First Things First - Cowboys beat Raiders, Chiefs playoff hopes, Shedeur Sanders to start, Mahomes Mountain

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

(0:00) Brou grades Cowboys after beating Raiders, Chiefs still have a shot at the playoffs? (26:37) Shedeur Sanders to start vs. Raiders, Should the 49ers stick with Brock Purdy? (43:28) Brou’s MVP Ballot (49:06) Mahomes Mountain (01:09:25) LeBron James questionable to return, Wemby injury concerns (01:21:52) Can the Cowboys make the playoffs? (01:27:27) Danny’s Top Ten Teams, How has perspective changed on the Cowboys? (01:51:28) How do you make sense of the 5-5 Chiefs? (02:01:28) He Said We Said (02:09:18) Tyler Guyton falls down against Raiders after scuffle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Live for New York, it's a show that wants to determine the future of a team based on their coach's hairstyle. Do that as you may. As I said when Siriani shaved his head, no one's ever shaved their head on a winning street. Can the same be said for me just deciding out of nowhere to start rocking a ponytail slash band bun? Am I a little on tilt from the chiefs being in ninth place? Maybe. Who knows? But somehow it happened.

I tried to change it before the show. I was in too deep, so we're riding with it today. First hour. It is what it is. I like it. Thanks, Brew. Brew is just the nicest man in America. No.

No comment from me. Today, Cowboys win. Is it time to start talking about playoff scenarios? I'm here for you. We went from a win over the Raiders to the playoffs. There's a path. Meanwhile, after a six touchdown performance, did Josh Allen play himself onto the group?

MVP ballot. Oh, he's definitely on. I would have to think. I get, I'll be honest, slim pickings. Yes. Toward the bottom of the valley. It's getting hard to find some guys.

And by the way, something, well, what's your next tease? Because I think it leads into it. It's the easiest segment in all sports. A volatile episode of Mahomes Mountain who probably fell off of the ballot. Slim pickings on the mountain, too. As far as at the top. It's a weird year. Right now, as far as the cream of the crop, Patrick didn't play well.

Lamar didn't play well. Darnold, who had been playing great and played terribly. Gough. Gough. Right. Gough. Baker was actually. And Stafford and Drake were good.

Right. Exactly. Josh was awesome. I mean, Josh was like the, but so weird mountain too. Yeah. That's very, just very interesting. Chris Broussard, Kevin Wilde's Nick Wright. We're starting in Dallas.

A Monday night masterpiece from Dak. Four touchdowns was just a drop away from his fifth. 268 yards as the Cowboys climbed to four or five in one brew. Here's Jerry on the defense and his past catchers. Take a listen. I really was pleased with the way the defense and that's restraining myself feeling jumping up and down here both had outstanding games. Pickings was I've never seen a performance like that and it was poetic the way.

that he was making those moves out there and doing it. It was like he was in an opera or something going on out there, a ballet. But I'm proud for both of them. They played really outstanding today. Excellent. Brew? Long-awaited grade for the Cowboys. Yeah, because they were on by last week.

So it's been a while. But first, before we get to the Cowboys. Oh, before. And I got to let the audience know. I knew he was going to do this. Nick fought tooth and nail to keep this out of the show. I just knew you. We're going to do it here.

No, you guys know I look at all of the postgame tape from all the games. I scour it. Yeah. And Gino just says something that was too good to pass. We're starting the show with the Gino's like. This is better than they wrote me off, but I did right back. Here's Gino. Take a listen.

I just got to play better. And I keep saying this, man. If something don't look right out there, blame it on me, right? If it don't look right, blame it on me. That's all you can do. blame it on me. If your kids mess up at school, blame it on me. The car breakdown going to work, blame it on me. It's leadership.

That's leadership. That's why he's a guy so easy to root for, bro. Gee, no! I don't blame all that on you. You are not the sole reason that the Raiders are a tomato can. Pete Carroll's got some blame. The great Ashton Jentzor is a lot. Who you were told was going to take the league by storm by some people. they're all to blame the defense everybody front office okay so they are a tomato can but the fact

that the raiders are a tomato can is not going to factor into my grave for the cow is that because the cowboys are a tomato can or certainly tomato can adjacent we've seen that what's their record against winning teams oh four and one okay so let's not get too crazy you're talking playoffs and all that. But it was a very good performance. And first of all, they took care of business for their man, you know, Marshawn, Neeland. They were, it was a very touching situation, you know, and tough week for them. They wore the t-shirts. That was great to see. And they went out there and did what they needed to do for that. The offense was fantastic. My man, Javonte Williams, almost 100 yards. George Pickens, as Jerry said, was incredible, seedy.

was already barring the drop at the end. He could have had another touchdown. And Dak did his thing, right, four touchdown passes. The big thing, Nick, and I know you saw this, the defense. The defense was pretty good. And the interesting thing is they held him to 16 points. Look, again, it's the Raiders. But those Raiders put, what, 29 on Jacksonville?

So, you know, they put 20 in beating your Patriots. A week one counts. I don't know. Week one counts. They put 20 on the Patriots, all right? So I'm not going to just, you know, throw that performance away from the Cowboys because they brought back, they had six new guys on their defense. All right, we have a graphic for it, but obviously Quinn and Williams.

But whether it's trade or guys returning from injury, we know overshone. He's a good player, Malik Hooker. So they brought back some talent. And Quinn and Williams, one and a half sacks last night, season high. Five quarterback him. career high. So he was huge. We know that trade was big for them.

He showed up. So look, I've got nothing but love for the Cowboys and how they played last night. So I am giving them a wait. Calba fans say, hey, yeah. Cal was fancy, yeah. All the Cowboys say, A game, a game. A game.

Cowboys fans say A-game. All the cowboys say A-E-Gay. Jerry Jones say A-game. A-game. A-game.

All the cowboys say. Excellent. Excellent, excellent, fellas. As always. Great job. Just perfect. Great job. Yeah.

Existently perfect. Barring Wilde's is comments about the Cowboys making the playoffs, they may fade soon. But we're going to find a way to get the crooners once in the other team somehow. No, those guys are

phenomenal. So, all right, they obviously deserve an A. I do want to talk about a potential overreaction to the Quinn and Williams trade, if I may just for it. Because he was great. And he is a really good player. There's no

questioning that, whether or not I would have made the trade sidebar. He's now on the team. Because you spent a few minutes or a few moments talking about the Raiders, I would like to say something about the Raiders in relation to Quinn and Williams. I actually think the, and I obviously was wrong about the Raiders how good they could be this year. Their biggest problem, biggest problem, I believe has been the worst offensive line in the the league. I think the worse than what Justin Herbert's

dealing with, worse than what Cam Ward's dealing with. I think it's the worst. And the only reason I'm mentioning that is the Cowboys detackles of Quentin Williams and Kenny Clark looked like the Eagles de-tackles on

Sunday night, utterly and thoroughly dominant. And I do think Quintan Williams is an excellent player. I don't think they're going to have that level of impact week to week. I think that was a great first matchup for Quinton of. Williams. If they were to have that type of impact week to week, then they could really go on a

run. The team could because the offense is excellent. And DAC has been excellent. And Dak, I know he had the couple weeks where the numbers dropped a little bit. Watching Dak week to week, he has been, to me, as consistent as any quarterback in the league other than Stafford and maybe Drake May. Josh Allen's had higher highs, but he hasn't been as consistent. Patrick hasn't been consistent. Lamar's been hurt. Dak's been great. And that was a great win for Dallas and Pickens was phenomenal.

So I agree with the grade entirely. I don't know if I am as ready as I think some will be to be like man, that defense is all of a sudden not going to be if that defense could just be average the rest of the year, they're dangerous.

I don't know that I even will go that far. I think they took advantage of a line that can't not block and because of that, they don't even try to run the ball. And because of that, Gino's dropping back 30 times when they can't protect him. It's a mess. They're just a total mess. Yeah, I mean, just a total mess.

All right. So do the Cowboys have a chance? Well, 10% according to my beloved playoff predictor. It's from the athletic. I don't actually do it. There are scenarios that boost that up to 90%. Well, no scenario. Are you saying?

Yeah, if they win all that. If they win out, if they win out, if they have a 90% chance. And Wall's winning all the tough games. Bruce like, what scenarios and it's going undefeated? Currently in the hunt. Yeah, I mean, that's by our own metric. In the hunt. In the hunt is just means we decide to put you on the graph.

Right there in the hunt. So I disagree that they're in the hunt. I'm baffled though. Hold on 90% chance if they went out. Yeah, because they could win out and not make the playoffs. Oh yeah. Yeah, because of how far. They would be, what, 11, 5, and 1?

I think it's like 98. Okay, yeah. I mean, it was not. Yeah, I mean, they'd be 11, 5 and 1. If they went out, I believe they'll assuredly be in. Because, right, that would, what that would mean is there are seven 12 win teams in the NFC, and that's not going to be the case. So, yes, if they were to win out, they could be in.

Nobody, Cowboys fans included, expect them to win out. And so I just, Dust, if we can throw them. up the Cowboys schedule and then go back to that playoff picture. The Cowboys schedule, again, depending on how good of a team you think they are, I think the most optimistic view is five wins, the most optimistic, right? That they take kick, that they. That would be, that would be, that would be, that would be a great run. That would be a great, and that would be a phenomenal close to the season.

and five and two would put them at the weird nine, seven, and one, right? So they'd be better than all of the nine-win teams. They'd be worse than all the 10-win teams. And, oddly, when I'm playing with it, it's like the Lions game. The Lions and Vikings games are obviously used. The Lions game is really. Four of their next five games, all those teams are also fighting for playoff position. The four of the, yes, everyone but the Vikings.

So they're not getting like any layups or any, any, the Vikings, again, aren't like. And by week 17, they think Jaden will be back. That's a different game there. And then we'll see, you know, so they don't have, their easiest games or divisional games, which are never, you know, easy games. So then if we go back through to the playoff, you know, graphic. Now, the problem for Dallas is simply that there is, in my opinion, going to be somewhere from a good to potentially very good team.

NFC left out. And that does, and that's with Dallas missing. For Dallas to make it, you then need the Lions and another team to miss, or the Packers and another team. So I just, I don't see any scenario where the Cowboys climb all the way back in to where they pass not only Detroit. And again, we're just leaving Detroit where they are. You need someone else to collapse.

And I don't think that's- The Packers could collapse? I do think the Packers could collapse. I don't think two of them could collapse. Because the Packers Bears Lions play each other a bunch. So there's going to be some wins guaranteed for those teams. The hope for Dallas would be one of the NFC North teams collapses and San Francisco collapses.

But I just think San Francisco has already gone through the choppiest part of its season, brew, like, and they didn't collapse there. And so even if they just alternate wins and losses like they've done for a while, that would be enough for those teams to get to 10 or 11 wins. Yeah, it's just a very slim chance. One, I don't think they're good enough

to go fight. Like Detroit, I think Detroit's better than them. I think the Chiefs are better than them. Sure. I am actually, I'm giving them a chance to beat Philly next week. So, why? Like, I actually, that might be my upset alert.

I'm first dibs on that. Maybe. I'm not sure. But I think that could happen. Division game. They played them tough in week one. You know, Eagles are due for a lot. Like, it could happen. But even so.

Chiefs Thanksgiving. That's a weird game. That's a short week on the road. That's tough. Yeah. If the Chiefs lose to the Colts, I mean, I can't imagine. They still won't throw in the towel.

Like, there'll be no reason to give up at that point. So they're going to be on high alert. So I just think that schedule is, you showed it. That's, to me, biggest obstacle because even if their defense has become solid that's they're not beating all those teams so i i just think that there is a very slim chance you think they could do something k w i want to i i'm this is a what i was watching the game last i'm like i want this team in the playoffs so let me try to find a rationale to get them in i was like oh no lane johnson

this line looks good eagles are due for a loss and aren't scoring a ton of points, that's a win. Kansas City on the ropes, maybe that's a win. Lions are kind of up and down now. Maybe that's a win. And all of a sudden I started to talk about it. The Cowboys have been more inconsistent than any of these teams. That's the thing.

We haven't seen anything from them to make us think they can go on a run. Well, would like they beat? No, but offensively. A few weeks ago, the offense is great. But I mean, a few weeks ago, we were, like, we've thought some of their wins like, oh, okay, here they come. And then they play a good. team and they lose.

I think that if they go six and one, I believe they will be in. If they go six and one, because they would then, six and one. Right, they would, they would get priority over any 10 and seven teams. There'd be no tiebreakers. They wouldn't, the only financial tie could be with Green Bay who also has the tie on their record. If they go six and one, then they, I think we'll get in. So my answer is I'm not giving them any chance of going six and one.

