First Things First - Jaylen Waddle traded to Broncos, Venezuela beats Italy, Alex Rodriguez joins, King of the Hill

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hemanes runs, Truro, grounds one through, base at center field. Hemenez will be a third. Tying one enticingly close for Venezuela. Acuna. Grounds one, left side. Antonacci with the back hand, throws it across late, tied in two. On 2 O, Michael Garcia, lines about a left field of base hit. Jackson, Churio comes home.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Throwing a third timing play, everybody's safe. Venezuela's taking the lead. Acuna almost halfway down the line. There goes Garcia from first. It's left to left center field. Jacob Marcy won't get there. The hit parade continues, and so does the fiesta for Venezuela in Miami.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Venezuela, championship game for the first time. Mission accomplished. Team Venezuela will play the United States for the gold medal. Live from New York. It's a show that's welcoming you back. Not from yet another vacation. We're going to fight.
Starting point is 00:01:22 To Team USA. Wow. You had a lot of, of, uh, Dalliances. Dalliances, sure. Here's the thing. You're back on. Brew and I never left.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We never left. We're here. Here's the thing. I don't know if you were listening. It's a nice. The great Joe Davis. Yeah. There. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:43 Mikel Garcia. Yeah, Royal. Venezuela. Captain Salby-Ferese. For Venezuela, one of their best is of Royal. I've kind of split even tonight. And you know I do like an underdog. You're split? I do like an underdog.
Starting point is 00:01:59 You got to pull for Team for a second. I mean, I... These are sweet. I like the hat. The hat is great. I like the hat. I like the hat. And we're going to have... I feel like filled in a grounding. And I'm... Putting this on just makes me want to...
Starting point is 00:02:11 Were you good? A better, better, better. Yes. What position did you play? Second. I mean, over my whole new young career, I played all types of positions. Irmei shorts,
Starting point is 00:02:23 What was your favorite? In high school, I played Alfred. Alfield, okay. Thank you. Excellent. Arod joining the show in about 20 minutes. Yeah. Played shorts and I'm a little,
Starting point is 00:02:33 I have to say something. D.H. I'm a little upset with Aero. What? Arod didn't do it. Jeter did it. Well, I expected Arod, you know, it's a good lesson for everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:45 If you hear something that you think's unjust or unfair, speak up. Jeter, Jeter, low-key, dis. He didn't lo-key. It wasn't low-key. It was an outright diss. No, it wasn't. He was chatting about the environment in Miami. He's like, does this remind you of Kansas City?
Starting point is 00:03:03 We'll talk with- The fact is, was he right? Yes. So it does give me a great opportunity to use like Kansas City jokes again in the next block. First hour, first things first today. Jalen Waddle headed to Denver. What does this mean for Bo Nix?
Starting point is 00:03:19 What does it mean for Mahomes? What does it mean for Justin Herbert? What does this mean for Malik Willis and Josh Allen? And drink me. They're making it hard. Meanwhile, Luke and the Lakers win yet again. Hold on. Are they a defensive team now?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Somebody said Rockets by five, right? It wasn't you, bro. I meant it. It was you. You said Rockets by five? Yeah. Why? Classic two.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I meant the next game. Oh, okay. I meant tomorrow. Oh, gotcha. This was a warm-up game. Did you know your boy was sitting out? No. If Shingoon played, the game's different.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yes, absolutely. Also, if they, you know, had a point guard once Fred Vendley ripped his ACL, I felt like that was pretty obvious. And finally, a special edition of King of the Hill featuring a mad Joker. Like me broke that out. Yeah. Yonkers just like, I better be on the top. Okay. Chris Brousard, Kevin Wilde, Nick Wright.
Starting point is 00:04:11 A little bit of a per canary on the hill from me. Yeah, there is. I told you earlier in the makeup room, it won't work. Also, I don't. You misplayed your hand. I have laid down the gauntlet for,
Starting point is 00:04:28 I know, three years. Can I say something? It won't work. Even by our standards, it being 305 and the open is still going is a bit more. We had a nice sod in bump. It's a bit more.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I have the hats. Some show. are already in their first commercial brats. I'm looking like an old Roman Anthony right now. Look at me. I'm like Pete Crow Armstrong. We start in Denver. New home with Jalen Waddle. Broncos get Waddle and a fourth pick number 111.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Miami receives Denver's first round pick, number 30 94 and 130 overall. Here's Waddle at his peak. This is peak Jalen Waddle 22, 23, when he's going for 16 yards. yards per reception, had 1,900-yard games, and 12 touchdowns. You like this move for Denver.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I love it. So I think people think that I basically never like trading picks for players. But it's not the... Yeah, I was surprised you said you love. So I try to evaluate everything given the team's
Starting point is 00:05:35 circumstance and what their timelines are. So, Chiefs, Rams, Trent Duffy trade. I loved that for both teams because I feel like they are on, not on different timelines, they're both trying to compete this year, but the Rams have a very short timeline and the Chiefs have a longer one. I wouldn't have liked Max Crosby to the Ravens. I would have thought that would have been too aggressive when you have Lamar Jackson, who should be excellent you would hope, for at least the next three, if not five years. If you're Denver and your free agency
Starting point is 00:06:10 approach was keep everyone, add no one, which is what they did. They were the only team that had not added a single outside free agent, and I guess still hadn't because this isn't a free agent. And you have a quarterback you believe in, whether we think that's smart or not. They, Sean Payton clearly believes in him, and he's had a very good first two years. And he's not making any money. And you were the number one seed. And you needed a difference maker at skill position.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I felt running back tight end or receiver. They needed some type of threat, adding a 27-year-old on a good contract who has been healthy in his career. I think he has six career games missed for basically the 30th pick and a third because you're swapping fourths. That makes sense to me. That is not over-aggressive and it makes even more sense, Brew, when I think he's better than any. any of the free agent receivers, and they all cost more money. Now, you wouldn't have had to give up the first round pick, but the 30th pick is not the same as giving up the 13th pick or a great first round pick.
Starting point is 00:07:21 So I think this is very smart for Denver. I applaud this move. I think this is a move of a well-run team. I love it, too. I think this, look, I think Jalen Wattle is clearly a number one receiver. He wasn't as good as Tyreek Hill. Okay. You know, he's, Hill is a Hall of Famer, but he is a number one.
Starting point is 00:07:40 receiver. I think that moves Cortland Sutton, who ironically has made two Pro Bowls. Waddle hasn't made any. But it moves Sutton to a number two. I think he's a very nice number two.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Waddle, you know, deep threat, like, get you yards after the catch. He makes Bo Nix better. You're right. Nix hasn't really had a true playmaker in any position. And I think he makes their run game better.
Starting point is 00:08:05 You know, and so last year was middle of the pack. I think with real threats outside, the run game will get better. Nick, I think right now, I think with the chargers and the health, you know, we're assuming they get their two tackles back, Mike McDaniel
Starting point is 00:08:22 make a difference, and then what Denver's done with just this move, I think those, like, I think right now the Chiefs are a definitive third in that division right now. Now, we'll see how the draft goes for them and all. Mahomes getting back and stuff. But right now, those two, like
Starting point is 00:08:38 Denver, so obviously, had a great year. Their defense, even if it's not quite as good, it's probably going to be strong. Oh, yeah. And then now the offense, which really was your problem, and you bring in a Jalen Wado,
Starting point is 00:08:51 I think this is big for the Broncos. So for whatever it's worth, and this isn't gospel, but it's just supposed to be a neutral party. Vegas still has Denver as a definitive third in the division. Really? So they have the third best odds, and they are a projected win total of nine and a half,
Starting point is 00:09:09 while the Chargers and Chiefs are both 10 and the half. The Chiefs are still the favorites barely over the Chargers to win the division. So now it is the closest division as far as having the top three teams divisional odds. Like the Chiefs are plus 165, Chargers plus 185, Denver plus 225. But Vegas, whether it's because of the first place schedule, skepticism of Bo Nix compared to how people feel about Herbert and certainly Mahomes. that's more of it. And it didn't, those numbers, not surprisingly, didn't move from this morning before and after the trade.
Starting point is 00:09:46 But listen, I think this is a smart move for Denver. And I also applaud Miami for Miami Brew. Seller cap's $306 million. Miami has $156 million of dead money this year. So I don't applaud the contracts that you signed to get there. but taking the medicine and saying, you know what, we are excited about being the worst team in the league, which they are going to be.
Starting point is 00:10:17 They are going to be the worst team in football. Malik Willis, this is, I guess, something of like a, not a redshirt year, but he will be evaluated based on his second year there, the contract. That'll be interesting because I agree.
Starting point is 00:10:32 They're not doing him any favors. Now, if they're like, and obviously Halfley knows him from Green Bay, So they're like, look, this is our guy. They're probably telling him, like you said, you got a runway. Don't worry about this first year. If you struggle, we still believe in you. But that's easier said than done.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Easy to say in March when you throw two interceptions and you lose a game, 30 to nothing. I don't think you're like, you know what, I'm good. And he hasn't had, he's thrown six touchdowns in his entire career. He can't look back. I'm like, I'm good. I'm positive. He's right. It's a small sample of confidence.
Starting point is 00:11:06 He got paid. the confidence is here's the deal. The Dolphins should have the number one pick. If they have the number one pick, Malik Willis, they're going to draft a quarterback and Malik Willis is a stopgap. If Malik Willis plays at a level
Starting point is 00:11:21 to where they get the fifth pick, that means he played awesome, and then he, you know, buys himself more time. But I understand if I'm Jeff Halfley saying, and, you know, they're going to rip it all down, I at least want to know I'm going to have some stability quarterback the first year. And it's not like they're paying a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Why does it even matter? To give yourself a chance, I think, to evaluate the rest of the roster. To give yourself a chance if they are, you know, end up drafting a receiver, which I imagine they have to. And Jalen Tolbert's their number one. So, you know, I think there is some value to having a quarterback that's going to, that you have a relationship with that's going to give you at least a chance to operate in some way.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But I just think, this is the talent of the worst. team in the league. I think they believe in Willis, but if it's just we're tearing it down, we're essentially tanking with integrity, you could have brought in Justin Fields a professional quarterback who started a lot of games and just
Starting point is 00:12:21 I mean, they have to me they have, the money they pay Willis they have to think he could be their quarterback of the future. Or that he is their quarterback of the future. I didn't feel like they gave him so much to where they're tied to him long He's just in a tricky spot. He wants to
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's his team. He's the franchise quarterback in his mind. And if he goes out there, they got rid of all their players. He gets cooked. It's strange. Miami now has picks 11 and 30. And by the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they trade A champ. They should definitely. Yeah, I mean, it would make sense. I mean, they're ripping it down. They, they went for it. They didn't get it. They got to start over. Patriots will still split with them. We will. This in Miami's hot time. Head to Houston. Kevin Duran had two points in the second half. More on that later. Ron and Luca had much more. Luca finishes the game with 36. Lakers win their sixth in a row.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Nine of their last 10 have been Ws, where you were impressed with the latest Laker win. I was impressed. I mean, now they've won nine out of 10. Obviously, you go on the win streak, you're going to lose a game here or there, and they kept it rolling. Look, without Shingoon,
Starting point is 00:13:29 Alperin Shingun for Houston, that certainly made it easier. And you saw they were able to just double Kevin Durant and had, no fear of Amin Thompson, Jabari Smith, any of those guys. So that made it easier but the Lakers still went out
Starting point is 00:13:45 and executed. So what really impressed me was the defense. I mean, we know Luca is incredible. We know LeBron has accepted this third, you know, banana roll, so to speak, and he's been excelling in that. Reves didn't have a good game, but their defense
Starting point is 00:14:01 was so good. And one thing this shows, because we were talking earlier, in the year about how bad their defense is and all that. It shows, look, strength and speed are important, obviously. But at the NBA level, where everybody has some degree of those things, it's really about how smart you play, right? Is your technique good?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Are you in the right spots? Are you communicating, talking, and all of that? and do you give the effort? And JJ Reddick, I'll give him credit, because a few weeks ago I called him like, he's got to do a better job, and he has. And now he's getting the effort, they're hustling and they're playing smart defense.
Starting point is 00:14:49 They don't have to be great defensively. But if they can be adequate, and you do those things, you can be adequate, they've got good size too. They're a big team. So I think that their defense has been, I do have a graphic. I don't know if you had one.
Starting point is 00:15:04 No, I was going to show you. a video, but show the graphic and then we'll show the video. So this is the first 58 games, the last 10 during their nine out of 10 run. And look, they've beaten four playoff teams that were, Minnesota, the Knicks, Houston, and Denver. And their defense has been, what is that, six in the NBA over these past 24 games or 10 games. So I give them credit. Dusty, do you have the video of the steel at the end of the game? No, this is Austin Steel.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Oh, okay. So watch LeBron here. LeBron jumps this past, look at LeBron. Oh, that can't go there. And then Austin gets it. And then Austin's like, thanks for the steel. And LeBron gets the bucket. That's not exactly what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:15:46 That's not LeBron using like elite LeBron athleticism. That's LeBron like, I know this out of balance. But it's also LeBron. So I don't love third banana LeBron, which is what people are, you're not the first one to say it. The title. I love the role. Get used to it. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So I'm going to rephrase it to Swiss Army Knife, LeBron. Because I think it means same thing. I just think one sounds better. LeBron, the Lakers' offense, not only being able to survive, but being able to thrive, without LeBron having to do much, unlocks the 41-year-old to deploy energy elsewhere. Not just physical energy, mental energy. Like it's physically and also mentally exhausting. It's like, man, I got to run the offense.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I got to do these things. And now he can deploy that. And the Lakers are in a very unique position that, man, very few LeBron teams ever have been in where big offensive games from him can be a bonus rather than required. And that allows him to do other things. And so that's going to help the defense. Mark is smart has been awesome, has been really important for him. And now they are in this very unique position.
