First Things First - Bears trade D.J. Moore to Bills, Celtics ‘can win it all’ with Tatum returning, BUD List

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

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I from New York looks like someone here convinced someone else to believe in the rocket. No, shoot. See, that's why that's why Brew is the Hornets guy. Chris, can we just do it again? Let me do it again. Just take the same shot. Go ahead, Chris. I promise.

I should be the Hornet Scott. No, I don't know. So this is just. Live from New York is the show that convinced someone here to believe in the Charlotte Hornets, the H.O. I didn't need convincing. What are you talking about? You said they were cute. How many times?

Times has LeMello been on the bud list? Me, imploring, begging, mellow, play winning basketball. One time. No, at least twice. Once when he was in Australia. At least twice. The Hornets are the real deal. Today, Josh Allen gets a new number one wide receiver.

How far can Josh and DJ Moore take the bills? Meanwhile, world baseball classic underway. Who do we have? Is Nick actually going to call us from the game in Tokyo and the Pascwatch? Yeah. joins us in about 45 minutes. Meanwhile, most motivational segment in all of sports, it's the Bud List. What a Bud List.

Breaking news today? It's a big. It's a big name Bud List. Huge, heavy hitters. It's all motivation, too. Oh, good. Love it. Kevin Wild, Nick Roy, Chris Bessart Brew, just quickly.

Because there's a lot of news today. Was there anyone on the bubble of the Bud List? There was one person. I forgot. There was one because I was considering four. I can't even remember who the fourth one was. The first three were so strong. We start with the rebuilding bills.

New coach, new stadium, and now a new number one wide receiver. DJ Moore headed to Buffalo along with a 2026 fifth round pin. Chicago getting a second round pick this year. Here's the raw numbers on DJ Moore. 50 catches, 682 yards. I thought these were going to be better. Six touchdowns. You didn't have a great year.

No Bills Wide receiver had more than four touchdowns, but these are career lows for him. It didn't really vibe with Caleb. What does this mean for Josh Allen? I love this. Great. I love this for Josh Allen and the bills. All right.

And look, if they had gotten A.J. Brown, I would have been like, oh, this is great. However, and he's better than DJ Moore, but there are, there's the chance. of him, you know, being a distraction. Let's put it that way, okay? I don't think you have that with DJ Moore.

I know there were some frustrations with him and Caleb, but for the most, I don't think you have that with DJ Moore. If they had gotten Mike Evans, I would have liked that too for Buffalo. However, Mike Evans will be 33 next season, before next season. And so, you know, how much longer does he have? Is he even still a number one,

a bona fide number one. So I think DJ Moore is a legit number one. I saw, obviously, we saw the numbers last year. You know, Roma, Dunes, they kind of became their number one guy, got hurt. And even Luther, you know, Burden after that was kind of, you know, the numbers aren't what we expected. But he, DJ Moore, I think, is a bona fide number one talent. In Carolina, he had three 1,000 yard receiving years with Teddy Bridgewater, I think

Kyle Allen and Darnold before the resurrection as his quarterbacks, as his main quarterbacks. Cam was hurt one year, you know, in and out and all that. So he is a, I think he's a legitimate number one. I'm not saying he's top five anything, but legitimate number one.

I think he's a professional. He's locked up through 2029 at like 24 million a year. So you're not going to pay a ton. He has experience with Joe Brady, having been in Carolina, Brady was his officer coordinator for a couple of years. He had big numbers there, even though he didn't

have, as I said, great quarterbacks. So I just think this is great for them. And this is, because it's not a guy that's going to draw a lot of attention to himself. You know, I just think it's perfect for them.

I think it's a perfect fit. I think it's solid. I think it's a solid move for the bill. Like a B. Yeah, I, I, You agree he's a legit number one? So I think he is an average number one. Like that if we lined up all the number one receivers in the league,

I think he's right, you know, around 15th. Like an average number one receiver, which they did not have. Right. And so that is, it's not that he's an average receiver. Yeah. He's an average amongst teams number ones. And they needed it. And your point about his career, it's really odd,

where his production seems to be inversely correlated to how good of his quarterback is, how good his quarterback is. His best year by far was with Fields. He had 1,300 some yards with Justin Fields. And his second most productive year, I think, was the Kyle Allen year, a year where... The 18 yards of...

And so he seems to be a guy that at least throughout his career, underwhelming quarterbacks, if they're like, man, lock on to him, he will go and be productive. For some reason, Caleb, who was not going to just look at him, whether it was last year or the year before, his production really didn't match. So I don't know what to make of that.

And we can talk more about the Bears piece of it in a world. Well, Caleb last year wasn't elite. Obviously this year, he's showing elite tend to. No, I know. But my point is Caleb, at every moment of his career, been a better passer than Fields, and the guy had 1,300 yards with field. So the only reason I'm even bringing that up is, I don't

know that I can simply say, well, if he had this production with those quarterbacks, this is what he'll have with Josh Allen, because we would have thought, going from Justin to Caleb, the production would go up, instead of got cut in half, essentially. The other thing I just want to mention, as you go,

he did have Joe Brady in Carolina, so this is right, a reunion, so maybe Joe Brady sees that he was underutilized and underdodied. in Chicago. And I think, so the reason I said solid is, I also think it's possible that he's just past his prime. Really?

Receivers weird. He'll be 29 in a couple months. He'll be 29 this off season. You know what? And so I think receivers are a weird position where it's obviously 29. You can still be at the peak your powers, but not always. And, but despite all that, I'm trying to neg the move because they didn't give us, giving up the 60th pick is totally fine.

And they got back a fifth. And they got back a fifth. So it's totally reasonable. And to your point, this year's contract is guaranteed. Next year's de facto guaranteed. And then after that, you know, it's pay by year for them. And $24 million for number one receiver is not bad. But the reason I like it the most is I think teams never want to risk opening free agency with gaping, glaring holes.

that you are then, especially if you're not drafting super high, like the Raiders have a glaring hole at quarterback, they know whether they're going to get them. If you're the bills and you didn't address receiver before the start of free agency, then all of a sudden it's like, are we going to pay 150 cents on the dollar for Alec Pierce that doesn't really solve our problem?

Or are we going to roll the dice that at pick 26, a receiver we like is there when we did that previously, and that's to a degree how we ended up with Keon Coleman. I'm not trying to kill him either, but that hasn't worked out. So they made it so they don't, receiver is not something KW that they absolutely must overpay for. They stabilize that.

They may draft another receiver too. 100%, which could happen. Yeah. Quickly, I want to touch on the Chicago side of things. The last pass of the year was this interception that Caleb threw that DJ Moore was criticized for being on the wrong page, not giving his all. There's differing opinions on it. Here was Caleb's season when targeting DJ Moore. So again, DJ Moore didn't have a great year by any stretch.

However, Caleb was pretty good when he's targeting him on the team, second, third, six touchdowns. It's tied for first passer rating was 102 when he was throwing in the ball. So what do you think this means for Caleb? I think Caleb will be fine. I mean, Roma Dunez is their number one receiver. Luther Burden has shown that he's good. They got the tight ends. Loveland was better than Commet for them.

So like they're fine. I don't know. I don't want to overplay or overstate whatever issues may have been with him and more. A lot of people have done that, particularly with that miscommunication. There seem to be a little frustration or tension there. I don't think it was too much. I just think they'll be fine without it. They got enough weapons and talent.

And, you know, Colin was saying, do they use some of the money they've cleared up to go get a Max Crosby or maybe the center, Tyler Lindelman. So, yeah, I mean, I think they'll be fine. They got enough receiver. So I agree with that piece of it. I think had they not traded them, he would have gone into next year as their fourth option.

Because I think Colson Loveland's going to be their number one option. That was Ben Johnson's first pick. he was excellent. You saw burden come on at the end of last year in particular, and they spent a high pick on him, and Adunze, they obviously spent a very high pick on before Ben Johnson got there. And so I think that they are, I don't want to say they're not going to miss DJ more,

but if he was going to be their fourth option, $24 million to be the bill's number one receiver is a bargain. $24 million to be the bearer's fourth option is a misallocation of resources. And I don't think they'll miss him. As good as I think he is and like him for Buffalo, I think they'll be... I don't think you miss him as long as your guy stay healthy. You know what I mean? And so that's the concern.

But you went somewhere where a similar place I was going. They now have picks 25, 57, and 60. Would you trade those three picks for Max Crosby? The 20, the 25th, a late first and two late seconds. 255760. Yes. I think I would. They're right there on the cusp.

It's time to win. get you, you know. And so you now, so that now again. The win, the Raiders win. They get a bunch of assets. They get a bunch of assets. You have the money to do it. Yeah.

You could still spend money to your point on Linderbom. You could try to address offensive line in free agents. And again, they're in a weird spot because I think they feel very left tackles, Tune, Tune, who's great. And left a right guard, right tackle is set. But their left tackle had a terrible injury during the playoffs and their center retired. So they do need to address that. There's no doubt about it.

it. But I think now you have, like if the, for the Raiders, if you are trying to get Max Crosby, the 60th pick is probably more attractive to the Raiders than DJ Moore. You know because the Raiders want young players to build with Fernando. I like that. So that to me is a trade that feels about fair. That maybe could happen. All right, let's head to Boston where Jason Tatum is poised to make his return against the Mavs on Friday. Now Boston is second in the East 41 and 21. Your reaction to this news that looks like we're going to see Tatum on the floor. I have a major announcement.

Excellent. And this might shock people because historically when it comes to New England sports, but the Celtics in particular, I can't believe this. I can't believe this. I've been something of a skeptic. And I've been wrong about Tatum and Brown quite a bit throughout their careers. And you've come around on Joe Missoula. Joe Missoula.

I mean, unlike Nick Siriani, I do just be like, I had Joe Missoula wins. And I look around the NBA landscape. I want to see how far you go. I am picking the Boston Celtics to win the NBA championship. Woo-wee. I'll give you credit for gut. Not the Eastern, just the Eastern Conference.

That's why I was wondering. I believe the Boston Celtics. With Tatum coming back, with this much time, I feel like he has two months before he needs to be 100%, and not meaning 100% of old Jason Tatum, but 100% as far as however good he's going to be in this, you know, this part of his rehab back, that's plenty of time because two months from now is the start of round two.

And I know we'll talk hornets later. I'm not just to say round one in the east is, you know, there's not some pitfalls, but they have been so impressive. Jalen's been so good. They've been so good even without Jalen this year. Six and one without him. I think the Boston Celtics are going to win the championship with Jason Tate and coming back. I wasn't ready for that.

It puts me in a bit of a pickle. Yeah, look. You're going to pick the Thunder. I'm not as nearly a confident. I think it's a bridge too far. Okay. But, and I usually don't, I usually pull against a team just because you're pulling for them, all right? Guys.

I usually don't want something to happen just because you wanted to happen. I can't believe that you guys are just taking my corner. I'm no. I'm not going to pick, at least right now, I don't feel like I really don't feel like I want to pick positive. What I'm saying is I would not be mad. This would be a great story. That's what I'm saying. Yes.

It would be a great. I would be happy for Jason Taylor. of course if this happened. Like it would be fantastic. Right now I don't feel like that's going to happen. I do think there's obviously a threat to win the East and I won't be mad if somebody says they're the favorite.

I mean, they are literally the favorite right now to win the East. I think I want to see how he fits in, how he's looking before I decide how far I think they can go. I love the fact, if he comes back tomorrow, like the reports are saying it is possible, you got 20 games. Yes.

20 games is plenty of time for him to get back in a groove and figure out for all of them to figure out, okay, how is Jason going to fit in here? How do we play? Now, a lot of these guys are different. Obviously, Jalen and Derek White and Pritchard and a lot of guys are similar or the same as last year, but a lot of the guys are different.

And so it's just, it's going to be interesting. to see how they worked this out. But look, here's the thing, too, Nick. Remember last year, the Knicks did beat them last year with Tatum in six. Now, it was 3-1 when Tatum got hurt. They were losing that. They were going to lose that series. They were losing that game.

That game and the series. Yeah. So they are not invincible by any stretch even with Tatum, but this certainly gives them a great chance to win the East. And I do agree with you that if they, were healthy all year, like say Tatum was here, we would be talking about them as, oh, they can win it all. Like, you know, they're right there with OKC and San Antonio and all these teams that have a chance.

So they got a shot. So a few questions. And I'll start with you, Nick, now that you have my Celtics as your champions. Listen, I just, last year I said I thought the Knicks could beat them. You thought I was crazy? That ended up happening. Yeah. A couple years before, I thought the Mavericks would beat them.

