First Things First - Mavs fire Nico Harrison, Eagles beat Packers, Can Joe Burrow save the Bengals, Mahomes Mountain

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

(0:00) Nico Harrison fired by Mavericks, Eagles beat Packers (26:14) No Bills reunion for Brian Daboll, Can the Bengals win the AFC North? (43:20) Bucs missing “Killer Instinct” according to Baker Mayfield (48:02) Mahomes Mountain (01:06:12) Should Micah Parsons be concerned?  (01:21:41) Brou’s MVP Ballot  (01:28:00) Danny’s Top 10, Bigger statement for Eagles or Packers?  (01:51:56) Can Joe Burrow save the Bengals’ season? (02:01:20) He Said, We Said (02:10:11) Best moments from Week 10 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Live from New York, the show is wishing you a happy Veterans Day from all of us. Absolutely. Indeed. Absolutely. We're happy to be here. We'll have vignettes and shoutouts from service men and women from around the country, so we're very excited. We are starting off today. Eagles over Green Bay. Did they knock the Packers out of contender status when we discussed?

Brew, you should be feeling a little bit nervous. Meanwhile, Mavs fire Nico Harrison. What does this mean for Luca? What does this mean for Cooper Flag and the Mavs? And what does this mean for NBA history? And finally, Chiefs are on a by. Will there be a new quarterback at the top of Mahomes Mountain? Alongside Chris Bressard, I'm Kevin Wilde's.

Nick, changes on the mountain? There's always changes. In general, lots. If you do remember last week at Top the Mountain, I know for you, you've maybe blacked it out because it was so traumatic. That's the question. It was Matt Stafford. and he had another perfect game. So I would be surprised if Stafford got knocked down the mountain.

The question is this, do you trust what was in the doc? That's a great point. I really think that's a question going forward now. Not for me. I know there's some doubt. Wilde. While you're focused on that, Wild is commissioning art work? For what?

Well, I don't know. The executive producer of the show, pubs. Who goes the extra mile? was on his hands and knees painting for Kevin Wilde's today. For the record, neither Nick nor myself has ever had her painting. He's in a smock. He's going a little. He's breathing in a way beyond the hall of movie.

We can discuss in the post-show meeting with John's take. But for the record, he's like, I want to paint the door. Yeah. My response was no. He's like, well, have you paint the door? And my response was no. The guy just wanted out of the office. That's it.

I mean, and he didn't prime it for the record. It's just raw wood. I'm like, pro. He's like, oh, I gotta go primed. Watch. It's like a week long endeavor. It'd be like Dusty's dental appointments. Okay, wow.

Shots fire. Not shots fired. Shots fire. I'm at the dentist a lot. Wow, there's stuff to work for. He got you going the extra mile, you're taking shots at you on national TV. My goodness, man.

The 107 Eagles victory. Glass half full, defensive battle. battle. Glass half empty? Jalen Hurts had a touchdown loss to fumble. Here he was last night. Founding a way to win here as a collective group in this environment. Monday night football.

It's a big, big time win. That's a big testament to our team. Defense play lights out. One of the situational battle. Showed up in the end of the game when we could have avoided putting them in that position. But I feel like when there was a mishap, we had each other's backs. And that's all you can ask for.

What did the Eagles prove last night? They'll always be interesting. That's true. And they are kind of the perfect team for today's media ecosystem and the city in which they play. Because they'll always be, it feels like, some measure of controversy. These days, typically courtesy of. replay of the tush, push where it's like, oh, yeah, jumped again. There will all, there will more often than not be a little bit of lunacy.

Like, wait, Siriani's doing what? I thought Troy Aikman might leave the booth to go have a stern talking to with Nick Siriani when he decided to go for that fourth and six at the end of the game. There will, there's often some ominous stories, which is once, like, I thought I really enjoy Troy and Joe and it seems like they give us a little extra because they all the play by play duos

get info that they don't then share in those pre-production meetings and when they were talking about talking with Jalen Hertz and asking about his relationship with A.J. Brown and then Joe just offers up. It's like yeah and I wish you could share what he told you

after that story. Joe went a little far. I bet Troy was Exactly. But it just, it just see, you know, so it will always have all of these peaks in valleys and usually in a win. And so it's just, listen, if you guys remember after week one of the season, I was super down on the Eagles because I was like, ooh, that defense took a huge step back. The defense has steadily improved. The additions clearly, most notably Phillips mattered, and the defense more than carried the day. They are clearly. clearly an excellent team. They're the defending champs. They've played a brutal schedule. They're seven and two. But the offense is weird.

And the A.J. Brown thing is more than weird. It's inexplicable. So it's just who they're going to be. And I don't see, I just think it's going to continue on this saga of more often not, they find a way to win. And you leave the game scratching your head like, what a weird team and a weird game. Yeah. To me, they proved they are the team to beat in the NFC.

Now, you might say, well, they're the defending champ, so of course. But I think they went out and showed they're the best team in the conference. And actually, I think they're the best team in the league. Like, that was a great win. And you're right, the offense obviously left a lot to be desired. But defensively, they came out, and you mentioned the new additions, Jalen Phillips, seven pressures. They had had trouble getting to quarterbacks. And now, of a sudden, last night they get three sacks.

They have been averaging about two a game. So, you know, that's improved, at least for a night. And Nolan Smith had a sack. Phillips forced this, forced the fumble out Josh Jacobs late in the game. So defensively, like you said, Nick, they're starting to grow. And then offensively, you're right. They're a little bit strange. But I mean, it's more than a little strange, right?

Well, I think, I mean, look, you have games where you just, it's not clicking. and I know they have more. I don't think it'd be as talked about if A.J. Brown wasn't doing his little antics. I honest, if A.J. Brown doesn't come out this week and say anything, they're going to move right on. Like, I mean, we, I just, this is a good win. I think this is a good win. This shows your quarterback who always seems when he needs to make a play,

makes a play. He made the 36-yard touchdown pass to Devonte Smith. I mean, he came through. I'm not, I'm sorry. I'm not down on this win at all for Philadelphia. They went into another playoff team, Super Bowl contender something. I think went into their house and beat them on their own turf. We know it was a grudge match between the two teams.

So it was ugly. It was hard fought. But I'll take some of those. Okay. I'm the Jalen Hertz guy on the show and I'm the Drake May guy on the show. One's a lot easier than the other right now. and I have a hard. I'm not going to totally blame Jalen Hertz,

although his numbers this game were not good, and there's passes that are off target that are not necessarily Kevin Petulah's fault. But having A.J. Brown have three targets, one of them being the final play of the game, which was maybe an arm punt. I'm like trying to like, maybe if this gets intercepted, we don't hate it because it's at the one.

No, but the Green Bay knows not to intercept it. I know, but sometimes you just grab it in. I don't know. No, it was an indefensible decision that I think Wilds was made because Siriani was trying to be cutin and have nipping the bud any potential A.J. Brown stuff. It's like, oh, we tried to go to it. To win it. Right.

It's like, yeah, you weren't featured, but you won us the game. That was the cowboy script. And it's right. And it's the only way Green Bay had a chance to steal it at the end. Like, Brew, someone rooting for Green Bay. You were thrilled. Absolutely. Absolutely.

But I don't think you think he did that to appease AJ Brown? I think he did it because I thought it was an ego move by Siriani. I can agree with that. But I mean, to me, that's not going to appease AJ Brown. No, I agree with you. If he caught a touchdown to like ice the game. But the AJ Brown stuff. The game he tweeted the using me but not used.

Like nothing's going to. on peas this dude. At the end of the Cowboys game. He could still be like I got three targets. It was the same like, you know what? He didn't get a lot, but he got the most important one. That being said, again, am I a flag football championship winning coach? Yes.

You know, don't lay it at my feet. I understand. But I do have some limits. But at the same time, Brew, it's how you were a great wide receiver. We don't even know if you were great. We made the statement. We just say, but yeah, you made a state player. But, you know, you've got a wider series mentality.

You're out there, you're like, you got to be able to draw up more than three targets for A.J. Brown. So, and you have to. And I'm not saying I could do it, but I'm also not saying I couldn't do it. Well, here's the argument as to not necessarily that you could do it, but that all of the coordinators before Petulow could. As far as. Just draw up. Hey, AJ, do you have your old playbooks? Can I see one?

So what did you like? That's good. Let's do that. A.J. Brown's career with the Eagles, prior to this year, one out of 47 games, he had three or fewer targets. This year, two of eight. That's a problem. I think that this graphic leads perfectly into this graphic brew, which is in, okay, so this is A.J.'s career with the Eagles. Again, it's just, this is. First couple years there were great.

Yeah, leading the league in targets or something close to it and a monster production. falling off. But all of that has led to this three and out number, which can't happen. Look at the quarterbacks and teams and the Eagles have the highest in the league. A third of their drives go three and out. That is the same as the Broncos who, by the way, won a 10-7 nationally televised game a few days ago. Now, they weren't playing the backers.

They were playing the Raiders. But we killed them for it. Right? It's a big difference. Of course it's a big difference. My point is the, but it's Bo Nix. It's rookie Cam Ward. It's basically

rookie J.J. McCarthy slash Carson Wins. It's a little burrow, a little Browning, and I'm sure Flackos... Well, because the four eams with Browning were so bad. Oh. That's what most... Because obviously, Flacco's been Joe Burroughs 2.0. And then

the Browns who somehow had bad flacco, not good flaco, and now Dilling Gabriel. And the Eagles, who have the most expensive offensive offense in the league. Their skill position guys have been healthy.

And I know Sequan struggled this year and struggled again yesterday. He had the big gap. And he had the big play. But as far as him running the ball was another 22 for six years. I put that one on Packers. Yeah, sure, absolutely. Even though Michael Parsons is the worst run defender ever. I just, it is, there is

something. Troy's and Joe's comments about asking, they were like, we asked Jalen about AJ's comments. And he would not say anything other than he wanted to win. And then Joe

was like, and I wish we could talk about what he said after. It is more than ominous that yes, there's a Petulow problem, but I also think Jalen's not looking for AJ the way he used to. That's true. And again,

I agree with you, Rood, they're a great team, but this is weird. The offense is weird. I don't think Jalen would If there are personal feelings, I have no idea if there are personal feelings between them or issues, I don't think Jalen would let that get in the way. And I would assume those issues were there last year when obviously they went on to win the Super Bowl. No, I agree with you. I don't think, I think Jaylon Hurts only cares about winning.

But I also think you can approach winning different ways. One is let's just have, let's make as many explosive plays as possible. if we make a few mistakes, so be it, we'll make up for it. Another approach is make no mistakes, be super conservative. And the approach last night seemed to be. If it's not wide open, I'm not taking it. Meanwhile, the Packers dropped to five, three and one. Jordan Lawed through for a little over 175.

Got sacked three times, lost a fumble. It just looked. That was one of those. There are Jay-no moments here and there. Here he is after the game. We're not getting any consistency right now. We're not getting into a rhythm. We'll have a good play here and then it kind of just will have a negative play.

I think we're just kind of shooting ourselves in the foot right now and getting in the funk of having some good plays and then not building off them properly and having a play that might hurt the drive and we can't overcome it. It's disappointing. You know, you feel like as the offense you're letting the defense down because they're doing such a great job. first seven games to last two games we'll focus on last two oh and two team points are down 17 passing yards down about 25 no touchdowns two interceptions

and pass a rating oh two turnovers sorry and pass our rating down from 113 to about 75 brew are you losing any faith that was not a J no game other than that strip sack

it was a J-no. Like he just didn't have it. There's a difference. And I am losing a little bit of faith. You know, I still, look, the thing with him, and he mentioned the lack of consistency,

that's him. You have no idea what you're going to get from game to game from Jordan Love. And maybe even they feel maybe from possession to possession. Like two weeks ago against Pittsburgh,

he was phenomenal. You had no, and you've been kind of, you know, not a little bit of a detractor. And even you were like, hey, that was awesome. I have no problem with him being on Bruce Ballet that week. And then the last two weeks he's been bad. And we've seen him be great for half a season and then bad for half a season. And vice versa. So they have one problem.

And I'm not saying it's just him, but the offense is the problem. The three losses, the defense gave up 10 points, 16 points, 30. You should win every single one of those games. Through everybody else does. Keep going. Just show my graphic about here's the league this year when you allow 17 points or less. The Packers have lost three games. I think we can show it.

The Packers have lost three games. They're one and three when allowing under 17. The rest of the league is 62 and five. And the quarterbacks who have lost those games, you look at it, and it's like, oh, okay. So it's guys we have real questions about, and Jordan, who's done it three times. Yeah.

And the thing in a, you could obviously, you know, it's interesting. Geno's had great moments. Yeah. Kyle's had great moments for a Stroud. But, yeah, the defense is great, and they got to find a way to fix the offense. There are other issues. The offensive line hasn't been great.

The run game, I think Jacobs is still, great, but he just hasn't even averaged four yards of carry this year. So that's been an issue. But the success or failure of the offense always comes down to the quarterback. And he is just, we have a graphic here.

He's really struggled against the pressure. Like that's been the main thing. And last night he was pressured. So look at this. No pressure. He's phenomenal. And a lot of those ranks are top of the league or his second, third best in the league.

