Football Daily - 72+: Midweek Madness & Morecambe are saved

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Aaron Paul is joined by Reading CEO Joe Jacobson and Chelmsford City striker Lyle Taylor for this episode of 72+.The team reflect on all the latest midweek results in League One and Two, and speak to Barnsley boss Conor Hourihane, plus fellow League One manager of Cardiff City, Brian Barry-Murphy. And it's four wins from four for both Crewe manager Lee Bell and Stevenage boss Alex Revell, who both join the pod.Has Pep Guardiola ruined the English football pyramid?! And finally, the guys reflect on the takeover of Morecambe and the appointment of Ashvir Singh Johal as the first Sikh to manage a professional British club.Timecodes: 1:18 – Barnsley boss Conor Hourihane joins the pod 3:40 – Crewe manager Lee Bell chats about 100% win record 8:32 – Brian Barry-Murphy joins 72+ 13:11 – Alex Revell also makes it four wins from four for Stevenage 21:14 – Has Pep Guardiola ruined football? 28:03 – Morecambe saved by sale & appoint Sikh manager

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Joe, it's your first time on since you've started your new role. How has it been having a bird's eye view over the club? Yeah, it's very different to play, and that's for sure. It makes you realise actually that when you're in your footballer, you actually haven't done a day's work in your life until you take a step into the other side. But I've loved it. It's intense. It's stressful.

You know, there's a lot more pressure on it, but I'm absolutely loving it. Very thankful to Rob Coor for bringing me in. Great to have you with us. Hello, Chelmsford Strike, Al Taylor. Hello, Aaron. How are you? You good? I'm good, thank you. I'm good. It's good to have you with us.

It's good to see you back up and about and looking pretty fit. I'm almost there. I'm almost there. I've got one more box to tick on Thursday, and from that point, I should be back. I feel infinitely better than I did 18 and a half weeks ago. I'll tell you that for sure. Great stuff. No time to waste.

Let's reflect on some of the results, which have just come out of Leagues 1 and 2. We're going to be hearing from plenty of managers coming up and we can start by speaking to Connor Harahan after his Barnsley side got a big win on the road against Peterborough in League 1. Connor, congratulations, big win. Yeah, thank you.

Hard fought in the end. Could have made it a little bit more comfortable in the second half with the chances that we created, but could get to win in the end. This side of yours, I mean, they love scoring goals, don't they? I think as you've scored in your last 14 games, I believe it is back to back. What's the secret?

I'm very fortunate to have some very good players up to the top end of the pitch, if I'm being honest. You know, you've got Dave McGoldrick, obviously, who scores goals all his career in the NFL. Davis Keller, Dunn, very talented footballer. You know, you got Adam Phillips, Kaelin Vickers, who were playing on the wing, who obviously got a goal tonight.

So, yeah, just very lucky to have some really good footballers up at the top end of the pitch, really. Yeah, and you mentioned there about the goal scoring, but at the other end, keeping a clean sheet for the first game, in 10 games, I think it is now. That must have been really impressive for you to that. Yeah, that's the most pleasing aspect of tonight, for sure, without doubt. We've done so, so much work over the course of preseason with the back four and as a staff.

You know, in terms of keeping clean sheets, sometimes, you know, put your chances away. You know what it's like. You get pressure at the end. You have to, you know, block shots and whatever. But keeping clean sheets is key at this level, at all levels. And it was a big positive for us tonight, for sure. How much fun are you having? at Barnsley as head coach

it's very much your club you're loved by the supporters but how much are you enjoying your spell in charge? Yeah obviously look I'm really really enjoying it you know it's a pleasure to be head coach

at a football club you know the staff and the players that I've you know that I've got working with every single day it's a joy to come to work you know I'm obsessed with winning games of football

you know the hours that mean the staff put in to make sure everything's right for the players you know is endless and, you know, to get rewards like wins at the end of it then makes it extra more pleasing. But, you know, very, very lucky to be in the role that I'm in

and just, you know, it's a pleasure to manage these lads every day. Well, congratulations. Thanks for joining us. Okay, lads, cheers. Appreciate it. Connor, Horam, Barnsley boss, with us. We're going to head now into League 2. Crew Alexandra, four wins from 4, sitting pretty at the top of the League 2 table. Their boss, Lee, Bell, is with us. Well, Lee, great to talk to you.

