Football Daily - Karel Prince: Lie Detector - Brian McClair

Episode Date: July 22, 2026

Football knowledge - Karel and Anita interrogate every detail before Brian McClair returns to reveal which story is genuine. It’s football folklore, detective work and plenty of laughs, with one sim...ple question at the heart of every episode: can you spot the lie? Karel Prince: Lie Detector is presented by Karel Prince & Anita Abayomi and is a Sport Social Studios production for BBC Sounds.Credits Series Producer: Matt Tasker Technical Producer: Tom Hinckley Assistant Producer: Jason Kavuma Executive Producer: Jim Salveson Photography: Tom Barker Artwork: James Mobbs Original theme music: WIZZFX Commissioning Executive for BBC: Stevie Middleton Assistant Commissioner for the BBC: Steve Trenchard

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. How did a boycott Jimmy become a billionaire from posting videos? On Good Bad Billionaire, we're going to find out how the world's most popular YouTuber, Mr Beast, made his fortune. He's buried himself in a coffin for days. Counted to 100,000 on camera. And even recreated squid games, all in an attempt to go viral on the internet. But it all started when he gave a homeless man $10,000. So is he a philanthropist, reshaping capitalism?
Starting point is 00:00:30 Or is he just the king of the attention economy? Find out on Good Bad Billionaire. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, people, I'm Correll Prince, full-time auditor of Football Tales, Timeline Inspector, and now the BBC's resident football fact checker. This is my new podcast, Correll Prince, lie detector. Before the football season returns and while your usual Football Daily presenters take a well-earned break after the World Cup, myself and Anita Abio Me will be putting footballing tales to the test
Starting point is 00:01:02 to see if we can spot the truth from the lies. To never miss an episode, make sure you're subscribe to football daily. Listen on BBC Sounds and watch on YouTube. Yes people, welcome to lie detector with me, Karel Prince. And me, Anita Abime. We are the new resident fact checkers here at the BBC. Every week we will be bringing you stories from the wonderful world of football, free to be exact from ex-professional footballers,
Starting point is 00:01:30 two will be lies, one will be the truth, and we will use our detective and analytical skills to try and weed out the truth from the lies. You ready to get into this? Yes, I'm so excited. Oh, what have we got in this case file today? BM. BM?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Hmm, you got any ideas who it might be? Whoa. Who's a famous BM? Do you know any famous BMs? Benme. Benme. Benme. Benley.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Current player? Current player. That would be nice. Could be Brian and Bramon. Brian and Bramow. Okay, Brian and Burma. Bob McAdo. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:10 Google that, because that actually rings a bell. Bob McAoo. He sounds like he played for Lester. No, I think you're... No. Bob McAdo, I'm sure he won an NBA MVP at some point. What, championships? Yeah, Bob McAdu, he played for the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Never heard of him. You've never heard of him? Never. See, I mean, you don't know your stuff. You don't know your BMs. I know Brian and. in Bromo and Anna Benmey because I'm sure this is a football podcast
Starting point is 00:02:35 so let's get back into it maybe My next PM was not going to be football so we could leave it BM as in baby mother Yes it was exactly Yeah It was right there Always in sync
Starting point is 00:02:49 This should be a breeze It should be fine It should be a breeze Anyway let's open up and see who it is Right Brian McClare Okay Looks a bit like Santa Claus he does
Starting point is 00:03:01 Nah Do you know, in this photo, obviously, just going on first impressions, he looks like he should be in Sons of Anarchy. Sorry? Have you seen Sons of Anarchy? I've never watched that in my life. Like motorcycle gang. Does he look like he could be in a motorcycle gang?
Starting point is 00:03:17 He does actually. Give him a leather jacket and he's there. A leather jacket, some sunglasses. Give me a leather jacket. You have a trench coat, you're fine. Yeah, and it's hot. So he played for Matherwell. 15 goals in 40 appearances.
