First Things First - 
Chiefs beat Colts, Cowboys beat Eagles, Shedeur Sanders wins starting job, Patriots on top?

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

(0:00) Chiefs beat Colts, Cowboys get graded after beating Eagles, Concerns for Philly? (28:39) Shedeur Sanders named Browns starter, Ravens beat Jets (43:20) Rams beat Bucs, Time for Nick to abandon ship? (48:08) Chiefs have best AFC odds for the Super Bowl, Should Eagles fans be concerned? (01:09:53) Patriots 1-seed in AFC, Concerns with Shedeur Sanders’ comments? (01:23:51) Ready to write off the Steelers?  (01:29:37) Eagles collapse or Cowboys comeback, Time to take the Bears seriously? (01:54:15) Browns beat Raiders, Rams the best team in the NFL? (02:04:04) Faith in Ravens & Bears fall or rise? (02:11:04) 49ers on upset alert vs. Panthers?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Live from New York. It's a show that it's in first place, not among shows, but in the AFC. Yeah. Actually, in the whole NFL. You have the best. We've got 10 wins. His team's in the first place.

You're in the first place in the division. Yeah, the chiefs are through. When he says the show, he means him. He could, if he wanted to say, if he meant everybody, that's true. He would have said it's the show

that went undefeated this week. What went on? Yes. Chiefs, Patriots, Ravens, Bears for Danny. Also, that's true. The Titans covered. Well, got one point. Got one point.

More than me. Yeah, bro. I bet on Nick's bucks. That was a rough one. First hour of first things first. Today, Kansas City avoids missing the playoffs, we think. And all of a sudden, they've got the third best Super Bowl odds. What?

Meanwhile. It's unbelievable. Cowboys win, Eagles lose. Can Dallas make a playoff run? And are the Eagles? in trouble. And finally, Shador starts and wins and wins the starting job

announced today. Gabriel's healthy Shador will start. Did Cleveland finally find their quarterback? It's been 40 guys. I'll tell you one person who definitely thinks they do. Should have. Hey, that's half the battle.

Absolutely. That's right. You got to believe. Very confident that they found their own. It's worked out for them. Nick Wright, Kevin Wilde's Chris Broussard, we are starting in Kansas City. Yeah. The back on track chiefs, too much too late for the Colts. Mahomes not just 235 passing yards in the second half to rally his squad from a 20 to 9 deficit as the defense shuts down the number one offense in the league.

Here's Patrick Mahomes. This is exactly what we needed. To win against a really good football team and the game's not going your way, you could You could have folded in that situation and kind of been kind of the rest of the season. The guys responded and then found a way to win on every single unit. I mean, offense. We found a way at the end defense stood tall multiple times to give us chances. And then Harrison and Arise did a great job flipping the field and making field goals.

So we needed a win like this and now let's just try to build off of it. All right. How did Kansas City pull this win off? By being the damn champs. And they're not the champs of the league, but they are the champs of this conference. True. They have won this conference three years in a row. They have won this conference five of the last six years. They have been to seven straight conference championship games.

And their season was not going to end at Arrowhead before Thanksgiving at the hands of Daniel Jones. And it was on the brink. Yeah. Danny, if you people watched our walk-in video, I watched the game at Danny's house, and he made it sound like I was on my hands and knees praying during the game. That's not true. I was, however, dropped to my knees multiple times in agony during the game

because I was in dismay that this season could end like that. And it didn't because even though they had, have not played like it throughout large stretches of the season, they are a great team. Because every aspect of the team is how they were

able to pull themselves out of an 11.4th quarter deficit against the number one offense in football. The defense was phenomenal the whole game. The whole game the defense was great. Chris Jones got the crowd going after the Cream Hunt fumble

and Andy talked about that. Patrick talked about that. The other players talked about that when everyone seemed down. He got him going. Jonathan Taylor did nothing. Tyler Warren, who's supposed to be already as a rookie, the best tight-in in football, barely heard his name called. In the fourth quarter and in overtime,

they were able to do nothing. Obviously, everyone on offense in the fourth quarter and overtime contributed. Cream Hunt made up for the fumble and was excellent. The whole game was excellent. The fumble almost

spoiled it all. Xavier Worthy on third and seven for the season maybe comes through. Rishi Rice I mean here's the third and seven to Xavier Worthy just a potentially a season changing

play. Rishie Rice, after really being quiet since the suspension after game one, up to and including the first half of this, was phenomenal. A fourth and three play, a 47-yarder, multiple plays in overtime.

Noah Gray caught a critical pass unconscious. He was not unconscious and somehow kept the ball. And obviously Patrick, and that was not some great Patrick game, but it had great Patrick moments, made the plays that needed to be made. And that's, by the way, Patrick's fourth straight win over his kryptonite Big Lou. They're not pretty, but that's his fourth straight win. and to the rest of the league, I would just say, man, like the great Omar said, you come at the king, you best not miss.

I feel like that should be reserved. You had an opportunity. Well, listen, maybe, except for Lamar with respect ain't the king. And they had the chiefs on the mat. and all 31 other teams, franchises, fan bases, or I guess all 30 other, were rooting for the cults. Because no matter what the numbers say or the record says, the five and five chiefs scare everyone so much more than the eight and two cults. So they wanted the chiefs eliminated and they could have been, but they were not, Drew. Well, yeah, look, it remains to be seen if they're still a great team.

We'll see the rest of the way. But what they showed was championship medal to the point where they, you cannot count them. In fact, beyond that, if they are still alive, they are the favorites in the AFC. They might be nine and eight and limping into the playoffs. But especially this year, when you look at the way everybody's looking, they will be the favorites. And they showed you why. The way they did it was they posed the question. that everybody around the league is wondering,

or at least was, I think maybe now people feel like they have an answer. But the question was, can Daniel Jones beat you? Yeah. Because they said Jonathan Taylor's not beating us. Correct. They shut him. He was three and a half yards of carry. I think he had 60 some odd yards on 16 carries.

Like they shut him down and said, let's see if Daniel Jones can beat us. And he couldn't. 85 yards, I think he had in the second half, 83 yards passing in the second half. And to your point, the defense of the chiefs, every year in the playoffs, it seems, or at least certainly the AFC, their defense is not ranked number one, but it does end up in the playoffs looking like the best defense in the league,

or at least the AFC. And last night or yesterday afternoon, when they had to be the best, they play, I mean, four straight, four and outs in the fourth quarter and overtime, like no first downs, that is incredibly. incredible. And so that was a big part of it. And to your point, Rishi Rice, like, he is, this is what I expected him to play like once he got back.

Now, maybe a game or two of Rust, but like you said, he's been silent for the most part. But yesterday, 103 yards after the catch, just to put that in perspective, Christian McCaffrey leaves the league in yards after catch, averaging about 55 a game. So he basically doubled that in a game. I mean, he was fantastic. And when you've got him, like you said, worthy, then Kelsey, you always have to worry about yesterday. It was Noah Gray.

Like, it's just hard to stop them. And so, and then you throw in the running game. If they're going to get the, at Kareem Hunt, I know he doesn't break long runs. But he is a tough runner. You know, he's not quite what he was earlier in his career. His first stint with the Chiefs. But he is a tough runner.

So that's all they show. Nant said that in the game. No, they're more effective than the push push. They're better at third and one and fourth and one than any team in the league. Quickly, did the Mahomes interception, goal line interception bother you? It's a little bit of a defensive compliment that they actually were in the teens. You don't count like a one-yard drive. It's a great play.

But come on, guys. How? Oh, I just stumbled into it. We're bad. The brand list. He's stronger than ever. The legend of T6 gross. Another tackle that turned the time.

No. No. I mean, give me a break. I mean, I don't know how many. You should have a highlight real. I'm just telling you. And I mean,

Mahomes, we can do the Mahomes, Earth, thank you, KW. This is, I mean, it's his great synergy. He put it on the line. He threw the wrong shoulder. I mean, it was a terrible play.

It was a terrible play. I'm so glad you asked. SKW. And we can show you Mahomes, you know, not immediately after this, obviously, but Mahomes up to when they were down 20 to 9, and then moving forward, his numbers.

Now, the passer rating's capped because if you don't throw a touchdown, your passer rating actually can't be higher than like 110. But 250 yards, 10 yards per attempt, all these critical plays. And it, of course, was the polar opposite of Daniel

Jones before and after, going up 20 to 9 because here's the deal and this is why people are skeptical. Early in the game, Daniel Jones, one could say, oh, he was carving up the Chief's defense. Man, Bruce said it. Every aspect of the game plan was, Jonathan Taylor's not beating us. We'll see if Daniel Jones can keep this up. So he's getting great looks or, you know, great fronts to throw in and was somewhat successful early. And then, of course, late.

He was playing okay early. He's playing fine, but then late in the game, they inexplicably put the game in his hands, where on those final four drives you're talking about, Brew, three runs, nine passes, three of nine for 17 total yards, which does mean the Daniel Jones Magic Act added a new element, a disappearing act to it. And in fact, we have something as well, which is Greg Jennings. Live on the banner. Live from the banner.

Greg Jennings talking to us, Greg. It was a rough one. How was that watch for you, buddy? It was, you know what? It was reassuring, to be honest. Like, it was very reassuring. Look, man, to follow up on what you just were saying, Daniel Jones going through for nine late in the game,

I felt like, you know, it wasn't just solely on Daniel Jones. thought when you look at the way that they were playing in the first half, they were executing on first and second down. They failed that. Pittman had a crucial drop. Well, it wasn't really a drop. Cook knocked it out of his hand, but that got them behind the sticks. And then you had the third down to judge down.

Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg, what do we do? It was, it was, I'm not, I'm not going to bash him. Well, I played poor late. I mean, they put the game in his hands, Greg, and it disappeared. They had to.

They had to. It wasn't just Daniel Jones. I'm not going to just blame Daniel Jones. I hate it. This is disrespectful. This is not. This is. I give you credit for showing up.

Here's the thing. Yeah, I mean, but it is, like I said, a disappearing act. Oh. Come on. Sorry, Greg. That was just. Hey, he tried to ride with his guy. I mean, what are you going to do?

I mean, what are you going to do? Chiefs next up, Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Very short turn around. We're going to head down to Dallas where they're going to go. the Cowboys aren't giving up on this game or their season. They mount a 21-point comeback, ties the largest in team history to ground the birds. Over 350 for Dak in the air.

Here's Schottenheimer in the locker room that everybody loved. Hey, we got a lot of cool to celebrate, but I got a question first. Can you win the game in the first quarter? No. Can you win the game in the set corner? No.

Did we spot them 21 points? Yeah. What about, hey, can you win the game of third quarter? No. What about that? I don't know about that. It's better than Siriani ripping off Kurt Signetti's trademark this team's ever played there. Drew, time for your Cowboys grade.

Well, look, early on, I was thinking, oh, here we go again. Yep. Right? For the first quarter and a half, it was like the Cowboys, every time you want to believe, they end up disappointing you. You know, they show you enough to get you excited and then don't deliver. A tease is what I've called them.

But then they came on and they delivered in an outstanding fashion. Look, Dak had another strong game. Javonte Williams obviously played well. The defense is playing well now. And stopping the run. Yes. What they hold them to 30-something yards rushing? 63 yards rushing up?

Right about Sequin's season average. Yeah, I mean, they did a great job defensively. And George Pickens, I've been toying with the idea of, is he really their best receiver? He has been this year. There's no question. How much of that, though, was C.D.'s injury? Well, more of it is CD's drops. Yeah, that's fair.

He's dropping way too many balls, particularly against the Eagles. And so there's really nothing to do but give them. I give props where they do. Oh, and... Here we go. Run it back. A game. The largest comeback.

A game. The yellow sea. A game. Another playoff. A game. A with and read. A game. The offense clicking.

A game. That lamb and picking. A game. Defense ball out. A game. Jerry's so proud it was another A game. A game. A game.

A game. A game. You know I said Cowboys We got a little nervous You had a little nervous You're throwing a little bit A little nervous

Props to the Cowboys Great game We pricked it I thought they'd win But I didn't think They win in this fashion Correct You and I both oddly

Picked a three-point Cowboys victory They won by three But neither one of us thought It would have the Evan flow of this game. Now, I will say this, even when they were down 21-0, it felt like they were moving the ball

because they were. You know what? They had the end zone pick. They had some, I don't want to call it bad luck, bad execution. But the Eagles defense, which had looked so dominant the previous two weeks, did not look dominant even in building the 21-0-lead. It looked very

opportunistic. But the story for me about the Cowboys being alive, however alive they are. The Cowboys yesterday in this Cowboys season is a Dak Prescott story. Dak, we can show you his numbers, but it's more than just the numbers, which are almost across the board, top five in the NFL. To me, Brew, I am more impressed with DAC this season than I was Joe Burrow last season.

And again, it's, again, it's eye of the beholder and it's both were. His numbers aren't. Super impressive. His numbers are not quite as good. That is correct. But I also feel like that Dax's heavy lift of, unlike Burrow last year where he has the same head coach, the same offensive coordinator, the same pair of receivers he's always had, you know, where it's a new head coach, new ish offensive system, getting pickings involved, dealing without CD Lamb for a month, all of that. To me, I just watch him week in, week out, and I do feel like if we are grading on this season alone, like no reputational bonus, aside from Stafford, I don't think anyone's playing the position better than him right now. Again, if we were to remove all context of who they'd been up to this point in their career, all of that, I just think on a week-to-week basis, he's playing that well.

