First Things First - Bill Belichick snubbed, Giannis trade interest, Eagles hire Sean Mannion as OC, BUD List

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

(0:00) Bill Belichick snubbed, Is Nick Sirianni a top 5 coaching hire?  (27:16) Drake Maye not at 100%, Should Broncos fans be concerned? (39:27) Knicks, Heat, T-Wolves and Warriors among suitors for Giannis (48:11) BUD List (01:11:31) Eli Manning not in HOF, Did Belichick getting snubbed hurt his legacy? (01:23:30) Sam Darnold favorite to win SB MVP (01:29:52) Should Patriots fans be worried about Drake Maye? (01:50:55) Frenemies (02:04:46) Bo Nix responds to Sean Payton’s injury remarks (02:11:51) Eagles hire Sean Mannion as OC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You see that every day? Regular races. Most motivational segment in all of sports, it's the Bud List alongside Nick Wright. I'm Kevin Wilde's. Brew, how was coming up with the Bud List last night? It was interesting, because I, Obviously, there are no NFL games this weekend except the Pro Bowl.

So I went basketball. I got some hoopers in there. Excellent. Nice. Anybody on the bubble? But still a little football. Yeah, who was? I can't remember who it was.

There was a guy. We're just O for life. There was a guy. We're just O for life. You know what? It was a couple quarterbacks. Oh, good. C.J. Stroud and Jay J.

McCart. We're starting with the fallout. I mean, you're asking a question. Can I take a minute to get my thoughts together? Follow up from Belichick's Hall of Fame shutout. Vahe Grigorian writing in the Kansas City Star that he hoped the voting system would change moving forward, but that he excluded Belichick because, quote, he felt duty-bound to vote for the richly deserving seniors who most likely won't ever have a hearing again.

Belichick is inevitable soon. Brew, were you okay with this rationale? No, no, a thousand times no. All right. There's only one rationale, and a lot of people disagree with that. Yeah. And like I said yesterday, I would have voted for Belichick, but for people that will say or said in the meeting,

I'm not going to make him first ballot because of Spigate and the cheating. I respect that because he did cheat. You know, some people can say, you know, you've heard coaches say everybody was doing it. Why is there the only one? they got, they lost the draft pick. They're only ones that got fine. So for that, that's fine. There is no other

plausible or rational reason for not putting Bill Belichick with six Super Bowl wins into the Hall of Fame. I guess here's the only case. If he were in a class and you could only pick five of them and it was like Brady,

Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Montana, and Jim Brown, and Bill Belichick. And you had to leave one out. Maybe you leave the coach out because you give the nod to the players. But outside of something crazy like that, there's no way. And here's the thing, too, because he wrote about Elsie Greenwood, Roger Craig, and Ken Anderson. All were great players in their day. He wrote that they were in his mind unequivocally, they unequivocally belonged in.

in Canton in the Hall of Fame. That how? Correct. To be in the senior committee or a candidate on the senior committee, you had to be passed over for 50, 20 years. 20 years. You're eligible after your fifth year retirement, and then you're eligible to be elected up until your 25th year from retirement.

Then if you're not in by then, you go to the senior committee. My thing would be, if you've been passed over, 20 times. You were very good, but you're probably not a hall of her. 20 times? 20 times seems like a lot. So it doesn't hold water with me, his rationale.

So no, it doesn't, I don't agree with it. I don't want to dismiss the relevance or the importance of the senior committee and senior committee enshrineers because there have been instances, most notably last year, where I did think the senior committee righted a wrong. I really liked it. And I think you probably did too. That Sterling Sharp got it.

I was like, you know what? I think that, and you, so I am not going to act as if every single person that is passed over those 20 years, that that means every single one of them doesn't deserve another look. But I agree with every single thing Chris Roussard said. This is, and I like Vahey, and I know he takes this responsibility very seriously, because he inherited it from the great writer, Teres Pailer, who died suddenly and very young. He was the Kansas City-based voter Vahy, got it.

So people are entitled to their opinions, and this is my opinion about his opinion. But this is the rationale I am least okay with. I am because Hall of Fames are not about making people feel good. Right. Hall of Fames are not about, man, it would be so nice for his family. They're not. Because if they become that, then they lose the resonance they have for true blue Hall of Famers.

And his rationale, and I went through the history of it, is correct in this regard. everyone that's been a senior committee nominee and then not made it, they're done. Nobody has been a multi-time senior. Like Eli Manning is one time. Right, now looks like he's going to be a multi-time finalist who doesn't make it. It'll be a finalist multiple times. Maybe will or won't make it. But in the regular course of events, guys become finalists, don't make it.

They're finalists again the next year. They don't make it. Senior committee, that has not happened. that when guys have become finalists and not gotten over it, that really is the end for them, at least. So I understood his concern that any of these three guys that don't get in now, almost officially, will never get in. Well, that's okay with me.

Because if you were not holding Belichick out due to what you thought was a penalty for the cheating, he has to get one of those spots. and I'm big on, you know, unintended consequences and knock on effects. Here's the other thing we now know. When we're talking about people deserving to get in, not deserving to get in, under the current system, KW, there is only one coach finalist a year. So if you are Mike Shanahan or Tom Coughlin or if Mike Tomlin makes it clear like, no, I'm really done, done coaching, or Mike Hartman.

Holmgren or whomever people think maybe you know they're getting pushed well we I feel like we know with certainty next year's coaching finalist will be Bill Belichick and so all those guys now wait an additional year if they do at some point get in Hall of Fames are supposed to be hard to get into and so I didn't this is the rationale that rubbed me the most wrong of all the possible rationales unless someone's like you know what I didn't like him That would be outrageous. If it was just, yeah, I didn't give out the cheating. He deserved to get in, but I thought he was rude to reporters,

but I don't think anybody's going to have that rationale. But Valle didn't necessarily know that he wasn't getting in. That's why I'm moderate. I really want Bill Belichick in, obviously, but I was okay reading his rationale. I wonder if it would change or it's like, hey, you're the deciding vote. But I would hope so. I've always said that because we know only Mariano Rivera

is the only unanimous guy in the Major League Baseball, right? And so obviously, and that was just a few years ago, obviously when it came to Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Willie Mae, whoever, someone said nobody's ever 100% in baseball. So I'm not going to vote for him. What if several people did that? I've always thought. What if too many people did that thinking, of course,

he's going to get in, and then he doesn't. That's ridiculous. So you can't have that approach. It should just be, is he a Hall of Fame or not? I mean, listen, there is an argument that should be made, that could be made, that the way to ensure people vote who they truly believe the class should be is if you add 50 voters, you all write down three names, and we're not counting the votes. We're picking one of these ballots at random.

And so like that, and I'm not advocating for that. What I'm saying is there are a lot of ways people try to, you know, kind of work around the system here. Because what you're implying there is that Vahey or anyone who did, and I don't want to pick on him because he actually, you know, put his name to it and did what we asked people to do. I assume there were other people that might have had the same rationale, right? Did those people vote for the three people they actually wanted to be in, or did they want to. to not have any culpability for any of those three not getting in. Because the other thing about this that I hope people understand, and this is just the math of it, there are 50 voters.

They all submit three names. So there are 150 total names. If you need 40 votes to get in, if everyone gets the minimum needed, that's 120, which ensures three maximum ever can get in, just mathematically, with this process. So when those those, when you vote for those three,

what that should be saying is these are the three that I think should be in this year, and it didn't feel like that's necessarily the case in this circumstance, which is why I don't, I didn't love this ration. He also said Belichick will be there

next year or something to that effect. So that would make you think he thought, oh, he may not get in. To me, though, that rationale of Belichick will be here next year, it goes against what you were saying. Like he's thinking, oh, he's probably getting in anyway. His thinking was he's going to be here next year.

I can vote for him then. That means you don't understand. I feel like you don't understand the importance of a first ballot Hall of Famer. Like, that means something. I get it. They're all Hall of Famers. But nobody's, all the people that are ranting and raving about and upset about Belichick, none of them think I don't believe

he's not going to ever get into Hall of Fame. They're just saying how in the world is he not a first ballot Hall of Fame? So to have a voter who thinks there's really no difference between first ballot and third ballot or second or whatever, I would

question your understanding of the importance of it. Just quick pop quiz. Answer in three seconds. Where's your favorite place to go on vacation? Italy. Okay, that's it. That's the real answer. His favorite place to go on vacation is Italy. If I was like, hey, I want you to come up with a solution tomorrow.

I'm going to ask you, what's your favorite place to go on vacation? You're like, man, I like Italy. I do like Vegas. Oh, Vegas, I want to retract. We would talk to say no. I was trying to say, no. I was trying to sound. There's a point where everybody is overthinking this.

Bill Belichick's there. Done. Bill Belichick. Okay, what? I'm moving on with my day. Well, that is. If you're doing all this stuff, it's almost like replay. Look at it.

Was that a catch? I got five seconds. That was a catch. I don't say. I don't disagree with you. If you're not automatically a Hall of Fame in your mind, you're never, then there would be no senior committee. I mean, I get what you said about Sterling Schart.

But for the most part, you've been overlooked 20 years. Well, that is. It's not for everybody. Josh, right. It's not for everybody. You were a very good player. And Josh, fact checked me on if I have the person right. But there is a famous story about, because, you know, everyone has their own presenter.

Like there is one person in charge of John McLean from the Houston Chronicle would present for Andre Johnson every year, like advocate for him. And I believe the player in this story is Jim Brown, that Jim Brown's presenter for the Hall of Fame got up, said Jim Brown and sat back down. And I'm pretty sure that, and it was that everyone knew he's in. I don't have to make a case for it. For Belichick, that obviously is the case, barring these odd other things that I thought It had to just be the cheating scandals.

And now, evidently, there's another rationale which does feel weird to me. All right, Cardinals and Raiders still looking for a head coach hire. Looking to hit a home run, like the following guys. Bill Barnwell made a list of the top five. Well, actually, he listed more than five, but we're only going to talk about the top five. Best recent head coach hires. His list goes like this. Dan Campbell at one.

Siriani, with his two Super Bowl appearances, one win. at two. McDonald, Vrable, D'Amico Ryan, Sean Peyton, Kevin O'Connell, Ben Jotson, Harbaugh, and Dan Quinn. Rounding out the top 10. Do you have any issues with this list? Like it, love it?

I have one major issue, but first I would like to say this, because what he did was he listed every single hire the previous five cycles, and there were 37. 37 hires, 21 through 25. And just for everyone that is super optimistic about their brand new head coach, Just for some context, there are Bill Barnwell, who I think is really, really sharp. Yep.

Has Robert Sala as the 14th best hire. There are 23 hires worse than that. Had Brian Jait? The Jets with the Jets? Yes. So he's blaming it all on the Jets organization. No, no. What I'm saying is we forget how many disaster hires there were.

Brian Dable was an above average hire for the Giants over the last five years from Barnwell's list. because you forget, you're like, wait, the Raiders have had three head coaches. Like, you know, there were 10 hires worse than Gerard Mayo who was one and done with the patch. So there's just so many more unsuccessful hires than successful hires. Just a level set. But my issue is with what used to be Wilds' guy, but I think Wilds has foisted him on Brew. And I think Brew unwittingly has maybe accepted it. Nick Siriani being number two.

No, man. Because I would definitively rather have and think better hires were. Dan Campbell was ahead of him. I like Mike Grable. I think that's working out. Sure. I like Mike McDonald. I think that's working out.

D'Amico, Sean Payton, Ben Johnson, Jim Harbaugh. And I will, in my heart of hearts, I would say Liam Cohen and Kevin O'Connor. But there is Kevin O'Connell's been there and hasn't won playoff games. And Liam Cohen, the resume is so thin. I won't do it. But those other eight guys are better hires. And I think their team's happier with them. Their ownership's happier with them.

Their players might be happier with them. I think Nick Siriani, and even in his write-up for it, he's like, this is a tough one because he has won a Super Bowl and he also seems to be reviled in corners of his own fan base and maybe organization. So I do not think Nick Siriani is the second best coaching hire of the last five years. I don't think. Look, I agree with you and the eight guys you named Campbell, Jim Harbaugh, so on and so forth, Sean Payton. I feel like those guys are all better coaches than Siriani.

I feel that way. And if I were starting a team, I'd probably, I'd look at them before him. But that's subjective. That's subjective. Objectively speaking, there you go. Siriani has, he does the, there's one thing. I'll give you two.

Two things that determine whether or not a coach is good. Two objective things. One, he wins. If I have a team full of all stars and I roll out the ball and they win, guess what? I'm a great coach. Correct. Because some coaches would overcoach him. No, LeBron, get over here.

do it past the button. Let them play. They're good enough. Their coaches that overcoach, all right? And get in the way of talent. All right. So number one, he does win here. Look at this graphic.

