Football Daily - 72+ EFL Pod: Wilder talks & best EFL beards

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Aaron Paul, Jobi McAnuff & Lyle Taylor talk EFL as Sheff Utd re-appoint Chris Wilder. Hear from the man himself, and did Ruben Selles deserve to go so soon? Also on the agenda, the EFL’s best beards, THAT John Mousinho / Will Still handshake and will Lee Trundle make it into the 72+ Ultimate All-Time EFL XI? Remember to send your suggestions and messages to us on WhatsApp to 08000 289 369.01:00 Lyle Taylor the hat-trick hero! 03:30 Lyle explains his tiny shinpads 05:00 The EFL’s best beards 08:30 John Mousinho Will Still handshake steals the show 11:30 Jobi gets done like a kipper in the group chat 13:30 Chris Wilder returns to Sheffield United 21:20 Hear best bits from Chris Wilder’s presser 25:25 Will Lee Trundle make our Ultimate EFL XI? 30:25 Will Lyle’s hat-trick make 72PLUS 72MINUS? 35:50 Which manager would you not cross? 38:35 Imagining Jose Mourinho in the EFLBBC Sounds / 5 Live commentaries: Wed 17 Sep 2000 Bayern Munich v Chelsea, Thu 18 Sep 2000 Newcastle v Barcelona, Thu 18 Sep 2000 Man City v Napoli on Sports Extra, Sat 20 Sep 1500 Brighton v Tottenham, Sat 20 Sep 1500 Wolves v Leeds on Sports Extra, Sat 20 Sep 1730 Man Utd v Chelsea, Sun 21 Sep 1400 Sunderland v Aston Villa, Sun 21 Sep 1400 Bournemouth v Newcastle on Sports Extra, Sun 21 Sep 1630 Arsenal v Man City.

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Vision to Value on Resilient Edge is available now, wherever you listen to podcasts. Aaron Paul and Joby McEnough. Welcome to 72 plus, the EFL podcast from the Football Daily. With me, Aaron Paul. Great to be alongside you this week. Also with us, my right arm, it is Joby McEnough. Joelle, how are your pal, recovered from a wet South Coast Derby? Yeah, it was a bit of a long one, wasn't it?

Getting down there, and then the weather, to be fair, was okay for the game, and then it just seemed to open up. It was nice to see you down there, mate, and we, shared our disappointment of the Derby on the way home, didn't we? It wasn't certainly won for the record books, really disappointed with everything about it, really. You know, they haven't played for 13 years in the league. You know, a big rivalry down there,

and it just never, ever got going. So, yeah, I was a little bit gutted with it. Also alongside us, the former championship, now Chelmsford City striker, Lyle Taylor, in the building with us. Hattrick Hero, scored three in the FA Cup, second qualifying round, Hartford, you made it look easy.

Yeah, look, my first start, having come back from this injury, so it was good, and it's nice to know the tools are still tooling, as it were. And it's always nice to score goals. But, yeah, I had a really good week last week, so it's for me to carry that on and for the team to carry on in the upward trajectory that we desire. I think they call this man a cheat code, no. Well, it should be against Hartford Town with the greatest respect. I mean, this guy is a top, top goal scorer.

So, listen, let's be honest, some quality. Lyle Taylor, proper finishes. But, come on, man, it's Lyle Taylor. He should be doing this against Hartford Town. What does Spag Bowl mean, Lyle? I don't know. I think the boys are really, really rude about my hair, to be honest. There's many people who have been really rude about my hair.

No. Is it to the hair? Do you know what? Even the manager. The manager called me Tapping Taylor in the dressing room afterwards. And I'm thinking, the second goal was a great finish. It was, like, to move my body, it was a great ball in. And I just...

Was that your favourite one, Lahr, of the three? No, the third one, the first one. The pass and then the opening of the legs, the stride. Yeah, for anyone who hasn't seen it, the ball sort of dropped midway in the attacking half to Lyle. He's just absolutely zinger-burgered one out to the left wing. And then what I haven't seen for a little while, A little change of pace, Lyle, still got the old speed, gets himself into the middle of the goal

where all good strikers need to get. Delivery was on point, to be fair, to your winger. It was. And all you need to do is just extend and get there. So, yeah, lovely stuff, lovely stuff. I asked what Spag Bowl means. It's because you uploaded a goal on social media. We saw a lovely comment from Kai Corbett, formerly of FTI Barcelona, who said,