And so I give him a ton of credit. And I thought, you know, he has, and we just kind of dismissed it, particularly at home, owned this division. Yeah. And you. 19 straight home division wins. It's 19 straight. It's second only to Brady. 22 and 2.

2. I think 22 and 2 overall. I didn't know it was 19 straight. And how did they tie the game with Dak who doesn't run much? That was a great. Right. Absolutely. be like, now is a moment.

Like Josh Allen out. Turned it back. And so I just, I thought, I agree with your grade for the team, but I just think DAC has been phenomenal this season. And legitimately, to me, has an argument for that second team all pro. If that's less of a wins award than MVP. But like first teams right now looks like it's going to be Stafford. Drake May has an argument, obviously. Drake will probably be second.

Probably. But I think DAC has, Dak, to me. grab some MVP votes. I think he'll do the We have to make the playoffs. They got to start winning. It's the same thing as Burrow last year. They didn't make the playoffs.

They got some. This Thanksgiving game. Fifth spot is kind of a could go to. Yeah, it's like, you know, he's a great individual's team. Didn't play well, but like Burrow did last year. There's a chance that they're, and we're not working on Thanksgiving,

but it's either A or F game against the Chiefs, it feels like. I feel like it's going to be fascinating. I mean, they might bring their A game and lose to the Chiefs. You could bring your best. best game and lose to the Chiefs. You could, and they also, listen, maybe. I mean, the Chiefs are better, don't you think?

Yeah, one game better. Well, not even a full game. I mean, they're right. But I'm just saying, like, if both teams play their best, I mean, Vegas clearly agrees with Brew, because the Chiefs are three and a half point favorites in Dallas. Here's what I'll say. That is far from an easy game.

What I also think is, I was. just a moment on the Chiefs in regards of this game. I was really impressed by the Colts corners yesterday. It's their first game with Ward and sauce, obviously, which was their idea. I think that whatever issues the Chief's offense has, we have seen them solved when they go up against bad back-ins. So that would be my concern for Dallas in that game. But Quentin Williams has been great.

And listen, Dax, quarterbacks that can actually sit back in the pocket and dice you up have given the Chiefs trouble, and Dax certainly can do that. All right. On the flip side, the Eagles gave up 21 points. For the first time in 25 years, gave up a 21 point lead.

They've allowed others. They've given up to 21 a few other people. I called this the faulty boiler game. How about that? What's that mean? Super hot than ice cold, you know, you're going to shower. After being up 21, four punts,

a missed field goal, a fumble, and another punt. Here's Jalen Hertz. You know, at the end of the day, it's about executing. You execute what's called. You go out there and you try and bring that to life. And we executed well in the first half and obviously a lot of things that we can control that didn't go the way we wanted to in a second. In the end, we had an opportunity to win the game and we didn't.

And so we got to own this one. Let it light a fire in us as a team and stay together and move forward. All right. So here is the NFL's record when leading by football. 14 or more, 89 and 9. The Eagles, 2 and 2. What was the number one reason for this loss, bro? Look, I just gave the Cowboys an A, so I don't want to take anything away from them.

You can't. And this isn't the sexiest answer. You know, people will want you to write off the Eagles. They're done! They can't do this. They can't do that. Here's the truth. They relaxed.

They relaxed. after scoring on their first three possessions and holding the Cowboys to zero points, they relax. That has been their M.O. all year, right? They're up, they're down 26-7 to the Rams. Let's turn it on, do what we got to do to win. They score 26 unanswered points.

Tampa Bay, they're up 24-3. They relax. Give up, what, 19, what, outscore from there, 19 to 7 in the second half. Denver, they're up 17. to three and it cost them. They relax and give up 18 fourth quarter points and lose the game. And I feel like this team is for some reason in a mold where they do, now they didn't win

yesterday, but their mentality is kind of subconsciously even. We do what we got to do to win. Green Bay, they only gave up seven points, so they scored only 10. Detroit, similar situation. I just think that, now, look, don't get me right. They got issues. The offensive line isn't nearly as good as it used to be. Sequin is doing nothing.

You know, Jalen didn't have time yesterday. But my point is, I still think they are arguably the best team in the NFC and the league, in fact. But I just think they let foot off the gas. Next thing you know, we're in a game and we can't get it back. So I understand that. And I think in certain circumstances, I would agree with you, particularly in a game where I thought the infanticons, your team was going to win and not because of some huge indictment of Philly.

But the way this game played out feels differently to me than that, KW, because here's my biggest takeaway from the game, which is also the biggest reason the Eagles loss. A.J. Brown is correct. Correct. You're correct. That A.J. Brown is correct. That there is something wrong with the offense. There is just something wrong with it. And their total inability to put together four short,

straight quarters, only the Titans have more scoreless halves this season than Philadelphia. We have shown you repeatedly their three and outs and the drives that ended in punt list, which we could show you again. Again, the only team in the league that's going three and out 30% of the time. And look at the quarterbacks on that other, you know, the rest of it. The drives ending and a punt, again, you go to where Philadelphia is. and you look at the court. It's the, they have, they, the Eagles drive is as likely in a punt

as a Titans drive this year. Now, in fairness, a lot of those Titans drives that they don't end in punts. They end in turnovers. Hey, hey. Um, no, but still, like that's, that's jarring. And the fact that they were that good

on the first three drives. And then not only that inapt, but that conservative, it was like, I thought the end of the half, was a real signifier that part of what's wrong with this Eagles offense

is the person most in charge doesn't for some reason fully trust his quarterback because to not try to you clearly trust Jake Elliott's leg you had him kick a 56 yard or later his rationale on giving up with 18 seconds left from right around

the 30 was the Cowboys kicker has a big leg you don't want to leave him time the math doesn't work on that you know what I like there's With 48 seconds left, it's actually more defensible. You know what I mean? Where you'd think you'd want to be more aggressive there.

It's like, hey, we're in control, and we could give them to. But there was no way the Cowboys kicker was going to get on the field unless you thought we might turn it over. And then one other piece, and then you go, KW. Jalen, the sack Jalen took with two minutes left was an absolute killer that can't happen. Like in a tie game. And they blew through that. offensive line. Well, but that was, that sack, he had four seconds.

I mean, he took the sack after four seconds. Yeah, it's a different. Yeah, it's a different. And so you're, it's, and obviously, Sequin is just not going to be good this year. I think you have five yards before contact. But I do think KW, there is something wrong. Well, to quickly, if I can, to your point, once they got the lead, they started playing not to lose. Yes.

And that's, that was shown at the end of the half. and I think that's what they do. If they're behind, they've got to start playing. If they're ahead, they said, okay, let's settle that. Let's just not lose. And you can't do that against an offense. Are you saying that's a player's mentality thing or a play calling thing? Because I'm arguing that it's a play calling.

I think this year it's largely a play calling thing. Because I think Plutula deserves a lot of criticism. Because I think that's a bad. So here's the headline I asked Dusty to pull. This is starting to make the way around Philadelphia. the latest collapse, Eagles have no choice but to replace Kevin Petulow. That might be extreme. We saw the bills do it a few years ago. I like to be a try to, you know, win-win.

Last year, Dean Peas came in. Remember to help the Ravens and Zach Gore's staff. Doug Peterson said he would be open to coming back. No OC worth his salt. It wants somebody to come in like that as a consultant. I mean, I guess you might do it to save your job. Well, it is what they did it with Matt Patricia and the defense changed. This is pre-Vic Fangio. So they have a history of bringing in a consultant. Remember, it used to be either bad at stopping the running, got bad at the past, or vice versa.

Something needs to happen. Can I, can I, sorry. No, that's it. Nick Siriani's an offensive guy. He can't do it. He's got to do something. Other than. Other than Stack wins.

He wins. No, I get it. But I'm saying, I don't think it's right now, I don't think it would be fair, realistic to say, Nick Siriani, if we're stacking up all the NFL of coaches, just has too much on his plate. Like one of the reasons that means, like you bring in, like you said, Patricia, that's not his side of the ball. Harbaugh is a special teams coordinator, so he really is just like oversee the operation.

He doesn't have a specific side of the ball. Siriani is an offensive guy. But he hasn't done it. Well, Stuyken did it for two years, Brian Johnson, Kellynne Moore, and then Petulow. So Jalen always has this revolving door of OCs, and you start to see identity-less football. How are we playing this year? How we played last year, two years ago? By the way, if A.J. Brown wants to keep his street going of causing mayhem, he should post, like, the happiest Instagram.

I hate to say it, AJ Brown, no content for us. No. It was right. It's right. 100 T.R. It's just purely. Just pose rainbows and such. That's good.

The hands are what really sell it do. Cowboys. We're going to go on tour. Podcasts back to number five in the entire world. I got to jump in the chat on YouTube again. Wednesday. What did we do the chat, John, Thursdays? I'm not doing on Thanksgiving.

Also. So quick update, no big deal. Just the best game in all of college football. Number one, Ohio State heads into Michigan for the game. All starts at 9 a.m. It's also the last time Ohio State lost. That's correct. Yeah.

Three hour big noon kickoff live from Ann Arbor. Then it's Michigan, Ohio State at noon only on Fox. Dusty, we've got to get somebody in to discuss that game. See if Joe Clatsaville. Maybe get Tom Brady. He went to Michigan. Tom Brady. Yeah.

Bruce prediction has come true. Baltimore has won five in a row. Ravens are now atop the AFC North after dispatching of the hapless Jets 2310. Lamar. Just say eh? But Derek Henry had two touchdowns. Here's the standings. First place, Brooke, you called it.

Classic one. Are you feeling good about your first place Ravens? Okay. Here's the box. You tried to dampen my spirits, Wiles. And I see Nick over there rolling his eyes. If I'm supposed to come. coach just poo-poo a W.

This is five straight wins now. I know they didn't look like world beaters, but I'll take it. Okay. And here's the thing that really cheered me up, Coach. I said, eh, they didn't look great. I said, eh. I got yelled at. I haven't thrown any touchdowns in a few weeks.

I think he's only got one or two since he's been back from injury. But then I said, let me just do a little research. And I found out this is. what the Jets do. They muck up the game. They make it ugly. So you beat them, but you don't look great in doing it. Pittsburgh, Nick's favorite NFC team, Tampa Bay, and Denver, coach, they each beat the Jets by two points.

Your patriots, who you think are the best team on God's Green Earth, they beat the same Jets a week ago by 13 points just like my rabies. So I'm supposed to be upset. Well, I trust that Lamar will find his way. I trust that Derek Henry

will find his way because the defense coach is still cooking. So you know what I did after I realized all that last night after the game? I came in to the studio by myself. Late night? Oh, wow. Tried on the robe coach. Oh. Still fits.

still feels good, still looks fantastic on me. And I thought is today the day. Well, they're in first place. They are in first place. Over 500. That's a reason to do it. But no. Wow.

Not yet. I told you it's got to feel good. Beating Joe Burrow on Thanksgiving. That would be reason enough. That could be. That could be. We'll see. But I'll take it.

Coach, a W is a W. They're all professional players. even on the Jets. They are. And I wanted to be more excited than I was after watching that game. Because they're your pick too. Yeah, they are my pick as well. And playing against Cleveland, I understood them struggling offensively.

Cleveland's really good defensively. Lamar had the injury designation. Things weren't lining up perfectly for the offense. And I thought, okay, if they're explosive against the Browns, then they're really back. And then I thought, okay, now we've got a week. The offense has been playing together. This is going to look different against the Jets. And it didn't look different.

And then we go in the first half and we're down 7.3. So there's that problem. On third down, they were two for 11 on third down. The red zone, that's been a problem, was a problem again. Two for five in the red zone. That didn't look very good. And so collectively, you'd like to see more progress. And I'm with you.

I expected him to be leading the division. and the hole they dug themselves wasn't insurmountable because of the way the Steelers are playing. It's just you want to see some more progress. I think I know the problem, Coach. And this is a tough one. Drew, you've called the Ravens a lot of things over the years, but they're not one of the silly teams.

Correct? You agree? They're not silly. They got rid of all their games. Well, right. So wait. They are not silly. But I would like to go to why those games,

existed to begin with. They're not a silly team, and you're at work. Like when Google is like, hey, we have all these cool things, you know, in the office, there's a reason behind it. It's for recruitment. You know what I mean? And so to get the best people and then also get people stick around at the office longer. I think the Ravens are a mature team.

I think they're a veteran team. They're not a silly team. And yet they brought all those games in the locker room. It might have been for a reason. And if you go back to the article when they were taken out, you'll read that it was a little controversial when they were taken out where they write, from a player's perspective, the recreational activities helped break up long days and out of the locker room to breathe and relax even for a moment. From an atmosphere that demands intense daily focus, the fun stuff is gone. This is a low blow. I would then posit even further, Brew,

that the person that needs the monotony broken the most or the tension broken the most is the person under the most pressure, Lamar. So my hypothesis is this, Chris Broussard. The toy toss that transformed the tacklers is also the toy toss that tarnished the offense. They need it. The offense needs it. They have not been, I don't know.

