Football Daily - 72+ EFL Pod: Williams to Posh & Reading get Richardson
Episode Date: October 29, 2025Aaron Paul, Jobi McAnuff & Phil Brown talk Peterborough appointing Luke Williams. Also Reading swap Noel Hunt for Leam Richardson. Hear from Frank Lampard with Coventry City flying in the Champion...ship. And will Billy Sharp & Michael Brown make our 72+ Ultimate All-Time EFL XI? Send your suggestions to us on WhatsApp to 08000 289 369.03:40 ‘Fergie time’ is up at Peterborough United 07:50 Grease up the managerial merry-go-round 10:40 Leam Richardson replaces Noel Hunt at Reading 14:45 FA Cup first round games to watch 18:00 Coventry City flying 29:05 Sheff Wed fans rally around the club 31:20 Stewards get attention in League One 35:30 Jobi’s ‘jobsworth’ steward 38:45 Billy Sharp & Michael Brown for our Ultimate EFL XI? 41:50 Late winners in 72PLUS 72MINUS5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Wed 1945 Liverpool v Crystal Palace in EFL Cup, Sat 1500 Nottingham Forest v Man Utd, Sat 1500 Burnley v Arsenal on Sports Extra, Sat 1730 Tottenham v Chelsea, Sun 1400 West Ham v Newcastle, Sun 1630 Man City v Bournemouth.
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                                        Welcome to 72 plus, the EFL pod from Five Livesport, as ever with me, my right arm,
                                         
                                        the Neil MacDonald to my Phil Brown, the Paul Rainer to my Steve Evans,
                                         
                                        the, I'm trying to think of other legendary combinations,
                                         
                                        the Richard Dobson to my Garth Ainsworth.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, it is Joe McEnough.
                                         
                                        Hello, mate.
                                         
                                        You're okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah, very well, thank you.
                                         
                                        Nice to hear you, as I always do, because you're always working, but it was out and about.
                                         
                                        Yeah, true.
                                         
                                        We've got to keep business.
                                         
                                        mate, isn't we? So yeah, I was out and about
                                         
    
                                        a bit of commentary co-coms
                                         
                                        4 or 5 live the other day over at
                                         
                                        Arsenal with my old team Crystal Palace
                                         
                                        who were brilliant by the way, they were really really
                                         
                                        unlucky, played well first half but
                                         
                                        1-0 to the Arsenal. Where have we heard
                                         
                                        that before, right? Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                        The Sammy Lee to my Sam
                                         
    
                                        Aladais, little Sam and big Sam
                                         
                                        Mark two. You heard me
                                         
                                        now, you heard me with that one. Oh, there he is
                                         
                                        the new Peterborough boss, Phil Brown. That's
                                         
                                        Peterborough Sport by the way, not Peterborough United
                                         
                                        I'm just thinking about your combination
                                         
                                        with Jobi there, so that's managing, assistant manager.
                                         
                                        Where does that put me on the show? Because I come on
                                         
    
                                        quite regular. Is it sort of an
                                         
                                        interim coach? Do I'm trying to say you want to be the
                                         
                                        gaffer? Absolutely. I'm arguing
                                         
                                        that all the way through.
                                         
                                        You're not going to like what we've done with your
                                         
                                        ultimate 11, because your main man's
                                         
                                        gone, pal. Anyway.
                                         
                                        Oh no. Yeah. How's life in National League North?
                                         
    
                                        I'm really, really enjoying it.
                                         
                                        I know managers always say that, but it really is a
                                         
                                        it's an unbelievable challenge. You're just talking
                                         
                                        to Jobie before we came on here.
                                         
                                        And it's almost a different sport, Aaron, at this level.
                                         
                                        And what I mean by a different sport,
                                         
                                        it's part-time footballers,
                                         
                                        players that are coming from a day's work
                                         
    
                                        and then trying to fulfill what they can do
                                         
                                        on a football pitch for 90 minutes.
                                         
                                        And it's got me thinking in so many different ways.
                                         
                                        And you've only got them a couple of days a week training,
                                         
                                        but the challenge to get a tune out of a player
                                         
                                        that's been grafted in probably 50, 60 hours a week,
                                         
                                        it's a different challenge.
                                         
                                        And the football at this level,
                                         
    
                                        I'm telling you, it's off the map.
                                         
                                        People are trying to play, people are trying to pass the ball, like a man's city, like, you know, some of the top teams.
                                         
                                        And they're just trying to emulate one of the good coaches are doing.
                                         
                                        So I'm really, really enjoying it.
                                         
                                        More importantly, Philip, what I want to know is, look, you're a man who enjoys the finer things in life.
                                         
                                        You always carry a nice bottle of something in the boot just in case.
                                         
                                        You've often got a neckerchief on.
                                         
                                        You look good.
                                         
    
                                        You feel good.
                                         
                                        You smell good.
                                         
                                        When you go to these opposition grounds, when you go to Kurson-Ashton, when you go to Southport, is there hospitality extended, maybe?
                                         
                                        the manager's office
                                         
                                        are you offered a glass or something
                                         
                                        maybe a smoke salmon sandwich
                                         
                                        someone along the way?
                                         
                                        It doesn't happen at this level
                                         
    
                                        and I'm really disappointed that it doesn't
                                         
                                        because it's open in my neck of the woods
                                         
                                        you come to Peterer
                                         
                                        you're getting a glass of wine before June
                                         
                                        and after the game
                                         
                                        and that'll be my chairman looking after you
                                         
                                        the hospitality at our football club is brilliant
                                         
                                        but I want to extend that to the managers
                                         
    
                                        and I want it to be the norm
                                         
                                        and it's not far from it
                                         
                                        It's time for you to become a trendsetter I think
                                         
                                        I think you should be out there
                                         
                                        you should be encouraging a positive environment amongst managers
                                         
                                        in and around the non-leagues.
                                         
                                        Beautiful.
                                         
                                        Are you guys a Peterborough sport looking over at the event south of the River Neen,
                                         
    
                                        Peterbury United thinking, God, what a shambles over there.
                                         
                                        We take them on tomorrow, we beat him.
                                         
                                        Well, let me run by you what I know.
                                         
                                        First and foremost, obviously, Sir Alex Ferguson's son I followed into Preston North End,
                                         
                                        and it was a bumpy ride straight away
                                         
                                        because he's following in a legend's son
                                         
                                        and he's had a great career
                                         
                                        there's no doubt about it.
                                         
    
                                        He's fourth time he's the manager of Peterbury United
                                         
                                        and we've been across there
                                         
                                        we've got a relationship
                                         
                                        I've got a couple of players in my team
                                         
                                        that actually coached at the academy
                                         
                                        and coached Peterbury United
                                         
                                        so the relationships there
                                         
                                        my chairman is a Peterbury United supporter
                                         
    
                                        but he just wanted to do his own thing
                                         
                                        and that's the reason why he bought Peterborough Sports
                                         
                                        and I'm finding out about all these things
                                         
                                        and obviously we know about the legends
                                         
                                        that have played for them
                                         
                                        the chairman and the owner of the club
                                         
                                        it's a great football club is no doubt about it
                                         
                                        it's had some fantastic
                                         
    
                                        history as a club
                                         
                                        but at this moment it's time suffering
                                         
                                        and they've just changed management
                                         
                                        and I think it wouldn't take
                                         
                                        too much to get it back on track
                                         
                                        I think if they've changed manager so early
                                         
                                        they're looking to make sure that they're safe
                                         
                                        in the First Division this season
                                         
    
                                        and then they'll carry on from that
                                         
                                        some week isn't it?
                                         
                                        Yeah I've got to say
                                         
                                        our group chat was fairly lively
                                         
                                        wasn't it after the weekend's
                                         
                                        results and performances
                                         
                                        and I certainly feel there's a few
                                         
                                        teetering on the edge
                                         
    
                                        listen I'm an advocate of
                                         
                                        patience and given managers an opportunity
                                         
                                        I think I mean the ones
                                         
                                        that spring to mind clearly in Norwich which we touched
                                         
                                        on obviously last time and have a
                                         
                                        poor result for them
                                         
                                        obviously will still at Southampton
                                         
                                        really disappointing in terms of
                                         
    
                                        their start to this season as well
                                         
                                        and then obviously it was a Peterborough one that actually
                                         
                                        popped up first and foremost which probably wasn't a surprise i think you know what i will say um i
                                         
