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I told you was spring break.
That doesn't mean you have to spend like bullshit.
It doesn't mean you have to go fucking.
What are you talking about?
And I'm also only 21.
Are you fucking like actually stupid?
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That's how I work.
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Hi, my name is Sabrina. I'm 21 years old.
I'm from Melbourne, Florida, and you're watching Financial Audit.
Thanks for coming up from Florida.
So many Florida people.
Okay.
What do you do for a living there?
I am a meat clerk, so I work in the meat department at a grocery store.
Cool.
We've had a few people like that on the show.
What do you make?
It's never been a lot.
No, I just got promoted to full-time.
So I was making 15-25 and then 16-50, and then I just got 17-25 an hour.
What metro is Melbourne in?
Sorry?
What metro is Melbourne in?
Because I don't know what-area of living.
Oh, like how much is it?
It's a lot.
It's expensive.
What metro is it in?
Like Tampa.
Oh, sorry.
It's near Orlando.
So it's like an hour south of Orlando.
So it's kind of an expensive area.
And your hourly is at 16 what?
Now it's 1725.
Well, 1725.
Okay, how many hours a week do you work?
40.
It's full time.
Good.
How much hits your account then?
What are we expecting to hit your account?
So about $500 a paycheck and I get paid weekly.
So it's around there.
A little bit goes into a different account to pay my mom from my car payment.
So $2,000 hits your account a monthly basis.
Yeah.
to survive.
Yeah.
Is that all that's going on?
21.
That's a,
I haven't had someone 21 in a while,
so it's actually kind of young.
You could be in school.
You could be just working.
You could be career.
We could be just starting out.
Post college?
Like, what's going on?
It's such an interesting age.
So I am still going to school.
So I moved to Melbourne to go to school.
So I'm at Florida.
Really?
But you're doing 40 hours a week?
Oh, part-time school?
Yeah.
No, it's full-time school.
I'm doing both.
That's okay.
That's a lot.
It is a lot.
I do,
I work Monday.
Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then
school Tuesday, Thursday. There's too many pieces of paper in here
for a college student at 21 years
old. It's not that bad. I mean, definitely could be worse.
I'm curious. I, okay, so I
go in blind to these conversations because I want to
go through with the audience
and
I don't know if we're just trying to film a different
kind of audit because this is our last time
filming in this studio before we moved to
our new studio and that's really exciting, but
people have like
positive finances.
I've heard that in comments before.
Is this the Positive Finances episode?
This is best buy cards.
You had a slight bounce, and it's completely paid off to zero.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, that's worth celebrating, right?
Yeah.
I worked really hard for that one.
So this is good.
Okay.
Someone to celebrate?
I don't see.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Champagne.
Okay.
Why?
What's happening?
Well, here.
I'm going to let you do the champagne.
Okay.
Well, I don't know what I'm doing.
doing with champagne.
Well, we were going to pop a bottle.
No, I don't know how to.
Oh, okay.
I don't drink.
Okay, here, I'll give you this one.
Oh, God, oh, God.
I think you push forward.
Oh, we push up.
Ah!
Oh, God, it's everywhere.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
The f***.
The f***.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Here, you can just like pick some up and just throw it.
Oh, iPad is going to be.
I'm not a multi-thousand-dollar machine, that's it.
Yeah, I'm so sorry.
I did not think it was going to be that much.
Okay, well, this is good.
So I guess we're celebrating with a positive financial audit.
Is that what's happening?
Yes, we are.
Okay, cool.
Wow.
Well, the audience has asked for it.
So here we are.
Yay.
Woo!
Oh, look at that.
Oh, bubbly.
It's everywhere.
Get the floor nice and nasty before we leave.
Hey, it's not ours anymore.
Dang.
Well, we got us up, Lisa.
Okay.
Hold on.
A second.
Okay.
Okay, one second.
I don't know what the fuck.
This is so weird.
I have no idea.
What is happening?
Okay, well, on this piece of paper, I see something with a balance.
What, okay, what is this?
I don't know what they're showing me.
It's that fucking label does not the document.
That's the best buy card.
The best buy card.
That is the best buy card.
Which one's the document now?
That is it.
That's the current balance.
Okay.
As of like a week.
Like two weeks ago.
Great.
Fucking awesome.
That's.
Well done, guys.
There's a really good reason.
What a prank.
All right.
I thought, all right.
So I guess we're not ending with the positive financial.
All right.
There's a really good reason.
Where's the good reason to bring the mood down?
Yeah, let's hear that.
It's really good.
And you fucking made a pauper for that.
Yeah.
Did they quite coordinate that with you?
No.
Not the popper thing.
Oh, but you knew a balance was coming out.
Yeah.
You f- okay.
Sorry.
Great.
Go ahead.
So when I moved, I could not take my iPad that was my dad's with me.
So for school, I basically just had to get another one.
College?
For college?
Yes.
You didn't have a computer.
I do have a computer.
Why the fucking.
Because I...
You had a $0 card.
I did a zero card.
Which, well, I guess that makes sense if I have a little more critical thinking
skills, the fucking stack is thick.
What were they all going to be, different Roth IRAs or something?
So I guess it makes sense.
Okay.
Great.
So I had to get that card for school.
So obviously we probably don't have the best finances I'm starting to assume.
They're not bad.
But you take a card that was a zero?
What do you mean they're not bad?
You took a card that's zero and you brought it all the way back up.
And I thought iPad when you had a computer already.
Because they told me that if I didn't use the card, they were going to close it.
And I remember you're saying that if you close the account, then it's worse for your credit.
So I use the card for swimming for school.
That way I could get it paid back.
Get a fucking $5 sandwich?
What are you talking about?
I can only use that card at Best Buy.
You can't use it anywhere but Best Buy.
Go to Best Buy an H-DMI cord.
But I don't need an H-DMI cord.
If I was going to buy something.
No, you could have got some fucking candy.
There's candy at the checkout.
Yeah, but if I were going to buy something.
Hey, hey, hey, right.
Fucking what the fuck?
What the fuck are you talking about?
An iPad.
You already have a fucking computer.
Listen, the only reason I use this is because of the show.
No one that buys an iPad actually uses it.
I use it every day.
And I'm sure you have for your little month because I have your most reason statement.
No, I use it before I move.
out of the balance now apparently so
fucking great. Listen, this
is stupid. You could have gotten there, got a
fucking little box of candy. You could have gotten
anything that was so much cheaper.
Yeah, but if I was it, huh?
I do use it. Everyone uses an iPad
No, I was using it before I moved, and then
I couldn't take it with me. What for watching YouTube videos?
Then why do you have a computer?
I use it also for school.
I take notes with the iPad. So you need it.
Yes. You can't take notes on a computer.
No, not because if I can't
like type fast enough to take to keep
up with anything, so I write it down.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
A great new invention.
I do have pencils and paper.
I do both of them.
How many fucking places to write down do you need?
I have one.
Okay, so I'd use the iPad when I'm in school.
You did not need a $900 for stupid.
You did not need that.
When you're already drowning in debt, I am assuming.
Yes.
What a stupid fucking thing.
I think it's, I thought it was good because I used it for school.
So I had used the car.
I give them too much freedom to fuck with me.
Well, I had used the card.
at first to get a pair of headphones that I also use every single day because I didn't have any and I needed headphones.
And then I paid those off.
You did not need probably the price of the headphones that you got.
They were on sale.
You make 2,000 hours a month and you waste it half of a month's income on an iPad.
Shut the fuck up when you have pen and paper.
Shut the fuck up when you have a laptop.
Shut the fuck up.
This is so stupid.
This is the dumbest thing.
This is such a stupid way to close my final conversation in this building.
I think it gets worse.
Great.
Oh, fucking fantastic.
Okay, so what are we talking about here then?
Because obviously, okay, you're in school.
Sounds like you moved to this area for school.
What is going on?
What the fuck are we talking about today, dude?
Like, why am I there?
What are you even studying?
Forensic psychology.
Okay.
With a minor in child advocacy studies.
okay do you even need a minor
I wouldn't even like waste time on that these days
no the minor it's only an extra like
three or four classes but it gives me a certification
that's expensive for you okay yeah
but I get a certification yeah so I can work
directly in the field with that where are you in your schooling journey
I already have my AA or my AS technically
so it's it's the degree below my bachelor's
your associates yeah so I only need my bachelor's and then I can get the
certification and then if I get if I wait another semester
and get one more certification I'll be dual
certified so I can work right away. I certainly hope so. Yeah. 21. You started at 18.
Yeah, I mean, the years line up. So you're in year three? Technically, yes. So what are we talking
about today? Why are we in so much debt? Why is everything? I'm again assuming I haven't seen it,
but there's no way that you're not with this much paperwork. So when I moved, I wasn't
planning on not having a job right away because I worked at the place that I work now.
I worked there before I moved.
But my transfer took way longer than I expected.
So I essentially was living without an income for the first like two like month,
two months of living there.
This can't be just two months of shit.
No, it's definitely not.
Then what are you talking about?
A good amount of it is.
Well, I also live with my boyfriend.
And when he moved in with me.
Oh, no.
That means I get debt.
No.
No, when he moved in with me, his grandparents are paying for his college.
and their one rule was that he needed to focus on school for the first semester and they didn't
want him to get a job.
So I'm paying for both of our expenses.
No.
I kind of had to.
No.
What do you mean no?
He can still borrow for living expenses for schooling.
What do you mean?
Like borrow a loan or something?
He doesn't have any credit.
A student loan though.
Can't cover off-campus living.
It is.
His grandparents are paying for that, but they're not paying for like our cats or
anything that we had to do to set up the apartment.
Like they're only paying for food. You didn't have to
set up the apartment. What? I had nothing.
I literally had nothing. Congratulations.
I mean, that's why.
I had an air matches for fucking six months when I first
moved down here. Yeah. So I was sacrificing.
I mean, I had a, I brought a bed with me.
Oh, there you go. So that was nice.
