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Episode Date: April 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:51 What are you talking about? And I'm also only 21. Are you fucking like actually stupid? Next you're going to pull out the, oh, but my frontal lobes not fully developed until 25. That's how I work. The sympathy bull's shit when it is found out to be bullshund. It ruins my trust in you for the rest of this conversation. Download my budgeting app today and take control of your money once and for all.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And for a limited time only, sign up for the annual version of premium and get my cookbook and notebooks signed and mailed directly to you. Link in the description and pin comment below. Hi, my name is Sabrina. I'm 21 years old. I'm from Melbourne, Florida, and you're watching Financial Audit. Thanks for coming up from Florida. So many Florida people. Okay. What do you do for a living there?
Starting point is 00:01:35 I am a meat clerk, so I work in the meat department at a grocery store. Cool. We've had a few people like that on the show. What do you make? It's never been a lot. No, I just got promoted to full-time. So I was making 15-25 and then 16-50, and then I just got 17-25 an hour. What metro is Melbourne in?
Starting point is 00:01:53 Sorry? What metro is Melbourne in? Because I don't know what-area of living. Oh, like how much is it? It's a lot. It's expensive. What metro is it in? Like Tampa.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Oh, sorry. It's near Orlando. So it's like an hour south of Orlando. So it's kind of an expensive area. And your hourly is at 16 what? Now it's 1725. Well, 1725. Okay, how many hours a week do you work?
Starting point is 00:02:11 40. It's full time. Good. How much hits your account then? What are we expecting to hit your account? So about $500 a paycheck and I get paid weekly. So it's around there. A little bit goes into a different account to pay my mom from my car payment.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So $2,000 hits your account a monthly basis. Yeah. to survive. Yeah. Is that all that's going on? 21. That's a, I haven't had someone 21 in a while,
Starting point is 00:02:35 so it's actually kind of young. You could be in school. You could be just working. You could be career. We could be just starting out. Post college? Like, what's going on? It's such an interesting age.
Starting point is 00:02:46 So I am still going to school. So I moved to Melbourne to go to school. So I'm at Florida. Really? But you're doing 40 hours a week? Oh, part-time school? Yeah. No, it's full-time school.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I'm doing both. That's okay. That's a lot. It is a lot. I do, I work Monday. Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then school Tuesday, Thursday. There's too many pieces of paper in here
Starting point is 00:03:03 for a college student at 21 years old. It's not that bad. I mean, definitely could be worse. I'm curious. I, okay, so I go in blind to these conversations because I want to go through with the audience and I don't know if we're just trying to film a different kind of audit because this is our last time
Starting point is 00:03:21 filming in this studio before we moved to our new studio and that's really exciting, but people have like positive finances. I've heard that in comments before. Is this the Positive Finances episode? This is best buy cards. You had a slight bounce, and it's completely paid off to zero.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah. Okay. I mean, that's worth celebrating, right? Yeah. I worked really hard for that one. So this is good. Okay. Someone to celebrate?
Starting point is 00:03:54 I don't see. Oh. Oh. Oh. Champagne. Okay. Why? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Well, here. I'm going to let you do the champagne. Okay. Well, I don't know what I'm doing. doing with champagne. Well, we were going to pop a bottle. No, I don't know how to. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I don't drink. Okay, here, I'll give you this one. Oh, God, oh, God. I think you push forward. Oh, we push up. Ah! Oh, God, it's everywhere. Oh, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:17 The f***. The f***. Oh, my God. Okay. Here, you can just like pick some up and just throw it. Oh, iPad is going to be. I'm not a multi-thousand-dollar machine, that's it. Yeah, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I did not think it was going to be that much. Okay, well, this is good. So I guess we're celebrating with a positive financial audit. Is that what's happening? Yes, we are. Okay, cool. Wow. Well, the audience has asked for it.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So here we are. Yay. Woo! Oh, look at that. Oh, bubbly. It's everywhere. Get the floor nice and nasty before we leave. Hey, it's not ours anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Dang. Well, we got us up, Lisa. Okay. Hold on. A second. Okay. Okay, one second. I don't know what the fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:07 This is so weird. I have no idea. What is happening? Okay, well, on this piece of paper, I see something with a balance. What, okay, what is this? I don't know what they're showing me. It's that fucking label does not the document. That's the best buy card.
Starting point is 00:05:29 The best buy card. That is the best buy card. Which one's the document now? That is it. That's the current balance. Okay. As of like a week. Like two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Great. Fucking awesome. That's. Well done, guys. There's a really good reason. What a prank. All right. I thought, all right.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So I guess we're not ending with the positive financial. All right. There's a really good reason. Where's the good reason to bring the mood down? Yeah, let's hear that. It's really good. And you fucking made a pauper for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Did they quite coordinate that with you? No. Not the popper thing. Oh, but you knew a balance was coming out. Yeah. You f- okay. Sorry. Great.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Go ahead. So when I moved, I could not take my iPad that was my dad's with me. So for school, I basically just had to get another one. College? For college? Yes. You didn't have a computer. I do have a computer.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Why the fucking. Because I... You had a $0 card. I did a zero card. Which, well, I guess that makes sense if I have a little more critical thinking skills, the fucking stack is thick. What were they all going to be, different Roth IRAs or something? So I guess it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Okay. Great. So I had to get that card for school. So obviously we probably don't have the best finances I'm starting to assume. They're not bad. But you take a card that was a zero? What do you mean they're not bad? You took a card that's zero and you brought it all the way back up.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And I thought iPad when you had a computer already. Because they told me that if I didn't use the card, they were going to close it. And I remember you're saying that if you close the account, then it's worse for your credit. So I use the card for swimming for school. That way I could get it paid back. Get a fucking $5 sandwich? What are you talking about? I can only use that card at Best Buy.
Starting point is 00:07:12 You can't use it anywhere but Best Buy. Go to Best Buy an H-DMI cord. But I don't need an H-DMI cord. If I was going to buy something. No, you could have got some fucking candy. There's candy at the checkout. Yeah, but if I were going to buy something. Hey, hey, hey, right.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Fucking what the fuck? What the fuck are you talking about? An iPad. You already have a fucking computer. Listen, the only reason I use this is because of the show. No one that buys an iPad actually uses it. I use it every day. And I'm sure you have for your little month because I have your most reason statement.
Starting point is 00:07:39 No, I use it before I move. out of the balance now apparently so fucking great. Listen, this is stupid. You could have gotten there, got a fucking little box of candy. You could have gotten anything that was so much cheaper. Yeah, but if I was it, huh? I do use it. Everyone uses an iPad
Starting point is 00:07:54 No, I was using it before I moved, and then I couldn't take it with me. What for watching YouTube videos? Then why do you have a computer? I use it also for school. I take notes with the iPad. So you need it. Yes. You can't take notes on a computer. No, not because if I can't like type fast enough to take to keep
Starting point is 00:08:10 up with anything, so I write it down. Oh, for fuck's sake. A great new invention. I do have pencils and paper. I do both of them. How many fucking places to write down do you need? I have one. Okay, so I'd use the iPad when I'm in school.
Starting point is 00:08:23 You did not need a $900 for stupid. You did not need that. When you're already drowning in debt, I am assuming. Yes. What a stupid fucking thing. I think it's, I thought it was good because I used it for school. So I had used the car. I give them too much freedom to fuck with me.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Well, I had used the card. at first to get a pair of headphones that I also use every single day because I didn't have any and I needed headphones. And then I paid those off. You did not need probably the price of the headphones that you got. They were on sale. You make 2,000 hours a month and you waste it half of a month's income on an iPad. Shut the fuck up when you have pen and paper. Shut the fuck up when you have a laptop.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Shut the fuck up. This is so stupid. This is the dumbest thing. This is such a stupid way to close my final conversation in this building. I think it gets worse. Great. Oh, fucking fantastic. Okay, so what are we talking about here then?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Because obviously, okay, you're in school. Sounds like you moved to this area for school. What is going on? What the fuck are we talking about today, dude? Like, why am I there? What are you even studying? Forensic psychology. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:40 With a minor in child advocacy studies. okay do you even need a minor I wouldn't even like waste time on that these days no the minor it's only an extra like three or four classes but it gives me a certification that's expensive for you okay yeah but I get a certification yeah so I can work directly in the field with that where are you in your schooling journey
Starting point is 00:09:59 I already have my AA or my AS technically so it's it's the degree below my bachelor's your associates yeah so I only need my bachelor's and then I can get the certification and then if I get if I wait another semester and get one more certification I'll be dual certified so I can work right away. I certainly hope so. Yeah. 21. You started at 18. Yeah, I mean, the years line up. So you're in year three? Technically, yes. So what are we talking about today? Why are we in so much debt? Why is everything? I'm again assuming I haven't seen it,
Starting point is 00:10:31 but there's no way that you're not with this much paperwork. So when I moved, I wasn't planning on not having a job right away because I worked at the place that I work now. I worked there before I moved. But my transfer took way longer than I expected. So I essentially was living without an income for the first like two like month, two months of living there. This can't be just two months of shit. No, it's definitely not.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Then what are you talking about? A good amount of it is. Well, I also live with my boyfriend. And when he moved in with me. Oh, no. That means I get debt. No. No, when he moved in with me, his grandparents are paying for his college.
Starting point is 00:11:07 and their one rule was that he needed to focus on school for the first semester and they didn't want him to get a job. So I'm paying for both of our expenses. No. I kind of had to. No. What do you mean no? He can still borrow for living expenses for schooling.