And if you look at the numbers, Brew, the offense pre T7 and post T7, it's a precipitous drop. And Lamar in particular, pre T7 and post T7. So is it possible that unless we bring back pop a shot, we're not getting that explosive Ravens offense? Is it possible that after a tough practice, Lamar needs the video game?

No, this is the only problem with your theory. Well, beyond the fact that you're, Your last word didn't start with tea. Yeah. It was awful. You need a thesarist for that. But Lamar is the one that tossed the toys. Yeah, but maybe it was a rash decision.

And he didn't think it'd be the toy toss that tarnished the thrower. That could be. We're back. Here's, look, I'm just speculating. Because we've talked about he's not running anything like he has. he's not getting away from guys the way he used to. He's not even looking to run, but when he does, you know, he's not able to shake guys. He didn't hit the corner yesterday when it looked like he could have scored.

I don't know. He's had the hamstring. He says he's healthy. And the ankle. Like, I wonder if there's something. I mean, he can obviously play, but it's just hindering like his speed. Yeah, but luckily he's a better pastor than Prime Drew Breeze and Peyton Manning. So it doesn't matter.

And these days aren't like 12 hour days now, fellas. Guys come in like eight and are gone by five. It's not like maybe they'd stick around a little longer. You could play a little steep ball. Yeah, he'd like me to stick around. Ravens. Lamar versus Joe Burrow coming up on Thanksgiving. They're going to have some offense in that.

Shador won his first start with the Browns. 209 in a touchdown highlighted by this 53-yard bomb. He leaves with the win and the starting job. Defancy said Gabriel is cleared, but Shador will start. Here he is post game. And like I say, just because I didn't get The summer reps, you know, just because I wasn't in the best situation for me to be prepared to go out there and execute, like, from a summer standpoint, that's how life is. You know, everybody's not in the right, everybody's not in the best situation, you know, but there's no excuse.

You got to go out there and perform. There's no choice, no question. Nobody cares if this was one week of prep. Who cares? you know so a lot of people want to see me feel and that ain't going to happen we're impressed by shadr's debut as a start i answer i'm going to make a request coach because we're going to talk about shador again later in the show we're going to talk about shador's comments later so i know this is you know i'm chumming the water but i'm uh so listen i was impressed that he was fine he was

totally fine and it was a lot of pressure on him to just be fun And I thought he was fine. I'm not the, and I think this is the right decision. And the reason, even though I've never been a big believer in Shador, right, we cut it off before Jerry Judy started deadlegging into a turnover. I have never, you know, I was not very high on Shador coming out of school. I haven't been as high on him as others. But the reason I said, coach, that I thought they needed to make this change before we knew Gabriel was hurt. when we argued about a couple weeks ago,

is I believe coach that Dylan Gabriel is close to zero percent chance to be the long-term Brown starting quarterback, and I think he is at a literal zero-percent chance to be a long-term plus, like, oh, we have a really good quarterback. He's not winning the super. I just, I think he is, I think he profiles as an awesome backup. You know what I mean?

Or like a fine, right. Yeah, stop gap, back. backup. And I think Shador has a 5 to 10% chance to be a good long-term starting quarterback. I still would need like those 10 to 1 odds

to bet on it. But if I'm the Browns and I've been searching for this since you benched Bernie Kosar and shout out to Bernie by the way, who's doing a lot better we've heard. Very happy for him. I would roll the dice on the guy with the higher up side getting a look at him before I have these draft picks.

And so that's my takeaway on him starting. And the fact that yesterday I thought he was just fine, which is what he needed to be. Yeah, and there was no doubt he was going to start. The owner told us he was going to start when he got drafted. Like, this is as clear as it could possibly be. And it's not like Dylan went out and lit it up to make such a compelling argument that you wouldn't want to see both guys. And I think that this is the natural progression of things.

But in terms of yesterday, so he did have the 11 completions, which that's a nice number, but the Browns had 10 sacks. So he had one more completion than the Brown's defense had sacks. And he had that nice rollout, long throw, which looked exactly like he looked in Colorado, which was fantastic. And I think he'll do a lot of that. And there's only one sack, the over under, I think in Vegas was probably like five or six. I don't know. I mean, it was Las Vegas, so it might have been down a little bit. So there's that.

And he won his first game since 19. 1995 with Eric Zier. The first starter. Yeah. And I was there in 1995 with Eric Zier. I was at that game. We were up by 10 with two minutes and 51 seconds left Cincinnati kick to field goal, got the onside kick, sent it in overtime.

We won an overtime. Yeah, the whole year was kind of terrible. Shut out to easy. It was the year we moved. But Eric Zier, great guy, had some similar, I'd say, skill sets to Shadour and didn't have, you know, the best pro career. It's a nice career. So I'd say we're going to see some more games

against better defenses, and we'll see how it progresses. Yeah, to your point, Coach, I mean, this is where I thought it would work out. I didn't think Gabriel would get a concussion, but I thought Chador would get six games or so to start. You give Gabriel six or seven, and then Chadur some games. So it's the right decision. The owner, of course, but the fans. Right.

And I think the locker room coach, and again, we're not saying Shadour was fantastic, but he created some excitement that Gabriel just. That look on Miles Garrett's face after the long completion does speak to something. I mean, yeah, so I agree with you, Nick and that Gabriel is going to be probably at best a backup or a stopgap quarterback. Shadour has more upside. Whether you think he's as good as Gabriel at this moment or not, he has way more upside. and he showed that yesterday, he had three passes that went for 35 yards or more. Two of them were legitimately deep passes.

And then the swing pass. And then, yeah, the one that went for the touchdown. And that's, I think the Browns had one, not I think. They did have one pass for 35 yards or more or completion all year. And that's with Flacco playing several games too. So he just brought an element of big play possibilities that they haven't had. the rest of this season should be about

seeing if Chador Sanders could possibly be our franchise quarterback next year. Like I think Stefansky should craft like the offense to the degree he can at this point of the season around Chadour's strengths and see

could he be our guy next year? At least enter the season with a legitimate chance to start next season. If he's terrible over the next three or four games then maybe you put Gabriel back in. I would give him that legitimate shot. That's all this left in the season, plus Miles Garrett's sack record.

And if he's great, does that end Stifansky's career in Cleveland? Well, the interesting, I do think that, look, You think being good would hurt Stafansky? Yeah. I think it could end his career. I was going to say, now I think Stifansky is a very good coach, but I agree with coach, like,

if he, if Shadour lights it up, or, you know, plays well the rest of the season, it will look like people are ready, feel like Stavansky's been holding him back. I think the term is screwed. If they lose games, Staphancy's out. They win games.

DeFancy's out. Rams are rolling 34-7 over the buck. Stafford's on fire. Another three-touchdown game. That gives him 30 touchdowns, only two interceptions. And after holding the bucks to seven, the defense is now the best scoring defense in the league.

Nick, Baker's out. Waiting for results. what he's getting shoulder checked out today. You had this team going to the Super Bowl. Are you thinking about abandoning your Tampa Bay to the Super Bowl take? Really? Oh, thank you. I know there's a lot about take integrity in those bylaws.

Yeah. I mean, I'm allowed to. Really? How are you? Starting quarterback injured. Everybody knows that. It's true. I'm just letting you know.

I don't know. I don't know. No, no. We'll see. You are right. Thank you. out for this season, or if he's out for a month,

or plays and is severely hampered like we saw it happen in Cleveland. It was based off my belief in Baker, and now everybody's taking shots because you guys have been just waiting. Coach lives in Cleveland. Didn't like the fact that Baker was getting

some local car dealership commercials. Coach thought should have gone his way. Has been trying to have been a lot. He's got out of business. He's a good car. Brew somehow, invested in Kyle

Trest stock years ago. That has been trying to go after him. And so now you guys just because the team that was six and two that Danny said and you co-signed could fall to six and five falling to six and five,

you guys are attacking him. Now it feels mean, Brew. I'm just going to tell you right now. It feels mean. The buck's in a rough spot. If Baker's healthy, I'm sure they'll be fine. And my faith would never waver,

Brew. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know you think they're a cute little team. They've been proven to just be cute. And if they weren't in the NFC South, they wouldn't even be cute.

They wouldn't even be cute if they were in another division. They're in the worst division in football. And that's why they're going to make the playoffs, assuming Baker's healthy. They might not. I don't love the fact that Nick abandons quarterback so quickly. He didn't even hurt yet. He's always like the Rams.

He's always like- He dropped you like a bad. Baker. I mean, the love only lasts for so long with Nick. He's got a laundering eye. What is true is this. Can we show Matt Stafford's numbers? Because sorry, KW.

He might have locked up the MVP. Short of having a disaster game. 27 touchdowns. I mean, he's clearly in front. Yep. But I don't think he's locked it up. It's just, you know, it's what, six games left? No, that's true.

But they also now with the Eagles loss have an inside track to the one seed. And the Rams look amazing. Can I read you this status? Oh, God, no. Oh, no. You got something to read. It ain't a stat. I had an interesting stat.

But instead of hearing about, wow, cogent analysis, said I'm about to open up an envelope that most likely will have lipstick on it. Hopefully not, even though the last five times I've had lipstick. And every time the Rams win again, I bring my reading glasses. Who does it say it's to and from? Nobody knows, KW. Everyone knows, unfortunately. Nobody knows.

To Nick from his one true NFC love. Oh, it's to me. Wrong again. Actually? Wow. Real. Wow. Hey, stranger.

We know you were watching last night, thinking about what could have been, had you'd followed your throbbing heart instead of your wandering eye to Baker, who we left bruised and battered. That seems... Our friends say you don't deserve us, but we know you still love us,

and we darn sure never stopped loving you. God Almighty. But the time for games is over. You need to show us we are more than a summer fling, that you're ready to take the next step, leave the bucks, and commit to us. give us a sign today or we're done forever

yearningly yours the Rams to the Super Bowl they want a sign how's that for a sign live in New York to show that is weird thinks that Miles Garrett is going to break the touchdown of the sax record next week

no he might do it next week but don't this week but still doesn't think he's the MVP no but on the baller Really? Fifth. You like that, Coach? For him breaking the sack record and being considered for MVP, I think that's fair. No, Brew wants him. Brew has him on his head. Just fit. Not to win the award, but like, coach is totally going to be totally fine with it.

Yeah, I'm 100% with that. It's just a quarterback award now, but if we incorporate other players and the verge of breaking this NFL sack record, he might have 30 sacks. He's on the verge of shattering it on a team that's never ahead. Right. They're always playing behind. Right. They're always an early. Or a close game.

It should be like awesome player of the year would. You just don't like the birdie. It's like, it's not like you're going to win it. It's just an acknowledgement, man, that dude was going. I am ready to have probably not today. Maybe not ever. But I would like where he stacks up in NFL history amongst D-Ly. I mean, it's, he's making.

Some people are saying in the Lawrence Taylor Aaron Donald class. I, it's, which is, which means you're in the. discussion of the greatest ever at your position. Like as far as D-Ns go, man. And I do think Nick's point is valid. They're always behind or in a close game. So it's not like you've got a ton of path rushing opportunities compared to other rookies.

All right. All right. Today, are we ready to talk about the Cowboys going to the playoffs as they get ready to take on the Kansas City Chiefs? Meanwhile, Shador wins the starting job. Have the Browns finally found their quarterback of the future. discuss, but right now talking about the Chiefs. Got a one score win, this time in overtime versus the Colts.

Mahomes throws for 350. Kelsey had four catches for 43 yards. Here he was after the game. What's it like to have Patrick Mahomes in the huddle in those moments with a chance to win it at the end of the game and then an overtime? Oh man, you just believe. You just believe every snap. No, it's the best man. He's our fearless leader, man.

That guy's the most competitive human being I know. And we love him for how he leads this team both on the field and practice throughout the week. And right now, man, it's, he's a, he's a lot of the best. he's leading us into victory, man. It's good vibes there now. Super Bowl odds. Rams Eagles, Chiefs, Seahawks, Colts, Lions, Broncos, can we get to the Patriots, Bills?

Ravens Patriots, finally. We also are the number one season in the entire league. Okay. Are the Chiefs worthy of having the best Super Bowl odds in the AFC? Yes, and here's why. So first of all, I've never seen Super Bowl odds this late in the season like this. Like the odds to win the AFC, there are six teams that are either at 5 to 1 or 5.5 to 1. And we talked to this a couple weeks ago that a couple years ago it felt like, man,

Cheaps Ravens' Ravens' bills, that all three were about even odds. The Ravens were the favorites because they had the buy. But I can't remember a year where it really felt like, oh, okay, so everyone who we expect to make the playoffs has an equal shot, which is about what the odds are currently saying. The Chiefs obviously have not yet, not only have they not yet made the playoffs. They entered week 12 in ninth place, and they leave week 12 in 10th place.

