First Things First - Lions beat breakdancing Ravens, Jaxson Dart named Giants starter, Mahomes Mountain

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

(0:00) Lions beat Ravens in ‘very concerning’ loss, Lions have ‘swagger back’ (27:13) Jaxson Dart named Giants starter, Eagles need to rely on Jalen Hurts more? (43:01) Nick Bosa out for season, Can the 49ers survive another injury? (47:44) Mahomes Mountain (01:07:47) Ravens troubles, Should Micah Parsons get a tribute video from Cowboys? (01:22:43) Brou’s MVP Ballot  (01:26:03) Lions ‘put league on notice’, Panic time for Ravens?  (01:49:03) Danny’s Top 10 Teams (01:59:11) Bigger story the Ravens loss or Lions win? (02:08:38) Can the Undefeated 49ers keep it going? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Live from New York. It's a show that is not taking the latest Ravens loss very well. You know the only team that can beat them is themselves. It's the only team. That is true. We are in the dark on what is happening. Where is it? The show's on, bro.

Okay, this is too much. It ain't funny. Little help wiles. Are you all right, bro? That arms in a sling don't use it to prop himself up. He is a great actor. Oh, man, while those lions are brutal. Before I could even get the word sandwich out of my mouth, they jumped on me.

They stripped me of my robe. But thankfully you got a bet. They plop down on my couch. They made me turn on eight mile. The movie, with them and them? Yeah, we're gonna remember. And then, this is hard to say. They forced me to make them a sandwich with some chips.

And then the worst part was, they wanted a certain type of soda that's huge in Detroit. in Detroit. And I had to drive all over town just to get some Vernor's soda pop. Oh, it's Detroit. It's big in Detroit, I guess.

Created in Detroit. And that's, they weren't kind to me while. Are you good to do the show? Yeah. Yeah, I haven't even started the show yet. I think I can make it. Okay. Well, good luck. Thanks for making it here.

I would have called out. Well, you, yeah. We know that. We know that. You did that earlier last week or something. I told you guys all along. I play hurt. I play hurt.

Today, the Lions Roll the Ravens. Did Detroit prove they're fully back? And is it panic time for Brew? Meanwhile, news out of New York breaking this afternoon. Russ is out. Dart is in. Is the Hall of Fame now out of reach? And finally, well, it's Tuesday.

can Patrick Mahomes move up his namesake segment after a fall from the top of Mahomes Mountain alongside Nick Wright. I'm Kevin Wilde. Brew, are you feeling a little bit better after the open? You kind of still have some marks on your face that we might need to address it somehow. I don't know. I haven't been beat up like that in a long time. I imagine it's been a wild. Usually I beat myself up.

Yeah. This time I just got beat. Yeah. This flat beat up. We're starting with no sandwiches, but the Ravens did get rolled. Yeah, good job. Thank you. Lamar was sacked seven times as the Lions offense ran all over the Ravens,

racked up 224 yards and scoring on drives of 96 and 98 yards. Here's Lamar. I feel like week one was a wake-up call, you know, not just this loss. Week one was a wake-up call. Last week was a wake-up call, you know, because we started off slow last week. And, you know, we got beat tonight. Lions had, they had a great game plan. I feel like office and defense for those guys.

They're great. We just got to find a way to win. Brew, it's a time to worry. I mean, I feel like the Chiefs, they're going to make the playoffs. They'll probably win their division because it's a bad division. And we'll see what happens against the Chiefs. But they're SBOP. And for that, I wouldn't worry this too much.

There's still 14 weeks left in this regular season. but I'm very concerned. Thank you. That defense, we talk about the Bengals defense, we talk about the Cowboys defense. They're not that bad. I know you've got a chart and we'll see where they're ranked and they've played two of the best offenses in the league in Buffalo and Detroit. But that ain't a championship defense. I mean, and Nick, I was serious when I said after week one that they are the only team that can beat them is themselves.

Detroit beat them yesterday. Thank, yes. Detroit beat them. And look, it wasn't a blowout, but they dominated the line of scrimmage. They rushed for 224 yards, all right? They only allowed the Ravens to get 85 yards rushing. That's the fewest amount of rushing yards the Ravens have had since Derek can rejoin the team. Since the season opener in 22, that's 52 games they had rushed for more yards than that.

And then last year, they were first. in the rushing yards for offense and first in fewest rushing yards allowed. Yes. And Detroit just came in there like Dan Campbell and pushed them around. And so that's concerning. Offensively, they weren't good in the red zone. They haven't been good this year in the red zone so far. Last year they were number one in the red zone.

This year, they're like 17. So I expect that to get better. But it's kind of like if it's not one thing, it's another. Last week, the defense, it was the Browns, okay, but the defense was pretty good. This week, the defense fails you. The first week, Derek Henry has a fumble. He's fumbled every game. I don't expect that to continue.

But they are, I know you think it's not good for them to face the Chiefs next week. I think that might be the best thing for me. Oh. Well, listen, I mean, maybe. I have to say this a couple things on a tough day for you. This is one of the reasons I love working with you because I get irrationally angry at what I think is inconsistent. I don't get mad at bad commentary or what I think is incorrect commentary. I get really frustrated at what I think is inconsistent commentary.

And what you said at the front end, which is correct, just like you had said, even if the chiefs had lost to the Giants or one of these teams is going to, to lose next week. You wouldn't be writing either one of them off to make the playoffs and potentially do damage in the playoffs. It would have been ridiculous, in my opinion. It is ridiculous, I should say, for folks who didn't have that mindset, which have been rife across sports media, that the chiefs are in a five-alarm fire to then come on TV today and be like, man, the story is Detroit's really good. Right now, the chiefs in Baltimore, both have plays, played one bottom feeder and one in a different type of ugly game. For the Chiefs, it was ugly because the offense couldn't get going.

For the Ravens, it was ugly because in that Browns game, they actually, no, they, I didn't think the Ravens defense was that good against the Browns. It was just opportunistic, but the Browns moved the ball, and they both have lost two kind of mojo sapping games against two other contenders. But I will also try to be consistent and say, I agree with you, Brew. I think the Ravens are fine when it comes to are they going to make the playoffs? I think they lose Sunday and be fine. They could maybe lose the week after.

I'd still be like, ah, in the AFC, because it's really hard to find the seven playoff teams without Baltimore and Kansas City being in. You got at least six losses. Right, exactly. Fine for the playoffs. but what I will not say is that the Ravens are fine. Like, I think they are fine for the playoffs. Lamar seemed pressed in the opening drive.

Like, he played well, and then we pulled a montage of every time they didn't score a touchdown. Oh, yeah, he was. They were coming off a win against a team that they rolled the last time they played that plays in a conference that he's. He always beats at home on Monday night where you would, like, he seemed pressed throughout. Obviously. On the field, he's looking, you know, at the play call. Exactly.

He just, he seemed stressed in a way, to be fair. The chiefs have seemed stressed thus far this year. But the chiefs weren't coming off a win by three scores. Like this, this was weird. Derek Henry obviously flipped out on the lost fumble. I'm glad you're not attributing the loss to the fumble because they could have won. it had he not, but that's not why they lost. And there's just there, there's just a lot of weird stuff going on with Baltimore.

And it all does really come down to this. Their defense is awful. And again, I will try to be fair. The chiefs without their top two receivers, they're without Kyle Van Nuoy and Matabuque. Now Matabuque, it's kind of a nebulous, scary neck thing. So we don't know how long he's going to be out. He would have helped obviously against the run. Yes, and Van Nuys should be back.

But this is what was so jarring. They got bullied. Those two 95-plus-yard drives running down your throat, the lions, and I'm not being funny, did come in their house, put their feet up, and they did everything that had made the Ravens, the Ravens. And for the Ravens now Wilds, for the first time since Lamar became a starter, back-to-back games without 100 yards rushing. First time since Lamar took over, back-to-back game without 100 yards rushing, for them to, for the first time in a while, it felt to me like lose a big game without the self-inflicted wounds.

I know Derek Henry fumbled, but it felt to me like Detroit was in control of that game, and it was going to take. And I'm going to say one other thing about Lamar, because they showed it during the game, that Lamar averages less than one throwaway per game over how. many games. Maybe throw it away a little more or get back to running a little more. His his refusal to get rid of the ball or take off and run really hurt him yesterday in those sacks. I know his numbers were great. I get all that. But the sacks were drive killers and he took seven of them. I totally agree. Like, I mean, his accuracy is incredible. Incredible. I mean,

he made some throws that were just ridiculous and he always does. But, you know, you're right, like some of those sacks where guys were tripping him up, if he had just taken off and ran, the old Lamar would have taken off and ran. And he's a great passer, so he's leaning into that, which I get. But he's got to try to find that balance because he had a lot, he left a lot of yardage out there on the field where he was looking to try to extend the player, make it, make it a pass, and he's going to have to run. You think that was all Lamar, or I forgot who had the sack, but it was just a one-on-one

Lamar and like they felt like they played a very disciplined game. Some of that was that, but some of it to me was, if I can quote my good friend and former co-host Chris Carter, what he would call where you think he went sacks, which is when a quarterback avoids a rusher and like loops around him and then seemingly forgets that guy's still here. You know what I mean? Eventually he's going to come back. There were a couple where the guy who Lamar first avoided and ran past.

then caught back up to him and got him. But here's the other thing, KW, because this is a tough day. Because that side of the table's Ravens side, you picked him to go to the Super Bowl. What's the mantra you came up with? Well, defense wins the championship. Defense wins championships.

That doesn't feel like a championship defense. Not last night. And last year, of course, they were terrible. Early on. They got better, but I think they can still. They'll improve, but they're the Ravens. improve defensive in the DNA. But you rarely, if ever, see them

get pushed around like that. I thought the Chiefs actually pushed them around pretty good in that AFC championship. Two years ago. But not quite like that. And so it's easier to fix the defensive backfield, which is what they did last year, than the toughness.

And I'm not saying they're not tough because they are. You're kind of saying that. No, they know they got pushed around last. And speaking up, so here's the thing. This is not a Chris Brousard-ish team. because he doesn't like silly teams. They lost week one in silly fashion. You talked about the defensive backfield.

Would you like to hear from a member of that defensive backfield on his podcast this morning that he released? Marlon Humphrey. Brew loves a great podcast from a non-champion player. Let's hear Marlon Humphrey this morning. Does he seem like a silly guy at times? I don't know. You guys take it from him.

Hello guys, we are here at the Marlon Humphrey Show and this is live fresh off a Monday night football loss. You know, I feel like you always got to address the workplace. Just a tad bit. It was a rough, rough evening. Usually you got an idea. This one is a little loss for words. All right. So bro.

So don't do the podcast. They're dropping. I'm definitely not feeling podcasts the day. The morning after a loss. So they're dropping podcasts. They seem a little vexed on the sidelines. They've had some silly losses. They couldn't run the ball, and they got the ball run all over them.

I hate to do this to you, brew. But it does feel like got. Oh, no. Oh, that's a bridge, too. Now that's a bridge too far. That's a bridge too far. As much as I love the breakers. Bro.

Y'all see this, Ravens? Y'all see this? Do something about this. Next week in Kansas City, do something about this. Because I will have some red-clad break dancers out here if y'all do. Well, I mean, it's got a, bro. They got run all over. They did.

Up and down the field. That's not their character. That's not who they are. That's not where they live. Well, it just happened. Oh, wow. They're still going. Oh, that was good.

Hats down. Wow. Wow. I'm just saying these, there are a lot of similarities to these and some teams. I refuse to accept that. That's all right. Fellas. Phenomenal as always.

Got a week to. Bruce. To get it straightened out. We can keep going, KW. There's no banner to drop. I thought it was a banner. On the other side of the ball, the lions have bounced back in a major way after their week one loss. We thought the coordinator turnover could hurt, but they responded by blowing out the Bears and now rolling the Ravens in Baltimore.

Let's check out the vibe in the Detroit locker room. Take a listen. All right, man, a great win. He did exactly what we said we needed to do to play complimentary freaking football, man. When we needed it most, every phase picked up the site, man. That's how you win. games against teams like that, man. And now you know what the barometer is like on the AFC. What did the Lions prove last night?

Swagger fully back. Yep. And this is the most points they have scored in back-to-back games since the Bobby Lane days in at least 60 years. I actually didn't check if it was Bobby Lane. I mean, they've scored 90 points. They never did that in the Ben Johnson era. And so, and they did it in a lion'sy way.

The flip on the goal line. That was a phenomenal play. From Amin Rod. Yes, exactly. And the guts. We got it right here. Yeah, that's awesome. The gutsyness, not just of going for fourth downs, but what was one of,

so my concerns for the lines going into the year were, How is the interior of the offensive line going to hold up? Last night they were phenomenal. How is Jared Gough going to be kind of emotionally after that playoff loss? Not only do I love that Dan Campbell went for that fourth down late in the game up seven at midfield, which I know Brew loves because he made it to ice the game. But doing calling a play that says, Jared, we believe you. We've been running all over them. We can, you know, nope, this is going to be Jared Gough, if you throw a good pass, we win the game.

