Football Daily - Champions League Debrief: Awesome Alisson stars in stunning Liverpool win

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Alisson’s “best performance of his life” helped Liverpool to a stunning 1-0 win at Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League. Where does that leave both sides heading into the second leg at Anfield?Mark Chapman, commentator John Murray and former Liverpool defender Stephen Warnock review the action, and break down Alisson’s outstanding display.Journalist and broadcaster Archie Rhind-Tutt joins the podcast from the Allianz Arena after Bayern Munich’s thrashing of German rivals Bayer Leverkusen.And we’re in San Sebastian to hear from Ruben Amorim as Manchester United prepare for their Europa League last 16 clash with Real Sociedad.TIMECODES 02:00 Alisson’s “best performance of his life” 06:53 Arne Slot’s reaction to Liverpool’s win 09:00 Slot’s tactics and substitutions 20:50 Archie Rhind-Tutt on Bayern Munich 3-0 Bayer Leverkusen 26:00 Conor McNamara previews Real Sociedad v Manchester UnitedCOMMENTARIES ON 5 LIVE/BBC SoundsThursday: Real Sociedad v Manchester United (5:30pm) Saturday: Liverpool v Southampton (3pm) Saturday: Brentford v Aston Villa (5:30pm) Sunday: Chelsea v Leicester (2pm) Sunday: Manchester United v Arsenal (4:30pm)

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Hello, I'm Robin Ince. And I'm Brian Cox. And we would like to tell you about the new series of The Infinite Monkey Cage. We're going to have a planet off. Jupiter versus Saturn. It's very well done that because in the script it does say wrestling voice. After all of that, it's going to kind of chill out a bit and talk about ice.

And also in this series, we're discussing history of music recording with Brian Eno and looking at nature's shapes. So listen wherever you get your podcasts. Music Radio Podcasts. La la indeed. And really it's ridiculous to be able to say it after the match we witnessed in here tonight, that Liverpool lead at the halfway point of this tie ahead of Anfield next Tuesday. PSG beaten for the first time since November in any competition, failing to score in this stadium for the first time this season. And why? Well, largely Liverpool's goalkeeper, Alisson, is why. He had one of his greatest nights in Liverpool gloves. Simple as that. Save after save there was. I would pick out his one-on-one with Dembele in the first half

and a flying stop from substitute Douay in the second, but there were plenty more. PSG had the ball in the net in the first half. The exciting Kavaric-Kelelia was offside though, said VAR. Whether Canarte should have been sent off will be a big talking point. A barge on Bacalar, who was through. VAR had a look and said no, and in the end Harvey Elliott scored the goal. Set up by Darwin Núñez, two of the Liverpool substitutes. Donnarumma got a hand to Harvey Elliott. Very good shot from the right side of the area, but couldn't keep it out.

And so Liverpool have what we should say is another famous win in the Parc des Princes, the place where they won the European Cup back in 1981. They've beaten PSG here for the first time. And you know, Mark, there was a red sky over tonight, and it's turned out to be a red night What's a very poetic end Tearing your eyes Straightly enough no Julie and a lot and Stephen Warnock alongside John in the part they prance

Stephen I've just had a message John in the part they prance. Stephen I've just had a message from Kelly Cates to say that Alison has said that was probably the best performance of his life so I don't know if he said that to Telly or texted her personally but it's the best performance of his life. Wow I mean it was just phenomenal I mean it wasn't one world-class save there was three or four in there I just thought he was outstanding it's one of those games where you're just thinking no matter what they throw at him he's going to save. So yeah, I mean he is at his best, the best in the world for me, I think he's phenomenal and as I said in the commentary

to John, what will Mamadash really be thinking now at Valencia? He's thinking, well I'm meant to replace this guy or try and get in front of him. Big shoes to fill, big gloves to fill. There are so many things that we could get into with him. Partly the fact that his distribution was actually the start of the move for the goal, which shouldn't go unnoticed in all of this. But also you talked about there's nothing flashy about him

