Football Daily - 72+ EFL Pod: Williams to Posh & Reading get Richardson
Episode Date: October 29, 2025Aaron Paul, Jobi McAnuff & Phil Brown talk Peterborough appointing Luke Williams. Also Reading swap Noel Hunt for Leam Richardson. Hear from Frank Lampard with Coventry City flying in the Champion...ship. And will Billy Sharp & Michael Brown make our 72+ Ultimate All-Time EFL XI? Send your suggestions to us on WhatsApp to 08000 289 369.03:40 ‘Fergie time’ is up at Peterborough United 07:50 Grease up the managerial merry-go-round 10:40 Leam Richardson replaces Noel Hunt at Reading 14:45 FA Cup first round games to watch 18:00 Coventry City flying 29:05 Sheff Wed fans rally around the club 31:20 Stewards get attention in League One 35:30 Jobi’s ‘jobsworth’ steward 38:45 Billy Sharp & Michael Brown for our Ultimate EFL XI? 41:50 Late winners in 72PLUS 72MINUS5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Wed 1945 Liverpool v Crystal Palace in EFL Cup, Sat 1500 Nottingham Forest v Man Utd, Sat 1500 Burnley v Arsenal on Sports Extra, Sat 1730 Tottenham v Chelsea, Sun 1400 West Ham v Newcastle, Sun 1630 Man City v Bournemouth.
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Welcome to 72 plus, the EFL pod from Five Livesport, as ever with me, my right arm,
the Neil MacDonald to my Phil Brown, the Paul Rainer to my Steve Evans,
the, I'm trying to think of other legendary combinations,
the Richard Dobson to my Garth Ainsworth.
Oh, it is Joe McEnough.
Hello, mate.
You're okay?
Yeah, very well, thank you.
Nice to hear you, as I always do, because you're always working, but it was out and about.
Yeah, true.
We've got to keep business.
mate, isn't we? So yeah, I was out and about
a bit of commentary co-coms
4 or 5 live the other day over at
Arsenal with my old team Crystal Palace
who were brilliant by the way, they were really really
unlucky, played well first half but
1-0 to the Arsenal. Where have we heard
that before, right? Yeah, absolutely.
The Sammy Lee to my Sam
Aladais, little Sam and big Sam
Mark two. You heard me
now, you heard me with that one. Oh, there he is
the new Peterborough boss, Phil Brown. That's
Peterborough Sport by the way, not Peterborough United
I'm just thinking about your combination
with Jobi there, so that's managing, assistant manager.
Where does that put me on the show? Because I come on
quite regular. Is it sort of an
interim coach? Do I'm trying to say you want to be the
gaffer? Absolutely. I'm arguing
that all the way through.
You're not going to like what we've done with your
ultimate 11, because your main man's
gone, pal. Anyway.
Oh no. Yeah. How's life in National League North?
I'm really, really enjoying it.
I know managers always say that, but it really is a
it's an unbelievable challenge. You're just talking
to Jobie before we came on here.
And it's almost a different sport, Aaron, at this level.
And what I mean by a different sport,
it's part-time footballers,
players that are coming from a day's work
and then trying to fulfill what they can do
on a football pitch for 90 minutes.
And it's got me thinking in so many different ways.
And you've only got them a couple of days a week training,
but the challenge to get a tune out of a player
that's been grafted in probably 50, 60 hours a week,
it's a different challenge.
And the football at this level,
I'm telling you, it's off the map.
People are trying to play, people are trying to pass the ball, like a man's city, like, you know, some of the top teams.
And they're just trying to emulate one of the good coaches are doing.
So I'm really, really enjoying it.
More importantly, Philip, what I want to know is, look, you're a man who enjoys the finer things in life.
You always carry a nice bottle of something in the boot just in case.
You've often got a neckerchief on.
You look good.
You feel good.
You smell good.
When you go to these opposition grounds, when you go to Kurson-Ashton, when you go to Southport, is there hospitality extended, maybe?
the manager's office
are you offered a glass or something
maybe a smoke salmon sandwich
someone along the way?
It doesn't happen at this level
and I'm really disappointed that it doesn't
because it's open in my neck of the woods
you come to Peterer
you're getting a glass of wine before June
and after the game
and that'll be my chairman looking after you
the hospitality at our football club is brilliant
but I want to extend that to the managers
and I want it to be the norm
and it's not far from it
It's time for you to become a trendsetter I think
I think you should be out there
you should be encouraging a positive environment amongst managers
in and around the non-leagues.
Beautiful.
Are you guys a Peterborough sport looking over at the event south of the River Neen,
Peterbury United thinking, God, what a shambles over there.
We take them on tomorrow, we beat him.
Well, let me run by you what I know.
First and foremost, obviously, Sir Alex Ferguson's son I followed into Preston North End,
and it was a bumpy ride straight away
because he's following in a legend's son
and he's had a great career
there's no doubt about it.
He's fourth time he's the manager of Peterbury United
and we've been across there
we've got a relationship
I've got a couple of players in my team
that actually coached at the academy
and coached Peterbury United
so the relationships there
my chairman is a Peterbury United supporter
but he just wanted to do his own thing
and that's the reason why he bought Peterborough Sports
and I'm finding out about all these things
and obviously we know about the legends
that have played for them
the chairman and the owner of the club
it's a great football club is no doubt about it
it's had some fantastic
history as a club
but at this moment it's time suffering
and they've just changed management
and I think it wouldn't take
too much to get it back on track
I think if they've changed manager so early
they're looking to make sure that they're safe
in the First Division this season
and then they'll carry on from that
some week isn't it?
