Fine Dining - Gus’s World Famous Fried Chicken: The Most Consistent Chain I’ve Tried

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

🍗 Gus’s World Famous Fried Chicken: Nothing Was Bad?! 🍗 We went to Gus’s World Famous Fried Chicken—and literally nothing made it into the “Not Good” category. Nothing! Comedian and im...proviser Dave Theune (St. Denis Medical, NBC/Peacock) joins me to talk about his first foray into eating dark meat, crispy fried okra, spicy batter, and the kind of service that borders on too attentive (but we loved it). The waiter even coaxed out my Star Wars hot take. Is Gus’s better than Chili’s? That’s the question. But when a fried pickle almost takes me out in the opening minutes, it’s going to be a wild ride to the answer. 🍗 Juicy, Spicy, Championship Chicken 😇 Service So Good It’s Practically Flirting 🥒 A Scalding Pickle 🥧 Dessert: Chocolate Chess vs. Pecan Pie 🎵 Steely Dan Energy Without Steely Dan 🚽 The Most Secure Bathroom in LA ☕️ Unsweetened Tea… a 10/10?! 📈 Did Gus’s pass the Chili’s test? 💬 COMMENT BELOW: Is Gus’s your go-to for fried chicken? Or does your loyalty lie elsewhere in the Southern fried pantheon? 📢 SUPPORT THE SHOW & JOIN THE COMMUNITY: 🔥 Patreon (Bonus reviews & exclusive content!): https://www.patreon.com/finediningpodcast 💬 Discord (Food talk, cursed Yelp reviews, Star Wars hot takes): https://discord.gg/6a2YqrtWV4 🎥 Watch full episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@finediningpodcast 🔗 All links: https://www.linktree.com/finediningpodcast 🎭 Dave Theune’s series St. Denis Medical – now streaming on Peacock Patreon Producers: Sue Ornelas & Joyce Van 👉 NEXT WEEK: I head to Nathan’s Famous to learn the history of their fabled hot dog eating contest.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Gus's world famous fried chicken. They're literally peblers of championship winning fried chicken, but I tried potato salad for the first time in my life and I've got notes. Their chocolate chest pie was simple and sweet, as was their unsweetened tea, which defies logic if you think about it.
Starting point is 00:00:19 They proved that beans beans are indeed the magical fruit, but we're now two hours removed from our meal and I've yet to toot. After determining Chili's to be the perfect measuring stick of mediocrity last month, we're going to put the Chili's test to work to determine if Gus's world famous fried chicken is objectively good or not good. Will a restaurant that's been featured in GQ in an article titled A Love Letter to Gus's The Best Fried Chicken in the World turn out to be any good? Let's find out together. This is the Fine Dining Podcast. mediocrity. Wouldn't you like to try a five? Guarantee it'll be the perfect five. Fine
Starting point is 00:01:11 tiny. Better than you thought, worse than you hoped. Fine tiny. We don't treat mediocre as a joke. Breaking every single place we've been. Compare it to the perfect five out of Hello, and welcome back to Fine Dining, the quest to compare all restaurants to Chili's. I am your host Michael Ornelas, and this is the show where I'm using Chili's, the perfectly average 5 out of 10 dining experience to measure what is good or not good by comparison. So the question at hand today is Gus's world famous fried chicken better than chilies straight up? Probably.
Starting point is 00:01:53 But we're going to break it down for you anyways so that you can hear what it's like to both taste the food at such a highly regarded chain and experience the ambiance and service there as well. Joining me today to discuss Gus's world famous fried chicken is a very funny improviser, actor and comedian who I just find to be one of the most delightful humans to be around. You can see him in Upright Citizens Brigade's most prestigious weekly show Ascat here in Los Angeles, and he also calls his parents often.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It's Dave Tooney. Thanks for having me. I'm so happy to be here and you're right I do call my parents often. Yeah I found a casting website that you had written the bio and mentioned that you call your parents often. I do. I was like you know what? Yeah. I think it says a lot about you. Thanks, thanks, thanks. Thanks for joining me. Thanks for coming to Gus's. Thanks for sharing what was truly a really good meal. I loved it. I really loved it.
Starting point is 00:02:53 As my first time being at this restaurant, it easily matched and exceeded my expectations. I had a great time. Awesome. Well, we're just going to jump right on into it. Great. We're going to talk about everything that was good. Play the jingle. This is the good, done like it should be.
Starting point is 00:03:11 The stuff that's spank-a-licking, or stinking the land in. This is the good, I knew that you could. This is the good. So I guess we'll just go in the order of what we experienced with the first being we walk in and just ambiance wise. Yes. It feels classic, but it doesn't feel old. It feels classic.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It doesn't feel old. It doesn't feel overdone. And for someone who likes kitschy, someone who likes a thick decor. I love kitsch. Me too. I mean, absolutely. And this isn't that, but it is, and it's not like an overly warm cushy place, but it is inviting. It is very comfortable and feels just like very easy, very welcoming. It's like got like sky blues in there, which is just always a very relaxing color to me.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Love a blue, I'm a big blue guy. Love a blue, love this particular location, lots of windows all the way around, which I do really enjoy. Gets kind of hot in the summer, I will say. Oh, I bet it does. I bet it does, you're right. I didn't think about that.
Starting point is 00:04:18 That probably is the case. What I like also is I was sitting in a booth, I love a booth, but your chairs on your side, that you was sitting in a booth, I love a booth, but your chairs on your side, that you were sitting in a chair, those chairs had a cushion seat and a cushion back. It was like leather too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And I think they were new from the last time I was there. I didn't even think to write down the seating, but it was comfy. Yes, and I love that they're not just a cheap wooden chair on the other side. I think that's really great. And I'm gonna even're not just a cheap wooden chair on the other side. I think that's really great. And I'm going to even back up just a little bit. They're parking lot, nothing special, but ample, plenty of parking, super easy.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And Los Angeles, if you know Los Angeles, that is a premium and this place easily, even if it was packed, plenty of parking. Yeah. Yeah. I, this is the type of place where I will always prefer to dine in. There is something about the full experience of the place that I want when I'm eating it. Yeah. I've taken this chicken to go.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I've had it right here in my own home, but just, uh, it puts you in a mood to stay there. Yeah. Very casual, very comfortable. It doesn't feel like, when I say casual, it doesn't mean like. Underdone. Underdone or dingy or anything like that. It's very clean, very open, very airy. And again, just a super comfortable energy in there.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. Now we got a couple of the starters. We got the same plate for entree with different sides. Yep. And then we both got desserts and I I'm gonna just hold up my little notebook to camera here. I usually divide it into thirds for the good, the not good, and the just there.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And I ended up putting nothing in the not good. So we're probably gonna be doing most of our evaluating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of this meal in this segment. So the good will probably run longest. Yep. I got fried okra. Look, today was a day of firsts.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yes. I tried fried okra for the first time. Same. I tried potato salad for the first time. You tried dark meat chicken for the first time. We're just a couple of weirdos who haven't tried things that other people are like, wait, really? You went this long without that?