                                        thought it's handled with class um from darrow mcantony um i think just the tone of the statement
                                         
                                        we see so many don't we this day and age that are just really short very bland no real meaning
                                         
                                        and feeling behind him and whatever happens at a club you know and i can vouch for this haven't
                                         
                                        done it for a fraction of the time phil has but you know what a manager has to put in to the game
                                         
                                        in this day and age.
                                         
    
                                        It is 24-7.
                                         
                                        It's all-consuming.
                                         
                                        And whether it goes really well
                                         
                                        or really terribly,
                                         
                                        that doesn't change.
                                         
                                        And, you know,
                                         
                                        I think at the very least
                                         
                                        where managers do leave their position,
                                         
    
                                        a little tip of the hat,
                                         
                                        a bit of respect to be shown,
                                         
                                        is it should be the way forward.
                                         
                                        We don't always see it,
                                         
                                        but I thought that they've handled it
                                         
                                        brilliantly well, as they should do,
                                         
                                        because he is a legend
                                         
                                        at the football club,
                                         
    
                                        Darren Ferguson,
                                         
                                        and he's done such a good job
                                         
                                        over so many different periods.
                                         
                                        Do you think it's just on the back of
                                         
                                        he never going in at Blackpool
                                         
                                        and they're doing something like a change
                                         
                                        and they're trying to get out of the trouble that they're in
                                         
                                        because there's two great managers there
                                         
    
                                        you know he never replacing Stevie Bruce
                                         
                                        Black people have done something about it
                                         
                                        all of a sudden they've jumped and...
                                         
                                        Yeah I think with where I would sort of say
                                         
                                        I've got sympathy of Darren Ferguson
                                         
                                        is that squad's just been completely stripped
                                         
                                        and it is the Peterborough way, don't get me wrong
                                         
                                        you go and buy lower down
                                         
    
                                        you develop, you play players
                                         
                                        and then they obviously sell them on
                                         
                                        I just think with what they've lost
                                         
                                        particularly over the course of last season
                                         
                                        and, you know, Kiprianu, Poku, Malik Mavisil.
                                         
                                        I mean, you've ripped out probably half of a team
                                         
                                        that, by the way, we have to say,
                                         
                                        underperform last season as well.
                                         
    
                                        So I think you put that together
                                         
                                        with some of those newer signings
                                         
                                        and players that haven't quite found their level yet,
                                         
                                        it was always going to be difficult.
                                         
                                        And I don't think it's an easy job,
                                         
                                        but I just think a bit of a freshen up,
                                         
                                        maybe some slightly new ideas
                                         
                                        and a different direction is,
                                         
    
                                        I think everything considered
                                         
                                        probably where the football club needs to be
                                         
                                        at this point in time.
                                         
                                        Do you think they're in trouble?
                                         
                                        Yes, I do.
                                         
                                        Do you think it's salvageable?
                                         
                                        I do think it's salvageable because I do feel they have got some quality.
                                         
                                        I think it's a squad that is underperforming.
                                         
    
                                        Do I think it's a squad capable or would I have thought at the start of the season of competing for playoffs?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Should they be doing better than they are at the moment?
                                         
                                        Yes, definitely.
                                         
                                        I still think there's some players in there that are underperforming.
                                         
                                        But it's an interesting time there.
                                         
                                        Again, Luke Williams, we know the type of football that he wants to play,
                                         
                                        Darren McCantney's been quite open about his admiration for him in the past
                                         
    
                                        and he plays a type of football that isn't always conducive to, you know, being solid and
                                         
                                        organised and keeping clean sheets which probably at this point in time you would say
                                         
                                        would be the starting point considering how much they've struggled. So it'd be really
                                         
                                        interesting to see how they start. It's interesting you made the point about Blackpool
                                         
                                        and sort of them pushing Ian Everett and that setting the dominoes off because you look
                                         
                                        around Peterborough sacking Darren Ferguson and obviously you never in
                                         
                                        through the door at Blackpool
                                         
                                        Redding have made a change
                                         
    
                                        as well. Hunties gone.
                                         
                                        Plymouth, really interesting. Being beaten
                                         
                                        by Mansfield and Tom Cleverly
                                         
                                        saying he doesn't have nine lives and that he has to turn
                                         
                                        things around really quickly to keep
                                         
                                        his job. We talk about the clubs in
                                         
                                        the championship as well. Obviously
                                         
                                        Sheffield Wednesday on exemption.
                                         
    
                                        Sheffield United have made a change. Question marks
                                         
                                        over Norwich, Blackburn, Southampton
                                         
                                        could Oxford be drawn into that as well.
                                         
                                        I feel over the next
                                         
                                        three, four weeks, this is going to
                                         
                                        set a light. And you see the international break coming
                                         
                                        where owners were looking at it and go, right,
                                         
                                        this is the last international break before Christmas, before the window.
                                         
    
                                        Get someone in now, make the change, decide where we're going to go in January
                                         
                                        and give it a go. Because some of these situations, Jobes and Phil,
                                         
                                        are wild when you see the clubs that are lurking around in certain areas.
                                         
                                        Aaron, you know, I close my eyes there and I can't see on the screen.
                                         
                                        But I'm telling you, I'm listening to an owner talking there.
                                         
                                        That's exactly the way they're thinking now.
                                         
                                        That's exactly.
                                         
                                        You've just gone through a trail of what the owner will be thinking.
                                         
    
                                        If we get to the next international break
                                         
                                        and we haven't won another game by then
                                         
                                        and we're in the bottom three or we're starting to get cut of drift,
                                         
                                        we've got to start putting together or formulating a plan
                                         
                                        to get the next manager in.
                                         
                                        And that's even without a sacking.
                                         
                                        But that's what I suppose good senior management's all about.
                                         
                                        You know, was the Darren Ferguson sacking too late?
                                         
    
                                        It doesn't matter.
                                         
                                        It's happened now.
                                         
                                        And they'll be thinking exactly the same way
                                         
                                        as what your question said there.
                                         
                                        Well, I think that's our dynamic sorted anyway, Phil, in it?
                                         
                                        Because Aaron's now going to be the owner.
                                         
                                        You can be the Gaffler, I'll be the assistant.
                                         
                                        I think we've sorted that out.
                                         
    
                                        As you've just got to find out what club it is.
                                         
                                        Can't be too far up north for me, mate.
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
                                        I never travelled that well when I was a player.
                                         
                                        So just let us know.
                                         
                                        Phil, do you reckon that owners are going to be looking for managers out of work
                                         
                                        purely because of the cost bases?
                                         
                                        Are our clubs still willing to go and pay fees to get managers out of their contracts?
                                         
    
                                        But it would also be exactly what you're saying, budgetary driven, you know,
                                         
                                        shall we budget for where we're going to be, okay, can we give, you know,
                                         
                                        at the start of the season you're going to see, right, if we're in the top six,
                                         
                                        or we're hanging around the top six, can we give the managers some more money?
                                         
                                        Can we support them better in the transfer market, you know, when the window opens, etc., etc.
                                         
                                        But then if we're in the bottom three, have we got a contingency plan?
                                         
                                        And therefore, can we cut him loose and then bring somebody else in?
                                         
                                        Can we cater for that?
                                         
    
                                        So they will, if it's proper senior management, they will be planning for these moments.
                                         
                                        And if it's middle of the table, it's a case of do we push a little bit extra into it before Christmas
                                         
                                        and see if we can sneak into the playoffs, or do we have to try and give the manager as much support as we can
                                         
                                        so we don't get involved in a relegation battle?
                                         
                                        All of these scenarios will have been discussed for sure.
                                         
                                        Liam Richardson, through the door at the select car leasing stadium, your old mate, Noel Hunt, shown the door, Joby.
                                         
                                        And it's sad, he's a really good guy, he's worked hard under some really difficult circumstances.
                                         
                                        It hasn't clicked for him this season though.
                                         
    
                                        No, it hasn't.
                                         
                                        And I think he'd be the first to admit that
                                         
                                        in terms of a result's point of view.
                                         
                                        I know for a fact, performances have been better than that.
                                         
                                        And listen, that's obviously something that managers and coaches.
                                         
                                        I know Mikkel Ledrick would very, very well as well.
                                         
                                        He's been working alongside him.
                                         