I just, I think that the schedule's too tough, and I don't believe that defense that we saw last night is going to perform at that level the rest of the year. If I did, if I thought they were going to have the 14th best, 16th best defense in football, then I would think, you know what, you can get hot because on any given night you have a top five offense. I just think they're going to have closer to the 25th defense

with that top five offense, even with Quinn Williams and the guys getting healthy. We'll find out, Quick. Yeah, just quickly in the NFC playoff picture, if you haven't memorized. Yeah. There's always a team that makes a surge. What is your surge team?

See, I don't, I, here's the, there's usually a team that makes a surge because there's a bad team. There's a good team that started poorly. I think the NFC this year's different. I look at the teams that are in the top eight right now. And I'm like, man, I think the worst of them all is the bears. And I think the bears are a fine team. You know, I don't look at any of those teams in the top eight as fraudulent. And I look at Green Bay and Detroit at having underachieved.

You know, and so because of that, I just don't. No, sirge? I don't see a party crasher. Okay. I don't see a party crash. No, I see, though, the bears falling out. It's easier to fall out. And they're playing a lot of, you know, that division.

I would buy it if there wasn't a team we all thought potentially was really good, sitting at eight. That's the problem for everybody else is that if one of those teams collapses, Detroit is ready to take that spot. They need two collapses, and I just don't see that happen. My boys might be the surge team. I'm shocked you're not going with your Panthers. It'd be fun if they were.

As the surge team coming off Bryce is 40. Panthers might just win. Just take Tampa's spot. I doubt it, but they could. Well, to be 0 and 3. Well, we'll see. We'll see. Chiefs hosting the Colts this Sunday.

Their playoff chances dimming, but the light is still bright in the building. Here's Andy Reid. Take a listen. We're not quite as negative as the outside world is here. So we know that we need to clean up and we need to do it. But the guys, the guys, the guys. They get it. I mean, some of these guys have been through some pretty good seasons,

and this one, this isn't like this one's lost, Vahe. So we just got to clean up a few of these things, and the urgency level. Obviously, we need to make sure we take care of that now. Here's a reason for optimism. Casey, better than they were last year. Better point differential, better turnover differential. People point to Mahomes, but his passer rating is better.

And more yards and more touchdowns. They're scoring more, they're allowing fewer points. Defensive. Yeah. So should the Chiefs believe they can turn this season around? I think they should, and I can just tell you, again, I guess this is kind of a fake news hat situation. Again, the hat is fake, the news is real. The fake hat doesn't even fit over my ponytail anyway. In the building, they think this team should be, and in some ways is,

better than last years. That they are, last year that they had fundamental issues that they were constantly trying to, like, you know, a leak in the boat that they were trying to fix

in that they did not have a left tackle all year long, and the receiving core was just wildly injured. And so because of that, they were trying to, you know, scotch tape things together. They don't feel that way about this team at all. And I think that's all.

also evidenced by the fact that rightly or wrongly, they could have added Brees Hall. They were like, yeah, we'll do it for a fourth but not a third. Like they think that they do have enough. So, and I agree with them in that. So I do think that they should believe they'll turn it around. I also think there needs to be very honest conversations about why are we not playing, making the winning plays and the winning moments. Why are we making the same special teams mistakes and penalties?

Why defensively did Bo Nix and the Broncos know what Blitz was coming on the third and 15? You know what I mean? What are the things we need to do? And which of that, they have three first ballot, no doubt, Hall of Famers playing. Right. I would argue the only one who is right now playing his best that he can is Travis. That he can. Yeah, I mean, Travis is not playing like peak.

But at 36 years old, he's second of all tight ends in yards. He's having a better year than he's had in two years. Chris Jones has not had a great year. And Patrick has had a great month plus, which gave him the numbers that are carrying him right now. But the last two weeks and the first two weeks, Patrick wasn't great. And so I think that's, you rely on your legendary players to, you know, do legendary things down the stretch. First of all, I think very few NFL individual players or teams would feel like at five and five they don't have a chance. Like I just think athletes in general, at this level, world class athletes, they feel like every time they step on that field, they can win.

We're looking at it, the outside world thinking, oh, they've lost two straight or, you know, this team's... They're not thinking that. They're not thinking that. And imagine now a team with their pedigree. That's won three Super Bowls. That's been to what? Five of the last six. There's no way they are or should be thinking this over.

And then you gave some of the empirical evidence, like you gave some of the stats. They're the fourth best defense in the league scoring. defense. Fourth best. And they're what, eighth in points? Ninth in points. They lost to the Eagles by three.

These are all games. And last year we know they won all these close games. I think I disagree with you to some degree, Nick. Like some of this is just coming back to the mean. Yes. No, I agree with that. Losing five of these games that are one-score games is not normal either. So I think they're going to start winning some of these games.

You certainly don't need to doubt Mahomes or Andy Reed. They lost by three to Jacksonville, three to Denver, like the other two were one score games. Like, they are right there. They are, so there is no way they should be feeling like they're out of it at all. I'm going to invent another phrase. Oh, can't wait. I have a long history of inventing phrases, defense wins championships. They've become cliches.

Yeah. Iron sharpens iron. Iron sharpens iron. When there's an issue in Texas around Houston, I say Houston, we have a problem. People have been using that. Not literally. Put your money where your mouth is. Not literally.

But what I mean is, if you want to talk so much, then maybe your actions and even your financial decisions. Are you telling me to bet on the Chiefs? I'm not telling you. But everyone's saying the Chiefs are done. The Chiefs are going to miss the playoffs. The Chiefs, it's Rams, Eagles, Bills, Colts, and then Seahawks and Chiefs tied.

They're playing. the Colts this weekend, they are favored by three and a half. Yeah. So there's a lot of social media chatter about the Chiefs dynasty being over and the Chiefs are washed and something wrong with Mahomes. But when it comes to time to put your money down, and this has fallen because they used to be. They were the favorite. They were the favorite going into the Bills game by a lot. After the Bills game, they fell to co-favorites with Buffalo. But they're still ahead of the Broncos. They did take a hit by loser to the Broncos.

But they're still ahead of the Broncos. And I think part of that is, if I may, again, at this point, we should get royalties from the New York Times for promoting this athletic playoff predictor. Wait, do you see the money we get from money where the mouth is? Oh, good point. If the bracket falls the way they say is most likely with the Chiefs making the playoffs as the 7th seat. And the Chiefs, and the one seed is New England, which is, again, they're saying most likely, and the two seat is Denver, and it's that game.

And the Chiefs having won either five of seven or six out of seven to make the playoffs, they're like, okay, in order to make our third straight AFC championship game, what we need to do is go to Denver and play Bo Nix and the Broncos, who again, it'll be the third time we've played him in a short period of time. But a game that certainly they would say, and then, go on the road, very tough environment against a quarterback in his first ever playoff start. Which is if you're the seventh seed and you win, you're guaranteed.

Even though they reseed, you're guaranteed it. I think the Chiefs would say, all things considered, we'll take our chances with that. Oh, yeah. And then, you know what I mean? And so I think part of the Chiefs, what is helping the Chiefs in this is, oddly, because of the seasons Baltimore and Buffalo are having,

And because of how bad, like Baltimore's path is a division championship and Buffalo's path appears to be a wild card, they likely are going to be in the harder part of the playoff bracket. That's a bunch of unproven teams, the top seats, Patriots, Broncos, Colts. And I feel like people like Kansas City. If they get there, their chances in those spots. I think it would be any of the teams. Obviously, the Chiefs aren't looking at Baltimore or Buffalo like.

Correct. Wow. Even if they were having great years. Baltimore was having a great year a couple years ago. Shador is starting. That's next on FS1 in the Fox Sports Channel on Sir a second. A game. A game.

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In our YouTube channel, please subscribe. Gianna gave me my password so I can hop in the chat. Answer some questions. Do a little Q&A. Q&A with a cake. Shador expected to get his first start of the year when the Browns take on the Raiders. Shador only completed four of his 16 passes against the Ravens. But now we'll have a full week to prepare.

Here's Kevin Sapansky. We trust our players. Chador is putting in great work. On the field, in the meeting room, he will be better with reps that he's getting. Like any player would be better. But we trust him, and he's somebody that's continued to put in the work, and we'll continue to do so. Super Bowl champion Greg Jennings is here. Is that a new suit?

That looks just marvelous. No, he wears that all the time. Looks great. He has to wear that. There's a happy meeting between. No, all the time. He's worn it before. It's double-breasted tweet or whatever.

It's fantastic. With his body change and that's what it is. What your expectations for Chador against the Raiders? So Kevin kind of hit on it a little bit. Obviously, we want to see growth from him getting his first exposure last week to obviously this week, full week of practice. But what has to be on display is his ability to manage the game, meaning. getting the guys in and out of the huddle, being able to process what's going on defensively, schematically, picking up blitz, being able to assist his offensive line with protection.

Again, a lot of this is going to be a lot because we have high expectations of this specific player. No one is saying we need you to win the game, but we need you to be a reason why we can compete and be competitive offensively. A long stretch to ask, but managing the game. being decisive, being one that makes decisions and not second guessing it, that's what I want to see out of Chador. Again, he has a lot that he's going to have on his plate this week. And it's going to be interesting to see how he deals with it.

Great opportunity against the Raiders, a team that's not a great team, but they can get after you in the past rest. So it's going to be another test for him. Yeah, and I think last week and somewhat fairly, I mean, a lot of the blame people put on the coaching staff or whatever for not preparing him. But and some of it obviously has to land on him. A lot of it lands on him. But if you want to talk about the organization not having him ready, that's fine.

That excuse is not there this week. Like he's going to have a whole week. They're going to do a game plan that fits his style of play. He's going to have a week with the starters, you know, and getting used to his cadence and all of that stuff. I'm not saying he's going to be sensational because we've seen really good players just struggle maybe their whole rookie season. Cam Ward hasn't been good this season.

Doesn't mean he's not going to be a good player. So I, but I, in addition to what you said, he, I don't, and this is hard because this is instinct, but running backwards out of the pocket. He's got to try to stop that, getting rid of the ball quicker, not holding it as long. Now, again, those are his instincts, but he's got to overcome those things, kind of like Caleb. Yes. Now, it took Caleb, what, a year plus maybe? So it's not quick.

But Shadour's in a situation. This is the NFL. Nobody's holding your hand. Nobody's going to wait all, you know, several years for you. Maybe he's been treated unfairly. Maybe he hasn't. Maybe people have underestimated him. Maybe they haven't.

Maybe they've just rightly observed him. Whatever the case, he has to go out there and show something. That doesn't have to be a three touchdown game, but show something where you're like, we see it. This kid can be good one day. And listen, I understand there is a lot

of, in my opinion, nonsense chatter, but chatter all the same about the Browns essentially setting him up to fail. Okay. I don't believe that to be true, even if you do. You must still reconcile

that the entire league passed on him three or four times. He was available for the Brown's pick in the fifth round, which means, again, CU Buffs 5634 on Twitter. I get it. He was awesome at Colorado,

and you're a prime fan. But the league let us know what they thought of him after Colorado. It is on the board that this game Sunday is the only chance he has this season to put on game film. You know what I mean?

Certainly it's on the board. Like, he plays poorly or well or mediocre, and then Gabriel's back from concussion, and he's a fancy he rolls with Dylan Gabriel the rest of the year. So I say, I'll have to say this. This is the most important game of Shador's life. Maybe it shouldn't be. Maybe it's not fair. But it absolutely is.

There was no point in high school when Hugh could lose his job or not get another chance at Jackson State or at Colorado. And now he gets a full week to prepare. He is against a bad team that is on a short week themselves, who I'm not saying they've given up, but it, you know, Miles Grosby is low. Right. Morale is low. And you now have an opportunity for 60 minutes to put on,

put real film out there that could make it to wear, even if the Browns are out on you. Someone else is like, you know what? Worth something. You know, the same type of deal the Cowboys gave up for Trey Lance, somebody would be like, yeah, we'll bring Shador in and see what it is. Because if he looks at all, like he looked in that Ravens game, man, it is, it is, his, his future is murky.

Because I do think NFL teams that were worried, even if it's not his fault, bringing him in, puts extra scrutiny and questions and everything, those worries have been confirmed. Like there is an extra part of Kevin Stefansky's day that he has had to deal with that other teams have not had to deal with about their fifth round pick. And again, that's not Shador's fault, but it is the reality. So it's a long way of saying he's got to be good.

Because if he's not good, like this might be his only chance with a full week to prepare in an NFL game to be good. So I don't necessarily think he has to be good. Just can't be bad. He cannot be bad. That's the better way to put it. Can he bad but not terrible? Gabriel hasn't been good.

Exactly. He's actually been good. This is why I'm saying the management of the game, and maybe not even the game, the offense. Like, can you make decisions, decisive decisions, decisions that even if you want to, refer to your instincts, you are disciplined enough to not do that when you don't have to. I'm not saying don't be a robot.

