Football Daily - In Focus with Alisson and Joe Hart

Episode Date: September 29, 2024

In this special episode of the Football Daily, former England goalkeeper Joe Hart travels to Liverpool to meet Alisson Becker for an exclusive deep dive into life as a goalkeeper - both on and off the pitch. They discuss their love of the sport and the constant challenges of how to improve in the game. Alisson lets us in on his motivations and the inspiration that he has received from his faith and family, and opens up about the passing of his father.Alisson also speaks about how he has adapted into becoming one of the leaders in this current squad alongside Virgil van Dijk, Mo Salah, Trent Alexander-Arnold and Alexis Mac Allister. He also praises the work that has been done so far by the new head coach Arne Slot and what has changed for them since Jurgen Klopp left the club.

BBC Sounds Music, Radio, Podcasts The Football Daily Podcast Listen on BBC Sounds Hi Football Daily I'm Joe Hart and I'm here at Liverpool's training ground

and I'm lucky enough to be interviewing the great Alison Becker really looking forward to it I'm a huge fan of him as a goalkeeper and as a person. First time I've been to the training ground,

very, very, very impressive. So I feel very lucky and I hope you enjoy. The Football Daily Podcast on BBC Sounds. Okay, so Alisson, thank you very much for your time. It's my absolute honour to meet you and interview you, so thank you for this. Firstly, how are you? How are you feeling? Yeah, first of all, it's a really pleasure to be here,

sit with you and chat a little bit. Big fan, by the way. Yeah, I feel well, I feel well. Starting the season really good for the team, for me individually as well. It was really important the first games, having a short pre-season because of the Copa America, short break and then starting playing the Premier League, having good results, changing manager,

all these kind of changes that can affect a little bit your way of play. But I'm glad that everything went in a really good direction. Still looking forward to the rest of this season because I feel really good. You look good. You look fresh. I was was doing my research really interested to learn about you I'm a big fan of you as a goalkeeper um I noticed growing up your mother she loved to play handball right your father was a amateur goalkeeper your brother five years your senior sounds like he's an incredible goalkeeper too and i think when i was young i made the decision did you have a choice i didn't have a choice but i really choose to be a goalkeeper i really like it to be honest my brother as he was a goalkeeper already he knew how hard you need to work to be a goalkeeper and then he told me no no go play striker play midfielder

plays somewhere else but not not a goalkeeper you're gonna suffer too much i did one session as a midfielder and then i said no it's not for me i always enjoy watching him between the poles diving a lot making saves and even if i have my my parents and my brother as role models for being a goalkeeper, I choose the position as well. And I really love to be a goalkeeper. Today's modern goalkeeper, you have, I think, more fun. Play with the feet as well. But yeah, I love the position.

I love the way we have to work hard. All the aspects that involve being a goalkeeper. how focused you need to be how disciplined you have to be sometimes even if you play for a team as a team you looks like you are alone by yourself so you are the last man sometimes you cannot make mistakes usually you cannot make mistakes because you pay high price for that so i love everything about the position well it was a great decision so i'm interested okay so i'm a father now and i have a son and i'm the same as your brother i gave him the same advice but i love it i love the position but i know what it takes to be a goalkeeper what's your

advice to your children yeah it's pretty much the same i said to to my son to mateo he's five years old now elena is not too much on football and she's seven years old and rafael is three years old so i have three kids and they like to be on the goal when they play with me for me kicking balls at them. Mateo loves that, loves divings and everything. Do you see talent? I can see a little bit. He's tall, he's strong.

He has the body for being a goalkeeper. But I want them to have fun now. He started a little bit at school, playing some football three times a week. Er hat ein bisschen Schule begonnen, hat drei Mal pro Woche Fußball gespielt. Ich möchte, dass sie es genießen, wenn sie Fußball spielen. Was auch immer sie tun, möchte ich, dass sie es genießen. Und dann, vielleicht in der Zukunft, werde ich sie unterstützen. Weil ich diese Entscheidung gemacht habe.