And then the pressure ranks, you see he really struggles pass rating. Those are near the bottom of the league. So, you know, we see quarterbacks like that, Jared Gough, and some others, but he's going to have to get better against pressure and be more consistent. Go ahead, Kato. Well, I was going to show you this headline for your reaction. We were going to kick this around.

It was going to be one of our main topics before Nico Harrison got fired. Why Packers Matt LaFlor might be coaching for his job after the loss. This took me as surprise. It shocked me to, and then I thought about it. Okay. The last year with Roger. they missed the playoffs. Two years ago, they're the seventh seed.

I have a shocking round one win, but they're the seventh seed. Last year, they're the seventh seed. This year, it's them, Chicago and San Francisco, at least one of those teams going to be left without a chair, barring a collapse from one of the top six teams, which would shock us. It would shock us if Philly's obviously going to be.

mean because of the division in Tampa, same thing. But if the Rams, Seattle, or Detroit, you know what I mean, miss out. There's five. So, like, there's two spots available for Green Bay. The Niners who have just been consistently winning and have, you know, a fortunate schedule in Chicago, who I think is most likely in it up without the chair. But they get. But they're fortunate.

And they still going to have to fight to make it. That seventh spot feels like it's right there. Right. But so the question is that, though. And why they're, I think. If they're the seven-seat, if they, if the year, Rogers last year, they were the eight-seat, then they go seven-seed, seven-seed, seven-seed, seven-seed, and two straight years, one and done in the playoffs.

When keep in mind, the article talks about Guten-Kunst and LaFleur next year would be the last year on their contract, so you either extend or fire. Like, that's how the NFL works. The owner said he doesn't, or they don't, the leaders don't really believe in lame duck. Right. No good franchise wants your head coach on it. The Cowboys is the only team that's like in the Bengals. They're like, we'll let them do the final year.

So I think that is, and I do think, Brew, I said it the day they traded for Micah. Jordan Love's the most intriguing player in the league. If he, if Jordan Love this year is the 10th best quarterback in football, they can win the Super Bowl. If he's one of the five best quarterbacks in football, they should win the Super Bowl with that defense. Right now, he hasn't made it. one of the 10 best. No. And the offense, and now that you also have no Tucker Kraft,

you worry about what the team's going to look like. But, I mean, that offense having zero points into the fourth quarter is just unforgivable. Journal has passed a rating without Tucker Kraft 92 with about 107. So that's a huge loss. All right. Moving to the world of the NBA, MADS owner Patrick Dumont was at his first Mazz game this year, heard the fire Nico chance and finally said, okay. Nico out after nine months after he traded Luca to the Lakers, Dallas,

three and eight this year. Brew your reaction to this news. I remember saying, you guys probably remember the day after this trade was made, or I don't know if it was that morning whenever we were on next, the only way to justify this trade was for them to win the championship within the next two years. Last year they didn't even make the playoffs. This year they were, they're looking like.

like they probably weren't going to make the playoffs. He was fortunate and lucky, really, that the ping pong balls bounced their way and then a third way or a second way emerged for him to kind of work his way out of his trade. And that was

if Cooper Flag became, and I apologize for comparing him to white guys, but became Larry Bird or Luca Donchich. Like, and Cooper looks like he's going to be good, but he don't, and he may eventually become a don't.

But not at this time. No, they came right into the league and right away were like one of the best players in the league. And he's not that. That was the only thing that could save him because then at least you could look at it like, okay, we gave up a superstar future Hall of Famer for a younger one. And I would have already. That shouldn't have saved him at all because it's dumb luck.

It would have been luck. It wasn't the plan. It's not like they got Cooper with one of the picks they traded Luca for. It was just dumb luck. But I didn't mean interrupt. Listen, listen, it's simply the worst move an executive is made in sports in 100 years. It's hard, darn.

It's simply that. And his hubris and quotes, after the fact, if the trade itself didn't fully do him in, they did him in. How many times do we have listened to defense wins championships? You're three and eight. You right now have the number three defensive basketball. But what do you, I hear you, what would you have rather him?

Like if you make that type of trade, you got to make it with your chest. No, fair enough, then maybe it's not his comments. It's just the rationale. They have the right now this moment, the Dallas Mavericks have the third best defense in the NBA, but they have the 29th best offense so it doesn't matter. Because in professional basketball, the most important thing in the league is what Luca provides. Offense. Now, to win a championship, you also need defense, but you cannot. It was, they built a team around Luca's skill set, and then they didn't have Luke

anymore, and the team immediately falls apart. I also don't give him a pass on the injuries. No. The moment you trade Luca, Kyrie played 40 minutes a game for a month, because he's the only creator. He gets hurt. You trade for Anthony Davis, whose biggest knock is his injury history. He's played 14. Anthony Davis, 14 out of 44 possible games. And by the way, you now have to consider trading him. Yeah, that would be the move I'd be looking to do. So this is what.

Try to go young. I don't think people have fully realized what a, not only what a disaster this is for Dallas, people know that, but the butterfly effect for the rest of the West. Because Dallas does not have, they have their own pick this year. and then in 2027 their pick goes to Charlotte. They don't own it. And in 2028, they swapped their pick with the Thunder. And in 2029, their pick goes to the Rockets.

And in 2030, they swap their pick with the Spurs. So the Mavs might be... They're swapping a first round pick in 2030 with the Spurs. and in two and a half years they're swapping with the thunder and the year in between they're giving theirs to the rockets

the three teams that are potentially going to be at the top of the West are going to have the Mavs first round pick at the end of the decade well that's why to your point they should look to trade AD see if there's a team that thinks it's close

and get rid of them and honestly they should look to trade Kyrie too I mean if they can if they can And Kyrie obviously is a great player. Again, a team that's close, see if you can get... Also while we're at it. And then just go young.

Let's have Clay go back to the Warriors. I just don't... Poor Clay is languishing. He's not working out. Yeah. But, I mean, so the... Listen, I want to... I mean this.

And I know it's just sports, but it's not just sports. Like, people that love sports love sports. And it really does impact, like, your mood and how you feel. And the ability to follow... a team and follow a player. What this guy's hubris or ego or own basketball malfunctioned his brain did to Mavs fans is one of the saddest things I've seen in recent, in sports sad is what I mean. We are used to in sports A, there's a chance a player's going to get mad and demand out.

Like we got it. We were prepared for that. But if you were a Mavericks fan, you were just like, like, can you imagine KW? Imagine if in two years and two more top five MVP finishes, you wake up one morning and Elliot Wolf traded Drake May. Yeah, and it's like you just don't get to follow him anymore. It's great, but hurt all that. Yeah, for Joe Burrow. I mean, okay, but, yeah, it would help you.

It just feels like something was stolen from you. Yeah. Because one guy. It felt like it shouldn't be allowed. Yes. It sounds weird, but it's like, oh, it's like, you're like kind of taking a community. Piece of the community. Yes. franchises go decades without getting a Luca Donchage.

Really? Yeah. Without getting that type of player. I mean, all this talk about draft picks and all that. It's all about getting a player like him. Yeah. And you got one. He's bawling out.

He gets into the finals. And he cried when you made him move. Joe Burroughs talking playoffs. That's next on FS1 and Fox Sports Radio on Series 6M. Happy Veterans Day. Fox Sports proudly salutes our nation's veterans. That is why we are making camo our cause this Veterans Day in support of the honor U.S. vets campaign. To donate and learn how you can help end veteran homelessness, visit go.

dot Fox slash U.S. vets. Coach, you're here. You wanted to honor a veteran close to you. Yeah, I want to honor my dad, Carmine Manjini, was a proud member of the U.S. Navy and served in Korean War. That's an amazing picture. The slight resemblance there, coach.

If I may honor once again my wife's grandfather, who's become my grandfather as well, Chief Master Sergeant, Abram Jones, William Abram. Jones who's still with us, still travels with us, hangs out when he comes to New York, and is now also a great, great grandfather and met his wife in the Air Force did 30 years, and he's probably watching right now. And he still looks good. He does. He still does his 25 push-ups every morning. Does he really? Yeah, 95 years old. Wow. Yeah. I want to honor three of the four

most important men in my life along with my brother, my grand, two grandfathers, Burley Broussard, Leonard Boregard, who fought, who were in World War II, and then my father, who was in Vietnam, Edward Broussard. They're all passed away now, but great men that molded me and shaped me. So salute to them. Before we get back to show, I want to send my thoughts to everyone from my hometown, Gride, Connecticut, submarine capital of the world. We also have the Coast Guard Academy there. So I wanted to, they're in my, you know, thoughts all the time. But I also wanted to say one other thing.

When I was growing up, they always had kids that had come to school from different parts of the country because there's a lot of Navy family. So you get kids coming from San Diego, you get kids coming from Virginia. And I never realized until I became a father the shared sacrifice of the families of veterans and people in the military, whether it's, you know, if you're, you know, if you're, your mom is out and your dad's, you know, holding down the fort or your dad is out, which a lot of times the fathers would be out on submarines. And, you know, my wife has gone for the weekend and I was lost. So the idea that you'd be out for, you know, months at a time serving the country.

It's a shared sacrifice. So happy Veterans Day to all the veterans and their families. Beautiful, KW. You're very, thank you. You're such a sweet guy. KW. got choked up saying that. No, it's very nice. I didn't realize because I was like, I was like a kid.

And then I was like, became a father. I was like, man, I forgot like these dad. dads would be out for months at a time. And it was just like normal because you got used to it. Yeah. And like once you're a dad, it's a, it's a real sacrifice, a shared sacrifice for an entire family. And thank you for, you know, I won't really deserve much.

It was just shouting out of you deserve all of credit. Yeah, back to first things first. Joe Burrow returned to practice yesterday and told Jay Glazer that he is aiming for a return around Thanksgiving, but not necessarily on Thanksgiving. Here's Burrow on the playoffs. Yeah, you know, our division is wide open. There's a lot of, I think Pittsburgh's 5 and 4 at this point.

We play them this week. So, you know, everything is still there in front of us. It's very rare that our division looks like this, but it does this year, and so, you know, I think we'll be at least in it until the end. We still haven't landed on a hairstyle, but... We haven't. He was fresh off bright. He had this hell with all and everything.

We're just rolling the dice out there. Every few months. Are you buying his optimism? Of their chances, no. Because as the Bengals are presently constituted, they won't be any better with him. Now, Flacco falls off. He's going to fall.

Okay. But as they are presently playing, they have scored 80 points in their last two losses. 80. Flacco did have two picks last. last game. Bruce. We have four touchdowns in 500 yards.

Yeah, Bruce. I mean, they scored 42 and 38 in their losses. Like, their problem is not quarterback play. Now, what I will say is this, Brew. This is a little unintentional dig at your Ravens. And also, I think, by happenstance, bad news for your Ravens. Because this is setting up for, if it is true, that he's going to, going to come back after Thanksgiving.

The Ravens on Thanksgiving are going to have to deal with Joe Flacco thinking, this might be my last start of my career on Thanksgiving. I am chucking this sucker deep all game. And then you're going to have to deal with actual Joe Burrow a few weeks later. But no, I think the Bengals are cooked. And I don't think their problem is quarterback play. Well, look, Flacco, I think by my estimation, has one great game left. Well, he's saving for Thanksgiving.

No, but he's going to be this next game, and then he'll turn back into a pumpkin. So by the time they play the Ravens, he'll be throwing the ball to the opposing team. But I'll be honest. I mean, if I'm Joe Burrow, he's got the right attitude. Like, it is wide open. I mean, they are two games behind Pittsburgh, who they play.

And, you know, and as someone rooting who picked the Ravens, Yeah, I'm a little more concerned with Flacco, I mean, with Burrow playing. Freudian slip. If Burrow doesn't play, I feel like those are two, you know, they have no room for error, obviously, but those are two games they should win, they should sweep the Bengals. If he plays, now they swept them last year, but it was 41, 38 in overtime, and it was 35, 34. Those were the scores. The Ravens beat the Bengals twice last year, but with Burrow playing, it was separated by

four points in both games. They scored 38 points and lost with Joe Burrow like they did with Joe Flacco two weeks ago. I mean you want to make this a kill Burrow thing but I'm just saying like Burrow makes them a lot more dangerous. He will bring even if you think even if Flagos playing well, Burrow will bring more hope, more belief, more confidence in that locker room. Like they will be I think this Raven still can obviously sweep them. They did it last year. But it makes their road a little bit tougher. I absolutely agree with Joe Burrow.

The division is wide open, just not for them. It's not for them. And to Nick's point, 42 points, 38 points, and 33 points in the last three games. That's a 37.3 average. So what's Joe Burrow going to be good for another field goal? So they'll get to 40. That's not the problem. 30 second in yards.

30 second in points. 30 second in rush yards. 30 in passing yards. 29th in sacks. Tied for 25th and takeways. So they really done a good job there. They made a, I'm just saying they made a push. They were dangerous.

