure and a master's program would allow for me to get my licensure, take the course with that I need to. Dude, how much you're spending on this? It's about $8,000 a year in tuition. That's not crazy. Why is it so cheap, actually?
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's all online asynchronous. I go through... That's what we want from our teachers. Okay. It's the COVID school experience. 4,325 per six-month term. Okay, but even still, I mean, is that why you accept your parents wanting? Like, are they ever going to cut you off?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Like, what... So I've talked to my parents a little bit about taking on the car payment. Why are you taking it on? Well, what's the conversation? You reach out to them saying, yes, Please let me spend my money. I actually, I actually reached out to them and I was like, hey, I kind of want to start building my independence from you.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They want me to get myself out of debt before I, out of any kind of bad debt before I take on. No, the car is not included in that. They want you to get out of debt. If that's your big goal, how much debt do you have? About $15,000 in bad debt. How much? About $15,000 in bad debt. How much debt do you have? Debt?
Starting point is 00:16:27 $70. 65 to $70. $61,900, $0.51.5. bad debt, which I mean, the student loans are stacking up, don't get me wrong, especially on an edg. I mean, I don't think South Carolina teachers are known for being paid the highest, especially in elementary school. No, there's, their schedule. There's salary schedule's not great. You know, the student loans are approaching 45, and that'll be higher if you are barring for
Starting point is 00:16:48 now. Bad debt, that's approaching 18,000. So. How many hours a week are you working? How many hours go to the school? 20 to 25 hours a week on school during my regular school time. and then if I'm ever doing exams, clinical hours or anything, it bumps up to 30 to 40 hours a week for school. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:09 How are you balancing all this? Are you? By a thread. It's challenging. And I think I have allowed myself to kind of just be like, well, I'm in school. I'm working all these hours. So it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I don't pay for the car. I can just do it whenever I get the time. And then the time comes and I'm exhausted. and so I don't do it, but my mom is getting on me about wanting to make sure that I get the car taken in. So have you ever budgeted day in your life? I have. I have. And I've seen the way that you budget all of your stuff and-
Starting point is 00:17:47 What a little too aggressive for you? No, you're, no, your T-P fund is bullshit. It is. Okay. The way that you budget all of like that extra stuff, I, like, when I do know that you put a budget together at the end of all of your shows and And I need to know that like when you do budgeting for me, it's going... Well, it might not cover a blowout if you're trying to get out of... I did this myself.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I did this myself. But still, I mean... Don't insult my skill. I don't know your skill. I have a lot. The thing about like, it's expensive to have upkeep. You are not a girl. You don't understand.
Starting point is 00:18:22 You don't, no, no. You understand the budget we make is a minimum survival budget. You are wearing makeup right now. That's lovely. We support it. If you want to do that, that's great. It is not in a minimum survival. Budget.
Starting point is 00:18:34 This is for survival for living. Like you will die. Like we're talking roof overhead, food on the tables, utilities paid for. This is a survival budget we're making. But the thing is. Tampons can fit in there quite easily. And the budget that we make for the T.P. Many times people have money left over in their TEP fund and they can use it for fun.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Well, the whole thing, the whole thing for me, like my hair, my nails, the way that I look. All of that. Nails is not survival. It is for me. It's no, it's literally not. You will not die. I mean, I know you've been spoiled your entire life. You will not die.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's all a part of my identity. And that is such a... Spoiled. If that's the identity we want to put on, you're doing it very well. I don't know if that's what you want to put on. No, my, the way that I look, my hair, my nails, all of those things, they all are a part of a huge part of my identity. I agree. I want you to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's not survival. Maybe for you. No, it's not survival for anything. Anyone is what I want you to do. It's what you can easily fit into your 30% where you can spend 30% on fund. It isn't survival. Now having an emergency fund is an emergency.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I've heard you say that before. Uh-huh. My emergency is when my nails don't get done. I mean, that's stupid. How can you even possibly say that? I mean, that's just like, that doesn't make any sense. That doesn't impact you. It does.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Okay. No, no, it doesn't impact you on a survival standpoint is what I'm trying to say. It impacts me and my, ability to feel like myself, to go through the rest of my life. If everything, if the way that I look, the way that I feel is off, my mental is off, my physical is off and then... I mean, I'll put in a gym subscription. I do have a gym subscription. Are you using it? I am. I use that to do my weightlifting and then I run. I think that's more important to looks than nails.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Maybe in your eyes. We're all 20 pounds away from being sexy as f-I. I mean... Dude, nails can be pricey. They are pricey, yes. pay for my girl to get her nails done? So you understand. I have money. I can budget. I have a TP fund set aside and it fits in it. I'm not a spoiled brat.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I saved my money. I acted responsibly. At this point in your life, but you didn't always act responsibly. No, I didn't. But when I started to change, which people come on the show to change, which you said you did,
Starting point is 00:20:58 this is where you started acting responsibly. When I worked to get out of debt, when I worked to get an emergency fund, I wasn't blowing all my money on bullshit. Letter rewards along the way, absolutely, and we can bake those in and we can celebrate with them. That is fine. But the budget we make at the end is not a go-live
Starting point is 00:21:17 and have a shit ton of fun budget. It is a minimum survival, what you need to survive budget, and what can we do around there? When people have the wiggle room for fun spending, I put it in and you can put your nails in that thing. I don't know if you have that wiggle room or not. I don't know. I mean, the fact that your parents pay for some of your bills
Starting point is 00:21:33 already helps. but that money should probably be going to putting extra towards that anyway. Your hair is dyed. It's highlighted, right? I do. I do highlight my hair. It is, especially in the Charleston area. And in my opinion, it's worth it. Are you stupid or something?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Worth the dollar amount, maybe, but now when you don't have an emergency fund. Because what happens? Well, your parents will bail you out. That's why you don't understand. That's why you don't have a respect for the dollar. You don't have respect for an emergency fund. because no emergency will have ever popped up for you at this point. But you need to prepare yourself for when they're not there to bail you out.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Because that's when an emergency will actually be an emergency as an unpredictable cost you money you don't have. And then you'll lose a roof over your head. As essential as those things are. To me... A roof? Yes. Pretty essential.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I just said that it was. As essential as those things are. Uh-huh, which is a weird thing to say about keeping a roof over your head, but sorry, continue. I also find things like my hair, my nails, all of that stuff, to be essential for me. Not as essential as a root. There we go. They're in different categories, just like murders. Not every murder is the same. If you accidentally murder in an alligator, it is not the same as intentionally going out there and blowing an alligator's head off, okay? There are degrees of murder. I didn't murder the alligator. There are degrees of murder. There are degrees
Starting point is 00:22:56 of needs. I am talking about survival. All right, the alligator walked away from that accident. I left with a lot of emotional trauma. Good, you deserve it. That's not true. Nah. Emotional trauma for hitting an alligator. Yes. I felt so bad for hitting that alligator.
Starting point is 00:23:14 At least there wasn't a deer. It didn't totally total my windshield. Well, you don't know anything because you won't get your car checked out that they're paying for and they really want you to get checked out. I will take my car in to get checked out. I will take it. I don't know why you haven't. How long have they been asking?
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Starting point is 00:25:45 I hit the alligator. Spoiled brat, how long? I hit the alligator in August. What the f's wrong with you? You don't pay for it and they just want to make sure it's okay and that you're safe. What is wrong with you? Then you feel like you have to get the...
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Starting point is 00:27:36 I like to stand out. I got my undergrad and acting. You think that I want to fit in. Is your undergrad and acting? I did. What are you doing with that? You're doing nothing with it. I know that you got an art degree too, so you can't say shit about it.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Listen, what the f-f-what a waste of a degree? You're doing nothing with it. You're working in retail. Service. I was going to say F&B. service, sorry. I don't find it to be a waste of a degree. Now, you're not using it.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And you have $44,698 to student loans. Yeah. Value of what my degree cost versus value of what my degree is giving me, as I will tell you, it's in the negatives, 100%. Well, no shit, so it's not worth it. I found my degree to be worth it. How do you know what's good for me? That's my opinion!