Congratulations. Flying start to the season. Yeah, half decent start, isn't it? Yeah, thanks for having me. No, great to have you on with us. Talk to me about that performance tonight because from a stats perspective, naturally we haven't watched the full 90 minutes.

It looked dominant. Probably in terms of possession and territory, it wasn't probably as dominant as it looks as the stats. The most important thing is what we're doing in the final third in terms of shots and obviously our goal output at the minute is really good. In terms of performance, out of the four games we've played

in terms of quality at times that was the poorest one so lots to work on still Lee what's been the difference between last year and the last season and this season's teams I obviously took a bit of a battering towards the end of last season I knew what we had to do

and what we had to look like the team was always going to be young but just bringing that energy with the players that we've been able to bring in the recruitment's been excellent and then it's allowed people like Owen Lunt just to be 12 months further down the line and there's always the temptation when things weren't going too well last year

him and Kalamaggy has come to mind to just stick them in the team but we stuck to a plan in terms of getting them where we want to and it's allowed us to have a lot more athleticism in the team league take me through the summer I mean you said you took a bit of a battering last season your side was in and around the automatics

and then the playoffs and then there was a drop-off and you ended up finished things 13th. How did you reset to get a team going again for this year? Well, it was a long summer. I can trust you that. It was a very long summer, but I sort of got a picture of we weren't going to get in the playoffs, you know, towards the back end of the season. There was too many things that needed to happen in terms of teams needed to lose five games, etc. And I just thought, what is it we need? We don't look athletic enough. We're probably playing a formation, that crew weren't renowned with playing in terms of three at the back.

However, we set it up ahead of that. People saw it as a negative. And I just thought, you know, let's have a go. We're going to lose some matches on the way. Let's put together a youngish team with plenty of energy and see where it takes us. And what I would say is the response from the players in terms of what we've been after and the staff that, you know, do the work day and day out with them. It has been brilliant, but it's four games. We had a decent start last season and everything was rosy and it soon turns on its head. So we've got to stay on it really.

Lee, it's a big win on the road. Congratulations. That's a pleasure. Thanks for having me. Lee Bell crew, Alexandra boss, with us after his side recorded a 4-1 win on the road at Fleetwood. The PFA Awards have been dished out this evening. The championship player of the year was awarded to James. Trafford, formerly of Burnley, of course, keeping a sensational amount of clean sheets last season now of Manchester City.

Wick and Wanderers Richard Coney won the top honour for League One. And Bromley's Michael Cheek won the award for top player in League 2. And it was a record-breaking evening for Michael Cheek as well this evening because he has smashed Bromley's club goal record, which was set by Butch Dunn. Was Butch Dunn American? No, no. Butch Dunn was like, is argued Bromley's greatest ever player.

But he scored 132 goals. And Michael Cheek has hit that record just on crew. Joe, very, very impressive. Again, it's so hard for managers to reset after that disappointment. And League 2 is a real tough, tough test, isn't it? And I wondered about crew and Walsall as well. How do the managers get themselves going again?

when you've experienced lows. Yeah, for Lee Bell, I think it was five out of six they lost towards the end of the season where the wheels kind of fell off but he would have learnt so much from last season. He mentioned on his interview there that they started brightly last season as well

and this season he'll be making sure that some of the things maybe they got a little bit complacent ahead of themselves were thinking too far down the season and all of a sudden it can hit you like a ton of bricks, can't it? So he'll be making sure now that they're on it. They use the players like Mickey Demetriou

you're in the dressing rooms whether or not he's cooking breakfast for the rest of the players but using that experience now of what they suffered last season sometimes by missing out you can earn a lot more than actually from gaining promotion

or things like that and same with Matt Sadler it's all about now resetting and showing that you're a good manager and you can go again. He is brilliant isn't he Mickey to meet you? I mean like just an engine on him and it's all about the experience

let's flip from all experience to someone who's coming in to a huge job. Cardiff City He left it late to beat AFC Wimbledon and the Bluebirds boss Brian Barry Murphy has been speaking to Sahel Sahi after the game. Brian, you had to dig in at the end there

and you took the points. Yeah, I thought we had to keep going 12th the game. We played some really good football in the first half and had some good chances. We thought we attacked well. Always you want to try and make that dominance reflected on the score, but we didn't and Wimbledon naturally came into the game in the second half and gave us a lot of problems. But for us to