I'm not saying be a robot. I can't stand those type of players. I can't stand the guy that only does what the coaches say and they forget who they are to the core. Be that. Know that that's there. But what has to be and has to be shown is that you can play on time, that you can be decisive when you get the ball.

you drop back that you can protect not only yourself but receivers as well. Like all of what we saw in last week's game, you can say whatever you want to say. I've heard the full gambit of reasons slash excuses of, you know, backup quarterback, well, they're expected to get in and do this. The reality of it is, and he hasn't had the offensive plays, the reality of it is is we're all professionals. And at this level, the expectation of the other guys that are going to be on the field, your coaching staff, and yourself is, I'm going to be ready, period. Like, so regardless of how we feel about the people who are assisting us in preparing,

they have nothing to do with you preparing the way that you need to prepare. And so for me, this is about Shadur. When you get into this building every day this week, you put forth your best effort. And I'm certain he will do these things and he has the ability to. But this is not Colorado. And I think we lose sight of that because of who he is and what he's meant. Like, and obviously prime. But there's been so many great college players that don't produce on this level.

Right. So this is not an aberrition. This is not just, oh, he's the only one that's ever. No. The reality of it is he has an opportunity in front of him this week. And if he makes good on it, not meaning he has to go out there and throw for 250 plus or two touchdowns, no interceptions. It looks like a regular young quarterback. Like, okay, he can run an offense.

He's a guy that we can put in and actually say, here, man, run my offense. But what is that? So I'm confused. What does that look like? Like 185 and completes 60. Like Cam Ward has a very long leash. he can be bad the whole year. He can.

Drake May was, numbers-wise, was bad the whole year with a few tops of like it. But you hear what you're saying, even with Cam Ward, even some of the throws that he's made. And he has not been great. No, and he's running around doing weird stuff too. We've seen things that are like, man, that arm's strength. And they have a real investment in him.

Exactly. When you're the number one overall pick, you have extended leash that others don't have. Drake May, you being a fan of Drake May, you were willing to take the year and see, okay, when he does get in, do I see glimmers? Do I see something that gives me hope as a fan from your perspective of, I think he got,

we got something. It just seems like. It's hard, man. It's not half a game against the Ravens. Now you got five days. You know how many. You better be pretty good. Wow, do you know how many fifth round guys would love to have

an opportunity to just jump in and start? Most don't ever get that. He did, look, he threw it downfield. Even after the mistakes, the interceptions, a lot of misses, he did show the confidence to continue throwing it downfield. Absolutely. And throwing his greatest truth. Downfield a lot more than Gabriel.

Gabriel's just dinking and dunking all day. So we'll see. He's got an opportunity. Okay. Brock returned triumphantly against the Cardinals, three touchdowns, 133 passer rating. 49ers put up 31 points. here's CMC and George Kittle.

He was vintage Brock. Yeah, and that's a huge compliment. He was poised, made some great plays, made some huge third down throws, kept us in the game, was smart the whole game. I think I've only said it's about two quarterbacks. Like Brock's presence in the huddle is just so elite. He plays the game with this joy that's so infectious,

and it's just so much fun to play football with him. And I mean, especially like, what, five plays into the game. He hits me 30 yards down the field on the perfect pass. Like he was definitely feeling it. I think he's got the confidence. He's got his swagger. George Kettle is a great guy. He's a great guy.

Did Purdy put any QB controversy to, for the record, Mack Jones was also cheering on Brock Purdy. Hold on. You're the vibes guy. Yeah. How those vibes look? It looked great. It looked great.

Brew, I think everybody won in this scenario. Mac Jones proves that he's a great quarterback. Hold on. Great quarterback? Looks like it to me. Look at run the numbers. Run the numbers. Is he bottom 15 in a lot of stuff?

Not what? Great. It's fluid. Great is a little far. Solid. How about solid? He, what he did to me is show he deserves a shot somewhere. Like he earned a shot to start somewhere.

And it might not be for two years. Like Nick brought up a good point last week. If you're the Niners, even if Brock plays the rest of the year looks good, You might want to keep Matt because of Brock's injury. I mean, Brock would want him out of there, but I think it's... I mean, that's human nature, to be honest. You probably would. But what's the question?

Because you, this is really about you. You were the one, you know, pound in the table saying Matt Jones is better than Brock Bernie. All I said was played the best quarterback. That's it. Well, when you look at his contract, it's like Nick's haircut. Got it's got to happen. All right, look, I'm going to give you the most oranges to oranges comparison possible. Great.

We always get oranges to apples and there's a little something different here, there. This right here is oranges to oranges. Both of them this season against the Arizona Cardinals. With Purdy, they put up 41. With Mac, they put up 16. Purdy is brass. The last rating 60 points, 50 points better. Completion percentage.

Three touchdowns, one, one for Mac. That's nice for backup. Yards per attempt, I mean, everything. Well, the past yards, not quite. Yeah, Mac threw for more yards. That's it. I mean, I think this was his first game ever with the team, right? No.

Yeah. Oh, so what? I mean, he played two games, right? And then he got hurt. And then I think he came in and then four Brock was basketball. He started, Mac had a whole week to prepare, like she do it, game playing based on him. I guess so. I mean, and this is. Purdy was coming.

Purdy was coming. Here's the thing Purdy is showing. It's oranges to oranges because of who they played and the stats are there. But the guys who played in this game. McCaffrey was in both. Where was Kittle? Kittle was out one, but Pierceaw was there. Which one was Kittle out?

Don't just say he was out for one. We clearly. I mean, so what? He's got the job. Was Kim Mott put up 25 points? He's got the job. Here's the one thing. I'm pro Brock.

I don't know how I got on the side of it. For the last month, you would have been ready to send him packing. Don't act like now I'm pro-Mritocracy. That's all I want. I said, start the better quarterback. If Brock Purdy is better than Mack Jones, start him. That's fine. But trying to get him in there because of his contract, I thought that was terrible.

We agree. and we've said we're not just going to base it on contract, but that is just the fact that the matter is he's got the contract he's going to play. Yes, I'm rooting for Brock. The one thing that Purdy does have over Mack, and maybe Mack will even a score later on in his career, but like Donald, Daniel Jones, we're wondering what will,

even Dak and Jared Gough to some degree in the playoffs. Like, I'm not saying Purdy's been, Mahomes in the playoffs. But he has shown that poise, first playoff game throws for 300 yards in the win, then leads game winning drives in the playoffs. Right. And in the Super Bowl, he played, you know, well enough. And so even this game, there was pressure on him because Mac did play well.

The Cardinals? No, but Matt, I mean, Mac was playing well. I'm just saying he has the poise where he doesn't let the moment scared. I'm so happy. We don't know if Mac has it. I'm so happy. After two years of me having to carry the Brock Purdy argument torch with Brew. Kevin Wilde's now.

My watch has ended. In the break. I'll see you in Malhoffro. We're not talking about it. Jacoby Brissette threw for 452 yards against the 49ers. Yeah? Something. Tyler Murray started against Purdy.

Dack had four touchdowns last night, keeping the cowboy season afloat. But I assume, Brew. He's on the outside. looking in for this edition of Bruce Ballot. Four, five, and one doesn't get you in. Sorry, Doc. I'm having a good season on it. I told Nick in the break, I think he's gonna think

this is the perfect bruise ballot. Wow. Get out of town. Look, as I said, no, no, no, no. This is ridiculous. No, no, no, no, no, no. Four, five, and one doesn't get you in. As a quarterback.

As a quarterback, the quarterback's responsible for the record. He is. Empty statistics in the NFL. Empty? He is ridiculous. He is on pace to break the sack record that has stood for 24 years. Congratulations.

15 sacks. He's on pace for 25 and a half. He would break it in 16 games right now. Can I have a quick. Can I quickly get mad about this? Yes. This is the rare. I'm still mad at Miles Garrett on his behalf.

Because he didn't leave. Because he wanted. Because he wrote that letter, said, I've always wanted to win a championship. And I'm like, yes. And this is real. It sounds like I'm making fun of Miles Garrett, but I am not. I want to see great players play on great stages. And it feels like, get your money, so be it.

But he is so good at this point. And watching the Patriots, like, congratulations on your five and a half sec, you lost by 20 plus. It feels like all of his effort is so divorced from winning. that we are wasting the prime of a legendary player. That's why it gets my goat. I'm actually a Miles Carrick fan, but this is also a... He couldn't turn down that money.

There's such a thing called life, too. Winning teams have money, too. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, bro, it's not like if he would have gotten a ton of money elsewhere as well. Maybe not quite as much. I like all of it. They will either trade him in the future or they'll get, well, the Browns haven't been good for a long time,

but maybe they'll turn around. But anyway, ridiculous. No, this is not ridiculous. Miles Garrett, he leads the league. What's valuable? He leaves the league in tackles for loss with 22.

Here's how big that is. Only seven guys in the league have double-digit tackles for loss. He's number one by five, and he's played one fewer game in the second place. You guys, you just have me out on an island? No, you're just trying to let Brue go through his thing. You've done enough. Yeah.

Yeah. The pickings are slim. Who am I putting in there? Dak? Jonathan Taylor better be on here. We'll see. Number four. Josh Allen.

He's back in. 28 touchdowns leads the league. We saw him. Three run, three pass. First to do it since he did it last time, and there are the only two ever to do it since the great autograph. Number three, your guy, Wiles, Jonathan Taylor. All right.

Now don't pace the break. the record anymore on pace over 29 touchdowns 31 Lidane and Thomason number two your guy wilds thank you and number one everybody's all-American but the perfect he's still a hand that I want to hear what Nick I mean I totally agree with one through three uh I think Josh Allen's got a very legitimate case for four I would have a hard time I said a few weeks ago that I wouldn't put Patrick on because they were four and four or what I don't even remember what they're right I think it was four and four so I'm going to have a hard time putting Miles Garrett I I don't think quarterbacks are a little I agree they're different I just don't think you can be on a two-win team and

be in the MVP race just a who's hot list I thought right yeah I want to know who should be five because it is fall in love with JSN no so why is in consideration. He was on your ballot a couple of weeks ago. He lost last week. That's why. He lost. Oh, he lost. He lost.

He made a great catch. He made a potential catch in the year. You're right. Are y'all just sneezing at 25 sacks? I mean, no, we're not sneezing at the sacks. Defense a player of the year. Well, that's what he is. Exactly.

Do they not have a great defense? They have a great defense. They have a great defense. It ain't his fault. They got no. No quarterback would all do respect. I might, so let me just real quick, 20 more seconds. I know our clock's way off today.

Apologies. It feels, here's the defense of it. It feels like his case is very similar to Burroughs. Yes. Which is my side of the ball is awesome. We are losing games purely because of things that happen when I'm off the field. Now, Burrow at least, they won half the games as opposed to being the second. second team in football.

But still, I think that's the case. When I'm on the field, my team is awesome. When I'm off the field, we lose the game. And he may break a record that is a serious, you know, important record. And it's still for two decades plus. Coming up next, my home job. I love Miles Garrett. I wish he was on a better team.

I don't think I do. I do. I love the Halloween. You also have a take that. Edge rushers are over. I'm shocked. I don't know. Max Crosby,

not Gary. First of all, fifth is, you know, obviously. Live from New York, it's the show that just wants Miles Garrett on the Patriots,

okay? There you go. All right. But you also, and this got eaten up in the commercial break. You have a sneaky, you have a take like Colin

used to have about wide receivers. Which is like great wide receivers. They're icing. They're not the cake. You talk to you about it. That like the greatest wide receivers ever, aside from Jerry Rice, didn't win.

You have a take that pass rushers. Well, great pass rushers to and in to watch a two-win team. I just want them on great teams besides Benito. Barry Sanders played in three playoff games. Yeah. Like Max Crossby, very good. Quarterback, I would like him to leave the Raiders. Quarterback's the only position we really judge by wins and losses.

Not KW. KW is into left guard. Everybody. KW is into equipment manager wins. Are you contributing to winning or not? Yeah, there's no doubt about it. KW thinks Joe Thomas, what do you ever do? No, I move up or move out.

You got to get out. I'm pro trade demand. Today, Cowboys playoff hopes there is a path. Meanwhile, LeBron's back, Wembe's out. We discuss how good will LeBron be and how worried are we about Wembe? But right now, oh my goodness gracious, hit the snow. Oh, the air is getting a little thin up here. Spend a little too long at the top of the mountain.

Shortness of breath, nausea, wicked diarrhea. Oh my God. Start making bad decisions up at the top of the mountain. Thorntick sixes. Eventually you need to drop down a few levels. Let's someone else get a shot, you know? Matthew Mountain, May Mountain. Let's find out on this week's edition of Mahomes.