Starting point is 00:03:30 That's decent. That's really good. And then Celtic. 99 goals and 145. The conversion rate is crazy. And then he played for Man United for 11 years. So 1987 to 1998. Do you know what that means?
Starting point is 00:03:44 What? Fergie brought him across the border. Because Fergie sat. He joined Man United in 1986. Uh-huh. He must have saw him in the Scottish League doing his thing for Celtic while he was manager at Aberdeen. Brought him down and kept him until, and tragically. the season before they won the treble.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Why is that tragic? Because he didn't get to win the treble. How would you feel if you was at a club for 11 years? You left. You put my blood, sweat and tears into that and next season you go off and win the treble. You're right, I'll be livid. Yeah, like, I think even the year,
Starting point is 00:04:20 the season he left, Arsenal did a double, so you didn't win nothing. Pain, man. It's true, it's true. But look how young Fergie looks. Jesus. I feel so old. just looking at this.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You know, the only time I've seen Fergie recently is when United are getting smacked in a match and they just pan to him
Starting point is 00:04:38 and they just pan to him. Never when United win. When they're winning we don't see Fergie at all. After they've suffered a massive defeat
Starting point is 00:04:46 Fergie is the first picture you see. It's always like 5-0 against Liverpool how does Fergie feel about this? But let United win 5-0 you don't see Fergie
Starting point is 00:04:54 at all. Oh man. Fred the Red Pajamas. That's super random. Yeah. Bexam Porsche.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You're talking about leather jackets, you're talking about leather. Hey, listen, listen, listen. If Brian really wanted to, he could be in this picture as well. If he really wanted to. How hot must they be under that? Look, it's dribble down, mate.
Starting point is 00:05:18 That's fashion over health. Fashion over health. Because there's not one breathable part of this outfit other than a bit where the zip is open. I know. This is a red carpet, by the way. So you know,
Starting point is 00:05:33 about to go watch something on the Bia show for hours. Oh my goodness. The hugging on the way home is like sitting on the couch in the summer. With the plastic on. Fergie, yeah, the hair dryer. Red in the face. I used to love when Fergie used to shout on the touchlines, man. It's very nostalgic.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Or like he'd just be standing there. Chewing gum. Apparently on the tour they used to leave the chewing gum like in the technical area. On the tour? Like if you go on the stadium tour, you could see the chewing gum. The chewed up? Yeah, that's very. Okay, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:10 They need to sort that out. That's disgusting. It's probably gone now or like he's not been manager for 13 years, I think. Can you imagine going on a tour today and say, that was chewing gum on the side? Pick one up and do what with it? To do what with it, Carrel? It's been in greatness's mouth, boys. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:28 If you were to put that type of greatness in your mouth, you be my guest. You be my guest But I'm going to leave that on a pitch That greatness won a trouble And two champions leagues You might want to see How much flavour's left Does he chew it all the way through
Starting point is 00:06:41 Does he spit out afterwards How long has the chewing on midnight Is that from last match day Is it from match day one Have you seen how hastily he chews that gum There is no flavour left Literally There's no flavour left
Starting point is 00:06:54 Is this Victoria Beckham again It is Victoria Beckham again What is his obsession with Posh What is your source's obsession with Posh as a thing for but I hear it though Spice Girls 90s there wasn't there wasn't much bigger
Starting point is 00:07:08 much better regardless why is another man's wife in these files this is not even Victoria Beckham this is Victoria Adams see you'd even know that did you close the files
Starting point is 00:07:18 you have to know your stuff close the files just close the files we've assessed enough anyway that being said we have some files from Mr. McClare himself
Starting point is 00:07:27 and I believe as I can see there are three So these must be his stories that correlate to these pictures. Okay, let's roll the tape on the first one. Let's find out what Mr. McClare has to say. My favourite hairdriar occurred before a game. One Sunday morning came down for breakfast and Alex Ferguson's there