You thought I was crazy. I was wrong. You know what I mean? I've been, I've picked against them plenty of times. And some I've been right, some I've been wrong. Did you pick the Knicks last year? Yes. Or you just say, no, I picked the Knicks and Wilds kept saying that they were getting lucky,

that it was about like the Knicks had a bunch of threes and the Celtics didn't. So the Celtics really aren't. Are they your team? Yes, because he thought historically they are. Historically they are. But go ahead. A little bit of a bachelor when it comes to my NBA fan. Dejante Murray just came back from 13 months after he tore his Achilles.

Tatum's around 10. Dejante's just going. And again, everybody's different. When you had your surgery, the severity, et cetera, et cetera. He's yet to score. He's only played four games. He's yet to score 17, 15, 17, 13. He's around 25 minutes a game.

Do you think that is a average benchmark of where we expect to see Tatum? He certainly doesn't look like Dejante Murray of old, but he looks better than Dejante Murray on the bench in regular clothes. Yeah. So listen. Here's one of the reasons I'm optimistic about it. Brew, who's the NBA superstar you have said, a modern superstar, that is the easiest to just drop into a team?

Durant. There are some real similarities to Durant and Tatum's game. I'm not saying there are differences, obviously, but just like there are a lot of similarities to Luca and LeBron, you see one guy maybe kind of watched the other guy growing up and modeled some things. There's some real similarities to Tatum and Durant. And I think that even if Tatum is a reduced version of himself, just his raw size and scoring ability from the perimeter will,

not necessarily three point line justice, you know, from mid-range to three-point line, will be plug-in-play-ish. DeJante Murray's difference, so much of his game was athleticism and speed, point guard, where I think Tatum will take the longest to get back to himself is his ability as a slasher and his ability as a defender.

But who he's stepping in for in these minutes just by virtue of the fact that he's 6'9, he's a better defender than him. You know what I mean? Like if he is taking minutes from, whether it's Hauser or Shireman or whomever, like he is going to even in a lesser state. He's not going to hurt their defense.

So I don't know. I do not think we're going to get 28 point a game Jason Tatum this, like this year or this playoff run. But I don't think they have to have that when they were already one of the better teams

in basketball to have this put them over the top. Yeah, and their system, I mean, play hard on defense, be connected to your teammates, communicate, which he can do. Yes. And they spread the four, shoot threes. It's five out a lot of times.

Shoot the three. And for those, few guys that can actually beat their guy off the dribble, Pritcher, Jalen Brown, and we'll see if Tatum can still do that at this point. That's what they do. So it's not like that. I don't want to belittle it because Missoula is fantastic.

But I do think he can fit into that pretty seamlessly. I'm happy for him. I'll be rooting for him. I also wouldn't mind if it turns out he wants to play at the beginning of next year. His long, just his long,

Just his long-term health, I'm a little bit stressed about, I guess. So I- Not health, his long, like making sure that the real Jason Tatum is back. And a part of me feels like this jeopardizes. If you're assured that he won't, he's not going to re-injure himself during this playoff run or whatever, you still have question marks about whether he should be playing? I thought, and again, everybody's different, that Aaron, Rogers looked very different two years after the injury. But he didn't re-injure himself.

I'm not saying, but I'm saying just it feels like a two-year injury. So I guess, so this is. Most of about re-tearing it. I just mean, if you're talking about Durant, if Tatum was on Durant's timeline, he would come back in November of next year. Right. And so I think, so I guess my point is this. I think it is fair to say we should not expect to see first team all-MBA, Jason Tatum,

until November of next year. But can, you know, to use the Rogers' comp, was Rogers fresh off in Achilles still a better option than Max Brosmer? Yes. You know, he was a lesser version of himself. He couldn't do as many things, but he was still better than, like, backups. I don't know if he was. But he was 41.

I know, it's all different. It's hard. I mean, Kobe came back quickly. Now, Kobe was not the same. But it was also, Kobe was also, you know, in year 19 of his career or whatever. It's hard to just pick like Brandon Jennings, like Dominique was, Durant is. I don't know. Halliburton is taking an extra long time. No one's talking about Halliburton getting back.

Well, I don't know if Halliburton. Halliburton's not taking an extra long time. Halliburton tore his after Jason. Yeah, but he's not going to get an opportunity to play. Like if they were having the season, Indiana's having. Then he wouldn't be fun. Yeah. I can't imagine.

I just want opening. next year that Tatum is the best he can be. I don't think this better slow this down. Okay, if you don't think it slows it down, great. And he's probably looking at this. I'm sure he's thinking, we got a chance to win the championship. Like, I have a chance to win a championship, another championship. I think he's going to score.

I don't think he's going to be a role player. We'll see. World Baseball Classic started last night, Australia and South Korea get wins. Team USA played the Rockies. didn't go well for the Rockies. 14 to 4. Our lineup grew, here's who we feature. Again, nothing set in stone.

Bob Stewart Jr. That's powerful. Bryce, Aaron, Judge, Schwerber, Bregman, Cowell, Raleigh, Roman Anthony, Byron Buckson. Bryce, I mean, it's a power pack. And he should be playing with fast squads. Roman Anthony?

Oh. Yeah, I wonder how it works. Roman. Odds this year. number one. The DR's lineup. I have that too. The DR's lineup is sick. The DR's lineup. Tatis, Marte Soto, Vlad, Machado, Junior Camerreiro, Julio Rodriguez, Austin Wells, Perdomo, and Severino. Their lineup is crazy. Yeah. Japan, Venezuela, Puerto Rico, and then Mexico. Japan had been the second favorite. The DR just recently jumped.

The gradient and Pujolz is the coach. Okay. So what's your headline about the world baseball classic? We're in a little Monday. My headline is Thursday. Vlad or is it going up? Did we do headlines? Vlad Soto Shine. Oh. As D.R. Cruises. Now notice the spelling of cruises

to classic crown. That's O'Neill Cruz. I think this is the year, starting with the classic, that O'Neill Cruz reaches his potential. Wow. He's teased this. It's what, his third of third.

third or fourth full season in the league now, 27 years old. I think he's going to finally reach, fulfill his potential. And you said it. Vlad, Soto, Machado, Julio, Rai, Riggins. I mean, they, I wanted to put Tatis Jr. in the headline with Soto and Vlad, but I didn't have room. Like, they are stacked. They got some pitching, you know, Severino, Alcunerro.

Like, I think they, I got the DR winning this. I love it. Unfortunately for America. As evidence by Brew twice this show, if anything this show is known for, seeing a corner that someone else used to be on, they've abandoned it and grabbing it. Maybe I did that to Wilds with the Celtics.

Maybe Brew did it is trying to do it to Wilds with the Hornets and with O'Neill Cruz. Yeah, the O'Neill Cruz is my guy. Look at the tie. So you know what I looked around and I was like, Wait a minute. I think that corner's open. And it's not only a corner, it's a gorgeous islands in the Pacific Ocean.

Where I might be traveling to. Showtime. Brew misses the boat. Is Ohani, Otoni becoming the goat? Because you guys are right. America and the DR have the rosters. But they've got that guy. And you can never go wrong.

Exactly. And if I'm. Right, and I'm literally in Tokyo cheering for him. Do I become the Shozotani guy? I don't know. Some people are saying. Japan has won three times, so they're going for their fourth win. All right.

I have a lot of headlines on mine, okay? Oh, let's hear it. Because I dug into, because pitching is an issue. It's a little bit like Little League. There's pitch counts. It's really to protect the pitcher so the guys can't get overextended, et cetera, et cetera. Okay.

So here is a headline from I think it's the athletic, right, Dust. Okay. Why Paul Skeens is unlikely. to take the mound for Team USA in the potential final. So you already have to plan out if you're going to win it, who's going to pitch. So here's the issue. I know what you're thinking automatically, too many pitches. Not the issue, oddly.

So get this. If Skeen's pitched in the final coming off his first start and pool play Monday against Mexico, he would be working on seven days rest. Team USA manager, Mark DeRosa, said that would be too long between starts as Skeen prepares for the major league season. I thought it was going to be too short. No, it's actually too much rest. Because they're just trying to get them ready for the...

Yeah. Holding back from the first start, right? I mean, we... It's T USA. We got other guys that can pitch. Yes, but this is how they want... I get it. This is how they want to lay it out,

but it would be too long and then maybe in the back end. He doesn't want anything to do with Italy in the past watch. You don't want to wait to... I thought you were going to pick Italy. That being said, my headline, little Kishon, John. Johnson-esque, give me the darn ball. Skeens demands to pitch in the final.

Oh, despite DeRose. There's no, there's no rule against it. You wouldn't be up against any innings. So who do you have winning it? I would know. Obviously, US. Well, it just says he's pitching. I didn't need.

Brew had a winner. I had a winner. I'm just, I was checking. You don't believe that. You were going to go. Did I throw you off with the DR? No, but I like DR is like my silver medalist. You know I love second place teams.

Get to the final. Second place, we're still right there. A Steelers all in on Aaron Rogers, or is Kyler Murray lurking in the background? That's next. Hey, check out the podcast. John, number one you said in the world over those true crime podcasts.

Wow, number one in the world. And then our YouTube channel has just been excellent recently. It's got some great content. I turn on the captioning sometimes to read it too. There's one recurring weekly thing we have that doesn't do so well. You sure? What's Right Trivia? Also, at 4.25 p.m. Eastern time, okay, everybody?

So if you're in the West Coast, it would be 125. Yeah. Italy Captain Vinny, the Pasquatch Pasquantino joins today to talk about Team Italy. Brush off a nice arbitration deal with the Royals. Oh, what do you get? Some money. Oh, great. Good for him.

Like $8 million for a year? Good for him. It's pretty good. Shout to the Pasquatch. Aaron Rogers was back on Pat McAfee show, where he was very very much. very complimentary of his old coach Mike McCarthy. I like that part. But neither side, neither he or the Steelers,

seem to be in a rush to get a deal done. I don't know if I agree with part of that. Okay, very interesting. Well, I am taking a little bit of editorial license. Yeah. Hey. There hasn't been any deadline set on me. There hasn't been any contract floated in front of me.

Should the Steelers wait on Rogers? But, Nick, if you lie, if you. Well, Omar Khan told us. Oh, yeah, we don't think it'll drag out. like last time. Omar Khan told us right after the season. I don't remember when it was that he talked, but it was weeks ago,

because we then did a segment talking about how Aaron should let him know prior to the start of free agency. Then Aaron pops on McAfee and he's like, I'm not going to know before the start of free agency. Well, they also haven't floated anything to him. So I don't, so that's, I don't, I do not think that Pittsburgh Steelers should wait on Aaron

Rogers. and I think this is laughable. And of course it's happening again. And of course Aaron is, I'm not saying they're insincere flowers he's laying at the feet of Mike McCarthy, but he is making, you know, he is doing just enough, I think,

to make the Steelers stay interested in on the hook, but they don't have, how can the Steelers operate as a franchise going into free agency without knowing whether or not Aaron Rogers wants to play. I think it'd be challenging.

Right. And he's saying I don't know if I want to play. So I wouldn't wait. I would operate as if Aaron Rogers is retired. I think that is the responsible thing to do if you're Pittsburgh.

And if that means you have an offer out to Malik Willis, so be it. If that means you call up the Niners about Mac Jones, I know he might not be available, but so be it.

If that means you hit up Kyler Murray, So be it. I do not think you can operate as it was last year, which is wink and a nod, we know he's coming. I don't think you can do that. And I don't think it is,

I don't understand why Aaron would want them to. This is the part of Aaron Rogers. I just don't understand. Do you think him saying, because he said they have not offered me a contract, that that is him maybe wanting them to put forth off? because if they haven't offered him a contract, then they don't seem to be at least,

like why wouldn't they do that now? I don't, I don't know, but I also don't know how reliable of a narrator Aaron is. Like I don't, I think he is very, very cautious about not telling outright lies. So when he says they haven't offered me a contract, I believe it. Do I think what possibly the last time they spoke was,

it was left on, all right, Aaron, as soon as you know if you're planning on coming back, let us know. But we'll give you your time. And they say, okay, in which case the Steelers can't offer him a con. Like they're respecting the agreement of you let us know if you're going to come back. So that's why they wouldn't have offered him a contract. To me, that's a reasonable reading of it.

