Football Daily - 72+ EFL Pod: Williams to Posh & Reading get Richardson

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Aaron Paul, Jobi McAnuff & Phil Brown talk Peterborough appointing Luke Williams. Also Reading swap Noel Hunt for Leam Richardson. Hear from Frank Lampard with Coventry City flying in the Champion...ship. And will Billy Sharp & Michael Brown make our 72+ Ultimate All-Time EFL XI? Send your suggestions to us on WhatsApp to 08000 289 369.03:40 ‘Fergie time’ is up at Peterborough United 07:50 Grease up the managerial merry-go-round 10:40 Leam Richardson replaces Noel Hunt at Reading 14:45 FA Cup first round games to watch 18:00 Coventry City flying 29:05 Sheff Wed fans rally around the club 31:20 Stewards get attention in League One 35:30 Jobi’s ‘jobsworth’ steward 38:45 Billy Sharp & Michael Brown for our Ultimate EFL XI? 41:50 Late winners in 72PLUS 72MINUS5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Wed 1945 Liverpool v Crystal Palace in EFL Cup, Sat 1500 Nottingham Forest v Man Utd, Sat 1500 Burnley v Arsenal on Sports Extra, Sat 1730 Tottenham v Chelsea, Sun 1400 West Ham v Newcastle, Sun 1630 Man City v Bournemouth.

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Starting point is 00:00:49 Oh, it is Joe McEnough. Hello, mate. You're okay? Yeah, very well, thank you. Nice to hear you, as I always do, because you're always working, but it was out and about. Yeah, true. We've got to keep business. mate, isn't we? So yeah, I was out and about
Starting point is 00:01:02 a bit of commentary co-coms 4 or 5 live the other day over at Arsenal with my old team Crystal Palace who were brilliant by the way, they were really really unlucky, played well first half but 1-0 to the Arsenal. Where have we heard that before, right? Yeah, absolutely. The Sammy Lee to my Sam
Starting point is 00:01:17 Aladais, little Sam and big Sam Mark two. You heard me now, you heard me with that one. Oh, there he is the new Peterborough boss, Phil Brown. That's Peterborough Sport by the way, not Peterborough United I'm just thinking about your combination with Jobi there, so that's managing, assistant manager. Where does that put me on the show? Because I come on
Starting point is 00:01:34 quite regular. Is it sort of an interim coach? Do I'm trying to say you want to be the gaffer? Absolutely. I'm arguing that all the way through. You're not going to like what we've done with your ultimate 11, because your main man's gone, pal. Anyway. Oh no. Yeah. How's life in National League North?
Starting point is 00:01:50 I'm really, really enjoying it. I know managers always say that, but it really is a it's an unbelievable challenge. You're just talking to Jobie before we came on here. And it's almost a different sport, Aaron, at this level. And what I mean by a different sport, it's part-time footballers, players that are coming from a day's work
Starting point is 00:02:07 and then trying to fulfill what they can do on a football pitch for 90 minutes. And it's got me thinking in so many different ways. And you've only got them a couple of days a week training, but the challenge to get a tune out of a player that's been grafted in probably 50, 60 hours a week, it's a different challenge. And the football at this level,
Starting point is 00:02:27 I'm telling you, it's off the map. People are trying to play, people are trying to pass the ball, like a man's city, like, you know, some of the top teams. And they're just trying to emulate one of the good coaches are doing. So I'm really, really enjoying it. More importantly, Philip, what I want to know is, look, you're a man who enjoys the finer things in life. You always carry a nice bottle of something in the boot just in case. You've often got a neckerchief on. You look good.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You feel good. You smell good. When you go to these opposition grounds, when you go to Kurson-Ashton, when you go to Southport, is there hospitality extended, maybe? the manager's office are you offered a glass or something maybe a smoke salmon sandwich someone along the way? It doesn't happen at this level
Starting point is 00:03:07 and I'm really disappointed that it doesn't because it's open in my neck of the woods you come to Peterer you're getting a glass of wine before June and after the game and that'll be my chairman looking after you the hospitality at our football club is brilliant but I want to extend that to the managers
Starting point is 00:03:21 and I want it to be the norm and it's not far from it It's time for you to become a trendsetter I think I think you should be out there you should be encouraging a positive environment amongst managers in and around the non-leagues. Beautiful. Are you guys a Peterborough sport looking over at the event south of the River Neen,
Starting point is 00:03:43 Peterbury United thinking, God, what a shambles over there. We take them on tomorrow, we beat him. Well, let me run by you what I know. First and foremost, obviously, Sir Alex Ferguson's son I followed into Preston North End, and it was a bumpy ride straight away because he's following in a legend's son and he's had a great career there's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:04:04 He's fourth time he's the manager of Peterbury United and we've been across there we've got a relationship I've got a couple of players in my team that actually coached at the academy and coached Peterbury United so the relationships there my chairman is a Peterbury United supporter
Starting point is 00:04:17 but he just wanted to do his own thing and that's the reason why he bought Peterborough Sports and I'm finding out about all these things and obviously we know about the legends that have played for them the chairman and the owner of the club it's a great football club is no doubt about it it's had some fantastic
Starting point is 00:04:33 history as a club but at this moment it's time suffering and they've just changed management and I think it wouldn't take too much to get it back on track I think if they've changed manager so early they're looking to make sure that they're safe in the First Division this season
Starting point is 00:04:52 and then they'll carry on from that some week isn't it? Yeah I've got to say our group chat was fairly lively wasn't it after the weekend's results and performances and I certainly feel there's a few teetering on the edge
Starting point is 00:05:06 listen I'm an advocate of patience and given managers an opportunity I think I mean the ones that spring to mind clearly in Norwich which we touched on obviously last time and have a poor result for them obviously will still at Southampton really disappointing in terms of