Starting point is 00:11:25 What do you mean? Like borrow a loan or something? He doesn't have any credit. A student loan though. Can't cover off-campus living. It is. His grandparents are paying for that, but they're not paying for like our cats or anything that we had to do to set up the apartment.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like they're only paying for food. You didn't have to set up the apartment. What? I had nothing. I literally had nothing. Congratulations. I mean, that's why. I had an air matches for fucking six months when I first moved down here. Yeah. So I was sacrificing. I mean, I had a, I brought a bed with me. Oh, there you go. So that was nice.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So what the f-so? So you're just using this as an excuse. You did not need to go crazy. Dude, my first, my first apartment in when I was in college, just used furniture off of a Facebook marketplace. So I spent like 100. bucks on for everything. I did get a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Yeah, but if you were scrapping, if you were being scrappy, you would not be in these kind of finances. Yeah. I mean, I'm also only 21 and I've never lived alone, so it's kind of hard to just like boop, now you're on your own. I am going to commit
Starting point is 00:12:25 against this generation. I am so sorry. Are you fucking like actually stupid? Can I ask you that? I've actually been taking care of everything since I was 12. Okay, yeah, what was then great? I would actually like to hear that. Then what is the, I'm just a 21 year old? What a, what is the infant?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Everyone does. You're going to make mistakes until you die. Yeah. It's not the I'm 21. Don't infantilize yourself and give yourself a preemptive excuse to fuck up. You will fuck up because you are a human in a very temporary life on earth. But stuff is infantilize. Next you're going to pull out the, oh, but my frontal lobes not fully developed until 25.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm a psych major. I would not do that. 14, you have the cognitive skills to make the vast majority of rational decisions in this world. And then it slightly develops more until 25. It's not like a switch is flipped. So what the fuck is? I'm just 21. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I didn't ask that. Well, you asked why. Yeah, and that's your answer is... Part of it. Is I get to excuse everything because I'm too young to be able to advocate for myself and make mature choices. Well, a bunch of the cards had like 0% APRs. So I was using those because they didn't have anything in the bank.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And then I just like... Did you know what that would end up meaning? Yeah, that it accrues. Eventually. Yeah. Well, I mean, I didn't like under... Then what was the intention behind it then? Well, I was using them at first because I didn't have an income.
Starting point is 00:13:49 So I was basically paying for everything with that. You said for like three months. Yeah, but I had no money to... Like, I didn't have... What was your living expenses for three months that you like wait into? More debt than like humans go into? It's not that bad. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Oh, listen, I don't know. But all I know is I have a thick. stack. Yeah, no, it's not, it's a reasonable amount of debt, I would say, for a living. Hold on. I can actually look in here and see what it was added up to. 33,000 dollars. That's hardly a reasonable amount of debt of debt. Part of it is my car. That's a debt. That's an appreciating asset. I don't give a fuck. That is still something you have. Yeah, but that's not like all of it is, it's not like I owe $31,000 or $33, but for being stupid. Maybe. That car may have been a stupid purchase. Well, I lived on a dirt road. and I needed a car that was reliable.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So that was the car. It was either that or a car that would have broke down. I saw some dirt outside too. It's very scary. Okay, that's not fair. The road is purely potholes. I mean, like, it's literally one of the most dangerous roads in Alachua County. There's, like, been news articles about it being such a bad road.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Move. I can't, I was living with my parents. What did you want me to do? Drop out with no money. When? When did you move? I moved in this, this past December. So December 24th.
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Starting point is 00:15:50 saving it, go to rocketmoney.com slash Caleb or click the link in the description to get started for free. Uh, listen, I haven't been on that road. I don't drive on every road. Cool. listen, but it sounds like, it sounds like based on every conversation I've ever had, a really good reason to justify a purchase that was potentially stupid. I haven't looked at your car. I don't know. It might not be a stupid purchase.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Well, then it's probably a stupid purchase. It was used. I will say it was used. It was not a new car. I did not go out and buy a brand new car. So, I mean, I think that's kind of important. Because I could have. I mean, I could have just got like a brand new car and not. Yeah, you can. You can fuck up your life in a lot of ways. It doesn't mean you've done okay just because you've
Starting point is 00:16:30 fucked up your life in a little way. But you f*** up your life in more than a little way. Yeah. Because $33,000 hours halfway into college? Yeah. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah. A good amount of that is school, too.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'm sure. Yeah. So what are you trying to do? What are we talking about then? Like in general? Or like with my career. Your money, your finances. I'm trying to not be in debt.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And I would really like to get to a position where I have the ability to go to the parks that are near me. I live like an hour. from Disney and my sister has annual pass and I'd really like to get one to go with her. How was your sister? 25. Does she have a career? Almost 25.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yes. That's why she can! That's why you can't! You're in college! Shut the fuck up! I mean, I could eventually. Do I wait here, you're 25? Yeah, eventually.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Oh, you're not talking about now. No, yeah, I just want to be a Disney adult at some point. At some point, sure, you can be a fucking weirdo. That's okay. It's fun. No, it's okay. Disney's fine. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, and it's the good Disney. Thank you. I don't know, but it's a little. I've also had a lot of weird Disney people on the show. Oh, God. No, they can be a lot. Hold on, you've been accepted on the show.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Trust me. I highly doubt that means you're not. Okay, so we know 2,000 hours came in, right? Yes. Good. How much it went out? Probably around three.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Okay, yeah, 9,258. Lightwork, no reaction. Awesome. No reaction. I would not doubt that at all. This month. was spring break. No, but this month was spring break.
Starting point is 00:18:09 That's worth ruining our literal next 50 spring days. Fuck your boyfriend. I don't give a fuck. He's nice. Cool. I don't give a fuck. That's his birthday. Fuck him.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Well, I mean, I didn't want to not get him something. I just told you what to do. I don't think that's a birthday present. I'm joking, but I'm joking. All I'm saying is that is not an excuse to ruin his next five birthdays because you don't have money or your next five birthdays. money or your next five birthdays because you spent it all on him. Yeah. Are you crying?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. I'm sorry. What's happening? He just does a lot for me. What does he do? I mean, we've, we've been dating for like almost three years and he's been like really important to me and I just wanted to do something nice for him for his birthday. What did you do?
Starting point is 00:19:00 I took, we went to Disney Springs for the day. Okay. Everything's going to revolve around Disney. Yeah, it is. Um, well, he loves Legos. So I bought him two. Two really nice Lego sets. How much does that cost?
Starting point is 00:19:11 You spent 9,500 when you brought in two. I doubt that was all Legos. Was that all Legos? No, it was not, but a good amount of it was. Of 9,000. How much was this? Like that single day, I spent about $1,000, probably, or just like that one day at Disney Springs,
Starting point is 00:19:29 and a lot of that was on him. How can you even come close to finding that acceptable? You said you're on your own since 13, then you would have any kind of reasonable. Not on my own. I've just had to grow up fast. Okay. Then you should know that spending a month's income on a birthday,
Starting point is 00:19:47 half a month's income on one day is like the heart's fine, but you're destroying yourself. You're destroying potentially a relationship because financial reasons are one of the leading causes for separation in this country. So it's like you're putting your relationship at risk too. And he would have been totally okay. You wanted to spoil. Great. Love it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 But that's also a slightly selfish desire of wanting to spoil. Because you wanted to. He didn't need to be spoiled. Yeah. Okay. Well, a lot of that went on a new card. Okay. Okay, but you have to listen. The card itself, they were doing a promotion where if you spent $1,000, they gave you $400 back immediately, which did happen.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So that's why that happened that day. Great. And now we have almost as much debt as your death situation for your age is insane. Yeah. Where do you think you are in the world of finances? Zero to 10, zero being the worst, 10 being the best. It's time to refresh your yard during spring backyard days at the Home Depot. Get low prices guaranteed on propane grills starting $179, like the next grill 3-burner gas grill.
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Starting point is 00:21:37 Zero dollar best fight card. Right. Great. At least I paid it off once. Like some people don't. You're going to fucking die. No, I'm just saying. Like some people don't pay.
Starting point is 00:21:47 off their cards at all. Like at least I paid it off once. Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. Oh, humans. Humans. What flawed individuals we are. Yeah. The fact that other fucking people do something does not mean it is okay for you to do it. I will never understand this concept. I swear it is one third of the conversations I have on here.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's like, who gives a fuck? If people are doing bad who cares? If people are smoking, does that mean that just because you do a bad drug that's not as bad as that you're doing okay? No! Who? Who cares about these others?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Who gives us ss that does not justify a single thing about your life? And it never will. You not being able to get ahead ever. Just because other people are worse doesn't mean you not being able to get ahead is good. I will never understand it. Stop with this bullshit. What is the minimum of the payment on this fucking Best Buy card now? $41.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Okay. you owe $902.77 41 a month I'm gonna sakes, dude you were making progress you paid off this card
Starting point is 00:23:05 and then you immediately f***ed it and there was you asked why I'm gonna I'm gonna yeah it's your acceptance of it it's your acceptance of it or justifying it
Starting point is 00:23:18 this is stupid as a Disney card I told you about that card I told you you about that. Oh, for sake. What did you expect? I think my brain wanted to forget it already because it was so fucking dumb. Okay, the Disney premiere card. So what is going on? That's the one that if you spent a thousand, they gave you 400 back. Yeah, but now you have a card that you're not fully paying off that is eventually going to accrue interest. Does it accrue interest now?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Why are you sending screenshots instead of statements like we request? Because that happened. I got that card after I had already sent the original statements and that's what they told me to do because it doesn't have a full statement yet. Oh my gosh. You're getting new cards after applying to be on the financial where it's about cleaning up your finances. I'm going to burn this place to the ground. What's the last day here? It really is. And I should claim the insurance money.
Starting point is 00:24:02 This is so stupid. This is so fucking stupid. You open a new debt and round that debt up on the best buy card. There's two. You won't play. There's beyond the fuck shot. I don't even want to hear it yet. Oh, I'm just trying to process.
Starting point is 00:24:19 The fucking choice. in your life. Yeah, it's everywhere. What is the minimum payment on this? Because I don't know. It doesn't tell me. What do you mean? It's because it says it right there.
Starting point is 00:24:38 There is no minimum payment yet because it hasn't had a full cycle. What is it? Pull it up now. Okay. And what is the interest accruing on it? I believe it's around 25. And if you spent $1,000, you got $100. Yeah, $400, $400.