Starting point is 00:17:10 They have locked up the tiebreaker with Denver. They have locked up the tiebreaker with Minnesota. They are one-one with Houston and they play tomorrow. If they win tomorrow, I believe they're just going to be the three-seed. They're going to be a couple games clear of everybody with tiebreakers and they have 14 games left. Five of them are against tankers. So the teams that even if you don't bring it and they, you know, they are beating you,
Starting point is 00:17:42 they will then take their best players out because they don't want to win games. So they really only need, if they win tomorrow night, they need to go like three and five in their eight games against non-tanking teams to be the three-seed, which, again, anybody in the West, three, four, five, six could lose in round one. There's no question about it. You can lose any of those. We don't know who you'd be playing.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But, man, I think it would be awesome, no matter who wins for it to be Luca, Wimby, LeBron, Wimby, Round 2. Either Wimby, you know. It'd be like a right of passage for Wimby. Either win or lose. It's, you know, it's either a throwaway take there.
Starting point is 00:18:30 That's just take of the day. You got something there. If we still have a take of the day. You got something there. I got robbed last. No, but so like either it would be for Wemby,
Starting point is 00:18:42 either the official arrival. My first time in the playoffs, I knocked off Luca and LeBron James or the start of an amazing story. It's like, and you know, in 15 years in Wimby's first ever playoff appearance,
Starting point is 00:18:57 he lost to LeBron James and maybe his last playoff appearance. Duncan LeBron moment in reverse. Something similar, yes, with the kind of different. Not in the finals. Yeah, and so the, and I think that's. The Brown would say to him, this league is going to be yours. That would be great. And I think, you know, I think that's what we're staring at.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Because I think the Lakers are going to be the three seed. The Spurs, obviously, can't fall. You know, the only reason they wouldn't be the two is if they're the one. And so I think the Lakers would be live in that series. Well, like I said yesterday, the experience factor would be very interesting. And the Lakers presumably would be, they would be coming off a good win, whoever that is you beat in this first round. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Coming up next, we're talking about the world baseball classic right here on FS1 on the Fox Sports Channel on Sirius XM. Welcome back to first things first tonight. game of an incredible world baseball classic Team USA looks to take home the championship against Ronald Acuna Jr. in Venezuela. Coverage begins 7 p.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. Pacific only on Fox. Joining us now is the great Alex Rodriguez. Errod, thanks for joining us. This tournament has been amazing. The vibes and the celebrations and the joy have been off the charts. But I wanted to get your reaction to a quieter moment from from Acuna and the final out last night where he puts his glove over his face and he really
Starting point is 00:20:32 just is there with his own thoughts. What was your reaction to Acuna's reaction in the final out? Yeah, Kevin, you saw it and you also saw it with Suarez when he hit the home run and it was like praying to God, which was, you know, kind of a cool moment. Kevin, I don't think people understand in America how much this means to these prospective countries. This is like, I had like four or five Dominican players and a handful of Venezuelan players tell me, Alex, this is so much bigger to us to win this than to win a World Series. Wow. And it's because 20 countries come in and they come in in a kind of March Madness bracket,
Starting point is 00:21:10 you see all the big scores. And then when it comes to cutting up the time, you get to these, you know, four to two, two to one, goes back to pitching and defense. But they want to establish themselves as a king of baseball. And if you're able to beat the U.S., what a most. moment that is, not only for the happiness and self-esteem of these countries, but you can see the pride there in Acuna, this is all in, and they're all in, and it's pretty awesome. So along those lines, and I think over the years, it's begun to mean more to the U.S., but how would you
Starting point is 00:21:42 compare how much this means to the American players? I don't think it would mean as much as a World Series, but how can you kind of gauge how much it means to our players? Yeah, I mean, look, Chris, you got to understand, like when these guys, when the season ends, they're on the first plane back to their country. And they don't spend one minute in the U.S. or anywhere else. Their country means everything to them. Then comes Major League Baseball. So when you have an opportunity to wear Venezuela, Dominican, Puerto Rican, whatever that is, that's going to trump anything else that happens in America. Now, for the U.S., I think this perceived notion that those teams care more because they sing and they dance and they take, you know, face.
Starting point is 00:22:24 make selfies. That doesn't mean you care more. They just have a different style. America is more like Goldman Sachs, right? They're more buttoned up. But they truly care as much. And Aaron Judge said so two days ago when he said, this is even bigger than a World Series atmosphere, which from Aaron Judge, that's saying a lot. Alex, I was fortunate enough about a week and a half ago, Wilde and Bruce say I was on vacation. I was actually working trying to on the ground. Wasn't paid. I was in Tokyo for Japan. Japan, Australia. And the environment was unlike any baseball game I'd ever been to.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Every Japanese player that was up, they had their own chant or their own song. And then the crowd was dead silent when Australia was up. It was so fun. Again, different than the Latin American crowds, but also very different than the American crowds. And it is unique to this event because baseball and the Olympics also isn't the same, just like soccer and the Olympics isn't the World Cup. So I want to go back to 20 years ago when this started.
Starting point is 00:23:28 You had the first ever, I think, walk off hit for anybody in this event back in 2006. And when this thing started, I remember there being some skepticism. People were like, it's just basically like, what is this creation? And now it feels like it is a launching pad to the Major League Baseball season. and it feels like there is real gravity to it. And so 20 years ago, could you have ever imagined that the World Baseball Classic
Starting point is 00:24:01 would mean as much as it does right now to the sport and global? Nick, that's a great question, and it's a hard no. I mean, I remember talking to Derek Jeter and Chipper Jones, and we did not know 20 years ago what this was going to end up being.
Starting point is 00:24:17 We were confused between, is it an exhibition game? Is it a hybrid spring training? Is this more like an all-star game? We didn't know how to put our arms around it. And what has happened 20 years later is ballooned to one of the greatest media properties that baseball has and Fox is covering it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's been awesome. And I never in the wildest dreams would have think that it would have been this big. I think social media has helped a lot because you're able to capture in real time the fans dancing. Look, we at Fox, we have the pregame in the post.
Starting point is 00:24:49 game. We show up about four or five hours before the game. There's 20,000 people outside singing and dancing and playing instruments and having concerts. It feels like LSU is playing Alabama on a football game for an ACC championship. And baseball's done something incredibly well. They struck gold. And that gold is that they've triggered the emotions of the global ecosystem. And to have Italy, they had a two o'clock game in Houston, which was prime time in Italy, and all the cafes were shut down talking about baseball in Italy. In Japan, you have over 100 million people that have watched in Japan. For baseball, it's been a juggernaut, and I hope we end tonight with another great game. Arad, as a Red Sox fan, I have really enjoyed guilt-free
Starting point is 00:25:35 rooting for Aaron Judge. It's just been fantastic. He's made some great plays in the field. He had the home run kind of taken away from him, but he's still hitting okay. He's had maybe fairly or unfairly, not the best performances in big spots has kind of been a little bit of a negative part of his career. Do you think he comes through tonight? Yeah, I do think he'll come through tonight. And look, Kevin, there's different ways for you to come through. I mean, he absolutely changed the game the other night against Dominican Republic by throwing Tatis out at third base with a Roberto Clemente tight throw. That ball came off 96. And it was right on the money and he threw out a runner.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And that runner maybe changed the game because for the rest of the game, he set the tone. Nobody else ran on him. Yeah. The minute he started celebrating less. They were a little bit more on their heels. You don't always have to hit a home run to change the game. He did it with that throw right there, which is a bullet. And he's also been hitting pretty well.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Venezuela has kind of been the comeback kids down five, one to Japan. We know they had the three run seventh last night. How do you think, like, what's their mentality? If they get down in this game, how does that affect how both teams kind of look at it at that point? Yeah, you know, Kevin mentioned Aaron Judge. You know, you may have the best two players in the game, definitely the best two right-fielders in the game,
Starting point is 00:27:02 and Aaron Judge and Ronald Lacuna Jr. And they both hit in the first inning. So if you're home watching, do not miss that first inning because you may miss some fireworks. I think they take the personality and the tone of Salvador Perez, here you go, Nick, some of your Kansas City Royals. there's been a celebration for the Royals. They've been everywhere, especially in that.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Oh, I'm going to have to talk to you about that, Alex. No, too work. I was thinking about you the other day. But with Salvi Perez, who's the leader and a world champion and a five-time gold glove winner, and then the great Ronald Ocunia Jr., I mean, watch the way he runs here. And guys, these guys are playing harder and faster. Of course they are because there's not 162. There is March Madness.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Winner goes home. Right. You know, winner advances, loser goes home. So what people are seeing is real. It's much more passionate, much more fast-paced. Look at this emotion. It's been awesome. But I do think that to answer your question more specifically, Chris,
Starting point is 00:27:56 the winner of the first six innings, I believe, wins the game. Both of them have locked down bullpins that are all thrown over 100 miles an hour. And if you go up against the U.S. And you go up against Miller, his last 50 at bats, 0 for 50. That's crazy. Wow. Wow. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Well, you set me up quite well. Listen, this is the world baseball classic. Some people are calling it the Royal Baseball Classic. No one's called. Well, I don't know. Who's the only three home run game in the history of the tournament? Vinnie Pasquintino, who's he played for? Jack Caglione, the second best player on Italy.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Who's he played for? Venezuela who might win? Their captain, Salvi Perez, the game winning hit, Michael Garcia. Oh, the best player left in the tournament. Bobby Winton Jr. Who does they play for? The Royals. It's been a nice little couple weeks for my team in Kansas City,
Starting point is 00:28:46 which is why, Alex, I was so dismayed when our colleague, your dear friend. Fair question. Derek Peter does this. Play it, please. Take a look around here. Does it remind you, Kansas City? Not even close. What is that?
Starting point is 00:29:08 What is that? And why the drive-by? How do you not jump in there, Alex? That's awful. Oh, man. George Brett was not happy with that question. I loved it. Nobody was happy with it.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I love it. Kansas City is one of the great, great baseball towns. Still remember the World Series in 85 when you guys and Brett Saberhagen beat the Cardinals. Yes. But what I will say is you guys are loaded and you have a tremendous future and they've been incredibly well represented in the WBC. If you're a Kansas City Royal fan like Unique and all the millions of other fans, I mean, they could not be more proud.
Starting point is 00:29:45 They probably can't wait for the seasons of. start. I agree. As a farm system for the other big, big team, you know those guys are going to end up with the Yankees. You guys do a great job. You guys do a great job. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Huge your Hall of favorite. Yankees Ranside. Yes. God. Yes. It's fantastic. You guys do an excellent job. Alex, thank you for that. Excellent job. I will talk about team Italy. I just wanted to get your reaction. It's been my favorite. It was my favorite play Italy versus Mexico. Antinacci does this fake dive, Alex, and deeks the runner, that he thinks the ball's in the
Starting point is 00:30:22 outfield, and he gets thrown out on first. I was like, wow, what a one-time play. And then it happened again last night. Can you speak to how this specific type of play, have you ever done something like this, and how these games are decided in the margins with these tiny little plays? Yeah, like, look, in these kind of plays, it's tournament play, right? It's the closest comp for me is March Madness, which we're in the middle of, which is, you know, pretty cool. But, but again, like, whether there's a trick play or whether is Bobby Wood Jr. dive in and saving, saving a run or the Aaron Judge throw, you know, it's often in these games like tonight, the small things that are going to win the games.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Fanbase, they want to walk off home run. They want the deba. That really doesn't happen in these type of games. It goes back to what's worked for 120 plus years. Strong pitching. and great defense, and that's going to be the winner tonight. Whoever does that best. Alex, Mark DeRosa's called a lot of heat. I would say, I think, fairly. But does he silence all the doubters with a win tonight? I think he does, but he has to close it tonight, right?
Starting point is 00:31:31 Because he's made some brilliant moves. I think bringing in Gunner Henderson. Yep. By the way, Kevin, your Roman Anthony is an absolute stud. Yeah, amazing. He'll probably be a Dodger, like movie pets. Go ahead. Sorry, go ahead. One fact, Kevin. He was coached by my same high school coach at Douglas here.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Oh, nice. But he is awesome. Yeah, I forgot your question, but I wanted to just get that one. De Rosa. Yeah, De Rosa. Yeah, DeRosa. The fact that he put in Gunner Henderson in there, I thought putting Will Smith was a brilliant move. Slow heartbeat, winning DNA, very underrated hitter.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I think he did a brilliant job. and the unsung hero against that Dominican game, and also a nice frame on that ball. By the way, if that was called a ball, as it should have been, you would have had an incredible setup, very similar to Otani facing Mike Trout a few years ago. It would have been Adraise Miller, unhittable Miller,
Starting point is 00:32:31 to Tatis, who gets a second bite of the apple, who the previous at bat struck out with a man on third unless that would have been. Yeah, that would have been an incredible finish. No game should ever finish like that, which just means they're going to, expedite the process of getting this robotic umpires, I believe. I was going to ask, are you excited about ABS this year?