Starting point is 00:06:22 You being from Texas and not having dried potato salad is surprising to me. Yeah. Yeah. I love mashed potatoes. Sure. And it's just like, why are we doing something different to that? Why are we adding to that?
Starting point is 00:06:36 That's kind of what my mindset always was. And then like mayo or egg-based things. I like eggs. I love a good scrambled egg. I like putting eggs and stuff. But it's only been since I've been doing this podcast that I've really ventured into like different preparations of eggs.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I just conceptually need to come around to some things. And I think potato salad was one where when I was doing research on this restaurant, I out of nowhere just decided what are all of the things typically in a potato salad? And I looked at it, I was like, oh, I would eat all those things separately. So I guess there's no reason not to try them together.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yes, but in your defense, when there's french fries as an option, it is hard to pick anything over french fries. It just is, especially the french fries are reasonably good. As a side item, I just don't know what tops it. Yeah, and so what I will say about the potato salad, I did try it for the first time, but this is about the fried okra.
Starting point is 00:07:35 The potato salad for me does not go in the good. Fine. Doesn't go in the not good, but it doesn't go in the good. Understandable. So the okra. Yep. I think I liked this so much
Starting point is 00:07:45 because the actual vegetable of it was so not prominent. So minimal, yes. It just tasted like I was eating fried batter. Yes, yes. And I love fried batter. I love fried batter. And the benefit of knowing like, it's fried batter, not good for me,
Starting point is 00:08:03 but we got a little vegetable in there, right? Right? It's like you're able to trick yourself just a little bit with that okra. But that said, it was my first time trying okra at all, let alone fried okra. And the texture I thought was delightful. Yep. And it almost tasted like a less strong Brussels sprout.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I love me some Brussels sprouts. Great. But yeah, this kind of tasted like, hey, we're gonna give you a hint of that, but it's not gonna overwhelm and then we're gonna deep fry it. And I thought it was a winning combo. I liked their fried okra quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I went seven out of 10. Great. I would match you on that with a seven out of 10. I've had okra before. I'd never had fried okra before. And I would say that I was pleasantly surprised when you were like, if you get the fried okra, I was in my mind, I was a little bit like, whoa, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But then we got it and I was like, oh yeah. And I ate a bunch of it and I was like, this is great. And like you said, it's just the right size. They're kind of small and obviously deep fried, which is great. And they had a ranch sauce, which I enjoyed. And I was thoroughly impressed with them, even though deep fried, a lot of deep fried stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I mean, I like deep fried stuff, but like deep fried poppers, deep fried pickles, deep fried ochre, deep fried, any of that stuff as an appetizer is not something I'm normally going for, but I would easily eat this again, seven out of 10 for sure. And I will say I'm also not typically a ranch guy. Their ranch was both good and I kept coming back to it. And they gave us each our own little cup
Starting point is 00:09:30 and that was so great. Yeah. Yes. Although I think they did that because we got two different fried appetizers, not because there were two of us. You're right, you're right. That's probably true now that you say that. But he was very strategic when he set it down
Starting point is 00:09:40 and be like, that's for you, that's for you. And it's like, okay, you're looking out for us, but I see what's behind it. I didn't even dawd on me, but you're right. A lot of dad music here, but I wasn't hating it. No, very easy energy, very easy vibe to the music, very like ranging from 50s into 70s. When we first got in there,
Starting point is 00:10:00 they were playing some 50s or early 60s music, and I was like, all right, is that what this is? Okay, okay. And then some of the stuff on the wall would indicate that. But then they started playing like some 70s rock, you know. We had Hotel California and I was like, ooh, I need to put boat shoes on. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And so at that point I was like, oh, okay, this is a little bit different. I'm not exactly sure what this is. But again, an easy going vibe, at least being a middle-aged white dude, even here. So for me, it was like very easy. Like they didn't play any Steely Dan yet kind of everything they played. It was kind of the vibe.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yes. Yeah. And I'm curious to know when they're doing that. I, I know because it is a chain. Like, are they beholden to some corporate decision of like, this is the type of music you're gonna play or is it up to the individual? And that's just like what their preferences are.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I would say, I imagine, and I'm saying this off of speculation. Sure. If you're franchised, you're probably not locked in to any specific thing. Okay. There's probably like decency things where it's like, you can't be playing profane things. But even then I've seen in some Yelp reviews,
Starting point is 00:11:06 like the guy in the kitchen was listening to something different than what was playing through the speakers and it was profane. And I didn't have kids here, but if I did, I would have been upset. That said, I'm not that bothered by it. And I was like, you just wrote a whole paragraph about it, buddy.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yeah, someone's bothered. Yeah. Yeah. Prude says what, you know? But yeah, it put me in a relaxed Yep. Space. A hundred percent. Yeah. I was very at ease the whole time we were there and, uh, it matched the,
Starting point is 00:11:32 for me, you know, for both of us, a nice, cool Wednesday afternoon. Loved it. Uh, what's the, what's the thing you would throw into the good? Um, I'm going to throw into the good. Um, if we're going to stay just on the appetizers even, for me having, I don't think I've ever ordered fried pickles before. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And I like a dill pickle. And so I was looking forward to these, because I'm like, I know I like deep fried stuff and I like pickles, but I've never gotten this before. Did you feel like I was crazy when I was like, hey, we're not gonna just get one deep fried appetizer, we're going for two. No, you were right to do it, and I absolutely understand it,
Starting point is 00:12:09 but I'm also like, it's just two of us eating, right? Like, this is gonna be a lot of stuff. But I also understand, like, the nature of what we're doing. But I was also excited to try them. And the deep fried pickle is different than the okra, obviously it's a different thing. But like, because it's just a long, wet vegetable, so the deep fry doesn't stay on it in the same way.
Starting point is 00:12:30 No, and I ran into a dangerous incident. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. They are subjected to a similar possible problem that the onion ring is subjected to. Again, a wet kind of vegetable. But that being said, I cut mine in half, dipped it in that ranch, and I had like three of those things.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And I thought it was really tasty, and I reminded why I like pickles so much, and it was a good combo for me, and I was able to keep it together, the fried and the pickled together. So for me, again, seven, me closing it on an eight out of 10. I really enjoyed it. Yeah. For me, that's in a different category as well.