Ich weiß, wie wichtig eine Entscheidung für eine Person ist. Und wenn sie es wählen, werde ich es akzeptieren. Eu sei o quão importante é a decisão de uma pessoa. E se eles escolherem, eu aceito, mas eu adoraria ter um golpista na minha família. Sim, eu também, mas ele foi contra mim, ele é um goleiro, então essa é a minha vida agora, eu sou capaz de apoiar. Então você falou sobre seu irmão e seu pai, muito inspirador para você. Crescendo no Brasil, quem eram seus ídolos? Era simplesmente goleiros ou outros jogadores? Brazil who were your who were your idols growing up was it just simply goalkeepers or was it other sports people I think as Brazilians we have a lot of people in sports really good people we have Ayrton Senna really someone that inspires a lot of Brazilians during the history growing up we had Ronaldinho Gaúcho Ronaldo Fenomeno all these guys inas no futebol que fizeram muito sucesso nos anos 2000,

no início dos anos 2000. Então, naquela época eu estava assistindo muito futebol, assistindo para eles. Então eles são uma inspiração para todos os brasileiros, inclusive para mim. Mas quando eu escolhi ser um goleiro, eu comecei a olhar mais para os goleiros. included. But when I chose to be a goalkeeper, I started to look more to the goalies. And I can say I have three names apart from my brother. He is, I think, my biggest inspiration, the person that I look the most. He is my whole model as a goalkeeper, as a man, as a human being, as a father as well, marido, ele é um ótimo cara. Mas se eu pudesse dizer, eu adoro muito Buffon.

Eu estou com você. Eu acho que você concorda. Tafarel, claro. Para mim, como brasileiro, ele é uma legenda, ele é um cara que nos deu tanto prazer, tanto alegria. legend he's a guy who gave so much for us so much joy even if if i was too young when he won the the the world cup in 1994 i remember yeah but i remember i have a lot of memories of the the 1998 world cup yeah so he's saving penalties on the semi-finals this kind of stuff great memories in family we gathered together to watch the the national team playing so it was a special moment so he is the the other one and and manuel neuer another guy that for a mother goalkeeper he is a big inspiration for me and for all the goalies but i always like it to

to look to all the goalkeepers to see what they do so well, so good, to try to bring my game to my style. Okay, so I agree. Some incredible goalkeepers there. But I'm away from the game now. And I can tell you, you are now, you're a modern-day idol. People will sit in that seat and be interviewed about goalkeepers. And they'll say, I love the way Alisson plays. So being a modern day

Alisson, your style, your one-on-ones, I never thought processed the way that you do your one-on-ones, the way you kick the ball, the way you move, the way you act. How have you developed into the goalkeeper you are today? Sometimes people ask me, explain me how you do do your 1v1s, what do you do? I think it's just some inner thing. Of course, the main part is hard work. I always like to improve, to be better, to beat even myself. I do a season that is my best season so far. The next season, this is the standard I have to go further. And to do that, I have to work. So I always like to work a lot to visualize me, to watch the games, to watch my moves and what I try to do is focus a lot on positioning. I think it starts as well in positioning, good positioning. If you have a good

positioning you are one step in front of the opponent because as a goalkeeper the biggest part of the moments you have to react but if you can act before react is better so I always try to be in a good position that I can instead of just react I can act towards the ball. I try to read the game as well, to read the striker, to look at him, to look at the movements he's doing, no matter who has the ball. I try to stay always focused, always looking to the ball. I think all these kind of things makes me move the way I move and play the way I play. And obviously the move I had coming here to Liverpool, coming to Europe, from Brazil to Europe,

brings me a lot of the way I play with the feet. Because here in Europe, all the teams, they want to play from the back. And Liverpool mainly. So it demanded to me to be a good goalkeeper with my feet. So I had to work hard hard to train hard for that and uh I think was pretty much looks like a lot of things but was for me was a natural thing just training just trying to improve uh and also looking to buffon to to Neuer to tafareafarel, to Johart, and not trying to beat them, but taking what you guys had the best,

bringing to my game, but in my way, in my style, in the way I like to play. I have a lot of fun the way I play, so I feel much joy playing football the way I play. Yeah, when I watch you I see someone who... I know that you've done the hard work. I know that when you come onto the pitch you see every situation differently and what really strikes me, especially in the 1v1, is your timing. Everybody thinks of Alisson timing is when you're right over the top of the ball like this but you also have a plan if people shoot early you're set you can make reactions that that's a really natural thing but it doesn't look

like you've just relied on that you know is there certain reaction work I know you make the block but when somebody's six seven yards how do you train to to be in the position for your hands and your in your in your feet to be so quick yeah then is i think is is the the way you you train is not only train hard but you have to train with intensity trying to improve the speed the this the speed reaction so i have to say that i always that i was lucky that i always have good goalie coaches back in Internacional. I was really, really good two goalie coaches, Daniel Pavard and Durge Vidal. They pretty much grew up with me in the youth team. And after we met at the first team, so really good.