Starting point is 00:05:22 their start to this season as well and then obviously it was a Peterborough one that actually popped up first and foremost which probably wasn't a surprise i think you know what i will say um i thought it's handled with class um from darrow mcantony um i think just the tone of the statement we see so many don't we this day and age that are just really short very bland no real meaning and feeling behind him and whatever happens at a club you know and i can vouch for this haven't done it for a fraction of the time phil has but you know what a manager has to put in to the game in this day and age.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It is 24-7. It's all-consuming. And whether it goes really well or really terribly, that doesn't change. And, you know, I think at the very least where managers do leave their position,
Starting point is 00:06:07 a little tip of the hat, a bit of respect to be shown, is it should be the way forward. We don't always see it, but I thought that they've handled it brilliantly well, as they should do, because he is a legend at the football club,
Starting point is 00:06:18 Darren Ferguson, and he's done such a good job over so many different periods. Do you think it's just on the back of he never going in at Blackpool and they're doing something like a change and they're trying to get out of the trouble that they're in because there's two great managers there
Starting point is 00:06:31 you know he never replacing Stevie Bruce Black people have done something about it all of a sudden they've jumped and... Yeah I think with where I would sort of say I've got sympathy of Darren Ferguson is that squad's just been completely stripped and it is the Peterborough way, don't get me wrong you go and buy lower down
Starting point is 00:06:46 you develop, you play players and then they obviously sell them on I just think with what they've lost particularly over the course of last season and, you know, Kiprianu, Poku, Malik Mavisil. I mean, you've ripped out probably half of a team that, by the way, we have to say, underperform last season as well.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So I think you put that together with some of those newer signings and players that haven't quite found their level yet, it was always going to be difficult. And I don't think it's an easy job, but I just think a bit of a freshen up, maybe some slightly new ideas and a different direction is,
Starting point is 00:07:19 I think everything considered probably where the football club needs to be at this point in time. Do you think they're in trouble? Yes, I do. Do you think it's salvageable? I do think it's salvageable because I do feel they have got some quality. I think it's a squad that is underperforming.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Do I think it's a squad capable or would I have thought at the start of the season of competing for playoffs? No. Should they be doing better than they are at the moment? Yes, definitely. I still think there's some players in there that are underperforming. But it's an interesting time there. Again, Luke Williams, we know the type of football that he wants to play, Darren McCantney's been quite open about his admiration for him in the past
Starting point is 00:07:57 and he plays a type of football that isn't always conducive to, you know, being solid and organised and keeping clean sheets which probably at this point in time you would say would be the starting point considering how much they've struggled. So it'd be really interesting to see how they start. It's interesting you made the point about Blackpool and sort of them pushing Ian Everett and that setting the dominoes off because you look around Peterborough sacking Darren Ferguson and obviously you never in through the door at Blackpool Redding have made a change
Starting point is 00:08:26 as well. Hunties gone. Plymouth, really interesting. Being beaten by Mansfield and Tom Cleverly saying he doesn't have nine lives and that he has to turn things around really quickly to keep his job. We talk about the clubs in the championship as well. Obviously Sheffield Wednesday on exemption.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Sheffield United have made a change. Question marks over Norwich, Blackburn, Southampton could Oxford be drawn into that as well. I feel over the next three, four weeks, this is going to set a light. And you see the international break coming where owners were looking at it and go, right, this is the last international break before Christmas, before the window.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Get someone in now, make the change, decide where we're going to go in January and give it a go. Because some of these situations, Jobes and Phil, are wild when you see the clubs that are lurking around in certain areas. Aaron, you know, I close my eyes there and I can't see on the screen. But I'm telling you, I'm listening to an owner talking there. That's exactly the way they're thinking now. That's exactly. You've just gone through a trail of what the owner will be thinking.
Starting point is 00:09:28 If we get to the next international break and we haven't won another game by then and we're in the bottom three or we're starting to get cut of drift, we've got to start putting together or formulating a plan to get the next manager in. And that's even without a sacking. But that's what I suppose good senior management's all about. You know, was the Darren Ferguson sacking too late?
Starting point is 00:09:45 It doesn't matter. It's happened now. And they'll be thinking exactly the same way as what your question said there. Well, I think that's our dynamic sorted anyway, Phil, in it? Because Aaron's now going to be the owner. You can be the Gaffler, I'll be the assistant. I think we've sorted that out.
Starting point is 00:09:59 As you've just got to find out what club it is. Can't be too far up north for me, mate. You know what I mean? I never travelled that well when I was a player. So just let us know. Phil, do you reckon that owners are going to be looking for managers out of work purely because of the cost bases? Are our clubs still willing to go and pay fees to get managers out of their contracts?
Starting point is 00:10:20 But it would also be exactly what you're saying, budgetary driven, you know, shall we budget for where we're going to be, okay, can we give, you know, at the start of the season you're going to see, right, if we're in the top six, or we're hanging around the top six, can we give the managers some more money? Can we support them better in the transfer market, you know, when the window opens, etc., etc. But then if we're in the bottom three, have we got a contingency plan? And therefore, can we cut him loose and then bring somebody else in? Can we cater for that?
Starting point is 00:10:45 So they will, if it's proper senior management, they will be planning for these moments. And if it's middle of the table, it's a case of do we push a little bit extra into it before Christmas and see if we can sneak into the playoffs, or do we have to try and give the manager as much support as we can so we don't get involved in a relegation battle? All of these scenarios will have been discussed for sure. Liam Richardson, through the door at the select car leasing stadium, your old mate, Noel Hunt, shown the door, Joby. And it's sad, he's a really good guy, he's worked hard under some really difficult circumstances. It hasn't clicked for him this season though.