Starting point is 00:32:52 I am because I want to see it, right? I mean, look, we used to riding horses, now we have cars. I mean, the world is changing. You've got to keep up with the Joneses a little bit. If it's done quickly, and I think it will because we have the technology, I think games will go up and you'll have more offense and you have a more accurate strike zone, which is what we're all looking for. Before we let you go, A-Rod, can you?
Starting point is 00:33:14 you give us the update on Camp A-Rod? Yeah, we're doing this in this summer from, what is it, June 25th through 28th, 9 through 13 ages. And I'm really passionate about this. The world's gone so crazy on launch hang going technology. We're going to go back and teach fundamentals at the highest level. I don't want any technology in this camp. I want to talk about catching the ball, going first to third, making good contact, bunting,
Starting point is 00:33:41 good pitching mechanics. you're 13 years old, you should not be worried about how fast you throw. You're 13 years old, you should not be worried about how far you're hitting it. All that will come within time if you have the right foundation and fundamentals. And that's what we're going to teach. And on that note, I know you have to go, but I'm going to embarrass you and Wilds for 20 seconds here. Two years ago, when you didn't know us at all, we happened to be in a suite, a Fox Suite. One of Kevin's youngest sons was there.
Starting point is 00:34:11 and he walked up to you and asked you about his swing. Oh, yeah. And you stood there and I can't even do it. I can't swing as well as wild, a seven-year-old at the time, and gave him a little lesson. Yeah, it was amazing. In the, just one-on-one, it was one of the coolest things I've ever seen from sitting afar. So I think it's so cool what you're doing with the kids.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I think that's really great. It was like nobody saw it. It was just you, like teaching baseball. It was a little kid. It was beautiful. I got a great picture. I was like, did you grab that? It was really great.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Well, thank you very much. Have a great game tonight. Venezuela, USA tonight at 7 on Fox. Thank you, as always, Arod. Go wolves. Thank you, guys. Kevin Durant had 16 in the first half against the Lakers, but was held scoreless in the second until there was 30 seconds left in the game.
Starting point is 00:35:02 He said the loss was on him. Take a listen. I think we just got to convert. Maybe I got to just got the way getting the corner. corner, space to flow out for other guys. I think just that when I get the ball getting certain teams, they're just going to settle out and just say, you know, we're just going to double and play a little zone behind it
Starting point is 00:35:23 and see what happens. And if we give open shots, that's cool. But maybe I just need to get out the way, you know, be honest, set screens, be able to be ready to catch and shoot. Just space to fly out for my teammates. Just feel like I lost the game for us tonight. That's simple. I mean, my teammates could, I mean, of course,
Starting point is 00:35:39 we probably can make more three, but it's all on, it's all on me. I mean, be honest. I'm the offense, and the opposing team is going to use all their resources and not let me get comfortable. Free reaction. Well, credit to KD for falling on the sword, but I don't blame me. Obviously, he didn't play well in the second half. I think he had, what, two points and a bunch of turnover, six turnovers in the second half, I think.
Starting point is 00:36:04 But I don't blame that on him. I'm blaming that on, one, Reed Shepard, be. a better point guard. And I like Reed Shepherd. I think he's got a bright future. I honestly would not be surprised if he does eventually emerge as a legitimate star. Wow. Yeah, I think that he could. But do you think he's a point guard or a
Starting point is 00:36:24 shooting guard? He's a small, he's going to end up playing point. Whether he's a scoring point guard or not because he's so small and he's not Alan Iverson. And then I also blame E. May O'Doka. Durant should not, just because you can dribble well
Starting point is 00:36:40 for your size, does not mean you're a point guard. Kevin Durant is a score. So why you have him bringing the ball up, it made it easy for the Lakers to trap him. Because they were trapping him at half court or above the three point line and getting the ball out of his hands. And then they didn't fear any of these other guys. Durant was, I don't know if he's sending a little message. Like, get me off the ball where I've played my whole career for the most part and let me run off some screens. Let me catch and shoot, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:37:10 but I blame them more than KD. Without Shingoon is their second. Van Vleet, Fred Van Vleet is their point guard. Shingun is really their point guard without Van Vleet. He leads them in assists. So without him that was tough. But here, ultimately, Nick, Houston blew it. I don't mean the game.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I mean they blew it. They should have gone. They should have traded Shingoon. and if it was Reed, Shepherd, or whoever, to go get Janus. Oh. Because Shingoon, as much as I like him, he's probably a perennial all-star going forward. He's not going, I don't think he's good enough to, like, lead you to a championship. Now, in the East, he would be much better even and maybe they're a contender.
Starting point is 00:37:58 But trade away some of those young pieces, the two, Shingun and Reed or whoever, and get Yonis and go for it with Duran. As long as you got Kevin Doreen. you're win now. But, Brew, what if even if they had said we're not doing that, wasn't there something
Starting point is 00:38:15 they could have done between Fred Van Bleep blowing out his knee and the trade deadline to address point guard? You know what I mean? Some minor. Chris Paul.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Do you want to play again? Joseo Alvarado. Come on over. But none of that's making them a true contender in the West. And so, which is why I'm focused on the Durant. piece of it.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Because this has to work for him. And it's not. It's not going to work. It's certainly, this year's Zerat. And he's 37. He's still awesome. He had a bad game and he's not a perfect player. I understand all of that.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He's one of the 20 greatest players to ever live and he is still one of the 20 best players in the league. You don't think he'll be awesome next year? No, I just, I don't think you'll be better. You know what I mean? I think at this point They're not winning a championship with Kevin. I'm not blaming Duran.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I'm just saying next year, you think they even with Van Vleet? No, maybe if they did the Janus move. The Spurs just going to be they should have done it at the deadline. But I mean, it is just I love basketball and I love watching historically great players
Starting point is 00:39:30 play important games. And I was very excited about Houston trading for Kevin Durant. because going into the year, I was like, I think they could win it. You know, I really did. It's hard to bend your title. Okay, you know, so OKC, we haven't seen anyone do it in almost a decade. I thought the Spurs, no chance their first year in the play.
Starting point is 00:39:52 You know, I thought they'd be good, but not great. We all knew the issues the Lakers could have. Like Houston was probably my lean in the West going into the year. And now they are more likely to lose. round one, then make it to the conference finals, much less the NBA finals. And it is for a player of Kevin Durant's historical greatness, who in his 20s played in six conference finals and four NBA finals to spend his 30s having played 13 games after round one of the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Zero conference finals appearances. zero NBA finals appearances in his 30s is absolutely bananas when I understand he had one year lost to injury, 31. But he's been awesome. And in teams that while I didn't think many of them were championship caliber, none of the teams were like bad teams. The Nets team you thought were unbelievable. And that's injuries and in the pandemic and all that kind of messed them up. But the sons, they had just come off the best record in the league and a finals appearance in the previous years. They had Devin Booker alongside him.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And I thought this would work. And this is just going to be, it's another year where Kevin Durand who spent the 2010s, he lived in late May and early June. And the 2020s, he hasn't sniffed early May. Like that's. You guys are pretty negative. I mean, I know it was, I know, like they're just, what are they two, two and a half, one and a half games behind? I mean, they're going to make the playoffs. They have no chance to win in the West.
Starting point is 00:41:42 You actually think they have a chance? No, but it just feels like we just did the Lakers. Like Lakers are all of a sudden like on the rise. Lakers are better than them. I know they're going to, well, if the Rockets beat them, they'll split the season series if they win tomorrow? No, it's one, one right now. So they would win this. They would win.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I don't know. It just feels like there's not a huge gap between the Lakers and the Rockets in the standings. but we're saying, hey, this one team has a puncher's chance, and this other team is because they don't have a point guard, which is a big deal. Wait, so are you, I'm not being a jerk here. Are you straw manning or being real here? Like, do you, I do think the Lakers have a puncher's chance
Starting point is 00:42:17 to make the conference finals, and I think the Rockets have no chance. I'm just not putting them at no chance. So you, so. Why? Why not? So you think the Rockets can in round two beat the Spurs or the thunder after in round one beating. The thunder are tough.
Starting point is 00:42:36 The thunder are tough. They're going home in the first round. And it's just, mark my word. And the other reason I think KW is the most important person on the Lakers is Luca. And so even if they don't, you know, if they have a short playoff run this year, still feels like there's time there. The most important person on the Rockets is the guy we're talking about here. Well, that's one of the challenges.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yep. The way the team was, the direction the team was headed, added Durant. But it felt like it should work. They were the two, that's the thing that's so weird is. And what they needed was scoring. They were the two seed last year. You know who was important to them? Nick won't like it, Dylan Brooks.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Oh, Dylan Brooks. Stephen Adams was big. That was their rebound. It was a big cue for them. But Dylan Brooks gave them attitude. You've said several times you can just drop Durant in a lot. on a team and he fits. I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 00:43:32 He's not the leader necessarily, but he does fit as just catch and shoot. You can write down 25 points without the disrupt in your offense. But around the edges, leadership, vibe to this team totally different. You need, he's not the leader.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah. And there was some, maybe some issues. Yeah. That hurt team chemistry. Live from New York. The show that's for. fired up for Team USA. Yeah, we're gonna drink a lot of espresso
Starting point is 00:44:05 to remember Team Italy. I'm gonna drink one tonight. We're getting die. It doesn't matter. Can I tell you something? I'm not the, I'm on since 5 a.m. yesterday. I'm on 90 minutes sleep. Why?
Starting point is 00:44:18 They, I, I flew too close to the jet lag sun. Oh, it's the next day. It's the next day. That's why you were so ornery about. He's like screaming at me. Well, well, K. KW did two things he loves to do. One, lie about my record.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And two, pretend the show did not exist before he got here. Like you and I brew weren't getting up at four in the morning going to meetings. What, KW? I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. Say what you think. Say what you said upstairs. Say what you set upstairs.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Say it. I know what you want to say. But hey, did Jerry Jones fix the Cowboys defense? A great quote that you got to hear. We're in prime Jerry Jones quote season. Oh, yeah. Meanwhile, who's under the most pressure in the world baseball classic tonight is that guy, Aaron Judge, who I am rooting for?
Starting point is 00:45:18 But right now, well, you're in luck. Hit the butterflies, Rick. It's time for the most friendly segment in all of sports. It's not Mahomes Mountain. No. Because that's cold and snow. This is called King of the Hill. It's named after LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:45:34 We introduced some butterflies to just make it feel differentiated from every other sports ranking show. That's why we do it? Well, it's unique, you know? It's branding. It's important nowadays. You have to be your own brand. It's nice and fun-loving.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yeah, bro. These are the types of touches this show just didn't have prior to six years ago. This is nature themed. It's like when a tree falls in the woods. All right, so let's first remind everyone again, guys who we believe would make the Hill, but because of injury, they're not on it. Only one of them, we think, could come back this year to get on it.
Starting point is 00:46:14 We can show that here. That's, I think we can. That's Steph Curry, who has been off for quite some time at this point. Steph Curry, Tyrese Halliburton, AD, Jimmy Butler, Kyrie. Obviously, the last four are not coming back. What's up, KW? Do you think Steph is shutting off? What do we think?
Starting point is 00:46:31 I don't, I mean, they're, they're playing. And they're, they're definitely going to stay in the play in. He might come back to just playing that. And Steph's, I would, I would. Yeah, Steph's got a lot of play in experience. Too much playing experience. He's a lot of playing experience. I would play in the play in.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And then guys who were on the hill last week, but have fallen off, again, injuries played a factor in the first couple. Wow. Maxi, just Maxi missed just enough time where he's not off for good, but he had to fall off. Okay. I didn't see this latest in beat injury coming. Really? I didn't.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I mean, come on. Alpi is kind of in up and down. Chet, you could get back on, don't be mad at me. I'm not really, I don't really rock with Chet like that anymore. You keep on saying, we're your guy. No, he's not. KW. I'll take, I've taken.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I've taken Chet. KW. You did an entire. He don't like Chet. You made us talk about the match. He never really liked Chet. When they had the number one pick so much about how they had to draft Chet and pair him with Jalen Suggs.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And then when Chet played in a summer game and. Well, that was true. And got hurt against LeBron. Well, there was condensations. And you, I mean, you have just rep. I'm just not rocking with Chetle. He got his championship. My job is done.
Starting point is 00:47:55 He's been a huge disappointment. All he's done is help OKC. I am saying. All he's done is help OKC do with Duran, Westbrook, and Hardin. I am like a CEO who takes undervalued companies and gets them up. I don't, once it's done and running, I don't need to still rock with check. I'm on to the next. Shingoon's not your guy either then.
Starting point is 00:48:17 No, I'm still rocking with Shingoon. We haven't done anything. He's up in time. You say he's going to be one and done. He is, but still. I did get him. Bottom of the Hill, players 21 through 28. James Hardin, honeymoon might be over.
Starting point is 00:48:29 He's playing fine, but it feels like. They're not winning it. Oh, yeah. You notice Danny doesn't chirp about those abs quite as much as he used to. Carl Anthony Towns, Denny Avdia, Evan Mowbley, stay where they are. Three guys, first time on the hill this year. Stefan Castle is first time ever on it. I do think he is the second best spur because I think Fox is a slightly better offensive player.