So what the f-so? So you're just using this as an
excuse. You did not need to go crazy. Dude, my first,
my first apartment in
when I was in college, just used furniture off of a Facebook
marketplace. So I spent like 100.
bucks on for everything.
I did get a bunch of
stuff.
Yeah, but if you
were scrapping, if you were being
scrappy, you would not be in these kind of
finances. Yeah. I mean, I'm also
only 21 and I've never
lived alone, so it's kind of hard to just like
boop, now you're on your own. I am
going to commit
against this generation. I am so sorry.
Are you fucking like actually stupid?
Can I ask you that? I've actually been
taking care of everything since I was 12.
Okay, yeah, what was then
great? I would actually like to hear that.
Then what is the, I'm just a 21 year old?
What a, what is the infant?
Everyone does.
You're going to make mistakes until you die.
Yeah.
It's not the I'm 21.
Don't infantilize yourself and give yourself a preemptive excuse to fuck up.
You will fuck up because you are a human in a very temporary life on earth.
But stuff is infantilize.
Next you're going to pull out the, oh, but my frontal lobes not fully developed until 25.
I'm a psych major.
I would not do that.
14, you have the cognitive skills to make the vast majority of rational decisions in this world.
And then it slightly develops more until 25.
It's not like a switch is flipped.
So what the fuck is?
I'm just 21.
It's so stupid.
I didn't ask that.
Well, you asked why.
Yeah, and that's your answer is...
Part of it.
Is I get to excuse everything because I'm too young to be able to advocate for myself and make
mature choices.
Well, a bunch of the cards had like 0% APRs.
So I was using those because they didn't have anything in the bank.
And then I just like...
Did you know what that would end up meaning?
Yeah, that it accrues.
Eventually.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I didn't like under...
Then what was the intention behind it then?
Well, I was using them at first because I didn't have an income.
So I was basically paying for everything with that.
You said for like three months.
Yeah, but I had no money to...
Like, I didn't have...
What was your living expenses for three months that you like wait into?
More debt than like humans go into?
It's not that bad.
It's bad.
Oh, listen, I don't know.
But all I know is I have a thick.
stack. Yeah, no, it's not, it's a reasonable amount of debt, I would say, for a living. Hold on. I can actually
look in here and see what it was added up to. 33,000 dollars. That's hardly a reasonable amount of
debt of debt. Part of it is my car. That's a debt. That's an appreciating asset. I don't give a
fuck. That is still something you have. Yeah, but that's not like all of it is, it's not like I owe
$31,000 or $33, but for being stupid. Maybe. That car may have been a stupid purchase. Well, I lived on a dirt road.
and I needed a car that was reliable.
So that was the car.
It was either that or a car that would have broke down.
I saw some dirt outside too.
It's very scary.
Okay, that's not fair.
The road is purely potholes.
I mean, like, it's literally one of the most dangerous roads in Alachua County.
There's, like, been news articles about it being such a bad road.
Move.
I can't, I was living with my parents.
What did you want me to do?
Drop out with no money.
When?
When did you move?
I moved in this, this past December.
So December 24th.
Mm-hmm.
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free. Uh, listen, I haven't been on that road. I don't drive on every road. Cool.
listen, but it sounds like,
it sounds like based on every conversation
I've ever had, a really good reason
to justify a purchase that was potentially stupid.
I haven't looked at your car. I don't know.
It might not be a stupid purchase.
Well, then it's probably a stupid purchase.
It was used. I will say it was used. It was not a new car.
I did not go out and buy a brand new car.
So, I mean, I think that's kind of important.
Because I could have.
I mean, I could have just got like a brand new car and not.
Yeah, you can. You can fuck up your life in a lot of ways.
It doesn't mean you've done okay just because you've
fucked up your life in a little way.
But you f*** up your life in more than a little way.
Yeah.
Because $33,000 hours halfway into college?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not good.
Yeah.
A good amount of that is school, too.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
So what are you trying to do?
What are we talking about then?
Like in general?
Or like with my career.
Your money, your finances.
I'm trying to not be in debt.
And I would really like to get to a position where I have the ability to go to the parks that are near me.
I live like an hour.
from Disney and my sister has
annual pass and I'd really like to get one to go with her.
How was your sister?
25.
Does she have a career?
Almost 25.
Yes.
That's why she can!
That's why you can't!
You're in college!
Shut the fuck up!
I mean, I could eventually.
Do I wait here, you're 25?
Yeah, eventually.
Oh, you're not talking about now.
No, yeah, I just want to be a Disney adult at some point.
At some point, sure, you can be a fucking weirdo.
That's okay.
It's fun.
No, it's okay.
Disney's fine.
Thank you.
Well, and it's the good Disney.
Thank you.
I don't know, but it's a little.
I've also had a lot of weird Disney people on the show.
Oh, God.
No, they can be a lot.
Hold on,
you've been accepted on the show.
Trust me.
I highly doubt that means you're not.
Okay, so we know
2,000 hours came in, right?
Yes.
Good.
How much it went out?
Probably around three.
Okay, yeah, 9,258.
Lightwork, no reaction.
Awesome.
No reaction.
I would not doubt that at all.
This month.
was spring break.
No, but this month was spring break.
That's worth ruining our literal next 50 spring days.
Fuck your boyfriend.
I don't give a fuck.
He's nice.
Cool.
I don't give a fuck.
That's his birthday.
Fuck him.
Well, I mean, I didn't want to not get him something.
I just told you what to do.
I don't think that's a birthday present.
I'm joking, but I'm joking.
All I'm saying is that is not an excuse to ruin his next five birthdays because you don't have money or your next five birthdays.
money or your next five birthdays because you spent it all on him.
Yeah.
Are you crying?
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
What's happening?
He just does a lot for me.
What does he do?
I mean, we've, we've been dating for like almost three years and he's been like really
important to me and I just wanted to do something nice for him for his birthday.
What did you do?
I took, we went to Disney Springs for the day.
Okay.
Everything's going to revolve around Disney.
Yeah, it is.
Um, well, he loves Legos.
So I bought him two.
Two really nice Lego sets.
How much does that cost?
You spent 9,500 when you brought in two.
I doubt that was all Legos.
Was that all Legos?
No, it was not, but a good amount of it was.
Of 9,000.
How much was this?
Like that single day, I spent about $1,000, probably,
or just like that one day at Disney Springs,
and a lot of that was on him.
How can you even come close to finding that acceptable?
You said you're on your own since 13,
then you would have any kind of reasonable.
Not on my own.
I've just had to grow up fast.
Okay.
Then you should know that spending a month's income on a birthday,
half a month's income on one day is like the heart's fine,
but you're destroying yourself.
You're destroying potentially a relationship because financial reasons
are one of the leading causes for separation in this country.
So it's like you're putting your relationship at risk too.
And he would have been totally okay.
You wanted to spoil.
Great. Love it.
But that's also a slightly selfish desire of wanting to spoil.
Because you wanted to. He didn't need to be spoiled.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, a lot of that went on a new card.
Okay.
Okay, but you have to listen.
The card itself, they were doing a promotion where if you spent $1,000, they gave you $400 back immediately, which did happen.
So that's why that happened that day.
Great.
And now we have almost as much debt as your death situation for your age is insane.
Yeah.
Where do you think you are in the world of finances?
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Oh, that's right.
Zero dollar best fight card.
Right.
Great.
At least I paid it off once.
Like some people don't.
You're going to fucking die.
No, I'm just saying.
Like some people don't pay.
off their cards at all. Like at least I paid it off
once. Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. Oh,
humans. Humans. What flawed individuals
we are. Yeah. The fact that
other fucking people do something does not
mean it is okay for you to do it.
I will never understand this concept. I swear
it is one third of the conversations I have on here.
It's like, who gives a fuck?
If people are doing bad
who cares? If people are
smoking, does that mean
that just because you do a bad
drug that's not as bad as that you're doing okay?
No! Who?
Who cares about these others?
Who gives us ss that does not justify a single thing about your life?
And it never will.
You not being able to get ahead ever.
Just because other people are worse doesn't mean you not being able to get ahead is good.
I will never understand it.
Stop with this bullshit.
What is the minimum of the payment on this fucking Best Buy card now?
$41.
Okay.
you owe
$902.77
41 a month
I'm gonna
sakes, dude
you were making progress
you paid off this card
and then you immediately
f***ed it
and there was
you asked why
I'm gonna
I'm gonna
yeah it's your acceptance of it
it's your acceptance of it or justifying it
this is stupid as
a Disney card
I told you about that card
I told you
you about that. Oh, for sake. What did you expect? I think my brain wanted to forget it already
because it was so fucking dumb. Okay, the Disney premiere card. So what is going on? That's the one that
if you spent a thousand, they gave you 400 back. Yeah, but now you have a card that you're not
fully paying off that is eventually going to accrue interest. Does it accrue interest now?
Why are you sending screenshots instead of statements like we request? Because that
happened. I got that card after I had already sent the original statements and that's what they told me to do
because it doesn't have a full statement yet. Oh my gosh. You're getting new cards after
applying to be on the financial where it's about cleaning up your finances.
I'm going to burn this place to the ground.
What's the last day here?
It really is.
And I should claim the insurance money.
This is so stupid.
This is so fucking stupid.
You open a new debt and round that debt up on the best buy card.
There's two.
You won't play.
There's beyond the fuck shot.
I don't even want to hear it yet.
Oh, I'm just trying to process.
The fucking choice.
in your life.
Yeah, it's everywhere.
What is the minimum payment on this?
Because I don't know.
It doesn't tell me.
What do you mean?
It's because it says it right there.
There is no minimum payment yet because it hasn't had a full cycle.
What is it?
Pull it up now.
Okay.
And what is the interest accruing on it?
I believe it's around 25.
And if you spent $1,000, you got $100.
Yeah, $400, $400.
$400.
That was your little intro thing.
They get you in with nice little pennies.
Yeah.
Nice little pennies.
Knowing you so far,
knowing you so far and that you like to build cards back up,
not pay them off.
Let interest accrue.
I'm going to bet you're probably going to eventually pay more than $400 in interest
and they're going to well make their money back.