Starting point is 00:13:14 But that said, I've now talked about both of the things that were in the other categories, everything else we could talk about. I think we agree upon in the good. Yes. Our service guy was awesome. He was awesome. He did like the appropriate amount of eavesdropping. Yes he did. Like he had little pointed comments to join in on our conversations.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yep, yep. And I didn't mind it at all. And he was, but he was always like, I don't mean to interrupt, don't mean to interrupt. Right, he was always like very conscious of that. And I'm guessing part of that's his nature of who he is. I'm guessing maybe he has sense because you and I are both taking pictures.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You were taking some more, you're writing stuff down. So like, is there an element of like, this guy's gonna review this thing? Which maybe you run into at other restaurants that you've gone to. So maybe there's an element of like, I'm turning it on a little bit, but I also don't think he's turning it on that much.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I think that's just his nature and he's very easygoing and very nice and super attentive and also it was not busy in there At all, right? He could afford to Sit there for two minutes and like yeah about movies and TV shows which yes, which he did which he did It's a Wednesday afternoon. So I get that it's not gonna be super busy But he was he was great. Yeah. It was great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And from someone who just went to a restaurant who got their ice tea and water filled up at the beginning and never got it filled up again until I got my check, this was a breath of fresh air at the amount of times he was checking on my beverage, cause I am someone. Oh, you mean a different restaurant you went to? A different restaurant that happened. I am someone who Oh, you mean a different restaurant you went to a different restaurant. That happened. I am someone who needs to take a drink after like every bite. When I go to, like, if I go to Buffalo wild wings, I like their mango habanero
Starting point is 00:14:54 wings, which are really hot and I know water doesn't like actually help with heat, but I still like the hydration when I have heat, cause I don't necessarily want the heat to go. I like the spice. I like it. And when I go to Buffalo wild wings, especially the one in Burbank, I'm so used to kind of being forgotten about by the servers that upfront I'll be like, uh, I know this is going to sound crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Can I order four waters for myself? Yes. Because one, I'll drink one all the way through before the thing even gets here. And then as I'm eating the really hot wings, I will go through them and I know that they're not going to be refilling them and I don't want to be flagging someone down while my mouth is burning a little. Yes. And that is why I normally, I did do this at the last restaurant that I was just complaining about, but normally I will bring in a water bottle of my own just in case they forget about me.
Starting point is 00:15:37 No, this guy was good. I actually thought it bordered on pushiness to the, to the, the T, the T the T D U. It's like, you want more tea and you're like, I'm good. And he offered like four more times after that. I'm good. Yeah. Which I just, it tickled me. It tickled me too.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And it wasn't a lot, but I did like when he was like chiming in with like, we were talking about TV shows and he chimed in with his opinions about them. And then it was talking, we talked a little bit of star Wars stuff and I loved, I loved that as well, even though I'm not as familiar, but like you too we talked a little bit of Star Wars stuff and I loved, I loved that as well even though I'm not as familiar but like you two had like a little bond over like- I feel like you're being careful to not out me for the epi- cause he and I, me and the waiter share a very controversial Star Wars opinion and we were like, oh my gosh, are we in a safe space where like we can express this opinion and not have people jump down our throat and even you
Starting point is 00:16:23 were like, wow. And I don't pretend to know anything about Star Wars. I just know and I love how we're dancing around what your opinion is right now. I'm never going to say. Okay. I don't want to say it either, but I was like, I've heard about this. The people who have these opinions. If you join my discord, I'll tell you what the thing was. I'll say it there. Yeah. Okay. I was teaching a class, an improv class several years ago now and I had a student who was in my age range, which at the time was, I think I was in my 40s at that point,
Starting point is 00:16:59 but he was like around my age range and he said that his favorite Star Wars were the Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith. He's like, those are my favorite. And again, I'm not a Star Wars head or anything like that, but I was like, what? You're my age.
Starting point is 00:17:15 That is weird just given the age. Someone like, because for me, Phantom Menace came out when I was like 12 or 11. It would make sense. It's not my favorite, but it would make sense. It would make sense to me too. But he had a similar reasoning that does make sense, which is I saw these first.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I never saw the original three. Oh, sure. I was like, oh, okay, that does explain it. You didn't see the original three? And I don't care if someone hasn't seen a 40 year old movie. Like fine, you haven't seen a million. I've never seen Titanic. So I understand that, but also I was surprised at that.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But also, great. At this point, are you avoiding Titanic or you just not gotten to it? I don't have a reason to see it. Like I know what happens. Yeah. We've all talked about it, everyone's talked about it many times.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Wait, what happens? They sail around the world. Spoilers. It's amazing. That would actually be so funny They sail around the world. It's amazing. That would actually be so funny if they didn't announce that it was like an alternate take where the Titanic just arrived safely. Everyone's thankful. There's no reason.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I didn't see it at the time because I was a little bit out of the, I was like in college. I think that came on like 95, 96, something like that. And I was a little. 97. 97. And I'm in college at that point. That's just not in my wheel I think that came on like 95, 96, something like that. And I was a little- 97. 97. And I'm in college at that point, and that's just not in my wheelhouse, that type of movie.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And then because I know what happens, not a fun ending. And I don't like, I don't love movies that are just like a sad ending. So I just have never had a big reason to see it. But if I was forced to watch it, I could easily watch it. I don't know about easily, it's three hours. It's a long one.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You know? Yeah. I don't know about easily. It's three hours. It's a long one. You know? Yeah. I am so just over the, can we bring back the 100 minute movie? Oh, yes. I have a friend, my friend Casey Fay is like 90 minutes, 90 minutes. And anything over that, he's like, I don't get it. I don't understand why this is.
Starting point is 00:18:57 This could be a classic, but it's not because it's too long. It doesn't need to be that long. It never does. It never does. Or just make a sequel. I'm okay with a sequel. Yes. I don't want to go to a movie theater. The Brutalist, you have an intermission in your movie?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Wild, wild. I get that's a throwback to like old times or something. I'll just say one extra thing here, and this is no longer a thing in California, but this is one of the reasons why I love places like Los Angeles, is that at one point in Los Angeles on Western Avenue there was a Titanic the movie themed restaurant on Western in Koreatown that was called Jack's. This was made not right when the movie came out this was like like a decade after the movie had already come out. And the restaurant looked like a ship. And inside, when I say Titanic, the movie theme, they had movie stills inside on the walls.