Starting point is 00:48:57 and Castle is a demonstrably better defender. So the nod goes Castle. And you guys know how much I love Fox, light the beam RIP. Amin Thompson. I think he hasn't been the best rocket, obviously. Has he been better the last month
Starting point is 00:49:16 than Shangoon probably? But Shingoon's a better player. And Durant's a better player. And Scotty Barnes, here's the deal. The Raptors, They hang around. They're in the 60. They've basically been the 6th seed all year.
Starting point is 00:49:32 They, RJ Barrett's playing well. Brandi Enger is playing well. I think Scardy Martin's playing the best. They deserve somebody on it. All right, now the top 20-ish. Roe 6. Shout out AR. Again, reminder, it's not left to right.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Austin Reeves, he makes it. He's playing. I know he wasn't great last night, but he's been on a heater and the Lakers playing great. LeBron, Durant, Jalen, Dern, stay where they are. Jamal Murray, not just because of the one for 14 game. But he drops just a tiny bit.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And Paolo, I thought he and his head coach were in a cold war that turned into a hot war where they were doing press conferences against each other. Magic all of a sudden became one of the hottest teams in league. Palo playing better. He moves up. Now to the top 15. Listen, do I think Janus is not a top 10 player? No, of course he's top 10 player. But the team just started getting blasted the moment he came back.
Starting point is 00:50:29 It's kind of a sad experience watching him. He's still awesome. He's banged up again. I don't know. I couldn't raise him up. I dropped him. I don't know what to do. Devin Booker came back and has been excellent.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Booker's been great. And if they get Dylan Brooks back, they could be, at the very least, be a pain in the butt. Yeah. For, OKC or San Diego. Antonio in round one. Justin, you can't beat them. Tougher than you want for round one.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Hawks have won 10 in a row. Now, we're eight of those wins against teams actively trying to lose. Yes, they were. But they've won 10 in a row. And Jalen Johnson leads him in everything. He's nice. And so he gets his highest placement ever on the Hill good for him. Donovan Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And Jason Tatum, has he played in his time back like a top 15 guy? No. But is he getting better each week? Are they lowering his, Minutes restriction, yes, and out of deference to what I think could be over criticism, if come to the playoffs, he's not, you know, full go tatum, which I think would be unrealistic. I'm leaving where he is. Now to the top ten.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Bam scored 83 points. What do you, what, KW? What do you want the guy to do? Hold on. You don't, don't spoil everything. Well, everyone knows he scored 83. Okay. We'll get to bam.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm putting him in the top 10. I will explain it more later. I don't know what you're even saying, what your angle is. Just hold on, Bru, just, Wilde's going to break for him at. Let's just keep on. Jalen Brown, is he going to win MVP? No. Should he win MVP?
Starting point is 00:52:14 No. Is he even guaranteed first team all NBA? No. Has he been excellent start to finish all year? Does he deserve real consideration? for MVP balloting. Yes, does he deserve real consideration for first team all NBA? Yes, I think right where he is is right about right.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I don't think he's going to make first team. I don't think so either, but he at least deserves, it's a hard decision. Kauai Leonard. Listen, just got banged up a tiny bit. You hope it's nothing significant. I was nervous with Kauai. This is the best year he's had. in the 2020s?
Starting point is 00:52:57 Is it like... Since he won his champion? Yeah, I mean, I think it's his best... Just because of injuries. Yes, I... No, but also, he's averaging more points than he's averaged since he was a Raptor. Like, this decade,
Starting point is 00:53:09 and Jalen Brunton stays where he is. Top six. Joker is, might be the best player in the league. He's awesome. The advanced metrics will always love him, and he deserves to be loved. How about the standings? Say it again?
Starting point is 00:53:28 How about the standing? things old school USA Today. But here's the other, it's not just the standings, here's the other thing. He gets maybe a little too much of a pass on the Nuggets horrific defense. If we're going to if we're going to nitpick the other guys most notably Luca. I mean, he's a better. He's a better defender than Luke. I understand, but we never ever the Nuggets have had a bottom 10 defense all year.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Nobody ever plays Joker at all. Again, he is one of the. He slipped defensively this year. that's kind of the point that I was trying to get to is that I don't think, I think he is part of their issue on defense. Now, the argument for him is because he's doing everything for them on offense. I get it. He's a great, great player, slip just a bit. Cade, everything I said about Jalen Brown applied to Cade Cunningham. Can he win MVP? No. Is he a locked first team all NBA? No. But is he going to have a real argument for your ballot and for a first team?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Yes. Anthony Edwards, who is just, I don't know, just kind of quietly having an awesome season. And it's not like the Timberwolves are, you know, they're two games out of third place. Not like they've been a disaster, but it feels like, you know, they got jumped in line by the Spurs. And he's going to be out. Right. And he's going to, now he's going to miss a week or two. Top three. Luca, just been a man on fire during this Lakers winning street. Over the course of the year, 33-9 and 9, pretty good.
Starting point is 00:55:00 You're going to win the scoring title with, I think, one of the 10 highest points per game seasons in the last 30 years. Oh, yeah. And the 32.8. And he's doing it on good, not great, good efficiency while creating all that offense. Wimby's offense this month has been stunning. not because I didn't think he would ever have it in him, but the offense I thought would take longer. And if he can keep up this offensive production
Starting point is 00:55:36 through the playoffs, they should win the championship. I think that's an unfair ask. Like, hey, be the best defensive player in the league and keep scoring 30 a game. But if he does, they will. But despite that, it's not enough to be atop the mountain because there's not a lot of rules for the mountain, but one of them is if you break a legitimate
Starting point is 00:55:55 Wilk Chamberlain record and you have the best record in the league and you're the best the only player on your team on the mountain with the best record in the league you're top of the mountain it's SGA
Starting point is 00:56:09 that is the latest edition of King of the Hill all right I'm interested in Wiles but I'm going to go ahead and Nick you were out you were in Tokyo playing cards
Starting point is 00:56:25 Please stop saying I was playing cards unless they come at you. The police come for you. I sat on here against Wilds, who's going to probably try to twist it around today, against Wilds and Danny, and defended Bam out of Bio's 83 points. Thank goodness. He got double and triple teamed in the second half. They fouled him. The Wizards don't know how to double and triple team that well.
Starting point is 00:56:54 They were fouling him. He hits 84% of his free throw. I thought it was a great performance. I hold nothing against him for breaking Kobe's mark. Yeah. That said, he can't be in the top 10. He can't. He's not, he can't be in the top 10.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Why? Because he's not that top 10 player. But this can't. Look, this month, he's shooting 42% from. on the floor. In fact, a nod below. 42% from the floor. He's shooting 23% from three. What did he have any good
Starting point is 00:57:33 games? He had an 83 point game. One game. Out, I, the last That was last week. Yeah, this is, this is. The two games since then, he's shooting 34%. He's a big. I know that. He's shooting 16%
Starting point is 00:57:52 from three. What? How did he had a Janice and Booker and scored him. He's 93. That was last week. But that's how we evaluate this week. What are you supposed to do? He can't. Next week.
Starting point is 00:58:07 He can't. He was he on the mountain last week? Yeah. Low. He should have rose. He did. But he rose too high. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:16 So here's listen. I'm just saying this. This segment is going to be canceled. Bam's got to come down. We should do the. segment then. It's not just one game. It's not who had the best game that we. SGA broke a record that no one, no one knew about. No one knew about. Do you know 127 you grow up as a kid? Oh, man. I'm on my way to Wilts record. SGA broke Wilts record.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Will Chamberlain played four minutes. Will Chamberlain played four minutes in his 127th game. Then he went right back to scoring 48 points. It's ridiculous. Is that true? Yes, I looked up. Like what happened to Will? Yeah, he got, so can I, can I just, this was really, Bam didn't even break a record. An opportunity, he broke the modern era record.
Starting point is 00:59:05 No, he did, well, God. The record was a hundred. The record is a hundred. The record is. Most points scored post-mortger. It was also an opportunity for me to just say this because I wasn't here. Bam was on, he rose four levels.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yes, because he scored 83 points. Wow. I know you're not defending him because you're ripping the shreds. I'm defending the segment. The segment has to have some integrity. All right. Can I defend the ranking instead of the segment? He should be higher.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Really? Well, can you do anything to be the top? If you score a thousand points in the game. I mean, is it just player to week? I can find that in USA today. The league does a player to week. Let's just run that. Well, let's just go.
Starting point is 00:59:48 You know what? Let's just do top 20 players and it never moves. Let's just do it. Joker, Yonis, Luka. They don't even play. Yonis has number two. He's a champion MVP, D-P-O-Y. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:03 May I say something? It doesn't make any sense, dude. Are you on my side or not? I don't know where you're at. He don't know where he's at. Because you haven't let me say anything. He's waffling. I understand, and I'm probably a part of the problem on this,
Starting point is 01:00:20 that everything has to be like an argument or a debate. date. I could not believe that I would get if we were like, if four days after BAM scores 83, it's still a big topic and we're like, man, we've talked about every piece of it. It's like, what's the angle we haven't gotten to yet? Someone's like, hey, I've got one. Was it unethical? Like that and like like the next week, the next week, the next week, right, right. It was 10 minutes after the game ended. Weird. But it was happening.
Starting point is 01:00:55 You know what? People were tweeting. Weird stuff. Yeah, just like weird stuff happened when Wilts scored his 100. Yeah. And again, if people were saying, if the argument was that that was unequivocally his 83 was better than Kobe's 81, then I would understand moving like, wait a minute, let's look at the context of it.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Instead, this was the argument. This guy scored 83 points in an NBA game. Actually, that was bad. He shouldn't have done it. I'm not impressed. Not cool. He should have done that what the kid did in that commercial where he's like, hey, ref, out on me.
Starting point is 01:01:33 He should have gotten to 80 and then been like, hey, guys, I'm done. It was an outrage, the conversation about it. Good for Bam, good for Spoh. That gets you in the top 10 for a week. Go ahead, Kayneville. You're fouling the Wizards up 20-something points. The same thing. You're missing free throws on.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Why are you missing free throws? He throws on purpose. KW. That is the same thing that Wilt's teammates did for him to get 100. No one's arguing about Wilt. If he scored 101,
Starting point is 01:02:03 everyone wouldn't be pumped up. Now, I understand. It's a Kobe. It's all because of Kobe. It's all because of Cove. Yeah, I get it. It's all because he passed. While you were gone,
Starting point is 01:02:10 not on vacation, working hard. Thank you. Brew declared that Wembe was the best player in the world. I watched. I was watching all the shows. Say that again? Brew declared.
Starting point is 01:02:20 So don't be trying to pump me off Then he moved off it, obviously. No, I didn't move on it. Because you got Wemby at three or maybe two. It's not left or right. And SGA at one. I just want to remind everyone of how great of a player Wembe is
Starting point is 01:02:36 since you have wavered. You're a snake. And you've lost something. Let's go to the end of the Clippers game last night. Darius Garland, new Clipper, trying to get free. Look at Wembe, who is seven, five plus, guarding him all over. He did this all game. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:02:55 That's crazy. They're winning a ton of games. So do we have their winning how much the spurs are winning? Best record since the start of February. They're 18 and 2. They got to their 50th win that you talked about. That's the most. That's the first time they got to 50 wins since the Kauai Zaza year when they're on a string of 50 wins.
Starting point is 01:03:15 So maybe this starts a new 50. Absolutely. Also through 170 games, Wembe currently has more blocks than Ikeem Elijah on and more made threes than Steph. Well, an interesting tidbit. Wow. That's pretty good, right? So there you go.
Starting point is 01:03:33 That's why I think Wembe. Hold on, can I ask you a question? Yes. Drew, who's the best player in basketball? Wimby. KW. Who's the best player in basketball? Well, I think Joker, but.
Starting point is 01:03:44 See. But I like the segment. This is why you're a bad guy. I like the segment. What's going on? He's winning games. Joker's not. Joker's losing games.
Starting point is 01:03:53 games. That's a, but SGA is on top that he's winning games. Yeah. Not as many since February. Wilts record no one knew about. Tom Brady, back on the field. Fanatics flagged football classic on Fox star studded. Three team round robin tournament featuring the best in the game Saturday for Eastern
Starting point is 01:04:14 only on Fox tomorrow. We've got Michael Rubin joining the show to talk about it. And I have something to report. Oh, you got something to report? Yeah, because I asked Grunk if you'd come on and talk about the show. And he said, quote, I'm sorry, man, crazy busy all week, but please tell everyone I'm about to take over in this flag football game. Awesome. I think he's going to.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. If he wants to, he will. I think he's going to tell me. He wants to he will. Is Kyler Murray the long-term answer in Minnesota? Well, that's the idea that was floated to him. Albert Breer writing that he was the one guy on the market that they could see as a potential longer range answer rather than he, one-year band-ed, Kevin O'Connell.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Pitching that idea to Kyleor to get him to come over. Do you like the idea that Kyler is the long-term fix at quarterback in Minnesota? First of all, it's a bummer headline to read if you're JJ McCarthy, that your head coach is just like, hey, it's not just for this year. Like, we need a long-term fix here. And I'm not even saying they're wrong because I haven't been a JJ McCarthy believer back to Michigan even when he won the national championship. but my answer to this question is absolutely unequivocally no. And just like I saw a bruise wimby take when I was working, you know, in the western, Eastern Hemisphere, I also saw Danny's Kyler takes.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And I just, listen, I understand the NFL has a lot of television partners and you can watch games on a lot of different networks things. I don't know where people were getting the different Cardinals games than me. I'm unaware and I am stunned at how many people think, well, obviously he's going to be just a demonstrably different player than he's been. I don't look at the Vikings as a demonstrably better situation than his best situations in Arizona. Really? Yeah, that's stunning. Yeah, when he had piqued D'Andre Hopkins when he had.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And he was having good years, though, those years. I thought he had one good year. I thought he had one good year. The year they started off super hot, and then they had the terrible playoff game. And he had Cliff Kingsbury as his head coach, who again, I think is limited as a head coach, but obviously is an offensive mind.