Starting point is 00:07:47 and a few of my teammates. And apparently, a Premier League from another football club had left his team hotel in Newcastle the day before and flowing back to London without the manager's permission to be at the witness the birth of his child. Fergie thought this was completely wrong and I think most of my teammates were just agreeing him. Usually I had the devil on me and I'm going, oh Gaffer, I think everybody should do that, you know, and he starts getting a bit more annoying and telling me that he missed
Starting point is 00:08:22 all three of his sons and births and I say all Gaffer, it's the best thing's the best thing ever have a hand. Better than scoring or goal, better than winning things. You know, it's something that you ever got an opportunity to do. Every father should do it irrespective of what a profession is. Well, he's getting more and more angry
Starting point is 00:08:42 and he starts to shout at me and say that it's your job. Fitball is your job. It's important. It is the most important thing. He got that son and he continues to berate me for the next 30 seconds of
Starting point is 00:08:58 how stupid I am for wanting to attend the birth of a child. Do you know what I like about this story? What? I know you're in shock. I'm in so much shock. This story was so immersive and it helps because he's Scottish. So when he's saying the Sir Alex bits, I can actually imagine Sir Alex saying it because of the accent.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You know, maybe if it was English, I'd be like, I don't know, I don't believe this. But I don't know, man. The thing is, I'm looking. at these files and I'm just seeing the picture of Sir Alex shouting going red. And I'm thinking this correlates heavily. No, but I don't know. I feel like Sir Alex is a family man. I feel like he would understand. Have you seen Sir Alex shout at his players? Yeah, in terms of the context of football, yes, he kicked a boot at Beckham allegedly because he wasn't focusing on football. But that was because he was trying to do the fashion thing. I think this is a man who loves his family
Starting point is 00:09:56 dearly. I want to agree with you, but I also want to point to the fact that this is a man that's worked with people like Roy Keen, for example. And can you imagine Roy Keen allowing one of his players to go witness the birth of their kids? Yeah. No, you cannot. Have you seen Roy Keen's Instagram? You cannot. He basically only posts his dogs and his kids. Like, that's a family man. Does he post more of his dogs or of his kids? I think he's kids. No, he's death of his dogs. Nobody loves, well he loves his dogs. Like I say, when he came back from the 2002 World Cup, what's the first thing he did?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Walked his dog in front of the media. So he loves his dog. And you know, the dog is a part of the family. But let's not get away from the fact that Fergie is a family man, right? You look at his son, Darren, played him at United. Then when he became a manager, what did he do? He sent him every United prospect on loan to go and play for him to help his career. So if he's willing to do that for his son,
Starting point is 00:10:50 and basically like exercise every level of nepotism. Do you not think he went to go witness his birth? I still believe that Fergie would not let him go and witness his birth, his daughter's birth. It really does depend if he likes you or not. This is a man that basically told David Beckham, he's never going to play for Man United again in his prime. Yeah, because he kicked him out of the club. Because he felt like his ego and his celebrity was becoming bigger than his football.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So how do you know he didn't do that to a player who's ego and, Because going to see your child be born are missing one game. How did a boycott Jimmy become a billionaire from posting videos? On good, bad billionaire, we're going to find out how the world's most popular YouTuber Mr. Beast made his fortune. He's buried himself in a coffin for days. Counted to 100,000 on camera. And even recreated squid games all in an attempt to go viral on the internet. But it all started when he gave a homeless man $10,000.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So is he a philanthropist reshaping capitalism? Or is he just the king of the attention economy? Find out on good bad billionaire. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Maybe you're missing the training session. It could have been a crucial game. It could have been a crucial game of the season. No, man.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I don't know. This is giving something that further you would do. I think this is the picture that's swaying you. And you need to stop looking at it. That picture is so scary. It's such a scary picture up. That's all she's been looking at the whole time. Let me turn it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Turn outside out. Hold on. There's another picture of Fergie in here. Let me get that theme. Doing what? Look, look, look. This is a man who laughs and smiles with his players. Look, don't be fooled by just this.
