Financial Audit - White Girl Would Rather .. Like.. Eat Than Grow Up 💅🏻 | Financial Audit

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. I like to believe I'm a responsible person. Uh-huh. That Capital One credit card was supposed to be the emergency credit card. No, it was Chipotle. It was Chipotle. It was Door-dashing some Chinese food. In the moment, it feels like purchases that are necessary. Topoli, how supportive is supposed to be you talking about? It's fuel. Fuel for power.
Starting point is 00:00:22 What the fuck up. Hi there. My name is Danielle. I'm 24, and I am from San Marcos, Texas. And this is financial audit. There it is. Thanks for coming here. I appreciate it. What do you do for a living in San Marcos? I am a crash investigator and a trivia host. A crash investigator? Car crashes. Yes. Okay. Is that a full-time job?
Starting point is 00:00:46 It is. I just recently got that one too. It's pretty cool. I used to be a pit master at Blacks Barbecue in San Marcos. It's very different. Yes. Yes. Well, I graduated from Texas State. My major is health science. And it's absolutely impossible to find a job that pays more than $10 an hour in, like, that field without experience. Sure. So you're not willing to put in the time at that, you know, lower level to build up the experience? Because you're not getting the experience in the crash job, are you?
Starting point is 00:01:20 I am. Believe it or not, the company that I'm working for is a public health sector. Okay. So I'm actually in school right now getting my public health education and promotion degree. I thought you said you graduated from. Yes, I graduated from Texas State with my bachelor's, and now I'm getting my master's degree. Oh, you're getting your master's.
Starting point is 00:01:37 How much are we spending on school right now? Oh, my goodness. That could be good. That could be good. What was the master's degree you're going for again one more time? Public health education and promotion. Education. So what does that look like?
Starting point is 00:01:49 What are you going to do with that? I want to work for the CDC, ideally. I want to help make programs. So like when the world fell apart with COVID, I want to help aid and the world falling apart a little bit less. So you have to wait for every 100 year pandemic to have a job? I guess so. One that'll pay decently.
Starting point is 00:02:10 What is this position called? I want to look at like median pay. Oh, like the one I want to be. Yeah, what do you want to be? I want to be an epidemiologist. Oh, okay. And you can get that with this master's degree? Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Epidemiologist. $81,390 as of May 21,000. 23 and it tends to range from 73 to mid-80s. So median, apparently, United States is around $181,000. So that's obviously a lot more than $10 an hour. Okay. So what's going on here? Because obviously, so you're in Masters right now.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You're in Masters with a lot of debt, lots of different kinds of debt. We have like all the variations, all the little collections that we can get to, you pluck, pluck, pluck, pluck, you plucked all. all the debts out. So what is going on? What are we looking at today? Oh my goodness. Well, today you're seeing a lot of moving costs that I are a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:12 From where and why? I will never understand this. I, like, I've moved cross country and I did it for less than $1,000. Like, I'm, I know everyone wants to, like, hold onto their stuff. And, like, you know, that makes moving expensive. I sold, like, everything and just packed up a zan. It's like, I'm going to go start a life. And then you just build the,
Starting point is 00:03:30 furniture over the course of a year, but like, what did it cost you to move? And that's all your debt was moving? A lot of it was moving. What'd you move from? Okay. So I am originally from Brownsville, Texas. Of course, this giant move is just in San Marcos. Yeah. Two to three hours north? Three to four hours north? Well, so I moved to San Marcos as a freshman, but the really expensive move is actually just like, are you telling me literally going into freshman year of college was this debt? No, no. No. No. No. The move into a freshman year. It's a freshman year of college was this debt. No, no, no. The move into freshman year.
Starting point is 00:04:01 No, it's even worse than that. You are just absolutely joyful, aren't you? Yes. I smile and I'm nervous. Oh, wow. Yes, yes. No, the move is actually just like a 10-minute move. Yeah, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But if it- Are you talking about it? Well, okay, if it helps a lot, a lot of this debt is divided between four people. So. Well, how much did it cost? How much did it cost you this move for four minutes away? Oh, my gosh. Well, so I moved from an apartment, which is a really expensive apartment, and I moved into a house for the first time.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So with moving costs and everything, oh, my gosh. What do you mean moving costs? Like deposits and like pet fees. Okay. See, when I think moving costs, I thought you're paying people to pack up your shit. No. Move on in a truck and move to like a different city or different state. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I was moving. So you're just talking about just getting into a new place, putting the security. You didn't get your security deposit back from the previous place? Not yet. We literally just moved out everything about two days ago. So I've been living in this house for about a month, but I've been paying for two rents for the last two months. Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yes. So why did you sign up for this? Honestly, because I have never taken the time to sit down and look at all my finances and I'm clearly not doing well. And I think I need an eye opener, seriously. Okay. Especially because a lot of these purchases that I've made,
Starting point is 00:05:35 I genuinely feel like I need them. So I clearly don't know how to cut the fat off properly on something other than a brisket. But yeah. Well done. That's a good one. The look of disappointment is crazy. Well, it's just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Paying rent for two months as a student. I don't. Yeah. I feel like that's the dumbest thing. never as an adult with a full-time job maybe i kind of get it and you do have a full-time job but you're trying to do the school thing i'm i don't know it may not have made sense unless there's like a reason why we're saving more over the long term because of the new place that's where we could make make it work but well ideally that would be the case so at my last place my rent with my bills
Starting point is 00:06:19 and all that was over a grand with utilities and such um now at this new place while the upfront costs were a lot the rent will end up being like five six or six and So it should be going down pretty much. But I know that, you know, the first few months are going to be pretty like making up all of the debt that I put myself in. I did take out a pretty large loan trying to move. But I think I was over preparing because I didn't know how much this was going to cost. What did you take out? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh, I did. So your security deposit. You took out a loan for. Yes. Okay. How much? How much possibly? Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I think it was like three and a half grand, I want to say. How much are you making in this crash job? I make $21 an hour. How many hours a week do you work? 40. And then I also do trivia on the side. How much you're making with trivia on the side? $35 an hour and I work about 10 hours a week.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So each check I get from there is roughly about like tomorrow I'm getting paid $420. Got $550 in. Then payroll $2,852. Does that sound like a normal month for you? Roundabout. Okay. Oh, wait. So like for the whole month payroll for my crash job.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. Probably for the whole month. It's a little closer to like $2,800. I get about $14,000. I said $2,800. Oh, I misheard you. I'm sorry. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It's okay. It's okay. So your total income that comes in through both net is $3,402. Now you had some sales coming and everything and obviously spending went out. What do you think went out? What do you think went out in the most? recent month? Went out in like what way.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Number, your accounts, leaving, debt going up. How much money was spent overall? Probably most of it, honestly. That's not a number. Okay. Can I say 3,000? Sure can. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:15 The correct answer would be 12,000. Wow. Really? How the fuck are you that far off? Yeah. I'm really far off. I guess I thought I understood a little bit more. Have you been surviving?