Starting point is 00:19:54 That was kind of the thing. It wasn't heavy beyond that. And the fact that it looked kind of like a ship. But they were selling boba tea and- Weird. Yeah, like the- Nothing that's specific to the time or it was like Korean inspired food.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And but it was like the homage. The guy who opened it really loved the movie, got alone. All the tables should have been doors that clearly have room for two people, but only one could be on it. Yes. And then you have to hold the hand of the person you're with.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Hang out this side. Yes. Anyways, this is what we talked about with our waiter. Yes, it is. All of this. We talked movies, Star Wars TV shows, stuff we liked. Yeah. And just the notion that like, hey, we're just cool kind of being along for the ride. Not everything needs to be critiqued to hell. We all seem to share that viewpoint.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yep. Yeah. So, yeah, he was great. Two thumbs up for the service, I would say. Two thumbs up for the atmosphere, I would say. Absolutely. Two thumbs up for the service, I would say. Two thumbs up for the atmosphere, I would say. Two thumbs up for the food, I would say, overall. And so now let's get to the stuff that I think is like really good. And I'll go from worst of the really good
Starting point is 00:20:56 to best of the really good. The beans, little bit of a kick, little bit of sweetness, but they are a consistent banger. When you go to Gus's, I'm getting beans every time, seven out of 10. Yes. Beans to me with fried chicken, like that feels like they go together as a staple. They were so good. And I wouldn't say they were like anything like, this is crazy. I don't really like it. They were just like so solid and like so satisfying. And I who got potato salad
Starting point is 00:21:24 with mine, mixed them in with my potato salad and I who got potato salad with mine mixed him in the light with my potato salad and I loved the combo and they were great nice yeah they're their beans hit always I got fries as my other side and I dipped the fries into like the bean goo and occasionally get some some bean on the fry and everything about the plate combinations you can get here mixes well with the other things they all make make sense. Yeah. They all make sense. The fries, they have a seasoned fry. It's a very subtle seasoning.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Very. It's not a lot, but it is enough for this to stand out. And then they have found kind of like the perfect balance of how much to fry it versus like how potato-y is it. It's just the right balance. And I couldn't put it into words or like into numbers, what that ratio is. No, but they've hit it. They've hit it and it works well with fried chicken.
Starting point is 00:22:12 It was really good. I only had one of your fries. I was jealous. I could have easily gotten a side of fries. That was really, really good. On that note, I'm gonna kind of move into one thing, which is just the overall menu. We talked a little bit about this at the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:22:29 That really hit for me was it's limited menu. They just make the stuff that they know how to make and that they're good at. And I'm not left with having to make a choice out of a million different options. It's a limited amount. I don't need a Cheesecake Factory menu. I never want a Cheesecake Factory menu. I never want a Cheesecake Factory menu.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I never want it. And really, I think pretty much almost everything on this menu, if we'd have gotten it, I'd have been like, great, I'm fine with this. This works. Super, super good. Yeah. I went eight out of 10 on the fries. Did you have a score for, I mean, I know you just had one. Easily eight out of 10. Yeah. The pecan pie with the vanilla ice cream, very solid. The crust kind of brought it down a little bit for me. It was just a little dry. But the actual like pecan, I don't even know what the right word is, like the jelly type inside of the pecan pie.
Starting point is 00:23:19 The pecans were nice and crisp while the inside was a warm, delicious, gooey center. Yes. If it wasn't for that crust, this would be up there. Wouldn't be in the conversation for best pecan pie I've had. That belongs to the Saltlick in Austin, Texas, barbecue place. Amazing pecan pie. First place I ever had it, and I've never had anything that matched it since.
Starting point is 00:23:41 But for this, seven and a half out of 10. Very respectable for a dessert, but that crust, I think, needs some work. I'm gonna sit and of 10. Very respectable for a dessert, but that crust I think needs some work. I'm gonna sit and talk about my pie just for a second. Yeah, the chocolate chest. Chocolate chest, I never had a chest pie, never had chocolate chest pie. You could get it with just the pie,
Starting point is 00:23:56 you could get it with ice cream on top, or you could get ice cream on the side. And you could get it heated or not heated. We got ours heated, we got ours both L-mode, you got yours on the pie, I got mine on the side. But they gave me my ice cream in a little cup, little paper cup on the side, which I've never seen before and I absolutely loved it.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And my pie. Like you've never seen ice cream in a paper cup? Never was served, when I get my pie. Oh, like with pie, gotcha. Yeah, it would just be on the plate next to it. But this was like an individual little cup next to it. Gotcha. I could just scoop it out as I wish.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I thought like cups were new to you. And I'm like, Dave, you gotta get out more. I'm a bowl guy. I'm a bowl man. But this pie, I will say, this is maybe like almost a double score. The pie was an eight. The pie was great.
Starting point is 00:24:41 It wasn't overly sweet. It wasn't huge. It wasn't overly sweet. It wasn't huge. It wasn't overly decadent after having fried pickles, fried okra, fried chicken. To me, this was like the perfect level of not too sweet, not too big, just the right amount. It's not like the best pie I've ever had. Like you said, the crust isn't ideal,
Starting point is 00:25:00 but like it's a solid eight. But because it's a solid eight, in the overall scheme of things, it's more like eight. But because it's a solid eight, in the overall scheme of things, it's more like a 10 for me in the experience because it's exactly what I needed at that point in the meal. Yeah. Maybe if I was getting pie on my own, and like, that's all I was getting and no other food,
Starting point is 00:25:16 it would rank maybe a little lower, wouldn't be as satisfying to me, but because of everything we had before, this felt like the perfect amount after. It was an exclamation point at the end of a sentence. I loved it. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah, and chest pie, for people who may not know, is a vanilla custard pie, and then the chocolate is, like, intermixed with that, basically. Yeah, it was great. So they have chest pie and chocolate chest pie, both of which being the ones that they are known for. And then by the time I was going to be like,
Starting point is 00:25:42 oh, let me grab a scoop, Dave had housed it in... Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. No, it, let me grab a scoop. Dave had housed it in. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. It's fine. Okay, okay. I didn't say anything. It's fine. But I was just like, must've been great.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I've had it before. Yeah, you've had it before. I've had it before. So it's not like you denied me an experience that I'll never have. I've also got a sweet tooth. I'll say that right off the bat. I definitely got a sweet tooth.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Mine's insatiable, I get it. Yes. Cool. And then, yeah, now let's get to the star I get it. Yes. Cool. And then, yeah, now let's get to like the star of the show. Yep. Championship Chicken. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:11 They have one style of chicken. It is fried chicken. You can get it dark. You can get it white meat. You can get tenders. And I think that I saw in the bar they had a topper for a sandwich, which is new for them. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Which is like a throwback to what they used to be. Oh. And I usually go the dark. I've had their tenders before. I've had their white meat before. None of it has ever served me wrong. So for the dark, you get two thighs and a leg, which is substantial.