Well, look, they shouldn't want him anyway. I mean, they should call him and be like, look, thank you. It was great last year. you had a good season. Aaron Glenn style. We're going in a different direction. But even if, for the sake of the question and discussion, if they do want him,

they still shouldn't wait. Like you said, they have got to know before free agency if he wants to wait. At this point, with all due respect to his wonderful Hall of Fame career, he's not good enough to be waiting. If he comes back next year, at best, at best they'll be, at best they'll do exactly. what they did this past season. But we expect Baltimore to be better,

Cincinnati may be better. Like, and even going 10 and 7, 9 and 8, making the playoffs, losing in the wild card round for the 6th straight time, what's that due for this? All that does is delay the kind of rebuild under Mike McCarthy for another year.

So they shouldn't be interested at all, but they certainly should not let him hold them hostage, and now we can't go after Willis or Kyler or whoever they, might want to get. This is ridiculous. I don't know that Rogers is better than cousins. Cousins would be interesting.

I'll tell you that. And so like I just, it is surprising to me. It will be surprising to me if the Steelers sign up for this, but it maybe shouldn't be because it seems like Aaron thinks they have. Like I don't think Aaron wants to retire.

No. I think Aaron plans on playing. And I also think that it is on the board that while Aaron is the Steelers' first choice, the Steelers aren't necessarily Aaron's first choice, and that's why he's playing coy, so to speak. Again, I am, I, I, I, Minnesota should be his first choice. Well, that's what makes more sense, right? And so, and I want to be, I really, really do want to be fair here.

And I, I, obviously, I've not talked to Aaron. I don't have insight to that and I don't have intel with the Steelers organization. It is just baffling to me why his process is so much more

hard and in depth and just deep than every other football player alive. We are four years removed from the darkness retreat. Or is it four years? Two with the Jets, one with the Steelers. So, yeah,

and this is going to be. going into it. I four off seasons, three calendar years removed from the darkness retreat. Like I just, I everyone else seems to be able to get there. 90% retired. Three seasons to organization to go. An injury. A serious career threat. So I just so, it's just annoying, I guess. The Knicks had two shots to tie the game last night at the garden against the Thunder. Neither connected. OKC leaves with a victory and a very comfortable.

but teetering on arduous coat here's sGA good team um obviously a good offense um then they have really good defenders out there as well so they're well balanced they're obviously a top of the east for a reason they're a good team um playoff team but yeah they uh yeah really good roster I mean, what are we supposed to do there? What are we supposed to do? So let Brew talk about the Knicks. Go ahead, bro. What's the question?

Do you believe in New York more despite the lost? Since SGA, it was hard to make out behind the coach. He's a collar, but he was very complimentary, even though. You're asking me this because for some reason, people think I'm a Knicks' hater. Well, you never say anything nice about them. What? I covered the Knicks as a beat writer and enjoyed every moment of it. Well, that's more just a fact from decades ago.

Well, okay, let me say this to Nick's fans. Let me say this to Nick's fans. And Ramsey, I'm talking to you as well. Ramsey walking around with a smile on his face today. Yeah. Look. He was like finals preview. No moral victories.

No moral victories. You guys are a legitimate championship contender. You guys have more experience and age on you than the thunder do. It was at your house in Madison Square Garden. So you shouldn't be walking around all prowl like a peacock because you only lost by three. That's all I'm saying. No moral victories. All right.

Now, that said, I do think there were positives that you could take from last. This is not a moral victory. I'm just saying that you did some good things. This is not a moral victory. It's simply positive things from the law. Because they lost, is that mean everything was bad? No, they showed some stuff. What they?

Okay, should they feel some stuff? Should they feel good about the things that you saw? They should be able to sit in the film room with Coach Mike Brown and he should be able to point out some good things. He's like, hey, I like that our defense continues to play well. Yeah. They held OKC to 103 points. OKC averages 119. Some people would call that.

No, you're just saying, hey, we did some good things. You say on a day where we didn't shoot the three well, and the Knicks are great, one of the best three-point shooting teams in the league, 37%. They only shot 29%, I believe, from three. On a day, we couldn't hit the three, we had a chance to win. So we did some good things. things, fellas. Down 15, fought back. Fought back, got in it.

All right, so we did some good things. Here's the thing. I don't want to say this loud and clear. When I say the Knicks should win the East, I am not trolling. No. I am not trying to set them up so that two months from now, if they don't, I can

crush them. I'm saying it, Nick, because they should. On paper, they should. they should, right? I think the only, now, Boston with Tatum back, although he's not going to be the superstar Tatum, I think the only team contender in the East that has as much talent as the Knicks is Cleveland.

But they got, we know their issues, you know, hardening in the playoffs, you know, their team in general has had struggles in the playoffs. Detroit doesn't have as much talent, doesn't have the shooting. Boston, you got Tatum just coming back from a serious injury. So they lost. So they should win the East.

So they lost, but they should feel pretty good about it. They can take some positives from it. But they, no, because they're, they, they, I believe they're winners. And they feel like, no, we can be the, Nick, I believe they can win the East. And if they get to there, they can make some, making the tough series. Again, 20 minutes ago I said, I picked Celtics win the title. Yeah. the Knicks would be my second pick to come out of the east.

Like I have them right behind Boston, now that Boston's going to have Tatum back. So I, and I, I don't think they are quite to the level of OKC, but I think last night showed that over the last couple months, they have them. And I beat San Antonio and Houston. So I have an OKC related question if I can. Yeah. Because I don't know what the more objectionable moment

for SGA last night was. I don't know if it was the press conference and the scarf collar thing. That the coat's fine. Yeah, it's whatever that is around. I don't think it's detachable. I do think it's detachable.

Oh, really? The coat is, I like the coat. I don't know what that is next. I don't know if that, if I have a big problem with that or dust if we can show it or with this. Because I am I mean, so this, by the way, I mean, was foul. I can't call that.

That's the official. That's on the official. I mean, it's a little bit on SGA. You can't blame, but it's a little bit on the game. If I am running into traffic and 10 feet before a car comes jumping and falling on the ground and then they arrest the driver, yes, that's a little bit on the cops. I'm doing business. But it's also being done.

Do this in my homes with the little fake. I'm going out of bounds, no. Hold on. I'm going to get a yard. Yes, guys sell calls. SGA's stuff is he is of this stuff, public enemy number one and doesn't need to be. He's too good of a player. And so I...

That's bad. I mean, I agree. And I thought he had a charge early in the game. Should have been his third foul. Right, but that's just a miscall at least. That's not a flop. This is, I'm not trying to make the basket. All I'm trying to do is trick the ref.

I hate it so much. I don't hate him. I don't hate the team, but I hate that. I agree with that. Mike Brown says SGA does a great job of convincing referees he's getting hit. It does feel like the noise around this is getting loud. When do you think the referees finally listen to it or the league? Like, hey, keep on eye on the league.

Well, the league doesn't need to. I mean, it's on the refs. And they're making mistakes. I don't think SGA, you know, you remember when Jordan played or even the LeBron, like they've got such stature, even referees are human and you can get caught. SGA, as great as he is, hasn't, you know, he hasn't reached that where guys, Riffs are intimidated by him or anything like that. So I just think Mike Brown is somewhat correct in that he is able to sell these calls.

Now that was ridiculous. He did kind of get hit before. He didn't react right when he got hit on the wrist. He just reacted two seconds later. So they should, I mean, they just shouldn't fall for stuff like. In defense of the referees, they're probably like, wow, the league MVP just had a spasm. He must have gotten hit. as opposed to he's doing an acting class.

Janus back in action, two games, two losses. I also got a tech after the entire team watched Dyson Daniels get a tip-in rebound. Buck's now five games behind the Hawks for 10th. Here's Janus, post-game. Are we, you know, going to wave the white flag, or are we going to, you know, come together in the last 21 games and try to play hard and try to make a push here? And it started tonight.

I think Atlanta was the team, above us and a game like this comes for two. And I feel like we came out and we set the tone. But after that, we just fell flat. When you play for something and you're facing adversity, you figure out a way to buckle down and respond, you know. And I feel sometimes we don't do that. Career reaction.

Well, look, Janus is an all-time great player. He's a champion. he's loyal to this franchise, loves the fans, the franchise, all that. So he certainly has earned the right to say whatever he wants and be critical of his teammates or whatever. So he has that right. But I think one of the detriments to basically not making a decision, like holding the franchise and the players in limbo

is that sometimes when you say like some of the things, he's saying it can come off the wrong way. Like I don't, I don't think anybody in Milwaukee in that locker room, this is just my opinion, is trying to hear him question their effort, their heart, their desire. Because if you listen to the whole thing,

he's like, you know, we came out, but then we lose energy, we lose spirit, what are we playing for, things like that. I don't think anybody's trying to hear that when they're looking at it like, well, are you even committed to us?

like because when you with the story that you might leave it's an indictment on all the other players in that locker room but he's committed to him the rest of the year let me finish if you're there's if you leave Milwaukee and you say you won out

I'm in that locker room that's because you don't think I'm good enough yes well yeah you probably not they're not good enough but I'm just saying they're going to feel a certain way about that too bad spend more time in the gym well secondly

I'm just telling you I think what their mentality probably is. You miss half the season. You've missed 20, you've played 29 of the 61 games, 62 games. And you're questioning our heart and desire and things like that. So I just don't think it's the time to be saying, questioning that stuff. I really feel that. And I think, look, they were. And they're obviously not better without Yannis.

But they were eight and seven in the little stretch that he missed. Yeah, they're a plan. Tomato can. They're a tomato can. That's good point. I mean, like I said, he has the right. He's good enough to say. And I don't, I don't know that it's going to sit well in that locker.

I am not a franchise all-time great. I haven't won a championship for them. I haven't played with any of those guys. Hit your free throws, though. I'll question it. I'll just go ahead and say it. This was their biggest game of the season. this is the team they're chasing.

They are on a three-game losing streak. This was a game they absolutely had to have if they were going to have a chance to go up and stake this spot from Atlanta. And they got clocked by the Hawks. They lost by 18 in their building. So that's because they didn't give effort? Everybody except Yonis?

It's either that they, because Yonis was fine. Again, in limited minutes, he had 24, 5, and 4 on 75%, or 67%. Pardon me. He was not the problem. And so either the guys weren't all the way locked in or they're even worse than Yonison. They're a bad team. Well, so like, I don't. I just think that's different than questioning the heart, the effort.

Now, maybe that's the nice thing to say is they're good enough. Yeah, what do you want to hear? Turns out we're not good enough. Everyone really busted their tail out of here. They're just not good players. I'm going to something, brew, and I didn't listen to the whole thing. So this is a question, not a, gotcha. Was he questioning their heart or questioning their effort?

Because I think those are two different things. I think they're similar things. I think they can be similar, but you understand the distinction. Because he said we're good enough. He said we have the, you know, shooting. He said, we're not playing hard enough. We're not, yes. That's to me, because I think it's one thing to be like, you didn't try hard enough today and to say, you know, your heart wasn't it?

Or you don't have the heart. To me, one is more of an indictment. But I just, this was a game they had to have, KDAW. Yeah. And they didn't get it, and it wasn't close. They are teetering on the edge of not only the play-in, but something far more important to us. They are teetering on the edge as they try to go for the 10 spot. Our meeting is at 10.

And they are on the Hubbs line. Hubs is our executive producer. And he's going to see the next Bucks topic. I'm like, well, why don't we talk about the Bulls? Well, they don't have Janus. They've got one. Well, you know what they have, 25 wins and the Bucks have 26. They are closer in win percentage to the last place pacer's and nets who aren't trying

than they are to the calves who are just middle of the back. They're almost, it's an editorial retirement match. We're not talking about. The buck. We're talking about the bucks. They're almost done. Yannis should get out. They should move out.

They should move him to. But it's best for both. And they get to the 10. You know who it's 10 in the West? The Blazers. You know how many times I've mentioned the Blazers? Just then. You know who was 10 in the East until yesterday?

The Hornet's on fire. How dare you? I wrote down here. They lost out. The whole season count. Are the bucks good at anything? I'm just telling you. The buck's good at getting honest.

The tin seed is not the line of demarcation for us to talk about them. They've been the number one team since a random day in January. They've been the best team in the NBA since a random day in January. Coming up next to the Budlis and do I have more Hornet stuff? You better believe it. Welcome to Buzz City North. Next on first things first. Live from New York, the show it's getting prepared for the world baseball class.

classic. You're going on vacation again, which is very interesting. Not again. I haven't been on vacation yet. I have not been on vacation. I was meeting with executives. I was doing the podcast. I was like Drew would do. He was getting, you know, other businesses in line. I was doing a lot. I've earned a little time off. I wasn't hanging out. I wasn't hanging out. I wasn't hanging out. You guys, you know what? Full disclosure, America. Our dark week was predicated by your kids time off school. It didn't line up with my, me, so I've taken a different week. Got you. So you're going on vacation with your kids.