                                        And I know they've been really frustrated, particularly in recent weeks.
                                         
    
                                        And I think the Cardiff game really epitomises,
                                         
                                        I suppose, the start of this season where performance-wise was really, really good.
                                         
                                        just weren't able to take some of the other opportunities that came their way and ended up
                                         
                                        obviously losing a game that they should have got something out of for sure. And I think there's
                                         
                                        been a few other issues in terms of, you know, maybe some of the players that they did bring in
                                         
                                        and they were late in the window. There's no two ways about that with a lot of their recruitment.
                                         
                                        It's taken a little while for certain players to bed in. They've had the injuries to key players
                                         
                                        that, you know, they wanted to get a little bit more out of Paulde O'Connor, for example, to start
                                         
    
                                        the season and his leadership, I know, is something that they really, really value.
                                         
                                        And again, I think there are some factors.
                                         
                                        I think when you are an owner who takes over a club with a manager already in charge,
                                         
                                        there's always that sort of, is he really his man?
                                         
                                        Or is there someone else that he fancies for the job?
                                         
                                        So, yeah, listen, I'm really disappointed for Noel.
                                         
                                        You know, I think people overlook how well they did last season as well as
                                         
                                        when Ruben Sayers left and it would have been very easy for that to sort of go kaput,
                                         
    
                                        but very, very nearly got them into the playoffs.
                                         
                                        That was obviously a big factor in why Rob Kuig did keep him.
                                         
                                        on, I'm sure, and unfortunately
                                         
                                        they weren't able to replicate
                                         
                                        the results that they would have wanted this
                                         
                                        season. But also, you know, you
                                         
                                        come out in preseason say, we're going to get the club back
                                         
                                        to where we want it to be, this is the owner,
                                         
    
                                        and then don't necessarily back the
                                         
                                        manager to that level, in my opinion,
                                         
                                        then, you know, it's obviously going to
                                         
                                        put you in a situation where
                                         
                                        the expectation of the fans, I think,
                                         
                                        is probably higher than
                                         
                                        what Rob Kuig's willing
                                         
                                        to do at the moment from an investment point.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not going to sit here and defend, Rob.
                                         
                                        but I think
                                         
                                        this season for Redding
                                         
                                        is a proper season
                                         
                                        of consolidation.
                                         
                                        They need to start.
                                         
                                        That's not for
                                         
                                        the messaging was at the start
                                         
    
                                        of the season.
                                         
                                        Look, I'm just the driver, Joby.
                                         
                                        I'm telling you, I'm here.
                                         
                                        We get this all the time
                                         
                                        where if owners came out
                                         
                                        and were 100% transparent
                                         
                                        and said exactly that,
                                         
                                        I have got no problem.
                                         
    
                                        I don't think Redding fans
                                         
                                        would have a problem
                                         
                                        given how...
                                         
                                        What did this year?
                                         
                                        Terrible.
                                         
                                        We're going to return the club
                                         
                                        back to its former glory.
                                         
                                        You know,
                                         
    
                                        we've going to have a budget
                                         
                                        that's going to be top end of the league
                                         
                                        all this sort of stuff and that wasn't a reality
                                         
                                        so automatically as a fan
                                         
                                        you're going to be thinking we should be at the top
                                         
                                        end of this table listen they have still
                                         
                                        underperform results rights I'm not
                                         
                                        trying to make that that isn't
                                         
    
                                        an issue but I just think
                                         
                                        those expectation levels were raised
                                         
                                        right at the start of the season
                                         
                                        and he hasn't delivered in my opinion
                                         
                                        to match those expectations
                                         
                                        is Liam Richardson the right
                                         
                                        fit for the football club
                                         
                                        and what's the next move for Noel
                                         
    
                                        I'm a little bit surprised
                                         
                                        because I thought Matt Bloomfield
                                         
                                        will be the obvious candidate
                                         
                                        but again in terms of where he's been operating
                                         
                                        is that a budget Redding can get to now
                                         
                                        is this a job that he wants to walk straight into
                                         
                                        that would probably be the two questions
                                         
                                        as to why it's not him
                                         
    
                                        obviously a relationship that he knows
                                         
                                        Rob Coot extremely well
                                         
                                        knows Joel Jacobson extremely well
                                         
                                        Liam Richardson being out of work
                                         
                                        good pedigree at this level
                                         
                                        in difficult circumstances
                                         
                                        at Wigan last time around
                                         
                                        I think that for me is why it makes sense
                                         
    
                                        because he has been prudent
                                         
                                        before. He clearly has been able to get a team together that wasn't with the biggest
                                         
                                        budget in the league, to go and be incredibly successful at League 1. So I get it. Again,
                                         
                                        will it appease lots of Redding fans at this moment in time? Probably not. But listen,
                                         
                                        I absolutely back him to go in there and get that football club moving in the right
                                         
                                        direction because that's where it deserves to go. Redding taking on Carlisle in the FA Cup,
                                         
                                        that's Liam Richardson's debut as manager, also in the cup. Peterborough's first game. Post-Fergy
                                         
                                        is at home to Cardiff.
                                         
    
                                        Other highlights include this weekend.
                                         
                                        Lyle Taylor's Chelmsford up against Braintree
                                         
                                        in the Essexarby, Bolton-Huddersfield,
                                         
                                        Lois Ragsside, Moulden and Tiptree
                                         
                                        go to Port Vale on Sunday.
                                         
                                        I wonder what that Moulden and Tiptree
                                         
                                        owner is going to be like when he goes and visit
                                         
                                        our mate Carol Shanhan in the boardroom.
                                         
    
                                        Special weekend, isn't it?
                                         
                                        F.A. Cup, first round weekend, Philip.
                                         
                                        F. F.A. Cup, second round weekend for me, is even more special.
                                         
                                        Do you know why? Put my Christmas tree up then.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Every F.
                                         
                                        Can you help me put mine up this year?
                                         
                                        No, Matt, I mean, you've got to chop yours down first.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, the size of your hallway.
                                         
                                        It's more an at at at Atreum in your house, Casa Brown.
                                         
                                        But who you're looking at that sort of weekend,
                                         
                                        the weekend of fixtures, has all changed.
                                         
                                        No league action for some of our EFL clubs,
                                         
                                        or league one and eight two clubs?
                                         
                                        I'm a Peterborough United support, I know.
                                         
                                        I want to see them do well, tell you the truth.
                                         
    
                                        No, I always look at the clubs that I've been involved with,
                                         
                                        you know, the Bolton's of this world.
                                         
                                        you mentioned in playing at home to Huddersfield.
                                         
                                        FAA Cup is just an exciting time.
                                         
                                        Any time of, it comes at this stage of the season
                                         
                                        where you're sort of coming to that third of your campaign in the league
                                         
                                        and you get a chance to just take your mind off the league table
                                         
                                        for one weekend and start dreaming about an FAA Cup run.
                                         
    
                                        And I think it's just a really exciting time.
                                         
                                        People, when they wrote it off the FAA Cup many years back,
                                         
                                        I just didn't know where they were going.
                                         
                                        And I'm so glad that it's got back to where it used to be.
                                         
                                        One that stuck out for me, it's a local team for me, St. Albans.
                                         
                                        They've got to go to Burton.
                                         
                                        And normally it would be a game that, you know, they're going to a league club,
                                         
                                        a really exciting time.
                                         
    
                                        But the manager's just left Ian Colverhouse.
                                         
                                        So again, really strange time in there.
                                         
                                        So again, see how that works out.
                                         
                                        But that's definitely one I'm keeping an eye on us.
                                         
                                        Some of the other standout ties, Spennymore Barrow.
                                         
                                        That'll be tasty when it's Spennymore Barrow.
                                         
                                        Wildstone South End, Brackley-Notts County is the late kickoff.
                                         
                                        Wiggin, Hemel, Hempster,
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, another club just down the road from me, so that would be a really interesting one for them.
                                         
                                        It's a great game for Hemelhams, isn't it?
                                         
                                        Because, again, Wigginsster, nice ground to go to.
                                         
                                        The one we've probably missed out is we touched on it a few weeks ago, I think, but Luton-Forest Green.
                                         
                                        I think with the managers on the touchline, that should be pretty entertaining.
                                         
                                        Obviously, Jack Wilsugar, his first win the other day, which was massive for him.
                                         