I suppose weather that storm and come on strong again at the end and attack right to the last minute was really important for us show what we want to be. How pleasing is it for a young group that you've got to get the first three points away from Cardiff? Yeah, I wouldn't take for granted getting a win here. I think they're a really difficult team to play against Johnny Jackson's on a great job over

a sustained period of time, so they're much more advanced than where we are. So to come here and handle what they threw at us really well and to keep them to as little chances as we did. It was very pleasing for us and showed our squad what were capable of achieving as we improve. Cardiff boss, Brian Barry Murphy after his side took a big three points

away from Wimbledon. And Lyle, you and I We caught the top end of that game. And we were talking about the age, the average age of that backline. It's 19. It's a very, very young Cardiff City Squad. And he's had to deal with a lot coming into a club where you're not just doing football,

but you're kind of doing PR as well. And you've got to turn around a club that's been on a downer for a long, long time. You've got to arrest that and turn it in the right direction. You do have to do that, but did you see the away end at Plow Lane? The away end was absolutely.

rammed so it's not like he's doing that and the fans are up in arms and they don't want to support him or support the team the good thing is he seems to have the fans on side and that's the biggest lever you can have as a manager if you you've got the players on side you've got the dressing room that playing to your tune singing singing from your hymn book brilliant if you can then get the fans on side you can actually you can create a bit of momentum out of nothing and Joe like you said late goals you get back on that bus and the fans are going home really happy thinking

everybody on that bus is the best thing since sliced bread that's amazing that pumps those young players tires up and as long as you've got a manager to put reins on them and keep them in check and keep them hungry and going again and again they've got a chance yeah look I'm a Cardiff boy I grew up travelling around the country following them I've been away on Tuesday nights to Brentford

when they've taken 5,000 fans to the old Griffin part And, you know, when that club is behind their team, it's a force to be reckoned with. And, you know, he's had to go in there under a lot of pressure. There's, there's been a lot of disconnect, really, with the fans and the ownership and the football club over recent years. But, you know, if you manage to get those wins early on and also by doing that and breeding some of these young players from local players through, you speak to all fans. What do they want?

They want young local heroes to kind of talk about. And they've certainly got that at the minute. Look, they're going to have to win games along. the way as well to make sure because you know as football fans will quickly kind of forget about who's playing and just want results but you know they're still able to bring on the likes of

Callum Robinson and Chris Willock as well who are far too good for this level so they do have that depth as well as some big players from the championship whether or not they'll stay there past the window but Cardiff when it gets going is a big force was it always a risk from Mehmet Dauman and Vincent Tan in terms of recruiting a head coach

who has come from 23s football as we call it the EDS at Manchester City where you are able to play a different style of football Laugh, maybe the style of football that you don't like to see. I ask that because it feels as though he's very clued up.

He's very organised, he's very drawn. They're a disciplined side cardiff. Well, look, he has had a stint. He was Rochstead manager, wasn't he? A few years ago and I played against his Rochstead team who were very free-flowing, playing out from the back, La would have hated it.

But then you go to Man City for a reason and you have to play a certain way. So it's just about how he's going to adapt. Now, 23s football is so different. It's not real football in my eyes. It's completely different to first team football. But if you're a good football manager and you have a good football brain,

you can adapt, can't you? It's not just about playing one way of football and you have to learn how to win. And, you know, he's had that experience previously. He's gone back into 23s. He's now probably thought, now's the time I want to, you know, cement myself as a first team football manager

and make my way up the pyramid so he'll know in his head that he'll have to not just play a certain way but have to win football matches that's the most important thing. It's been a cracking start to the season for Stevenage. Four wins from four their boss.

Alex Revell is with us now. Alex, good evening. Great to have you on with us. Evening guys, how are you going? Yeah, very, very well. I'd imagine you're a very happy Stevenage boss tonight. Witnessing that performance.

Yeah, absolutely. I think it's the emotion of football. 85 minutes, I think we miss a chance and you're thinking, you know, is that the game done? But, you know, to score two late goals and to win the game and to continue, you know, the wins is a fantastic evening for the football club and just shows really how committed

and together the group that we have is. They work incredibly hard for each other and obviously, you know, winning away from home, especially here, really big result for us. Reves, it must be so, so nice for you being on the pitch. Yes, you're a goal down, but knowing that you've got someone like Jamie Reid there who at any point can just turn anything to a goal, he comes up today with two goals in quick succession. It must be so nice being a manager knowing that you've got someone there who can score a goal at any instance.