So they still, their margin of error, thanks to the Jacksonville game, stayed exactly what it was. They went out, they're in, they lose one game, they're almost assuredly in. They lose two games, they're probably out. So it's still very slim, and I recognize that. But I did not think Patrick played a great game yesterday,

but I also think everyone agrees. Patrick is the quarterback among any other quarterback in the league that you would want in that situation. Down 10 in the fourth quarter, down at his own goal line in a must-have drive, you know, on fourth down season on the line type of stuff. He's your number one pick. So if you have that player as your signal caller,

and then a defense that can do this to Jonathan Taylor. And this is where, and if we show Jonathan Taylor what he had done throughout the year and then yesterday, it's just, I don't know if we can show it or not. We'll show it after. What the chiefs have stolen from your Patriots is a very acute ability to say, maybe you're going to beat us, but you're not going to beat us doing what you want to do. So because of that, I just think that was there any fan of an AFC team that at the end of that game was like, oh, thank goodness. Now maybe Indy could struggle.

Or were they all like, gosh darn it, the Chiefs could have been dead and now they're alive. So yeah, I think they're the scariest team. My thing, coach, is who else? Who else in the AFC would you pick? And the Chiefs don't look great. That was a good win, obviously. It's not saying they look so great, but the two best teams as far as record, the Patriots and the Broncos, have completely unproven quarterbacks. And one of them, Bo Nix hasn't even had a good season other than a few fourth quarters.

Then you got Indy, which they just beat the Chiefs. And then the other two typical, you know, teams that are there, usual suspects. Baltimore and Buffalo haven't looked good. Buffalo be the Chiefs, but neither those, they've looked as shaky as the Chiefs, both of them. The Ravens, especially, they just happen to be in a different division, which helps them.

So I just don't, now I do feel differently about the Chiefs this year than previous years where when the playoffs started, it was just how you're going to, you know, can the Ravens beat them or can somebody beat them and they felt like an overwhelming favorite even when the

Ravens had, you know, home field and all that stuff. But now this. year I don't feel like they'd be the overwhelming favorite. No. I'm just saying if you had to pick one team, I don't know who it would be other than the Chiefs. But I do think they're a lot closer to the rest of the field this year than they have been

in a while. Yeah, I would think everybody in the AFC and everybody in the NFL was hoping that the chiefs were going to go down yesterday and to get them off the board. The quicker you can get them off the board, the better because you do have the wild card. Once Mahomes and that group enters in the United States. the playoffs and Andy Reid and all the experience all their ability to perform under pressure the versatility of the defense all those things as as as erratic as they've been throughout the course of the season they know how to win the postseason and and nobody's better at it and

nobody's been better at it for a long time than Kansas City so the quicker you can take them off the board the better but you do have to give Denver a lot of credit they did beat Kansas City they're on this huge what is it nine games now nine game winning streak and they have something that's been very pivotal in a lot of at Super Bowls, which is the ability to rush the passer. And we've seen it multiple times with a team with the best defensive line and the ability to generate sacks has dominated Super Bowls. So that, to me, makes them very interesting. With New England, you've got to give them credit too.

They're on a winning streak, and it's not their fault who they're playing against, but they haven't had letdowns. And typically, young teams and teams that weren't very good the year before have some letdown at some point in the season. And the other thing you give them credit for, that's two guys yesterday, and we're still able to manage to come out ahead. So there's value in that as well.

It's hard to get the Chiefs the best odds now or the odds that they have now with the other teams playing as well as they are and as erratic as they are, but you're just banking the fact and they're getting the playoffs, it's a different season. Coach, can I ask you a question?

I know we kick around like everybody wanted the Chiefs eliminated. I did not because I want the, buy and that kind of takes us, launches us ahead of the Colts. You don't think that the Patriots should have been rooting for the Colts to maybe not get the buy

but get rid of the Chiefs. I would rather have the buy, but to get rid of the Chiefs is more important. It's insane. Either way, it's a little bit of a win-win for New England yesterday, so they either would have gotten rid of the Kansas City. If I'm a good team, I want the Chiefs out.

Yeah, let me ask. Under any circumstance. I think if, If your goal is to make it as deep into the, like, hey, I just want to say we made the conference championship game, then I would value the buy above all else. If your true goal is anything short of making the Super Bowl, I'm going to be disappointed, then I think you should have been rooting for the Chiefs to lose. that the i i think that i think your chances of winning of winning a super bowl sure or making the super bowl are improved dramatically for everyone in the afc by having the chiefs debt it's it's a that that extra week off though is huge and now the fact that only one team gets the extra week off i mean it's really valuable to have that time not just to get healthy but also to

to game plan uh eagles we're hot and And then they were not. Jalen threw for almost $2.90. Found A.J. Brown. We thought things were going great. Jalen also had two rushing touchdowns. But Sequin had one of the worst games of his career. And Dallas scored 24 unanswered points.

Should Eagles fans be worried, coach? Well, Dallas has a 19-game win streak against N.S.E. East opponents at home. So there's that. And it stays alive. And this is, I forget, how many years now since Philadelphia's had a collapse like this. so that's a concern as well. But what I'm concerned about is, what did they do during the course of this game?

They threw the ball. How many times? 39. What's the magic number? I mean, how many times do we have to do this? But they got up 21-0 by throwing. Okay, okay. So then run the ball after that.

Sequin Barkley ran the ball 10 times just today. So we throw the, so maybe it's a crazy stat that I keep bringing out, but every time it happens, they lose. Is A.J. Brown happy? Probably got 10 targets. Right. As we saw the passing game.

Yeah, we did. Did we lose the game? Yeah, we did with a 21-point lead. And Sequin Barclay, I get it. He's not having his best season. But the fact that he ran the ball only 10 times yesterday, and you had a 21-point lead, to me, that part is the most problematic. Did you make AJ Brown happy?

Probably happy, right? He got catches. Yeah. Yeah, so he's hit. Great. Great. Everybody in Philly happy? But hold on.

You all happy losing? Throw the ball 50 times next time. and let's take one more on the ball eight times or whatever. The number is the number, and I'm not saying it's a magic number, but it's getting pretty magical. So, but here's the, so I would not be worried about another supernatural funk. I would not be worried about them, you know, falling, they're going to win the division by a couple games at the minimum.

I would be worried that, even though he has been a clumsy messenger, that the alarm A.J. Brown has been sounding all year is not a purely selfish one, even if it's self-motivated, but it is an accurate one that the offense is underachieving and underperforming, and we saw it again. And I would also brew be concerned that if this is who Sequin is this year, and we can show you, they don't have a fix. Because Jalen has stepped up, obviously in huge moments. But I don't think, to coach's point, on a week-to-week basis,

it can just be like, all right, Jalen, we got six games left in the regular season and then three or four in the playoffs, over the next 10-game stretch, drop back and carry us. He's always needed to be supported by a healthy running game. And Sequant, it's not a small sample anymore.

But Nick, when you let your marquee back carry the ball only 10 times, How do you know what his average would have been with 10 more carries? I don't know, but. Saquan has the ability to rip off a 60-yarder in a heartbeat. Coach, that, okay, just real quick before you go, Brew. I like that. That can be true.

But also at this point, isn't it fair to say that, and maybe he bounces back last year, but it would appear the 450 touches last year are weighing on Saquan this year, and they are not going to get, like 3.7 yards per carry, 11 games into the year is a real number. And I know Eagles fans are all of a sudden killing their offensive line. It's the, and especially without Lane Johnson, it's not as good.

But it is not, they have Sequans, one of the least productive rushers in the league this year. They don't have one of the worst offensive lines of football. It might have went from best, you know, 10th or something, but it's not that. So that, to me, I'd be worried about that. No, look, I do agree on.

Sequin. He may have another good game or two, but I don't think overall he's going to be what he was last year. I also think what's hurting their offense is Jalen is not able to run like he did last year. And I think, you know, that's just as he gets longer in the league, he's not going to be the runner he was. So that

takes something from him. Overall, I would not be concerned. And I'm not a guy that picked them to reach the Super Bowl. But I still think when you look at everybody in the NFC, only team that looks great is the Rams, and they did beat the Rams. They beat the Rams four straight times.

So they're not last year in the playoffs, last year in the regular season, year before in the regular season. They're not afraid of the Rams. Not that the Rams couldn't beat them, but there's nobody else in the NFC that's like scary. And so my only concern, if I was an Eagles fan, is, is AJ going to ignite something with a comment, with a tweet or whatever that's going to make this one loss? They should be like this was one loss. We might lose, they shouldn't think this, but I'm saying it, they might lose four or five games this year.

That doesn't mean they're not going to win the Super. It's just a game. Right. So they have to keep it there and not let it become something like the supernatural funk, which could be ignited by A.J. Brown or some other player making a comment. Coach, I was kicking around early in the show of bringing in an offensive consultant. What do you think about that? We've seen it before.

We remember Matt Patricia came in for the defense. We saw D&P's come in on the defense. Do you think adding more brain power to the Eagles coaching staff? They're not opposed to doing that in Philadelphia at all. They've had people there that support the special teams coach. They're not afraid to make that decision. And there could be some value in it. But I could consult with them right now.

Give Sequin the ball more when you got a 21-point lead. Here's my consulting. 30 underrender, right? And then something that hasn't happened in 26 years, which is blowing a 21-point lead, probably won't happen. So that's free. Just for the record, it was my,

and don't throw more than 30 passes again. We will be invoicing you. It's only up in, well, 26 years ago. Can I, just real quick, if we can the, my, when Wilds asked that question earlier, I said, um, Nick Sierra is an offensive guy.

Can he take on a larger hand? I know he's never called play, like, you know, He's the rare offensive minded head coach who's always had, like a very empowered, if you will, offensive coordinator. In fact, two years ago, he didn't even get to, or last year pick his coordinator. But for most teams, if they had an offensive minded head coach and the offensive scheme is struggling, wouldn't they take a bigger hand in it before you brought in someone from the outside? Yeah, well, you saw it with Dan Campbell in Detroit.

He stepped in and he saw it with Dan Quinn in Washington. in. He thought there was a problem, so he stepped in. Yeah, that's typically what happens. But when you're in a situation where the head coach can't hire the coordinators, maybe they feel like he's not necessarily the best person. Could Big Dom do it? Yeah, of course.

There's no limit to jurisdiction. Keep it under 30 and give the other guy the ball. Meanwhile, in Dallas, Dak and the Cowboys scored 24 straight points to send the birds home. Here's Jerry Jones. Brian has got this team with no quit in their

vocabulary. They will not quit. I hope all of our fans agree with me that they showed a lot of grit. They showed a lot of want to, and they certainly showed they haven't given up as far as giving us a chance to actually get into playoffs. Time for my first reference to the athletics playoff predictor. We're at 14% right now, but beat the Chiefs and the Lions their next two games. It goes up to 50%. That's all. Okay. No, the Lions game for whatever, no, the Lions game is the, is the game for them. Like the, obviously.

If they lose to the Chiefs, their best they could do is 10, 6, and 1. I don't know if that gets you in. I mean, that's not going to happen. The Chiefs on Thanksgiving, that won't happen. But my point is, the Lions game is almost literally doubly the Indian court of the the Chiefs game because the Lions are the team most likely to fall out. You know, actually, well, the Lions are not even in right now. But they definitely need the Lions to not get in and then also someone else to fall out.

But go ahead, KW. Yeah, so look, they've made some significant progress. And I know you guys are clowning Shottie for his post game. No, it was cool. I thought a good job with that. But let's just take a look defensively where they've been since the trade deadline. and Jerry made his moves. Okay, so this is where they were

prior to the trade deadline. 31st, 31st, 30th, 30th, 29th, not very good. And now since the trade deadline, 8th, 9th, 24th, 1st, 14th, 16. That run defense, all of a sudden. Well, you've got some legitimate guys inside. They've got some guys that can create problems

and you're starting to see that translate. They've been so explosive offensively. They've made improvements defensively. And, you know, games like this can propel you in the late part of the season because now everybody starts believing it doesn't matter if we're down by 21 points. It doesn't matter what the situation is. We've got a chance and that belief can be extremely powerful. Look, I think they've improved greatly on the defensive end.

And if you can just be a middle of the road defense with that offense, you got a shot. I just think it's too little too late. When I look at their, and it's mainly the schedule, like the Chiefs, Detroit, They could easily lose both of those games. And then you got. And they could also easily win. Well, if they beat the Chiefs, I still won't be like, okay, they really got a great shot. But it'll be a better shot.

They're three and a half point dogs at home against Kansas City. And they're going to be around six point dogs in Detroit. So they're underdogs in both. Then you still have the chargers. You still have the chargers who will be fighting for their playoff life. And so I just think it's the schedule. I don't even know, and again, if 10, 6, 1 would get them in. And that means going, what, 5 and 1 the rest of the way?

I don't think, do I think 10, 6, and 1 would get them in? I think 10, 6, and 1 with one of, as long as they beat the Lions, you know, they knocked the lions down there. You think 10 wins gets you in. Yeah, you would think typically. And this is a more powerful 10 wins because you would win, you'd go ahead of every 10 and 17. Right.

But here, throw up down. His schedule again, please. Because Brew's looking at the games coming up. I'm looking at what we've seen. Just look at their results. Does it look like a team that's about to reel off, 7 of 8? I understand they are a, the Quinn and Williams edition is a significant addition. I also understand that the Raider game is a win.

Everyone in the league gets except for the Patriots in week one, oddly. And I give them a ton of credit for the Eagles win. That's a division. I just don't, right. I just don't think that I do think they can beat Kansas City, for example. I do think they can beat Detroit. If you beat the super like, hey, the teams that were just in the Super Bowl, we just beat them both.