Starting point is 01:06:37 He's got the head coach out of the quarterback. Well, I mean, Kevin O'Connell is a really, really good play caller. And I think it is fair to say right now the jury is out on him as a head coach. Really? We've seen them make the playoff twice. Both times get embarrassed in the one playoff game. I think the playoff record is fair, but he has been a very good record. They won nine games last year with abysmal quarterback.
Starting point is 01:07:03 With it, right, a team led by its defense and Brian. But he gets credit for that. He's the head coach. I mean, I feel like his calling card is his offensive whispering, like the quarterback whispering. But regardless, I do think he's obviously a better head coach than. Cliff Kingsbury. I'm just saying Cliff Kingsbury, people liked Cliff Kingsbury. People thought that was going to work.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I don't know why people think, Kyler is obviously the worst quarterback in that division. They, he, like, by a lot. And I, who, I mean, tell me, KW. I've seen Kyler rip off double digit, you know, wins in a row. Like, I've seen when, did they go 11 and 0, 10 and 0? I think they started something like that. I've seen him play really well. You've seen every other quarterback in that division have a higher peak. You've seen every other quarterback in that division win a playoff game.
Starting point is 01:07:57 You've seen every other quarterback in that division have, I guess you could say Caleb hasn't had a better start to finish season than Kyler's best season, but I would disagree if you include the playoffs. And so I just, I don't know why people all of a sudden think this is going to work. So are you, let me ask you, are you saying it's not even worth like? Because I, I'm not sure. I think Look, he was rookie of the year
Starting point is 01:08:20 He was a two-time Like legitimate pro bowler And then he struggled Since he's had injuries And all that If he's humbled If he has truly been humbled And he should be
Starting point is 01:08:33 Because the Cardinals are paying him 37 million to go away And play for somewhere else If he's been humbled enough To study the playbook And really be on top of that Not be as arrogant and all that listen to O'Connell and not try to be Superman every play,
Starting point is 01:08:51 be Clark Kitt more often, but then pull out the cape and be Superman when it fits. I think he could have a really good year there, and I just think it's worth a shot. And I won't be surprised if indeed he has a very good year and becomes at least their guy for the next couple years. So that's, so if they are just done with J.J. McCarthy, which, again, it's weird for me
Starting point is 01:09:17 because I didn't like J.J. McCarty. I didn't like the pick, but I also don't like the process of giving up on him after 10 games. But let's just say J.J. McCarthy's out. If the question is, is this worth a flyer? My answer would be yes. Buying him is a long-term fix.
Starting point is 01:09:32 He is, and we did this when this was a hypothetical. If you put pin to paper, we would universally agree at 20 quarterbacks, easily better than him. Let me show you this graphic. This is since Kyler's been in the league, seven years. Those are his ranks.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I mean, they're all well in the top. Completion percentage, yards per game, total, because obviously he uses his legs, total touchdowns and turnovers, and rush TDs among quarters. Those are surprising to me. I rock with Tyler, but I'm not going to be like. And that's being injured a lot.
Starting point is 01:10:06 But just real quick, Brew, if we agree the AFC is the stronger quarterback conference. Yeah. Right? You agree with me, I think. that just in his conference, Dak, Jalen, Jaden, the three quarterbacks in his division,
Starting point is 01:10:22 Goff, Caleb, Love, Baker, Stafford, Darnold. We're at nine. In a 16th, and I just did, oh, Purdy, I know you think Purdy's better than him. We're at 10 quarterbacks minimum in the NFC. But when he was playing, right,
Starting point is 01:10:38 and Donald did not have the highs that he had earlier in his career. Darnold did not have the intangible concerns Kyler has had. Donald was not disliked by his teammates, his organization, and didn't have the work ethic concerns. Donald also was not the smallest quarterback in the league. I just, I'm surprised the change of scenery can be this. It's one thing to be like, it's worth a shot. It's an, I saw a lot of the commentary was the Vikings could be scary next year.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Well, if you're rubbing up against 10 wins with Max Brosmer, who never had played football, KW. How many guys did they play? But McCarney, too. The Brosmer games things. He played two games. So, all right, so take Brazmer out and put Kyler Murray in. But I think you could win one of those games.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Yes, I think he's better than Max Brosmer. Okay. But that does not mean he's a longer than Carson Wentz? Yeah. J.J. McCartney. Okay, is it better than J.J. McCarthy. That is not mean he is a long-term fix. That's the long-term.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Right there. Three years. Two years, three years. I mean, that's a long term. I'm not thinking 10 years. No, but again. I think it's smart to take a flyer. How many wins do they have next year?
Starting point is 01:11:54 Seven. So you think they get worse? No, I don't think that they, you are, I don't, I don't think you bring back the exact same team you left with. We know they lost two of their best defensive linemen. We, we, I would imagine the defense will not be quite as good. Like there's, you know, right? Just because of personnel.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Flores is excellent. So I do think that they will get. They should get the games Kyler starts, and he's had an issue staying healthy. And last year, again, this is the last time we saw Kyler play, and it was not contract-related, a coach on the hot seat said, you're fully healthy,
Starting point is 01:12:33 we're playing Jacoby Rosset because he gives us a better chance to win. That's the last time we saw Kyler, his coach who was coaching for his job said Jacobi Brissette play for us. And now we're like, well, in the toughest quarterback division in football, he's scary. I just don't buy it.
Starting point is 01:12:54 You could be the worst quarterback in that division and still be a very good quarterback. I mean, think of the quarterbacks in that division. Yes, you could. You also be the worst quarterback in the division and just be Kyler Murray. It's worth taking a flyer for sure. Yes, that's it.
Starting point is 01:13:07 And I have no problem with O'Connell saying that. That's the sales pitch. because I think it's true. Look, this is your chance to come here. You got great receivers. You got a good tight end. Offensively, we're going to, you know, you got everything you need to have a great seat. Every argument you guys just made for Kyler, every single one of them would apply for Tua.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And I'd be sitting here in the exact same thing. What do you mean, Tua had a better year than Tua's health is always going to be a concern. Same with Kyler. Yeah, but I understand. It's a different thing, but as far as just for next year. just for next every single thing you guys are saying for Kyler would apply for Tua I think you might like I just I don't think always snap change of scenery fixes things and even for the guys we talk about that hey here are the redemption stories the snap change of
Starting point is 01:13:56 scenery didn't fix things multiple years yeah but none of them showed the promise he did earlier in their career none of the rare highly Baker Baker had no Baker did. Baker showed more. Chair of the podcast. If you get a chance, it's fantastic. In our YouTube channel, it's got all sorts of stuff going on, some exclusive behind the scenes stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:20 A quick episode of Winners and Losers. Start with Winter Hollywood. Eagle signed Hollywood Brown. Nick, do you like this move? Listen, I think it's called $6.5 million, which means it's $3 million. So, yeah, I think there's no problem with it. I believe it's a foregone conclusion that A.J. Brown's not going to be on the team.
Starting point is 01:14:42 And because of that, I think filling out the receiving core makes sense. And Hollywood's a, you know, imperfect player, I think is fair to say. But he's a talented player. He was actually pretty productive for the Chiefs last year. And so for that price, I think that's good value. Just to be totally candid. Yeah, I'm with it. Look, he's a better, right now he's their third option, their third receiver.
Starting point is 01:15:07 He's better than Jehan Dotson, who was their third receiver before. And if they do trade A.J. Brown, I mean, he's the number two to Devonte Smith. I mean, for the price, I think it was overall a win. I think that even if they trade A.J. Brown. They're going to get a receiver? Yeah, he is going to be their fifth. And I think their fifth pass catcher. Because I think he's Devonte, Goddard, Sequin, whoever they draft.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Yeah. You know, and he's good at that. Right. In that role, that's totally fun. Winner Streaks. Nikiel Alexander Walker scored 41 points, lift the Hawks to their 10th straight win. Brew, is it time to start talking about the Hawks? And if you say no, we're just going to move on.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Not really. Okay. Loser, taking it easy. But Nikiel Alexander Walker averaging 20 points a game. Yeah. Good for him. KD called for an eight-second. violation in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 01:16:08 This is bad. That's on KD, period. To one point game in the fourth quarter. He's not the point guard. Oh, he shouldn't be playing point. Can he see? Well, I'm just saying. If you need a sign that the Rockets need a point guard,
Starting point is 01:16:24 it's just leisurely bringing the ball up. By the way, hold on. I don't, show this again, though. I know he's not the point guard, and I really like KD. Also, you should know. Someone else has the ball, and he has, for it. Watch this. So if you're, you can say he's not the point guard.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Watch when we show this. He's got the ball. He's like, give it to me. Okay, get across half court. Yeah, that's fair. Especially when he's been saying, after the game, he's like, you know, maybe I shouldn't be bringing the ball. They need to have KD in his role.
Starting point is 01:16:55 He's a score. He's not a great defender, pass, or rebound. He's adequate at these things. Yep. Dribbling, running offense. Scoreer! I also have to take. Brew will hate, you might not.
Starting point is 01:17:12 If you're not being guarded, the eight second rule shouldn't be in the first. Like the shot clock's going. So your team, like, if you are not being closely guarded, I don't care about an eight second rule. Like, especially when it's like a point two. Like, it's just who. Well, they put it in the speed up the game back when the scoring was very low. Austin knew it.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Austin was counting down in his head. Okay. I didn't love that. He's got to know better. Winner 600. Steve Kerr won his 600th game in his 943 total games. He's the fourth fastest. Phil, Pat Riley, Pop, than Steve Kerr.
Starting point is 01:17:48 I don't know if a lot, you know, younger people, I don't know. Do people understand what he did with that Warriors team? No one thought that when he took over, no one thought they had championship talent. For the record, I did. Really? No one. They were winning.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Mark Jackson did a very good job with them. They were a second round and out team every year or even first round. They, nobody thought Steph had that. No. That everybody, Mark and others had him running point like everybody else in the league, high pick and roll all day long. He got him off the ball, utilized his shooting. He also sent David Lee to the bench and put Dreyline.
Starting point is 01:18:33 No, Lee got hurt. He got hurt and then he stuck with it. He lucked into Dreemine. But it still took to Merity for when Lee came back from injury. He was the highest paid player on the team. I disagree with you a little bit in this regard.
Starting point is 01:18:49 I do think the Warriors organization when they did the Iguodala trade, it was because they thought they could potentially compete for a title, which is why when Mark Jackson, they couldn't get out of round two, they fired him. What nobody saw coming was
Starting point is 01:19:04 they were about to, if his first two years, they won 140 games in the regular season. They is first two years they average and a championship and then 70 wins and a champion like they went 67 and 15 and then 73 and nine a title and then you know lost to Lebron. Loser sportsmanship on Kangu gets a tech here for throwing the ball at Desmond Bain. Now the story here is remember a few weeks ago when
Starting point is 01:19:31 Desmond Bain I think was following him and then in the process through the ball at him. Desmond Bain, not just shooting threes down there. So are you saying that he shouldn't have got whistled for a tee? No, I just like the storyline that Desmond Bain. I like having a memory on, hey, you did me wrong and I'm gonna get you back a little.
Starting point is 01:19:53 And we blew you out. They, the warrior, you were just raving about how well, no, Nick was. The match. They had been playing really well. So they ran into the Hawks. Yeah. Hawks are good.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Final winner, Comerodery, Team USA, showing up in Team USA's hockey jerseys. Now, are these game worn dusty? No. I doubt it. No, of course not. Okay, of course. That looks great though. That's like it.
Starting point is 01:20:18 I don't know. What type of question is that? They got the entire every game. Now, once I said it, I could see one or two. I could see Jack Hughes just sending it down. Just like, hey man. Just let it go, man. Were those games?
Starting point is 01:20:35 Worn? It was just a misspoke. No, just let it go. Just move on. I could see one or two guys sending the jersey down. You know when you took it. KW. You know when you took your sons.
Starting point is 01:20:49 It's either all or nothing. For not for Christmas, but as a Christmas gift to see LeBron and MSG. Yes. And you saw all those fans in those LeBron jerseys. Those, they just bought them. You can get those in the store. He didn't send them.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Those weren't game. I saw a video from Fanatics. They're opening up the jerseys and I was like, I was like, oh, wow, maybe. You think that if they were game worn, they'd be all sent from the people that make the jerseys? No, is that true, Dusty? What? Dusty, you better not be messing with me. Dusty's telling me that they're game worn.