Starting point is 00:24:53 $400. That was your little intro thing. They get you in with nice little pennies. Yeah. Nice little pennies. Knowing you so far, knowing you so far and that you like to build cards back up, not pay them off.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Let interest accrue. I'm going to bet you're probably going to eventually pay more than $400 in interest and they're going to well make their money back. Mickey's going to... See, it still says no minimum monthly payment. Give me this. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:25:19 But what it does say is that it went up by... Okay, that was to get me here. Okay, well, that'll be reimbursed. Why did you put that on a card? Because I didn't have it in my checking account. Okay. Now, if you're loving your life without having money in your checking account, why? Because it was spring break.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's why. It's not because you came here. It's because you went like you were a fucking moron during spring break. You're already in Florida. You don't even need to go anywhere. That's where everyone goes. Yeah. Shut the fuck up spring break.
Starting point is 00:25:47 It's a 30% interest. It's so stupid. Great. So now we're talking $1,040. and 43 cents. Oh, so close to being maxed out. I bet it will be by the time you go back home. I have never maxed out a card.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You're about to. Okay, well, I've never gone over. You're about to. Oh, good. Oh, good. It's to get here. That's why we're getting Starbucks. Dining.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Well, yeah, I had to leave like super early this morning. I flew in today. Disney store, Sephora, Sephora, Bake House. Sea World. Sea World. Sea World, Sea World, a restaurant, Perta Vida, going and getting some bullshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Big House Disney Store, Spice and Tea. I'm glad we are accruing 30% interest for Lego Disney Springs and B.Y. Basin. It's just so fucking moronic. What are you spending at AutoZone? Oh, that was a windshield wiper, but they gave part of it back to me because it was the wrong one. Dude, you're spending like a fiend. Okay, well, my wincheweper broke. Not that.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Everything else I mentioned. Well, I already told you about everything else. So that's what you're talking about. You think that it justifies it? What? That I told you about it? Yes. No.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Then I don't give a fuck. What are you asked? I did not ask if you've told me about it. Oh. Shut the fuck up. I know, kind of, sometimes, what I've said. You spend like a feat. and no, what you told me about was your past spending
Starting point is 00:27:29 to get you to that of thousands bet. Yeah. You didn't tell me about the, Darby's and the dining. And the dining. That's school. And stop you didn't get any bull-th. So you went to spring break.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Where the fuck did you go? Disney Springs. Right, that's right. I don't even know what that is. Where is that? It's like, have you heard downtown Disney? So you went an hour away and we blew our life? Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Go to a pool next time. You're, Listen, you can do that as a college student. If you have the money, you're making it so much harder for you later. And you just don't understand that now. I mean, there's no... I'm going to assume the amount of payment's going to be something like 50 bucks. Probably, yeah, 50.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Okay. So literally, in order to get that bonus, you didn't spend it on anything that provides you values, literally just going on to eat, out to eat, out to eat. And then, yes, $400 dollars of Legos, but I'll eat, out to eat, out to eat, out to eat. out to eat out to eat out tea out tea out to eat that's all it was well i mean it was also sephora and the spice and tea exchange which isn't eating so bullshit bullshit yeah i mean i told you it was spring break that doesn't mean you have to spend like bullshit you went to a destination doesn't mean you have to go fucking insane oh shiny i'm what are you talking about i mean that's not how we all activate that's not how we all work that's how i work
Starting point is 00:29:11 then go to therapy. Like what? I can't fix that. I can get you on a budget, but I can't fix you not being able to like, look at that over there. It's not bad. Well, then you can control it.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah. I didn't even know what you spent last month. Probably didn't even know what she spent on this fucking card. I know it was on that one. Okay. I'll get you with a sound of mine therapist. Three free sessions for our guests and people in our audience. So great.
Starting point is 00:29:47 We have like $2,000 in credit cards already. 24. That's our entire month of income. Yay, okay. What's your rent? Is he working now? No, he's going to start working in May. He had to wait the whole first semester.
Starting point is 00:30:01 That was their rule. I hated it too. Just to be clear. And they can pay for his life outside of that, right? What do you mean? It's only covering, it's a 529 plan. I don't know if you know what that is, but it can only be used for rent.
Starting point is 00:30:14 school, like tuition, books. So what are you? You're just covering fucking Lego sets and driving to restaurants and then paying for the restaurants. That's not stuff that is required to live. No, I pay for our cats. I pay for... Don't get cats if you can't afford them. I had them already. They were my cats.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Well... I wasn't... What don't we do? Throw them outside? They're from their childhood? No, well, I mean, kind of. What? I got them last year when I lived at home. No, then you shouldn't have. If you couldn't afford them, if you knew what you were going to do in life,
Starting point is 00:30:42 you cannot get pets. selfish of you. It's brutal to say, but it is. It's selfish to get pets you cannot take care of. And it's not his responsibility to take care of your cats. So what else? Because really, I'm just hearing your choices.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I mean, I love my cats. I'm not going to just get rid of them. That's not what I'm saying. What else is he not covering? Anything that isn't food or rent. So like any of the cleaning stuff, like the taking care of the apartment, like anything like that. Listen, that's like, that's not even that crazy though. Cleaning supplies
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Starting point is 00:32:27 Why? Then you guys are over shopping. No, because he has a payment. The payment plan can only cover a school amount of money. Yeah, how much? So like this, I don't know exactly. It's his, it's not my money. I don't look at it.
Starting point is 00:32:38 But you guys are communicating and you're covering things. You should have some kind of insight. Well, he pays for like over, he pays for like a quarter, almost half of the food. If he does half, then you're not cutting into your money. Because you're just covering half, which is two people, you. Yeah, but everything that adds up. All my monthly expenses are a lot. Yeah, by your choice, not from him not being able to cover.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I mean, it's not my fault that my car is almost $600 a month. Yes, it is. I didn't really choose that car myself. Your parents did? My grandma did. They forced you to. Pretty much. What is pretty much?
Starting point is 00:33:13 It was between that and, a more expensive truck. Why do they get to choose what car? Because my grandma took me car shopping. When my first car, well, my first car, broke down. Then you say, no, grandma, take me home, and then go car shopping by yourself. I couldn't. I was 17.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yes, you could. How was I supposed to go car shopping without a car? Uber. With no money? Buddy. Literally nothing. You didn't have a part-time job? I did, but I got fired from that job.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Why? Because the company got, like, the company went away, basically. The company stopped being a thing. So you got let go. Okay, that's different. Okay, so you get another part-time job. I guarantee you you get to drop some fries. A lot of these things is ending up to be,
Starting point is 00:34:01 every time we go down the, I can go further down the rabbit hole, and it turns out it's something that you chose, kind of, to a certain extent. It's like you chose to not do the harder version, but that could have saved you longer. Like, she took your call. car shopping. She did not force you to. She took it to like two places, right? Yeah. She just didn't want to go further. She's disabled. Okay. Go home. Uber. I couldn't Uber. I didn't have any money to Uber with. Well, this is why, again, you should have had a part-time job. I know, but I couldn't get a part-time job. If I couldn't drive there, I lived at least 20 minutes away from anything. Couldn't work at McDonald's. It was also 20 minutes away from me. Okay, I hear that. And there was no public transit near me. You can shop for cars online, though. There's always options. I know, but I also had no crap.
Starting point is 00:34:44 so I needed my mom to go with me. But that has nothing to do with your grandma going with you, does it? Well, no, because my grandma, they want, my parents works. My grandma went with me and then they were, like, she told them, like, which cars be found and stuff. And then they were totally going to meet us. I was fine with that option. My parents were not fine with shopping for a car online. They wanted to see it before we got it.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So they wanted me to get one, like, from a dealership, basically. It's interesting. Yeah. I mean, it was either that or get, because, the other option was to go to Dodge, which is way more expensive, and get a very way expensive car. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's on the used car a lot. Private sales also worth looking at, but... Yeah. There were also, it was also right after COVID. They couldn't borrow someone's car? I literally had no one to borrow from. My parents both work and they use their cars to work.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Right, but now they weren't willing to one day, the weekend or something. There you go. I told you the further we go down, we could find it. Come on. They're not working seven days a week. I was taking care of my grandma. She's disabled. What? That doesn't mean you can't borrow a car? Like I was helping her on the weekends. I wasn't really working on the weekends. You can take a couple hours. I probably could have. Yes, there you go. We can always find a solution. That's what happens. And this is, this is like, listen, I know I'm harping on something that has already happened and you'd think maybe that's not productive. But the thing is, if we don't correct that mindset now and make it just take the easy solution, it's right there, you're going to be in this situation for the rest of your life. You're going to be here
Starting point is 00:36:26 forever, and I've seen it time and time again. I need to correct you that if we try to actually problem itself, fucking whiteboard the shit, dude, figure out the solutions and cross off what doesn't work, but you usually end up with a couple different options, and we just found it. Borrow a car on a weekend for a couple hours, maybe for a couple weekends in a row, a few weekends in a row to try to find the right car. So there we go. That was a little. That's what I've just learned. So you purchased this we already went through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 You spent over $1,000 on Legos for him? No. It was all that whole week. No, in total, before, in general? Oh, probably, yeah. But that was over three years. I mean, that's not... Yeah, but look where you've gotten in over three years.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Put yourself and potentially you guys on a better footing, because you guys have been together for three years. Marriage might be in the picture. Yeah, that's my goal. Then you have to sacrifice now for it. Listen, behind every giving action, not, I mean, this sounds weird to say, but there is an argument to be made by psychologists that, so you'll probably know that. Yay, me, psychology.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You can probably source what I'm saying, because I forgot where I learned this from, but I think it was in psychology class, but behind every action of giving, there's still a of selfishness behind it because it makes you feel good. Exactly. So you're still doing this kind of for you, even though yes, it is, it makes him feel good, but you wanted to give that. You love the feeling of giving and you were putting that before actually setting you and him up for a future together. If marriage is your goal, you have to sacrifice. Yeah, I mean, that's my love language. It's like giving. And it's really problematic. It 100% is. But like that's the best way I know how to show.