We love Lyle. That's very sweet. But then Bradley Ionvian of Shrewsbury, formerly of Colchester, your former colleague, he's the one who said Spag Bowl. I mean, it was, yeah, it was rogue. It was random. Yeah, that's Brad. That is very much Bradley Ionvian. He's a great kid, to be fair, with an incredible amount of talent. And I think if he can harbour that, he'll find himself very, very high up the pyramid in this country. In my notes of this week, I've got a very, very interesting picture. of your legs I mean I'm told I need to talk about your sim card-esque

shin pads but you've got hairy legs man well hairy legs Joe Joby have you seen it let me send it over to you I'm currently looking I'm currently look at the picture now I haven't got this picture have you not no no well I'll take up on the oh wow look at that okay yeah that is serious I need to see this hold out there you go look at your legs take them down it's about a level four grade on your legs at the moment I think you to get down to at least a grade toward your legs

I can't believe he zoomed it you know what if you zoomed in on the moon you'd see footprints with that amount of zoom I'm incredible and are you wearing shin pads sorry as yes I do wear shin pads

do you know the problem I have Jobby right the problem I have is the socks are too tight so I started cutting holes in the socks the problem is when you cut holes in the socks they start fraying and they start pulling

and then it just looks terrible so I stopped cutting the holes in my socks and started wearing my socks lower a la Jack Greelish because you realise that if you pull them over your calves you actually start getting cramped towards the end of the game Are you actually saying you've got cast as good as Jack Greenish

Mate if we could see his carves Then you know we'd be able to sort of judge that But they're covered with forest I don't understand the problem with a man having hairy legs They're really hairy legs I'm not I'm not judging at all I don't have a hairy chest or anything Do not know

I can't even have a connected beard Yeah I get like to I have the mood I have the moustache and then I have the gap and then I have the fluff on the chin. But I mean, 35 years old and I still haven't had to shape. We can all be handsome like Joelle. He's a handsome man. No, the gap in the beard just brought back memories. Do you remember, I mean, what are we talking here, man?

Craig David time where we had the little chin strap like that. And I remember trying to grow one. And I had pretty much was about, oh, it was about 85% there. And I just had a little gap. I used to brush the hair over to try and make it all like it linked up and that. But, yeah, luckily for me those days, I like a tough tackling midfielder with a good beard. Do you remember Stuart Sinclair?

He used to be with Bristol Rovers. You look like a sailor. Yes, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want to shoot at Stinclair? Miele Yedanaq, of course, of Crystal Palace. That's a hell of a beard, that. That's a proper bit. Shimpads, guys, come on.

I'm going to throw this into the game's gone because, listen, man, there's just, there's nothing there, lull. I've got my little nine-year-old now rolling around, like, he's socks a damn, like. He ain't got big calves, mate. because he sees it on the box and people like you you sure they're not just

falling down his socks bless him mate honestly it's uh game's gone mate get your proper shin pads get your socks pulled up to your knees Joe you used to have your socks over your knees didn't they I think you introduced that trend

No that was never me Jovi used to wear the ankle my legs weren't big enough The Nike ankle man mate them glass ankles 100% a couple slabs down the front

and he was good to go sorry best beard in football mele yeah Johnny Williams has got a really good beard. Yeah, but he's got no hair on his head. Well, yeah, because he's upside down. Yeah, that kind of makes it look even more pronounced, doesn't it? Yeah. I think

if you've got, if you're follically challenged, let's call it, on the sunroof, I think you have to have a strong beard. Joby, what's your hair maintenance routine? Because that is that is some, you know, head of hair you've got, we used to call it the brillo pad once

upon a time, but it's, you're a handsome mask. The younger listeners are like, what is a brillo pad, mate? And I swear much. childhood using them. The old steel wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How'd you maintain it? You know what, as I've got to be honest, man.

It's just a little bit of care, a bit of conditioner, a bit of shampoo. Not enough dye at the moment. I'm getting to that stage where I might have to start going for a little bit of dye in there. But, no, just regular trims. I think that's the key to it. Regular trims, keep fresh. Not get any spaghetti shouts on my barnet, mate. Joe Ledley.

Great shout for a beard. Yes. Oloff, Melberg, back in the day. A bit unkempt that one I'm not sure Joe Ledley I had the privilege of playing alongside him

Not for very long But that was That was a great beard Really good professional as well Really good professional And a good guy Speaking of people with beards I mean

Marcus Hanneman Your former goalkeeper at Redding Who! Joby Yeah it was before my time though I've got to say And he was absolutely Bonkers Obviously

American Like proper Like the lads that used to play with him were like nah this geez it was crazy they all are really but i think he was on other level to be fair what about fabian bartez he was just bald yeah but he had the old little thingy thingy oh the yeah bobby pierres bobby that was like one hair from his bottom but you know what that was stylish yeah it was continental stylish not not not english stylish look good Really did.