They prepared me well. When I arrived at Roma, I had a really good goalie coach as well, Marco Saborani, who helped me a lot, made me improve a lot on these kind of things of action, not only reaction, but attacking the ball, attacking the ball, these kind of things, I I tried to pick it up,

all the small details, all the things that can make a huge difference. So to attack the ball, I have to be quick. I have to be fast. I have to be ready. So mixing the Brazilian school with the Italian school was a really good mix for me. And then I came to Premier League

with John Archamburg and with Jack Robinson they bring a lot of things to my game as well here I improve a lot my 1v1 because we had so many 1v1 situations during the game maybe at Roma wasn't too much 1v1s but here more one of you want so we work a lot on that on this kind of things but always with the right intensity you know how it is you have to come you have to commit to do always a hundred percent when you are training so if your goals every day just 80 percent in the game you'll not be ready so you're gonna pay a high price for that so i think i can react quick because the way i train the intensity and all this the mix-ups that i have and then now i have

tafa that i met with him in the national team we are working together since 10 years i think in the national team we have the opportunity to work here together in Liverpool. It's really good for me bringing his experience, the way he likes to work. Now Fabian came in, we are still managing, adapting to each other. But he's a guy who brings a lot of energy, a lot of good things on my game as well. And yeah, I think the best is still to come. I love that. And your relationship with Taffarel, it feels very unique. I watched a recent interview where you guys were discussing

your thoughts on goalkeeping. It was in Portuguese, but the translation was fascinating. And what I noticed, you finish each other's sentences. You know, you're so in sync with each other so he's your friend he's somebody that you've brought into work with how do you manage the dynamic to still push each other because I'm sure you push him just as much as he pushes you yeah yeah I think it is really natural from the beginning sometimes when you when you have good friends you don't need to speak to push each other you just have to act i like to work hard he knows that and he likes to work hard i

know that i think is the our problem is that we don't push too much that we sometimes we have to control a little bit the the sessions but we have a really good relationship as friends and it doesn't makes us more soft to each other it makes us harder to each other and he's not the kind of guy that we're gonna come to me and look to this at this game you you didn't make what i said to you to make no he's a really cool guy he would say maybe sometimes uh ah, that goal you concede. Maybe your positioning could be different. Maybe you could wait a little bit more to act towards the ball, towards the striker. You move too early.

Those small things, but we understand each other just in the way we look to each other and we know. So he's a guy who helps me a lot, not only talking, but the way we we look to each other and and we know so he's a guy who helps me a lot not only talking but the way he acts he's a whole model as a person and having him working on my side is i'm so lucky i'm so lucky for that i i can see that i can see you know a lot of passion in that relationship. So next month, 32, very young for the position that you are, fresh, you look incredible physically, but you've done a lot. You've done a lot in the game, you've achieved a lot. What drives you? What's next? What more can you push? How can you get better? It's weird when you say, but my main motivations are not the prizes, are not the trophies. Those are not my main motivations.

So my motivations come from inside. My faith in God makes me work harder and work better. I want to be the best in what I do because I really believe that everything I do is a way to praise God. So I'm really glad that I achieved so many trophies here at this club and at the other clubs that I played. Individual awards as well, it makes me happy, don't get me wrong, but my motivation comes from inside when I look to my family and when I see everything everything I get from football the opportunities I get so I grew up in a small city back in Brazil called Novo Hamburgo and here I'm living at Liverpool. I lived in Rome before. I travel all around the world.