Second hour of first things. Second hour of first things first. Today. No. Must is tonight a must win for Luca and LeBron versus the Joker. We're going to have a little changing of the five and six seeds in the West Steaky big game. Lake has been good to get this one.

Yeah. Meanwhile, the Passquatch joins the Show Talk World Baseball Classic. He's playing for Italy. Some great stuff there. But right now, of course, you're in for some real motivation. Also, a time where we read some viewer mail. Christina out today. Hubs went to the post office and got today's mail.

You made him go in the rain? He volunteered. Wow. Good for him. He's a hard work. Oh, my God. He's doing great. A lot.

Well. Work hard, play hard. I used to say. Dear Wilds, love the show. Thanks. From my behalf of everyone, it's not just my thing, okay. Does Cowboy Brew only listen to country music

and Plack Boy Max? Well, that's a great question. Sincerely, Ryan and Brian. Well, Cowboy Brew is, of course, partial to cowboy music as when the cowboy hat comes on, you know, when in Rome. And Plac Boy Max is a friend of the family.

Friend of the family. But you also have a variety of interest. and Gianna wanted to see if you were interested in this song that she found via our Reddit page. Yes. So take a listen. So really? Sadly, Wilde, I'm not surprised. This is a real song?

It's on our Reddit. Listen. I can add musician to my resume? Yeah. I mean, certainly, I think so. Journalists. Actor? Yeah.

Now musician. This is great. Do we know who put this on Reddit? Yeah, but it's like, it's hard to say. You're afraid to say it? Polk operator, but. Polk operator? I don't know.

That's a hot young teenage producer. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I hear you. They let it go. It's still good. That's really good. I want to use.

All right, here we go. It's a star-studied bud list. Star studied all motivation. Nicola Yolkett. Oh. Number three. Now look, you are having a phenomenal year a week ago. A week ago tomorrow, you were number one on my MVP ballot.

Who's ballot? You are on the verge of becoming the first player ever to lead the NBA in rebounds per game and assists per game in a single season. you are on the verge of having the highest P.E.R for an individual season ever at 33.6, you'd be the first player ever to go 33 or above on P.R. So you're having a phenomenal year. There's no question about it. You are awesome.

Maybe too awesome to not win more. Okay? And this is why I say that. because the centers that you are now being compared to, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Will Chamberl and Bill Russell, Shaq, Shaq, Shaquille O'Neal, and Akeem O'Neal, look at you, you got three MVPs, you might have four after the end of this year, but look at how the titles. They have more titles, not only Wilton Akeem only had two,

but they even appeared in far more finals than you have. You've been to one finals and only one other conference championship. Yeah, conference finals. So look, I know it's a team game. I know you need help. And this year, particularly you got a lot of injuries. But you are 31, and I know that's not that old nowadays, but 31 years old, coming off, playing kind of with a knee injury.

You just came off. Wrist injury. There's talk about that bothering you. and the nuggets are just six and eight since you've been back from the knee injury. And so I'm just pushing like you want to get into that group, but I think it takes more winning to kind of comfortably be in that group. I think right now you're right there with Moses Malone,

who won three MVP's, one championship, but did go to two finals and three conference. Prince Finals. Can I just ask you this real quick, Drew? It feels to me like, and I don't know how much Joker cares about this at all, that wherever he is right now in people's all-time pantheon, he is at the ceiling he can be at until he wins another title. Yeah, I would agree.

Like that winning the MVP this year and next year does not, because right now, what he's butting up against is, Some people already have them ahead of Akeem. Fine, but whatever. It's like it's Shaq and it's Byrd and it's Kobe and that area. I don't think you can MVP your way there without at least one more. Kobe and Shaq got one MVP each. I mean, that's important, but more important is the championships as the number one guy.

So Joker, look, I do believe in you, no question, but we got to see a little more winning. All right. At number two, Kyler Murray. We go to football or maybe baseball. No. Oh, maybe. Look, Kyler, great. Classic.

Text or whatever, tweet, whatever it was to the Cardinals fans when you were released and even some of your teammates when you were released. All right. The line that stood out to me, I am sorry I failed us. Okay. And look, and I'm not trying to rip. You did fail. Number one draft pick, seven years in every.

Arizona one time making the playoffs. So it was a failed experience, all right? But you have to understand why you fail. Wherever you go next, I think what's going to help you succeed is understanding why you failed. It is not because of a for a lack of talent. No. I don't think, I think Nick and I disagree on this.

I don't think it's because of a lack of size. Because you have shown a root. first three years, rookie of the year, and then you made two pro bowls in your first three years. You've thrown for 270 yards a game. You've had a passer rating of 100 plus. You've had your TD the interception ratio hasn't been bad. But I think the reason that you did fail there was because, and the reports are all out there, lack of study habits, maybe a lack of work ethic, maybe some arrogance that rubbed some teammates and people the wrong way. And so wherever you go next, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Miami, the Jets, whoever and wherever it is,

those are the things I think you need to correct. If you can just humble yourself, learn from this experience, and obviously study, you know by now that's what it takes at this level and have a maybe an attitude adjustment in some ways. I think you can succeed. I don't think there's a question about that, at least in my mind. So, Kyler, I do believe in you. All right, at number one, the man of the hour, right?

Jason Tatum may return tomorrow, but certainly returning the reports are from Shams this season. And first of all, Jason, we're glad to have you back. Congratulations. It is a credit to your work ethic, your hard work, and your high character. that you are even can come back. Regardless of how well you play or whatever, those things are unquestionable

just for you setting foot on a court again this season. Now, a lot of athletes will tell you, most, if not all athletes say, when you return from an injury, it is as tough mentally as it is physically. And I would second that, but I say not even just mentally in the aspect of trusting your body, trusting yourself to do the things you used to do.

I would say mentally, in this case for you, is preparing yourself or even ignoring the noise that's going to be out there. There's already some noise out there that, oh, you could disrupt the chemistry or, you know, should you start or, you know, things like that. Yeah, whose team is it? Yeah, whose team is all of that noise?

Now look, the, and I'm not even saying, saying it like Nick, I don't think you're an example of this, but the expectations are raising with you coming back. Like now, fairly or not, people are expecting you to at least get to the finals with the Celtics

and if not win the championship. All right? And then I think if you guys go out in the second round like you did last year, then some people may blame you. So you got to understand. there's a lot of pressure and duress from the outside that's going to come with you returning. The safest thing would just be to not play this year at all and come back next year.

But you are taking a risk in many ways by coming back. So just be ready for the outside noise. Do what is best for you to play through it, whether that's ignoring it or whether that's just using it as motivation or what have you. you, but that will be out there. Don't let it stop you. Jason, I believe in you. All time story, if it comes to fruition. Oh, gosh.

Yeah, if they won the championship? That would be. It would be unbelievable. And it would be, there are very few instances of a guy, his caliber, you know, missing, having, coming back for his first game this late in the year and then they go on to win a championship. I mean, are there. I actually just read something about this. I wish I had written him down.

There are a few instances across all of sports. When did Jordan come back? Say it again? When did Jordan come back? He came back late. It was like 18 games of. Yeah, but they didn't win. No, I know.

That's what. Oh, we're talking about 18 games left. I'm talking about guys who have missed this much and winning. You've got a the, there, you've got a handful in the history of sports. But they've got a real shot at it. Time now for the sports media on Budsman. as I think of guys who came back late, right before the playoffs and won.

It's funny you guys mentioned Michael Jordan. Because he comes up in this one. For three feet? You gonna congratulate him? Well, yes, I would like to congratulate NASCAR owner Michael Jordan in 2311. Because many are saying him being on the most to lose list for the 8-2500 is what really, you know,

kick them into gear, no pun intended. But that's not where I'm going with this. And I also, before I even go, would like to say this. I know that at times I poke fun at Michael Jordan because somebody has to. He's a god amongst sports media, amongst sports bands, and he is obviously, arguably, the greatest basketball player of all time, and inarguably, one of the most iconic athletes of all time. All of that can stand on its own without needing to denigrate current athletes or kind of other athletes of his era, which brings me to today's sports media ombudsman and two of my favorite people in sports media.

Rich Paul and Max Kellerman and their latest, their new podcast game over. Rich, I've known, I kind of pseudo work with. Max, I kind of interned for on a radio state. 20 some years ago to ESPN Radio in New York City. I interned for Michael K's show. Max's show was on after. He was always so nice. And I think he is one of the sharpest people in sports media.

And one of the reasons I think he's so sharp is because not only because he argues a lot like I do, and it's really a compliment to myself, but because he usually takes every position to its furthest logical conclusion and kind of thinks about the rebuttals. I don't think he did that when he said, yes. yesterday or the day before, Michael Jordan would average a 40 point triple double in today's game. And you hear that occasionally. And I don't want to focus on the triple level part. I want to focus on the 40 point part because it's so outrageous. Because the impact, that, I know, Brew. I think he could. So. Not for a career.

Here's, but so here's why I find it ridiculous. You cannot apply that era inflation to, to only Michael, and you cannot apply that era deflation to none of today's players. Here's what I mean. Michael Jordan averaged 30 a game for his career. So for and 30, a lot of seasons. Are you saying for his career? I don't think for his career. Well, so just follow me on the for the first season.

I mean, for the first season, he averaged 37 once. So if you're saying one season as I don't think, but I don't think that's what Max was saying. Because I agree that the year he average 37. Yeah, if he averaged 37 and you average 40. But the 30 a game turning into 40 a game is a 33% premium, which if we apply then to other guys, like so Dominique Wilkins, if you played today, would be 36 a game because he was 27 a game for his career.

And what about the big time scorers today? Are we cutting their scoring by 33% if they played back in that era? So LeBron and Kevin Durant, who averaged 27 a game, they're not down to 18 a game, which is Jamal Mashburn. Well, no, obviously not. Carmelo Anthony, he's all of a sudden Hornets, Del Curry, he's 15 a game. I don't think anyone's. Yeah.

Right. That is my exact point. Of course nobody's saying that. But then it doesn't, then the argument falls apart. If what you're saying is that it is so much easier to score today than it was then. is? I do think it is easier to score today, but not enough to where you're going to go from a 30 point per game for your career to 40. I would be shocked if he's saying that for a career. Well, if the, if I think he's probably saying a few seasons. Like I think he could average 40 a few

seasons in today's. It is half of the, well, not half for him, but so many more of the shots he took would be worth three points versus two. He would be a much, because he'd be shooting more threes. He'd be a much, just like LeBron had he played in Jordan's era, would have been a better post player, because you had to. That could be a strength that he's never really utilized. Jordan would shoot more threes in adjusting to the type of game, and he would score more points just for that reason alone,

let alone is so much easier to get to the rim. They give you the mid-range shot. So I wasn't trying to, I wasn't, we don't have to spend a ton of time on this. I reject the notion that Michael Jordan was when the line wasn't moved in a bad three-point shooter because he didn't want to be good at it. He said he didn't want to be. I mean, you should believe it or not. I know he said it. He in the years the line was where it is now, he was 29%.

He shot for the era, you know, a little, but more, he shot more often than the average player. He shot 1,800 for his career, about 600 of those. were in the years when the life was moved in. I mean, like average per game. The, for his entire career, I don't, which is again, above average for the time. But that's what they didn't shoot it back then. I understand.

Even the great ones didn't shoot it. Right. But the, I am, I, I, I, it is common wisdom, conventional wisdom, that if Michael Jordan wanted to be good at three point shooting, he would have been. And my, I guess, controversial take is I think Michael Jordan wanted to be good at everything. And this was the one thing he just. wasn't good at. And the only years he was good at it was when the line

was. You really think if Michael Jordan played today, he would not have been a better three points shooter than backed in. No, no, no. I didn't say he wouldn't be incrementally better. But I do not think that a guy who played 15 years in this league only

shot a high number of threes when the line was moved in. And the other years, it shot 29% and I'm rounding up for his career, would not all of a sudden be a good three-point shooter. I don't think that. LeBron went from being a bad mid-range and three-point shooter

to being a good three-point shooter. Correct. He got better at it. Because he worked on it. Right. And I don't think Jordan really worked on the three. And I'm not even trying to make it a Jordan. LeBron. Like, I'm just saying the note, like I firmly, LeBron has never really

fully established himself as a great post player. Sure. I believe had he played in the 80s and 90s where that was more part of the game, he would have been killing people when he wanted two down. Just like Jordan and Kobe did. But I, so I'm just giving him that. Just like, I'm shocked, you think.