Mickey's going to...
See, it still says no minimum monthly payment.
Give me this.
Yeah, you're right.
It doesn't.
But what it does say is that it went up by...
Okay, that was to get me here.
Okay, well, that'll be reimbursed.
Why did you put that on a card?
Because I didn't have it in my checking account.
Okay.
Now, if you're loving your life without having money in your checking account, why?
Because it was spring break.
That's why.
It's not because you came here.
It's because you went like you were a fucking moron during spring break.
You're already in Florida.
You don't even need to go anywhere.
That's where everyone goes.
Yeah.
Shut the fuck up spring break.
It's a 30% interest.
It's so stupid.
Great.
So now we're talking $1,040.
and 43 cents.
Oh, so close to being maxed out.
I bet it will be by the time you go back home.
I have never maxed out a card.
You're about to.
Okay, well, I've never gone over.
You're about to.
Oh, good.
Oh, good.
It's to get here.
That's why we're getting Starbucks.
Dining.
Well, yeah, I had to leave like super early this morning.
I flew in today.
Disney store, Sephora,
Sephora, Bake House.
Sea World.
Sea World.
Sea World, Sea World, a restaurant, Perta Vida, going and getting some bullshit.
Yeah.
Big House Disney Store, Spice and Tea.
I'm glad we are accruing 30% interest for Lego Disney Springs and B.Y. Basin.
It's just so fucking moronic.
What are you spending at AutoZone?
Oh, that was a windshield wiper, but they gave part of it back to me because it was the wrong one.
Dude, you're spending like a fiend.
Okay, well, my wincheweper broke.
Not that.
Everything else I mentioned.
Well, I already told you about everything else.
So that's what you're talking about.
You think that it justifies it?
What?
That I told you about it?
Yes.
No.
Then I don't give a fuck.
What are you asked?
I did not ask if you've told me about it.
Oh.
Shut the fuck up.
I know, kind of, sometimes, what I've said.
You spend like a feat.
and no, what you told me about was your past spending
to get you to that of thousands bet.
Yeah.
You didn't tell me about the,
Darby's and the dining.
And the dining.
That's school.
And stop you didn't get any bull-th.
So you went to spring break.
Where the fuck did you go?
Disney Springs.
Right, that's right.
I don't even know what that is.
Where is that?
It's like, have you heard downtown Disney?
So you went an hour away and we blew our life?
Okay.
Go to a pool next time.
You're,
Listen, you can do that as a college student.
If you have the money, you're making it so much harder for you later.
And you just don't understand that now.
I mean, there's no...
I'm going to assume the amount of payment's going to be something like 50 bucks.
Probably, yeah, 50.
Okay.
So literally, in order to get that bonus, you didn't spend it on anything that provides you values, literally just going on to eat, out to eat, out to eat.
And then, yes, $400 dollars of Legos, but I'll eat, out to eat, out to eat, out to eat.
out to eat out to eat out tea out tea out to eat that's all it was well i mean it was also sephora and
the spice and tea exchange which isn't eating so bullshit bullshit yeah i mean i told you it was
spring break that doesn't mean you have to spend like bullshit you went to a destination doesn't
mean you have to go fucking insane oh shiny i'm what are you talking about i mean that's not how we all
activate that's not how we all work that's how i work
then go to therapy.
Like what?
I can't fix that.
I can get you on a budget,
but I can't fix you not being able to like,
look at that over there.
It's not bad.
Well, then you can control it.
Yeah.
I didn't even know what you spent last month.
Probably didn't even know what she spent on this fucking card.
I know it was on that one.
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So great.
We have like $2,000 in credit cards already.
24.
That's our entire month of income.
Yay, okay.
What's your rent?
Is he working now?
No, he's going to start working in May.
He had to wait the whole first semester.
That was their rule.
I hated it too.
Just to be clear.
And they can pay for his life outside of that, right?
What do you mean?
It's only covering, it's a 529 plan.
I don't know if you know what that is,
but it can only be used for rent.
school, like tuition, books.
So what are you? You're just covering
fucking Lego sets and driving
to restaurants and then paying for the restaurants.
That's not stuff that is required to live.
No, I pay for our cats. I pay for...
Don't get cats if you can't afford them.
I had them already. They were my cats.
Well...
I wasn't... What don't we do? Throw them outside?
They're from their childhood?
No, well, I mean, kind of.
What?
I got them last year when I lived at home.
No, then you shouldn't have. If you couldn't afford them,
if you knew what you were going to do in life,
you cannot get pets.
selfish of you. It's brutal
to say, but it is. It's
selfish to get pets you cannot take care of.
And it's not his responsibility to take care of
your cats.
So what else?
Because really, I'm just hearing your choices.
I mean, I love my cats. I'm not going to
just get rid of them. That's not what I'm saying. What else
is he not covering? Anything that
isn't food or rent. So like
any of the cleaning stuff, like the taking care of
the apartment, like anything like that.
Listen, that's like, that's not
even that crazy though. Cleaning supplies
is not that crazy.
Yeah, but it adds up.
It could be like 50 bucks a month.
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A lot of the food is also on me.
Not groceries.
A good amount of the groceries are on me.
Why?
Then you guys are over shopping.
No, because he has a payment.
The payment plan can only cover a school amount of money.
Yeah, how much?
So like this, I don't know exactly.
It's his, it's not my money.
I don't look at it.
But you guys are communicating and you're covering things.
You should have some kind of insight.
Well, he pays for like over, he pays for like a quarter, almost half of the food.
If he does half, then you're not cutting into your money.
Because you're just covering half, which is two people, you.
Yeah, but everything that adds up.
All my monthly expenses are a lot.
Yeah, by your choice, not from him not being able to cover.
I mean, it's not my fault that my car is almost $600 a month.
Yes, it is.
I didn't really choose that car myself.
Your parents did?
My grandma did.
They forced you to.
Pretty much.
What is pretty much?
It was between that and,
a more expensive truck.
Why do they get to choose what car?
Because my grandma took me car shopping.
When my first car, well, my first car, broke down.
Then you say, no, grandma, take me home, and then go car shopping by yourself.
I couldn't.
I was 17.
Yes, you could.
How was I supposed to go car shopping without a car?
Uber.
With no money?
Buddy.
Literally nothing.
You didn't have a part-time job?
I did, but I got fired from that job.
Why?
Because the company got, like, the company went away, basically.
The company stopped being a thing.
So you got let go.
Okay, that's different.
Okay, so you get another part-time job.
I guarantee you you get to drop some fries.
A lot of these things is ending up to be,
every time we go down the, I can go further down the rabbit hole,
and it turns out it's something that you chose, kind of, to a certain extent.
It's like you chose to not do the harder version, but that could have saved you longer.
Like, she took your call.
car shopping. She did not force you to. She took it to like two places, right? Yeah. She just didn't want to go further. She's disabled.
Okay. Go home. Uber. I couldn't Uber. I didn't have any money to Uber with. Well, this is why, again, you should have had a part-time job. I know, but I couldn't get a part-time job. If I couldn't drive there, I lived at least 20 minutes away from anything.
Couldn't work at McDonald's. It was also 20 minutes away from me.
Okay, I hear that. And there was no public transit near me. You can shop for cars online, though. There's always options. I know, but I also had no crap.
so I needed my mom to go with me.
But that has nothing to do with your grandma going with you, does it?
Well, no, because my grandma, they want, my parents works.
My grandma went with me and then they were, like, she told them, like, which cars be found and stuff.
And then they were totally going to meet us.
I was fine with that option.
My parents were not fine with shopping for a car online.
They wanted to see it before we got it.
So they wanted me to get one, like, from a dealership, basically.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, it was either that or get, because,
the other option was to go to Dodge, which is way more expensive, and get a very way expensive car.
I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's on the used car a lot. Private sales also worth looking at, but...
Yeah. There were also, it was also right after COVID. They couldn't borrow someone's car?
I literally had no one to borrow from. My parents both work and they use their cars to work.
Right, but now they weren't willing to one day, the weekend or something. There you go. I told you the further we go down, we could
find it. Come on. They're not working seven days a week. I was taking care of my grandma. She's disabled.
What? That doesn't mean you can't borrow a car? Like I was helping her on the weekends. I wasn't
really working on the weekends. You can take a couple hours. I probably could have. Yes, there you go.
We can always find a solution. That's what happens. And this is, this is like, listen, I know I'm
harping on something that has already happened and you'd think maybe that's not productive.
But the thing is, if we don't correct that mindset now and make it just take the easy solution,
it's right there, you're going to be in this situation for the rest of your life. You're going to be here
forever, and I've seen it time and time again. I need to correct you that if we try to actually
problem itself, fucking whiteboard the shit, dude, figure out the solutions and cross off what
doesn't work, but you usually end up with a couple different options, and we just found it.
Borrow a car on a weekend for a couple hours, maybe for a couple weekends in a row, a few weekends
in a row to try to find the right car. So there we go. That was a little.
That's what I've just learned.
So you purchased this we already went through.
Yeah.
You spent over $1,000 on Legos for him?
No.
It was all that whole week.
No, in total, before, in general?
Oh, probably, yeah.
But that was over three years.
I mean, that's not...
Yeah, but look where you've gotten in over three years.
Put yourself and potentially you guys on a better footing,
because you guys have been together for three years.
Marriage might be in the picture.
Yeah, that's my goal.
Then you have to sacrifice now for it.
Listen, behind every giving action, not, I mean, this sounds weird to say, but there is an
argument to be made by psychologists that, so you'll probably know that.
Yay, me, psychology.
You can probably source what I'm saying, because I forgot where I learned this from, but
I think it was in psychology class, but behind every action of giving, there's still a
of selfishness behind it because it makes you feel good.
Exactly. So you're still doing this kind of for you, even though yes, it is, it makes him
feel good, but you wanted to give that. You love the feeling of giving and you were putting
that before actually setting you and him up for a future together. If marriage is your goal,
you have to sacrifice. Yeah, I mean, that's my love language. It's like giving. And it's
really problematic. It 100% is. But like that's the best way I know how to show.
show people that I care about that.