Starting point is 00:38:25 show people that I care about that. Eventually soon, hopefully. I'm guessing, well, I'm not guessing, but if it were me as soon as possible. And him? He wants to wait probably another two years until he's completely done to school. Because he just wants to be done to school, which I mean, I guess that. So you want to get married today and he doesn't? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:46 It's hard. Yeah. How does that make you feel? It's rough. Because I feel like I do a lot. But I mean, he says like, oh, well, I want to get married, but I just have this going on I just don't want to rush into it or I don't want to go. I don't want to do it right now, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:06 So it's been a lot. There's a lot of things I've been like that. And that might be valid, but also at the same time. Yeah, we've been together for three years. Well, not just that. Are you sure he actually wants to? Yeah, I think so. If he's not willing to just go to the courthouse and have a ceremony in two years?
Starting point is 00:39:18 I want to say I'm sure, but there's really nothing I can do to prove it. Okay. Is it your finances? Because I've talked to a lot of couples where it's like they're not willing to get married because one is finance. Honestly, I doubt it. Just not to make him sound horrible, but he didn't know much about finances, honestly, to begin with,
Starting point is 00:39:46 because his parents never made him deal with it. They just kind of did it for him. So I don't think he really understands the extent of how bad it is right now for me. Is it okay? Can I call him in the post show and tell him how bad it is? Yeah, if you want. I mean, I'm not going to stop him. I do one.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I do that in the post show. So it's important in this conversation if we're discussing marriage. Okay, and all the thousand hours in debt, essentially. So we got an apple card. Yeah. What do we buy in here? Another iPad? That was, that's also just, it's just been built up household expenses mostly.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So like public's like food and stuff. I go through your apple card. Will I see that? Yeah. Only that. Mostly. Yeah. No, I said mostly.
Starting point is 00:40:26 No, I said mostly. It's mostly that. Okay. I will say there's probably some stupid stuff. Put up then. Okay. I have a statement here. I mean, it's, it's, it's 60% stupid.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah. Mostly stupid. What's stupid? Okay. Subscription. Okay. But what subscriptions? Because some of them are actually like important.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Premium? For what? Where we are? Oh, YouTube. Yeah. I mean, what do you want me to do? Not have YouTube premium? Okay, that sounded really bad.
Starting point is 00:40:57 You're having it. I use it every single day and it's a student discount. Okay, see, you're immediately pushing the goalpost. You do not need a $144 version of Gramerly. That was for school. I think that came back to me at some point. It better, but you do not need. Ambition comes in all shapes and sizes.
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Starting point is 00:41:35 Domino's pizza. Yeah. Yeah, that's bull. Yeah. Not going to try to justify that. Wow, we made it. We made progress. I didn't have anything in the freezer.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Our freezer's tiny. What did you get a Paxon for $65? That was me replacing, I believe, some pants that got, like that, like ripped or whatever. And you had no other pants? No, I did. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Some subscription or Apple pay.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Einstein Bro. Ain't signed Bros. Bagels. Panther. That's cool. Surf style. Surf style. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Einstein bros, HBO Max. Bullshit. That was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, non-bulls. And honestly, if you go into the store and you get a $10 thing, I'm not confident that that is groceries and not just you going and getting. No, I mean, that's where I work. When you stop at the, at the square, $10.67 cents? The square. Melbourne Square
Starting point is 00:42:40 I generally have known Minnesota Miniso M-I-N-I Oh that was in the mall That was in the mall Bullsh-hmm Yes Great so it's even more
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah Wonderful Great How long have you had this card You said he just ramped it out No I've had that one for a while Over a year Oh here
Starting point is 00:43:01 Oh You f*** Lady There's more pages in this statement Yes And it's all fucking bullshit. You went and he got some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Winning and got some bullshit. Japanese restaurant. Winning got some bullshit. Winning got some bullshit. Wampus. Netflix. Winning got some bullshit. Domino's.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Apple bill. An Uber subscription. Not just an Uber payment. Uber subscription. But we have a car. We have a car that we pay so much for. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:46:39 Let's get back into the program. Great. Thank you. We have an Uber subscription. The Barnes & Noble, that's school. That was not fair. What? The Barnes and Noble charge.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Is the school book? Yeah, it was books. Okay. Great, guys. We made it. We made it one out of like 30. Woo! Everything's justified.
Starting point is 00:46:55 It's all good. Let's solve right again. Woo! There's more here. Fuck off. Come on. Come on. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:47:05 Why even put it on the credit card anyway? Because you're just going to be accruing interest. I didn't have it in the checking account. Is it just a interest? Is it just for a check in the checking account? Is it interest free right now? No, it is not. Oh, for a f***.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I think that's the one of two that are not interested right now. But the rest of them are. So stupid. When they're saying you put a lot of the move on here, like $200 couch, $60 of posters, reverse osmosis water filter, toaster oven, steam cleaner, all the cleaning supplies, which that part is fine. Decor, $200, you do not need, fucking decor. A mini fridge?
Starting point is 00:47:45 One fridge isn't good enough. No, because the fridge is tiny and I'm trying to, you know, keep room to not buy food all the time. What? Our apartment fridge that came with the apartment is literally tiny. Great. I don't care. Well, I mean, that's the reason. Go grocery shopping once a week.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I don't give a stop. Meal prep. I don't care. How tiny. Very small. Show me how high. That's fine. It's a smaller fridge.
Starting point is 00:48:10 We've all had weird small fridges. It was a fridge and freezer. Yes, we've all had those before. In a chief college apartment, this is normal. Well, that was the reason. You work at a fucking grocery store. I do. Pick up the food on the way home.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I do. Do you stoop, blah. Okay. I do pay. Okay. Okay. Great. Great.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And we need all the decor and all the posters. Well, I was my first time moving out. I mean, I just. Did not need that to fucking survive. You're saying you justified at the beginning of this conversation. This is how you listed at the beginning of the conversation. I covered all him because his mom, his grandparents can only cover school. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:48 From his 529. Great. Okay. Maybe there's some sympathy here. Posters. Had to get it. Had to get the couch. Had to get all this bullshit. In the month that we moved. All the posters, all the decor, the steam cleaners, all this stuff. We had to get. Had to get. We wouldn't survive. We would have gotten evicted if we didn't get this. Come on. Don't set me up with this, with a sympathy bullshit when it is found out to be bullshit. It ruins my trust in you for the rest of this conversation.
Starting point is 00:49:19 you're no longer a reliable narrator in your own finances because you tried to mislead i mean that's how it feels for me feels well i mean that's like in that day yeah you're not in that day yeah i'm aware now but i this isn't that day either so i mean i'm trying to explain how it felt in that day you didn't say that now you're just pushing the goalpost again now you're just trying to come on yes you are you're trying to tell me what actually happened and now i like well Actually, I was just trying to tell you what I felt like in that day. Well, I don't know how to describe it. Huh?
Starting point is 00:49:55 I don't know how I was to describe it. I mean, that's the best way to describe it. You could say, I made bad purchases. They were stupid. No, you said I had to cover his expenses. Yeah. And I've made dumb choices. Huh?
Starting point is 00:50:06 I said, and I've made dumb choices. I don't remember that. I definitely said I've made bad decisions. But in that context, in that statement, in that statement, in that statement, exactly. Then I don't give a fuck because all I'm doing is talking about this part. The part of. you moving in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:21 You didn't qualify those at the same time. They're all a bunch of dumb choices. Well, there you go. Say that instead of trying to lead a sympathy play to make you look good out of the gate. Hey, I just had to cover all his expenses because he just couldn't afford it. And the grandparents only covering the school thing. And they said he couldn't work. So I had to cover this stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Bullshit. You fucking. partially true. Part of it is that. But barely, it's your own cats. You cover your half of the stuff. the groceries, really, it's just the cleaning supplies. And that could be like $25, $50 a month.
Starting point is 00:50:56 You're in a small college apartment. That's a cheap. Stop it. Yeah. Okay. Maybe you have too much of an apartment for being honest. Okay, but to be fair, I did hunt for apartments for months, and there were like no good listings.
Starting point is 00:51:09 That was like the best one I could find. Unfortunately, you've lost your reliability. Yeah. I wish I could believe that. And a part of me does, but unfortunately a part of me doesn't now. With the car thing, couldn't literally borrow your parents' cars on the weekend, trying to make the whole financial situation a sympathy play because I had to cover the boyfriend because he couldn't work.
Starting point is 00:51:34 No. I didn't say it was all of that. Come on. You know how it looked. You know how you were framing it. Don't try to rewrite the conversation. I mean, don't try that. Don't.
Starting point is 00:51:47 we're not going to get anywhere if you do that is this how you've talked to everyone ever have you tried to like manipulate conversations I don't think so hmm okay certainly hope not what is this
Starting point is 00:52:06 boyfriend is going to try to pay her back for what she's paid but a boyfriend has helped her out with car insurance in the past you didn't even say that so you helped him out but he's helped you out before And you didn't even, again, you should have brought that up if you're going to. I didn't think that was, when was that relevant? We haven't talked about like that. We've only talked about this stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Because you brought, again, came into this. Do you not remember what I just said like a minute ago? Yeah. You came into this conversation with the sympathy play of I had to cover him. This is where you also would say, but he's covered me before. So, you know, actually we're kind of even. I never said it was uneven. I'm just saying that you asked.
Starting point is 00:52:44 No, you did it. You're right. You didn't specifically say it wasn't uneven. But you came in to try to get sympathy. by saying you covered him. Okay, but you asked what was on the card. That's a lot of what was on the card. What?
Starting point is 00:52:57 The Apple card? I didn't know the Apple card existed at the beginning. At the beginning of the conversation. You asked where all the debt and stuff is coming from? So I gave you the whole, that was part of it. Like, that was the whole thing. But usually in contextual conversations, people would say, but also he's covered my expenses in the past as well.