Do we enjoy the John Mussini I will still handshake after Pompey Nill or Southampton Nill, Pompy Nill? Two cool Conte vibes there long? It's a bit of a power move, isn't it? It's, uh, there you go. I'm in your backyard and I can still do this to you. I've got to say on that,

we were watching the game up in the studio and he's got really good arms. He's been in the gym. The move. He has. Oh, mate. Yeah, he's got a t-shirt on still, which to be fair, I'm like fair play to you.

It was obviously for a reason. I mean, his biceps were bulging. I think it was just that, let's just make sure in case anyone has missed it, everyone, because the grip was firm. I've got to be honest. And Will's didn't like it. It's probably the most exciting thing that happened

the whole day. I've got to be fair. Didn't see anywhere near as much action as that than we did on the pitch. So, yeah, I'd say 1-0, Mersignor. I mean, they did get moosed, didn't they? They did get moosed. Jove, did you ever play against John Mersio?

Oh, God. Gosh, possibly. Because I did. He was exceedingly strong. Yes, and very, very aggressive. It was an aggressive handshake. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you a word for it, mate.

I like him. How do you think he's evolved as a manager, Chobes? I think he's done brilliant, mate. And the reason I say that, and we'll get onto it with the Shefford United chat a little bit later. But he hasn't been afraid to adapt. I think you look at that Portsmouth side that got promoted was a really, really good football inside, you know, dominated games with the ball, created. opportunities. And I think for all coaches, all managers, that's the ideal scenario, you know.

But when they got promoted and they started struggling a bit and listen, injuries, no Kobe Bishop, he tweeted, he went a little bit longer, found a way to be effective and give aside a chance to get results. And guess what? They start getting results. And then now it's, I think, the next phase of building the players that they've added, Connor Chaplin, Segerich, I really, really like so far. Just that little bit of quality in the final third, but don't lose that. base and being hard to beat and then you can just start added layers to it rather than

jump into it straight away so big future in the game I think he comes across magnificently and he's done such a good job down there and it's just great to see the club bouncing you know it really is a special place for Atham Park when that is popping I think we'll get a better atmosphere down there for the second

Derby that's for sure great to hear from Steve Evans and see him on last week's episode talking about his fitness journey's conditioning schedule out in Dubai in Abu Dhabi not so big Steve any more, Sveldt, Steve? Some man, some man. I commented it on a post on Instagram last week, I think it was,

and I got a lot of stick for it from a few people, and I'm just thinking the fact that I have respect for a man who has, in ways, shaped small periods of the EFL is apparently a sticking point with some people. He's in the love him or hate him category, isn't it? I think with the lights of Neil Warnock. Maybe even Chris Wilder. Do you know who isn't hated?

Who's like universally loved? Phil Brown. Joby, you got absolutely done up like a kipper in our group chat this week. You thought he'd taken the Peterborough job. Well, he has. He's taking the Peterborough sports job. Are you surprised? Well, funny enough, it's our producer, Neuf.

He's a massive posh fan. And it was off the back of our big chat about Peterborough and how bad a start they'd had. And then he sticks in the group, oh, Phil Brown's going to Peterborough. And I'm like, surely they haven't panicked and got rid of Ferguson. And then it was obviously all a hoax, but great to see him. I mean, listen, the 72 plus pod strikes again. We've got another gaffer back into work. Sad to lose him, but I know it's what he definitely wants to do.

So good luck to me. Make sure you're doing all that paperwork, yeah, because I mean, that's what we do. We are the job club, aren't we? Yeah, the last time I was on here, I don't believe I had a job, and then I did have a job. There you go. There you go. Yeah, job seekers. He's a, he's a, he's a job club club.

He's in the National League North now, Philip. It'll be down there. And do you know what? Funny enough, Joby, had a message in from Ben George, who, how do you say tweeted? Do you say X to me or message me on X? I don't know what you want to say. Still tweeted, I know.