Yeah, absolutely. I think my phone's going to airplay mode for a couple of days. But yeah, he's a special player for us. I think that, you know, a lot of was said last year. with him because he had a really tough year the start last year and ended up chasing his game a little bit and really trying to find his legs but what he's done is he's worked incredibly hard all

preseason and just grown from strength to strength and when you work like that and you know his work rate tonight you do get your rewards and I thought that both finishes tonight the first one was just someone who was in complete control of his

of his game but I thought the second one I said to him was probably one of the best goals I've seen him. It was touched, turn, finished so quickly. And it just shows a player that, you know, when you give him those chances, he's going to score for us. And, you know, he's a huge part of this group.

And we obviously love working with him every day. Does the expectation change? You know, your four games in now, you are where you are in the division. And I don't want to hear that you don't look at the league table because straight away in the dressing room, it's on the screens. You can't get away from seeing it.

So in the back of your mind, you'll be thinking, no, but does the expectation start to change and do people around the club start thinking, actually, could we do something special this season? I think it is the natural beauty of football, right, that when you start, well, you know, everybody's looking and they're either waiting for that bump in the road or, you know, they're always constantly looking and asking questions. But I think for us, I think that when you've got a group like this, that, you know, we've had a year and a half now with them and we've, We've just seen them grow from strength to strength. And, you know, tonight we played a shape and we had to change it because it wasn't ideal, wasn't working the way we adapted.

And the players just, you know, they just did it. And that's a really good thing for us to have moving forward. But I think from our point of view, our expectations are if we keep this group together and we keep pushing, you never know in this league. There's always people that push. It's really early. People are still finding out. about each other. But when you, you know, winning breeds confidence, it builds belief.

And the longer we can keep that going, obviously, then the more chance we have of staying in and around it. But I think that the biggest thing for us is we do take the old cliche of every game as it comes. We knew tonight was going to be really tough. We have to deal with these games. And then we move on and we've got Huddersfield away on Saturday. So, you know, I think that we just, we just keep enjoying doing what we're doing, working every day together. pushing each other and trying to create, you know, this thing where we turn up to games really believing in what we're trying to do. Do you put reins on the team and tell them, okay, don't get ahead of yourself, this is where we're at? Or do you say, no, no, no, we deserve

to be here. We've proven this. It's only four games. It's a small subset of a sample set, but we deserve to be here. So let them fear us. Yeah, absolutely. No fear for us. I think that that there's some really big teams. I think we, you know, obviously there's nine teams in this league that were in the Premier League before. So it's easy to go into these games and fear. But if you do, you're on the back foot. For us, you know, it's about embracing it.

You have to embrace it. When you're at the top of the league and, you know, everybody's there. You know, you set your standards and people are trying to try to chase those. So we have to just believe in everything that they're giving. They work incredibly hard. And I know most managers, every manager would say that about a team. But this, you know, for me, this team, well, is incredibly hard. They're so united together. They want the best for each other. And when you're

winning, obviously, it's a bit easier. If you're losing, it gets tested. But at the moment, we have a really good group of people that are just continually pushing each other. And, you know, today I think there's no finer example of that. And from our point of view, we just have to keep the standards, keep the demands. We're very demanding. So are the players on each other. And we just have to keep believing and keep growing. And listen, there will be bumps along the road, of course. they will and it's just about but one thing I will know is that when they step on the pitch it won't be through a lack of effort

or togetherness or that spirit that we don't get the result it might be through a lack of quality at times or luck whatever that looks like but it will never be because they lack that spirit and that energy and trust of each other and Alex three years between

your stints at Stephenage how have you evolved and how have you changed as a manager I think that for me I've probably got a lot more confidence in myself I think when I first took the job I'm open I wasn't ready for it at all I wasn't I didn't know what pressure did

I think when you're a footballer when you have pressure you can deal with it a lot easier because you go out and you just perform and you you work harder or however that is but as a manager when that pressure builds it is difficult it's a lonely place at times but the biggest thing I've learned is to just to enjoy. I'm extremely lucky to be in this position.

There's not many positions that have this, you know, what I have. I've got an incredible group of staff. The biggest thing for me, I've got staff that if I trust absolutely to deliver what we want. And it's about the group you have. Ultimately, we've demanded that we're all about trust and respect on, you know, within training, within games, within being, you know, day-to-day training and lateness and things. We're just, we're just so together that I just know I've got this group and I love working with them and that's how, that's who I am as a person. We put trust

into them to deliver on the pitch and I think just this time around I really believe in what we're trying to do and what I'm trying to do and, you know, that's the biggest different for me. Just having that confidence as a manager to deliver what you want to see. it's working. Four wins from four, your top of league one tonight. Congratulations. Thanks, guys. Good to speak to you. Alex Revelle, Stevenage, boss with us. Coming up, we're going to be answering the question. Has Pep Guardiola ruined football? And we'll reflect on National League side, Morgan finally being saved.