Starting point is 00:08:33 If you don't, if you're that far off, how much in debt do you have? Total? Probably like, well, are we counting student loans too? Because I haven't really gotten a chance to deal with student loans because I'm student loans because you didn't send us a statement for that. So without that, what? How much? Oh my gosh, probably like 15 grand. Okay, that one you're a little closer on.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So you're close to understanding at least your debt situation. But where your money's going, you don't know. Not fully. Now, for what it's where, 6,400 went to housing, but even still, you take that and get rid of that, minus housing, you still spend $6,000 bucks, and you brought in $3,4002. That's not sustainable.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You can't live off of that. That makes no sense. So get rid of the unique housing thing, and you're still by double. Okay, what if I were to tell you that part of the loan that I used was for auto insurance. That helps? Well, I didn't plan on renewing at that rate, but it was pay like $150 a month for six months.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Or I think up front it was going to be like $7.80 something. And I get wanting to do that. But like what interest rate did you borrow that at? And then there's minimum monthly payments for that. So that loan, that was part of the loan that I had gotten for moving. Like I kind of wanted to keep. Yeah, but didn't mean you have to use it. all? I didn't intend to use it all. And did you use it all? Yes. Yes. That kind of finished off
Starting point is 00:10:07 whatever I had left over from that loan. And I had anticipated like using the loan and then whatever I had left over right after move and all the double rents returning it and paying it straight back to that loan. And then I guess I can use the excuse life happened, but auto insurance was a lot more than I intended. I'm pretty new with auto insurance if I'm being honest. and a lot of the things with the car, which I'm sure you'll see. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. I'm assuming we have a lot to get into.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yes. Okay. Well, I want to hear self-assessed. Where do you think you are in the world of finances? Zero being the worst, ten being the best. Where do you think you are? Probably like a four. Oh, look who we have everyone.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Oh, well, I was going to pick her up and show. There's a dog here. I was going to show everybody. So you think you're four. You think you're straight down the middle? Yes. you make right around the median uh well the median monthly income of an individual in san marcos is 3,950 hello come here she loves attention she's got the here she is everybody here she is what's her name for the audience
Starting point is 00:11:17 that is miss sparkle pants miss sparkle boy oh oh oh it's your boy boy he has she is miss sparkle pants it's right you're so cute okay we're going to film an episode now but nice seeing you miss Parckel pants. Editors make sure you're putting sparkles all over the screen. I know. It's okay. You can trust me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So you're actually probably making after taxes. You're making above the median individual earner in Marcos. Okay. Yet you're fucking it all up somehow. Yeah. Have you on your hammer financial score? It's free link in the description below. And if you have interesting stories, interesting financial situations, opinions
Starting point is 00:11:59 who want challenge. If you find yourself to be an interesting person, apply to be on the show. We're happy to have anyone on Calebhammer.com slash apply. All right. Let's start the debt journey. Here we go. Capital One. So, why are we going to do the Capital One debt?
Starting point is 00:12:17 And better question, why the f***ing you spending on it when it's accruing fees, interest, and you're not in your only make, and you purchase double what you put towards it. You can cope, giggle through that. I get that that's why you're doing that. I'm not going to allow that to piss me off. You're coping. I get it. But why the fuck? Yes. Okay. So that Capital One credit card was supposed to be the emergency credit card that you never use ever. No, no, no. Emergency credit card.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Let's get rid of that. Let's get rid of that term. It is a thing in many households and that's why we're... Okay. Emergency fund. A stack of cash sitting in a high-ield savings account that you use only in the case of emergencies. I get it if you don't have it and you have to use an emergency credit card to save your dog's life. I do get that. And then you do it. And then you sacrifice everything, everything, everything in your life to pay it off as quick as possible. And then save off a fully funded emergency phone. And that's what you do if you have to use an emergency credit card because you don't have an emergency fund.
Starting point is 00:13:11 But guess what? You're just using this on an emergency thing. You're going inside. I get a drink for a gas station. Going to the cinema and going to, what is this, what is this John Casablanca thing? That's what you're doing. You're doing those three things. Those are not emergencies.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Those are not emergencies. So emergency credit card, fuck off. That's not true. What's John Casablanca? John Casablanca is an acting school So I do love public health That's what I enjoy doing That's what I went to school for
Starting point is 00:13:42 But I would really like to work in advertising Austin Wait did you say advertising school or acting school? It's like acting school So they'll teach you how to do commercials and such So I've been What is up with people in Austin? I mean
Starting point is 00:13:57 This is not an acting town, is it? I thought it was But What movies are made here What movie studios are based here That's true Can I say Hammer Studios Is that allowed
Starting point is 00:14:13 You can but it's Hammer Media Hammer Media Sorry It's okay Plus we're not doing our commercial Anyway That's true But I like the Takedo sign
Starting point is 00:14:27 By the way in the front That was pretty cool Isn't that pretty cool? Hey show me your commercial skills plug our budgeting course. Plug for the audience. Let's see how good you are in your acting skills. Plug the budgeting course and the investing course.
Starting point is 00:14:46 To the audience. Hello. There you go. Okay. Yeah, plug it. But I don't know. Get them to sign it up. They're all bundled together at a lower price right now.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Okay. Both of the courses. Both of the courses. Teaching you how to bundle, teach you know how to invest, as you know. and then you get them for free because you're a guest on the show. Give us your acting skills. Let's see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Hi, guys. If you guys are interested in saving money, go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm just nervous. Oh, my gosh. I'll tell you how to not save money. And that's going to acting school while you're already in masters, while you're already floundering the income you have,
Starting point is 00:15:21 while you already have debt, while you can't pay off a card while fees are accruing while interest is accruing. Yep. Yeah, that's not how we budget. A pass two fee. Pass do fee. Is that on the capital one or? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Oh. You know, I should. What are you doing? I need to turn on auto pay. What do you not have auto pay on? I thought I, okay, I like to believe I'm a responsible person. Uh-huh. And yeah, that's good to have beliefs about bull that lead us down a wrong path.
Starting point is 00:15:53 That's great. That historically has led to amazing situations for everyone. Oh, yeah. It led me to acting school. And how's that going? Well. What if I tell you it's a work in progress? I believe it.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Well, I mean, that I actually did just stop doing that purchase because I've been paying for it and I thought it was going to be a lot shorter than it was. Have you learned anything? You're a giggly, bubbly, happy person. I'm sure everyone absolutely loves you. Are you, did you get anything from it? Well, so. And you want to work in public health anyway, so I don't understand. hand will tap. Excema is unpredictable. But you can flare less with Epglis. A once-monthly
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Starting point is 00:17:40 One day I'd like to have a family. I'd like to have children and I definitely want to be able to provide for them. And doing things like going for acting and just, you know, thinking I'm going to be a star like I'm on X, you know. And you're going to a class for it. It's an online. It's a Zoom thing. So they think. So you don't find that you have natural talent for it?
Starting point is 00:17:58 I guess I just don't think that I'd be given the opportunity because on paper, I'm a nobody. They're not going to cast someone based on going to a class, though. It's going to be based on talent. Well, they say that at the end of paying for the classes and attending them, you have to attend them. Oh, boy, here we go. That they will give you all these auditions for you to go to. And I'm hoping that that's the case. But I haven't had the time.
Starting point is 00:18:21 But you just canceled it. I did because I've been paying for these classes and I haven't been attending them. For how long? probably since like March and it's $75 a week and you're literally missing $75 a week what are you on you can that's a car payment
Starting point is 00:18:38 you can reschedule them and I've paid I have a bang whatever we rescheduled like 50 now yes and you're literally missing payments on credit cards so I don't think we're doing $75 a week acting bullshit yeah and that's why I paused it and I was like you know if I catch up
Starting point is 00:18:52 pause it pause it cancel burn oh well I think Listen, I know a lot of people that go to classes to do things that involve talent, and then there's the people out there that have talent that actually do it. I'm not saying you can't be an actor, but I've seen the people go around them, the roller coaster of going through the classes for the things that they wish they were better at. Classes for things like education in terms of like engineering and stuff,
Starting point is 00:19:23 that's absolutely great and public health, absolutely fantastic. And going to theater school and stuff like that, that can be good. And obviously there's a lot of experiences in there. But I don't know, things that sell you like this, this is what sketches me out. Like if you were like at NYU acting school, it's different, right? Yes, 100%. And, you know, there's, again, like back to the thing. I feel like I have all of these different things.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Like I love to cook. I'm a power lover. What? I applied to be on Master's Chef and I'm really hoping that I can be on it actually. Gordon, if you're seeing this, I guess. She won't stop laughing. So if you like bubbly, Gordon, she's yours. Well, I guess.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I'm more of a Joe Bastionage fan myself, though. He's the scary one. He's a great man. He's a scary one. I think that you'd get along with him great. He's cool. You have the look of disappointment, like, on point. I think that I'm always expecting to go bald in my life.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Okay. Just because everyone around me is, but I take finessex. necessary to avoid it. And that's been working, luckily, knock on wood. But people like Joe, he pulls off bald well. And I'm like, if I'm bald, I want to look like Joe Bastionage. He has a nice earring now, too. I don't know if you've seen it. It's pretty cool. Well, I don't know if I can pull that off. All right. So, and then we went to Creekside Cinema to go see people who are successful in acting. Yes. And then on the way, you stopped at a gas station and got some bowl, some drinks, some snacks. Yeah, I got a bottle of water because, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:55 For my dog? For my dog. I know, but like, like, like, $5 and you can get like the, like, Texas Star water packs, like a million water bottles and just store them in your trunk. Yes. Well, so my car doesn't have AC, like just writing. Water bottles. Well, yeah, but I don't want my dog to drink hot water. Bring it with you from your fridge.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yes. This is stupid. You're literally missing your payments. Yeah. You're spending double what you make And you make above the median in your area So I don't know what the fuck you're talking about I figured you'd be pissed about that
Starting point is 00:21:31 No shit what do you think that's stupid Yeah Well Death of a thousand cuts and I know what the rest of these statements look like So if it was just that alone No it wouldn't be But it's not just that alone Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:44 Plus it's a 30% interest rate anyway 30.74% interest rate Okay so if I'm being real I don't Please Yes, I don't fully understand how interest rates work. Okay. I know another large charge on there was for getting my AC fix.