Starting point is 01:21:25 If this is true. Where you get there from, Dusty? Michael Rubin himself, who's going to be on the show tomorrow. This is, you got to ask. How did he get Jack Hughes? First of all, Jack Hughes is not like a big. Multiple sources. They do look game war.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Let's go. Let's go. This is Isaiah Stuart all over again. This is Isaiah Stuart all over again. Yeah, I can tell they were. I could tell. You're called by you. Live from New York, first things first, overtime.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Lots of news. The Broncos do enough to keep their AFC West crown by signing Jalen Waddle. Meanwhile, what do the Eagles office? season moves being for AJ Brown. They just signed Hollywood. Does that mean AJ is headed to New England? Yes. And finally, it's Tuesday, which means it's top 10 Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Danny, what's on store for top 10 Tuesday? Top 10 players and coaches that will define the NCAA tournament. I think it's a great top 10 Tuesday. I love this event. I'm devastated to be working the next two days. If I'm being totally honest, I'd rather be at a bar, gambling, having some cocktails, watching games. Don't you dare.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I'm just saying, Matt. A little more big game. I mean, we can put the games on it. The other stuff you want to do. I like that, though. We got to have a TV with the game. I don't think that would lead to the best shows, guys. I mean, it's just there in the background.
Starting point is 01:22:52 We're all pros. We're all pros. You guys can do whatever you want with your TVs. I know what my TV is going to be on. It's a great show coming up. It's first overtime. We're starting in Denver. Jalen Waddle just signed.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Broncos. Get Waddle and a fourth round pick, number 11, Miami. He's getting Denver's first round pick, number 30. That gives them two in the first round. They also have pick 11. Waddle at his peak, very, very good. Two was out there slinging it. Danny, is this enough for the Broncos to keep their AFC West crown?
Starting point is 01:23:26 They give out crowns. You guys? You want to be sure everyone saw it. I wore the crown. No big deal. I'm shocked the Broncos won the AFC West last year, so I don't necessarily think that it's enough to do it, but it's an arms race in the AFC West.
Starting point is 01:23:46 This is one of the good things. We don't have too many teams that tank in the NFL, but the dolphins are, we'll call it a soft tank with all of their dead cat money, but they had talent. It's an NFL team. So it makes other teams that we care about more interesting. Like Tua makes Atlanta a little more interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Bradley Chub makes Buffalo a little more interesting. And this makes Denver more interesting. Like this is a great trade for the Broncos. And for the Dolphins, you get a first round pick to more accelerate whatever this is going to be, a rebuild, whether it's around Malik Willis, or whether it's around a quarterback in next year's draft. Like, I thought it was a trade that made sense for both teams. and Denver's offense got by last year on smoke and mirrors. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:35 On fourth quarter comebacks and close games against the Giants and the Raiders. And it was just like a real. Jets. And the Jets. It was like a weird season. Very hard to imagine they duplicate that or replicate it. So Jalen Waddle, is he a top 10 receiver? No.
Starting point is 01:24:51 But is he a number one receiver? I think he absolutely is. And so I do think that it, while I would pick them third in the AFC West, I personally would. It does make them close with the Chargers and the Chiefs. I think you can make a case for all three of those teams. And listen, I mean, they deserve credit. They won 14 games, and they feel, and if I were a Broncos fan, I would feel like,
Starting point is 01:25:16 and if our quarterback didn't break his ankle, we'd have been in the Super Bowl. They almost beat him with the backout. And you've got to play who's out there. And you mentioned it's an arms race in the AFC West, and that is true as far as the quality of the top three teams. What's not true is that it is not an arms race when it comes to the receivers of the AFC West. He's the best receiver in the division by a lot now.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Like the Chargers don't have a receiver anywhere close to him. The Broncos don't, you know, didn't prior. The Chief's best receiver right now is Rishie Rice, who is, I don't know if he's going to be a chief, you know, by week one. And the Raiders are rebuilding their team. Yeah, unless you count Brock Bowers. Right, he's not a receiver. He's his best pass catcher in Bowers.
Starting point is 01:26:02 And so it's weird because there's never been more great receivers playing at one time than right now, yet there's two divisions that really don't have any of them. The AFC East and the AFC West. And so like they're clustered where these great receivers are. I rarely like the trading the first round pick and something for a non-quarterback. I do like this one for Denver because it's a first-round pick but it's the 30th pick. They didn't acquire
Starting point is 01:26:35 any new players at free agency. They just kept their own players. They're not paying their quarterback. They had to get better at wide receiver. He's better in my opinion than all the free agent wide receivers. I'd rather have him than Alec Pierce. I'd rather have him
Starting point is 01:26:51 than trade, like go get Michael Pittman or try to trade for Michael Pittman. Well, Mike Evans. Or Mike Evans, pardon me. Or sign Mike Evans. And so I think this is a smart move. And I do look at this oddly.
Starting point is 01:27:08 You know, the Chiefs traded for the 29th pick. The Broncos traded away the 30th pick. Those are the two trades of the off season. The Chiefs with the Rams and the Broncos with the Dolphins, where I like it for both teams. Like all four teams involved in those two transactions, I understand why it made sense. It feels like they both sides felt like they got good value
Starting point is 01:27:32 and what they were trying to do. And I do think the Broncos, just because they won the division last year, doesn't mean they're the favorites to win it this year. In fact, by according to Vegas, it's close, but they are projected to be third in the division. So they did need to do something. I think this is smart.
Starting point is 01:27:51 I think this was a great move for the Broncos. I think the Broncos and the charts, are the two best teams in the AFC West. And, I mean, Broncos, their defense may not be quite as good as it was last year, but it should be very good. And offensively, they were just bad. They really, they averaged 23 points a game. They scored 13, beat the Jets, went 13, 11.
Starting point is 01:28:14 I mean, they had those comeback wins. This is their first, they have a real playmaker now. And so we know what Nix's strengths are, you know, and he's a guy that can get you. yards after the catch. He's obviously got the speed, so he's a deep threat. Cortland Sutton becomes a nice, really good number two. I think the running backs get better with this.
Starting point is 01:28:36 And look, I don't know what to make of the Chiefs right now. Obviously, they gave up a lot, let a lot walk out the door this off season. We'll see how well they rebuild through the draft. Mahomes has the injury. He hasn't had, you know, been great last couple years by his standards. will he get I've talked about being to me bringing him back and how much would I help so I the chiefs to me are I don't know what to expect from them I understand people giving them the benefit of the doubt for sure but I right now on paper and
Starting point is 01:29:11 going from what I saw last year I like the Chargers and the Broncos you know I hope you didn't see that segment I was just going to say we should should we break the news to him please don't because we said so we just didn't we had a segment where we just didn't diss Justin Herbert and Danny went crazy and what do you mean? Well the charge I took the charges from him officially. We
Starting point is 01:29:33 we're charged him. He even admitted it. I also said that's unaxed. I got to tell you some right now. Wilds gives me a hard time for you know doing things that are you know help the show grow but I have to be away from the show. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:29:47 And I understand now because if the decision, if the strategic decision made while I was gone was, hey, let's pick a team that doesn't have a fan base in its own city and that's the team we're going to attach ourselves to? That's a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:30:06 I don't make the rules. Stumbled into it. Well, I can tell you right now, we're not a Chargers show. You know why? Because there are no Chargers shows. You can be a Justin Herbert guy. I'm a Herbert guy. But I'm not picking them to win the AFC. I'm saying I'm picking.
Starting point is 01:30:24 They got a good chance. They got a good chance. Denver this was before this move, so I might pick Denver. You think Herbert might win MVP. You guys all try to steal take from each other. Brute, Wild Trends to steal win-be from Brue. That's what happened. You guys can have it.
Starting point is 01:30:38 I'm a Herbert guy. They're chargers guys. I'll just stick with the underdog chiefs and Patrick Malmes. Then nobody believes in them chiefs. It's fine. But aren't they projected to win the AFC West? It's a weird thing. You cannot say it's not allowed.
Starting point is 01:30:50 It's not allowed. It's not allowed. If Duke is not an underdog, Hey, there's the chief. Eagles are going Hollywood. Silver linings playbook starring Bradley Cooper. No, Hollywood Brown. One year deal up to $6.5 million.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Hmm. Do you think this is a precursor to AJ Brown getting traded? If it is, they have serious problems in Philly. I mean, Hollywood Brown is a sweet name. It feels like he should be so much better than he's a great idea. That's a great idea. That's a great idea. He hasn't had a.
Starting point is 01:31:23 100-yard games since week 3 of 2022. Oh. Now, he had five touchdowns last year for the Chiefs. He is in stretches of time a productive player still, and he is fast and the idea of Hollywood
Starting point is 01:31:38 Brown is great. But injuries, size situation, like, this is replacing Jahan Dotson. Yeah. Yeah. That's what. So I don't think it is a precursor to moving A.J. Brown. But they are moving A.J. Brown. Maybe. I know the Calf situation seems to suggest that they have to.
Starting point is 01:31:55 No, they're definitely, there's no big, they, you don't get, this is the part of it, I don't, do we all agree, they listen to trade offers for him? Yes. Yes. Do we all agree? Okay, so then that's it. That's, once you,
Starting point is 01:32:10 once you start dating other people, you're breaking up. They are, especially, the Raiders traded Max Cross. And guess what? And now he's saying he's going, he's, I'm all in, I'm ready. And you know what? I don't believe he's going to play for the Raiders.
Starting point is 01:32:26 I don't even know. He's saying no. I mean, and he's saying it. And at least Max Crosby doesn't have multiple years of being a pain in the ass for the Raiders and us feeling like they probably should have moved on from him. So I think that now it's going to have to be after June 1, which is after the draft. So I think the Eagles know they're trading A.J. Brown. And the J.L. Wattle trade, much like the.
Starting point is 01:32:52 McDuffey trade makes it very clear about what the price is. You are going to have to give up about, you know, a very late first round pick, ish for A.J. Brown. And somebody will. Like that's, so whether that means, I mean, he's going to be traded after. Right. So either a really good team trades their first rounder or it's a second plus a conditional fourth that can become a third based on, you know, this or that, like that type of value. But the Eagles are operating. as if AJ Brown won't be there because AJ Brown's not going to be there. And I can't imagine anybody thinks it's a good idea for him to be there.
Starting point is 01:33:30 This certainly, I'm with Danny, this better not be your answer. I mean, Hollywood Brown is a number, a very nice number three. He's better than Dodson. He's a very nice third receiver. If they're thinking he's going to replace AJ, they better draft a receiver, something like that, get another receiver in the trade. But he's not replacing AJ Brown if you want to win. in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Every team doesn't need two number ones. We just gave all these flowers to the Broncos for getting Jalen Waddle. I don't think Jalen Wallow is quite as good as Devante Smith, right? They don't have a Sequin Barton. You know what I mean? Like if you don't have a number one receiver, you usually got some phenomenal passing quarterback or run back or something like that. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:34:14 The Eagles right now have been operating with an embarrassment of riches from offensive talent. If you already have Sequin and you just kept Goddard and you have Devante Smith, you can trade A.J. Brown and not be like, well, if we don't have another top flight receiver, what are we going to do? You're going to be in the position a lot of teams wish they could be in. Except that quarterback. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:34:41 I mean, you think Jalen Hertz is going to make that offense better without A.J. I think Jailen Hurts is better than Bo Nix. And we just laid all these flowers at the feet of. You don't think Jalen Hertz is better than Bo Nick? Did you see how he threw the ball last year? I saw him. We can't do it. We can't.
Starting point is 01:34:56 We got to go to touch. Did you see how he threw the ball last year? I saw him in the confetti all over him in the Super Bowl. And I saw him. Bo Nicks is better than Jalen Harts. Throwing the ball. It's getting close, Nick. Time for Top 10 Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Today. Here we go. Top 10 players and coaches who will define the tournament. Stay tuned to the podcast. I get back on my Jalen Hertz corner. There's a lot of space on that corner. Can't wait for March Madness. 64 teams down to 16 over the next four days.
Starting point is 01:35:23 It's the greatest timer for Thursday to Sunday. Best time in sports. The players and coaches who will define the tournament. Coming in at number 10, it'll be the number one pick of the draft or two. Darren Peterson from Kansas. There was drama. Does he love basketball?
Starting point is 01:35:37 But he's compared stylistically to Dwayne Wade and Anthony Edwards and Kobe Bryant. How can you pass on him? But if he doesn't play, what's the deal? Quietly, last seven games, we do it by playing minutes, which is what you're going to need to make a run in this tournament. First 26 games, 30 or more minutes, only did it six times.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Last seven games, he's averaging 31 and a half minutes. He's past 30 minutes in five of the seven. Darren Peterson could cement himself as the number one pick if he takes Kansas on a deep run. They haven't made it past the Sweet 16 since they won their last title. Coming in at number nine, not a household name yet. Yaxel Lendenberg, the Lendenborg, excuse me. Best player on Michigan. This is the team I think is going to win the title. They are, he's going to be a first round pick. You watch Michigan for one minute and you've watched basketball before. You're like, oh, that team's huge.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Everybody's big. All of their guards are 6-4, 6-5-66. They've got a bunch of 6-9 guys. They got a 7-4 guy. They are just a massive team. Three losses on the year. He's the Big Ten player of the year. And I think that they're going to win the title,
Starting point is 01:36:38 small region for them. Coming in at number eight, Rick Petino. Back-to-back Big East regular season titles, back-to-back Big East tournament titles. Feels a little snub that they got the five-seed. instead of a four seed. He could become the first coach ever to take four different programs to a final four.