he makes the save and gets on with it he doesn't he doesn't remonstrate with anybody and the other thing that struck me I know when certain crosses come in and he has to get a hand on them then he may push them out but the majority of his saves he never pushes back out he always seems to me anyhow to win the main, get them round the post. Yeah, he's superb at his reading situations. There was one in the second half, Jappas, where he allowed the ball to bounce

because he knew then when it bounced up he could get almost a punch to it. And he punched it away as he's diving. I'm thinking the awareness as this is coming into him, that what's around him and how to deal with that situation is quite brilliant and I know he's worked hard with obviously the old golf keeping coach John Akteberg and then he's got Taffarel who's part of the staff here at Liverpool but his decision-making is exceptional doesn't come out into a crowd and really try and catch things because he's he's probably not as tall as most of the goalkeepers and he's punching,, his distribution with, well, his ability to punch the ball a long way.

But that's the big thing is his decision making. But for me, it's those 1v1 situations, the one with Dembele in the first half. Dembele probably thinks, I've got four or five yards on Atlas in here. I can pick my head up, I can take my time. Before he knows it, he's looking, thinking, there's this yellow guy running at me and he's closing the space and he does it so, so quickly. That decision's made very quickly. So I've got some stats in front of me. Total shots, Paris Saint-Germain 27, Liverpool 2. On target, Paris Saint-Germain 10, Liverpool 1. Successful final third passes Paris

Saint-Germain 220 Liverpool 43. That's a myth. Are you alright Jules? Yeah is it my turn to cry after what John said? Yeah well his romanticism at the end. Exactly that's all I needed really to come over after a night like tonight and Very French in a very French Parisian way, yeah, there's one Frenchman. I wouldn't want to upset I mean how really how a great question? I mean dominating is not winning We know I'm sure warning has been in games where he played really well, his team played really well and in the end he didn't win. Tonight is a little bit cruel. I think we can all agree on that. We said before that PSG would give this Liverpool team a good

test. I don't think I've seen this Liverpool side being so dominated in a game. I thought the counter pressing from PHG worked amazingly well. They didn't give them anything. They hardly could do three passes together. But at the end of the day, if you don't take your chances, if you don't score, you could always pay for it. And it's a shame, but it's part of this learning curve for this young team.

Maybe after 85 minutes, even 80 minutes, you said, you know what, it's just not going to happen for us. Let's keep a bit of control, let's not concede, let's get a nil nidro as we see Harvey Elliott being brought back out and by Tsimikas bringing in front of the Liverpool fans who are still here for the subs and him because he came on late to still do a bit of fitness work. And maybe this PSG team could have managed the end of that game a little bit better instead of trying to chase that goal again and again and I know in the end it's a long ball, Marquinhos have been

pretty perfect really tonight but he loses that one challenge there, that one header with Darwin and then for once there's somebody in this Liverpool side that has just a bit of time because otherwise they had no time at no point in this game and hit that goal. Time to get reaction from Paris, here's Arna Slaaf. Yeah, I think when we would have had a draw over here we would have been already the lucky one. And that is clear for everyone. I think they were the much better team today.

Especially in the first half they had a lot of open chances, well, three or four big, big, big chances. In the second half, they were still the better team, still had a lot of shots on target, but they were mainly from outside the box. But I knew before the game and I saw today again how much quality this team has and these individual players have. So all these shots from them from outside the box are with a certain speed that you only see with the top players. We have them as well, but you see them as well.

That's why Alisson still had to make a lot of big saves. We were lucky with the first half that the goal was fractionally offside. I was very happy that in difficult circumstances circumstances over here, the referee wasn't impressed. That's not always in a way games the situation. And yeah, in the end we were already in the game three, four, five times. I felt like we can hurt them in transition, but we didn't. We waited till the last moment and then we hurt them. If you look at the results, we come away really positive.