Starting point is 00:28:25 Mathematically is not. What is the worth it? You had fun. That's great. You can have fun without $45,000. I learned a lot. I learned. By acting.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I learned they're all... What were you trying to do? I wanted to be an actor. I wanted to be in the film and television world. I went to Columbia College, Chicago. Okay. Yeah. So I wanted to be in the film and television world.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Did you do anything? I did. I did some work. You're on this podcast now, but you're going to be a teacher. Yeah. I did some work in the industry. However, I was in my undergrad when COVID hit and everything kind of went to hell in a handbasket. Yeah, but that ended relatively quickly.
Starting point is 00:29:05 But the industry changed so much that I didn't want to, I didn't really want to continue working in that industry, but I wanted to finish out my degree. And that's why I'm going in to get my master's degree now because I want to start an actual career. Because I don't want to be an F&B for the rest of my life. F&B? Food and Bev. Oh. Restaurants. I thought it was a fat bitch, but I got you.
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Starting point is 00:30:31 App. All those links in the description below. Let's jump into these finances, shall we? You have a good haircut in that photo.
Starting point is 00:30:39 That's the same haircut. It looks different in that one. I may have laid a little different than day. Maybe it's just because you're smiling
Starting point is 00:30:45 so you don't look as dead inside in the photo as you do. Why? Am I not like joyful? And just... Joyful?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah. Smile. Let's see. I am. Smiling on the inside? South Carolina Federal Credit Union. What do you have
Starting point is 00:31:00 going on with them? Personal loan. Why? I... At 25 with your parents supporting you, I am confused. Why would you have a personal loan? I did a debt consolidation. Why?
Starting point is 00:31:08 With your parents supporting you? Why? My... So basically, I was paying the minimum payments on my credit cards and I called my dad once and I kind of was like, hey, what should I do?
Starting point is 00:31:24 I was living alone for the first time trying to figure out how to pay my bills. My minimum payments felt like a lot at the moment. and he was like, well, why don't you consider, is there, my dad? Okay, and they weren't going to bail you on? Not that I want them to, but. No, they didn't want. It sounded like they would be.
Starting point is 00:31:39 But when I called my dad, I was, I lied to him about where I was financially. And I was like, yeah, totally. I have 100% fixed my behavior and change what I was doing. And he was like, well, why don't you just go get a debt consolidation? Why don't you just go to a credit union and see what they have to offer you? And he said it would just be an end-all fix-all. Suggested? What was your thought?
Starting point is 00:32:00 you went into it and got it. I did. So I went to a credit union that was near me and I walked in and I was like, hey, this is the amount of debt that I have. These are the credit cards. And the interest rate that they were going to, that they put my loan at was significantly lower than what my credit card interest rate was. And so it seemed like a good idea at the time, but I didn't change any of my.
Starting point is 00:32:24 What happened? I have a certain standard of living that I wasn't willing to give up yet. What's that? You have roommates. What's your standard of living? You're not willing to give up. Again, just coming from spoiled background.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Just shopping, taking care of myself. What's taking care of yourself? Getting my hair done, getting my nails done. But even that with your income, if budgeted, if put, that wouldn't make or break you. You have to infinitely spend more than you make,
Starting point is 00:32:49 like a lot more. And I was. Was? Was. Okay, very good. How much did you spend last month? Oh, God. We know what comes in.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah. Well, like 27 on normal, three maybe, three two? 31. 31 comes in. What went out? Is that like on checking credit? Everything. One went out?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Well, it was spent. What's gone? I'm going to take a wild guess and say probably somewhere near 6,000. That's insane. $4,534. And 47 cents. If you said was, how can you possibly say six? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I just can't. That's not was? I assumed. I was like, I wanted to. Because that was. though, that still is. I thought that it was worse than it than it actually is apparently.
Starting point is 00:33:34 You're not understanding what I'm saying. When you say was, it makes it sound like you were bad, but you still are. If you're saying 6,000, I mean, you still are. If, like, 31 comes in and you spend 40, what was it, 45? Yeah, 45.
Starting point is 00:33:46 The reason I thought, the reason I thought it was 6,000 is because I knew that three paychecks hit on that statement that I sent you. So I figured it was somewhere in the ballpark of 1,500,000 more than I bring in. So it still not was, though. It still is.
Starting point is 00:34:01 There's no change. You're suggesting change. There's no change. There's no change. There's more awareness now at this moment in time. But you're doing nothing with the awareness. Isn't that worse in ignorance again? Going back to that?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yes. Yes. Yes. Then what are you saying? What I'm trying to say is looking through all of those statements, I had never really sat down and actually tracked what I was spent. Why? Because isn't that what's all necessary if you're going to say was and now is? I do it now. I track all of my spending now. I look at my statements now. And so I guess if you're
Starting point is 00:34:41 going to look at any kind of behavior change that did happen, I do that. I still have, I still struggle with impulse control when it comes to spending. I still struggle with impulse control when it comes to seeing what other people are doing and trying to. So what's the cope? How do you deal with that? How do I deal with overspending? How do you deal with that? If you see what other people are doing, what is the answer? Right. I mean, it was, it was just buying things and spending money that I didn't have. You keep saying was. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:35:09 It's buying things. How much did you spend going out to eat last month? 600, 700? Dude, it was 1,000, 26. What the fuck are you doing? Even now with your better income, that's still over a fourth. Well, you have debt. Well, Mommy and Damity are giving you all this money and paying your bills. While you're consolidating debt,
Starting point is 00:35:31 while you're a was and now is, you was now is you is you are spending over a thousand dollars over a fourth of your income I'm going out to eat was what are you talking about was there is no was there only is and still is and forever will be unless you actually look at what you're spending of which you won't do I do it now I didn't do it when I said and I know that over a like one month isn't enough to consider it a behavior change but this is that month this is that month so what the fuck are you talking about? There's not an indication of a behavior. No, there isn't. What are you talking about? Because, just because you know. I make, I make all my payments.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I pay all my bills. So. So we'll see about that. Every time someone has said that, oh, they basically have late payments, by the way. But either way, either way, pause, either way, pause. The thing is, you'd just be knowledgeable about, wow, I really would like to not be in debt. For a month is nothing. Because you still want. and did the same actions as before. If not, that's even worse. Because if you all of a sudden had that mindset and wanted to fix it but then didn't,
Starting point is 00:36:41 that is worse than again being in ignorance. That is what this conversation is about so far. You can't give yourself a W by all of a sudden knowing you're in debt and not wanting to be in debt, but not doing anything to fix it. That's not a win. Where's the win? That's not a win. I think.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I mean, I heard you have a boyfriend and your future is all dependent on you getting your shit together. Yeah. He had a nervous breakdown when talking about your finances to him. I did. Tell me about it. So he and I started dating earlier this year and we basically, we started talking about where our finances were.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And after a couple of days, he had, I told him that I had credit card debt and I never really told him how much. And then he kind of asked me, he was like, hey, seriously, like, where are you at in your debt? How quickly into your dating? Pretty quickly. I mean, I didn't want to, we both kind of are on the same page that we're ready to be with our person. Yeah. And so we kind of just wanted to make sure we aligned on certain stuff and finances, kids, all that. We wanted to make sure that we were on the same page. And he was like, how much credit card debt are you really in? Because he knew that my parents bailed me out of a lot of stuff. He knew that. He already knew that. He knew that previously. And he's like, hmm, what am I locked out? that.
Starting point is 00:38:06 He knew that my parents helped me financially, yes. I don't think he realized how much. And so when I told him... You don't want to be with a non-independent person, though, someone that can't manage themselves because that means all of a sudden he becomes the dependent. I have made that joke to him multiple times.