                                        And again, I think with Robbie Savage, we all know, there'll be some good value on the touchdown for that.
                                         
                                        By live sport
                                         
    
                                        WSL
                                         
                                        And what a game of football
                                         
                                        It is to kickstart this new WSL season
                                         
                                        And she is able to just pick her sport
                                         
                                        Curls this way past the best goal
                                         
                                        Keep it in the division
                                         
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                                        One club that is flying at the top end of the championship
                                         
                                        Coventry City is Frank Lambert speaking to the BBC
                                         
    
                                        So it's six consecutive league wins
                                         
                                        12 unbeaten just keep it going Frank
                                         
                                        It is and don't get used to it like there's nothing
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
                                        No no no I'm not talking to you I'm just saying
                                         
                                        Maybe it's a good thing
                                         
                                        people will get used to think
                                         
                                        oh why didn't we score three more
                                         
    
                                        in the second half?
                                         
                                        I'm happy with what the boys are doing
                                         
                                        little things in the game
                                         
                                        we can improve for sure
                                         
                                        we can look at and check ourselves
                                         
                                        but you know
                                         
                                        it's not football like this
                                         
                                        over the duration
                                         
    
                                        not a smooth run
                                         
                                        okay 7 1 you know 5 nil
                                         
                                        these things
                                         
                                        you get tested
                                         
                                        boys got tested
                                         
                                        I'm delighted with them
                                         
                                        we're playing well
                                         
                                        we need to continue
                                         
    
                                        because as easy as you can go
                                         
                                        on those sort of runs
                                         
                                        it can be the reverse
                                         
                                        we've got to try and control it
                                         
                                        ourselves, keep going, keep working, stay fresh and I'm happy with a day.
                                         
                                        They're smashing it up, Jobes.
                                         
                                        Oh, incredible start to this season.
                                         
                                        And again, you have to look at sometimes a disappointment of losing out in the
                                         
    
                                        playoffs.
                                         
                                        Again, I've been there.
                                         
                                        It is difficult to get yourself going the next season.
                                         
                                        There can be a little bit of a hangover, but none of that at all.
                                         
                                        They've used it the opposite way, you know, to really spur them on.
                                         
                                        I think they were, would be coming out of that Sunderland semifinal thinking we should have
                                         
                                        got through this.
                                         
                                        And I think that that in a strange way can then give you that extra bit of belief of like, hang on a minute.
                                         
    
                                        And obviously, Frank, the time that he came in, you know, last season, didn't have that preseason to really probably cement some of those principles and the things that he wanted to work on.
                                         
                                        The big things I look at what he's done and, you know, the upturn and the consistency, the lights of Thomas Asante.
                                         
                                        You know, he has been absolutely magnificent this season.
                                         
                                        Had you right, playing him more central, making him a bit more of a, you know, figure point of the team.
                                         
                                        and I just feel that there's been those little tweaks
                                         
                                        that the same players that were there last season
                                         
                                        the first half of the season
                                         
                                        and he just seems to be getting so much more out
                                         
    
                                        and they're just so well balanced
                                         
                                        they're a great team to watch
                                         
                                        score plenty of goals
                                         
                                        they've really tightened up defensively
                                         
                                        from the start of this season
                                         
                                        they are the standout team
                                         
                                        and certainly the team at this stage
                                         
                                        that you look at and go
                                         
    
                                        I can't really see beyond them at this stage
                                         
                                        for going to win the league now
                                         
                                        there will have a bumpy team
                                         
                                        it's guaranteed at some stage
                                         
                                        is how he might
                                         
                                        That's the most important part for me, Aaron.
                                         
                                        For me, Joby, you know, that press conference that he did after the Sun and defeat
                                         
                                        was one of stature.
                                         
    
                                        It was one of, he was standing there and actually saying it's okay, no problem.
                                         
                                        We've been beaten it.
                                         
                                        No, there's a lot of disappointed people around the players are disappointed, etc., etc.
                                         
                                        But he was almost telling them that next season will be better.
                                         
                                        Next season, we will take a further step and maybe automatic promotion, whatever it is.
                                         
                                        Winning a title is a different argument, but I tell you, he's showing us.
                                         
                                        all that stature that I thought Frank Lampard
                                         
                                        was going to have as a manager
                                         
    
                                        of Chelsea when he first started
                                         
                                        out, but he's had a bit of a rocky road
                                         
                                        there's no doubt about it in his
                                         
                                        in the start of his career
                                         
                                        but now all of a sudden he's found a home
                                         
                                        and now all of a sudden you're seeing
                                         
                                        the best of Frank Lamparty, I think it's brilliant
                                         
                                        what they're doing in the Coventry, fantastic.
                                         
    
                                        He looks really well Phil
                                         
                                        I mean he's talked about this fitness regime
                                         
                                        he's been on, the players look
                                         
                                        fit though the way they start games
                                         
                                        lightning quick you know you're going to get
                                         
                                        entertainment they're packing the ground out but as a manager that whole sort of thing about feeling
                                         
                                        good about being happy in an environment winning sort of like breeds that confidence but i mean you've got
                                         
                                        to get sort of fundamentals in before a fundamental basics of fitness levels are enjoying your work
                                         
    
                                        without a shadow of a doubt and it looks like frank's enjoying his work now the reason why you enjoy
                                         
                                        i always go back to when we had success at south end and i was doing planning preparation for a half marathon
                                         
                                        for a marathon
                                         
                                        I was doing a lot of charity work
                                         
                                        I was in the gym every day
                                         
                                        I was on the training ground
                                         
                                        with the players
                                         
                                        and I think some of them players
                                         
    
                                        are coming to be thinking
                                         
                                        Frank Lampard's playing
                                         
                                        alongside me in a five a side
                                         
                                        and they step up to the plate
                                         
                                        I'm not saying he's doing that
                                         
                                        by any stretch of imagination
                                         
                                        but I'll tell you what
                                         
                                        it's very very rare
                                         
    
                                        that you're still capable
                                         
                                        at his age
                                         
                                        he's still capable to go on a training ground
                                         
                                        and showing everybody
                                         
                                        who can still play
                                         
                                        and I think Frank probably does that
                                         
                                        behind closed doors
                                         
                                        he'll probably keep it
                                         
    
                                        to himself
                                         
                                        that he's joining in a little bit of training
                                         
                                        and enjoying it with the lad
                                         
                                        And if the lads get a chance to catch him and kick them because they're not in a team,
                                         
                                        hey ho, that's part and parcel of the game.
                                         
                                        But it really looks a happy club.
                                         
                                        Similar to Sondland, when Sondland are coming out with, we're playing happy football,
                                         
                                        it really looks a happy club.
                                         
    
                                        And by the way, they deserve it, don't they?
                                         
                                        They've been through some horrendous history, covenry, haven't they, in the last few years?
                                         
                                        They've got their ground back.
                                         
                                        They've got a home once again for the first time in, what, 19, 20 years.
                                         
                                        24,000 season ticket holders
                                         
                                        they are proper
                                         
                                        proper law fans and look
                                         
                                        it's a club that's very much on the up
                                         
    
                                        and I just wonder again
                                         
                                        how do they reinforce in January
                                         
                                        how do they take it up a notch in January
                                         
                                        rather than taking their foot off the gas
                                         
                                        also just want to know who's challenging
                                         
                                        with them because we've seen a whole bunch of clubs
                                         
                                        in and around the top echelons
                                         
                                        of the championship
                                         
    
                                        Millwall Joby
                                         
                                        we both said it at the start of the season
                                         
                                        watch out for them they're going to be dangerous
                                         
                                        Middlesbrough in there, yes, we'll talk about them.
                                         
                                        Millwall, Bristol City, Stoke, Charlton.
                                         
                                        No one would have had that as the four for playoffs at the start of the season.
                                         
                                        I know running 12 games in, but still, the table never lies.
                                         
                                        No, not at this stage.
                                         
    
                                        You are where you are for me.
                                         
                                        You know, it's 12 games and I just think it's so refreshing.
                                         
                                        It's just so nice to see some other teams up there.
                                         
                                        And, you know, obviously the teams that came down last year, you know, have struggled,
                                         