Starting point is 00:22:01 We had this whole car issue, which I'll tell you about once you yell at me about those purchases. And I'm sure I will. Yes. Okay, so of your balance that is sitting there, essentially you have to calculate 30% of it is essentially amateurized throughout the year. It's divided out on a monthly basis. So the balance that is sitting here, it would essentially, right now the interest rate, that would hit $538.71. Times that by point, what was your interest here again? That's what I'm trying to get. Point 3074. So that would be $165.60 essentially. So I'm going to divide that by 12. So it would break it out over that time,
Starting point is 00:22:47 which would give you kind of an interest rate, interest added on a monthly basis, like this next month of probably $13. 80 cents, which exactly from because your balance was lower last time, your balance is at 447. So when it calculated that, you had interest accrued this previous month of $12.19. This video is sponsored by Taylor Brands. Are you ready to start your dream business but feel like the paperwork and legal stuff is just too much? Let me introduce you to today's sponsor, Taylor Brands. Taylor Brands is the ultimate business builder for anyone wanting to start, manage, and grow their business. They make getting an LLC super easy and affordable, taking care of all the paperwork for you.
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Starting point is 00:24:28 Because genuinely, I mean, I get your mail. One, I don't trust you in any interest rates because you also don't know how to pay cards. So I would do a charge card like the Fizz card that forces you to pay it off on a monthly basis anyway. And the interest rate that is good to go for is more looking on the investing side, the compound side. Say I open up my broker, Jammu, and I buy into the S&P 500. At best, all up years down years combined, I'm getting a 10% return on average on a yearly basis. A third, that's a third of the interest rate that's on your card,
Starting point is 00:24:59 meaning you're losing your best hope in like the overall stock market by three times. Oh my gosh. So what interest rate is good? Things that are 4% or less. I wouldn't trust you with them because I don't think you know how to use them. So it doesn't matter whether or not you have a good rate. You'd abuse it. But good?
Starting point is 00:25:21 4% or less on a mortgage on a student loans Okay, on a car even Depending Well, I see all those pieces of mail, you know There's a million, all of these Oh, you got approved You've been doing so great on this and that So you have all these good at a lot options
Starting point is 00:25:37 Don't do those those those are like like You've probably seen credit one show up I mean I That's one of the things that that capital one was I mean it's my fault I get that But also I thought that it was good Don't, don't, don't. Don't. Don't. You know why? Do you think they're giving free money? They want to make money. They're a company. You are their product.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Well, you're their customer. Their product is the card. But yeah. I guess I thought I understood it better than I did. You didn't even know what an interest rate was. So you don't know. And that's okay that you didn't know, but don't think that you do if you don't even know how interest works. Yeah. Well, I honestly, I thought interest was kind of like you owe 30% more than what you said you were going to pay or something. In a way, kind of, I guess. Yeah. See, this is why I need to take. I'm glad that you're going to like, you've been explaining this stuff to me because I don't and I've never taken the time to just sit down and look at all this stuff and try to figure it out. Well, that's why I'm happy you're here because obviously you need the help. Let me tell you. Let me fucking tell you. Yeah, because you have a card that's almost that it's max.
Starting point is 00:26:49 The next one. The Discovery 8 card. Yeah. Why is this so high? Tell me the story behind this card. Why are we at $4,449,0.43 cents? Because I was a dumb 20-year-old. It was my first credit card and it very quickly added up.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And I, that's, oh, my gosh. I feel like I'm going to be worth. With what, though? At quickly added up with what? Rent. Rents on a credit card. on debt. Okay. Again, I don't know what income you made then, but you do not make it insubstantial amount of income. Oh, and even then, I didn't make, I made less. That's when I was ricking at
Starting point is 00:27:26 Black's barbecue. Yeah. And so I was making substantial, and I wasn't doing trivia on the side either. So it was making substantially less. I'm sure you're great at trivia. You have a personality. That would be really good as an MC. Oh, thank you. I'm welcome. It's a lot of fun, actually. I have a whole tournament if you want to come to you. I'm sure. I do like trivia. My friends and I would do trivia. It's been a second, but we do. That's cool. Cool. I think also that job is kind of what led me to think, maybe try acting school. Really? Yes. Okay. Okay. Well, okay. My boss. Okay. Well, let's not connect those dots again. Okay. Noted. Let's connect the dots on how stupid this credit card is and how you're basically at the max.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And that you have a $125 minimum monthly payments. Yes. Which is, you know, once these start stacking up, it starts getting rough, but even still with your income, you should be able to be making more than your minimumity payments. Oh, it looks like you put an extra $10 towards it. Wonderful. But $10. of interest accrued. $104.12. Now, thank you for not purchasing on this card. Yes. Probably because it's at it's max almost.
Starting point is 00:28:24 No, no, because I've been trying to, like, literally just like, that's like the no-no card. The no-no card? How long has it been the no-no card? Because this app maxed out, basically. Well, that's why it's a no-no card. Since when has it been no-no? I mean, since I mixed it out.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I've been just trying to pay. When did you max it out? I think two years ago. No, you haven't, you haven't only been paying the, You want, no, no. This hasn't been two years of payments. That's impossible. I swear to you.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I'm sorry, I swear to you. You haven't put a single cent on here in two years. Not. And you've only made a few hundred dollars of progress. It would take 18, well, it would take 18 years to pay it off only doing the minimum of payments. 18 years to pay off. I think I paid a really large amount. Half of that was damages to my, to my previous previous apartment.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It was ridiculous, really, really bad. Highest damages ever. So I definitely did not have two, I think it was like 2,300 lying around. And so that's where that came from. And now it's the no-no card because I cannot, obviously I have no room to spend on it. I actually, I don't even have that card right now. I haven't like, I lost it because my wallet got stolen a while back. And I haven't even activated another card like that because I'm just trying to pay it off.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And I genuinely, like, I don't know if I should be paying more than the money. You're trying to pay it off. It doesn't look like it. Fair enough. I guess, well, I don't know how much to do on these. It's going to take 18 years. 18 years to pay this off via the minimum fee of the minimum fee of the payment. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So, I just don't know how large of a payment I should be making. Well, we're going to talk about that in the end when we go through your budget and then your debt payoff strategy because this is dependent on your entire situation. But, you know, likely if we went avalanche, you would want to start attacking this thing crazy. He says your credit scores at 628. Oh. I try, well, because I try.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Were you happy with that? Well, no, but it was much lower not that long ago. Thank you for not missing payment on this. This one's still at 28.24% interest. Oh. Do you feel you understand now what interest means a bit more? Yes. You know, for a little while that that was like the student card, the Discover student card.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So there was an interest on it for a while. And then I think I had like a little while. a year. Again, it's a compounding thing. Like I explained in the market, this, that 28%, you're not just paying that on the current balance, but as that is amateurized throughout the rest of the year and adds the interest, that adds the interest to the balance. And then you're paying interest on top of that new balance. So you're paying interest on the interest that accrued. So I'm literally just paying interest like every month? It says compounding. Yeah, your money is basically just going to the interest and then a little bit of principle, essentially. I had no
Starting point is 00:31:13 idea. That's terrifying, actually. Well, I mean, that card has been like the number one. Again, like with it being the quote unquote no-do card. I just like, that's, I know. No, like that's just. This is the FU. Card. It's destroying your life. Yes. No, seriously. I mean, I, and I get it.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I, you know, my parents warned me with a credit card. You got to be careful. Why didn't you listen? I really thought I did. Send this to every 18-year-old out there just, that just, that just, turned 18. No, seriously. That credit card, I mean, it's been such a pain in the ass, seriously.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Because I, again, I know you said we're going to talk about in a little while, but I don't know how to navigate, like... We will. Paradee present, Ojos with Alerjia and Picasson, Contral Gerdinero. And the Gannador is Parade, Extra Fuerte.