Starting point is 00:11:22 No, it hasn't. And I think he'd be the first to admit that in terms of a result's point of view. I know for a fact, performances have been better than that. And listen, that's obviously something that managers and coaches. I know Mikkel Ledrick would very, very well as well. He's been working alongside him. And I know they've been really frustrated, particularly in recent weeks.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And I think the Cardiff game really epitomises, I suppose, the start of this season where performance-wise was really, really good. just weren't able to take some of the other opportunities that came their way and ended up obviously losing a game that they should have got something out of for sure. And I think there's been a few other issues in terms of, you know, maybe some of the players that they did bring in and they were late in the window. There's no two ways about that with a lot of their recruitment. It's taken a little while for certain players to bed in. They've had the injuries to key players that, you know, they wanted to get a little bit more out of Paulde O'Connor, for example, to start
Starting point is 00:12:15 the season and his leadership, I know, is something that they really, really value. And again, I think there are some factors. I think when you are an owner who takes over a club with a manager already in charge, there's always that sort of, is he really his man? Or is there someone else that he fancies for the job? So, yeah, listen, I'm really disappointed for Noel. You know, I think people overlook how well they did last season as well as when Ruben Sayers left and it would have been very easy for that to sort of go kaput,
Starting point is 00:12:44 but very, very nearly got them into the playoffs. That was obviously a big factor in why Rob Kuig did keep him. on, I'm sure, and unfortunately they weren't able to replicate the results that they would have wanted this season. But also, you know, you come out in preseason say, we're going to get the club back to where we want it to be, this is the owner,
Starting point is 00:13:01 and then don't necessarily back the manager to that level, in my opinion, then, you know, it's obviously going to put you in a situation where the expectation of the fans, I think, is probably higher than what Rob Kuig's willing to do at the moment from an investment point.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I'm not going to sit here and defend, Rob. but I think this season for Redding is a proper season of consolidation. They need to start. That's not for the messaging was at the start
Starting point is 00:13:27 of the season. Look, I'm just the driver, Joby. I'm telling you, I'm here. We get this all the time where if owners came out and were 100% transparent and said exactly that, I have got no problem.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I don't think Redding fans would have a problem given how... What did this year? Terrible. We're going to return the club back to its former glory. You know,
Starting point is 00:13:48 we've going to have a budget that's going to be top end of the league all this sort of stuff and that wasn't a reality so automatically as a fan you're going to be thinking we should be at the top end of this table listen they have still underperform results rights I'm not trying to make that that isn't
Starting point is 00:14:03 an issue but I just think those expectation levels were raised right at the start of the season and he hasn't delivered in my opinion to match those expectations is Liam Richardson the right fit for the football club and what's the next move for Noel
Starting point is 00:14:18 I'm a little bit surprised because I thought Matt Bloomfield will be the obvious candidate but again in terms of where he's been operating is that a budget Redding can get to now is this a job that he wants to walk straight into that would probably be the two questions as to why it's not him
Starting point is 00:14:32 obviously a relationship that he knows Rob Coot extremely well knows Joel Jacobson extremely well Liam Richardson being out of work good pedigree at this level in difficult circumstances at Wigan last time around I think that for me is why it makes sense
Starting point is 00:14:46 because he has been prudent before. He clearly has been able to get a team together that wasn't with the biggest budget in the league, to go and be incredibly successful at League 1. So I get it. Again, will it appease lots of Redding fans at this moment in time? Probably not. But listen, I absolutely back him to go in there and get that football club moving in the right direction because that's where it deserves to go. Redding taking on Carlisle in the FA Cup, that's Liam Richardson's debut as manager, also in the cup. Peterborough's first game. Post-Fergy is at home to Cardiff.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Other highlights include this weekend. Lyle Taylor's Chelmsford up against Braintree in the Essexarby, Bolton-Huddersfield, Lois Ragsside, Moulden and Tiptree go to Port Vale on Sunday. I wonder what that Moulden and Tiptree owner is going to be like when he goes and visit our mate Carol Shanhan in the boardroom.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Special weekend, isn't it? F.A. Cup, first round weekend, Philip. F. F.A. Cup, second round weekend for me, is even more special. Do you know why? Put my Christmas tree up then. There you go. Every F. Can you help me put mine up this year? No, Matt, I mean, you've got to chop yours down first.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I mean, the size of your hallway. It's more an at at at Atreum in your house, Casa Brown. But who you're looking at that sort of weekend, the weekend of fixtures, has all changed. No league action for some of our EFL clubs, or league one and eight two clubs? I'm a Peterborough United support, I know. I want to see them do well, tell you the truth.
Starting point is 00:16:12 No, I always look at the clubs that I've been involved with, you know, the Bolton's of this world. you mentioned in playing at home to Huddersfield. FAA Cup is just an exciting time. Any time of, it comes at this stage of the season where you're sort of coming to that third of your campaign in the league and you get a chance to just take your mind off the league table for one weekend and start dreaming about an FAA Cup run.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And I think it's just a really exciting time. People, when they wrote it off the FAA Cup many years back, I just didn't know where they were going. And I'm so glad that it's got back to where it used to be. One that stuck out for me, it's a local team for me, St. Albans. They've got to go to Burton. And normally it would be a game that, you know, they're going to a league club, a really exciting time.