If you look at the performance, there are two different things. I think Paris Saint-Germain can take a lot of positives towards the game we're going to play in a week. But I can tell you that they're not only going to play against us, they're also going to play against our fans. And we really need them, not only next Tuesday, we need our fans on Saturday against Southampton as well. Because, like you might know, we don't have a winter break in England,

so we just keep on playing for months already and these players are definitely going to need the help of our fans to show up two times as they did in the last few months. One of the things you said pre-match, Stephen Warlock, was the in-game changes of Arna slot against Luis Enrique and that absolutely came to fruition with the changes he made not just the goal score. Yeah it was it was really good and what was interesting was he obviously took Luis Diaz and he put Curtis Jones out onto that left-hand side and you just wondered what the thought process was behind that but

Curtis Jones is very good defensively so he stuck with Hakimi down that right-hand side and he almost took the pressure off Andrew Robertson a bit but what he's brilliant at is just retaining the ball and then when you bring Darwin Núñez on he misses so many opportunities but what he is is he's a he's a handful he's in your eye line he's a big player so now Marquinhos has suddenly got someone who's pinning him who's more difficult to play against from a physical aspect and probably just gave him a little bit of a different challenge. But then you look at what Endo did. Endo came in and he sort of covered the ground, filled in positions when he had to and swept

up when he had to. And then you get the impact of Harvey Elliott. So his in-game changes were very good. Whether they were forced upon him, maybe a little bit of fatigue from players, but maybe that was just Arnott Slott saying that's what we need to do because Curtis Jones probably didn't play as an out and out wide man. When they had the ball he went narrow and they outnumbered them in midfield and then they were able to keep the ball and retain the ball a little bit more and just take a little bit more pressure off the defence. Do you think Luis Enrique was out tactic by slot in that last

half hour or so, Jules? No, no, no, I don't think so. I think PSG was still the better team, even towards the end. I mean, again, Liverpool had one shot on target, that's the goal. That's it, they had one shot in the whole second half and that was so late and that was the goal. I don't think so. I think he should have brought Kyrsten Jones a little bit earlier because he made a difference when he came on. Certainly, Dimitri Macalister Gravenberg, I mean, were outplayed pretty much by Ruiz, Vitinha and Neves for most of that game anyway. But then it made sense, all of it. I think in the end, it's just Darwin being a bit sharper than Mary News on that long ball from Alisson

and then being smart to put that ball, it's an easy ball but still put that ball for Harvey Elia and the goal so I think the plan from a PhD point of view was great, we talked about it before the game the counter pressing, that intensity, the movement consistently, you don't really know they're so unpredictable when they play that well with the ball but Liverpool were still solid with Alisson, especially defensively too. And then in the end, we've seen those games so many times where you don't take advantage of your very strong moments. You don't take your chances and often you get punished for it.

If it had been a draw, we'd have been saying that Liverpool have got away. Absolutely. And when we look back at the game, we're talking about who's Liverpool's best player, who is the man of the match. It was the goalkeeper. It was, yes, it was really good tactics from from Lewis M. Rique, but sometimes you just have games like that where your backs against the wall a little bit. We know that Liverpool have had to put a lot of physical exertion into the last probably four or five games where they've played Aston Villa away, they've played Manchester City, they've played Newcastle at home and it almost felt like that pressure, that relief of almost cementing the league against Newcastle the other day has taken a lot out of them. Whereas

you without being disrespectful, Paris Saint-Germain are cruising games so there isn't that over exertion in games that they're coasting games, they can bring players on and then they can restion in games, they're coasting games, they can bring players on and then they can rest players in games as well. We often talk about the French league being not as... When we watch Paris Saint-Germain we almost say they're not as sharp coming into games. I don't think that Luis Enrique is allowing that to happen, he's keeping them at the absolute maximum,

but he can rotate them a little bit more and keep them a little bit fresher. Even at 0-0 I was starting to think, I'm fascinated, I was fascinated as to how this second leg is going to play out, given Paris Saint-Germain's dominance over Liverpool in this leg, because then of course everything with Anfield and so on and so forth and home advantage plays into that second leg. But then also, you just see the difference in, I think you said it in commentary, Stephen, once Liverpool scored, all of a sudden they looked like

