First Things First - Ravens ’S.B.o.B’, Geno Smith traded to Jets, Ken Rosenthal joins, Top 10 Free Agency Edition

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

(0:00) Ravens Super Bowl or Bust, Team USA rolls, Was Nuggets-Thunder the Game of the Year? (27:27) Geno Smith traded to Jets, Should Eagles fans be concerned with roster moves? (39:50) Will Mike Ev...ans eclipse 1000 yards this season?  (46:45) Top 10 Signings, How should Drake Maye feel about the Patriots’ free agent signings? (01:06:21) Ken Rosenthal joins (01:15:21) Should Tua or Penix start for the Falcons? (01:21:58) Top 10 Free Agency Duds, How scary would the Vikings be with Kyler Murray? (01:44:11) How dangerous are the Steelers with Michael Pittman Jr.?  (01:56:04) How should Jets fans feel about Geno Smith? (02:04:24) USA vs. Italy preview  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Strokes won the other way. Back towards the law. There it goes. Aaron Judge strikes first for Team USA. Live from New York. It's a show that was rooting for Aaron Judge last night as a Red Sox fan. It was just wonderful. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:00:23 That's a weird spot for you. That's nice, though. You get to root for you for Team USA. That's right. It was Aaron Judge hits a home run. Roman Anthony hits a home run. I was also rooting for Jaron Duran, who Aaron Judge. It was just very
Starting point is 00:00:36 You would have a problem with that? I feel like you've gone maybe a little soft as a Boston sports fan. There's supposed to be some hatred. Root for Team USA, but you want Judge to strike out. Wow. How does that work? Then I'm betraying the country?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Red Sox Nation, am I wrong? That's true, too. I actually love the Yankees, though. Yeah, that's confusing. It's a flaw in my Red Sox. It's a big flaw. In fact, it means you're not a Red Sox. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Maybe not. You can't love the Yankeesians. as a Red Sox fan. Really like. Have you ever heard there's a thin line between love and hate? That's me. Well, I'm thin for you. First hour, first things first.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Today, Brew updates his S Bob rankings. Is this official? This is official. Pencil, okay. Excellent. It was fun. It's some good choices out there. Excellent for this all day.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Meanwhile, Team USA is undefeated. They play Italy tonight. Tonight, any chance we get upset in the very interesting comments from the Mexico team manager who wants USA in a major way, wants a rematch. Almost guaranteed. Remember, they beat us last time. Very confident. And Scoobel, you're worried? I don't know how to feel.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Making a lot of noises. I don't know how to feel about Scoobo's saying, I'm not leaving. Well, actually, I am. And finally, Danny's winners. Duds from free agency. Yeah. In a tough spot, editorially.
Starting point is 00:02:09 The Dudd list. He wanted to do the Dudd list. Dusty's always trying to push studs and duds. And we're like, I don't know, Dust. Can't do winners and losers. I'm on the losers list. It feels like a shot. That's the trick.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I started Kevin Wilde's Dairy Park. He's in for Nick, who was in Japan. Because they want me to do a dud list later in the week when Brew is out. That's a different meaning. But then they don't want me. Underdress. The dud list. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:33 But then they don't want me to do losers today. So a lot of duds this week with me, which looks at comments. Excessions. Go ahead. We're starting with the Rams. Defense fell apart after Thanksgiving and they're putting it back together in free agency. After signing Trem McDuffie, they added another former chief, Jalen Watson, to the squad. They have the best Super Bowl odds all by themselves,
Starting point is 00:02:56 slightly ahead of the Seahawks who are tied with the Ravens, courtesy of the Crosby Edition Brew. Bill's Chiefs Packers, who just lost all. Romeo Dodds. I think that's a pretty big loss. Really? Into the Patriots. 49ers who got Mike Evans. The Eagles, who I read, have spent
Starting point is 00:03:11 $1 million in free agency, which is a lot in the real world. Well, look, last year they had arguably the most talented squad, so they could afford to lose a million bucks feels a little light. Oh, Howie Roseman will strike.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Waiting for it, Chargers and the Lions. Are the Rams the most Super Bowl or bust team in the league, Danny? No. Your Ravens are. They're the most Super Bowl or bus team. Wow. You can't be the most Super Bowl or bus team if you've already won a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:03:45 That's a fair rationale. Like, I don't know the... It's something to consider. Like, I don't know the first thing's first bylaws and what it says in the fine print. Really up to bro. Okay, perfect. So I didn't have time to check. But if the coach and the quarterback...
Starting point is 00:04:00 Depends. Have a Super Bowl. You can't. be S-Bob, but you can't be the most S-Bob. I would say you're Ravens who have a... They just lost the ton yesterday, I'm told. Exactly. But they would say that they got better.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You would say that they got better. You have a quarterback who's won three playoff games, and we don't know if he can actually live up to his first ballot Hall of Fame MVP caliber talent in the play. We don't know. So a lot of pressure on him. First time head coach. I really like the head coach. He's got to win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Apparently. There's a lot of questions around him. You got worse on offense. And I think most notably, you gave up the Ravens' biggest advantage over the rest of the league is that they are arguably the best drafting team in football. They are in that conversation as the best drafting team in the league. And you traded multiple first first. round picks for a 29-year-old edge rusher.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So you have made a win now trade with a first-time head coach and a quarterback who doesn't win in the playoffs or play well in the playoffs. So yeah. Speaking as a Justin Herbert guy, slow down on Lamar not being able to win in the playoffs. Three of a holes compared to Herbert in the playoffs. All right. Again, I don't know why. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:05:31 I don't know how Justin Herbert and his zero league MVP's and not Hall of Fame lock status is being put into the Lamar Jackson category of expectation and pressure. But listen, the Rams are all in and they're SBOP because they have a 38-year-old quarterback who's year to year. But other than that, I don't think that I think there are plenty of teams that are more desperate to win the Super Bowl, including the Ravens. I know you have an S-Bob list. Can I dis the Rams for a second before you go? 13th hardest schedule, which is middle of the pack. Middle of the pack, but I like saying 13th hardest. Like, well, okay, 12 harder.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Here are their opponents. So I think it's actually harder because anytime you have the chiefs on your schedule, the strength of schedule is based on the six-win chiefs, not who we really think the chiefs are going. to be. So here's what I don't like about the Rams. I don't, look, the road games are always tough for the Rams when they're flying around. They lost at Atlanta. They lost at Carolina.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Even in the playoff games in Carolina, they had a rough time. So oddly, the fact that they were able to give the Seahawks everything they wanted, they will lose to the Falcons. Chiefs Chargers and Bills is very tough. So the home games, I like to look at a home schedule,
Starting point is 00:06:54 a home slate, and just mark off some Ws. Maybe that's because it's the jets and the dolphins that we're always playing. But when are you exhaling at home? Seahawks, no. 49ers, no. Cardinals, yes. Cowboys, maybe.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Giants with Harbaugh, I'm not saying that's an easy win. Packers, Chiefs, Chargers, Bills. I might be selling my ram stock, which I didn't own to begin with, but I don't love it. I mean, it's a tough schedule. But the Rams, look, they were close to the Super Bowl. last year. And they've been good every time, you know, Stafford's healthy.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So I'll give the official S-Bob list. Excellent. How many are there? Five. I could, I could see there being a bacon. There's more S-Bob teams, but I got the top five. Oh, the top five. You know, I like doing the top five.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Perfect. Now, I'm going to start off by saying something I may have never said on this show. Certainly not a lot. Danny's right. Whoa. I think that's the first time. I've ever said that. I was like leading in like, what's he going to say?
Starting point is 00:08:03 It's a great day. Yes, the Ravens are the most S-Bob team, period. For all the reasons you said, look, and you didn't even mention this, they're about to give Lamar Jackson, I would assume, the biggest contract is the history of professional football. All right? Like you said, they gave up the two first round picks, which I'm in, I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But still, you gave them up for Max Crosby, who is 29 coming off a knee injury. And then Lamar, look, two MVPs. He's the only multiple-time MVP winner who has not won a championship in NFL history. Every year he goes without winning the Super Bowl, ratchets up the pressure more and more. Now, I do think, even though, you know, others have said, and Lamar's actually pushed back, people have said no excuses and, you know, this is the year. everything. I do feel like, now, again, they're number one on my list. But in some quarters, and maybe even to Lamar, having a new coach who's a brand new coach, like first year coach, period.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And then your offensive line being has to be revamped after losing Linderbom. Maybe that in his mind takes a little pressure off, you know, because it's rare that you expect a first year coach in his first coaching job ever as far as head coaching to win a Super Bowl. But they still are number one S-Bob. I agree with you on that. Which brings us to number two, I doubt I get any pushback on this, DeBills. Very fair. Josh Allen, same exact same draft class as Lamar Jackson, has an MVP. Same thing. Got to win the Super Bowl, all right? And this year, with Mahomes and the Chiefs out, you felt like he really had a great shot. He obviously, felt like he had a great shot
Starting point is 00:09:56 and they blew it and the bills the fact that they hired the head coach Joe Brady from within to me tells me they expect us we're picking up where we left off and taking it to another level. So they got to win it. Number three, you might disagree with this, Danny.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I got the Rams at three. Because of what you say, I get that you're right. The fact that they've won the Super Bowl, McVeigh, that monkey's off his shoulders, off Stafford's shoulders. But they're clearly playing for now. Like there's no tomorrow as far as
Starting point is 00:10:28 they're concerned. The whole F the picks and all that stuff. They are about winning. Now we've seen from the moves they've made recently, Trent McDuffie and so on and so forth. They're all about winning. And this could be Stafford's last year for all we know. Or he could get even if he got hurt or something like that. So
Starting point is 00:10:44 they're all in. At number four, this one might be controversial. San Francisco. And here's why. Again, they're all in. You go out and get a You give a $60 million contract to a 30. He'll be 33 in August, Mike Evans. 33-year-old receiver.
Starting point is 00:11:02 All right. George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey, Nick Bosa, they're not getting any younger. I don't know what they'll do with Trent Williams, but they are not getting. You should sign Trent Williams to a one-year deal. I would, but it seems like he wants so much money. They're going to have to really figure that out.
Starting point is 00:11:19 But here's the other thing. Kyle Shanahan, I know he's the boy Wonder. But when you're going to win a Super Bowl? He looks getting there. Right. Getting there and having some questionable calls at late in those games when he's gotten there, even in Atlanta when he was the OC.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So I just think the age of the team around Purdy, obviously Purdy is young. And then Kyle Shanahan, he's not on a hot seat if he doesn't win it. But at some point, he's got to win it. All right, so I got them for this. I could see this going in a few different ways. I got three teams. that came down to number five.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Philadelphia, Green Bay, and Detroit. Oh. And I went with Philadelphia, and again, obviously have a Super Bowl, but here's why. It seems like Nick Siriani has to win the Super Bowl to keep his job. That's what it feels like.
Starting point is 00:12:14 There's always a lot of noise in that organization. A.J. Brown, he might be back, you know, for all we know. But they're seeing, Siriani seems to be on a hot seat and I think because the bar there is so high. Like this year, okay, you won the Super Bowl two years ago. This year you made the playoffs, and everybody's acting like the sky is falling in here.
Starting point is 00:12:38 The bar is so high, which I guess now, having made three Super Bowls in nine years, you won two of them. Now they feel like we got to win the Super Bowl every year. Now, I made this list before, you know, some of the losses. They have lost some players, but I think those guys are replaceable. Even Jalen Phillips, I hate to lose.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Now, what's going on with the Cowboys, the original S-Bob? Well, they have been, they're historically S-Bob. Because they're America's team. It's like another category. They're like the Knicks. No, there's not the Knicks. But there's the Lakers, there's the Cowboys, and they're the Yankees. Those are like the three national teams.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yep. And so every year, no matter how good. or bad they are, it's kind of S-Bops. They're like Grant. I thought the Knicks was good. Like, yeah, they should win it, but they won't. But they're not like a great franchise. I hate to say it.
Starting point is 00:13:33 They're inexpensive. You want to move to baseball? A quick final thoughts. The only thing is I would have the Lions significantly higher on the list. I probably would have put him at third. Here's not in the franchise's history. Here's why. Well, here's why I didn't put the Lions in.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Because why I put Siriani above them. Campbell has job security. Yeah. Like no matter, you know, I get it. It's a younger core of players, no question, but no Super Bowl and franchise history. Same thing for the Packers. I mean, they got Super Bowl. Do you like it?
Starting point is 00:14:02 I mean, Jemira Gibbs is just a stud. I don't know that that's going to be a big role for him. I like it. I mean, he'll be, but Gibbs going to be the full time back. Of course, but it'll help a little. Yeah. I like it. I think Pacheco still has a little bit of something.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I agree. I don't think it's just all. But Checo is not good anymore. I'm like, I think the Chiefs were. I think that was a good sign for them. Okay. Head to Houston, where Team USA remained perfect. Paul Skeen's dominant, Aaron Judge and Roman Anthony,
Starting point is 00:14:28 both hit home runs in the third to make it 5-0. Game ended 5-3. USA has been rolling, but Mexico manager Benji Gill wants one more shot at Team USA. Take a listen. I hope we play the U.S. again. That would be awesome. I would be ecstatic to face them again.
Starting point is 00:14:47 For one, it's probably the championship, right? It's a championship in Miami. In fact, you know what? I want to face them more than I want anything else in the world. How's that? Unless, I don't know what the lottery is at right now. But if the lottery is somewhere around 800 million, then you'll win the lottery and cheer everybody from far.