Wow. Joe's been around for eight years. I think that's our first scatological humor in the show's history. Not what's humorous. Good point. You go up in that mountain up there? Holy cow. The body is not built to be up that.

I'm just crying from his own. The body is, I get it. We're done. We're done. I never thought I'd want the AI intros back. I might want them back. Here's another thing I would like back. More competent quarterback play.

Because as you can see, some of its injury related, some of its young quarterback, some of its bad quarterback. But here's situation, guys. Like, show me who's off the mountain. That's too many guys. It's a lot of guys. Wow. So Burrow, Kyler, Jaden, Pinnock, Stroud, Dart, all off for injury.

Fields has been benched, I guess. Tyrod Taylor's taking a spot. They're not on. J.J. McCarthy. Greg, we got a problem up there. Uh-oh. I'm telling you right now, we got a problem up there. A little bit.

Dylan Gabriel and Shador, you're both off. Marcus Mariotta. Mike McDaniel tried his best to give Washington that game early Sunday morning in Spain. Marriota gave it back. And Brew, you can go ahead and say it. Gino! No! Yeah, Gino sadly couldn't get back on the mountain.

So, quick primer this week. You can see a lot of right, not a lot of green. It will make sense once we get near the top of the mountain. Bottom row, old guy's dropping. Flack Owen Rogers. To dropping because I watched the game. I also watched the post game press conference. Guys, Stephen Ross, I think you're a good man.

You've done good things in the community. You've also been very successful in business. Maybe consider just paying to his fines for him and letting him skip the media from here on now. Just an idea. Jacoby Percette, that record might last forever. Yeah. Jacoby percent might even 47 completions. in one game. Norm Van Brockland didn't do that. Nobody's ever done it. It's going to last.

James, it just felt nice to have him back. Yeah, he was all right. Yeah, he was all right. It wasn't terrible. Davis Mills is going to get a start again. It was fine. Tyler Schuck, you had the week off, which is probably good for his ability to keep a spot on the mountain. Sixth row, what a row. I mean, this is just a bunch of show favorites. It's Greg's guy, Daniel Jones, my guy Caleb, Brew's guy's guy's Purdy, my guy the Prince, wilds his guy Bo Nix and Wilds guy Bryce Young. I like

Bo Nix feels like your type of guy. Why? Why? Quarterback wins. There you go. I'm not a Bo Nix guy. Well, somebody's got to be. I'll take him. You want him? I mean, I'll take you. Okay, Brew, you can have him. That's why. He just wants something to be proud of. But Purdy played awesome.

Trevor didn't make any terrible mistakes. The team and they won. Bo Nix played great. I thought it was given the circumstance, the best game of his career. And Bryce threw for like $4.50. And they are in the mix.

They're at the very least in the mix. So here's where the red comes. And it's because we have an entire row vacant coming up. So row five. Wow. I didn't want to drop. I thought Baker played well. And I think Brew would maybe agree.

But again, a lot of people had to drop this week. Baker drops, even though he's not the reason they lost. The J-L-Hurt stuff is just weird. The offense is non-functional. They always win. I don't know what anonymous reports to believe or not believe, but the offense in Philadelphia is a problem right now that's being bailed out by the defense.

Jared Gough, a little cold weather, little wind, little hands don't mix. Justin Herbert, contrary to what Danny Parker, would tell you, who's doing all these fancy stuff talking about a stat that's existed for nine years and then calling it all of NFL history, using a 17 game span to stay on pace to be the most ever. Herbert, I understand it's never his fault. I get it. He had 80 yards. He had 80 yards through another pick. He has to drop. Jordan Love moves up. I thought he actually played well against the Giants. Not great, but played well, he moves up. So here's the deal with row four. Patrick Lamar and Sam Darnold were all row three.

And go ahead and reveal row three guys. I made it vacant because it felt like Patrick, Lamar and Darnold all should drop for their performances. But if you look around, like none of those guys really felt like it made sense to move them all the way up to row three, but the mountain tries to be fair. Patrick made it.

Awful mistake in the red zone that might have cost him the game. It had the ball with a chance to either ice the game up three or win the game tied in the fourth and went three and out both times. He's got to drop. I thought that was one of the worst games Lamar's played in years. They won despite it, but he's got to drop. And Sam Darnold, Deering the Headlights mode, fully activated, four picks, big problem. Doc on the other hand played great. So he moves up.

Again, this is some MVP's, good row, row three vacations. So row two, Josh Allen moves up in row two, up to row two because of the six touchdown performance. Drake May played on Thursday night, played well, but nobody could displace Matthew Stafford, who while the numbers were pedestrian, avoided the critical mistake against what I believe might be the best defense in the entire NFL Seattle. A Seattle team's defense kept them in. and he, for my money, at the moment, has a stranglehold on the MVP race. We'll see if Drake or Josh or anyone below, Drake and Josh, can do anything about it.

But for right now, it's Matt Stafford's to lose. And that is Mahomes Mountain, Greg Jennings. Yeah, I'm going to be honest, before I talk about the guy that I want to talk about, the vacant role was very disappointing. A couple of reasons why, because... Try to be fair. You try to be fair, but I was very disappointed with the quarterback play overall in week 11. You agree with me?

Yeah, I do to a certain extent. I think Dax's performance was good enough to move him up to where, you know what, he played so much better than what we saw out of the rest of the guys. He's deserving to be on that role, even if it was by himself. But my guy, Josh Allen, move him to the top of the mountain. Wow. A head of track? Yes. And this is why I say this, because Matthews.

Stafford, you have an argument. I'm not saying that he's not worthy of being up there, but based on week-to-week performances and what we've needed quarterbacks to be, Josh Allen, we talked about this yesterday. If this is the version, we get out of Josh Allen, uh-oh, look out. This is what they need from him. This is what the league wants. Josh Allen, full suit, put it on. The turnover is all of it. We want to see it all. Because it provides that team the best opportunity to win, especially in the postseason. But the performance that he put on, six touchdowns to two interceptions in one game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who've been playing well, slipped as of late. But against your guy Baker, you have this team

as the team that's going to represent the NFC. Like for what Josh Allen has been able to do, he's deserving based off of last week's performance, put them at the top of the mountain. And last thing, Stafford, he was good, very pedestrian, but that win was a defensive win. He didn't make any mistakes, but that was a defensive win. He got away with one because his defense carried him. Josh does everything. So I think got away with one is maybe too harsh

because he didn't make any big mistakes. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He did. A conservative brand didn't make mistakes. It is, I'm going to go ahead and say impossible to get to the top of the mountain, one week removed from getting blown out by the dolphins because you played

poorly, in large part because you, not exclusively, but in large part because you played poorly. Like we are, Josh was sensational on Sunday. There is no denying it. But we don't have to go back far. It's just one game before he was bad enough and the offense was bad enough that Brandon Bean was under assault for not doing more for him in the offseason or at the, trade deadline. So it would have been just too precipitous a rise. And this is why yesterday I said Josh is the blessing and a curse because we blame him for last week's performance. Well, he was bad. What was his numbers? When they scored 13 points and he had two picks? He had a lot of yard. Or two

turnovers. I don't know. I know he had at least one pick. Maybe it's a pick. I mean, that's what we want to see out of Josh. No. You guys are out of here. How many touchdowns? No. No, again, again, but he wasn't, he was not. throwing the ball down the field. He wasn't, he was turning, it was the bad without the good. He wasn't good. It was the, and so I disagree that he's a blessing and a curse. I think he's mostly just a blessing.

However, it doesn't have to. I think he had as many turnovers in that game as Stafford has had all year. Yes. Right? And so, like, I think Stafford's been pretty good. And so Stappard's going to say it's tough enough. All right. Good argument, though, Greg.

Look, say I'm holding this past against him, that might be true. but there is something in my being that can't stomach seeing Sam Darnold next to Lamar and Mahomes, particularly after a four interception game. So I am dropping Darnold. Now who you want to move up? You can move up Baker.

You can move up Hertz if you want. But I think Darnold has to drop for sure. And here's why. We know it was a big. Big game, he goes out there, no touchdowns, four picks. If he's just bad, they probably win that game. If he's just not horrendous, they win that game. And here's the problem.

And yesterday I said, look, he's had a nice game against Tampa earlier in the year. But when you look at the facts. Now you're on my side, bro. I mean, winning teams losing or 500 or worse, Five and O against the tomato cans and tomato can adjacent. Two and three against winning teams. But look at the numbers, the drop. TD the interception is eight to seven against winning teams.

But it was eight to three going into that game. And then he went 0 and four. So, I mean, the C, the Rams. I'm just saying, take away the four touchdowns against Tampa. And I mean, I'm just, you know, like he has got to show that he can do. it against really good things. If they're going to go where that defense wants to take them, that's for sure. So a couple things.

One is, and I think Wiles might agree with me, I feel like not 20% of your rationale for putting darn old on there, but at least 5% is you love the darn old puns. I think that we've expired. I'm telling you. Sands back to those darn old. I'm just telling you. Upstairs. That's dusty.

That is Dusty. That was a Friday morning headline or Monday morning headline. And it was, and again, Brew, if you remember Friday's show, I said when we were doing the game preview that the Rams would make Darnold see ghosts. Yes. I thought that the deer in the headlights game was possible. I also think that the point his teammate, I forget the guy's name made. Ernest Jones. Ernest Jones, where he said, hey, he's the reason we've been as good as we are is true.

Now, the Devens has been great. I think he has been awesome. He's been really good. So I'm comfortable with his placement on the mountain while knowing that come the postseason, I'm going to probably not believe in it. Here's the thing, though. Yeah, go ahead. He has 17 touchdowns, which is pretty good.

Yeah, that's good. 10 picks. The only players with more picks to him are Gnome and Tua. That's it. And 17, it's not like Baker last year where, okay, he led to league in picks, but he had 41 touchdowns. 17 to 10 is not a fantastic race. I mean, it's not.

I mean, Donald has been good. I'm not saying he hasn't been good. But they wasn't, what, 10 last year? There was plenty of, if any of the guys on the road beneath him had just, just balled out this weekend. Maybe, you know, maybe I would have put it. Baker, Baker could be. Yeah, but it would have been felt weird.

He didn't ball out. Yeah, but the, I mean, their running game is what killed Buffalo. But the, and Josh is turning it over inside the five. Go ahead. Greg and I, great minds. I'm moving DAC up to the vacant spot claiming, Dak, quiet MVP case. Oh, oh.

Oh, don't get me wrong. Hold on you just, you slayed me about Miles Gear. And now. Now, we've got twice as many wins and a tie against the team that I think you have going to the Super Bowl and the Packers. But 40 points. So here's a Josh special. You know how Josh likes to cook up with Josh special. 70% completion percentage.

Why? Three touchdowns. This is Josh special. How many of your graphics involve an arbitrary completion percentage number? You're the only one. You have just decided you're like you're like you are like my children. just all of a sudden decided we don't like cheese. I'm like what? I'm like you like pizza. I don't like we don't like cheese anymore.

It's just randomly. I'm like that's not a thing. And they're like cheese is gross. I'm like no it's not. That's you and completion percentage. It doesn't matter. Now we put up a graphic. I know you don't care about it. What? Okay. It matters a lot. Okay, go ahead. Complete and passes. Okay. To hoard it to the guy. Catch you. Anyways, these are great seasons and decks right in the middle of it. Yours is just raw ranks. You'll like most of this, I think, besides the completion percentage.

Score a lot of points. Square almost 30 points. That's great. They throw up for a lot of yards, 21 touchdowns. The pass rating is ninth. And then because it's a rich tapestry, and I know you don't love this even worse, I like to project a little bit when I'm talking about the mountain. coming up, a little bit of a gauntlet.

So I'm expecting them to put up points against the Eagles. Chiefs, I don't know, but going head to head with Mahomes will be interesting. And then golf will be interesting too. So is he, well, Mahomes obviously has him. But in these matchups, and I'm a Jalen Hertz guy, but which quarterback do I think is going to score more points in that game? Oh, yes. Just a couple drops away from week one.

which by the way, just so you know, just so we're clear. Another way to say which quarterback do I think is going to score more points is which team is going to win, right? Well, no, defensive scores.

Oh, okay. All right. Special teams, all sorts of things. Got it. I wasn't quite sure what you were saying. So here's what I think, KW. For the MVP voters,

now that it is a five-person ballot, if they, there are going to be some voters that vote for quarterbacks only, that all five people will be quarterbacks. Assuming I'm right on that and I think I will be, Dak will get some votes if he keeps this up. Yeah. Because it's hard to find to the point you were making, Brew, who are the five quarterbacks deserving of MVP votes?

Right now, Patrick's ineligible because of the team's record, and he doesn't have the gaudy numbers that Dack has, right? Lamar hasn't played enough. The darn old, it seems like that might have played himself out of it. Goff. Right, Goff is. And so. Jalen is number one seed and he's kind of out of it.

