Football Daily - Bruno Fernandes - The Football Interview

Episode Date: September 13, 2025

What is Bruno Fernandes' approach to criticism and the opinions of others? The Manchester United midfielder sits down with Kelly Somers to talk about his childhood, his greatest memories and his views... on parenting. From trying to nail down a starting place in Serie A, to an attack on players by fans at Sporting Lisbon, he discusses his mentality on and off the pitch and moments that have shaped him as a person.

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Starting point is 00:01:07 Often he's seen fielding questions about Manchester United's battle to get back to the top of both English and European football. So today I came along to find out a little bit more about the man behind the player. Bruno described to me a young Bruno. What would you like as a child? A dreamer, someone very passionate about everything he would do. A kid with a ball under his arm all the time. A kid that would love to be outside of his house with his cousins, with his friends, to play, not only to play football, but to do anything that I could to enjoy my childhood. I was a very happy child.
Starting point is 00:01:51 What's your first specific football memory then? I would say that the best one I have in my memory, more fresh is the 2004 Euro in Portugal. So first time that we had the euros in Portugal, I was around 10 years old. So that's my biggest first memory in football. What do you remember if that tournament? No, everything, but the main one for me
Starting point is 00:02:16 was going with my mom from my small town to the center of the town because they had a big screen there to watch Portugal play. and you know everyone with their flags, you know, but I had my flag under my neck, I have some paint on my face, everything. And I was just a happy, happy kid going, going and seeing a lot of people going by my side just to support Portugal.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Do you remember the first team you played for? Yes, obviously I started, I went to my first team is called Infesta. So I went to play there as a futsal player first, but I only got into one training session And they wanted me straight away into the older ones when I ended up playing with people two years older than me because I was still very young to get into the leagues. So I had to play with the ones two years older than me.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And to be honest, it was a very good moment for me because I learned in adversity, being smaller, being less strong than them. And made me more strong mentally to understand that. you're going to have this kind of challenge through your life and you just have to get through them. How old were you at that point when you were... I think I would be around five or six. So in Portugal I think you start playing between seven and eight. Because we have leagues since the first thing you can play.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I think it's under eight around that age. You can start playing already a league. Like it's a local league but basically you have a league. so to play that league or either I would do that or either I would do just like the training sessions on the weekends and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:04:01 and I was lucky enough to get straight into the league and straight into the challenge when you look back on what's already been an incredible career can you pinpoint one turning point one moment that if that hadn't happened
Starting point is 00:04:15 you wouldn't be here now no my change to Italy probably I think that made my my career have a starting point because I was in Portugal I was in Boa Vista where I had my basically my full youth and I was very happy there playing and everything but the the club was struggling a lot to we're in third division at the time not giving
Starting point is 00:04:39 many chances to to the youth players to go through and that was something that we always had in the club young players coming through the club and through the through the academy to make to make their way from the first team at that time that was very difficult to happen I still had two more years in the academy but then I went to Italy and everything happened very quick because I arrived there in July I had to wait for September because I was only making 18 in September so I couldn't play before that because I was underage and I had I don't know like a month two months with the under 21s and then I went straight into the
Starting point is 00:05:18 first team and then from there on start training with them trainings with the youth coming back and forward at my first first game when the team was very very struggling playouts position did very well but the manager at the time said I don't want to burn you out and I think that was the thing the way to care of myself and my my progress as a player was very good because the team was struggling a lot he said like it's not a moment for you to go through I I know you can do it but if something goes wrong you're not gonna play anymore for the team then I was there in and out a new manager came in and he said I like what I
Starting point is 00:05:57 see but I want you to train with us play with the under 21s and then I was lucky my turning point started in around January where right midfielder got suspended I played in this position in the same game left midfield got suspended so right midfield came on I went to left side and then number six got suspended and from there on in three games I played in three different positions but I got my position I played very well in that three games and the manager never never took me off again wow the perfect storm then I was very good and then also as a team we went from the playouts to the playoffs we reached
Starting point is 00:06:36 the semi-finals but unfortunately we couldn't get into the Seria who would you say has had the biggest impact on your career obviously my family in in a whole obviously my my parents growing up was where they didn't never let me think that I wouldn't be able to do something and at the same time they always kept myself on the floor like don't don't think too high and and never think too low so just just put a line there put your dreams above that and then go for that and then obviously when I do my when I did join to with my wife girlfriend at the time she had a little bit of the same as my mom and my dad you know she always kept me very low she was always
Starting point is 00:07:27 very supportive of me but always like just be aware that things can go wrong so just don't don't think too much ahead just think about the moment and what you want for the future but make that the moment will help you to achieve that in the future so she was always very supportive on that she was always she always kept me very humble on the way I have to work on the way I have to do things on the way that I had to behave. And as a family, we always had that from my childhood and then going to pass that to my young kids now. It's amazing because the way I and my wife think is very similar.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So the together that was very good. And then I think Dolin was the one that changed my career in Udinezer because it was another one that he made me play. He made me think about everything I had to do. He made me think, you're playing now. I'm going to rest you. You're going to have to put your head in place. You're going to play next game.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You might not play two games. You might play again. And it made me learn that to get into the top level, you will have to suffer. Which retired player would you love to play against? Against. I would say two. Zidane and Ronaldino. Just because Ronaldingo was one of my first loving football, basically.