Starting point is 00:38:21 It's not really a joke. That's the problem. Well, what's the joke? That you're going to be dependent on him? We'll just go from spending... Uh-huh. So the nervous breakdown. What happened?
Starting point is 00:38:31 So I broke down to him and I was like... You call him. Daddy. That was a joke. Let me see what this man looks like. Let me see if he looks like a daddy. All right. That's him. He could be daddy. Okay. Go on. That's him. So I broke down crying and I finally admitted to him what I'd been lying to myself about, what I've been lying to my parents about, which is just where I was debt-wise. I was lying to my, I didn't want to think about the fact that I was in debt because I didn't want to change my behavior.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I just wanted to keep spending money and being a spoiled little brat. I mean, I'm sorry. Hey, I mean, with your spending, you still are. If this conversation was months and months and months and months ago, you didn't change. No, I didn't. I wanted to keep spending money. And so I just ignored it. And I just let it keep going.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And I told... Okay, call them. Right now? Mm-hmm. All righty. Because this personal loans at $2,869. $0.12. What's the minimum fee payment?
Starting point is 00:39:37 175. And what's the interest rate? 12.5? 13.5. 13.5. Minimity payment, 152.45. Oh, I pay 175 every month. Well, I don't understand the point of a little more on a few different accounts
Starting point is 00:39:49 instead of actually focusing on something about column. Listen, if we have, if we consolidated this almost 14% loan, build all our debt back up because we didn't change your behavior, then you haven't done anything. What the fuck are we doing? Editor's bleep his name. If he is. My guy, I just have.
Starting point is 00:40:09 to talk to you for a second. Okay. The thing is, your girlfriend here, who we are calling Iris, in your anonymous, you guys had a pretty rough conversation months and months and months ago, how she finally accepted what she has been hiding to herself, hiding from you, hiding from her parents, about how much debt she was in so that she could finally confront it, right? Isn't that how that conversation went? She wanted to finally expose it so she could fix it.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yes. And she wanted to fix it for you because you guys are like, you know, we are ready to settle down. We should be forever people, right? Yes. Dude. God. But this isn't even close to what has happened after that. All she did was acknowledge how much she did she had.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Then she didn't change her life. How much do you think she spent going out to eat alone last month? Just going out to eat. We'll bring in 3,100. Just going out to eat. I have no idea. What would you guess? gut.
Starting point is 00:41:12 500. So that would, you know, changing her behavior. Changing her behavior, be cutting back a little, learning how to budget acting like a f*** an adult and having conversations about her money if she wanted to settle down and actually be with you. Well, she spent $1,000 on going out to eat last month, over $1,000 going out to eat. She spent a third of her previous income before her new job going out to eat last month. Month after having, months after having conversations about how she wants to fix
Starting point is 00:41:41 things. Yeah, I have no idea about that. I have not been that much into her personal finances. I just know that she has been putting together budgets. I didn't, wasn't sure if she'd been following them. No, she probably right, because this is
Starting point is 00:41:57 what she does. This is what she has tried to form as a W in this entire conversation. Is that because she thinks about her debt because, oh, I acknowledge that my debt exists. She comes out as the win. That's it. It's like thinking, oh, I'm fat. I should go on a diet and then that's the win.
Starting point is 00:42:13 No, you actually have to do the thing. She doesn't do the thing. She never does any action. She does the thought. She does the thought of the budget. She makes a budget. Then she doesn't follow it. And this is with, I'm assuming you pay for a lot of extra dinners on top of this, right?
Starting point is 00:42:28 I wouldn't say a lot. But yeah, we go out once in a while. Well, there you go. And then she blows $1,000 going out to eat. Miscellaneous bullshit. This could be random things. This could be stopping in getting in an energy drink. This could be, who knows, it could be a video game.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I don't see here as a gamer, but who knows? It could be that kind of stuff. Misalini is bullshit. That is an additional $1,200. So minimum spent, before we even go into other categories and see what might be bullshit, minimum spent, minimum spent on bullshit. Minimum spent on bullshit last month alone is $2,200. She brings in before her most recent job, but at the time of this job, $3,100.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Bullshit, $2,200. minimum minimum jeez is this not upsetting because you guys had this awakening conversation months ago months ago no it is upsetting um yeah no i didn't know i had no idea that um she wasn't following the budgets
Starting point is 00:43:27 she'd just been talking about making them all well mommy and daddy comes in and pays for the bills you know when she doesn't fix this behavior and mommy and daddy all of a sudden become husband and wife as a and you and her, you know, all of a sudden, you become the person that pays all her bills and all her mistakes and bails her out every second. You know that, right? This just gets transferred on to you.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah, that works. How does that make you feel? We haven't really talked about the whole being a parachute type thing because I know she has her parents for now, but it's frightening. Yeah. You guys have talked about being forever people. What would be required to change?
Starting point is 00:44:09 What would this be required to look like for you to even consider that? Because if I'm being completely honest right now, yeah, I keep dating her. She doesn't seem like a bad person. Horrible finances spoiled a little brat, absolutely. But what I say marry her? Not even close. I would say run. What would have to change?
Starting point is 00:44:28 What would this have to look like for you to nail down the relationship in more marriage way? I have to know that she's following the budgets that she's making. more than just thinking about it and actually putting in the action. What would you want those budgets to look like? I don't know. That's numbers are something that I definitely haven't thought of and not something that I can throw out willy-nilly right now. But I would definitely say, because I know this is something that's been stressing her out a lot lately too.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And obviously that's not good for a relationship as a whole. No? Yeah, I think it would be good for everybody. And yeah, I don't know. If she agrees, I don't know. definitely be happy to be more involved in things. But is it acceptable for, is it acceptable for one's partner
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Starting point is 00:46:13 It's unacceptable. All will not even have it to take care of her car bills and other bills. Because of mummy and daddy. Yeah. It's not my fault I'm loved. You're enabled. You're spoiled. I'm loved.
Starting point is 00:46:24 You're well-loved. You're well-loved. But they are not actually treating you with proper love. Love that will benefit you in the end. I'll call the parents in the post show, but I'll let the boyfriend go for now. You're trying to ruin my relationship, Caleb? No, I'm trying to fix it by you getting your shit together so that it's not transferred to him when you guys become married if he even allows marriage. I haven't.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And I want to get you guys to marriage. That's what you guys want to get to. But you're doing everything to go opposite of it. You're spending on bullshit minimum. What is it? About 75% of your income? It's insanity on bullshit. Well, have a nicer tone with my mom.
Starting point is 00:46:59 She's a very nice lady. No. Any other thoughts here, boyfriend? No, it's on my head. I'm glad she's having this conversation with someone. If you guys find it allowable, be her accountability partner. You need to hold her feet to the fire because right now this is beyond unacceptable. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:49:25 and actually act like an adult for the first time in your life. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Then you take out the personal loan and then you fuck it all up again? Who had I thought? Take out the personal loan. Rack up all the dead again. Uh-huh. And then last month alone, 2,200.
Starting point is 00:49:44 There's no minimum, minimum, minimum on bullshit. Minimum, minimum. Not even a question. No way. Fuck you. It's there. Look at the chart. You can read.
Starting point is 00:49:53 You went to theater school. I can read. Capital one. $5,5,576,000. Minimum monthly payment, 184. What is going on with this? Because that's an insanity of a balance. Insanity.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah. So that credit card I've had since I was 18 years old. and I genuinely don't remember the last time I didn't carry a balance on it. Yeah, that's what happens when you spend literally triple what you put towards it. You put the minimum payment towards it and then you spent $632, 11 cents, well, $128 and $34 cents of interest accrued. It is border, it is almost maxed out. It is accruing interest.