And I'm not saying Jordan would be like Steph Curry. I'm just saying I think he'd be a, would have been an adequate three-point shooter where it was a part of his game. The LeBron post-play thing, we have seen, we saw a season or two where he focused on it and was good, a good post-player. He's never done it in a time.

It was never high volume. I thought we don't have a single season of evidence at the regulation three point line where Jordan was good at it. So I don't think it was by choice. I think it's a choice that you don't work on it a lot. Okay. I mean, Alan Houston was a phenomenal three point shooter and shot less than five a game for his career. Right.

Like they didn't do that as much. But the argument against Jordan's three point shooting is not a lack of volume. It's the percentage. And so we can disagree on it. I just, I think that's saying, if Max was saying just for a year, so be it. Yeah, I can't. But I mean, if it's that easy to score in today's game, then what we're saying is Durant would struggle in the 90s.

And I don't buy that. Do you got 37, 38, 40-year-olds dropping 25 a game, 27 a game today? It's easier to score. You have to extend it out. It's like, all right, so a guy averaging five is. All right, world baseball classic. Aaron, Judge, Paul Skeens, Price, Harper, suit up for the stars. Stripes, Team USA takes on Brazil tomorrow at 8 Eastern only on Fox.

And joining us now, a member of the Royals, a captain of Team Italy is the Pascuatch. Vinny, is this your second or third time on the show? Maybe fifth time on the show? Well, no, he's hosted with us. He's been in the show. Seventh time on the show. Yeah. He's been de facto member of broadcast.

Welcome back to the show. And congratulations to being the captain of team Italy. What does the captaincy mean to you? It means trying to be some sort of rock for the lineup, basically, and let the other guys do their things. So we've got a lot of young guys on this team. I'm excited to watch them. We've been getting to know everybody the past few days,

and we've got some characters on this team that I'm excited for people to see. Vinny, most importantly, if Michael Jordan played today, how many points were able to be able to be? 35? Okay, there. You know what? for his career. I'll take it.

I'll take 35 of his best seasons. Probably a little harder today. I guess I have a question for you guys. And I think the audience is probably wondering this too. Like, Brew, when did you move to Pittsburgh and become a Pittsburgh fan? It's talking about O'Neill Cruz. You know I'm from Cleveland. What is that?

Which is right near. It's all the same. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Indianapolis is all the same. Louisiana. The Rust Belt, Midwest. I don't know. But, yeah, O'Neill. Cruz, look, I think the DR is stacked, Vinny.

They're going to be tough. And so, and Cruz, I like Cruz. Wiles tried to take him from me, making his guys. I like him as a rookie. When he's throwing the ball 100 miles an hour in the infield, then they... He's not going to play first base against, that's for sure. He hits the ball so hard. I think this is the year he takes a jump.

I do have another question, though, Vinny, because we introduce you as the Pascot. You got a lot of, I think, great nicknames. Italian breakfast. I don't know where they're going. Italian nightmare, Pasquatch. Which one do you like? Which one do you think is best?

Maybe it's Pasquatch, but. For the purposes of the next 10 days, either of the Italian ones I'll go with. But outside of these next 10 days, we'll stick with Pasquatch. Instead of it being about food. Italian breakfast. You don't want your entire thing to be about food.

and you are a bigger guy, you know, we'll stay away from that. So can you tell us about, for the audience that doesn't know, you know, kind of your journey to being on Team Italy and what it means to members of your family, most notably maybe your grandfather? Yeah, so I'll start with that. My grandfather, he now knows, but he thinks that we're in,

or he thought we were in Italy for this tournament. All offseason, that's all he would ask me about, is when are you playing for Italy? when are you going to Italy? When are you doing this? He's a Yankees fan first. He's an Italy fan second, and now he's a Royals fan third. So I'm curious to see how he does his outfit the next few days. It's normally a Yankee shirt, a Royals cap.

He'll probably have to get something Italian for this. But this playing for Team Italy came up in 2022 when I was a rookie. They approached me in August of that year, asking if I was interested. I said, you know, obviously it'd be an honor to play in this tournament, to play for this country. And we had to do some digging to make sure I was eligible. And we found out that I am. So we got all the records in place, everything to make sure that I was good to go. We got it.

And we were in the pool of chaos. We called it in 2023. And we advanced, got to go to Tokyo, face it Tony in the Tokyo dome, which was super special. So this tournament's one of a kind. And I'm honored to be representing the country of Italy for a sense. second time now. That's awesome. All right, Vinnie, just to dig in on some of your games, your pool B, Mexico, USA, Brazil, Great Britain,

you'll be familiar with some of the pitchers who are in the major leagues. Some of the guys I assume you haven't seen. How are you prepping? Because I know you're, you know, watching your at-bats and different scouting reports. How are you preparing for guys that you have either no tape of or have no experience with? Old school. Watch them and see what they throw in. warmups? Are they throwing four-scene fastballs? Or they throwing sinkers? What sign are they

given the catcher? So that's one of the interesting parts about this tournament is the lack of data you have on people. You get so used to having a ton of data on pitchers, even on hitters with our scouting reports we get on them. And you kind of go into this tournament with, you know, United States, you can get whatever you need on. Mexico pretty much the same. But then with Great Britain as well, but then, you know, especially a team like Brazil, it's a little bit tougher to get data on, which makes them, you know, kind of makes them sneaky tough there

is because you're trying to figure them out in a nine-in-in-s sample. It's a long sample-sized sport, and this tournament is the exact opposite of that. So it's a lot of fun to get out there and see what happens because you feel like you're a kid again where you're just going out there and playing, which is super fun. So when you're at bat, are you guessing?

Are you, is it like C-ball, hit ball, or you're, like, waiting for a spot? Yeah, it's more C ball, hitball, waiting for a spot a little bit, picking your spots. It's a little bit like spring training in that regard. You never know what guys are working on. So it's kind of nice that the tournament is in spring training because you're used to that mindset of the at-bat. So now they're just trying to get you out with more certainty than they are in spring training. If they see a hole, they're going to exploit it early.

The same thing from a hitter side. If you see something with a pitcher, this is where all the old school guys love this tournament because you have to be on the top step of the dugout and you have to be talking about the game the whole time to kind of what's the picture feel like when you're in the box. Anything like that, anything you might see. Not on screens. A new generation on screens. We love our screens.

We love getting on the iPad and seeing what the stance looks like and everything. But we've got some really good coaches. Francisco Sorelli's the manager. Jorge Posada's on staff and he's real big into talking. So talking about what's going on, different things like that. So it's an honor to play for these guys. I mean, the staff is incredible. the mustaches some of the coaches have are second.

It's about as stereotypically Italian as you could get with this team. So it's really cool. Well, speaking of talking, Aaron Judge went viral for his pre-tournament speech. I think you can top him. So can you give us a sample of yours? It's not a pump-up sport. I'll keep that in-house. We'll keep my hype speech in-house.

So I don't really know why that was filmed. than put out there, puts them in a tough spot there. But I prefer my clubhouse speeches to stay with the team. Also, do you have to do it in Italian? Like, are you like, is there a language barrier amongst the teammates? There is a little bit, but a lot of Europeans are better at us at a lot of things. And one of them is speaking multiple languages. So most guys speak Italian, Spanish, English.

But our flight last night to get here, I think we've got some video. that we're going to put out there, but we had some Italian music going and guys were singing it full blast. It was incredible. Yeah, when those videos, I mean, we wore suits, so it was a lot of Italians with the white, with the white, you know, tops with the buttons all the way down, blasting music. It's a, it was a good time. All right. I have a non-WBC question for you. Kind of tough season for your jets.

Kind of. And even worse, that I became a chief stand this year and they have the team. It could be. Well, what do you want the Jets to do with the second pick? I want them to somehow trade back to get another first next year. I don't know if it's even possible with the guys that, not that the guys aren't good in the top half of the draft, but I don't know if for linebackers or whatever you might get another first. I've got a galaxy brain idea for the Jets, but a lot of it involves job security for general manager

and coach, and I don't know if they have that. What is it? What's the Galaxy Brain idea? Basically push to 2027 and acquire as many first-round picks as humanly possible. And March for Arch, I think, is the headline. Yeah. So we'll see. Unless Kyler Murray decides he wants to throw the old football in New Jersey and find out what happens. Really?

So you will want Kyler? I mean, I think that's a possibility. I think it'd be exciting. He'd move around. I don't know if that turf would be friendly to him. Yeah. But I think that's more fun than Kirk Cousins. I don't think Kyler wants to go.

I would not go there if I'm Kyler, no offense. Me either. The Jets do have for next year's draft, their own first, the Colts first. The better of the two first between the Cowboys and Packers. So to Vinny's point, if they were to trade back and get another one, they'd get a four first, that'd be pretty good. It's not bad. All right, can I, are we still going on a World Baseball Club?

All right, so you're obviously rooting for your team. You have friends on Bobby Witts on the American team. You talked about how good the DR team was. Is there any other team that has your attention or might be a sleeper squad? I don't know. I haven't really looked around that much. I do know I got surrounded by the USA team this morning when I was trying to leave. That was intimidating.

I was the last one out. We had a press conference and I still had to go shower and they were just waiting for me outside. So got to talk to those guys a bit this morning. I'm trying to think. sleeper teams. I mean, Japan is somehow a sleeper, I feel like. Everybody's talking about the United States and Dominican with how good they are, and I feel like Japan's getting, Australia looked really good last night.

Maybe I'll go with Australia because of how good they looked. But other than that, I don't know. I haven't looked into it too much. I have a terrible. That's a terrible answer. That's all right. How's Jack looked? If people don't know Royals' great young prospect, Jack, I'm going to miss.

I always call them Kagalianoni, but I don't think this. That's how the Italians say. Exactly. I told me. These people said I couldn't do it, but I said I'm half Italian. I can do it. He's a Royals teammate and also on Team Italy. How's he looked? He looks amazing. He makes me feel less of a man every time he hits a ball because he hits it so hard. So I question my own abilities when he's hitting. Okay. Yeah, so to me, he looks really good. And I think he's going to have a phenomenal season.

I think he could be one of the best players in the game if everything goes right for him. and he's got the mindset for it. So he's got to just keep working hard. We've got a few young guys in Kansas City that I think are going to pop this year. But they just got to keep their head down and keep working. And hopefully it'll click for him. You guys playing in Houston. So what do you expect the atmosphere to be like there?

And from your past experience in WBC, is it any different than how different is it from a major league game? Like the crowd, the atmosphere, all of that. So our first two games against Brazil and Great Britain, there'll be okay crowds it won't be i mean USA it'll sell out every night Mexico it'll pretty much sell out every night those games are going to be crazy those those first two games for us specifically it won't be crazy crowds but it will feel like a major league it'll it'll feel like a playoff game I mean that's what these

games feel like because every every pitch matter so much the the focus is there the coolest part about the tournament is you score running the whole team kind of leaves the dugout in excitement which I which I think's fun so it's more like a college atmosphere in that way but These games are intense. I mean, every pitch means everything. And teams are short on pitching for this tournament just because, you know, the teams that pay you are a little bit tighter with how you get to get used in this tournament. So, you know, games can get long because you've got to go to different bullpen arms.

And if somebody doesn't have it that night, you might see a few walks, whatever it is. But, I mean, these games are so important just because anything could happen. Run differential matters. So everything matters in this tournament in such a short sample. And, you know, like I said, it's not a short sample sport, so crazy things can happen. Short on pitching and run differential mattering is a record. In 2023, we played the Netherlands in the final game in the tournament, and we knew we had to score more than six runs, but couldn't give up more than four, but also had to win by like five. It was just to advance.

It was crazy. You start blasting the team. They put a poor position player in there. Like, no, we're not letting up. All right, Vinnie, well, thank you very much. Best of luck, World Baseball Classic. We'll have you on before opening day maybe. Yeah, absolutely.

And we might, listen, we might be going to Kansas City at some point. Yeah, World Cup. Very welcome. You're very welcome in Kansas. And they move the fences. We didn't talk about moving. Oh, yeah, we didn't talk about you. He's going to have 40 bombs.

Yeah. Yeah. Get more fans into the stadium. Right there on top. Well, we need more room. We need more room so we can get more fans. Sold out. Exactly right.

I agree. I'll be there in the outfield by the fountains. I'm always like that. All right. Vinny, thank you very much. Best luck. See you. Thank you, Will.

Thanks guys. More first things first. Tomorrow, it's the tastiest segment in all of sports is title pie. We need the pie dust. It's just a lonely. KW. We need something. KW.

We might not need the pie. We need something. And then demand some work. It didn't work. Hey, you got to break a few eggs to make a pie. Oh, so you're going to do. Also, bruise MVP ballot.