And they won it that way. And all of a sudden, week one just looks like, ah, week one. You know what I mean? And you get, and they get Green Bay again. That's the other piece of it, because they're both contenders. It's nice, I think, if you're the Lions, that it's a divisional opponent. So it's not the only time you face them. Like, had the Eagles done that to them in week one, feels a little different.

But now you try to get some get back. So I think the Lions should feel obviously great about what they did last. Yeah, legitimate Super Bowl contenders, which I was having my concerns after week one and even week two because it was the Bears. I mean, and we'll see if the Bears can resurrect themselves this season. But that wasn't that impressive because of what we had seen from the Bears. But last night, of course, was impressive. And I thought shout out to the offensive coordinator, Johnny Morton, because he had been getting criticized, you know, Ben, John. this, Ben Johnson, that.

And he did a great job, as you saw that one play called. They had a flea flicker. They had a great mix of the run and the past. And Dan Campbell showed this. I'm the one. And I'm sure he's still great friends with Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, I would think. But they were getting a lot of credit for what he did. He did turn that franchise around.

And I think he showed that last night. And the way they did it was his style. They were daring. They had some trick plays. And they just punched the Ravens in the mouth. So I thought that was a big win for Dan Campbell. And the narrative, I don't think we'll hear much about Ben Johnson and Aaron Green being missed in Detroit. That's over.

That was a one, you know, off season and then the Packers game storyline, but this dead at it. Before we move on, can I ask you a question? Sure. Do you miss the lines a bit? I've sprung this on you, but I know. I was never fully out. I know, but you have, you, but they're your ex and the Eagles you moved in with and you're talking about, you know, changing your last.

There's elements of the trick plays, the flash. And you want, and there's a little bit of Chaudenfreude for you wanting to stick it to Ben Johnson. A little bit of that. I like, I like the bowling celebration I enjoy. that they're a good mix of tough and fun. You're also a long... Which I consider myself.

Yeah, and you're a long-standing margin of victory guy. Oh, I like that. The Eagles haven't quite been. It just feels like that Lions have a lot. Still have a piece of your heart, is all I'm saying. You've always believed in Jared Gough. Am I right? The Lions were the first team with two touchdown drives of at least 95 yards in a game since.

The New England Patriots did it. See, I know. NFL research, though. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Maybe it'll come back around. I mean, it's on the board. A way too early look at the first things first ball.

Part three, Ravens at Chiefs Sunday 425. Ravens opened up as two and a half point favorites in Kansas City. Now, remember the Eagles were only one and a half point favorites when we were there. And we thought that was on the verge of being disrespectful. We will start with you by our brew is getting bandaged up by our medical team. Is it panic time for whoever loses this game? Absolutely not when it comes to making the playoffs. When it comes to winning a championship, if I were the Ravens, I would already be a little panicked.

And if I lose this game, I'd be legit panicked. But first, hold on. I mean, we have to give this it's just due. It is first things first bowl three. We have to have that just to remind the audience at all times. we're discussing this game. It's great photo. I mean, it is, it is great.

So listen, both of these teams are one and two. And I know people get tired of hearing me say this, but it is the truth. One of them has been to seven straight AFC title games, five of the last six Super Bowls, one, three of the last six, and been to three in a row. The other one in that same time frame has been to zero Super Bowls, one zero Super Bowls, and been to one conference title game. One of these teams is known to every year play its best in the playoffs

and whose quarterback is known as a historic playoff riser, and the other team is known, unfortunately, as quite the opposite. I will then add one other piece as to why I'm already semi-panicked about the Ravens as far as winning a Super Bowl. The Chiefs issues are on offense. Mahomes has the ability to help that. himself. The Ravens issues are on defense. Lamar

is on the bench. Right. And so I would just rather my weakness be where my best player is. And I would add right now through three weeks when I think the competition is actually quite similar. They both lost to two really good teams and both

you know, beaten a really bad team is the way I look at it personally. I think the Ravens defensive issues if we show the numbers are a little deeper. The Chief's offense has been, sorry, Hubs, mid. Yeah. But mid. But it hasn't been awful. It hasn't been the worst than the league. Right. So that, you know what I mean? So it's,

it's bad because Mahomes is on there. You're like, why would you be mid? But the, the Chief's offense thus far this year has been like a C minus. And the Ravens' defense thus far this year has been in that. So for all those reasons, I, I think the Ravens are in, like oddly need this. this game far more than Kansas City. They need it mentally to get over that hump of beating. And beating the Chiefs in general. I said this before last night, if you, like, especially if they had won that game.

I mean, if they had won last night and then you go and lose to Kansas City, you're like, if we can't beat the Chiefs when they look down like this and we're rolling, again, if they had one last night, when are we going to beat them? So they need to beat them for definitely mentally. but for the division. I agree with everything you said about the playoffs. They're both going to be there at the end and contending. But for the division,

the Chiefs going fall into one and three with the way the charges are playing. For sure. I think for them, it would be like, okay, they're probably not winning with division. Right. Whereas if the Ravens fall to one in three, Cincinnati obviously know Joe Burrow,

Cleveland's just bad, and Pittsburgh. Now, the Ravens may have to sweep their division. which will be tough no matter how bad the teams are because it's the AFC North. But I think for the division, the chiefs need it more to try to win their division. But I agree mentally it's more important to the Ravens, even with the chief struggling like they are. I think if what you say is true and it's statistically true that the Ravens defense is getting gashed, I hope that Mahomes is able to do the same thing that Jared got or something similar to what we saw.

I don't think they're going to put up the winner. They're going to put up 22? Because 22 is not going to get done. I mean, look at the, the Cowboys put up 40 on the Giants. And the Giants. That's what I'm saying. We might see it like a. Chiefs put up 22.

Chiefs offense here. It's like, all right. I mean, they. Anepped against the Giants. Anepped against the Ravens. That's the, can they keep up? Well, how will they defend the Ravens? That's the thing is, I don't think Baltimore is scoring 40.

And the, and so, it's so, football. Football so weird is the wrong word. But it felt yesterday like Raven's offense. Let's just take out the garbage time touchdown. You know what I mean? It felt like they were moving the ball. The offense was good. And they had just made a –

the story wasn't that the Ravens offense yesterday was bad. It was that they couldn't get any stops. And they had 24 points. With the game – You know what I mean? With the game – if they had ended on 24 and it's just – the chiefs ended the other game on 22, and the offense felt all.

Yeah. And so it's just the, there's that piece of it. They have first and goal from Detroit's three. Yep. And it came away with zero. And that's something they got to clean up. And the next drive when they had a goal line opportunity, they ended up scoring anyway.

They decided to have Derek Henry throw a pass. It was a weird game. Like that Lamar was mad at Derek Henry. Yeah. Well, I think he's because Lamar was wide. I get, I'm Derek Henry. I'm not calling that. What are you?

I'm not calling that play. I mean, he almost threw a freaking pin. No, but I understand what you're saying. But my only pushback would be, golf was really good when they asked him to be yesterday. The story of that game was the Ravens getting run on, you know what I mean, almost to a historical level. I know the chiefs don't have the ability to do that. Like, that's the concern for Kansas City is right now it looks like the Ravens' run defense is a huge liability. And is that right now do the Chiefs, is the Chiefs running back room the biggest weakness on the team?

Like that part is a concern for that game. To be fair. Coming up next, do the Eagles need to rely more on Jalen Hertz? And we're going to discuss Jackson Dart as the new starter in New York when First things first on Fox Sports One and the Fox Sports Channel series X-M. Welcome back to First things first. Check out our podcast and YouTube channels, which some people are saying are a lot like Mack Jones. underrated and always there when you need a W. No, that's,

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Subscribe to the 50th best sports podcast. You guys. News out of New York. Russell Wilson era is over. The Jackson Dart era underway. Dart will be under center when the Giants take on the chargers. Here's how Russ's moderately short three-game tenure went with the Giants. Washington. All right, hey, first game. Just getting my feet wet. Passer rating of under 60, no touchdowns, no interceptions. Then he got to feast on the Cowboys.

And with a holy cow, almost 500 yards, three touchdowns. Passed rating of 123. Then the Chiefs came to town. No touchdowns. Too bad interceptions. Passed rating at 44. Was this the right time to make this move? also Super Bowl champion great teams is here. I understand like Nick, you said yesterday, you don't want his first game to be against the Chargers, which I do understand. But look, it's the NFL. You're playing good teams.

You're going to face great teams. And even the bad teams are still good. It's the NFL. And that Saints game a week from now or two weeks from now is in New Orleans. This at least is at home. And so I'm, look, I agree. I would have liked to see him play a lesser team.

But I think, Greg, that locker room may have been so. When you saw what Russ did in the last game, particularly that one series where he threw the ball in the tunnel, he hit the goal post, you know, you got a chance to score. I wonder if the spirit was just so broken from what the players were seeing, like on this series in particular, that maybe the team was like, we got to make a change. And right now, even though they're 0 and 3,

I'm sure players may feel like there's still some hope. And maybe if this kid comes in, he looked good in the preseason and can give him a spark that helps. Whereas if you go to Jamis just for a game, James may play well. Then it's three or four games. Who knows? And by the time you get to Jackson Dart, the season is over.

And maybe some of the players have, you know, have mailing it in and you don't get a good look at him. So look, I'm fine with it. Russ definitely needed. to be benched. Look, there's never really a right time to move on. When a player plays this bad, it's telling, though. Like, we had the stats up there. Week one, it is what it is. And this is in relation to what we have seen him become or turn into over the last few years. So if it's not going to look like what we saw a couple weeks ago against Dallas consistently, we're going to

believe this is kind of who you are now. And so naturally you start to see other things that push you and nudge you towards making decisions like this when you see dable and neighbors getting into it on the sideline a few weeks back. Like we didn't see that last year. We didn't see these types of things. When you have other young young quarterbacks having success or growing pains, whatever the case may be, it's, It's a part of the game to your point. And for me, the seat just keeps getting hotter.

The flame keeps getting bigger. For who? For dable? Right. And for everyone involved. And so you made this point. It starts, you almost lower your level of expectation when you say,

you know what? Let's start fresh with this. Yeah. I mean, listen, I think Jackson Dart might end up being good. I don't really, you know, I don't have a hot take on. if Jackson Dart's going to be a good pro or not.

I liked him enough coming out of the draft. I didn't think them spending a late first round pick on him was bad. We'll see. I hate this process. If Jackson Dart is ready to start in week four, he's ready to start in week one. Probably. So I don't like that part of it.

I said yesterday, I didn't like it all that it's very clear. Either Dable or Shane or both of them or people higher than that, of which there's only a few, were very, very open. with Collinsworth and Toriko about how excited they are to bench Russell Wilson and go to Jackson Dart. And I also think, personally,

again, this is just my gut. They are not basing this off for this week. What is the best for Jackson Dart? They're basing it off. This is a home game and we don't want to be booed the whole time. And it is bad for our job security and bad for us to have the

ownership, everyone booing us, and instead people will be excited because the kid is playing. Regardless of the result, people will be excited because Russ's game against the Cowboys gave you enough, for lack of a better term, plausible deniability to start in one more game, and then you have the Saints on the road, less pressure

on the kid, all of it. And that's not what they're doing. And so I think the process has been bad with the Giants and this brain trust from the beginning. I think signing, the quarterback's has been bad. It's just flatly the way they've done it. The flip side, the other side of this conversation is for Russ, in my opinion twofold. One is, if you were the Cincinnati Bengals, would you call the New York Giants with Jake Browning's five interceptions in the last two weeks

and the team at two and one? And if they don't, is Russell Wilson's career over. Those are the, I think those are. If you're the Bengals, would you? I would not, but I have been more down on Russ than most people for four years now. Like I thought he was done his last year in Seattle. That was four teams ago. Yeah, Cincinnati Bengals should not call Russ. Like, they, he almost forced them to make this call because of how bad. Like, there's a difference between, like, not having good games and just not giving your

team a chance to win. When we look at that sequence you're talking about, that goal. sequence, those four consecutive plays, when you're talking about a veteran who has a resume like his, you at least got to give me

some glimmer of hope and to not be able to... Something, something wild. You can't allow it to look like that and then the fans are booing. The players are disgruntled. The locker room the chatter just continues to get

louder and louder and louder and then say, you know what, Let's do it one more time. No, that's fair. And listen, Brew, I feel like he has played for large stretches of since he left Seattle of what I have called a selfish brand of football that I can only attribute to trying to protect his football reference page for an eventual Hall of Fame case. Like it is, and you would like to think that you're not doing that in the final two minutes of a game that, you know, you're down 13, so technically,

a chance, but it's hard. I don't know what else you attribute though that type of misses to. You know, by 50, are they misses or throwaways? You can't throw it away on fourth and goal. No. You know what I mean? You can't throw it. So I don't.