Starting point is 00:53:11 So this is kind of, just it makes sense. That would be relevant at that point at that moment. Are you not capable of normal conversations? I mean, sometimes, I guess not. I don't think about like the whole thing. I mostly just think about that exact question. You told the producers you think he owes you $3,000 to $4,000? Probably.
Starting point is 00:53:32 What have you covered that it's three to four? Wait. No, your cats do not count. No, not three to four thousand. That's what they wrote down from your conversation with them. Unless they misheard you. I don't think it's, I don't think it's three to four thousand. It's a probably a good amount of money, but I don't think it's three to four thousand.
Starting point is 00:53:49 For what? Your cats? No, just. Your half of groceries? I'm so confused. $25 to clean you supplies on a monthly basis. What is he paying you back for? All of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:00 The Legos? Does he have to pay you back for the Legos? No. Then what the fuck is $3,000 to $4,000? Because now it's almost putting yourself in an entitlement position. It's, okay. I don't know how exactly to describe it. I have all the receipts and stuff, but like a bunch of the things that we did the weeks or the first month of us living here.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Because his, not. Just for the furniture? No, it's for like, oh, well, yeah. that too. Okay, well, maybe it could be for the furniture. It's for part of it. Does you guys make an agreement that he's going to pay for half? No, I just know he will.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I mean, out of everything that they added up for the furniture, it was like a couple thousand bucks, though. Where are we three to four? We've only lived together for a year? Less than a year. We've been limiting it ever since December. Then what the fuck. No, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I don't think that that's what I meant to say. I genuinely don't. Okay. Yeah, there's no way. Next card. See what new personality trait we discover in this one. Freedom. $1,05.35.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I know I'm being hard and I'm pushing you hard, but it is important to call out the things you have said, the way you have established the conversations and your way of not being able to find a potentially slightly less convenient way to do things, but save yourself in the long term. I need to call them out. I need to push back.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And I need to call you on your bullshit. And you push back. those because you will continue making the same mistakes forever if I do not. And you're a human that exists in this world. I cannot have you fucking up forever. It sucks for you. I don't want to see someone suffer. $40 payment on this, $1,05.35 owed.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Oh, for $5. Well, it looks like the balance is paid off last month, but then you purchase $1,0005. Yeah. So what's up with this card? That's the shared card we used when we moved in. Who shared? Shared with who? The boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Not shared. He's an authorized user. Oh, God. But you're not married yet. Why are you getting so entangled like this? Because he had no credit. Tell him to get an intro credit card. He did. He actually got a FIS card. Okay, then all of a sudden, then we realized... Yeah, I wanted him to start building credit.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Okay, so he got the Fis card. Great. So why the Fis card? So why the FI did he need to be on this card? I added him before that. Why didn't you just have him go get that card first? Okay, it's just... Because he had no credit to get one. He could have gotten an intro credit. card. If that's what we
Starting point is 00:56:28 care about. Just the credit card that everyone got, he, a credit card that on college campuses, they have booths
Starting point is 00:56:36 where they're like sign up for this credit card. If he really just needed an intro, he could have Googled, Google, Gopped, he could have anything.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Well, I just, that's what I thought of. I thought, oh, I can add him to this. Okay. You know. It's the shortcut angle.
Starting point is 00:56:50 It's that, it's kind of a repeated thing in this conversation. But again, I do want to cloud. I feel like it's just a lack of knowledge. Huh? I feel like it's just a lack of knowledge.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah, but lack of knowledge is less of an excuse today than it's been in human civilization. You have the access to everything at your fingertips. I know some people are like adamantly anti-AI. Some people are like woo-oo AI. But here's the thing. I mean, with like 4.5 using like the deep research version there, you can learn anything you want to learn. And you can fact check to confirm that everything's okay and correct.
Starting point is 00:57:20 But just history, stuff that is able to confirm at least throughout history, it's like you can learn anything right now. can have a scour the internet to find resources for you and knowledge for you. And then you go learn the resources through the sites that it finds through books. Google can Bing if you want to get weird. He uses Bing. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But the resources.
Starting point is 00:57:44 But you have the resources. Yes. The lack of knowledge is a choice at this point. Now, you don't know what you don't know. There is that. But the thing is, once you know you don't know something, which you know you are not informed on this, you can go learn. There are shows like this where we teach the basics.
Starting point is 00:58:02 We have our educational classes. We have a fucking debt. It's in depth on debt. In depth on budgeting. In depth on investing. In depth on real estate. Where you can spend hours taking our quizzes. And I give you everything that we have brought in experts to teach everything.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Everyone would have to know. There are so many resources out there. It is not a, I'm 21. My frontal lobe is not developed. I never said the front of the world. You didn't say that. But a lot of people say that. But you did say I'm 21.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Well, yeah, I was trying to explain that like I'm 21, but also, I don't know. I just feel like there's just been so many things that have gone on with me that I just feel like all the time I'm just screwed. That's not even true, but we can all get down. No, but I'm not saying like just the money. I'm saying in general. No, I know, but that is not true. You're in a position where you're in college. You live with your boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:58:50 You're potentially going to get married. So far, I mean, yes, we've looked at lots of different debts, but we're at 4,000 hours of debt. that is too much of your, two months of your income, unless something gets absolutely insanely worse, no, you're not in the worst position. You're in a position where you're doing stupid things, like the spring break and justifying it because of someone else's birthday. It's just like, you're not in the worst. It is easy to feel down ourselves and talk to the therapist about that as well.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And it is easy to get into that spiral. But you got to bust out of it. You got to start putting an effort. Again, just building out of budget, man, and our budgeting half, literally just building out a budget, at least you know where your money's going and you can start correcting things on a monthly basis. It's all automated. It's like so many tools now where yes, you can feel down, but there are easy steps you can take to start breaking that cycle. I'm not like trying to use it as an excuse, but I do have ADHD and I do have anxiety.
Starting point is 00:59:44 So like when things come up, I have a panic disorder. Listen, and that everyone in the world has ADHD, it feels like. It's really annoying. But it's when things like come up, because I got diagnosed really late because a lot of women do get diagnosed really late. So when things come up, they just feel really stressful in that exact moment. And I just try to find the fastest way to handle it. And you have to learn coping mechanisms. I do. But that's the reasoning for a lot of the choices is I'm like, oh, well, this needs to get handled now. But you're still making those choices now. Yes. I'm going to push back. Yeah, I know. I'm going to push back. You are still making those choices now. Look at you. You are speaking educatedly about your own decisions, meaning you know they are going on.
Starting point is 01:00:19 meaning it is your choice to not seek to help to develop those coping mechanisms of the results that you're doing. Meaning when those results of your actions are happening, it is your fault still. And ADHD is not a, you do. Yeah. Like I don't have the time to go and see somebody about it just because I'm still trying to work. And with your degree and everything, student loans might be a valid return on investment for you versus working 40 hours a week. It might not make sense for you to work 40 hours a week. And that is okay.
Starting point is 01:00:48 This is not Dave Ramsey. You have to go to college completely paid for. You can get a good return on investment if we do this correctly. You know, you already did the associate degree in community college? Yes. See, you already done it like the right way. Yeah. That part, if we borrow a little and work 20 hours a week, that is okay.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah. But also, you just went and spent $1,000 on FLEGOs. Like, it is not the fact that you are working. There are actions here as well as you were putting yourself in a hole where you're now forced to work because you have minimum fee payments. Yeah, because I saw Ushiny. Because you saw an Ushiny. Yeah. I mean, that is literally the reason.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Well, it looks like this card's 0% intro. Yes. Now, you said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough. Enough to get lost. Or you could book a stay with Hilton.
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Starting point is 01:01:59 Brocaries or bull- It's hard to tell. Quest Diagnostics. Yeah, got to make sure you don't got them STDs, STIs. I got it. I got it. You got to be safe. You got a car wash.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I mean, it's Florida. No, I wash my, I try to take really good care of my car just to keep it, like, obviously, worth something. because I don't want it to be like bad because my car is white too. But you're not near the beach. You're not getting salted and not dust. Our water has pure sulfur in it. Like the sprinklers that go off.
Starting point is 01:02:28 The water, the sprinklers in my apartment, they're purely sulfur and it leaves. And you park on the sprinkler? I have no choice. All the parking is surrounded by the sprinklers. Okay. And it's really, really bad. A suggestion. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I have one gallon bucket. There's no houses. No, fill it up in your sink. Oh. My gosh. And walk it down the stairs. Yeah. Fill up a one.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I did cancel that. I actually did cancel. It was a subscription? Yes, it was. I didn't realize it was a subscription. And then I was like, I got my, I will say I did get my washes out of it, though. Once I realized it was a subscription, I got a crap ton of washes out of it. Because you could pay for, I think what happened was they told me, like, you could pay for the one wash or you could pay that exact amount for the one wash.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Yeah, I mean, they coax you into it. I get it. Yeah. Do you have to pay this off by? June, I believe. Oh, no, not June. Is it? I think it is June.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I can't find a date for some reason. And it was on there. I believe it should have been. June 14th? Yes. That's what I'm being told. Fuck me. Okay, so we have to put
Starting point is 01:03:36 $1,0005.30... 1005.35. One second. One second. Sorry. I mean... It's essentially, you got to put $510 to it on a monthly basis.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Can I throw something in? Is it good or bad? It's not horrible when I was... So what is this freestyle watches? That's this bullshit. I got... Sorry, I sold my other... My Apple watch that I had.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I sold it because I wasn't using it. I sold it to my sister. I got this one with the same amount. Do you need a watch? At work? Yeah, I do. Because there's like no clocks anywhere and I have to be on time everywhere. You can't check your phone like that.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I mean, just to see... I can. It's just I'm really bad at it. And a lot of my work pants don't have pockets because women's work pants suck because we have no pockets. So I end up leaving my phone in the office instead. And they don't want us on it all the time anyway. So it's also a very big appearance thing for my work.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It's not the biggest thing. It's just the stacking up of things. But that 100% is a my company's appearance thing. And unfortunately at the grocery store, I cannot assume that every purchase is 100% necessary because you work there. You might be grabbing like energy drinks. I do bring energy drinks with me. I do not buy them at work.