Starting point is 00:16:56 But the manager's just left Ian Colverhouse. So again, really strange time in there. So again, see how that works out. But that's definitely one I'm keeping an eye on us. Some of the other standout ties, Spennymore Barrow. That'll be tasty when it's Spennymore Barrow. Wildstone South End, Brackley-Notts County is the late kickoff. Wiggin, Hemel, Hempster,
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah, another club just down the road from me, so that would be a really interesting one for them. It's a great game for Hemelhams, isn't it? Because, again, Wigginsster, nice ground to go to. The one we've probably missed out is we touched on it a few weeks ago, I think, but Luton-Forest Green. I think with the managers on the touchline, that should be pretty entertaining. Obviously, Jack Wilsugar, his first win the other day, which was massive for him. And again, I think with Robbie Savage, we all know, there'll be some good value on the touchdown for that. By live sport
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Starting point is 00:18:06 from across the women's game Lucy Bruns, welcome back What one lioness do you think would make the best rugby player? Me? Listen With the BBC Sounds app 72 plus the EFL podcast with Aaron Paul and Joby McEnough One club that is flying at the top end of the championship Coventry City is Frank Lambert speaking to the BBC
Starting point is 00:18:31 So it's six consecutive league wins 12 unbeaten just keep it going Frank It is and don't get used to it like there's nothing You know what I mean? No no no I'm not talking to you I'm just saying Maybe it's a good thing people will get used to think oh why didn't we score three more
Starting point is 00:18:48 in the second half? I'm happy with what the boys are doing little things in the game we can improve for sure we can look at and check ourselves but you know it's not football like this over the duration
Starting point is 00:18:59 not a smooth run okay 7 1 you know 5 nil these things you get tested boys got tested I'm delighted with them we're playing well we need to continue
Starting point is 00:19:08 because as easy as you can go on those sort of runs it can be the reverse we've got to try and control it ourselves, keep going, keep working, stay fresh and I'm happy with a day. They're smashing it up, Jobes. Oh, incredible start to this season. And again, you have to look at sometimes a disappointment of losing out in the
Starting point is 00:19:25 playoffs. Again, I've been there. It is difficult to get yourself going the next season. There can be a little bit of a hangover, but none of that at all. They've used it the opposite way, you know, to really spur them on. I think they were, would be coming out of that Sunderland semifinal thinking we should have got through this. And I think that that in a strange way can then give you that extra bit of belief of like, hang on a minute.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And obviously, Frank, the time that he came in, you know, last season, didn't have that preseason to really probably cement some of those principles and the things that he wanted to work on. The big things I look at what he's done and, you know, the upturn and the consistency, the lights of Thomas Asante. You know, he has been absolutely magnificent this season. Had you right, playing him more central, making him a bit more of a, you know, figure point of the team. and I just feel that there's been those little tweaks that the same players that were there last season the first half of the season and he just seems to be getting so much more out
Starting point is 00:20:22 and they're just so well balanced they're a great team to watch score plenty of goals they've really tightened up defensively from the start of this season they are the standout team and certainly the team at this stage that you look at and go
Starting point is 00:20:35 I can't really see beyond them at this stage for going to win the league now there will have a bumpy team it's guaranteed at some stage is how he might That's the most important part for me, Aaron. For me, Joby, you know, that press conference that he did after the Sun and defeat was one of stature.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It was one of, he was standing there and actually saying it's okay, no problem. We've been beaten it. No, there's a lot of disappointed people around the players are disappointed, etc., etc. But he was almost telling them that next season will be better. Next season, we will take a further step and maybe automatic promotion, whatever it is. Winning a title is a different argument, but I tell you, he's showing us. all that stature that I thought Frank Lampard was going to have as a manager
Starting point is 00:21:16 of Chelsea when he first started out, but he's had a bit of a rocky road there's no doubt about it in his in the start of his career but now all of a sudden he's found a home and now all of a sudden you're seeing the best of Frank Lamparty, I think it's brilliant what they're doing in the Coventry, fantastic.
Starting point is 00:21:32 He looks really well Phil I mean he's talked about this fitness regime he's been on, the players look fit though the way they start games lightning quick you know you're going to get entertainment they're packing the ground out but as a manager that whole sort of thing about feeling good about being happy in an environment winning sort of like breeds that confidence but i mean you've got to get sort of fundamentals in before a fundamental basics of fitness levels are enjoying your work
Starting point is 00:22:00 without a shadow of a doubt and it looks like frank's enjoying his work now the reason why you enjoy i always go back to when we had success at south end and i was doing planning preparation for a half marathon for a marathon I was doing a lot of charity work I was in the gym every day I was on the training ground with the players and I think some of them players
Starting point is 00:22:17 are coming to be thinking Frank Lampard's playing alongside me in a five a side and they step up to the plate I'm not saying he's doing that by any stretch of imagination but I'll tell you what it's very very rare
Starting point is 00:22:27 that you're still capable at his age he's still capable to go on a training ground and showing everybody who can still play and I think Frank probably does that behind closed doors he'll probably keep it
Starting point is 00:22:36 to himself that he's joining in a little bit of training and enjoying it with the lad And if the lads get a chance to catch him and kick them because they're not in a team, hey ho, that's part and parcel of the game. But it really looks a happy club. Similar to Sondland, when Sondland are coming out with, we're playing happy football, it really looks a happy club.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And by the way, they deserve it, don't they? They've been through some horrendous history, covenry, haven't they, in the last few years? They've got their ground back. They've got a home once again for the first time in, what, 19, 20 years. 24,000 season ticket holders they are proper proper law fans and look it's a club that's very much on the up
Starting point is 00:23:16 and I just wonder again how do they reinforce in January how do they take it up a notch in January rather than taking their foot off the gas also just want to know who's challenging with them because we've seen a whole bunch of clubs in and around the top echelons of the championship
Starting point is 00:23:30 Millwall Joby we both said it at the start of the season watch out for them they're going to be dangerous Middlesbrough in there, yes, we'll talk about them. Millwall, Bristol City, Stoke, Charlton. No one would have had that as the four for playoffs at the start of the season. I know running 12 games in, but still, the table never lies. No, not at this stage.