Starting point is 00:26:41 If you're gonna go two and one, a lot of places might choose two legs cause they're smaller and a thigh, but nope, they go two thighs, one leg. And the leg juicy, very juicy, just the right, like the perfect level of spice. I think for someone who doesn't handle spice well, this is still manageable, but maybe pushing a limit. And for people who really like spice, this is gonna give them that
Starting point is 00:27:08 without being too underwhelming. Yes, agreed. So I think it's in that perfect spot on the spectrum of an accessible spice. Yes, I didn't know there was gonna be any spice on the chicken. So that was a surprise to me, a pleasant surprise. And I loved it.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like I like spicy, but I overestimate how much I like spicy and then it gets too hot for me. This was like a nice kick, a surprise kick, and I really liked it. And it really made the chicken for me because this one, again, I would rate it top tier. But historically, I'm a white meat guy. I'm Midwest through and through,
Starting point is 00:27:44 not that paint everyone from the Midwest with this brush, but a lot of us like white meat guy. I'm Midwest through and through, not that paint everyone from the Midwest with this brush, but a lot of us like white meat. It's a plainer option. And I am, I would probably, not probably, I would classify myself as a, when it comes to chicken, a bit of a dry guy. I don't mind if it's dry. That doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And part of that also comes from like when I was making chicken breasts on my Foreman grill, you know, in college and beyond, I was so afraid of like food poisoning or under cooking. I'd overcook it and I'd just eat it super dry. So I'm probably used to, at least I'm safe. At least I'm safe, that's right. And so this was a new venture for me
Starting point is 00:28:22 because I also got the dark meat. And so by no fault of its own, if I went again, I would probably get the white meat because that's what I'm used to. But as a person who never gets dark meat, I really enjoyed it and I see why people like it and I get it and I would still get white meat next time. But I'm glad I did it.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And that spicy batter really goes a long way. It's so good. It's so good. And I ate as much of that chicken as I could. It was great. And you don't need sauce. No sauce, none. They offer, they have a hot sauce on the table.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I think it's Frank's. They have a ketchup on the table. That's for fries, you know? You don't need anything. Nothing. The chicken is so juicy on its own. You don't need to add anything for moisture. And the skin is so crispy that I think
Starting point is 00:29:04 adding a moisture element to the outside does it a disservice. Yep. Because that bite is so enjoyable. And I thought that the leg was very good. I went eight and a half out of 10. The thigh I thought was approaching perfection. I went nine and a half out of 10 on the thighs. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yes. I would go nine for both of those. And again, only because I'm a white meat guy and I've come to realize that more and more would I not go full 10, but that is no fault of the restaurant itself. That is my own personal taste. I really loved it.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And I'm gonna ask you a follow-up question that's unrelated to this most of the way, but is I bring it up only because within the last two weeks have I come to this realization about myself. Are you someone who likes, um, you like going to get wings? Um, like you said, from Buffalo Wild Wings or where else, right? Yeah. Flats or wings.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I think flats because the drums, uh, there's always like that one little weird tendon that pops out. And I don't enjoy that one little nubby thing. And it's on every single one of them. Flats, you can eat a higher percentage of the volume of the meat. Yes. I only in the last two weeks have realized that I like flats more than drums for the same reason that you're talking about right now. But only within two weeks have I discovered, and I'm 48 years old, that I'm like, oh, I'm a flats guy. Yeah. I will say this. Mechanically, a drum is easier to eat. And if it's super messy,
Starting point is 00:30:37 I don't like getting my fingers super dirty. I like that practical element of the drums. Yes. Should we be eating with gloves? Wee wings? You know, I am not opposed to doing something weird like that if it is just for quality of life and comfort. Yeah. I don't care if people are like, look at those guys. Don't mind us.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah, I would I would do it in a heartbeat. Same, same. Yeah. Yeah, that's I mean, that's pretty much every, oh, the bathroom. Oh, my goodness. You made it sound like you went into a secure paradise. I went into the bathroom and right away, I could see that I was gonna love this place
Starting point is 00:31:21 because right outside that door, before you walk in, you look down and they've got those locks that on the outside will say vacant in green or occupied in red. And both of them were green. I didn't have to worry about if anyone was in there, I didn't have to knock on the door. I didn't have to be worried about, I'm going to open it up on someone. That is the best. Every single restaurant should have that lock on their door. It's the little things
Starting point is 00:31:46 It really is and you put words to a feeling that I never knew I felt so strongly Like I'm in full agreement. It's to the point where like The worst bathrooms on the planet are in airplanes. We know this. Yeah, actually Greyhound buses, but but airplanes on the planet are in airplanes. We know this. Actually Greyhound buses. But airplanes do have that. And it makes me, it like adds four points to an airplane bathroom door. I'm like, look, I'm going in a tight space. I hate it. I have to cover my ears when I flush
Starting point is 00:32:20 because of that like crazy suction noise to the point where I will always like keep my Bluetooth headphones on when I get up from my seat to go to the restroom just to like do some noise cancellation on that flush. But I always know when I lock this thing, the lights turn on as a result. It's letting everyone know. And then even better, there's an overhead, like X over the bathroom door for everyone to see,
Starting point is 00:32:48 hey, Michael's here. You know? It's so, it's so simple. And the people who own these restaurants or these planes or whatever, they all experience these bathrooms. They all know that what we all like, they all like it too.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And that you go- And most of them are skimping. Most of them are skimping, but you go into this bathroom at Gus's and first off, you got the little twisting on the doorknob itself, which is always a little bit early. You're like, is this gonna work or not gonna work? And you do that thing, you're like, all right, well, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But then you have the lock that you know is gonna flip to occupied and that feels secure. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm in, I'm good. But beyond that, above that, they had a little one of those like little latches that you can slide to the left or slide to the right or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And I'm like- The like bolt? Yes, the little bolt. And I'll be honest, I'm not sure that one was that working that well, but I was like, this is a third lock. This is purely excess. It's aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And then they had the chain, like a hotel room. And then they had like a thumb print. And then they had this bar that you could put down over the door They make a medieval times. They have to like ram it. Yeah Yes, yeah, no one's walking in on you. No one's walking in this bathroom was spacious. It was clean. It was great I loved it. Everyone do your bathrooms like Gus's. Yes Anyways, that's it for the good. That's all the good elements of Gus's world famous fried chicken. Now we got to jump into the not good.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I already mentioned nothing. Yeah, there's nothing here. I mentioned mine, which is that at the most it was a mistake on my part that I got darker instead of white, but also it wasn't a mistake because I wanted to get dark. I wanted to try dark and the dark was very good. I loved it. There was not an element of this
Starting point is 00:34:40 and that includes that unsweetened tea, which was honestly very good. And I love an unsweetened tea they gave you the option for sweetened which gives us some of that southern flavor yeah but they also have an unsweetened and that unsweetened tea I could drink it all day even though we're in the not good we have we have time to fill what a what score would you give the unsweeted tea even if it is in the good 10 out of 10 10 out of 10 for their unsweeted tea absolutely all right this is the first time in history that a 10 out of 10 has been given out in the not good
Starting point is 00:35:07 segment. Let's move on to the next segment, the Just There. I only had two things here. Yeah, this is for the stuff that is just there. I only had two things here. Yeah. Did you have anything in Just There that you thought was just mediocre? It was all good.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Nope, I had nothing in the Just There department. Everything was at a minimum good. So for me, potato salad, and again, this is my first time having it. There are a few foods, like pickles are one of them, where it's like, I kinda had to warm up on them. I tried it for the first time. I'm like, okay, I can do this.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I can be a brave boy, you know? And then I find like, okay, now who has the best pickles or who has this or that? So I'll find my way with potato salad. For an entry point, I tried it, I started it, and I was like, this tastes like mashed potatoes, but colder and wetter. That said, the other tastes that were a little bit different,
Starting point is 00:36:03 the egginess of it, and was there like some like pickled element? I don't know. I feel like I was getting, there's like, um, either some relish or some celery or something. That's what it was. Okay. It was new and I'm not comfortable with it yet, but it was fine.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yes. I went five and a half out of 10. Uh, I will have it more. Yep. Um, is it always served cold? It's always served cold. Yes. Which I as a kid never would? It's always served cold. Yes. Which I as a kid never would have eaten that cause that cold element would have
Starting point is 00:36:29 thrown me off all the stuff would have thrown me off. I didn't like mayo as a kid. Now I like it, especially when it's something like fried chicken, where it feels like this is like a backyard barbecue almost feeling to it, right? And then it feels potato salad, in my opinion, feels like it goes with this. It feels right right now. So then I like to do that and kind of dive into that element. I may have thrown coleslaw into the mix of this because I just don't generally like coleslaw all that much,
Starting point is 00:36:49 but since we didn't get it, I don't have an opinion on it. But that's not my favorite. Coleslaw has kind of been this weird thing where like, I started having it because of the podcast and I never want to order it, but every time I have it, I'm like, yeah, this is pretty good. Oh, that's nice. But I never want it.