Eventually soon, hopefully.
I'm guessing, well, I'm not guessing, but if it were me as soon as possible.
And him?
He wants to wait probably another two years until he's completely done to school.
Because he just wants to be done to school, which I mean, I guess that.
So you want to get married today and he doesn't?
Yeah.
It's hard.
Yeah.
How does that make you feel?
It's rough.
Because I feel like I do a lot.
But I mean, he says like, oh, well, I want to get married, but I just have this going on
I just don't want to rush into it or I don't want to go.
I don't want to do it right now, you know.
So it's been a lot.
There's a lot of things I've been like that.
And that might be valid, but also at the same time.
Yeah, we've been together for three years.
Well, not just that.
Are you sure he actually wants to?
Yeah, I think so.
If he's not willing to just go to the courthouse and have a ceremony in two years?
I want to say I'm sure, but there's really nothing I can do to prove it.
Okay.
Is it your finances?
Because I've talked to a lot of couples where it's like they're not willing to get married
because one is finance.
Honestly, I doubt it.
Just not to make him sound horrible,
but he didn't know much about finances, honestly, to begin with,
because his parents never made him deal with it.
They just kind of did it for him.
So I don't think he really understands the extent of how bad it is right now for me.
Is it okay?
Can I call him in the post show and tell him how bad it is?
Yeah, if you want.
I mean, I'm not going to stop him.
I do one.
I do that in the post show.
So it's important in this conversation if we're discussing marriage.
Okay, and all the thousand hours in debt, essentially.
So we got an apple card.
Yeah.
What do we buy in here?
Another iPad?
That was, that's also just, it's just been built up household expenses mostly.
So like public's like food and stuff.
I go through your apple card.
Will I see that?
Yeah.
Only that.
Mostly.
Yeah.
No, I said mostly.
No, I said mostly.
It's mostly that.
Okay.
I will say there's probably some stupid stuff.
Put up then.
Okay.
I have a statement here.
I mean, it's, it's, it's 60% stupid.
Yeah.
Mostly stupid.
What's stupid?
Okay.
Subscription.
Okay.
But what subscriptions?
Because some of them are actually like important.
Premium?
For what?
Where we are?
Oh, YouTube.
Yeah.
I mean, what do you want me to do?
Not have YouTube premium?
Okay, that sounded really bad.
You're having it.
I use it every single day and it's a student discount.
Okay, see, you're immediately pushing the goalpost.
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That was for school.
I think that came back to me at some point.
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That expensive version.
No, but I wasn't trying to get it.
Trust me, that's just one.
They said that I get a subscription from school.
Before you get too excited, that is just one out of like a thousand here.
Domino's pizza.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's bull.
Yeah.
Not going to try to justify that.
Wow, we made it.
We made progress.
I didn't have anything in the freezer.
Our freezer's tiny.
What did you get a Paxon for $65?
That was me replacing, I believe, some pants that got, like that, like ripped or whatever.
And you had no other pants?
No, I did.
Oh, there you go.
Yeah.
Some subscription or Apple pay.
Einstein Bro.
Ain't signed Bros.
Bagels.
Panther.
That's cool.
Surf style.
Surf style.
Yeah.
Einstein bros, HBO Max.
Bullshit.
That was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, non-bulls.
And honestly, if you go into the store and you get a $10 thing, I'm not confident that that is groceries and not just you going and getting.
No, I mean, that's where I work.
When you stop at the, at the square, $10.67 cents?
The square.
Melbourne Square
I generally have known
Minnesota
Miniso M-I-N-I
Oh that was in the mall
That was in the mall
Bullsh-hmm
Yes
Great so it's even more
Yeah
Wonderful
Great
How long have you had this card
You said he just ramped it out
No I've had that one for a while
Over a year
Oh here
Oh
You f***
Lady
There's more pages in this statement
Yes
And it's all
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You went and he got some bullshit.
Winning and got some bullshit.
Japanese restaurant.
Winning got some bullshit.
Winning got some bullshit.
Wampus.
Netflix.
Winning got some bullshit.
Domino's.
Apple bill.
An Uber subscription.
Not just an Uber payment.
Uber subscription.
But we have a car.
We have a car that we pay so much for.
Yeah.
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We have an Uber subscription.
The Barnes & Noble, that's school.
That was not fair.
What?
The Barnes and Noble charge.
Is the school book?
Yeah, it was books.
Okay.
Great, guys.
We made it.
We made it one out of like 30.
Woo!
Everything's justified.
It's all good.
Let's solve right again.
Woo!
There's more here.
Fuck off.
Come on.
Come on.
What are we doing?
Why even put it on the credit card anyway?
Because you're just going to be accruing interest.
I didn't have it in the checking account.
Is it just a interest?
Is it just for a check in the checking account?
Is it interest free right now?
No, it is not.
Oh, for a f***.
I think that's the one of two that are not interested right now.
But the rest of them are.
So stupid.
When they're saying you put a lot of the move on here, like $200 couch, $60 of posters,
reverse osmosis water filter,
toaster oven, steam cleaner, all the cleaning supplies, which that part is fine.
Decor, $200, you do not need, fucking decor.
A mini fridge?
One fridge isn't good enough.
No, because the fridge is tiny and I'm trying to, you know, keep room to not buy food all the time.
What?
Our apartment fridge that came with the apartment is literally tiny.
Great.
I don't care.
Well, I mean, that's the reason.
Go grocery shopping once a week.
I don't give a stop.
Meal prep.
I don't care.
How tiny.
Very small.
Show me how high.
That's fine.
It's a smaller fridge.
We've all had weird small fridges.
It was a fridge and freezer.
Yes, we've all had those before.
In a chief college apartment, this is normal.
Well, that was the reason.
You work at a fucking grocery store.
I do.
Pick up the food on the way home.
I do.
Do you stoop, blah.
Okay.
I do pay.
Okay.
Okay.
Great.
Great.
And we need all the decor and all the posters.
Well, I was my first time moving out.
I mean, I just.
Did not need that to fucking survive.
You're saying you justified at the beginning of this conversation.
This is how you listed at the beginning of the conversation.
I covered all him because his mom, his grandparents can only cover school.
Yeah.
From his 529.
Great. Okay. Maybe there's some sympathy here.
Posters. Had to get it. Had to get the couch.
Had to get all this bullshit.
In the month that we moved. All the posters, all the decor, the steam cleaners, all this stuff.
We had to get. Had to get. We wouldn't survive. We would have gotten evicted if we didn't get this.
Come on. Don't set me up with this, with a sympathy bullshit when it is found out to be bullshit.
It ruins my trust in you for the rest of this conversation.
you're no longer a reliable narrator in your own finances because you tried to mislead i mean that's how
it feels for me feels well i mean that's like in that day yeah you're not in that day yeah i'm aware
now but i this isn't that day either so i mean i'm trying to explain how it felt in that day
you didn't say that now you're just pushing the goalpost again now you're just trying to come on
yes you are you're trying to tell me what actually happened and now i like well
Actually, I was just trying to tell you what I felt like in that day.
Well, I don't know how to describe it.
Huh?
I don't know how I was to describe it.
I mean, that's the best way to describe it.
You could say, I made bad purchases.
They were stupid.
No, you said I had to cover his expenses.
Yeah.
And I've made dumb choices.
Huh?
I said, and I've made dumb choices.
I don't remember that.
I definitely said I've made bad decisions.
But in that context, in that statement, in that statement, in that statement, exactly.
Then I don't give a fuck because all I'm doing is talking about this part.
The part of.
you moving in.
Yeah.
You didn't qualify those at the same time.
They're all a bunch of dumb choices.
Well, there you go.
Say that instead of trying to lead a sympathy play to make you look good out of the gate.
Hey, I just had to cover all his expenses because he just couldn't afford it.
And the grandparents only covering the school thing.
And they said he couldn't work.
So I had to cover this stuff.
Bullshit.
You fucking.
partially true.
Part of it is that.
But barely, it's your own cats.
You cover your half of the stuff.
the groceries, really, it's just the cleaning supplies.
And that could be like $25, $50 a month.
You're in a small college apartment.
That's a cheap.
Stop it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe you have too much of an apartment for being honest.
Okay, but to be fair, I did hunt for apartments for months, and there were like no good
listings.
That was like the best one I could find.
Unfortunately, you've lost your reliability.
Yeah.
I wish I could believe that.
And a part of me does, but unfortunately a part of me doesn't now.
With the car thing, couldn't literally borrow your parents' cars on the weekend,
trying to make the whole financial situation a sympathy play
because I had to cover the boyfriend because he couldn't work.
No.
I didn't say it was all of that.
Come on.
You know how it looked.
You know how you were framing it.
Don't try to rewrite the conversation.
I mean, don't try that.
Don't.
we're not going to get anywhere if you do that
is this how you've talked to everyone ever
have you tried to like manipulate conversations
I don't think so
hmm
okay
certainly hope not
what is this
boyfriend is going to try to pay her back for what she's paid
but a boyfriend has helped her out with car insurance in the past
you didn't even say that
so you helped him out but he's helped you out before
And you didn't even, again, you should have brought that up if you're going to.
I didn't think that was, when was that relevant?
We haven't talked about like that.
We've only talked about this stuff.
Because you brought, again, came into this.
Do you not remember what I just said like a minute ago?
Yeah.
You came into this conversation with the sympathy play of I had to cover him.
This is where you also would say, but he's covered me before.
So, you know, actually we're kind of even.
I never said it was uneven.
I'm just saying that you asked.
No, you did it.
You're right.
You didn't specifically say it wasn't uneven.
But you came in to try to get sympathy.
by saying you covered him.
Okay, but you asked what was on the card.
That's a lot of what was on the card.
What?
The Apple card?
I didn't know the Apple card existed at the beginning.
At the beginning of the conversation.
You asked where all the debt and stuff is coming from?
So I gave you the whole, that was part of it.
Like, that was the whole thing.
But usually in contextual conversations, people would say, but also he's covered my expenses
in the past as well.