But the ball bounced off the upright. So it's either a throw so bad I bounce it off the upright or it was a decision. So it's either way, it's really bad. Yeah. It's not good. I, you know what, just to put a fine point on it, something I learned from Greg. from my Patriots when we were down the dump. Proper form?

No, that's true too. I was like, I'm like, oh, we were trying to talk about Gerard Mayer. I was like, you guys do anything well? And I was like, no, last year. I do like this because it reminds me of a little bit of what Dan Campbell did with the Lions. Like, we're not even going to have to win games. We have to establish an identity. And it's like, Abdul Carter, the defense hasn't been good, but he's a guy.

scataboo is a guy and has a certain vibe Malik Neighbors is a guy has a certain vibe and Jackson Darts a guy with a certain vibe they all of a sudden feel kind of like a nice Broadway kind of cool young team now is Dayball the coach for that team? I don't know but I understand that team

cool young players with a certain swagger to them that might go you know five and twelve But it's an identity. But it's an identity. It's not just something you can latch on. It's an interesting dinner party, too. Neighbors, Scataboo, Abdul Carter, and Jackson Dart.

I love to be a wild house. I'm into that. Oh, my goodness. They better win some games. They're going to. Reverberates past the sun. Jalen Hertz lit up the Rams and talked to his offensive coordinator during the game. Some people are saying this was a told you so game that resulted in Donovan McNaftan.

McNab saying you need to trust Jalen. Here is the former Eagles QB on WIP. It seems to me like they don't trust Jalen enough, who's your MVP of the Super Bowl, who's taking you to two Super Bowes and also helps you win the game in the second half of a lot of games that he's played in this year. It seems to me like they're not utilizing his ability

to be able to spread the ball around and push the ball downfield. But to me, again, it just doesn't start with your MVP quarterback, and it should. Is it time for the Eagles to lean in more on Jalen Hertz? I think he should throw it a little more. I think he's averaging about 23 passes a game. I say it going in, 28, 29-ish.

That's where I want him. But more than the passes, because look, believe it or not, he's thrown more passes than Lamar Jackson. Lamar's only thrown 75. He's thrown 77. Jordan loves thrown 78. So, you know, he's throwing it a decent amount. But the second half of this game did all that work.

Right. You know what I mean? Like that's what I mean? Yeah. But I'm more concerned about how they're throwing the football because you keep showing these charts where they're throwing all these little dink and dunk passes with him. Throw the ball downfield. If you throw it 25 times a game but there's a significant number or downfield,

I would be happy with that. And look, you also got to look at we got two great wide receipts. receivers who understandably want some touches, you know, want some target. So keep them, and not to mention a tight in and a running back that can catch the ball. And your running back isn't getting a lot of yards right now. So, yeah, they should throw it more, but more importantly, throw it more downfield. Initially, I was with you. I'm like, yeah, they got to lean into Jalen Hertz a lot more.

And then I, I delved a little deeper into who they are and what they've become. This is just, this is their identity. Donovan McNabb was saying, you know, they don't have an identity yet. Well, they do have an identity. It's just not being put on display the way we saw it last year. They want to run the ball. That's who they are. And last year, the first three games, they threw the ball over 30 times.

Yeah, and it didn't. The fourth week they even did, they did that as well. Jalen Hertz had, what was it? I want to say he had three touchdowns for interceptions in those games. And then for nine weeks after the bucks lost, for nine straight weeks, he did not throw the ball attempt. Attempt passes more than 30 in the game. For nine straight weeks, Pittsburgh, Week 17, he does it.

The playoff run, he didn't do it again. Their key to success was not that. Who they want to be, you kind of alluded to it, when you look at their average passes, their average rushes, I got the numbers, we can look at them. This is what they want to be. They want to run the ball and they want to average about 25 passes a game. It has been the key to their success.

It has eliminated the turnovers. And when you look at that nine game stretch, one turnover, one interception. So can I jump in, though, leave those numbers up? So here's the issue, though, the 57 yards a game you're missing. Correct. rushing from last year to this year. Absolutely. Which has then led to, in my opinion, the 40-yard.

per game you're missing in the passing game. But you get like those, they build on each other. So here would be my question that I kind of, I understand that's who they want to be. This dominant, they want to be with what the lions were yesterday. Yeah. You know what I mean? Our quarterback can make the big throws, we need them to, but we're

going to run it down your throat. They haven't been that. They also, in my opinion, have a little margin of error now because they are the defending champs. They do have that pedigree. And much like I have said, I thought the chief in years past would at times use beginning parts of seasons to figure things out and try things

out, so speak, because we know what we're great at, what our bread and butter is. Let's see if we can add more to it. What is the harm in letting Jalen try? Like, okay, last year at the beginning of the year, it didn't work. Maybe you're a better player. Two years ago, to Bruce Point, we let you try more than we do now. You almost won't league MVP, or it's finished top three. AJ wants you to do it.

I think Jaylen's post-game press conference on the field that you pointed out yesterday was an illusion that he kind of would like to do it. Like, and what you're doing right now is working-ish. It's working in that your team has been good enough to win. You had no business being in that giant. You shouldn't have needed two blocked field goals and a shutout in the second half, or most of the second half, to have a chance against the Rams. Like, I just, I would give him a shot at it because maybe Sequin also could use a little breather.

It will open things up for Seaguan. I mean, what do you think about throwing it more downfield, though? Even if you throw it 25 times. That part I'm all for because the style of receivers that they have, that is who they are. Like, Devante Smith, deep, deep threat, A.J. Brown, obviously, deep threat, who can make contested plays as well on the ball. But for me, when I look at this team, like, once you've established the identity of who you are, they are so locked and loaded on this is what we do. We don't deviate.

We don't, we're unwilling to deviate unless we absolutely have to and we need to and we know we can go to it. I think what we're all saying is kind of like you were just saying with the chiefs because you feel like a lot of people feel like Jalen Hertz has earned the right. to say, here, man, here's a piece of the car. And it might open things up for say, here's a key to the car. If something were to happen, I trust and know you're gonna come back and let us know why that happened.

It won't probably happen again. I don't believe that you make that mistake. And if you do, man, it's okay. You're Jalen Hertz. You're still our guy. I'm gonna have a lot to ask you in much about. Can Brock Purdy carry the 49ers? Or is it Mac Jones's job.

Boses out. We discussed. A touch on this story from San Francisco yesterday. Bosa out and done for the year. 49ers already missing. Iute Kittle, Jumont, Jennings, and Purdy. We'll see if Purdy can come back. Here's Kyle Shanahan.

You don't just replace a guy like Nick. I mean, it just puts, you know, everyone's got to continue to get better at everything. Just like, same thing I'd be preaching if we did have Nick, too. You know, when you lose your better players, it gets harder. But I also expect throughout this year, expect all of our players to get better. better as it goes. And that's stressed even that much more when you lose a great one like Nick. Brew, can your 49ers overcome yet another injury?

They can overcome it to make the playoffs. They're not a contender. Like Super Bowl contender, they're not on the level of the Green Bayes, the Philadelphia's, the Detroit's. Those three teams, Tampa Bay, and if the Rams win the West, that leaves two spots open. I do think the Niners could make the playoffs. Ayuk's coming back, Kittles coming back, Purdy will be back. And Robert Sol has done a really good job with that defense. So far, their top five defense in the league.

Now, obviously, that'll drop without Bosa, but he's done some things that might be able to, they might be able to continue without Bosa. So I think they still have a shot at making a playoffs. No. It's the one thing that this team typically is never able to overcome, and that's significant injuries at significant plays. positions and they more than anyone else seem to have this happen to them more than

anybody else. Yeah. It's them in the Chargers. Really, it's just like consistently all. You lose a guy like Bosa and it's just a domino effect because now you don't have to, if you're an opposing team, you don't have to assign two guys to one. It's the reverse Micah Parsons. Absolutely.

And so it just makes it that much more challenging. You're not going to, you feel like Robert Sala can over. overcome it, but when you start to lose the quality in your personnel, I don't care how great you are. There's no plays to dial up. Okay, this is going to work. I just need, oh, a difference maker. I don't have that anymore.

He's the lunch pen of the defense. I'm not being a smart look when I say this. The only way they can overcome it is if when Purdy comes back, he's actually the best he's ever been. You know what I mean? They would need Purdy to level up from even where his biggest supporters think he is. I mean and like really carry a team. And I don't think that's fair to ask of him.

I also think we're talking about their injuries. I hope I'm wrong on this. But you guys know who leads the NFL by more than 10% over second place and touches this year? It's Christian McCaffrey. I don't love that. KW. McCaffrey is eighth in the league in carries and third in the league in catches. Like, no, he has 70.

He has 70. seven touches. Nobody else has more than 70. That to me feels like, yeah, you're going to right around the time we get Ayyuk back, like, are we going to potentially be without CMC for a bit? Again, it feels a weird thing to say, but it's just his injury history, his age at this point, and that level of workload is concerning. And I do think that you can, with a great coordinator, do more with less as long as you have your linchpins. You know what I mean?

Of course. And so you can pivot your defense off what Fred Warner does in the middle of field and the attention Bosa draws as a pass rusher. Losing either one of those guys, it just has a knockdown effect that even though they're 3 and 0, man, I could see them being at the midway point four and four, even with Purdy coming back.

They got a few tough games coming. We know they're scheduling that tough, But they have the bucks and the Rams, I think. And I think, do they play Houston? Yeah, well, I don't know if Houston's a tough game or not. But the next three to me are tough. And Jacksonville's defense is good. Their offense has not been good.

The Rams are good and the bucks are good. And the Falcons are, you know, I mean, I know they got last the defense of the defense. Yeah, it's just tough spot, man. What up, KW? I think it'll be. Where are you? So, okay, you agree with me.

could make the playoffs. Probably. You scoffed when I said they're not a contender. You still think they're a contender. Let me get in the playoffs. See what happened. Wild's just focus on that. Max got like a week or two left.

Robert Sal, I like coordinators. I like good coordinators and a strong quarterback. That's true too, but you need players. Live from New York, the show's starting to worry about Travis Hunter a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Hit the worry me.

Worries a little strong. Worry? I'm worried it's going to rain. It's not like a, Your what issue? What word did you say? Worried? Oh, okay.

That's not how you said, wary. You said the way you said it before was like you had an accent I never heard before. Worried? Yeah, that's right. What do I say? Wary. Wary. Warried.

Warried. Yeah, you're worried. Yeah, it was like, that must be the Connecticut coming out. Maybe. Second hour, first and first. Today, is it panic time? Yes. For Brew and his Baltimore ratings.

That could have been a, that could have been a scoop score. He was. Chill it. Real bad. So relaxed. Meanwhile, Packers, Cowboys in Dallas, Micah, coming back home. I have a great take on this. Great.

I love this story. I love all tribute video stories, statutes stories. Did you get one great? Should you return? You didn't get one at Lambo? No. Do they have a scoreboard up there? How soon do you go back?

Right away? The next season. Did they play your, yeah, he was living in Minnesota. Did they at least like, like, hold, like Greg Jennings night at that bowling alley everyone likes? We're headed to the mountain. Week three is in the books, and there are changes afoot on the mountain.

The mighty Rams fell to the Eagles, and Matthew Stafford lost to Jalen Hertz for the fourth straight time. Also today, huge news out of New York. The Giants have made a move at quarterback. Russ is out, Jackson Dart is in. And then there's Chicago where Caleb Williams threw four touchdowns against Dack Prescott and the mighty cowboys. Who's rising? Who's falling and who will be atop of Mahomes Mountain? Well done.

I got to tell. Not just doing chores out here. In my opinion, that is if we're going to use AI the right way to use it. What about chores? No, no, that's robots. That's not AI. But what I mean is we're not trying to trick people into thinking like that any of that was real. And so you are your, it's you're doing your piece and then it's supplemented.

I like that a lot. Companionhip for the elderly. Lonesomeness is an epidemic. That's good for your podcast. It is. Lonelyness. Yeah, put that on the pod. Maybe it'll get more than 8,400 views this week.

All right. Time now. Low blow. For the mountain. Again, this was a week. We try not to have vacant. season September. It seems too mean. We could have had some. There are some of these guys that are on the mountain that didn't necessarily deserve to be on the mountain. Off the mountain we showed to you

before he even got benched, we had taken Russ off the mountain and now Russ is not even going to be allowed at base camp anymore after this week. Spencer Rattler problem. Jake Browning, five picks and seven quarters problem. Michael Pennix. Going on here. Wow. Michael Pennix. Whoa. Very lucky. People don't really care about the Falcons. Otherwise, we'd be focused on you as a top 10 big buddy. Because it is, I don't, I think he's yet to have a win a game where the other team scored more than seven points.