Totally get it. But we're not looking at a team that has not scored a ridiculous amount of points and still found a way to lose. And unlike Baltimore, it doesn't seem like they're getting any better. If anything, they're fine. The play against Chicago to lose the game, I mean, it's just brutal. So that was so bad. But it doesn't seem unfixable. does that make like it's just you're not making tackles

look you want to look you want to this has gone on for a year and a half they have NFL quality players I would think I would I would imagine if you were there you have to try something dramatically different so when you're having this level of bad results over and over again maybe you got to maybe it's got to be

you know, 70% blitz, 60%, but it was something dramatic because how do you want to die? You're bad right now, so why not go take some shots, try to blow up the other team, try to create some havoc with the hopes that you get two or three stops so that your offense can go and win the game because you're just outscore. In fairness, I think that kind of is what they tried against the Jets, which is the only way the Jets can then go score 39 points. You know what I mean? But the fact the matter is they've run out, they fired, they were like, it's Lou Anurubo's fault.

How's he doing an indie? Seems okay. Well, he was terrible last year. No, the players are bad. How can the players be this bad? Somebody's got to be 32nd. It's something to them every year. Well, I mean, they don't change, they didn't change players.

They ran everything back. They said we have this awesome offense, this terrible defense. What if we have this grand strategy of just paying our. our offense players more money. I know it doesn't make sense. The only thing is it feels like other defenses get hurt

and all of a sudden, wow, three guys are out, four guys are out, and there's a next man up mentality. So you have guys who are starting who aren't starters in the league. And they play better than the team. And they play better than the Bengals. It's the culture. I know you

don't like when I say that. It's true. There are teams that have a defensive mentality and a defensive culture, and And they just are good defensive. What do you want to do? They don't care about defense. They pay it all the office of players.

Look, the guys who are on the defense obviously care about the defense and the coaches care about the defense. But it is one of those situations where when you're in a hole this big, it's not a question to just stop digging. Like some people say, you're going to try some different things. And maybe that's why they lost the debts, but you can't just leave it the way it is. I agree. And maybe it's just take some chances.

You've got to take some chances because this way is not working, and you are probably going to put up 30, 35 a game. Just hear me out. Come on, man. We don't have enough time. We've got to get the right there. We're going to say something dumb. Say it.

He's about to say something dumb. Jamar Chase. Put him on. I just said, you can drag the ball. I told you. Guess for time. Jamar? He's going to say something dumb.

And drives a hundred can hurt. Yeah. Not tough enough? Come on. Let's go to the table. Go get him hurt. I saw a look in your eye. I tried to save you.

We got to do something. Then let's just lose, I guess. That's the other option. I'll try a coach's way. Let's just blitz. Sean McDermott was asked about reuniting with former Bill Z.C. and Josh Allen's sculptor from just a raw piece of clay from Wyoming. Brian Dayball.

McDermott, not interested. Digleston. I understand why you're asking that. Brian's a great coach. Unfortunate to see that happen to him. At this point, that's not undercount. under any type of consideration. We've got a really good offensive staff.

You know, they've had really good games. You're going to have some games you want back, some play calls you want back. Those happen. So it's how you respond to them, and I'm fully confident in our offensive staff, and Joe is our leader. Go ahead.

So I have a take for you, coach, but I think you might like, maybe you'll hate. Okay, I can't tell them. There we go. No, but this isn't put your all-pro receiver at Defensive Back because the Patriots did it with Troy Brown once. And Julian. And Julian.

A little bit different. Yeah. Payscale back. All right. So if people don't remember. Tyler Dunn, who I like a lot, I bring up a lot on the show. He is the great substack, Go Long TD. He wrote the long form piece on the Caleb piece was him. He's also the one that wrote the McDermott piece a couple years ago that got a lot of

traction because of the piece of it was the 9-11 reference. But also it talked about the dysfunction within the locker room. and between McDermott and Josh or the offense. And they talked about Brian Dable in it. And here is a reference from it that kind of leads into my tape. Thus, it's impossible not to ask one long time build is a player who's close with all three individuals. One question.

Did Buffalo keep the wrong coach? There's nothing but dead air on the other end of the phone for 13 seconds. Do I need to continue my silence, this player said, or are we? good. So I thought about that when Tyler tweeted it out. Awesome way to respond. Right. Yesterday. And this is, because I mentioned, hey, could they bring him back in the fold?

You bring him back in the fold now, it undermines Joe Brady entirely. You can't do that. Also, seems like there was friction between he and McDermott. He being Brian Daibald. Also, Josh Allen has picked his last two offensive coordinators. Like, he has had a real say in it.

The question I have is this. If the bills don't win the division, which right now they're favored not to do. And if they, for the first time in the Josh Allen MVP-ish era, go out in round one and they fire Sean McDermott. Because I think we all believe they probably would if they lose in round one of the playoffs. Would Brian Dable, head coach of the Buffalo Bills,

be a real possibility? Because Josh Allen loves him and arguably he's played his best football with him. Obviously, Dable would do it. There's not a question there. do you think that is pie in the sky nonsense or something that is on the board of possibilities? Look, I don't rule out anything being a possibility.

The first thing I want to say about friction between him and McDermott. So Brian was with me. He was my assistant in the secondary when we were in New England. Then he was my quarterback coach at the Jets. Then he was the offense coordinator for me at the Browns. He is not a friction guy. He is not a guy that's going to create any kind of problems on a staff. So the idea that there is friction between him and

head coach. That's not how he's wired. It's inconceivable for me to imagine that was the case. Will he defend the things he believes in? Yeah, but he's not going to undermine anything that the head coach is trying to achieve. In terms of him going back there in the short term, I get why people are talking about that, but if anything, he needs to decompress a little bit, get away from football for a while, and then if he wants to go back somewhere, go back a little bit later in the season. I think New England would actually be a great place for him to go back and consult for a while. They're probably going to win the division. And let's say the bills don't want him back. It'd be a nice place to go back to if the bills didn't want you back to

just be like, oh, okay, well, maybe I'll help out here for a little bit. So there's that. In terms of him becoming a head coach in Buffalo, when you do transition head coaches, there is an element of having to sell to the fan base. So it's a little bit tougher sell based off the way that things are gone. But I think Bill's fans love him. Well, well, he, because they feel like he helped Josh become John. I can tell you definitively, nobody loves Buffalo, the city of Buffalo more than Brian Dayball.

He was raised there. He is a proud, you know, Buffaloian. Buffaloan. So he, you know, that would be great from a, you know, hometown hero coming back. It's just whether the, the ownership could sell it. And if you're an owner that doesn't care whether or not, you know, how people, you know, people perceive you and you're going to make the move because you think it's the best. And so be it, Robert Krafted that by hiring Bill Belichick a long time ago when Bill was very much out of favor nationally.

Yeah, no, that Belichick's a great example because, look, I think Dave, he obviously did a very good job his first year with the Giants. And I think he could go somewhere else and do a very good job. but with the bills, you guys know a few years ago I was saying if the bills don't get it done this year, McDermott should go. I think McDermott's a good coach. It seems to me like even if they do go out in the playoffs

again in, you know, bad fashion, they just seem like they are going to keep McDermott to me. Now, maybe I'm wrong. So I think he's there. He obviously said the right thing about we're not considering Dable now. But if they go out in the first, If they just don't make the Super Bowl and the offense is a problem,

I could see getting rid of break. I could see bringing Dayball back as an OC and with Josh. Now, and again, if McDermy ever got fired, then could he, you can't see him as an OC? I don't know. He just doesn't. I just think he's going to try to get a head coaching. He might, but we've seen a lot of former head coaches go back to being coordinators.

And I think that would be the case. And I think coach is right. Nick, it better work. You better win the Super Bowl if you've been. bring in Daebel after how it went with the Giants and you fire McDermott to bring in Daibble. I just, I don't see that happen. Baker says the Bucks are missing the killer instinct. Baker and the Bucks lost fresh off a bye week, now prepping for a trip to Buffalo.

Here's Baker on what's missing from that offense. We're a good team, but to be great, when you score on the opening drive, you know what it looks like, you set the tone, you're not satisfied with it. You come back in your head it's zero, zero, and you go do it again. And right now, I think we're lacking that on offense. And it comes down to me, that's my job to get that fixed. And I will do that. Lacking in terms of hunger.

Killer instinct. Ooh, brew your reaction. Mal reaction? Okay. No, look, I think Baker is being a little harsh on his teammates. And that's his right. He's the team leader. He's the quarterback.

And it is his job to instill that killer instinct into me. He has it, clearly. He's got to instill it into the rest of the guys, okay? But the reason I say he's being harsh is because their losses, coach, they lost to New England. They're not as good as New England. They lost to Detroit. They're not as good as Detroit. They lost to Philadelphia.

They're not as good as Philadelphia. I mean, they are beat. Now they beat Seattle, who I think. San Francisco. Well, San Francisco's playing with their backup quarterback. I'm sorry. And a bunch of injuries elsewhere. The Niners are a good team.

Let's see. I bet they fade in a few weeks. But my point is, they are doing what, they are as good as they are. Like they are, I contend, and if they prove me wrong

and get to the Super Bowl, fine. They are a good team. They are a playoff team. They are not a contender. And it's not Baker's fault. It's just they're not a Super Bowl. Super Bowl contenders.

Killer instinct or not. They're a cute team. So can I rebut that? Yeah. They have two wins over six plus win teams. No team has more. There's a bunch of teams. But it's not, you know, wreck.

Wait, yeah, yeah. No team has more than two wins? Over teams. Over teams that have six wins. Philadelphia? Does not. No team has more. But Phillies beat better teams.

But again, this is because you're doing this weird. No, it's Kansas City better than San Diego. San Francisco? No, yes, they are. I was going to say the pack, like you're giving, I think, Philly extra credit for the Packers wing because you hold the Packers.

But regardless, my point, like, they are, they just played the Patriots. That was a game in the balance in the fourth quarter. Patriots made the plays Tampa Bay didn't. They did not look outclassed in that game. They beat Seattle in Seattle. Seattle right now looks like the best team in football. They have been certainly more injured.

than your average NFL team, and they're six and three. They're going to finish the year, I would imagine, 12 and 5. Like, if that's not a really good team, I don't know what is. And so. Just because of the record? They have. If they're 12 and 5, you think they're going to win in Buffalo? I think that they will split their next two, and then their final six,

they could lose their next to and finish 12 and 5 because of that final 6, which I've been talking about all year. But yeah, I think they will, I think that the rest of the way, they are going to go six and two, which is more than reasonable. Here's what I don't like. I like the fact that it starts with me. So that's a positive. But you're saying killer instinct.

That's such a vague, vague thing as opposed to identifying something specific. He's saying this killer. And what does that mean? What does killer instinct mean? Are you saying that the coaches pull back that get too conservative? The offense coordinator gets too conservative? Is that the killer instinct? As the head coach holding you back, does that get too conservative?

That's what it felt like, right? Like a little bit of a jab. That's like a play calling. If you're talking about killer instinct, that's usually what it implies. But here's all I'll say is why don't you go talk to the quarterback about that? You have the ball every time. If you want to throw it deep, throw it deep. You had 41 touchdowns last year.

Right now you have 16. So if you want to talk about killer instinct, you're right. It does start with you. And maybe let's not talk about vague things that imply, you know, that, you know, that, the coaches or the head coach, whatever. It's just you're creating some unnecessary conflict and that doesn't need to be there. It just doesn't need to be there.

And you have the ball every single time. Go kill. Okay. Man, you sound like Kurt Signetti out here. Coming up next, a fresh edition of Mahomes Mountain. Next on first things first, happy Veterans Day. Live from New York, it's a very happy Veterans Day. It's the second hour of first.

First things first today are the Packers losing contender status. And hold on is LaFleur on the hot seat? Oh, that's interesting. Coach, NFL head coach, since we a job with not great job security. No, I got it. I got it. I'm the Mara family. I'd be like, yes.

So that. Also a special edition of Brew's Ballot. Patrick Mahomes third in Vegas odds, but does he make Bruce Ballot? And I look forward to Roosevelt. But what makes this a special edition? It's always special. That's like my introduction. That's part of his introduction for Bruce Ballet.

Like the ombudsman is, if you like it or not. No, that's gone. It's just special edition. It's always special edition. All right, but it's time now for a special edition, Moles Bell's out. Well, hello there. Believe it or not, we are still on the mountain. This is one of the more luxurious offshoot.

near the summit. Patrick Mahomes is on a by, so taking it easy. So that begs the question, who will be atop of this week's edition of Mahomes Mountain? I don't know. What did you written out there in the logs? Okay. So I have a confession to me. Okay. That wasn't real. But that was you. It wasn't. That was me. Uh-huh. You were really on a mountain? No, I wasn't on a mountain. It was supposed to say it's the guy the who cares if you're explaining you're losing I yeah I'm confused by a lot of the chiefs are on a bye yeah but it's not tears so like bye weekend I is I don't totally understand also is that the ocean it looks very pretty it so it

does the idea that the mountain is behind us it looks like a but Patrick Mahomes because he's on a bye is on the beach Looks like this will be the last time we're doing the AI. Well, yet again. AI, focus on vacuuming. Time. All right, listen. Now that we're past the midway point of the season,

you know what? I'm sure I'm not the only one that's realized this weekend, week out. Not enough good quarterbacks. Sometimes it's because of injury. Sometimes it's because of youth. Sometimes it's because of Bonnicks. But there's not enough good quarterbacks. So a lot of guys.

guys are off the mountain, which has led to some sad vacancies on the mountain. Let's show you who's off the mountain. Burrow, Purdy, Kyler, and Jaden, all off due to injury. Justin Fields is off due to completing six passes. Michael Pinnock's is off due to him playing a standalone national TV game. Bryce, Bryce Young. Not his first week off, but he's off. Gino, again, did him no favors to the 10-7 game on national TV.