Starting point is 00:50:37 You can't pay it off to save your life. Yet you spend over $600 on it. Why possibly why the, the... Because there were things I wanted to do. and... More than marriage. It's a tough one. Oh, boyfriend, you should have heard that.
Starting point is 00:50:56 It's a tough one because it's hard to... Boyfriend, just to let you know, James Grill is much more important than you than your future. It was actually with him. Well, you still chose it. You spent the money. You're choosing that
Starting point is 00:51:09 because he is not getting married until you fix this shit. It's not. It's not more important. You don't fix this shit by spending $200 on James Grill. It's not more important than marriage to me. Yet you do it instead of actually fixing the thing that is going to allow you you guys to get married. That was suggested is more important to you through the behavior of it
Starting point is 00:51:28 being more important to you. It's just anything that I didn't have in my checking account that was over $50 I put on a credit card. Why? What's the logic? That was just my rule for- Your rule? That was just my like mental rule that I had. Like if I didn't have the money in my account and it was over $50, I just put it on a credit card and I didn't think about it. Okay. and the logic behind it is that helps you? It doesn't come out of my checking account, so it just didn't seem. Checking account.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So that's what matters. That's the number that. Credit cards don't matter. Then you're not a credit card person. Not even close. If you, if literally, if your logic is as long as it's not coming out on my checking account, if it's being added to a credit card, it's okay? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 That's what I thought. That was that. I mean, that's what I think. Thought to. Thought to. I was going to say because you, again, spent triple what you put towards it in terms of payment. Credit cards, it doesn't, it's not as quick. It's not as, I don't want to say real.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I mean, I guess it's not. It's not as real. It's not as quick coming out. Well, you're affecting your credit. Interest is accruing. It's fucking you. It is. How long does this take to pay off if you make minimum fee payments only and don't purchase of which you're incapable of?
Starting point is 00:52:42 19 years. 22 years. 22 years. And yet you still won't be married. How does that sound? Not great. Well, that's where you're literally headed. The credit cards were just what I was using.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I mean... Also, the lady who always pays her bills has had a late fee this year. Every fucking time, ladies and gentlemen. There's a late fee. Oh, every fucking time. What is wrong with people like you? No, I know I had a late fee on there in 2021, one time.
Starting point is 00:53:10 No, you had a late fee this year one time. Then I didn't know about that because I didn't see it. No shit. It's just so... interesting that those who are the most confident that they're never late are the ones that I know for a fact will have a late fee. I genuinely. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:53:28 I genuinely didn't know. I know. Because I know there was a time in 2021 that I didn't pay that that bid ones. Dude, I don't give a fuck about four years ago. It's 2025 and you've had a late fee this year. Does it say when? This year. Does it say when this year?
Starting point is 00:53:42 No, but it's year to date. Okay. What was the amount? 29. That's a late fee. 29. Listen, on here, wicks.com, James Grill, McDonald's. The Nugs, more important than you, boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:53:58 By the way, winning got some bullshit. Thrift Shore, smoke and vaping. Okay, so that is Delta 8 Gummies. I don't, I do not smoke, I do not vape. I used to. Do edible. I quit to you. years ago.
Starting point is 00:54:18 But I mean, oh, you just purchased that? No, no, no, no, no. Nicotine. I used to smoke cigarettes. But you're doing edibles. Well, because those specific gummies are legal in South Carolina and that's the legal.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Well, I don't know about Delta A specifically, but you know, listen, I was, um, I'm still okay with weed, but I was actually much more pro pro, pro, like a decade ago when studies were first getting started, we didn't really seem negative things. Now pretty much any study that comes out over the past five years or so shows that really it's it's not great it limits your absolute development all the way through like your entire 20s it increases your risk for many cancers there's much more dependency than people are willing to acknowledge it's not dependency as in like you get ambition comes in all shapes and sizes at first citizens bank we roll with your goals because we're built for what you're building fit for your ambition
Starting point is 00:55:12 for citizens bank alpha you're going to feel like horrible headaches or itches or or, you know, shakes or anything, but you will feel down for a while if you are on this on a daily basis. I'm not on it on a daily basis. Okay. It's just for a little fun here and there. It's every now and again.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I don't drink very often. So that's kind of my, I will, when I go out with my friends. Chili's, Spotify, Uber, McDonald's, CNBC. $25 for CNBC. What are you doing? I couldn't even tell you what that is. I can. It's CNBC. You know what? CNBC is? The news? Financial news? Dude, you have a subscription to CNBC. You don't even know it. What is it wrong with you? I'm sitting here. I'm trying to think. I'm like trying to rack my brain.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Uh-huh. Yeah, over $1,100 has gone to interest this year so far. Damn. On this card alone. So for example, of this year, an entire third of a month that you worked went to just paying the interest on this. By the end of the year, a half of a month that you will have worked this year only went to the interest on this card alone. I guess CNBC has stores in the airports like convenience things. Okay, okay, that makes more sense. A few newspapers maybe?
Starting point is 00:56:38 No, so that would have been, so this, I went back home to Chicago to see my family. That would have been at the airport. That's why I was- Bullsh, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Get on your phone. What am I getting? At the airport, dumbass? Sorry.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You don't need entertainment while you're there. From South Carolina to Chicago. I'm assuming. I'm assuming that was something. You're in pain for Spotify. I'm assuming that was like grabbing food at the airport. I'm assuming it was dumbass. I'm assuming that it was...
Starting point is 00:57:10 Also, you went to Chicago for back-to-back concerts, let's be honest. I did. So fuck off, family. I did go to see... I... I... Okay. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So my mom bought the tickets for us to go see this concert, and I decided that I was just going to make a trip out of it, because why not? And go for another concert. I did see another concert while I was there. I went to... We went to see a baseball game. I went to my... One of my friends is in a band.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I went and saw her gig. We went to the Renaissance Fair. We just made a whole, like, six-day-long trip out of it off of the fact that my mom got us tickets to go see. We went to go see the Goo Goo Goo Dolls. Half a month of your work just for this interest rate. And this weekend, you're going to go see Renee Rapp. I am. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I'm going, I drive to Atlanta on Friday. You can't afford dick. You can't afford anything. I already paid for it, so it. Yeah, you'll get food. you'll get gas, you'll get bullshit. Come on. But it's already paid for.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Merch, not everything. Feels like it is. But that's not how math works. Like, I mean, the, like, Verbo's paid for, the concert's paid for. Yes, I know, but not everything you're going to do well there
Starting point is 00:58:23 and not to get there, get back. Or a hotel, which you'll probably do. I won't get a hotel. We already have accommodations. That's paid for. How much did you spend? It was 2?
Starting point is 00:58:36 $200,000? $200,000? And that's more important than your boyfriend. No, it isn't. Okay, well, it clearly is through your behavior. This is at a 28.96% interest rate of death, of insanity, of stupid. Accommodations aren't free. You still spent money on that.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I assume Airbnb of Friends. Verbo. There you go. That's not free. No. I mean... No. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:59:02 United. Oh, we know you like to travel and fly in bullshit and insanity. Oh, she spent over three... Nope, she sent about three times that she put towards it again. That's wonderful. She made her minimum fee payment and she spent $840.9. What is wrong with you? What the fuck are we doing?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Again, you say you want this wedding yet you then just go and do this last month. What are you doing? What's going on with this card? So I opened this card earlier this year. Earlier this year, and it's $7,491. 29 cents at your income that is disgusting. Yeah. So I opened that mainly because I knew that I was going to be flying to and from Chicago a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:59:48 The O'Hare is the hub is one of the hubs for United. So I fly United mostly. They have direct flights from Charleston to Chicago. So it made sense at the time. When I opened it, I got a statement credit. And then in order to get like the mileage rewards on it, I had to spend, I think it was like 3,500 to 4,000. He can't spend money, though. doesn't make any stuff. See, you're not a credit card person. You cannot manage credit cards.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Sign up bonuses make no sense for you because now this is accruing interest and being ridiculous. I mean, if you pay it off immediately, you get your bonus. It's so stupid. You can get the Fizz card. There you go. You can do that. Debord that builds credit. So you get all the rewards, you get the benefits, but it only lets you spend on your checking account, which we know you're incapable of doing like following that rule. So at least it forces you to. And also while we're at it, I mean, if you decide, oh, no, I don't make enough money as an elementary school teacher in South Carolina, which you'll probably decide at some point. If you want, like, a career.