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Starting point is 00:32:13 card you us a a well this balance is basically the same so this is just going four thousand four hundred fourteen dollars and seventy five cents so these balances they're just going up yes yes so the I initially got that card to help with my previous move new purchases you I don't get it again I want to see you do so well just like any guess on the show do you mean yeah Sorry. I've been trying to use the USAA card. I'm sorry. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I'm just like, I'm just like, ah. I've been trying to use that more for like gas and stuff or when. You have an available credit of $85 for your gas. How in the world does this make sense? Mm-hmm. So it's because the interest rate says zero, right?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yes. I guess what? In November, it's not anymore. Oh. And you're keeping your balance at the fuck back. So you're going to allow what a 30% interest rate to kick in? 22.15 still bad.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You're going to, since you're allowing, instead of taking advantage of the 0%, you're just keeping it, you just keep bouncing it right to the ceiling of the credit limit. And you're allowing that interest to start accruing in just like two months, two and a half months, three months, wherever we are. You're lucky there's no back interest. What's back interest? It doesn't matter because you don't have it, but essentially it's interest that is accruing. On the back end, well, you're at 0%, but if you pay off your card by the promotional period ending, you don't have to pay the interest. But if you don't, all that back interest comes and you have to pay it.
Starting point is 00:33:55 That's not something you're dealing with here. But also, just don't take on any credit cards. You're not a credit card person. I don't want you to have to deal with that anyway. You wouldn't know what you're doing. And that's fine. And that's fine. You don't need to be a credit card person.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Not everyone needs to be a credit card person. Course careers needs to come out with a certification on how to become a credit card person. And you, people over there, listen, listen to that. Make that. Maybe I'll have to. It's the John Casablanca. That's the one that has a bunch of those purchases, right? It's like that, I think, I'm pretty sure that's the one that I've been putting.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And USAA? Yeah. Thought she said it was rent. I thought she said it was the move. Well, no, no, no. That was a discovery one that had a lot of the damage. Yeah, Casablanca, Casablanca. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Oh, what the Fasablanca's? I think it's like, ah, I want to. I just looked at my account when I was canceling it. I think I paid off of that card, 1,200 of that is... Oh. Actually, I think it's 15. Something that's like a hobby? I guess I really wanted to believe it wouldn't be a hobby.
Starting point is 00:34:55 What would you want to do more public health or that? I don't know. There's so many... Okay. You're about to make so much fun of me, but it's like... Having to sit down and just do one thing every day until I die. Then why do you have to spend... Okay, I get that.
Starting point is 00:35:12 No, pursue it in the side. Absolutely once you are out of day and you have an emergency fund as long as you're contributing to retirement. Yeah, do it on the side. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. In fact, I wish I could start doing music again on the side. It would just kind of beat on it. Yes, I didn't know he's good music.
Starting point is 00:35:26 But, but it's on the side. I'm not going out there and I'm not dropping $3,000 on learning how to write music again. Yes, well, the way they marketed it, they were like, look, you're paying all of this and this. However, you know, once you get one gig, that's like, $600, you're going to get all of this money right back and pay all your classes off. Their marketing team knows exactly the people they are selling to. Yeah. Oh, fuck me.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Well, and I didn't realize how much of an idiot I was until, I mean, recently, when I see that I'm paying for all of these classes and I haven't even had the time to attend it. And I immediately was like, well, I definitely invested in something that I mean, I really wanted to believe. Like, I would be there every weekend, doing it, doing the thing. but it has just not been feasible for me. How much can you power lift? How much can I lift? So I squat 292 pounds. Can you squat Noah, the producer?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Probably. I don't know. You want to get squatted in the post show? That can be fun. We'll see if she can squat the producer in the post show. Cool. If they both consent, if they're both okay with it. I bench 190 pounds and then I deadlifted 300.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You could deadlift me. Wow. Thank you. Actually, I just competed. I used to be the president of the university powerlifting team. So it's pretty cool. That's nice. I love to leave. Thank you. But I just did a competition not long ago and they were giving out money. I really was hoping I could be one of the people to win money from the competition. But I just didn't make the cut. Okay. So you're minimum monthly payment on this. Well, it's marked at zero because you made a payment at the time of the statement being hit. What's the normal payment? on this minimum. Well, the minimum is probably like 20 bucks, I think. But I, okay. That's going to contribute. Well, but I don't pay the minimum payment. And so I, no, that's fine. You pay a little over on each, but it still takes 22 years to pay this one off with the minimum fee payment only. Okay. Upstart. What do we have an upstart loan for? Upstart, that's the one that I did all for all the moving costs. That was the one that I told you I finished off with the audits.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And the minimum fee payment for this upstart is $122. Now that's chunky. Now that's chunky. and 41 cents. Yes. What's the balance out on this? Yeah. You just started this and it's $4,300. You have so many $4,000 loans. You're addicted to $4,000 loans.
Starting point is 00:37:52 If you see a loan that has the ability to have $4,000, you're like, sign me up. Well, wait, can you take $500 off of that, though? Because my boyfriend, he didn't have the best credit score at the time. So I wanted to be helpful. And I told him, like, I'll keep out of him. Did he pay for it yet? Yeah. He gave you $500.
Starting point is 00:38:09 No, no, no. He's helping contribute to the month. payment every month. Why would I take 500 off of that? If he's just contributing to the monthly payment, that's still the balance you owe. How much do you put towards the minimum monthly versus him? For this one?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah. Well, since I just started it, I'm just doing the 122. You said he's adding more. No, he's paying part of the 122 too many. Yes. How much? Like 50 bucks of it? And then he'll stop making those payments when he reaches 500.
Starting point is 00:38:39 $1.41 minus 50. So for a bit, you're paying $72. And 41 cents of your own money. Okay. Two payments so far out of this multi-year loan. Yes. Well, I... This is insane.
Starting point is 00:38:52 What's the interest right out? What's the interest right out? I don't see. What's the interest right out? I want to say that they said that there was just like a big sign-up fee and there wasn't going to be one. Oh, what was the big sign-out fee? Because that may as well have been the interest baked in up front.