                                        Ipswich and Southampton
                                         
                                        obviously Leicester haven't been
                                         
                                        particularly great either
                                         
                                        and again I think it's that
                                         
    
                                        I suppose we talk about the word
                                         
                                        consistency but you know
                                         
                                        Millwall Alex Neal you know
                                         
                                        having that idea of what he wants
                                         
                                        from his team the players understanding it
                                         
                                        being hard to beat again are we now
                                         
                                        in an era where you know I think
                                         
                                        Coventry aside who are pretty open
                                         
    
                                        and expansive when they play
                                         
                                        Middlesborough have been really good defensively
                                         
                                        you know Millwall tough to be
                                         
                                        stoke defensively been really good
                                         
                                        this year, Chalton as well.
                                         
                                        So actually, in terms of these coaches who know how to organise, they can get a group of
                                         
                                        players together that understand what it really takes to just get results on a consistent
                                         
                                        basis.
                                         
    
                                        And I see some of their other teams struggling where they just haven't quite found that
                                         
                                        formula yet.
                                         
                                        So again, for me, Millwall, absolutely outstanding, particularly as their home form at the
                                         
                                        start of this year, it wasn't particularly good.
                                         
                                        But they've obviously turned that around.
                                         
                                        And again, you know, Alex Neal, what a job.
                                         
                                        he's done so far.
                                         
                                        Jones, what you talk about
                                         
    
                                        they're being organised
                                         
                                        and getting the team
                                         
                                        and getting them
                                         
                                        set up in a certain way
                                         
                                        so they're tough to be.
                                         
                                        We have to give
                                         
                                        huge credit to Alex Neal.
                                         
                                        He's never had a fit squad.
                                         
    
                                        If he hasn't had problems
                                         
                                        with the goalkeeper, it's the midfield now.
                                         
                                        He's lost Massimo Luongo,
                                         
                                        who they brought in
                                         
                                        to a place the likes of George Saville
                                         
                                        and George Honeyman in the midfield.
                                         
                                        In the summer, a bit of experience,
                                         
                                        great character.
                                         
    
                                        Mass has done with an ACL injury.
                                         
                                        So then they're looking at someone
                                         
                                        like a Billy Mitchell
                                         
                                        who's struggling.
                                         
                                        with injury. Casper Dunor
                                         
                                        is playing every game. They're lighting
                                         
                                        numbers in central midfield and it's
                                         
                                        causing them problems but yet again
                                         
    
                                        they look solid.
                                         
                                        Jake Cooper looks back
                                         
                                        to his best as well. Tristan Kramer's a good
                                         
                                        partner for him. Ryan Leonard
                                         
                                        is rolling back the years at right back.
                                         
                                        This is a middle wall side that could do bits
                                         
                                        they really could do bits
                                         
                                        and I mean man can you imagine
                                         
    
                                        them in the Premier League Philip?
                                         
                                        I'd love to say it. I really
                                         
                                        would. I'm a
                                         
                                        closet Millwall fan I think the history of the club
                                         
                                        etc etc but when you've been talking about
                                         
                                        Alex Neal there soon as
                                         
                                        as you went in there I thought straight away
                                         
                                        knowing him as a person knowing him as a manager
                                         
    
                                        coming up against them knowing what his
                                         
                                        teams are like when he sets them up
                                         
                                        I think that's a good fit I really do
                                         
                                        and the one word that we don't talk
                                         
                                        about too often where managers are concerned
                                         
                                        is substance and I think this guy
                                         
                                        is absolutely he uses
                                         
                                        substance and if anybody needs
                                         
    
                                        substance in their team Millwall
                                         
                                        do because the fans demand it you know
                                         
                                        So when you've got that nice fit,
                                         
                                        it's almost like a hand-and-glove-type situation
                                         
                                        as far as I'm concerned.
                                         
                                        Alex Neal is perfect for Millwall.
                                         
                                        Millwall fans are loving the fact
                                         
                                        the way they play the football,
                                         
    
                                        and now the third top in a championship
                                         
                                        that could go anywhere.
                                         
                                        Honestly, the second half of the season
                                         
                                        in the championship could go anywhere.
                                         
                                        Coventry could win it out of Seith
                                         
                                        and they could miss out in the playoffs.
                                         
                                        It's one of them kind of divisions for me.
                                         
                                        I'd have to throw Bristol City
                                         
    
                                        that we didn't touch too much again.
                                         
                                        Gerhard Struber coming in there,
                                         
                                        you know, particularly off the back,
                                         
                                        of the team, massively overachieving last year
                                         
                                        and getting in the playoffs. That was a tough assignment
                                         
                                        and he's come in and
                                         
                                        the energy, I think the way that
                                         
                                        they play, they get on the front foot. You look at
                                         
    
                                        a few of the results, they've got recently turned over
                                         
                                        Southampton, beat Birmingham City
                                         
                                        who, of course, a lot of people
                                         
                                        fancied this season. But I just think
                                         
                                        squad depth is going to come into
                                         
                                        things a little bit later on. I think this
                                         
                                        start of the season, we talk about it.
                                         
                                        You know, the international breaks, the ability
                                         
    
                                        to sort of rest and recuperate,
                                         
                                        get bodies back if you had an
                                         
                                        when you get past the next international break it is now right open up time you know the
                                         
                                        saturdays the Tuesdays cup competitions come into it and it will test the squads but yeah i just think
                                         
                                        it's been it's been so nice to see a bit of variation and what those teams at the top are doing
                                         
                                        they're just giving themselves a massive opportunity later on because that difference they're
                                         
                                        accumulating in points versus the teams that we expected to be up there the southamptons the
                                         
                                        it's switch towns it's a lot of ground for them to make up you know everyone's
                                         
    
                                        expecting them to get going. It can be done. Again, I think that's where those bigger
                                         
                                        squads then come into their own later on in the season where people do pick up injuries. You've
                                         
                                        mentioned Millwall dealing with it so far. I think they're as strong as they have been for
                                         
                                        a long time squad-wise and the depth that they've got, which I think's been helping them plug some
                                         
                                        of those gaps that they haven't been able to in recent years. You know, you look at Chalton.
                                         
                                        I mean, whole city, I had them to get relegated this season. Yeah. And again, the job that
                                         
                                        the manager's done and some smart recruitment
                                         
                                        I think that's the other big thing when you look at a lot
                                         
    
                                        of these clubs they've bought players who
                                         
                                        understand the level they know the demands
                                         
                                        they can play Saturday, Tuesday
                                         
                                        and churn out games you know
                                         
                                        so again for me
                                         
                                        it isn't rocket science I think we're
                                         
                                        coming back to a little bit of a sense of
                                         
                                        actually what does work in the championship
                                         
    
                                        and throughout the EFL
                                         
                                        what can get us a bit of success and I think
                                         
                                        that's why those teams are doing what they are
                                         
                                        do you not have any owners or chief execs
                                         
                                        or that's a football messaging you go and charge
                                         
                                        Joby, what about this? What do you reckon?
                                         
                                        What player-wise? Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get people at football clubs.
                                         
    
                                        Again, I think when it's people that you know
                                         
                                        and they trust your opinion,
                                         
                                        obviously we watch an awful lot of football.
                                         
                                        Jobs, there's the honour talking again. He's talking to you as a
                                         
                                        Chief's going on.
                                         
                                        Well, then it's the problem with that is, Phil. If I get one wrong,
                                         
                                        mate, then he can come and blame me afterwards.
                                         
                                        Let's flip the table over. Sheffield Wednesday, bottom of the league.
                                         
    
                                        Chaps, very quickly, how good has it been
                                         
                                        to see, you know, those fans,
                                         
                                        returning. The administrator
                                         
                                        turns out has been a season ticket
                                         
                                        older for best part of 40 years.
                                         
                                        He really cares about the football club.
                                         
                                        Interesting to see the way that things were done
                                         
                                        the moment the club was put into administration,
                                         
    
                                        the seats start to be
                                         
                                        changed. At Hillsborough, you see
                                         
                                        a lot of the remnants of
                                         
                                        the Dave von Chancy era
                                         
                                        disappearing. They're not
                                         
                                        out of the woods yet. I wonder
                                         
                                        how January
                                         
                                        you know, sort of like works with them
                                         
    
                                        and player sales with the administrative.
                                         
                                        It's being like, right, well, you know, we've got to sell some of the assets here.
                                         
                                        We know we're going down, but we need to keep funding the club.
                                         
                                        Or do you reckon a deal can get done before then?
                                         