I play for the national team. So I'm so, so, so lucky to have this kind of things. And I have this because I play football. Otherwise, I don't know what I would going to do. I wouldn't be successful in other things. But I'm so glad of the things that happen in my life. And those are my my motivations so this moves me forward and also the challenges that we have here at this club

as a team the goals we have the things that we can achieve this moves me as well so as long as i i have power in my mind and in my body, I will still be playing and doing my best. Because what I want to do is always give my best, no matter the result. The result will be a consequence, the trophies and the achievements will be a consequence of what you do before that. So I want to still be playing, feel the joy of playing football. I still feel that it's a quite long journey. 100%. It's interesting, as a proud man of faith, the position that you play, that I used to play, do you feel that helps you in the up and down life of a goalkeeper because you're not just a goalkeeper

the footballer i feel like you're a goalkeeper in terms of you you're a protector you want people to do well do you feel that your your faith helps you to deal with the ups and downs of life at the top yeah i do i'm pretty sure of that my faith My faith is not something that I use to pray for getting things or for being a better human being, but is, I don't know how to express in words, but is a philosophy of life, is a way of life. Christianity is this, we tentando copiar Jesus, nós estamos tentando copiar tudo o que ele fez e nós estamos tentando ser como ele. Então, quando eu tenho esses deslizamentos, que é a carreira de um futebolista, mas principalmente para jogadores, but mainly for goalkeepers when you make a bad mistake or when you're not so feeling so good

and you still have to perform my faith push me forwards i open my bible i can read a psalm and giving me strength that i'm not alone in this club i think we have this the sentence that is really prophetic sentence you never walk alone and that's it is always a reminder for me uh that the people are on my side uh but also God is on my side so for sure my faith uh moves me forward uh in the bad moments push me forward in the bad moments but also keeps my foot on the ground when everything is going well. Yeah, and you'll never walk alone. It's such a special sentiment. And I think back to the West Brom goal.

That was incredible. I loved that moment just because technically it was perfect. It was perfect. But your interview after the game that you gave in English was one of the most heartfelt interviews I've ever watched. And you talked about, I know it was a very difficult time for you, but you talked about the footballing world supporting you. How do you reflect on that moment in time? You know, I don't want to go into the personal side of things. I respect that too much but um it really it made me feel

good because i see the good in people and when you talked about the various clubs and the fans getting in touch with you how special was that in such a difficult moment yeah i don't have problem to talk about that is it was a really hard moment for me for my family i miss my dad so hard, so hard. I miss him every day. But again, it's my faith and the one I believe gives me power to go through this situation, to still keep on going in my life in the right way. But the love I felt from the club, from the supporters, from the manager, from Jurgen, from the players, was incredible. For sure, I take everything into faith

because for me, everything is involving all about faith in God. But for me, I felt the love of God through these people. The messages from supporters, from people I never met, to Infantino, to important from from the world of football from seferovic from even managers from other clubs they send me letters they send me words they send send their love and it was a really difficult moment for the world as well yeah was during the the cold pandemic so that makes me as well not putting myself in a in the victim zone because okay why me why with me but when you look around so many people was struggling a lot losing their their loved ones i didn't lose for for the same reason but it was a loss, a big loss. But I felt so much love.

And in that interview, I tried to express what it meant to me at that time. And I will always be thankful for that. Always. You did an incredible job. You really did. The Football Daily Podcast on BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Greg James. He's Felix White. Hello. And that is England's greatest ever bowler, BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Greg James. He's Felix White.

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So I love it. That's Tailenders listen now on BBC Sounds. Go well. The Football Daily Podcast on BBC Sounds. Speaking about representing this incredible football club I feel like your role has changed a little bit recently from an outside looking in the likes of James Milner, Jordan Henderson leaving the club yourself and Virgil van Dijk are very much the leaders of Liverpool Football Club.

How much responsibility do you take integrating the players, the new players, even the new staff, in letting them know how important it is to play for this football club? Yeah, I'm committed to this club 100% and I think that involves how to be part of this leadership group. Me, Virgil, Robbo, Trent, Mo, Maca now is someone that is bringing his experience as well. He's young, but achieved so many things already. And that brings him to a standard of good leadership. The way he thinks as well helps a lot.

But we have a lot of young players, new players coming in, old players going out, the staff, completely new staff. So when we change, not everything was going wrong. When everything is going wrong, you just change and you forget the past and you go to the new. But the challenge for us, taking the good things, keeping the good things, passing these good things to the staff and to the players who were coming in that we had here already and embracing the good stuff that the new staff are bringing to us as well and trying to keep the balance between the players inside the environment. So that was a big challenge for this leadership group.