Starting point is 01:04:49 That is a good start, but you can be buying snacks. You know, things you don't need that you pass. now? Yeah, I mean, it's really hard because of the Bogos. Because of the what? Bogos, buy and get ones. That's my store's big thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I'm being honest. Also, can I throw that thing in there, please? Sorry, for the Chase Freedom Limited, I was planning on paying that off with my tax return because I put aside extra withholding. I always put aside extra withholding, which I know is not the best way to save, but it forces me into it. So as many of you know, I've been a big supporter of course careers for a long time. I'm not just a partner.
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Starting point is 01:07:18 Huh? Last year? This year. You said you put aside less last year. Why would you put aside more this year? Because I was part-time. So, like, as of this year, I started putting aside more. On purpose?
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yeah. You really don't want to get anything back. I know. It's just, my grandma always told me to it because it's like a force-s-hating account. I know. Yeah, but she's my grandma. So I was a good I'm not listen to her. Well, yeah, but it was your grandma.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Yeah, I would tell her she's wrong. I do not have the guts to do that. Well, you can also just not do it. Just don't have a conversation about it. No, she had, been asking for my like she needs to get it the fuck out of your life because she's being weird no i love my grandma yeah but she needs to get the fuck out of this kind of stuff the car situation yeah and this for savings sure if you're literally incapable of existing buddy set up automatic transfers to
Starting point is 01:08:07 savings i did that now government's not giving you a high-ield savings while that thousands are sitting there and honestly i'm just i'm concerned based on the habits we've seen here the language which we've used the conversation we've had. It's like, okay, yeah, you might get a couple thousand bucks. It can help you pay off this card and one other card. Yeah. But you'll just balloon them back up. Because if you don't, this is like a consolidation.
Starting point is 01:08:26 It's like a bankruptcy. It's like a balance transfer. If you don't change the behavior before you just wipe it. Yeah. And you go right back in because it's not like you're closing the cards anyway. And there's not a single card with a zero dollar balance on here. Unfortunately, I thought there was. F*** me.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Okay. You're right. So. At least I've never missed a payment. I know that's not a lot, but... Yeah, but I've also heard probably 20 people say that, and then I find out that they have. I've actually never missed a payment on that either. I really hope so.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I can pinky promise you. I've never missed a payment on anything. We don't need to touch skin, but I really hope so. No, but I can pinky promise that. Okay, I hope so. Amazon card. Okay, it's weird. You paid a good amount, but then you purchased on it.
Starting point is 01:09:10 There's a balance. It's a small balance. It's like, I don't understand why we keep it. $103 and $9. $0.97. Yeah. I try not to spend too much on that one, obviously, because it's not in an intro period or anything. Okay, so your Amazon card. Pull up your Amazon account. Okay. Launchery. Okay, that's fine. Slim case for iPad. Okay, well, I wasn't going to break the expensive thing.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Other reason to spend money. Yeah, but you spent money to spend money. Yes. But I get it. Well, yeah, but I mean, also, I didn't want to break the new iPad. Like, I didn't want it to just immediately be worthless, so. Yeah, but also maybe don't get a fucking a pad. You tit. expensive vacuum. You do not need that right now. No, no, no, no. I have, oh my, I'm sorry. I know it's going to sound bad. I have really horrible allergies and the carpets in my apartment suck. Yeah, but you get a vacuum. That's not a thousand trillion dollars. That is a nice vacuum. That is what I have. That is a nice vacuum. If you look up a vacuum right now, they're all going to be way more than that. They're going to be very expensive. That one was not that much. It was like $100. Oh, maybe this isn't the one I have. I was about to say. I was like, I literally picked one of the cheaper ones. Okay, 200. It was on sale. I bought it on. I bought it on. I. I bought it on. I. I was on. I was on. I was on. I was about it. I was on. I was on. I was on sale. That's the only reason I got it was because it was on sale. You got it for 130. That's close.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It's close. Carpet thing for the cat. It looks like more cat stuff. Air purifier. More cat stuff. Blue Via? That's the water filter. Okay, our water is horrible.
Starting point is 01:10:46 You can look out of there. Congratulations. Get a Britta. We did, but it says that all it does is filter for taste. It doesn't actually filter anything. out. Who says that? The Brita filter. If you look on the packaging, there's literally a whole label that
Starting point is 01:10:58 says that it only filters odor and taste. It doesn't actually filter anything. And then we're back to the, to the sud stuff. Dual chamber composting. Yeah, we compost. Don't. That's good for the environment. It is. You just can't afford it.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Well, yeah, we don't pay anything for it now. You got to buy the composter, dude. Well, yeah. The thing is, listen, I will allow a justification of the case. I will allow justification of the composer. I will allow a justification of blah, blah, blah. But the thing is, all of a sudden with your conversation is becoming justified, justified, justified, justify, justify,
Starting point is 01:11:30 and this justified is stacking up so much to where you can't afford it, meaning it is no longer justified. We can justify a couple things here and there, but your justifications are so much on a monthly basis that it no longer works. Peppermint bullshit. I mean, this is fucking stupid, dude. This is so much buying.
Starting point is 01:11:51 You're getting so much. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Oh, four things in your car. Let's see. More pants. No. My boss literally two days ago told me that the pants that I'd been wearing to work are not in uniform.
Starting point is 01:12:04 More blue villa fucking filters because that's a forever investment. Yeah. Child safety cabinet locks. Oh, our freezer, the door does not stay closed all the way. Tell the landlord. We did. They said there's nothing they can do about it. Report it.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I did. To the state? Oh, no, I did not do that. I thought you meant to report to them. Well, I would just chat on. line and see if that's legal or not. Okay. The f***ed shower head?
Starting point is 01:12:30 I'm not buying that. I was not buying it. No, I was just looking at it. I just wanted to read it. But then I was looking at it and I didn't want to lose it. Going into your settings. Okay. You have the Sea World app, please for fuck sake.
Starting point is 01:12:42 That was only for that day. I did not buy it. I certainly hope. Yeah. I don't even, we don't even go off. Looking at the subscriptions. Oh my. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Expense. of AppleCare. Apple music, cozy gold, Duolingo, ICloud Plus, Lifesum Premium, lightroom photo and video, 50 bucks. All that you, 30 bucks,
Starting point is 01:13:05 40 bucks, dual legal, huge, structure. It's one button. Which one? Any of them. You can cancel all of them with one button right here. So shut the fuck if you try.
Starting point is 01:13:16 No, it says that I cancel. Lightroom, structured daily planner. Oh my fuck, use the notes app or something. Yuka. Yeah. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:13:25 even half of these. What is Lifesum and Yucca? LifeSum tracks your calories and your intake and stuff every day. You can do that. You can do that on the My Fitness app for free. No, you have to have a subscription for My Fitness. To track the calories? You have to have a subscription to use the fitness app. What? I didn't. Yeah. If you go into the Apple thing, it'll tell you you have to have a subscription I use that right now and I don't think I do. I don't know. They gave it to me. They tried to use for free. That's for that tells you. Life sum. Or what's the other one? The yucca.
Starting point is 01:13:57 That you didn't say. Yeah. That's, it tells you like what, it breaks down what ingredients are in each product to tell you if it's safe or not. That's because I have really bad problems with my hormones. So it tells me if things are endocrine deceptors or not. Oh, boy. I feel like that's reasonable. It's reasonable.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I just wonder if you're going to make it to like 60. Why? Because. No, it just seems very broken. Oh, yeah. No, I have a lot of problems. I'm not even going to lie about that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:23 City double cash. Yes. that is only balance transfers. Oh, apparently the Amazon card's actually at $300 now. Great. Yeah. Let's re-we're going back $300 to the Amazon card. Minimity payment.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Probably still like $35. Okay. City double cash. Another $1,465 to $75 to $75. Holy cuts of a thousand death by a thousand cuts, dude. Yeah. So, like, none of these balances are absolutely insane, but it's... What?
Starting point is 01:14:58 What is this card? It's only... balance transfers. Oh, you balance transfer? I was wondering what the fee was. It was zero. It was zero APR on that for 12 months. Yeah, but that's just a deferment. It's you. You think you make progress psychologically so you don't cut back. And we already saw you spent four times what you brought in. Yeah. So it's like you obviously psychologically feel like you're making progress with this and it's not working for you. Okay, $41 minimum fee payment. Yeah, there's your $40 fee, transfer fee. I was like, got very nervous seeing that fee. I was like, did she? No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. Okay. And yes, it is until October. Yes. That one I did know. 1465.75. October is, you'll have about five-ish months.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Five payments you can make with it for being safe. Okay, so $293.15 a month. So you need to pay this off. That's a chunky one. That is a chunky one. Okay, what do we have here? Okay, amount finance, $3,960. Finance charge $1,752.
Starting point is 01:16:07 What the fuck? The interest rates 25.53. What is this? Is that, I think that's the loan. That's the- It's a loan, yes. For what? It was a personal loan.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I paid off all of the cards that I had, and then I ended up spending on that again. How that work? Not well. No, yeah. So we're doing it again with balance transfers and using our IRS money. The balance transfer was before that. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Great. So we really didn't make our fucking... I thought that it was going to help me consolidate. And again, you spent four times that you made. Yeah. I thought it was going to help me consolidate. So it's like you still haven't learned your lesson today. Where we are today, you have not learned your lesson.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Today. I just thought it was going to help me consolidate it. Did you take this out? December. So right after... This last December? Oh, fucking shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:58 So the balance is still basically, it's going to be like $4,000. And you're going to pay a total of like $6,000. Or the history of it. Yeah. Okay. Loan, Great, Gonzalez, stupid fucking dacian. Yep. 158.67 a month?