J.J. McCarthy, he's off as is his alter eagle, nine. I wouldn't have debuted that one yet, Chief. Dylan Gabriel is off. These guys can all be off. They have. It's just this. KW. They have to be off. How many guys are off?

I have to leave. I'm telling you, they have to be off because here's road. Guys, I had to try to. Listen, Foh Nixon, Trevor's still on. Put some college guys on. No, I got, no, never lived that down. I put college guys on before. I'm tethered to him like an anchor.

Marcus Mariotas back up. Jackson Dirt got knocked out of the game. Kept his spot. Jacoby percent, drop of the ball left and right. Kept his spot. You think I want to put Tyler Shuck and Davis Mills? Davis Mills. On the mountain?

He outplayed the Brooks Mills. But with that said, but this is, I don't love the off row, off area. I don't love seventh row. Sixth row we start to get good, which is why there's vacancies. Oh, God. That has to be. Jordan Love, Drew,

we might have a problem. Aaron Rogers. Doesn't want to get hit. Certainly doesn't want to climb the mountain. Tua, good for you, buddy. A couple picks. One of them I didn't care about it all, third and 11 through a deep fine.

The other one, not great. Still, guys, this is how bad is? CJ Straub didn't play. I just like, you know what to stay where he is. He's going to be back. He's no injury. All right, but now, Now, top 15 is where we get good.

So the bottom of the league's bad. Mid part's not great, but now we get good. Dak, drop a bit just because people moved up around. Caleb clutch for the second straight week, back-to-back touchdown drives to win the game. Joe Flacco, week to rest. And now he's like, man, Joe, bro, I hope your toe feels better to hold my clipboard, buddy. Mac Jones is just cooking. Like this says Mac Jones.

Oh, yeah, it does. It does say Mac Jones. I don't mean it to, but it does. Mac Jones is out there cooking. Daniel Jones, you know, the first three years of his career, he averaged more fumbles per game than any player in the history of the league.

The last couple weeks it's come back a bit, but Jonathan Taylor's made it not matter. There it is. Now to the top ten. Don't get mad of me, KW. I don't know what to do about your guy, Jalen Hertz. I'm not going to die on. They just don't have a sustainable offense week to week.

And they do for a week, but then they don't. It's weird. Come playoff time. It will be good. Justin Herbert, I thought, played a great game Sunday night and deserves credit for it. And I know the Herbert Truthers would tell us that's what he's going to be the rest of the year. I'm excited to see it. Jared Goff with Dan Campbell whispering in his ear the plays.

Throw it to Jamir Games. Throw it to James and Williams. It worked really well. And Baker, despite when did this show? become such an anti-Baker show. Coach is like he's doing a kute tag and Todd Bowles. Brew's like their cute little team. I mean, that was.

Baker's playing great. That was harsher than I expected. I got to tell you. All right, now the interesting part. Top six. Josh Allen's got to drop. Fair is fair. The turnover is a terrible loss.

I expected Brew Lamar to move up going into this weekend. I thought that if someone moved down, Lamar would move up, but he didn't play poorly, but he hasn't played great yet since I know this first game back, he had four touchdowns. He was, which is where he got where he was, but this past weekend's Minnesota is fine. Sam Darnel moves up. That team is just a juggernaut, and he's been excellent. Top two rows, second row. Wow.

It's rare you get to move up in a by week, but Josh Allen moves down. Lamar doesn't do much. Darnall moved up. Jalen Hurts. didn't Jalen Hertz, does, scored seven points. Good to have the mountain named after you,

I guess. Patrick Mahomes moves up. Drake May stays where he is. And atop the mountain for the second straight week, it's been a while since we've had the same guy on the mountain back-to-back weeks.

Really? Other than Patrick. Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford, who is having close to a perfect season so far. Not a perfect season, but close to a perfect season. And if it were voted on today,

I think would get 80% of first place MVP votes. He remains atop Mahomes Mountain. Coach? That is a wild mountain. I know. To go with a wild season. First of all, you should put Bryce Young back on the mountain. I don't like that at all.

But the fact that you have Flacco, Mack Jones, and Daniel Jones, above Jordan, Love, Aaron Rogers, Tua, Stroud. Like, who would ever think going into the season that would be the case? So that's really interesting. But where I'm going to focus is the top of the mountain. And it's obvious that Patrick Mahomes would be down with the other former MVP's. That's where he was last week.

That's exactly where he should be again and Sam Darnold should move up. And let's just, I know it's a rich tapestry, so I want to make sure that I integrated all the elements. So let's just look at the last game each of these two guys played. Well, that's unfair. Is it, is it though?

I mean, it's one guy's bet. You move the guy up with a 44.1 completion percentage. Hold on, that's incorrect. That's incorrect. You left him alone? No, no, no. I dropped him after that game. They were on a buy this. Well, guess what? Drop him further because that's terrible.

And the other guy played pretty well. Now, he didn't have a lot of completions. He didn't need to. They scored 44 points. But here's the last game they played. And you're probably saying, well, Buffalo, they're pretty good defensively. Well, then Tua went and ate him up this week. So I guess maybe they're not that good defensively, even though they smoked Patrick Mahomes.

But, okay, it's a rich tapestry. Let's look at the last five game between these two guys. Oh, my. Okay, here we go. Oh, four and one, three and two, 71, 71. point nine, six to seven point two. Go right on down the line and Sam Donald's played better. I get it

the mountains named after him, but put him with the other former MVP's who are struggling at this point and you can call that like, you know, whatever. Give it some cute name that you guys make up in the back room. No, that's the committee and tears. But I'm just saying, we don't have name here. You can miss me.

Coach. Trollma homes down with Alan Lamar. They're all struggling in their own separate way. And Drake May gets graded up because he's young and he's having a great season. and he's the flavor. It's great. Exactly. And so is Sam Donald right now.

He's great. I moved him up. Yeah. Move him up to where he belongs. Do you know how hard it is to move up two rows in one week? Everybody knows that. Just put him down with the other former MVP's and they can all have a, they can cook marshmallows and walk up together. It is a rich tapestry.

Yes. But everybody knows about Mahomes Mountain. While it is easy to drop multiple rows in a week, it is much like climbing a mountain. You could climb for hours. and then slip for a second, you'll be way down. But you can't all of a sudden, right, hold on. But you can't all of a sudden jump rows. No.

You left guys on with five. Mahomes, Mahomes was on the top of the mountain. After that game with Buffalo, he slipped from the very top to the third row. That's what happened. Sam Darnold was in the fourth row, had this great week, moved up to the third row. Somebody from row three needed to move up to row two. It couldn't have been Jalen Hurts after that game. No.

It couldn't have been Lamar. Patrick. This is, golf was on row five. This is the worst logic to defending Patrick Mahal. Have you ever climbed it? I'm with you.

Yes, I've climbed several restaurants to get a buffet. I'm with you on that way. And you hinted a little bit at where I'm going. Now, I said earlier, J-Lo has been struggling. Oh, no. But J-Lo is too low.

All right, you just move them up. All five. You look at all five of the quarterbacks on the row ahead of J-Lo. Dak, Caleb, Flacco, Mac Jones. J-Lo has a better passer rating than all of them. He's eighth in the league and pass-er rating. J-Lo has the second fewest interceptions than all of them. In fact, all of them except Caleb have twice as many interceptions as J-Lo.

J-Lo's got three. The Caleb's got four. The rest of them have at least six. All right. So J-Lo, I know he stroked the last two weeks. Okay, then that's- But hold on. Oh, really?

Because Daniel Jones has seven turnovers in the last two weeks. How is he still ahead of J-Lo? Joe Flacco had two interceptions in his last game. They scored 40. That Prescott has one touchdown and three interceptions in his last two games. He fell. So I'm just saying everybody, they're all struggling. And Nick, this is a stat I know you love, yards per attempt.

Of the five guys ahead of J-Lo, including him, he has the second best yards per attempt of any of those six. So J-Lo is too low. I rest my case. Are any of their five coaches potentially getting fired because of their performance this year? Because that's what J-Lo's coaches says. That's on the floor, if that's the case. Any of the other quarterbacks in the row above thrown a touchdown in the last two weeks? Daniel, how many seven turnovers, Wilds?

Seven. At least, but Daniel Jones, listen, he was awful in the Steeler game. He was not awful in the Berlin game. He wasn't very good. He was not awful. And they. J-Lo wasn't awful. When was J-Lo not awful?

Was he awful last night? They scored seven points. That's a team. I'm not saying he was good. I'm just saying he wasn't awful. He wasn't Patrick Mahomes awful versus the Buffalo Bills. He wasn't that awful. He completed more than 44% of his passes.

That's kind of a little bit. It's not fair. It's not fair. Thank you, Coach. They often scored seven points. They got points off the board because he fumbled in the scoring zone. They couldn't pick up a what? I just told you, Daniel Jones has seven turnovers of last.

He had two turnovers his last game, five the week before. I understand. I get it. I'm not saying J-Lo played well. I'm just saying there are a lot of guys who played off. I know he's your MVP pick. This is not the weak to defend J-Lo. No, he should move up.

That's all I'm saying to the next row. KW., I don't know what you're doing. I intentionally didn't look at it. If this is a Drake-Mathan, I'm going to be very disappointed. It's kind of a Drake-Math. Gosh, darn it, man. But I'm not talking about Drake-R-B. I'm not talking about Drake-M.

Can someone on W-E-E-I, please just book a thing? I'm not talking about Drake, May. Go ahead. Okay. I am talking about Josh Allen. Okay, great. Do I want Josh Allen to move down? Not necessarily.

Further. No, because I don't know who to move up. Maybe golf? Herbert. Nah, I'm not really a Herbert guy. I'm more of a golf guy. Just based on recent, I put a lot of emphasis on recency of on the mountain.

That's why I like things can, I like, I like, a more volatile man. Mountain. Josh has got a lot of reputational momentum. I see it when I see the Bill's power rankings, when we have to name the top quarterbacks when you watch get up in the morning. I'm just saying there's a lot of reputational momentum there. I get it. The guy has been great. He's the reigning MVP. Here are the ranks this year. No funny business, just straight up. They're six and three. That's eight. That's not good. He's lost three of his last five games.

Passing yards, 13th, a little bit funky because he's had some games where he hasn't had to do a lot. Touchdown interception. I do think you want to throw the ball. 15 touchdowns, five interceptions. That's 15. Passer rating, seventh best. Fine. But I don't think we all have to continue to genuflect at the altar of the reigning MVP. The other thing is, let's look from last year's first nine games to this year. And last year wasn't like an amazing statistical season. He had four turnovers. This year he had seven.

Sacked 11 times. This year's 20. He was 3 in 0 the division. Now he's 2 and 2. I'm not saying necessarily moving down, maybe flopping with golf. But I would just like to have people deal with the Josh Yollen that we're currently seeing and not the one that people are used to seeing. This is also an early shot at Danny Parkins, top 10 Tuesdays that I go.

Well, I'll let Danny deal with that in an hour. I have a question for you, KDW. Because let me first say this. I appreciate that. That is in the spirit of the mountain. Yeah. It is well researched. It threw the audience.

Like, oh, I didn't expect him to do that. So I liked it. So now, I'll give you an opportunity to do what I think you really want to do. Up to this point in the season, who has been the best quarterback in the AFCEs? It's not, I'm not. I don't. I'm just asking a question. I don't even feel like I need to answer that.

I think you do. Oh, who's taller? You know, Wembe or Valcunis? Just look at it. That's it. It is obvious. We've played head to head and we are better. One person completes more passes to the other guy's old wide receivers.

So I just, I don't have a bunch of stats ready. No, I wasn't actually you have stats ready. I was trying to set. I think it's. obvious. That this, right. That Drake May has outplayed Josh Allen this year. I agree with you, which leads me to my bigger

question, which you don't have to answer right now, but I think is an interesting one. Moving forward, who do we think the best quarterback in the AFC East is going to be? I think it's an open question. I know coach is going to say I'm too far ahead of it. I think that is an open question.

As Drake May said after the game, I'm just worried about Thursday right now, but I appreciate the question. Yeah, that's because Is it game to be a board? Your job is to give opinions. No. I am totally focused on Thursday. I'm locked in on. Okay, great job, KW.

Who do we play after that? Not even sure. Probably someone terrible. Yeah, of course. All I'm worried about is Thursday. Coming up next. Jets and Bengals. Yeah, it is the Bengals.

I'll better win both. That's on fire right now. Nine years in a row? That's on fire. Okay, this is not. You know what? This also was. The first huge L for Gianni Hubs.

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Packers defense looked good last night, held the champs to 10 points, but also dropped to 5-3-1. Micah Parsons, not stressed. Take a listen. They should have hope. I mean, like, it would be different if we're being blown out in fashions of, like, this is like in despair, like we can't win these type of games. We just got to get back to the basics and do what we have to do.

But, I mean, I wouldn't panic at all. we're going to win a lot for what? Like the way we just played, we're going to win a lot of football games. So I would not panic. I would have stressed. We're going to win football games, I promise you. I like that.