Yeah I've got to say
our group chat was fairly lively
wasn't it after the weekend's
results and performances
and I certainly feel there's a few
teetering on the edge
listen I'm an advocate of
patience and given managers an opportunity
I think I mean the ones
that spring to mind clearly in Norwich which we touched
on obviously last time and have a
poor result for them
obviously will still at Southampton
really disappointing in terms of
their start to this season as well
and then obviously it was a Peterborough one that actually
popped up first and foremost which probably wasn't a surprise i think you know what i will say um i
thought it's handled with class um from darrow mcantony um i think just the tone of the statement
we see so many don't we this day and age that are just really short very bland no real meaning
and feeling behind him and whatever happens at a club you know and i can vouch for this haven't
done it for a fraction of the time phil has but you know what a manager has to put in to the game
in this day and age.
It is 24-7.
It's all-consuming.
And whether it goes really well
or really terribly,
that doesn't change.
And, you know,
I think at the very least
where managers do leave their position,
a little tip of the hat,
a bit of respect to be shown,
is it should be the way forward.
We don't always see it,
but I thought that they've handled it
brilliantly well, as they should do,
because he is a legend
at the football club,
Darren Ferguson,
and he's done such a good job
over so many different periods.
Do you think it's just on the back of
he never going in at Blackpool
and they're doing something like a change
and they're trying to get out of the trouble that they're in
because there's two great managers there
you know he never replacing Stevie Bruce
Black people have done something about it
all of a sudden they've jumped and...
Yeah I think with where I would sort of say
I've got sympathy of Darren Ferguson
is that squad's just been completely stripped
and it is the Peterborough way, don't get me wrong
you go and buy lower down
you develop, you play players
and then they obviously sell them on
I just think with what they've lost
particularly over the course of last season
and, you know, Kiprianu, Poku, Malik Mavisil.
I mean, you've ripped out probably half of a team
that, by the way, we have to say,
underperform last season as well.
So I think you put that together
with some of those newer signings
and players that haven't quite found their level yet,
it was always going to be difficult.
And I don't think it's an easy job,
but I just think a bit of a freshen up,
maybe some slightly new ideas
and a different direction is,
I think everything considered
probably where the football club needs to be
at this point in time.
Do you think they're in trouble?
Yes, I do.
Do you think it's salvageable?
I do think it's salvageable because I do feel they have got some quality.
I think it's a squad that is underperforming.
Do I think it's a squad capable or would I have thought at the start of the season of competing for playoffs?
No.
Should they be doing better than they are at the moment?
Yes, definitely.
I still think there's some players in there that are underperforming.
But it's an interesting time there.
Again, Luke Williams, we know the type of football that he wants to play,
Darren McCantney's been quite open about his admiration for him in the past
and he plays a type of football that isn't always conducive to, you know, being solid and
organised and keeping clean sheets which probably at this point in time you would say
would be the starting point considering how much they've struggled. So it'd be really
interesting to see how they start. It's interesting you made the point about Blackpool
and sort of them pushing Ian Everett and that setting the dominoes off because you look
around Peterborough sacking Darren Ferguson and obviously you never in
through the door at Blackpool
Redding have made a change
as well. Hunties gone.
Plymouth, really interesting. Being beaten
by Mansfield and Tom Cleverly
saying he doesn't have nine lives and that he has to turn
things around really quickly to keep
his job. We talk about the clubs in
the championship as well. Obviously
Sheffield Wednesday on exemption.
Sheffield United have made a change. Question marks
over Norwich, Blackburn, Southampton
could Oxford be drawn into that as well.
I feel over the next
three, four weeks, this is going to
set a light. And you see the international break coming
where owners were looking at it and go, right,
this is the last international break before Christmas, before the window.
Get someone in now, make the change, decide where we're going to go in January
and give it a go. Because some of these situations, Jobes and Phil,
are wild when you see the clubs that are lurking around in certain areas.
Aaron, you know, I close my eyes there and I can't see on the screen.
But I'm telling you, I'm listening to an owner talking there.
That's exactly the way they're thinking now.
That's exactly.
You've just gone through a trail of what the owner will be thinking.
If we get to the next international break
and we haven't won another game by then
and we're in the bottom three or we're starting to get cut of drift,
we've got to start putting together or formulating a plan
to get the next manager in.
And that's even without a sacking.
But that's what I suppose good senior management's all about.
You know, was the Darren Ferguson sacking too late?
It doesn't matter.
It's happened now.
And they'll be thinking exactly the same way
as what your question said there.
Well, I think that's our dynamic sorted anyway, Phil, in it?
Because Aaron's now going to be the owner.
You can be the Gaffler, I'll be the assistant.
I think we've sorted that out.
As you've just got to find out what club it is.
Can't be too far up north for me, mate.
You know what I mean?
I never travelled that well when I was a player.
So just let us know.
Phil, do you reckon that owners are going to be looking for managers out of work
purely because of the cost bases?
Are our clubs still willing to go and pay fees to get managers out of their contracts?
But it would also be exactly what you're saying, budgetary driven, you know,
shall we budget for where we're going to be, okay, can we give, you know,
at the start of the season you're going to see, right, if we're in the top six,
or we're hanging around the top six, can we give the managers some more money?
Can we support them better in the transfer market, you know, when the window opens, etc., etc.
But then if we're in the bottom three, have we got a contingency plan?
And therefore, can we cut him loose and then bring somebody else in?
Can we cater for that?
So they will, if it's proper senior management, they will be planning for these moments.
And if it's middle of the table, it's a case of do we push a little bit extra into it before Christmas
and see if we can sneak into the playoffs, or do we have to try and give the manager as much support as we can
so we don't get involved in a relegation battle?