Starting point is 01:17:16 Yes. Oh, boy, it's going to take forever to pay off. 158.67. I think it's a three-year loan, as far as I'm aware. What? They told me you took out the loan for moving expenses. Well, I was paid. Well, no, I paid off the cards that I had, and then I used those cards for moving expenses.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Oh. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Like, what moving expenses did you possibly have? My truck and trailer to move. Moving what? All my stuff. How much stuff did you have?
Starting point is 01:17:50 My sister, I got my family's bed set. When I moved down here in Austin, Texas, I, it was two seats in my sedan. Yeah, no, I had a lot of things. Get rid of it! Well, I can't get rid of, like, my pets and my tanks that I had. I moved with a cat down here. Well, yeah, but cats are a lot different than turtles. I had two turtles and two separate tanks.
Starting point is 01:18:08 You can't afford them. Well, I didn't know that at the time. Then you shouldn't get them. Your parents shouldn't have allowed you to get them. Then your parents shouldn't have allowed you to get them. My parents are broke too, so. Also, they're stupid? No.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Financially? No. Yes. I have no idea, honestly. They're broke, so they're probably stupid financially. Except for a few rare circumstances, in the vast majority of time, if you're in like your 50s and you broke, a lot of that was true. a lot. There are situations where it's not 100%, but a lot of it, so we can assume financially. So they would probably be stupid.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Oh, trust me. People, honestly, even the brokest of people are the ones that work hard because they get work the hardest because they get themselves in the worst situations ever out of their horrible actions in mismanagement of money that they're forced to work hard. Then they do things they don't even want to do longer than they want to do. Yeah. I mean, that's where the, before I moved, that's why the cards were so high. That's why I got the loan to pay them off. was because I was trying to help my parents out to not pay for their stuff,
Starting point is 01:19:12 but like pay for anything that was for me. You can't do that. It's not your job. Well, I'm aware of that now, but at the time, I mean, they didn't ask me to do or anything. No, no, no, no. I was just trying to make their lives easier because I saw how hard they were. I appreciate the heart of it. I know.
Starting point is 01:19:26 It's destroying your life. Like, they had, I'm the youngest to five kids. Did it really shouldn't be you? And they started having kids when they were young, obviously. You know? My parents, I don't know. No, but it's like, they tried to go to college. And then they couldn't afford college because obviously college is expensive.
Starting point is 01:19:42 And so my mom got a full-time job and my dad works full-time. He's working in like it's like construction, but I don't want to make it sound difficult. But it's basically like a construction job with plumbing. And so he works outside a lot of the time all day. And it's like I see. Exactly. And it scares me really bad. And I see how hard he works.
Starting point is 01:19:59 So I was just trying to like. But you putting things on credit cards without them changing the behavior that got them there in the first place is one enabling them. And then to try. My mom was at a day. She tries hard. Huh? My mom works at a bank. I mean, she tries hard to pay things off.
Starting point is 01:20:12 She works at a bank. No, I mean, she knows what she's doing. It just, it feels like we constantly get screwed. You don't have to work at a bank to know what you're doing, trust me. We got foreclosed on in Miami, and that's where a lot of it came from. Yeah. I don't really know how else to describe that. I'm just saying if I sat down with them.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Yeah. The trying. I bet two things happened from what you did. Three things. One, you had a good heart, and I appreciate that. Oh. Cool. Number two.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Yeah. Number three. Probably just enabled their behavior that they got them there in the first place. You based on everything I've seen on the show, that is likely what happened. Yeah. Well, the car payment is a lot of what's... So you had a trailer and all this stuff for moving? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Fuck, dude, for turtles and bullshit. Yeah. The fuck the dude. And that costs thousands? No, I wouldn't say thousands. I mean, that was just like all of it. How much did it cost? The trailer was probably about 300 for...
Starting point is 01:21:12 just like to move up here and then I had to pay for rent and stuff but I didn't have anything put aside so I paid rent the first month of rent was like basically on me because my boyfriend his stuff didn't start until he was in classes which was in January not December
Starting point is 01:21:29 so I had to pay for the first month does it does I mean I don't know to describe it no it does yeah that part's fine yeah but that's where like a good amount of it came from was that and everything just being built up for so long because I also put...
Starting point is 01:21:44 But you're not working there? Where in Gainesville? I was, but it was part-time because I was also helping take care of my grandma. Who's thinking care of your grandma now? My parents, when they come home. Otherwise, she's just home alone. Yeah, but what about when they're not home? Own it all. Pay off
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Starting point is 01:22:29 She's not, I mean, she can still do things. That means you could have worked more. Sorry, I'm a natural pushbacker. No, I wanted to, but it was my grandma asking me not to, like asking me to help her. Really? Well, she was asking me to stay and help her.
Starting point is 01:22:41 I mean. That's so hard. I know. It's so hard. But at a certain point, it also is just like, I never want to be in a position if I have kids that I am delaying them from actually being able to live their best life. And then I delayed them from starting their life for a decade. I mean, it delayed me from starting school until the spring. Yeah, it was supposed to start in the fall. But I stayed because she was not okay. I'm not against the heart of it. It's just the, it's just the. It's just like there's been a lot of things that have happened with my family and that have made it feel very stupid. It's 4,500 that you all currently. It's going to go much higher. Personal loan.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Oh, yeah. That I knew. I also had, there's also, I don't know if it's in there anywhere. Yeah, but this is separate. There's also probably some medical debt somewhere, not in here, because I can't find it. But I had knee surgery at 19 or 18. What happened? We have no idea.
Starting point is 01:23:34 It's not fixed. The surgery didn't fix it. Okay. But my knee dislocates on its own. What you did? Just like pop it in? I know how it works. I literally just force it back into place.
Starting point is 01:23:43 but I was going... Can I see? My mom has a video of it somewhere. Okay. We'll do that in the post show. Yeah, I was going to say, I can find it. Okay, so student loans, let's talk about that in a second. Let's go with what's here.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Student loans, again, I'm okay with you, bar and more. What's the intro salary for the position you're trying to get? I don't know the... What's the position you're trying to get? Any psychology, so therapist, anything like that, and they start around... Yeah, but you're going to need more than just a bachelor for therapy. No, because I can get the certification, which allows me to go. Yeah, which allows me to go right into it.
Starting point is 01:24:14 So basically, I can start out at $60,000 if I get that right away. Okay. And then it gets more with experience. I'm not saying to do this, but by the student loan rules, you can technically borrow $60,000. Yeah. In low interest federal student loans. See, I was going to. But because my mom started to make more, which she really didn't, it was just to cover the COVID relief, they pulled my funding.
Starting point is 01:24:39 So I couldn't get any funding for school. So a lot of, like, there's a bunch of, like, there's a bunch of, like, random. random school purchases. That's because my loan isn't there. I tried to un-subsidized federal. I tried to do unsubsicized and they said that I was not eligible for it. What does she make? I have no idea offhand.
Starting point is 01:24:51 But that's why this year, that's going to, so this semester, this upcoming semester or year or whatever, that's going to change. Because I'm considered independent now. There you go. So have you applied? Yes, I did. I just have to wait for this semester's grades to post before they tell me. But I did apply. That's not bad for being two years then.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Yeah. Oh, okay. So far. It's the good so-fi. It's the good so-fi. Okay, so if I check in account So that's all your debt You said you have some medical debt?
Starting point is 01:25:18 How big though? Probably. I genuinely would not know what to tell you. My mom did it. Well, if it's small, it's not going to show up on your credit. Okay, cool. But that's the only other thing I would know of. If it's large, it's going to take a bit to show up on your credit, but then it will.
Starting point is 01:25:28 My car is also debt. I don't know if that's where that is. Did I have that document? You didn't go through it yet, but Oh, I think the problem was that the car is in my mom's name. No, it's in, I'm the secondary on it. But I didn't have any credit. 23 and change I believe yes oh yeah no fucking what's the interest rate 5% I believe
Starting point is 01:25:50 okay that's not horrible that's an insane balance for something making $2,000 a month yeah I hate it that I genuine that's the one thing I can't even argue with you on because I hate that you can't argue with me on any of this honestly no but I genuinely did not want to pay that it's a 2019 Chevy Colorado they haven't even heard of that it's worth $12,000 it's a mid-sized truck it's worth $12,000 The dealership told me it was worth $17.5. When? Right before I moved.
Starting point is 01:26:19 It was worth $12,626 median. Okay. Private party, which is usually higher than dealerships. That makes, all right. I mean, I believe you. I just, I checked it. Even if it's 17, you're down five. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:26:31 No, I hate that fact. Because I tried to go in and trade it in for something cheaper and it would have put me in more debt. So I didn't do that because the car was worth for us. Well, you're underwater. Yeah. Miner monthly payment? Five fifteen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:44 It's horrible. For how long? I think another two years. It was five years. It was five years. It's been three years and you still owe 23? No, wait. It's been two years.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Two full years. Three more years. Three more years. Yeah. Sorry. Okay. Almost two thousand are checking the count. That is not bad.
Starting point is 01:27:01 But it is up from 44 when you started. So I feel like we're in just that part before you go down again to where you were. Probably. And you went in and got some bullshit. Went in got some bullshit. Bullshit. Dirty Dogs car wash B S. B S.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I told you about the car wash thing. That was a sufficient. But there's two. Yeah, because I had the credit card and then that checking account. There should not be another one on the credit card. There is.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Great. That's what we were looking at earlier. Awesome. Yeah. First watch. Oh, that one is my boyfriend's car. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:27:32 The checking account. Why is it on your checking account? Because we share that checking account. You share with a boyfriend. Yes. Don't. Separate. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Skims. B.S. Always walking out of the grocery store or something of like $4. That I hate. This I hate. Savings went down from $5,500 to $1,300. What happened? That is because my...