Starting point is 00:08:52 make everyone enjoy football love football like it was so fun to watch him play you know like always with a smile in his face in everything you would do so it was just pure pure joy you know as a as a young as a young player that's what most of the times you wanted to see you know like him getting on the ball and being so effective on everything you would do even at the same time being so nice of like a lot of flare and everything but he could do that and being effective at the the same time so it was he had everything you know like and unfortunately for I think for most of my generation he didn't play as long as we wanted to have him playing because it was it was something special what's the hardest thing to do
Starting point is 00:09:34 on a football pitch being consistent I think because I think during 90 minutes let's say we're talking about the football pitch during 90 minutes you have should be so consistent in everything you do that as as Sometimes it goes and slips away from you, it can change everything. So I think consistent in the first thing is consistent of doing whatever you think is the best for the team. Because that has to come first of everything. That you can't do anything without thinking on the team first. Because that has to, in football is what has to come above everything.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Because there's nothing more important than the team. And then it comes yourself to put yourself in the best position to help the team. And when I'm on the pitch, that's the thing that I had most in my head, that the consistent I had to do, my things will help the team to become better. So I have to be the most consistent and accurate player I can be in any moment of the game. Not with the ball, but also without the ball, but also in some things that you have to say to your teammates, when you want to change something in position-wise, changing set pieces has to be accurate because if a little thing change, you can go against you.
Starting point is 00:10:54 That must be something you're immensely proud of then, the consistent levels that you've reached for Manchester United, even during some of the difficult times at this club. No, obviously, you know, like when you come to this club, you know that level has to be really high. You can't drop yourself and as I said, I think my youth and the way I behave myself and my family always put myself in that position of not relaxing, always being in the highest as you can be, Because it's not about what you have done, it's about what you're going to do and what you want to do. Because what you have done is in the past and people will forget it very quick. And even more at this club, you play every three days.
Starting point is 00:11:29 So you need to be very quick into changing your mind already into the next game. And the next thing you have to do to improve yourself, improve the team and help the team to win games. What are you most proud of from your career so far? Everything, because I was a young kid with full of dreams. I never thought that I would achieve as much I have achieved because you don't think about that. You think about playing football, you think about enjoying yourself, you think about playing as much as you can. Because when you're young, you just think about playing football. You want to, obviously you see the television, you see the professionals, you say like, this is where I want to be.
Starting point is 00:12:07 But your thought is, like, my thought at least was just like, I just enjoy play football. I just want to do this for the rest of my life. life. There's nothing else that I know how to do. Obviously, you know to do different things, but there's nothing else that I want to do different than this. And I would say that for me, football was always the main thing and will still always be my main thing until the end of my days, not my career. I want to try and find out a little bit more about Bruno, the person. How would your best friend describe you? I don't know. You should ask him.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I didn't have his phone number, I'm very passionate about everything he does, just that I, in everything I include myself, I just like to go with myself at full, because I don't like to do things at Alph. I don't think you get results when you do something and you're not very into that. You just need to, if you want to do something, it has to be something that you really want. and that's the thing my football experience probably my friend will if any friend of me or even my best friend
Starting point is 00:13:17 if you ask him you will always tell him that for me going full in everything I do it's the main thing and football was the main thing I always wanted to go full for it and I didn't stop
Starting point is 00:13:30 until I could achieve every dream I had and I won't stop until I achieve all dreams I still have so you're like that in every walk of life not just with football in everything What you see on the pitch is what Bruno is like.