Well, that is, I don't think it's the question. It's just a matter of the schedule in the time. And the team that just lost to the Jags despite winning the turnover battle for nothing, you got beat by double digits by at home in Arizona. My point is, I just don't think they have been, they have been a, consistent team. Yeah, yeah. And so I,

it would shot, it would, I would be very disappointed. I would not be shocked if they beat the Chiefs. I would be shocked if they reel off four consecutive excellent games.

I'd be shocked if they make the playoffs. Oh, yeah. And I think they might be a playoff capable, like good enough at this point, but it's just, Cowboys fans should be rooting for the Panthers tonight.

It's trying to feel like the Cowboys guy on the show. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Oh my goodness. Does they need the Niners to fall out? They get a huge hat. What do you hope to show against this Raiders defense, your teammates, yourself,

and these Browns fans with their play today? I'm who they've been looking for. Appreciate it. A win is crazy. It's amazing, you know? Off of one week of practice, you know what I mean? This one week of practice. So imagine, you know what a full offseason look like.

It gets dangerous. Nobody cares if this was one week of prep. Who cares? you know so a lot of people want to see me feel and it ain't going to happen coach browns needed to win they got to win were you a fan of the comments from brown's new starting quarterback why why that's how we got here right isn't it that's how we kind of ended up in the fifth round because of talking like that because of presenting yourself like that and

And I get it. You want to be confident, and that's fine. You should be confident, but you don't need to take it to this level. And it's one of those things where you had 11 completions and the defense had 10 sacks. You were playing the Raiders, which just fired their offensive coordinator. Things are fairly dysfunctional with that group. And I get it. You had one week of practice.

Baker Mayfield went to the Rams with less than 48 hours of practice and lit it up when he was there. So one week of practice, you were there for OTAs. You were there for training camp. You've been there all season. You've been in every single meeting. You were the backup quarterback. So you had one week of practice? How many weeks of practice do you need?

So let's see. Let's see now that you get more than one week of practice, how dangerous you are. Baker woke up feeling dangerous, and he got shipped out. And then he was with two more teams before he became dangerous again. So let's see. I think that there's some value in humbleness. Humbleness is not necessarily a negative trait in the NFL.

Confidence is fantastic. It can be contagious, but there's some value also in being somewhat humble and appreciating the opportunities you have as opposed to making everything adversarial with the current coaching staff. I don't disagree with what you said. I will give him a pass on the pregame. because he was asked, what are you hoping to do? So he said, I'm hoping to show them the fans and myself that,

what was this direct quote? I'm what you've been waiting for. So that's fine. That's fine. If she's like, what are you hoping to show them? Now, if she said, what are you about to do? And he's, I'm about to show everybody. I'm the one they've been waiting for.

That's a little different. So I'll give them a pass on that. The post game, you don't, I didn't like that. And my, what I would say to Shadour is when you talk this way, you better be great. Like you, people did not like Muhammad Ali. Black people, I'm serious. Black people did not like Muhammad Ali when he was Cassius Clay and he first, before he was champion. And he's talking all this stuff, calling the rounds.

They didn't like that. But once he proved, oh, he backs it up, then everybody loved it. It became part of his lore. Dion Sanders, his dad, could talk. it and walk it. If you don't, if you can't walk it, then I don't think just fans or media won't like it. I think in your locker room it won't go well with a lot of players. So that's the thing. When you talk, because I like Shador, but when you talk this way, you better be able to back it up. That's all I got to say. So I have long said, I would

prefer honest arrogance to false humility in my athletes. Like I would just, I would like the, if you are a naturally humble person, then, you know, great. But if you actually, you think I'm just the greatest, then I think, I think we can see through it when guys are, you know, are faking how awesome they think they are. And so part of me says, wants to say, good for him. You know what I mean? Salute, good for you, man.

like you really believe in yourself. My hurdle here is because Shador is in such a unique position because all of the athletes we've talked about in mostly the history of sports television have been at least starters, if not stars. So the context of, you know,

I want you to be, if you're arrogant, be arrogant. They are not guys typically fighting for their jobs. and when I watch Shador's post game, my honest reaction to it was, oh, man, I still don't think he quite either gets or acknowledges the actual position he's in in the hierarchy of his own team and of the NFL.

Because when he says, wait, you know, imagine what it'll look like with a whole off season. To me, that assumes he is going to walk. Walk into a season as the unquestioned starting quarterback and get that whole offseason. And my honest feelings are, while I root for that to be the case, my money would be on. Yeah, that'll literally never happen. I don't, I do not think.

Unless he's great. No, no, no, no, right. And I'm guessing. And my prediction is he won't be great the rest of the season. But right now, like, do I think there will be at any point in Chador's career, a team where he has just established himself as I am the friend, the starting quarterback on this team. I don't think that's going to happen.

And like I, it would be, again, just a huge upset based on where he was drafted. And so I think he is going to walk into a offseason next, this coming off season, very similar to the one he's in right now, where you are fighting for reps, where there is, you are not top on. the depth chart.

And it just I, those, and I'm not going to, again, I think he's a charming, good-natured human being. But I think there is an element of delusion, is the wrong word. But he thinks that, it seems to me that he thinks, man, I was drafted in that spot for reasons that have nothing to do

with how good of a quarterback I am. And now that I'm having a chance to show everyone how good of a quarterback I am, I'm going to be back where I should have been, which is first round draft pick and be treated as such. And I don't, while that would be unbelievable for Cleveland if he plays up to that level,

that's not how I think this is going to go. And so I think that that's why it struck my radar of, oh, man, I don't think you're going to get what you're talking about getting, at least no time in the next couple years. And so that. And look, the Cleveland coaching staff could be wrong on Shador. but when you take a victory lap like that

and take shots at the coaching staff, because that's what it is. Oh, I didn't read it like that. Oh, absolutely. Imagine if I got reps. Imagine if this happened. Imagine if, so he's taking shots. And so those guys still ultimately control your destiny,

at least during the short term and in the off season, I just don't think it builds a positive relationship where he could have come out of this game and had some more credibility and built on that. this as opposed to instantly coming off and making it like confrontational again. All right. Head to New England where the Patriots are the first team to get two 10 wins with a win in Cincinnati over the Bengals. Currently lead the entire NFL. You guys had a buy?

No, not yet. Play the Giants and then we got to buy. Drake played an ugly game by his standards. What's that look like? Clyde you ask, 294. Touchdown interception. It was ugly. Oh, he had two touchdowns, just like...

Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, he had two touchdowns, just like Caleb had four. He did have two touchdowns. Yeah, but I think the other team. One to the Bengals. It was ugly. Oh, I told you was ugly. Coach, do you think the Patriots looked like the number one seed against the Bengals?

I didn't feel like they looked like the number one seed against the Bengals. I thought the fact that they were down like they were to Cincinnati was surprising. I actually thought it was a fair point. Didn't feel great about it. Coach, you can continue. I usually come out of there with a lot of confidence, but I think we're actually on the same page. It's hard to follow that.

Yeah, look, I didn't love the hole that they dug. I didn't love the pick six. I did really like the fact that they were able to fight back the way they were and that they lost really the whole left side of the offensive line. And still figured out a way to win the game. Again, they don't get to choose who they play against and what those situations are. And the thing that they've done really well

is handle whoever's in front of them. And I think Mike's done an excellent. Mike Dravel has an excellent job of keeping them focused on just the next thing. You don't hear them talking about the playoffs. You don't hear them talking about the number one seed. You don't hear them talking about anybody else. they just talk about what's in front of them,

and that's the formula for a long run. Coach, first, if you recognize these guys, they used to be the Prince's guys until Nick dropped them like a guy. There was, listen, I like these gentlemen so much. And as it happens, the Jags are not quite as relevant, so we executed a trade. That was all. Prince is a rough watch.

I mean, seven and four got a lot. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, they didn't look like the number one scene. I'm sorry, Wilde. They didn't.

But it's a good win. And I will give you guys this, even though you've had the easy schedule, you have some good wins, obviously, Tampa, Buffalo, and you've blown out like some of the – They blew out Cleveland. That's impressive. I mean, even though Cleveland – no, it is impressive to the score. 32. No, I agree. Against that defense.

32 on that defense. You blew out Carolina, which is playing a pretty good football. So I just, I don't think, I won't think they're the best team in the F.C. So they're in the Super Bowl. Just because of the youth of the quarterback and they weren't very good last year. But I don't think they're the true number one seat or the best team. We are the true number.

You are that, but not the best team in my view. How are you feeling, KW? I feel like I feel about parenting. Wow. Okay, everyone's parents on the step. Strap in. I love this. You want to provide your kids with a safe environment to make mistakes and learn.

And now that we have gotten 10 wins, not that the Patriot's a kid, but Mike Vrable and the Patriots have a safe environment to make mistakes for the playoffs. That's how I'm viewing this. We have so much of a good lead that we're in the playoffs, basically. We've got the Giants on Monday night who just fired their DC and fired their head coach. that's a safe environment to learn. Then we have the buy, get healthy, Ravens and Bills.

I kind of want to lose one of these games. It sounds crazy, but I want to have the bar rescue stress test. Like what's going on, what's wrong, what needs to be fixed immediately, and it's hard to get it against Joe Flacco and a Jamarless Bengals squad. So just two quick points.

One question of you and then one very quick point. How, all that sounds well and good, but the most important thing going in the playoffs is Drake May is healthy and how concerned are you about those offensive line injuries? It's not great.

He's already sacked at one of the highest rates in the NFL and now we raise the whole left side of the line. That's a problem. So listen, they have to have Will Campbell for the postseason. Because you guys have this big cushion, he can miss time, but they have to have him for the postseason. The other side,

and I know we're here talking about the Patriots is 10 seconds on this. Jamar Chase should give back another game check. The Bengals are a lot. I think they can win that game with him. Oh, yeah. And Joe Burrow is back on Thursday, and the Steelers are falling apart.

They play the Ravens, and it's like, man, you could have been there. You could, I understand it would have been uphill. They had the ball in the 26th. Right. They had a chance with T. Higgins going out and Chase's not playing. Like, I really like,

Jamar Chase is a great player. I think he is on a Hall of Fame trajectory as a tough position to make it. Him not being there because he spit on a guy is outrageous. And just before you play us off, gentlemen, this is quickly to our viewers because I was a little too humble there. I know we talk about a lot of six and five teams

being the best team. But the Patriots are currently the best team, actually. Gentlemen, thank you as always. More first things first, right after the break. Right on. Thanksgiving Day on Fox, Bruce Packers versus the Lions. Interesting. That's a huge game.

Huge game. Lions might miss. Lions window may have closed. Window closed seems harsh, but they could be in trouble this season. Very lucky to win this past weekend. Yeah. Need a 59 yarder to 4-0-2. Covered starts 11 on Fox.

Have you, Thanksgiving. Jimere Gibbs on your ballot, Brew? on your ballot for them? Maybe. Steelers gave up 31 points to the Bears without Aaron Rogers, who doesn't play defense anyways. Lost drops them to 6 and 5, but a bad 6 and 5. Not like a lot of the other teams. The playoffs started today, which would be odd.

The Steelers would not be in it. Let's look at this graphic. Teams that have allowed over 30 points most games of season, the Bengals who all we ever talk about is their bad defense, then the Steelers, and then the Giants who are the Giants who fire their head coach and defensive coordinator. Is anyone ready to write off the Steelers? I'm ready to go a step further.

A step right off the franchise. I'd be willing to discuss Mike Tomlin trades this offseason. Interesting. Feels and the comp I would use and I know it wasn't traded. He was just fired. But Andy and Philly.

Yeah. Like, excellent coach. You know what I mean? But maybe is it best for everyone involved? fresh started. And for Tomlin, they are, once again, he looks like he's going to be a victim of his own success in this regard. They're not going to be at the top of the draft.

You know what I mean? You're still going to be looking for, like, is Kyler Murray going to be the quarterback there? Are they going to use the 16th pick on a quarterback? Right. And so, or Aaron at age 42, like, coming back again. And so I do think they squandered a golden opportunity of the Bengals having, you know, not having Burrow for months and the Ravens starting one and five.

And the fact that the Ravens have caught them before they've even played them is crazy. After the one and five start. And so, Coach, like, that's, yeah, I'm ready to write off the Steelers season. And I'd consider, like, hey, Giants, you want to trade us the 35th pick of the draft, whatever your second round pick is for Mike Tomlin. Like, that's something to me. Yeah, I'm not really writing them off because I never wrote it in. I didn't think they were going to be very good.

I thought they would be similar to what they've been and maybe a little bit better than last year because Aaron Rogers performed somewhat better than Russell and Justin Fields did. But I didn't expect their defense to be as bad as it is. And to Kevin's point, the fact that they're in the category with the Bengals and one game less at 30 plus points in the Bengals is pretty amazing. But I don't think this is a Mike Tomlin problem.

This is a quarterback problem, and it's been consistent where once Ben Rothersberger left, like we see with a lot of organizations, when you lose a great quarterback, trying to replace that guy is a never-ending challenge. So you know the head coach works, but you've got to solve that point. problem and they've been trying to bargain basement it for the quite a few seasons now. I guess they did have the one first round draft pick that didn't work out. But they've got to keep working that element of it as opposed to blowing it up and getting rid of Mike Tomlin.