Starting point is 00:23:52 You are where you are for me. You know, it's 12 games and I just think it's so refreshing. It's just so nice to see some other teams up there. And, you know, obviously the teams that came down last year, you know, have struggled, Ipswich and Southampton obviously Leicester haven't been particularly great either and again I think it's that
Starting point is 00:24:12 I suppose we talk about the word consistency but you know Millwall Alex Neal you know having that idea of what he wants from his team the players understanding it being hard to beat again are we now in an era where you know I think Coventry aside who are pretty open
Starting point is 00:24:28 and expansive when they play Middlesborough have been really good defensively you know Millwall tough to be stoke defensively been really good this year, Chalton as well. So actually, in terms of these coaches who know how to organise, they can get a group of players together that understand what it really takes to just get results on a consistent basis.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And I see some of their other teams struggling where they just haven't quite found that formula yet. So again, for me, Millwall, absolutely outstanding, particularly as their home form at the start of this year, it wasn't particularly good. But they've obviously turned that around. And again, you know, Alex Neal, what a job. he's done so far. Jones, what you talk about
Starting point is 00:25:07 they're being organised and getting the team and getting them set up in a certain way so they're tough to be. We have to give huge credit to Alex Neal. He's never had a fit squad.
Starting point is 00:25:18 If he hasn't had problems with the goalkeeper, it's the midfield now. He's lost Massimo Luongo, who they brought in to a place the likes of George Saville and George Honeyman in the midfield. In the summer, a bit of experience, great character.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Mass has done with an ACL injury. So then they're looking at someone like a Billy Mitchell who's struggling. with injury. Casper Dunor is playing every game. They're lighting numbers in central midfield and it's causing them problems but yet again
Starting point is 00:25:43 they look solid. Jake Cooper looks back to his best as well. Tristan Kramer's a good partner for him. Ryan Leonard is rolling back the years at right back. This is a middle wall side that could do bits they really could do bits and I mean man can you imagine
Starting point is 00:26:00 them in the Premier League Philip? I'd love to say it. I really would. I'm a closet Millwall fan I think the history of the club etc etc but when you've been talking about Alex Neal there soon as as you went in there I thought straight away knowing him as a person knowing him as a manager
Starting point is 00:26:15 coming up against them knowing what his teams are like when he sets them up I think that's a good fit I really do and the one word that we don't talk about too often where managers are concerned is substance and I think this guy is absolutely he uses substance and if anybody needs
Starting point is 00:26:31 substance in their team Millwall do because the fans demand it you know So when you've got that nice fit, it's almost like a hand-and-glove-type situation as far as I'm concerned. Alex Neal is perfect for Millwall. Millwall fans are loving the fact the way they play the football,
Starting point is 00:26:46 and now the third top in a championship that could go anywhere. Honestly, the second half of the season in the championship could go anywhere. Coventry could win it out of Seith and they could miss out in the playoffs. It's one of them kind of divisions for me. I'd have to throw Bristol City
Starting point is 00:27:00 that we didn't touch too much again. Gerhard Struber coming in there, you know, particularly off the back, of the team, massively overachieving last year and getting in the playoffs. That was a tough assignment and he's come in and the energy, I think the way that they play, they get on the front foot. You look at
Starting point is 00:27:15 a few of the results, they've got recently turned over Southampton, beat Birmingham City who, of course, a lot of people fancied this season. But I just think squad depth is going to come into things a little bit later on. I think this start of the season, we talk about it. You know, the international breaks, the ability
Starting point is 00:27:31 to sort of rest and recuperate, get bodies back if you had an when you get past the next international break it is now right open up time you know the saturdays the Tuesdays cup competitions come into it and it will test the squads but yeah i just think it's been it's been so nice to see a bit of variation and what those teams at the top are doing they're just giving themselves a massive opportunity later on because that difference they're accumulating in points versus the teams that we expected to be up there the southamptons the it's switch towns it's a lot of ground for them to make up you know everyone's
Starting point is 00:28:05 expecting them to get going. It can be done. Again, I think that's where those bigger squads then come into their own later on in the season where people do pick up injuries. You've mentioned Millwall dealing with it so far. I think they're as strong as they have been for a long time squad-wise and the depth that they've got, which I think's been helping them plug some of those gaps that they haven't been able to in recent years. You know, you look at Chalton. I mean, whole city, I had them to get relegated this season. Yeah. And again, the job that the manager's done and some smart recruitment I think that's the other big thing when you look at a lot
Starting point is 00:28:38 of these clubs they've bought players who understand the level they know the demands they can play Saturday, Tuesday and churn out games you know so again for me it isn't rocket science I think we're coming back to a little bit of a sense of actually what does work in the championship
Starting point is 00:28:54 and throughout the EFL what can get us a bit of success and I think that's why those teams are doing what they are do you not have any owners or chief execs or that's a football messaging you go and charge Joby, what about this? What do you reckon? What player-wise? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get people at football clubs.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Again, I think when it's people that you know and they trust your opinion, obviously we watch an awful lot of football. Jobs, there's the honour talking again. He's talking to you as a Chief's going on. Well, then it's the problem with that is, Phil. If I get one wrong, mate, then he can come and blame me afterwards. Let's flip the table over. Sheffield Wednesday, bottom of the league.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Chaps, very quickly, how good has it been to see, you know, those fans, returning. The administrator turns out has been a season ticket older for best part of 40 years. He really cares about the football club. Interesting to see the way that things were done the moment the club was put into administration,
Starting point is 00:29:46 the seats start to be changed. At Hillsborough, you see a lot of the remnants of the Dave von Chancy era disappearing. They're not out of the woods yet. I wonder how January you know, sort of like works with them
Starting point is 00:30:02 and player sales with the administrative. It's being like, right, well, you know, we've got to sell some of the assets here. We know we're going down, but we need to keep funding the club. Or do you reckon a deal can get done before then? Is there a possibility, Joey? Listen, I think there's going to be a huge demand from potential owners. It's a brilliant football. You've only seen that this week.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You know, in both stages, I think with the fans with the protest originally by not going, and by all accounts, that's probably accelerated Chancery's decision to put the club into administration because he realized very, very quickly that they won't be getting that little bit of funding. I say a little bit when you look at what the Shepa Wednesday fans have spent. It's been incredible in such a short space of time. So it is a significant amount. And he clearly felt that that won't be coming in to the club.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So that end point for him was probably a lot sooner than he expected. And I think because of that fan demand and the support, listen, there's going to be a lot of people out there that want to take over this football club. I think because they've been so responsive and they've come out and filled the stadium and bought merchandise, I think from an administration point of view, that just keeps them going again in a, I wouldn't ever say healthy, they're in administration, but being able to just keep on day-to-day for a little while. And yeah, I think it could be hopefully something that happens sooner rather than later, and then maybe they're able to keep, as you say, some of those assets.