I think that's true. Fact check me on that, Josh. It might be 10. Josh is from Atlanta. Like, sadly. Josh is like, I know this to be true. You guys could have some of these guys on row seven might deserve to be down there with you, but again, didn't want vacancies. row seven, Spider-Man Mean, Bo Nix, Mac Jones looking at each other like,

somebody say I was you, you or me? I'm telling you, it's going to be a classic one of all classic ones that Bo Nix is Mac Jones. Just wait for it. But hey. That needs it's a classic too. You're right. I said it wrong. Thank you.

Shout out to Mac Jones, KW. Staying on the mountain. Justin Fields didn't even play. Saved his spot on the mountain. Joe Flacco, whatever. Carson Wentz. It's actually good analysis. You move up.

Now, this is how bad the, this is what I'm talking about. Two of them moved back onto the mountain with that performance. Because he was good for three quarters. Up with Bryce. And Bryce moved back on the mountain. You're going to be like, oh, he should have moved higher? They won 30-0. A guy at 140 yards.

He was an ultimate Bryce Young game once again. His operation was great. His operation was not great. Ran a little bit. Again, this is the saddest seventh row we've had in a long time. Sixth row. Man. I don't know where CJ Stroud is right now on the sumo wrestler or life coach mountain,

but on the quarterbacking mountain, he's a sixth row guy. He's tighten it up, CJ. I know you're talking about everybody's going to be talking crazy. Not talking crazy. This is literally looking at USA Today's standings and points score. It's not good. Aaron Rogers, Drake May. I actually thought, KW, you were there.

I thought Drake outplayed Aaron, but made a couple awful mistakes. Yep. And, you know, Aaron was just, I also, I don't know how much we're going to talk about it, might be featured in Nick's picks at the end of the week. Aaron Rogers should consider calling the State Department and seeing if they will avoid his passport. So we can avoid going overseas and having to deal with that Brian Flores defense. Because those blitzes with Rogers as immobile as he is, that could be a brutal early morning game on Sunday. Trevor, you're my guy.

I love you. your team's two and one. I'd love to be like, he's the reason why. He is not the reason why. It has not been good. Kyler again. It's just the, and then Cam Ward moved up just because he,

we didn't show it. He did the crazy pass again. This time he didn't get caught, but it almost did. Maybe the guy says strongest arm ever. All right. These top 15 quarterbacks are doing the work for the league because row six and seven,

not inspiring. Jordan Love, we have to drop you. Caleb, move you up deservedly. Is this Caleb's highest spot since he was at USC? We'll have to check the archivist, but I think it might be. Sam Darnold, really good game. He almost got moved up.

Jaden missed the week. He stays where he is. Gino, bro, three touchdowns, despite the fact they can't block. Gino had a solid bounce back game after a really rough Thursday night game. We all right. Rope four. Everybody's All-American, that Stafford Druffs.

Makes me sad, but fair is fair. Thank you. Doing nothing. What did you say? How was his second half? Nothing. That's why he dropped. Nothing.

He dropped. I'm with you, Wiles. Wiles doesn't like him on that side of the mountain. Again, it's not left to right. Everybody knows that. Jared Gough and Dak Prescott stay where they are. And let's take a moment. Because fourth row means you're in the top 10.

He's never been this high. Never. Not even in Duke when we did college. The fourth row means. You are in the top 10. Unbelievable. As high as seventh in theory, because it's not left to right. It's 7, 8, 9, or 10.

It could be 7. Wow. Craig Jennings. Now, this would be an all-time classic two. If Daniel Jones just has a Baker Mayfield. That's a other three weeks. All right. And now the cream of the crop in the league.

Third row, bake show stays where he is. Another heart-stopping victory. Much to the dismay of, Danny Parkins, who I'm sure would like this to be renamed Herbert's Hill and have him at the top. Herbert stays where he is. Jalen Hertz, KW. Farr is fair. Moves up.

He moved down last week because he hadn't done anything throwing the football. He moves up this week because the Eagles are like, break glass in case of emergency. Let the Super Bowl MVP throw a few passes and they end up winning the game because of me. I don't know if this is controversial or not. I don't think it should be. But for the third time in three weeks, we will have a chance. different person atop Mahomes Mountain. Patrick stays where he is. He also is as far as quarterback rushing Mountain number one in the league and quarterback force fumble mountain number one in the league.

But passing numbers haven't quite been there. So he's second row guy. Lamar drops not because listen, I don't think Lamar played poorly yesterday, obviously. I also don't think he played quite as well as the raw numbers suggest because those sacks to me, some of those were on him and there were drive killers. But it's more because Josh Allen, is just doing everything everyone has always asked him to do. He is atop the mountain. He has cut out the turnovers entirely. And while I, listen, his 220 yard think and dunk game on Thursday,

it wasn't enough for me personally to say he's the most talented quarterback in the history of the league. It is enough for me to say he is right now playing the position just the way his team needs them to. When he needs a big game, he can give it to you, when he just needs to control the offense, he can. He is atop the mountain. for week four, Greg Jenner. Great Mountain.

It is a pretty good mountain, man. I'm excited about this mountain. Good. Come here, man. Oh, we're hugging? Okay. What a moment. It was really hurt by the Daniel Jones thing.

I know. This was amazing because I've been waiting for this moment and is here. I'm not going to even move them up the mountain. Just talk about them. I'm just going to talk about him. Because I've been trying to talk about it and nobody would listen. We've been in a relationship and nobody cared. Just take a listen.

Just please. Do you believe that Daniel Jones is a top 10 quarterback? Of course. No need to speculate. You're going to hear me say it again. Of course. And again, of course. He is a top 10 quarterback.

In the NFC? In the NFL. I still believe that he's a very top. talented quarterback. I think he can get some things done in this league. I just think he needs to find a situation that he can learn how to play quarterback behind someone in a system where he he's able to grow. That's perfect take right there. And today, we get to witness all of what I've been trying to say. And the reason why is because Daniel Jones, not only are you convincing the world, but I finally got them to listen. And it's all

because you're in the right position. You finally, for the first time in your career, and I've said this, I tried to get him to understand it. And Nick finally has, he recognized it for the first time in your career at one point, collectively, collectively, you have a stable offensive line, top five running back weapons i'm talking about a bona fide number one a bona fide number two a great tight in and you have a play caller that puts you in great situations in shane steichen you've been awesome not turning the ball over you are well deserving of top ten i don't want to interrupt you but we got news from our bosses that's enough damn joe i'm sorry but that's the show is just just Just one last.

Doing really well without a lot of things. Just okay. Just take a look at his numbers. Oh, cool. Okay, they're going to send us to commercial. I know we got to go, guys, but this is a moment. Move the needle outside of Jennings. This is great.

I also must say this is why Greg Jennings gets to act in things as someone other than Greg Jennings. That's exactly right. I mean, Brew, I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to. I'm going to give you a compliment, Greg. You are the second best actor That wasn't bad For one receiver to another

And one actor to another Yeah, all right, brew, go ahead All right, that was just praising the mountain It is not, it is a pretty good mountain. I give you that. It's a pretty good mountain this week. Thanks. But there's one thing that must change.

Switch J-Lo and DAC. All right, everybody is in the in love with DAC this season. Let me see the numbers. The numbers aren't. Can I see the numbers? I test. Look at J-Lo.

The passer rating is far beyond Dax. Five touchdowns, one pick, DAC three and three. Yards per pass, which I know Nick loves, weighing in Jordan Love's favor. The yards per game, I mean, yeah, that's boosted because Dak got to face two teams that are QB's dream.

Dreams, dreams, the bears and the giants. All right, meanwhile, J-Lo has faced two Super Bowl contenders, we think, if Washington is that, all right? And so, and his numbers are still way better. I get it J-Lo through the bad pick last game. Dax thrown three interceptions in the last two weeks. All right, but Jordan Love in the two games, the victory over Detroit and Washington, he was butter.

He was great. So J-Lo has one bad pick, and now he's moving down to Mountain? Lost the game. Dak hadn't done any of that? So, listen. Just, I mean. Brew, you're right that it's based off the one bad pick. I also oddly think it's the worst pick in the NFL this season.

This season? Yeah, as far as what it, as far as like it's swinging a game. Oh, probably. One direction or another. Yes. I'm not saying it was the worst throw. But I'm saying it's a game you had no business losing that you were going to win if you just ate those. They needed that loss.

It was just what the doctor. They didn't need the loss. They did. Or a lineman this today, an offensive lineman would have been running off at the mouth talking about we're going undefeated. After the game, Micah said all great Super Bowl teams losing it was. That's what happened. Two weeks ago. Yeah.

And he's also without Jaden Reed and Christian Watson. I don't know. So, I mean. I just, I can't do it. A certain point. Does he have a number one? I'm waiting for Matthew Golden, but so. Well, why isn't Jordan Love make Matthew Golden,

the first round draft pick is number one? They're two and one and a contender on everybody's list. Is he is, but he got down. Back is about to go to the lottery. You know what I mean. NBA, but you know what I mean. Go ahead, Kato. I would like to move Jane.

Hurts to the left of Baker Mayfield. It's not left to right. See, Wilde is with me. We know. I don't know. I just want it. Aesthetically, I want him over there. Why?

If it's not left to right, why can't I put him over there? Because that row is an alphabetical. If it's not left to right, what's the issue? That rows alphabetical. Why is the third row alphabetical? Top three rows. And why is it, is it, does it have Baker's? Have Baker's first name?

No, they're not. What do you mean Baker, Robert Hertz? Why is it in Mayfield? It all comes before M. L-M-O-PETO-P. Everybody knows that. You exposed them while. Quickly.

I'm just going to run through some stuff as we have more topics in the show, what should Jalen Hertz do differently? Every other topic we usually do on the show. I'll let you in behind the curtain how to editorial works on a TV show. I can't wait for this. A lot of times you have a,

question where something's going wrong and you should switch it out you know like should Russ be bench they haven't won any games so yeah that makes sense good should the titans fire callahan so they went now should Jalen Hertz do anything different why well let's look at how he's been doing since last year's loss to the bucks well he's 17 and no so maybe he should do do something different but that's just like tall tell like a fashion model with like a a great suit on Like, do you want to wear a different suit? Like, I don't know. Everything looks good.

Everything works. Well, Wads, a lot of times they're winning. Remember I had that stat? Like, they're always winning. It's everybody else. Can he come back like he just did against the Rams? Well, how's he doing that? Hertz win trailing.

This is his whole career. Remember, it's a rich tapestry. It's not just like prisoner. It's almost his whole career. It's almost his whole career. Thank you. Who's number one in there? Mahomes?

I would imagine. Probably. Somebody else is number two on some of this stuff. Someone's one, two, three, four, and five. Either way, Jayle-Hurts is still good. And then how is this, we're getting into some rare air here. You know what I mean? Some rare air.

Longest win streaks. Now, Josh had to put this. With five or more placidates. But he had to take out the concussion game. You had to take out the commander's game. Oh, you're so you're, okay, so this is, I get what you're saying, but this is not an actual record. It's not an actual record because you're taking out the game. It's kind of unfair.

That's fair. I actually have no problem. So it's a little bit of a carve out. Yeah. But it's. That's good. Legends, also Jim McMahon. Legends and Jim McMahon.

Oh, Jim McMahon, who is kind of known for playing on a team with an all-time running back in a great defense. They didn't want to let him throw the ball? How about Aaron Rodgers is four-time? How about four-time? I'm just saying, I may want to throw that one out. Okay, take out. Josh, can we redo the numbers to take out Jim McMahon somehow?

So it's just Brady, Aaron Rogers, Joe Montana, and Jail and Herty. Just do the last 40 years or something. No, the merger was 1970. Since another merger, since the team's realigned the Colts moving around. Salary cap era. That's a good one. There you go. I got you, Josh.

High death era. All right. Here's the thing, KW. What you said at the very beginning was interesting. Normally, our topics are, something is wrong. How do we fix it? Yes.

Heavy is the head that wears the crown, my friend. For what? How many topics did we do last year about, last year's defending Super Bowl champions. Oh. That were, you didn't have to add any remove this weird game that were on a, by week nine last year, like a 16 game winning streak of their own. Yeah, that's a good point.

That was undefeated, that was winning, and it was like, yeah, but it feels like something's a little off. That's like that is when you are the champ and you are winning, but not blowing people out people picket you. Like five nothing. Like soccer. See, this is one of the This is the world.

This is two nothing. Exactly. And you have put found yourself in a bit of a bind because you led that charge. And now you don't like it when it's going the other direction. It's the exact same thing. You guys, you won, but you did it with a blocked kick. Does that even really count? Soccer scores though.

That's what I'm saying. But it, hold on. But it first of all, it wasn't. Second of all, it was literally, it was, they won a game with a blocked kick and people were like, that's fluky, that can't happen again. You guys just did it. Three one. They're like, was they playing Portugal? Three one.