So this is kind of, just it makes sense.
That would be relevant at that point at that moment.
Are you not capable of normal conversations?
I mean, sometimes, I guess not.
I don't think about like the whole thing.
I mostly just think about that exact question.
You told the producers you think he owes you $3,000 to $4,000?
Probably.
What have you covered that it's three to four?
Wait.
No, your cats do not count.
No, not three to four thousand.
That's what they wrote down from your conversation with them.
Unless they misheard you.
I don't think it's, I don't think it's three to four thousand.
It's a probably a good amount of money, but I don't think it's three to four thousand.
For what?
Your cats?
No, just.
Your half of groceries?
I'm so confused.
$25 to clean you supplies on a monthly basis.
What is he paying you back for?
All of this stuff.
The Legos?
Does he have to pay you back for the Legos?
No.
Then what the fuck is $3,000 to $4,000?
Because now it's almost putting yourself in an entitlement position.
It's, okay.
I don't know how exactly to describe it.
I have all the receipts and stuff, but like a bunch of the things that we did the weeks or the first month of us living here.
Because his, not.
Just for the furniture?
No, it's for like, oh, well, yeah.
that too.
Okay, well, maybe it could be for the furniture.
It's for part of it.
Does you guys make an agreement that he's going to pay for half?
No, I just know he will.
I mean, out of everything that they added up for the furniture,
it was like a couple thousand bucks, though.
Where are we three to four?
We've only lived together for a year?
Less than a year.
We've been limiting it ever since December.
Then what the fuck.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I don't think that that's what I meant to say.
I genuinely don't.
Okay.
Yeah, there's no way.
Next card.
See what new personality trait we discover in this one.
Freedom.
$1,05.35.
I know I'm being hard and I'm pushing you hard,
but it is important to call out the things you have said,
the way you have established the conversations
and your way of not being able to find a potentially slightly
less convenient way to do things,
but save yourself in the long term.
I need to call them out.
I need to push back.
And I need to call you on your bullshit.
And you push back.
those because you will continue making the same mistakes forever if I do not.
And you're a human that exists in this world.
I cannot have you fucking up forever.
It sucks for you.
I don't want to see someone suffer.
$40 payment on this, $1,05.35 owed.
Oh, for $5.
Well, it looks like the balance is paid off last month, but then you purchase $1,0005.
Yeah.
So what's up with this card?
That's the shared card we used when we moved in.
Who shared?
Shared with who?
The boyfriend.
Not shared.
He's an authorized user.
Oh, God. But you're not married yet. Why are you getting so entangled like this?
Because he had no credit.
Tell him to get an intro credit card.
He did. He actually got a FIS card.
Okay, then all of a sudden, then we realized...
Yeah, I wanted him to start building credit.
Okay, so he got the Fis card. Great. So why the Fis card?
So why the FI did he need to be on this card?
I added him before that.
Why didn't you just have him go get that card first? Okay, it's just...
Because he had no credit to get one.
He could have gotten an intro credit.
card.
If that's what we
care about.
Just the credit card
that everyone
got,
he,
a credit card
that on college campuses,
they have booths
where they're like
sign up for this credit card.
If he really just
needed an intro,
he could have Googled,
Google,
Gopped,
he could have anything.
Well,
I just,
that's what I thought of.
I thought,
oh, I can add him to this.
Okay.
You know.
It's the shortcut angle.
It's that,
it's kind of a repeated
thing in this conversation.
But again,
I do want to cloud.
I feel like it's just a lack of knowledge.
Huh?
I feel like it's just a lack of knowledge.
Yeah,
but lack of knowledge is less of an excuse today than it's been in human civilization.
You have the access to everything at your fingertips.
I know some people are like adamantly anti-AI.
Some people are like woo-oo AI.
But here's the thing.
I mean, with like 4.5 using like the deep research version there, you can learn anything you want to learn.
And you can fact check to confirm that everything's okay and correct.
But just history, stuff that is able to confirm at least throughout history, it's like you can learn anything right now.
can have a scour the internet to find resources for you and knowledge for you.
And then you go learn the resources through the sites that it finds through books.
Google can Bing if you want to get weird.
He uses Bing.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
But the resources.
But you have the resources.
Yes.
The lack of knowledge is a choice at this point.
Now, you don't know what you don't know.
There is that.
But the thing is, once you know you don't know something, which you know you are not
informed on this, you can go learn.
There are shows like this where we teach the basics.
We have our educational classes.
We have a fucking debt.
It's in depth on debt.
In depth on budgeting.
In depth on investing.
In depth on real estate.
Where you can spend hours taking our quizzes.
And I give you everything that we have brought in experts to teach everything.
Everyone would have to know.
There are so many resources out there.
It is not a, I'm 21.
My frontal lobe is not developed.
I never said the front of the world.
You didn't say that.
But a lot of people say that.
But you did say I'm 21.
Well, yeah, I was trying to explain that like I'm 21, but also, I don't know.
I just feel like there's just been so many things that have gone on with me that I just feel like all the time I'm just screwed.
That's not even true, but we can all get down.
No, but I'm not saying like just the money.
I'm saying in general.
No, I know, but that is not true.
You're in a position where you're in college.
You live with your boyfriend.
You're potentially going to get married.
So far, I mean, yes, we've looked at lots of different debts, but we're at 4,000 hours of debt.
that is too much of your, two months of your income, unless something gets absolutely insanely
worse, no, you're not in the worst position.
You're in a position where you're doing stupid things, like the spring break and justifying
it because of someone else's birthday.
It's just like, you're not in the worst.
It is easy to feel down ourselves and talk to the therapist about that as well.
And it is easy to get into that spiral.
But you got to bust out of it.
You got to start putting an effort.
Again, just building out of budget, man, and our budgeting half, literally just
building out a budget, at least you know where your money's going and you can start
correcting things on a monthly basis. It's all automated. It's like so many tools now where yes,
you can feel down, but there are easy steps you can take to start breaking that cycle.
I'm not like trying to use it as an excuse, but I do have ADHD and I do have anxiety.
So like when things come up, I have a panic disorder. Listen, and that everyone in the world has ADHD,
it feels like. It's really annoying. But it's when things like come up, because I got diagnosed really
late because a lot of women do get diagnosed really late. So when things come up, they just feel
really stressful in that exact moment. And I just try to find the fastest way to handle it. And you have to
learn coping mechanisms. I do. But that's the reasoning for a lot of the choices is I'm like,
oh, well, this needs to get handled now. But you're still making those choices now. Yes. I'm going to push back.
Yeah, I know. I'm going to push back. You are still making those choices now. Look at you.
You are speaking educatedly about your own decisions, meaning you know they are going on.
meaning it is your choice to not seek to help to develop those coping mechanisms of the results that you're doing.
Meaning when those results of your actions are happening, it is your fault still.
And ADHD is not a, you do.
Yeah.
Like I don't have the time to go and see somebody about it just because I'm still trying to work.
And with your degree and everything, student loans might be a valid return on investment for you versus working 40 hours a week.
It might not make sense for you to work 40 hours a week.
And that is okay.
This is not Dave Ramsey.
You have to go to college completely paid for.
You can get a good return on investment if we do this correctly.
You know, you already did the associate degree in community college?
Yes.
See, you already done it like the right way.
Yeah.
That part, if we borrow a little and work 20 hours a week, that is okay.
Yeah.
But also, you just went and spent $1,000 on FLEGOs.
Like, it is not the fact that you are working.
There are actions here as well as you were putting yourself in a hole where you're now forced to work because you have minimum fee payments.
Yeah, because I saw Ushiny.
Because you saw an Ushiny.
Yeah.
I mean, that is literally the reason.
Well, it looks like this card's 0% intro.
Yes.
Now, you said this place was steps from the water.
We just haven't found the steps yet.
How much did we save?
Enough.
Enough to get lost.
Or you could book a stay with Hilton.
Welcome to your ocean front room.
Just steps from the water.
The Hilton sale is on now.
Book on Hilton.com.
or the Hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected.
When you want savings, not surprises.
It matters where you stay.
Hilton, for the stay.
Brocaries or bull-
It's hard to tell.
Quest Diagnostics.
Yeah, got to make sure you don't got them STDs, STIs.
I got it.
I got it.
You got to be safe.
You got a car wash.
I mean, it's Florida.
No, I wash my, I try to take really good care of my car
just to keep it, like, obviously, worth something.
because I don't want it to be like bad because my car is white too.
But you're not near the beach.
You're not getting salted and not dust.
Our water has pure sulfur in it.
Like the sprinklers that go off.
The water, the sprinklers in my apartment, they're purely sulfur and it leaves.
And you park on the sprinkler?
I have no choice.
All the parking is surrounded by the sprinklers.
Okay.
And it's really, really bad.
A suggestion.
Yes.
I have one gallon bucket.
There's no houses.
No, fill it up in your sink.
Oh.
My gosh.
And walk it down the stairs.
Yeah.
Fill up a one.
I did cancel that.
I actually did cancel.
It was a subscription?
Yes, it was.
I didn't realize it was a subscription.
And then I was like, I got my, I will say I did get my washes out of it, though.
Once I realized it was a subscription, I got a crap ton of washes out of it.
Because you could pay for, I think what happened was they told me, like, you could pay for the one wash or you could pay that exact amount for the one wash.
Yeah, I mean, they coax you into it.
I get it.
Yeah.
Do you have to pay this off by?
June, I believe.
Oh, no, not June.
Is it?
I think it is June.
I can't find a date for some reason.
And it was on there.
I believe it should have been.
June 14th?
Yes.
That's what I'm being told.
Fuck me.
Okay, so we have to put
$1,0005.30...
1005.35.
One second.
One second.
Sorry.
I mean...
It's essentially, you got to put
$510 to it on a monthly basis.
Can I throw something in?
Is it good or bad?
It's not horrible when I was...
So what is this freestyle watches?
That's this bullshit.
I got...
Sorry, I sold my other...
My Apple watch that I had.
I sold it because I wasn't using it.
I sold it to my sister.
I got this one with the same amount.