Starting point is 00:15:07 But outside of that, I desire that more than anything in the world. Face them again in Miami, I think that we'll end up one-in-one against the U.S. All right, Brie, your reaction to that, Soundboy, and what you've taken away from Team USA? I'm here for it. I like what he said. Because even though we've only won one out of the five world baseball classics, we're still the big boys. The major leagues are in the United States. And so we're still the evil empire, if you will. And he feels like with good reason. I mean, our team is stacked. We obviously beat him yesterday. But they did have the tying run on base, what, in the eighth inning. And so they feel like we can beat the. And they have beating us in the past. So I think he's just like, we know we can beat them. They've got not only are the USA where Major League Baseball is,
Starting point is 00:16:02 but they got a stacked lineup that if we beat Judge and Harper and Schwerber and so on and so forth, that just makes us look that much better. So I love what he's saying. Look, I do think as much as you can say in baseball, which we know is a fickle sport, I do think now Team USA should roll to the final. They don't have to play, as A.J. Prisinski told us yesterday, they don't have to play Japan or the Dominican Republic
Starting point is 00:16:29 until they would get to that championship game because of the brackets. So I thought Mexico going in was probably going to be our toughest game. We'll see if that plays out. But, yeah, I think now we should roll right into the finals. I love his calculus there. Well, other than what's the lottery at? Yeah, if it's 800. If it's 800 million.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Like 300 million. He's just interested in the world. It's more classic. But 800 million. So I like that internal calculus. You know, I covered baseball for forever. Covered the Royals, a couple World Series teams, Cubs playoff teams, White Sox playoff teams.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And when you're doing radio every day in a baseball market, one of the things you would just say is like, well, it's baseball. Right. Like anything can happen. You do 162 games and then it comes down to, you know, best of one, a best of five, best a seven. It's baseball. Anything can happen.
Starting point is 00:17:16 So, sure, it's baseball. anything can happen. But this lineup is so overwhelming. You watch and it's just, it's an overwhelming. It's nonstop. It's nonstop. And so can they lose? Of course.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Is anyone in their right mind going to pick them to lose? I don't see how you could. So I'm going to show, can we show the pitching dust? Team USA pitching, our ERA, we're giving up three runs a game. 16. That's his total hits. six home runs, Jared Duran at two.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Opponent batting average is at 168. Here's the thing. Scoobles out. He's gave you one game and he says, I'm going back. Skeens is going to go one more. It's not like it's the
Starting point is 00:18:03 hitting depth is not on par with the pitching depth. Partly by design and everyone's dealing with that. That's right. But if you have a journeyman guy who gets hot
Starting point is 00:18:15 and wants to go longer or throw it more intense when we have our guys kind of... Yeah. It's a half measure for us by design. Well, I agree with you. And our pitching, I think, is one of our big advantages, even though our lineup is stacked. DR's lineup is stacked too, and then obviously Japan is good.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But our pitching might separate us. But to your point, if we're, you know, we're not able to go with our best guys all the time, then it could change. I wonder if, again, and we talked with AJ yesterday, we've gotten more into the world baseball class. as the years have gone on and we haven't won it a lot. I wonder if going forward, I mean, obviously teams don't want their players getting hurt. But will we let our – if we don't win this with this stacked offensive lineup, will we let the pitchers look? We're really trying to win the WBC.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. Just like Team USA and basketball. Yeah, but with where it is – We don't put minutes restrictions on them. No, but the scoble issue is he – it's almost Detroit's fault. that if Detroit gave him his massive deal and he was locked up for $300 million, maybe he'd give us another game.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But he, even the other day, he's like, I'm going to talk to the Tigers and I'm going to talk to my agent. I'm like, no, dude, you can't go again. You can't blow out your arm and risk a hundred. I understand it, but it's also stinks. It might be a calendar problem. Like, these baseball teams are giving guys nine-figure deals and it's right before the start of the regular season.
Starting point is 00:19:44 They're like, we want you to win it too, but we just can't risk it. So I don't know that you solve that. If you've got the money, like, but a player would be cool with it, but then when a team's not going to with it. Well, my money's guaranteed, so I'm going to do it. You still, and you have that issue in the other sports. Like basketball, I mean, a player could get hurt. Yeah. But like you said, if they have locked up the contract. But it's not right before the finals. No, but if I agree. Yeah, or before the season. It kind of is before the season. It's in the summer.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Paul Skeins will be there. He's going to get plenty of starts. I agree. And pirates, I hate to break it to you as a pirate's guy. Yeah. Yeah. This is the highlight. All right, head to OKC, game tied at 126. SGA Stepback 3 wins. He goes for 35, 9, 15 assists, brew. Also, tied wilt. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:30 With 126 games consecutive with at least 20 points. Here's Joker on SGA in that record, and then SGA on the game winning shot. Take a listen. I don't know the people know how hard is to do that, you know, to play, to make a 20-point game in 10 games, not 120, whatever. It's special and he's a special player and it's a pleasure and privilege to battle against him. I have answers to the test, but I got to see the questions first. So once I see he was on my left and I was going right, I think it was Christian Braun. I was in the gap.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So I knew I probably was like if I drove to shoot a midi, it's probably going to be a contested with two guys. So I tried to separate from the three and get a good comfortable shot and then went down. What was your number one takeaway? from this game, bro. First, let me shout out SGA. I think he's telling me, not so fast. You said Wimby's the best player in the world, not so fast. Great game by SGA.
Starting point is 00:21:30 The two threes on the last two possessions, phenomenal. And I want to congratulate him. Think about this. You know, Michael Jordan did not do this. What he's the 20 straight, you know, 126 games, 20 straight points. LeBron James, Kobe Bryant. None of Kevin Durant. None of them did this.
Starting point is 00:21:53 This is incredible what he's done. And Greg Jennings and I were talking before the show. And we were saying like, and I've said this before on this show, if SGA's game was more spectacular. Like everything else was the same, but he was a high flyer, like John Morant's type, you know, as far as the excitement quotient. We would be talking about him, I think, in historic terms. We should be already.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I know. And what we came to, because usually the face of the league, which he would be if he was more spectacular, and the guy as regard as the best player in the league is generally has something unique about them as far as the way they play, the excitement level or the size, Yokic is seven foot or what shack was huge. He is like a perimeter version of Tim Duncan, whereas, and he's a little more exciting than Duncan, but you know what I mean? like he's not going to necessarily capture our imagination. All he's going to do is go out there and play fundamentally sound,
Starting point is 00:22:56 excellent basketball, and win. We'll see more championships. So he's fantastic, but go ahead because I don't want to step on your toes if you were going to say something. No, listen, SGA can get anywhere he wants on the court at any given time. He's a remarkable player. Can I borrow the bonus take? Oh, yeah, absolutely. This was the game of the year.
Starting point is 00:23:19 That was everything you could possibly want out of regular season basketball. It was captivating theater, start to finish. So I have two bonus graphics, and then I'll get to my biggest take from it. Three times? Wow. That's a great. You're going to take my extra take. A triple take, if you will.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You might want to save a spot for SGA atop your MVP ballot. That game last night was... Oh, you think that ended it? I don't know that it ended it, but if he hits that 65-game threshold, we will talk about that game when we're talking about him winning another MVP. He did something last night, only LeBron's done. 35 points, 15 assists, zero turnovers in a game. Like the Wilt thing is obviously an incredible all-time accomplishment. But that performance, it's like if it's you and LeBron, we should at least take 15 seconds to note that it happened when he's carrying
Starting point is 00:24:07 this team this year in the way that he's doing it. The Denver side of it, why I cannot eliminate them and why I had them second on my title pie is Oklahoma City has the best defense in the league and I know that they had guys out which I'll get to in a second but Denver has just proven that they can score against Oklahoma City they did it in the seven game series last year they've done it this year like the Thunder give up 107 points to everybody else per game they give up 119 when they played Joker SGA said he has the answers to the test Yokic has the answers to the test against O KC can't write him off 3 and no No doubt, but those games are, all the games have been single digits.
Starting point is 00:24:47 They've all come down to the end. And then, Brew, this is the last thing and there's no graphic here. This is just more of a feel for it. I don't think I've ever seen a deeper team than Oklahoma City. Hartnstein out last night. Caruso out last night. The good Jaylon Williams, who if people forget, he had three NBA finals games where he scored more than 25 points. He had a 40-point finals game.
Starting point is 00:25:11 He was all-NBA defense last year. He's an all-star last year. He's out. Their other Jalen Williams had 29 last night. Jared McCain had the best plus minus of any player in the game. This team is so incredibly well-constructed and deep. I don't, we've seen maybe better, more spectacular starting fives. We've seen better duos at the top.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I honestly, in my 30 years of watching basketball closely, I don't think I've ever seen a deeper basketball team. than the Oklahoma City. No, look, they're very deep. I think the system, I feel, has something to do with that. But it does feel like you can just plug guys in. Even when SGA was out, they kept winning. They had a winning record even when he was out.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I agree with you because my other take was Denver. Don't write him out. Now, I would not, I don't think, pick them to win the West. But I do think they're capable. They have been struggling. They're now the six seed. They're a game and a half ahead of Phoenix. for seventh.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah. All right. So if they fall out of the top six, then anything can happen in these one, two game situations in the play in. But if they're in the top six, you have to take them seriously and give them a shot of at least
Starting point is 00:26:29 knocking out one of the top, like OKC, which I think they could knock out OKC or San Antonio or even winning the whole West. Because last night, Aaron Gordon, or Aaron Gordon was back. It was just his second game back, but he didn't play well in his first game. Last night, 23 and 10, he's getting back to himself, it seems,
Starting point is 00:26:51 and then give Jamal Murray credit, play through that ankle injury. So if Denver's issue is health. Even healthy, they're not guaranteed to win the West. But if they go into the playoffs at full strength, then OKC, Denver, San Antonio, and I'll still throw Minnesota in there as a sport, but they're right there with those teams. Next game is April 10th in Denver. I'd like to see Denver win one of them before I start to believe in it. We saw three in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Sure. The Eagles be worried. Next, three is not enough for the rest. Yeah, you got to win four. Yeah, that's right. Welcome back to first things first. Greg Jennings is here with a great looking tie. Welcome back, Greg.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I like to see. Check out the YouTube channel if you get a chance in our podcast. Where are we at, Gianna? Number 41. What? We gotta work harder on that. So check out the podcast. I liked it better when you were lying.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Number three in the world. I keep people on their toes. Great news. Gino Smith is back on the Jets. Started his career 2013 in New York before bouncing around. Finding success in Seattle where he won comeback player the year. Sent a text to Ian Rappaport. Text from a pumped Gino Smith.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Complete full circle moment back to where it all began. I'm excited to connect to connect. I'm excited to connect with my new teammates and coaches and everyone in the building, as well as build a new relationship with the fan base and community. I love this. Brew, what is there not to love? What is there not to love about this story? Honestly, I would feel this way for any quarterback going to the Jets.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I mean, look, I know Gino was not good last year. I had my fun with the Gino and all that. And I don't know if he's going to turn it around or not. I feel like he is not going to turn it around with the Jets. And look, if he had gone somewhere else, Minnesota or Pittsburgh even, like, I would feel like, okay, I'm willing to give him a chance because he was so good those previous three years,
Starting point is 00:29:04 maybe last year was just a bad situation. He's going to another bad situation. In fact, this one might be even worse. And maybe I'm even pumped up more about this because of what we just saw. Sam Darnold, this is what teams want. We got the number three pick in a quarterback heavy draft. We got Sam Darnold. What was Zach Wilson?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Two, second pick? Yeah. We got Zach. Neither one of them panned out for him. And it turns out Sam Darnold was actually a Super Bowl winning quarterback. They didn't know what to do with him. So you mean to tell him you think they're going to resurrect G-Nos? Look, I don't know if anybody else wanted Gino, so I'm good.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I don't think it needs resurrecting. Well, after last year, it does. That's it. It was just, it was just a bad day. Yeah, but it was. It was a bad 15 games. But with him. But it's a long day.
Starting point is 00:29:55 No, if you dress great, if Greg dresses great every day, and then one day. And then one day. Three months straight of not dressing well, that changes it. It's just the Raiders. Who was good on the Raiders? Is Pete Carroll not a good coach? Zashogetty can't run the ball? Max Crosby is the only guy who was any good on the Raiders last year,
Starting point is 00:30:13 and they sat him down. The Jets are just as, if not worse. Now that is a good point. That's the, he got Garrett Wilson. He got Breastard. They got some, I just, I hope I'm wrong. I just feel bad for Gina. I'm not making fun of him.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I feel bad for him. So for the Jets, the positive side of this. Yes. The Jets got better at quarterback. Yes. They improved at quarterback. That is the name of the game. You want to get better at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Clearly, I don't know how you feel about it with the look on your face. Well, I'm just saying. With Gino. Hard to get worse. This is a lot of what happened last year, I'm not excluding Gino from the mix because he could have played and he should have played better. But when you have an offensive line that doesn't show up, that you got people in your defenders in your face every single snap, you start to change and look. lose your fundamentals. And we saw that.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Interceptions spiked, mightily, decision making, even some of the accuracy. And he wasn't what we saw in the previous years with Seattle. However, when you go to a team like the Jets where you were drafted by this organization,
Starting point is 00:31:29 you were young, you weren't the player that you hoped to be for the organization, and obviously you didn't care for how the organization was run then. But you were a much mature player, You've proven that you can play in this league. So there's no doubt that he can play.