Starting point is 00:39:05 It was like $300, I think. So you borrowed $4,000 and then $300 was the fee? You do really well. with a calculator. You'd be a great math teacher. No, I wouldn't. I can't do math. That's why I'm using the calculator. Fair enough. 7.5% essentially was added on to this. I felt like that loan was an emergency one because I knew I didn't. Emergency. Emergency, you moved out with having to pay two things that you couldn't afford. It was stupid. It didn't make sense for your situation at the time. Everyone's while. Yeah, some people have to do that. And maybe you did, but it's just, you didn't
Starting point is 00:39:41 go about it the right. Even still, that's why, how long were you working at blacks? Three years. You could have had an emergency fund. You could have paid for this in cash if you really needed to. So this is this emergency loan is just, it's stupid.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Well, I honestly, I didn't anticipate all the, like, the deposit and all of that to be as much as it was. What are you talking about? Did you not ask them what the fucking you mean? You borrowed the money without knowing how much this was? What are you talking about? No. It's like buying a car without knowing the property.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I thought I'm going to buy the Lamborghini. Oh, shit. This was $200,000? No. Well, I thought it was 50. It was my first time moving into a house. And the lady, which, for the record, they do not communicate well. But she made it sound like it was.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah, so let's borrow for that. Well, she, I thought it was going to be just a deposit and then a pet fee. That's it. You can read the contract you signed, my dude. You have the ability for English to be read. Well, I actually had to call them and correct it because they tried to pay me double rent at the new house and I was like this is not right like you're not paying me a prorated rent that's ridiculous um so I had to call them and they got that fix which ended up being
Starting point is 00:40:50 I think it was like 1800 divided by four um but yeah they tried paying me or make charging me for way more than I had anticipated and I literally had to be like dude like I don't know if it's because I'm a new homeowner and you know it's easier it's for them homeowner or not homeowner home renter Sorry, I don't, I'm not really familiar with the home stuff. I, so are boring. I wrote a little song to remind you, choice hotels, get you more of the experiences you value. The can be a hotel's got it all. A rooftop bar, have a ball.
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Starting point is 00:41:45 I was in a previous relationship where that person and it's his family, they can't, you know, he had a house. I think he got like $10,000 for, he got to pay for a house. It was like a family loan house. And I was paying at my apartment and his family wanted me to break my lease and all of that
Starting point is 00:42:00 and move out of my apartment, which it's a good thing I didn't. What their family wants, but go ahead. Well, they always made me feel like, like because I did, am I like, oh. Oh, yeah, then I would break up. Well, yes. Well, they'd make me feel like because I had an apartment and they had a house and this and that.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And so I got- And they like looked down upon you? Oh, all the time. Because you had an apartment? What? Yes. Maybe you want to be in a more walkable community or maybe you want to be closer to people anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Like there's many reasons to live in an apartment. I moved in. Maybe you wanted to live a more transitory lifestyle. I moved into that apartment because it literally is right next door to Black's barbecue. And when I first moved there, I didn't have a car yet. And so I could just walk to work every day. And I would try to explain things like that to them.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And they literally would just constantly say, oh, you're just in an apartment. You just work at Black's barbecue. And that was really infuriating for me. And I did after I got. And your, the boyfriend was okay with this? Oh, my God, yes. Total Mama's boy. Then leave.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Now it's been two years since he broke up. So now I can see that. He broke up. Oh, yeah. He left me. He literally left all of my shit on a driveway. It's a good thing. I didn't break my lease at the.
Starting point is 00:43:05 apartment because then I would have been homeless. So I moved out because he wanted me to get rid of my dog. And I didn't want to do that. Yeah. Why? They wanted me to get rid of my dog. Communist? No, seriously. Those are freaking horrible people and I still feel much disdain for them. No, now I dislike them because how do you dislike a dog? Yep. Yeah, no. They wanted me to get rid of the dog and then they tried being like, oh, you cannot believe you would pick a dog over a boyfriend. Yes. I would like, I was like, what boyfriend makes you pick between your dog and you who I've known longer I've had longer why would they want you to get rid of a dog they said that she was destructive she was an outside dog uh she definitely oh it's not this pop
Starting point is 00:43:46 no no no oh my god no i i bought a golden retriever at the outlet a couple years ago she's not destructive well she's just really hyperactive i guess she would like rips things up in the yard trivial things i felt once they got into a fight and it was the retrievers are expensive did you just adopt it from like a shelter somehow no um i saw her in the shelter. She was the cheapest dog and she was huge. She was the cheapest dog of Golden and She was the children. Yes. Well, they had like these little like pugs and stuff that were like five, six grand. How much was the golden? She was $1,700. How did you pay for that? It was the first loan I had ever taken out. I got there. Well, they were like, look, you can finance it. She's on,
Starting point is 00:44:27 and you know what? We'll take $500 off. I walked into the outlets and she was in this little, tiny little hole. And I was like, you know, she's cute. I could use a dog and She looks like she's suffering. So I... Is she alive? Yes. Yes. I actually...
Starting point is 00:44:41 Where is she? She lives with my mom now. She's still destructive? Not as much. I actually, I just took in her puppy like two days ago. I have her puppy because now I'm in a house, so I have a place that I... She got knocked up? She did.
Starting point is 00:44:54 She did. Why didn't you fix her? Well, my mom had anticipated... I had a shelter fix her. Oh, I didn't get her from the shelter. I got her from this puppy store in the outlets. I didn't get her from a shelter. Yes, I made the mistake of walking in there.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And she was the cutest thing ever. And they were like, you know, she's only going to be like six. Do you still have this golden retriever debt? The debt, yes. And she lives with your mom? Now she does, yes. Why? After I got kicked out of that place, I had initially got in her, her name's Millie, when she was a puppy.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I lived in a studio apartment at the time. And then it moved to a two bedroom. I moved in with that guy. And so Millie was able to be in, he had a beautiful yard. What guy? The ex? Yes, the ex who ended up. The anti-dog ex?
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yes, yes, yes. He would let her be in the yard and stuff. But after I got kicked out, I was back in the apartment, and I was working a lot, and I wanted to do the right thing for my dog, and I didn't want her to just be stuck in an apartment when I was working all day. My mom has this giant, beautiful, like, waterfront Rosaka for, like, a pool, and she offered to help me with her, and I was like, are you sure? Like, I'll still pay for her.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I just can't believe you still have this loan. When did you take it out? I got her when I was 21, I think. So it's been three years. You still have this $1,200 loan or whatever? It's 17 and I know it's not that much of a difference, but I'm almost done paying her off, actually. I'm really excited. That's just insane.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah. You're just borrowing for everything from moving to dogs to everything, food. I thought I was doing. Acting class. I thought I was doing security deposits. Right. But clearly that wasn't the case. But yeah, she now lives with my parents, and I am still paying her off because I was not going to ask my parents.
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Starting point is 00:48:00 Easy pay rental purchase agreement. Is this a rent to own type of thing? Oh my gosh. Wait, what is this? In the midst of all of the moving, my car broke down. Actually, the same day that I came to get my key for the house, it broke down here in Austin. The radiator went out.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And my AC was, I had just fixed it. It went out again too. But I was dealing with that. That was fine. I went to Midas here. And I spoke to this guy and, you know, there's a whole sign under new management. and all of that.
Starting point is 00:48:31 He gave me this giant bill that I did not have the money for. But I needed to- You didn't get quoted before? I mean, he said that it was going to probably be like $2,300. How much is the car worth? I think like $5,000. You put half of the value of the car into a repair? I didn't feel like I had a choice.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And, you know, honestly, no, back to me being friedful. I know I probably could have asked my mother for help, but my dad had just gotten off of, you know, out of a job. So I really didn't want to feel like I was burdening them. 50% interest or 100%? What is it? So, he. 2,550 dollars? The man assured me that total payments of $5,95?