Starting point is 01:27:56 What are skins even? It's for bras and stuff. It's not expensive. It is expensive, though. Are there Amazon Basics bras? Yeah, but they all suck and they wear out really fast. So I just assumed it was better to get the one. I thought we were all free in the nip anyway.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I do. Look at me. I can't at work, though. That's the problem. I would, totally, but I can't at work. The thing with that, that money partially was not mine. It was strictly school. That was savings for school.
Starting point is 01:28:23 From who? Like family from a long time ago. And then I had it in there. So that was not like my money. Does that make sense? It was just sitting in there because that savings account had a better interest rate than my original. savings account. So I just had it in there because I felt like it was better to keep it there.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Yeah. Where to go? To school. It went to tuition. 100% went to tuition. My tuition was like at least nine grand or something like that. I only got like a thousand in there. Yeah. Another ticket account 300 bucks and they started with 195. It looks like the payroll coming in. Yeah. Part of my paycheck goes there for my car because my mom pays it. In the savings account for that. Oh, Publix 401K? And that's going to go up because I got full time. won pretty good. Are you only taking the match? I think so, yes. Only take the match. Yes. I don't know what the match is, but only take it.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Do you know what the match is? No, I do not, because I just started that. Like, I just started changing it because I got full time. So I could, I only had one option when I was part time. And it was, hey, do this. Don't look at the market. You know, no, I don't. It's a percentage of my check and I can choose the percentage. I think right now it's at like 10 or something. But I, I have no idea about retirement stuff. Let's get you a budget. Okay. Total income $2,000.
Starting point is 01:29:44 What's your portion of rent? About 800. Fuck me. I know. Too expensive. If I go on Zillow right now, I cannot find a place cheaper. Probably not. What happens if I prove you wrong?
Starting point is 01:29:55 I mean, I'm in a lease, so there's really nothing I can do about it. Well, not have gone into at least you said you were looking forever, but also we can potentially get out. But either way. Why isn't recently sold? I don't care about that. No, on the coast? No. Well, kind of. We're 10 minutes from the beach, but we're not like on the water.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Oh, for fuck sake. The college is right there, I mean, it's kind of... No, I'm just saying, for fucking spring break, you're already where everyone goes. Yeah. You're right, it is going to be probably expensive. You said, fucking Orlando. Yeah, I said near Orlando. What do you pay for your too bad?
Starting point is 01:30:29 The total is 170791, I believe, every month. Okay. But then we split that. 17, you said? Yeah, 17. So let's just say, you. Okay, I have 75 rentals available for 1,400 or less. Is that including any utilities or anything?
Starting point is 01:30:45 Some, I'm sure. Lots of $1,200 ones, lots of $1,200 apartments. Lots of $1,200 apartments. And it's one bedroom. You guys already sleep together. It's okay. Utilities, how much? About less than $50.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Because it's the only one. So utilities aren't included anywhere. Internet, how much? We don't pay for Internet. It's included. Gas, room, room, drive, drive for you. Maybe $40 every two weeks?
Starting point is 01:31:11 Two weeks. Okay, so 80. Okay. Car insurance. On a month, I pay every six months. How much every six months? Around $900, I believe. It went up because I moved, which I don't understand why.
Starting point is 01:31:24 $150 a month. Phone bill. I don't pay for that. You do use helium if T-Mobile service is good in your area. I was planning of it. I was planning to. I'm going to do your minimum payments and not what you should put towards those two zero percenters to pay it off.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Obviously, no payments on the student loans now, but the car really. 90567 is owed on a monthly basis. I mean, you're already over. So it's like a TP fund, you can do 100. You can do 300 of groceries. Again, use the cookbook. Okay? Comes with the premium version of the budgeting app.
Starting point is 01:31:58 And you can get a physical version signed. If you sign up for the annual version, I'll mail it to you. Medical on a monthly basis. I know you're broken. How much? 60 for meds, I believe. Not bad. Jim?
Starting point is 01:32:09 Don't. I don't need it. I have no subscriptions. How many cats? Two. Health and age? Both five and they're both healthy. Get pet insurance on budgeting 60 bucks.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Okay. You're $500 under. $511. $67 cents under. Under like what I make? Okay. But I can't have you working more hours. In fact, I might cut.
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Starting point is 01:33:08 20, what's your semester cost? What? What's your semester cost? Last semester was nine out of pocket because I had scholarships. Because I had scholarships. And I get to keep the scholarships. So this semester I'm in. You're in your first semester. Yeah. Three more to go?
Starting point is 01:33:21 At this college. Mm-hmm. At least. Yeah. Okay. 27,000. I'm okay with that. Borrow that.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Okay. For student loans. No more out-of-pocket expenses. Everything you have is going to life expenses. Okay. But you're still under. You guys need to downgrade your apartment when you can. I'm planning on that, actually.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Well, I plan on go talking to your office and ask if you can get out. Okay. If it's expensive to break, then don't. But that's a conversation you're going to have tomorrow. We had to get the iPad. We had to get all this bullshit. Return the iPad. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:04 When did you buy it? Like a little under a month ago. I think Best Buy is two weeks. Go cry. Okay. Go cry to them. We know you can do it. Hey, that's not fair.
Starting point is 01:34:17 I'm kidding. Just go into Best Buy. I think they have a two-week return policy. Beg, beg, beg, beg, beg. We can't afford life. Which is true. Which is true. Let's just get rid of the minimum of payment.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Any minimum of payment we can just strip away the better. At least that one's zero APR. If you can actually sell your car for $17,000, sell your car for $17,000. To anybody To borrow 500 private sale preferably Okay Borrow 6 It's going to be hard
Starting point is 01:34:49 You can borrow the 6,000 hours And then you can pay it off personal loan And then get a 10,000 hour car loan for a 10,000 hour car That brings you down to 16,000 hours That's less debt to pay off But I bet your minimum fee payments are going to be pretty similar With both those loans combined So that doesn't save you on the monthly basis
Starting point is 01:35:06 I would still do that But I'm trying to figure how to get you there on a monthly base I did try to do the whole You might do a part of student loans for living expenses but you do not have one single cent of going out to eat or fun or anything. No more Legos, no nothing. I don't know how you've survived that at this point. I did tell him we can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:35:25 In the summer, are you working or are you? Working. No, I'm absolutely working. Then you are killing yourself in the summer. You were going 80 hours a week. 80 hours a week, realistically 60 hours. But just go hard. The hardest you can push you to you. your limit so that you can save up enough to funnel your living expenses for the next school year.
Starting point is 01:35:46 And that gets us even. Is that with work? Is that with going to school in the summer too? Because I'm also going to school in the summer. Sorry. I said school or work. Oh, I'm sorry. No.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I'm, How much school? Full time still. Why? If you're doing three more semesters. Because I'm also doing the minor. So I'm trying to get them all done. And you have to.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Well, we have to pay for that too, though. I think this summer is cheaper, though. I didn't calculate that into the student loans. Listen, you might borrow about $40,000 to go to school. I'm okay with that as long as you actually finish this, kill it and get into a good paying $60,000 intro career and move your way up from there. If that's actually the intro, if it's less than that,
Starting point is 01:36:30 then you can not borrow this much. Maybe you're borrowing $40,000, and some of that is subsidizing your lifestyle, but you're going to work your ass off in the summer as well. Yeah. If you ever need an extra, there's nothing for psychologists. but I can always, of course,
Starting point is 01:36:43 gift you a course career certification. Yeah. Just maybe your boyfriend. I don't know. Honestly, that would be great for him. Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, I mean, work as much as you can.
Starting point is 01:36:54 You're going to be in a deficit. It's okay to federal student loan borrow some of it. What happens if they do the same thing they tried to do last year and they don't give it to me? Like, they don't let me take. Well, you said your status is different. I hope, I mean, I hope they give it to me,
Starting point is 01:37:05 but Florida student loans right now are really stupid. All the time. I'm constantly doing that. Keep going. Keep going. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if that happens, then we can have a conversation. We can go from there.
Starting point is 01:37:17 But I'm going off the assumption that you can. I've just already put a lot into the school, so I don't want to, like, give up on it. I'm not saying you can give up either, but if you have to take one year to save up for the next two years of living expenses, like, that's not going to be the worst. Like, I'm okay with you starting this career, 23. I had even considered doing that, but I had already pushed my application back, and they told me they weren't going to let me. Now that you're in, ask if you can take a year off. Yeah, like a gap. So they just say I need to do it to save up some money.
Starting point is 01:37:43 And if you start your career at 24, that's not a bad thing. Yeah. Okay. So there's a lot of options here, okay? Also, that's what you need to start doing. If anything with, if anything with like that doesn't work out, the store I work for, the managers make at least $100,000 a year. So I could always move out. But that's going to demand a lot of your time, which takes away from school.
Starting point is 01:38:03 And it's not going to be as flexible. I'm saying like if the school thing doesn't work out. Oh, if I can't. Yeah. I mean, I still have, I have two options for good career. Yeah, like, I'm not like stuck at nothing, you know. Well, join us for the post show. We're going to call the boyfriend and confess how bad this actually is because he doesn't really know.
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Starting point is 01:38:39 it's really not the worst of day you're just being very stupid with it the car is dumb but it's gonna get two out of ten the car brings it down pretty hard emergency phone one out of ten because that's all you got really there retirement for your income and where you actually are your retirement for your age is quite good I'm gonna give that a
Starting point is 01:38:57 I'm so excited for that one seven out of ten real estate zero out of ten and that's not expected at this age so it's gonna be not too shabby because you did stock up a good starting retirement. So two out of ten, not bad for 21.
Starting point is 01:39:15 While in college and being in debt, that is not that bad of a score. Yay. I'm going to Norway. You tib-you don't have enough money. Two vacations? Why possibly? What? Because it's my family's vacation.
Starting point is 01:39:27 I don't give a f***. They can pay for it then. Call your boyfriend. Put them on speakerphone. I have to tell you all of my debt. How much do you think your girlfriend, Sabrina's debt is? 5,000? Yeah, it's a lot more than that.
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