                                        Is there a possibility, Joey?
                                         
                                        Listen, I think there's going to be a huge demand from potential owners.
                                         
                                        It's a brilliant football.
                                         
                                        You've only seen that this week.
                                         
    
                                        You know, in both stages, I think with the fans with the protest originally by not going,
                                         
                                        and by all accounts, that's probably accelerated Chancery's decision to put the club into administration
                                         
                                        because he realized very, very quickly
                                         
                                        that they won't be getting that little bit of funding.
                                         
                                        I say a little bit when you look at what the Shepa Wednesday fans have spent.
                                         
                                        It's been incredible in such a short space of time.
                                         
                                        So it is a significant amount.
                                         
                                        And he clearly felt that that won't be coming in to the club.
                                         
    
                                        So that end point for him was probably a lot sooner than he expected.
                                         
                                        And I think because of that fan demand and the support,
                                         
                                        listen, there's going to be a lot of people out there that want to take over this football club.
                                         
                                        I think because they've been so responsive and they've come out and filled the stadium and bought merchandise,
                                         
                                        I think from an administration point of view, that just keeps them going again in a,
                                         
                                        I wouldn't ever say healthy, they're in administration, but being able to just keep on day-to-day for a little while.
                                         
                                        And yeah, I think it could be hopefully something that happens sooner rather than later,
                                         
                                        and then maybe they're able to keep, as you say, some of those assets.
                                         
    
                                        But I think this is a longer-term thing now.
                                         
                                        Obviously, this season's pretty much done.
                                         
                                        it's about a reset getting someone in that can come and really get the club to kick on and start again fresh hopefully if they can get it done this season by the time next season rolls around they're in a good position to really kick on in league one let's push into league one it feels like the stewards have been the ones grabbing all the attention you still the late in orient steward wearing the white boots
                                         
                                        um yeah a load of chance being directed at him from the late in orient faithful i'll tell you what jokes about six or seven months ago i did a game at burn
                                         
                                        in the championship
                                         
                                        but I put up a tweet
                                         
                                        where I said
                                         
                                        I'd never seen stewards
                                         
    
                                        doing sprints before a game
                                         
                                        but from what I understand
                                         
                                        this is a bit of a new trend
                                         
                                        the boots on you
                                         
                                        Stuart's wearing studs
                                         
                                        because it gives them more traction
                                         
                                        on the ground
                                         
                                        just in case anyone tries to run
                                         
    
                                        on the pitch
                                         
                                        is that what it is
                                         
                                        are they the designated
                                         
                                        pitch invader
                                         
                                        stewards
                                         
                                        yeah you got you do sprints
                                         
                                        I mean it's on social media
                                         
                                        I think it's a big lad
                                         
    
                                        pin tweet
                                         
                                        oh well units
                                         
                                        There's some absolute unit.
                                         
                                        He was a unit. I would not be trying to pitch invade with him there.
                                         
                                        I've got to say one, because the boots were looking lively.
                                         
                                        They weren't just a pair of black referee or coach's boots either.
                                         
                                        They're bright white, weren't they?
                                         
                                        So he obviously fancies himself as a bit of a player.
                                         
    
                                        And when you're in white boots, I used to wear them because they just make you look that little yard quicker.
                                         
                                        So in terms of the intimidation for the fans.
                                         
                                        You look a better player, that's for sure.
                                         
                                        I don't know how quick.
                                         
                                        You don't look a better player.
                                         
                                        You had to tell myself, it made myself quicker towards the end feel.
                                         
                                        you need that extra yard or two
                                         
                                        because everyone's writing you off
                                         
    
                                        so now a fair play to him
                                         
                                        and he took it really well didn't he
                                         
                                        I mean the fans
                                         
                                        really really getting into him
                                         
                                        and he took it well
                                         
                                        got a little bit of a gesture at the end
                                         
                                        and a wave so yeah good day all round
                                         
                                        was it the Plymouth Stewart
                                         
    
                                        brilliant
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        dancing he was done oh my word
                                         
                                        I was in absolute fits of laughter
                                         
                                        it's brilliant it's nothing short of brilliant
                                         
                                        I tell you what if they're part of the entertainment
                                         
                                        I'm good for that
                                         
                                        never mean the football
                                         
    
                                        just here we see the stewards dancing and running around the fish like lunatic.
                                         
                                        I think that's what we could be missing.
                                         
                                        We need to maybe bring that in.
                                         
                                        You know, we see a lot of cheerleading, don't we, in NFL and NBA?
                                         
                                        So maybe we can get a cheerleader, stroke, steward, do a bit of break dancing.
                                         
                                        Just need a bit of background music.
                                         
                                        And again, it's probably showing my age a little bit, but I grew up watching a film called breakdance,
                                         
                                        turbo and ozone.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know if there's anyone out there, any listeners, if you are, give me a shout.
                                         
                                        But growing up in the 80s, and it was just all about it was a big break dance scene.
                                         
                                        That was the steward that you're talking about there, Phil.
                                         
                                        I can just imagine that of a little bit of background music,
                                         
                                        a little bit of a magic.
                                         
                                        They're already for it, on it?
                                         
                                        High viz.
                                         
                                        They're ready, man, you know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                        So, yeah, well played all the stewards out there,
                                         
                                        doing a great job.
                                         
                                        Jopes, I've sent you the video from when I was at Burnley,
                                         
                                        ahead of their game against Sheffield Wednesday.
                                         
                                        What was that?
                                         
                                        Back in February, stewards didn't sprint down the touchline
                                         
                                        with some, like, proper dance music going on the background.
                                         
                                        Can we see it?
                                         
    
                                        Mate, he's got his big jacket on and everything.
                                         
                                        How's he running with that?
                                         
                                        He's head down like a, just like,
                                         
                                        just go for it.
                                         
                                        He's head down running like Jed Wallace.
                                         
                                        Have you seen how Jed Wallace spritz when he comes onto a pitch?
                                         
                                        You can predict it.
                                         
                                        I love you, Jed, by the way.
                                         
    
                                        Are they getting paid enough for that as for Stewart?
                                         
                                        I mean, come on.
                                         
                                        When Jed Wallace subbed on, yeah,
                                         
                                        his aim is to become as aerodynamic as possible.
                                         
                                        So he'll get subbed on.
                                         
                                        He'll get his head down.
                                         
                                        He'll do this sprint and then he'll just go left and right
                                         
                                        and sort of swer around.
                                         
    
                                        That's what they were doing.
                                         
                                        They took it right out the Wallace playbook.
                                         
                                        Yeah, look to.
                                         
                                        as though he was trying to break a world record there.
                                         
                                        I've got to say, and it's almost like a reel,
                                         
                                        and one goes up, he comes back down,
                                         
                                        and then he has one sets off, and I'm like,
                                         
                                        is that an extra qualification you need
                                         
    
                                        or attribute you need to be a steward these days?
                                         
                                        You've got to do 10 second 100 metres as well.
                                         
                                        Sprint.
                                         
                                        I enjoy, there's some grounds you go to
                                         
                                        where the stewards are of an older generation.
                                         
                                        And it's really quite enjoyable to go there
                                         
                                        because bless them, like they're really,
                                         
                                        slam the bag searches and they're lovely I mean there's some grounds they'll bring like a little
                                         
    
                                        word as original maybe a muddy mint or something like that just to give to you you know when you're
                                         
                                        going into a ground it's it's all it's all very nice and polite they're great they'll make a little
                                         
                                        joke with you as getting on the door yeah it's it's it's it's fun it's calm just to make the idea
                                         
                                        just in case the football's not too clever no one likes a jobsworth steward let me tell you that
                                         
                                        oh well i got one of them once mate where was it i was up the road somewhere it might even a
                                         
                                        in Burnley actually and I've been on the road no word of a lie it's a Friday night game and
                                         
                                        I'm in the car left my house about I don't know 12 o'clock so we've got to be there say we go
                                         
                                        an air at seven so we'd always aim to get there sort of half five you know about an hour for
                                         
    
                                        rehearsal six o'clock so we're getting up as we're going up just traffic everywhere like
                                         
                                        m1 gridlocked get past that then the m6 oh my gosh not moving and your ETA starts changing as you're
                                         
                                        going up so the panic starts setting in this is obviously a live show
                                         
                                        show all of a sudden it goes from like getting there at six which will give me an hour to
                                         