Starting point is 00:31:24 But I think this is a longer-term thing now. Obviously, this season's pretty much done. it's about a reset getting someone in that can come and really get the club to kick on and start again fresh hopefully if they can get it done this season by the time next season rolls around they're in a good position to really kick on in league one let's push into league one it feels like the stewards have been the ones grabbing all the attention you still the late in orient steward wearing the white boots um yeah a load of chance being directed at him from the late in orient faithful i'll tell you what jokes about six or seven months ago i did a game at burn in the championship but I put up a tweet where I said I'd never seen stewards
Starting point is 00:32:02 doing sprints before a game but from what I understand this is a bit of a new trend the boots on you Stuart's wearing studs because it gives them more traction on the ground just in case anyone tries to run
Starting point is 00:32:16 on the pitch is that what it is are they the designated pitch invader stewards yeah you got you do sprints I mean it's on social media I think it's a big lad
Starting point is 00:32:25 pin tweet oh well units There's some absolute unit. He was a unit. I would not be trying to pitch invade with him there. I've got to say one, because the boots were looking lively. They weren't just a pair of black referee or coach's boots either. They're bright white, weren't they? So he obviously fancies himself as a bit of a player.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And when you're in white boots, I used to wear them because they just make you look that little yard quicker. So in terms of the intimidation for the fans. You look a better player, that's for sure. I don't know how quick. You don't look a better player. You had to tell myself, it made myself quicker towards the end feel. you need that extra yard or two because everyone's writing you off
Starting point is 00:33:01 so now a fair play to him and he took it really well didn't he I mean the fans really really getting into him and he took it well got a little bit of a gesture at the end and a wave so yeah good day all round was it the Plymouth Stewart
Starting point is 00:33:14 brilliant yes dancing he was done oh my word I was in absolute fits of laughter it's brilliant it's nothing short of brilliant I tell you what if they're part of the entertainment I'm good for that never mean the football
Starting point is 00:33:27 just here we see the stewards dancing and running around the fish like lunatic. I think that's what we could be missing. We need to maybe bring that in. You know, we see a lot of cheerleading, don't we, in NFL and NBA? So maybe we can get a cheerleader, stroke, steward, do a bit of break dancing. Just need a bit of background music. And again, it's probably showing my age a little bit, but I grew up watching a film called breakdance, turbo and ozone.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I don't know if there's anyone out there, any listeners, if you are, give me a shout. But growing up in the 80s, and it was just all about it was a big break dance scene. That was the steward that you're talking about there, Phil. I can just imagine that of a little bit of background music, a little bit of a magic. They're already for it, on it? High viz. They're ready, man, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:06 So, yeah, well played all the stewards out there, doing a great job. Jopes, I've sent you the video from when I was at Burnley, ahead of their game against Sheffield Wednesday. What was that? Back in February, stewards didn't sprint down the touchline with some, like, proper dance music going on the background. Can we see it?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Mate, he's got his big jacket on and everything. How's he running with that? He's head down like a, just like, just go for it. He's head down running like Jed Wallace. Have you seen how Jed Wallace spritz when he comes onto a pitch? You can predict it. I love you, Jed, by the way.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Are they getting paid enough for that as for Stewart? I mean, come on. When Jed Wallace subbed on, yeah, his aim is to become as aerodynamic as possible. So he'll get subbed on. He'll get his head down. He'll do this sprint and then he'll just go left and right and sort of swer around.