Starting point is 00:31:46 It's a matter of can he be what they need him to be prior to them getting their guy? Because Gino's not the long-term answer. He's just again, and we use this word with a lot of teams that struggle to find their quarterback. He's just a bridge guy right now. Bridge to what? That's the problem with them. Everybody has been a bridge guy, but he's probably one of the better bridge guys. that we've seen go back to New York.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I'm with all that. Listen, I think that Gino Smith did not have a lot of options in terms of I can go somewhere and be a starter. I don't think he's, I got to imagine, text to Ian Rappaport aside. Like, if he could pick where he would go, I'm sure he would prefer to go to Minnesota and throw it to Justin Jefferson. Maybe he would prefer to go some of these other places. But he's like, Gino Smith threw 17 interceptions in 15 games last year. He was awful.
Starting point is 00:32:41 The three years before that, he was top eight in yards, touchdowns, and completion percentages, over a three-year bodywork. So I absolutely believe that Gino was better than what he showed with the Raiders. But this is the part that on just like a human level, and you could probably speak to this. Like, he's 35 years old and he has 98 starts. He had a seven-year stretch of time where he only started five football games because he was a backup, like post the Jets. Yeah. Gino probably just wants to play football. Oh, you'll let me be a starter?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Okay, I'll go there. Even if I can't really win, even if the organization treated me poorly in the past, even if the fans treated me poorly. Like, he didn't have six options. He had this option where he could be a starter. So he took it. Yeah, again, when you get drafted by a team, you hope to be what they drafted.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And you want to see that really pan out. He has an opportunity to do what a lot of us dream. If the Packers had come to me at the end of my career and said, hey, Greg, you want to come back? I'm like, yeah. And I go there and I continue to have success. That's just like a bow on the end of my career. That's Gino right now.
Starting point is 00:33:54 He's going there on a mission. Yeah, you want to be the reason why you turn the organization around. But I don't think that's the driving force. He just wants to get them started in the right direction. That means something. Yes. For the Jets, they're not S-Bob. They just need to get up to we're a serious franchise.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And Aaron Glenn is a serious guy. And now we have a serious quarterback. Mika Fitzpatrick, like the defense can be, I don't know, something. The Jets are not well run historically. Now they have some serious players. Yeah, look, I'm not down in Gino on this. I agree with Danny. Like, this might be the only chance he would have had to start.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And I get it. Go somewhere and start. want to back up anymore, but I just feel like I love it. I think it's a storybook ending. I do too. I love it. Is it going to be storybook if they're one in six and he's got, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:47 one and a half picks per game? No. I'm just and that would be bad. I just think it could end up being in a that would that wouldn't be great. I just feel for you, man. I just feel like the idea of Gino getting a fresh start back
Starting point is 00:35:03 from the team that drafted. Okay. Afternoon headline sponsored by Hilton Garden and Hilton. It's for the stay. Eagles GM, Howie Roseman, known for making deals. So far? Not so much. Headline from the Delaware News Journal, Martin Frank.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Why Eagles Free Agency disaster will only get worse. Can they respond? Article wasn't as caustic as the headline. Actually, had some faith in Howie Roseman. I mean, in Philly, they're like, oh, that's nice. Nevertheless. Jahan Dotson went to the Falcons. Jalen Phillips went to the Panthers, Nikobie Dean to the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:35:35 read Blankenship to the Texans, which I love for the Texans. Don't forget I'm very high on the Texans. A lot of people saying they had an all-time great defense last year until they got to the playoffs all of a sudden they were no good. Quarterback. Quarterback is sneaky great. The quarterback of the Texans? Yes, I believe in the quarterback and the Texans in a major way.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But hold on, we've got to talk about the Eagles. Should Eagles fans be concerned this lack of movement? Craig? No. No. Howie Roseman has a track record of making the best moves and the right moves and putting this team in position
Starting point is 00:36:09 to where they can compete for championships. Now, it didn't happen last year, but just because it doesn't start the way everybody else's offseason starts and you're losing some of your players, look, Jalen Phillips, really good player. He didn't produce
Starting point is 00:36:26 the sack numbers. Now, the pressure, he gets pressure. Top four in pressure. I love what he is able to do. But at that price point, you're not going to pay him that amount of money on that team to be that. When you have other guys on that defensive line that you know you're going to eventually have to pay. Now, Nacobo Deen, injury riddled, important piece in the locker room has been effective but not a staple. We don't talk about, we don't say, Nicole Dean, did you see Nicole Dean? We don't say that when we talk about this Eagles team, played about 50-something percent
Starting point is 00:37:03 of the snaps. Now, Reed Blankenship, he was a staple on that defense. Yeah. Like, he played, there was only two players that played more defensive snaps than he. That was Zach Bond and Cooper DeGine. So Reed Blankenship is going to be a tough one to replace. I trust Howie Roseman because of how he's run this organization and because of the pieces that he's brought in and how they've impacted that team. Howie Roseman deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:37:30 No question. Yeah, I'm with you. I think we'd all agree on that. There is a point where you can reach a tipping point of just too much lost talent, though. Like, you know, we talk about the chief's not paying cornerbacks. Howie Roseman hasn't paid edge rushers, right? So Jalen Phillips got too expensive. Josh Sweat, Hassan Reddick, Bryce Huff.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Like, he pays guys for like a year or two, a little amount of money, and then they get comp picks when they leave. Like, they've got a formula there. They paid Zach Bond. They lose Nicobie Dean. They drafted Jehad Campbell to replace him. Like, they definitely have a plan. But when you add up last year's losses after the Super Bowl year with Milton Williams, plus all of these losses, plus the cap situation they're in, like,
Starting point is 00:38:11 if they trade A.J. Brown before June 1st, I look this up today. It's a $72 million cap hit. We probably save that topic until June. That's the thing. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen if it ever. So they're just, these moves are not to make them better today. They're to make their financial position better in the future. Like, no one's going to argue the Eagles are a better football team today.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Well, but I do think because last year they were arguably the most talented team in the league, certainly one of the handful of most talented teams. So they could lose some talent and still be contender status. And then when you put on there Howie Roseman and you know he's going to make some smart moves, look, I think they'll have enough talent to be a contender. My question is the culture there. I could see this being a year that it just goes south for them because of the culture. culture because of it feels, you know, a lot of it's A.J. Brown who will probably be back,
Starting point is 00:39:07 it looks like. Maybe it falls over this year. Wow. But I think the biggest thing for them is what, what do the other teams in the division do? If Dallas doesn't improve defensively, if Washington, which, you know, presumably will have Jaden Daniels there the whole season, but what if they're not as good as we might expect? And what if the Giants don't take the jump under Harbaugh, then the Eagles still could be atop the division. But if those three teams or a couple of them get as good as some people think,
Starting point is 00:39:36 and I think they could make jumps, that's when I think it could be tough for the Eagles. Okay. Dust, do you want to do Tua or are we standing by? We do not want to do it to a Tua. I've got lots of stats that say you're still good. Mike Evans teaming up with Brock and Kyle Tannan. This topic can't come fast. This topic can't come fast.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Greg, his 11-year streak of 1,000-yard seasons ended last year after he missed. nine games, are you willing to guarantee that he tops 1,000 yards this year? If Mike Evans stays healthy, he tops 1,000 yards this year. Absolutely. Look, when you, why am I going to doubt him? He's done it his entire year with the exception of last year getting hurt. He probably would have done it again last year. Like, this guy just knows how to catch the ball, gain yards, put the ball in the end zone, and stay in a position to where he's eclipsing this 1,000 yard mark. And if it were, and again, he's been doing it since, I mean, I was in the league, but like, a thousand yards today is not that much of a feat. It's like...
Starting point is 00:40:49 Because of the game or the style of the game? The style of the game, the way of which we throw the ball now, it's like a lot of people, a lot of guys can get 1,000 yards. But Mike Evans, in that system having a running game, a lot of his years in Tampa, he never had a running game. It was a passing game and he still was able to produce. He is going to have a running attack. You are going to have to play the run. You get Mike Evans on the outside and a Kyle Shanahan offense schemeed up. You got George Kittle to obviously focus on if you're a defender.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Mike Evans is going to get a thousand yards. Stefan Diggs did it with your Patriots. And a lot of people doubt that. That was coming off of his injury. I tend to agree with you. And I think he can have a big year for them, particularly in the red zone. Like I think he has a lot of touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I would not be surprised if he has double-digit touchdowns. Purdy is very good in the red zone. And I think, you know, obviously Evans is too. My only question about the thousand yards, we're assuming health, of course, is they have so many other weapons that Purdy might be thrown through. Now, they won't throw to McCaffrey as much this year because now they'll have better receipts.
Starting point is 00:41:59 receivers. But McCaffrey's going to get his yardage. Kittle's going to get his yardage. If Pierceaw stays healthy, he's a weapon. And Jennings, we'll see if they keep Joanne. Jenny's a free agent. But if Jennings is healthy, that's another weapon. So I could just see them spreading the wealth and maybe that would keep him, even though he might have 900-something yards, but 10 or 11 touchdowns. But I tend to agree with you that I would think he's going to get there. The comp I would make, and it's kind of sounds like aligned with your thinking, is the season Devante Adams just had. Devante Adams only caught 60 balls. You had like high 700 yards in terms of production.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Played in 14 games. So, you know, that accounts for age and maybe missing a couple of games due to injury. But he had 14 touchdowns and led the league in touchdowns. They spread the ball around a lot. They run the ball a lot in a Shanahan system. We looked at it up like there have been seven 1,000 yards seasons. Four of them were to kiddle. one of them was the Debo kind of a unique Swiss Army knife player
Starting point is 00:43:00 Brandon Iyukes the only like true wide receiver who's had a thousand yards season and he was barely over a thousand he did it twice and yeah but but so is he talented enough to do it yeah but something tells me just like because of his age and how they'll use him it'll be more about like the red zone more like touch more touchdowns short yardage use him in that way yeah look he's definitely going to get used
Starting point is 00:43:22 in the red zone a lot more fade balls a little different style of how you use him than Devante because Devante's primary usage was because of how he releases off the ball, line of scrimmage, and when you look at that offense, Pooka Nicole was going to get the lion's share of the targets 20 to 20.
Starting point is 00:43:41 This, I just I look at this different. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Pierceall, I think Pierceall is going to emerge because we saw glimpses of him being a little bit more productive. But somebody's going to have to be the number
Starting point is 00:43:56 one guy. It's not going to be Christian McCaffrey again as a receiver, not with Mike Evans, not with Pierceaw, and I don't think Jennings will really be in the equation this year. We'll see how that works out. But I just believe Mike Evans, knowing his track record, his resume, Kyle Shanahan will always have something cooked up for him and this in the back of his mind. If he's healthy, I want to try to get, yeah. Speaking of number one wide receivers, the Patriots just got Romeo Dobbs. Greg? You should like it. Excellent. More.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Hey, well, what? Oh, sugar plums. Can we remind the audience please? I forgot about this. No, no, no. I'm not going to let you get away with it. I forgot about that. We have to remind the audience.
Starting point is 00:44:38 We have a little debt to settle, please. If Mike Evans leaves Tampa Bay, I will cook this into a donut and eat it. There's the script that there is zero chance. There is zero chance. Zero chance. chance. I was just shocked. I thought it was posturing. No, no, no. I thought I was posturing for more money. He loved. Oh, man. He loved Tampa Bay. Can I have your script, please? Tampa Bay loved him. Script, please. First of all. First of all, hand me one of those hold on one second. This is the Mike Evans script. That's the weird and wonderful script. Come on now. It's making a lot of noise. Are you going to do that to the donuts?