they had legs again. And it will be a fascinating battle in that set because it's most definitely obviously not over. No, definitely not. And the other thing is I've played in games where I've been in Europe and you feel heavy legged in the away game and you feel like it's going to be one of the most difficult games and you're grinding away and then you play them in the second

leg and think, is this the same team we're playing? How are we so poor in the first leg and how were they so good? But the energy that will be bought in Anfield, like it was bought tonight for Paris Saint-Germain, The players feed off that. There's an extra sort of bounce in your step and you've just got that little bit of extra energy. Well, Liverpool will have that next week and it'll be very difficult for Paris Saint-Germain at Anfield because the atmosphere at Anfield next week, especially after this game, they will know there's a very, very impressive team coming to town. Jules? Yeah, I agree with everything you just said.

And you, Chapters, I think this PSG team only plays one way, home or away. Yeah, you can take them back, you can force them to maybe play long because they can't get out of your press, because it's difficult, of course, but they will always try to play. And to be fair, at times tonight,

I didn't really recognize the Liverpool team that we've seen so far this season. You don't do time wasting after 15 minutes when you're Virgin Venday, the best defender in the world. You don't play that often that long. You don't have a Mo Salah so anonymous like he was today, really. So PSG forced them to play like that. It's not that Liverpool wanted to. This is not their game. I expect Liverpool to do the same to Paris at Anfield next week and force them to is not their game. I expect Liverpool to do the same to Paris on field next week and force them to not play their game because Liverpool will be in the faces.

But it's also a lead for Liverpool to have. So they can't just go and attack and attack all the time and maybe leave space in behind. So I think even the way you approach game would be really interesting for PSG, they will go for it. They might lose 3-1 for it because they will give Liverpool spaces, they will attack, they will try to play in their half like they did tonight and it's obviously much more difficult to do away from home

especially in Liverpool than it could be tonight and they might pay for it, but they will go for it for sure. On the Football Daily Podcast, the Champions League debrief. With Marc Chapman. Listen on BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Robin Ince. And I'm Brian Cox. And we would like to tell you about the new series of The Infinite Monkey Cage. We're going to have a planet off. Jupiter versus Saturn. Well, it's very well done that because in the script it does say wrestling voice after all of that. It's gonna kind of chill out a bit and talk about ice. And also in this series we're discussing history music recording with Brian Eno and looking at nature shapes.

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2026 and the offer of extension is on the table and he hasn't signed it yet and I think in Paris we're looking very carefully at what's happening to Ibrahima Konaté too because Marquinhos is 30 and will turn 31 in the summer but tonight I think he will feel okay this this was not our best game him and Van Dijk I mean do you think he should have been sent off and you're monitoring a French media do they think he should have been sent off yeah there was a bit of down certainly on French TV from what I could hear or what people texted me I didn't think it was I just don't I don't think there was

enough I think it was a bit clumsy yeah and Barcawla is so quick and Barcawla goes in front and and we've seen those kind of incidents a lot I just don't think there were as much No, because I love Ibu so I didn't want him to get sent off but obviously for PSG there would have been a huge advantage I just didn't think there was enough in that challenge. I think what did you say Steven during commentary seeing them given? Yeah, definitely. I think it was in that filing cabinet as we've had so many where if it had been given I don't think there would have been too many people complaining about it. Borderline decision and when it went to VAR correctly I think they feel that well the referees had a view of that, that's his decision, there's not

enough to turn it around. And of course in that first half as well finally there was every indication that Paris Saint-Germain had gone ahead until the offside came in with Kovac Scalia when he was a heel offside Jules. Yeah to be fair I was more upset about that goal being ruled out really than the the Konati, Barcola incident and it's offside, it's offside I know even if it's a millimeter, centimeter, there's nothing we can say. Arsene Wenger is trying to push hard for this new rule on offside