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Pep has single-handedly ruined football. No, he has. English football. He has. Because it's not English football anymore. We've now adopted this European, like, I suppose, mish-mash almost because we still want to play Channel Bulls because it's what we grew up doing.

As soon as we get to 11 a side, the fallback curls one down the side, the winger comes short checks and he gets him behind. They don't do that on the continent. Are you standing by this? I am 100% standing by it. What I will say is I have no issue with teams playing expansive football and intricate football at the top end of the pitch, but I'm sick and tired of this,

let's try and play out from the back nonsense, when it's quite clear that the goalkeepers aren't good enough ball handlers and the centre halves aren't necessarily good enough ball handlers, and it's just playing into the hands of strikers who want to press. I don't understand why we do it. You can take the first pass and you draw a team on and you can clip the ball into the nine. You can clip the ball into wingers.

It's not necessarily about smashing the ball long and filling the pitch up. There's a million ways to skin the cap. But at the end of the day, we've got the worst footballers, and this is a generalisation, and the worst footballers in any given team or the majority of teams playing and having the most touches of the football

when the best players who get paid the most money at the top end of the pitch and who do the most difficult things are starved of service because you've got goalkeepers and centre halves playing triangles and it's just rubbish. Joe, your take as a former defender

and not CEO, please. Yeah, thanks for telling me about defenders being terrible on the board. Yeah, but do you think though it's the managers. A lot of this is the managers almost trying to create an identity for themselves of saying well I've seen managers go up the

pyramid for the style of play not necessarily results driven and they all thinking now well actually it doesn't really matter about the results if I'm being seen to play football the right way in inverted commas that they'll get progressively up the pyramid and it's all about them and what

they want to do because we see it time and time again when you make a mistake on a football pitch right and the first thing you want to do is go I'm not doing that again when a team plays out and they get caught how often do you hear a manager go no keep doing it keep doing it keep doing it if I'm the opposition player

an attacker like you and I'm winning the ball back and they're saying let's keep doing it all of a sudden you're thinking yes keep doing it keep doing it because I'll have more opportunities 100% but then on the flip side of that if my team are doing it and keep giving the ball away I'm going to lose my marbles because ultimately we at the top end of the pitch

are suffering because the players at the back end of the pitch are having all of the possession of the ball. You don't create chances by centre halves making 200 successful passes in a game. You don't. You get the ball forward and you let your exciting players.

Your players that clubs bring in because they get people in the stadium and they get bums off seats. You get that to your wingers. You get that to your tens. You get at to your forwards who make the difference and are exciting to watch.

we've got to a place now where the FA are obviously bringing all of these coaches through all of these young coaches and it's the same set of criteria they have to meet to get their qualifications and we all understand you have to meet a certain standard that's not the issue but then once they've reached that standard and once they have that schooling per se let's have a little bit of a little bit of creativity a little bit of something indifferent. It just seems like now what we do is we set up on the edge of the box and we go on, then we're going to

play short first. And that's why for me Bromley is such a beautiful throwback because they might take the first pass but then the second one is going into the nine and that's when they cause you problems because you get runners off of your nine, you're in business. Joe why clubs not being more pragmatic

when it doesn't work? Why do they insist on repeating something if it's going to cause them issues? Like Lyle said then, a lot of these coaches now are brought up to play a certain way and it's almost like they're not being taught how to win. I feel like that's been taken out of it a little bit of

on the pitch, even if it's a manager saying, look, this is how I want you to do it. It takes players on the pitch as well to stand up and say, hang on a minute, this isn't working for us. We can be that in-game management that players talk about all the time as they can take control and say, hang on a minute, Gaffa, for the next 10 minutes

we're not getting anything out of this the way we're doing it. Let's go long. Let's win the second balls. That's playing half. You watch Arsenal, Man City, they still go long at times. They still hit a centre forward, they still get behind it and I just think that leagues one or two are always paying