Starting point is 00:13:43 The passion I put on everything and then obviously much more calm out of the pitch. I don't have the emotions on the skin as much as I have it on the pitch, but still very passionate and everything he does. And you would say like even friendly games when I play with my friends and stuff, they will tell you that I still want to win them. And that's just the way I put myself in that. you know, like I've changed a little bit because obviously when I go to play with some of friends
Starting point is 00:14:11 they haven't played football for so long that is more a joy moment than a proper game to win you know, but if you put me in something that has a challenge that I want to beat that challenge. You said that you're a bit calmer off the pitch. When were you last nervous?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Last nervous. Do you get nervous? Yeah, a lot of times. I think yeah, the game against walls. I was on the bench, but I get... I think I get more nervous on being on the bench. It's a different feeling for you being on the bench, isn't there? No, I think I get more nervous on being on the bench.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Obviously, luckily for me, and I hope... Not many times I'll be on the bench, but... I get more nervous watching the game. I get, because, you know, like, I basically... I'm basically suffering for my teammates when you see something going against them and they're trying to make something different and it doesn't come. I get very nervous. I'm very, like...
Starting point is 00:15:06 I can be... steady on the bench or or even at home if I have to stay at home and see the game at home I can be like not loud, I need to be loud I need to be active it's like I'm in the game
Starting point is 00:15:18 but I think every game and every game I'm nervous nervous on the sense of getting that good nervous like that I want to be involved in the game like mentally I need to be my head needs to be working
Starting point is 00:15:32 I guess the balance that you learn as a footballer is the right side of nerves being using the nerves positively yeah you need you need to use it in in energy wise you know you need to put that nervousism and energy wise like I would say the game against the Leon was probably the game where I was the most nervous until now also because we knew how much it meant for us so even before the game I was very nervous on the sense I was like I couldn't wait for the game I was like why we like I even spoke with the Masrawi we were speaking the two days before the game and I was like, why the game is not today.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And we wanted to play that game so quick because we wanted so much to give something to the fans, you know, like to give ourselves the chance to be in the semi-final, to be closer, one step closer to the final where we can win a trophy. So it's that good nervous of like we want things to come quick because we want to show that we're able to get into things, get to do something good for us.
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Starting point is 00:17:44 because obviously it didn't go to plan to start with did you get nervous at that point do you get nervous in game no never during the game no before the games i could get nervous during the game i i just think about the the goal we have for for the game that is win the What we have to do. I remember every step that we've trained. I remember every step that my teammates have to do. I remember every position what they have to do. Like when I go to the training session I focus not just on what I have to do but what's around me. Because it could change that I have to play in a different position. It could change that we change something and a teammate is not very aware of where he has to be or in which position he should stay.
Starting point is 00:18:29 On set pieces, everything, I know exactly where everyone has to be. So that's that's, that's The only nervous thing is that it's getting everything into my memory, so I can remember in the game every step. Also when I'm on the ball, I know every movement that my teammates have to do. So to be aware of like I'm on the ball here, so what we trained is this, but obviously you have to think that in a split second. But it gets automatically because I think about that during the week until the game. So when you think so many times about something, your muscle memory. muscle mummer works by itself so I think that's that's the main thing unsurprisingly so far you've related everything back to football you're probably still going to do that with
Starting point is 00:19:10 these next questions but I'll try and get you away from it what's your favorite song my favorite song I don't I don't have one but I would say like the type one of the type of songs that I really like to hear and that's not very common is Fado it's a type of Portuguese song that we have it's part of our history part of what Portugal has brought into the world you know like it's something where people that really like songs they if they go to Portugal they should go to some restaurants where we have live songs of people basically with the chalés you know like black black thing and they sing like basically with big amazing voices and someone with the guitar just behind them
Starting point is 00:19:53 something very very typical in Portugal we have some restaurants like old school restaurants all in hood or stone you know like you get in it's like a cavern and it's it's a place just like to enjoy the food typical Portuguese food and enjoy the moment and the thing that they do is basically is basically a massive show but instead to being on on a big place is in a place where you have probably around 10 tables and around 20 people just watching that enjoying the moment no phones no nothing it's unbelievable and the voices we have in Portugal for seeing that are it's it get it get me goosebumps every time I hear. If you could wear an