Best win percentage. I told you. Let him have him. In soup, in the soup. But no, look at this, though. I know. He's third. He's ahead of Belichick and Andy Reed and Bill Parcells

and all these other great coaches. Okay. So he has one. Here's another one, too. Only a handful of coaches. have ever made the playoffs their first five seasons. He's one of them. It's five.

And here's the thing. They were four, 11 and won the year before he got there. And you can scoff at it. I don't scoff. But in that first year. But two years before they won the Super Bowl. So what?

That coach got fired and they didn't have Sequine Barclay. They didn't have A.J. Brown. Jalen Hurts was, most people thought, he's not a franchise quarter. So the second thing I was going to say, player development. You win first, but you also develop players. Saquine Barkley had his best season under who? He didn't get anywhere near 2,000 yards without Siriani.

AJ Brown, for all the scoffing, he's had his three best seasons under who? And he played three years in Tennessee, three best seasons under Siriani. And so there's other ones. Jaylen Hertz, he developed him, Zach Bond. Zach Bond was not viewed as anything. We're giving him not Vic Fangio credit for Jack Ball. Who's head coach?

But Vic Fangio wanted it. Yes, of course the defensive coordinators, the offense coordinators gets some credit, but the head coach gets the blame and he gets the credit. So I get you might not like, as you would say, the cut of his jib, all right?

But the dude wins. There is no, there are no ifs, ands, or butts about it. Philadelphia as a franchise had been to two Super Bowls in the 40 years before Siriani. He went to two in his first four years. So can I? They had won one Super Bowl in 54 years before Siriani. He won one in year four.

I'm just saying, I want a coach that wins. I don't care if I think he's, oh, subjectively, oh, he does this, he does that. Dan Campbell just missed the playoffs. Can I just ask one quick question, just in general? Good. Do we agree, for the most part, the foremost important people with an organization, not in order, just the foremost are the owner, the general manager, the head coach, and the quarterback?

That as far as individuals, those people have the most impact for a football team's success. Is it not what, is it not possible that there are some incredibly successful? organizations, that one of those, that in one of those positions, that guy is coasting off the others? That's my question. That is, if the Eagles have great ownership that spins in a way no one else really does, a GM that has been excellent and has won a Super Bowl without Siriani, a quarterback who you adore and talks about all of the intangible things he's done and he had those qualities

in college. Like does an organization being great mean they automatically have great coach, quarterback, GM and owner, or in some instances, is one of those guys coasting off the others. How's he coasting when they won four games before he got there with the same GM, same quarterback, same owner? Because you he was the difference. So that's where I did.

You focus on the one year before he got there as opposed to the three years before he got there. They had a down season, but that was a team that was good enough to win a Super Bowl with a backup quarterback two years prior, and the year before that won a playoff game with a backup quarterback. So it wasn't like a woe-begone organization. It was a pretty well-run, tight organization that had recently won a Super Bowl and then had a disaster year, which I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any credit for that. But like, here's what I mean, like, is every owner GM head coaching quarterback of every great team great? Or do some of them have somebody in the mix there? That's not great, but he's right place, right time. But every reason you think he's not great, it's the same for me.

If I have questions about him, it's subjective. There's what is the objective view? Do you win? Do you develop players? It's not like we've seen coaches make errors in personnel. We've seen him make. Vey Payton just as we're in timeout errors. Yeah, I don't think he's great at game management.

He's not bad. He's that he's lost games for them. I'm like, hey, you did this wrong? I think absolutely some of the stuff. And I think that this. We've seen that with. No, of course. I've seen him covered in Gatorade too.

It's hard to argue. I saw Doug Peterson covered in Gatorade for the same franchise. for the same franchise. I'm not sure Peters is not a good coach. A lot of Super Bowl coaches get fired eventually. Everyone's getting fired eventually. Doug Peterson got fired two years after winning a Super Bowl for the same franchise. Nick Siriani is going to get fired two years after winning the Super Bowl.

They can't fill their offensive coordinator slot. Maybe. Nobody. Here's the thing. We can argue all this. There is not a person alive who would rather have Nick Siriani than right now than D'Amico Ryan's or Sean Payton or Mike Braebel. The owner, the owner reportedly likes Siriani.

Lurie. I feel very confident that if the, my issue is this. And it comes down, this is a lot of like the challenge of like when I talk about Sam Donald. What do you want him to do? Like if you like, man, Nick, if he called you, he came and he's like, Nick, I heard your criticism of me. What do you want me to do?

Because I've gone to two Super Bowls. I've made the playoffs. What do you think I should do? So I think that the. answer there, there's multi-layered. One is figure out why every other year your team is in some, every other year. In the playoffs? No, some bizarre.

What was bizarre this year? Drew. This year, what was bizarre? They had the supernatural funk a few years ago. What was bizarre this year? You can think everything with Philly this year was normal? I think A.J. Brown, you got a receiver, a diva-wide receiver, which a lot of teams have, that runs his mouth.

Outside of that, what was the issue? I mean, he's an offensive-minded coach with the most expensive offense in the history of the NFL who went three and out more than any team in the league. Just because it's expensive doesn't mean anything. I mean, I don't know. We think the players are good. I think the players are good. I think they woefully underachieved offensively this year.

I didn't even think that was in dispute. I mean, that's not. I think that's fair, but there's other, I saw a lot of other great teams not make the playoffs. Yeah, Dan Campbell, why didn't they make the playoffs? And I think there is a can. He got great players. But so this is, this is. I'm just saying, I want to something objective.

I, I, I, I, but this is, right, I understand there are objective ways we can measure guys. But we are here giving our opinion. And I think, and what's frustrating on this side of the table right now is, I think everything I'm saying here is an opinion you guys actually share. That those seven coaches I listed, you also would rather have coach your team. That those seven coaches. guys I listed for reasons maybe you can't quite define why you think D'Amico Ryan's is a better pro football coach than Nick Siriani, but you agree with me. I'd rather have a guy that wins.

So, so, Brew, if the Ravens this offseason, if Sireani and D'Miko were both available, you would have been on here saying, I hope they hire Nick Siriani over D'Iko Rions, I don't, I don't think that. But again, that still is subjective. Yes, it's my subjective opinion. Okay, but I'm saying I'm being objective and saying he wins. I know some of the things you don't like about him or that he yells at the fans, you know, after a big win.

I mean, whatever. Buddy Ryan was a person. There's a lot of coaches that have these outgoing crazy personalities, but if they win, they win. So, yes, he has won. He has won. And it hasn't been handed to him. When he took over, they were like,

a ninth best Russian offense in the league. He took him immediately his first year to the number one Russian offense in the league without Saquine Barclay. With Miles Sanders and guys like that. Like, I hear what you're saying, and I do, I say it. I agree that I like all those guys better. But that doesn't mean they're better coaches. I can't say Siriani wasn't a great hire for Philadelphia when he took them from four wins

to two Super Bowl players. It has been an objectively successful. higher. I also think there were eight or nine names on that list who are better coaches. Doesn't even mean they would have been better in Philadelphia. I just think they're better coaches. And I also think that

Philadelphia right now feels some type of way about him and there's a reason. Bo Nix, not super happy with Sean Payton talking about his ankle surgeries. That's next on First Things First and Fox Sports Radio on Sirius like that.

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I'm just, I was going to say it looks. Afternoon headlines sponsored by the U.S. Army, be all you can be. Bo Necks had surgery on his ankle. And we got an update, maybe too much of an update from Sean Payton, who said, you know, Bo breaking his ankle was not a matter of if, but when. And Bo didn't appreciate his coach's candor. Take a listen.

Nothing predisposed, nothing that was there originally. I might have gotten confused. But, you know, I was just a simple step when my, my foot up in the air. My body weight came down on it. Sort of got twisted up and was just one of those missteps. And didn't have any predisposed issues. My ankles were feeling really good.

I don't think he really should share how many surgeries I've had in the past, to be honest with you because he doesn't really even know that. Kind of strange. Listen, I know I'm the wrong messenger for this. No one in the media was more wrong about the Broncos this year than me. and I have been a unintentional Denver sports pessimist dating back to being the last one on the Yokic train.

So I get, nobody wants to hear this for me, but this is a weird 96 hours from a team that had, by any objective measure, a wildly successful season that ended when it did. One of the only ways you can lose a home conference championship game and if you handle the PR right, nobody's mad at anybody.

Yeah. Got unlucky. What do you want us to? Our quarterback broke his ankle on the second and last play of the divisional round game and we were right there. And you know what?

If not for a snowstorm and a tip field goal might have stolen it. Instead, Sean Payton fired three coaches, including his offensive coordinator, who attributes his firing to, and I quote, Sean was in one of his moods. That was strange.

And then, Bo Nix calls his own press conference. The team didn't set this up. Bo Nix calls his own press conference to correct what he considers misinformation not from the dark web or AI or bots but from his head coach. They ain't great.

And so it's not nothing that all of a sudden it really sounds like the quarterback of the Broncos is upset with the head coach of the Broncos. That's something and it's something weird. Yeah, it's definitely something. And it's strange because typically

from the top down, meaning, you know, execs, coaches, to the players, it's need to no basis. Not I'm going to offer just information just because I want to fill you guys in on all the nuts and boats and the crannies of it all. No, that's not how it works. So I understand, and I'm with Bo on trying to defend this idea of there was something lingering or underlying. It was a ticking time bomb. Like, no, no, because that's, that all.

almost insinuates to a player who, number one, during the process of going to Indy, going through the entire combine process, all of this is knowledge to every team. They have all this information on your medical history. So you're trying to defeat the odds of this idea of, are you injury prone? Do you always have issues with your ankles? Like, do you think there's going to be something moving? He was probably asked this stuff every day in Indy. and then to have your head coach offer all this information

when you as a head coach typically tell us as players specifically other people don't speak on anybody else's injury don't speak on anybody even even if you feel like you have an idea let that be up to the training staff and or that specific player bow he mentioned he's upstairs he's doing good leave it at that he had the injury he's recovering he wants to be here for offseason program, that's all we care about. Like, period.

Now he's in a position where he's trying to defend himself because he knows contracts coming up. I don't want to be labeled as somebody that is an injury risk. Correct. But you as my head coach, you're putting this out there as if this is possibly something that I'm going to have to be concerned about and everyone should know that just in case. I mean, this is something that we're going to be circling moving forward. It's unfair to ball.

I'm glad you mentioned contract, because that's kind of one of the only explanations for Sean Peyton saying this. I mean, you said usually you're not giving out this type of information. Now, I do think he's correct. Boas has several ankle injuries and surgeries. He has surgery after last season. He injured, broke his ankle in college. He broke it in high school.

He had surgery after last season when he didn't really get injured. This year, obviously injury and surgery. But to me, the only reason for Peyton to put that out there is almost to be like to lower his value. Not that they don't want to keep him, but to lower his market value. So let's say when it's time to re-up him, they don't want to give him 50 million or 60 million. That was going through Sean Payton's dead. I don't understand. I can't think of another.

It's bizarre, but I can't think of another reason a coach would say this. Because he popped off. Because he wants to lower. He likes to hear himself. He likes to talk. Okay. He does. I'm with Greg, and I don't understand why you would say that.

I think he's right, but you don't even need to give out that information. And Nix, by the way, is not even allowed to get a contract for another year. Correct. You know what I mean? And I know you know that just for the audience. It is, and if you even remember, Sean Payton, when he did the impromptu press conference after the divisional round game and told everyone, the second press conference about Bow's ankle being broken. He said, like, as an aside, he's like, yeah, Bo mentioned to me, he's like, oh, that's the one I've had surgeries on.

And I said to him, oh, man, I wish you to told me that. I wouldn't have drafted you. And we laughed. Like, it, Sean Payton's weird about the stuff he says publicly and on the record. He's just, it's just weird. It sounds. He is out of the mainstream from how other head coaches do it. And this is a story only because.

he pissed his quarterback all. The only way to read it is the quarterback's upset. You know, I've got a take that you're going to hear tomorrow. You're now treating in no bull zone, sponsored by credible. Great rates, none of the bull. Patriots didn't practice yesterday, and they said if they did, Drake May wouldn't have been a full go. This is video from today.

He's got a football in his hand, and he's going to throw it? Nope. The media, he didn't. We didn't see him throw a pass, but this has become a bit of a story, although Mike Vrable says that he doesn't have much of a concern at all. Is that the fish? I want to get it right, Hubbs. He say he's not concerned at all.