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Starting point is 01:00:55 19 years to pay this off. You're not a credit card person at all. Sign up bonuses, fuck you. You can't pay off the cards. I mean, it's just the sign-up bonuses. Yeah? What about them? I told you, I have impulse control issues. So I think to myself the sign up bonus, I'm like, okay, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And then it just builds and builds and builds. And then I look back and I'm like, how the hell did I spend $7,000? But I bought flights. I bought my concert tickets on there. You know, some of the, one of the purchases on there is one of the, is the Renee rap concert that we're going to this weekend. Sick. So you just did it. So it's already paid for.
Starting point is 01:01:34 It just happened. No, I bought the tickets a while ago, but you're going to hate this. I didn't realize, so there's a way that you can do it on the United card where it's like it's an interest-free payment installment. And I didn't know what it was. So for the Renee Rapp tickets, I ended up clicking it because I was interested in what it was. And so it has an interest savings balance that it charges. So it doesn't charge the interest. on the tickets, but it also charges a fee.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah, a monthly fee of 727 a month. Yeah. Stupid. I knew that that one was going to. Well, also getting food at China Master, Dominoes, going in and getting some bullshit. The Charleston Nail Spa. By the way, it's cheap as $6.1.20. Hey, these nails.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Island Cabana. Audible go to the library. I know there's one in Charleston. It's a city that exists. Amazon, UA, in. built. So that's uh, that's Wi-Fi on the plane. I, I, I, you, you, you, download shit, download shit, don't be a dick. Download shit, download shit. That's what I can do school.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Fuck your school. Download shit. I'm paying $9,000 a year for that. You can do it before and after. I do, I, I, I do my school on a plane. I buy the Wi-Fi so that I can do school. Oh, so I actually have time to do school. That's not an excuse to fly. I'm just saying, you. Okay. Bolero, Hudson News. More news were paying for.
Starting point is 01:03:05 That's the airport. Uh-huh. James Island. There's more inflate Wi-Fi. Cooper Shock. Cooper Shock. Alani. The Ilani Energy drink?
Starting point is 01:03:19 That's so stupid. This makes no sense. They just, okay. It's stupid. Here's the thing. Here. Free sample. Free sample.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Make this with water. This is the G.G. Energy drink. They came out with their Witches brew. Oh, wait. This was just used. Oh my god, an empty piece of plastic You must really love me That one has free samples
Starting point is 01:03:38 You can get your free samples to this But instead of this fucking dumbass bullshit And I get, but they have comparable flavors They came out with the They had the Witches Brew Stop, stop, stop We just did a blind taste test on this This is, I swear, it is just as good
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Starting point is 01:04:46 Make your energy tricks at home. I don't understand this. It makes no sense. That's what it is. I'm just telling you. Just like coffee. Make them at home. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I do have an espresso. More James Island and McDonald's and yeah, you're getting fees for that thing. And then $500 of interest is here. It's ridiculous. It's at a 27.99% interest rate. Yeah. I mean, I do make my coffee at home for the most part.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I do have an espresso machine. There was a little bit of time that I was out of my espresso pods. So I was going to Starbucks. That's kind of expensive anyway. Like, I would rather you, listen, not that you can afford it now, but maybe get gifted an actual espresso machine. That is so much cheaper. The necessapods are, they don't taste as good.
Starting point is 01:05:34 They're like $1.25 a serving. Exactly. That's insane. They're good. Yeah, so is espresso. Espresso. Like espresso. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:46 At least you don't put an X in the word. No. No, my boyfriend. That's what I make every morning's espresso. I put an X in the word. I make espresso and I frost some milk. Late. Boom.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Cheap. And it's good. So I do, I do sometimes make my coffee at home, but whenever I'm out of my pop. It's an expensive thing to... And you go to Starbucks, literally the worst coffee you can get outside of 7-Eleven. Like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:06:08 What is wrong with you? You're in a city. Shut the fuck up. Pull up your Amazon for me and start a screen recording. Okay. That's at a 27.99% interest rate. That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Alrighty. I'm on it. Give. Give. Give. Give. Give. You can say, please.
Starting point is 01:06:28 No. Blackout private information. Screen recording, good. What are you afraid? A little. What would you be embarrassed of? You're saying how much I spend on Amazon? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:42 That's the thing that I'm nervous about. You got some high boots. Don't need that. I'm sure you have clothes. I'm sure you have that clothes, close, close. I'm sure you already have clothes. Knee pain relief, that thing's okay. I did get that.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Braclets, I'm sure you didn't need them. Pens, it's not the absolute worst. This is just going back to like the last month. My goodness. Cash Clusters kit. Lash Custer's kit. Better than going to get your lashes on. I do my lashes at home.
Starting point is 01:07:04 But all this clothes in bullshit and insanity in the boots and the bracelets you do not need. And it's so fucking stupid. What's in the car right now? Get a dress for 50 bucks in the car. Don't. Don't! Okay. It's this dress but in pink.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I'm going through TikTok shop now. It's okay, but this dress is amazing and it's this dress in pink. Shut the fuck up. I don't care. I don't think I've purchased anything on TikTok shop in a while. Well, let's see what a while is. I'm here to confirm. I think the last thing I got might have, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:35 A showerhead? Oh, I did buy my shower head off TikTok shop. Some gummies or nutrition bullshit. Some packets of hello packets and... The Nello call. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bags, pants, dresses, more shower heads. You return that one.
Starting point is 01:07:53 You got a bag, you got nutrition, you know, powder crap. Snowy thing. It's so bullshit. It's all stupid. No wonder. you think my TP fund's ridiculous because you're spending in that category is ridiculous. My choice, by fund, by you. Okay, Bank of America.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Cruise, celebrity cruise? Yes, it's a travel card for cruising. Two double travel cards. Why? Well, you can't afford life. You can't even pay off your debt. Why are you thinking of even getting cards in the travel space in general? That doesn't make any fucking sense.
Starting point is 01:08:27 So that one I got a couple years ago. Also probably stupid. I was going on a cruise with my mom, and she got one, too. We just wanted to have the, like, onboard credit that you get for purchasing on it. So I got that card opened it, and I don't spend on that one anymore. Yeah, I don't see spending right here, but you're only making the minimum. Well, it was a couple dollars higher, which makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I don't understand the strategy of a couple dollars higher and a few cards. but making like no pro- like what? That's not a method. I have so, it's not, it's not meant to be a method. I have,
Starting point is 01:09:09 the fuck you're doing. I have enough, I have enough payment, monthly payments on, on my credit cards that I spend more than you make them. What? Spend more than you make. I do.
Starting point is 01:09:21 So my, the monthly credit card payments that I have when you add all of them together and the personal loan that I pay, minimum payment. is about all I can do. So I just do... No shit.
Starting point is 01:09:34 And then you spend even more than the minimum of the payments on the card. So it doesn't... You're not doing anything. Well, you just ask what the strategy was. I'm just telling you that I... The strategy is to spend more money
Starting point is 01:09:43 than you put towards them. This, even with your little extra payment, still going to take five and a half years to pay off. Five and a half years. No marriage. Because why would he? That's your method. That's your method.