Starting point is 00:34:52 That's what they were doing. They took it right out the Wallace playbook. Yeah, look to. as though he was trying to break a world record there. I've got to say, and it's almost like a reel, and one goes up, he comes back down, and then he has one sets off, and I'm like, is that an extra qualification you need
Starting point is 00:35:06 or attribute you need to be a steward these days? You've got to do 10 second 100 metres as well. Sprint. I enjoy, there's some grounds you go to where the stewards are of an older generation. And it's really quite enjoyable to go there because bless them, like they're really, slam the bag searches and they're lovely I mean there's some grounds they'll bring like a little
Starting point is 00:35:30 word as original maybe a muddy mint or something like that just to give to you you know when you're going into a ground it's it's all it's all very nice and polite they're great they'll make a little joke with you as getting on the door yeah it's it's it's it's fun it's calm just to make the idea just in case the football's not too clever no one likes a jobsworth steward let me tell you that oh well i got one of them once mate where was it i was up the road somewhere it might even a in Burnley actually and I've been on the road no word of a lie it's a Friday night game and I'm in the car left my house about I don't know 12 o'clock so we've got to be there say we go an air at seven so we'd always aim to get there sort of half five you know about an hour for
Starting point is 00:36:12 rehearsal six o'clock so we're getting up as we're going up just traffic everywhere like m1 gridlocked get past that then the m6 oh my gosh not moving and your ETA starts changing as you're going up so the panic starts setting in this is obviously a live show show all of a sudden it goes from like getting there at six which will give me an hour to 630, 645 then I'm really panicking bear in mind I've been in the car for a very very long time so finally get up there and I kid you not it was about five to seven and I've got changed in the car everything throwing everything on pure panic stations get to the gate and have to go and see the stewards that let you into the ground and oh have you got your security if you got your
Starting point is 00:36:55 identification. I'm like listen, I'm on air in five minutes and I don't normally do this but you know, you're like, look, I've worked with TV I've seen him angry by the way. I've seen him annoyed. I'm on in five. I'm on in five. Would not let me get through mate and I'm at there she's rooting through my
Starting point is 00:37:11 bag. I'm going to have to get sent off to get my great John Lewis customer who's been given green olives rather than black ones. And then yeah, finally, finally make it. But I'm talking 20 seconds before about to get on air, finally get everything on and massive panic up.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So if you are listening and you are that steward, next time, please just let me in it. No, the worst is, look, the worst is, and I know they've got to do their jobs and they are, you know, they're paid to do their jobs
Starting point is 00:37:38 and they're paid to keep us safe and look, we love it and thank you, and it's great. The worst one is, though, when you walk to the press entrance and they go, have you got your accreditation? And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:49 I'm trying to get it from behind you. You know, like the area behind you. Yeah, but I need to see your past, your accreditation. It's there See over there I'm getting past you to get it Really bad
Starting point is 00:38:02 Really bad I don't know how we got on to that Your face is your accreditation now Aaron Come on you should be able to walk in any ground in the country Are you joking Have you done that before as do you know who I am No no no no no No no
Starting point is 00:38:14 Sometimes because I see my name starts with A And not just say it's AA I'm top of the list And they're going Oh where The best ones are you I can't see I'm there You know, when you just point it, it's there.
Starting point is 00:38:27 The worst, however, there's a club in the EFO. Now, I've got, you know, you know we have our kits that we take with us. The handle of my kit has all my security tags on them. Every security tag from the past few seasons. There are hundreds of these security tags. It looks disgusting. Imagine just like, you know, a really bad looking lunchbox with these paper tags around it. One club made me cut them all off.
Starting point is 00:38:55 and I nearly cried and I'll just turn around and I go if it's all right for the people who've got a Glastonbury to keep them around their wrist what's wrong with me keeping them there no sir it breaches our security regulations anyway rant over for this week
Starting point is 00:39:08 let's look at Ultimate All Time EFL 11 for this week's suggestions we're going to go to a message from Stephen in Sheffield I have two suggestions for the Ultimate EF11 Billy Sharp up front and Michael Brown in midfield
Starting point is 00:39:23 now we made an alteration to our midfield last week. Jones, bringing in Wes Houlehann. Where does Brownie fit in though? The Brown dog? Oh, and now, again,
Starting point is 00:39:32 another really good shout, isn't he? Michael Brown. Massive EFL pedigree very much. Again, I think he's an upgrade on an Ian Ashby. I know Phil's not going to want
Starting point is 00:39:42 to hear that, but in terms of, you know, someone who will carry out your orders, very much your manager on the pitch, leader, get his foot stuck in very, very much. I've been on receiving end of a good few Michael Brown
Starting point is 00:39:55 tackles. specifically sent out by Neil Warnock to absolutely smash me. See, I think he's a good shout, I've got to say. Does he dislodge any of that three? Not for me, Phil, I'm not sure. What do you think? I'm just looking at you two years,
Starting point is 00:40:10 and obviously I've not been on the show for a couple of weeks, and what is going on? How did he in Ashby get usurped? How did he get ousted? How did he get pushed out of the team? Now, come on, you know, you've... What happens when you leave us?
Starting point is 00:40:22 The second division, the first division, the championship, And then the Premier League, he's an AFA, absolute EFL legend. This number of votes, Phil. We put it out to the public, and unfortunately, you know, we got a few more votes for him. Stop lying, Davey.
Starting point is 00:40:38 No, I'm just telling him, Phil's been away for a few weeks. But this is what happens when you leave us, Phil. Your power starts to wane a little bit. And it lets me get into other people. We talked about four weeks, five weeks ago. We said no then. Now he's creeping back in him, come on. No, you're not having that, no.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Sharpie. or Mitrovich, who are you going for? Oh, Mitrovich, yep. All day long. And then you're talking about legends now. You're talking about legends. Hold on, hold on. No, I recycle that one.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I'll go Sharp. Oh, here we go. I'll recycle that. I'll go Sharp. I'm going to go Billy Sharp as well because I think we're going to get round to a all-time, not one season wonder,
Starting point is 00:41:17 but Mitcherich would get in for the time he scored about. I don't know. Correct. The one season won. Billy Sharp, 20 years, man. So are we replacing Mitro and the 11th? I think we are, mate.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Didn't expect that. Billy Sharp goes in, in place of Alexander Mitrovich. Send us your suggestions for our EFL Ultimate 11. A message, you can message us or voice not us on WhatsApp. 08,000, 289, 369. I don't know you're saying Michael Brown's replacing Ian Ashby, come on. That's not the case, is it? No, where's Hulahann replaced him last week?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Where's Hulahann? Ian Ashby's been replaced on the bench as well now. He's on the other day in Judy. No way, no way. You're going to have to tell him as. Well, Phil. Imagine that conversation. You've got to tell him that he's not on the bench, mate.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Brown and phone him. 08,000, 289, 369 message or voice note us on WhatsApp with your suggestions for our Ultimate 11. Or if you've got a job for Jobi, just give us a shout. He loves a job. Let's finish with this. 72 plus, 72 minus on the football daily. Yeah, it's time for Job's best and worst moments of the week.