Stand by. No concern. No concern. Okay. That being said, do you think the Patriots can beat the Seahawks if he's not 100%? Although we don't know if he's not going to be 100%. He might be 100%. I never say never.

We've seen strange things happening in the Super Bowl. I would not have thought Nick Foals would beat Tom Brady. Or Eli Manning would beat Tom Brady twice. Or a first year starter, Tom Brady, would beat Kurt Warner. So the Super Bowl, you don't know. Seems like maybe we just don't know Super Bowls involving Tom Brady. All the, I. But I think the chances are very slim that they could beat Seattle without Drake May at his best.

Because I think he's going to need to play really well. they're going to have to put up points. I get they've only allowed about nine points a game in the playoffs, but those were mediocre to the charge is really a relatively poor offense, you know, by their numbers, 21 points a game. Seattle's third highest scoring team in the league, 28 a game, and in the playoffs, they've averaged 36 against two playoff teams. So I think that Seattle, I'm not saying they're going to light the Patriot's defense up,

but they're going to put some points on the board and so Drake is going to have to produce some points and be close to his best for them to win. So he can not be 100%, but he can't not play good to great football. Correct.

I don't care if he's not 100%. What matters is how you look when you're not 100%. Now we'll we can, if it was his shoulder that has caused him to have the dip in performance in the postseason.

We dismiss it, especially last week, because of the weather. It's like, you know what? That was a sloppy game, muddy game, snowy game. You're going to run the ball anyway. We don't really want you throwing the ball. Okay, we'll throw that out. In this game, to your point, this Seattle team can put up points. If we don't see a resemblance of Drake May that we've seen be able to counterpunch

by getting the ball down the field, being accurate with the ball, then we're going to start to really question, man, his shoulder really must be injured. So can they win with him not being 100%? Yes. He just has to be good. Brett told me this when I first got into the National Football League, if you're a great player and you get injured, it's best to have you on the field and available if and only if you're still, your 80% is.

better than most people is 100%. If that's what we get out of, if that's what we see out of Drake May, they'll be fine. Yes. I'm going to echo what Greg said maybe slightly differently. I do not think the Patriots can

win this game without an A-minus or better Drake May game. Oh. Why? You think you are that confident in Seattle's defense? I think Seattle is the best team in the NFL. All year long, I was saying it was the Rams. And I thought the Rams, you know, were this close.

But they beat the Rams twice. They beat them, you know, fair and square. And Seattle's resume was more impressive than the Rams by a tick. And so I think Seattle is considerably better than any of the teams you guys have played up to this point in the playoffs. And I think you guys have not been yourselves up to this point in the playoffs because you have a quarterback who has. who all year long was a top two MVP candidate on the merits who has not played well. And who really gives a damn he hasn't played well? You're in the Super Bowl.

But I do not see any scenario where Drake May plays the type of game he has played the first three rounds and you guys beat this Seahawks team on a neutral field. That I just, I don't think that is realistic, especially now that I've kind of removed. Darnold going full pumpkin from the possibilities. Like it would have been possible if I'm like that that Darnold's going to go do what CJ did against you guys. But I don't think that's going to happen. But you think the Seahawks are scoring over 20 points?

Over 20? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Go ahead. I do not. You have the Seahawks scoring under 20?

Yes. All right. Trade deadline is a week from today. A deal for Janus may come to a head soon. Shams made a list of. serious suitors. Shams's list of serious suitors, the heat,

the timber wolves, the Knicks, and the Warriors, oh my. True, your thoughts. Well, look, I don't want to see them in Miami. It would deplete their team too much. I don't think they'd be that great. They'd be Milwaukee South. Right.

Miami's out. Right. Yeah. Minnesota would be fun and interesting in him and Anthony Edwards, but I don't think they have the assets to get. Now, in fairness, All these teams are probably going, it's going to have to be a three, maybe four team deal to get the picks. You could, right, but I just think that the Warriors do have draft assets too. But the players, Draymond or Jimmy who's not, who's hurt and comminga, I don't think that's enough.

But Minnesota flatly has no picks. Yeah, that's, yeah, so they ought to get a third team with the pitch. The Knicks and Golden State, either one of them would be a lot of fun. I think, though, as fun as it would be to see Steph and Janus together, I'm not sure they'd have enough. I could be wrong to win the West, though. That'd be a tough chore. But they'd be it, I'd love to see it.

But Nick, I think New York is, and again, they have to get a third team, an Oklahoma city of Portland that has a lot of draft capital and stuff. But I think New York, this of all the time, times LeBron is a free agent and all these every time some superstars are a free agent he's coming to New York and this is the most realistic I mean they did get Carmelo but this is like he wants to come here they've got a team that can compete for a championship particularly with him they just got to go out and make the deal and so you got to get a third team that has the picks but I would like to see him I think Nick in New York listen I would love to see him in New York

I do not think it is feasible because they simply don't have picks to trade. I understand the idea of getting a third team, but again, now we need to find a team that wants Carl Anthony Towns and wants to give you a bunch of picks for him. And so like the thunder, I mean, the thunder have no interest.

Right, now we need to, like, so it's really hard, right? The Warriors is not hard. The Warriors is, is Jimmy Butler and Kaminga for Janus and I think you have to include Kuzma for the money but that's just it's really... Now you're saying

Butler you would... If you were the Warriors would you prefer to give up Butler or Draymond? Butler because he's out and because we're trying to win right now. And I and then the Warriors would say the only way the Bucks would be interested in that at all

is the Warriors can trade all their picks. They can give them four firsts and three swaps. You can just be like with future, like who gives a damn about anything post-Steff. So we'll give you the 26, 28, 30, and 32 firsts,

which we understand the Warriors' picks in the short term are not that attractive because they have Janus and they have Steph, but you got to go for. No, I'm saying for the buck's side of it, like those aren't great picks, but the down the road ones could be excellent picks and you go

for it. I tend to agree, with you, Brew, that I don't think if that trade happened, I'd come on here and be like, I'm even necessarily picking the Warriors to make the conference finals, much less the NBA finals, but I believe in going for it.

There are, but I talked about Atlanta, Houston, and the Spurs yesterday. Atlanta, I don't know that they would become the favorites. It would be more of a build thing. Houston and the Spurs and the trades that I talked about are

The Spurs could trade a bunch of picks they have from other teams, plus Vassal and Barnes and keep, or Vassel, pardon me, and keep Wimby, obviously, and their young guards. And then I think they might be the favorites. I think they would. I think they would be the favorites. If they kept Harper, Fox, and Castle, and Wimby, and, oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

I don't know for Houston, does Stephen Adams being out for the year make you more or less likely to make a deal like this. I don't know the answer to that. My answer is if I were in their shoes, because yesterday I said if I'm Houston, I wouldn't. Now with Adams out, as I've thought about it, I think I would. Because I don't think they have a chance to get out of the West this year. They're really good.

But I don't think without, like one of their big advantages or their game plans with Stephen Adams was we can pound these teams with our size and on the glass. Now without Adams, you can't do that. So I think I would be willing to give up Shingun and other pieces to get yon. The thing is, if I'm Milwaukee, Nick, I want Reed Shepard with Shingun. Because I want young players. So young potential stars, Reed Shepard and Shingoon, I'm really pushing hard for that if I'm Milwaukee.

So there's one other team that I have not mentioned yet, but I'm just curious, take your guys temperature on. Because I don't believe NBA stars need to go to big markets. they need to go to teams they're going to play deep into the playoffs. I don't think it hurts the, I understand the platonic ideal of being in L.A. or New York, but the bad thing for the NBA regarding to Janus is not that he's in Milwaukee. It's that they're not in the playoffs late in the postseason. LeBron was huge and cool. Right.

What about Detroit? Oh. Detroit, who you have the Tobias Harris contract, so that makes a lot of things easy because now, You have Tobias Harris contract. Assar Thompson is the young player. They have all their picks so they can, you know, trade a bunch of picks if they want to go for it and say right now, we're going for it. That to me is, they might be the favorites already in the East. I would say they are my favorite.

Yeah, I mean, there are six games up on the two seed right now. And that would feel like a sturdier team once the East is back. at full strength. You know what I mean? Once Tatum's back, whenever that is, once Halliburton's back in a year, once the East is back. I just haven't seen any flirtations between Janus and the Pistons. Maybe I haven't been watching close to them. I haven't seen it either, but I don't a lot with New York and a lot with Steph. Look, Janus is great, obviously, any team would love to have him. I don't know how great a fit that is. Because one, they already lack shooting. So now that's, you lack even more shooting with Janus out there. And Kade has the, like, Yonis like

to have the ball in his hands. Cade has it in his hands. Neither one of them is an outside shooter. So it just would be a tough adjustment. But look, if they pulled it off, I'm like, hey, those are great guys make it work. Where do you want them to go, KW? Warriors.

I just feel like that's, we've been heading down that train or that track for a long time. And it's really, I think that Steph deserves one more shot at it. I agree, and they thought they were doing that with Jimmy. Did they, I mean. Well, and the interesting thing is if Jimmy were to get back next year at some point, now you, if you kept him, I'm an advocate of putting Draymond in the trade instead of

Jimmy, because I don't think you need Draymond with Yon. No, I mean, I think. Jimmy's out, sorry. I just don't think with Draymond, Drayman is like a far lesser version of Yonis. He handles the ball. He can pass. He's a great defender, but he can't shoot. I got Janus that can't shoot.

I know you got other shooters. No, I get it. But what I'm saying, like, if you trade Dremont and Cominga and Jimmy's out for the year, your, you have Steph, Janus and. Pods, the lacrosse kid. Right. And, like, I mean. And so, like, I hear that.

I just, I don't think that's. And with Draymond, it might not be enough. but at least you have another sturdy NBA player. Coming up next, it's the most motivational segment in all of sports, the Bud List, which Super Bowl QB is underdress. Certainly not Drake Mayan. Super Bowl QB. Her shoulder.

Live from New York, the show that is torn on Jackson Hayes in the dunk contest. Granted, he is my guy, and he did pull off an East Bay Dunk in a game. That being said. Who else is in it? Do we know yet? No. But we know. Harder Bryant.

Oh, really? Okay. I wouldn't mind seeing McClung in it again. No. I mean, he's shout at him again. I mean, he's pigeonholed. He feels like he's pigeonholed. I think it would be bad for him to be in the dunk.

Well, that's what he feels, apparently, because he's pulled himself out. But he was a great dunker. He is fantastic. Lean him. Well, he's got two, he won it twice. What about Cohen Carr? Ooh, but he's in college. If guys you get drafted can now go and play college basketball, why don't we have a college player come

do the NBA slam dunk contest. No. You know we should do it? Come on, you're just mad if you didn't come up with it. You're allowed to just be like great idea, Nick. Because then it was like, just let's get the best dunkers. You want Mack McCluck? He's not in the league either.

Give him a 10 day. The same thing that's done the last three years. Give him a 10 day. Zion. Well, yeah. Zion should do it. He should. Jah.

Yes, it's like, you could get, you could have a great one if guys would be in it. You get the right people to sit courtsides. Zion will do it. Molyne Lord. My ear said Skinny Luca because he can dunk now. What? Today, Patriots Dynasty is it tainted by Belichick's Hall of Fame snub? Wow.

One person here has that bold claim. Meanwhile, can Sam Darnold silence his doubters forever if he wins the Super Bowl? The answer to that is no. Yeah. No. No, because you guys are still dishing Jalen Hertz. Even I had to back off my Jailen Hertz tweets once he was putting them. You, buddy,

loose eggs in the second half. That means you, you, they weren't a lack of courage of your convictions. There were two games where he didn't complete a pass. I know. It's hard.

I had to lay my guns down. I know. What did that got to do with Sam Darnel? Because winning Super Bowl MVP in a great game and having your coach cover with Gatorade as Malhams take shots down the field

and pad of staff does not necessarily make you bulletproof from here on out. Time now for the most motivational segment in all in sports of Budlis. Also time. We read some viewer mail. Christina went to the post office today in the freezing cold.

I said, Christina, you didn't have to do that. There's email. She said, I have to. I said, okay. Dear Wilds, love the show. Wow, thank you. Is it true that you're not doing a Photoshop today and just telling us the true story about your producer

looking to place Jackson Blade in a soap opera? Cheers, Ryan and Brian. That is true, Ryan and Brian. True story. Hubbs, our producer, came into my office, and he said, I'm working on something. And I'm like, what is it? Because, you know, there's not a real benefit to, like, keeping me in the dark about stuff. He's like, I don't want to tell you.