Starting point is 01:09:58 That's your method. It's no marriage. That's... is. Part of... Had a lay fee this year so far is that your method? Lay fee.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Uh-oh, another one. Didn't know that happened. There it is. $258 of interest this year. Almost a full month of work completely gone with interest across everything we've looked at so far, including the personal loan.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So with that credit card specific, or with all of my credit cards, I guess, like, yeah, I end up spending more than I make. There are a few different things that I, like, obviously, like I go and I get my hair down, I go and get my nails down. I do those things.
Starting point is 01:10:34 There are a couple things that I collect in general that I buy. You're collecting. Collect husbands. I don't know if my boyfriend would appreciate that. Yeah, you stop at one. Maybe that's what you're trying to do. I guess not. Your hobbies are more important?
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Starting point is 01:12:38 Type in code Caleb. I know that one always gets a head turn. One of my, I studied stage combat in college as my minor, and so I collect various. You have no fucking money. How are you in a position where you can say you collect anything? And then the other thing I collect is jellycats. What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 01:12:59 What even possibly is that? They are... Show me. We'll put on screen. I don't want to bring my, I have one on my keychain that I didn't buy, my boyfriend bought for me, but I didn't want to bring him in because I knew you'd throw him. Well, if you put it in my face, yes. Why?
Starting point is 01:13:21 His name is Nathan. Why? Why are we spending money on this? I like them. Why? Because I do, because I'm a girl, because they're cute, because they're soft. Girl doesn't mean. That doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:13:32 That's not how this works mathematically. So I have, I think, like, 15 of them just different ones. What? How much are they? They're expensive. That one is, I think, like 25. Oh, what are you doing? I didn't buy that one.
Starting point is 01:13:46 That one was a gift, but I... Again, basically, like, peanut-looking versions of lob boo-boos is more important. You have a little booboo behind you. Yeah, I purchased it for content. It was, it goes again. It's a business expense. It works. Do you write it off?
Starting point is 01:14:01 You know, my S-CPA will figure that out. So the thing about the, about, like, jelly cats is, like, they're very stupid and preventing you from getting married. A lot of people collect them. A lot of people want them. And so when they go in stock on the shop, they usually sell out. Do fads move so quick? People are already getting over the looboos. I was never into the laboos.
Starting point is 01:14:25 I don't care what you were into. People move in and out of things so quick. It's not jelly bean where people are into it for decades. Jelly, beanie babies. where people are into it for decades. Jelly cat's been around a long time. Yeah. And I don't hear about it.
Starting point is 01:14:38 And I hear about people collecting shit all the time. Listen, this isn't going to go the way you think. Maybe it will for a second, but I don't know. And you're willing to pay late fees instead of, you're willing to have the jelly bellies instead of paying your bill on time. Because this is the second one this year so far. Jelly bellies above that. Jelly cat.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Jelly cats above paying our bills. Jelly cats above paying off debts. Jelly cats instead of being free from her. parents jelly cats instead of marriage. I... That's what you are choosing. I really like them. That's one of the things that I... Well, husband, potentially in the future, if she's lucky, which you hear that?
Starting point is 01:15:18 She really likes them. He's bought me, he bought me that one. And then, so he also... You just bought a top of the line MacBook Pro for school. You don't need a MacBook Pro for school. The M4, M5, M3, M2, M1. chip MacBook airs are incredible for school. You're not doing pro work. You're not rendering videos. You're not doing 3D shit. You're not doing, you're not processing AI GPU heavy
Starting point is 01:15:45 requirements. No, but my degree is fully online. So how? Yes. And the MacBook airs are incredible. The new, the M-chip MacBook Pros are incredible. I think I had. Ayers, airs. I think I had a MacBook Air before. Yes, but not, probably not an M-chip. Maybe not, but I had that my previous computer I had for like six years. Yeah, the airs. we're not great before the M-chip. I'll be completely honest. It doesn't matter. Top-of-the-line MacBook Pro?
Starting point is 01:16:09 That's not even close. You're not a pro user. You're not. You don't do anything. You use Google for Chrome. I need to be able to make sure that I... Which you can without a top-of-the-line MacBook Pro. Well, that's...
Starting point is 01:16:23 You can do anything you need to do. Tell me one thing you need to do that requires a pro machine. There's nothing that I specifically need to do. There you go. Shut the f*** up. How much you do you spend on your MacBook Pro? My computer costs me $2,000. I think.
Starting point is 01:16:35 No, you could have easily gotten the $1,100 MacBook air that I get employees on the... Lindsay uses her air. Brandon has his air right there. All of the non-video editors have air and they can do everything on multiple displays. It might have been cheaper for being like a student discount, like go back to school.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Which means you got an even more computer than you should have if after the discount is a $2,000 computer. I think it was a $2,000. Your computer would have been about $1100 before discount. I'm not totally positive. Come on, that's all you need. And that's the 15-inch model versus the 13 air. I mean, I had the MacBook Air prior to when I got my computer before.
Starting point is 01:17:15 But if you get any research or had any conversations with anyone, any of the people at the Apple stores, anything, you would have known that you could have got an M-chip MacBook Air. They're completely different machines. Was that a thing like it? Yes. The airs have been for a few years now, you tit. Why are we yelling? Because you're a tit.
Starting point is 01:17:33 You're spoiled. then you think you need the top of the line. And you choose it over marriage, you choose it over paying your bills on time. You choose it over everything. I destroyed my last computer for being in school. Oh, I guess you're Intel-chipped MacBook Air. No one gives a fuck about those.
Starting point is 01:17:46 No one would advocate for those. No one would advocate for the Intel chip MacBook pros even. I don't even know what an M-chip is. They're Macchip. What's it called? Like M-1, M-2, M-3, M-4. I think we're on to five or six now. You don't need anything more than that for what you do.
Starting point is 01:18:00 You're a browser user. You're a browser. Well, I do use some studio editing stuff for whenever I film. So the airs can handle anything you're doing. I guarantee you. Guarantee what you're doing. A f***ing iPad can do what you're doing. Guaranteed.
Starting point is 01:18:17 I do have an iPad for my undergrad that I use on occasion. Die. I used to take my notes on that, but now I take them all just like on a notebook. It's just easier for me. South Carolina Federal. Credit score 662, 664. Not grades. you know, in that range.
Starting point is 01:18:39 My credit score's always been in like the good range. And so that's... In the mid. Exactly. So that's why I was like, well, I don't need to worry about it. Oh, student loans. Yeah. Now, obviously deferred because you're in school.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I've never paid on my student loans. Because when I graduated my undergrad, they were still being deferred by the government. Yeah. And then by the time that... You've been in a blessed period for these. Yeah. Well, when I started, the year that I started was going to have to start paying my student loans back. I didn't make enough money.
Starting point is 01:19:16 So I was on the income-driven repayment plan. Yeah, which they're kind of. And then I went back to school. So I know that plan doesn't exist anymore, but then I went back to school. It doesn't, but there's the new RAP plan, which will start next year. That is the repayment assistance program sometime next summer. with where your income will be you're likely
Starting point is 01:19:39 I'm okay what's the total amount you will have borrowed by the time you graduate grad school because you're at 44,698 right now it'll probably be 60 to 70 just in student loans what's wrong with you? Well because undergrad and graduate
Starting point is 01:20:02 it together because a good amount of that is my undergrad. So some of these, especially non-subsidized ones, like the interest rates aren't going to be the best that you're getting right now. Your minimum payment under a wrap, I'm guessing, is going to, you should be on like about an $800 payment, but you'll probably be on about $300 to $300 on your income. The idea of paying my student loans back actually makes me sick to my stomach. Why? You went and got a bullshit degree, and now you're getting a master's degree that luckily is a
Starting point is 01:20:28 relatively cheap master's online degree, but honestly, again, for something that, won't be the highest income, just in that state at least. I know, it's just I haven't ever paid on my student loans, so I just... But does it disgust you? Like, oh, no, I got a service and product that I paid for. And now I have to pay for it. I'm nervous to have to start adding that into my... Oh, that makes more sense.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Into my stuff. I don't know. I know that it's going to not be the easiest transition. Well, you'll have a little bit. little bit of time after graduation, but I mean, I mean, what's your income going to be? Do we know? As a teacher? What's your teacher going to be?