Yeah, look, first of all, if I'm the Giants, I would do that in a heartbeat, give up the second round pick for Mike Tomlin, establish a culture. They got some talent already. I don't think Pittsburgh will do it. I think Kyler Murray is a real possibility there. And then they just, you know, hey, we got Mike Tomlin and we run it back and see. I'm like, all of us thought they would make. Do you think you have to draft one too?

Yeah, but I mean, next point is it's not going to be a high. But still, you can get one late in the first round or second. Yeah, Jordan wasn't high. But, I would draft somebody. But I didn't think they made the playoffs anyway. But I'm looking at their schedule, Buffalo, Detroit. And let's say they even split with them. the Ravens, which I hope the Ravens can sweep them, but that's a real possibility.

It's probably most likely they split. That still makes you nine and eight, which isn't going to get you in. Well, that's perfect. So I think at best, they're probably nine and eight. It's a winning season. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what they'll do and miss the playoffs. I tell you this much.

If Buffalo goes one and done in the playoffs, and I would say same with Baltimore, and only Baltimore do it. If I'm one of those teams, I'd probably. trade my first round pick for Mike Tomlin. So if you were Baltimore, you're trying to get in. I'm just saying, I don't think Pittsburgh's going to trade Mike Tomlin to Baltimore. But I think like the I don't need a rebate. If I'm Mike Tomlin,

I don't want to go rebuild. And if I'm Mike Tomlin, maybe he thinks he can, but we don't know that Mike Tomlin can pick a quarterback. You know what I mean? He's never had to. And so the, like, I mean, he's had to, but he hasn't been able to do it. He had Big Ben when he got there.

I mean, if Mike Tomlin gets fired this year, he just sits out, does TV for a year and then signs some record-breaking deal for whatever organization he wants to a year from now, because everybody will want him. But I don't think there's any way they fire him. No, I don't know. I think he's worth a late first round pick. Live from New York, it's first thing's overtime. Danny Parkins, Kevin Wilde, Nick Wright, and Chris Brassard, power-packed episode of overtime today. And this table was undefeated yesterday. That's right.

Berkins picks went under. No, no, no, no. Nick's picks did. Nick's, really? You had the 3-0 week? 20-1-1. A push. None of you.

What about the lock? It's not bad. Told you. Told you the lock. How'd your lock of the week go? It hit Rams. So what was your overall? One and two.

One and two. It was Patriots couldn't cover for me. He had, oh, what were we? Seven and a half? I got it's six and a half. Too much. Let's go. This just gave you some trouble.

Sometimes we're acting a little too Bears, Betsy. They got that cornered. Also, great podcast, by the way. We're number one, but there I think are tough. Did the Eagles collapse or to Dallas just mount an amazing comeback? Meanwhile, it's a time to take the Bears seriously. By your metric wilds of how you're grading the Patriots, the answer is definitively yes. I disagree.

You said we have to call the Patriots the best. Well, we are the best. Right, so they are the best in the NFC North. By that metric, it's the exact thing. We're the best in all, not just the N.S. I understand. Take them all, combine them. Sort them.

Ten wins. Light schedule so far. Yeah. For the most part. You're too. You know what? Not an A.D. I'm not trying to schedule stuff.

No, I'm just saying that's you and the Bears. Right now, Chiefs win. There's six and five. Here's Patrick Malms. It's kind of the urgency thing. I mean, obviously you want to be urgent, but it was do or die type thing where you had to make. something happen and guys made plays happen throughout the entire team.

It wasn't one person. It was everybody. Everybody made plays in the biggest moments and we found a way to win. What was the number one reason the Chiefs won? Because they're champs and they weren't going to go out like that. And I know they're not the defending Super Bowl champs, but they are the three-time defending AFC champs. They have won the conference five in the last six years.

They have played for the conference championship seven consecutive seasons. And their season was not in. at home before Thanksgiving at the hands of Daniel Jones, and everyone was going to have a hand in it not ending that way. Because this was not purely a Patrick Mahomes pulls it out the fire. And, listen, Patrick played really well in the fourth quarter in overtime, but they also did have a three and out in the fourth quarter. You know, when they, the fourth and three to Rishi was, I think it was the fourth down,

to Rishi that was Rishi had to do more of that work than Patrick did. But defensively, they took the number one scoring offense, the number one everything offense, the number one, oh my God, you got to respect the culture else you don't respect football offense and made them look terrible. They made Jonathan Taylor look pedestrian, which no one's been able to do. I'm going to go ahead and say ever in his football life. Certainly not at Wisconsin, and no one in the NFL,

I doubt anyone in high school did. and Xavier Worthy came through on a huge third and seven. Rishi finally for the first time since his first game back from the suspension looked like how he did before

the suspension. And then Patrick of course did Patrick things in the most clutch moments. Bucker who has been shaky all year. They weren't tough kicks but hit clutch kick after clutch kick and Steve Spagnolo dialed up a run

blitz on the third, like the sneaky forgotten play of the game is third and one in overtime. They did give it to Jonathan Taylor after putting the game in Daniel Jones's hands. And I think if he gets zero yards, they go for it. But he lost two yards. And so that

listen, the chief Stannie and myself, as you witness, were on... He was going through it. I was going through it. Because it looked like, I always tweet, never a doubt, but there was a little tiny doubt that's creeping in, but they weren't going to go out like that, and that's why they won.

So what I'm going to say, I feel like we'll be taking is taking something away from the Chiefs and I really don't mean it to because you have the Chiefs part of it covered. I give them the benefit of the doubt also. That game to me felt a lot like last year, the Chiefs were 12 and 0 in one score games, and they were 15 and 2, and we woke up and we were like, are they good? How did that happen? Like the Bengals committed a penalty and then they made a 50-yard field goal or there was a blocked kick. It was just weird.

The Colts lost their minds. The Colts lost their minds. They were up, what, 20 to 9 entering the fourth quarter and they had the guy who was third in the NFL for MVP odds. And they're like, yeah, I don't know. I just don't think he should be involved in the game plan anymore. Like that was one of the most lopsided. or was the most lopsided, fourth quarter and overtime,

in terms of two teams against each other, in three years. Like, I can show it to you in terms of yardage differential, and it was just, what happened? The Chiefs outgamed the Colts by 218 yards over the course of fourth quarter and overtime, and Jonathan Taylor had three rush attempts.

He had one yard. They gained zero first downs. Nick, we're watching the game together, and we could have had a counter because we're like, that's three consecutive pass attempts for Daniel Jones. That's four. They did eight straight at one point. Got to eight.

With a double-digit lead on the chiefs in the fourth world. But that's okay because Daniel Jones has to be respected and he's not going to turn into a pumpkin and he's obviously, you know what I mean? He's been on the, he's like that's the thing is. He's not as good as Jonathan Taylor. I get it. But Jonathan Taylor is being shut down. And the whole, this is where, and I don't mean to interrupt.

I know. But the reason that you have. been forced, you've got to respect the cults. You have to take the cult seriously. It makes it not just about the uniforms, like, understand what they're doing, was, is it different Daniel Jones? And the cults in that game treated Daniel Jones the way many in the media have been demanding he be treated. Respect him. And if you are a legitimate franchise quarterback, a guy that the Colts clearly believe in. They traded away their ability to draft a quarterback.

They're going to give them a bunch of money. And the other team is loading the box and daring you to throw. And by the way, everyone's been able to, Chiefs can't get a pass rush. You know, Bo Nicks threw on him. Herbert threw on him. They've had, like, Daniel Jones, go show everybody, go make a couple plays. And the Colts, I think, bought into the hype a little bit yesterday that Daniel Jones was going to be able to do that.

flatly was not able to do it. Yeah, I'm going to stay with the Colts because I agree with what you guys said about the Chiefs. They showed championship medal. There's no question about it. And Danny, I think they show why, while they're not, certainly not heading shoulders above the rest of the AFC, I think it's very close. Yeah.

But if they get in the playoffs, you're going to fade. They should be the favorites in the AFC. Even if they're not a great team, they barely get in, they're nine and eight, whatever it might be, just because of that. medal and that recent success. You have to favor them. The Colts got exposed. They did get exposed.

They shut down, Jonathan. Like the chief said, Taylor's not beating us. And the teams that have beaten the Colts this year have done the exact same thing. So the Rams, they held Jonathan Taylor, held him to 76 yards on 17 carries. It's four and a half yards of carry. Jones couldn't deliver a win. Pittsburgh held, hell, they were harder on him than. Kansas City.

They held him to 45 yards on 14 carries. Daniel Jones couldn't beat him. Yesterday we saw with the Chiefs. And all three of those losses, Jonathan Taylor has failed to score a touchdown rushing the football. So they've said he's not beating us. Can your quarterback beat us? And the quarterback hadn't been able to.

And so that now, here's the other thing. And I think the people are going to laugh at it. I think the Colts will make the point. play out. Oh, it's not a lot. The schedule is a monster. And it's, yes. They got, they got Houston twice, which is starting to play well, Jacksonville twice, and then Seattle and San Francisco. Yes. Like all good, tough teams that they have to play. They'll make it. I think so, I think they'll make it. I would think so, but come on, that is a, they're going to have to earn it. And if they, if they beat Houston and Jacksonville, fine. And the one last thing, when did Daniel Jones stop running?

Like that's the other part That I was as a Chiefs fan Nurt like nervous about that They were that there was going to be one of these times Where they actually cover it all up And then Daniel Jones does what Herbert did on the plate ice that game It's like okay I can just run And it seemed like he wasn't even looking for the people

But remember he took a ton of hits in New York And he's just you know That's a big part of this game or it should be He's a great runner Yeah great actually not just good All right, let's head to Chicago. Caleb throws four touchdowns. Only one of the Steelers, that's the Bears.

He didn't throw a touchdown to the Steelers. Yeah, it was a fumbled to the deal. He kind of went like this. He fumbled a touchdown of the Steelers. Put some respect. It was something bad. No interceptions. Let's focus on the positive.

Bears, eight and three. It is, four touchdowns. Here's Caleb post game. We're an eight and three team in the national football league. And so, you know, we feel good where we're at. But we do got to get better. And I would say, yeah, Yeah, we don't feel like we're the same old bears.

We pull through for each other when it matters most. And so we've got to keep getting better, like I said. It starts with me on my side, and then, you know, we'll keep growing from there. How seriously should everyone take the bears? Very seriously. Very seriously. They're going to the playoffs. They're 8 and 3.

They're playing for the two-seat on Black Friday against the champs. They're, what, sixth in total yards, eighth in scoring, second and rushing, first and takeaways. 27th in scoring defense? They've won eight of their last night. Brew, they had five defensive starters out with injury. Two more defensive starters get injured during the game. They held the Steelers to seven points in the second half. I'm just saying.

I mean, are they a great team? No. Are they good in this parlance of how we talk about the NFL? Absolutely. What more do you want? I want a defense that's not 27th in scoring. They'll get healthy. Okay.

I mean, a lot of people are hurt. I don't want to hear that. Here's the other thing. Look, they may make the play. I think they're the third best team in their division. Based on what, though? That's what I would ask. They have beat one team, one team with a winning record.

Pittsburgh. With Mason Rudolph playing quarterback. They have, now, look. Be who's in front of you. But when you put a good team in front of them, they get shellacked. All right? Detroit beat a mile.

52, 21. Was that the score? I'm not here to talk about the time. So here's the thing. You've got the Green Bay twice and Detroit again. So you're going to have a chance to prove it. I think you may make the playoffs, but I think Green Bay and Detroit are better.

And we'll see. You get your chance to prove it. So here's what I would. I think everyone's gut is. Yeah. Detroit's obviously better and Green Bay, you know, should be better. Based on this season, I don't know that we can say that. You're right, Detroit killed them early in the year.

I understand that. Detroit is damn lucky to not have lost yesterday. Yes. Detroit is changing. Coordinators, Detroit is dealing while you're right, everybody's injured in different ways. The Leporta injuries big for them. It took Gibbs having an all-time game and them hitting a 60-yard field goal for them just to get to overtime against the district.

the Giants. So based on what we've seen from Detroit this year, I don't know that they're clearly better than Chicago. I understand they crushed them head to head, which matters, but matters less as, you know, as we are months removed from it. And we'll see what they look. Right. Early in the season. And Green Bay, I'm yet to be impressed by Green Bay over the course of 60 minutes. I'm pretty consistently impressed by their defense. So like I, that would be my argument is, I think, think you can make a case for any of those three teams that they have the highest upside or that they are the best in that division. So if we are going to take the Lions and Packers seriously, I'll take the Bear seriously.