I'm like, no, tell me. I'm looking at casting calls for soap operas to get Brew to get into a soap opera as Jackson Blade. And I said, have you asked Brew about this? And he said, not yet. So would you be open to Hub's? booking you casting calls. And we don't know if you're playing yourself or a person who looks just like you. I got to be playing Jackson Blaine.

I got to be playing Jackson. That's a perfect soap opera name too. Yeah. Yes, I'm definitely. Hollywood, I'm interested. All right? It's not even far-fetched.

I'm an actor. Yeah, it's not far-fetched my IMDB page. People have checked it. It just says Chris Broussard as himself. No. It doesn't say Jackson Blade. It might assume.

Check it. Wikipedia. Wikipedia says Jackson Blaine. Okay. Time now for the Bud List featuring Chris Broussard is Jackson Believe. Here we go. Number three, the Pro Bowl. And I got some great things for you guys on this one.

All right. It's a tough spot. Now, I didn't choose to do it, but hey, we'll go with it. It's a tough spot because it's the most violent of the American sports as far as the mainstream ones. Well, UFC. Yeah, the top teams sports. That slap. What?

You can get injured. The last thing you want are star players or any players getting injured in the exhibition. So it's a tough situation. I get it. So now you got flag football. I used to say, you know what? When I was a kid growing up in the 70s, they had this show called Superstars, and I loved it. Everybody loved it where the top athletes would compete in various events.

And they should do that for the Pro Bowl. And their Pro Bowl has taken some of that, most notably the Tug Award. They got the Tug of War and all that. But what we as fans want, Roger Goodell and so on, what we want are we want who's the fastest, who's the strongest, who's the baddest, right? And so I want real, I don't just want throwing it at a target, moving target and all that. Here's what I want. A 40-yard dash.

Great. All right, and I'm going to say something after these. A 100 meter dash. Oh, 100, yeah. A bitch press contest. Who's the strong? Well, it could be either one. It could be one time max or it could be three reps, three times.

Three reps. Three times max. Or what about just how many times you could do 225? No, no, I want to, I want big numbers. Okay. Who can bidst four, seventy five, five, twenty five, whatever you do. That's what we want to see. I like, I like, we want to see Lane Johnson and and all these guys.

Miles Gary, who can bench the most. Yeah. All right. An obstacle course would be nice. That was a big part. That was a big part of superstar. What? Those who know, no.

An obstacle course was a big, that was fun. You have to climb up a wall with a rope. Like American gladiators? You'd have to sprint a little bit. You'd have to jump over some water. I don't want to be ruined this. They currently do that. Okay.

They jump through something. You're on a big mat. You're doing a flip. Okay. You're almost there. And for fun, well, no. What furthest throw? Yes.

Who can throw at the first? Can somebody throw at 80 yards? Whatever. For fun. I don't even throw this in. A dump contest. Now, there's not football, but hey, you know a lot of receivers running, they would love a dump contest.

So now you're saying, they're not going to compete, you know, up the money. Right now you get, I believe, 92 grand if you're on the winning team in the flag football game, 46,000 if you're on the losing team. Man, put some real loop behind it. A million dollars if you win the 40-yard dash. NFL can afford it.

500 grand. Right? I mean, seriously, you got to put big money. I need to get back in here. 500 grand if you win the bench press or something. But I'm saying put some real money in it where players will be incentivized to want to compete. And then we talked about it earlier this week.

Shadur, you know, some of these other alternates, they should not be pro bowlers. Now, it's fine for them to come and compete and a lot will want to, considering if you put these events in there, you can win big money. But you should have the original Pro Bowl team, even if guys are playing in the Super Bowl,

even if guys are injured, they can't go to Orlando, but they are the only ones who are considered pro bowlers in all the almanacs, pro football reference for historical purposes. Can I add a competition? Yes, pretty good. Yep. What about three on three hoops?

Then they got to gather teams together. We got to pick them. Maybe one or one. How about a home run? You could do one-on-on-one. No, well, then there's one-nine football. Anything but football. Anything but football.

One-nine content. I hated it, but apparently Greg did. All right. At number two, John Moran, we're going into the NBA. Yonis isn't the only one on the trading block. The difference is nobody really wants job. Yeah, that's strange. All right.

Now, three years ago, if John Moran, first of all, him being on the trading block would have been unfathomable. You're averaging 26 points a game, eight rebounds, eight assists the game, coming off a second team all NBA season. You're one of the most spectacular players in the league and a potential face of the league. You were a face of the league candidate. And now, Jai, like I said, market slim. You probably won't get traded by next Thursday because not many teams want you. with your contract and all that. Now, obviously you've had the off-the-court issues.

That's not the only reason teams don't want you. Obviously, you've had the injury issues. That's huge. You guys know in Jai's seven seasons, he has never played 70 games. He's only played more than 65 once. Okay? So the last three years, Jai, you've missed 130 games,

and it's going to keep getting more because you're out right now for at least a few more weeks with an elbow injury. But on top of that, Nick, on top of the off the court issues, on top of the big money contract, on top of the injuries, your game is falling off. Yeah. You're shooting.

Your average of 19 points. That's your lowest since your second year. And your second year, that was like, oh, wow, he's coming. He's 19 points a game. And you're shooting 41% from the floor, which is a career low. But as Nick said, 20, an abysmal, 23% from three-point range. Today's NBA that just can't get cutting. So here's what I want you to, Jai, you're blowing it.

Like Angelo Dundee told Sugar Ray Linder once, you're blowing it, kid. You could be a Hall of Famer. You could be a cultural icon, and people in America love a comeback story. That's true. You fell down, you messed up, but you came back and made it right and went to a higher level. People would love that. So you could be a cultural icon with your spectacular high-fying style of play. Here's what you have to do, though.

You got to, this off season, obviously jump shots, three-pointers all summer, three-pointers all day. All right, you got to work on your three, work on your strength, work on your nutrition, work on your condition, so you don't get injured. Obviously, you got to be better off the court and all that stuff. But you can do it, Jai, because you're only 26 years old. You still have time. I think of Steve Francis, I think of Michael Ray Richardson, guys who had Hall of Fame potential were superstars at one point early in their careers

and then fell off for various reasons. That's where you're headed. But, Jop, I believe in you. I'm pulling for you. I like that. I was good. I'm really pulling for you. All right.

At number one. Janus, all right, the man of the hour on the trade block. A lot of people, most people seems like in the league and around the league think he's going to get traded. What did I say? Janice and greased the wheels. That's pretty good. Was that Ramsey? Wow, I like that.

All right. But yeah, most people think you're going to get traded before next Thursday. And here's the thing, because everybody's talked about what Janice wants to go to New York. So, where the bucks, you know, bucks got to do what's best for them, though. you have a good amount of control over this, Janice. You have, after next season, you can become a free agent. You can opt out of your contract and become a free agent. You can sign in October of this year.

You can sign a four-year wilds $275 million. That's almost $80 million a year, all right? So you have control because no team is going to trade for you if you say I'm not signing long term there. So I'm Brooklyn, at some point we hope you get it together. But if I'm Yonis, I'm like, no. Why am I going to Brooklyn to be Milwaukee East? All right.

Atlanta Knicks team, I mean, I just, I'm not excited about Janus in Atlanta. All right. This is how Janus, you force your way to the Knicks. And here's the thing, because this is about your legacy. You're already a Hall of Fame. You're already a top 20-ish player of all time. But winning more championships, this is how you separate yourself from Yokic and SGA and Luca and all these other great players in this era.

This is how you move up in the historical rankings, all right? Championships. And if you could deliver to the Knicks, first of all, you stay in the East. So it's great to stay in the East. It's the easier conference you could get to the final. those multiple times, all right? But you stay in the East and everything you do in New York is magnified.

If you could deliver New York's first championship in 50 plus years, it would kind of be like two championships. Or two championships would be like three or four. Like everything in New York is magnified. So Janus, use your leverage. This is the team you want to push your way to the Big Apple and resurrect, save, bring the Knicks.

I'm even a Knicks fan. Bring the Knicks a championship, the first one in 50-some-odd-year. Yonnis, I believe that. That was a great budd list. Perfect. I'm going to go back to football, and I'm going to throw Sam Darnold up on the Budlis.

Sam Darnold played in the most important game that he had in the championship game, obviously against the Rams. We all saw it. 340 plus yards, three touchdowns. It was spectacular. You lit it up. There was doubt.

There was question what you were going to look like in the postseason. Can you be what's necessary and needed for this team that we all at least had top three in the National Football League all season long? Can you deliver the goods to where you get to a Super Bowl? Well, you did. And now that you're here. Need you to do it again. Kind of got to do it again. I don't think we really understand how good you were in that game

because we see the yards, but we saw the pressures and how you combated the pressure and how you perform. But third down, you were fantastic. A lot of the shouldered weight was put on you. This is what the game looked like in terms of third down. You obviously had 13 attempts. Seven of those conversions, you converted for 58. percent. Most of those were passes. There were only two running third down attempts of those

13 that they even allowed to go outside of your hands. So your coach, Clint Kubiak, they were like, you're going to win it for us. If we can put that back up, because I want to go to the, I want to go to the first downs. Nineteen of the 24 first downs were passing. That was a season high. So basically what the Seattle C. Harrow. said where we were in belief of, man, this defense is going to be the calling card. They were saying, darn on this about you. You have to deliver the goods. And you did.

That was the championship game. This is now the Super Bowl. And if you don't deliver the goods, everyone will still say, man, he only had it in them to do it once. Can you do it again? You don't have to match. that, I believe in you. This is why you're on the butt list. I believe you can get it done.

You can't convert or revert back to the turnover guy. You can't start seeing any ghosts. You're playing with a tremendous amount of confidence. Sustain that and deliver a championship. I know Wilde's, he will get over it. I'm a fan of Sam Darnold. I've always not this one. Somewhat believed in Sam Darland for the last two years.

Sam. That's a good one, Greg. Absolutely true. It's not 412 on a Thursday, actually, 417. So was it like a train? Like, we just missed it. Would you like me to skip it? What I call?

Do you think you need more time? No, mine's not that long. I just have one full screen. I think we have time for it. Okay. Time now. It's 4.17 and 22 seconds on a Thursday. It's time for a great segment looking at the whole sports media world.

It's called the Sports Media on Budsman. Check it out. So, Hall of Fame votes always kind of shine a spotlight on the media because even pro football of fame, vast majority, media members are the ones voting. And I am asking the media members that represent the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting contingent to please not allow the Bill Belichick controversy, the Bill Belichick snub to ruin what is our best Hall of Fame. and most exclusive

Hall of Fame because the exclusivity of the Pro Football Hall of Fame is great and I could prove that to you by talking about the Pro Football Hall of Fame or I could prove that to you by mentioning the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame

which has no resonance really at all anymore. At this point it is less of an honor to become a Hall of Famer and more of an insult to not me. Like what do you mean I'm not at least a possible basketball basketball Hall of Fame.

Like, have you seen the guys who are in and what we thought of them while they were playing? Again, all great players, but it has become the Hall of Very Good, plus Great, plus Legends, all in one room. And I already see some media members saying, you know what, for the senior committee candidates, instead of submitting three names, we should simply switch to a simple yes or no vote. That won't work, guys. because you know what's very easy to do? Yeah, I vote for him.

Sure. Vote for him too. Right. Why not vote for him? Wait, I can vote for all of the guys? Yeah, I do that. Well, I'm kind of a jerk if I don't. See, this guy's walking around with a cane.

He didn't make a bunch of money playing football. Like, he was obvious. Put him in. Yeah, I would. Everybody would. And the existence of the senior committee, while something I support, already allows for some shirking of responsibilities,

because what you'll see is guys who are coming up against their threshold of eligibility for the regular committee, who mean like, you know, as if the senior committee lets him in and not feeling like, hey, it's now or never for this person. And we've already seen massive mission creep. So the senior committee came into effect in 1972. From 1972 until 2004, that's 33 years,

24 Hall of Famers came out of the senior committee. Two, three every four years, essentially. From 2005, 2019, 24 more came out in 15 years. Then in 2020, 100 year anniversary, they said, you know what? Big anniversary, let's clean the books. They put 10 in that year. Since then, there have been eight more in the five years. And our guy, Valle Grigorian said,

I want three more this season. And once that happens, we all know this train is never late. Well, if Ken Anderson's a Hall of Famer, how is Philip Rivers not? Yeah. And what about Matt Ryan won an MVP? What about Ely? And then it's just not what it was. I understand it feels like a bummer to be that great and not quite make it,

but that is why it is such an honor for those. who do. I know people will want to massively change things because of the Belichick controversy, that storm will pass. The Pro Football Hall of Fame is great. We should keep it great. That's good. That was a good sport. Thanks, KW. I agree. I'm going to put Super Bowl favorites on the Bud list, and I'd like to ask Greg Jennings a question. Greg, as you know, is a amateur, natural bodybuilder, okay? A lot of aesthetics, mostly. It's not a power lifter. That being said, I do think that you lift heavy sometimes. Correct, Greg? Correct. Okay. The question is this. Give me an exercise. Let's say a bench press. Easy to,

easy to spot you. And I'm in the gym with you, spotting you. And you're trying to set a PR, personal record. Do you want me to tell you, and you're like, wow, I need to get pumped up, do you want me to say, Greg, you can do this? I believe in you. Or, Greg, you can't do this. This weight is too heavy for you. What would you prefer? Greg, you can do this. There you do.