Starting point is 00:49:15 So I didn't know that literally until yesterday when I sent that document. When did you get this done? I kid you not. So this happened right when I moved. So like a month ago. Oh, I have a fucking headache. Well, I called, I talked to the man and I told them like, I don't have. have the money for this fix. I don't want to ask my mom for help. And he was like, well, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:49:32 We have a financing option. Oh, better not worry. Well, and then he assured me, he even spoke to my mother on the phone. Oh, good. Yes, and he was like, look, this is what I would do if it was my daughter. Like, I would not do this. It's because he's a moron. Well, he assured me that I would qualify for no interest. I wouldn't have any interest on this car repair. Yes, and I can see that now. Clearly, it was bullshit. But he assured me it was just going to be the 23-something. And if I paid it off within 90 days, which I think is up in like a month or two. Okay, why I'm confused? What was this? What was this on again? Because, okay, here's the thing. The cost of rental. You're right. There's no interest. It's the cost of the rental.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I mean, that's what it is. I mean, that's what they sold you on. The what you f*** out was $2,550. And then there's essentially a fee of $3,354. Now, that says if you pay all regular payments in the processing fee, regular payments of $112. I was biweekly. This is Euphoria Calvin Klein. The new Elixir Collection, featuring three perfume intense scents, inspired by a unique Orchid Accord, paired with vanilla, each with its own distinct attitude, each with its own universe, bold elixir,
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Starting point is 00:51:07 That's what I'm... I think it might say within 90 days. Again, I just saw that yesterday. 90 days? If I can pay the 29 or 2300 within 90 days, I think that then I don't have to owe the rest of that. Really? And if there's a way that I could possibly afford that,
Starting point is 00:51:23 I would love to be a reaction. That's interesting. That might be our goal because this adds 3,35,000. $4 to your debt if you don't do that. I don't see that in. They said nothing about a fee or interest at all. Oh. Oh, and the minimum monthly, the minimum biweekly payment does not include the processing fee of $39. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I guess I feel like I was misinformed in that and he assured me that everything was going to be okay. And he even fixed my AC. Oh. He offered. He said he was being nice to me. Oh, he was being. real nice. He brought out the messed up part. He's like, you see this. This is why the last stupid
Starting point is 00:52:04 handyman, like messed up your AC. But look, it's broken right here. I'll fix it. And you know what? I won't even charge you labor. Oh, he did his job real well. What was his job? Salesman. And yeah. Well, he made it sound like he's like this concerned dad. He would never, because I told him. You can't fall for that. I mean, there's, listen,
Starting point is 00:52:20 good for the sales industry that there are apparently people that still believe that. That's, I promise. That's not how, like, just if anyone ever tries, if anyone has the incentive that you'd sign for a program or has the incentive to, you know, charge more than the thing is worth. And they go, oh, I feel bad for you. I promise.
Starting point is 00:52:40 That's not their intent to just be a good guy. Yeah. Like, my. I, you know, and I, I think what's most of setting about that is I told him in the beginning. I was like, hey, like, I really, I told him I would prefer to speak to my mom before I agree to anything because I'm not that familiar with a lot of these auto things. and I do feel like I don't know anything about cars
Starting point is 00:53:02 so it's easy for them to be like you need this. Why don't you go with someone who knows something about cars? Is your dad? My mom handles all of the finances in the house. That's not what I asked. I didn't ask about finances. I asked about car. Oh.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I don't know if my dad knows much about cars if I'm being honest. We tried calling my uncle Matt. He's like a giant. He works on like industrial engines and stuff. And he said that if what the man said was true, then to go with it. But it wasn't. Why, you have the easiest to sell to you family. Everyone in your bloodline is the most sellable people ever.
Starting point is 00:53:41 $303.62 a month. When does that 90 days end? If that's even the case. I signed that June 14th. So it should be in a number of days. Oh, it's the end. Okay, so we have a better month. I have about a month.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Okay. I mean, if I have to pick up extra shows or something, I can do that. Uh, jaw. I genuinely. Wait, wait, wait, what is this? Easy pay? That's the rest of it, I think. What, rest of what?
Starting point is 00:54:18 Is there more? Like, this is the paper, I think. Like, it goes with it. I still don't see anything about a 90-day thing. Oh, okay, wait. The processing fee was only on the total of the radiator and thermostat. It's not on every payment. So let me get your correct minimum monthly payment.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Looks like you're going to pay the processing fee once, though. Okay, your real minimum monthly payment is $225.62. I'm sorry, you guys hold on this. We see, have two cute dogs. Does that it? Is that all your debt? No, it's not. You have student loans.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I do have student loans. What is the... I haven't had to pay anything. Yeah, but what's going on? I was actually really lucky. My dad let me pay through... my undergrad for like oh my god i cannot talk pay for my undergrad with his hazelwood so i didn't have to take out very many loans in undergrad so it's very many so how many did you take out how much
Starting point is 00:55:15 seven grand it was just enough to casually my goodness money needs nothing to you well at the time i didn't i didn't know any like i didn't pay rent or anything or have a job quite yet when i took that did you have to take it out my mom actually told me that i should take that one out don't ever listen to your family about money again. Oh, but no. My mom does really good with money. I don't think so. If you,
Starting point is 00:55:38 if you dig deep, I doubt it unless she's making way too much and her stupidity hasn't caught up. If she thinks that financial stupidity, I'm not calling her a stupid person. Oh, I was like, that's not very nice. Buddy, you got into over a hundred percent interest
Starting point is 00:55:54 thing of your car with her help and taking out student loans when you had no life expenses. Yeah, that's stupid. She just told me today when we were talking about the car thing. She was like, I really wish you, you know, maybe we could have thought it over more. And I could have just sent you a credit card and then you pay the credit card instead of that.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yeah, that sounds like someone we should listen to in the moment if that's what their hindsight is. I just really didn't want to act. I felt at the time that I didn't want to ask my mom for help because she's helped me so much already. I just. It's okay to ask for help as long as you're not abusing the help or getting enabled. It's okay to ask for. at least advice help. That's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:56:33 No more listening to them. I just, I don't think they know, or maybe they don't know your situation, or maybe they just think of debt incorrectly. And the fact that 7,000 hours of debt was nothing to you, well, I guess that's insane. So that. And how much have you borrowed for grad school?
Starting point is 00:56:50 For grad school. So I'm in my second semester now. So I'm probably at like 10 grand for all of my classes for grad school. But I'm about going to be at 20 by the end. Yes. But I'm almost done with grad school, so I should have my degree here very soon. Wait, but you're in your second semester.
Starting point is 00:57:09 How many semesters? It's four. But my last semester is only like one class because I've been taking full time. It will be $20,000? How much are you going to borrow by the end of it? Yeah. So $27,000 in student loans, great. Is that like really, really horrible?
Starting point is 00:57:23 Not necessarily, but it's debt that wasn't here. Wasn't in our calculations. You acted like the $7,000 wasn't nothing. Plus, sometimes the loans that you're, getting for grad school can have a little higher interest. I will say that with my job, they are going to be paying back for, they're going to be paying me back for the class, like reimbursing me because it's in public health. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:57:43 What job? My crash investigation job. They're paying for it completely. They will pay for one class a semester. So while I am going to have to pay with a loan up front, they're going to reimburse me at the end of it. How much will you get reimbursed? Best guests across the board, a dollar amount. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I guess for the end of that, probably like six grand of it. Okay, so 21,000. And and, and it gets better. Well, you're going to do public students? No, I have a grant. So I'm really only going to have to be paying for one class for the next two semesters. So I really have to pay for four classes total. How much is the grant for?
Starting point is 00:58:23 1,200 each semester for two. So. Okay. That helps. Don't get me wrong. That helps. You made it sound like it was a little more than that. I guess I just see it.
Starting point is 00:58:35 18,600 for your student loans by the end of it. Okay. By the sounds of it. Maybe you'll do some public student loan forgiveness as well. But again, you know, it gets a little sketchy administration to administration. I know the approval odds are really low on that, but that's usually because people are incorrectly applying people that don't qualify for it. So it brings that that's why the percentage of people who have been approved are so low.