Starting point is 00:45:19 A lot of, a lot of noise here. Wait some good donuts. Put that in there, official. Thank you very. So the audience knows we're not cheating this. Thank you. Let's see if I can do this. Thank you. All right. A little something like to do. D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Thank you. Look, you said you do it. I'm a gambler. We have to settle our debts on this show. It's only right. It's just paper, wow. It's only paper. And there's goodies underneath that paper.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah. Enjoy it. As far as Betts go. I'm not thrilled with this. That being said, I've seen some pretty gross bets paid online. That's not one of them. Having a little bit of script, let me get a good enough. Mike Evans, I hope you have a great year.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I really, I hope you have a sweet and delicious season with a 49. Cheers. Yeah. That's a good. That's a good trip. I honestly shows the power of a donut. It's not bad at all. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Of course it's not bad. I have another bite. Yeah, again, it might ruin the bit. Eat the whole thing. Like, I'm not mad at it. Oh, pass me a script donut. Pass me a script donut. It's good at the break.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Of course. That's fine. Live from New York, the show that is finally talking about Drake May and some moves that the Patriots made. It's been a while, and the next move will be in June. Just some, just some salary cap stuff with a, Jay Brown, June. So you still have AJ Brown as a Patriot? Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:02 You don't think it's happening? Yeah, I don't think it's happening either. I bought a bunch of those books. You just told me everything I need to know. I'll save it from that time. Excellent. Second hour of first things first. Today is Tua the answer for the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Some very interesting stats about Tua and Atlanta that might make you say, hmm, maybe they don't These are to be in the last place in the division. Meanwhile, Ken Rosenthal with us to talk about WBC. What's the deal with Scuba with Greg Loves, even though he said I'm out of here. I gave you some meanings and I'm gone. But right now, check in on the Super Bowl silver medalist.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Added Elijah Vera Tucker to shore up a leaky offensive line, which at times caused Drake May to run for his life. And happening just before the first. the show, Romeo Dobbs. 25 years old. Some touchdowns last year for the Packers. That's good. Feel pretty good.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Here are the moves that the Patriots made. Those were Draymont Jones we didn't even talk about from the Ravens. Max Crosby and Draymond Jones to the Patriots. Stefan leaving Garrett Bradbury to the Bears, Tonga to the Chiefs, and Tovi. I don't think he has signed anywhere yet. So Greg will start with you, since you're familiar with Romeo Dobbs. How should Drake May feel about these moves? Look, he should be excited about this move.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I really like Romeo Dobbs. I know a lot of people who watch the Packers play, they won by committee. They didn't have a true number one guy. You're obviously Christian Watson, Jaden Reed. We know Matthew Golden, all the guys that they had. But the one guy who was always a constant when available, when he wasn't having one of his head issues and concussion issues, was Romeo Dobbs.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And he's developed every single year as a better route runner, a better deep ball catcher, a better overall wide receiver. He's great at the line of scrimmage. He shows up in big games. His numbers in the postseason. I think he's averaging like 90 yards a game in the postseason. I think he has either three or four postseason games. But he's a big time player.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Is he a true number one? We're going to find out. I don't know. I think he has the potential to be. He's a lot bigger than I think people think he's about six, four. What? Two, yeah, yeah, he's a lot taller than what people would have hammered the under on that. I thought it was the guardian cap.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah, he's, don't, don't let the guardian cap. He's six four. Oh, great. That's great. He's a tall player. But he can run the entire route tree. I like the, when you get rid of a guy like Stefan Diggs, you have to bring in somebody that can create separation. When we talk about separators in our league, we think about Devonte Adams, Pooka, Nicole, those types.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Romeo Dobbs is right there with him. Love it. He separates. When you have a young quarterback and you are asking him to shoulder your offense and in support of the run game and everything, you need to have receivers that can separate. If there's one thing Romeo Dobbs can do, he can separate. He understands because he's been in a system and in a unit room
Starting point is 00:50:12 that challenges one another. It's not just been about one player, but they all have this appetite to be the one. And so now he'll get the opportunity. We'll see what he does. does with it, but this is a big move for New England. I like it. Are they better today? Yes. Like, today they are better because they added Romeo Dobbs.
Starting point is 00:50:34 But like if we just, if we throw up the addition and subtraction list again from the Super Bowl, like the ads are what they are. But like, obviously you got to get somebody who's going to snap the ball to your quarterback. Yeah, that, that would help. I think Jared Wilson is just going to slide over. He's going to slide over. He's going to be the center. So I think that was the plan. And that's why. by Bradbury was available. But, like, Diggs was very good, and you would probably sign up for Romeo Dobbs
Starting point is 00:50:59 to just give you Stefan Diggs's production from last year. You think he's going to be better? Yeah,000 yards. Yeah. Really? Yeah, see, so that's the thing. Like, I, listen, I watch Romeo Dobbs very closely, maybe not quite as closely as you.
Starting point is 00:51:13 If the Packers, who have used not the most premium resources historically on wide receiver, but they invested in Christian Watson. They invested in Romeo Dobbs. They used the first round pick on Matthew Goldman. And they were like, we can afford to let this guy go. This is what they do. This is what they do.
Starting point is 00:51:29 They have all these goods at that position. Yeah. And so somebody, you have to allow Matthew Golden to get on the field. And so by default, Romeo Dobbs is the guy that's out. Listen, I think Dobbs is a good player. I do have questions about whether or not when he's getting the primary focus of a defensive coordinator in the passing. We have to stop Romeo Dobbs. I do have questions about whether or not he could be a one.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I do think he's a very good red zone guy. He's very aggressive going up and getting the ball. I just think they've lost about as much talent as they've gained. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm not sure that they are a much better team post Super Bowl. But they're in a good cap position. They got a good coach. They have a good quarterback.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I just think that this is, they're kind of a round neutral right now from where they were post Super Bowl. Dobbs is a good receiver. I don't think he's a one, Greg. Like, don't you think if he were a one, he would have emerged? as the one there in Green Bay? I know they got a bunch of good receivers, but you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:29 Like, I think he had that opportunity. And Wild's what you said about still thinking you're getting A.J. Brown. That tells me everything I need to know. You don't think he's a one. If this is the situation come September, to Danny's point, you're not going to be happy. It's a little bit of a logical corner of you painting. Like, Dobbs is a good addition with boo.
Starting point is 00:52:54 and if you get an AJ Brown or enough, I just don't think he's a number one. And so that's where I'm at. And look, I'm pro, Dobbs has done some good things. I'm a little stung. Because last year the Packers were my
Starting point is 00:53:10 pick in the NFC. And this just, it's hard for me to get this out of my mind. It just stung me. It hurt me. Danny loved it. I think we got it. Oh, no, no. You're on the shore. hands team.
Starting point is 00:53:24 No, no, that, what a moment. The sure hand team. He was talking about this upstairs. I was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:53:29 Patriots got roaming me a dive. He was like, I don't know. Greg. I mean, Greg. Am I tripping? I mean, swipe it out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:53:37 What? Whoa. But it's easy to catch, though. It is. The sure hands team. Look. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:53:43 That moment, that was a low light. That killed. Yes. Yes. So that makes me a little, and I get it, that wasn't even a catch as a receipt of
Starting point is 00:53:51 platform. That hurts me. for what we now know as Iceman. Yeah. That that's a, that whole rally. So you're saying it's a lucky play. That's what is, um, I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about it.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I feel good about everything. I mean, you're right about everything. Well, here's sir. As long as we get eight years. Lamar, I remember Lamar tweeted that, uh, training day, Denzo Washington. So I was like, we can't, I think that was a max treasury. We can't get to the quarterback. We got Max Crosby.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Mahomes tweeted some biceps. We can't run the ball. we got Kenneth Walker. Josh Allen doesn't tweet, but I'm sure he's happy. DJ Moore arrived. Drake needed protection. Look, if Elijah Vera Tucker is healthy, we're in business, we need a number one.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Stefan's gone. Romeo's in. I would really like AJ Brown. That's the thing. I don't have the stats in front of me. I don't, number one, like Justin Jefferson, the Patriots haven't really had that since Randy Moss. even like throughout all of Josh McDaniels time
Starting point is 00:54:55 it's a lot of tight ends slot receivers during that time Tom Brady's very good Drake is great he ain't Tom Brady what's the last game you saw Drake in besides he was doing a little clinic in Hawaii he's not Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:55:11 well he did go to Super Bowl at his second year all right all right got to get some better receiver if Justin Herbert didn't get an MVP vote he would be tied for MVP co-MVP it's top 10 Tuesdays It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Obviously, it's a great day. Free Agency edition. Today it's the top 10 winners of free agency. Teams, players, people, and my favorite concepts. Concepts. I love it. All right, kick us off. Top 10 Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Thank you. I'm here for it. Kevin Wilde. I'm glad you're here for it, but you're not going to go anywhere. Coming in number 10, this one is pretty simple. We're going to try not to just, you know, count the bag for all of these guys. But Malik Willis, less than 10 starts in your career, living in Tennessee and Green Bay, you just got $45 million guaranteed to go live in South Beach.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Pretty good deal. And your coach and GM thought enough of your limited time in Green Bay. They get the job in Miami. They decide to bring you over. And with the guarantees, you probably have a two-year runway to prove it because Miami's going to be pretty bad this year. Coming in at number nine, this one pains me. Nick Wright, guys in Japan, and he's built fame and fortune off LeBron James and the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And his chiefs, when he's gone, gets Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker, and they're still going to be in the cultural zeitgeist because they bring back one of the most famous athletes in the world in Travis Kelsey. It's annoying. Now, will they make the playoffs? Listen, that's a problem for future Nick Wright. For today in free agency. I love the B-Role. It's good B-Role. It's good B-Role.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I love the action. Did Nick, Sid, did he text you those? I have much more incriminating video I could have given the production staff. Coming in at number eight, top winners of free agency, Jalen Phillips, my goodness. Number eight. Right, you can make an argument that he's higher. I got $120 million coming off of five sacks. 17 games, five sacks.
Starting point is 00:57:07 You're right, Brew, like the pressure numbers are there and suggest that he should have much more production. I don't know if he's going to have that production in Carolina, but that guy got paid off of limited production and the two years before that serious injury questions. He doesn't have one great season ever and he just got $120 million. Coming in at number seven, this is where concepts comes into play. The Chargers. I feel like I could have put me here because last year you guys beat me up a lot for my Chargers takes and my Herbert takes.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And now I come in on the day one of free agency. They didn't even do a lot of things with Addick and Brew's like, I got them with the business. Mills and the Ravens is the best team of the AFC. Wild's like, the Chargers are going to be scared. What were there major moves, though? Because I know Mike McDaniel. But then my point is.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And then the healthy line. We did a free agency show yesterday, and you guys both said in passing almost, we're picking the Chargers in the AFC West. We're a Chargers show, guys. We're a Chargers show. Well, then Nick shouldn't be on there because that's not good for Nick. Well, I mean, that's why he was seven and the Chargers were seven. And Nick, uh, nine, whatever he was.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Coming in number six, this one is easy. Brock Purdy, you got Mike Evans. You got Mike Evans. You got a guy who has 1,000 yards and double-digit touchdowns basically every year. He is going to elevate you. We talk about all the weapons that he's had. That is a true, legitimate weapon to add the rich,
Starting point is 00:58:32 getting richer in the arms race of the NFC West. Coming in at number five, Kyler Murray hasn't signed yet, but Minnesota is still available. Minnesota did not make a move for a different level. They didn't make a Gino move. They didn't make a to a move. Kyler can't really contact teams legally until tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:58:51 although legal tampering seems to not really be a thing in the NFL. But the fact that Minnesota is still available, and he could step into a top 10 defense, a top 10 play caller, a top five wide receiver, and all he has to do is beat out JJ McCarthy, and it probably wouldn't even be a competition because they would just trade JJ. Kyler Murray has to love how free agency has fallen so far.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Coming in at number four, the box! I didn't think we'd see it for months and it made a comeback I mean that's America's favorite bit and it made a comeback I think they overpaid for it but I didn't think we'd see the box until September at the earliest
Starting point is 00:59:27 and free agency brings us the return of Brew's beloved Yeah, no, and everybody loved it. Coming in to number three Les Sneed FM picks is just a vibe and a mantra. The guy has used
Starting point is 00:59:43 one first round pick in eight years and he hit it out of the park in Jared Burns. And they're like, hey, your whole secondary is bad. We need to remake it. He's like, no problem. And he just in 48 hours he makes a trade, he gives
Starting point is 01:00:00 out the biggest contract ever to a corner, he signs two other guys, and he wakes up the next day and they're the favorites to win the Super Bowl. Everybody tries to build through the draft and he's like, but I just need to retool an entire secondary in 48 hours? No problem. Coming in to number two, So this is back to pocket watching a little bit, I'll admit.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Alec Pierce, man, good year to be a guy who had 47 catches last year. He got $116 million because the Colts said we went all in on Daniel Jones, we went all in for trading for Sauce Gardner, then Daniel Jones got hurt, and so we have to justify the move for Daniel Jones, and he was great throwing to Alec Pierce, so we have to bring back Alex Pierce. but 15 other teams wanted out with Pierce. So I doubt that I doubt if the number would have been at 29 a year. But Greg, he's the ninth highest paid wide receiver in the league right now. Yeah. And I don't, it always feels mean-spirited to say, does he deserve that? But do you view him as the ninth best?
Starting point is 01:01:03 No. No. And I don't believe that they view him as the ninth best. But given all of what you said. Price of business. Price of business. and he fits what they want to display offensively. Now, he has a lot of maturing to do as a total and complete wide receiver. You talk about Romeo Dobbs not being a true number one.
Starting point is 01:01:23 We're going to see if Alec Pierce is a true number one. So what do you mean by that? Running the entire route tree, getting the best defender. Like, there's no more Michael Pittman, Jr. Obviously, you got Tyler Warren and you got a great running game. And the system fits who he is as a receiver, but you have to develop your skill set. You have to be able to run slants. He's not a great slant runner.
Starting point is 01:01:44 He's not a great intermediate route runner. He's a deeper route runner with play action game because they obviously utilize who they have in the backfield and Jonathan Taylor. But look, man, I'm not mad at him. It's just an unbelievable year. I would have him probably at number one, to be honest. The only guy I felt like I could put above him
Starting point is 01:02:04 was Fernando Mendoza, who's going to be the number one pick to the Raiders. And if you would have said to me, I love it. Four months ago. Hey. What type of situation is the number one pick heading into? It was all bad. It was a disaster.
Starting point is 01:02:20 And now you look up, yeah, they had Genty four months ago. Yeah, they had Bauer four months ago. But they've hired Clint Kubiak, who offensive-minded guy, helped Sam Darnold, a play caller, offensive head coach. You go out and you sign Tyler Lindervaum. So now you like Colton Miller at left guard. You love Linderbom, three-time Pro Bowl at center. You like Jackson Powers Johnson at right guard. You like 60% of your offensive line.
Starting point is 01:02:43 You like tight end. You like play caller. You like Jaylen Naylor coming in. You like running back. You like Jaylen Naylor. And they have the 14th pick in the trade for Max Crosby. If they want, go get a right tackle or someone else on offense. Like it's just.