Starting point is 00:12:33 There's also that. You're right. And he's even got the wedding ring on this one as well. For those listening, it's a picture of Sir Alex Ferguson, I believe with Mr. McClare. And they're having a laugh and a joke together. Maybe that's how he even joked about it. Maybe he liked him.
Starting point is 00:12:48 He was like, oh, yeah, like. In the army, they won't let you go home, would they? Ha, ha, ha, ha. But because he said it in the Scottish accent, he's like, they wouldn't let you go home. Are you saying I'm being swayed by the accent? You're being swayed by this photo, which is mid-game, by the way.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Do you know what? Turn that photo upside down. Let me think of a clearer head. Does that look like a man that would do that? The picture of his smiling. And that's younger, that's younger for a year as well. Oh, do you know what? He does look like a sweetheart here, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah. With wedding regard. Exactly. They don't like they're having a laugh together. But he also looks like he's, under duress. Is it true also? I believe,
Starting point is 00:13:24 you know, Sir Alex and Trent, Alexander Arnold, they're related. What? Did you know that? I've believed,
Starting point is 00:13:32 let me... Can you Google that? Yeah, I can, I can, because I've actually I've read this before. Oh, wait, sorry, sorry, they're not related.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Okay, stop putting false information out there. No, no, no, I wasn't far off, they nearly were related. Okay, sorry, how can you nearly be related to suddenly? Trent's grandma, grandmother.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yes. was Sir Alex's first ever girlfriend. So, oh my goodness gracious. They could, and you know back in the day, like your first girlfriend is usually the person you end up being married to you for the next 50 years. So I'm saying in another time, man. Are you still in contact with your first girlfriend, Corral?
Starting point is 00:14:04 That's a crazy question to ask. The answer is no, but it's a crazy question to ask. You're saying your first girlfriend is usually the one you married. No, I said back in those days. Back in those days, no. In another timeline, he's related to Trent. Sorry for putting that misinformation out there, but they were nearly related.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Everybody, please. just ignore Corral. Your detective skills are just becoming a little bit too. You know what? This all started with you being clouded. This is all started with you being clouded. So what we're going to do is we're going to watch... I'm clouded.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yes, by that picture. I had to turn it upside down. Don't you worry. I'm going to go into the second story. Yeah. And see if that's a bit more or less believable for you. Do you know what? That's fine. We need to see all the stories anyway for me to make a clear judgment.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Let's go. Let's roll the tapes on this. I've had one job in my life. I've worked once. I've worked for five weeks in a supermarket. called Fine Fair in Scotland. One of my first shift, which was a back shift when the store had closed.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So I think it was something like nine o'clock at night till one in the morning. And the supervisor, for some reason, took a dislike to me. So he gave me what he thought was the most difficult task, which was to restop the shelves with chocolate biscuits. I think he felt that that was the most onerous task and it did the most difficult one.
Starting point is 00:15:16 We used to play this little game about who could eat the most chocolate digestive biscuits in a minute. And again, me, still being an ultra-competitive, I won most nights. So the supervisor thought that an annoying thing to continue would be to call me a chocolate boy. So that's what I got, Chocolate Boy, go and get the chocolate biscuits,
Starting point is 00:15:36 chocolate boy, go and get the detergent chocolate boy, go and get whatever thing you needed to restock the shelves with. And then my mates just started to call me that as well, because people like to think that your nickname or something that annoys you. So it was Chocolate Boy, which over time got shortened to chocolate and eventually to Chalky.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And that's why my nickname is Chalky. What do you make of that? I like it. I like it. But so what I'm gathering is, obviously, for those who don't know, Brian McClare's nickname is Chucky, which he says is shortened from chocolate and originally Chocolate Boy. that started that he's first and only ever, like, non-footballing job.