Starting point is 00:37:04 No, I never want it. It's not a sexy option. it, I'm like, yeah, this is pretty good. Oh, that's nice. But I never want it. No, I never want it. It's not a sexy option. It doesn't stand out and be like, pick me. You're gonna want me, I'm enticing. It's kind of like a, I'm too lazy to modify. Yeah, and I'll tell you what, absolutely, and that name is not doing it any favors.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Coleslaw, sounds like the nerdiest kid at school. Yes, yes it does. Yeah, and then the other thing I had in the just there is the fried pickles. Uh, I prefer like the little, uh, coined coin shaped sliced pickles, uh, especially as a fried pickle, because I think the ratio of battered a pickle is a little bit more to my preference. This was a lot of pickle. This was a big, you know, quarter of a spear basically and long battered. And I bit into the of pickle. This was a big quarter of a spear basically. And long battered.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And I bit into the first one, it was scalding, and I had that onion ring effect where because it's a moist thing battered, the batter doesn't stick to it. So the batter slid off, and I just have this piping hot bit of pickle dangling out of my mouth. We are two minutes into actually uh, actually dining together.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I'm self conscious. I left my notebook at home and had to run back to get it because you were gracious enough to be like, it's okay. Cause I live so close. And by the way, I did the full drive in five minutes. It was so fast. It was so fast. And, uh, and so I'm like, so-conscious of like, oh God.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And then I reach for it and my hand's getting burnt. My mouth is getting burnt. I can't, like if I just bite down to sever it, it'll drop into my lap or like I have to like, put my head over the, there was no graceful way out of it. And it made a fool out of me and I don't appreciate that. I didn't want to tell you, but the two other people in the restaurant could not stop staring
Starting point is 00:38:46 at you. They were wondering what was going on. They were doing imitations of you behind your back. Yeah, yeah. Yep. They're very broad impressions too. Very, very. I went four and a half out of 10.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Still not like terrible, you know, still in the realm of average. Little below average for my tastes, But I do like a fried pickle. There are some places that I think do a really good fried pickle. And if I liked the pickly taste more, Gus's might be more up there for me, but as a matter of personal preference, not the case. Understandable. They're outside, I'll say, not, this isn't mediocre. This falls into good category.
Starting point is 00:39:23 They're outside neon. I like, and that like yellow, green, red color scheme is what I think they kind of go with stoplights. It's great. Yeah. It's great. When a restaurant like a fried chicken, which I think consider a comfort food, pizza also kind of a comfort food.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Um, when they're outside colors are not including some sort of warm colors, like a yellow or a red. I'm like, what are you doing? What are these cool colors going on here? So like, I feel like, you know, it's like Arby's, McDonald's burger king, pizza hut, they're all like warm colors. And I find that there's probably some science. I'm sure there is behind it.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Like people associate that with like warm food or tasty food or something. Okay. Well, uh, that's all for what's just there. We need to take all of these components of Gus's world famous fried chicken and put them together into a score so that we can average them together and put them up on the tchotchke of mediocrity. But before we do that, Dave, this is your first time on the fine dining podcast. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:26 You haven't been to the a hundred restaurants or more that I've been to. We just have different levels of calibrated. Yep. Niss calibration. I can, I know words. It's getting late in the podcast. Losing it. Um, we know that Chili's is our true North.
Starting point is 00:40:42 It is the perfect five out of 10. Yes. But that still doesn't mean we know how far your scale spreads in either direction. So we gotta find the bottom, we gotta find the top. Got it. So we're gonna head into this week's Calibration Station. Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:40:57 Calibration Station. Comparing this meal to the best or the worst. Calibration station. Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, choo choo. Okay, Dave. The best restaurant experience you've ever had, something you would call a 10 out of 10, or the worst restaurant experience you've ever had,
Starting point is 00:41:18 something that you'd call a zero out of 10, we're gonna go into both of them, but start with whichever one you want. I'm gonna start with the worst one. And this one is, I'm not even blaming the restaurant here, but this is just the experience that I had. This is a childhood experience that has unfortunately haunted me ever since.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And I'll tell you why in just a moment. The restaurant at the time was located in the Sheboygan Memorial Mall in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. And my mom, my older sister Suzanne, and I went to the mall and they have a little food court. They had a little food court. And when I say little, I mean, there was a Sbarro's,
Starting point is 00:42:00 there was an original cookie, and there was a hot dogs and more And I was never heard of hot dogs and more I was expecting hot dog on a stick Uh-huh, which tells you everything it is this one leaves some things vague vague Yes on the other side of the mall There was a diamond Dave's taco company and there and there was also a little dining area in the Walgreens But we're talking where the food court was This is weird. There's a dining area in the Walgreens, but we're talking where the food court was. This is a weird place. There was a dining area in the Walgreens?