But seriously, what is seriously? I mean, they may make the playoffs. I take them seriously to make the playoffs. They have as good of a chance to make the conference championship game as any team in the NFC North. Because now that the Lions are going outdoors for the playoffs, I don't know that I like golf or love outdoors more than I like Caleb? I don't

know that. I like Jordan I like love. I like I don't. I like Caleb. I think Caleb is a better player than Jordan Love. I think golf has you know is obviously higher in the quarterback pecking order than Caleb but golf outdoors worries

me. Also can we like I can't argue the pedigree stuff and I can't argue who they've beaten but that is we can apply that logic to a ton of teams in the NFL. The Patriots are the one seed, and they have 10 wins. But if you do a side-by-side comparison of just like the bones of... I mean, they beat Buffalo and Tampa Bay. They beat Buffalo and Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is one game over 500. They're six and five. Yeah, but they, I mean,

just Buffalo. Just Buffalo. Okay. Okay. And listen, like I said, y'all be one team. I picked Buffalo to go to the Super Bowl, and some of the teams on the Bears' schedule have not been as good as we thought they were going to be and they lost to Baltimore with Snoop Huntley and gave up 30 points. That's not a great moment for him. But in terms of just we could put it up, strength of schedule, strength of victory. They each have six one score wins. They've played the two easiest schedules so far this year and they're scoring the same number of points and they're both in first place.

I'll rest my case. Well, but that's a thing. But we talk about the Patriots like they could go to the Super Bowl. Patriots have a better defense. That's a big difference. It's a huge. It is. I agree.

with you. T.J. Edwards, Kyler Gordon, and Jalen Johnson all should be back at some point this year. Jalen's their best defensive player. That's three of their, I don't know, five best defensive players on the team. Bears' defense should get better as the season goes on. I'm going to start calling you the doctor. I love talking about injuries. Whether it's the Chargers or the Bay. But everybody's got injuries. Yeah, but it puts context into what you're watching. Patriots also have injuries. Yeah, but they just suffered them. So the difference is, is like what is like you're concerning injuries are the ones that just happened yeah the bears have all year yeah i just have injuries i'm right i'm but i i am personally i'm not interested

in injuries about guys that aren't coming back i am interested in you know this has been a weakness but these guys are going to come back and if those bears guys if the biggest question is the defense and it's like hey half the defense is coming back that that would that would be helpful just like for the Patriots, if they all of a sudden look awful over the next three weeks, but it's like, hey, our left tackle and left guard are coming back in week 18. That'll matter. It's hard for us

to look awful. And Danny, I don't know if we have Caleb's intercept. It's not an interception. It's a fumble in the end zone. The reason why, the big difference, and this is going to be a fuzzy analysis, but it's true. When you watch the Patriots and the Bears, this type of wacky

stuff just doesn't happen when you're wearing a new England. That's true, but Caleb hasn't thrown a pick six as bad as the one Drake through yesterday his whole career. His whole career he hasn't. Drake's pick six yesterday was not pressured. It was not tough coverage. He just sailed it.

He was just loose with one pass. No, and this, right? How is that different than this? Because this is weird situational awareness of getting sat, of running away from T.J. Watt in the end zone and then being tossed down. Caleb's escaped everything this year. He got sacked 68 times last year.

He's been sacked 17 times in 11 games. Like, this was a mistake. It was a bad. moment. It's an odd play. I'm just saying there's a lower floor for the Bears quarterback play than there is for Drake. Oh, I, listen, I

agree with that. There's a lot of stuff you see. No, I agree, but I think that, I guess the, my point, the only, I agree with that, but I think the single worst throw Drake's made all year he made yesterday. And the Drake's interception

was so bad. It was just like, it wouldn't show up in any high, if you were producing a blooper show and be like, put this play in, you'd be like, well, he just kind of just lost the ball a little bit. Right, and I guess that for some reason you're deciding that means it's fine. You are really all in.

I just don't know that. I'm like, watch it. I don't know that other people view it the way you do. It was so bad. You're totally right. Look at it. It's not that bad of a throw. It's just a missed. It wasn't a bad decision. It almost felt like a hand mistake. It wasn't. wasn't like a mental mistake.

I got it. I was like, oh, I'm sorry about that. It was like, it was like, if you ever taken a ball of paper, take a ball of paper and throw it to the garbage? It felt like a missed jump shot, honestly. And he just missed it. You're like, oh, be like, wow, that's the worst shot I've ever seen. It was a missed 12 foot jumper.

KW, I'm just telling you. That's not going on the NBA's wacky, wacky days. It was a six. KW, I think you're the only person who's drawing some major distinction. If you think Drake May's pick six in that play running away from T.J. Watt when he's getting tossed around. I don't think that. I think that your decision just that. That pass was so bad, it doesn't count.

And in fact, I'm going to compare it to throwing a lot. It counts, but it's not the worst play in the world. We also have two more wins. You do. I take all the other. You play an extra game. The Jets or the Titans? How many wins the Jets have?

God only knows. I imagine. Two more games, a lot of games. It's a quarter of your games. We have a quarter more. Played an extra game. He's really in a quarter more. Much easier division.

You're such a easy division. You're such a huge. Wow. That's not true? Not either. The defense rights. I would be eight feet tall. We got to move.

Danny. Well, he's all you're saying the Bears and the Patriots. I'm eight. I'm not. My guy. Both have played. He's a terrible schedule. I'm eight feet tall.

He's six. feet tall. Match up. Try to get a rebound. Finally. He's all. He's all. He's all. He's doing the show for five years. There's eight wins and there's 10 win teams. There's just five win teams like three wins. Cowboys mad at a huge gunback or the Eagles fell asleep at the wheel gave Dallas the game or a little bit of both. Those are your options for the storyline to this game. Here's Jan Hertz. I think overarching. We've got to find a way to finish the game, and we've got to find some consistency in what we do.

You know, definitely the tell of two halves, but in the end, we didn't play a complete game as a team. And today it got us. You give a lot of respect to Dallas and their team, how they competed. Are you described as an officer of this Monday? Have consistency we can't wake out? No. We've been before.

We'll figure it out. Danny, what was the headline for you? The Eagles collapse or the Cowboys Come Back? The Cowboys Come Back. I was shocked that they're almost 7 to 1 to make the playoffs at this point. It doesn't seem that ridiculous to me all of a sudden. You split with Kansas City and Detroit, and then you've got to run the table. And I know running the table is tough, and it involves Chargers in a couple of road division games,

but their offense is legit. And even if they don't, I just think all of a sudden if you're a cowboy fan, you can look at this and be like, man, we are building something here. And Troy, listen, you could laugh through. Troy is the researcher for the OT, named after Aikman, diehard Cowboys fan. He wanted to remind me of this fact. And it's kind of amazing. If you just give DAC a league average defense, league average is 23.1 points allowed.

So if you just say, what are the... Oh, you mean this year? They had. Yeah, yeah. But what's the Cowboys record over the last five years if they allow 23 points per game or less? They're the best team in football. Wow. The best team in football.

Wow. So, I don't know. You know what? It's just like. If you gave them Derek Henry to. Oh, my God. I bet they might be the best team in football. Wait a minute.

How about the Holmes on the Cowboys? I mean, I like that. But if they have the Holmes, oh my God, they might have won a Super Bowl. Okay. I'm just saying like, really? Really? I knew that. Troy, I knew that was going to go back.

Brut doesn't like those. I'm just saying. Why did you hate that? Yeah, that's my idea. I laugh. That's not why I laugh when you said the playoffs. No, when you said Cowboys fans can be like, oh, we got something going, even if they don't make the playoffs.

Because here I laugh because you know what they could say, we might be where we were three years ago. Sure. With Mike McCarthy. That's the thing. This has all been turned right. Even though you got essentially the same players now, minus Michael Parsons because of your own foolishness,

you, at best, you're getting back to where you were a few years ago. Your quarterback ain't getting any younger. He's not in his second year like Drake. He's playing great. He's playing great, but I'm just saying it's when now. It's not about let's keep building, building, building. it is win now and I don't think they have a great chance

to make the playoffs this year. I agree with you. I think that's the story because they are like I said earlier I'm not arguing they may not be a playoff caliber team now. I just think it's probably too little too late with that schedule. I don't know. I don't think that's the bigger

story. There was one team on the field yesterday that can win the Super Bowl and that's Philadelphia and they have major They have had major offensive problems all year long. One of the best players on their team has been sounding the alarm. Again, maybe in inopportune ways, but he hasn't been wrong. And it showed again yesterday.

They scored with no effort. The first shouldn't say no effort, but effortlessly is what I meant to say, first three possessions, and then could do nothing else the rest of the way. There's no reason for that to be the case. Their superstar running back this year has been replacement level. Their quarterback, head coach, offensive coordinator and star receivers seem to be in some weird proxy battle where we don't know who's on whose side. And I don't see a solution.

The Cowboys, Quinn and Williams is a very good player. He does not remake a defense by himself. Everybody gets right against the Cowboys defense. This team didn't. That's to me the bigger story. Quinn Williams had career high pressures in this. No, he was excellent. I mean, again.

It was great. Because his first game he had what career high quarterback hits. He's playing great. I understand like they're like the Bengals last year if the Bengals defense all of a sudden got good. They can beat anybody. I think they're going to beat the Chiefs on Thanksgiving. You think they're going to beat the Chiefs on Thanksgiving? Yes.

I think going to Dallas on Thanksgiving, a place is going to be rocking. Wow. She's never seen nothing like that. Welcome back. The Chidor Led Browns route the Raiders yesterday behind 209 passing yards, a touchdown, an interception by Sanders. Brown scored 24 points and he was named QB1. Going into the game against San Francisco,

even though Dylan Gabriel has cleared concussion protocol. Shador, not surprisingly, had a lot to say before, during, and after the game, we're going to listen to it all. Just because I didn't get the summer reps, you know, just because I wasn't in the best situation, for me to be prepared to go out there and execute Like, from a summer standpoint, that's how life is. You know, everybody's not in the right,

everybody's not in the best situation, you know, but there's no excuse. You got to go out there and perform. There's no choice, no question. Nobody cares if this was one week of prep. Who cares, you know? So a lot of people want to see me fail, and it ain't going to happen. So there was a lot going on there. I like it.

What was your biggest takeaway from Shador's Day? Shador's saying this can be the solution to Cleveland Browns are looking for. a quarterback. Wow. Yeah. And I've studied it. And I know a lot of you don't want to hear it, but I love it. I love the moxie. I love his confidence. See, as he showed yesterday, I think, sure, through a screen and went 40 yards, right? There's nothing. 60. He can throw a parade over it. But what we needed to see, like we said last week when we were sitting here, we needed to see him look like an NFL quarterback. And I thought he did that. He commanded the huddle. The ball was out of time. He showed poised. He played with

purpose. And listen, the defense did all the heavy lifting. He just. He just, had to be the standard. And that's what we wanted to see because he to do that, he had to earn a second start. And he's gotten it. So for me, I like it all, man. I love the fact that, you know, they're giving him another opportunity. Hopefully he grows into it. Week two, hopefully looks better. But a little, 11 for 2, 20, 20, 10 yards, a tut in the interception. Good start. Yeah, you're way more optimistic than I am. He had 11 completions and the defense had 10 sacks. As much as the Chardor Sanders lead victory, I'd say it's the Cleveland Bronze defensive lead victory. I thought that the one long ball that he had were rolled out, looked very similar to Colorado.

I was happy he didn't get sacked multiple times. He only had the one sack. I thought that was really positive. And in terms of his comments after the game, you know, that you showed that one clip. But there were other clips where I just, I wish you would slow down a little bit with the victory laps that he's taking over one. one team, one game. Do we not know the history of the Cleveland Brown quarterback room, the dawns of Porgatory they've been in?

Look, I've lived the history of the Cleveland Browns. I was there the last time of rookie quarterback won, which was Eric Zier in 1995 against the Cincinnati Bengals. Getting referenced a lot yesterday. Yeah, and that, you know, that didn't work out either. So I'm just saying I would maybe slow your flow a little bit on beating the Raiders who now fired their offensive coordinator and another coach before you take a bunch of victory laps.

I disagree. Yeah, I thought Shadur was better than I expected him to be by a little. And I thought he looked better than Dylan Gabriel. Yes. And so I'm glad he was named the starter, even though Gabriel clear the concussion protocol. I didn't want it to be like, well, he's still heard and we're going to just, like, he's going to get a start de facto. Like, I feel like he's earned another start. I just think that it is very hard for me to imagine Shadur Sanders dominating the rest of the year where Cleveland will go into this offseason thinking they don't need to draft another quarterback.

No, but. So he's talking about getting all of the reps. I don't know who's going to give him all of these reps that he so desperately grabs. But this is why you earn it week after week. What we're talking about is a spark. He's giving to Cleveland Brown's a spark. Now, is he a long-term answer? That has to be seen.

He has to prove that. But you're talking about a defense in Miles Garrett, who you paid a boatload of money to be him. He's been him. So now if you've come into fantasy, you can wrap a run game around this young man, properly prepare him like he's been talking about, and give him an opportunity to thrive. If you're the Cleveland Browns right now, this whole situation with your quarterback room

has been disastrous, starting with Deshawn Watson and on. You finally have a fan base that are really calling for Shador Sanders. Ride this wave, and hopefully he continues to produce. So I love the spark. I don't think he needs to slowdown. I think he just needs to continue to show why he thinks he's him. Is this a wave or is this a little ripple in the water? Is this a first start?

I understand that. And he won, by the way. But I don't think he won't. They had 10 sacks. He had 11 completion. It's not like he went and lit it up. Yeah, but defense is, that's what you're doing defense. You get sacks, and you're supposed to do it.