Starting point is 01:36:55 And in East region with Izzo and Hurley and Self and Shire, he's the only coach that you could see do this post game. Just pounding beers. Post game pounding. He's just enjoying. It's just more than half gone. The game just ended. That's what I'd be doing during March also, Rick.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Coming to number seven, Darius Aikov. Yes. This guy is a. an absolute stud. Bill Simmons just compared him to Kyrie Irving on his podcast. I don't know if I would go quite that far, but SEC freshman of the year, SEC player of the year. Only guys who've done that are Brandon Miller and Anthony Davis. He just averaged 30 a game for the SEC tournament. He is an absolute stud. And John Calipari, also like Rick Petino, trying to become the first coach ever to take four different programs to a final four. At number six, John Shire, head coach at Duke. Massive
Starting point is 01:37:48 pressure on Shire. He wins 27 or more games every year. He's at Duke. They're the favorite this year. They were the favorite last year. They blew that game to Houston last year and they're up five in the last minute. It's the longest title drought for Duke since they started winning titles in 1991. Their last one was 2015. John Shire needs to cut down the nets. Coming in number five, Todd Golden at Florida. They're the champs. Weird season for the defending champs. Preseason number three in January, Florida unranked. Then they go on this run. They're a seven loss one seed, but they've been playing so well. They're back to a one seed five days ago, seven days ago. Everyone is picking them to win the tournament. Then they get blown out by Vandy in the SEC tournament.
Starting point is 01:38:36 They can be the second program ever to have back-to-back titles multiple times. Billy Donovan, of course, did it. It would be them in UCLA. Coming in at number four, Kingston Fleming's, best player on Houston. Kelvin Samson. Everything on his resume except a national championship. Because of how the tournament broke and the regions, Rice is actually hosting that region. So the Sweet 16 and the Elite 8 would be in Houston. This is the best offensive player Kelvin Simpson's had at Houston.
Starting point is 01:39:03 He could be a top five pick, which would be the first for the Cougars since Hakeem Elyjuwon. They have more wins than any program in college basketball since 2017. But again, no title. Number three, trivia question. Big 12, best conference in basketball this year. Was the player the year in the big football? 12, Darren Peterson, number one pick. It wasn't. Was the player of the year in the Big 12, AJ DeBansta? If it's not Peterson, he'll be the number one pick. It wasn't. It was Jaden
Starting point is 01:39:29 Bradley at Arizona. He's played over 140 games at Arizona and he averages 13 points per game, but he's a journeyman college player. He's a winner, beloved there. Arizona thought of as this powerhouse program. They're a one seed. Their last national championship, 1997. That is Also the last national championship for a West Coast team. No team in the UCLA, Arizona, anybody. Also, they haven't been to the final four. The last six times they were one seed, didn't make it. A lot of pressure on Arizona to get over the hump.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Number two, history in the making here. I'm breaking the rule and putting two guys. Love it. Alex Caraband, Dan Hurley. Caravan, he's not the best player on Yukon, but he would be a player to win three titles in four years, first player to do it since the end of the UCLA dynasty in 1975. This could be Dan Hurley's third title.
Starting point is 01:40:20 List of coaches in college basketball history that have won three titles. You've heard the names. Knight, Calhoun, Roy, Rupp, Coach Kay and John Wooden. But to do three and four years, we can eliminate basically everyone on the list. Wooden and Ruff. So it would be the only modern coach. 10 and 12 years is pretty good team. Quality squad.
Starting point is 01:40:42 I think they were paying those guys? Quality squad. They dominated the sport. And then at number one. We go back to Duke, and it's Cameron Boozer. If you're the best player on the... Wilds make this list. Yeah, I'm right one and two.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Let's go. Yeah, best player, best team. He's going to win national player of the year. Only guy in the country averaging more than 20 points, more than 10 boards, and more than four assists. Camboozer, the player who will most impact this NCAA turn. Love this. Not a bad list.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I'm wondering, my guess is you left them off because you don't expect their team to do much. But AJ, DeBansta. So there's six seed at BYU. And, and Richie Saunders, their second best player got hurt and is out. So, like, he's not going to play in the tournament. They just don't look the same with that. DeBansta's amazing.
Starting point is 01:41:29 He's going to play 40 minutes a game. He obviously can will them to a- Five points a game. Yeah, but, I mean, he will probably play every, as long as BYU is alive, he probably will not even sub out. Like, he's, he's amazing. But it's just, we've seen great players on Underman's teams. They can't carry you that deep into the tournament when the rest of the
Starting point is 01:41:48 the guys around you are not that good. So his floor is number two pick. His ceiling is number one pick. I just don't think there's that much to gain for him this tournament. I want to talk about Darren Peterson, but I think I disagree with that last point you made. That one guy can't. And that one great player,
Starting point is 01:42:09 but Dwayne Wade took Marquette to the final four. Like we have. Steph Curry and Davidson. I mean, I think you're thinking of Durant. Durant didn't go far. Right. It's not a guarantee.
Starting point is 01:42:18 having one great player, but a lot of the guys who turned into great pros, not a lot, but a handful were on somewhat undermanned college teams and took them deep. Obviously, Argyne Mello, he had one other pro on his team, Akeem Warwick, and they win the whole thing. My small pushback to that would be, like, now the top teams are so good. You got guys making six figures that are bench players because of NIA. I think that there's a huge gap between the top teams in this tournament and the middle and lower teams. So I think we're going to see a lot chalkier tournaments going forward just like last year.
Starting point is 01:42:57 I totally agree with that. I think you're filling out your bracket going boring chalk the first weekend is the smarter play. But also then just don't even do it. Don't even do it. But Darren Peterson, I think should be higher because, you know, because, you know, I think he could, I think you'd go anywhere from one, two, or three in this draft, and I think a lot of it will have to do with how he does in this tournament. I think NBA teams want him to be the number one pick.
Starting point is 01:43:30 I think he has the highest upside. He's ridiculous. And I think that he would, his, the oddity of his season is the reason that he could potentially fall. I think he puts together three awesome games. and they just make the sweet 16 and lose, he's the number one pick of the draft. And so I just think Darren Peterson is the most talented player in college basketball
Starting point is 01:43:56 and has a chance to take a team that's not a one or a two seed on a run if he plays 30 minutes. Good, and you're rocking with Kansas, no, I'm not. My pick is Houston. And Houston, the only thing you looked out on Houston is they're in Florida's region.
Starting point is 01:44:13 They lost in the National Church. championship game, not getting a shot off against Florida. They now potentially have that game as a rematch in Houston to get to the final four. I think Houston wins it. I think Flanis. Danny, who's your pick to win at all? Michigan. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Who's your final four? You already said Michigan. Oh, my final four. Give me someone else other than Michigan. You don't have to do the final. Well, listen, I like the Houston pick because of the draw there. And I do think Arizona. Like I said, I think I'll tell you what, Big East, out early.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Out early. Yeah, both St. John's and Yukon. going to be very disappointed this year. Big East is not very good. St. John's, Troy, Troy, I believe in you. After you hooked us at the garden. Coming up next, Jerry Jones, classic Jerry Jones talking about his team.
Starting point is 01:44:59 And if he didn't do something, they would have been good. Who did that? Next on first things first overtime. Tonight, it's the final game of what has been an incredible World Baseball Classic. And they're rocking the Team USA sweaters. Look good, feel good, play good. I see the vibes. It's all about the vibe.
Starting point is 01:45:19 That's right. Team USA is playing Ronald Ocuna Jr. in Venezuela. Coverage began 7 Eastern for Pacific on Fox. Thanks so much for hanging out with us on the O.T. I got Willie Colon out here alongside me. Let's go to Dallas. This is going to shock you. Okay. But Jerry Jones was talking. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Yep. He said something at the Arlington Grand Prix on the offseason free agency and the moves that have happened to this point. Let's take a listen to Jera. What we really have coming back from our veteran defensive players that really didn't play that much last year, injury issues, things like that, gives us a lot of promise. And I'll tell you, when you have the challenges we had last year, there's no place to go but up on the defensive side of the ball. And had we played a lick of defense last year, we'd have had ourselves, and I think, a real playoff run. So that last part is certainly debatable, but he's right. They had a terrible defense, so that part's not debatable. So, Willie, do you see the Cowboys improving, regressing, staying the same?
Starting point is 01:46:27 They were a seven, nine and one team last year with a great offense and a horrible defense. Well, so in my eyes, it's regressing slightly. Wow. Because Jerry has come out before this one bite we just saw and said, hey, man, we're going to make a splash free agency. We're going to shock the world. We're going to spend money. Obviously, you know Max Crosby, no Trey Hendrickson. And you're saying to yourself, where's the splash?
Starting point is 01:46:51 But Rishon Gary doesn't qualify for you? Would you put them up there? No. Right. No. I was kidding. Fourth round pick. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:58 So I understand, like, yes, you have a Sean Gary. Gary. You do have Jalen Thompson. But there's still more needs. There's still more needs at DB. Right? Like, you understand. Deron Bland is coming off foot surgery.
Starting point is 01:47:12 He had in the off season. You also got to think about they need inside lineback help. They also need another edge rusher. And so you could either go get a Joey Bosa, or this talks about going to getting Alex Highsmith from the Steelers. You got T.J. Watt making $40 million. They have a young dog of Nick Herbig, who they want to get more reps. Maybe Jerry works out a deal with say, hey, give us Highsmith.
Starting point is 01:47:30 We give you draft capital. Steelers won it, especially for next year's draft. So there's options. But right now, they still need more. But it's still early. So I'm not doubting Jerry can have something. up asleep, but right now it looks kind of, it looks mid. Six, seven, as the kids were said.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Oh, my God. Please don't say that anymore. I get it enough for my kid in kindergarten. He thinks it's so funny. So I think, and this is not the sexiest answer, but I bet on staying about the same, because I do think they'll be better on defense this year. Okay. I think they'll be better because of you assume a little bit better health, the additions that we just showed on the graphic.
Starting point is 01:48:10 They have the 12th and 20th pick in the draft. I would assume that those resources go more towards the defensive side of the ball, if not both of those resources to the defensive side of the. So I do think their defense will be better this year. But their offense will probably be worse. Really? Well, I mean, like, are they going to get it? Javante leaves.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Are they going to get as much statistical production from the running back position? Are they going to be as healthy as they were on the offensive side of the ball? Is George Pickens playing under a franchise tag or a contract? We'll see how that goes. Is he going to have the best season of his career? where he was an all pro player. Like I just, they have the talent to be the number one offense in football, and they were really good last year.
Starting point is 01:48:51 But those are, you just ripped off a bunch of what ifs, all right? So I'm saying my guess is the defense is better and the offense is worse, as we now both have done the. But I also think the problem with Jerry and the Cowboys, they're kind of stuck in this old model where they want to build through the draft when the rest of the league is making trades and getting free agencies. But we also got to understand the Cowboys last year didn't get a receiver in the draft, So they turned around and said, hey, called up Steelers, give me George Pickens.
Starting point is 01:49:15 And that worked out for them. So with all that said, man, to me, this is like the second quarter in a free agency. Like, there's still a lot of game left. Are they down a couple points? Sure, because I don't think they got the splash pieces that we expected. Nevertheless, man, something has to happen in the draft and make us go, we got something here. Well, the good news is it's the Cowboys. We'll probably talk about them again.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Oh, without a doubt. Between now next year. So we'll make a promise to you. Sometime between now and the draft, we'll do this again. and see where they're at. And certainly after the drafts, because that's where their biggest resources are going to come with those two picks in the top 20.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Let's go to Vegas. They actually have a bigger prize in that draft, and that is the number one overall pick. So Rich Gannon, he was in on the Raiders morning commute, a show that the Raiders website puts on, and he was asked about his perception of Fernando Mendoza with the Raiders holding the number one pick, and this is Rich Gannon's evaluation.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Take a listen. There's one thing that you get an impression of a player and a person. He's got presence about him. that's pretty impressive. He's very thoughtful. He's very mature. He doesn't give you canned answers. He's got a ton of energy and passion.
Starting point is 01:50:22 He loves football. He wants to learn. I think he's got a lot of the qualities and intangibles that you really love with that position. It's all about putting together a great squad, a great team that can go out and compete with anybody. You know, it's the big three. It's carpool karaoke, comedians and cars getting coffee,
Starting point is 01:50:38 and the Raiders Morning Commute. Those are the big three for content. It's really great, by the way. You see the silver fox look? Yeah, I can say you like that, D.P. Not quite. I am graying, but that's for having two toddlers. Are you buying that Mendoza can resurrect the Raiders like Rich Gannoness?
Starting point is 01:50:53 Listen, I have my reservations about Mendoza. I think I've been honest about that. He won a national championship, but I'm not overly sold that he can be a difference maker like a young Joe Burrow, right? I don't see that. But nevertheless, man, I do think they're going to build around him. But I also think if you're the Raiders right now, it will behoove you if you go out and get a veteran quarterback that can help this young man develop. If you got a chance to go get a Joe Flacco or Kirk Cousins where, you know, he can sit a little bit, watch and kind of, you know, growing to being a legit pro. And John Spitech, the GM for the Raiders flat out and said, hey, we're not in a rush to start this dude, right?