All of these scenarios will have been discussed for sure.
Liam Richardson, through the door at the select car leasing stadium, your old mate, Noel Hunt, shown the door, Joby.
And it's sad, he's a really good guy, he's worked hard under some really difficult circumstances.
It hasn't clicked for him this season though.
No, it hasn't.
And I think he'd be the first to admit that
in terms of a result's point of view.
I know for a fact, performances have been better than that.
And listen, that's obviously something that managers and coaches.
I know Mikkel Ledrick would very, very well as well.
He's been working alongside him.
And I know they've been really frustrated, particularly in recent weeks.
And I think the Cardiff game really epitomises,
I suppose, the start of this season where performance-wise was really, really good.
just weren't able to take some of the other opportunities that came their way and ended up
obviously losing a game that they should have got something out of for sure. And I think there's
been a few other issues in terms of, you know, maybe some of the players that they did bring in
and they were late in the window. There's no two ways about that with a lot of their recruitment.
It's taken a little while for certain players to bed in. They've had the injuries to key players
that, you know, they wanted to get a little bit more out of Paulde O'Connor, for example, to start
the season and his leadership, I know, is something that they really, really value.
And again, I think there are some factors.
I think when you are an owner who takes over a club with a manager already in charge,
there's always that sort of, is he really his man?
Or is there someone else that he fancies for the job?
So, yeah, listen, I'm really disappointed for Noel.
You know, I think people overlook how well they did last season as well as
when Ruben Sayers left and it would have been very easy for that to sort of go kaput,
but very, very nearly got them into the playoffs.
That was obviously a big factor in why Rob Kuig did keep him.
on, I'm sure, and unfortunately
they weren't able to replicate
the results that they would have wanted this
season. But also, you know, you
come out in preseason say, we're going to get the club back
to where we want it to be, this is the owner,
and then don't necessarily back the
manager to that level, in my opinion,
then, you know, it's obviously going to
put you in a situation where
the expectation of the fans, I think,
is probably higher than
what Rob Kuig's willing
to do at the moment from an investment point.
I'm not going to sit here and defend, Rob.
but I think
this season for Redding
is a proper season
of consolidation.
They need to start.
That's not for
the messaging was at the start
of the season.
Look, I'm just the driver, Joby.
I'm telling you, I'm here.
We get this all the time
where if owners came out
and were 100% transparent
and said exactly that,
I have got no problem.
I don't think Redding fans
would have a problem
given how...
What did this year?
Terrible.
We're going to return the club
back to its former glory.
You know,
we've going to have a budget
that's going to be top end of the league
all this sort of stuff and that wasn't a reality
so automatically as a fan
you're going to be thinking we should be at the top
end of this table listen they have still
underperform results rights I'm not
trying to make that that isn't
an issue but I just think
those expectation levels were raised
right at the start of the season
and he hasn't delivered in my opinion
to match those expectations
is Liam Richardson the right
fit for the football club
and what's the next move for Noel
I'm a little bit surprised
because I thought Matt Bloomfield
will be the obvious candidate
but again in terms of where he's been operating
is that a budget Redding can get to now
is this a job that he wants to walk straight into
that would probably be the two questions
as to why it's not him
obviously a relationship that he knows
Rob Coot extremely well
knows Joel Jacobson extremely well
Liam Richardson being out of work
good pedigree at this level
in difficult circumstances
at Wigan last time around
I think that for me is why it makes sense
because he has been prudent
before. He clearly has been able to get a team together that wasn't with the biggest
budget in the league, to go and be incredibly successful at League 1. So I get it. Again,
will it appease lots of Redding fans at this moment in time? Probably not. But listen,
I absolutely back him to go in there and get that football club moving in the right
direction because that's where it deserves to go. Redding taking on Carlisle in the FA Cup,
that's Liam Richardson's debut as manager, also in the cup. Peterborough's first game. Post-Fergy
is at home to Cardiff.
Other highlights include this weekend.
Lyle Taylor's Chelmsford up against Braintree
in the Essexarby, Bolton-Huddersfield,
Lois Ragsside, Moulden and Tiptree
go to Port Vale on Sunday.
I wonder what that Moulden and Tiptree
owner is going to be like when he goes and visit
our mate Carol Shanhan in the boardroom.
Special weekend, isn't it?
F.A. Cup, first round weekend, Philip.
F. F.A. Cup, second round weekend for me, is even more special.
Do you know why? Put my Christmas tree up then.
There you go.
Every F.
Can you help me put mine up this year?
No, Matt, I mean, you've got to chop yours down first.
I mean, the size of your hallway.
It's more an at at at Atreum in your house, Casa Brown.
But who you're looking at that sort of weekend,
the weekend of fixtures, has all changed.
No league action for some of our EFL clubs,
or league one and eight two clubs?
I'm a Peterborough United support, I know.
I want to see them do well, tell you the truth.
No, I always look at the clubs that I've been involved with,
you know, the Bolton's of this world.
you mentioned in playing at home to Huddersfield.
FAA Cup is just an exciting time.
Any time of, it comes at this stage of the season
where you're sort of coming to that third of your campaign in the league
and you get a chance to just take your mind off the league table
for one weekend and start dreaming about an FAA Cup run.
And I think it's just a really exciting time.
People, when they wrote it off the FAA Cup many years back,
I just didn't know where they were going.
And I'm so glad that it's got back to where it used to be.
One that stuck out for me, it's a local team for me, St. Albans.
They've got to go to Burton.
And normally it would be a game that, you know, they're going to a league club,
a really exciting time.