Starting point is 00:58:57 So depending on the administration and everything, at the time, you never really know. Everything student loan thing is getting, it's constantly changing administration to administration court case to court case. So I mean, I got really lucky. I started grad school like, because I took a year off. So right when I was about to have to start paying what? Oh my. What? Oh no. Oh no. What happened? How the fuck did you end your checking account at negative $229? What the fuck are you doing? What is your life? You make a non-insignificant amount of money to do this. I promise it the next day as soon as I saw that I paid it off. What do you mean paid it off? This is negative. No, no, no. I made it not negative anymore.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Why didn't you make it not negative at the first place? I didn't know that it was going to do that. It was a spectrum charge moving into there. They did a giant fee for going and setting up my Wi-Fi at the house. How much? I think it was like a hundred bucks for them just to go set up Wi-Fi. Okay, well, your negative 229. So what was the other $129? The rest of it was, I guess, the plans or something. They, the Wi-Fi plan? So you had zero dollars in there
Starting point is 01:00:04 and then you go in negative $229. Like even that still. I didn't realize that they were going to charge you that. You started it at $1,000. 300. It's still not better. But if I said it was more like negative 70 would that be?
Starting point is 01:00:18 Because again, I didn't know they were charging it. It's not about that. It's about this. And watch this. This is going to, this wasn't going to fuck with me. No, it was Chipotle.
Starting point is 01:00:26 It was Chipotle. It was going and getting in a fucking drink. It was Amazon. on it was door dashing some Chinese food. Murphy Express, that's likely gas, actually. Ross Stores, vending machine, Pizza Hut
Starting point is 01:00:39 20 bucks. Blacks Barbecue, they used to give you money. Stop giving them money. Dutch Bros. cash-shaping out $38. Chick-fil-A, Chip-fil-A, Chip-fil-A, Microsoft Ultimate Vend-Wing out, $250, cash-happing out $30.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Chipotle. The grill or grist mill, Target, You never really know whether that's groceries or what. Restaurant.com. Great. That sounds delicious. Italian gardens, better than olive gardens. I was actually getting coupons on restaurant.com. Yeah, proud of you. You have no money. Shut the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Marshalls, Marshals, Marshals, Ross, Hulu. There's nothing except for the handmade's tail on there anyway. Fork and Spoon. Pizza Hut. Door dashing, Taiwan Rainbow. Negative in our checking account. Let's doordash. That makes sounds great. Church's chicken. Purchase overstock. Going inside a gas station. some BS sweet treats. San Antonio Aquarium.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Nope. Spotify. A chick filet. Chili's. Chipotle. Cash an app out 150 bucks. Then went out 20 bucks.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Who knows what the fuck those went. Amazon. Amazon, Starbucks, pet camera. Subscription or you got a camera in Starbucks and Netflix and went inside and got some bullshit. Got some drinks. Got some sweet treats. Apple bill.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Subscription. Reoccurring subscription. $9.73. White Pages subscription of $63.71. What the f*** are you doing there? That's for my job. Your dog? My job.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Taco. Do they pay for it? Yeah. They actually did. They gave me a $50 check. Well, it was meant to be for my phone bill that month. Not phone bill, but they gave me a $50 phone check. I just started getting that, like literally that month.
Starting point is 01:02:22 So the white pages, they weren't going to pay for it. But I decided that I would put my phone check. that month into that because it makes my job a lot easier. Well, guess what? Taco plaque, Polineque order. Balenka. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Have you tried me? No! Alpha Strike Games, fireworks. Mexican restaurant there. Starbucks McDonald's cash an app and out $20. You cash out every second of your life. Mexican steakhouse. Vans, barbecue,
Starting point is 01:02:53 Chipotle, tacos again. Sonic, you're going out to eat every day of your life. So you were negative. You're missing your payments. You know why you had to borrow a move? Because you're going off to eat every second of your life. You have a million subscription. So I no longer have sympathy.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Frulati, Venmoing out $150. Church's chicken friotti. Code to Spistro, Chipotle, every day, sometimes multiple times a day. So, fuck you. Amazon, Zellin out 40, Zellin out 15. Bullsh, bullshit. Savings down from $2,000 to $18. So wonderful.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Life is great. that was a joke. That was the spending of a child. You didn't have to borrow because you didn't have money. You spend all your money. You make more than the median person in your city and you spend it. You had to borrow $7,000 for undergrad because you spend it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 So what the f f f f can I do? Because you don't care. You're going and spending everything. I mean, I need to have more self-control clearly. Oh. Well, in the moment, it feels like purchases that are necessary. And, you're talking about. Totally is fuel.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Fuel for power lifting. Shut the fuck up and get a pack of damn sandwich. Protein shakes. I don't like protein shakes. I don't give a shit. You don't like money, apparently. You don't like having a financial future, apparently. Well, I think that's why I'm here.
Starting point is 01:04:24 No, that's not an answer. That is not an answer. No, no. These were your actions. I am calling. out your actions. That's why I'm here. No, that's not an answer. That's not a get out of jail free card. So what have you been doing? Why have you not cared? And why is now different? I think I have thought that my financial situation is a lot better than it actually is. A lot of those.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Well, in the last 30 days, I have been spending a lot like that Ross. A lot of those large Venmo purchases are for furniture and things around the house. $725 going out to eat. Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't have an excuse for that. $839 and miscellaneous bullshit things that really don't improve your life. It's stopping, swiping subscriptions. It's, I guess those are like the little things that add up and I don't realize that they add up until my bank account. Yeah, $1,800 combined those together, right? Or $1,600.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah, I can't even believe it's that much. I mean, I figured that a lot of it was going to be on going out to eat, but I didn't know it was going to be like that. And then lots of Walmart, lots of Amazon, lots of Target, Walgreen CVS. you never really know what they are. You can get anything from those places. Bullshit for needs. And if it's all needs, you're overspending. $650 at Walmart.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And then subscription, 66 bucks. Miscellaneous movie theater, the Ross and Marshalls and Overstock and Aquarium and GEVC and the pet camera on Apple bills and white pages, which we got reimbursed for that and Alpha Strike Games and fireworks. It was the 4th of July.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I don't give a shit. There's more of them. Congratulations. America ages a year, once a year. I was just trying to make us feel like a family in the house because I'm kind of like the one that brings everyone together in that aspect because I live with three gamers and I find that family things I was raised. He launched fireworks in Minecraft.
Starting point is 01:06:15 No, it was the whole thing to celebrate together. Cool, have them chip in. Well, I want to say that they did. Girl, the money and your checking account is negative. Okay. I don't give a shit about fireworks. When are negative. And I've had people criticize this show and say,
Starting point is 01:06:36 oh, this person in front of me, they're doing bad because of the system. They're doing bad because people aren't making enough money. You're spending all your money going out to eat, getting fireworks, going to the movies, going out to eat once to twice a day, bullshit subscriptions, video games. It's not the income.
Starting point is 01:06:54 You make more than the media in your area. You're doing fine. you've had college paid for, you've had your needs paid for, you're spending everything. This is all your fault. Not saying that as I put you down, but I am saying that as you need to recognize that this is all your behavior. Because then you can actually address the main issue here, which is that behavior. If you think the whole world is against you, which a lot of people, again, they're like, the world's against these people.
Starting point is 01:07:22 They can't help it. If you're going to think that, if you're going to play perpetual victim, not saying you are. But if you are, you're never going to get out of it. Honestly. But if you're willing to actually take accountability and put in some personal responsibility, you have a lot of money to play with. Yes. Well, and I am. And I'll start packing a lunch and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I mean, honestly, I, yes, it's my fault. I'm the one swiping the card at the end of the day. I realize that. But a lot of like the car situation, it's not even me being feeling like the perpetual victim, the world is against me. I mean, I truly believe that that man was for me. He was trying to help me. Okay. Well, it's not even that.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Even if, like, he's still, hi, bubys. I think she wants to be on your lap. I don't know if it's... I would allow it. I would. Hi, girls. And even if that was the case...