He tweeted. So Aaron, does Phil Brown's hiring at Peterborough Sports? Their nickname's the turbines. Anyway, does his hiring at Peterborough Sports affect him being a guest from 702+. I'd miss his northern tones if so, although I will have to get more invested in Peterborough Sports. I just said, look, our people are talking to his people will probably have to offer him a week in Mallorca and a crate of pork pies as a sweetener

because that's the kind of guy Phil Brown is. He'll be back, don't worry about that. To all the listeners that love a bit of Phil, he will be back. He's obviously going to have his hands pretty full up, but he always makes time for us, don't he? He does, he does, Warfillip, absolutely top, top man. This is 72 plus, the home of the NFL from Five Live Sport. Let's get straight into it.

We'll be talking strikers with our all-time ultimate EFL 11 in a bit, but a big story this week. Chrissy Wilder is back at Sheffield United. In other news, water is wet. That to replace Ruben says, are you surprised, Lyle Taylor? No, I mean, I have been, it's been a one-way conversation between you and I

over the last four or five weeks where I keep saying to you, surely he's gone by now, surely he's gone by, and you keep saying, no, I think they'll stick with him. And is water wet? Or does water make things wet? I don't know, but Chris Wilder is very much Sheffield United in the same way that Chris Morgan was very much Sheffield United, so he's very much part of furniture.

I was completely shocked in the summer when he was relieved of his position. I don't believe there's many times in the last 25, 30 years, you can get 92 points, not be promoted for one and then lose your job. it doesn't seem sensical to my rational mind but it seems they've realized the error of their ways and they've sought to fix what they broke Joby producer Nathan puts together some notes for us kindly for the pod and you know we have sort of discussions and whatnot this is a really funny bullet point he's put alongside it said

where did it go wrong for Sayers played six lost six I think you've answered your own question yeah i think he has and listen just looking at that you know clearly there's no other direction it's going to go in but i think there's more to it when you've seen them play the performances and you know i touched on john rucino about having to adapt at times and you look at what he's tried to do in games have been way too open um none more so then particularly in that second half against ipswich where they just fell apart really and i just think he hasn't set the team up well enough. And I think that's the big contrast to Chris Wilder. Those results and the way that

that team folded would never ever happen under Chris Wilder. You know, you get them organized or get him running. He'll get them working together. And then it's about the quality coming to the fore, which again, they have got. But we haven't seen any of the quality. I mean, goal scoring's been pretty much non-existent in the league and apart from the first game of the season. And they've just not looked like scoring. And then on top of that, they've just been so open. So, listen, no surprises at all. I'm with Lyle. Should never have got. got rid of them in the first place. Credit to the board for making one bad mistake, but actually, you know, trying to rectify it now.

Jobs, my question to you is this, and obviously your former Redding, so you'll have a better probably viewpoint on this than me. Was what Sayas did beforehand good enough to take over a Sheffield United team that should have been promoted last year? We're playing a, I suppose, a really effective and pretty but also gritty brand of football last season. We're unlucky. Is what he did previously at Reading and Hull, was it enough to be given that job? The quick answer is no, but I don't want to be too dismissive of him because he did do a really good job at Redding in the circumstances.

But for me, and the big point of this is, it's a completely different job. It's a different remit. You've come from Redding where you basically couldn't lose because of the financial issues you had there. And it was just getting a group together that could go out and perform. And he did that in difficult circumstances. Probably the other one is whole for me, Lail, that I would look at, you know, just about kept them up. So you're talking about a team at one end of the table where survival was the remit for him. And then Sheffield United, which is a massive football.

There's no two ways about it. And you only feel that when you go to Bramwell-lane, particularly at this level. you know everyone at that club expects him to be getting promoted clearly Chris Wilder didn't do that he lost his job so there's an expectation there's a pressure around certain jobs at certain levels of the EFL Sheffield United is definitely one of them in the championship and I just don't feel he was the right fit because he's never had that before and I just I was really concerned about that half the job at Sheffield United is knowing how big it is and someone who can actually

deal with it are there any mitigating circumstances for Ruben Tehersia can we talk about the owners coming in, this AI transfer model, binning off Chris Wilder when they pick up 90 points and fail to go up. Are they mitigating circumstances? Can you say, yeah, you know what? He's been given a bit of a rough ride. The nature of the way they made their transfers and they did their business. I mean, I was there when they got beaten by Millwall at home,

and Ruben Sayers was talking about how they needed to bring players in and they needed to do some business. Joby, they left it late, very, very late. You can't expect a team to jail that quickly. that's the only thing I'd say is a slight asterisk from my perspective. Yeah, but again, how much of that he was privy to and would understand going in is something we'll never know. But listen, I think if you understand you're going to be losing Vinnie Sousa,