Starting point is 00:16:24 As a nickname from work ever travelled with you to, like, present day, like your first of a job? Yes, actually. In my first ever job, they used to call me pretty gale. Yes. And now they just call me gial. They do. Who? Who?
Starting point is 00:16:40 I know people that you know. Who? Everyone. I don't know how you've missed that. Have you not? Everyone I've ever met, it's just an eater. No. I've never heard anyone say.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Are you serious? You never heard anyone call me Miss Pretty? No. No? No. Oh, Carole, you need to lock in a bit more, man. Come on. No.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I think it's plausible. I think the area he's from isn't too far from like Matherwell, which is his first club. So the likelihood is there's probably a lot of people within that vicinity that might have known him or known of him. So that I nicknamed, because my thing is, bear in mind, his career path is Matherwell, Celtic, Manchester United. Yes. and that nickname has stuck till present day so for that to happen it has to travel to every place you go
Starting point is 00:17:25 because someone can call you something in school then you go to like college and you don't know people there so why would they call you a nickname that they don't know anyone else has whereas if there's people that you still know where you go they'll still call you that name and other people will pick it up
Starting point is 00:17:40 and call you by that nickname as well so you know more about Brian than me is his name is his nickname actually Chucky? Yeah you can verify that from your own experience. I can verify that that his nickname is Chucky. Okay, I think we should just play the third take because I don't have
Starting point is 00:17:54 nothing. I don't know what to think of this. I have nothing to go off of this. And in my case files here, there's nothing, there's no pictures here that suggests anything to do. There wasn't even a picture of a chocolate bar. Exactly. Not even a digestive. This is your sources again, by the way. These are my sources, which is
Starting point is 00:18:10 what I'm just saying. And I told you, and remember when I first looked at it before we even heard a single word of the story? I said, this person is obsessed with Victoria Adams and Victoria And that's why I'm so interested to hear the third one because I have nothing in here that indicates that this story is true or false. If we don't get anything that correlates to any of these things
Starting point is 00:18:28 that actually makes sense. I will fire my source. So here's the first ball of this series. All the cricket you last. Check for Lerby W. Ouch. Lips on BBC sounds. Smash straight back down the ground.
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Starting point is 00:19:03 Listen on BBC Sounds. Right, so we're going to go into the third story. A room with David Beckham once memorable experience in that when we got into the room, David, renowned for his OCD, produces an immaculate blazer and white shirt and grey trousers from his Dior
Starting point is 00:19:26 suit carrier one week a year next week it'd be Lue Vitton Chanel Yves Soleron you name it
Starting point is 00:19:34 whatever designer label it was David had that I said right okay we're going for dinner now I'm not finished I've got to do
Starting point is 00:19:42 some more prep hurry out why I'm hungry then he produces from his bag the zip part of his bag still in the plastic brand new
Starting point is 00:19:51 pair of pyjamas Fred the red pajamas. He takes them out, folds them neatly and puts him in a particular place on the pillow. And so what's that all about, David? He goes, oh, these help me to visualize how I'm going to perform tomorrow. Right, okay, no problem, let's go.
Starting point is 00:20:09 No, no, not quite. Next mate takes out a framed photograph of Victoria, Posh Spice, puts it on the bedside cabinet, right next to him. It's got to be a particular angle. I say, what are you doing? He says, I've got to wake up. I've got to go to sleep, looking at a picture of my beloved,
Starting point is 00:20:26 and I've got it, the first thing I have to wait up in the morning, it's not your ugly face, is to have a picture there of my beautiful, soon-to-be wife. What are you typing in the computer, girl? I'm not having it. Neither am I. But then I'm also not having a couple of other stories. Because here's one thing.
Starting point is 00:20:47 He would have been a senior player, for one. Yes. And every story I've ever heard of, like, Like some of it is true. Like I've heard about the OCD. I've heard about how obsessed he was with Victoria. If you've watched the documentary, you know. You know.