Do you need a watch?
At work?
Yeah, I do.
Because there's like no clocks anywhere and I have to be on time everywhere.
You can't check your phone like that.
I mean, just to see...
I can.
It's just I'm really bad at it.
And a lot of my work pants don't have pockets
because women's work pants suck because we have no pockets.
So I end up leaving my phone in the office instead.
And they don't want us on it all the time anyway.
So it's also a very big appearance thing for my work.
It's not the biggest thing.
It's just the stacking up of things.
But that 100% is a my company's appearance thing.
And unfortunately at the grocery store,
I cannot assume that every purchase is 100% necessary because you work there.
You might be grabbing like energy drinks.
I do bring energy drinks with me.
I do not buy them at work.
That is a good start, but you can be buying snacks.
You know, things you don't need that you pass.
now?
Yeah, I mean, it's really hard because of the Bogos.
Because of the what?
Bogos, buy and get ones.
That's my store's big thing.
Yeah.
I'm being honest.
Also, can I throw that thing in there, please?
Sorry, for the Chase Freedom Limited, I was planning on paying that off with my tax
return because I put aside extra withholding.
I always put aside extra withholding, which I know is not the best way to save, but it forces
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Okay.
I was just, and that got delayed because my dad got pulled into extra work, so he's almost working.
Do you know how much you're getting for a refund?
Last year, putting aside less than I did this year, I got almost two grand.
I think it was two grand, so probably a little more than that, hopefully.
Huh?
Last year?
This year.
You said you put aside less last year.
Why would you put aside more this year?
Because I was part-time.
So, like, as of this year, I started putting aside more.
On purpose?
Yeah.
You really don't want to get anything back.
I know.
It's just, my grandma always told me to it because it's like a force-s-hating account.
I know.
Yeah, but she's my grandma.
So I was a good I'm not listen to her.
Well, yeah, but it was your grandma.
Yeah, I would tell her she's wrong.
I do not have the guts to do that.
Well, you can also just not do it.
Just don't have a conversation about it.
No, she had,
been asking for my like she needs to get it the fuck out of your life because she's being weird no i love
my grandma yeah but she needs to get the fuck out of this kind of stuff the car situation yeah and this
for savings sure if you're literally incapable of existing buddy set up automatic transfers to
savings i did that now government's not giving you a high-ield savings while that thousands are
sitting there and honestly i'm just i'm concerned based on the habits we've seen here the language
which we've used the conversation we've had.
It's like, okay, yeah, you might get a couple thousand bucks.
It can help you pay off this card and one other card.
Yeah.
But you'll just balloon them back up.
Because if you don't, this is like a consolidation.
It's like a bankruptcy.
It's like a balance transfer.
If you don't change the behavior before you just wipe it.
Yeah.
And you go right back in because it's not like you're closing the cards anyway.
And there's not a single card with a zero dollar balance on here.
Unfortunately, I thought there was.
F*** me.
Okay.
You're right.
So.
At least I've never missed a payment.
I know that's not a lot, but...
Yeah, but I've also heard probably 20 people say that, and then I find out that they have.
I've actually never missed a payment on that either.
I really hope so.
I can pinky promise you.
I've never missed a payment on anything.
We don't need to touch skin, but I really hope so.
No, but I can pinky promise that.
Okay, I hope so.
Amazon card.
Okay, it's weird.
You paid a good amount, but then you purchased on it.
There's a balance.
It's a small balance.
It's like, I don't understand why we keep it.
$103 and $9.
$0.97. Yeah. I try not to spend too much on that one, obviously, because it's not in an intro period or anything.
Okay, so your Amazon card. Pull up your Amazon account. Okay.
Launchery. Okay, that's fine. Slim case for iPad.
Okay, well, I wasn't going to break the expensive thing.
Other reason to spend money. Yeah, but you spent money to spend money.
Yes. But I get it. Well, yeah, but I mean, also, I didn't want to break the new iPad. Like, I didn't want it to just immediately be worthless, so.
Yeah, but also maybe don't get a fucking a pad. You tit.
expensive vacuum. You do not need that right now. No, no, no, no. I have, oh my, I'm sorry. I know it's going to sound bad. I have really horrible allergies and the carpets in my apartment suck. Yeah, but you get a vacuum. That's not a thousand trillion dollars. That is a nice vacuum. That is what I have. That is a nice vacuum. If you look up a vacuum right now, they're all going to be way more than that. They're going to be very expensive. That one was not that much. It was like $100. Oh, maybe this isn't the one I have. I was about to say. I was like, I literally picked one of the cheaper ones. Okay, 200. It was on sale. I bought it on. I bought it on. I. I bought it on. I. I was on. I was on. I was on. I was about it. I was on. I was on. I was
on sale.
That's the only reason I got it was because it was on sale.
You got it for 130.
That's close.
It's close.
Carpet thing for the cat.
It looks like more cat stuff.
Air purifier.
More cat stuff.
Blue Via?
That's the water filter.
Okay, our water is horrible.
You can look out of there.
Congratulations.
Get a Britta.
We did, but it says that all it does is filter for taste.
It doesn't actually filter anything.
out. Who says that? The Brita
filter. If you look on the packaging,
there's literally a whole label that
says that it only filters odor and taste. It doesn't
actually filter anything. And then we're back to
the, to the
sud stuff. Dual chamber
composting. Yeah,
we compost. Don't.
That's good for the environment.
It is. You just can't afford it.
Well, yeah, we don't pay anything for it now.
You got to buy the composter, dude.
Well, yeah. The thing is, listen,
I will allow a justification of the case.
I will allow justification of the composer.
I will allow a justification of blah, blah, blah.
But the thing is, all of a sudden with your conversation
is becoming justified, justified, justified, justify, justify,
and this justified is stacking up so much
to where you can't afford it, meaning it is no longer justified.
We can justify a couple things here and there,
but your justifications are so much on a monthly basis
that it no longer works.
Peppermint bullshit.
I mean, this is fucking stupid, dude.
This is so much buying.
You're getting so much.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
Oh, four things in your car.
Let's see.
More pants.
No.
My boss literally two days ago told me that the pants that I'd been wearing to work are not in uniform.
More blue villa fucking filters because that's a forever investment.
Yeah.
Child safety cabinet locks.
Oh, our freezer, the door does not stay closed all the way.
Tell the landlord.
We did.
They said there's nothing they can do about it.
Report it.
I did.
To the state?
Oh, no, I did not do that.
I thought you meant to report to them.
Well, I would just chat on.
line and see if that's legal or not.
Okay.
The f***ed shower head?
I'm not buying that.
I was not buying it.
No, I was just looking at it.
I just wanted to read it.
But then I was looking at it and I didn't want to lose it.
Going into your settings.
Okay.
You have the Sea World app, please for fuck sake.
That was only for that day.
I did not buy it.
I certainly hope.
Yeah.
I don't even, we don't even go off.
Looking at the subscriptions.
Oh my.
Yeah.
Expense.
of AppleCare.
Apple music, cozy gold,
Duolingo, ICloud Plus,
Lifesum Premium,
lightroom photo and video,
50 bucks.
All that you, 30 bucks,
40 bucks, dual legal, huge,
structure.
It's one button.
Which one?
Any of them.
You can cancel all of them
with one button right here.
So shut the fuck if you try.
No, it says that I cancel.
Lightroom,
structured daily planner.
Oh my fuck,
use the notes app or something.
Yuka.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
even half of these. What is Lifesum and Yucca? LifeSum tracks your calories and your intake and stuff
every day. You can do that. You can do that on the My Fitness app for free. No, you have to have a
subscription for My Fitness. To track the calories? You have to have a subscription to use the fitness app.
What? I didn't. Yeah. If you go into the Apple thing, it'll tell you you have to have a subscription
I use that right now and I don't think I do. I don't know. They gave it to me. They tried to use
for free. That's for that tells you. Life sum.
Or what's the other one?
The yucca.
That you didn't say.
Yeah.
That's, it tells you like what, it breaks down what ingredients are in each product to tell you if it's safe or not.
That's because I have really bad problems with my hormones.
So it tells me if things are endocrine deceptors or not.
Oh, boy.
I feel like that's reasonable.
It's reasonable.
I just wonder if you're going to make it to like 60.
Why?
Because.
No, it just seems very broken.
Oh, yeah.
No, I have a lot of problems.
I'm not even going to lie about that.
Okay.
City double cash.
Yes.
that is only balance transfers.
Oh, apparently the Amazon card's actually at $300 now.
Great.
Yeah.
Let's re-we're going back $300 to the Amazon card.
Minimity payment.
Probably still like $35.
Okay.
City double cash.
Another $1,465 to $75 to $75.
Holy cuts of a thousand death by a thousand cuts, dude.
Yeah.
So, like, none of these balances are absolutely insane, but it's...
What?
What is this card?
It's only...
balance transfers. Oh, you balance transfer? I was wondering what the fee was. It was zero. It was zero APR on that for 12 months. Yeah, but that's just a deferment. It's you. You think you make progress psychologically so you don't cut back. And we already saw you spent four times what you brought in. Yeah. So it's like you obviously psychologically feel like you're making progress with this and it's not working for you. Okay, $41 minimum fee payment. Yeah, there's your $40 fee, transfer fee. I was like, got very nervous seeing that fee. I was like, did she? No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not.
Okay. And yes, it is until October.
Yes.
That one I did know.
1465.75.
October is, you'll have about five-ish months.
Five payments you can make with it for being safe.
Okay, so $293.15 a month.
So you need to pay this off.
That's a chunky one.
That is a chunky one.
Okay, what do we have here?
Okay, amount finance, $3,960.
Finance charge $1,752.
What the fuck?
The interest rates 25.53.
What is this?
Is that, I think that's the loan.
That's the-
It's a loan, yes.
For what?
It was a personal loan.
I paid off all of the cards that I had,
and then I ended up spending on that again.
How that work?
Not well.
No, yeah.
So we're doing it again with balance transfers and using our IRS money.
The balance transfer was before that.
I'm just saying.
Great.