Great answer. He's just trying to ruin your life. That's great. That's great, bro. I'm messing with you wild. I'm built different. I want to hear. I can't do it.

I want that. Of course. It's my theory on this graphic. Hey, Seahawks are four and a half point favorites in the Super Bowl. How have four or more point favorites done since 2007? They are two and five outright, and not one team has covered. So the fact that the Patriots are being told, hey, we don't believe in you, I think is an actual strategic advantage that has been a historical advantage for at least the last seven times this has happened.

There's no disrespect to the bud list, which does end with, I believe in you. But occasionally, you are like, I don't, you know, but maybe you should go even harder. If you really want to inspire a certain set of people, be like, you know what, I don't believe in you. I don't think you can do it. And maybe that will be the motivation that will cause teams to get to their next level or win the Super Bowl, or at least cover. You would not be happy. You would not be happy. You would not.

Oh, I don't want to cover. I want an outright win. Two and five. Yeah, I understand. I'm saying, I'm saying. Five outright wins. The cover means nothing to you. No, I don't.

No, no. No, the cover. I actually am going to put a sizable bet. You're going to bet huge on the Seahawks because of these stupid emotional. Yes. Either I'm, I'm winning something. Yeah. I'd like to call it right now, since I'm the guy who believes in repeats, but you're the guy who believes in three peats.

That's the problem. William, William Byron going for his third consecutive Dayton. 500 win. That's your guy? Well, I'm a Ligano guy because he's from Connecticut, but I think we're, we should have a few guys. I'll take by it. He's my guy. Shoot. You had it. They turned a 500 February 15th only on Fox. Welcome back to first things first. Head back to our conversation about Canton. Belichick snubbed in the backlash was so intense. The Hall of Fame released a statement saying they quote, respect the passionate reaction of many fans, media members, and enshrinees of the hall itself. Well, also reminding voters, if any member violated the selection process bylaws, action will be taken.

Dun, dun, dun, done. Fallout continues, Brew. Do you think the effects of, or do you think this affects the Patriots dynasty? Well, look, I still believe the Patriots are the greatest dynasty ever. Perfect. I know you did your list. I consider the Patriots from 01 to 2018, one dynasty. Like I consider the San Antonio Spurs that.

So I think, I mean, to win six Super Bowls, which is more than every franchise, except the Steelers who have six, and then to get to nine, which is more than any franchise period has ever been to, I think that's the best dynasty ever. And I'm one that was not up in arms about Belichick not getting in because of the spy gate. That said, I do think it has to affect the dynasty a little in that there, I'm sure that there are players today who are young who didn't even know about SpyGate. And even young fans who weren't aware of it, maybe it was fuzzy in their mind or something like that. This is just drumming it all up. The co-host of my podcast, DeMonsei.

Oh, okay, right. He's 27. And he didn't even know. I mean, he had heard, like, but he, the only real discussion he'd ever heard or been involved in Spygate was today on the pot. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, there's like, there are people like, wait, Belichick cheated? Brady?

Some of Brady's shape? And I'm not belittling because I said they're the best dynasty ever. But now people, it just puts in some people's mind some doubt that may not have been there or a mental asterisk that wasn't there before. and it brings all this stuff that had kind of been forgotten or certainly, you know, pushed under the carpet. Now it's back to the forefront. And so in that regard, I think it does diminish it a little bit, but I still think it's the best dynasty ever.

No, it doesn't diminish the dynasty. Like, and I can speak from a player's perspective. And you spoke to Willie Colon yesterday, talking about his experience with losing against the Belichick team through by three. Most players are going to look at that and say, man, y'all had a chance. Almost 100% of players are not going to look at that way and not say, man, they only got that because they cheated. They got that because they had a little advantage. We don't see it that way.

As competitors, you still have to line up in every. execute. I still feel like I'm better than you. And so when you look at what they were able to do, not once, not twice, not three times, six times. And the longevity, the sustainability of it, I'm sorry, you can never take that away. When you talked about kids not knowing, you think when they look up Bill Belichick and the history books is going to have a spy gate next to it. No. No, but I'm saying this is brought it up. I understand that. And it will...

Now they're looking it up. And this will pass just like Spygate did. It'll pass, but it's... It doesn't change how I view it because I live through it. You know what I mean? And him not being a first ballot Hall of Famer does not change

how I view him because I would have voted in first ballot. I think he's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. I think that... So here is the question I would ask you. And I don't even want to make it Chiefs. And this is a... Odd hypothetical, but walk me down.

I love this. Let's go 18 years from right now. Okay, 18 years from right now. And 19 years into Drake May's career, and Brable's been there the whole time. It's the craziest thing ever. They have the exact same win-loss record as Brady Belichick. Amazing. They have six rings.

They went to nine Super Bowls. They have the exact same resume. And someone says, and right, that's why I'm removing the chief from it. And someone says, all right, what's, who had the better dynasty? Oh, it's like picking between my children. Right. I love them both equally. I understand.

But so what I'm saying is if someone ever does approach it, because I agree with you guys, I do look at it as two separate dynasties, but. if you are saying it is won, it is unquestionably the greatest dynasty ever, no matter what. If someone ever matches it, this is where this applies. I do agree with that.

And that's why I said the Patriots. Like if Drake May and Brable get to nine and win six, and they have all the same accolades and there's not a single scandal, not a single blemish, then they get the tie goes to them. Hard to do it without any blizzard.

It's just us. And so that's where, you know what I mean? That's where I think it matters just a bit. I think that's fair. I would ask you, Greg, if I can't. You said if you were paying a team and you found out, you know, you don't consider it, you know, they still got to beat us. If you found out the next day after a game,

man, they had your blitz packages from filming, you know, illegally filming something. You wouldn't have been, and it was a three-point loss. And they didn't bowl you out by 25. I would definitely feel some type of way. Okay. That's what I would definitely feel some type of way. Ultimately, I feel like we all have each other signal. When we played in the Super Bowl, Troy Polymottle, he knew what we were doing, not because he was cheating.

He just watched the film. Yeah. He has the playbook on us. But if we had it on them. They didn't, that you had never used before, which happened at times. All I'm saying is at the end of the day, he's all of the day. Yes, that would have bothered me. It wouldn't have set well with me.

But I still ultimately feel like the competitor in me feels like I can be, I can be more than just excuses of, man, they had our, they had our bliss back. No, I'm not. No, I'm being, I'm being nice. I'm being nice. So Belichick would have two more rings. What?

If it wasn't for Eli Manning, who got two Super Bowls against the Patriots, Eli goes back-to-back years without a knock on his door. Is anyone starting to doubt he gets in at all? And just to be, I'm not correct to you at all. Like the knocks on the doors haven't happened yet. We're not supposed to know this either. Like this is also like the Hall of Fame's matter. Oh, no.

You know what I mean? Like the Hall of Fame, what? I know about it, though. No, I'm saying the Hall of Fame. is upset that this got leaked as well. So something's going on, like for whatever it's worth. I am doubting he gets in, and I don't think he should. He's not a Hall of Famer to me.

And I don't think all of a sudden it's about to, it's not like, oh, but in six years, we're going to have a weak class, and that's when we're going to correct it. Like, I, I, like, he played a very long time. He was an Iron Man, and he deserves credit for that and had an excellent career. in that very long career, the only category he ever led the NFL in was interceptions, and he did that four times. He played, he had 117 wins and 117 losses. He has two seasons where his team won a playoff game. Now, those seasons, they went 4 and 0, and he won Super Bowl MVP, which is a remarkable accomplishment.

But I view him as almost the threshold for very, very good player, Hall of Famer. I don't actually think he was better than Philip Rivers, and I don't think Philip Rivers is a Hall of Famer. So I don't, and I also think that if he was Peyton Manson, I'm sorry, Eli Manson, or if he played in Pittsburgh, if he wasn't a Manning that played in New York City, I don't think people would even really find it controversial,

that he's not a Hall of Fame. You're proving my point, because, and I've been a part of the New York media, and I've learned this. I did not know this when I was not in New York. I didn't grow up in New York. I didn't start my career in New York. Once I got to New York, I began to see this, how everything is magnified in New York. So in New York, they think Eli is unquestionably a Hall of Famer because he won two Super Bowls.

Outside of New York, I think most people feel like you. Like, he was a really good player. Yeah, he won two Super Bowls, but he was a 500. quarterback. He never made all pro. He made the play out six times in 16 years. Like, no, he's, he never threw for 5,000 yards. He never threw for more than 35 touchdowns in the season. Like, he was really good.

And I just think this is kind of a New York thing. And I think the last name helps too. And beating Brady twice. Yeah, yeah. So I do think as, as time goes on, it's just, yeah, I'm starting to think he won't make it because people outside of New York aren't as enchanted with the fact that they won two Super Bowls. I think eventually he gets in. Do I believe he is a Hall of Famer and worthy of it?

I don't, but I believe he eventually gets in because of everything that you're talking about. What's going on right now with Bill Belichick? And then the next topic is, oh, this is the guy that overcame Spike-Gate. A non-Hall-a-hauffamer. He overcame that and still won in spite of. Eventually, because of how the process is and you get to the back of the line, you get older and then it's like, okay, let's, you just laid it out. Senior committee, you just laid out. You laid out all of that.

So eventually he's going to get in. It's just a matter of time. I don't think that he gets in any time soon. When you look at who's up next year, the guy who came in in the same draft, Ben Rothensberger, he's, again, he's been. in the three Super Bowls, one, two. Just better. Stats are a little bit better. Resumé in the postseason is better.

And then Brady's up after him. I don't see him getting in anytime soon, but I think eventually he gets him. Did you, not to give you a pop quiz, how many interceptions he had in his career? Eli? I don't know that. Lots, right?

200 something, yeah. The two throws in the Super Bowl, I think erase all of that. I mean, the fact that he was. Do you think he's a Hall of Fame? Michigan, Michigan State tomorrow at 8 o'clock. I'm starting to see why Wilde's flag football team wasn't successful as we would have thought. What is that supposed to mean?

We are, well, I'm bringing in my trophy tomorrow. Number three, Michigan, number seven, Michigan State. Don't forget I have them going to the final four. Sam Darnold, Sam Darnold, he's got the stats, he's got the wins. He's the favorite now Brutel win Super Bowl MVP. Wow. But his subpar performance early in his career. in his career that you constantly remind us about.

Six years. Feels like it casts a long shadow over his recent performance. Josh ran the numbers from 28 to 2023. Those are bad, bro. Well, what do you want me to do? That's a rough guy. That is a rough cause. He turned the corner.

Josh, you shouldn't have done that, man. There were some choppy waters. The last two years, they've been great. I was ready to defend this guy. That is a tough last collar. You're mad at what he did in 2018? But through 23. That's a rough column, bro.

Six seasons. Come on, guys. That's wrong. You just did it to him. Man. So the question is, is he top 10? We're talking about now. We're not talking about three teams ago.

If he wins the Super Bowl, is he a top team quarterback? I'm not sure what the question is. To me, it's if he wins a Super Bowl. Oh, that's okay. If he wins a Super Bowl. So that's not what we agreed upon, but that's fine. It's already cemented as top 10 quarterback, but go ahead. You can prepresent.

Semented is too strong, but I'm going to say if he wins the Super Bowl, he's top 10. He starts next season as top 10. After the first six or so, and this isn't a cop out. It's fluid. I'm not trying to be funny. No, I don't know. It is fluid. Between so many J-Lo, Dack, all these guys that, depending on the season they have, they're in the top-to-law.

The six would be Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, Stafford, May, Burrow? Yes. Like that, so that's, so, I mean, listen, I think it's great. I, I, I think May is great. And May is getting the opposite of the Darnold curve. Having a year this great this early makes you feel Uber optimistic. He'll enter next season. So those, those top six are there.