Portugal? How did they even do that? How did they get one? Coming up next, we're talking about a new era in New York and are the Ravens actually just falling apart? No, that's a new one. They fall on the bar? Same record as the bronze. And

Hey, start your Saturday strong, number 21 USC. Taking on number 23 Illinois. Ooh, that Illinois Indiana game. Watch out. Illinois looking for a deal. I'm looking for a bounce back. All goes down live from Champagne, big noon kickoff, 10 a.m. Eastern.

Then it's Trojans Eli. On Fox. That's going to be a good thing. That one is going to do a zero. You got to go hang out with hubs and the bad joke. Ravens rolled, moved to one and two. Lamar had three touchdowns, but it wasn't enough since Baltimore allowed almost 225 yards on the ground. Here's John Harbaugh.

We've got to go to work on the things we need to get better at and get ready to play Kansas City. You know, we got Kansas City, then we've got a tough team, then we've got a tough team coming out. So the next tough team is Kansas City. We just played a tough team. It's a good football team. played, okay? So we go to work on the next tough team we're going to play, try to find a way to get that win. And that's what we're going to do. We're going to keep it simple. Block in on that and go to work. Ravens in trouble, brew? Not trouble. I mean, they still should win their

division, even if they lose to the Chiefs, which we talked about. But it's about Super, it's S Bob. Are they in S Bob trouble? This is what, I mean, obviously the defense is atrocious, and they have got to improve that. And they will. like they did last year, but they were pushed around last night, which you generally don't see with them. Now, I know they're missing some players, so hopefully that will straighten it out. But the thing, too, is that it just always feels like it's something with the Ravens. You know, it's them with their self-inflicted wounds.

It's some of their best players, Lamar with the fumble last year in the playoffs, Derek Henry with the fumble against Buffalo, Mark Andrews dropping the pass, giving up fourth quarter leads. then the defense last night, defense against Buffalo too. Like, it just seems like if it's, if one area is fixed,

then something else goes wrong against the elite teams. Now, they're an elite team, but I'm talking about winning the Super Bowl. I'm not talking about making the playoffs, winning the AFC North, you know, going to winning a playoff game or two.

I'm talking about winning the Super Bowl. And that's why Nick, I do like them playing the Chiefs now. And I get it. They're obviously, not feeling good about themselves. But this is what the doctor ordered for them. I know I use that a lot, but it is.

Like, if they can beat the chiefs, to me, that kind of erases. You'd love to have these wins back, right? Because their losses in your column. But that erases Buffalo. It kind of erases last night. And that would mentally kind of get them right. I agree with that. Now, if they lose, it's a different story.

But it would be a huge win, and that's what they need right now. Yeah, they're in trouble. I don't think in trouble of making the playoffs or anything like that, but they're in trouble in the immediate time we're in right now because they're playing the Chiefs and they just don't beat the Chiefs. I think Lamar is one in five against the Chiefs. So when you look at that, I know we talked about this yesterday, the AFC. People were more worried about the Chiefs against Russell Wilson and the Giants

than they are right now against the Ravens. Yeah, no, that's why I'm saying they're in trouble. Yeah. Like, I don't care who. But they don't get over that. I'm sitting, like, they're supposed to win a Super Bowl. They need to be able to beat the Chiefs. So this is why I'm saying they're in immediate trouble,

because when you're having all those issues that you just alluded to, on top of going up against the Chiefs, and you believe that this is what the doctor ordered, maybe it is. But they already have a psychological advantage over you. Yeah, they do. And you're going in there. Derek Henry, have we ever seen Derek Henry throw a tantrum like that?

Yeah, play the video. Like, have we ever seen that? He's stoic even if he gives it up. When you are a player of this caliber and you make a mistake, it's like all you have to say to your teammates and look them in the eyes, my bad, I got the neck.

You don't do that. And it's slamming the helmet, and again, maybe this is. It wasn't even the slamming the help. It's that for me. It's the like, so this is like a weird Kelsey distinction. Kelsey has looked out, to your point, out of sorts or unhinged or furious. He is the only time any of the chiefs have looked like that was late, third, early fourth quarter Super Bowl. And then they turned it around.

But you know what I mean? It's like the difference between anger and like almost. But this is the Bill's game hangover. This is an emotional. No, he had made a big deal out of fumbling the last two games. Like he really made going into this game. He did fumble in the Brown's game. So I think that's what he's like three straight games.

The message that this sends, I want you to watch the teammate that's in the frame when he hits the bench. Like he's looking like, man, Derek doing that? Like, are we really? Watch the guy in the front. Look, turn around. I don't know who that is. It might be Mark Andrews. Like, really?

You can't being that type of player do that. I don't care. If Lamar did that, if any player. So that's the thing. So this is why this game was weird to me, Greg. That's interesting, Greg. Is the Lamar wasn't doing that. He was showing something.

Lamar was from the first possession. About the play calling. Yes, about the play calling and about he just seemed, they seemed out of sorts yesterday. And this is where, this is where I do think they are in trouble is twofold KW. First one is this, right or wrong. If the chiefs lose next. week, they are still going to feel like, man, we get in this tournament.

No one on it. No one in the AFC wants to play. And no one in the AFC has ever beaten us. Well, you know what I mean? Like we are the, the chiefs have championship pedigree, the definition of them. And not only do the Ravens not have it. And this is why I think they're in trouble. And I get called a Lamar hater.

I don't think that's fair. skeptic that is fair. We have no evidence that this is a championship caliber team except for weird stats. It's like, hey, DVOA says it's one of the greatest teams ever. The first team ever to score 100 points in three weeks and not have a winning record. We have reams of actual evidence that for some reason this Uber talented team is not as good as a bunch of

other teams at actually winning football games. So like the bills have... Playoff. Well, now it's been regular season this year. And last year they started only two. They had the best record of football two. They've blown out a lot of great teams.

Correct. And that's one thing I will say quickly. They should know. And I agree, they're a little mentally shaky. But they should know how much it can turn around.

Like last year, remember, I jumped on it all the time. They beat Buffalo by 25 points in the regular season. Then get beat in the playoffs. That should be something they're telling themselves to me. It can turn around.

And so I just... Sorry to interrupt. I didn't mean interrupt you. I just... No, no, go ahead. The idea the Ravens are are walking a fine line of being closer to the idea of being a championship contender than

an actual championship contender. And I know that's people, like, this is what the distinction I draw between the Bills and the Ravens is people, a lot of people, I go on, you know, podcasts and stuff and talk about and they're like, listen, for the Ravens and the Bills, it's the story, it's a story of Patrick Mahomes greatness, not of their own failings. And my answer to that has always been, that is the story for the Bills. bills four times have had their season ended by Patrick during this era. The Ravens, it's been won.

It's not that they haven't been able to get over one of the greatest players of all time. They've only even been able to get to him one time. It has been other things that have stood in their way that have prevented them from, you know, whether it is blowing those two or the week two game last year, that's one of the reasons they didn't, you know, they didn't have a higher seed or even a two seed to where that game in Buffalo was in Baltimore. It's things like this, and then now you add to it. Because I look at the Ravens with that as a given.

Like, I think they are a little mentally shaky and they're not a great big game team. You add to it an actual football defect right now, which is an awful defense. And that's concerning. You know what I mean? Like the, we have, when I've compared Lamar to Peyton, I've made the point, Lamar maybe could never get over his full playoff stuff and still win a championship. Because Payton the year he won it, had three touchdowns seven picks in the playoffs, but he was just there enough and the defense was good enough.

This sure doesn't look like a defense that's going to be like, hey, Lamar, we got you. And so that, I am concerned about them. First thing first bowl, Ravens versus the Chiefs this weekend. The other big game, Micah's return to Dallas. Jerry Jones was asked if Micah is going to receive a tribute video. Here's what he said via John Machota. I don't think that's appropriate. Emmett coming back was a different story.

And that's not to diminish Micah. I think Micah's got enough welcome out there. We just need to show we've got antidotes for that. Nick, you said you had a great take on that. Yeah, I just think it's so obviously we don't need to compare Micah's tenure with the Cowboys to Emmett Smith. Like, you know what I mean? And I thought Troy did a great job last night mixing in there.

Hey, Derek Henry is almost that. Half of Emmett Smith's career carries, which was such a banana's fact and number. I think this is Jerry Jones being wildly self-conscious and self-centered. If we know anything about Jerry Brew, he loves a show. He loves an event. He loves a spectacle. even if it potentially undercuts his team's chances of winning. Like he wants the show.

So why would he not have a show when people would kind of expect it, an event, a moment? Because he's embarrassed. Because he tried to sell a bill of goods of, we'll be better without him. It's a good move. And he was the point person at trading this player away. And seeing Micah Parsons get a standing ovation. in Jerry World would be embarrassing for him. And that is why I think this is a Jerry Jones 100% decision.

And I think it's about Jerry Jones protecting himself from embarrassment. That is why Micah is not getting a video. I think that's a great point in knowing Jerry, you know, as we know him, that's probably true. But I feel like it's too soon for Micah to get the tribute video. too soon since he's been gone. And obviously it wasn't under great terms that he left. He was only there four years. Like, Ezekiel Elliott got one, but he was there seven years.

So I just feel like, I mean, and it's not about rings, because obviously, Zique didn't get one. Right. But you were only there four years. You moved on or, you know, we traded you. It was ugly at the end. They're going through some tough times right now and clearly miss him. So I think all those are factors.

I just, I'm kind of torn on it, but I feel like it's so soon after the trade and, and you're struggling that way you are, that I'm kind of okay with this. Nah. He should get one, but he's not because of Jerry. It's what you said, Nick. But then I think about this doesn't happen to guys as often as we think it should. Like when guys are at a place and then they go back, I was in Green Bay. for seven years, won a Super Bowl, all the things.

I didn't get a tribute video. Neither did I expect a tribute video. And so I don't even think it's Micah that would expect something like this. The response that Jerry gave, I thought that was telling. When he says it's not what... He said, I don't think it's appropriate. Yeah, I don't think it's appropriate. And why wouldn't it be appropriate?

because it is appropriate to do that for a caliber player such as Micah, regardless of how short or long the tenure was when he was as impactful and as meaningful of a player and as a beloved in your fan base and as effective on the field as far as in terms of production, it's definitely something that is appropriate. You just don't want to do it. That's really what it is. You just don't want to do it because of,

I don't know if it's embarrassment, but it's just, no, I'm not doing it for Micah. He's a, Jerry is a grudge holder. Like, let's just call it what it is. I think that's correct. Do you think Jerry, I do, excuse me, do you think Micah would play better with or without a tribute video? Without. Without, I do too. I agree with that.

I would do the tribute video as saccharin as possible. Well, yeah, like the Luca one? Yes. Like the, and that wasn't saccharine, but it really made him emotion. And he didn't have. have a huge game. We thought that was going to be a Luca hair on fire. You tap into a level of emotions that you don't really want as a player.

He clearly wanted to stay in Dallas. Yes. I would like, you know what? This is going to be bad, but we're going to take it on a jint, do a nice video with the whatever pick, the Dallas Cowboys select Micah Parsons, everyone's happy, standing ovation. Mike is like, what am I getting emotional right now? I got to go sack the quarterback. Have the big crescendo be Jerry saying, don't lose any sleep over us trading Mike

of Parsons. That was a great take, Wiles. Wow. That was actually better than Nix's. The one that Nick hyped up. I didn't. I shouldn't have set you up like that. Yeah, he shouldn't have.

I was just trying to help your tease. It was good. An hour ago. Did the Lions put the league on notice? Greg Jennings said he has a take of the year on this. Hey, tomorrow it's the greatest segment in all of sports, the committee meeting deep into the night. What's the committee watching on on shows? Do you guys have a little warm-up watch?

What do you mean watching on shows? Watch it on shows like a swing. No, we're meeting. We're working, bro. I thought you had a little bit of a watching on a show. Watch. We got to get to Bruce MVP. Chargers right tackle, Trey Pipkins said his quarterback is quote, unbelievable.

And if that's not the MVP, well, I don't know who is. Well, Trey, good news. We have a segment called Bruce Ballot, where we figure out who is the MVP right now with a This is our second or third installment, bro? Third installment so we can see some moving up. What do you have at five? At number five, Jalen Hertz. Last week it was not ranked.

Phenomenal half. It would have been a great game. Three touchdowns passing, one running in the first half. So four touchdown game, huge win for them over the Rams. Could have implications with seeding and things like that. So Jalen Hertz, just the straight up winner. He's at number five. Number four, Greg.

Shout out to Greg. Jenny. Wow. Danny Dimes, Indiana Jones, whatever you want to call him. I mean, look, he is the first player in the Super Bowl era to have start the season with three touchdowns passing, three touchdowns rushing, and zero turnovers. Wow. I mean, they're the third highest scoring team in the league. And he is orchestrating the show.