So we really didn't make our fucking...
I thought that it was going to help me consolidate.
And again, you spent four times that you made.
Yeah.
I thought it was going to help me consolidate.
So it's like you still haven't learned your lesson today.
Where we are today, you have not learned your lesson.
Today.
I just thought it was going to help me consolidate it.
Did you take this out?
December.
So right after...
This last December?
Oh, fucking shit.
Okay.
So the balance is still basically, it's going to be like $4,000.
And you're going to pay a total of like $6,000.
Or the history of it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Loan, Great, Gonzalez, stupid fucking dacian.
Yep.
158.67 a month?
Yes.
Oh, boy, it's going to take forever to pay off.
158.67.
I think it's a three-year loan, as far as I'm aware.
What?
They told me you took out the loan for moving expenses.
Well, I was paid.
Well, no, I paid off the cards that I had, and then I used those cards for moving expenses.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
Like, what moving expenses did you possibly have?
My truck and trailer to move.
Moving what?
All my stuff.
How much stuff did you have?
My sister, I got my family's bed set.
When I moved down here in Austin, Texas, I, it was two seats in my sedan.
Yeah, no, I had a lot of things.
Get rid of it!
Well, I can't get rid of, like, my pets and my tanks that I had.
I moved with a cat down here.
Well, yeah, but cats are a lot different than turtles.
I had two turtles and two separate tanks.
You can't afford them.
Well, I didn't know that at the time.
Then you shouldn't get them.
Your parents shouldn't have allowed you to get them.
Then your parents shouldn't have allowed you to get them.
My parents are broke too, so.
Also, they're stupid?
No.
Financially?
No.
Yes.
I have no idea, honestly.
They're broke, so they're probably stupid financially.
Except for a few rare circumstances, in the vast majority of time, if you're in like your 50s and you broke, a lot of that was true.
a lot. There are situations where it's not 100%,
but a lot of it, so we can assume financially. So they would probably be stupid.
Oh, trust me.
People, honestly, even the brokest of people are the ones that work hard because they get
work the hardest because they get themselves in the worst situations ever out of their
horrible actions in mismanagement of money that they're forced to work hard.
Then they do things they don't even want to do longer than they want to do.
Yeah. I mean, that's where the, before I moved, that's why the cards were so high.
That's why I got the loan to pay them off.
was because I was trying to help my parents out to not pay for their stuff,
but like pay for anything that was for me.
You can't do that. It's not your job.
Well, I'm aware of that now, but at the time, I mean,
they didn't ask me to do or anything.
No, no, no, no.
I was just trying to make their lives easier because I saw how hard they were.
I appreciate the heart of it.
I know.
It's destroying your life.
Like, they had, I'm the youngest to five kids.
Did it really shouldn't be you?
And they started having kids when they were young, obviously.
You know?
My parents, I don't know.
No, but it's like, they tried to go to college.
And then they couldn't afford college because obviously college is expensive.
And so my mom got a full-time job and my dad works full-time.
He's working in like it's like construction, but I don't want to make it sound difficult.
But it's basically like a construction job with plumbing.
And so he works outside a lot of the time all day.
And it's like I see.
Exactly.
And it scares me really bad.
And I see how hard he works.
So I was just trying to like.
But you putting things on credit cards without them changing the behavior that got them there in the first place is one enabling them.
And then to try.
My mom was at a day.
She tries hard.
Huh?
My mom works at a bank.
I mean, she tries hard to pay things off.
She works at a bank.
No, I mean, she knows what she's doing.
It just, it feels like we constantly get screwed.
You don't have to work at a bank to know what you're doing, trust me.
We got foreclosed on in Miami, and that's where a lot of it came from.
Yeah.
I don't really know how else to describe that.
I'm just saying if I sat down with them.
Yeah.
The trying.
I bet two things happened from what you did.
Three things.
One, you had a good heart, and I appreciate that.
Oh.
Cool.
Number two.
Yeah.
Number three.
Probably just enabled their behavior that they got them there in the first place.
You based on everything I've seen on the show, that is likely what happened.
Yeah.
Well, the car payment is a lot of what's...
So you had a trailer and all this stuff for moving?
Yeah.
Fuck, dude, for turtles and bullshit.
Yeah.
The fuck the dude.
And that costs thousands?
No, I wouldn't say thousands.
I mean, that was just like all of it.
How much did it cost?
The trailer was probably about 300 for...
just like to move up here
and then I had to pay for rent
and stuff but I didn't have anything
put aside so I paid rent
the first month of rent was like basically
on me because my boyfriend
his stuff didn't start until he was in
classes which was in January not December
so I had to pay for the first month
does it does
I mean I don't know to describe it
no it does yeah that part's fine
yeah but that's where like
a good amount of it came from
was that and everything just being built up for
so long because I also put...
But you're not working there?
Where in Gainesville? I was, but it was part-time
because I was also helping take care of my
grandma. Who's thinking care of your grandma now?
My parents, when they come home.
Otherwise, she's just home alone.
Yeah, but what about when they're not home?
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She's not,
I mean, she can still do things.
That means you could have worked more.
Sorry,
I'm a natural pushbacker.
No, I wanted to, but it was my grandma asking me not to, like asking me to help her.
Really?
Well, she was asking me to stay and help her.
I mean.
That's so hard.
I know. It's so hard. But at a certain point, it also is just like, I never want to be in a position if I have kids that I am delaying them from actually being able to live their best life. And then I delayed them from starting their life for a decade.
I mean, it delayed me from starting school until the spring. Yeah, it was supposed to start in the fall. But I stayed because she was not okay.
I'm not against the heart of it. It's just the, it's just the. It's just like there's been a lot of things that have happened with my family and that have made it feel very stupid.
It's 4,500 that you all currently.
It's going to go much higher.
Personal loan.
Oh, yeah.
That I knew.
I also had, there's also, I don't know if it's in there anywhere.
Yeah, but this is separate.
There's also probably some medical debt somewhere, not in here, because I can't find it.
But I had knee surgery at 19 or 18.
What happened?
We have no idea.
It's not fixed.
The surgery didn't fix it.
Okay.
But my knee dislocates on its own.
What you did?
Just like pop it in?
I know how it works.
I literally just force it back into place.
but I was going...
Can I see?
My mom has a video of it somewhere.
Okay.
We'll do that in the post show.
Yeah, I was going to say, I can find it.
Okay, so student loans, let's talk about that in a second.
Let's go with what's here.
Student loans, again, I'm okay with you, bar and more.
What's the intro salary for the position you're trying to get?
I don't know the...
What's the position you're trying to get?
Any psychology, so therapist, anything like that, and they start around...
Yeah, but you're going to need more than just a bachelor for therapy.
No, because I can get the certification, which allows me to go.
Yeah, which allows me to go right into it.
So basically, I can start out at $60,000 if I get that right away.
Okay.
And then it gets more with experience.
I'm not saying to do this, but by the student loan rules, you can technically borrow $60,000.
Yeah.
In low interest federal student loans.
See, I was going to.
But because my mom started to make more, which she really didn't, it was just to cover the COVID relief, they pulled my funding.
So I couldn't get any funding for school.
So a lot of, like, there's a bunch of, like, there's a bunch of, like, random.
random school purchases.
That's because my loan isn't there.
I tried to un-subsidized federal.
I tried to do unsubsicized and they said that I was not eligible for it.
What does she make?
I have no idea offhand.
But that's why this year, that's going to, so this semester, this upcoming semester or year or whatever, that's going to change.
Because I'm considered independent now.
There you go.
So have you applied?
Yes, I did.
I just have to wait for this semester's grades to post before they tell me.
But I did apply.
That's not bad for being two years then.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
So far.
It's the good so-fi.
It's the good so-fi.
Okay, so if I check in account
So that's all your debt
You said you have some medical debt?
How big though?
Probably.
I genuinely would not know what to tell you.
My mom did it.
Well, if it's small, it's not going to show up on your credit.
Okay, cool.
But that's the only other thing I would know of.
If it's large, it's going to take a bit to show up on your credit, but then it will.
My car is also debt.
I don't know if that's where that is.
Did I have that document?
You didn't go through it yet, but
Oh, I think the problem was that the car is in my mom's name.
No, it's in, I'm the secondary on it.
But I didn't have any credit.
23 and change I believe yes oh yeah no fucking what's the interest rate 5% I believe
okay that's not horrible that's an insane balance for something making $2,000 a month yeah I hate it
that I genuine that's the one thing I can't even argue with you on because I hate that
you can't argue with me on any of this honestly no but I genuinely did not want to pay that
it's a 2019 Chevy Colorado they haven't even heard of that it's worth $12,000 it's a mid-sized
truck it's worth $12,000
The dealership told me it was worth $17.5.
When?
Right before I moved.
It was worth $12,626 median.
Okay.
Private party, which is usually higher than dealerships.
That makes, all right.
I mean, I believe you.
I just, I checked it.
Even if it's 17, you're down five.
Yeah, I know.
No, I hate that fact.
Because I tried to go in and trade it in for something cheaper and it would have put me in more debt.
So I didn't do that because the car was worth for us.
Well, you're underwater.
Yeah.
Miner monthly payment?
Five fifteen.
Yeah.
It's horrible.
For how long?
I think another two years.
It was five years.
It was five years.
It's been three years and you still owe 23?
No, wait.
It's been two years.
Two full years.
Three more years.
Three more years.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Okay.
Almost two thousand are checking the count.
That is not bad.
But it is up from 44 when you started.
So I feel like we're in just that part before you go down again to where you were.
Probably.
And you went in and got some bullshit.
Went in got some bullshit.
Bullshit.
Dirty Dogs car wash
B S. B S.
I told you about the car wash thing.
That was a sufficient.
But there's two.
Yeah,
because I had the credit card
and then that checking account.
There should not be another one on the credit card.
There is.
Great.
That's what we were looking at earlier.
Awesome.
Yeah.
First watch.
Oh,
that one is my boyfriend's car.
Sorry.
The checking account.
Why is it on your checking account?
Because we share that checking account.