                                        630, 645 then I'm really panicking bear in mind I've been in the car for a very very long time
                                         
                                        so finally get up there and I kid you not it was about five to seven and I've got changed in the
                                         
                                        car everything throwing everything on pure panic stations get to the gate and have to go and
                                         
                                        see the stewards that let you into the ground and oh have you got your security if you got your
                                         
    
                                        identification. I'm like
                                         
                                        listen, I'm on air in
                                         
                                        five minutes and I don't normally do this
                                         
                                        but you know, you're like, look, I've worked with TV
                                         
                                        I've seen him angry by the way. I've seen him
                                         
                                        annoyed. I'm on in five.
                                         
                                        I'm on in five. Would not let me get
                                         
                                        through mate and I'm at there she's rooting through my
                                         
    
                                        bag. I'm going to have to get sent off to get my
                                         
                                        great John Lewis customer who's been
                                         
                                        given green olives rather than black
                                         
                                        ones. And then yeah,
                                         
                                        finally, finally make it. But I'm
                                         
                                        talking 20 seconds before about
                                         
                                        to get on air, finally get everything on
                                         
                                        and massive panic up.
                                         
    
                                        So if you are listening
                                         
                                        and you are that steward,
                                         
                                        next time, please just let me in it.
                                         
                                        No, the worst is,
                                         
                                        look, the worst is,
                                         
                                        and I know they've got to do their jobs
                                         
                                        and they are, you know,
                                         
                                        they're paid to do their jobs
                                         
    
                                        and they're paid to keep us safe
                                         
                                        and look, we love it and thank you,
                                         
                                        and it's great.
                                         
                                        The worst one is, though,
                                         
                                        when you walk to the press entrance
                                         
                                        and they go,
                                         
                                        have you got your accreditation?
                                         
                                        And I'm like,
                                         
    
                                        I'm trying to get it from behind you.
                                         
                                        You know, like the area behind you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but I need to see your past,
                                         
                                        your accreditation.
                                         
                                        It's there
                                         
                                        See over there
                                         
                                        I'm getting past you to get it
                                         
                                        Really bad
                                         
    
                                        Really bad
                                         
                                        I don't know how we got on to that
                                         
                                        Your face is your accreditation now Aaron
                                         
                                        Come on you should be able to walk in any ground in the country
                                         
                                        Are you joking
                                         
                                        Have you done that before as do you know who I am
                                         
                                        No no no no no
                                         
                                        No no
                                         
    
                                        Sometimes because I see my name starts with A
                                         
                                        And not just say it's AA
                                         
                                        I'm top of the list
                                         
                                        And they're going
                                         
                                        Oh where
                                         
                                        The best ones are you I can't see
                                         
                                        I'm there
                                         
                                        You know, when you just point it, it's there.
                                         
    
                                        The worst, however, there's a club in the EFO.
                                         
                                        Now, I've got, you know, you know we have our kits that we take with us.
                                         
                                        The handle of my kit has all my security tags on them.
                                         
                                        Every security tag from the past few seasons.
                                         
                                        There are hundreds of these security tags.
                                         
                                        It looks disgusting.
                                         
                                        Imagine just like, you know, a really bad looking lunchbox with these paper tags around it.
                                         
                                        One club made me cut them all off.
                                         
    
                                        and I nearly cried
                                         
                                        and I'll just turn around and I go
                                         
                                        if it's all right for the people who've got
                                         
                                        a Glastonbury to keep them around their wrist
                                         
                                        what's wrong with me keeping them there
                                         
                                        no sir it breaches our security regulations
                                         
                                        anyway
                                         
                                        rant over for this week
                                         
    
                                        let's look at Ultimate All Time EFL
                                         
                                        11 for this week's suggestions
                                         
                                        we're going to go to a message
                                         
                                        from Stephen in Sheffield
                                         
                                        I have two suggestions for the Ultimate
                                         
                                        EF11
                                         
                                        Billy Sharp up front and
                                         
                                        Michael Brown in midfield
                                         
    
                                        now we made an alteration to our
                                         
                                        midfield last week.
                                         
                                        Jones, bringing in
                                         
                                        Wes Houlehann.
                                         
                                        Where does Brownie fit in
                                         
                                        though?
                                         
                                        The Brown dog?
                                         
                                        Oh, and now, again,
                                         
    
                                        another really good shout,
                                         
                                        isn't he?
                                         
                                        Michael Brown.
                                         
                                        Massive EFL pedigree
                                         
                                        very much.
                                         
                                        Again, I think he's an upgrade
                                         
                                        on an Ian Ashby.
                                         
                                        I know Phil's not going to want
                                         
    
                                        to hear that, but in terms
                                         
                                        of, you know,
                                         
                                        someone who will carry out your orders,
                                         
                                        very much your manager on the pitch,
                                         
                                        leader, get his foot
                                         
                                        stuck in very, very much.
                                         
                                        I've been on receiving end
                                         
                                        of a good few Michael Brown
                                         
    
                                        tackles.
                                         
                                        specifically sent out by Neil Warnock
                                         
                                        to absolutely smash me.
                                         
                                        See, I think he's a good shout, I've got to say.
                                         
                                        Does he dislodge any of that three?
                                         
                                        Not for me, Phil, I'm not sure.
                                         
                                        What do you think?
                                         
                                        I'm just looking at you two years,
                                         
    
                                        and obviously I've not been on the show
                                         
                                        for a couple of weeks, and what is going on?
                                         
                                        How did he in Ashby get usurped?
                                         
                                        How did he get ousted?
                                         
                                        How did he get pushed out of the team?
                                         
                                        Now, come on, you know,
                                         
                                        you've...
                                         
                                        What happens when you leave us?
                                         
    
                                        The second division, the first division,
                                         
                                        the championship,
                                         
                                        And then the Premier League, he's an AFA,
                                         
                                        absolute EFL legend.
                                         
                                        This number of votes, Phil.
                                         
                                        We put it out to the public, and unfortunately, you know,
                                         
                                        we got a few more votes for him.
                                         
                                        Stop lying, Davey.
                                         
    
                                        No, I'm just telling him, Phil's been away for a few weeks.
                                         
                                        But this is what happens when you leave us, Phil.
                                         
                                        Your power starts to wane a little bit.
                                         
                                        And it lets me get into other people.
                                         
                                        We talked about four weeks, five weeks ago.
                                         
                                        We said no then.
                                         
                                        Now he's creeping back in him, come on.
                                         
                                        No, you're not having that, no.
                                         
    
                                        Sharpie.
                                         
                                        or Mitrovich, who are you going for?
                                         
                                        Oh, Mitrovich, yep.
                                         
                                        All day long.
                                         
                                        And then you're talking about legends now.
                                         
                                        You're talking about legends.
                                         
                                        Hold on, hold on.
                                         
                                        No, I recycle that one.
                                         
    
                                        I'll go Sharp.
                                         
                                        Oh, here we go.
                                         
                                        I'll recycle that.
                                         
                                        I'll go Sharp.
                                         
                                        I'm going to go Billy Sharp as well
                                         
                                        because I think we're going to get round
                                         
                                        to a all-time,
                                         
                                        not one season wonder,
                                         
    
                                        but Mitcherich would get in
                                         
                                        for the time he scored about.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Correct.
                                         
                                        The one season won.
                                         
                                        Billy Sharp, 20 years, man.
                                         
                                        So are we replacing Mitro and the 11th?
                                         
                                        I think we are, mate.
                                         
    
                                        Didn't expect that.
                                         
                                        Billy Sharp goes in, in place of Alexander Mitrovich.
                                         
                                        Send us your suggestions for our EFL Ultimate 11.
                                         
                                        A message, you can message us or voice not us on WhatsApp.
                                         
                                        08,000, 289, 369.
                                         
                                        I don't know you're saying Michael Brown's replacing Ian Ashby, come on.
                                         
                                        That's not the case, is it?
                                         
                                        No, where's Hulahann replaced him last week?
                                         
    
                                        Where's Hulahann?
                                         
                                        Ian Ashby's been replaced on the bench as well now.
                                         
                                        He's on the other day in Judy.
                                         
                                        No way, no way.
                                         
                                        You're going to have to tell him as.
                                         
                                        Well, Phil.
                                         
                                        Imagine that conversation.
                                         
                                        You've got to tell him that he's not on the bench, mate.
                                         