You don't get 10 sacks, Willie. I mean, that's abnormal. Nobody thought the Raiders had a great office line. We know the Browns are a really good defense. My point to it all is the defense did what the defense needed to do. We needed to see what Shador could do, and I thought he delivered. I also just for the content side of it, people kind of lose their minds on this. They're like, why did Kevin Stafansky barely shout him out after the game?

Why did they go Wildcat? Ooh, did you see Andrew Barry's hug in the locker? group. Like, everyone needs to just relax a little bit. Like, we're going to get to see it. He's going to get to keep playing, and I'll root for the kid. I'll root for him. I'll say that. Because he is good content. I love him. You love him. Yeah.

All right. I'm buying looking for a new watch. You're a believer to L.A. The Rams secured their sixth straight win. They throttled the bucks, 34 to 7. Baker went down with the shoulder injury, didn't come back in the game. Though recent reports from Ian Rappap report and others say that it's a low-grade

sprain, which gives him a pretty good outlook and good chances to start this upcoming week. Stafford continue to do Stafford things, three touchdowns, 30 on the year, just two picks. Here's head coach, two picks on the season, by the way, for Stafford. Here's head coach Sean McVeigh after the game. It feels like the game's slowing down. I feel like he's in total command.

I think he's got a lot of trust in the teammates that he's playing with. And, you know, there's a true ownership. And I think he's just totally and completely present. I think he's being incredibly smart, but aggressive. and, you know, it's just like anything else. He's a fine wine. He's just getting better with age, but he's playing really well. He's in total command.

Yeah, you like that one. I do like a fine wine. To me, if the question is, are they the best team in the NFL? The answer is an obvious yes, and the question is by how much? Like, I have questions about every team in the league other than the Rams. I don't even know what I would doubt about the Rams at this point. If I had to say, what is a weakness? If you've got the number one scoring defense in the NFL with the quarterback who leads the NFL in touchdown passes and a coach that we trust who we know can win at the highest level.

It's like what am I questioning about you and the pedigree of having 30 touchdowns at this point of the year and a defense that's allowing 17 or fewer games? We've seen it twice in NFL history. And it was Brady in 07. He won the MVP. That team was pretty good. and Marino in 84. They lost the Super Bowl, but that was Marino's only MVP. It's just at this point, we're deep enough into the year

where I can say, coach, they're the best team, and I just, the question is how big is the gap between them in number two? Yeah, watching that game last night, I thought it was going to go a lot differently than it did, but they got out on top early, and then Baker throws the pass that bounces off of Otton's arms and then pick six, and then Baker gets hurt.

I really was interested to see. It got away from them. Yeah, how well Tampa could have matched up with them had things just gone a little bit differently at the beginning. But that's the thing the Rams can do to you is they can not only get on top of you, but then they can load up. And every mistake that you make

puts you that much further behind because it's not like there's a lot of wasted series on their part. And it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard to catch that offense, especially with their defense playing as consistently as they played. Yeah, I agree with you, Coach. We turned on in the film. It looked like we witnessed a mugging last night.

I mean, they were, excuse me, they were 21 zipping. It was early in the second quarter. I'm saying to himself, how is this over? I expected to Tampa to come out, knuckles up, ready to fight. It didn't happen. And obviously, you mentioned Baker going down with the shoulder. But I think the interesting thing about the Rams right now, as well as they've been playing, it seems like they can get better,

especially with the, I talk about their 13 personnel. You talk about Devonthe and Pooka being able to win on one-on-one on the outside. And you're looking at the Kairn Williams and the rest of this offense along. Like, if they continue to stay healthy and the way staffers playing, they can grow and be like one. We talk about the light show. They can be the new light show for the NFL. And so I'm just amazed by them. And right now they've planted their flag as the best team in the NFC.

And I don't think it's close. I think they smoke the Eagles right now if they was to play them. Yeah, I mean, also we've seen that game before. So I know Eagles fans would probably take umbrage with that. every time they get in the red zone, they're coming away with a touchdown. Yeah. That's the thing that just, it feels like they don't, they capitalize on every opportunity that presents itself to them. And part of it is building up Stafford's case because he keeps throwing the ball inside the five-yard line and stack it up his touchdowns.

But I really don't see a weakness in that team. And then when you've got a guy like Devante Adams, who you saw the, I think it was the first touchdown where the corners clearly got outside leverage. They're obviously taking away the fade. and then Devante is able to give him a slight inside fake and still get outside of them and score. It's just like as a defensive back coach, you're raising their hands up. What more can you do? Yeah, how are we going to stop this? Huge day in the NFL, a lot more games to get to, including if our faith is officially restored in the Ravens.

Over the Jets? Yeah, we'll ask the question. No huddle time. We'll begin with Bears Steelers and there was a lot at stake. I like my rib-eye medium rare, Willie. Didn't get the story of the ending I was hoping for as Aaron Rogers did not play as he had a boo-boo on his wrist, but that did not discredit what Caleb did. Bears 3128. Rogers did still technically leave Soldier Field with a loss, so I'll take it.

Here's Caleb Williams after the game. You don't apologize, but you do understand where you can be as a team, what we could have done out there. And that's the frustrating part. And, you know, it starts with me and, you know, it funnels down everybody else. So my faith in the Bears continues to rise, and I have never included them in Top 10 Tuesday. I've never said they're a top 10 team in the NFL. I've never said they're a Super Bowl caliber team. I'm not trying to be some Homer here, but like, if you win eight out of nine games,

and we can point to the Patriots having an easy schedule, and we can point to fourth quarter comebacks for the Bears, or one score victories, or, man, can Caleb do it from the pocket? And he had three touchdowns from the pocket in that game yesterday against Pizzards. Pittsburgh. They keep figuring out ways to win and improving as the year goes on. Are they a perfect team? No. Are they even a great team? No. But they continue to impress me and they're getting better as the year goes on. Yeah, I agree. I do think the bears on the rise. I think after yesterday's win, you can now consider them a playoff team, right? And I think this was a team that went

from being a team that's trying to, you know, navigate themselves through a rebuild to now, like, they're legit threat in the NMC. And so you talk about Caleb's development. his ability to process the defense, his ability not to make the daunting mistakes. And the office line is protecting well. They're explosive. They have a run game. Yeah, you can say, okay. But I thought the most important thing that happened yesterday was defensively,

they were depleted at the linebacker position, right? Like, shout out to DeMarco. Shout out to DeMarco Jackson, man. He was the green dot lineback for the game. Them boys had 29 tackles between both of them. I mean, they had a major day defensively against a Steeler team who prized themselves of being bullies and the defense stood up. You put that all together.

You look at this Bears team differently solely because this signature win. So congratulations to the Bears. I got to buy Danny Dinner now. Shellfish Tower. And the Steelers had a chance to tie it up late, and the Bears were able to hold them. That's been good. Their giveaway takeaway ratio this year has been outstanding. The frustrating part about Caleb, you know, he's done a really good job in terms of interceptions,

the touchdowns, especially over the last four games, I think it's seven touchdowns and no interceptions. to play in the end zone where he gets sacked and decides to try to flip the ball. Like those plays, if he can continue to minimize those plays that are just potentially devastating. I mean, it's arguably the worst play of his pro career. Oh, it was. Seriously, not hyperbole. It really was. But I will say, last year he took 68 sacks.

He took 41 through the first 11 games. This year, he's taken 17 through 11 games. Like that play I can legitimately now say is an outlier play for Caleb Williams. Yeah, they've done a great job collectively, offensively, fixing that problem. And it's been a huge part of why they've had the success that they've had. You just want those moments. You don't want those moments that I feel have punctuated a lot of his early career. Yep.

You can just get rid of a few of those huge blunders. They've got they've got a chance to make a significant run, I think. Lead the NFL in takeaways, second in rushing yards, sixth and total yards, and eighth in points. Yeah, they're on the rise. To Baltimore, the Ravens hosted the Jets. And despite a 2310 win from Baltimore, Lamar pretty pedestrian, and only 153 yards. Two touchdowns, though, went to Derek Henry. Lamar's had a lot of lingering, nagging injuries, so he was asked after the game if that's impacting him in the offense.

Take a listen. I don't think that at all. You know, I feel like we just need to execute, you know, a lot better. We get in great field position, but we're not putting points on the board. You know, they have nothing to do with no injury. We just need to put points on the board right there. So my faith in the Ravens is just staying the same. They're going to win that division.

They're going to be the four seat in the AFC. The defense is really improving. And I assume Lamar and the offense will figure it out because Lamar and the offense always figures it out in the regular season. So I'm not downgrading them yet. Oh, yeah, my feeling state of steam is, stay the same as well. The issue with the

the Rebels right now, they haven't gotten better. They're simply stagnant, right? And I think solely because Lamar, he's not being honest. When you watch that game, Baltimore wasn't dominating that game, right? Like, it came into,

the Jets made a lot of mistakes like the Jets normally do late in games and it cost them. But there were times where Lamar could have turned on the Jets and he throttled down. There was times where he stepped up in the pocket and you expect him to kind of have

those signature type plays or do something that we're accustomed to watching them do and he throttled it down. So I'm looking at Lamar, saying, yeah, there was some misthrow, there was some drops. But also Lamar was supposed to put on the cape during that game, and he couldn't. And I think because it's getting cold, their accident would be more protective of his legs and himself. And I think the office is suffering because Derek Henry really didn't get off.

Like the Jets really put up a good fight against the Baltimore Ravens. And I'm looking at Lamar saying, you know, you're winning. But at some point, we want to see Action Jackson. He didn't pop up yesterday. I say my faith was less after the game. And the reason is when he first came backwards against him, Cleveland. Cleveland's really good defensively. So I understand first game back, struggling more against a really good defense. But I thought, okay, a week removed from that.

He didn't have a designation late in the week against a Jets team that struggled in a lot of different ways. And now they're two for 11 on third down. They're two for five in the red zone. They're down seven to three at half time. And really, Aaron Glenn goes forward. Fourth and two from zone 42. In his territory. Yeah. So there are some decisions that that helped them as well as opposed to seeing some growth from the Cleveland game to the Jets game where you're like, okay, this is trending in the right direction. To Willie's point, it doesn't seem to be trending anywhere and it should be. So he says it's not injury related.

Why do you think he's not running? Because he understands that this team was one in five without him and now they're in the thick of the season. He can't afford enough significant injury. You're talking about hamstring injuries. Coach, you know, those things happen like this. They're not a situation where, you know, you're just like he can be scrambling, run and get tackled wrong way.

That hamstring goes. There goes to the Ravens season. So you think we might see him running the playoffs? At that point, because you're one and done. I think he's protecting himself. All right. Well, that's another reason to think they can maybe get a little bit better when the games matter the most.

Brock Purdy, touchdown favorite tonight against coaches Panthers. Upset alert, Brood, we'll discuss. Look at this handsome promo. Yeah. Before you go shopping on Black Friday, this is not a day. discount version, by the way. Okay. The F. F. F. F. F. F.O.T.

I did there. We'll all be here. Myself, Coach, Willie, Greg. 10 a.m. to noon for an F.T.F. O.T. Black Friday. Pull up. We look sharp. Look at us.

Yeah. Look at us. We do. I'm going to have some winners for you guys this Black Friday, too. We're two hours to kick off tonight. And that is Brock Purdy in a Toyotathon jacket. It's called Swag. Is it?

Is it? Is it? Back of that jacket? Yeah. Looks like a right carpet. Still called swag? Yeah. Less?

I'm a lot. I'm a stay. Guys, I'm Brock Purdy. Look at me. Panthers Niners. He's coming off a nice return to action with three touchdowns last week. There, what, a seven and a half point favorite over the Panthers. Coach, I assume you have your Panthers in an upset tonight?

Yeah, absolutely have the Panthers. Upset tonight. And this, if they went tonight, this is there, If they win tonight, this would be the first time they've been in first base in 10 years. Oh, wow. First time in 10 years. They're 5 and 1 in one score games. The 49ers are only 500 at home.

The Panthers, they've been outstanding with points allowed, 13th in points allowed. San Francisco struggled in total yards. They struggled in passing yards. So I like this a lot better than obviously a seven, what is a seven-and-half point favorites. Yeah, people underestimate Carolina all the time. And Zach Manjini, my son is a diehard Panthers fan. We don't. You know, you're locked in on the Panthers.

We win. Yeah, no disrespect to Zach. I feel like I'm going to choose the Niners here. Sorry, Zach. Willie doesn't like you. Oh, I love you, Zach there. But no, I think, like you mentioned, Purdy Statline last week, I was looking to see if he was going to see a gimpy quarterback with a bad toe.

That didn't happen. But for the most part, he looked at fishing in the pocket. I expect the Niners just to be the big adult. Panthers can't handle. Yeah, Panthers can run the ball. So I'm interested to see how the Niners banged up defense holds. up to that. Rico Dotto's been great. Purdy did look really good.

Niners, they're good. They're five and four in their last nine, and they just keep rotating. Win, loss, win, loss, win, loss. If that pattern holds, they'd be due for a loss, coach. I'll go, I'll pick the Niners, but they're upset alerted Jason. I appreciate it.

Hedging my best there. We'll be back tomorrow on FDF.