Starting point is 01:02:58 So let's go. Keep going. Well, he's not walking into a bad situation anymore. Let's just do it. You sound like Nick. Someone, let's do it. Let's do it. We saw it with Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Playoffs in Vegas? Playoffs? Are you saying that? It used to be out of the question, but it's not out of the question anymore. It's on the board. It is on the board. It's not predictions week yet. I'm not ready to say.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah, I don't know if it's on the board. They can lose 3528. In that division? Right. But the whole goal is if you draft a quarterback number one, that you're not drafting them into a position where like we can't even evaluate with him or we're going to fail. Like all it's not a bad situation for him to go into,
Starting point is 01:03:40 especially. If they use that 14th pick for another player, like he's, he's not in a, as bad of a spot as he was. That'd be great. Eight, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:48 if he could get him to eight wins and play well. Oh, yeah. But Danny's saying, playoff. I'm just saying, we're going to have to, we're going to have to talk about it. Like,
Starting point is 01:03:55 they have invested heavily in, in the office. Hobbs had 30th worst odds to make the playoffs. He didn't even look that up. He has a Raiders fan. He just not know. Oh, listen, they have one of his tattoos.
Starting point is 01:04:07 They have no talent on defense. And they are going to be, doing a first time head coach at a first time. I got to look at it. Josh, who did the Raiders sign on defense? Kobe Dean. Oh, no, who mean? Yes, of course.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah, okay. Quay Walker. Yep, they got Quay Walker. Okay, so they got some linebackers. Look, I'm not mad at it. It's just Fernando Mendoza's position today is a lot better than it was 48 hours ago. Okay. He's in a pretty good spot.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Greg, are you adding anybody? Yeah, honorable mention for me, and this team, they lost a lot, but the New York Giants. And I'm starting all the way when the coaching, higher. John Harbaugh, obviously you lose Wondell Robinson, which would have, it would have been nice to be able to hold on to him, but you add Isaiah likely another pass catcher or a tight end. You got to love that. And then you lose your corner and flot, your young corner and Cordell Flot, but you then bring in Greg Newsom. So what you lose, you ended up getting and retrieving. And when you look at this young offense now, you're like, man, Malik neighbors held
Starting point is 01:05:10 We got a good tight end. We got a running game that we can kind of support our running back. We got the head coach in position. We're bolstering up our defense a bit. Like, Tremaine, they got your guy from Chicago, a veteran guy inside backer, Tremaine Edmonds. They are putting strategic pieces together so that they can be ready to roll when the season hits. And we'll see what they do with the draft.
Starting point is 01:05:37 But I like what the New York Giants are doing. No, I agree with that. I'm going to add a guy I hate to lose, but Tyler Linderbaum. Three years, 81 million. As good as Linderbom is, I don't think he's as good as Crete Humphrey. And Humphrey was making $18 million a year. Linderbom is making $27 million a year. That jump, $9 million a year at that position, good for him.
Starting point is 01:06:05 27 million a year at 25 years old to live in Vegas. But is he happy, you know? Again, again, situation, got a young quarterback. You kind of want to have him have some support. You got to get him. You can call the offense, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. I love it.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Welcome back to first things first talking world baseball classic. Team USA defeats Mexico five to three. USA now undefeated play Italy in the pastquatch in his espresso tonight. Joining us now to discuss everything is Ken Rosenthal. Ken, thanks for joining. and us. We're here, too. Well, I'm sorry, because you guys have been making fun of me because I'm a Red Sox fan,
Starting point is 01:06:47 but I also got made fun of online because as soon as Aaron Judge hit the home run, I use the All-Rise gift. And then Roman Anthony did it. So Danny is making fun of me saying I'm not allowed to be a Roman Anthony and an Aaron Judge fan. I'm saying I get a pass because it's Team USA, and it's part of one of the great parts of the World Baseball Classic. Okay, I give you a pass, too. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Thank you, Kat. I didn't know that was a question. Like, right. I think the question is the camaraderie of the team of all these different guys, rivals, kind of joining all together. What have you make of that? There's no question that that is occurring. And it's been a big part of actually what the manager,
Starting point is 01:07:33 Mark DeRosa wanted to achieve with this team, beyond the performance on the field. He wanted a band of brothers. And he put the team together, not just because he had. these all best players, but also because he wanted them to have a certain chemistry, a certain character to them. They've been talking with each other after games, during games, before games, going out to dinners with each other, and they have formed in a very short amount of time, this close bond. And I don't know that that translates to on-field performance, but there's
Starting point is 01:08:04 definitely something going on there, and they seem to be playing for a higher cause. They are absolutely into the fact that they're playing for the country. Yeah, you can feel it, Ken, and it really feels like they want to win this one, where some of them in the past have just felt like, okay, we'll show up. It's an exhibition. But to that situation, the pitching situation where, you know, Scoob will won't be pitching again. Do you see that changing maybe over time where we will not limit our pitchers? Because that seems to be the one thing that can hold us back if we can't throw
Starting point is 01:08:42 our best pitchers as much as we want to. Well, there are always going to be pitcher limits as long as this event is held in spring training. And those limits are not set by the U.S. They're set by the tournament themselves. It's a 65 pitch limit for this first round. What Scoobel ran into was more a scheduling issue. As he's getting ready for the season, his free agent season, in a year in which he could
Starting point is 01:09:04 end up making $400 million. He wanted to stay on a certain routine and he couldn't make it work pitching once where it all balanced out. He could pitch in the final end for USA and then opening day. He just could not do the math or make the math work for him. Now, in the future, a guy like that, and we might not see a guy like that even participate in the WBC again for the U.S. But in the future, a guy like Scoobel would think to himself, you know what, I want to be part of this the whole time. I want to pitch twice instead of once. There are only seven games. He wasn't going to pitch more than twice. And perhaps he would.
Starting point is 01:09:42 would set his schedule from the start differently. Ken, the lineups feels overwhelming. They're obviously the favorites. Is there a flaw on Team USA? I don't know that there's a flaw, but I don't know that I would say that they're the favorites either. If you look at the Dominican lineup, it is every bit as strong as Team USA's. We're talking about Tatis, Guerrero, Machado, on and on and on, Catelle-Marroldo,
Starting point is 01:10:08 Heraldo, Pardomo. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few as well. So that is a very talented group. Oh, I know who I'm forgetting. Juan Soto, that guy. He's pretty good. They're pretty good. And Japan is really good as well.
Starting point is 01:10:20 We've seen that already. They won their group rather easily. So I don't know that I would say USA is the favorite, but I would say this. This is the best USA team we've seen in the six classics. And that includes the 2017 team that won the gold medal. And it also includes the 2023 team that came really close with, of course, Otani striking out trout for the final out. They were teammates at the time, or was Otani still on the Angels at that time?
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah, okay. So speaking of teammates, last night, Cal and Randy a Rosarena, and this has happened a few times in the tournament. What do you make of the handshake that wasn't? I don't make much of it, and Calerale just spoke at the ballpark to Bob Nightingale of USA today and said there's no beef, there's no problem. Basically what this is is a guy, Raleigh, in the heat of competition, wanting to stay locked in. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:11:18 We saw that earlier in the tournament with an Australian catcher doing the same thing with a Czech player. And we've seen it in the past. Will Smith and a Rosarena in 2023. So these guys are teammates. I don't know that anyone in the sport has ever said a bad word about Kyle Raleigh. And I know a Roserata said some things last night. I haven't talked to Arraserana about that. I half think it was a jest, but at the same time, from Raleigh's perspective, at least, there is no problem.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Do you expect, I mean, Italy tonight, and despite, you know, Vinny Pasquitino, he's our guy, Pasquatch, but do you expect a blowout by Team USA tonight? I don't know that I would say expect that. And if you've watched these games, even against Brazil and Great Britain, they kind of had a hard time getting going, or at times a hard time getting runs home. Now they erupted in both those games. And then in last night's game, they got five early, but they didn't get any more. So it's not Feta Compi at the same time.
Starting point is 01:12:18 They should win. They've got Nolan McLean, a great rookie for the New York Mets pitching tonight. They're facing an Italy team with not just Pasquantino, but Jacob Marcia, the Marlins, a guy who is emerging as a star. They've got some interesting young players as well. And they've got Michael Lorenzen on the mound tonight. So I wouldn't discount the possibility of an upset. But I'm not expecting it either.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Ken, I loved your piece on Bobby Witt. Kind of a sneaky MVP of last night's game, if they were giving out MVPs of individual games here. He's already a star, obviously. So I don't know if you could say he could be a breakout star. But I'm curious, like, if you see him or anyone else using this to kind of catapult into this upcoming baseball season. I actually would say, in some respects,
Starting point is 01:13:05 Bobby Witt is a breakout star, because I don't know that the average fan on the coasts, he is too familiar with his game. He plays in the AL Central in Kansas City, and even though he was second in the AL MVP voting two years ago, fourth last year, he's not necessarily the same kind of household name as, say, Aaron Judge or Otani.
Starting point is 01:13:24 But if you talk to players about him, if you saw my post-game interview with Judge last night, the respect that they have for him is at the same level as the respect they have for those elite players in the game. He does it all. You see the defensive plays there. He obviously did some.
Starting point is 01:13:38 things offensively last night, two doubles, stolen base. He is a guy that is just a brilliant talent, only 25 years old. And yes, I expect his star to continue to rise. And the other guy I would put into this category is Roman Anthony. We didn't see much of him last year. He played less than 80 games, but he's played really well so far in the classic. He's 21 years old, and he's going to be a big star too. I love it. Final thoughts on the best player in the world. And Brew, you say he's the best player of all time. We're running out of adjectives to talk about Otani. He gets up with the bases loaded, gone, had another home run in, I think, the second game.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Has Otani surprised you? Is that even possible? I wouldn't say it's possible at this point. And there is no bar for this guy. There are no limits for him. And when we put limits on him or imagine limits for him, he exceeds them. So whatever Shohei Otani does, yes, it might be. surprising in the moment. Of course, you don't always expect the things that he does. But at the
Starting point is 01:14:44 same time, when you step back, look at what he has accomplished in his career, both as a pitcher and a hitter, he can't ever be surprised. This guy is the best player of this generation, and yes, maybe of all time. So in the classic, he's not going to pitch. That's a little bit different, right, than last time around. But my goodness, with the bat, who knows what havoc he might wreak. I hope he just decides to pitch. Just on a one. whim. Italy versus Team USA tonight at 9 on FS1. Ken, have a great game. Thank you as always. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Ken. More first things first, right after the break. Head down to Atlanta where Tua signs a one-year deal to join fellow lefty Michael Penix in the QB room.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Greg, we've seen some highs and we've seen some lows from Tua. Who should be QB1 in Atlanta? Look, Michael Pennix, Jr., if he's able to get healthy, come back off this injury, off this partial ACL tear, and be healthy and execute, they're going to give him the runway. Like, they want a competition. I'm with you there. One of the reasons if you're Tua that made this a very attractive destination is because their starting quarterback is injured. and I have an opportunity to potentially get a head start in the off season and get all the reps with the ones, if you will.
Starting point is 01:16:12 And so I think Tuel will have a head start, as I mentioned. But Michael Pennix Jr., it's so I do these bodybuilding competitions. We know. Yes. And I always watch when I'm not on stage, there's smaller guys and then there's bigger guys. And a smaller guy is easier to look really good and symmetrical on them. stage and it's like it's impressive. But you want to know what's more impressive?
Starting point is 01:16:39 The bigger guy when he looks even. That's that's Pennix Jr. When he gets on the field and he starts throwing the ball, it's going to look a little different. He has the bigger arm. I know accuracy was an issue last year. Like he has growing to do, but that's why you got Stefansky. You're paying Stefansky to solve either one of these quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:17:02 And so if he's that guy that we believe he is or they believe he is, then be the answer to what Michael Pennix needs to unlock his talent to get him to perform at the higher level. So I agree that if I was running the team, I would want it to be Pennix because I think he represents a higher ceiling. The bigger guy with a bigger arm, right? Just the pure traits of it. But this is going to be.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I think a good old-fashioned quarterback competition. You have a new GM who didn't draft Michael Peddick. We're going to say, well, Michael Pennix was a first-round pick of the Falcons. So? Matt Ryan wasn't there. Ian Cunningham wasn't there. Kevin Stafansky wasn't there. They haven't paid him anything.
Starting point is 01:17:52 They haven't even decided on a fifth-year option for him. Like Michael Pennix has started 12 of the possible, what, 30, how many can't do the man? 12 of 34 games that he was saying, he started 12 of them. And in six of those 12, he's completed less than 60% of his passes. So he hasn't been that good. Two, they're paying him nothing. And he can't stay healthy. And he has a weak arm and he can't see over the offensive line.
Starting point is 01:18:19 And he has a serious concussion history. Michael Penix has a serious ACL history. Like, there's a really good chance that neither of these guys is healthy. Is it healthy for a full season? Or is the long-term answer for Kevin's. DeFansky and the Falcons. Like the odds are, and this isn't maybe the sexiest take, but the odds are this is a competition, and we see both of them this year, because neither one of them is all that impressive. But I do think the traits of Pennix, just pure arm strength
Starting point is 01:18:48 and size, the Falcons would see him as representing a higher ceiling than Tua. But like both of these guys have huge question marks attached. I agree with you that anyone interested in the Falcons would probably prefer that Pinnix be the guy and that he just wins the competition and is their starting quarterback going forward. But I think Tua is the better quarterback. Tua has been Michael, and I get it, he's young, or he's early in his career.