And I really believe that we are doing quite well. Nobody here tries to do its own things. I don't try to be the main leader. Virgil, even if he's the captain, he doesn't try to be the the main leader he is sometimes I am sometimes Robo is sometimes Mo is sometimes we are sharing the responsibility so makes everything easier for everybody and always we are trying to to say to the young players that they need to step up as well not only myself to maybe to go to the place that Mili was occupying and handle but they now needs to be the new Alisson Becker the new Virgil van Dijk because before we were like more technical leaders and we were kind of leaders on the pitch

so we don't do anything alone we work as a team and here we have a great environment and uh I think that means a lot as well it comes a lot from what the club is what the club is this club is special the people who work sitting inside they are special and they gave us so good environment so we just focus on playing football and do our best. Yeah, I can see that. And with a new head coach, you look like you had an incredible relationship with Jurgen and as a team you did incredible things. But time keeps moving, right? The world keeps moving. Arne Schlott, I love the way he's coming from an outside point of view. He looks like he really wants to improve his players.

He doesn't want to improve what's happened. He wants to improve his players and the team. How have you found working with him in the early months? I'm finding fantastic because we see that. We see that he wants to improve the players. And doing that, he's improving the team. So he's trying to take the best out of everyone, every individual individual and making

us better we were good before and we were great before at some time but we get to a point that we needed to to have this extra push Arne is bringing to us this new energy he's bringing us not not only energy but knowledge his knowledge on football he's a really smart manager really smart head coach and he's helping us a lot you can see from the way we are playing now i think everybody is seeing that also his staff like to work hard and they are showing to us that their way to do things is the best way that we we can have now so we are committed to that uma maneira de fazer as coisas é a melhor maneira que podemos ter agora. Então, estamos comprometidos com isso, estamos comprometidos com o plano e o plano, nós jogadores, estamos vendo que é um bom plano. Estou muito feliz com a direção que tudo está indo.

Temos que continuar empurrando, ainda temos muitas coisas para melhorar como time, como indivíduos também, Keep pushing. We still have a lot of things to improve as a team, as individuals as well. But we are in the right direction. It's early in the season. We have a big gap, I think, to reach our best. But we are doing well so far and we will keep working on things that we can improve. Sounds good. So I'm going to move over to the Brazil national team and me personally as a goalkeeper. To see the levels that Brazil has, yourself, Edison,

you know, both 31 years old. I want to know how have you guys worked together through the years? Because I'm sure you came across each other very early, different styles, but both leading the way. Do you learn from each other? Do you pick up on things that he does? I have no doubt that he picks up on you. And how does the dynamic work?

Because ultimately you want that number one spot, you want to play for your national team, but I can see that both of you have got so much respect for each other. How's that dynamic? how's that relationship yeah ederson is a fantastic guy hard workers as well as me and in the national team we have a really good relationship sometimes we cross each other at the school our kids to study at the same school but our main relationship is in the national team and I think as a goalkeeper when you work with the best you're gonna be better for sure, only because you are working together with that person and I can say from my side

that I really like the way Ederson, his composure, how he is cool with the ball at his feet. And I saw that in my game, sometimes I was too concerned when I have the ball that I didn't think clear. So when I look him playing, I can see, oh, this is the way I have to play. I have to be cooler with the ball in my feet, even if I am under pressure. So that's something that I try to get from him, for sure. But the way he works as well, the way his style is a really good goalkeeper.

But as I said before, I don't try to be other ones. I try to be myself and taking the good things and bring them to my game. And yeah, I think in a way we push each other because I see him doing well and I know I have to do better. He sees me doing well and he knows I have to do better. And it's a healthy competition, we push each other and it's the best for the national team.