But the manager's just left Ian Colverhouse.
So again, really strange time in there.
So again, see how that works out.
But that's definitely one I'm keeping an eye on us.
Some of the other standout ties, Spennymore Barrow.
That'll be tasty when it's Spennymore Barrow.
Wildstone South End, Brackley-Notts County is the late kickoff.
Wiggin, Hemel, Hempster,
Yeah, another club just down the road from me, so that would be a really interesting one for them.
It's a great game for Hemelhams, isn't it?
Because, again, Wigginsster, nice ground to go to.
The one we've probably missed out is we touched on it a few weeks ago, I think, but Luton-Forest Green.
I think with the managers on the touchline, that should be pretty entertaining.
Obviously, Jack Wilsugar, his first win the other day, which was massive for him.
And again, I think with Robbie Savage, we all know, there'll be some good value on the touchdown for that.
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One club that is flying at the top end of the championship
Coventry City is Frank Lambert speaking to the BBC
So it's six consecutive league wins
12 unbeaten just keep it going Frank
It is and don't get used to it like there's nothing
You know what I mean?
No no no I'm not talking to you I'm just saying
Maybe it's a good thing
people will get used to think
oh why didn't we score three more
in the second half?
I'm happy with what the boys are doing
little things in the game
we can improve for sure
we can look at and check ourselves
but you know
it's not football like this
over the duration
not a smooth run
okay 7 1 you know 5 nil
these things
you get tested
boys got tested
I'm delighted with them
we're playing well
we need to continue
because as easy as you can go
on those sort of runs
it can be the reverse
we've got to try and control it
ourselves, keep going, keep working, stay fresh and I'm happy with a day.
They're smashing it up, Jobes.
Oh, incredible start to this season.
And again, you have to look at sometimes a disappointment of losing out in the
playoffs.
Again, I've been there.
It is difficult to get yourself going the next season.
There can be a little bit of a hangover, but none of that at all.
They've used it the opposite way, you know, to really spur them on.
I think they were, would be coming out of that Sunderland semifinal thinking we should have
got through this.
And I think that that in a strange way can then give you that extra bit of belief of like, hang on a minute.
And obviously, Frank, the time that he came in, you know, last season, didn't have that preseason to really probably cement some of those principles and the things that he wanted to work on.
The big things I look at what he's done and, you know, the upturn and the consistency, the lights of Thomas Asante.
You know, he has been absolutely magnificent this season.
Had you right, playing him more central, making him a bit more of a, you know, figure point of the team.
and I just feel that there's been those little tweaks
that the same players that were there last season
the first half of the season
and he just seems to be getting so much more out
and they're just so well balanced
they're a great team to watch
score plenty of goals
they've really tightened up defensively
from the start of this season
they are the standout team
and certainly the team at this stage
that you look at and go
I can't really see beyond them at this stage
for going to win the league now
there will have a bumpy team
it's guaranteed at some stage
is how he might
That's the most important part for me, Aaron.
For me, Joby, you know, that press conference that he did after the Sun and defeat
was one of stature.
It was one of, he was standing there and actually saying it's okay, no problem.
We've been beaten it.
No, there's a lot of disappointed people around the players are disappointed, etc., etc.
But he was almost telling them that next season will be better.
Next season, we will take a further step and maybe automatic promotion, whatever it is.
Winning a title is a different argument, but I tell you, he's showing us.
all that stature that I thought Frank Lampard
was going to have as a manager
of Chelsea when he first started
out, but he's had a bit of a rocky road
there's no doubt about it in his
in the start of his career
but now all of a sudden he's found a home
and now all of a sudden you're seeing
the best of Frank Lamparty, I think it's brilliant
what they're doing in the Coventry, fantastic.
He looks really well Phil
I mean he's talked about this fitness regime
he's been on, the players look
fit though the way they start games
lightning quick you know you're going to get
entertainment they're packing the ground out but as a manager that whole sort of thing about feeling
good about being happy in an environment winning sort of like breeds that confidence but i mean you've got
to get sort of fundamentals in before a fundamental basics of fitness levels are enjoying your work
without a shadow of a doubt and it looks like frank's enjoying his work now the reason why you enjoy
i always go back to when we had success at south end and i was doing planning preparation for a half marathon
for a marathon
I was doing a lot of charity work
I was in the gym every day
I was on the training ground
with the players
and I think some of them players
are coming to be thinking
Frank Lampard's playing
alongside me in a five a side
and they step up to the plate
I'm not saying he's doing that
by any stretch of imagination
but I'll tell you what
it's very very rare
that you're still capable
at his age
he's still capable to go on a training ground
and showing everybody
who can still play
and I think Frank probably does that
behind closed doors
he'll probably keep it
to himself
that he's joining in a little bit of training
and enjoying it with the lad
And if the lads get a chance to catch him and kick them because they're not in a team,
hey ho, that's part and parcel of the game.
But it really looks a happy club.
Similar to Sondland, when Sondland are coming out with, we're playing happy football,
it really looks a happy club.
And by the way, they deserve it, don't they?
They've been through some horrendous history, covenry, haven't they, in the last few years?
They've got their ground back.
They've got a home once again for the first time in, what, 19, 20 years.
24,000 season ticket holders
they are proper
proper law fans and look
it's a club that's very much on the up
and I just wonder again
how do they reinforce in January
how do they take it up a notch in January
rather than taking their foot off the gas
also just want to know who's challenging
with them because we've seen a whole bunch of clubs
in and around the top echelons
of the championship
Millwall Joby
we both said it at the start of the season
watch out for them they're going to be dangerous
Middlesbrough in there, yes, we'll talk about them.