Starting point is 01:21:09 What are you doing, exactly? Elementary school, so... Just a random elementary school teacher. Yeah, I mean, I haven't, like, I don't have a job offer anywhere because I'm not licensed yet. No shit. I'm just, okay. The schedule one salary for masters in the Charleston School County District starts at like 58, something like that.
Starting point is 01:21:30 at least that's what it was when I started my program. It might be slightly different now, but... Let's find out, because even... I mean, your payment might even be lower with that. Yeah, about 50. It starts at about 50 with someone, a master's degree, Charleston area. New teacher, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:48 I know that there are like breaks with student loans for people that are in education. I don't know what they are. What do you mean? Breaks? or student loan forgiveness? I don't know what it is. Well, there are certain things if you work in certain school districts,
Starting point is 01:22:04 which are pretty high demand these days. Because, yeah, you work there for quite a few years and then your student loans get forgiven. You know, it's public student loan forgiveness. Something like that. You have to go to like a special district for that where it's usually underserved. Well, there's a chance that I might go and teach in Illinois too.
Starting point is 01:22:21 I'm planning on getting... Those school districts are completely maxed out. I saw them online the other day. All the school districts that people wanted to do in Illinois that are those lower income underserved communities that will have teachers have their student loans forgiven are all hired. They're hired.
Starting point is 01:22:36 I mean, I'm sure there's openings here and there, but a lot of people go for it. I mean, median pay for a teacher salary in the Charleston area is only 58, so you're not going to go up that much higher. You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Enough to get lost. Or you could book a lot. stay with Hilton. Welcome to your ocean front room. Just steps from the water. The Hilton sale is on now. Book on Hilton.com or the Hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected. When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton for this day. For elementary schoolers, it gets a little lower, 56,430. So your raises, it's not even great. You start at almost where everyone is in the middle of their career, which is not a good sign. It's not a good sign. Yeah, there's not a whole lot of return on.
Starting point is 01:23:30 No, there isn't, which is why I'm confused that you're doing it. In the income situation that you're in, probably because you think, because you've never learned the respect for the dollar. You think mommy and daddy will always be there. You've lived a comfortable life. You're not worried about anything. I want to... Not worried.
Starting point is 01:23:44 You've never had to be worried. Well, the thing with going into education is I like working with kids. I enjoy... I understand the like, but you just don't understand what this goes... Sorry, continue. Well, I like working with kids and I want to be able to have a career that offers me the kind of work-life balance that I want. And I, like, I want to be able to spend time with my family and travel and see my friends and go and do all of those things. Yeah, you'll get the summer, spring, winter break.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I'm sure you'll love that. But the pay kind of comes with that. And the pay is you're not going to be living the lifestyle that you are used to. What's your income right now? What's your salary? 60, right? So you're taking a step down. first of all, and you're already over living your 60,000.
Starting point is 01:24:30 You're probably living like an 80,000-hour lifestyle. And yet we're taking a 10,000-hour pay cut. And what fucking world is this happening? Where's sure, there's time to travel. Where's the money to travel? Like, there is a realistic part of this. There's a, there's a probability that I'll end up serving or bartending while teaching, especially like in the summertime.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Well, then where's the work-life balance where you could have just got a 9-to-5 better job that has better vacation. I do. Well, that has good vacation. You'll never get three months off. but. I mean, I like,
Starting point is 01:25:01 I like the F&B lifestyle enough that like if I were to go back to it just to serve or work like that. Yeah, but that's not work-life balance. You already, in order to do this job that you're trying to justify to get the three months off,
Starting point is 01:25:14 you're already destroying your work-life balance in order to afford the life that you're doing. So like the logic is broken. It doesn't work. Maybe, I mean, maybe. Oh, she says she doesn't purchase on TikTok shop. It's the first purchase in her checking account, by the way. I said I don't think I'd done it in a little bit.
Starting point is 01:25:30 You just did. Yeah. All right. Okay. Good. I did. I'm assuming that was, what was the amount for that? 2941.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Listen, I know they pay your car bill, but is it in your name or is it in their name? The debt. Their name. Okay. It's in my mom's name. What do you have? I have a 2020 Nissan. Versa.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Okay. You're very lucky. you're very privileged, you're very spoiled. Yeah. I mean, I like to say well-loved. That's my- It is loved. It's just incorrectly loved.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Because they're enabling you, and they're not setting you up for success. I mean, look at you at 25, floundering around, not knowing what the fuck you're doing. They're trying. No, no, no, no, no. They're not trying to not enable you. They're trying to love you
Starting point is 01:26:19 and do what they think is best. They're just wrong. I mean, my, when it comes, like the car and everything, At some point, I'm going to take on the car payment. I don't, like I said, they want me to be out of debt before I do that, which I'm very grateful for. Yeah. Well, also, I mean, it's in their name.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I don't care about you taking over the car payment. It's their debt. They chose to do this. Yeah. I don't give a fuck about that. If it was in your name and they were paying for it, yeah, I'd want you to take it over. But no, it's their car. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:53 They're just letting you use. They bought it for me when I was 20, when I was in college. oiled. There's a brand new car. Wow. 21 maybe. A little bit of jealousy. That's okay. $170 what you started within your checking account. Like what the fuck? What are we doing? And we're going to while we have that, we're doing TikTok shop McDonald's Spinks and Sphinx. What's Sphinx? That's a gas station. I get. You went and got some bullshit twice. $3.5 cents, $2.10. Make your energy drinks at home. 25 cents at a serving. It was my electric lights. There's well. Hey, guess what? In the hot, in the hot, in the hot,
Starting point is 01:27:29 hydration version, there's electrolytes. 25 cents a surfing. Stop with the stupid $3 purchases at a gas station, people. Use code hammer. I run, I run to the gas. I justify, I run to the gas station. I buy my electrolytes. I run home.
Starting point is 01:27:43 But you don't even have to run to the gas station. You can run wherever you want and then make your little thing and shake you, shaky, shaky, shaky, slurp, slurp. I like running to the gas station. Cool. Run there. Don't purchase. And then have a slurp, slurp, slurp.
Starting point is 01:27:55 It's not as fun. You're right. You're right. Sacrificing for a better life is not as fun. Running sucks in general. So I just... Sacrificing for a better life is not as fun. You are correct.
Starting point is 01:28:07 You have to choose what you prefer. Fun or sacrifice for a better life. Grando Rio. Grande Rio. Alta. Starbucks store. Sweat house. Sweat house.
Starting point is 01:28:19 So that was a membership that I had that I actually canceled. Well, good. You better have. When I looked through all these statements. Southern Brews Coffee. Mine Arrow went and got some bullshit. TikTok shop. Apple, DoorDash.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Fuck you, DoorDash. DoorDash over marriage. Reversphone.com. You searched up a phone number. I did. I didn't realize that that was still charging me. I had, okay, I had someone spoofed my phone number. So I was trying to figure out who the heck kept calling me.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Who did it? Don't know some random person in Washington. There you go. some fucking jean saffre brew and um oh i think that's a firm maybe or some bullshit or bath and body works as well appleville starbucks apple bill went in got an energy drink second state of something there's a restaurant uh father's mustache that's a bar cinema mark cinema mark dutch bros mcdonalds complains about not having enough money in her checking account look at all this is insanity
Starting point is 01:29:24 dutch bros mcdonald's tattooed mouse moose apple bill dooredish again door d'ad or Dunkin' Donuts, Baskin' Robinson, Huntington Bank, Canva, Duncan Mobile, Cooper's Hawk, Heroes, Coffee, and Bag, Lyft, Zell, Lift, Zell. I was in. Whisper's Oak, Whisper's Oak, Whisper's Oak, Jimmy Johns, a round cafe. Bolero, Duncan Mobile app, Binney's beverage, Domino's, Hallmark, Tuss, Duncan Mobile Up again, Tuscany, kicking chicken, Apple, White Pages, what the fuck is wrong with you? I was in Chicago for that, a lot of that time.