Right. And so it's what happened with Burrow last year. And you said going into the year that the Cowboys were going to have to try to do a better version of what the Bengals are doing. So we'll see. I disagree that he currently has a quiet MVP case. Quiet. It's silent to me.

But by the end of the year, he could have a quiet case to get some fifth place votes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. By the end of the year. Not to be the actual MVP. Oh, you know what quiet great pizza place is that pizza place right there? You're really thinking about pizza. It'd be like a pizza place. We're going to go to.

By the way, you never go there. Your kids just the two boys decided simultaneously, they neither one of them like it. As they were eating pepperoni pizza. As we were like making something, I don't like this. Like, why? Get cheese on it? Chicken parm. All of a sudden, they don't like chicken.

Oh, wow. Why? No one knows. Just to be annoying. Coming up back. The Bronx back, but Wemby's out. We discussed. You're really lucky your wife doesn't watch this show.

She'd be very annoyed. They just all of a sudden they like it. I think she was a good. Start your Saturday Strong. Ohio State. Rutgers. This is an interesting one. I like Ohio State.

Me too, but you know, keep an eye on the ball. You think? A big new kickoff. off at 10 minutes Rutgers Ohio State only on Fox. Welcome back to the show, little NBA talk. Two big stories. One superstar is back and one is out. We'll start with who's back.

LeBron ramping up for his debut tonight against the jazz after a bout of sciatica sidelined him. He's officially listed as questionable, but Shams is saying he wants to play and we'll go through his normal routine. Hopefully he plays. Here he is yesterday. I'm a ball player.

The best thing about me and the way I've built my game over my whole life and my coaches as I was in Little League, I've never had a position. It's not one team, one club in the world that I can't fit in and play for it. I can do everything on the floor. So whatever this team needs me to do and more I can do it when I'm back to myself. That's interesting. Lakers this season ranks, they're a good team, but first and field goal percentage, but everything else in the teens and 20s.

And they're point differential if you care about it? is that of a 500 team, but they have a great record. So you can say, you know, they've been clutch or whatever it is. But the teams with them in the standings are beating teams by like 10, 11 points a game. And the Lakers point differential, it's like two points a game. So how dangerous do you think the Lakers are? Well, look, LeBron's told me that before about being able to play with anybody could fit in, which I tend to agree with, but he doesn't do that.

Like he could fit in with the team if he is willing to play a certain way. And he showed us last year he's willing to defer to Luca. I think what the Lakers, like him coming back, I love to see him focus on kind of interior play, rebounding, scoring inside. He could run picking and roll with- traditional power forward. To at least give it a try.

You know, like him and Luca in a pick-and-roll, because Aiton doesn't like to roll as much as he should. LeBron obviously can pop, but he could roll and catch these passes from Luca and Dunk him. That's kind of what the Lakers need. They need three-point shooting, and LeBron's become a good three-point shooter, but he's not going to fix that solely by himself.

But what they are with LeBron, I think, is a second-tier Western Conference team, which contender. Like the first tier is we've talked about OKC is 14-1 without their second best best. player. They're winning by an average of 15 and a half points. Last year they set the record for point differential by winning by almost 13 points a game. They're about to obliterate that if this continues.

They're just, I don't think the Lakers with LeBron are better than them. Denver, which played OKC tough, obviously last year and is better this year than they were last year. I put them with OKC on tier one and then that's it. And then you got the Houston's, the Lakers. the Spurs, if Wimby, and we'll talk about that. And then I'm missing somebody. Are you thinking of Golden State? Not Golden State. I mean, there's Portland.

Minnesota. I'm putting Minnesota in there because of potential. Yeah. So I think the Lakers will be right there on that level. I expect LeBron when he plays to play well. The question is just, and this is it for all players, I can't say at this stage of their career because nobody's been there. But older players is, can you?

you stay on the floor for the next three months straight. So I think that will be the challenge. But I think you'll play well. And I want to know what you wrote down because I saw the, my guess is it's something interesting. But they said that their plan is when LeBron's like got his wind back, playing 35 minutes a game, which just is what it is. Like they, LeBron has been very clear that if he's going to play, he just wants to play. You know, that he'd rather, right, that playing 28 minutes versus playing 35 minutes,

he doesn't think has an impact because of all the, all the work he does to get ready to play is the real strain. Does that make like the stuff he does? But nowadays, very few players are playing 35 minutes. I know. And I don't know if they will play him that. What I do, I found what he said in. I found two things interesting about our preamble. one is, and maybe it's because of sciatica, maybe he's just screwing around,

but that shot is not, that's a different shot for him than LeBron has ever had. So I don't know, again, this is a small sample of, the, the, if we, yeah, if we roll this video, that's not how he has ever shot the ball. And so I don't know what that, you know, again, he might just be screwing around. But we'll see when he plays. So that was noteworthy to me. And what he said was also noteworthy because I obviously agree with him,

which is, and I understand Bruce's point, which is he has not always done that, but he's always been able to do that. He is truly one of the only guys in the league that can truly play all five positions, certainly modern basketball where the center position is not, you don't have to be seven feet tall

and the block the whole game. And I do think he has been wanting to seed on the court control to a guy for a decade. He or nearly a decade. He wanted it to be AD. AD wouldn't take it.

And he gave it to Luca. Like people, some of my frustration with some of the commentary of, oh, the Lakers are rolling. Is LeBron come back going to screw it up? Is it acted as if we didn't see them play together last year? Now, I know the playoffs didn't

go well. But that was not because, like, LeBron and Luca weren't, you know, right. Exactly right. Like what we saw when Kyrie and Luca the first week together and they were like playing hot potato with the ball, about who's going to take the final shots, that's not what happened. The Lakers just weren't good enough.

They weren't good enough defensively. They ran out of gas. A lot of... So I do think their only chance of getting to that top tier, if they have one, is by having LeBron and having him look somewhat like he did last year, And now we'll see what a player in year 23 looks like,

which we've never seen in professional basketball. One note, he's got very little margin for error to miss games without falling. He's not going to be all NBA eligible. Yeah, I wouldn't even. He would have to, if he would have to play in every game the rest of the way except for three. So I think that is, if he plays amazing and he deserves a spot, but because he got this, you know, sort of late start, I think this, it will be the first flaw in that rule.

The 65 game thing? It'll be the first one like, okay, the Ironman of the NBA just like only took three days off or four days off and then he's not eligible. I mean, I'll feel that way. What if, we're going to talk about Wimby in a second. What if Wimby, you know, misses three weeks with this calf strain, plays 62 games, is the best defensive player in the league by a mile. and can't win defensive player of the year.

It's not quite right. I don't understand the spirit of it, but I think it's going to be. Is that what you wrote down? Do you write down something more? No, I've got something else. Okay. News out of San Antonio,

Wemby will miss a few weeks with a calf strain. Spurs coach Mitch Johnson says it wasn't a specific playbrew, but quote, obviously we've seen around the league recently, the calf tightness thing is not something you want to take lightly. That's why you found it, Hobble Watch. Yeah,

I'm always on Huff. high alert. Wemby's career, 129 games played, 48 games missed. Is this a big deal or no big deal? Well, I think it's a big deal. There's some reporting out there that they're being overly cautious that he feels fine, but they're just like, look, because you know what this could lead to, so we want to be extra cautious. Hopefully that's the case. Obviously, every basketball football fan wants to see this guy have a career where he can play, you know, every season for the most part. But it's, even if it, whether it's big or not, if he's out three weeks, it's big because the

spurs actually look like they're a pretty good team. Yes. And right now they're nine and four, I believe. Yes. If he's out three weeks and they stumble and maybe, you know, fall, I mean, he would, maybe, he would bring them back into the playoffs. But I'm just saying that kind of takes away perhaps another potential contender in the West. For him, I think, because, you know, calf injuries, these injuries that are more common now, Achilles, it may be related to the style of play.

There's a lot of people that feel like just because the pace is what it is, you're covering a lot more of the court. You know, your defense is out at the three point line versus in the paint. if I were the spurs, I would start playing him more inside than on the proumina. Not that he won't be on the perimeter at all, but early this season, that first game he had that was so tremendous. And the next few weeks, he was driving the basketball. He wasn't taking many threes. If you watched the last few weeks, they're going to away from him.

He's been sitting outside, but he's planting himself, whether it's in the corner, whether it's at the three point line near the top of the key. They need to me have him at the free throw line, which they were doing a lot earlier, or flashing to one side of the post or the, I'm not saying plan him on the block, but flashing to one side of the other because obviously he'd be effective down there, number one. Defensively, he could block shots if they can keep him near the basket. And I think it would cut down on some of the just wear and tear. For any player to be playing like that is wears on you.

for a 7-7 guy, I would imagine it could be even worse. So that's something I would look at it from the Spurs. All right, micro, macro for me quickly. Micro is, man, he needs to get some reps with the Aaron Fox. Like they traded for Fox, then Wimby had the blood clot. Then Wimby's healthy this year. Fox is not healthy yet. Then Fox comes back.

Now Wimby's out. And because I do think the Spurs have very interesting decisions about Castle Harper Fox. Do we want to keep them all? Do we want to move one? Who plays best with Wimby? Do we want to go for it right now? Do we want to bite our time? So there's a lot that is just in the micro for the next month

and for this season for the Spurs. That is a missed opportunity. For the macro, this is just a lot of ominous signs about Wimby's. All of the guys who we look at, is goat conversation adjacent or whatever. Man, what they all had in common was amazing durability. And obviously, Jordan broke his foot in year two, but that almost feels flukeish.

You know what I mean? It's like Tom Brady blowing out his knee. It's like a one-off injury cost you a year, but that's it. I worry about Wimby. I've always worried about Wimby, and I also think for the actual, you know, goat's conversation, some of it is like getting peltz on the wall and, you know, those things. And it's just the more stuff like this, I know it sounds silly.

Like you be missing 65. Yeah, it's like, oh. So instead of having seven defensive player of the years, he has four, it's just, it's a bummer. And I don't, I hope the spurs are being cautious. But like you said, you have to walk the line of being cautious and being too cautious. But everyone's terrified of Achilles, understandably. You had a good take on, do you just go for it now? If you're, because Dylan Harper.

Castle's a key. College Hoops double header right here on FIS1. This is a great double header. Fantastic. Arizona against solo ball number three, Yukon. Then roll tide, Illinois? Holy cow. All tips off tomorrow right here on FS1.

That's a great double header. We'll lock into Yukon this year and a major way. Cowboys, you jinx them last year. Yeah, you did. Danny Hurley's win have it last year. MFM people and stuff. Cowboys got their fourth win last night. Dack threw four touchdowns.

defense look frisky in Quinn and Williams debut, four sacks, interception, safety, Ashton Genty shut down. Here's a picture of the playoff picture. There's a picture of the play. Cowboys firmly in the hunt. I see 11 teams. You don't have to look at 11. Only 16 in the conflict.

Look at cowboys. Greg, I'm the only one giving the Cowboys any chance to make the playoffs. Are you giving them any chance? No, you are the only one to give them a cowboy's chance. Look, it's really simple. If they are able to win their division, then they'll get in. They can't do that. Exactly.

Exactly. Like when you think about it, look at where the NFC West is right now. They got three teams already at least at seven wins. The Cowboys have only four wins. They have seven games left. You got to at least get to 10. To have any shot. To have any shot.

That's going six in one. and we put up their schedule earlier in the show. And if we have it, we can put it up again. Their next three games, I'm not saying they can't win them, but the likelihood of them dropping one, maybe two of those, and the next three, very likely.

Their margin of error is, it's gone. It's gone. You're not going to catch an eight-win team in your division. No, no. They're going to win some games. It's just, it's unfortunate. And you sadly. don't have the opportunity.

The teams you're chasing, you don't play them. Yep. It'd be nice if you had a Bears game, but they already lost that. If you had a Packers game, but they already tied that. They do have lions. So let me take that back. That is one of the one team they're chasing

that they play, but they don't have the Niners. And that, listen, the tiebreakers don't matter. Like the head dad tiebreaker loss with the Bears doesn't actually matter because unless the bears get a tie on their record as well. They're not kind of the same records of the Cowboys, so that's less relevant. But KW. I do think the offense is awesome, and I do think that

Quinn and Williams, particularly against bad offensive lines, is going to wreak real havoc. He's a really good player, and last night he was great. I do not believe this is going to happen, but the path would be the Eagles' offense is right. right now inept, and you put up, forget 30, 27, and that's enough. You win. We just saw the Lions' offensive line have some issues with Philly. You know what I mean? Quinn and Williams does something similar.