you know, absolute rock in the middle of that part. I mean, that is a huge hole to fill and they haven't filled it yet. You know, Armid Hodzich, sent a back, been at the club for years. You know, Kiefermore leaves as well. Jack Robinson was a really interesting one for me. He just is your club captain. he knows everything about that football club again for me as a young coach going there

he's the one that I'm trying to get all that information about you know just help me out I'm a young coach but then he goes out the door and then I think to compound that early on the transfers were like you say all the AI football manager stuff someone going right yeah brilliant his stats match

up to this and his stats match up to that let's get him in again no experience at the level and young kids and then all of a sudden it's to panic right Danny Ings comes in Ben Me comes in and they did not give him the time with those players

but for me it was already too late as and I think what Chris Wilder has got now is a squad capable of turning things round and getting the squad going Aaron McLean was on BBC Final squad the weekend and said this doesn't mean

says as a bad manager it's just the club and the players that aren't the right fit I mean you don't say no to Sheffield United you don't say no to them if you're off of that job in the championship

phenomenal squad obviously there's going to be changes but you will be backed how much control yeah it's going to be limited but is he a good manager I believe he was set up to fail from the instant they decided

to sack the manager that got 92 points the fans are always going to look at that and go oh hang on you've got to be Jose Marino or Pep Guardiola or God knows what to come in and take that team mix it around, jumble it up, throw a few out the door, and then get more than 92 points.

It just seemed almost, maybe not knee-jerk. Maybe knee-jerk is probably too quick, but it was a knee-jerk reaction that just took a couple of weeks or a few weeks, and I just never saw the point of sacking the man who did such a good job. Yes, he failed in the ultimate goal of getting promoted, but he didn't fail in the way they did it and the points tally they got.

I think that was, sorry, I think that was the big thing with the, who next. And if you are going to get rid of Wilder, who's an experienced head initially, I think if, and I'm just going to throw a couple of names out, a Sean Daesh, if a Steve Cooper comes in after him, you know, proven, I think can handle that level of expectation and the size of the club. I think fans would be a bit like, all right, fair enough, Chris has had a crack, hasn't worked. Now we need to get someone in who we really believe. I think the fact it was Ruben Sayers, just to build on love.

point, that is when even more questions because you've now got right, we've got rid of him, which there was a section of the fan base that were not happy with how last season ended and felt like they might need a new direction. Let's hear from Chris Wilder. I come back to help the football club.

I'm in a unique situation. Quite easily I could have not taken up the opportunity. It's amazing maybe how your stock goes up when you're not even in work and you're not even on the side of a pitch. But, you know, there it is to help the football club, to restore a little bit of pride,

restore some belief into the players and gets out the position that we're in. You know, it's certainly a position that the owners weren't expecting the club to be in. But we are, they are for a reason. And as I said, the players have to accept some responsibility for that. You know, bottom of the league in jewels, you know, bottom three or four in terms of running, stats. The game doesn't change. The fighting the players has to be shown and that shows that they're not fighting and at the moment they're not running around. People can talk about the reasons why they're not doing that but first and foremost I don't compromise on those

aspects of the game and the top guys don't compromise. So if people think in the Premier League people don't run around and don't tackle and don't compete then they're completely off what football is all about. We'd all love to play Champagne football and do maybe what Leeds United did last season and play this free-flowing game with the players that they had. But that wasn't the situation that we were put in at the start of the season.

And you have to grind out results and by hook or by crook, gain those results through different qualities. We have the players to do everything here, to fight and to grind one out and to play decent football. in the middle of it of course and as i said i understand um and respect the decision made um but picking up from where we where we sort of um left off in terms of our build and development i'm

really looking forward to if it was any other football club would you have said you've made your bed sleep in it possibly yeah yeah possibly yeah this is a special club for me so and as you know a unique club for me so yeah i possibly would say yeah to that i wasn't looking for an apology or you know I'm not looking to come in and I'm not smug about the situation. I'm not sat back and thinking, oh, that's great. They lost. I think some managers might be, but I'm not. It's my life, it's my pal's life, it's my family's life, as we all know,

and we want the club to succeed. Could you get back into the promotion mix? Well, one game at a time, but it's not impossible. Statistically, it's been shown a team in our position, you know, can win games of football and go on a run. But, you know, as I said, we're not in a great position at the moment, so small steps but first and foremost

making sure we get every day right Sheffred you're not for the playoffs now why not the one thing you know you'll get from Chris Wilder is he'll galvanise the fans and the red and white half

of the city and if the players can pick up and go with him then why not I certainly feel they can make up a bit of ground and it is a bit of ground but I think when you look at the top end of the table like we've spoken and Southampton