And right now, it's, who's doing title by tomorrow? No, he's here tomorrow. Are you not here? gone again. I think Danny's doing it. Oh. Yeah. Take it a day. You need a pie. Take of the day.

This is excited. Second take of the day. Jason Tatum might make his debut against the Mavericks. We discussed it earlier in the show. I know what it is. And it delivered the take of the day. That's why I need it.

I am picking the Boston Celtics. He was thinking picking the championship. It is a phenomenal take, deserving of take of the day. Thank you. And I'm shocked that you said it. I, I, you know what, America is slowly, slower than I would like learning about me? I'm just the most unbiased, fairest guy on TV.

Just call it like I see it. Well, you know what, Brew's probably the fairest guy on TV, but other than Brew, I'll take it. I have, I didn't believe in the Celtics, you know why? Because I didn't believe in the Celtics. I do believe in the Celtics. You know why? Because now I do believe in the Celtics. Similar with my journey with the Bills.

I have nothing specifically against Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown. I was wrong about them enough that I maybe learn my lesson, so to speak. My argument would be, and I don't like to make anti-New England arguments, that the New York Knicks beat the Boston Celtics with a full strength Jason Taylor. Yes. And they are not a better team than they were last year. If Jason Tatum comes back and I think it's fair to say he averages, 17, I think everybody would be thrilled. And my-

I think it'll be at least 17 again. Once he gets playing. But the Knicks easily beat the Celtics. When that was happening and right after, you in that moment thought the whole thing was a fluke. And now. Turns out it wasn't. Turns out the Knicks are pretty good. Jason Tatum got hurt.

First thing's first overtime. Next. Live from New York, it's a show that's working every day and now going into overtime. First thing first, overtime. I did not make this bar. I did not make this bar. I did not make this bar. at all. But Caleb did lose a wide receiver, DJ Moore, but did the Bears win?

Yeah, stay tuned. Stay tuned. Meanwhile, the Chiefs lost Trent McDuffie. Yeah. Was that okay? Are they in a better spot like the new Patriots? Is Mahomes in trouble? I didn't say that. Let's put that on the bottom line. McDuffie doesn't play office. He's a teammate. He doesn't team. He doesn't. He doesn't. It's a commoner. Yeah, he did say darn. And finally, SGA's coat. Is it growing on you? No. I think that should have been the...

Growing on you is pretty... SGA's coat. Growing on you. Choice of words. The other is what I have with it just quickly, Danny. Chris Broussard, Kevin Wilde. Talk to me for all your fashion questions. Go ahead.

It's been brutally cold this winter. Yeah. But yesterday it was like 45. He packed that thing for the road trip. In fairness, right. He didn't know it was going to be nicer. It was fine. It's not windbreaker weather.

but like a light jacket, you know? You know, that's a great point. But when he packed that, he was thinking it's going to be $20. And the amount, it needs its own thing, you know? So do you think he picks that up in New York, or do you think he put that in, like, checks luggage? Well, you don't, I have no idea. That's a great question.

He probably, he may have had his scent to him. Yeah. To his hotel. I bet he's in his hotel. Also, that's a bad question. Again, I like the coat. I just don't like the neck brace. Sit in court sides like too much, man.

Yeah. There we go. You're doing too much. All right, check in on the Chicago Bears. Last pass of the year wasn't great Caleb to DJ Moore, but there were some excellent highlights. Call it like it was a pick. Well, I know.

Nick and Danny both hate picks at the end of games. Except what Caleb does. When Caleb does it. Oh, yeah, they took it easy. Someone else's fault. All right. They praised it. Caleb this season when targeting DJ Moore, Danny,

second in completions, third and pass. passing yards first and touchdown six pass radio 102 it's his third best we've nothing to shake stick at but now he's in buffalo what's this mean for your guy Caleb I think this day the season ended I said I expected DJ Moore to be done with the Bears so I think Caleb clearly more plugged in than I am he's been expecting this this was pretty telegraphed based on yes some of it it was relationship based but I think that was really overblown I think that was really overblown I I think it's young quarterback coming into the league, two systems in two years. He gets drafted with his friend, Roma Dunzee, so they have the better chemistry at the beginning.

And then Ben Johnson comes in. They draft Burden and Loveland. Those guys, like Loveland is Ben Johnson's first pick. So he's a focal point early. And DJ Moore just for whatever. Still good, still talented, still tough, still had big moments. But he got a little lost in the shuffle in terms of chemistry with Caleb. And this was about a reallocation of resources because, honestly, if they're like, maybe the first time in my life, the Bears can lose a good skill position player.

And I'm like, that's okay. They're one of two teams in the league that had four guys catch over 600 yards last year. And the other three, Loveland, Burden, and Adunze, are all first or second year players. They're basically the same age as Caleb. but they have huge holes elsewhere on the team, center, defensive tackle, maybe linebacker, certainly the end. But this trade, and we'll show what they all of a sudden have, and some of this is, you know, you did not want Drew Dalman to retire,

we hope he's okay, but it did free up some cap space. They're now a middle-of-the-packed team in cap-space, expected to get more when they move on from Tremaine Edmonds, and they've got four picks in the top 90 of this draft. So if I'm Caleb, I turn on the alerts on my phone, And I get ready to see what's next. Like, they're going to be wheeling and dealing, both with the free agency and with the draft in 50 days.

This team is not. App space 17 million doesn't really raise my eyebrows. I get it, but I'm saying it's middle of the pack, and Tremaine Edmonds is about to move or get restructured. Like that number's only going up. So they do have a lot. I think it's like 16th in the league. Correct.

So I know that doesn't sound like a ton, but there's a lot of teams that are. Their cap space right now is like they just got cap compliant. They have like 400 grand. There's a handful of teams that have huge money, but then it's more like that. And this move, part of it is the second round pick, and part of it is now they have caps space. Today they can be a lot more aggressive in free agency on Monday than they were before this trade. So you said four picks in the top 90.

You have picks 25 and 57 are your own. Pick 60 you got from the bills. Would you trade those three picks for Max Crosby? A first and two late seconds for Max Crosby and then use free agency to try to either sign Linderbom or address your offensive line elsewhere. Like that to me is would I trade a first, a second, and DJ Moore for Max Crosby

that feels like probably whether you do it or not about what the price is going to be, right? That it's going to be something like that. Yes. Is that business you think they should do? I no longer think they're going to. Like Bill Barnwell put it at DJ Moore in a first. Now maybe the McDuffie thing drove it up.

So that feels a little rich for what it is. Most of the reporting seems to think that the bears are actually not now the number one suitor for Crosby. I think that is maybe tied to the Dahlman retirement because it's another premium position. it's needed. But trust me, like if the Bears traded for Max Crosby, he's a top 10 player at that position, at their biggest position to need, I'd be on here celebrating. You know what I mean? I would absolutely celebrate the trade, but I do not, I no longer think Max Crosby is going to be a bear. Well, look, there's no, not much controversy here. I agree. I don't, I think DJ Moore is very good, but I don't think Caleb will miss him at all,

assuming that Adunze and burden are healthy. And, you know, obviously Loveland as a tight end. Like, I think their offense will be fine. If they could get Crosby, I mean, I would certainly try to do that if I'm them. And like you said, maybe you can use your money on Linderbomb. Like, I mean, this was a great, I think this was a great move. We'll get to the bills. But great move for both teams.

So they couldn't have done this because he has, like the $24 million this is freeing up was guaranteed. it only moves off your books if you trade them, not if you cut him. But I want to, as far as how much I support this move for the Bears, if that was non-guaranteed money, I think it would have been good for the Bears to flat cut DJ more to free up that money, even if they got nothing in return just because where he is in the pecking order on the team and the other needs. Like to the point you're making.

The reallocation of resources. Right. I think he would go into next season as, their fourth option passing the ball. I think it'll be Loveland first, and then we'll see who emerges as the one between Adunzei and Burden. But I do think it matters that Ben Johnson drafted Burden

and that a Doonese was a top 10 pick that clearly they think, you know, has room to grow. So I, and it did feel to me, I'm not sitting here saying they wouldn't have made this trade if the last pass of the season wasn't a miscommunication between Caleb and DJ more than any of their stuff. But I think it's fair that you're saying, Danny, the relationship issues were overblown. But I don't think it's overblown to say for some reason, DJ Moore and Caleb never really jelled and got on the same page on the field the way I think a lot of us thought or hoped they would.

Yeah, and that's what I was alluding to, like the fit between them. Like I know that Caleb and Adunze, like they worked out for the drafts together. Yeah. And then they got drafted to the same team. They work out together in the off season. they had chemistry immediately. Then a new offense comes in, and they really did a lot to get Loveland up to speed because it was Ben Johnson's first pick.

So kind of Loveland jumped DJ Moore. Burden was hurt last year in training camp, but then he came on so strong at the end that he just, for whatever reason, he was never Caleb's number one guy. And I think those things that I just said were the biggest reason. Well, and he probably wouldn't have been happy, understandably. Like, you know, as the fourth option, he's still. I think in his prime, less than 30 years old, like, he probably wouldn't have been happy. When he got the, when he had the game winner against Green Bay in the regular season, he got the game ball at the end.

Like, he's like, it's about time. And that was late in the year. Like, DJ Moore was just really frustrated with his role in the offense. He didn't dislike Caleb. He just thought he shouldn't gotten the ball more. All right. Well, it might be a win-win. We'll go to Buffalo where Josh Allen's got a new coach and a new number one.

DJ Moore headed to Buffalo along with the 2026. fifth round pick from the Bears. So here were DJ Moore's numbers. Again, no Bill's wide receiver had more than four touchdowns in 2025. These are okay numbers. They're also the lowest of DJ Moore's career. His best year was with Joe Brady, now the Bill's head coach in Carolina, 1,200 yards, 18.1 yards per catch.

So, Danny, again, how much better did this make the Bills and Josh Allen? Significantly. I mean, for Josh Allen, it's obviously his best receiver. versus since Stefan Diggs, which is a little bit damning with faint praise, but still,

Khalil Shakir's been their leader, like you mentioned, the last two years with last year, barely, last year, just over 700 yards, two years ago,

just over 800 yards. And DJ Moore has four seasons in his career where he's had at least 1,100 yards. The principal quarterback in those four seasons are Justin Fields,

Kyle Allen, Teddy Bridgewater, and Carolina's version of Sam Darnold. So, like, if he is the number one, option in a high volume passing attack because he was not the number one option for the bears in in Ben Johnson's offense for the reasons we just talked about. But assuming he goes back to that in

Buffalo and it's with Josh Allen. I mean, he's three years younger than Stefan Diggs in the same age as AJ Brown. It's very, it's on the board that DJ Moore is a top 10 receiver in football for Buffalo next year. That's absolutely in play. No, I love it for the bills. And I think, look, A.J. Brown I would have saluted that. But, you know, the possibility of distractions comes along with A.J. Brown. Mike Evans, I would have been fine with that. Much older. But his age, yes.

Is he still even in his prime? Is he still a number one guy? Those are legitimate questions. None of that I don't think exists with DJ Moore. Like, we know he can produce. I still think he's in his prime. He's going to be 29 years old next season. The money is not.

He's locked up for it. until 2029. The money's like $24 million a year. And I think he will be a very good number one for them. I'm not, I think it's comparable. They're different types of players, but like an Amari Cooper,

you know, when he went to Dallas or something like that. Oh, when he went to Dallas. Yeah, like, no, not now, but like that type of level of,

you know, you're not getting Justin Jefferson or anything like that, but you're getting a legit number one guy that can help you and be productive. I think that all makes sense. and I think the bills it was incumbent upon Brandon Bean

to and he by the way should call what was that radio show Jimmy and Joe the show on WGR yeah that he called remember he called him and yelled him

because they were like we led the league in points why do I hear receivers so he should have called them and been like sorry fellas you guys were right and then incumbent on him to do something in this position

before free agency opens or else you're just a little over a barrel when it comes to, are we going to have to overpay for Alec Pierce? Are we going to, you know, make a desperation overpaid trade for Brian Thomas Jr.? Like, where teams can real, teams or agents can really hold you in negotiation because you can't then be like, all right, we have the 26th pick of the draft. We'll just hope that a receiver that we believe can step in as a number one as a rookie

is going to be there. But what I will say is, like, I have a bill's concern and a DJ Moore concern. The bill's concern is just, when you have not broken through and you are trying, you know, through fighting and clawing, it really hurts to miss on Keon Coleman.