You share with a boyfriend.
Yes.
Don't.
Separate.
Okay.
Skims.
B.S.
Always walking out of the grocery store or something of like $4.
That I hate.
This I hate.
Savings went down from $5,500 to $1,300.
What happened?
That is because my...
What are skins even?
It's for bras and stuff.
It's not expensive.
It is expensive, though.
Are there Amazon Basics bras?
Yeah, but they all suck and they wear out really fast.
So I just assumed it was better to get the one.
I thought we were all free in the nip anyway.
I do.
Look at me.
I can't at work, though.
That's the problem.
I would, totally, but I can't at work.
The thing with that, that money partially was not mine.
It was strictly school.
That was savings for school.
From who?
Like family from a long time ago.
And then I had it in there.
So that was not like my money.
Does that make sense?
It was just sitting in there because that savings account had a better interest rate
than my original.
savings account. So I just had it in there because I felt like it was better to keep it there.
Yeah. Where to go?
To school. It went to tuition. 100% went to tuition. My tuition was like at least nine grand or something like that.
I only got like a thousand in there. Yeah. Another ticket account 300 bucks and they started with
195. It looks like the payroll coming in. Yeah. Part of my paycheck goes there for my car because my mom
pays it. In the savings account for that. Oh, Publix 401K? And that's going to go up because I got full time.
won pretty good. Are you only taking the match?
I think so, yes. Only take the match.
Yes. I don't know what the match is, but only take it.
Do you know what the match is? No, I do not, because I just started that.
Like, I just started changing it because I got full time. So I could, I only had one option
when I was part time. And it was, hey, do this. Don't look at the market.
You know, no, I don't. It's a percentage of my check and I can choose the percentage.
I think right now it's at like 10 or something. But I, I have no idea about retirement stuff.
Let's get you a budget.
Okay.
Total income $2,000.
What's your portion of rent?
About 800.
Fuck me.
I know.
Too expensive.
If I go on Zillow right now, I cannot find a place cheaper.
Probably not.
What happens if I prove you wrong?
I mean, I'm in a lease, so there's really nothing I can do about it.
Well, not have gone into at least you said you were looking forever, but also we can potentially get out.
But either way.
Why isn't recently sold?
I don't care about that.
No, on the coast?
No. Well, kind of.
We're 10 minutes from the beach, but we're not like on the water.
Oh, for fuck sake.
The college is right there, I mean, it's kind of...
No, I'm just saying, for fucking spring break, you're already where everyone goes.
Yeah.
You're right, it is going to be probably expensive.
You said, fucking Orlando.
Yeah, I said near Orlando.
What do you pay for your too bad?
The total is 170791, I believe, every month.
Okay.
But then we split that.
17, you said?
Yeah, 17.
So let's just say, you.
Okay, I have 75 rentals available for 1,400 or less.
Is that including any utilities or anything?
Some, I'm sure.
Lots of $1,200 ones, lots of $1,200 apartments.
Lots of $1,200 apartments.
And it's one bedroom.
You guys already sleep together.
It's okay.
Utilities, how much?
About less than $50.
Because it's the only one.
So utilities aren't included anywhere.
Internet, how much?
We don't pay for Internet.
It's included.
Gas, room, room, drive, drive for you.
Maybe $40
every two weeks?
Two weeks.
Okay, so 80.
Okay.
Car insurance.
On a month, I pay every six months.
How much every six months?
Around $900, I believe.
It went up because I moved, which I don't understand why.
$150 a month.
Phone bill.
I don't pay for that.
You do use helium if T-Mobile service is good in your area.
I was planning of it.
I was planning to.
I'm going to do your minimum payments and not what you should put towards those
two zero percenters to pay it off.
Obviously, no payments on the student loans now, but the car really.
90567 is owed on a monthly basis.
I mean, you're already over.
So it's like a TP fund, you can do 100.
You can do 300 of groceries.
Again, use the cookbook.
Okay?
Comes with the premium version of the budgeting app.
And you can get a physical version signed.
If you sign up for the annual version, I'll mail it to you.
Medical on a monthly basis.
I know you're broken.
How much?
60 for meds, I believe.
Not bad.
Jim?
Don't.
I don't need it.
I have no subscriptions.
How many cats?
Two.
Health and age?
Both five and they're both healthy.
Get pet insurance on budgeting 60 bucks.
Okay.
You're $500 under.
$511.
$67 cents under.
Under like what I make?
Okay.
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Rare case, but you only have two years
to go. Yeah. Student loans
borrow. Try not to go over
20, what's your semester cost? What? What's your semester cost?
Last semester was nine out of pocket because I had scholarships.
Because I had scholarships.
And I get to keep the scholarships.
So this semester I'm in.
You're in your first semester.
Yeah.
Three more to go?
At this college.
Mm-hmm.
At least.
Yeah.
Okay.
27,000.
I'm okay with that.
Borrow that.
Okay.
For student loans.
No more out-of-pocket expenses.
Everything you have is going to life expenses.
Okay.
But you're still under.
You guys need to downgrade your apartment when you can.
I'm planning on that, actually.
Well, I plan on go talking to your office and ask if you can get out.
Okay.
If it's expensive to break, then don't.
But that's a conversation you're going to have tomorrow.
We had to get the iPad.
We had to get all this bullshit.
Return the iPad.
Yes.
When did you buy it?
Like a little under a month ago.
I think Best Buy is two weeks.
Go cry.
Okay.
Go cry to them.
We know you can do it.
Hey, that's not fair.
I'm kidding.
Just go into Best Buy.
I think they have a two-week return policy.
Beg, beg, beg, beg, beg.
We can't afford life.
Which is true.
Which is true.
Let's just get rid of the minimum of payment.
Any minimum of payment we can just strip away the better.
At least that one's zero APR.
If you can actually sell your car for $17,000, sell your car for $17,000.
To anybody
To borrow 500 private sale preferably
Okay
Borrow 6
It's going to be hard
You can borrow the 6,000 hours
And then you can pay it off personal loan
And then get a 10,000 hour car loan for a 10,000 hour car
That brings you down to 16,000 hours
That's less debt to pay off
But I bet your minimum fee payments are going to be pretty similar
With both those loans combined
So that doesn't save you on the monthly basis
I would still do that
But I'm trying to figure how to get you there on a monthly base
I did try to do the whole
You might do a part of student loans for living expenses
but you do not have one single cent of going out to eat or fun or anything.
No more Legos, no nothing.
I don't know how you've survived that at this point.
I did tell him we can't do it anymore.
In the summer, are you working or are you?
Working. No, I'm absolutely working.
Then you are killing yourself in the summer.
You were going 80 hours a week.
80 hours a week, realistically 60 hours.
But just go hard.
The hardest you can push you to you.
your limit so that you can save up enough to funnel your living expenses for the next school year.
And that gets us even.
Is that with work?
Is that with going to school in the summer too?
Because I'm also going to school in the summer.
Sorry.
I said school or work.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No.
I'm,
How much school?
Full time still.
Why?
If you're doing three more semesters.
Because I'm also doing the minor.
So I'm trying to get them all done.
And you have to.
Well, we have to pay for that too, though.
I think this summer is cheaper, though.
I didn't calculate that into the student loans.
Listen, you might borrow about $40,000 to go to school.
I'm okay with that as long as you actually finish this,
kill it and get into a good paying $60,000 intro career
and move your way up from there.
If that's actually the intro, if it's less than that,
then you can not borrow this much.
Maybe you're borrowing $40,000,
and some of that is subsidizing your lifestyle,
but you're going to work your ass off in the summer as well.
Yeah.
If you ever need an extra,
there's nothing for psychologists.
but I can always, of course,
gift you a course career certification.
Yeah.
Just maybe your boyfriend.
I don't know.
Honestly,
that would be great for him.
Yeah, we can do that.
Yeah, I mean, work as much as you can.
You're going to be in a deficit.
It's okay to federal student loan borrow some of it.
What happens if they do the same thing they tried to do last year and they don't give it to me?
Like, they don't let me take.
Well, you said your status is different.
I hope,
I mean,
I hope they give it to me,
but Florida student loans right now are really stupid.
All the time.
I'm constantly doing that.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, if that happens, then we can have a conversation.
We can go from there.
But I'm going off the assumption that you can.
I've just already put a lot into the school, so I don't want to, like, give up on it.
I'm not saying you can give up either, but if you have to take one year to save up for the next two years of living expenses, like, that's not going to be the worst.
Like, I'm okay with you starting this career, 23.
I had even considered doing that, but I had already pushed my application back, and they told me they weren't going to let me.
Now that you're in, ask if you can take a year off.
Yeah, like a gap.
So they just say I need to do it to save up some money.
And if you start your career at 24, that's not a bad thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
So there's a lot of options here, okay?
Also, that's what you need to start doing.
If anything with, if anything with like that doesn't work out, the store I work for, the managers make at least $100,000 a year.
So I could always move out.
But that's going to demand a lot of your time, which takes away from school.
And it's not going to be as flexible.
I'm saying like if the school thing doesn't work out.
Oh, if I can't.
Yeah.
I mean, I still have, I have two options for good career.
Yeah, like, I'm not like stuck at nothing, you know.
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Debt.
it's really not the worst of day
you're just being very stupid with it the car is dumb
but it's gonna get two out of ten the car brings it down pretty hard
emergency phone one out of ten because that's all you got really there
retirement
for your income and where you actually are
your retirement for your age is quite good
I'm gonna give that a
I'm so excited for that one
seven out of ten
real estate zero out of ten
and that's not expected at this age
so it's gonna be
not too shabby
because you did stock up a good starting retirement.
So two out of ten, not bad for 21.
While in college and being in debt, that is not that bad of a score.
Yay.
I'm going to Norway.
You tib-you don't have enough money.
Two vacations?
Why possibly?
What?
Because it's my family's vacation.
I don't give a f***.
They can pay for it then.
Call your boyfriend.
Put them on speakerphone.
I have to tell you all of my debt.
How much do you think your girlfriend, Sabrina's debt is?
5,000?
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