catch up, you know what I mean? They're always trying to then, oh they're doing that further up the pyramid, let's see if we can then adapt to that and adapt to that, but you're always playing catch up, you're always a step behind and there's definitely a place like you said to to play and to overplay at times, but at the back

you know, it's just it's tough to watch from your own team doing it just sitting on the edge for it. Lyle, one to you Pep Guardiola has changed his style. He's altered it. He's had to after seeing what happened last season. Is football healing

because of Pev? Quite possibly I think Erling Harland has had quite an effect on the healing of football in my opinion because he is we've gone away from wingers and tens playing us forwards and false

nines and those kind of things. We've gone away from And the old school number nine is, in my opinion, back. And I think we will see the repercussions of Erlin Harland and his popularity in the way he plays football over the next four or five years with young players wanting to be nines again rather than tens and wingers. We've seen a lot more now as well of two up front. That went completely out the way, didn't it?

No one played with two centre forwards. Now teams are adapting the way they're playing there. Formations are so fluid now. But I think a lot of managers are realising having two players up there rather than have one so isolated, you must have played as a nine on your own for countless games thinking I've got no one absolutely anywhere near me but if you imagine if you played with two at front the whole time

your numbers would have been I'm like they're obviously very good as they were but they would have been skyline 100% if you've got a mate up there whether you're playing against the two or you're playing against the back three it helps you infinitely let's talk more now after tumultuous 48 hours which sought the club saved by the Punjab Warriors

consortium on Sunday before Saki manager Derek Adams on Monday in replacing him with Ashvier Singh Gile the first seek to manage in professional British football. Let's start with the news that the club was saved. Joe, huge news, a relief after so much uncertainty

over the last few weeks and months. Yeah, finally some good news for Mawken Football Club and what the fans and the people are associated with the club, the people who work behind the scenes, what they've had to go through over recent times. And it's sad, it happens. It seems like every year there's someone new

that goes through this and Morkham have been going for a tough time for a little while now when an ownership doesn't want to sell it makes it very,

very difficult and sometimes owners they've put a lot money into clubs and they want that back they don't understand the situation they don't understand

what that football club means to the community to the local people to the fans it's not just the business it means so much more it's people's livelihood it's what people

kind of save up all week to go and see their friends on the weekend as part of their rituals It's part of their lives. And, you know, the EFL is difficult for them with their test. They put people through, but you can never quite foresee what's going to happen with an owner,

with their personal circumstances. But I'm just thankful that right now we've got some good local people who want to help the football club and, you know, they've managed to save Morgan. And Lyle, the new owners, Punjab Warriors, gave their sincere gratitude to Derek Adams after his third stint in charge of the club came to an end. They've replaced him with Ashvir Singh Giles, who is, well, the youngest managed in the top five of English football at the age of 30,

the first seek in British professional football management as well. A lot of people, and you guys have just talked about experience, would say that you need experience in a situation like this when you're navigating choppy waters. But this also could be something huge. It could be a fresh start that the football club deserves and I hope it is because we we've seen in in recent years way way too many times with clubs falling on hard times and for various different reasons and I think I think the

governing body have to they have to stand up and and take ownership of of the fact that this keeps happening and I think they have to do something about it the fit and proper test obviously isn't fit and proper so they have to do something about that but taking away from from from the I suppose the corporate side of it and that side of it I really hope that that Morecam can now steady the ship as it were focus on the football but well yeah I mean they've they've missed the first three weekends of the of the season already so I hope now they'll be able to find some find enough players to be able to put a team out there and and I hope the community

and I'm sure the community will I hope they they get behind the team and back them as I'm sure they will because the Saturdays are so important for the fan the Tuesday nights are so important for the fan and the football club is like you say Joe it's more than just 11 or 22 idiots running around kicking a ball it's so much more than that it's a hub it's a social hub and to have those people be so close to the brink

and have their football club back, they'll be, they'll be reveling in that. And I really do wish Morkham the very best of luck going forward and I hope they gain and regain success. They've only got five players on their books. They take on auctioning them on Saturday. Joe, maybe worth a phone call to see if you can lend them anyone. I think just on a final point for me, as a British seat to see someone like that be a real inspiring figure for younger generations to show that, you know what, yeah, we've got

a place in the game too. For someone who's done so, so well, it's a real proud moment to see Punjab Warriors take over and then Ashtra get his first job. And hopefully we'll be have to have him here on 72 plus with us at some point during the season. Good luck to Ashfair and co. Right, that's it for this episode of 72 plus

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