Starting point is 00:20:33 invisibility cloak for a day so no one could see you what would you do and where would you go? I would go I would go with my kids wherever they wanted to go because obviously sometimes it's very tough to see with my kids in certain points even if now they aren't they very they're very aware of like people asking for photos and stuff and they already know like when someone asked me for photos they just like they just go apart. The older one gets a small one. She grabs him. They basically stand at me looking at me like, okay, take the photo now we go. Hurry up. But probably it was like, was that. I would go, I would like to go to places where I was going when I was a young kid. I would like to go with
Starting point is 00:21:14 them there again, like without them needed to stop every time something they want to do to to enjoy the time with them. I would go to a beach in Portugal to try to enjoy as much I can with them, but I still do it, to be honest. I'm not a person that gets very annoyed by people taking photos with you. I get more annoyed when people are trying to take photos of you while you're doing something with your kids. I don't mind people asking for photos. That's one of the good things of our work get recognized. In a few years' time, we won't get recognized that much, so it will be fine. So I don't mind people asking for it or kids asking for it. I will do it in any time, any moment anywhere I would do it but obviously for my kids I would like to go to
Starting point is 00:22:02 the beach to some sandcastles and stuff with them without I'm I'm for example my wife is more worried about that I'm I'm a person that does what any any other person will do on a normal life and if someone catch me is doing something that oh Bruno is doing that and put it in the newspaper or whatever I don't mind I'm just I was just enjoying the moment and being happy with my kids doing anything on on any place and even if I have to do something with my friends or whatever is, I won't mind people taking photos so they can't stop wasting their time taking photo, thinking that they're going to make
Starting point is 00:22:35 a big new or whatever that I'm just a normal person living a normal life. I wish I'd asked you this one before instead. How would your kids describe you? That's more difficult. Very tough on them. Yes, because I am like, I think in nowadays we make things much easier for the kids. And as a parent now I obviously do it and I look back when I was a kid and obviously I think most of the things my mom has done to me and my father I was seeing as a punishment and now I see it as a, okay, it was something to make me understand why is the reason for that. And nowadays I think sometimes I make things too easy for them. But at the same time I try to make it as stuff as I can for them to understand that things in life don't come easily. don't come as often as we want or at any time we want.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So every time they want something for themselves, they have to earn it. And I just want to them, I don't want, like, it's not like they want a toy and I will be like, no, you have to work to get a toy. No, it's not that. Because obviously, I'm lucky enough to have the possibility to give them toys or whatever they want to play or whatever, but they know there is moments to get things. They know that it can't be at any time. that they can go to a shop with me and come out without anything. So that was the main
Starting point is 00:24:01 thing that I want them to learn. It's like, now you go to a shop and you get something. It doesn't work that way. But if you behave, if you do the things rightly, if your studies are going well, if you do everything right at school, if any time we ask you to do something, they will do it. They get rewards from that. So even like these days, they were at home and like if you ask my daughter like just do the table for us she would do it without any like getting back to you or everything she enjoys doing she knows why she's doing it as well if you tell them like yesterday we were not two days ago we were in the in the sofa me and my wife and was like already I don't know 10
Starting point is 00:24:45 a.m or like around that time and they were starting to getting like oh we know to do something and said okay have you done your bed no so go obsessed and do your bed and they went both of them they did their bed they know they know they have to whenever we ask them to do it they have to do it for example now when they have school they wake up so early we want like we just tell them just push the things up open the window we'll get some fresh air and then the bed will be done but they know certain things that we like them to do but me I don't know as a father a little bit tough on them but at the same time a very
Starting point is 00:25:19 soft very soft art because it's it's too easy for them to get into my soft side because I'm a very soft person even if it doesn't look like on the beach. I'm a very soft heart. Finally, what is the one thing that you think people who maybe don't know you as well get wrong about you the most? Nothing. People have an opinion about me and I can't change that. It's the way people want to judge you about what they see on most of the people
Starting point is 00:25:49 what they see on the pitch. Some of them what they see on the television. Some of them what they see on interviews. you know I can't change that is they have the freedom to think the way they want about me as I have the same freedom to think about them but what I don't do is like I don't judge people until I know them but you have that a lot and you know like when you have a teammate that comes from another club that they think like oh either either a way of thinking about you there is nothing to do what you likely are and
Starting point is 00:26:21 and probably I have sometimes you have the same with some so it's it's very common that we we judge the players because what we see on the pitch about them you know like and I don't take it wrong it's it's normal it's part of the job and at the same time it's part of life because we judge people in our lives without knowing them sometimes and not always is the the right judge so I can't I can't be mad or like thinking bad about the person that think something about me because they can have an opinion about me and that's fine. We all have different opinions. That's why life is so good and so different because if we all
Starting point is 00:27:04 think the same way, it will be so boring. Thank you so much for your time. You're welcome. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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