Starting point is 00:21:00 This apparently used to drive hours just to be worth for like 10 minutes. It's true. Which is romantic, by the way. It is very romantic. Would you do that for your first girlfriend? Are you still talking about her? I'm just asking a question. I wasn't driving at that point so I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Okay. I didn't have a picture of her on my bedside table though. Oh, okay. No, I didn't do that. That's not romance then. But carry him. Okay. my point is
Starting point is 00:21:22 that all those things are true but I believe at that point in time he was like by the time like Victoria's in the picture and all this stuff he's rooming with Gary Neville because Gary Neville's always the one that tells these stories about yeah when I was in a hotel room
Starting point is 00:21:41 even in that documentary he's always saying that was the case so remember he left Brian McClare left the club in 98 98 yeah and I'm saying before that remember now Beckham's now established. Once he scores that goal against Wimbledon halfway line, he's a star now.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. So I don't think at that point in time, even as a younger, maybe as like a really young player before he met Victoria, he might have roomed with him. But I don't think at the point in time where he's dating Victoria and doing all these
Starting point is 00:22:11 things, that he's rooming with McClare. I believe he's rooming with Gary Neville at that time. Do you know what? Okay, forget about the rooming with each other. Let's talk about the pajamas. I believe that though We've got to look at the pyjamas There is, what is this?
Starting point is 00:22:25 Is this a lion? Is this a tiger? What is that? It's a devil. A devil. Red devils, isn't it? Fred of Red. The devil on the pyjamas
Starting point is 00:22:34 is telling him how he's going to play or set up for the next match. No, but it might have been a superstition. Maybe he had Fred Red pyjamas as a kid and then he was like, do you know what? I need to have Fred Red pyjamas. So we believe the pajamas, but you don't believe the Victoria Beckham's part.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I believe the Victoria Beckham part. I believe the Victoria Beckham part. I just don't believe that. he was his roommate at that point in time. Okay. The devil in the details. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But based on that, this is what's spinning me.
Starting point is 00:23:00 If we're wiping out this one, what is the more believable one out of the first and the second? Oh, God, I forgot about the first and the second one. Is Fergie saying you can't go have kids? Or is it he got his nickname at work? This is quite tough, ain't it? It is. I still believe that Fergie can tell a player, look.
Starting point is 00:23:21 This is your job. mate you can't be going off to go watch your kids get born i believe that i believe he's a family man you know come on believe he's a family man and still say you can't go witness to the birth of your child he can be a family man football was his life remember that yeah but his family was his life as well like but regardless this was a long time ago this is this is pre family man vergi so he retired went two thousand and what 13 13 and 13 and Brian was at Man United when? 19. What?
Starting point is 00:23:55 1987 to 1998. Okay, those are two different, completely different eras. No, but I'm saying that's a family man. I'm saying, if he was obsessed with football. He might be a family man now. But back then, he was obsessed. He was still young. He was a spring chicken.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, but he had kids. But he had kids. His son played for him in the first team. But how do you know he didn't have been the birth of his son? I don't know if his son was that good. I don't know if his son was that good. So I'm not even to say anything. But like, if you're willing to put your son in the first team
Starting point is 00:24:19 and give him every opportunity, I think you love him enough to go... Or you feel bad because you missed the birth of it. Nah, man. You missed his birth. I'm not having... You could feel bad because you missed his birth. He loves the game.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yes. But he also knows when he could walk away. So like, even in the early 2000s... In 2002, you almost retired. He almost retired. And then he's saying, nah, forget that I'm going to go win another league. And another one.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Yeah. Another one. Yeah. But if you... Yeah, but you know to have it in your head to say, I could walk away from this, right? Even that can say that there's bigger things in life than football.
Starting point is 00:24:52 No, Wenger was stressing him. You see? Wengar was stressing him, that's it. Nah, man, I'm saying, well, Wengar had a team that was unrival and he was at how am I going to get out of this? No, come on.