Here we go. The final four to Bruce point, you have, and I mean, this is, I am in random names, okay? amongst Sam Darnold, Justin Herbert, Jaden Daniels, Jordan Love, Jalen Hertz, Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, Jared Goughf, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, did I say Jalen Hertz?

You did. Okay, so that's 10. Brock Purdy. Okay, Brock Purdy. Then there's a lot. But that's, I mean, but that's seven to seven, seven through 17 is there. Only four of those guys are top ten.

Yeah. I am leaning yes on Darnold. I was leaning further, before I saw that massacre of a graphic, Josh. He wasn't in the top 32 in anything. There's only 32. It's a long time ago. Two years, three years ago.

Gee whiz. Top 10, for sure. For sure. Yeah, yeah. Look, we can't see, we get stuck on what he was in some of the moments that he has. Like, Wilde's put it up there. It's been two great years. And it does help that it's with two different teams.

Two completely different teams. that helps him. And we, if we go back to Minnesota, it's like, oh, man, he got Kevin O'Connell. He had Justin Jefferson, Addison, T.J. Hawkinson, he had this great offense. Was it him? Or was it the offense? Was it the offensive play caller and head coach? Then it's like, you know what?

Let's go to a different place. All we said, I don't think he can do it again. He's not doing it again. Do it again. All of a sudden. All of a sudden. He was not that last year. He was really, really good.

But if Dallas could trade, and maybe you have DAC in, are cemented in the top 10. But if Dallas could trade DAC for darn it, that's a completely different question. What I'm saying, because there are two totally different quarterbacks. But right now, yes, you have to honor what he's been able to do in two different franchises for two consecutive years.

I just think he's matured. He's developed. Look, I think he starts next season in the top 10. Yeah, Holmes Mountain hasn't been in the top 10. He stays there. Damn straight. But he's also going to say he could fall out. Well, of course.

Rich Tapestry, and we've got to see how he plays in the Super Bowl. But what I would say is this. Forget top ten, which is two hands. You can't count on one hand active quarterbacks who have had a better game in a bigger spot than he had five days ago. I think Mahomes, Hertz, Stafford, Allen, are the only active quarterbacks who have played better in a game that big. I don't think I'm leaving anybody out.

And so that's, so that, that really carries huge weight, I think, fairly as far as where, what we think of him. If he follows that up with an awesome Super Bowl performance, then I think the only fair way to do it is just like I said and you said after the six it's fluid then I think we have to say after the seven it's fluid like if he lays

an egg we should probably do this tomorrow if he lays an egg in the Super Bowl then I think he's then he's still just in that squish does he get penalized like you guys weren't in the Super Bowl he's tier two this goes right back to what we were talking about the other day because of his success that he had in the championship game

oh I think he's going to be no we are still going to view him from the lens of what he once was because he did that so much early in his career. I would not go back to viewing him like I did a month ago. No, you can't have the game he had the NFC

championship and think he's just scared. If he lays an egg and they would just be like, okay, he's not elite. Or it's the, man, this Patriot defense. Wow, Patriot's defense pretty good. Shut down everything. They are really good. They are really good. And Sam Darrell, the Super Bowl.

Live from New York, it's First things first overtime today, is there an argument that the Patriots and the Seahawks are actually not the two teams that deserve to be in the Super Bowl? I asked for this question purely to try to infuriate wild trip before he left the building. At all. Meanwhile, what do we make of an odd interaction between Sean Payton and his quarterback? And I'll be, ah, shoot, I'm not in that segment. What were you going to say? Remember I got cut off by Dusty?

Oh, yeah. In the intro, give your take real quick on it. I think there's trouble brewing. And I think you are putting a seed that the team that falls off from first to worst. I'm putting a chip on the roulette wheel. I'm putting a chip on first to worst. No way. No way.

That would mean that the Raiders have to pop. No way. Fernando. They don't need to pop. The Raiders aren't popping. Third. Seven wins. Well, Nick happened last place this year.

And finally, it's a fresh edition of Frenemememones. All he does is win, win, win. Yeah, exactly. Just like, What of him? What of him? Exactly. And he doesn't even like him.

No, I'm just saying. I was like, listen, I'm about the truth. There's 15 to 18 coaches I'd rather have two. But here's why he's John Matt. I'm just saying. Winning games. It was a great. It was a great take that you didn't believe.

He did believe it. I believe it. I just, I mean, the dude wins. You can't be saying Burr doesn't believe it. The only time Burr has ever got mad of him, slam the tables. Don't watch you. Don't watch you.

I was like, I didn't know I was. I don't think I went that for you. Yes, you did. You slay him his table. I was like, what? And Nick was, I didn't even know I did. He just messed around. He just threw his car.

He's like, I foold. That's exactly right. That's incredible. By apologies. I love Syria. Everyone knows that. Head to Patriots practice. This is video from today.

Drake's shoulder is acting up. Earlier in the week, he told WEEI, say, I've been throwing the ball for 30 weeks now. We're so good. I'm deep into the season. I mean, I got a little bit. Every quarterback that's been in the Super Bowl has done that. Well, yeah.

I don't like hearing that. They're not throwing it with pinpoint accuracy like this guy and beautiful balls down the field. He didn't say that we're so good. I said that. But in any event, he met with the media today and talked about how he's feeling. Take a listen. You've ever candid, you know, get back to 100%. And I think a lot of people in the locker room would say the same thing.

Having a two week break, you know, it was nice to make rest a little more. and get back to get to know the Seahawks as good as I can. And from there, looking forward to getting, you know, out to practice and trying to transfer that to live, you know, game reps. I'm officially not worried. Nah. Perfect. I mean, I don't know.

Danny, should I be worried. I do not think you should be worried about Drake May playing in the Super Bowl. Right? He's going to play. I'm not worried about that. I looked up who the backup was. Josh Dobbs. Josh Dobbs, Tommy DeVito.

You know what I mean? It crosses your mind. And if DeVito got in. Probably will. Like at the end of the Eagles game. So I looked it up. But it's going to get a good legger there. No, if he has, we believe that this is real?

We believe something is going on? Yes, definitely. Okay. So if we believe that something is going on, he doesn't play the brand of football that would have you at 0% concern. He takes a lot of hits. Oh, yeah. He gets sacked a lot.

So, like, they just, if you think something is real, like, if it's something or nothing, if we say something, he's on pace to be the most sacked quarterback in the history of the playoffs. Like, we can show in terms of, like, most sacks taken in route to a Super Bowl, he has the most, been counting it since 82. Burrow, you remember, ended up with the most sacks ever because he took seven in that Super Bowl. So 19's the record.

He would have to get sacked five times for the most. But so if the shoulder injury is real and we know he's going to take a lot of hits in this game just because that is his style, then you should be a little worse. Throw that graphic back up if you would. Sorry, I should have said, please. But that is, I understand part of this is they didn't have a buy so they played three games. But what's stunning about this to me is the fourth most sacks ever taken root to the Super Bowl is half as many his drink is taken. There's only three guys that have gotten to the Super Bowl taking more than eight sacks. So, and what was he sack? 55 times in the regular season, a big number, and he runs the ball.

And so those are different hits. And he runs the ball. He's not Josh Allen, but he's closer to a Josh Allen running style than young Lamar running style. Oh, yeah. And that he will take a little bit. He'll take a hit. The Fonga hit is what exacerbated this. So here would be the reason I would be worried.

And I think you'll agree with me on this. I don't know who you're picking in the game. I don't think the Pats can win a game against Seattle where Drake May doesn't play really well. And so that's my concern. Now, I think he can play really well even with a banged-up shoulder. It's the Super Bowl. He's young.

He's awesome. But I don't feel Drake May. I think he's played 20 games this year. Right? He didn't miss any games during the regular season. I think if we stacked up as five worst, three of them were in the playoffs so far. Oh, yeah. And so I do not believe they have a path to victory Sunday with him playing the way he's played up to this point. And so barring a darn old complete meltdown, but I don't think that's going to happen.

I don't think you have the game he had five days ago and then a total CJ Stroud game. There's a difference playing like the 20-something best defense and the second best defense. No, I understand, but we've seen him play. Like, I just don't, I don't think Donald's going to have a horrifying game. No, I'm not put out, but if I just rephrase that of like, it's like everything is Drake versus the number one defense. Like, well, it's Sam Donald versus the number two scoring. Sure. So I don't, I don't think, I think there's a scenario where Sam Darnold is not effective in moving the ball where he's not playing a bad game.

Fair enough. But what I'm saying is I think for you guys to put up 24 points, Drake's going to have to be very good. And so certainly for you guys to put up more than that, I think he's going to have to be excellent. Not saying he can't be, but that's why I would be concerned. Yeah, look, he's definitely playing. I think he'll be fine.

It may be bothering him some, but I'm not really concerned with that. I'm more where Nick is. He's going to have to play well, because I don't think you guys are going to shut out the Seattle defense like you have these other teams. Because the Chargers, particularly with their injuries, but period. The Chargers, the Texans, and the Broncos with Jared Stiddlem were mediocre offenses, okay, or even below mediocre. All right? This is one of the best offenses in the league, and it has been absolutely lights out in the playoffs.

You know, the average in 36 points score 72 and two games. So I think you guys, I'm not saying it's going to necessarily be this shootout, but y'all going to have to put up some points. So Drake's going to have to be very good. And if the shoulder hinders that, we've seen Baker, the difference between him healthy and him with a shoulder injury. So hopefully that's not the case with Drake, but he's going to have to be good for him to win, I think.

Do you anticipate yourself being more or less worried by game time? Is your confidence in this going to improve and get worried? I was going to do this all. the air but I'll do it on the air. Great. Transparency. What I believe in what is best for the show might be two different things because I went into the Denver game and said, I do not think this is going to be close.

I think Drake May is going to light up the Denver defense. It didn't happen. My feeling about the Super Bowl is I don't think this is going to be close. I think Drake May is going to light up the Seattle defense. Wow. I don't think that's great for the show. It's great. It's, what do you mean?

Can I tell you? But that is what is going to happen. You really think that's going to happen? You think the Patriot is going to route the Seahard? By the time. Why would it be bad for the show? Yeah. Yes.

Just because it feels like a carbon copy of the take I had for the AFC championship. No, but you being loud wrong, this is great. And we didn't really get to revel in your loud wrongness because of the Patriotian. it's won. Yeah, and it's a revel in my not wrongness for the entire year. But you just said it. Your hypothesis on the AFC championship game was wrong.

Yes. But they won anyway, so there were no, it didn't matter. But you're asking, is he going to be more or less worried? By the time we get to Friday, Wilds is going to say,

in his parlance, give me one chip on the, the take roulette wheel of 31 to 3 Patriots. What? I was kicking around ideas. Because, as you know, this is a lot of like behind the scene stuff. And first thing's first overtime. Next week, there's just one big game and we've got eight, you know,

no, 15 hours worth of show to fill. It gets a little bit tough. And I was going to kick around. Passing Yards record on the board. I told you. It's just like Brady's against. Yeah, it's like 500. It's 500.

Yeah. No, he's going to brew. No, I know. Because no, who could have to throw for like 450 yards? Oh, the second MVP against the same, the MVP candidate against the same defense? He threw for 300 yards once this season. Again, a lot of things you don't have to when you're up. I just think it's a little disrespectful to Seattle, not?

A little. If Drake May's shoulder was 100% fine. You're going to be in their pregame tape. I would love it. Okay. They're four and a half point favorites. They're in the driver's seat. I would love to be.

I would love to be. I would relish that. Tom Brady was on Seattle Sports 710 with Brock and Salk and said this about the Super Bowl matchup. Take a listen. After one game, you see pretty quickly, you know, kind of the dominance of the defense and kind of the methodical approach of the offense, the run game, the big place in the passing game. The explosive special team plays. You guys have been watching it all season long. So, yeah, there's no doubt to me the best team in the NFC is playing in the Super Bowl. That's for sure. Danny, do you agree with that? I absolutely agree that Seattle is the best team in the NFC.

And I think that the Patriots are the team that won the AFC and have an argument to be the best team in the AFC, but really no argument to be the second best team in football. It won't matter. like if they win, you win the Super Bowl. It doesn't matter. Like what wild card teams have won the Super Bowl? They're the champions that year. Right? I mean, you wouldn't even give them,

if they won the Super Bowl, you wouldn't just say they were the best team this year? I'm annoying that way. He would say they had the best season. Yeah, they had the best season, and they were the champions. I told you this is why we're doing this. The only reason I feel that,

I feel like the 18 and one Patriots, are the best ever and they didn't win the Super Bowl. Correct. We all know that. There's a little bit of that I, I, I can rely on. I can realize. That's a team that was the first ever team to be 18 and all.