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So we've got a centre half and a left back who we're on the hump for. Ian Ashby, Adam Larner, Peter Whittingham on midfield, 3. Vardy, Mitcherich and Lambert up. top. Remember, you can send us your suggestions on WhatsApp for us to discuss. Make Football Daily a contact is 08,289-369 and send us your message or as a voice note. This week, Larl is of course with us. We're going to fish out a striker suggestion from the inbox. Darren from Cornwall says, how can you have come this round to the conversation, not talked about Lee Trundle, absolute icon of the NFL, showboat king and someone you just needed to watch. Lyle Taylor, discuss. Lee Trundle was the EFL's version of Ron Aldino for me growing up watching soccer A.M.

We used to watch soccer A.M and it was not a skill school. Techers! The showboat. Showboat. And Lee Trundle was on there every single week doing all sorts of madness. Yeah, you know what? I'm going to go with that because again, I think, like you say, just watching what he would do.

It wasn't normal, was it? And he's that type of player that would literally make you stop when you see. I mean, I remember him, you know, he'd catch it on his sort of behind his neck and then roll it out. And then he's doing kickups and flicking it over people and rainbow flicks. And not just that, by the way, sticking it in the top bin as well from 25 yards out. He was a fantastic finisher as well. So there was a substance to the magic as well. And there wasn't a lot of players doing that back then.

I think now we live in an area where everything gets clipped up, you know, one skill in a game. and everyone then thinks this guy's a baller. He was a baller, absolutely. You know, he's a Swansea legend. He's an EFL legend. One that actually did slip by me, but he's the type of player. Just thinking about some of the things I see him,

he just makes you smile, as he really does. He's one of those that just brings joy. And I think we've lost that. I really do feel we've lost that in the game because it is so now sanitised players are told not to do a skill because you might lose the ball, you know, keep it ticking over. But none of that with Lee Trundle,

just a fantastic player to watch. The ability to just put a smile on your face while they're playing the beautiful game. And that's what the beautiful game was. That's the game we grew up loving and enjoying was when players would just do something special and you'd go outside with your mates and try and recreate that.

Can you imagine if social media was around as big as it is now in Lee Trundle's era? I mean, what a superstar E would be. And listen, I think those. in the game we knew and you know you say talk about um soccer am it's a massive show for everyone watching you know in the morning and that gave him you know obviously rightfully so the spotlight but can you imagine now if you had a player doing that sort of stuff even at that level on a weekly basis i mean ridiculous he's still playing now i think ain't he i see sort of little

clips of him uh still going i think yeah leet trundle i believe so i believe so playing for pure Swansea FC. Formerly Swansea University Football Club. He's a bit old for you isn't he? You're never too old, Joey. You're never too old. So I'm going to say Trundall has to be in the squad. I would love to be

in and around that squad training seeing him do his stuff. He's not going to get in the starting line up for me, I'm sorry. But I mean, this is going to be on Lyle. That's my opinion. We've got Lyle here, striking expert. You know who's in the starting team already Lardier? Jamie Vardy. Ricky Lambert, Jamie Vardy, and

Mitrovich and no Billy Sharp which I think Yeah that's No Billy Sharp, no Jordan Rhodes No Lewis Grabin No Louis Graben No Lewis Grabben So big

We're gonna have to go Wix And get ourselves A new Timbor Why don't we just play Just play one goalkeeper And ten strikers And they can just figure it out Get out of field

We said a few months ago Make long ball football sexy again Make Route 1 sexy Well Erlin Harland Has made the nine sexy again In my opinion single-handedly he's made BNA 9 sexy again

from the previous generation of Harry Kane and Levindovsky and Benzamar and obviously Ronaldo Do you know who's making it sexy in the NFL? Michael Cheek. Yeah, old school 9. Proper. Anyway, this squad, I don't know who's paying for it because that is a mega squad list and bench and whatnot.

Joby, get working on the woodwork because we're going to have some serious squad to put on it. To send us your suggestions, add Football Daily as a contact on WhatsApp. 289-389. You can send us a message or even a voice note of 8,000 289-3-6-9. Let's finish with this. 72-plus, 72-minus on the Football Daily. Yeah, it's time for Joel's best and worst moments of the week in the Football League and Job's, an East Anglian theme this week. Yeah, absolutely. I've got to go for the main man, Jaden, Philogeen, with a brilliant hat trick. Absolutely gave Ben Godfrey. nightmares. I think he's still probably not slept since that night.