where you should have more of a power of the body offside than just a few centimeters with your heel where you don't get any advantage. I don't know if that's the answer. Still gotta draw the line somewhere. Yeah, exactly, I guess you're right, John. But tonight, if you're- Here comes the fun line somewhere. Yeah, exactly. I guess you're right, John. But tonight if you're... Here comes the fun, please. Yeah, always. But if you're a PSG today, a PSG fan, you're thinking this, a goal like

this where you don't get any advantage of being a centimetre offside is a bit harsh. If you're Liverpool, you say, well, this is the rule. And rightly so. This is offside, even for a centimetre goal. Goal disallowed. It's one of those where tonight I think PSG could have played for another two hours, they just wouldn't have scored. And at the end they started lacking creativity, lacking ideas, you could see it was a bit predictable and Liverpool took advantage. Thank you very much Jules, see you soon. Tell you what Stephen, when he's in full flow he is great to watch isn't he, Kevin Scalier?

Yeah, he's a defender's worst nightmare as well because he can go both ways. I mean, you look at the quality that he's got, it's just simply brilliant. He's breathtaking at times. He looks effortless when he carries the ball, such a danger. I was very surprised that Liverpool didn't go in for him in January. I thought for the price that was being asked for him at 24 years of age I thought that's the future of Liverpool on the wings I think there's question marks probably over Luis Diaz at the football club what would he have done at long term I think he can play in that number 10

position as well so I thought it would have been a really shrewd signing from Liverpool. 70 to 80 million euros is what PSG played for him. Lewis Enrique has said, my feeling right now is that it's difficult to think about the match in a positive way, we deserve to win. The best player of Liverpool was their goalkeeper. Football is many times unfair. I feel proud of the players and the team, we don't have anything to lose when talking about the second leg. We are ready for Liverpool, of course we are going to do it. We talked a lot Mark about how you know Liverpool were they unlucky to have drawn Paris Saint-Germain but I think if you look at it from the other point of view you know Paris Saint-Germain have got what that you know

have reaped what they sold by losing matches in the league phase and and I think this is another example of people learning about what you have to do in this new look Champions League. So elsewhere, Feyenoord nil into two and Benfica nil, 10 man Barcelona won. Barcelona reduced to 10 midway through the first half. Rofinha getting the Barcelona goal. And in the all-German tie, Bayern 3, Bayer Leverkusen 0, Leverkusen reduced to 10 in the second half as well. Two goals for Harry Kane, Moussiala with the

other, Archie Rintout is at the Allianz Arena for us and it really couldn't have gone much worse for the German champions champions could it Archie? No exactly Mark and I think that's the surprising element of it in that Xabi Alonso had been unbeaten against Bayern Munich with Bayer Leverkusen in six previous games and the fact that it was so tame from Leverkusen they had one chance at 1-0 when Jeremy Frimpong went through on goal, but he had real problems with one-on-ones, and this was a similar incident with Manuel Neuer.

And the fact is, Noddy Mukele getting sent off in the second half made Xabi Alonso pull a face that I've not seen such concern from him during his time at Bayer Leverkusen because he knew that they would do well to get out of Munich with the score still being at 2-0. That Bayer Munich produced such a statement performance when, let's not forget, the final is here in Munich at the end of the season. There is huge pressure on Vincent Kompany to push the team towards that. He's been consistently saying, trust the process, I trust my players. And tonight he was repaid in that faith that he's been showing. That Michael Elise came up with a big performance that Harry Kane,

not just with a penalty, but also with a big header and off the ball. Superb tonight. Another big performance from him. I think it was a result that really spoke volumes for readjusting the power balance that Bayern Munich like the most in German football which is them being firmly on top. I mean at one stage you wondered whether Leverkusen could get away with just the 1-0 but then when the goalkeeper drops the ball to give Musiala the second and then it's a penalty for the third there have been the architects of their own downfall as well.