They set record. I mean, Brady threw 50 touchdowns like that. That didn't, that to me doesn't apply to this. I'm just trying to, but go ahead. I just, Seattle is not. I appreciate it. It was like kind of an olive branch.

No, listen, I think that these teams are both very good. I've thought that Seattle was better all year, so you could call it confirmation. bias, but part of it is the numbers and part of it is watching the games and part of it is who you do it against and the circumstances. And if we do the tail of the tape between the two teams, they're pretty similar between Seattle and New England. And this is including the playoff run just because if I do it in the regular season, the points per game number for New England is a little better. But I actually wanted to include the playoffs because you're playing good defenses. You're playing better teams, right?

You only played four playoff teams in the regular season, four games against playoff teams in the regular season. Seattle played eight. But if you look at it, I think we would all agree the team on the left is better than the team on the right. And then when you also then adjust for the path at which they got there, both through the regular season and how much of a heavyweight fight that felt like between Seattle and the Rams,

the blowout against San Francisco, C.J. Stroud having one of the worst games of the year on the Broncos side of it. And getting by Denver with the backup quarterback. They made him have the C.J. Stroud stuff is the C.J. Stroud stuff, I think, is the most dismissive. Because the Texans went into that game on a 10-game winning streak. Yeah. People had the Texans cooking the Patriots. And then once the Patriots defense proved problematic for C.J. Stroud, all of a sudden, C.J. Stroud was not good anymore.

Well, listen, I don't know about all those people, plenty of things that I did on this show being like, if C.J. Stroud could be the top half quarterback. I said he was the Jordan love of the AFC. If he could be average, their team was ready to win a Super Bowl, and he wasn't average. C.J. Stroud was pretty bad this year, and then he was awful in the playoffs game. And he was bad in his first playoff game too. The Steelers stuff, him looking bad, actually somehow hurt the people. No, definitively, that's what I was going to say, because I understand your frustration, like, hey, we were out there. helping cause those turnovers. Yes, you were.

The problem was we saw CJ in the game against the Steelers look like he was ready to have a four turnover half that game too. And so I think that colors it a bit even if it's unfair. I mean, and CJ Stroud had like one good game the second half of the season. He was not very good this year. And so I just, I think the Seahawks path here has been a tougher path. and they've been more impressive in it. I just think that's, isn't that objectively true? Yeah, but I agree with that, but you don't think the Patriots

are the Patriots are. I think the Rams are. Right. So you were looking at it like that. Okay, I didn't know who you were. Yeah, yeah, I thought the Rams. I got some nuance to, I think Seattle's definitely the best team in the NFC. I'm divided by conferences.

All right. That's how I'm going to too. Yes. Yeah. I do think, and I know they got blasted in the playoff game, I think a healthy Niners team might have given them a run for their money. You know, they beat them in the first game

and the season was close. So maybe that, but I think, I thought they were better than the Rams because of the first two games that they split, but the turnover difference and they still were close. So I think Seattle is definitely best in NFC. AFC, you guys were certainly the most balanced team. Buffalo, great offense.

Defense was okay. obviously in the playoffs not that good. Houston and Denver, great defenses, mediocre offenses at best. So I would have picked Buffalo over you guys. But beyond that, my main thing is I think, even if you want to say you guys are more balanced between offense and defense than the Texans in Denver, I think the Texans should have beat you had CJ just been average. Had CJ just been average.

Well, why wasn't he average? He should, I give you some credit, but a lot of it was him too. It was like, it wasn't all y'all. It was some him. So if CJ had played better. Honestly, I don't even know what that meant. I think they outplay, like their defense had y'all locked up. I know Drake made the great throw, but I think they should have beat y'all.

And I think Denver with Bowdox beats you. Drew, Drake May is the only quarterback all year who threw three touchdowns against the Texans. We scored 21 points. I don't know how. and we were running the ball in the end of the game at will on them to salt away a victory. They did not have us locked up. For the most part, they had a, what's for the most funbles? They forced fumbles and there were the issues.

I was more, I thought the Bo Nicks thing is where I thought you were going to go. I think they beat you with Bo Nix. They almost beat you with Jared Stiddle. I think the Patriots defense is playing by far their best football right now, which makes them feel like a more complete team. And this is a, I don't expect Patriots. fans to like this, you feel a year ahead of schedule, but you just got into the Super Bowl, which is amazing. And maybe you'll win it. Like that does happen, but I think the best Patriots team

is still coming next year and the year after that. Maybe. That's interesting. I have a surprise for you, KW. Go for it. So I did it like Brew did it. I different than Danny. And the, because I agree with you. That's why I wanted. I was like, who do you think second best team is? I thought, I agree that if there were no conferences, I said, you and I both said before, we thought an NFC championship game was the Super Bowl played like that. I do think those were the two best teams this year, but that's not how I looked at it. I'm sorry to interrupt. The Rams had the, I believe, 26th or 28th best defense since Thanksgiving.

KW. I don't understand how that can be just disregarded when it's a bad game. And so it's a hypothetical, so I guess we won't know. I think that my lean is a week out that the Rams have given the Seahawks their toughest test this postseason by a lot. And that would be, that'll be, if, you know, if the Seahawks play the Patriots on a neutral site

and beat them by 10, and they beat the Rams by four in Seattle, that would maybe be a checkmarking the argument of, Seahawks' Rams were the two best teams. But we won't know and we'll see how that plays out, but I'm going to just say something that I'm not trying to have that argument. NFC clearly the best team was Seattle,

so check that box. I think the fact that New England has gotten subpar quarterback play from the best player on their team that their defense was thought that it might be a bit of a paper tiger

coming into the playoffs and instead has been utterly dominant that I think Mike Rabel did a better job in the AFC championship game than Sean Peyton, that they have avoided like these massive

cataclysmic errors that when you roll all that up into a year where the AFC teams that we historically believe in, the Chiefs Year from Hell, they're not in the discussion. Ravens, Year from Hell, they're not in the discussion. Broncos,

I thought all of the same yeah, budding we could do about the Patriots schedule. We do the Broncos about the Patriots defense. We could do the Broncos offense going into the year. And then they played in Denver. I get that it was the, you know, the backup quarterback thing I can do about it. And Patriots played Buffalo twice and, you know, it was even money. I do think they were the best team in the AFC this year. I didn't see it coming. I didn't pick them to cover any of their playoff games. I thought they were going to lose to Denver. But I do think we got the right Super Bowl this year. I don't always think we get the right Super Bowl.

Like, I don't always, I think it's not rare, but it is more often than not the best two teams, the best team from each conference doesn't usually make it to the Super Bowl, particularly since they've eliminated the double buys and there's been a little more variance involved. I like that. But I do think we got the right two teams in this game. I do think that. Coming up in two Mondays, did the Patriots really win the Super Bowl? Should they give Mike McDonald the trophy since when you think about it, really, when you look at the yardage numbers and take out a field goal?

Thanks for hanging out with frenemies. We go to the NBA. There are reports out of the Bucks camp that Janus is looking to get out of Milwaukee. And of course, there are some big time suitors, the heat, the Timberwolves, the Knicks, the Warriors, among many teams that will have interest in the two-time MVP. The trade deadline in the NBA. One week from today, 3 o'clock Eastern, Janus hasn't played since the Bucks lost to the Nuggets on January 23rd with his calf injury.

So, Nick, among those teams or others, where do you want to see Yannis go? All right, let's start with these teams and then we can kind of open the aperture a bit. All right. I think that, because I don't think any of these teams are the best place for Yannis, and I don't think any of these teams

can make the best offer for Yannis. But I also think, I think the heat would be a disaster for Yonis. And I don't love it for Milwaukee unless you adore Bam. But I don't even know that Bam. If Bam wouldn't be in the trade, then it makes no sense for Milwaukee at all. Kellel Ware is a piece that they like a lot in theory. Heroes from Milwaukee, they can trade like four firsts. But it's then Milwaukee.

Yonis is just in Milwaukee South. Like the heat are not demonstra, after trading for Yonis, are not demonstrably closer to a title than Milwaukee. So that, to me, I would cross off. The Knicks and the Timberwolves have no picks to trade, none, just a few swaps they can do. So that one doesn't make sense. So of these teams, Danny, the Warriors, I get it, and it would probably be Butler and Kaminga for Janus, maybe Kuzma, for salary reasons, and then all the picks. Just send all the picks.

and I support that for the Warriors because if you have one of the 15 greatest players in the history of the sport and he's still really good, you should be all in every year. So you keep going for it with Steph 2030 be damned. But I don't love it because I don't think Steph Janus Dremont is a title team. I think it'd be fun. I think they'd be better than they are now, but I don't think it's a title team. And so I don't love any of these. I don't know where you land on it before we get to other teams.

So listen, the basketball romantic in me hopes that Milwaukee and Yanis figure it out. I have one possible thing in the back of my mind where it could happen. It probably won't. Of those teams, I think it is very exciting to dream about Janus and Steph playing together and Janus and Ants playing together. The Warriors have more that they can offer. The Timberwolves would have to do, like the drafts. Pact picks would have to be players. They would have to trade like Jada McDaniels, Julius Randall, right?

So like Milwaukee would not be getting the draft capital back. So I assume they're not going to want to do that. So I don't love any of these teams either, though the basketball fit that is the most interesting is Stefan Yannis playing together. But I will say this just to pivot it for a second, and I know you have trades for teams outside of this. Milwaukee shouldn't do this now. They should wait. And it will be bad for discussing. and it might get a little awkward and Janice might have to really be the bad guy which he doesn't seem to want to be and publicly demand to trade if this is going to happen in the next week.

But this is said to be one of the great NBA drafts in terms of depth in history. You got the kid from BYU to Bainste, you got Darren Peterson at Kansas, you got Boozer's kid at Duke. It's an unbelievable draft. You should wait.

You should figure out where you are drafting because you have the worst of two picks between New Orleans and Milwaukee's. So if I'm running Milwaukee, I'm holding Janus out. So you're not trading him and you're not playing him? Correct. Listen, I know there's, you've won three games without him. You could be the worst team in the NBA without Janus the rest of the way.

Sure. New Orleans is arguably the worst team in the NBA. So those two picks could be, you could have the worst of the two picks could still be a top five pick in a loaded draft. And then you can say to Janus, all right. We can trade that pick, which is very valuable, to get another star to come here if you want to stay in Milwaukee. Or we can trade you to load up on assets after the lottery when we know where we can build around this. Because I think all of these names that people are throwing out and you can do your trades if you want, it's not enough. Like the players that I've seen mentioned for Janus, like if Vijay Edgecombe becomes available from Philly,

that's interesting, like a young all-star caliber player. If Jalen Williams is available from the Thunder, that's interesting. But most of these guys, you're talking about 60 cents on the dollar for Yonis. Well, that, I mean, but if you wait until this summer,

then he, see, this is where I really disagree with you. You wait until the summer, he really does get to pick where he goes. Because if you trade him now, the team trading for him, gets this playoff run. with him and the next one.

You wait for this summer. He's an expiring contract. He's got one year less than a player option. Right, which he would obviously decline. And so that to me is a very risky game. I want to be the reason I like, if we throw up the Atlanta trade, just real quick, the reason I like this trade is Yonis gets to stay out east. I think that that team could be a sneaky contender in the east.

and Milwaukee gets their picks back. So to your, that would help. To your point, they get, they would in this year's draft have their own pick and the New Orleans pick, because they already have the worst of those two. And Atlanta has the better of those two. And next year, they would have their own pick back because Atlanta has that already. I just think that's flatly not enough. I just, I don't, I don't think it's particularly close to be, to being enough for, for what Janus is still.

A top four player in the NBA. So why do you not want them to trade it? Well, listen, part of it is the basketball romantic in me of being Dirk, being Duncan, being Kobe, and playing for one franchise the entire time. And if you're going to have a top five pick, we'll see what Hollins becomes over the course of this year, Janus, and a new coach, and what else you can do, there is something to him being there this whole time. And call his bluff. Make him be the bad guy.

He doesn't seem to want to be. No, but I, but the, you keep saying the basketball romantic in you. Doesn't the basketball fan in you want to see Yonis play in big games? Yeah, but I mean, listen, the, a healthy Yonis, things have not worked out with injuries for them at the wrong time in playoff series. Yes. And they now don't have a lot of assets. And so they are in trouble. But they're, yeah, they are.

But if he's not going to demand a trade. The best thing for the Milwaukee Bucks is to trade yonis. That's where I just, like, their contention window is over. And where I, Duncan was a spur forever, but Duncan, you won a bunch, I understand. Right, and they were awesome late in his career. Yeah. Kobe was a Laker forever. It got tenuous a number of times, but they won five titles before it went sour.