Absolute Torrid. A couple of goals coming in on his right foot and smashing it into either corner and then he just thought, you know, for the hat trick. I'm going to do exactly the opposite. Little step over. Takes it onto his left foot and then smashes it into the top corner. Brilliant performance from him. Terrible one from Sheffield United, but in Swichtown wouldn't care at all. And here is how it sounded. Philo Jean on two goals. Trying for his hand trick. Oh, what a hundred. What a hit that was from Jayton Villagie! An unbelievable night for him.

Two off his right foot and then a thunderous left foot effort which left Cupid by grasping it there. Brenner Woolley of BBC Radio Suffolk bringing us that commentary. Alar your hat trick overlooked somewhat. Yeah, but I can understand why having seen the goal that brings up his hatchet, it was one hell of a strike, so clean as well on his left side. Tapin Taylor. Joe Biel, 72 minus, please. Well, this is definitely a member for the Just Clear It Brigade.

Harry Darling, 1-0-up, Norwich. They've been absolutely peppered all game. We're now in the 97th minute of the game. Ball comes into the box. It isn't a good cross. It actually takes a touch first. All he's got to do is kick the ball off the pitch, tries to Dilly and Dally on it, gets caught,

Coventry win the ball back, go and get an equal. I mean, what chance have you got us? Absolutely. Let's have it. Ben Ibeek squeezes the ball across. There's Harry Darling to cut it out, but he hasn't got it away. Sims with a chance. Haji Wright walks it into the net. And there is a late, late equaliser for Coventry City.

The Canaries had the chance to clear it. They didn't take the chance to clear it. And it rolled towards the goal. Haji Wright was there to steer it in. Do you know what? On day one, a defending school. Do you know what I'd show defenders? Do you remember the old John Smith's advert with Peter Kay?

Have it. Have it. When he, they're all like sort of in that little rondo. And he's just, and they're just doing kick up. He just smashes it into someone's garden. Joby, why do people do that? Just get rid of it. Rose did it?

Honestly, that one in particular, though, because the game's done. Like, you know, as soon as you clear that ball, the final whistle goes, you've won it. I just don't understand. what has gone through his head I would be absolutely livid as a manager and actually as a teammate because he's let everybody down as it

it's just ridiculous man it is just I just can't fathom it from an experience player as well ridiculous okay there's no way Joby that you're going to give me the answer that I want to this next question someone asks you La La when you get back in the dressing room do you batter him 100%

100% I mean we trust the words the words that would be said cannot be said right now but you can imagine all manner of colourful language and it probably

get to the point of quite personal insult to be me all right that's probably I wouldn't quite get to that level I can imagine do you want me to give you

a Jobe pretend you're Harry Darling Walkins the dressing all right yeah hey as man we did we did

we did I just stick it out of the pitch has I was fighting for us Talk to some of the players that played under me during my captaincy years, and I think you'd get a different answer. I was all about winning, mate, and that would genuinely, because of the nature of it as, like, they've absolutely grafted.

They got battered. If they'd have got away with that 1-0, it would have been smash and grab FC, right? So again, you can feel that, and it's just a decision. That's all it is. It's not something you can't do. You haven't got skinned, you know, like Ben Godfrey could not live with Fulagin, right? That's a different story. just clear the ball.

That's it. I would have gone ballistic, mate. I'd love to have sort of be in a fly on the one dressing room when Joby's doing his thing. But can you imagine in your former years, Joby, if that was you, that senior players then, you'd have been had up the wall, by the way,

and launched across a dressing room. I'm almost getting out ahead of it, Lyle. If that's me, I'm coming in, like waiting for everyone to come in, yeah, literally. So sorry. Then wait for the Gaffer to turn up. Then it's double.

Again, as that don't really happen as much these days with Gaffers, it'll be like, you know, Harry. you know next time you know i'm like again you'll go through your clips wouldn't you to get absolutely pelted by the gaffer like and then just hold your hands up take it on the chin and move on mate i remember on debut

for ballmer if i gave the ball away on the halfway line we were playing against knox county i believe it was i think we were three one up at one point and i think for the second goal i gave the ball away trying to flick it on the halfway line and i have never been so scared in all my life we drew three all and i came into the dressing room afterwards and eddie howe was stood there and he was looking at me and i said swear to you, from that point

forward playing under Eddie, I never flicked the ball on the halfway line again. I thought you're going to say, Eddie Hal was just stood there looking at me and Jason Tyndall started kicking off. Right, very quickly, if there's one manager in the 72 that you wouldn't want to get

a tell-in-off from who would it be? I know who mine is. Who are yours? Right now. I've got to be someone old school, I would say. You know what, I'm going to go for Ian Holloway. I reckon he could be pretty spicy. I'm going to go for Uncle Stee. Steve, he's mellowed a bit.