Starting point is 01:19:19 It's a small sample size. But in his two seasons, Pinnick's is four and eight with Kirk Cousins, who obviously was a good quarterback, they're 12 and 10. That's not to mention Pennix is below 60% accuracy or completion percentage. Like, Tua has been a winner.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I know a joke, but it's true. He can't beat. He hasn't beaten the good teams consistently. Hasn't won in cold weather. But Tua's 44 and 32 for his career. And that predates Mike McDaniel, Tyree Hill, all of that stuff. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't know if Pinnix will ever reach the heights as low as they are to compare to some people that Pennix or that Tuas already. Tuas is 44 and 32. Joe Burrow is 43 and 33. So this idea that you can't win with Tua and I know he's not Joe Burrow but the guy has gotten onto the field and left the game winning. The guy wins. Not in the greatest situation
Starting point is 01:20:21 as far as an organization. I love to and I root for Michael Pennix. I'm all in on the Tua reclamation. project. Tua's accurate. I mean, that's a big, there's a big gap in the accuracy between these two. It's all true.
Starting point is 01:20:38 But when you, when you sign up for Tua, which they have signed up for Tua to some, in some regard, and you say he's our starter. Everything needs to be on schedule and on time. Right. If it's not, your offense is going to look completely different.
Starting point is 01:20:54 If you disrupt him, get him outside, off his spot and outside those tackles game set match. You can't continue. You think that's like a non-starter. Kevin Stefansky has been in this quarterback carousel forever since being a head coach. You think he's wanting to do this all over again?
Starting point is 01:21:16 No. So like naturally you've seen your, you're going to watch, he's going to watch extensive tape on Tua. He has more obviously tape on Tua. So he kind of knows what he is. The exciting thing is probably what pennies could potentially be. Agreed. So you're going to invest a lot more of your time in that. The other thing is, is Tua even as good as he used to be since the concussions.
Starting point is 01:21:46 And like, if I'm Stefansky, I'm like, can I get him back to kind of that, you know, two years ago in 2023 when he led to leaving yard? Wild is the tour guy? A lot of from New York, first things first, overtime. time. Kyler Murray and the Vikings. How optimistic is Greg Jennings with one of his favorite teams? Also one of Greg's alumni teams.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Don't really talk about it too much. Shout to Christian Ponder, though. Meanwhile, what is getting Max Crosby mean for Lamar? And finally, should the Eagles fans be a little bit worried as talent leaves the building? And not a ton of guys are coming. Coming in alongside Chris Bussarton, Kevin Wilde, Danny Parkins, Greg. Greg, are you at all concerned about the Eagles?
Starting point is 01:22:38 I'm not. I trust the process. Howie Roseman has seemingly gotten things right in the past. In Howie we trust? Yeah, okay. That's fine. A little boring, I guess so. I mean, it's based in history.
Starting point is 01:22:53 It has worked. You lost Johan Dotson. You guys worried about that? No, that would be pretty far down. How's the... Dusty was super stressed about John Dotson. I'm like, Dusts, I don't think you've ever talked about John Dotson. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:23:08 A little callback. How's the script donut sitting with you? You ate your script earlier. You know what? The script donuts are outside. I had to eat a donut with little pieces of the script that I wrote from Mike Evans. Yeah. And they were just sitting out there because I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:23:26 You ate them? I thought about eating it just privately. Just having more script. It's on my own. Yeah, so it wasn't much of it. The script didn't bother you at all. No, it was well written. Good job by you.
Starting point is 01:23:37 We're headed to Arizona slash Minnesota. Kyler is not allowed to talk to other teams until Wednesday, but we've seen some quarterbacks already find some landing spots. Gino's with the Jets. Tua is with the Falcons, Vikings. Nothing's going on. Or is there? Next team odds
Starting point is 01:24:01 Kyler is a heavy favorite to go to Minnesota Greg, how scary are the Vikings if Kyler lands in Minnesota? This would make them a playoff potential team for sure. Like with Kyla Murray in that building
Starting point is 01:24:18 with that talent that they already possessed and have on offense with that defense that we know is locked and loaded yeah, you have to respect the run. You have to respect him if he turns and he looks like he's handing it off and he has any sense to pull it and just scatter with. It just gives you a completely different question of how you approach this offense. Knowing you have Addison, Jets on the outside,
Starting point is 01:24:48 you already have that. If they get any semblance of a running game and get a running back in there that's going to run the ball and pose them as a threat. to run the ball. When Kyler helps your run game, like you're talking, just his presence historically has helped running back. It changes everything on how you approach this team offensive or defensively. But Kyler Merck, obviously, he's a step up,
Starting point is 01:25:14 a few steps up than JJ McCarthy and where he is. I just don't see JJ making the jump to even being where Kyler is at this current place and where he is in this career. I think they're incredibly scary. Like, I don't know. It's not time yet to make predictions and all of that in terms of worse to first and Super Bowls and championships. But it's just an unbelievable fit for Kyler. Sneaky, they are not the worst.
Starting point is 01:25:41 They were not the worst team. They won nine games. Detroit was in last place. Detroit ended up finishing in last place. Yeah, Detroit ended up finishing in last place. That is true. But in terms, that's an excellent point. But they are just, if you're Kyler Murray, I got to imagine he cannot believe how four.
Starting point is 01:25:58 He's fortunate he is. You leave Arizona. He talks about the failure that he felt there, even though he got the second contract and he'd been to the playoffs. But I felt like he let him down. Once. Right, no.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Just once. It's why I understand why. But he looks around and you mentioned the defense. They have a championship caliber defense. No doubt about it. Brian Flores cannot get a job head coaching in the NFL for reasons explainable and otherwise. that's what their defense has been over a three-year sample since he's been there.
Starting point is 01:26:33 So it is a Super Bowl caliber defense the moment Kyler Murray walks in. And we don't have to be like that old to remember what it looked like in Minnesota when they just got anything from the offense. The last two years we put their offensive numbers side by side. When they had the ninth best offense in football, they won 14 games. So is Kyler Murray the ninth best best? quarterback? No. But with Jefferson, with Addison, in a dome, with, you know, with that, with O'Connell calling the plays, who's gotten a lot out of Donald, who got a lot out of Kirk
Starting point is 01:27:10 Cousins. Like, there's a very, very high ceiling in Minnesota if Kyler goes there. I agree with you guys. And I'm like with Greg, they would definitely be in a very tough division, a playoff contender. I mean, who would be the odd team out if there's only one or maybe there be two? That's what I want to know. That would be, well, it might be Detroit if it goes well in Minnesota. Or it could be green, like, it could be any of them. I mean, honestly, if he clicks. It could be Chicago.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Right. No, if he clicks there, like all those teams are good. But the point is this, I'm interested. I love the fit for all that Minnesota has and Kyler now has all this talent around him. However, he's a playmaker. And O'Connell has one, you know, it's been, you know, paint by numbers, just be on schedule, do what I want done. And so you would think Kyler's been humbled enough to just let the system work for you rather than just wanting to make plays. And for O'Connell, does he incorporate enough room for Kyler to be himself and when it calls for it to make play?
Starting point is 01:28:25 So I think it's a great fit as far as the talent around him. I don't think like it's not like Darnold is a guy that was just going to do what he was, you know, the offense told him to do. Kyler likes to make plays on his own. So I think I'd be interested in seeing how they kind of find that happy medium because I think that's what you want to do to maximize Kyle's potential. Well, yeah, that falls on obviously your play caller who in this case happens to be your head coach and Kevin O'Connell. But a lot of this would fall on Kyla Murray. To accept that part.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Because early in his career, we saw him as an electric quarterback because of what he can do outside the pocket with his legs. And he didn't want any part of that. He's like, I want to be seen and viewed and known as a pocket passing guy. So you would, from those sentiments that he has shared and expressed, you would believe or think you would hope to believe that I'm going to go in there and I'm going to try to just run the system and incorporate who I am
Starting point is 01:29:27 because Kevin O'Connell isn't going to say I don't want you to be Kyla Murray. No, that's what makes you special. Like, he would prefer, he wanted Kirk Cousins to use his legs more. Like, even Sam Donald, but that's just not what they leaned into. Naturally, Kylo Murray would lean into that.
Starting point is 01:29:45 And so you benefit. The team gets better. The team has success when you are Kyler Murray And what separates you from everyone else is what you can do and provide with your legs. This is also one of those stories that's just like why the NFL's the best. They missed the playoffs last year. They had traded up for J.J. McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:30:05 That was polarizing. They move on from Sam Darnold. That was crushed. And they could fall into a former number one overall pick who's one of the most talented athletes to come into the league with questions about work ethic, with questions about fit and playing on schedule. with questions about size. So like that, but that only adds to the entry. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:30:26 but it's like, it might bust. There are definitely, there's a con negative case. But we would all be locked in. Yeah, but it's also, it's like,
Starting point is 01:30:34 oh, one of the craziest athletes in the league with one of the strongest arms gets to go. Justin Jefferson was talking to you guys a month ago being like, oh, of course I'm still the best receiver in football. I've just had, I've just had quarterback issues. He wouldn't have a talent issue or an arm issue with this quarterback.
Starting point is 01:30:51 They would probably. trade J.J. McCarthy. That's what I wanted. Like, what's the market for J.J. Or is there a chance they, like, Jordan love him where it's like, Kyler's in now. You need more. Yeah, I don't know if you have to. I mean, you guys, I don't know if you have to trade him. You just sit him and hope he learned something. I don't be trading at a very low value. You sound very low. But I don't know that Kyler signed. I don't think Kyler signs up for a
Starting point is 01:31:15 competition. No, no, no, no. Kyle's starting. And even if he did, I, he would win it. Yeah, no, I agree. And so. But as far as JJ goes, like, yes, he's never been in a situation where he can truly sit and learn. Because even the year that Sam Darnold had the breakout year a couple of years, or last year, two years ago. Now two years ago. He was hurt. So he couldn't get on the field. He couldn't take the reps and mimic what he was seeing.
Starting point is 01:31:47 He had to be a student of the game. I don't know if he really approached that the right way. And this would be one of those moments where if Kyler were to come in, you're on the roster. If he wins the job, which I believe we all agree, he would win the job. Even if they said it was a competition, he wins a job. If you don't take this opportunity to study and learn and improve both as a mental approach and physically when you get the practice reps, then it's really telling if that's the case. But he's not going to beat out Kyla Murray if the Vikings going. Any pressure on Kevin O'Connell?
Starting point is 01:32:29 Yes. Really? Yes. I know he's. I don't know, man. Different quarterback every year. I understand that. Guys who've had career years with him.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Once you start, when you get rid of your general manager. And it's like, yes, and they spend the money the way they did, they were shooting for a team. that was going to be a contender. They didn't make the right call as it pertains to the quarterback position. Now we bring in Kyla Murray and we feel like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:33:01 he has a talent. We have to see the productivity out of that. The next piece that's going to be removed is definitely going to be your head coach. Somebody else might jump and grab him right away. I think 10 teams would hire
Starting point is 01:33:20 Kevin O'Connell. tomorrow. Stapansky. Yeah. Kind of like Stefansky. I definitely believe he would be
Starting point is 01:33:25 a hot market for Captain O'Connell, but he's the next thing that gets unplugged. Yeah. We saw a little Sean McDermott.
Starting point is 01:33:33 It's like, Sean McDermott's started like, DC's gone and switch the O.C., like, buddy, your next line. Sure.
Starting point is 01:33:41 And Brandon Bean's like, well, no, looking around. Kyle Ler is a great backup plan, though. Like, you thought you were stuck with JJ McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Yeah. Now you get Kylie Murray. Top 10 Tuesday. We did top 10 winners earlier in the show. Now it's time for top 10 duds of free agencies. People teams concepts. That's right.
Starting point is 01:34:02 What? Yeah. People's team. We're not allowed to say losers. People teams and concepts. I've heard on this show it's a rich tapestry. Yeah, that's for sure. So coming in at number 10, this one's pretty self-explanatory.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Baker Mayfield, even if I supported not giving Mike Evans that contract and reallocating resources from offense to defense. Baker is still thrown 27 touchdowns to Mike Evans since he's been a buck. The next most is nine. So I like a Bucca a lot, but this is going to be a significant adjustment for Baker, for Bucks fans, for the city of Tampa, like he's been an institution there. So Baker Mayfield, a dud
Starting point is 01:34:42 of this free agent class. Coming to number nine, Vic Fangio. Maybe the best defensive coordinator in football still has a ton of talent. Jalen Carter, Davis, Campbell, Bonn, Cooper de Gene. But when you lose Blankenship your captain, you lose Nicobe Dean, you lose Jalen Phillips,
Starting point is 01:35:00 and last year you lose Milton Williams. At some point, the damn breaks on how much talent you've lost on that side of the ball. Still have a lot of talent there, but you are going to be asked to do more with less, and as Greg said earlier, in Howie Rosen, we trust. Coming in number eight, Michael Panix,
Starting point is 01:35:16 Jr., even though I think he would win a competition with Tua. It's a new coach. It's a new GM. It's a new president of football operations. So none of the infrastructure that drafted you with a first round pick is there. They clearly either had questions about your talent or your ability to stay healthy that they rushed to sign Tua and bring them in. Tua's going to get all the offseason reps as you recovered.