Millwall, Bristol City, Stoke, Charlton.
No one would have had that as the four for playoffs at the start of the season.
I know running 12 games in, but still, the table never lies.
No, not at this stage.
You are where you are for me.
You know, it's 12 games and I just think it's so refreshing.
It's just so nice to see some other teams up there.
And, you know, obviously the teams that came down last year, you know, have struggled,
Ipswich and Southampton
obviously Leicester haven't been
particularly great either
and again I think it's that
I suppose we talk about the word
consistency but you know
Millwall Alex Neal you know
having that idea of what he wants
from his team the players understanding it
being hard to beat again are we now
in an era where you know I think
Coventry aside who are pretty open
and expansive when they play
Middlesborough have been really good defensively
you know Millwall tough to be
stoke defensively been really good
this year, Chalton as well.
So actually, in terms of these coaches who know how to organise, they can get a group of
players together that understand what it really takes to just get results on a consistent
basis.
And I see some of their other teams struggling where they just haven't quite found that
formula yet.
So again, for me, Millwall, absolutely outstanding, particularly as their home form at the
start of this year, it wasn't particularly good.
But they've obviously turned that around.
And again, you know, Alex Neal, what a job.
he's done so far.
Jones, what you talk about
they're being organised
and getting the team
and getting them
set up in a certain way
so they're tough to be.
We have to give
huge credit to Alex Neal.
He's never had a fit squad.
If he hasn't had problems
with the goalkeeper, it's the midfield now.
He's lost Massimo Luongo,
who they brought in
to a place the likes of George Saville
and George Honeyman in the midfield.
In the summer, a bit of experience,
great character.
Mass has done with an ACL injury.
So then they're looking at someone
like a Billy Mitchell
who's struggling.
with injury. Casper Dunor
is playing every game. They're lighting
numbers in central midfield and it's
causing them problems but yet again
they look solid.
Jake Cooper looks back
to his best as well. Tristan Kramer's a good
partner for him. Ryan Leonard
is rolling back the years at right back.
This is a middle wall side that could do bits
they really could do bits
and I mean man can you imagine
them in the Premier League Philip?
I'd love to say it. I really
would. I'm a
closet Millwall fan I think the history of the club
etc etc but when you've been talking about
Alex Neal there soon as
as you went in there I thought straight away
knowing him as a person knowing him as a manager
coming up against them knowing what his
teams are like when he sets them up
I think that's a good fit I really do
and the one word that we don't talk
about too often where managers are concerned
is substance and I think this guy
is absolutely he uses
substance and if anybody needs
substance in their team Millwall
do because the fans demand it you know
So when you've got that nice fit,
it's almost like a hand-and-glove-type situation
as far as I'm concerned.
Alex Neal is perfect for Millwall.
Millwall fans are loving the fact
the way they play the football,
and now the third top in a championship
that could go anywhere.
Honestly, the second half of the season
in the championship could go anywhere.
Coventry could win it out of Seith
and they could miss out in the playoffs.
It's one of them kind of divisions for me.
I'd have to throw Bristol City
that we didn't touch too much again.
Gerhard Struber coming in there,
you know, particularly off the back,
of the team, massively overachieving last year
and getting in the playoffs. That was a tough assignment
and he's come in and
the energy, I think the way that
they play, they get on the front foot. You look at
a few of the results, they've got recently turned over
Southampton, beat Birmingham City
who, of course, a lot of people
fancied this season. But I just think
squad depth is going to come into
things a little bit later on. I think this
start of the season, we talk about it.
You know, the international breaks, the ability
to sort of rest and recuperate,
get bodies back if you had an
when you get past the next international break it is now right open up time you know the
saturdays the Tuesdays cup competitions come into it and it will test the squads but yeah i just think
it's been it's been so nice to see a bit of variation and what those teams at the top are doing
they're just giving themselves a massive opportunity later on because that difference they're
accumulating in points versus the teams that we expected to be up there the southamptons the
it's switch towns it's a lot of ground for them to make up you know everyone's
expecting them to get going. It can be done. Again, I think that's where those bigger
squads then come into their own later on in the season where people do pick up injuries. You've
mentioned Millwall dealing with it so far. I think they're as strong as they have been for
a long time squad-wise and the depth that they've got, which I think's been helping them plug some
of those gaps that they haven't been able to in recent years. You know, you look at Chalton.
I mean, whole city, I had them to get relegated this season. Yeah. And again, the job that
the manager's done and some smart recruitment
I think that's the other big thing when you look at a lot
of these clubs they've bought players who
understand the level they know the demands
they can play Saturday, Tuesday
and churn out games you know
so again for me
it isn't rocket science I think we're
coming back to a little bit of a sense of
actually what does work in the championship
and throughout the EFL
what can get us a bit of success and I think
that's why those teams are doing what they are
do you not have any owners or chief execs
or that's a football messaging you go and charge
Joby, what about this? What do you reckon?
What player-wise? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get people at football clubs.
Again, I think when it's people that you know
and they trust your opinion,
obviously we watch an awful lot of football.
Jobs, there's the honour talking again. He's talking to you as a
Chief's going on.
Well, then it's the problem with that is, Phil. If I get one wrong,
mate, then he can come and blame me afterwards.
Let's flip the table over. Sheffield Wednesday, bottom of the league.
Chaps, very quickly, how good has it been
to see, you know, those fans,
returning. The administrator
turns out has been a season ticket
older for best part of 40 years.
He really cares about the football club.