Starting point is 01:51:31 We want to kind of build this thing, get some structure. But I also think if you get a veteran quarterback and you're able to win with some of the pieces you have right now, which is it a lot. They still need help in the receiver room. I think it's not about developing Mendoza. It's also helping Clint Kubiak out. Because if you're able to win, man, you build equity in that locker room, right? Because Clint Kubiak right now, all he knows is leaving a Super Bowl outfit in Seattle. Now he has to step into Las Vegas where there's obviously a lot of holes.
Starting point is 01:51:58 And all this team knows how to do is lose. But if he's able to change that narrative, now guys in our locker room now, look at him, say, all right, you are the guy. Like, where do we go now? Oh, you want us to follow this young kid? Okay. So I think the synergy and all those moves can work hand-to-hand, but they got to continue to build this roster. I think that they are doing a pretty good job of building the roster.
Starting point is 01:52:18 They're in a better position today than I thought that they could have been with, I think you like 60% of your offensive line. You like Colton Miller, you like Linderbaum, you like JPM, you like JPM as one of your guards. You like Gentie. You like Bowers. You sign Naylor. So you've got a great tight end, a great running back prospect,
Starting point is 01:52:34 and at least a competent wide receiver. You bring in Clint Kubiak. It's like that is the, that is certainly the foundation for a pretty good offense. The bar is really low in Vegas and quarterback. Let's just look at what the Raiders have had recently. Like in the post-Darric Carr world, last, they have started seven quarterbacks, and they have basically generated the same number of touchdowns as turnovers. A one-to-one ratio is not good.
Starting point is 01:52:59 And so I think there's a lot of reason for optimism here. And I, we have plenty of time, whether they start. start him right away or not, between now and the draft, after the draft, to evaluate, like, a nuts and bolts thing on Mendoza. What I will just say as a fan of a team that never had a good quarterback in the Chicago Bears, and the team that I covered before I covered, the Bears was the Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs from Todd Blackledge in 1983 until Patrick Mahomes. So 83 until 2017.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I was born in 83. Okay, I'm born in 86. they won exactly zero games with a quarterback that they had drafted. They went three decades without doing it. The Bengals were the bungles and then they got Joe Burrow. The Bears had never had a quarterback and then they get Caleb. So like one quarterback really can turn it around. I don't know if Mendoza is going to be that guy,
Starting point is 01:53:57 but we did not necessarily think that Patrick Valhombs was going to be that guy. There was. All system fit, all that had to work in the line. Sure. There's a million reasons why the stars have to align. All I'm saying is, offensive coach, play caller, solid foundation of an offensive line, other high-end prospects at skill position around him, a number one pick quarterback who won a national championship. It is the formula to do it. It might not work, but this is the correct formula for a team to hit it big. Yeah, I don't think, I'm with you. I think they're doing it the right way. My thing is sometimes when you
Starting point is 01:54:34 If you don't win early Or if you don't kind of change the narrative There's going to be a need to get him out there early Right? Like well if you're losing all these games Just get them out there. Sure. And this is why I'm saying If you get a guy who can stabilize the offense
Starting point is 01:54:46 And be confident at the line of scrimmage Like a Flacco or Kirk Cousins Then you could tell this kid All right develop without being in a panic mode Right? Because I see it with the Jets, right? It was such a need at that position When you know they figure out they were to start Zat Wilson Whatever man it was just like me get them out there
Starting point is 01:55:01 And so the hope is, though, that pro-style system, a little bit older player, that he should be more ready to play than a Zach Wilson or like a Mitch Trebisky who got ruffed in also. But Indiana had a squad. I think people underestimated how good that team was. Yeah, it was pro-style. We'll see how many pros they end up churning out. Time now for a little game. He said we said where we listen to the best sound across the world of sports and then give you our instant reaction. We will start first with the Hall of Famer Rod Woodson. He was on the Rich Eisen Show, Willie, to give his thoughts on your Steelers and the waiting game they are playing for Aaron Rogers. Take a listen.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Is he going to play? Listen, I get kind of tired of it. Like, listen, if he's going to play, say he's going to play, he's going to come back. He shouldn't and the team shouldn't wait for Aaron Rogers. They need to move forward. Amen. But they have no choice. Like they, they've gone down this road.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Yep. They've gotten into the metaphorical bed with Aaron Rogers because they are not willing to hit the reset button and bottom out, even though bottoming out last time is what got them. Ben Rothlisberger, you and I disagree on that. We do not need to rehash it. Because so much had to happen for the Steelers to get Ben. And I think we never talk about that side of it.
Starting point is 01:56:21 I mean, they had to win six games. No, I'm talking about in the draft process. Oh, but okay. But, I mean, the, the best pass. to getting a great quarterback is to having a high pick. Historically, it can get it in other ways. I would just say there is no other option at this point for the Steelers. The pivots are Will Howard and Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 01:56:41 So of course, you're going to wait for Aaron Rogers. But also don't have any empathy for the Steelers. This is what they signed up for. I don't. And I also understand the Steelers standpoint. Of course, they're going to leave the course light on when you have a quarterback that won you to divinion. You landed in the playoffs and you erased a ton of deficiencies on the office that was broken.
Starting point is 01:56:59 So yeah, you keep the light on, and this is what you signed up for, and this is what it is. I mean, he's going to come back. I mean, you're not getting Pittman and Rico Dado unless those guys understand that Aaron Rogers will be in the lineup with him. The only thing that I don't really understand at this point, and I guess it's Aaron Rogers for trying to figure it out. Like, I'm not wasting much brainpower on it, to be honest. It's like, I don't really believe him when he says the Steelers do not have, he doesn't have a contract offer in front of him. So why say it? Like, are you tweaking the team that you are going to ultimately play for?
Starting point is 01:57:28 Are you hoping, like, were you hoping that Minnesota was going to offer you? That's done. It was Kyler. Like, what is the point in waiting at this point? That is what I don't really get. Before, before he joined them, okay, you can squint and see it. You're a stealer or you're retired? Those are the options.
Starting point is 01:57:45 Yeah, but this is what Aaron Rogers does this time of year. He holds the NFL hostage. Okay. And we all sit and wait. We have these conversations. And then before you know it, he's back out there. I get it. I just, at this point, there's really one option for you.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Next up, though, Jonathan, Allen on what enticed him to sign with the Bengals. For me, I want to go somewhere that we have a chance to compete and where I feel like I can showcase my talents and help, you know, help the team at the same time. And this is one of the few places where I felt like I could have my cake and eat it too. I mean, again, we have a guy like, bro, you always have a chance. You're never out of it. And, you know, with the coaches we have here and the players that they already have
Starting point is 01:58:20 in and they've been bringing in. I just felt like this is the perfect fit for me and my family. So the idea of them being a contender is interesting. It's wild. So I just, please don't say that you think the Bengals are going to be contenders. So I just learned to Vegas for it. They have the same win total over under nine and a half as the Bears, Jaguars, Texans, and Broncos. All of those teams were playoff teams last year.
Starting point is 01:58:47 So if you make, you always talking about, hey, if you make the playoffs, you got a shot. Yep. All those teams are playoffs. Now, their Super Bowl odds are the longest of those among those teams. Part of that, I think, is being in the AFC. Part of it is the AFC North, all of those things. But it's like, at this time of year, I like to have a cast a wide net for the term of contenders. Okay.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Because it's just, it's the NFL. Weird things happen. Once we get closer to the season, I'll start whittling it down. But, like, if you're him, can you realistically sell yourself on that? Maybe we're going to have the best offense in football and the 20th best defense and squint. And that makes us a contender. Yeah, listen, I think the Bengals are built to win a shootout. Nevertheless, if you're defensively, if you're a vangelo-train, you just lost Trey Henderson.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Yes, you did. And so, yeah, you got Boya Mafay, who as Jews, Jonathan Allen is an inside presence. But there's so much, you just need more. Just be frank about it. And if you're in a division right now with, I think the Ravens, who knows what they're going to be, but I think the Steelers is going to be better. And listen, at the end of the day, it comes down to Joe Burroughs being healthy. If he's not healthy, he doesn't get through season, you're not.
Starting point is 01:59:57 going to the playoffs. So I, listen, I'm glad I, he just signed the team. He's got to have that optimism, but I don't see it. That was the other thing. I was thinking about like, is it just the thing you say when you go to a new I can you not? You can't be new in the building like, well, this stinks. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:00:11 Our defense has problems. We're probably not going to win a contract. Wait, but like, so basically any player who signs on any team can say, yeah, we came here to contend for a title. He just attached Joe Burroughs name to it, which I do think gives it some validity. Correct. Okay, yeah. Let's talk.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Let's get to the NBA here. I love talking hoops with you, Willie. Kevin Durant, tough game last night against the Lakers, and he put a lot on his own shoulders after the game. Take a listen. I missed two wide open threes when we were up to one point I could have pushed us up for us. I just felt like I lost the game for us tonight.
Starting point is 02:00:45 That's simple. I mean, my teammates could, I mean, of course, we probably can make more threes. But it's all on me. I mean, to be honest. I'm the offense, and the opposing team is going to use all their resources not let me get comfortable.
Starting point is 02:00:59 So I love Durant. He's a hooper. He's honest to a fault. He did have a really bad game last night, but whatever, bad games happen even for the best. Sure. If post Golden State, if it's the nets where his toes on the line or else they beat Janus, and then Janus goes on and wins, like a failure, I guess, because they didn't win, but they at least had that moment in that run.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Phoenix unmitigated disaster but I will maintain not his fault right like they sold out for yeah and it's just a really flawed team
Starting point is 02:01:37 with with Beal Booker and Durant and their redundancies like that that was just a bad plan from Jump Street and Durant played well if this one fails they're the fourth seat in the West they should compliment each other well he was supposed to solve their half court scoring
Starting point is 02:01:52 issue they have young talent they have Shangoon this will be the one that's the toughest to explain of the post golden state failures because the the net's thing it was like your foot your foot was on the line right it happens you lost him and James and Kyrie never really played a lot together yeah but and like you lost to Janus who won a title like it's okay the Suns thing anyone could have seen that coming if this fails I will be like over the year next year that I'll be very surprised I thought that he was the perfect
Starting point is 02:02:20 addition for that well I understand him being a leader stepping up like this is on me they didn't have Shane Gould I mean he had seven The team had 24 turnovers, but collectively he realized in the second half, they started trapping them, and really putting them in and bracketed him. He felt like, man, that kind of neutralized him. Which set the blueprint on how you're going to play the Rockets moving forward. So he goes, if that's going to be the outcome, I've got to be better because I've been through this and I know how this works out.
Starting point is 02:02:44 So I respect it. I understand why he took it on the shoulders. Well, he also, he does that always, man. Like he likes to hoop. He doesn't really, he'll get online. He'll spar with people. I love KD online, by the way. He will invite.
Starting point is 02:02:56 He'll invite some criticism. But yeah, without Shengun, he's got to think, I am the offense. But that team, there's something missing even with Shengun. And I don't, like, Shepard and Thompson and Smith. Well, it goes back to what you're saying. They should be better. When you, when you KD, you're the closer, right? Well, five minutes left in the game, the ball goes through you.
Starting point is 02:03:17 And when you don't show up, you only have two points in the second half, you're like, that can't be it, right? And so at this time of year, this is about positioning and momentum. And they needed this one. Yeah, well, the Van Vleet injury is obviously a huge problem for them. And I don't know whether they're going to go to get better in the offseason if they're one and done in the playoffs. We got a world baseball classic final tonight. You can, of course, check it out on Fox.
Starting point is 02:03:39 USA is a heavy favorite. We'll see if we're doing any guarantees coming up on the O.T. You may have the best two players in the game. Definitely the best two right fielders in the game. And Aaron Judge and Ronald O'Cuna Jr. And they both hit in the first inning. If you're at home watching, do not miss that first inning because you may miss some fireworks. I do think that to answer your question more specifically, Chris, the winner of the first six innings, I believe, wins the game.
Starting point is 02:04:07 I thought A-Rod was absolutely fantastic earlier today with the guys. When he gets real granular talking baseball, it's must watch. We got two powerhouses, Willie, tonight. Basically, A-Rod's analysis there was, you got to win the first six innings because no one's getting anything off of the bullpens late. We know Venezuela's bullpen stacked and the entire Team USA roster is stacked. They're about a three to one favorite, Team USA, which makes me nervous for it being a baseball game because anybody can win a baseball game. You willing to guarantee a win? How are you feeling? I feel, listen, what's weird about Team USA.
Starting point is 02:04:42 I think they started off villains and they have a chance to end as a hero, right, with everything that started off. But I think right now, momentum's on the team USA side. I just feel like having to, they had a significant win against DR. Like no matter how you felt about it, what you felt about the last two innings, but I think the way they played and they responded. I said it to you yesterday. The Dominican Republic were averaging 10 runs a game. They help them down to one run, right? And now you go into this game against Venezuela.
Starting point is 02:05:09 You feel like, man, there's nothing we can't do. I will just say, like, you know the joke? Like, I just hope both teams have fun. Like, honestly, like, because, you know, root for Team USA. I understand. It's great. It's a loaded roster. but to hear Arod talk about it and to watch,
Starting point is 02:05:26 it is so clear how this is like a World Cup Olympic level event for the Latin American countries. This would be a great, very cool story of Venezuela won it also. So it should just be an amazing sporting event. Check it out tonight on Fox. We'll talk about it tomorrow on the OT.

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