And Dirk, they won their, his title. late. Yannis has so much prime left, and they are, they went all in three times to build a contender. They won one championship. And then Miles Turner as a final. And so I, but when you're saying that's not enough, that New Orleans pick, it is right now about as valuable of an asset in and of itself as Janus is to the league.

Like, I don't think, like, I, the, you got to know where it lands. I, I don't think they are going to get what, it seems like what you're describing is the type of haul, who's the last player to go for the, like that, what Anthony Davis went for. Yeah. I don't think those trades exist anymore. I think I, he's a unique talent. And because of how long I do think he has left in his prime, you need to be asking for young. all-star caliber talent and every draft pick and every pick swap.

There should be four pick swaps added into that tradeoff. But what are, I guess I don't know the team that threads the needle of. Yannis would be interested in going there. They have that player. They would be contenders without that player and they have their draft picks. I just don't, but the thunder, the thunder would have to really have a bad playoff run. And then it could be available and it obviously would have to be this off season.

Let's get to the NFL. The Eagles are still looking to fill their offensive coordinator role. Kevin Petulow was fired now two weeks ago, a little over two weeks ago. Reports from Adam Schefter say that if they can't find an OC, Nick Siriani will take over the play calling. Nick, what do you make of the fact that this job is still open? I mean, it's an indict. Eagles fans, you're never going to like me.

It's fine. Leave me alone when I'm playing poker in Philly and with no hard feelings. It's becoming a two-way. thing with you and the um it's an indictment on your head coach or your quarterback maybe both certainly at least one of them my read on it is this has a lot less to do with jalen hurts and a lot more to do with the lack of job security for nick seriani i think that the best offensive coordinator candidates think um that head coach might be fired in 12 months and then i'm fired in 12 months, so I don't want the job.

I think that because a team with this much talent, with that with much, you know, is one of the most prestigious franchises in the league. The team spent a ton of money, great ownership, great GM, and you get to call plays. Like, it's not an offensive coordinator job like the Broncos one's about to be where it's like, you're the offensive coordinator, but you're, what is that? Not that it doesn't matter, but you don't get to do the coolest part in calling the place. it has all of that. And the fact that they can't land a guy means either people have questions about Hertz

or more likely I think they have questions about Nick Siriani, is Nick Siriani almost a lame duck coach? So being a successful coordinator for Nick Siriani has been pretty good. For how little he's been in the league as a head coach, Brew talked about all of his success earlier. He's also launched three head coaching jobs, right? Kellan Moore, Shane Steichen, Jonathan Gannon. So the flip side of that is go to Philly.

There's a ton of talent. You're empowered. You could be a head coach and start making eight figures a year to coach. So they'll fill it if they want to. If I'm Philly, what would scare me about this is Nick Siriani is on the record. And sure, he could have improved at this in the last couple of years. Like the idea that like, well, Nick Suryani will just take over calling plays. That's not a good idea.

No. But he himself, we use his own words, when he gave up the play calling duties, he talked about what I noticed was I wasn't communicating enough with my coaches. Hold on. This perfect timing. The Eagles have hired an offensive coordinator. Oh, okay. I was going to, is it a play caller? It is Packers quarterback's coach Sean Mannion.

Yeah, Zach Berman was writing about him as a guy that they were focusing in on. Okay. Okay. So listen. So Siri I is not going to call plays, I would imagine, which is good. It also, to me, I don't know. This is, I am not going to act like I've done a ton of Sean Mannion research. But we know the guys who were interviewing for head coaching jobs as OCs or promotions there,

the Davis Webb types that's like I might get a head coaching gig or a bigger offensive coordinator job from being the quarterbacks coach. I listed yesterday 12 people the Eagles had talked to to be offensive coordinator. Sean Mannion was not one of them. Now, one way to look at it is we are thorough. You know what I mean? Another way to look at it is Brian Dable said I'd rather go to Tennessee with Robert Sala in Cam Ward, which did happen. And we know that Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel would rather go to L.A.

Your guy. Right, to L.A. he took himself out of the Tampa job and the Philly job. For Mannion, it gets to call plays, right? He was under Matt LaFleur, good offense to be under, and go there. And, yeah, Nick Siriani, he has had a lot of success being the CEO type coach, right? I do not think you want him bogged down and calling plays. So, hey, they filled the job.

So they filled the job. All it took was they were like, listen, if they're doing frenemies on this, we've got to announce it. We're not that toxic. We have to announce it. I want to, it literally, yeah, I mean, it literally, the news broke 90 seconds ago. So there you go, right while we were doing. All right, well, great. Perfect. Perfect.

We always have breaking news on the OT. Yeah, there you are. Parsons trade. That 5 o'clock Eastern hour is key for big breaking news. That's 100% true. They trust us to handle it here. And as soon as we do, we'll bring out Willie Colon and Greg Jennings to discuss. Nick, another winning edition of front of me is for me.

Thank you, sir. All right, we got Greg Jennings and Willie Colon out here on the OT. We go to Denver. Broncos head coach Sean Payton took to the podium on Tuesday. He spoke about Bo Nix's ankle injury. He suggested it was due to a, you know, predisposed condition, and it was a matter of when, not if. That ankle is going to fracture.

Interesting thing for a coach to say. Bo Nix would not describe it as interesting. He was not thrilled by his coach airing out. What he said is not exactly accurate information on his medical history. Take a listen. Nothing predisposed, nothing that was there originally. That might have gotten confused. confused. But, you know, it was just a simple step when my, my foot up in the air. My body weight

came down on it. Sort of got twisted up and was just one of those missteps. And didn't have any predisposed issues. Man, my ankles were feeling really good. I don't think he really should share how many surgeries I've had in the past, to be honest with you, because he doesn't really even know that. So obviously, you guys are the players. You've dealt with injuries. You've dealt with coaches. I'll just tell you as someone who's covered this stuff for a long time, this is very abnormal. Coaches go out of their way to say as little as possible about injuries. And like Sean Peyton's a Parcells guy, which is a Belichick guy. So like even like on the spectrum of sharing things, they're supposed to be really quiet about this. And it even struck me as a little

strange when Sean Payton came out after the divisional round the game when they said that Bo Nix broke his ankle. If you remember, I had him pull the clip because he was transparent that Bo Nix was out for the season, but then he also shared this little tidbit. Take a listen. He said he had one in high school. And then he said he had one at Auburn. And I said, I didn't realize that. I said, if I don't know that, I wouldn't have drafted you. Nervous chuckles there. I assume that's a full-blown joke because teams know they're draft picks medical history. They know everything about you.

Right. They know everything. But like, am I reading this incorrectly? Bowenix has a legitimate gripe here. Does he not? Okay. Am I wrong? Tell me if I'm wrong.

No, because I'm wrong because, yes, coaches do protect their players. But I just don't see the crime in it. Sean Payton has always historically been a straight shooter. Yeah. I think if I think the crime is only warranted if he knew this was a sense of issue for Bo Nix, meaning like, hey, if, if, if Bow's ankle was an issue in high school and college and now the pros and Bo's like, man, I don't want this out, I don't want this thing, kind of this thing about me. Let's keep it hush hush. And Sean Payton violated that. Sure.

But if he's just talking, which he has done in the past of being kind of just free of the mouth and not being. Right. And not being logically thinking about the impact of what he's saying. I don't, I don't see the crime. I don't, I wouldn't take it as like a, a, a, I'm a, knock against me. Like it doesn't, I don't think the defenses are going to now target Bo Nick's ankle. I don't think it's a situation where it hinders his play. He's going to be back. He's going to be ready for the start of next season. So I think it was more of an old man, nevertheless, speaking freely. I don't think it's like a knock or something, a long-term plan of eventually getting rid of Bowdox for whatever reason because this ankle could hinder him

winning in the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? Am I wrong for thinking no. I have a response for you. Go ahead. So what I would say is, In defensive bow, like, coach, like, you know how this league works. The optics aren't great if you continue to elude that, man, this is one of the same ankles that I hurt in high school, then I heard again in college, and then now again, it's like, well, the idea of him being a injury risk moving forward hurts me when I sit down for the most important contract of my career. Totally understanding.

Like, that's where I feel like, Bowles like, come on, what? I'm okay I broke my ankle it is what it is I'm in the building I'm going to rehab I'll get back I haven't missed any time as a starter like what are we doing you're you're divulging too much information it's a need to no basis and you you as a head coach you harp on that to us you've been in like you know how it works yeah yeah don't speak on another players stay out of his wallet don't speak on another player's contract situation injuries because if they want to speak on it That's one thing. But if I'm speaking on it, why am I speaking out of the side of my mouth?

It's not me. So Bo has every right to step up and say, no, no, no, no. That's not it, man. So if Bo Nix next year after next year can only negotiate with one team and it is the Broncos. So even if Sean Payton knew this, kept it in house, they could still use it against Bo Nicks privately in contract negotiations. But publicly, if he broke his ankle in high school, college and the pros. And he says, you know, I'll be back in four to six weeks.

I would definitely have some concerns about paying bow necks. But to your point, you already know this is a thing. This is already his type of situation. But I didn't. Like Sean Payton maybe did. Like the Broncos general manager and their medical staff maybe. If he had chronic issue, the building knows about it. They just didn't talk about it until Sean Payton released it.

Yes. But to your point, no one else really is going to even try to search through for that information. If he's bawling, he's been to, he's lost in the wildcard round, and now in the championship game, well, he didn't get a chance to play, but he got his team to a championship game. And so next year, we don't know what happens, but say he continues to trend in the right direction, be a decent player.

And he's looking at $300 million. And it's not the Broncos. The other 31 teams aren't going to be like, well, wait, let's see. Your history, I remember when you came out, you had an ankle injury. No, what they're going to do, though, is remember what Sean Payton just did and said. And so that's where I feel like it hurts. But as a player, you're going to always defend because we're labeled and deemed something always to knock the value of where we should, what our earnings should be. Now, I get the aspect.

You don't want your coach sitting up there acting as WebMD. I get that. But nevertheless, I feel like it doesn't hinder you from still doing your job. If you're telling everybody, you're going to be ready to go. If anything, this is motivation to show that I'm the man for the job and I can't produce and move forward within my career. So I don't know. I didn't see the crime in it. It sounded like a coach that was just speaking freely.

Obviously, I totally acknowledge a point. You don't hurt my money by kind of putting a red tag on me. And listen, if he's really going to be back in four to six weeks, there's a lot of time for Sean Payton and Bo Nix to mend this fence between mini camps and OTAs and August and training camp and all that. But I was shot. Because it was unnecessary. He called his own presser. I don't know what player has that access.

I know I'd never had that. I mean, he's like, I want to write. is wrong. My ankles are not fragile. I'll be back. Like, that was breaking news after your team gets eliminated. Got a new offensive coordinator in Philly. We discuss on the O-Tid. We have breaking news out of Philadelphia. The Eagles have an offensive coordinator, and it is Packers quarterback coach, Sean Mannion, just two years removed from an eight-year career, nine-year career, excuse me, in the NFL, former third round pick by the Rams. He played under Sean McVeigh played under Kevin O'Connell, also Kevin Stafansky and Clint Kubiak,

highly thought of offensive mind in Green Bay, never called plays in just 33 years old. What do you think, Greg? You like to hire? So it's an interesting hire. Obviously for Sean, this is a great opportunity. When you're looking at what he has to work with, quarterback and Jalen Hertz needs to be a little bit more efficient. That's kind of the coaching point of emphasis, if you will. When you look at Jordan Love, Malik Willis, and their ability to kind of thrive and develop and be efficient, they both were.

So you kind of expect that to carry over. You just don't know what you're going to get in terms of how he's going to approach play calling because he's never really done it. But you're excited about it if you are Sean. What a come up. Yeah, absolutely. I'm looking forward to seeing what it ends up being

because he has a clean slate. He's never done it before. He has a coach that's going to support him that has called plays before in Siriani. So we'll see how it turns out. Wasn't that knock on Kevin Petula? Yeah, I had never called the place. So we hired the same guy?

Younger. Is that where we at? Like, if you were Jalen Hertz, this is about evolving in office that was ranked 19. And prior to that, you won a Super Bowl. The issue right now outside of this office line is getting Jalen Hertz comfortable within the system that he can grow within.

This does nothing for the Eagles. This is a bad hire. Well, listen, I, he's never done it before. What could go wrong? A 33-year-old who's never done it before in Philly. I'm sure they'll have patience. It'll be fine.