You win that game. You, of course, lose to the Chiefs. And I just think the Chiefs, in all seriousness, all those three games on the road, on a short week when the Chiefs are in dire straits is a very tough spot. Now, again, maybe they could win it, but if I'm giving them Philly and Detroit, and then you go into that final four and say we have to win out. Like, that would be the path. I don't think.

You have to win two. No, I'm saying after those, I'm saying you win two of your next three. No, I know, but I'm saying the Giants is a win and the commanders are a win, so you only really need to win. Okay. But I just brew don't think they are good enough defensively to actually go on any type of winning streak. I think it's as simple as that. Like, you cannot be that bad defensively and stringed together five wins in a row,

which is something they'd have to do. Yeah, look, the defense looked good last night. I don't think it's going to be a great defense this year. But even if it's solid, they just haven't. That schedule is what trips me up. Like, it's just too tough for them to win the amount of games that they really need to win. And look at the luck.

They've lost to the Cardinals, the Panthers. The Bears, the Bears are good. They're pretty good. That's a bad loss was the. That's a bad loss. Even though the Cardinals are, they're pretty tough team. You know, it's not an easy game.

The Super Bowl champs, the Bears. Right. But what you're seeing KW, the common threat is every time they play a playoff team, they lose. Right. Or they talk. And they got a bunch of playoff teams coming up or teams fighting for the playoffs.

Like they haven't, and even the offense doesn't light up some of these good teams. They scored 20 against the Eagles. I get it. It was week one. What did they score against the bears? 21. 14.

The bears aren't like their defense isn't very good. Every time they played a team that's currently above 500, they've lost or tied. That's the problem. It'd be nice to have. They're a fun story. Yeah, they're fun team. And they play a fun style. They do.

They're fun to watch as well. And Pickens is playing out of his mind. Some think that Pickens is the better of the two. No, I was just. just thinking out of wondering. Is Picking's wondering, is he better than CD? Brew, a receiver like yourself thinking that makes me his talent.

His talent has always been top nine. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying, I'm wondering. Live can work. The show that's calling out Danny having great hair. Wow. That was supposed to be private.

You can't really, because he got this nice haircut. And I far be it for me to talk about it. He wants hair. You have no gray hair. No, I have a lot in my beard. But not in my hair. Wow. You have a three-year-old and a five-year-old and you work with this guy every day.

It's like a presidential term. Wild doesn't the exact same? Well, I guess, you have gray hair too. I think you should have gray hair. Yeah, like Anderson Cooper, dude. It's all gray. I am significantly younger than both Anderson Cooper and you, though. Wow.

I'm just, wow, damn. Significantly young than you. I mean, it's funny. Sommel-shot. Significantly younger. 10 years. Yeah, a full decade. Ten years?

Ten years is a good. I'm 39. Almost. But no, he's not, though. You're not 49? No, he's 50. No, I know, but close enough. He's not even close enough.

Yeah, close enough. It's significant. First thing, first over time. Today, did the Eagles play their way to the top of top 10 Tuesday we discussed? Meanwhile, the number one reason why the Chiefs can turn their season around, because they might actually not be that bad, even though they are 5 and 5. But right now, we're starting with the Dallas Cowboys.

They went into Las Vegas, came home a winner. That's the good news. Upcoming schedule, tricky. That's not the good news. Eagles on Fox, Chiefs on Thanksgiving, and then in Detroit to play the Lions kickoff December. Here's Dak Prescott. Two elite guys that complement each other,

that build off of each other's energy. One go makes a play. The other one wants to make a play. Tonight was fun. And just, as I've always said, right, I'm just trying to get the hands, get the ball out of my hands to these guys, be like a point guard, and let them go do what they do best. And tonight was a good example of that. Danny, did last night's game change how you view the Cowboys? No, not at all.

I think it'd be kind of crazy to change your opinion of the Cowboys because they beat the Raiders. I think that would. Some people thought the Raiders could be cool. Yeah, sure. But 11 games ago, right? We have a large sample size now to understand that we should change our prior convictions on football teams. So, no, I don't, the Raiders are one of the worst teams in football, and Dallas thoroughly dismantled them. And Dallas blew it.

Like, I think you guys have been talking about a path to the playoffs and in the hunt. And sure, that's all reasonable. That's kind of what this time of the year is for. But they lost to Carolina. They lost Arizona. Yeah. Like, they blew it. They blew it.

They lost to Chicago. They lost to Chicago. I mean, just keeping it real. I think they should be at the beach, Chicago. And certainly if you're a real contender, you should. So last night, I don't think is enough. Talk to us in a couple of weeks, maybe some big wins. But I will say, if the question is trying to find a way to be positive about the Cowboys,

I don't think it's for this year. I think if you just look ahead to next year, you're like, all right, the coaching hire has gone better than we all thought. The Pickens trade's gone better than we all thought. we all thought. The Micah trade, while I still disagree with it, it has allowed them to sign some other pieces. And now they have two first round picks, where if you hit on them, probably on the defensive side of the ball,

and DAC looks like a legitimate top eight quarterback in the league, well, now if you like your coach, you like your quarterback, you like your offense, and you hit on these draft picks. You didn't mention the Quinn and Williams move, which as of yesterday looks. He was excellent yesterday. Now, you're trying to thread a pretty tight needle there with, like, the age of some of, with Kenny Clark and Williams and also hitting on defensive rookies and we're projecting

the next year and they have to sign pick-ins. Like, there's still a lot of things that have to go right for that. But I think this year is over, but the three-year forecast, if you will, for the Cowboys, I do think there's legit reason for optimism on that front. Here's the problem with that. That's not a bad take. look toward the future but really all that does

is get them back to where they were two years ago two, three, four years ago when they were winning 12 games and they were good but they just couldn't get it done in the big moments with this quarterback now it's a different coach

but it was a Super Bowl winning coach like they were so bad last year because of injuries they've been bad this year and like you said, blown games they should have won that now we're just looking

at, you know what? If they could just next year get a few guys improve the defense and be pretty good, then we'll look that's where they've been. And that's the problem with the Cowboys. Like they you've talked about a lot.

They've reset. Yes. The timeline. So now it'll look good if, oh, next year they win 12 games and get beating the second round playoffs it'll look good but when your quarterback is that Prescott in his I don't know what it'll be 11th 12th year at that point that's not good enough no that was they had three straight years of essentially that and it was it was enough put Mike McCarthy on the hot seat

if they have that year next year it might be enough to win Brian Schottnheimer coach of the year yeah you're like just but in the grand scheme right the expectations that that it doesn't change that you'll have them permanently s bob and permanently skeptical of them on that front. Last night's game didn't change how I view the Cowboys with the caveat of, I am open to the possibility that what I am attributing mostly to the Raiders' total incompetent offensive line, which if we are, and I said this earlier, like when we argue about Justin Herbert and his offensive line, I think we saw last night the worst offensive line in football.

Herber might have a second worst. I think the Raiders, it's the worst in football, and that's when it was healthy, it was bad. It's gotten injured. It's way worse. Probably shouldn't have drafted Ashton Genty. Yeah, well, I mean, I think the idea there was that he would be able to make do. He has not been able to make do.

Chip Kelly's been bad, whatever. That's not the point. Point is, I am really interested in how this Cowboys defense holds up against the Philly offensive line that, granted, won't be the same without Lane Johnson. and then against the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, because I do think that while the math on making the playoffs might be really hard, them being a very difficult team to beat could be real

if the defense can just be average. Because I do think this is one of the best offenses in football. Dax's having a great year, and this is the best pair of receivers he's ever had. One of the best in the league, arguably the best right now, like this season. Arguable. Yeah, sure.

I mean, Phillies is great, but they're not being utilized. And it's certainly arguable. And so, and your guy, Javante Williams has been, like, so the offense is, it is hard, and there's a point you've made for a long time, but it's true, despite the fact that you've made a long time. It happens to be true. Wow. Thanks, buddy.

If you have a great offense, your floor should be very high. Cincinnati last year. Right. Cincinnati kind of tested that theory of or pushed it to the brink. The Cowboys are doing something very similar. Cincinnati, we had no reason to believe they were going to have a mid-season defensive renaissance. The Cowboys, to your point earlier, Brew, have gotten a lot of guys back from injury

and traded for Quinn and Williams. So maybe, again, this is glass very half full, maybe they can have the 15th best defense moving forward. in which case, if you have 15th best defense and the fourth best offense, you are more than live in every game. No, I think that's a great... Danny, you don't, like, I'm with Nick

in that the defense does make you wonder. I get it. It was the Raiders. This graphic is the guys they got back yesterday. Six new players on defense, whether it's coming back from injury. And no, I mean, overshone is good. Hooker's been good.

Obviously, Quinn and Williams. Logan Wilson's okay. Like, I mean, no, those are significant. names that just make them pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, I think they make a big difference. So, like, if it's, can the Cowboys play spoiler? Absolutely.

Like, can the Cowboys win a game where they're a six point underdog? Of course. The problem is they dug themselves too deep of a hole. They have to go six and one. They have to go six and one and they don't have an easy schedule. But we should throw it up, right? Because the schedule is, if it is find six wins, what team in the league with that seven-game stretch would you even pick to go six-and-one?

Like, is there one? No. Like, would you pick the Rams to go six-and-one in that schedule? No. Would you pick Philly to go six-and-one? Obviously, Philly can't play itself. But you understand what I'm saying. Like, if instead of Philly it was Dallas.

Like, it's such a tough schedule that I don't think we'd pick anyone to go six-in-one. So I certainly am not picking the Cowboys. If they beat the Eagles, which and they... They can beat the Eagles like in any given week. And it's a short weekend that games in Dallas. No. Oh, it's in. Thanksgiving's in KC.

Oh, Thanksgiving's in Kansas City. Okay. Well, that's a little... Am I wrong on that? Yeah, no, you're definitely wrong. Oh, I'm sorry. Thanksgiving's always in there. As soon as I said it, I was like, I would say.

They stay there. I mean, they stay, you guys travel. We'll see how this Colts game is. Wow, optimism. He's dying to get the Cowboys. I'm trying to find a path. Can I say something real quick? It's like a, that also, my mistake there reveals that somewhere I think the Cowboys are a good team.

Because the reason I was saying, because I've said all throughout the day that game's in Arrowhead. Yeah. Because I know that every game the Chiefs have left against teams with a winning record is in Arrowhead. I just like, note the Colts game, the Charger game. And so in my head, I just thought the Cowboys have. were in that group so that even though obviously Thanksgiving is always in Dallas. So that does. They're a dangerous.

And all of a sudden like, oh, we got two loose to the lions and went out. Dangerous. Yeah. I think I think they're. But to Danny's point, they've lost game. They, I get it. Carolina is improved. If you're Dallas, you're supposed to beat Carolina.

This isn't a great Carolina team by any trade. You're supposed to beat Arizona. Chiefs who will be in Dallas for Thanksgiving are five and five and they're preparing for the Colts. in danger of missing the playoffs? Maybe. Their Super Bowl odds are still top five. So where do they fall on Top 10 Tuesday? Let's find out in this week's episode of Top 10 Tuesday.

Get ready for a perfect top 10. I debated this one for a long time. And this is about as much respect as I could possibly give to, as Nick has pointed out, I'll show the nine seat in the AFC. Still be thinking that they are the 10th best team in the NFL. Mahomes has been bad now for a couple of weeks. has not been bad all season. I expect them to turn it around, but let's just get right to the ninth team if we can, because this game is wildly fascinating on a number of levels, because

the number one offense in the NFL coming off of a buy goes to Arrowhead, and it's a three-point spread in the game. So I don't know what you're going to be able to do to contort yourself into thinking that the Chiefs are still contenders or that they deserve to be on these lists if they lose that game to Indy. And it's just an awful spot. But I will say the last time I thought that the Chief's offense just didn't look right and like, man, can they win a shootout? They won 3720 against Baltimore. So maybe this is the game that the Chiefs offense, for a real quick, when you say it's an awful spot, what do you, for who? The Chiefs need a win. Yeah. And they are playing the number one offense in the NFL coming off of a buy.

That's not an easy opportunity in a must-win spot for Kansas City. There's lots of easier opportunities, I would think, on the schedule there. So I just don't think it's a good spot for Kansas City. Coming in at number eight, the Detroit Lions. It's probably the worst game I've seen Jared Gough play as a lion. Fewest points they've scored since October of 2023 when he was there. It was his lowest completion percentage game, third lowest pass-er rating game since he's been in Detroit. I just can't drop them too much for losing to a team that I think is,

really good, especially on the defensive side of the ball, since they got Jalen Phillips. We'll talk more about Philly a little bit later, but this is the lowest I've had the Lions all year at number eight. Coming in at number seven, Wilds's New England Patriots on an eight-game winning streak. And what they have done on the offensive side of the ball in particular in this eight-game win streak is remarkable. These are their ranks over the last eight games on offense. Lots of firsts across the board. Yards per pass, point differential. They've been bludgeoning these teams.