Starting point is 00:42:27 I believe so. You know what, now that I say that out loud, maybe I'm wrong on that. I'd have to ask my sisters. Okay. But we went to the hot dogs and more, and I've never seen hot dogs and more anywhere else in my life.
Starting point is 00:42:38 This is the only one. And I wish I could go back in time and go to these places again. But I went to Sbarro's and got pizza. And I forget how, I was pretty young, elementary school. And my mom and sister went to Hot Dogs and More. And so I went and got my food and I probably wolfed it down too fast. And I went into Hot Dogs and More and that's, they're sitting, I'm waiting for, I'm watching
Starting point is 00:43:02 them eat whatever. And I'm getting nauseous and at some point in the hot dogs and more and this is a gross story or warning I throw up only I throw up in my hands like I hold my hands to my mouth and I throw up and the vomit is like leaking through my hands. As it would. As it would and my mom was like, get out of the bathroom. You do not have webbed fingers. I do not have webbed fingers and I'm sick
Starting point is 00:43:33 and my mom's like, get to the bathroom, get to the bathroom. And my sister Suzanne, who is not dissimilar for me, is relishing in this moment of her younger brother at a low. And I would say once a year, since that time, that gets brought up, loves to bring it up in front of my family, in front of our family, that that moment happened to me at Hot Dogs and More
Starting point is 00:43:58 after I'd eaten at Sabaro's. I don't even know if it was at Sabaro's, I think it was, but she loves the point of the time where I had no control over getting sick and throwing up in my hands. And that is my low that I can recall, but mainly because of Suzanne. I love that your zero can't even be pinned down
Starting point is 00:44:14 to whether to blame a Sabaro or hot dog for more. Right. One of those two is the zero. One of those two is the culprit. It's a gray area. And they both sound like they could be the culprit based on what we know of them. It was a tag area. And they both sound like they could be the culprit based on what we know of them.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It was a tag team effort. For sure it was. For sure it was. Now we're gonna fast forward to my best. Yeah. And that happened this past weekend. Oh really? Yes, that happened this past weekend.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Let me ask you, do you think it has recency bias or do you genuinely think it's the best you've ever had? It definitely has recency bias, but kind of touching on the restaurants that I wanted to make up and create. Yeah. Which is fresh modern food. Oh, sure. And a little diner next door that had pie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So recently, for the first time, my girlfriend and I went to a restaurant out here in Los Angeles in a neighborhood called Eagle Rock called Little Beast. And if you've never heard of it, I'd never been. She'd never been. It's a house converted into a restaurant. Okay. So we went and it was cozy. We sat outside in the pat on their like front porch area that they converted into like tables and stuff like that. Their backyard also had tables
Starting point is 00:45:19 and the interior had a small bar and a few more tables. I liked not only the food that we got there, but I liked the way that we ate it. Here's what we did, which I don't, which we don't always normally do, and I don't normally do, but she, Kimberly, my girlfriend gave a great suggestion, which is not a unique suggestion,
Starting point is 00:45:38 it's just one that we don't always heed. Sometimes we'll order too much, or we'll each order a main this time, because we'd like, we'd like, I like this, I like this. I thought, I think this looks good. I think this looks good. And it's like, well, why don't we just get a couple more things, but we just will get one main and we'll split that. So we ended up getting a couple more, a couple of appetizers, a salad, the main.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And it worked out perfect. Just splitting all of those things amongst the two of us. So we got, to start with, we got this house bread and spread, which is obviously just bread and butter, but the bread was super fresh and good, and it came with a garlic chili butter with sea salt, and it was so good. Let me just tell you a little bit of sea salt in a table bread.
Starting point is 00:46:30 It is a game changer because the texture adds something that all like it, the taste is there. We know that salt is good, but that texture really elevates the table bread. I like, I think table breads are such an overlooked element of the restaurant experience, a place with a great table bread immediately. I'm like, I'm coming back here. Especially when they're done right. It was so good and wasn't too much. It wasn't too little.
Starting point is 00:46:51 It was a nice little amount. I was like, oh man, I'm glad we got this bread. Usually just sometimes could be just a filler and this felt super satisfying. Garlic chili sounds good too. It was so good. And then we got something that she wanted to get. I like this stuff as well, but I was like, we already got the bread and
Starting point is 00:47:08 butter, but she's like, let's get the ancho chili black bean hummus, which is garbanzo beans, ancho chili. I don't know what that is. Cilantro, cumin, jalapeno, black bean relish served with tahini pita chips. It was a highlight. Those tahini pita chips were great and the hummus was so good. And it was such like a flavorful hummus.
Starting point is 00:47:31 It was awesome. And we loved it. Ate it all up immediately. And I'm liking the sharing element to it. I've also got one blonde beer, which is like almost all I can handle at this point in my age. I'm like, this is good. I'm having one beer.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I don't need more than this. It's delicious and flavorful. Then we got a wild arugula Caesar. Are you an arugula fan? Sure. I am too. The pepperiness of the arugula is so good. Fennel, apple, shaved, Brussels sprouts, breadcrumbs, goat cheese, Caesar
Starting point is 00:48:02 dressing that may be where we lose you. Take the cheese out though, everything else there. I'm like, I would get that. It was great. Put a different dressing on there or something for me that doesn't have Parmesan in it. Yes, it was light enough. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:48:14 It was really good. And I'm like, all right, we're eating a good chunk of food, but it's all still feeling relatively light. And then we got her entree and she suggested, hey, let's get the mushroom and lentils, which are marsala, creamy polenta, balsamic reduction, and these mushrooms that were cooked so well and were so tasty.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And because it was a vegetable dish or maybe even a vegan dish, was so light and good. And it was like the perfect amount of food, even though, and, and, and we also got some fries with it, we also got a fresh fries, which were also great. The French fries came with two dips, one classic ketchup, not a house made ketchup, a classic Heinz ketchup, which I think is the best. And then they also included like an aioli.
Starting point is 00:49:05 So they gave us two, one kind of fun and one very basic. It was awesome. It was an awesome meal, shared everything. Yeah. Genuinely good, again, kind of like modern cuisine, very accessible. Everything was busy, people were having a good time. Did you go next door and go to a diner after?