Starting point is 01:08:13 I was going to let her on. It was still your choice not to have the fully funded emergency fund because you spent all your money on food. So even if you did get scammed there, your emergency fund would have covered that. And that was... is not the world against you. The bitter thinks that. It was you.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Yeah. I am definitely not going to sit here and say that my spending is perfect. And again, I think it's easy in the moment for people to say, you know, I needed that. I needed that Chipotle. I needed this. And I know that that's not the case now that I'm looking at it, you know, before. I really thought that I was doing things correctly, but clearly that's not the case. It is really.
Starting point is 01:08:57 opening seeing all of this stuff. Oh my gosh. I mean, I had no idea that things were as bad as they were if I'm being honest. And I think also I've had that mentality like, well, no matter what, I do have a very supportive family. And I do feel like if she'd ever hit the fan while I would absolutely try to not receive help because I have way too much pride and I need to work on that. Um, what do small dogs always shake? They're always shaking. No matter how cold, like warm she is, she will shake. But she's actually really happy. She comes everywhere with me. Oh, my gosh.
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Starting point is 01:10:30 We've got to teach your mom how to budget, okay? We're going to make a little budget. You might not get as many treats. Actually, she doesn't even eat kibble. As many dresses. It was $5. Yeah, and we know what you do with $5 purchases. You do 500 of them.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Yes. So total income, $3,402. Okay, your debt minimum monthly payment. Hi, sweet. You're so good. Have you ever been an accountant? $400. Nope, I would hate that.
Starting point is 01:11:01 $468. And $3. I much prefer to have these conversations with people. Rent, your portion. $5.69. You have no excuse to be in debt. How much do you put towards utilities and Internet? Well, we've only had one bill.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Best. I'll just say like $200. I'll say that. That's probably a little over. That's probably a little over. Gas, room, room,
Starting point is 01:11:30 drive, drive, how much? Oh, a month? Probably like 300 bucks. I drive a lot. I work in New Bromphels and then like one of my trivia shows is in Canyon Lake.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Is it worth it? Do you even make money after that? The, the trivia one specifically. Not that show. I've been trying to get rid of it actually because it's not been, it hasn't been worth it anymore. Maybe it was.
Starting point is 01:11:55 in the beginning. But now that I'm more established in this, it's probably less than 300, but I'll put 300 car insurance. Well, I had paid that like the full for six months. It was 7.80. When does that start again? I literally just paid it a month ago. So I think the end of the year.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Do you find anything else you need to survive, $100. Groceries, $300. Follow the meal plan and the budgeting program that you get, adapt it to your needs. gym memberships and powerlifting and all that stuff, how much? Yes. Now it's only going to be $35. I moved to a new gym.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Any co-pays health care wise? No. Oh, wait. I'm lying. I think it's little. I think I pay like $25 a month for my medicines. Perfect. Subscriptions.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Do you have pet insurance? I don't. Not yet, though. I'm putting $35 in there. I recommend it. Thank you. It saved me thousands of dollars. Well, I just got to the point in my job for like getting insurance and all of that.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Phone bill? I actually am really lucky. I don't have to pay a phone bill. When you do, use helium for 20 bucks a month? Okay, noted. All right, let's get your minimums. How long have you been doing this stuff for, if you don't mind me asking? Almost two and a half years.
Starting point is 01:13:10 That's really cool. My family, everybody knows about you. I'm not on YouTube very much, so I hadn't heard of this one before, nothing against you. But I mentioned that I was going to be coming, and my cousin was like, Wait a minute. What? Do you know who he is?
Starting point is 01:13:26 That's a big deal. He's me. Hey. Some of a loving place. He actually, it's so funny that you guys are described as Hell's Kitchen. A, I love Gordon Ramsey and Hell's Kitchen. But also that's how he described you. And everyone that I said I was going to be coming, all of them.
Starting point is 01:13:47 He's like the Gordon Ramsey of this. I love Gordon. I like how he does things. And I love it shows. You have $1,374 left over, so you have no excuse. Really? I was like, that's genuine news to me. Yeah, if you budget, if you only live, find your needs, I'll give you, in fact,
Starting point is 01:14:05 I'm going to give you $200 of fun, just budget it in, 1,174. And I rarely get to do that because people usually don't have much room, but $200 eating out or whatever you want. Subscriptions, Netflix, Spotify, it's up to you. Okay, so $1,174 left. It'll be a little less than that. it'll be closer to a thousand uh
Starting point is 01:14:25 hello 100 when you have to make the full upstart minimum monthly payment uh 122 yes it'll be an extra $70 so you'll be about $1,100 left over okay so within a month you need to come up with $2,550
Starting point is 01:14:46 honestly I'm okay so I would save that $1,100 and I would pick up as many shifts as you can over this next month, literally any shift that you can try to scrap together and other 1,500, 1,400, which is easier to send than none. But if you can do that after taxes, yes, pay that off, so you don't have to pay the extra fee if the 90-day thing is real. I guess another real question.
Starting point is 01:15:07 And sell things, legitimately sell things. Okay. It'll be worth it. Today my mom did offer the whole like credit card thing. Do you think that, like she said that, well, she said we were going to look at it today. She didn't know I was coming here today. she said that if it is within the 90 days that she wouldn't mind extending the credit card so I could just pay it real quick She means extending the credit card She has a credit card
Starting point is 01:15:28 She said I could put the rest of it on there and then pay the credit card that sure do that Is that better than I don't think it teaches you your lesson No I want to be too I mean I I want to do the right thing I definitely am not trying to screw my mom over No and I don't think you wouldn't because I'd make you pay her off really quick but you can do that It's not the best but you can And what I'm doing, capital one first month paid off. I'd get a one month emergency fund in a month and a half. And then in the second half of that month, I'd finish off the capital one.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Starting month number three, I would start throwing everything smallest debt to largest debt. So you'd pay your mom off in two months and then starting month number five. You know, the other Discover it, USAA and Vessert are all pretty much the same. And at that point, at about $12,000, you're probably going to pay that off in about nine months because it's going to start compounding from there, maybe 10 months. So we're probably a year in three or four months in at this point. And then you only have student loans left, of which you might not have to pay more than the minimum of the payment, depending on the interest rate.
Starting point is 01:16:34 So like literally your life has changed in a year and a quarter, which is incredible. And then let's call it a year in three quarters for a fully funded emergency fund and everything. So all debt is paid off except for student loans and then you have a fully funded emergency fund. That's amazing. It is. It just requires you actually being disciplined for the first time in your life. Yeah. Which is easier to send than done, but follow the budget, set up reward systems.
Starting point is 01:16:57 I'm giving you $200 for fun. Just literally budget it. Literally budget it. And you'll actually be able to do this. You have a high chance of success. You just need to be a responsible person and focus on your behavioral changes. Yeah. And the more work you pick up, the faster you pay this off.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Okay. Well, you know, it's looking up at least, it might sound minuscule right now, but like I'm trying to grow the San Marcos, I guess market for the trivia things. I just recently became like the manager or whatever for that. So every show that I can book, I get $50 a week. I guess not even having to do the show. I'll be getting $50 a week from that. And then all of the hosts that I recruit, which I will be recruiting them. I am recruiting them now, but they're not trained to.
Starting point is 01:17:45 fully yet. I'd be getting $30 a show just for every show they do, which is really interesting. And I mean, this trivia thing is the first time I've ever done anything like this. But I'm honestly, I like it a lot. I just wanted to do it so that I knew I was moving and I was going to be having a lot of moving costs and stuff. So I got the job in the first place because I was trying to offset it. And I have not made the best decisions very clearly, even though. So I really thought that I was doing the right thing. Sure. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Well, for spending in a budget, zero because you overspent it dramatically. Debt one out of 10. You don't have a payday loan or IRS debt. But other than that, it's like it's worse as it gets, especially with that dumb balloon debt. Emergency fund, you have nothing zero out of ten. Retirement, you have nothing zero out of ten. It's going to be a hammer financial score. Point five out of ten.
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