Bruce, should he be concerned? He should be concerned. I like what he said. I mean, that's what I want to hear from one of our leaders. You don't want to hit the arm button right now, but they got to get that offense together. Defense is great. I mean, it's not perfect.

They gave up 40 to the Cowboys. But in their losses, coach, 16 points, 13. points, 10 points. They should win those games. And it's his boy. I mean, it seemed like him and Jordan Love were close when he went over to the team. Jordan's got to play better. I mean, as much as I thought he should have moved up on the mountain,

he still has to play much better football. There's no doubt about it. He's never been vindicated quickly. No, I think he should have moved up. But they, he has to be more consistent. And that's his main problem. Like, I, as a fan of his, have no idea. I know the Packers have no idea which Jordan love they're going to get.

And his highs are very high. His highs are as high as anyone in the league for the most part. And he does it enough where it's not just like a flaco having a great game. You know what I mean? Like he does it enough where you know he has that potential, but he has too many just J-No games. And yesterday was clearly one of them. So that's their main,

the offense altogether, the offensive line. I hated losing Tucker Kraft. I think that's a big part of his demise these last two games. And the receivers, look, they did drop a couple balls. Their receiving core hasn't been as good as I've expected it to be. I thought they dropped a few last night. And so, you know, but there's no excuse. They have a team capable, I believe, of reaching the Super Bowl

if Jordan Love and the offense gets it together. I really enjoy the fact that Mike has been. become the new Aaron Rogers of Green Bay and telling everybody to just relax. Just relax, you know. I think that's, I think that's really good. And, you know, he's 13th in league in sacks. That's pretty good, you know, 13th in the league in sacks. And then let's see, I don't know if you've heard this before it was, but to whom much is given, much is expected. So here's what Micah did with the Cowboys is 4.1 tackles per game, 20.8 pressure percentage. He's lower than that. 3.3 sack percentage. He's lower than that. So, so I get it. You know, there's a lot of things that they can do

offensively, but you also need to go affect the game more than you're affecting the game. That's why you were brought there. And I don't know if 13th in the league of Sacks is, is necessarily what they expected from you. And maybe he's getting, what, quadruple teamed? These other guys, Miles Garrett's pretty good. I see him get blocked a lot by a lot of different guys. But he needs to do more two because they've only won two games. No, I mean, he's got to Miles Garrett must be, imagine how bad he must be. Miles Garrett isn't talking about relaxed. We're going to win a lot of games.

No, he's demanding trades. He's demanding trades. He's a realist. And he's also holding up his end of the bargain. He's number one in the league in the second. So if Michael was, you know, if Michael was the best defensive player in the league, and he was talking about, you know, that's the second best. Well, is he, though?

I mean, I certainly are, you able. He hardly was as good as when he was at Dallas. No, so again, coach, hold on. He is one big game away. If he is three pressure percentage points off and 0.9 sack percentage off, he has won two sack game and eight pressure game away from being exactly in line. What weeks do we wait for that? Weeks 17?

Well, no. I mean, this is, listen, I think this is crazy. I think the throw up. Of course it is because you love Michael Parsons. No, it's because I watch the games. Oh, okay. And the pack, if you look at this, show the under 17 point losses. If you look at this and you say the Packers problem is the defense.

The whole league has eight losses when the defense allows 17 or fewer points, or less than 17 points, pardon me. Packers got three of them. One of their losses that was when they allowed 13 points to Cleveland, and by the way, the defense only really allowed six because the one touchdown Cleveland scored was on the J-Lo pick that was. returned to the four-yard line. The defense was awful in the Cowboys game.

Aside from that, the defense week in, week out, has done its job. Period point blank. By any team defensive metric, they've been excellent, by points allowed last night holding the Philadelphia Eagles to 10 points and zero points in the first half, the defense held up its end. The concern is the only. offense. And so yes, I think Micah should be concerned. But I think it is absolutely bananas to watch last night's football game. Watch Sequin. We were like, oh, Sequin might be back.

He had the big game, and he's coming off a buy. And I know Micah can't, any defense with Micah Parsons against the run, it's just going to be a Sib. Well, we can't use this. We can't use the Sequin Barclay as a measuring stick based off the season is that. No. That would have been a really good argument last season. The coach, they allowed 10 points and you're saying the defense needs to do more. I just, I think when you have a $50 million a year

quarterback and an offensive head coach, you should expect to win the games that you allow fewer than 17 points, instead they've lost three of them. The rest of the NFL combined has lost five. I don't know how we blame the defense

for that. I just don't. I'm not blaming the defense. I'm saying that as the player that he was brought in to be, when you're 13th in the league in sacks and when your production's down versus the team you were just at, you'd think there's some room there for improvement. You want him to say, I need to do better? What's that? Because I thought this was, I thought this quote was a vote of confidence for the offense.

Yeah. Yeah. I actually, I didn't take it as a shot, did you? It felt like when we play like this defensively, yeah, we're going to win a lot of games. it didn't feel like necessarily an endorsement of the offense. Oh, I thought, see, I took it as like, yeah, we'll be good. Yeah, I didn't think you, I definitely didn't think he was taking a shot at the offense. I thought he was being very diplomatic.

And like I said, I liked what he said. The, want to hear my quick Teddy Bruske story? Sure. Oh. Teddy, it was a similar game like this that the Patriots, Patriots lost. Teddy Bruskey wasn't on the team. And I had the same thing. I was like, what are you going to do?

I mean, we've got to score some points. Teddy Bruce, he's like, what? I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, you know, the defense held up there into the bargain. Like, hold them to zero. Yeah. I was like, Teddy Brucey. You're the best. Moving on, that's for the Eagles.

End of the game, fourth and six. Philly decides to go for it to ice the game. Incomplete to A.J. Brown. Troy was befuddled on the broadcast. Green Bay ended up getting a shot to win. It actually got a test kick, which I guess is allowed. Just. Sure, just try one out.

Siriani, however, no regrets. Don't regret that at all. Wanted to be able to end the game. Played in, you know, it didn't work this time. Sometimes that happens. And, you know, but I got a lot of faith in sending those guys back out there. It's just, it's just insane. It's just insane.

And I think we'll agree on this one after disagreeing on my God. I think we're going to agree on that. Oh, well, that, it's, first of all, I want to just make this clear. clear for the folks that use analytics as the boogeyman about, you know, what's happened to football, every single analytical model hated this decision. So this was not him going, usually analytics encourage aggressiveness. This was one of the rare instances where all the analytical models were punt that ball. Go ahead and punt that ball. And it felt to me like he was trying to prove a point at the expense of close to guaranteeing a win.

You have 33 seconds. The other team has no timeouts. If you punt the ball, your worst realistic scenario is they have the ball at the 20. 15 yards, you know, further back than where they are. And those 15 yards obviously matter. That first play after this coach, they had a screen open to Josh Jacobs play.

and Jacobs turned the wrong way. And it was this close to, oh, man, like they could have gotten in field goal range right there. They ended up, it turns out, two yards short of field goal range. I know the actual field goal was missed badly. The practice field goal came, you know, like two yards short. I just, it is, that is a baffling game management decision

and the scenarios that he compared it to, none of them were up three, 30 seconds less. against a team that scored seven points and have zero timeouts. I just, I feel like he's one of the only coaches in the league that would have said throw the ball there rather than punt the ball there. Well, in fairness to him, there have been multiple games this season where teams have gotten the ball back with 30 seconds. They complete two passes and they're kicking a field goal because the distance that field goal

kickers are making have increased substantially. Now, they could have, isn't that an argument for punting? Well, but they could have kicked. field goal there too potentially because their kicker is I think he's three for four from 50 plus and he's his long of 61 so he's actually had a pretty high success rate so that you could potentially go that way too and this scenario he threw one out he threw to their best offensive player one-on-one with post-safety defense and really this should be past interference if you look at the end of this the defensive back never turns around you have to turn back to play the ball but he doesn't

It's a player. But he runs, he hits the player before the ball ever gets there. He runs into him with his, he doesn't even have his watch. Right there, he's making contact with the receiver without looking back. I don't know. But it's the defensive back's responsibility to look back for the ball. So that could have easily been called for pass interference. I would have probably thrown the speed out versus off coverage here, but they went,

they went isolated one-on-one, took a shot. Hold on. Please, coach. be honest with me here you would not have thrown the speed out because you if you were in charge you would have punted the ball

yeah look I probably would have yes okay but but what on but this play right here should have I think worst case scenario been pass interference well AJ's got to play through him and and if he had hit

if he had hit this the whole world would be like what a great job going out to win the narrative is always based on whether the play succeeds or fails. And you might have been one of the few people who would have said this was a poor decision. If this had hit or been a pass interference, 90% of people talking about the game would have been like, yeah, that's great that he was willing to go close out the game.

That shows, you know, all the same narrative that you hear when a play works. Had it worked, it would have been like, look at his aggressiveness, you know, his guts and all that. That's what makes Siriani different. I get it. I would have either kicked a field goal or punt. It's still a. I think a field goal would have been crazier. It's still a long field goal.

I won't think it would have been crazier than that. But I think it's still a long field goal. So I probably would have punted it. But there is, look, I get that the defense and the defense knows let's not intercept it. But like you alluded to earlier, a lot of players would forget that. And so you could, he, I'm not sure Siriani wasn't thinking, let's go deep. If it pops great, at worst, they may intercept. intercept it and then it's like an arm punt.

I don't doubt that he might have thought that. Do you guys also not see the volume of contact before the ball against AJ Burr? No, I think that is. I mean, the DB isn't looking back at all. The DB is not looking back. He literally engaged with AJ Brown. It happens.

Underthrown. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the way, the only way you get that call is if you play through the DB and AJ Brown didn't do it. If I was a referee, like fourth and six, I'm not throwing this flag. Well, this is a sidebar. The underthrown pass leading to DPI, of all the rules they want to adjust in the offseason, one of them will be the tush push thanks to plays like this from yesterday, or not this, but the one again yesterday, coach is here, so I have to do my weekly.

They got away with another false start on the tush push. They did, I mean, it was really bad. And then Green Bay got called on. Well, that's the, it's been weird. They don't call everybody. So that's what I was, Dustin. That was one of the first times last night where I was like, all right.

Dust, can we play the two full starts instead of this for a second? I mean, I wish the NFL would address the how punitive should DPI on an underthrown ball be. Because it's a strategy. It could be a strategy. Or like you can make the call. Yeah. And so this somehow, they get away with it. This is, and it was, and that live.

by the way, you could see. That one looked bad. That one was bad. And then Green Bay is like, we have a fourth in inches. That one they see. Green Bay isn't as bad. Not nearly as bad. I mean, it's mad.

No, you could see it, but it wasn't. It's just maddening to see the juxtaposition of, if you try to run a real football play, you better have, Green Bay popped a big play, and it's like, no, sorry. The guy who declared eligible was covered up on the line of script. If you want to run a real football play, everything's got to be perfect. Right.

You got to be perfect. Yeah. Oh, teammates. Like, what are you doing? But if you want to run that rugby play, it's just all, no holds bar. Unofficial a bowl. Yeah. Coming up next, a fresh special edition of Brew's ballot.

Ooh. Can't wait for this. A lot of changes. Ooh, I'm excited. Not really. What's up? Okay. Lieutenant Colonel Steve Stone Cold Austin.

42nd Regional Support Group, currently deployed in the Middle East. Go Ravens. This is our year. Yeah, it is. We are so back. Happy Veterans Day to everyone. Chiefs Broncos this Sunday. Now, in Vegas Brew, Patrick Mahomes has the third best MVP odds.

Coach wants them down on the aisle. But let's see if that's reflected in this week's edition of Brew's ballot. This will be a great. Well, look, remember, Vegas is projected. Yeah, that's correct. Mahomes is not third right now. But at number five, Jackson Smith Injigba. Now, I was seriously debating coach between him and Darnel.

But I went with Injigba. He is no longer on pace for 2,000 yards receiving. It's close enough, but he still is on pace to break the all-time record of Calvin Johnson by three yards. And he's barely off-paced for 2,000. Yeah, yeah. He's just on pace for like 19. One big throw away, baby. Right, right.

So he's at number five. Number four, Jared Gough. This might be his first time on the ballot, if I'm not mistaken. But he, look, he's the only the, he's the second or one of two quarterbacks to have 20 or more touchdown. Stafford's got 25. He's got 20, and he's only got three picks second in the league and passer rating as well. He's been flying under the radar. A little bit.

But as the season plays out, your overall statistics become more of a factor. His are great. All right. At number three, running back Jonathan Taylor. Love it. Love it. Hey, he's on pace for, again, not 2000, but close. And he's had four games at his fourth game Sunday with three or more touchdowns,

or with three touchdowns rushing. That's huge. He clearly, you watch that team. How many total touchdowns has he ever, rushing? Do you know? I don't know the total. But he's got, yeah, he's had three, he's on pace to challenge the record. That's what I was going to say, because nobody has come close to Ladani's touchdown record since he said it.

Like it's the, it was, it's 31 by L. Ladenian and no one's come within like five of it since he's said. A great guy and a great team. Yeah, no. And he's at 17 total touchdown. 17? Yeah. He's close. Yeah.