    
                                        Brown and phone him.
                                         
                                        08,000, 289, 369 message or voice note us on WhatsApp
                                         
                                        with your suggestions for our Ultimate 11.
                                         
                                        Or if you've got a job for Jobi, just give us a shout.
                                         
                                        He loves a job.
                                         
                                        Let's finish with this.
                                         
                                        72 plus, 72 minus on the football daily.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's time for Job's best and worst moments of the week.
                                         
    
                                        across the EFL overture, sir?
                                         
                                        Right, I'm going to kick off with my 72 minus this week,
                                         
                                        and it's from Cheltenham versus Walsall in League 2.
                                         
                                        It was nil-nil, going into second half stoppage time.
                                         
                                        And Walsall's Aden Flint, another EFL, absolute legend and veteran,
                                         
                                        with one of the unluckiest own goals you will ever see.
                                         
                                        The ball gets smashed at him by his own player,
                                         
                                        about three yards away from him.
                                         
    
                                        It deflects up off onto the post and then finds itself into the back.
                                         
                                        of the net for a 92nd minute Cheltenham winner. Let's have it.
                                         
                                        Can you get there before Flink can? Yes, you can into the penalty. Great run by Biggerstaff.
                                         
                                        Pursable back for Taylor, blocked almost on the line and then very nearly no goal in it.
                                         
                                        It's gone in. Cholm has scored. Bickerstaff going to claim it. It's ricocheted in.
                                         
                                        It might have gone in off of Walsall playing. Might have gone in off of Bickerstaff. Who cares?
                                         
                                        It's Cheltenham won Worsall. Bickerstaff's a great surname, isn't it?
                                         
                                        Brilliant.
                                         
    
                                        Brilliant comms as well.
                                         
                                        Joby, you're 702 plus for this week.
                                         
                                        And that comes from Crew versus Grimsby Town.
                                         
                                        And again, heading into the final few minutes.
                                         
                                        Crews, Emery Tesgal, on loan from Stoke.
                                         
                                        He already had two goals.
                                         
                                        Crew pushing for a late winner.
                                         
                                        This is what happened next.
                                         
    
                                        Getting to nitty gritty time.
                                         
                                        Now, Holacek, back to Sanders, into the Palli, whipped in.
                                         
                                        Oh, goal!
                                         
                                        Emory Tesgall!
                                         
                                        Fires in a powerful header.
                                         
                                        Great ball from Sanders.
                                         
                                        Atrickman, Tescoe.
                                         
                                        Is it three points for crew?
                                         
    
                                        I can tell you what?
                                         
                                        It's eight for the season for Embrate Teskell.
                                         
                                        And the home fans are going wild.
                                         
                                        Crew three, Grisbee two, stand up, Tescoll.
                                         
                                        Can I shout out the commentator on that?
                                         
                                        I love that.
                                         
                                        Proper giving it beans.
                                         
                                        You know how I said Joby loves a job or a gig?
                                         
    
                                        He read my line there.
                                         
                                        I told you, Phil.
                                         
                                        I've delivered it well, though, didn't I?
                                         
                                        It's quite good. I'm getting better at these.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        Sadly, no, Emery Tesgel in our fantasy NFL teams.
                                         
                                        Joby won Canobi is up to 42nd.
                                         
                                        Motor in.
                                         
    
                                        Lincoln's rearguard of Sonny Bradley and George Wiccings
                                         
                                        doing the heavy lifting with their clean shit
                                         
                                        in the gold of straw at Bradford.
                                         
                                        I have now clambered outside of the bottom ten, Job's really pleased with that.
                                         
                                        Right, so I was going to work this out.
                                         
                                        So I'm going to give myself a nip switch.
                                         
                                        I've had a slow start, but I back myself to come through the pack
                                         
                                        and get myself up towards the top end of that table
                                         
    
                                        when I'll get myself together
                                         
                                        who are you then
                                         
                                        are you saints maybe
                                         
                                        Shepard United
                                         
                                        but you're out
                                         
                                        you're still out
                                         
                                        you just
                                         
                                        oh yeah
                                         
    
                                        I'll be alright
                                         
                                        don't worry about that
                                         
                                        Jack Rodoney is still doing his bit
                                         
                                        on the sidelines
                                         
                                        but you know
                                         
                                        he's just key for us
                                         
                                        Amara Cozy Jubri
                                         
                                        back in the last grass
                                         
    
                                        oh what a strike that was
                                         
                                        mate keep him in
                                         
                                        keep him in the side
                                         
                                        and look
                                         
                                        Loves the last minute
                                         
                                        Rudy
                                         
                                        Rudy he's on ice
                                         
                                        he's on ice he'll be back soon
                                         
    
                                        shout out to Shirmat Bulldogs
                                         
                                        top of the league
                                         
                                        and also the highest
                                         
                                        score of the game week.
                                         
                                        The only team to break the 100-point barrier.
                                         
                                        Middlesbrough's Hayden Hackney, one of his key men.
                                         
                                        Our 72-plus league code is Joby, 72 EFL pod.
                                         
                                        Next week, you could rob that line off me.
                                         
    
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        One job, and one job as.
                                         
                                        One job.
                                         
                                        It said Aaron.
                                         
                                        It had Aaron and then the line, and you still nicked it.
                                         
                                        Sorry, our 72-plus league code is 72-EFL pod.
                                         
                                        7-2-E-F-L.
                                         
                                        Pod, thank you very much, Joby, for that.
                                         
    
                                        Philip, where are you this weekend?
                                         
                                        We are at home to Chorley, Andy Preece's mob.
                                         
                                        So it's going to be a battle of six-yard boxes.
                                         
                                        It's all about set pieces with Andy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you're going to take a little something to offer him after the game?
                                         
                                        I'll take him a little drop of the cognac that we were talking about early on.
                                         
                                        I've just bought a bottle of it, and it's staring at me now.
                                         
                                        I might have a little nip while I get warm this afternoon.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I was going to say I'm on sort of the brink of a cold.
                                         
                                        Jobi, can you recommend anything?
                                         
                                        I can, actually. I've got the perfect winter remedy.
                                         
                                        So get some ginger, chop it all up, stick it in a nice bit of boiling water, bring it to the boil,
                                         
                                        make sure you really let it simmer, get that flavour and the goodness in there.
                                         
                                        Tip that out into a cup, bit of honey, bit of lemon, bosh.
                                         
                                        You are sorted, mate.
                                         
                                        And Phil, you're adding cognate.
                                         
    
                                        Very good.
                                         
                                        Jobby, where are you this weekend?
                                         
                                        I am a bit of Carabow Cup actually this evening
                                         
                                        Newcastle Spurs the main game and then we'll keep it across some of the others
                                         
                                        but also Swansea City flying the flag for the EFL team
                                         
                                        so hopefully they can pull off something miraculous against Manchester City
                                         
                                        and then back in the studio on Saturday for Leicester's game
                                         
                                        which again is a big one now isn't it so yeah looking forward to that
                                         
    
                                        I'm off to Oxford versus Mill hey Phil I could have popped round for dinner at yours after day
                                         
                                        You could have.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        I'd have the biryani on the hot.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        You're not going to be there.
                                         
                                        Thank you, guys, for your hospitality.
                                         
                                        And thank you to you for listening.
                                         
    
                                        Remember to send us your all-time ultimate EFL 11 suggestions.
                                         
                                        WhatsApp 08,289-369.
                                         
                                        If you've got a gig for Jobi, we'll have it on there as well.
                                         
                                        That is it for this episode of the Football Daily.
                                         
                                        The 72 plus EFL pod.
                                         
                                        We'll be back next week.
                                         
                                        We'll catch you there.
                                         
                                        Go to the end zone, touchdown.
                                         
    
                                        NFL.
                                         
                                        Touchdown.
                                         
                                        Philadelphia.
                                         
                                        Great play design.
                                         
                                        I think you just have to go out there and be the best that you can be.
                                         
                                        We're going to go out there and lay it all in the line.
                                         
                                        A 12-yard touchdown run.
                                         
                                        105 yards on the return.
                                         
    
                                        Where speed, power, and skill collide.
                                         
                                        And the Eagles are beating the chiefs convincingly in Super Bowl 59.
                                         
                                        Five lives for NFL.
                                         
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                                        On BBC.
                                         
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