No, do you know what, right? I, do you know what? And he tried to sign me when I was leaving Falkirk and I went to Sheffield United. He was the Rother Room manager. And he scared me. He scared me. With the words he said when I didn't sign for him, he scared me. Now, he's mellowed.

He has mellowed. But he scared me. What about Brucey? Steve Bruce? Oh. I've started watching The Sopranos and I'd imagine that Steve Evans and Paul Rainer, it's sort of like a sopranos-esque vibe. You know, they just sat there together.

But he's looking and you're waiting for something to happen. Paul Ray and it's like, Ro, is it worse, though, Jobes, when somebody talks to you in a very controlled voice, is that worse than screaming and shouting and like kicking, Ferguson kicking the boot across the room and getting David Beckham and he said, I would genuinely hate one of Darren Ferguson,

Nigel Clough, because he'd be disappointed with you as well. I think he'd talk to you so controlled, but he'd be raging with you. You feel like you're disappointed You're dad You crash your dad's car The one I'd hate is Nathan Jones I hate to take it

He's so passionate though He is so passionate with it I think you'd get to a point Of you've been scolded so badly That he goes off on him Like Yeah that's the thing And then comes back

And circles around and goes No hang on You're the one that messed up I'm gonna batter you again Did you hear him post Kane Ramsey getting a red The other day for Charlton And he was pretty angry

In the post-match media so I can imagine what he would have been like in that dressing room. You just say it goes off on Tunders. Can you imagine? Lyle, I told you to stay at friend, and the lasagna was cold at lunch today, and the salad was in there, and my car's broken.

It would be hilarious. I just, yeah, love you, Nathan. Please don't ban me from Blue Water. Let's talk about fantasy. Sherma Bulldogs' top of the league, once again. They've stolen my tactic of captain in, Jack Rodoney. Look, what can I say? I found him first.

I didn't discover him, but I captained in. 72 plus league code is 72 EFL pod. That's number seven. The number two, EFL pod. Job's any picks from you this week? I had a leaf Davis clean sheet frips against Sheffield United. Jobie, Davis, Keywood done in there?

Classic case of changing my defenders and then no one kept a clean sheet and everyone I had did. And then Keeler done, coming up big, as he does most weeks. He's an absolute shoeing in midfield for anyone who hasn't got him yet. I'm like the marini over the fantasy football world. I had a great season.

what, 10, 12 years ago, I won a league. And I'm living off that now. That's a good luck to Josette Benfica, by the way. We'd love to see him in the EFL one day. Oh, can you imagine? Oh, could you imagine? The sound bites you'd get. Gillingham or something.

I don't know if there's a budget big enough for Josie. Could you imagine it at Gillingham, Swindon? Well, his family was still here, weren't they, for a time when he moved. They don't live on the medway. No, well, they might do. No, they don't. They live in Central London. That would be something to see Jose Marino,

one of the best to have done it in our, of an era, in our lifetime, to see him in the EF. I'd love to see him in league too. You imagine the circus that would follow that football club. Man. That would be worth it to wait in gold. Forget Rexham, forget any story, blues, any documentary. If Jose pitched up at Gillingham or at Swindon or somewhere like that,

It would be box office. It'd be incredible. Do you know what? Wrexham could be a goremer, mate, I reckon. Depend on if they don't sort themselves out. Get Chelmsford to the Football League. I'll be sporting director and we're bringing in Jose. You heard it here first.

What's the day? It's like your election pledge that they do in Spain. It's Wednesday the 17th of September. And I've said it, Josie Marino to Chelmsford. Can you imagine? You're just like, Josie, are you hoping to bring some more players in the Chelmsford? Ask Mr. Taylor. Ask Mr. Taylor.

Mr. Teller, have the money? I have nothing. That would be amazing. This has been a wild podcast. Thank you very much, Lyle. As ever, seen you in the building. There's nothing like it. There's nothing like it.

Thank you, Lyle Taylor. Thank you, Jobes. Nice one, mate. Be good. That is it for this episode of the Football Daily on the next one. We will have reaction to to buy me in at Chelsea

and Liverpool, Athletico Madrid and the UEFA Champions League. Astros here on 72 Plus. We'll be back next week. Catch you then. sound harder next time. Honestly. The world's gone soft.

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