Only three touchdowns, as I said. but he's run the ball and he's just orchestrating the ship. Almost throwing for 300 yards a game too, like 272. All right, at number three, Nick's guy, Baker Mayfield. The numbers don't jump out at you, although he does have the six touchdowns, zero interceptions. Remember last year he led the league at interceptions. So he's corrected that.

But yeah, Ben Clutch, three game winning drives in the first three games. Number two, Josh Allen. Oh. Because they have such a weak schedule and thereby, not the huge games of the week, even though they'll be on national TV and stuff. It's like he almost could fly under the radar, but he was great last week with the three.

Well, the media won't let Josh fly under the radar. He's the little talented player to ever play the position. No one's ever played it better. Yeah, I feel like people forget, you know, because some of these games aren't huge. At number one, no surprise. There's a little bit of surprise. Really?

So who, I want to hear about job. Really? That, that, that, that has he threw? I'm saying he had one touchdown. That's all. It was a. the game tying pass, but he threw for almost

300. He did throw for 300. Yeah, I mean, it was a tough game. That's a good pass. I didn't. I had forgotten that he was number one last week. So last, so who, so Lamar and Jaylor fell off. Because Jaylor was fifth and Lamar was second.

And again, Lamar's just, his numbers are great, but the record, I mean, they're one and two. The, I like it. I'm trying to think there's somebody that I would have had in there, but I thought you were going to make it. You love Baker. I love it. I don't like it, bro.

I love it. First thing first overtime. Come on at five, it's going to be excellent, I promise. Live from New York, it's a show that's still whining about the tush bush. That's just not true. I'm not even talking about us. You don't know what I'm talking about. You said it's the show then.

Oh, it is implied. Yeah. I just meant, like, other people online or something. No, I'm going to tell the audience what actually happened. Kevin Wilde's because he's old is like, hey, guys, there was an interesting stat I saw on TV last night. I took a picture of the screen with my phone. So he was scrolling through that. And then me, because I'm also old, I was like, I did something similar and read him a stat about the tush push.

That's it. And then we talked to how Florio called the Eagles, the early birds, even though it is trademark. That's it. You use my trademark guy? What? I did. He's great. I did.

He's absolutely. He's worth his weight in gold. trademark. Today, he did that for me. He did that for me. It's valuable. Russ bench. Sometimes you're actually funny, buddy.

Was this the right move by the Giants? And are we going to talk a little bit of Hall of Fane? Did Russ play himself out of Canton? Meanwhile, Danny's top 10 teams, how far have the Chiefs climbed after beating a team that literally had to just bench their quarterback there so bad? Or they forced him to the bench. Or they forced a fringe Hall of Famer out of the league. That's another way to look at.

I don't write the scripts. You do. But right now, Ravens get run on and run over. Lamar had three touchdown, not enough. Here he was after the game. I feel like week one was a wake-up call. You know, not just this loss. Week one was a wake-up call.

Last week was a wake-up call, you know, because we started off slow last week. And, you know, we got beat tonight. The Lions had, they had a great game plan. I feel like office and defense for those guys. So it's great. We just got to find a way to win. Okay, several wake-up calls there, Brew.

Is it panic time in Baltimore? I'll say on that, Lamar does, and he did seem throughout the game, frustrated. He sounds frustrated, which I kind of like. Yeah, it's a freaking wake-up call, but all these other things have been, too. I'm not panicked. Obviously, if they beat the Chiefs, I feel like, okay, everything is right in Ravens world. I'm sure they'll feel the same way. But there's a lot.

I won't even panic, Danny, if they lose to the Chiefs. Because their division, Cincinnati, no Joe Burrow, obviously Cleveland's not good. Pittsburgh's not really that good. They should win the division getting the playoffs. But for them, it's S-Bob, of course. And I'm not panicked about that, but that defense is not a AFC championship caliber defense. Last year, they improved greatly on the second half of the second half of the team. the season. I thought they were going to come in this year and pick up where they left off

last year defensively and be great. But they got a lot of work to do there. And what was alarming yesterday was the way they just were pushed around. Would you rarely see the Ravens? They're one the toughest teams in the league. You rarely see them pushed around. They couldn't run the ball. They couldn't stop the run. And that was alarming. Some people said they looked like break dancers. I mean, I wouldn't have done it. But I heard some people said they look. I'm counting on the Ravens seeing that. And going into Kansas City and making amends for that. No, I'm not panicked, but there's a lot to be concerned about.

There's no question. Yeah, I wouldn't panic. We're pretty much aligned there because they've won double-digit games, what, six of the last seven years, they're going to win the division. It feels like the floor here is the three-seat in the AFC, and then we will just talk about them as like, okay, let's see if they can do it in January. To your point about the defense, though, what I would be fearing if I'm a Ravens fan is that last year was the best shot, where like the stars all aligned and the defense and the offense were both elite. Because you're right, the defense at the beginning of last year, and we can show it because it was awful.

It was also stark. Like in terms of it went from awful to the literal best in the league. And now it's back to being awful again. And last year the explanation was, well, they moved Kyle Hamilton around. It took Nate Wiggins, their first round pick a little bit of time. They jelled and they knew D-Corporonator. New D-Corpsinator because McDonald went to Seattle, exactly. But now, like, there's continuity there.

And so is it just, you know, Madabuque's injured and Van Nuys injured? And it's like we should we be talking about the Ravens defense like we talk about the Chiefs offense? Well, when they get worthy and Rishi Rice back, that's the same thing for, you know, the two top players. on the Ravens. I don't know the answer to that, but I also know we won't get the answer till January. Well, hold on. I think I know the answer to that because we saw the Ravens defense in week one with those guys, let the bills do whatever they wanted. And that is the bills. Weird things happen in week one, but they're in elite offensive team. Right, but they get, this is my frustration. So I am panicked for Baltimore. And people can say, Nick, it's a double

standard between the Chiefs and the Ravens. For me, yes, 100% it is. And I think the Chiefs have earned it. And as far as what it would take for me to panic about the chiefs being able to flip a switch in January is very different. And the Ravens have done the opposite of earn the benefit of the doubt. The Ravens are a team that could go 15 and 2 with the number one offense and number three defense and there would still be a level of, I saw that once before. And so, yes, I do have a bit of a double standard here. But I also think that the, and we can, I don't know if we can show it or not, dust, the chief's off. to the Ravens defense, because you kind of set up my point, the Chief's offense has been mid. The Ravens defense has been awful. That's the difference. Like the Chief's offense is, and we'll show it at some point, is middle of the pack in everything.

And the Ravens' Devens at the moment is close to last in everything. And then you add to it. So like that is different. Neither is good. You know what I mean? But one is catastrophic. and the other is disappointing, particularly given who your quarterback is. And you add that to the fact that to me, and this was, I thought, apparent at the beginning

of the game, they seemed pressed. Now, the Chiefs have seemed pressed, but the Chiefs were on the first three-game losing streak the team had ever dealt with. You know what I mean? Since Patrick's been there, there were things going on. that Lamar's body language immediately seemed odd for a team that was coming off a win and whose offense had scored 40 in both of their games. You know what I mean?

Like they, right now they average 37 points again. Yes. Right. And they're one and two. So look, unless they lived in a hole, you would think they got to be feeling the heat. They know, you talked about last year being kind of things. they were in the perfect situation. It felt.

Two years ago, too, when they lost to the Chiefs, they were in a perfect situation, right? And that, so the last two years, they've kind of been right there, not played their best football in the postseason, which strange happening, just a great tight-in dropping a ball and a fumble by Derek. Like, all these things happening, they are definitely feeling the heat. Lamar probably is feeling, he's hearing the noise about you got to win a Super Bowl. you don't do it in the playoffs and Josh at least gets it plays well in the playoffs so

I do think they're probably feeling the heat and that's why they need to beat the Chiefs to just get some peace of mind Okay listen I I buy that because they did look frustrated last night but to your point on the double standard Nick like if you will have questions about them at 15 and 2 you also

will have questions about them at 11 and 6 because like the question is no matter what the question is can the Raven play their best football in January for three or four consecutive weeks. That's the only thing that an S-Bob team matters, right? Yes, but the distinction is this. If they're 15 and 2, and the answer to that question is yes, then they win the Super Bowl.

If they're 11 and 6, if you are a 15 and 2 caliber team and you play your best in the playoffs, you win the Super Bowl, the Ravens team that I have seen thus far this year at its best, will not win the Super Bowl. You understand what I mean? Like, if you're an 11-6 team that you typically, your best is not good enough to get to the Super Bowl. And so I think that the Ravens right now, that Lamar is an unbelievable player, an all-time great.

The rest of the team, it's like, wait, so why was he sacked seven times? And why is Derek Henry, you know, why for the first time in the last time, Lamar's career did they go back-to-back games without rushing for 100 yards the first time. And then we get to the defense and then we get to the fact that the coach, it is pretty consistent to me that in these tight spots and we talk game management stuff, the other coach does a better job than Harbaugh.

Like I thought, you know, Dan Campbell going for that fourth down was something that it felt to me like in the flip side Harbaal wouldn't have. And I'm not saying Harbaugh necessarily needed to go for his fourth, you know, the other. like fourth and nine with six minutes left. I thought that was a borderline one. I'm not going to kill him for that. There's just a lot of pieces of Baltimore that through three weeks are alarming for a team that doesn't have the, don't worry, we've been there before pedigree.

Brew, can I give you a put one take on the take chip board? And I think I established that this was my take on the Ravens. I wouldn't mind if they didn't have home field advantage in the playoffs. Well, luckily they're not going to. Well, if they had a few rough losses and they didn't just have cruise control and it's like week 16 and we're like rest versus rust for the Ravens, they cruised that they have some tough losses. They have to address some stuff during the season. I think they talked about. Yeah.

Like Lamar knows like, you know what? I'm not going to get sacked. I'm not going to. I'm just going to take off now more. Derek Henry gets another lesson oddly on ball security. That seems a little bit too elementary. But maybe it's just through the fire. I think that's a good point.

last year they had very little adversity after starting one and two. This year, some would help. But what it would also help is beating an elite team. Like they've lost the Buffalo. They've lost to Detroit. If they lose to the Chiefs, they only got one more elite team on the schedule. That's another reason you don't need to panic. I mean, Texans now, the Rams, if you count the Rams.

But look at the last two columns. It's the Packers. It gets light. Yeah. Right. Like the Bears, the Dolphins. That's an interesting point, bro. If they lose to the Chiefs, they won't have more.

many opportunities to prove them. Yes. And not all that's great. I mean, the Rams is kind of, but the Packers will be the last chance. Yeah. So yeah. And then we need to be like a four or five game winning. Yeah.

Our guy. You got to just be aware of that. Yeah, that's true. Beating the Bears, it's pretty hard to do. Yeah. Meanwhile, the Lions moved at two and one with a complete game on offense and defense. Dan Campbell feeling caffeinated and great. I don't know.

State. all this and that, but it just feels good to know against a type of team like that. You play a different type of game and you're able to find a way to win. So one of the things I mentioned early in this year is I told the team, I want to find, I'm going to find out how many different ways we can win games, you know, because the better you get it winning, the more you win. There we go. The Lions officially put the league on notice, Parkins.

I mean, if you haven't been noticing the Lions, I don't, I didn't need that game last night. Oh, really? Personally. Because you overrate the Bears. No. I don't think it was. I mean, you thought them beating the Bears 52. Oh, my gosh.

Wow. Look, they do. Wow. I had to consider that. Yeah. Maybe that's there in subconscious. Listen, I've picked the Lions to represent the NFC and the Super Bowl now three consecutive years.

Like, I feel like I was an early adopter. Their Super Bowl picked this year? They were my, yeah. Bill's Lions. Oh, I forgot. Okay. I had forgotten that. Bill's Lines.

So, yeah, I didn't buy into. the idea that, oh, they lost Aaron Glenn and Bent Johnson. They were going to deteriorate. To me, the team you saw last night is the team that I feel like we as football fans were robbed of seeing in the NFC championship game last year against Philadelphia. Like that team with Aiden Hutchison, with a pass rush, with an elite offense. Because their investments are more on the offensive side of the ball. But their blueprint is, score a ton of points, play with a lead, and then get after the

quarterback and sack you. And they were able to do it to Lamar Jackson. so I feel like they could do it to just about anybody. It's just some facts about the Lions. Most points in the NFL since 2023, the Lions. Third point differential team in the NFL since 2023, the Lions. Most yards since 2023, the Lions. They've been great for a while, and last year, they just got very unlucky with injuries on one side of the ball.

They were a 15-1 seed. So we don't talk about them as accomplishing a ton because they've been more of a regular season team. I understand that. But that was not shocking to me at all. So listen, you know, despite the fact that at the very end of yesterday's show, I picked the Ravens to win.