Interesting to see the way that things were done
the moment the club was put into administration,
the seats start to be
changed. At Hillsborough, you see
a lot of the remnants of
the Dave von Chancy era
disappearing. They're not
out of the woods yet. I wonder
how January
you know, sort of like works with them
and player sales with the administrative.
It's being like, right, well, you know, we've got to sell some of the assets here.
We know we're going down, but we need to keep funding the club.
Or do you reckon a deal can get done before then?
Is there a possibility, Joey?
Listen, I think there's going to be a huge demand from potential owners.
It's a brilliant football.
You've only seen that this week.
You know, in both stages, I think with the fans with the protest originally by not going,
and by all accounts, that's probably accelerated Chancery's decision to put the club into administration
because he realized very, very quickly
that they won't be getting that little bit of funding.
I say a little bit when you look at what the Shepa Wednesday fans have spent.
It's been incredible in such a short space of time.
So it is a significant amount.
And he clearly felt that that won't be coming in to the club.
So that end point for him was probably a lot sooner than he expected.
And I think because of that fan demand and the support,
listen, there's going to be a lot of people out there that want to take over this football club.
I think because they've been so responsive and they've come out and filled the stadium and bought merchandise,
I think from an administration point of view, that just keeps them going again in a,
I wouldn't ever say healthy, they're in administration, but being able to just keep on day-to-day for a little while.
And yeah, I think it could be hopefully something that happens sooner rather than later,
and then maybe they're able to keep, as you say, some of those assets.
But I think this is a longer-term thing now.
Obviously, this season's pretty much done.
it's about a reset getting someone in that can come and really get the club to kick on and start again fresh hopefully if they can get it done this season by the time next season rolls around they're in a good position to really kick on in league one let's push into league one it feels like the stewards have been the ones grabbing all the attention you still the late in orient steward wearing the white boots
um yeah a load of chance being directed at him from the late in orient faithful i'll tell you what jokes about six or seven months ago i did a game at burn
in the championship
but I put up a tweet
where I said
I'd never seen stewards
doing sprints before a game
but from what I understand
this is a bit of a new trend
the boots on you
Stuart's wearing studs
because it gives them more traction
on the ground
just in case anyone tries to run
on the pitch
is that what it is
are they the designated
pitch invader
stewards
yeah you got you do sprints
I mean it's on social media
I think it's a big lad
pin tweet
oh well units
There's some absolute unit.
He was a unit. I would not be trying to pitch invade with him there.
I've got to say one, because the boots were looking lively.
They weren't just a pair of black referee or coach's boots either.
They're bright white, weren't they?
So he obviously fancies himself as a bit of a player.
And when you're in white boots, I used to wear them because they just make you look that little yard quicker.
So in terms of the intimidation for the fans.
You look a better player, that's for sure.
I don't know how quick.
You don't look a better player.
You had to tell myself, it made myself quicker towards the end feel.
you need that extra yard or two
because everyone's writing you off
so now a fair play to him
and he took it really well didn't he
I mean the fans
really really getting into him
and he took it well
got a little bit of a gesture at the end
and a wave so yeah good day all round
was it the Plymouth Stewart
brilliant
yes
dancing he was done oh my word
I was in absolute fits of laughter
it's brilliant it's nothing short of brilliant
I tell you what if they're part of the entertainment
I'm good for that
never mean the football
just here we see the stewards dancing and running around the fish like lunatic.
I think that's what we could be missing.
We need to maybe bring that in.
You know, we see a lot of cheerleading, don't we, in NFL and NBA?
So maybe we can get a cheerleader, stroke, steward, do a bit of break dancing.
Just need a bit of background music.
And again, it's probably showing my age a little bit, but I grew up watching a film called breakdance,
turbo and ozone.
I don't know if there's anyone out there, any listeners, if you are, give me a shout.
But growing up in the 80s, and it was just all about it was a big break dance scene.
That was the steward that you're talking about there, Phil.
I can just imagine that of a little bit of background music,
a little bit of a magic.
They're already for it, on it?
High viz.
They're ready, man, you know what I mean?
So, yeah, well played all the stewards out there,
doing a great job.
Jopes, I've sent you the video from when I was at Burnley,
ahead of their game against Sheffield Wednesday.
What was that?
Back in February, stewards didn't sprint down the touchline
with some, like, proper dance music going on the background.
Can we see it?
Mate, he's got his big jacket on and everything.
How's he running with that?
He's head down like a, just like,
just go for it.
He's head down running like Jed Wallace.
Have you seen how Jed Wallace spritz when he comes onto a pitch?
You can predict it.
I love you, Jed, by the way.
Are they getting paid enough for that as for Stewart?
I mean, come on.
When Jed Wallace subbed on, yeah,
his aim is to become as aerodynamic as possible.
So he'll get subbed on.
He'll get his head down.
He'll do this sprint and then he'll just go left and right
and sort of swer around.
That's what they were doing.
They took it right out the Wallace playbook.
Yeah, look to.
as though he was trying to break a world record there.
I've got to say, and it's almost like a reel,
and one goes up, he comes back down,
and then he has one sets off, and I'm like,
is that an extra qualification you need
or attribute you need to be a steward these days?
You've got to do 10 second 100 metres as well.
Sprint.
I enjoy, there's some grounds you go to
where the stewards are of an older generation.