Starting point is 01:35:42 And you've played in 12 games and in six of them you've completed less than 60% of your passes. So it's not like you've shown a ton. that you're going to be the guy. He all of a sudden in year three finds himself smack dab in the middle of a good old-fashioned quarterback competition. Coming in at number seven, my friend and our leader, Kevin Wilds. What did I know? He got Romeo Dobbs.
Starting point is 01:36:01 You got Romeo Dobbs. That's why you're six-four. I heard he was six-four. You lose Bradbury. You lose Tonga. You lose Stefan Diggs. But that's all on the peripheral. You know who hasn't signed?
Starting point is 01:36:15 Trey Hendrickson, which means Trey Hedrickson. Which means Trey Hendrickson is still a story, which means it's still a topic, which means we still get to debate Trey Hendrickson on the show call every day, which is Wild's least favorite part of the day. We've done a tremendous amount of stories on Trey Hendrickson, and he is still on the Bengals or maybe not, but he still, I don't know. Limbo right. He's still out there.
Starting point is 01:36:39 He could be a patriot. He's still out there. We've been doing it for two years now. So it's still a conversational topic, which drives Wild's crazy. I would love to have Trey Hendrickson on the show. It'd be like seeing a huge celebrity. Yeah, let's get let's get them on. Coming to number six, similar logic to number nine.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Steve Spagnolo, I know the argument out of Kansas City is, well, we just develop corners. That is not easy to do. They have lost a tremendous amount of secondary talent, this free agency. Lots of the Rams. One of the best organizations and footballs, like, oh, you want to give us Trent McDuffie? We'll make him the highest paid corner in football history of the returning players on the Chief's depth chart right now in their secondary.
Starting point is 01:37:27 They have nine total starts. There's not a lot of experience there in Kansas City. So Steve Spagnolo is going to be asked to do a lot with a little. Coming in at number five, Aaron Rogers, apparently he's got no new contract. I listen to him on McAfee and he's like, there's no contract in front of me. I got nothing to sign with. They go out and get Michael Pittman Jr. I don't love Pittman as a player.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Don't love him as a fit next to D.K. Metcalf. I don't think Minnesota's about to call for Aaron Rogers. So it's either retirement or Pittsburgh, but apparently they're not calling, and I don't think there's enough reinforcements coming for them. They're spending a ton of money at the receiver room, but not getting a lot of production. Number four, Jerry Jones. Where's the splash, Jerry? Jalen Thompson for $33 million as a safety?
Starting point is 01:38:14 Nice player, but you said you were going. to break the budget. This is the biggest contract he's given out since Brandon Carr back in 2012. They missed out on Max Crosby. They haven't spent at the top of the market. Ray Hendrickson's calling. Flash back to number seven.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Trey Hendrickson. Maybe he goes with it. I got to be honest. I'm going to put Wilds on the list at number seven. This one pains me a little bit. I'm coming in at number three. Put it myself on the list. Listen, the Bears free agency's been fine.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Kobe Bryant, nice player, but it means they're going to lose Byard. It means they're going to lose Brisker. I got serious questions about the Bears. And I'm trying to make this whole national TV thing work. And I'm not saying I need the Bears, but they've won the offseason in the last few years. The Bryce Young trade, the Caleb Williams selection, the Ben Johnson hire. They've been the off season champs three years in a row.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Yeah, now it's just like maybe Ben Johnson takes his shirt off at a Black Hawk's game. Right. Like if this is going to be a, it was a Bulls game. If this is going to be a quiet, I'm locked in on that beat. If this is going to be a quiet bears off season, I don't love that for me personally. I have to be honest. Coming into number two, LeBron James. Nick's real biased.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Okay, I don't like Nick's bias with why he's put on Michael Jordan on the list. LeBron, real done of this free age class, he's a Browns fan. Big yikes for the Browns. Titus Howard at 45 million. Zion Johnson at 49 million? Zion Johnson, former Charger? That offensive line wasn't good. $49 million.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I don't like that at all. And his other team is the Cowboys. Jerry Jones is already on the dud list. Tough, uh, tough free agency period. No, no, the dud list is. Oh, the dulles is coming up. These are the top 10 duds. It is a list.
Starting point is 01:40:00 It's a list of duds. Yeah. It's tricky. It's complicated. And coming in at number one, Lamar Jackson. Okay. Time's yours, Lamar. You have a new head coach.
Starting point is 01:40:15 You have a new pass rusher. You're number one on number one Raven fan, Chris Broussard's S-Bob list. And you're supposed to perform at an MVP level. You're coming off the year where you just got sacked more than you've ever been sacked before in terms of sack percentage. And you just lost a three-year consecutive pro bowler at center and Isaiah likely. I don't, yes, Max Krosby makes you better. I like to hire at coach. But for you specifically, pressure's on.
Starting point is 01:40:44 tough free agency period for Lamar Jackson. Brew, I assume, perfects, not Douglass? Not bad. Not bad. And wilds are like this. The one guy I would add, Trey Hendrickson. I mean, seriously, though. Trey Hendrickson is a obviously very good player.
Starting point is 01:41:09 I wonder, does, you know, you just hear the reports he's asking for some astronomical amount of money. We just saw Jalen Phillips get 30 million a year. We just saw DeNeil Hunter get 40 million a year. Does Trey, just throwing it out there, does he have an inflated idea of his value? Teams obviously didn't count on him. Now, the Cowboys are still there. I mean, they've even done a few things,
Starting point is 01:41:37 but I just wonder what is going to happen. And is he going to get hurt in a situation where a lot of the money is spent and some of the teams that needed that position or wanted that position have already gotten somebody, whether it was for more or for lesser. Like, I just wonder what in the world is going on. This feels like what has happened with him in Cincinnati is now happening with him in the whole league.
Starting point is 01:42:05 So I hope he gets his money. I didn't like the way they did him in Cincinnati. But this is odd. I think he's going to go to Tampa. But yeah, he probably will be one of those guys. that for a bunch of, that it's just like perennially disappointed with the long-term contract and the long-term guarantees. Probably have to sign a shorter deal than he would like. Look, I think the dud list or the top ten duds is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Spags, I would actually move up. Really? I would move because of what they lost. Like, a large part of what makes his defenses work, and again, he's been brilliant. But when he can dial up that blitz and you still have a Jalen Watson, a Trent McDuffie that can man up and Brian Cook's in the back end that has been solid for you back there, you trust the communication isn't going to break down. We will have exactly what we need to cover us. You don't have that anymore. And I know you had a signing for safety and you got a detackle, but where's your second?
Starting point is 01:43:14 Where is your corners that are going to be the Trent McDuffie that are going to even be the Jalen Watson? Like this defense is going to look drastically different when you are asking your corners to blitz the way that McDuffie can come off the corner and edge and wreak havoc and then cover the way that they do at the same time. That is not easy to replace. And so it'll be interesting to see how they recover. they recover from those losses because I mean it's your entire secondary. Yeah. Quite literally literally yeah their entire secondary. He's he's amazing. He's maybe the best defensive coordinator of football but a lot of question marks. Excellent top 10 dud the list. Thank you. I'm bad. It was excellent. All right
Starting point is 01:44:01 coming up next on first things first overtime Willie Cologne joins the show talking about how dangerous the Steelers can be and is Aaron Rogers going to be under center that's next. It's home with another two two. It's found into the glove for strike three. He starts this game with a strikeout. He gets Kirk. Back to back K's eight pitch to Gonzalez. The three to Rosarena and he strikes him out on the outside corner as advertised. So that's four innings from Paul Skeens. Just a clean seven strikeouts Willie. No big deal. I don't know if you ever have seen the Twitter account pitching ninja where they like do like the overlay of the pitches and show where the ball ends up.
Starting point is 01:44:53 His with his four seam fastball, change up and sinker where it all comes from the exact same release point. But like one ends up down here, one ends up here and one ends up to and they're going 97, 99, 92. Like he's the best pitcher in the world. He's ridiculous. Like they called it, he was as advertised. I think for anybody that watched that game after the third end, things got like, he's got. a little shaky for USA. And I was worried.
Starting point is 01:45:19 I mean, even Mexico, you had the manager, I forgot his name escapes me. It was like, we see them again, we got him. So if USA. Talk talking a loss. Yeah, you came out of this game, but it wasn't shaky one, nevertheless. Yeah, he is a bad, bad man.
Starting point is 01:45:30 But because of the pitch count, I think can't, just ride him the whole way. And the pirates would be pretty upset about that as well. But check out the game tonight against Italy on FS1. Let's go to Pittsburgh. All right, so the Steelers got Michael Pittman Jr. From the Colts, late round pick swap. Not a huge commitment there.
Starting point is 01:45:45 But then they gave him a three-year, $59 million deal. Pittman last year had 784 yards with seven touchdowns. Of course, there's always the tie-in to if this is something that Aaron Rogers would want, how it's going to impact his potential return. It's Willie's team, but Greg's position, Greg, we'll start with you. I'm thinking you maybe have some strong Michael Pittman feelings here. How dangerous do you perceive Pittman to be with Rogers and the Steelers?
Starting point is 01:46:11 I don't think they're dangerous at all. Okay. I don't like the combo of Michael Pittman Jr. and D.K. McKaff. When you look at if Aaron Rogers is your quarterback and knowing he has to get the ball out of his hands right away, Michael Pittman Jr. is not a yak guy, meaning get the ball in his hands quick and then he makes something happen. D.K. can do it because he plays bully ball. He can beat you up at the line. He's not. Neither one of them are great releasing off the line of scrimmage. Yes, he's a possession guy, more of a deep threat 50-50 guy.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Obviously, DKs a lot faster. He provides you the same thing. I just, I'm accustomed and Willie, you can speak a little bit more to this. From a receiver standpoint, the Pittsburgh Steelers, I've always viewed them as one of those teams that evaluates the receiver position very well. They've always found a way to find a diamond in the roof. And not necessarily even a diamond in the rough. Like Santoneo Holmes years back.
Starting point is 01:47:23 And then Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, like those types of receivers that can do everything, that has the speed, that can run the complete route tree, that if you ask them to catch and go with the ball, they can do all of those things. I just don't see that with the acquisition of Michael Puff. Pittman, like, he provides you something, but it's, I don't see the value and how it can directly impact and add to the problems that they had last year.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Well, it was a calculated move, right? It was a late round swap. He's 28 years old. Yeah, you know, his best year is made behind him. I think two years ago he was that guy. I don't think he's that guy, but he's a legit number two in which you need in a stiller offense. And I also think if you're Aaron Rogers right now, you just needed adults you can rely on, right?
Starting point is 01:48:11 You need a DK. you have a solid number two in him. You needed somebody on Sunday you can rely on and show up. He is a possession receiver. I get that. But I think if you're the Steelers right now, you realize even with Aaron Rogers in the offense and Valley, he elevated the offense,
Starting point is 01:48:26 it wasn't enough, right? You need pieces to win with. And they still have a lot of room to make work. So going to the draft, you can draft. There's still some key pieces out on free agency you can win with. I think it was just a peg that they felt like they needed to add to this office and I don't say bring in Aaron Raj, but I think they could build upon. I mean, his age enough is a win for them. So they clearly needed something.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Yeah. Right. They needed another pass catcher, and this is another pass catcher who is an NFL caliber player. I tend to agree with Greg in terms of the fit, but also, and this is maybe just because I could not play offensive line in the NFL. I could not get, I also try, I think more about the sport through like the general manager lens. And they're not. not getting great return on investment for what they're spending. Yeah. And I understand the cap is going up and I understand supply and demand. There were not a lot of receivers here.
Starting point is 01:49:20 But in terms of spending on wide receivers, which one of these teams doesn't belong? Because those are the top three spenders against the cap this upcoming year at wide receiver. And if we were going to do a conversation of like, what's the best wide receiver duo in the NFL? The middle team, the Steelers would not be in that. Right. But Jamar Chase and T. Higgins is in the conversation and maybe the answer. Yeah. C.D.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Lamb and George Pickens would be in the conversation and maybe the answer. Steelers wide receivers last year, 29th in yards, 31st and catches, 30th in targets. Now I understand that's last year's production and now I'm talking about next year's spending and Pittman wasn't there for last year. But it's just I don't see a world where DK and Pittman produce anywhere near the level at which they are spending and paying them to produce. Well, say, I disagree. It's a win.
Starting point is 01:50:09 You're paying Pittman, what, 24 million? I mean, that's a win in their eyes, and they're going to extend them, right? So for me, he's a serviceable receiver. Is he as dynamic as George Pickens and C.D. Lamb? No. Or Jamar Chase and T. Higgas? No. But what they have right now, he's serviceable and he can still win.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Like I said, once again, he's 28 years old. He's not a 32-year-old receiver where acts to be a legit number two. In this offense, they still have to figure out, since they let go, John Smith, can they get another possession receiver. That could be big for them. In the run game-wide, they just acquire Rico Dotto. That's big. have Rico and Jalen Warren.
Starting point is 01:50:43 They possibly can get another left tackle. So for them, it may not make sense to the outside world, but for what they have and what they can spend with, this is a perfect move for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So I like the move. I don't, I don't, everybody else may hate it, but I like it. All right. Let's go to Philadelphia here where they are just doing the subtraction thing, honestly.
Starting point is 01:51:02 And that is, again, it all comes back to money this time of year with the free agents to negotiate. It's a motivation for a lot of things. So they have said goodbye to Jalen Phillips. He got a cool $120 million from Carolina. Reed Blankenship, their defensive captain. Nicobi Dean, big locker room presence, a huge snap percentage as a linebacker. And then, of course, Jahan Dotson on day one.