15 passing touchdowns in eight games, scoring 29 points per game. It's an offense and a quarterback that no one wants to play right now. They have played the second easiest schedule in the NFL. Coming in at number six, another team on an eight game winning streak. Welcome to the top 10 Tuesday for the Denver Broncos. Broncos fans kept saying, are they going to make it? When are they going to make it? Listen, you beat the Chiefs and you get into that spot and you now have an eight game

winning streak, and we did the offense for the Patriots during their stretch. Let's look at what the Broncos defense has been during this street. This is what they've held opponents to over eight games. You're completing less than 60% of your passes. They've allowed six passing touchdowns in eight games, a couple of those without Patrick Sartan. 35 sacks. Every time you watch a Broncos game,

they're talking about them versus the 84 Bears for the pass rush and the sack record. So the Broncos defense is... This is their first time in your top 10? First time in top 10, all year, all year, make their debut at number six. hey, I wanted to see him do it against the real team. I was not, the Jets game, the Giants game, the Raiders game. They just were not impressive. That Chiefs win was very, very impressive.

Coming in at number five, Bruce Ravens. Yeah. I think it's actually a good sign for Baltimore that they can win that game against Cleveland in that fashion. Lamar was awful, and the Brown's defense was disrupting them all game. Miles Garrett, the defensive line, Derek Henry couldn't get going. It was just like everything was. difficult for the Ravens offense, and they still won because the Ravens defense is continuing

the repeat of last year's trend of starting horrible and looking like, I don't know that they'll be the best defense in the NFL by the end like they were last year, but they're clearly a difference-making unit. And so the fact that they can win a game when Lamar doesn't show up at all, because I know Lamar will show up, still makes me think that their best is really, really scary. Coming in at number four, the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen, my Super Bowl pick, a six-touch performance, an awesome bounceback game. The Miami game was weird, and it's a totally fair knock against them, but when they're two weeks removed from beating Kansas City,

and that final score was closer than it should have been, then they put up 44, because people are talking about too many interceptions, too many turnovers, I'll take it. If he can have six touchdowns and score 44 points in a game, I still will go back to their best is arguably the best in the entire NFL. Does that include their defense? Like, yeah, man. Good offense beats good defense.

That version of Josh Allen can basically beat anybody. Well, no, I agree. I agree that that version of Josh Allen can basically beat anybody. I don't know. I don't, if you were to say this team is going to play its A plus game, you know, is that the best team in football? I think it's hard. Like, if everybody's going to play their A plus game, I think it's hard for a team whose A plus game is still just a mediocre defense. I'm not even necessarily...

What would you say about what their defense did in that game against the Chiefs? Let's call that Buffalo's A game defensively. Yeah, that would be good enough. I mean, sure. I also don't... The Chiefs Bill's regular season, postseason thing is just so weird that it feels like for both of them with silo. But that's a fair point. For all that Josh Allen has done this year in terms of being inconsistent,

he has more yards, seven more touchdowns, and a better pass rating, albeit with three more turnovers through 10 games than his MVP season last year. He's been very good this year. Coming into number three, the Seattle Seahawks, I'm not going to drop you for that game against the Rams significantly. I dropped them one spot. And this is my other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play graphic? Other than the four interceptions, how was that game against the Rams?

They were incredibly impressive. Yards, first downs, plays run, time of possession. The fact that you can have four interceptions and have a game-winning field goal, albeit from 61 yards, for a shot to win that game. Most teams get blown out in that spot. The Rams had a touchdown drive of three yards and 25 yards in that game. I can't wait for the rematch in Week 16, and I think it might be an NFC championship game, Seahawks and Rams.

At number two, the Philadelphia Eagles. Fun fact, the player who leads the NFL in pressures the last two weeks is Jalen Phillips, who is tied with Micah Parsons. Micah Parsons, it cost two first round picks, a third round pick and the largest defensive contract ever. For Howie Roseman, a third round pick. For Jalen Phillips, they're allowing 14 points per game, Philly, in their last four games. So we talk about the offense, their defense is rounding into form.

And at number one, the Los Angeles Rams, here's the profile of the Rams. Their defense is second in the NFL. They have the second most takeaways. Their quarterback has most interceptions by far. Most touchdowns. Most touchdowns by far. Excuse me, those touchdowns by far, 27 touchdowns. And he hasn't thrown an interception since week three.

It's pretty good. Second scoring, second and takeaways, number one in touchdowns, no interception since week three. Brew, as always, a perfect top time. Well, not perfect.

Whoa. Not bad, but Eagles got to be number one. I don't know by that. I mean, Nick has said it, and he's right, winning is a skill, and they know how to win. They have beaten, obviously, the Rams.

They have beaten the Chiefs. they have beaten, you know, Tampa Bay. And I know everybody's, the concern is certainly not the defense. Because the last two weeks they've given up 16 points. One of those teams was Detroit, which was averaging 30 points a game, still is. And then the other team was Green Bay, which has, you know, offensive capabilities. So the defense is great. The offense has already proven.

I get it. They have a few bad weeks here and there. How many they put up against the Rams? That great, what, second ranked defense? Yeah, that was a while ago, but 33. It was this season. All right, two years ago, 33. That's true.

How much they put on Tampa Bay? And Todd Bowles, who's a great defensive mind, 31. Jalen Hertz has shown us time and time again. When I got to get points, I'll get points. My receiver might be mad. I'll get points. I'll get him the ball, whatever. So I just think until proven otherwise,

or somebody else looks phenomenal. And to your point, the Rams were fortunate to beat a Seattle team to have four picks. So I don't think that's a feathering their cap. I'm putting the Eagles at number one. Brew, yesterday, I was firmly on Wildside that he's obviously the Eagles guy. But you are making a strong push

to really elbow Wilds off that corner. And I'm bad as it's Packers. So, listen, there's a weird and I think very dumb thing going on. And it's led by some local and national radio hosts and podcasters about trying to create a real Patriot chief dynasty rivalry. Where Patriot fans are like, you're a dynasty. If you miss the playoffs, you're not going to, I'm not, you know what? I'm staying out of that because this year, I'm Team KW.

I believe in your pets. I'm reaching across the aisle. And I think Danny Parkins' just disregard for the New England Patriots is insane. They're seventh. Exactly. They're seventh. They beat in Buffalo, the fourth team. They have fewer losses than the Bills.

Their quarterback throughout the year has played better than the Bills. Their defense is better than the Bills. Their coach is better than the Bills. bills. I don't know. You gave Denver went from off all the way to six because you have put a hard ceiling on the Patriots that they don't deserve. It's not a hard ceiling, Nick. The Patriots have played the second easiest schedule in football. Has Buffalo played a hard schedule? Buffalo beat the chief. Yes, and lost to New England. I'm not arguing that the chief should be ahead of Buffalo. No, I understand. But in terms of what New England, but in terms of what New England is, you know, I understand. But in terms of what New is accomplished. They blew out the Panthers, Titans, and Browns. The Bucks game, the Falcons,

the Saints, the Bills, the Jets. Those wins are by a total of 21 points. They beat the dolphins who beat the Bills and they beat the Bills. Okay. I'll tell you this. They've had the second easiest schedule. They have the second easiest schedule the rest of the way. You know who has the easiest schedule, by the way? The Bears. You know where they are in my top 10? They're not on the list. Yes. That's, hold on. I got it. But the Bears also aren't behind a bunch of multiple teams they've beaten. And if you show that Patriots easy schedule again, one of their wins is the Falcons.

What do you think what happened to the Falcons played the Bills, the mighty bills? I don't know, maybe they win by double digits. What do you think what happens if the dolphins played the bills? I don't know, might be it by double digits. And most importantly, what do you think would happen if the Patriots played the bills and said, you know what, we'll come over to your house to play.

Patriots might win. You got it. Do it again. Do it. Do it again. Do it again. So they have to sweep Buffalo. Yeah, one game. They won by three.

Do it again. Right. But here's the problem. If the bills beat the Patriots, that one game will validate. You will say, we'll validate it. Yeah. I'm sorry. If you win your division for five years in a row, that's a little bit more of a body of work.

Well, then a team that's done it against the second easiest season. Because the chiefs have won their division nine years in a row and you put Denver ahead of them. They're five and five, Nick. There's a value in effort. I've got your back. Yeah, you got to stick together. We're better than the bills. You're better than the bills.

I don't even need to raise my voice. I'm positive that we are better than the bills. Positive. Well, we played, and we won. The point where a real argument on why the bills can be great is that Josh Allen needs to score six touchdowns a game. And if he does that, they are good. I agree.

As far as outliers go. I think it's there. Coming up next, that's Tuesday's edition of Top 10 Tuesday. The Top 10 Tuesday, Shador gets the start. Can he make a statement against the Raiders? That's next on first things first, overtime. Welcome back. We begin in Kansas City.

Andy Reid met the media yesterday to try to calm the nerves. After the Chief's loss, they are third place in the AFC West. Should have resulted in a haircut for Nick Wright, but a little bit of a coward. Andy Reid says it's not time to panic. Take a listen. We're not quite as negative as the outside world is here, Vahe, so we know that, well, we need to clean up and we need to do it. But the guys, they get it.

I mean, some of these guys have been through some pretty good seasons, and this one, this isn't like this one's lost, Vahey. So we just got, we got to clean up a few of these things. and the urgency level. Obviously, we need to make sure we take care of that now. So trying to make sense of the five-and-five chiefs. We're a week removed from UCA, and they're the most dangerous team in the AFC.

Yeah. Yeah, I've had them very high up on the rankings all year. You've been rolling our eyes all year. So I guess I'll start with you, Greg. How do you make sense of the chiefs being five-and-five? They're an average team right now. But do you actually believe they're an average team or do they have an average record?

I mean, I believe that they, They have an average record, but this isn't the standings. It's about basically who you have on that team and what they're made of. And we're about to find out because we talk about this team being the scariest team, even though they were, they had a losing record because of the quarterback that they have under center, the pedigree that they have across the board throughout their personnel, coaching staff, alike. And so I give them that because they've earned that right.

the reality is setting in really fast for this team. And we're going to find out what they are. I just watched your top 10, and you have them 10th. That's right. Behind a team that they play this week. And I wonder what happens if that team, the Colts, beat that team. The Chiefs will be out. And would you give the Colts credit, or would you say, you know what?

They beat the Chiefs, but I still don't believe in the Colts because the Chiefs aren't that good. And so staying on topic, this is a team that gets the benefit of the doubt because of what they've done in this league over the past five, six years. Yeah, I agree with Greg. I think the issue right now, when you look at them at five and five, you realize they're not elite, but they still are dangerous, right? You have a top tier offense, the best quarterback in the league, our league with Patrick Mahomes. The issue right now for the Kansas City Chiefs, they can't close games. That's the issue. Here it goes right here.

I got a graphic for you. If we could pop it up real quick. This is what they were in 2024, 11 and 0 in one score games. In 2025, they're 0 and 5. They can't close. And so when you talk about what's the difference with the Chiefs compared to what they were last year right now, when it's the fourth quarter, Patrick Mahomes gets outplayed, the defense can't get takeaways, and they can't close games.

So if you're the Chiefs right now, yeah, I'm with you, DP. They have enough of offense. You know what they're built like on defense. But right now when it rubber hits the road, they can't answer the bell. And that's a problem to come January. If they make it to January.

So if that's the case, you're saying you still believe in them? No, what I'm saying right now, to your point, when they play the Colts and they got the Cowboys, we're going to see what this team is really made of because their backs against the wall. So I think at one point I started this season saying

it was an end of a dynasty. You should have stuck with that. I should have stuck with it. But then they put a whooping on the Detroit lines. I said, okay, my bad. But now I'm sitting here saying, I don't know what to believe. Listen, this week is going to tell me who they really are versus the Indianapolis cult.

And I think it's a mature thought process to have an opinion and then get new information and then be willing to adjust that opinion. I do, I think everybody gives them the benefit of the doubt when they have all the rings on their fingers, right? It's kind of impossible not to. I wanted to look into the data because I do think that they are better than their record suggests. It's not the old Bill Parcells thing you are what your record is. So like last 30 years in the NFL, if you score more than 25 a game while allowing less than 20 a game. Right?

Okay, so you're scoring more than 25 and you're allowing less than 20. Typically, through 10 games, you've got 7.8 wins. You're 8 and 2. Of the 89 teams that fit that barometer, 74 of them are 7 and 3 or better. Only 4 have been 5 or 5 or worse, and all but 3. of those teams went on to make the playoffs. So I know that's a lot of numbers to digest here, but my point is, I think it's going to even out

over the course of the year. Like, they probably should not have had that record in one score games last year. They probably should not be winless in one score games this year. And their point differential, how good their offenses and how good their defense is, suggests they're better than a 500 team. And when we play the whole season,

they'll be in the playoffs. And then if they're in the playoffs, you guys going to feel comfortable picking against them? So I'm not because I remember the game against Baltimore. When they had to go to Baltimore and Travis Kelsey was the bull in the ring and he stuck it to the Baltimore defense in the second half, the Baltimore Ravens played outside themselves. They ended up losing that game.