And it's really quite enjoyable to go there
because bless them, like they're really,
slam the bag searches and they're lovely I mean there's some grounds they'll bring like a little
word as original maybe a muddy mint or something like that just to give to you you know when you're
going into a ground it's it's all it's all very nice and polite they're great they'll make a little
joke with you as getting on the door yeah it's it's it's it's fun it's calm just to make the idea
just in case the football's not too clever no one likes a jobsworth steward let me tell you that
oh well i got one of them once mate where was it i was up the road somewhere it might even a
in Burnley actually and I've been on the road no word of a lie it's a Friday night game and
I'm in the car left my house about I don't know 12 o'clock so we've got to be there say we go
an air at seven so we'd always aim to get there sort of half five you know about an hour for
rehearsal six o'clock so we're getting up as we're going up just traffic everywhere like
m1 gridlocked get past that then the m6 oh my gosh not moving and your ETA starts changing as you're
going up so the panic starts setting in this is obviously a live show
show all of a sudden it goes from like getting there at six which will give me an hour to
630, 645 then I'm really panicking bear in mind I've been in the car for a very very long time
so finally get up there and I kid you not it was about five to seven and I've got changed in the
car everything throwing everything on pure panic stations get to the gate and have to go and
see the stewards that let you into the ground and oh have you got your security if you got your
identification. I'm like
listen, I'm on air in
five minutes and I don't normally do this
but you know, you're like, look, I've worked with TV
I've seen him angry by the way. I've seen him
annoyed. I'm on in five.
I'm on in five. Would not let me get
through mate and I'm at there she's rooting through my
bag. I'm going to have to get sent off to get my
great John Lewis customer who's been
given green olives rather than black
ones. And then yeah,
finally, finally make it. But I'm
talking 20 seconds before about
to get on air, finally get everything on
and massive panic up.
So if you are listening
and you are that steward,
next time, please just let me in it.
No, the worst is,
look, the worst is,
and I know they've got to do their jobs
and they are, you know,
they're paid to do their jobs
and they're paid to keep us safe
and look, we love it and thank you,
and it's great.
The worst one is, though,
when you walk to the press entrance
and they go,
have you got your accreditation?
And I'm like,
I'm trying to get it from behind you.
You know, like the area behind you.
Yeah, but I need to see your past,
your accreditation.
It's there
See over there
I'm getting past you to get it
Really bad
Really bad
I don't know how we got on to that
Your face is your accreditation now Aaron
Come on you should be able to walk in any ground in the country
Are you joking
Have you done that before as do you know who I am
No no no no no
No no
Sometimes because I see my name starts with A
And not just say it's AA
I'm top of the list
And they're going
Oh where
The best ones are you I can't see
I'm there
You know, when you just point it, it's there.
The worst, however, there's a club in the EFO.
Now, I've got, you know, you know we have our kits that we take with us.
The handle of my kit has all my security tags on them.
Every security tag from the past few seasons.
There are hundreds of these security tags.
It looks disgusting.
Imagine just like, you know, a really bad looking lunchbox with these paper tags around it.
One club made me cut them all off.
and I nearly cried
and I'll just turn around and I go
if it's all right for the people who've got
a Glastonbury to keep them around their wrist
what's wrong with me keeping them there
no sir it breaches our security regulations
anyway
rant over for this week
let's look at Ultimate All Time EFL
11 for this week's suggestions
we're going to go to a message
from Stephen in Sheffield
I have two suggestions for the Ultimate
EF11
Billy Sharp up front and
Michael Brown in midfield
now we made an alteration to our
midfield last week.
Jones, bringing in
Wes Houlehann.
Where does Brownie fit in
though?
The Brown dog?
Oh, and now, again,
another really good shout,
isn't he?
Michael Brown.
Massive EFL pedigree
very much.
Again, I think he's an upgrade
on an Ian Ashby.
I know Phil's not going to want
to hear that, but in terms
of, you know,
someone who will carry out your orders,
very much your manager on the pitch,
leader, get his foot
stuck in very, very much.
I've been on receiving end
of a good few Michael Brown
tackles.
specifically sent out by Neil Warnock
to absolutely smash me.
See, I think he's a good shout, I've got to say.
Does he dislodge any of that three?
Not for me, Phil, I'm not sure.
What do you think?
I'm just looking at you two years,
and obviously I've not been on the show
for a couple of weeks, and what is going on?
How did he in Ashby get usurped?
How did he get ousted?
How did he get pushed out of the team?
Now, come on, you know,
you've...
What happens when you leave us?
The second division, the first division,
the championship,
And then the Premier League, he's an AFA,
absolute EFL legend.
This number of votes, Phil.
We put it out to the public, and unfortunately, you know,
we got a few more votes for him.
Stop lying, Davey.
No, I'm just telling him, Phil's been away for a few weeks.
But this is what happens when you leave us, Phil.
Your power starts to wane a little bit.
And it lets me get into other people.
We talked about four weeks, five weeks ago.
We said no then.
Now he's creeping back in him, come on.
No, you're not having that, no.
Sharpie.
or Mitrovich, who are you going for?
Oh, Mitrovich, yep.
All day long.
And then you're talking about legends now.
You're talking about legends.
Hold on, hold on.
No, I recycle that one.
I'll go Sharp.
Oh, here we go.
I'll recycle that.
I'll go Sharp.
I'm going to go Billy Sharp as well
because I think we're going to get round
to a all-time,
not one season wonder,
but Mitcherich would get in
for the time he scored about.
I don't know.
Correct.
The one season won.
Billy Sharp, 20 years, man.
So are we replacing Mitro and the 11th?
I think we are, mate.
Didn't expect that.
Billy Sharp goes in, in place of Alexander Mitrovich.
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I don't know you're saying Michael Brown's replacing Ian Ashby, come on.
That's not the case, is it?
No, where's Hulahann replaced him last week?
Where's Hulahann?
Ian Ashby's been replaced on the bench as well now.
He's on the other day in Judy.
No way, no way.