Starting point is 01:30:02 So I did spend a lot of money when I was out there. Have you overdrafted this year? No. I've never overdrafted that account. Well, you said you've never made a mispayment, so I don't know. That I do know. Pull up your phone again. Pull it up and give.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Where am I going? Give. Just my phone in general? Yes. All right. I know how to navigate a phone. Well, you don't. I thought maybe you were going to my bank app. No.
Starting point is 01:30:25 This is a very vulnerable moment for me. What are you scared of? What are you looking at? Okay You have EADAP A Luzit calorie counter Strava run, bike, walk
Starting point is 01:30:37 At least these are health focused I code plus I'm okay with that Turaza aesthetic photo app 3999 Fuck you That's stupid get rid of that Info editor Fannieu get rid of that
Starting point is 01:30:46 I think You've had Luzit before as well and uncanceled Beauty Plus Keput notably smarter AI note Bumble Premium Okay old Yeah back in spring
Starting point is 01:30:58 I said had Okay, I was gonna say, don't go out there. My relationship up. Tick, Tick, Tick, Tto-do calendar, Apple TV. You've had every subscription in the world. Hinge Premium. That was late last year. Shmoody, mood and habit tracker,
Starting point is 01:31:13 my bar, cocktail recipes. All right, drunk, clear wave. I work at a bar. And then May 1st expired this year, Hinge Premium. Bumble Premium again. Bumble Premium again. So many Bumble Premiums. Pixar and Toland.
Starting point is 01:31:26 The Charleston dating scene is god awful. Well, yes, Charles, You wouldn't think that's where necessarily the hot and youngs are going. No. No. The Charleston dating scene is god-awful. It's an old person city. I still love it, but.
Starting point is 01:31:38 It is an old person city. And the ratio of men to women is god-awful, too. More women? Yeah, it's like a three-to-one ratio. Yeah, there you go. Brandon, shall we? It's hard to meet anyone. I met my boyfriend just doing a run club together,
Starting point is 01:31:53 which is kind of like the adult version of dating apps. The in-person version of dating apps at this point. Next up half the time you'll get canceled. But all right, total income now is 3,750. Let's get your debt minimum payment, not including your car. So just the credit cards. The personal loans 152.45. The capital one's 184.
Starting point is 01:32:13 The United is 334 in 53 cents. And then 43 goes to the Bank of America. I would recommend budgeting off of 3,400, not 37. Why? 4,1K contributions. Okay, 3,400. That's why. fine yep take the free money 713 dollars and 98 cents goes to minimumity payments which is already
Starting point is 01:32:33 disgusting i know from the 3400 that hits our account we're talking 21% already goes to debt minanti payments none of which are an asset that's not even student loans that's nothing just credit cards and personal loan what's your rent 858 utilities i budget 120 is that including internet yes we'll call it 130 then phone bill don't have one okay when you do do helium if t-mobile's get in that area. It's like 15 bucks a line. Okay. There's a zero dollar plan too, but that's if you don't use that or much. But that's fine. Do you pay for gas? I do. How much? I budget 65 every two weeks. Okay, okay. It might be a little less because I'm not driving that far. We'll do 130. car insurance. Do they cover that? Uh-huh. Payment they cover. Dude, you're in such a bus position.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Necessary food, 300. Use the meal plan. Use the cookbook. Meal prep, warm up overnight Oh, it's all these different things that you're doing. TP fund 150. You have a little extra room that's your parents. I mean, we could bump that up. Fuck you. I bumped it up from 100 to 150. Okay, medical health care.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Are there any co-pays? Yes. So I co-pay. I'm trying to work out with my insurance right now to cover something. So right now I co-pay like $80 a week for something. I see a chiropractor. Why? I have a really bad back.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Okay, times 52 divided by 12. So right now my... Back things. I think chiropractor is the only thing they've medically been able to figure out is some neck things. I don't think back they've officially in a medical... It's my hips, my spine, and my neck are all misaligned. I might have to go see a physical therapist. It's a whole...
Starting point is 01:34:11 Yeah, probably. Okay. So we're going to budget $3.47 a month for that. Jim, how much? Though that's just really quickly. That's just that. Yeah, much more. $16 a month for one appointment.
Starting point is 01:34:24 and then my medication costs me, I think, like $40 a month. Okay. So medical is $403. Okay. How much for Jim? $3.199. Subscriptions. Let's try to do $25.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Let's try to do $40. I saw Canva as well. Okay. Is there any pets? No, I don't have any pets. Anything else that needs to be in the budget that I have not put in? I'm trying to think. I try and put aside a little bit of money in my budget in case I have any kind of
Starting point is 01:34:56 appliance issues, like we just had to fix our washing machine? No, that's savings, that's emergencies. That's not in the budget. Then no. Separate. That's where you're putting money aside. Let's see how much you have left over. Okay, anything else? No, I don't think there's anything else.
Starting point is 01:35:09 $2,748.78. And 87 cents, sorry. Minus to $3,400 leaves you an extra. Let's just call it $6.50. Okay. Let me give you $50 for fun. It's not much, but it at least gives you a little rogo room. Let's call it 600 left on a monthly basis.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Okay, the bad debt is $17,204.501 cents. You're going to buy that 600. It's not horrible. I mean, it'll accelerate. Well, actually, I won't accelerate after school because your income will go down. You're going to have to work two jobs when you first start teaching. You're going to have to do bartending and stuff. But right now this is going to take basically two and a half years to get debt free.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Call it another three-fourths of a year to get a fully funded emergency fund. So three years and a quarter, three years and three months, three months, death free, fully funded, and Murray's fund. You can accelerate that, though, by picking up some extra shifts, being a bartender now outside of this works. It's hard with school, so probably not. But once you're that teacher, then you're going to go be a bartender as well to at least make what you're making now, but hopefully a little more as well.
Starting point is 01:36:17 That's my help. That'll help accelerate this. Maybe you'll get blessed and have a slightly higher than $50,000 a year teaching job, but that's kind of where people are starting. It might even be under because that's meaty. So it's a hard place to be in, but three years and three months is not bad for financial order. Now, when we incorporate student loans, that is going to be a new minimum fee payment, which is going to make it harder for you to accelerate the process.
Starting point is 01:36:39 So I need you to take care of it as much as you can now before that starts hitting. Because we need to limit our minimumity payments by the time that payment hits. You'll get on the rap plan, so you'll still have a lower payment. I mean, chunky amount of student loans. Yeah, it's not a great amount of. money towards my education, that's for sure. With student loans paying them back, this is just a question I have for you, student loans paying them back while you're in school.
Starting point is 01:37:08 No, it doesn't make any sense. Why would you? You have so much debt that's going to take longer to pay off from when you're in school. You have high interest debt that is riskier pay off now. Federal student loans lease has extra protections and hardships. Okay, fair enough. Okay, I am going to do it on a financial score, but, Remember, I'm going to call her parents in the post show.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Get ready for that. And I will confront them about this enablement once and for all. Spending in a budget, zero out of ten. Debt? It's not horrendous. For your income, it's bad, but it's not like the worst debt in the world. And it's honestly because of your parents. They make it acceptable.
Starting point is 01:37:45 But two out of ten. Emergency fund, nothing in saving zero out of ten. What's in retirement, if anything? $700. $700. $700. $700. $700.
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Starting point is 01:38:11 I'll see you there. I just found out in between filming the episode in the Financial Auto Post show that her parents came to the fucking rescue and is bailing her out again. They gave me. How much? That's crazy. That's a insane number. It's two of those.
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