I'm not sure they've missed. Well, they are. They are. I mean, they're short. So far. I mean, the same Joe Brady said, said me becoming the head coach is the best thing that could happen at Keon Coleman. Maybe it was damage control.

But we've seen guys sort of not pop their rookie year and then. But this was his rookie year and his sophomore year. Year three wise to see? So, but I mean, I think that they, I mean, if we just did where DJ Moore would have been in the bear's pecking order, Keon right now, as far as past catchers, is number six on the bill's pecking. order. And so, like, I think that I just think cut them. I think teams would take a flyer on it.

So maybe so. They definitely would. Oh, I'm not saying that. I don't think there, that he, this means he's done there or anything like that. I don't think it means he's done as a player. But I think that the idea that the bills are going to, in five years, be like, that was a good pick.

I think that's done. He's not going to have the opportunity. The problem is if Keon Coleman drops his first ball, it's just a disaster. Or if he oversleaps one more meeting. Like those... Well, you can't do that anymore. And but then the other...

The other thing I just want to say to the group real quick, just throw it out there. I... It is at least typically for receivers. If it's like, hey, the production was here and then it went here, and then it went here. We would say, oh,

you know what I mean? They're on the downside. Nobody seems to be saying that about DJ Moore. He was 1,300 yards, his first year in Chicago with Justin Field, He was, what, 800 Caleb's rookie year and 600 last year, and nobody is even a little concerned. Part of that is, for some reason, you know what I mean? He peaked early and instantly and that he's not the same player. Like, that would be, I'm not even saying I believe that, but I'm saying it's a,

I think it's a valid at least small concern when you're seeing the production drop like that in his late 20s. That's all I would say. I just think he's going to get a lot higher volume this year from. really talented quarterback. 50 catches on 85 targets, though, is not, you'd like a little higher catch percent job? Yeah. How are the balls?

From Caleb? Yeah. Awesome. Right on target? Right in the numbers? Check it on Cowboys. Jerry Jones said he was going to break the budget in free agency, and it was music to Dax's ears.

Take a listen. We got a coach in the second year. We know we've had some ups and downs and shined some good moments last year, and this This is the year that you make a big jump and getting big time players who can help immediately as a key part of that. Danny, I'm going to take a quick sidebar. We don't get a ton of like quarterback press conferences in the off season. And DAC every year we see stuff and is always at like a charity event. He just does like such an amazing job.

Before we dive in on the Cowboys, like shout out to Dak Prescott to always being available and just being a great guy. Absolutely. He gets it from his owner. buying cowboys making a big jump. So as a team maybe, but like I want to react to the Jerry part of it first because like it's such a low bar to clear where Jerry's like I'm going to spend more than I've spent. They haven't been a top 10 spender in free agency since 2012. They have not given out a $50 million contract in free agency since Nick's buddy Brandon Carr in 2012. I broke that story.

The radio in Kansas City. Heck yeah, dude. But think about it, you're doing radio in Kansas City the last time the Dallas Cowboys gave out a $50 million free agent contract. In free agency, right. I mean, the highest AAV guy last year was Dante Fowler, $6 million. The year before that, it's $4 million. So for Jerry to spend big, it doesn't have to be anything really significant.

Having said that, if they hit up. on the 12th and 20th pick of the draft and Jerry actually does what he's saying and they sign Trey Hendrickson or trade for Max Crosby. Yeah, of course they can take a huge job. Yeah. They do have a great offense. Their coach looks good and they do have a lot of ammo this off season to add. So like say they had the draft that the Rams had a couple years ago when they hit on Jared

verse and Brandon Fisk with their first two picks. And the year before their Rams hit on some guys. Right. just remade their defensive line in one off season? Like, if they do that, now that is a huge. And they draft well, though. They're a good draft. Right.

And now, listen, that's a huge if to apply that amazing Rams draft to this team and say that. But like, they do have the ammo to do it if Jerry actually lives up to what he's saying. Well, here's it. First of all, Dak, you're right, great guy. But I feel like, I feel like Dax says a version of that every year. You know, he's optimistic. He's always going into the season.

optimistic. So that's number one. And number two, even if they take the jump, what are we talking about? You know what? They'll get back to where they were a few years ago with Mike McCarthy. Wouldn't that be great? Yeah. I mean, that's what we're talking about.

12 wins every year. Yeah. I think they could definitely do that. But that's not what they need to do. They need to go further than that. And I, look, I guess it would be a possibility because I could see them being all these years they failed. I didn't necessarily think they had no shot at getting out of the NFC,

but they just can't seem to get it done. Listen, I think that they, with the right off season, they could be the best team in that division. Part of that is my own skepticism about what Philly's going to be. But before we had the DJ Moore News in the show, which kind of changed our rundown, there was a, we were going to do, there was a topic that involved the Super Bowl odds,

and we had the list of the tops in Super Bowl odds. I don't know if we saw that graphic. If we do, we could throw it up. If not, the reason I mentioned it is. So that's why. By bad. No, no, you're fine. The Super Bowl odds at this time of year, perfect.

It's kind of a quarterback test, plus the defending champ of Seahawks. It's like, who are the best quarterbacks in the league? They have good Super Bowl odds. To have a quarterback as good as deck and to have the 18th best odds means Vegas. I think correctly has clocked your defense as an abomination. Because what's the only, what's the great quarterback whose team is not listed there? There you go. And why?

Because the defense is an abomination. And so in order for them to make a big jump, Danny's right. They have to draft, they need an entirely new secondary almost. They also need at least one edge rusher. They also need a couple, they need everything on defense except for Quinn and Williams spots, over Sean's spot. Yeah, they have one safety. And so they need to, Earmuffs Wilds, sign Trey Hendrickson and draft defense at 12 and draft

defense at 20 and have them be impactful. Because I agree with Danny's overall point historically and bruise as well. The Cowboys offense with Dak Prescott Humps. You know what I mean? playoff struggles set that aside. That offense clicks and scores points. But when you have CD coming back, in theory pickens coming back, they re-signed Giovante, offensive line's fine, and nobody thinks you're in a brutal division.

The Giants are where they are. Washington's a little question and Phillies at least wobbly a little bit. And at the 18th best odds, it means the defense is what. Vegas thinks they had the worst events in the league last year, which they did, that they might have that again. And that's the only way to make the jump. It won't be about death. Defense wins championships.

What he's trying to. It took a long time. Great job putting the Super Bowl odds. That was good, Hobbs. You're on your A game. Quick episode of Frenemememones. Why is it quick? Why is it quick?

Because you were going on vacation. My flights sounds like us. Happy Frenemememememones Thursday. here on the O T. It's been a while since we've done this. That's true. A couple dark weeks and now you're going on vacation again. You deserve it. Nick, I'm in this seat. It just felt appropriate. All right, so your Chiefs trade away Trent McDuffie to the Rams.

You're of course happy with the picks and the return and all things Chiefs. But if we take a look at the Super Bowl odds, post-trade, the Rams have become the favorite. So obviously the odds makers liking the addition for Les Need, Sean McVeigh, Matt Stafford, and the Rams. Rams, does the fact that the Rams are the Super Bowl favorites after the McDuffie trade at all change your opinion on losing McDuffie? No, listen, because I think this was a definitive win for the Rams. Like, it does not mean it was a loss for the Chiefs, even though losing McDuffie is a loss. It doesn't mean they lost. They're worse today.

Right, but I also, I want to make this part very clear. I think the Rams might be the only team in the league. that could give up what they gave up for McDuffie, and I would support it. Giving up the 29th pick, a third, a fifth, and a sixth, and the reporting of they're going to make him the highest paid corner in the football. If any other team did it, I might call it irresponsible. The Rams are unique for two reasons.

One is they're the only team that has a legitimate chance to win the Super Bowl with a really old quarterback. So the window is... 38-year-old Stafford pieces. It's the end of Breeze in New Orleans or like where you should definitely go all in. And the other one is the only thing the Rams seem as an organization to do poorly

is draft secondary pieces. All they do is trade for him. They traded for Marcus Peters with the Chiefs. They traded for my gosh. The best. Jalen Ramsey with the Jags and now they traded for Trent McDuffie. That's the one spot they haven't been able to get So for both of those reasons, I support it for the Rams.

But I think the Chiefs got a 120 cents on the dollar. I think they got such a good return. And the Chiefs are the opposite of the Rams when it comes to drafting and developing corners. Jalen Watson was the same draft class as McDuffie's seventh round pick. He started alongside him the whole time. They do really, really good at drafting and developing that position. So I actually think all of that is fair. the piece on the chief side,

I think McDuffie is really good. And I think the reporting is also that the Rams intend and believe that he can play more outside. That he is not just a nickel corner, not that just nickel is a bad thing because it's a super valuable position. And so I just, losing a premium player at a premium position

that one of the best organizations in football deems is worth that cost, even if you also are a premium organization or the premium GM, it would give me pause. And when you're talking about, you know, I was just looking at like your top cap hits for next year. Chris Jones at 44 million.

That's high. Mahomes 2, Trey Smith 3. You like all those guys. Nick Bolton, Jalen Moore, Creed Humphrey, Carloftus, Fulton, obviously Creed Humphrey is excellent. I feel like you'd like to have Trent McDuffie's name in there

instead of a couple of other of these guys. Well, but so two things. One is, so right now, last offseason, sign Bolton and Carloptus. One year in, those contracts don't look great. I think Carlophtas had a down year. Bolton seems

to be a guy that Spaggs says we have to have. I don't see it quite the way he does, but he gives him the benefit of the doubt. I don't know that I agree with you this is a premium

position. So I think that corner in a past NFL? So let me do it like this. Positions that I find more premium than corner. Quarterback. Yeah. Pass rusher. So edge rusher. Sure. So edge rusher two. So edge rusher two. Left tackle three. Wide receiver four, D tackle five. Oh, okay. And I mean, but by the way, the money supports me on that. The franchise tag value. But there's also, yeah. And so I, I don't think it's, you know, safety or guard or off-ball. linebacker, but I think

Corner is kind of the mesh point between the premium positions and the non-premium positions. And I just think it would be, I didn't want to pay Trent McDuffie $30 million a year. And these are the tough decisions you

have to make. Now, if you're saying do it all over again and take away your three worst contracts on the team and give that to McDuffey, sure. But I don't think that you can necessarily, you know, Time travel doesn't exist. Figure that out. Yeah, I understand time travel doesn't exist,

and you have three or four corners on the field at once, and there's only 32 left tackles in the league, which goes to the franchise tag thing. I just think McDuffie's a really good player. And I want to say this to be very clear before we move on. The first nine playoff games, Trent McDuffie played with the Chiefs, they won. The Super Bowl against the Rams, against the Niners,

he had the quarterback pressure that helped get them off the field to win that game. I think he is an awesome player and he's young. He's 25. And you draft and develop it. It's hard to think of the guy. Right. And so I am not all of a sudden going to be like, I don't think he's overrated. I think he's properly rated. I think he's the best slot corner in the league. And we'll see what he is as an outside. I think there's the tough decisions you have to make if you want to have a 15-year period of contention. All right. Let's talk about the biggest story in the NBA here. Jason Tatum hasn't played since rupturing his Achilles, but it was only back in May. 10 months ago.

Reports are, Tatum will play this season, could debut tomorrow night when they're hosting the Mavs in Boston. All right, Celtics are currently second in the east. Everyone saw your award-winning take of the day. So I guess, of course, they're the favorite in the East. Make your case because you have them winning the whole thing. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that they are clearly now

the team to beat in the East. And so I'll start there. And I would stack it very differently than you. Yeah. Celtics with Tatum 1, the New York Knicks 2, the Detroit Pistons 3, and the Cleveland Cavaliers 4 is how I would stack it. I think Boston, the way to look at it for me that I think is easier for people to kind of wrap their minds around would be if Boston at the trade deadline had added the 27th best player in the league,

and gave up nothing, given where they were. They traded for Booch. Yeah, but a better player than that. If Boston at the deadline, I'm trying to think of a guy, his style, had added, you know, kind of peak DeMardozen. Okay. Or slightly post-peaked Demar de Rosen.

What would that do for them? Because that's how I look at this. I don't look at this as they are adding peak Jason Tatum. I look at it as they're adding a. six nine guy with a ton of huge game experience who is going to score the ball for you at least at a better clip than Hauser and Shireman were. Yep. And not disrupt the rotation.

And that to me with the fact that they simply have hacked the math better than anybody else is enough to put them certainly over the top in the Eastern Cup. So listen, there's 20 games left. You obviously have to roll the dice because he was a first team all NBA guy. He is an amazing two-way player when healthy. You can't say no to him. He had the Achilles surgery within 18 hours of rupturing, and he's done everything possible to come back.