All right. At number two, your boy, Wiles. Thank you. Drake May. Just keeps chugging along. two or more touchdowns in his last five games. Drive straight. Didn't get the 100 pass a rating like you had been tracking,

but still had a good game and a win, obviously. And at number one, everybody's All-American. Wow. Matthew Stafford. He's having a phenomenal year. There's no doubt about it. 25 touchdowns on pace now for 47. So he's doing this thing.

This will be a real test, Ram Seahawks. I'll get into it later this week, but I guess I'm starting it now. it's either going to be, oh, the Seahawks might be going to the Super Bowl and this defense is 100% real or Stafford takes another step closer if he shreds Seattle. It's v. Shred in Seattle. It might be over. Well, it's never, we all, it's never over. But so, Brew, great ballot.

Thank you. Our, you know, I'd just do my own in my head. I write it down too. Our one, two, three was the exact same. So here was the question I was in, because I had J.S.N. 4th and Darnel 5th. It's like, ah, you kind of like what the CMC Christian McCaffrey, or CMC Brock Bertie thing.

Two Seattle guys. A couple years ago when they both were in contention, but neither at the very top, just because I think Darnold, to coach's point, I do think he's been better than golf. And I think that you looked at it probably as only going to have one Seahawk. I have looked at it like. And I think that's,

It's not a rule, but it's something. You've got to be two guys that are. It's got to be like Warner and Falk. You current Warner and Marshall Falk to. And I do expect, I mean, I personally don't expect that it'd be great if he did. I don't expect J.S.N. to stay on this pace. So I think Darnel will probably emerge more as their MVP. All the bruised ballots, has the running back ever been in the one spot?

Was last week, Taylor? What was it saying? Last week, oh, he was not rated? Yeah. I have somebody number one. I think you did have Jonathan Taylor number one a couple weeks ago. Maybe two, three weeks ago. I feel it's a little bit like all the other MVP bouts where they get in the mix,

that they never quite get that one of five. You know my, the NFL would be wise to take my suggestion on this. Create a Cy Young Award for quarterbacks. Call it the time, Brady, or whatever you want to call it. But create a quarterback award that's as, as prestigious as the MVP. Any MVP is whatever. For anybody. I mean, because you're right, it has just become.

So I do, it's a rich tapestry, but I do try to keep in mind. Saquan might have been in the one spot at some points last year. And two weeks ago, he had Jonathan Taylor number one. Oh, he did? But he fell off because the cult's lost. What I, here's what I think is really interesting for you Wilds this week. The reason Drake May has better MVP odds than Stafford right now is because Vegas is, is approaching it as if the Patriots are winning their division,

and Stafford might be a wild card. If Stafford wins this week and they over Seattle and they get a firm hold on the division, I think Stafford, no matter what, leaps over Drake May. If the Seahawks win, almost no matter how Drake plays, I think he might be the Vegas favorite for MVP next year. I'm uneasy. Well, you should be.

Also, that guy over your, that guy who's in third in Vegas right now, was going to be on national TV against an allegedly great defense. We will see. Yeah, I mean, he'll have a chance. He'll have a chance to make a statement. That'll be good. Yeah. Coming up next, Nico Harrison fired.

What's next for Cooper Flagg and the Mavs we discussed next on First Things First? It's a great new. The show, it's wishing a very happy Veterans Day. It's First Things First overtime on today's show. Did the Bills lost to the Dolphins? also lose them a spot in Danny's top 10. It is top 10 Tuesday that's coming up in about 17 minutes. Meanwhile.

Joe Burrow. They were number one. They were number one. Yeah. Joe Burroughs back in talking playoffs. How optimistic should we all be? We're just talking trash off there and on the list. But right now, love hurts.

I get it. Eagles Packers, Monday night, with a little Thursday. Thursday night vibes. Yeah, because it was 10-7, like Thursday night. That is a good. Both QBs under 200 yards. Everybody lost a fumble, but Jalen got the win. Here he is on the team victory.

Take it listen. It's a big, big time win. That's a big testament to our team. Defense play lights out. And I feel like when there was a mishap, we had each other's backs. And that's all you can ask for. And so I'm proud of how we competed. I'm proud of how we weather.

it through and persevered. I think we show great resilience throughout this game and that's a hell of a team we played. Did this game say more about the Eagles or the Packers, Danny? The Packers? Brew, I've been trying to tell you about your guy. You don't even have him in the playoffs. They'll make the playoffs most likely, but he's going to be the reason why they lose. It wasn't good. And it hasn't been good. Like, he is the reason that you can't trust them, and he was again last night. And you've set it all show, and you're right. Like, if you score 13 against Cleveland, you have to win, except he was the exact reason they lost with that interception. If you give up 16 to Carolina, you have to win. But he was the reason they lost with the interception and could have had that

pick six across the body. Then last night, you give up 10. I'm not sure he's going to get it. Like, he looks skittish, happy feet, doesn't feel the rush around him. Like you say, like, oh, that guy has, like, eyes in the back of his head. Not Jordan Love. And the number discrepancy of him in the wins and the losses is just stark. Like, it's, they lose because of Jordan Love. And it is just that clear and that black and white.

Scoring 10 points per game in losses is just not good enough. And they'll make the playoffs. I was wrong about that. But come Wildcard weekend or the divisional rounds, they'll lose because of him. Not necessarily. Because the problem with Jordan, I agree with you,

he is maddingly, if that's, if I's proper, maddeningly. Yeah. Maddeningly inconsistent. Maddeningly inconsistent. Yeah.

But his highs, and this is why we expect so much, or maybe you don't, but others expect more from him because he has had long stretches of great play and in his first playoff game to go into Dallas when they had won like what 16 straight at home then what happened to the next playoff game right so but I'm saying he may get on a hot streak in the playoffs you know but I do agree that he is right now their big the offense in the office, I'm seeing their receiving group has not been as good as I expected.

So that is more of a problem than I thought. He is the number one because the offense is on the quarterback, period. But the O line isn't giving them a lot of protection. And it looks like Elton Jenkins is hurt bad. Yeah. And that's another. Tucker Kraft killed him when he got hurt. But Jacobs, like, they're not running well against light boxes.

You know, so the offense as a whole is just not been what we expect. expected. But it's fair to put it on love. But I just think he is up and down. He's not quite what Josh, you know, Allen was with the roller coaster because his is more, oh, he'll be great. Then he's down for a while. But the one, he's not turning the ball over a ton. He has critical turnovers. And the problem in this, what you said about Allen, is he's not combating those turn, that one bad turnover game or whatever with a couple of great offense. offensive plays, like down the field or anything. So he's going to have to improve.

There's no doubt about it because with him playing like he has the last two games, they can't get to the Super Bowl. So I want to talk about the Eagles, but I want to just revisit some of the Packers real quick. I'm surprised that you are just saying they're going to make the playoffs. Like in this regard, Eagles are obviously in. The Bucks are obviously in division-wise, even if you don't think they're good. Those teams are in. We all, we assume all of us, I think, that Seattle and the Rams are not going to collapse and that Detroit's not going to collapse.

There's five in. That leaves two spots. There is Green Bay. There is San Francisco. And there is Chicago. Yep. And they obviously play each other twice. Right.

And so I, one of those teams is going to be left out. For me, at this point, San Francisco is, I know they're on a backup quarterback. But he's played after the season. and he's played at a high enough level, I don't think their quarterback's going to kill him. So they're going to be in the mix. Like to me, Chicago's, no, but I'm just saying, like, Green Bay should make the playoffs. But if you lose three games when you allow less than 17 points,

what's going to happen the game when they lose a game where the offense does perform, but the defense has a game like it has against Dallas? Right. Like that. Listen, I obviously think the Bears can beat them. They beat them in Week 18 last year. They lost to them on a blocked field goal in the middle of the season last year. So those games will be tough.

NSD, N-SY North games are tough. Niners' offense, Niners' defense, Bears' offense, Bears' defense, Packers' defense. I think the best unit is the Packers' defense. I agree with that. And so that's why I think they're probably safe. It's just he's got a $220 million contract. Well, that's – he has to be better. Yeah, I think you're – I mean, he's still eighth in the league in pass rating.

He's 13 touchdowns, three picks. There's not enough touchdowns, but the ratio is pretty good. Like, I don't think he's been as bad as you've said, but I think he's had games as bad as you're saying. But overall, I think he's been fine, but he's got to be better. Real quick, for he, move on, because we just beat up on Bruce's NFC Super Bowl pick. You a little worried about your Eagles offense?

You know what? Not college football. Get the win. And back to Philadelphia. But as my two teams, you know what we also need to do? Tell me. I'm ready to revisit my Super Bowl pick at some point. Not yet, but my all birds.

Well, he wants to, I mean, here's the thing. I do think he should brew. If anyone's allowed, wild switching out the Patriots. Or the Chiefs. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. You can only do it. You had Chiefs Patriots.

No, no. Ravens. I have it all birds. He wants to abandon the Ravens. He wants to abandon the Ravens. I want to kind of abandon the Ravens and also just like narratively for the show. I'm just kind of like,

but then also KW. You already are a page. You also kind of want to abandon the Eagles. No, I don't. KW. No, I don't like, you

don't like, they scored 10 points. You don't like that. It'd be a reasonable time to abandon it. The three and out rate is crazy. That's not, did you see this graphic that he put up? I saw the graphic, gross. They go three and out 32% of the time

it's the most in the league. They also run the ball. This is courtesy of Greg Rosenthal on NFL daily. They run the ball on third and long, a higher percentage of time than any team the last 25 years. Third and long.

Yeah, just give like third and 12. We're not even going to try to. Oh, so we're giving up. That's not like a get into tush push range. Well, I mean, third and long is third and more than seven. So that would be pretty optimistic. Maybe that plays a small part of it. Yeah.

But third and long, they're like, whatever, we're just going to punt. That's what teams do who have young, quarterbacks and great defenses are like we don't, but that's not who Jalen hurts is. The offense is just weird. It's very strange. I expect them a little bit to steal a storyline from Brew. I expect the offense to round into form. Yeah.

We unfortunately are getting later in the season. They have offensive culture, offensive DNA. Yes, they have offensive DNA. Is it getting late early? I'll have something to say about the Eagles in a little while. Oh. Oh, my goodness. Wow.

Oh, okay. That's a tease. Let's head to Dallas. Rough weekend. No. We're holding, that is Dallas? Yeah, that's Dallas. Sorry.

And why is my script talking about hearing around? We didn't have any video that Nico smiling. No. I mean, mugging every scene. That's like eight pictures. That's my favorite one. We should get one happy one. All right.

So obviously, Nico. Harrison was fired. How did the mouth bounce back from this? Well, they finally can start. They can finally start bouncing back. It was it's yeah 282 days since they traded Luca and we all knew within 2.8 seconds that they were going to have to fire Nico Harrison and I think right now a lot of us are in like what was the score of the game maybe we're watching NBA games when there aren't football games on, checking highlights. Like, that game last night should have been an important night in Maverick's history, like for their future.

Last night, Cooper Flagg tied LeBron James to be the youngest player in NBA history to have a game with more than 25 points. 18 years and 254 days old, whatever it is. And they were cheap. So they're the same date? To the day? To the day. Well, it's a weird one.

So LeBron had set, go ahead, I'm sorry. No, but it's, to the day, to the day, youngest player in NBA history to have a game where he scored more than 25, and they're chanting fire Nico during the best game of Cooper Flagg's career. And Patrick Dumont, the new governor owner, whatever they're calling him, this was mid-game.

He's talking to a guy in a Luca Lakers jersey. This was probably. set up too because that kid flipped him off and it was like an apology i'm not sure but i think the reporting around that was a little okay well light picture pictures worth a thousand words like it it was just it's cast a pall over everything like the cooper flag era hasn't felt like it could really begin until they fire nico harrison and now they've done that i hear you and i don't disagree with a lot of that i do and cooper i think is going to be a great player so do i really do I do think had he come in, which is unrealistic, to be honest,

but had he come in and just taking the league by storm and averaging 20 points right now instead of 15, maybe you would have felt this could start, you know, it could start with Nico. But the bottom line is to move on, they need to look at trading Anthony Davis. He's played 14 of the 44 games there. See if you can find a team that feels like it's close. that AD could get us over the hump. And then I also think you probably got to look to try to trade Kyrie. Definitely.

But Kyrie is going to be tough because I think he needs to somehow come back before the deadline. And prove that he's healthy. Right. And I don't know that he's going to be healthy before the deadline. So that might be more of an offseason thing. But they smartly went all in on the Luca era and then idiotically traded Luca, which is why 27, their first round pick

goes to Charlotte. 2028, they swap with the thunder. 2029, they swap with the rockets. And 2030, they give their pick in 20209 to the rockets. They don't swap. And in 2030, they swap with the Spurs. So they have to brew, I agree, recoup draft capital. But they also, after this, they have their own pick this year.

they are not incentivized to be bad. They don't get any benefit for being bad. So they're in a very weird spot, and there was a lot of, in my opinion, idiotic conspiracies surrounding this trade. Correct. When the Occam's razor answer was, Nico was just wrong.