Starting point is 00:42:25 across the EFL overture, sir? Right, I'm going to kick off with my 72 minus this week, and it's from Cheltenham versus Walsall in League 2. It was nil-nil, going into second half stoppage time. And Walsall's Aden Flint, another EFL, absolute legend and veteran, with one of the unluckiest own goals you will ever see. The ball gets smashed at him by his own player, about three yards away from him.
Starting point is 00:42:50 It deflects up off onto the post and then finds itself into the back. of the net for a 92nd minute Cheltenham winner. Let's have it. Can you get there before Flink can? Yes, you can into the penalty. Great run by Biggerstaff. Pursable back for Taylor, blocked almost on the line and then very nearly no goal in it. It's gone in. Cholm has scored. Bickerstaff going to claim it. It's ricocheted in. It might have gone in off of Walsall playing. Might have gone in off of Bickerstaff. Who cares? It's Cheltenham won Worsall. Bickerstaff's a great surname, isn't it? Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Brilliant comms as well. Joby, you're 702 plus for this week. And that comes from Crew versus Grimsby Town. And again, heading into the final few minutes. Crews, Emery Tesgal, on loan from Stoke. He already had two goals. Crew pushing for a late winner. This is what happened next.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Getting to nitty gritty time. Now, Holacek, back to Sanders, into the Palli, whipped in. Oh, goal! Emory Tesgall! Fires in a powerful header. Great ball from Sanders. Atrickman, Tescoe. Is it three points for crew?
Starting point is 00:44:02 I can tell you what? It's eight for the season for Embrate Teskell. And the home fans are going wild. Crew three, Grisbee two, stand up, Tescoll. Can I shout out the commentator on that? I love that. Proper giving it beans. You know how I said Joby loves a job or a gig?
Starting point is 00:44:18 He read my line there. I told you, Phil. I've delivered it well, though, didn't I? It's quite good. I'm getting better at these. I like that. Sadly, no, Emery Tesgel in our fantasy NFL teams. Joby won Canobi is up to 42nd. Motor in.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Lincoln's rearguard of Sonny Bradley and George Wiccings doing the heavy lifting with their clean shit in the gold of straw at Bradford. I have now clambered outside of the bottom ten, Job's really pleased with that. Right, so I was going to work this out. So I'm going to give myself a nip switch. I've had a slow start, but I back myself to come through the pack and get myself up towards the top end of that table
Starting point is 00:44:53 when I'll get myself together who are you then are you saints maybe Shepard United but you're out you're still out you just oh yeah
Starting point is 00:45:00 I'll be alright don't worry about that Jack Rodoney is still doing his bit on the sidelines but you know he's just key for us Amara Cozy Jubri back in the last grass
Starting point is 00:45:10 oh what a strike that was mate keep him in keep him in the side and look Loves the last minute Rudy Rudy he's on ice he's on ice he'll be back soon
Starting point is 00:45:19 shout out to Shirmat Bulldogs top of the league and also the highest score of the game week. The only team to break the 100-point barrier. Middlesbrough's Hayden Hackney, one of his key men. Our 72-plus league code is Joby, 72 EFL pod. Next week, you could rob that line off me.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Thank you. One job, and one job as. One job. It said Aaron. It had Aaron and then the line, and you still nicked it. Sorry, our 72-plus league code is 72-EFL pod. 7-2-E-F-L. Pod, thank you very much, Joby, for that.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Philip, where are you this weekend? We are at home to Chorley, Andy Preece's mob. So it's going to be a battle of six-yard boxes. It's all about set pieces with Andy. Yeah, you're going to take a little something to offer him after the game? I'll take him a little drop of the cognac that we were talking about early on. I've just bought a bottle of it, and it's staring at me now. I might have a little nip while I get warm this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah, I was going to say I'm on sort of the brink of a cold. Jobi, can you recommend anything? I can, actually. I've got the perfect winter remedy. So get some ginger, chop it all up, stick it in a nice bit of boiling water, bring it to the boil, make sure you really let it simmer, get that flavour and the goodness in there. Tip that out into a cup, bit of honey, bit of lemon, bosh. You are sorted, mate. And Phil, you're adding cognate.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Very good. Jobby, where are you this weekend? I am a bit of Carabow Cup actually this evening Newcastle Spurs the main game and then we'll keep it across some of the others but also Swansea City flying the flag for the EFL team so hopefully they can pull off something miraculous against Manchester City and then back in the studio on Saturday for Leicester's game which again is a big one now isn't it so yeah looking forward to that
Starting point is 00:47:13 I'm off to Oxford versus Mill hey Phil I could have popped round for dinner at yours after day You could have. Absolutely. I'd have the biryani on the hot. Nice. You're not going to be there. Thank you, guys, for your hospitality. And thank you to you for listening.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Remember to send us your all-time ultimate EFL 11 suggestions. WhatsApp 08,289-369. If you've got a gig for Jobi, we'll have it on there as well. That is it for this episode of the Football Daily. The 72 plus EFL pod. We'll be back next week. We'll catch you there. Go to the end zone, touchdown.
Starting point is 00:47:51 NFL. Touchdown. Philadelphia. Great play design. I think you just have to go out there and be the best that you can be. We're going to go out there and lay it all in the line. A 12-yard touchdown run. 105 yards on the return.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Where speed, power, and skill collide. And the Eagles are beating the chiefs convincingly in Super Bowl 59. Five lives for NFL. Listen. On BBC. Sounds.

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