He's emulating Kobe. He ruptured it earlier that guys should be rupturing their Achilles because of the style of play. You have to reward it and you have to applaud it. Let me just ask some questions here. Sure. They have been an incredible defensive team this year, sixth and defensive rating.

Any concern adding Tatum off of an Achilles weakens their defense because he is not as spry of an athlete. I would say yes to that. So here's why I, this is, and I'll be quick. The reason my answer is no is, Jalen Brown is still going to play the same number of minutes he's playing. Derek White's still going to play the same number of minutes he's playing. I don't think Jason Tatum is going to be taking minutes

from some of their best individual defenders. And I think because of his size alone, he's not going to be a negative defender at all. Okay, and then I'll give you this one. Jason Tatum has led them in shot attempts. Yep. Six straight years. Right now, and I was reading this, I think it was Ramona Shelburne,

Jalen Brown is second in the NBA in usage rate. Luca won Jalen Brown 2. Do you think we're about to see, because I do, like, I've seen Jason Tatum be passive at times. Yep. Are we going to just see like a catch-and-shoot version of Tatum? Or is he going to lead them in shot by the playoffs? No, I don't.

Because that is a weird dynamic to lower Brown's usage to try to get this guy up to speed. I think we're going to see a different Tatum. I think, oh, I think we definitely will see a different Tatum certainly early, and then we'll see how he looks. I, what I have been saying is he now has, in my opinion, two months, not to get back to being vintage Tatum, but up to full speed where he can be this year, which call that 80%.

Because I think the Celtics can basically be in cruise control from now until the start of round two. They are not, they are going to be the two or the three seed. They are going to play either the Knicks or the calves in round two. And that will be a real series. And that's when they are going to need not all-MBA first team Jason Tatum, but could they get fringe All-Star Jason Tatum? And that should be enough. And if not, luckily if in round two they're playing your calves,

just have to roll the ball over to Harden and be like, just let dribble the shot clock. Cavs are still the favorite. I'll explain why on title pie tomorrow. Wow. Enjoy the favorite in the east. Enjoy Japan, buddy. Thank you, buddy. Bring me back from Kobe beef.

I don't think that's how it works. That's not. It would probably get me arrested because it's not allowed. Cool. Good talk. See, okay. Hanging out with Willie Colon on the OT. So my bears are reportedly can't be official to the league year opens, trading DJ Moore to the

Bills, more second on the team in targets, receptions, yards, tied for first. with six receiving touchdowns last year. So Caleb loses, at least his highest paid wideout, if not his favorite target. That's open for debate. Josh Allen gets a clear cut new number one. So Willie, does the loss for Caleb or the gain for Josh? Who does it impact me?

Oh, it's 100% a game for Josh Allen. First of all, I love the fit. I don't know how you feel about it, but this is Buffalo putting a grown man at the number one receiver position for Buffalo. And I think it makes sense because, Both guys are going to be 29 years old when started the NFL season. On top of that, you know, they have somebody that has experience and they can,

they can rely on and off the field, right? There's been so many questions about who Keon-C Coleman is. And I think Brandon Bean said, man, I can't wait on you. I can't trust that you're going to be the guy we need you to be when this season starts. So it makes sense to me. And also, you know, if you're Brandon Bean, you're not going to go into his draft and go get a KC conception to be your all, you know, to be your world-beater, if you would. So nevertheless, as we push forward, I like it.

I think it also shows that right now with DJ Moore at the number one spot, Khalil Shakur, you have these tight ends, you have James Cook. This office could be a top 10, top five office next thing. Without a gap. That's the expectation with Josh Allen. And so I love that. And I also think if you're if you're a Buffalo, you have a receiver who's hyper durable, right? Like I got a graphic right.

Like this is, I mean, he's played, he plays. Like, he's always on the field. Like, right now, most, most games played wide receiver in the last five years. It's 85, right? Like, that's a guy you can count on on Sunday. So many of the bills receivers have made, have been in a tub, right? There's just flat out, you can't depend on them. You can start with Calvin Benjamin, you can my stuff on Diggs.

Whoever, but nevertheless, man, I love it for them. It's the band they need it. And, you know, hopefully you can show up and show out for him. Listen, I love that graphic because what I was going to say was, in Chicago, some people are just overly celebrating it, I think. DJ Moore is still a very, very good player. Yes, I think so. He just, he became a luxury for the Bears, and he's a necessity for the bills.

So I would answer this question is this impacts Josh Moore, because are the Bears going to miss DJ Moore's leadership, his toughness? Yeah, like, do I think Luther Burden is going to be a star in this league? Yes, but he hasn't done it for one full season. Correct. DJ Moore is going to be 29. He's got four 1,100-yard seasons. Do I like Roma Dunesley a lot?

Yeah, but does he have a complete start-to-finish dominant season? No, he doesn't. So the Bears will feel the loss, but I think they can withstand it, and they just, frankly, need to allocate those resources elsewhere to their defense, to their offensive line and all that. Josh Allen needs a number one. 100%. He needs one.

He needs a guy who can line up outside, who can run the full route tree, who will be there every game, who will go over the middle and is better than Keon Coleman and Khalil Shakir and it presents more of a challenge for defenses than tight ends do just because of the routes that they run. This was, if it wasn't going to be DJ Moore, we've been talking about it. Like, were they going to win the bidding war for Alec Pierce? Were they going to try to make a different aggressive trade for A.J. Brown?

Like, we have been talking about Josh Allen getting a number one. Now he has one. Well, I think the only issue I think Bill's fans have is the compensation, right? They paid a lot. I mean, honestly, I thought they were going to give up a fifth or six, right? They gave up the fifth. The second is aggressive for me because you need help on defense, right? Like the office alignies up.

Like there's pieces out there that you still can allocate. And now you're talking about, you know, they eat a lot of his money for next year. They're going to make it team friendly. You've got to understand that. But also when they go into the draft next year, they're not going to have a lot of cap space because of this deal. Yeah, listen, desperate teams do desperate things. and when you are, hey, Josh Allen hasn't even been to a Super Bowl. He's in his prime.

We have this huge. It's a Band-Aid 100%. Yeah, because he turns 29. How many more years of his prime does he have? Who knows? But it should be at least a couple where he's very good. But I think it is on the board that DJ Moore is a top 10 receiver in football next year. Because I think he's going to get 120 targets from a top one or two quarterback in the league.

Like that, he's going to get volume and he's going to produce. Well, I think you talked about his skills. I think he's one of those guys. He's built like a running back, but he has a skill set like a receiver. Yeah. Which is huge. So I love it. All right.

Let's talk about your Steelers here. Aaron Rogers, we'd all been waiting. He showed back up on the Maccifee show yesterday. And, you know, he was asked about his return to Pittsburgh. And as always, he said a lot. He said, listen, there's been no deadline that's been put in front of me. There's no contract offer or anything. So there's nothing that I'm having to debate between.

I'm a free agent. I'm enjoying my time with my wife and enjoying the part of the off season. And I think there's conversations to be had down the line. But right now, there hasn't been any progressive conversations. Okay. Willie, is Aaron Rogers worth waiting for it? Yes.

Yes. I'll say it to the end of time. Yes, it's worth waiting for Aaron Rogers. DP. I'm embarrassed for you. What out there that's out there that's better than Aaron Rogers? Right now. Gino Smith.

What about Kyle Murray? No, he's coming off a foot fracture. Hold on a second. You don't think that there's more upside with Kyle. Listen, I don't think Kyler Murray wants to go to Pittsburgh. Kyle Murray played five games last season, right? At his best, when healthy, he's a top 10 quarterback. I said that yesterday.

Yeah, right? And he could be the answer for multiple years. And you would get him for the minimum. Right, but you know what Aaron Rogers did for the Pittsburgh Steelers? He fixed a broken system, right? You talk about D.K. Metcalfe, John Hsu Smith, not having a run game, an officer line that they had questions about going into the season. He erased all of that, right?

Wait a minute. He did exactly what you've done before, which is be okay to a little bit above average in the regular season and then lose in the postseason. No, no, no, no, no, don't get a twisted. If Aaron Rogers isn't the quarterback for the Pistler Steelers, they don't make the playoffs. Like that's the difference. You put anybody other than Aaron Rogers in that position with that offense, it's a no-go for-stead. Not anybody other than Aaron Rogers. But you know what I'm saying.

There are better quarterbacks than Aaron Rogers at 41, 42 years old. And again, let's just against playoff teams last year, against the good teams, the teams that you guys, you want that seventh trophy? That looked like a guy who's ready to give it to you? Listen, I'll say this to the end of time. I'd rather have a shot in a place at the table than not have a shot at all. I know, I know. We disagree on that. If you feel like you know how the story starts and you know how it ends, fine.

I think the Pissper Steelers are more than capable to go into this draft. Excuse me. This free agency and say, hey, we got DK. We let go to John. We can now look at Aaron Rogers if he agrees to come back and say, hey, you know what, Christian Kirk? We need a number two. Right.

What's up? If Tyreek Hill, you know what's up? Hey, man, you want a resurgence? Why not make it with Aaron Rogers? If you're Mike Evans, you feel like you got one or two years and you want to make it, you want to have a shot with a legit outfit led by Aaron Rogers, let's do it. If Aaron Rogers isn't your quarterback, there's nobody. in the free agent market at receiver

that wants to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you believe that the Pittsburgh Steelers haven't offered Aaron Rogers a contract? Because he's like, they haven't offered me one. I think the Steelers, it's wild, because I heard that too. I'm just like, well, it feels like a technicality.

That's all it is. It feels like a turn of phrase. You can tell they definitely had a conversation. I think the Steel, I know Omar Khan, personally. He's very, he's very to your face. Like, he's going to express. Like, he can be coy with the media, but he's not in conversation when you're one-on-one. He'll tell you exactly what it means that direction he wants to go. But, like, so Aaron knows what's on the table. So the Steelers said they were going to wait a month.

It's certainly been that. Free agency opens, you know, on Monday. Mike McCarthy says they want Aaron Rogers back. Aaron Rogers is apparently working out and open to playing. Right. So if you retire, you're not working out. You're on a boat somewhere in the Bahamas. But so, but so I don't, I don't understand. What don't you have? understand. Like, this is what he does. He holds the NFL Hosses year after year. But that's, isn't that beneath you guys? Stop it. It's embarrassing. It's not beneath you when you know the product you're getting. You know what you're getting out of Aaron Rogers. You know what he fixed. You know how much deficiencies in holes he covered up in your office.

They don't have an answer. Do you want your, do you want Mike McCarthy your first time in the seat, not as a head coach, but for the Pittsburgh Steelers, to have a bad start, right? It's, it would be a bad start with Will Howard. If you want momentum, and when you want to win a guy with somebody you had success with, history with you want a Super Bowl with? Yeah, you wait around.

An eternity ago. A Super Bowl win? Doesn't matter. It's a Super Bowl with. I was over 15 years. Is it not on his resume? Do we not talk about Mike McCarthy being a Super Bowl winner? Okay.

If Mike McCarthy and Aaron Roder, if you're getting 2010 Aaron Rogers, then I would wait till opening day. I don't think that is happening. This coat, Let your Knicks completely off the hook. That's what I have to say it right now. Completely off the hook.

Are you that wild bite of coat? Are you not? I think I've seen that. What? All right, we end today. Talking the game in the night. People are saying maybe a finals preview. I know you're certainly hoping for that.

Willie as a Knicks fan. SGA drops 26 in the Garden, three point game. Congrats on your cover for the Knicks. Fashion, though, after the game. quite a statement from SGA, an understated coat for 45, 50 degrees in New York City. Let's just take a listen to the description. The people are really curious about this. Coke are what you're wearing.

I'll never wear a gatekeeper. We're sharing people. Yeah, I'm a gate keep. Yeah. Thank you. Y'all have a good night. Doesn't so let the, let the fashion make its own statement, I guess. Let the coat do the talking.

to talk about it. Willie, this is a very serious question. I went to journalism school. My parents are very proud. I'm proud of you too. Thank you. Bigger story. The Knicks lost or SGA's coat. This is a exhaust it. It's a bit, it's a tough question. It's a bit. For me as a Knicks fan, the Knicks broke my heart last night because they needed another statement. It's the coach. Oh, dude. Oh. It actually works for you. It really It works for you. I have beautiful eyes. It covers up everything else.

This is great. Who knows? Maybe I'm muscular underneath there. Oh, come on. You. I got biceps under there. You know who pulls off a better coat? Dionne Sanders.

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