Exactly. And I'm sure a few people in Leverkusen will also be wondering, well hang on, why was Matej Kováš playing this game? And the fact is Xabi Alonso likes to rotate his goalkeepers. He's done it in 10 of the last 13 games in all competitions. So it's no surprise. And yet there was a moment in the first half when Mario Hermoso was trying to tell him to speak up a bit more and be a bit more commanding of his area. So it was coming in a way. And he has had uncertain moments even in their only Bundesliga defeat over the course of the last two seasons against Leipzig earlier in the campaign. He didn't cut the most confident figure either. So look, they have, as you say, been the masters of their own downfall. It was a return to the kind of Leverkusen that we can't expect before

Xabi Alonso joined the club and it makes you realize that just how good they were last season and to expect them to go deep into the Champions League, that wasn't necessarily an expectation, I think, that was there from the higher-ups, but it was an expectation that Xabi Alonso has been putting on his players. And as it stands, I think I put their chances about five or 10% for the second leg. It will be very difficult, but three goals, we've seen that done in the Champions League before. Bayern needed that, didn't they? After their performances against Celtic, they needed that with, as you say, the final in their own stadium is a big thing for them.

They did. And that Jamal Musiala, whose future has been up in the air for so long, contract was up at the end of the season until he signed this bumper new deal. For him to put in such a good performance as well is a real good sign when on the other side is Florian Witt. Now traditionally when Bayern Munich are about to play a big game against a German opponent, suddenly all these stories start cropping up about the best players of the other team wanting to go to Bayern. And that had happened before this game as well, that Florian Wirtz wanted to join Bayern in the future.

And that Moussiala put in a more notable performance than Wirtz in this game, I think, will also be something that is so encouraging to Moussiala, who had had supervisory board member Karl Heinz Rummenigge saying, well, I think Wirtz is the best player in Germany right now. And I think Moussiala would have been thinking, hang on, you weren't saying that before I signed my contract, were you? So I think it's encouraging from Bayern for that perspective. You think of the big defeats they've had in the Champions League so far this season as well against Barcelona, not by such a big scoreline, but a shock to them, what happened

against Aston Villa and against Feyenoord in the group phase. And yeah, as you mentioned, Celtic was not their most famous moment either, but they've come through this and in past seasons, Bayern have tended to not actually be good when it comes to the business end of the competition, shining in the group phase. So perhaps they are learning to time their run a little bit better. Archie, thank you very much. Archie Rintut in the Allianz Arena, where Bayern are beaten by Leverkusen 3-0. Tomorrow night Manchester United away to Real Sociedad in the first leg of their last 16

time Europa League. Conor McNamara will be there for us. Well things are very tranquil here in beautiful San Sebastian in northern Spain. This all feels very far from the pressure cooker atmosphere of Old Trafford where Sunday's FA Cup defeat at home to Fulham brought to an end any hopes that Reuben Amer might have had of redeeming a poor debut season in charge of Manchester United by winning that competition as of course his predecessor Eric Ten Hag managed to do last year. Winning the Europa League is now Manchester United's only chance of getting the important income stream that is European football

for next season and I'm talking to you now from inside the stadium here which very much has the feel of an Iberian venue. You'd imagine that Ruben Amorim will feel very much at home in these surroundings tomorrow. It's a modern style venue, one that they hope will be a host stadium for the World Cup in 2030 and I think being back this close to his native Portugal brings into focus Amorim's system of play, which, as we all know, brought him such success, such admiration in Portugal. But it's a system that's been a real slow burner in taking off

with these new players. Amram stressed a couple of times in the press conference this evening that he's not going to change the formation. He says the system is not the problem. So here is the Manchester United manager about how he is juggling this difficult balance now of Manchester United requiring results in the here and now with also the need to look at the bigger picture. I think it's not the crucial thing for the future of the club. That is my view and I'm here for three months and I think that is

clear but I understand is a massive difference in our season. Especially because we are out of the Cubs in the bad position in the league that could change a lot of things even the way they see the coach. So I know that is a massive pressure but I will say it again Manchester United can have that that can call all the best players even without Champions League in the future. We have to change a lot of things and we're trying to do that. So I think that there is more important things than win cups in this moment. That is my feeling, but I understand that winning Europa League can change everything for us in the next season.

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