Starting point is 00:49:23 And then we walked to Cindy's restaurant immediately next door. Very 50s style diner, very bright, very cheery. And we got ourselves, for the first time I've ever had this, a chocolate pecan pie, which they had a specific name for. I love it. But it was so good and easy. We split that with a scoop of ice cream and then went home and it was it was fairly affordable. The restaurant is a little on the pricey side admittedly. Cindy's
Starting point is 00:49:53 more accessible. Gotcha. But the restaurant was absolutely worth it and if you're in Los Angeles, Little Beast is worth going to at least once. It was just really, really nice and we looked at everyone else's food too as we were trying to decide. And everyone's food looked delicious. Awesome. Well, somewhere between hot dogs and more slash Sabaro and little beast slash Cindy's, both hybrid options for very different reasons,
Starting point is 00:50:20 lies Gus's world famous fried chicken. With chilies right in the middle, it is time to put Gus's world famous fried chicken to the chilies test. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's time to set scale.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Will it pass or will it fail? Is it the worst, is it the best? Let's put it to the chilies test. Okay, Dave. Yes. You're calibrated. Yes. We know where our zero, our five, and our 10 stand.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Your guideposts to rate Gus's world famous fried chicken. Would you like to go first or would you like me to go first? I'm gonna go first. We're gonna save you best for last. Best for last. That's right, that's right. The veteran, the head honcho, we put more stake in what you think. So I'm gonna rate this restaurant.
Starting point is 00:51:08 We talked a little bit about this earlier, right? And I'm gonna say now after having our conversation, I may have erred a little high, but I'm sticking with it. I had a really wonderful time today and in no short part, do the conversation and company. It was great. Honestly, we had like a nice conversation.
Starting point is 00:51:32 It was very fun, very easy. And again, an unexpected kind of Wednesday afternoon meal at a place I'd never been to and really enjoyed. I would go here, I would recommend this to anybody if they're looking for a good fried chicken joint. I'm giving Gus's world famous fried chicken 9.28. 9.28. I am a bit lower than you, but kind of
Starting point is 00:52:00 with the same level of affinity and affection for the place. Sure. When I think of like the verbiage I use to categorize different categories of restaurant, if I'm saying a six to seven and a half is good, seven and a half to eight and a half is great, to me, Gus's World Famous Fried Chicken is a great restaurant experience. And in a world where the food is the most important thing this is definitely scoring higher for me I do like the ambiance here I do like the service here but it is still like a tier below some of those like
Starting point is 00:52:36 really top you know Michelin restaurants which yes look one of my highest scoring places is literally Dan's hamburgers which is like a hole in the wall diner in Austin, Texas, that I unapologetically love to death. So it is possible for those things to kind of soar to that level. And Gus's, it's not in the nines for me. It's not in the eights, but it is still a great restaurant that comes highly recommended. And I actually think after our conversation, I went a little bit on the low side. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So I think that what our average will end up being, course corrects and probably puts it where it deserves to be. I went 7.54. Whoa. Okay. So when you put your score together with my score, Gus's world famous fried chicken goes up on the tchotchke of mediocrity at an 8.41. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And that feels fair to me. That feels fair. Oh man. Oh, look at that. Look at that. It's the sixth highest scoring restaurant in this entire journey. I went pretty high. But yeah, I mean, it comes highly recommended.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I can see why it is a world champion at fried chicken. If you're going and just having chicken, you will leave here satisfied. 100%. And if you don't, the problem is you, you know? I mean, there's a good chance that no matter where you go, the problem is you. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:13 If you're the type of person who runs into assholes all day, you're the asshole, you know? That is how the expression goes. But this does mean that Gus's world famous fried chicken is definitively and officially better than Chili's. Battle of the Chili's, tentatively good. Poor Chili's. Hey, look, I'm not saying Chili's is bad.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I'm saying they're the line between good and bad, you know? you're right. You're right. You're right. They're fine. I went there and it was just like anything worse than this would be not great. Yes. And anything better than this, I would say is good. Yes. It wrote that line. Um, it was like a sobriety test. It was wobbling all over the place, but it passed. You can keep driving buddy. So, uh, yeah, I get to go somewhere else next week and determine yet another chain that I want to put up against chilies,
Starting point is 00:55:14 to run against the chilies test, to run the chilies gauntlet. Even though this episode had very little to do with chilies, it always has something to do with chilies. You better believe it does. So I'm gonna turn to the You Must Bowl, and I am going to draw and it will tell me which restaurant I must go to next week. My gosh. Next week on the fine dining podcast, I will be going to
Starting point is 00:55:42 Nathan's famous. All right. That'll be where I go next week. Dave, for this week, thank you so much for joining me. It was such a delight spending the time with you, getting lunch, catching up, all that good stuff. Yes. And I'm going to say right now, as someone who made me laugh in our improv class every week, you made me laugh once again this week. One time, and I will cherish it. of class every week. You made me laugh once again this week.
Starting point is 00:56:05 One time and I will cherish it. That's right. There's one joke that landed this entire two hours. Otherwise it was stone face Dave. Awesome, well thank you so much. Tell people where they can find you on the internet, on social media. Yes, you can catch me on Instagram at Dave Tooney.
Starting point is 00:56:24 If you just wanna see random pics of random stuff. And you can also catch me on Tuesday nights on NBC with St. Dennis Medical and then randomly in other shows and other places other times. And if you're in LA, go see Ask Kat. Are you on every week? Is it like a set team? I'm not on every week, so that's a little bit random, but you can catch me at Ask Kat on Saturday or Sunday night, check the schedule.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Also just check my Instagram, because I'll usually promote it. And then you can check me every second Friday of the month with my other house team, Bangarang, and we're paired with a very funny group named JV on Friday nights at 8.30. Awesome, and you can follow the show on Instagram and TikTok and bluesky at Fine Dining Podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:10 You can join the discussion in my Discord. I would love to have you. I will tell you what my controversial Star Wars opinion was if you question me in the Discord. So go join that if you wanna know what take will immediately make you be like, yeah, I'm gonna leave the Discord. and I have a Patreon where you can get an exclusive fine dining episode every single month
Starting point is 00:57:31 on the last day of the month, as well as the full Yelp from Strangers segments, and occasionally deleted scenes from the show, because sometimes I cut things for time, or because someone said something cancelable, and I make you pay to see that content. Uh... You should have seen the rant Dave went on earlier. because someone said something cancelable and I make you pay to see that content. Oh.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Oh, you should have seen the rant Dave went on earlier. Don't pay for it. Don't pay for it. Um, well, another restaurant has gone through the Chili's gauntlet and another one will be put to the test next week. In the meantime, thanks for watching. I'll see you next time. Have a fine day! We got a new ammo and everything's unlocked And that's cause Jim Lee's threw a letter to the D
Starting point is 00:58:30 It's the blood that gone and stung me after D after D So now we got a brand new kind of test That's what once we got to know Who should I know yet Best of what we gotta know We should lay out the edge Triple dip, we got the ribs on main course Perfect little in the middle, it's gone Now it's got to be the lock for what we use When we put things up on the charge gate
Starting point is 00:59:00 We operate So there's another one in the books We are today! So there's another morning for folks, yeah, there's another morning for folks And we will see you next week, next week baby

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