Starting point is 00:25:03 So you, okay, so you're saying, you think that's the one that's true. You think in 2002, Sir Alex was retiring to be with family. Oh, so you think the first one's true. I think the first one's true. I think the second one's true. So what I'm going to do is, yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:14 what I'm going to do is, listen, I've never done this before because I've never had a partner, right? So what I'm going to do is we're going to rock paper, scissors for it. All right, cool. Ready? Right. Rock.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Okay, I won. Okay. Just the FYI, I did scissors. Correll did paper. I knew he'll do paper. Yeah, because she wants to cut me down at every opportunity. You're just predictable, Coral. All right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 So the three stories, just to recap, right? Fergie's given a hairdryer because he doesn't believe players should leave to witness the birth of their child. The second one being Brian McClare's factory job is the reason why he has the nickname. Chucky originating from Chocolate Boy. The third one being that he used to room with David Beckham and David Beckham had a picture of Victoria on his bedside table, Fred the Red Pajamas, and we are going with the first because you won rock paper scissors.
Starting point is 00:26:05 No, no, no, no, stand on it. Stand on it. Are we doing that? Yes. Okay. So, luckily for you, we don't have to wait long to find out because Brian McClare has sent a reveal of sorts. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Let's roll the tape and find out. What is the truth from Brian McClare? I'm actually nervous about this. So my job's on the line. The big reveal. I did indeed work in Fine Fair as a 15-year-old. And the supervisor took a dislike to me and he tried to give me the most difficult jobs,
Starting point is 00:26:36 but I just took them on board as a challenge. I did not get my nickname there. That came several years later. Courtesy of a teammate, Tommy Burns. I did indeed room with David Beckham. He did not have Fred Red pajamas. Corral. It's more likely that his chosen attire,
Starting point is 00:27:02 although I cannot confirm or deny it, would have been to wear an England top. That leaves us with the truth. I got a hairdyer at breakfast. For you suggesting to Alex Ferguson that the best thing he can do, ever in life has witnessed the birth of your child, which ended up with me having a pre-game hairdry
Starting point is 00:27:27 in March 1989. And the player, Malcolm Arn, left the Kupier Hotel the day before, caught a flight from Newcastle, got to London in time for the birth of his child, and he ended up getting a two-week fine for it, which Alex Ferguson, said was completely and utterly right although he suggested
Starting point is 00:27:55 if possible it should be worse so there you go true story breakfast hair dryer from Alex Ferguson take care what did I say I told you Sir Alex Ferguson
Starting point is 00:28:11 back in those days no nonsense he might be a family man now but back then the Sir Alex I grew up on he would never have it. It was mind games. I know deep down he believed that it was the right thing to do, but he had to show his players that, do you know what, when you're here,
Starting point is 00:28:27 we're here to work, football is important. I know deep down that if a player had that situation, he would have let them go. But this is why we work together. I might see something, you see something else. Correll, I'm about to use your own line on you. Yeah, right. No, but I'm, oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah, right. Listen, listen, listen. This is why you need me here, girl. Yeah, it's true. Listen, I'm just saying, right, at the end of the day, we are a team. Your victory is my victory. Very true. My loss is your loss.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You know what? I think too highly of people, you know, because at the end of the day, at the end of the day, I've built a name by calling people out for lying. So I want to try and see the good in people, the truth in people. And maybe I should have seen the red-faced Sir Alex Ferguson rather than the soft, you know, kind, tender man that I've seen stories about. Yes. That's, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:29:22 That's okay. I now know going forward, I'm not going to be tricked by any pleasantries, any niceness. Yes. Thank you for showing me that. You're welcome. I appreciate you. No problem.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Also, thank you to Brian McClare for your stories. Really interesting. I don't know if you were doing a Sir Alex impression, but it made it more believable that you're Scottish anyway. And thank you to everyone that's watching and listening. I hope you've enjoyed it. And if you guys have any suggestions on people you think of falling through the net, need to be pulled up on, need to have their stories analyzed,
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