You're going to have to tell him as.
Well, Phil.
Imagine that conversation.
You've got to tell him that he's not on the bench, mate.
Brown and phone him.
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Let's finish with this.
72 plus, 72 minus on the football daily.
Yeah, it's time for Job's best and worst moments of the week.
across the EFL overture, sir?
Right, I'm going to kick off with my 72 minus this week,
and it's from Cheltenham versus Walsall in League 2.
It was nil-nil, going into second half stoppage time.
And Walsall's Aden Flint, another EFL, absolute legend and veteran,
with one of the unluckiest own goals you will ever see.
The ball gets smashed at him by his own player,
about three yards away from him.
It deflects up off onto the post and then finds itself into the back.
of the net for a 92nd minute Cheltenham winner. Let's have it.
Can you get there before Flink can? Yes, you can into the penalty. Great run by Biggerstaff.
Pursable back for Taylor, blocked almost on the line and then very nearly no goal in it.
It's gone in. Cholm has scored. Bickerstaff going to claim it. It's ricocheted in.
It might have gone in off of Walsall playing. Might have gone in off of Bickerstaff. Who cares?
It's Cheltenham won Worsall. Bickerstaff's a great surname, isn't it?
Brilliant.
Brilliant comms as well.
Joby, you're 702 plus for this week.
And that comes from Crew versus Grimsby Town.
And again, heading into the final few minutes.
Crews, Emery Tesgal, on loan from Stoke.
He already had two goals.
Crew pushing for a late winner.
This is what happened next.
Getting to nitty gritty time.
Now, Holacek, back to Sanders, into the Palli, whipped in.
Oh, goal!
Emory Tesgall!
Fires in a powerful header.
Great ball from Sanders.
Atrickman, Tescoe.
Is it three points for crew?
I can tell you what?
It's eight for the season for Embrate Teskell.
And the home fans are going wild.
Crew three, Grisbee two, stand up, Tescoll.
Can I shout out the commentator on that?
I love that.
Proper giving it beans.
You know how I said Joby loves a job or a gig?
He read my line there.
I told you, Phil.
I've delivered it well, though, didn't I?
It's quite good. I'm getting better at these.
I like that.
Sadly, no, Emery Tesgel in our fantasy NFL teams.
Joby won Canobi is up to 42nd.
Motor in.
Lincoln's rearguard of Sonny Bradley and George Wiccings
doing the heavy lifting with their clean shit
in the gold of straw at Bradford.
I have now clambered outside of the bottom ten, Job's really pleased with that.
Right, so I was going to work this out.
So I'm going to give myself a nip switch.
I've had a slow start, but I back myself to come through the pack
and get myself up towards the top end of that table
when I'll get myself together
who are you then
are you saints maybe
Shepard United
but you're out
you're still out
you just
oh yeah
I'll be alright
don't worry about that
Jack Rodoney is still doing his bit
on the sidelines
but you know
he's just key for us
Amara Cozy Jubri
back in the last grass
oh what a strike that was
mate keep him in
keep him in the side
and look
Loves the last minute
Rudy
Rudy he's on ice
he's on ice he'll be back soon
shout out to Shirmat Bulldogs
top of the league
and also the highest
score of the game week.
The only team to break the 100-point barrier.
Middlesbrough's Hayden Hackney, one of his key men.
Our 72-plus league code is Joby, 72 EFL pod.
Next week, you could rob that line off me.
Thank you.
One job, and one job as.
One job.
It said Aaron.
It had Aaron and then the line, and you still nicked it.
Sorry, our 72-plus league code is 72-EFL pod.
7-2-E-F-L.
Pod, thank you very much, Joby, for that.
Philip, where are you this weekend?
We are at home to Chorley, Andy Preece's mob.
So it's going to be a battle of six-yard boxes.
It's all about set pieces with Andy.
Yeah, you're going to take a little something to offer him after the game?
I'll take him a little drop of the cognac that we were talking about early on.
I've just bought a bottle of it, and it's staring at me now.
I might have a little nip while I get warm this afternoon.
Yeah, I was going to say I'm on sort of the brink of a cold.
Jobi, can you recommend anything?
I can, actually. I've got the perfect winter remedy.
So get some ginger, chop it all up, stick it in a nice bit of boiling water, bring it to the boil,
make sure you really let it simmer, get that flavour and the goodness in there.
Tip that out into a cup, bit of honey, bit of lemon, bosh.
You are sorted, mate.
And Phil, you're adding cognate.
Very good.
Jobby, where are you this weekend?
I am a bit of Carabow Cup actually this evening
Newcastle Spurs the main game and then we'll keep it across some of the others
but also Swansea City flying the flag for the EFL team
so hopefully they can pull off something miraculous against Manchester City
and then back in the studio on Saturday for Leicester's game
which again is a big one now isn't it so yeah looking forward to that
I'm off to Oxford versus Mill hey Phil I could have popped round for dinner at yours after day
You could have.
Absolutely.
I'd have the biryani on the hot.
Nice.
You're not going to be there.
Thank you, guys, for your hospitality.
And thank you to you for listening.
Remember to send us your all-time ultimate EFL 11 suggestions.
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That is it for this episode of the Football Daily.
The 72 plus EFL pod.
We'll be back next week.
We'll catch you there.
Go to the end zone, touchdown.
NFL.
Touchdown.
Philadelphia.
Great play design.
I think you just have to go out there and be the best that you can be.
We're going to go out there and lay it all in the line.
A 12-yard touchdown run.
105 yards on the return.
Where speed, power, and skill collide.
And the Eagles are beating the chiefs convincingly in Super Bowl 59.
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