Nico didn't like him. Nico didn't believe in him. Nico got big-brained on it and, you know, kind of hubris killed him on it. here this is not a conspiracy but this is something that I think when I look back on it I'm like I wonder if that's what should have happened

one of the most controversial things David Stern ever did was veto a trade I mean this this is working I understand it was it was different it was different but the commissioner of pro leagues have wide birth you know what I mean and if there was ever a time for someone

to be like, no, you can't do that to your, you can't do that. Or at the very least, I'm leaking your thinking about doing it and giving you more time. That's the most shocking thing. You can't stop the team for making the train. I mean, and to be honest, if I'm the league, if I'm the league, though, the league wants in LA now. I mean, I'm cool with that. But you just, I don't know, it feels torturous to the fan base.

It just feels, it feels torturous to the fan base. And Luca didn't have a no trade. No, he wasn't even eligible to get one. No, no, no, no. You have to be in the league. Get a no trade in the NBA is very hard. You have to be in the league like 10 years. You have to be with the same team long enough.

Like, very few guys have it. I know, it's weird that so few people have a no trade. Braun has it. Yeah. Or had it. Yeah. If I was an agent, I'd get you a no trade. I should have come up with that.

Adam Silver should have vetoed that trade takes eight months ago. No. No. You know, it's still it. It debuted on the other team. No, it was pretty good. Aaron Rogers had a rough weekend for the Steelers. He scored points for the Chargers here.

Did his play drop Pittsburgh from Danny's top 10? Let's find out on top 10 Tuesday. It absolutely did. Steelers on the outside looking in, but welcome back. Of course. To my Los Angeles Chargers. Now, normally I don't want to put up a tweet with too much information, but I feel like I haven't totally sold you

on just how rough a situation Justin Herbert is in. So from Daniel Popper, the beat reporter for the Chargers, for the Athletic, he had less than 2.25 seconds time to throw. I can't know what this mean. I'm going to explain it to you. You can follow you. A smart guy. Number nine. Less than 2.25

seconds to throw against Pittsburgh. Only happened five times this year. Look at the pressure percentages in those scenarios. Because if you're throwing in less than two and a quarter seconds. I got to tell you, Danny. Herbert still was pressured 42% of the time. That's how bad the offensive line is.

Okay, I got to tell you, if you thought you didn't convince me on Herbert yesterday, this stupid tweet that I don't understand that I'm reading from the far. You're not trying to understand it. I wish you only had 2.25 seconds to explain this. Here's the thing, America. I knew this wasn't going to work, and I did it anyway. Don't do that again. No, I did it anyway because that tells you how good Justin Herbert is.

Number nine, the Colts. This one will be simpler. It's just counting stats, all right? I felt like we should give. This is again becoming, can I stop down real quick? This is starting to become an adversarial side. It's just, let's just have a reset. Let's have a reset.

Okay, number nine, the goal. I know. You were starting. All right. Truth. He's off. Counting stats. Jonathan Taylor, he's out.

he's outpacing Seiquot Barkley last year. That's good. There we go. I get it. You got to understand. 11.30. That is amazing. I hope he's an avocas.

And I had him, obviously, on my ballot, but it felt like, it felt like, shouldn't. It felt like Sequin was, like last year was just having this season like we've never seen. We talked about Seekwan every week, a block story through 10 games. Look at the touchdown. I know. It's like, crazy. Sequin Barclays production from last year. Number eight.

What's his tackles for loss? Yeah. Well, what's his time before? Your Honor. Great staff. You know how we know Jonathan Taylor's awesome? You put up touchdowns in yards. You know how we know you're reaching for Justin Herbert.

We got this weird two and a quarter second and a pressure for sitting. Again, we again. Let's reset. It's reset. Sorry, Danny. I apologize. I nicks me. This one should be pretty straight forward.

I got no great stats for you here. other than the Patriots are really good. And Trevion Henderson looked like he did in the preseason. And they've been a top five rushing team the last four weeks. That's going to help Drake May take less sacks. If he can just turn around and hand it off to a rookie, nice young core there with Drake May and Henderson for the Patriots. Number seven, Brew, I'm kind of borrowing from the Bud list.

I want this to be motivational for the Buffalo Bills, my Super Bowl pick. This is the lowest I've had them all year by far. I went back and check. They've never been lower than fourth this year. Two-game losing streak, the no impressive wins, the spike in turnovers. But that was just a terrible loss to Miami. I expect them to get back up. I still think they can win the Super Bowl.

I still think their best is as good as anyone in the NFL. Knocked you out of the circa millions, too, huh? A little bit of resentfulness there. Lost my shot at 18.7 million. Not bitter at all. Buffalo, great job. The Detroit Lions come in at number six. I don't think it was that brave of Dan Campbell to take over play calling against

Washington, but Jared Gough is having a year where he's on pace for his best touchdown interception ratio and best passer rating and the most passing touchdowns of his career. And best finish on Brew's ballot ever. And, oh, which is, I mean, I think that's really what he's gunning for this year. But their offense is as scary as any team in football. Coming in at number five. I thought we were all in kind. We were being nice.

You get a free one, bro. You get a free one, bro. David's defense, Grubing right on this. This is, this makes them for it. Well, they're back. I already got them up to five.

Your defense is back. All right. They're allowing 14 and a half points per game. Their last four. Lamar's amazing. It feels to me like a five-game win streak is inevitable. Their next three are at home. Their next two are against tomato cans.

Then we get to see them maybe against Joe Burrow, then against Pittsburgh. Then it gets real. But they'll be six and five in short order. At number four, the Chiefs. This is as much respect as I can possibly give to a five. and four football team.

Simmons back. That's great. Their pressure or their protection numbers have been great when Simmons was there. But Andy Reid's amazing out of the buy, the best ever. You lose to Denver. All bets are off on where they'll be next week in top 10 Tuesday. Maybe they drop all the way to five where you have a four and five football team. It's a ton of respect.

I mean, it's a ton of respect. Okay. The chiefs. Coming in at number three, the Philadelphia Eagles. They have the most impressive. this year resume. If we just did quality of your wins. Thank you.

Really? Like, I don't think they're the best team. The eye test tells me that they don't look that impressive, but if it was, it's not the standings, but if it's just, who have you beaten? Oh, you beat the bucks, and you beat the Cowboys, and you beat the Rams, and you beat the Chiefs, and you beat the Packers, and they're the defending champs.

It's like, oh, their problems are probably a little overstated. Coming in at number two, the Seattle Seahawks, And this was a fun exercise. Here's a list of things that Seattle is ranked in the top 10 this year in the NFL. It's a lot of categories on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. They want to put up too much information there for you. I know it can be a little bit overwhelming for you. So let's just move on real quick to the number one team, the Los Angeles Rams.

They come in at number one, which sets up the great meeting this week with a list of the things that the Rams are top 10 in the NFL. So winner of this game, spoiler alert for next Tuesday, gets the top spot. They've been dominant this year. I got the Eagles as the best team in the league. I mean, I know you guys didn't like what you saw last night, but that was a gutsy, gritty win, I thought. And you said it, they got the best resume. I mean, the Chiefs, the Rams, the, yeah.

And even their strength of schedule as far as their wins is number one in the league, as far as the teams they've beaten. So it's ugly. It's not fun to watch at times, but they beat, they have beaten the better teams than anybody in the league. Eagles point differential, though, 13th in the NFL. Yeah, it's, it's not, it don't look great.

Sounds a lot like the Bucks, who aren't even on the top 10. You listed the Bucks as one of the Eagles great wins. The Bucks have beaten Seattle, who's in your top 10. I just listed as a win. And somehow the Bucks aren't there. But that's, and I think they're better in the Chargers, but I don't want to argue that charges you're about to put up the, a tablet from Egypt to explain to me why I don't understand how great Justin Herbert is.

I want Wilds to go. Look, I know that you have your pot committed with Buffalo. You've seen rounders. Poker term. But I don't know the argument that Josh Al, to me, that why the bills are better than the Patriots? Because they lost them a heads up? Well, ever you have.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, like, no, but why are the bill? No, why do you have the bills better than the Patriots? I want to see the Patriots do it against Buffalo again. I'll be honest. Again.

Yeah. That's a sweet. They got a sweet. They got a sweet. They got a sweet. Okay. Say it's like. They're not going to.

It's the top 10 teams according to Danny. Okay. He has no reason. He has no reason. I believe it's not the standings. I believe that Buffalo is better than New England and ultimately will be better than this year. Their record might not be better. But I think Wilde is asking right now this moment.

What is Buffalo better at? Hmm. I don't know. Like it used to be like, I used to be like, we're the up and coming team, but now we've, I think we have catapulted over the bills. And it used to be like, well, Josh, but now Drake is playing so amazing. I feel like the bills, I rolled out reputational momentum. I'll buy that if that's the answer. Like, we're just, you know, you haven't seen it in the playoffs.

That's, that's where it is it? They were won last week. They had a terrible loss to Miami. They're nine days removed. from thoroughly beating the Chiefs. This was as low as I felt like I could drop them. It's the Chief's win. It's the Chiefs win.

Which that has some value. It is their Super Bowl. They're a different team against the Chiefs, though. That's the weird part. Borough is talking playoffs. Something. That's next on overtime. What's popping Bears Nation?

Spencer Locke co-pilot RC-1-35. Proud to serve at Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska. Like any other good Chicago Suburbian, all I want for Christmas this year, some shredded cheese. Bear down, baby. Thank you, Spencer, and Go Bears. And a happy Veterans Day to all who served, Danny Parkins, Coach Manjini, and Willie Cologne. And gentlemen, just wanted to take an opportunity to recognize some of the veterans in our life.

Wanted to give a shout out to one of my oldest friends. Sergeant First Class, Martel Bowen. Marty was the first guy, one of the first people to be nice to me when I moved to a new town in third grade. still in the same friend group. Terrible fantasy football play. But a great guy. Three deployments, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kosovo. There he is, meeting and honoring a WW2 vet.

So just wanted to say thank you, Marty, for all that you do. Coach? Yeah, I'd like to give a shout out to my dad, Carmen Mangini, who's a proud member of the Navy and served on a destroyer during the Korean War. I had a chance to go to Afghanistan on the U.S.O. trip, but I can't tell you how blown away I was by just the character and the courage and the sacrifice of all the men and women that serve.

So thank you. Oh, man, that's awesome. Yeah, I want to shout out my big cousin. I know he's going to pop up right there on the left there. Specialist Melvin Ware and my awesome little cousin, Deanna Numa, who's actually the proud wife of Quincy in Numa. A little tip bit for you there. No, thank you for your service.

service that these two mean the world to me and everything they've been able to sacrifice. And I'm happy they're home living productive lives and I love them to do it. We think all of those who serve and wish you a happy Veterans Day. We'll get back to football here and go to Cincinnati where Joe Burrow is stretching. He's back at practice, injecting a little bit of hope for Bengals fans. They're three and six though, third in the AFC North. But Joe Burrough said that anyone can still take that division. They're still in the race, and he believes.

Take a listen. Yeah, you know, our division is wide open. There's a lot of, I think, Pittsburgh's 5 and 4 at this point. We play them this week. So, you know, everything is still there in front of us. It's very rare that our division looks like this, but it does this year. And so, you know, I think we'll be at least in it until the end.

I respect the leadership. I think the message is correct. But Burrow can't. save a team that's terrible defensively, which is exactly what they were last year. They're one game away from setting the Super Bowl era record for nine straight games of allowing 27 or more points. Joe Burrow doesn't rush the passer. So I admire it. Flacco's been good. This isn't Jake Browning. So I don't think you can save the season, coach. Yeah, he is absolutely right. The division is wide open. It's just not wide open for them. And when he looked at the

last three games, they scored 42 points, they scored 38 points, and they scored 33 points. So that's an average of 37. So what's Joe going to come back and get him another field goal, and they're going to score 40 every game? When you're scoring at that type of rate, but you're dead last in yards, you're dead last in points, you're dead last in brush yards, your 30th and passing yards, the 29th in sacks, and your 25th in takeaways, it's just too hard. And you said it, Danny, Joe Flacco has been really good. They've been. been extremely productive and they've still found ways to win. So it's hard to, I like his optimism too, but it seems a little misplaced.

Yeah, I think we're all in the same boat, but I would ask the Bengals, do they care about their future, right? Because if you put them out there, you have a Gympie quarterback. You're expecting to win four, what, four games in the next, in the next four, have four wins in the next five games. I mean, that's a lot. You're talking about a bad defense, a Gympie quarterback, trying to take on a Herkulean effort.

for the defense right now, as we all just say, can't stop a cold. I think it's impossible. So I love his optimism. I just don't see it happen. Flacco's been great. And it does beg the question of, like, how plug and play is that offense? Not that you would move on from Joe Burrow, because he can be your answer for the next decade. Flacco is not your answer for the next decade.

But just the resources that they've used on the offensive side of the ball, just completely forgetting about defense. Yeah, you would be so much more optimistic if Flacco had gone in and done poorly. and you're thinking, oh, okay, now we get Joe Burrow back and he can really utilize his weapons, but it just hasn't been the case. Well, you were optimistic if the defense can step up. You know, like you mentioned, Burrow can't tackle.

He can't cover. All he does is play quarterback. The last touchdown against the Bears is just horrendous. Right, but if you're Joe Burrow, do you want to come back to that? I mean, you're putting up numbers. Well, I think he does, right? I mean, football players play. Like, I think he'll come back if they're, if they lose the next two.