So no, I'm not going against the Chiefs in the playoffs. But what I would say is your tape is your resume. And right now, what we haven't seen this team play to the standard in which they set for us to fall in love with them. So I'm worried about the defense. And I'm also worried about Patrick Mahomes because he walked off that field with his head between his legs because of the costly interception and how this offense looked in the red zone. So, yeah, there's some legit reasons to be concerned about who the chiefs are right now. Yeah, and you have teams across the league specifically that they have on their remaining schedule that are no longer fearful of what we are fearful of. Denver, they're playing in December. Denver already beat him. The charges already beat him. Sure.

Yeah. So, and if you have this opportunity with the chief. The Kansas City Chiefs sitting at 5 and 5, and you have the Colts up next, the Cowboys. Who could you have to believe the Colts are thinking, we got to try to finish these guys off and put them in a place where they're 5 and 6. And then it looks even more daunting, almost impossible. You sound like a man who wants to pick the Chiefs to miss the playoffs.

No, I'm not doubting. It's okay. That's what you want. I'm not downing the cheats. I told Nick I wouldn't do that this year. See? However, they're making it very hard for me to believe in them. Number one offense in the league off a by comes to Arrowhead this week.

Massive game against Indianapolis. Let's go to Ohio. Reports out of Cleveland. Shador Sanders is your starting quarterback. Vegas is your opponent than Baltimore. He's replacing Dylan Gabriel, who is in concussion protocol. 47 yards in interception and two sacks in spot duty replacing the injured Gabriel. Here's head coach Kevin Stefansky on Shador.

We trust our players. Shador is putting in great work. On the field, in the meeting room. He will be better with reps that he's getting like any player would be better. But we trust him and he's somebody that's continued to put in the work and we'll continue to do so. So as we try to set expectations here, we just all watched the Raiders play last night. They are not a good football team. And that's obviously a much easier opportunity for Shador playing the Raiders with a week to game plan, knowing that you're going to be in the game as opposed to the Ravens when your quarterback gets injured and you're replacing him.

I tried to quantify it because I want to try to be fair to Shadur. So fifth round picks making a start as rookies. We can do that. We now have the ability. Go back to 2020. That's what they do. And by the way, that includes Brock Purdy, who obviously is a severe outlier in the podcast. positive direction here. He had five of those nine wins for the guys. So like, I don't need to see

Chador be great. I'd be shocked if he was great. But can he play to other fifth round picks? That's the level of which, like, I'm going to try to hold him to that standard. Nothing more, nothing less. Yeah, the bar is low for me. Listen, he went four of 16 against the Ravens and didn't look good. But now that he has a full week of preparation, I'm with you, DP. I want to see him look like an NFL quarterback. So what does that mean? controlling the huddle, being decisive with the football, processing what the defense is trying to do to you, getting the ball out on time. There's things you need to see. There's a checklist we need to see out of Sjorda because why? Because of his name, and by the way, he's playing the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders are a bad team. Like I need to see

this quarterback, it looked like he's earned their starting position against a bad outfit and look polished enough to say, all right, he's worthy enough to play the position right now. Look, both of these teams are bad teams. So you guys are saying they're playing against a bad team. Yeah, but the Raiders have a better defense. The Raiders are looking like we're playing against a bad team. But the reality of it is for Shador is that he can't be bad. Like I understand you saying, you know, I don't need him to be better than what the stats

suggest or with the fifth round picks. But he can't be what we saw in that showing that small sample size of the second half against the Baltimore Ravens. And so to your point- He looks completely overmatch. Yeah, I need him to effectively manage the game as an offensive quarterback so that even as we continue to watch him play, we walk away with seeing something that we're excited about saying, you know what, that was an NFL quarterback play. That right there was what a pro looks like.

We have to see some semblance of that. Coming up, Josh Allen just had one of the best games of the season. Can he do it again? Time from some of the best sound of the week. He said, we said. Coming up. Time now for Willie Colon's favorite time of the week. He said, we said.

Yeah. We begin in Buffalo. Here's head coach Sean McDermott on his quarterback, Clark Kent. I mean Superman. I mean Josh Allen. Take a listen. He likes running. He does, which you would think by now.

He would be like, hey, no, I'm good. And he's just so competitive, so tough. Again, he's smart. He's got that side of the game. But he also is very. competitive and tough. And as you saw the run, a couple of the runs yesterday. So it's, um, I'm going to stay healthy. I love that quote because he's like, he's got that side of the ball. Yeah. I got to worry about my defense. It's like that scene and remember the Titans.

You just worry about your offense. You worry about your defense. It's like Josh Allen is the offense. And then it's up to Sean McDermott to figure out the rest. And all the, Just quietly, I know it took a six touchdown game, but all of a sudden, Josh Allen outpacing last year's MVP numbers. Better passer rating, seven more touchdowns, like put it together a nice season. Yeah, one, I think Sean McDermott understands that Josh Allen is the end-all be-all. And he also understands his ability to throw off platform and use his legs to make magic. It's something that this who Josh Allen is. However, when you talk about his ability to wear the cape and his play style, it does

make you nervous, right? Because they need them. And it's not high you win. They just need to win. And when you see him turning on the second half and dominating the fashion he did, you're saying, go Josh, but don't get hurt. And they also understand one thing. The Chiefs are in trouble. They're scrambling. This is an opportunity for them once they get in the playoffs to make a legit run. Because right now, I feel like the Buffalo Bills, once they get hot and they continue to roll, they're a super dangerous team that finally can crack the lid and make it to the Super Bowl. So I think Sean McDormick's thinking big picture and he's worried about Josh Allen getting hurt right now.

Look, I thought this was one of the most impressive and highest levels of endorsements that a coach can give a player. To say he's got that side of the ball when you are a defensive-minded coach and you understand that your quarterback is that good to where we just trust him to take care of that side. Like, we have to get done what we need to get done

and focus on being better as a defense. to support him, you can't get a higher level of a compliment. This version of Josh Allen that we saw on full display this past week, that has to be what they get moving forward. You're going to have to live with some of the turnovers, but I guarantee where he is in his career, his maturity level, the likelihood of him having those turnovers is not as high as when he was a little younger, but you do run the risk of him if he's going to go,

If he's going to go, he's going to go. And you're going to live with some of them. I mean, he's a concussion or a high ankle sprint away from this team going backwards. And that's what Sean McDormick is worried about. Yeah, and I get that. But in the same breath, you can't tell him to tone down the way that he plays. Because if he's not this, this team is not one that we're going to be talking about. Their defense isn't good enough, right?

Yeah, they need to be dominant on the offensive side of the ball. They need him to generate the big plays and all that. And I understand, like, Josh's turnovers look bad. Like, that chess pass interception in his own goal. That's just, that's obviously really bad. He's got seven interceptions this year. Mahomes has six. It's not, he has not been, it's not crazy.

Last year was just so good, which is why he won MVP. But yeah, like, if you're going to be a high variance player who's going to throw the ball down the field, who's going to run a lot, like, yeah, you're going to have a few more turnovers. But if the upside is, put in four. 40 on the board? I'll take you. All right, no pressure here, Greg or Willie, but let's see here. There's been, I don't know how you guys would handle it if I was getting trolled online. I'm sure you'd roll. I would step up for you, DP. I'll step up for you. I know Willie would. Yeah. During the break, he was very, he was not happy with my top time. Not happy at all. That's not the point. Let's hear about Adam Trotman and how he handled

Bo Nix's criticism. Take a listen. If you're talking about Boe online, you're a coward. absolute coward but I just want to say that and guard him a little bit but I mean it says a lot you know he he blanks it out and we talked about this week you know we don't care what other people think we know what we have in the building and we know what he's made of and we don't really care what people have to say so Dragon Slayer 69 with his 7-11 slurpy in his mom's basement I don't get a what he has to say right and Bo doesn't either tough talk to Dragon Slayer in the basement. Greg, what do you make of that? Well, they clearly don't care. It's why he...

Yeah, it's not. I'm not mad. You're mad. Look, man, they found a way to embrace who Bo is and what he provides them when it matters most. And this is what I've kind of alluded to as it pertains to Bo Nix. He's been what's needed when his best has been required. And it's not the recipe that we tend to see and we love to see in this league, especially from a quarterback that doesn't perform from quarter one to three.

But in the fourth quarter, he finds a way to elevate his game and walk away with a win. And so you rally behind a guy like that. If it were the other way around, it would probably implode, but it's not. And so I don't mind them supporting him, but they do care. They definitely care. Yeah, I just, I do, I'm a little perturred by the comments. Like, why, what's this, like, nuanced thing going on around the league where guys feel like they have to jump on a grenade for their quarterback? This comes with the position.

You've been critiqued. I've been critiqued. I've had been. I've seen things said about Benny. Like, man, I should jump out there. But he also understands when you're worth $100 million, when you're the face of a franchise and you sit back there, you're a leader of men, it comes with some heaven scrutiny. Everything you said is right about it. He's a closer.

He's just not good from quarters one through three. I sit back and say, all right, there's room to grow. but I'm not going to hold my tongue and not critique Bo Nix. And not even with him. When you talk about Sam Donald and the critique after the bad game gets the Rams, his middle linebacker jumped in front of him. I'm saying to myself, this is a grown man's league. Grown men deal with criticism, whether you like it or not.

So for Bo Nicks and whoever in our locker room has a problem with the world criticizing his game, I'm a refrain from cussing because I don't want to get you fired. But I'm like, I know. You would get me fired. I think it would just get you fired. Yeah, well, I don't want to ruin the show by it. Yeah, no, I think this is a tale as old as time, right? It would be, like, athletes would be like, we don't listen to talk radio,

or we don't listen, or we don't watch the news. But they do. We don't read the nude. Right. But you do. And I get it. It's in our phones now. So it's crazy that that, the Dragon Slayer or whatever has access to Bo Nix's pocket.

And that's what we've just all signed up for. And it's horrible. And I don't really enjoy it. But this idea of, like, man, that you're above it. Well, then just don't address it. He basically just platformed the online troll, you know? And so that part of it almost validates it. Bow Nix hadn't been good.

And then he was great. You know when there's not going to be criticism? When you were great. Yeah. Like that's just the name of the game. You don't have to like it, but that's how it works. People had a lot of things to say about Tom Brady. You know, we did.

Hoist's the six Lombardis. Now he's the guy. Yeah. And he got another one. Down in Tampa. Yeah. I cannot wait to show you guys a very specific. specific play from last night's game and see if it offends your player sensibility.

It's coming up next. We welcome you back with a little game of did you catch that? So that man right there, Jerry Jones, it's been known to be a little dramatic a time or two. A bit. This offensive tackle, though, Tyler Geithen, I don't know, maybe he's inspired. Did you guys catch this from the game last night? All right, we're holding on, we're holding on, a little linebacker. I got him by like 50 pounds.

What is this? Now, I'm curious, tough offensive line. Yes. Multiple touchdowns in a Super Bowl. Man went over the middle, was not afraid. Where do you feel, how do you come out on flopping in professional football? What is the difference between flopping and foolery? This is foolery. Like if I was next to him, I'm like, dog, you're embarrassing us on my day football. Please get up. He's like flailing around on the ground. It's clearly like, dude, you're costing us. Like we're winning the game.

There's no reason for the extra foolery that you're displaying right now. It's ugly. That's when it comes out, though. When you're winning, you're having. having fun. You want to just put on the show. Put the hands in the air. And it's like he's having a seizure. This is when it comes out. And it's unfortunate because this is the type of stuff,

draws the flag. So that's what I wanted to address here. Because it happened with Josh Allen too recently when he like slid. And then he kind of got. Yeah. And he threw his head back. And he's like, that's even,

that's hard. And listen, you're trying to game the ref. You're trying to get 15 yards. You're trying to win. But this is a competitive game. That's what I'm saying. Well,

soccer it's weak in the NBA it's week there's something about it happening in tackle football that legitimately offends my sports sense like it should there should not be a penalty there should not be legislation it should just be public shame yeah but you're blowing the raiders out why are you fishing for flat but just don't fish it's tackle football don't flop yeah you guys are supposed to be tough i'm with you on that don't believe it's put homes does it all the time by the way yeah on the sideline i know it's bad it's my least favorite part of it should be on the jumbotron before It's just like a PSA. Don't flop.

It should be fine. I like that. Tapp football.