Yeah, I agree. You talked about your mind and sometimes you look at Edison. I experienced that personally when the game started to change. I felt like I had a plan, and if somebody moved, then it affected me. But that was just learning, you know, because football develops. How have you adapted as football's developed? You talked about coming over to Europe, and especially at Liverpool, with the way that it's changed in the last three or four years,

I think strongly, a lot. How have you adapted? And you talked earlier about it's a lot more enjoyable role to play, but it's more difficult now because you need to be good at everything. How have you developed to the training? Are you a goalkeeper now that trains a lot with the players? Because at the start of my career, I trained on my own. Then we did games. And towards the end, it was very fluid,

sometimes with the team, sometimes out. How have you enjoyed that transition? Yeah, that depends a lot on the manager. If he demands me to be with the team, I will be with the team. But I like to focus on myself, to working technically with the team i will be the team but i like to focus in myself to working technically uh with the goalie coaches even for the the the drill with the with the fits i like to do with them sometimes uh we play two touches with the team i think at the beginning i had to do a lot of that playing small games rondos yeah that that brings you the the the quick quick thinking and you are always under pressure

always have to to make quick decisions what you said before is not just uh you cannot just have a plan in your mind because if the pieces they move you're out of game so i did a little bit of rondos. Today, I'm more focused on specific goalkeeping things. And even the games are a way to train as well. We have a lot of games in front of us. So we don't have too much time to train anymore. But during the preseason, we do a lot more with the feet. When Arne came in, he brings the goalies to train a lot with the feet because it was something he wants to improve a little bit in our team, not going

too much with directions, but playing more from off the floor and on the floor, trying to build up more from behind to get up in front so it demands from me from the other goalkeepers as well to train more with the team with the feet and that was pretty much how how I adapt but as I said before is a lot of mental game you have to be cool you have to waste the right time to pass not too long not waiting too long not playing too early you have to be focused concentrated and and doing the right things you talk about the the schedule the games and i know you you spoke in your press conference about how you feel about that but i'm interested and i know a lot of people are interested what does a what does a day in the life of Alison look like two days

before the game so we're not focusing on the game we train how does your day play out I wake up early with my kids yeah jumping on my neck yeah my youngest one doesn't let me sleep much in the morning. Sometimes my wife helps me with that when I need to rest. When I come back late from a game, I need to sleep a little bit more. But my day is pretty normal. I wake up, have breakfast with my kids, what I like to do, bringing them to school, coming to training work hard having lunch here at training ground usually i i have lunch here with the guys that have lunch here as well then

i go back to my house have a time with with my wife drink a mate yeah we love matthew sometimes going picking up the kids at the school if we have time then coming back training a little bit i train i like to train at home as well doing some gym base works right and going back to eat again i think play a lot with my my kids training sessions are are double for me now yeah the boys are playing a lot of football all day long but yeah it's pretty my routine is pretty pretty much that and obviously when you start to get closer to the games you it depends a lot on how much time do you have how long do we train here but the time free i have i like to spend with my family. They are my priority.

On days off, I like to do my barbecue. Sometimes I post pictures on Instagram. They are really good. They look good. Yeah, pretty much. That's pretty much. Okay, my last question. Your love of music, your skills on the guitar. I love that side of football.

I think it's incredible when new songs are made and credit to Liverpool, I think the songs are unbelievable. And the atmosphere in the Kop sometimes is second to none. Being a musician, but obviously being focused, how does it make you feel when you hear that music, when you hear the songs about the team? I know you sing them in your head. How does that make you feel being part of something that

not only you love the football club but the the whole atmosphere of anfield must must feel special that's special for sure special i think the anthem before the every match is a special moment you never get used to that it's something that brings you a boost of energy. And what I said before about you never walk alone, that is the message that you need. That you are not alone when things are not going the direction you want. During the game, the supporters are there pushing you, supporting you. And it starts affecting your life as well.

The way you see things, it starts to change as well. e isso começa a afetar a sua vida também. A maneira como você vê as coisas começa a mudar também. Então, jogar para este clube é realmente especial, sempre será especial e eu estou muito grato que eu possa jogar aqui, que minha família possa viver aqui, que meus filhos poss podem crescer nesse ambiente, eles podem experimentar esse tipo de coisa, sempre que eu posso trazer alguma família ou amigos do Brasil, quando eles vêm para o Anfield, eles dizem, uau, isso é algo que eu nunca vi na minha vida antes,

e nós temos atmosferas muito boas na América do Sul, com os apoiadores, mas o Anfield é um lugar especial, And we have really nice atmospheres in South America with the supporters, but Anfield is a special place. I never get used to that. It's always special. Brilliant. Well, thank you. That was incredible. Thanks, Marcel.

Thank you very much. You were a beast, Tom. Thank you, sir.