Starting point is 01:51:24 So that's a lot of departures, Willie, with not a lot of additions thus far. Should Eagles fans be concerned? Well, I would tell Philly fans to do something that they're used to hearing. That's trusted process, right? This is what they do in Philly. Trust the process. You got to understand. Jaila Phillips' contract, I think it was too much for them stomach that let him walk.
Starting point is 01:51:40 You talk about Nicole B. Dean. He was injury prone. They let him go. They was also prepared because they had Jahe Campbell out of Alabama to kind of fill him right away. You also got to talk about losing Johanna Johnson. I may be chopping up his name. I apologize. John Donson.
Starting point is 01:51:54 He seemed like he can never find his footing within the offense. They let him go. And Reed Blanketship for me is the one that hurts the most solely because I thought he was the glue to that secondary. It allowed a Cooper to be Cooper and the young man with McKell, the Quinnion, Quina and Mitchell to be him. Nevertheless, man, they have nine draft picks, right? And Howie Roseman, this is his time of year. He doesn't lose his time of year.
Starting point is 01:52:18 So I felt like, you know, with everything that they've lost, they were prepared for the loss and they'll be ready to go in free agency in the draft. Yeah, I'm with Willie on this one. Look, trust the process. Howie Roseman, he deserves, and he's earned the opportunity for fans and even us who aren't Philly fans to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 01:52:39 because he has consistently built a competitive roster year in and year out. Yeah, more than competitive. Yeah, like a Super Bowl contending roster. What I would say, like, in terms of re-blankenship, like, I feel you on that one because he, I mean, over 90% of their snaps, he was always on the field. There was only two other players that played more defensive snaps than Blank, which was Zach Bond and Cooper DeSse. Gene. The others,
Starting point is 01:53:11 you mentioned Jordan Phillips. He didn't, had he produced, and I know pressures are important, but pressures and sacks, when you talk about the group of guys that he's mixed in with in terms of pressure rate and pressure percentage, with Will Anderson,
Starting point is 01:53:29 Nick Benito, and Micah Parsons, and then there's obviously Jay and Phillips. They get the pressures and they get the sacks. And so had he done, done that, I believe that they would have shown interest in, you know what, maybe we can live with this. But with them having such a deep defensive line, specifically in that interior, and we can go find
Starting point is 01:53:52 somebody that can rush the passer. So this is one of my specialties. Two things can be true. Like you guys are, I mean, Harry Roseman's maybe the number one pick, right? Les Sneed, Brett Fee, Chowie Roseman. He's on the short list for best general manager in football. and Eagles fans should trust the process and I will even take it a step further
Starting point is 01:54:11 of like you can't even make any sort of allegation of they don't spend. Yeah. They paid Zach Bonn. You know, obviously they've paid Sequin. They've paid H.A. Brown. They've paid Layton Johnson. They've paid Jaylon Hertz.
Starting point is 01:54:23 They spend. They spend. They spend cash. They spend to their cap limit. All that. They spend. So at some point you have to make choices. Last year they chose not to pay Milton Williams, price of doing business. This year you choose not to pay Jalen Phillips.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Price to do in business. I'll concede all of that. But, At some point, there is a straw that breaks the camel's back of just like, that's a lot of talent to leave. It's like, the draft is, yes, it is his specialty and yes, Howie Roseman hits on it more often than not. But he also has misses. But he could have taken Justin Jefferson. He did it, right?
Starting point is 01:54:59 A lot of people that could have took Justin Jackson. No, I know, but he took it was Naylor, right? Yeah. He took a receiver and then, and so, like, everyone has misses. So all of a sudden, if you're like, well, how he's just going to restock the cupboard, sometimes you don't. And so if it's a couple of offseason of departures and then you have one of those off seasons of bad luck, regression to the mean, whatever the case may be, like, it's just a lot of talent to leave in a short period of time.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Yeah, but I think the biggest issue for him right now is how can I get this O'Larner up and running, right? Like, he has to go. That is a big issue. He has to go into this draft and draft some big uglies that can really help jell and hurts out. And maybe on top of that, he's also going to have to figure out, man, what's the deal with A.J. Brown? He's got a lot of issues. That's a lot of legit concern. So, listen, I like Howard Roseman.
Starting point is 01:55:46 He doesn't miss. And I think everybody that we just mentioned is, it is what it is. I've been looking forward to talking to Willie Cologne about Gino Smith coming back to the Jets all day. All day. His man covers the Jets. And I don't know how he was going to put lipstick on this. But I cannot wait to find out. The World Baseball Classic continues as Team USA takes on Italy.
Starting point is 01:56:09 It's the final game of group stage tonight, 9 o'clock Eastern. We can't wait right here on FS1. All right, let's head down the street. Gino Smith is a jet. Gino and the Jets. Again. Let's run it back because it worked so great the first time. Let's see the trade details here.
Starting point is 01:56:30 The Raiders trade Gino and a seventh to the Jets. for a sixth, so not exactly the largest compensation that we've ever seen, but, you know, he is ready to go. Diana Rossini, friend of the show, already in Jersey, already at the Jets facility, taking his physical, so this trade is official. Willie, you were a Jets, you cover the Jets. I was actually his rookie year. Okay, so you played with Gino Smith.
Starting point is 01:56:58 How you feeling, buddy? How should Jets fans feel? Listen, Jets fans shouldn't hate the move. You might hate the memories, right? You might hate the memories, but you shouldn't hate the move. The Jets needed a competent quarterback. They needed competent quarterback play. I covered his team.
Starting point is 01:57:14 I've watched his team. Like, Jets fans get to turn it off. I can't turn it off, right? It's a part of my job. So I have to watch all four quarters for the last umpteen years of bad quarterback play and all the drama that comes into it. I'm sorry. So thank you.
Starting point is 01:57:26 But I would say this is Gino's grown up. He's a competent quarterback. He lands in Vegas. We all know how deficient the Raiders were. A lot of what he went through in Las Vegas isn't his fault. But if you're the Jets right now, it's hard to evaluate the talent around you when you're not great at one position and that being a quarterback position. When Justin Fields and everybody behind them has failed,
Starting point is 01:57:52 it's hard to see what you have in the receiver room. It's hard to see what you have at the runnerback position or the tight-end position. Now you have a quarterback, a quarterback, excuse me, who can stabilize the offense and you have an O.C. with a very good resume and Frank Wright. And you have a head coach and Aaron Glenn who could simply focus on the defense and we can figure out what his superpower is.
Starting point is 01:58:10 So I think it's a great move for the Jets. I think Jets fans are like, oh, I don't want to hear about my quarterback, you know, getting punched in a face part two type thing, you know. Gino's an adult. He's a solid quarterback. He would be great this year. I think he's a great this year.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Well, I mean, as far as being a bridge quarterback. Is he going to be Stafford? No. Excuse me, America. But I think he's exactly what the Jets. needed. The Jets got better. It's simply I'm with Willie on this one. Is that not damning with faint praise? Is that not clearing the lowest possible bar?
Starting point is 01:58:43 It may be. So prior to Sam Darnold doing what he just did and having the run that he had specifically this year because no one was ready to say, yeah, Sam Darnold is the face of the resurrection projects at quarterback. Yeah. Prior to with what he just solely did in year one. with the Minnesota Vikings. Gino Smith was that guy.
Starting point is 01:59:06 In Seattle. In Seattle. You're right. He was the guy. He was that guy that we were comparing the Sam Darnold's to. Well, he can be Gino Smith. He can be Baker Mayfield. The three years before last year, 2022 through 2024,
Starting point is 01:59:21 I wrote fourth in yards, eighth in touchdowns, third in completion percentage. So he's better than what he was last year for the ratings. No doubt. And to Willie's point, like a large part of what we saw and experienced out of Gene's, know, I'm not, I'm not, nobody is. I'm not removing him from blame. But it was bad. When you have, when you have guys in your face, mechanics kind of go out the window.
Starting point is 01:59:43 You start doing things that are uncharacteristic. But in terms of him coming back full circle and he said that in his tweet, it's cool to see a guy who understands, man, I had an opportunity coming out of college, being drafted by this organization, having high expectations of myself, them having high expectations of. me and it didn't work out. And now I'm a completely different individual. I'm much more mature, have the experience. I'm a better player, better individual. Now I get to come back to the organization that allowed me this opportunity to play in this league and drafted me initially to get them jump started in the right direction.
Starting point is 02:00:22 We know he's not the long-term answer. We know that. But to get them headed in the right direction, this is nostalgia. And lastly, listen. No, no, I'm interested. Go ahead. Well, he's also making a little above vet minimum, right? From the Jets.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Right. So he's not breaking the bank. He's not hurting the Jets. On top of that, being on that team in 2013, I'm going to tell you, one, we were the second youngest team in the league. And two, the Jets didn't have anything around Gino Smith to help Gino Smith outside the offensive line. And we had a solid running back.
Starting point is 02:00:55 But receiver-wise, we didn't have anything. So, Gino. You think this is a good situation, though, to walk into? I think, yes, it's not great. But for where he is in his career, and out of, if you had looked through the free agent class of quarterbacks for the Jets, this is the best pickup. Because you're getting Kyle Murray off of foot injury. You're not going to take on what Kirk Cousins has brewing. You're talking about Tua.
Starting point is 02:01:19 He's a concussion away from being out of this league. Like right now, if you're in New York Jets, you landed a quarterback who's competent, stable, and who wants to be back in New York. So my theory is Gino just wanted to go anywhere where he would play. and he's even willing to go back to New York. Because I don't think that Gino had this offer in Pittsburgh. I don't think he had this offer in Minnesota. I don't think he had this offer in Arizona. I think he had this offer in New York.
Starting point is 02:01:46 And he's like, I've only, I'm 35 years old, but I've only started 98 games in my career. There was a five-year stretch where I played in seven games. So I think he would have taken this, and it ended up being a trade. But, like, he would have done anything to be a starter. And that's okay. But I would just, like, go into it with reasonable expectations.
Starting point is 02:02:10 But I don't think anybody is it. Because I don't think you're going to get Seattle version of Gino Smith. I think the Jets can't do that. Fourth and yards and third and completion percentage, eighth in touchdowns. Well, they don't happen. That is not happening. You're talking about the Jets having a top 10 office line. Gray just pointed out, we couldn't see Seattle, Gino Smith,
Starting point is 02:02:28 because we got the Oakland Raiders. Right? The Oakland Raiders, the Las Vegas Raiders were 31st in the offensive line. They couldn't pass protect. They couldn't run black. They were deficient in any error you want to put your finger on. So, of course, we didn't get Seattle, Gino Smith. Now you're getting Gino with a chip on the shoulder with a really good young
Starting point is 02:02:46 offensive line, a running back in a receiver and core. Now you have an office with a really good OC. So, yeah, I expect Gino to be better and maybe a resurgence of a Seattle Seahawks, Gino Smith. Look, I like it for the Jets. I like it for Gino. and I disagree in terms of he didn't have the opportunity because it was a trade. Like, I do believe that if Pittsburgh wasn't so stuck in the Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 02:03:12 world of we want Rogers, we want Rogers, they would show interest. I believe that they would show interest in Gino. The Vikings, obviously, Kyla Murray is available and he will be available. So that is what it is, Arizona. But I do believe there was a market out there for Gino Smith. The Las Vegas Raiders just happened to not have to release him and got something for him prior to doing that. I mean, a sixth round pick. They got something for him.
Starting point is 02:03:42 Listen, again, it's, it is, I root for Gino too. I thought the- It don't sound like you. Hold on. I thought the Seattle resurgence was amazing. I mean, it was not a pleasant experience for Gino in New York. Who are you telling? That's what I was saying. I was on that boat.
Starting point is 02:03:59 That's what I'm saying. So I have a hard time believing he's like, yeah, I really want to go back to all that toxicity. But it's a different. It's just this was the opportunity that he had to play NFL. 13 years removed. Yeah. Exactly. Different organization, different pieces, totally different locker room.
Starting point is 02:04:14 It's the Jets, man. That part is the same. It's the Jets. That part is the same. Sorry, Williams. It's the Jets. That part, you have a point. All right, tonight, the USA takes on Italy.
Starting point is 02:04:27 It's the final game of group stage. Of course, you can catch it at 9 o'clock right here on FS1. So the U.S. defeated Mexico last night. It was a good game. It was competitive. Mexico had the tying run on late. So they're 3-0. Team USA is to start the WBC.
Starting point is 02:04:43 They've been dominating so far as you can see. 29 runs scored pretty good in three games. You know, it's a bit above average in baseball. So, you know, again, a heavy favorite. You don't see the five-and-a-half. spread run line very often, Willie, but are you expecting Team USA to dominate Italy tonight? They got to be careful. Italy could turn this into a street fight.
Starting point is 02:05:07 So they have to be careful. Listen, judge's been great. Riley's been great. They got the young stud. Nolan McLean from the Mets, he's going to be on the mound for them. But Italy could be sneaky dangerous. Listen, Mexico almost walked them down last night. Yep.
Starting point is 02:05:21 Jaron had two bombs in that game and they just didn't have enough on the mound. USA was able to recover. But it could be a good one. So I always, when I'm going to talk about baseball, it's like, can an upset happen? It's like, yeah, it's baseball. Baseball is such a weird game that one guy gets hot, one guy makes a mistake, you drop one ball, like anything can happen. But this team is, their lineup is over, it's overwhelming the offensive power. Watch it tonight on FS1.
Starting point is 02:05:47 We're back tomorrow.

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