About two minutes before kickoff, I like to bet what I'm rooting for at times. And I was rooting for the Ravens to lose because it would be a better show and it's better for the Chiefs. So I bet the Lions and the over. and then was sweating it in our gambling group chat that you guys are nodding

because you guys are not the gamblers of the show. It's me Danny and Adam Lucko to be totally honest. Just sharing different bets. And that's what I was rooting for. It is not what I anticipated because, and this is where they did put me on notice, so to speak. The two things that I was most worried about going into the season last year,

or this year was, man, with the changes at the interior of that offensive line, are they going to be able to run Dan Campbell's style of smash mouth football? Last night, they were as smash mouth as they've ever been. You know what I mean? Those two 95-yard drives were unbelievable. I know one had the super long chunk play on a run, but the first one didn't.

Right. And then the other one was, where is Jared Goff's mindset? Because where I disagree with you, Danny, is we maybe we the Lions injuries last year maybe could have cost them a Super Bowl in a lot of universes. But the reason they didn't make the NFC championship game last year is because Jared Goff had a four turnover playoff game and that was not the Lions defensive injuries.

And I was worried that how was that going to land on him this season, especially when week one went as poorly as it did. I thought it was whether it was intentional or not, them going through that fourth down and putting the ball in his hand. to ice that game was huge and that he came through. So to me, it did knock the Lions up a level in my brain of where I looked at them because I didn't think their window was closed, but I thought their best shot probably was two years ago and last year and this year it's

going to be different. So yeah, they put me on notice. I thought it was a huge statement game, Danny, because obviously week one, they got pushed around. They ran for like 45 yards against Green Bay. Green Bay, I thought, kind of did to them what they did to Baltimore. The numbers are different, but, you know,

Green Bay physical was more physical than them. And then the Bears, we'll see what the Bears become, but that was like, okay, what are the Bears? You know, so I didn't, that didn't write the ship for me. This righted the ship. And to me, they went from, in my mind, being like, definitely a playoff team, win a playoff game or two,

to now back to, oh, they're a legit Super Bowl contender. be surprised to see them represent the NFC. So that was huge. And I thought also for Dan Campbell, like we're not going to hear much I don't expect more about Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn being gone. I don't think you should. No, it's his he changed the culture there and last night kind of stamped it. Their talent is just pretty overwhelming.

Like if you just start going around their offense, it's like, oh, is that the best tackle duo in the NFL? It's in the conversation. Is it the best running back duo in the NFL? Yes. Probably. Yeah. Amon Ross St. Brown hasn't dropped a pass in two years. Yeah. Top three wide receiver in the game.

Is that true? Are you just saying that? No, they showed it on the broadcast. Last year he had 169 targets. 100 and he has he did not drop a pass last season and he hasn't dropped one this season. Right. Like, Laporte is elite. Golf has been great.

They're just, they're an awesome football team. KW. Yeah. You missed your ex a bit? You know what? This is his ex and now he's run off with the Eagles. Oh, yeah. No, he ran off.

What I wonder is, you start a new season, you know that meme with, it's like a Spider-Man meme, but the other Spider-Man meme, where it's like the guy's like doing his glasses and it's like, oh, we can get refocused. I think you come into the year, be like, are these good teams still the same team? And the only teams are the lions, are the Eagles still the Eagles? Like, I'm not 100% sure. Are the Chiefs still the Chiefs? I don't know. I don't know. Are the Ravens still the Ravens?

Are the Vikings still the Vikings? No. I have some noes and I have some maybes. It really feels like the bills, the Bills, the Bucks, and the Lions. Am I missing anybody that feels like you guys are still good, have the same identity and feel. Yeah. Some teams got better, obviously. But like you guys still have the same team and still have the same moment.

No, I think there's another team definitely on that list. Same team as last year with Patriots. Donald. No, there's a shadow of God. I'm talking about good teams. Oh, my bad. My bad. Sorry.

Not teams that are rebuilt. The Rams. No, the Rams got shut out. Well, they are the same team. Just lose to the Eagles guy. Everybody's all American. All the arm angles. Put it on repeat.

Jackson Dart, now the starting QB of the New York Giants. He'll be under center when the Chargers come to town. Sunday at one. Russ's Giants tenure, pretty short-lived. Three games, two not great games. One awesome game against the Cowboys. Was benching Russ the right move right now, Danny Park. I would have done it week one. I would have done it week one.

Personally, to me, you want to find out if these guys are the guys as soon as possible. Even if they're not ready? So I think that's a mistake. But if he wasn't ready week one, how is he ready now? I guess that's my. I mean, exactly. You can improve in the month. I mean, really?

You can, but do you think they're playing him now because he's ready or because of how bad Russ was? Well, it's obviously Russ. And they wanted to, they were thinking, as everyone was thinking they had a great defense or would. and they're thinking, let's see if we can get in the playoffs. Like, they had playoff aspirations. Sure. And they thought Russ could help him get there. But Jackson Dart matters to the future of the Giants more than Russell Wilson does.

Future, yes. Obviously, right? And so starting the clock on that future because Russell Wilson was bad for three games, like you should be basing everything through the prism for me of Jackson Dart. And so what I would worry about now is, are they going to play him before he's ready, to your point, and then play him with a coach that they're ultimately going to fire, and he's going to have two coaches in two years. Because that is how you stunt the development of a young quarterback.

There are countless examples of that throughout the NFL. So this, I 100% agree with you. The problem I have with this is the process. And it's the, if Jackson, you are trying to win games, you are also trying whenever you draft the first round quarterback to develop that quarterback as well as possible. And to me, it is at cross-year-old. purposes trying to tell people he was not ready.

He was not the best option after week one. It is September 23rd. He's the best option now. They don't know. That part to me is it goes to your point that some of these teams, they just don't know what they're not going to them. Did they say that he wasn't ready? Because again, they, Dable and those guys are thinking,

we're going to make the playoffs this year and save our jobs. We got a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Granted, pass his prime, but still, he helped Pittsburgh get to the playoffs. We know we got a strong defense like Pittsburgh had a year ago. We got a great receiver. Let's go out there and win some games. Now it's over. Now the seat, even to Daible and his staff, you understand it's all about developing this guy.

They have to win now. Yeah, they've got to win some games. But, I mean, they're not going to make the playoffs. But if they win seven games with Dart looking pretty good, Well, that part is true that going, the Giants going 7 and 10 with Russell Wilson starting 17 games is a what the hell was that full season. The Giants going 7 and 10 with Jackson Dart starting the rest of the way is we feel good about that part of it. I agree with you there, Bruce. Yeah, if he looks good.

But you should be playing Jackson Dart on Jackson Dart's timeline, not on Russell's time. Right. The argument is that actually maybe James should be starting. Correct. Like if Jackson DART wasn't ready 23 days ago, or however long ago, less than that, then probably, and you can't play Russ anymore, then it's probably J.Miss while you wait. But I think this is about avoiding booze and avoiding empty seats, because I think that's what gets coaches fired.

Listen, I test off preseason, so it's basically meaningless, but I watched it, so I'll say it. Look sick. He looked pretty good. He looks really good. I'm excited for this, and I absolutely see a reasonable path that he is better than Russell Wilson. Oh, yeah. This year, it's definitely on the board that Giants players in that locker room are like, all right, let's go. Well, I do think they were.

Yeah, and I think they were really turned off by what they saw from Russ in the last game. I would imagine. Their spirits may have been broken, so you might have had to make the change. Coming up next, Danny's top 10. Can the Chiefs climb? They weren't even in Collins rank. I know. Well, they are one and two.

They are technically one and two. Get it? Top 10 Tuesday. Danny Parkins, Greg Jennings and Willie Colon entering in at number 10 for the first time, the Indianapolis Colts. But pour one out for their punter. Rigoberto Sanchez.

Who? Exactly. And it's not just because he's a punter. The Colts have been so good offensively. They've punted once all year. 3-0, 1 punt. You deserve a spot on the top 10. I don't make the rules.

I just enforce them. Number 9. Sorry you lose to the Browns. You drop all the way to number 9 with the Green Bay Packers. And listen, their greatness, like their best is really good. But the bad is a big yikes. And Jordan Love, I struggle trusting him when he has at least one turnover in 13 of their 17 losses since 2023, including the playoffs. He is 24 touchdowns and 23 turnovers in their losses since 2023.

Like when he turns the ball over, they tend to lose. Catastrophe. And obviously those two things are correlated for every team, but he just throws a lot of interceptable passes. Too many for me to fully trust him. Coming in at number eight, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers up just one spot from last week. Obviously, the wins are impressive. Obviously, the clutchness is great.

And I, like everyone, love the bake show. I don't know how sustainable this is. Well, they're hot. Let them go. I understand. Mike Evans with the injury, but they're getting worse back. They're getting Godwin back. I love to see this offense fully healthy,

because I still do think they've got a top five ceiling on the offensive side of the ball. The L.A. Rams, I said before the year, I doubted you with health. Now that you've proven that you're healthy and Stafford staying upright, I fully believe in what this team is able to do. But it's really not about Stafford.

Even though Pooka Nakua has been incredible, this defense just continues to impress what they've been able to do with young players. players on the defensive side of the ball to make a consistent impact makes them one of the toughest outs in the NFL. They are tied for the most sacks in the NFL. Coming in at number six, I know this will be controversial. It's the Kansas City Chiefs. Let them go.

No, I'm not going to. This is the pivot point this week for the Kansas City Chiefs because the numbers obviously are alarming. But it's the Chiefs. But these are all career worse through three weeks for Mahomes, passing touchdowns, rating, completion percentage, yards per attempt, and a big one, points. But beat Baltimore, get back to two and two. We've talked about this for years, Greg, and we'll get into it. But, like, I give you a little bit more leeway if you've been great for a while.

Teams like the Lions, the Chiefs, the Eagles, et cetera. So the Chiefs, for now, at number six. If they lose to Baltimore, we will revisit it next Tuesday. Coming in at number five, the aforementioned Baltimore Ravens. The defense is alarming. It was alarming last year. It's alarming again, but then it got great by the end of last year. Can they do it again?

I don't know the answer to that. Like, this is the ultimate time will tell thing. We were talking about it with Brew and Nick and Wilds before. Like, to me, 15 and 2 and 11 and 6 is the exact same thing for the Baltimore Ravens. What are they going to be in January? I know the team right now can't stop anybody, but their offense is so good. I'm splitting the difference and putting them at number five. The Lions took a big jump, though, up three spots this week to number four.

Listen, the Lions' offense when it's rolling is simply the best in football over the last three years. I mean, just some facts here for you. That was the 11th game the Lions have scored 36 or more points since 2023. That's the most in the NFL. When Jared Golf is on over the last three seasons, in wins, 72% completion percentage, 7,500 yards, 61 touchdowns, all best of the the NFL. This guy's ridiculous. Like, their offense, when it's humming, which is honestly, basically more consistently than any team in the league based on points scored the last three seasons, they're unbelievable.

So right now at number four, I can easily see this one actually, frankly, going up. And before the year, I expected it to, they were by pick to win the NFC. Coming in at number three, the LA Chargers. Undefeated, figuring out a way to win, both sides of the ball, Justin Herbert playing better football than anyone in the NFL, and then you factor in what their defense is. Here's the thing. In college football, it was clemsoning. In the NFL, it was chargering. They just figured out ways to lose. How about this? Not anymore. In one score games, they now have a winning record under Jim Harbaugh. They used to be one of the worst teams in the NFL at it. In the clutch situations,

the fourth quarter, they used to be one of the worst teams in the NFL. Now, Justin Herbert has a passer rating over 120. Chargering no more. You actually trust this team to figure out, oh, they're down in the fourth quarter of the Denver Broncos? Not a problem. They're going to figure it out. And they did. Coming in at number two, no change.

The Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen, he probably would win the MVP if it was over right now. No turnovers for eight straight games going back to last year. I mean, that is just a remarkable thing given where he was. We know their offense is. incredible. Defense is not elite. I'd rather have an elite offense than an elite defense, and I definitely love Josh Allen if he's not turning the ball over. And again, don't make the rules just enforce them. But until further notice, number one, the Philadelphia Eagles.

Listen, you're the champs and you keep losing. You lose, you'll drop. You don't lose. You stay atop. I was immensely impressed with the three passing touchdowns and over 200 passing yards in the second half for Jalen Hertz. Their defensive line is ridiculous. Their defense is talented and young and getting better. And I think they might actually start throwing to AJ Brown. A revolutionary thought. There is your perfect top 10. Greg Jennings.

I assume you agree completely. I definitely don't agree with the top 10. Okay. Perfect. It's a couple of issues. It's unattainable. It's a couple issues that I have with it. Obviously, the Packers and where they are.

There's a team in red, not the bucks, but go a little left. The Chiefs. We got to knock them down. I'm not going to beat up on the Ravens, because the Lions did that last night. So I'm going to focus on the Chiefs. Okay. We got to drop the Chiefs.