I think he'll come back. But this is the same team that. suited up and try to make it run last year. You know what I mean? This is the same, like, nothing's changed from what we saw this team looked like last year. That, listen, it's probably going to be Baltimore station. They all have to just kind of admit it. Don't count up my Steelers.

I understand we going through a little muddy patch right now. They're on the ropes. It's okay. I mean, that's, you know, we've been there before. I've counted you out. Let's go right here to New York as Brian Dable fired yesterday as the bill's head coach. Sean McDermott, an old pal, was asked about a possible reunion with his former offensive coordinator and Brian Dable. McDermott, well, he addressed it pretty directly. Take a listen.

I understand why you're asking that. Brian's a great coach. Unfortunate to see that happen to him. At this point, that's not under any type of consideration. We've got a really good offensive staff. You know, they've had really good games. You're going to you're going to have some games you want back, some play calls you want back. those happen. So it's how you respond to him and I'm fully confident in our offensive staff and Joe is our leader. I get the connecting of the dots coach, but what's your reaction to this speculation? I don't know why Brian would want to do it right now. If anything, he should take a little time to decompress, spend some time with his family, enjoy a very well-paid vacation and reload for

next year. But if he does want to do it, Buffalo makes sense because he's from Buffalo. He loves the city. got a relationship. And Brian's not the type of guy that goes in and disrupts the staff. That's not how he's wired. Worked with him in New England. He was my quarterback coach of the Jets. He was my offense coordinator at the Bronx. He's just not that type of guy. He'd be an asset to any staff should he want to do that. If Buffalo didn't want to do that, that's fine. And let's say Brian wanted to continue to work. New England's a very attractive place. He and Josh McDaniels have a long working relationship. He was there and coached Brable as well, he'd be a huge asset for them also, or just sit and wait and see if there's a team

that's got a chance to make a Super Bowl run and hop on that train. Yeah, I think for this situation right here, I think if you're the Buffalo Bill, first of all, I think Sean McDormick for really saying, hey, Joe Brady is a guy we're going to kind of keep things running. But this isn't about nostalgia. This is about the Buffalo Bills looking for solutions, right? When you lose a game like you lost to the Dolphins, you start to question everything you've done this far because, like I stated yesterday, this should have been a team that should have

roll the Dolphins even with their B game. That didn't happen. And I also think right now, Kenan Coleman has been a real big disappointment from them because they can't stretch the field and they have nothing now working from them down the field. And so now you're asking Josh Allen and James Cook and his tight-in core to really make hey, and they've struggled. And so I think they're just looking for solutions. I don't think Brian Dayball is a solution. I don't think he would be a distraction right now. But I think you will undermine what Joe Brady has built that far with the bills. So you're right about the explosive play rate, like that the quick strikes. That that part has regressed for Buffalo. That's undeniable. But

Buffalo's offense has been good. It just has been. And it was excellent last year. These are some of their ranks. They're first in rushing. Second and total yards. Fifth on third down. Sixth in scoring. Seventh in the red zone. Ninth in turnovers. Twelve in passing. Like, the idea that like the problem in Buffalo right now is Joe Brady and Josh Allen's offense. But it wasn't sure.

Yeah, yeah. But like, I'd be much more worried if I was Sean McDermott than I was Joe Brady. Like, the problem is. In what regard? The problem is the bill's defense. Yeah. It's their defense has been a much bigger part of their inconsistency this year than their offense. I'd say the one concern that I have is Josh Allen, all we talked about last year was the fact that he was able to fix the turnover problem.

And here we are this year. And it's not really a serious. But he's almost at the same number of turnovers at this point as he had all of last season. So I don't think that's the sole reason, but that is a cause for concern. But it's all the turnovers are happening when they need it most. That's the problem, right? Like I think he's trying to best to do something that. But they're happening in a situation of football where you gotta have it.

He's filming the ball. Packers lost last night and all of a sudden Matt LaFloor is on the hot seat. Top times in the not for long week. Time now for Willie's favorite segment of the week. Little he said, we said, best sound for the week. Best sound from the weekend across the NFL. We begin, as we always do, with the best from Monday night football. Here's head coach, Matt LaFleur.

Gentlemen, take a listen. With the way things have gone this season, do you think you're coaching for your job? I'm not. I'll leave that for everybody else to decide. I'll just focus on the day-to-day and trying to do. I feel like you're always coaching for everything in this league. You know, that's just my mindset. It's always been that way.

you know, you can't ever exhale. You've got to always be pushing. And that's just my mindset. And that will be my mindset until they tell me not to coach me anymore. This one took me by complete surprise. What? It did. Now, I know that you're getting hired to get fired for all of these jobs.

Coach, you know it better than anyone. Aaron Rogers was on the decline. And then Matt LaFleur got there and he won a couple of MVP's. And then Jordan Love was what, the 26th pick in the draft and immediately came in and was good enough to get $220 million? Like general rule of thumb, if when you get fired, 25 teams would want to hire you to join their staff, which is what would happen if Matt LaFleur got fired, I'm not sure it's a good idea to fire. Get a little bit more creative, pass more than run, fix the running game on first down, pass more than a lot. run a first down, but like firing Matt Lafour strikes me. It's crazy, coach.

Well, if Aaron Rogers played anywhere like he played for those first few years of Matt LaFleur, the Jets would be really happy right now, the Steelers would be really happy right now. So he had a home run there. And then when Jordan Love, he did sit for a long time before he played. But this is also the effect of the Micah Parsons trade. When you trade for a guy like Micah Parsons, expectations change. With Jordan Love, when you pay him all that money, expectations change.

So he is on a different time table. And I'd say the dramatic losses that they've had where you lose to Carolina when you're a 14 point favorite, you lose to Cleveland. That was another significant. That was 10, 12 point favorite. And then you tie the Cowboys, which nobody expected. Those losses really sting, especially in light of losing last night and not being able to do much offensive. Yeah, I agree with you, Dan. We all need to breathe.

I mean, LaFore has had three 13 wins seasons. Last night it was indicative to just penalties, lack of execution. It's not a deficiency problem right now. You know, they have to be better in a situation in football. You need to deport from when you didn't get it. But overall, we talk about this team. I mean, they lost to the Super Bowl chance. They didn't lose to anybody, right?

So we got to breathe a little bit. But it's losing to the Super Bowl champs after you lost to Carolina and Cleveland and tied Dallas. I think it's a combination of those two things combined. But they also held the Eagles to 10 points. You know what I said? Right, but it's not, it's due to lack of execution, not deficiency. I would be worried if we were deficient across the roster and we're looking at things like where we feel like we have to wait to the end of season fixed.

Everything that happened last night is fixable. Right. But the GM, he's safe, the head coach, when there's deficiencies, everybody said, that's your fault. Because that's really what it is. If you feel like you have all the talent in the world and they're not producing, then you look to the head coach and say, okay, you might need something different. I'm not advocating firing. I'm not a shot.

Sound like you were looking for that. I'm just saying I know how this movie plays out. This is a man who's seen a fire anger two in the NFL. Let's stay in the NFC North. Dan Campbell took over play calling against Washington. They put up a 40 burger. Take a listen. Look, when you're the head coach and you know how you want it to look,

it's one thing to kind of say how you want it to look. But until it's hard to crawl into my head, right? And you have your own vision for it. And I just know I have a good feel of our players. And I know what we're capable of. I know what they're capable of. And so I don't know. That's the best way to say it.

When you hear that, coach, what do you make of it? I agree 100%. And this is the challenge of bringing new coordinators. And I work with Johnny Morton. Johnny Morton is a good offense coordinator. and he's trying to do what the head coach wants, but sometimes it doesn't connect right away, and it may take longer.

So as a head coach, that's your job. If you're not getting what you want, then you go and you make sure that it happens. And in this case, he took over, over play calling, because at the end of the day, it's his ultimate responsibility. So if you have that responsibility, you also have the right to make sure that you're getting exactly what you want from all the coordinators, all the coaches, and the expectations from the players.

Yeah, I love when the captain captains of ship, right? I think when they lost to the Vikings, I'm pretty sure he wanted to make that move in Minnesota, but he's like, man, I'm not going to step on the OC's toes. I'm going to let it happen. Did he watches this team go against commanders and things kind of stale? He goes, all right, I got to do what the captain needs to do and write the ship. And he did. Golf goes off, Gibbs goes off, and they get out the building and everything looks fine and right.

I think they're wrapped around that identity that the Detroit Lions, when they roll on the field, they're going to beat you up, score points. and get Ws. And if they're not on track with that, with the way the division is paning out, then they got to do something, and he did something. So I respect it.

Boomer Asiason once called me a NARP, a non-athletic regular person. And this is a... Directly at you? Yeah, at me on an old radio show. This is maybe a NARPian take. Do you think Johnny Morton is rooting for the lines to put up a big number against Philly?

Because Dan Campbell took over play calling against Washington. Washington is the second worst defense and points allowed in the NFL. My guess is Johnny Morton would have hung a big number against Washington if he was calling the plays. Now they play a Philly team that just held Green Bay to 7.

Like if Dan Campbell puts up 30 plus against Philly, that's not a very good reflection on Johnny Morton. It may not be, but there's a lot of head coaches that would have fired the coordinator. And so I have a lot of respect for the fact that he didn't fire him and maybe it doesn't look like he wants it to right now, but he can call the plays that can continue to work together and maybe it reverses.

it hurts back at some later point. So I do respect the fact that that he's sticking with him. Non-athletic regular person. It stung a little bit, but it was true. That does hurt. Yeah. Come on. To Tampa Bay, Baker Mayfield talked about what's been missing from the offense.

Take a listen. We're a good team, but to be great, when you score on the opening drive, you know what it looks like. You set the tone. You're not satisfied with it. You come back in your head, it's zero-zero, and you go do it again. And right now, I think we're lacking that on offense. And it comes down to me.

That's my job to get that fixed. And I will do that. Lacking in terms of hunger. Killer instinct. Pretty powerful stuff from Baker Mayfield. What did you make of it, really? Yeah, he's right. I mean, this isn't the same team we saw go up in Seattle and win a shootout against Sam

Darnold and the Seahawks. I got a graphic right now to show you how they've been playing on offense right now, and it's not good. You talk about on third down, they've been insufficient. I don't know we're going to pop it up. There we go right there. I mean, look at this. On third down, 30 per six.

I mean, even in the red zone, I thought they were better than that. They're not. You're talking about the end of fourth quarter. I mean, they're just not getting it done. So when you talk about Baker Mayfield saying, hey, man, we need to be better, especially on my side of the ball. He's 100% right. This is what leaders do.

They call out the elephant in the room and they hopefully correct it. They got a lot of ball left, but they got to get it done soon. I don't love the vagueness of killer instinct because it does have implications. Who's he calling out? Is he calling out the head coach? The head coach isn't giving him, isn't giving him the green light to keep, keep attacking. Is he going out the offensive coordinator? Is he not doing that? So, so that's a little, a little bit too vague and, and creates unnecessary friction.

I think you should stick with the specifics of what you can get better as opposed to just throwing out, you know, vague terms. It'll help when Bucky Irving comes back. Godwin would help. Offensive lines staying healthy would help. We'll see if Evans ever comes back. Listen, I think they're going to. I think Evans is. Yeah. Right. But I'd be like, but you got you over, you over, you're over. come all of these things. Like, Abuka's a great story, but he's still a rookie. It's a lot that he was not supposed to be the number one option for them on offense,

which is what he's been. So you get some of these guys back. I think that the personnel comes back, that might help the killer. Chicken or egg. I think when Bakerton on the film, he looked at the Patriots look hungry and more ready for the fight than the bucks did. And that's why he's salty about it. And that was the bucks at home. Exactly.

Off a by. Best moment, or at least the funniest of week 10 coming up on FTA. Happy Veterans Day, America. from U.S. Army Sergeant Evan Anderson, currently deployed overseas with the 130th Field Artillery Brigade. We just wanted to say from halfway across the world, we appreciate all the love and support back home on the home front. Look forward to being back with all you. In the meantime, thank you for the support and what we do. Happy Veterans Day.

Time now for a nice edition of, did you catch that? And yes, a happy Veterans Day. Thank you, Sergeant. Seameless transition by me. Yep. Sneakiest moment of the weekend. Flashback to week nine, coach. Rico Dowdell scores on the Packers, does the key and peel, the double pump celebration. I thought you could do it.

Then he gets fined 15K. Rico Dowdle learned his lesson. Legitimately started to go fund me. You know, take a, it's a learning lesson. Did everybody contribute? Do you know that that? Keegan Michael, he got a $15,000 donation. He, he zoomed in to the, to the Panthers team meeting.

Him and his wife made a $15,000 donation, but go back to this Sunday, Rico Dowdle, he's learning lessons. He went from multiple pumps to zero pumps. And Aaron Jones on the Vikings also learned his lesson and did zero pumps. So you can't stop pumping that's what I'm saying. You gotta keep pumping.

You don't wanna get fine for pumping. Coach, that's what you always say. Yeah, that's the starting point of every meeting. Every meeting. You gotta count it out of the bat. We have to clarify that element.