And I understand what you're saying as far as their resume and who they've always been in that pedigree. Well, that pedigree shows up at its best in the postseason. Over the course of the regular season, they've typically been able to get it done. This year looks a lot different. And for them to look the way that they did,

even in their last game outing here in New York, against the Giants, it just doesn't look right. And I know we can point to what they don't have offensively, what they're not able to do defensively. But these are all the reasons. Even when we look at Patrick Mahomes, it looks like he's pressing even more. I just don't think this team is as good as advertised right now.

And now that doesn't mean that I believe that they're not a top 10 team. They are just not in this moment better than the Green Bay Packers. They're not better than the L.A. Rams. They're not better than the Buccaneers. I'll give you the Colts because there's still questions out on the Colts. So you have them as the 10th best team in the NFL. But I'll put them at 9-10, yeah. All right, listen, and again, this is a fluid list.

I fully admit my own bias. Like, if you are a consistent team, it takes more than one blip for me to drop you. I'm not quite there yet. It's been a couple of blitz. But to teams that are one and three on the list. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Like they don't have the bad loss yet.

And by the way, the Ravens would not be that bad of a loss. Like preview for next top 10 Tuesday. They might hang out at number nine or 10 if they lose the Baltimore. After that, though, they could fall. All right, Willie, perfect list. Allow me to be petty. I'm going to drop the Green Bay Packers down a pig. I'm going to put them in a 10 spot.

And what? Yeah. Listen, when it comes to the Green Bay Packers, they can't find love in the fourth quarter. Right? The defenses have figured out if I play too high, rush forth and make Jordan Love, force them to make layered throws, the offense goes nowhere. I mean, they're stagnant and stale, especially with the run game. So if you're looking at the Packers overall, when they need Jordan Love the most, we just showed the interception. And when you talk about the run game, not showing up, he can't shoulder this offense. So I don't know where the Green Bay Packers go if Jordan

Love doesn't show up in situational football. They look average when he falls stale. So, You can talk about the defense, but it all comes down to Jordan Love's shoulders. And we said yesterday, he's streaky, man. He is. Can't count on him. Which is why their defense has been great, and the Brown's defense is going to make a lot of people look bad. And Jordan Love at times, I'm sure, he'll have five touchdown games and beat good teams. I just don't know how much to trust them.

I don't know how to trust. I don't know. They remind me a little bit of what's going on with the Eagles. Like, they were relying on the running game last season when we saw them make their run, and they were having a lot of success with Josh Jacobs, and it was opening up everything else. This year, their running game hasn't been as prominent and as effective. And so I think that's impacting them.

Jordan Love, I agree. He has to be better in moments, but he's been good. I mean, excuse me, we trust Hertz after what he did against the Rams, right? There's no question about. We do. I don't know of the media or the world at large. There's no way anybody to have any doubt about. Do we?

Jalen Hurts. Listen, he's got the ring on his finger. Oh, God. I trust him not to make the mistake that Jordan Love does. Do you trust Taylor Hurts over Jordan Love? Yes. Yes. That's what I do.

Yes. He will not turn the ball over like Jordan Love will turn the ball over. But Jordan Love will throw the ball. Yeah, yeah. Jordan Love will throw the ball a lot more. So it's confusing. These guys had a big disagreement on last night's game. Someone owes lunch.

Someone didn't pay. Oh, okay. Last night, the Lions rolled the Ravens in Baltimore, Despite Lamar Jackson having a great night with three touchdowns, the defense just could not slow down. Jared Gough, Jemir Gibbs, David Montgomery, and the Detroit Lions who put up 38 points. Here's Dan Campbell after the big win in prime time.

We did exactly what we said we needed to do. We were able to corral Lamar. We didn't let Henry get going and Zay Flowers. You know, we came away with takeaways and big stops. You know, and offensively, we were able to control the ground and the time of possession and our receivers and golf made plays in critical moments in this game. I just thought it was an outstanding team effort.

So the question is bigger story here, Ravens loss or Lions win. And to me, it's on the Ravens side, but I will say I fully expect both of these teams to be playing in January. So to me, I said it yesterday could be a Super Bowl preview. both of these teams, Brew would say, are S-Bob, Super Bowl, or bust. Their seasons are not made or lost in September when you are as talented as either of these two teams. But the bigger question for me, because I said it, I was like, the reason I picked the Ravens was I thought both teams had elite offenses and I thought the Ravens defense was better than the Lions defense.

That take aged like an avocado because the Lions pass rush was incredible. And the Raven- They understood their assignment. Stay in your rush lanes. You can bottle them up and get the sacks. Yeah, but you don't normally see it. Lamar go down like that? No, but I think to

what we watched yesterday into Detroit Lions is they understood that when Action Jackson, you take away his first option, he gets featsy out there. He just legs go crazy. He's trying to get out the pocket. So you saw right now those ends stay in contain, stay in your rush lane that he had nowhere to go. And they remained in constant

pursuit of him. Yeah. Regardless of where he was, because he does get out the pocket and get up in the pocket and keep his eyes down the field. And he doesn't go to strictly his legs. Like some of those, some of those sacks, you got to just go run. And he's still trying to look down, trying to find somebody open. So I think that's why they got, getting down. And so now my question for Baltimore would be, are you going to figure it out? Because last year, they figured

it out defensively. Yeah. They did. Yeah. I wanted to remind myself because you don't normally see this. You may be will see improvement, but you don't normally go from half the season, you're a bottom seven defense to then the second half of the season. You're literally the best in the NFL. You know? And so if I'm a Ravens fan, the thing that would keep me up at night is was last year our best shot, where the offense and defense were both elite at the same time. Because I think Derek Henry will figure it out. I think the offense will be great. But if the defense merely improves to 12th in the NFL, that's not as good of a team as last year.

So to me, the bigger story was on the Ravens side. Yeah, I'm with you, Danny. For me, it's the Ravens too. And I think John Harbaugh and his Ravens team is in trouble because for me, it's about situational football. It's about third and truth, fourth and needed. I go back to weak one against Buffalo, fourth and two, a minute 33 on the clock. We dragged John Hallbar for taking the ball out of Lamar Jackson's hand, right? Because he said, listen, I'm going to roll my defense out there.

He's going to stop Josh Allen. It didn't happen. Then we watched last night, fourth and go, we gave the ball to Lamar Jackson, Jack Campbell, Strip Sack, Ravens Recovery, and it was just a decline ever since, declined the rest of the game. And then you saw Derek Henry fumble. So my point is, if you're John Hallbar right now, who do you lean on when you need it the most?

because your defense has failed you, your offense has failed you, you put the ball in your playmaker's hand, he has failed you, Derek Henry has failed you. If you're a Super Bowl contender like we all think they are, who do you lean on when you need it most right now? I mean, I think that answer is going to be Lamar,

but again, you have to see that in January, though, but you're on it, you think it's the Lions side of the thing. Yeah, I look at the Lions in the fashion of which they won the game. You listen to Dan Campbell, and any time a coach comes into a week, There's keys to victory. There's things that we want to see on film when we come back to watch this game, this tape, and this game film. And they're going to watch it and they're going to see it.

Are we going to be the most physical team? Are we going to establish ourselves and establish the line of scrimmage on both sides of the football? And then can we sustain drives? Can we control the ball and keep the ball out of their best players' hands? They, like he said, eliminated there can run. and they did it early. After that first long 28-yard run, we saw nothing more of Derek Henry

in a positive respect. Lamar Jackson, he's going to get you eventually, but you want to minimize that and you want to make him question what he's doing. They did that with their constant pursuit and then running the football, this is what was most impressive. And I know without Meta-Bouquet out there,

you're saying, well the Ravens didn't have this. That's exactly why the lions felt like, look, we better be able to run the ball right down the throat of this defense because what they don't have. And if we get that going, everything else is up for grabs, and we saw that. Fourth, a crucial fourth down,

and you don't run the ball with the fact that you were running in the fashion of picking up the yards as you were picking up, you decide play action, hit it over the top, and they deliver. it was a great display of play calling of being able to just outman your guys. I loved it. Well, can I say this quickly? We also got to call out Todd Monk in the O.C. Because I thought he did something that I thought he was going to correct

after the Ravens lost to the Chiefs in the 2000-23 AFC Championship. They lost that identity in the second half running the ball. They got away from it. In the first half, I thought they committed to the run. They were solid for the most part. Coming out of halftime, they fell apart. There was no sense of commitment to the run game. And I think that's the biggest woes with the Ravens right now. When things get tight and things get hot on the field, you see Todd Monk and say, all right, we got to air it out.

That's not who the Ravens are right now. And that's not who they've ever been. It's about ground and pound, winning our early downs and being able to establish long drives with the run game. And he failed once again at that in a crucial game. To me, this is a crucial game because this is who the Ravens are right now. Whether we want to believe it or not, this is who they are. The defense can't stop anybody. And the office is great, but not good enough.

to win games and tight matchups. We'll see if they can do it against the Chiefs. Let's go to Dallas though. This story, this is just hilarious. So the Cowboys host the Packers, and you might have heard Micah Parsons is now on Green Bay. And Jerry Jones was asked, are they planning on recognizing Micah's return and honoring him?

Here's what Jerry had to say. I don't think that's appropriate this way. Emmett, as an Emmett Smith coming back, that was a different story. But that's not to diminish Micah. I think Micah's got enough welcome out there. We just need to show we've got antidotes for that. Who thought Micah Parsons deserved, like, a tribute video?

You heard the kids will say, like, that's a self-own? What do you think Jerry Jones is like, you know what? I want to honor that one playoff win against Tampa. And you know how everyone's clowning me for trading this generational player for Kenny Clark and some draft picks who aren't on the field? Let's just give the crowd an opportunity to boo me. What? They traded him.

He didn't retire. I don't understand. Why would Michael Parsons be honored in Dallas when they traded him away? I'm interested to hear your take. Give me something. Because I feel like you got something that's going to piss me up. Well, no, I probably don't. Like, do I feel like he's deserving of it when you?

He was an awesome player, obviously. Yeah, awesome, very awesome player. Anytime you have that type of value, not only on a team, but even recognition with the fan base and you are that beloved, some type of acknowledgement. Does he need a tribute? I don't care if he had one or not. I didn't get a tribute.

I was there in Green Bay for seven years, one of the Super Bowl, all the things. I never thought about getting a tribute. I doubt if Mike had thought about it. However, how Jerry said this, I don't think it's appropriate. Like, it's not appropriate. You don't celebrate an ex's birthday.

This is Jerry's house. Well, I didn't want to be it next. You got rid of me. No, you need to be an ex because we weren't winning with you, right? And so we had to make a decision. And you're winning without me. No, the secondary is horrible. And Matt Ebelflus is bad.

Man, the defense is horrible. I don't want to hear nothing. Listen, they got to be better. Michael was an impact player. I'm not going to take that away from me. At the end of the day, I think Jerry Jones is 100% right. Let's move on. I did what I did.

I said what I said. We don't need to celebrate somebody who I felt was really holding us back. And stand on it. I'm always, listen, I'm the type of guy if you're right, wrong, and different, stand on what you say. Me and it. This is Jerry Jones doing it. I can't believe you didn't get, I mean, you caught multiple touchdowns in the Super Bowl.

You played in playoff games, plural. I honestly did not. I never thought about that. Yeah, sure. But you had, like, you played in big games. What did Mike Parsons do? What didn't you play it? Tough news out of San Francisco.

Nick Bosa out for the season and injuries are now piling up for the Niners. You know, Iyuk and Kittle, obviously Brock Purdy, Juan Jennings, Kyle Shanahan with the obvious statement that you cannot replace Nick Bosa. But they are undefeated. Can the Niners keep it up, Greg Jennings, with all these injuries? No, they can. This is the one thing that has always derailed this team. It's injuries. And it's always injuries to their marquee player.

They're players that just carry so much weight on either the offensive side or the defensive side. Yeah, to me, the schedule doesn't warrant panic. I think they can. If you pop their schedule right up real quick. It's an easy schedule on paper. Yeah, it is. They can run through the Jaguars. It's going to be a tough one against the Rams.

Obviously, they're top. They're up, their top dogs. The bucks they can rumble with. So after that, they can roll. So for me, I'm not worried about. Mack Jones has been pretty efficient. They're playing well. I know the loss of Bosa hurts, but you still have Bryce Huff.

and you got the young kid, the kid, McHill, playing well. So I'm okay with the nine-ups. Yeah, listen, they are very, very top-heavy as a roster. Yes, they are. And so then when you start losing elite players, like you might win some regular season games, I'm with you, but they're trying to win big. And now boss out for the year.

And that's not happening. Exactly. It's going to be too much attrition for them at some point. That's what happens when you pay Brock Curry. Can I get my... You'll get your lunch from him tomorrow. Oh, okay.