Football Daily - Karel Prince: Lie Detector - Fraizer Campbell
Episode Date: August 12, 2026This week, former Manchester United, Sunderland, Cardiff City and Huddersfield Town striker Fraizer Campbell submits three stories from his career, but only one is true. Was Campbell really caught up ...in a police helicopter pursuit after taking a wrong turn through the city centre? Did he secretly climb out of a hotel window to collect chicken and chips on the eve of a Championship playoff final? Or did he ignore manager Steve Bruce's instructions and sneak off to Las Vegas for 48 hours with team-mate Titus Bramble during an international break? Armed with photographs, football knowledge and a healthy dose of suspicion, Karel and Anita investigate every claim before Campbell returns to reveal the truth. Karel Prince: Lie Detector is presented by Karel Prince and Anita Abayomi and is a Sport Social Studios production for BBC Sounds. Credits Series Producer: Matt Tasker Technical Producer: Tom Hinckley Executive Producer: Jim Salveson Photography: Tom Barker Artwork: James Mobbs Original Theme Music: WIZZFX Commissioning Executive for BBC: Stevie Middleton Assistant Commissioner for the BBC: Steve Trenchard
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Yes, people, it's Coral Prince here.
And Anita, buy me.
We are the resident fact checkers here at the BBC.
Every week we'll be bringing you three stories from ex-professional footballers.
Two will be lies, one would be the truth.
And using our detective and analytical skills, we will be trying to figure out which is the truth and which is the lie.
Anita, are you ready to help me out?
Yes, I am.
Let's get into it.
F.
FC Football Club
I'm trying to think of any footballers
with an issue of FC
Federico Keezer
Oh, that's a good one
What would he be on the investigation for?
Why he didn't
Why he barely played
Under Arnie slot
FC FC, FC
Frank Conner
Frank Conner's
Frank Connors? Is that someone?
Do you know what?
Do you know what really grinds my gear
is people with two first names
Frank and Connor
Like a John Terry?
Do you know, yeah
Yeah
That really grand my ears
Who's another one that's got two
You must know a lot of first
double first name.
No, I ignore them.
I literally erase them from my memory.
What about the people that have a first name,
but they don't use their first name,
but they actually use their middle name?
I use my middle name.
So Anita is not your first name.
Anita is my middle name.
Ah, yes.
Because that Harry Maguire, Harry's not his first name.
What's his first name?
Jacob Harry Maguire.
Jacob Harry Maguire.
I'm pretty sure it.
Should we VR that?
Do you want to use your ancient computer?
Born Jacob Harry Maguire?
Yeah, yeah, it's Jacob Harry Maguire.
And then Joe Hartson, first name's not Joe either.
Joe Hart is just such an unbelievable name to begin with
His first name is Charles Joseph John Hart
That's his name
Charles Joseph John
Charles
Joe
Mr Hart
I know we're under the same umbrella right now
If you want to come here and explain
Why you have three first names
Bro
You let us know
Like we will happily have you on this table
We'll sit on this side and we can have a chat
You can have a real chat about that
Three first names
That's crazy
Easy. Okay, as someone who uses their middle name,
yes. When you went to school,
yes. Did you submit Anita as the name that you wanted to be called?
Yeah, that's how it works.
Or did you have to tell them, don't call me what's on the register, middle name?
No, I literally submitted Anita as my first name.
So wait, I could have gone to school.
If my mum so choose, they could have just called me Max Power.
Do you know what? You look like a Max Power with your blonde hair, to be fair.
It would suit me, isn't it? A Max Power, like, it's a full name.
Very Congolese.
Max Power is also a football.
baller.
Who does Max Power play for?
He played for Wiggin.
Oh.
Or plays for Wiggin.
I don't know if he's still there.
I can check for you right now.
Go on.
But the first time I heard the name Max Power, which is why this, yeah, he still plays for Wiggin.
He also played for Bradford.
He played for Wiggin before again.
Sunderland.
That's such a cool name.
Max Powell.
But where I first heard it was in The Simpsons.
Homer Simpson changed his name to Max Power.
And it just stuck with me.
So when I saw a footballer called Max Power, I was a footballer.
I couldn't forget him
Max power
Do you know what
It's such a good name though
I like that
Max power
It's got double meaning
Yeah man
You mean anything as well
Where does Max Power play
Midfield
Is it midfielder
Ah Max power
In the engine room
Max power
Maximum power
Maximum power
I mean
That's an MP
That's not really an FC
But
I think that goes to show
We don't have many
I almost forgot about the initials
On our case files
FC
What?
Ingram manager
Fabio Capello
Oh my days, Fabio Capello, Postman Pat.
God forbid we had Fabio Cabello's vials in our hands.
Stories he'd have to tell about that England squad
would be monumental.
Have you heard the story of David Bentley and Jimmy Bullard
sneaking out of one of his camps to go get McDonald's?
Let's say for fun that I didn't.
Tell the audience, what was the story?
I think we should leave that to Mr. Bentley or Bullard
to come and tell us that story.
But I know they said that they left
somehow snuck out of the camp to go get.
I don't know how you sneak out of the campway.
Should we find out who FC is?
Yeah, let's give it a go.
Ah, Fraser Campbell.
Fraser Lee Campbell.
He's a Lee Campbell.
Fraser Lee Campbell.
You know what's funny about Fraser Campbell?
Go on.
I met him earlier this year.
Okay, how was that?
At a birthday party.
A Premier League Champions birthday party.
Oh.
Tell us more.
Corral, what?
Your stories?
Tell us more.
Forget your three stories.
Forget your free stories, Fraser.
Yeah, no, I met him at
Danny Simpson, we won the league with Lester.
He played with him at United.
I met him at his birthday party.
And weirdly enough, he just spent the whole, every time he saw me that night,
he spent the whole night saying, don't tax me, don't tax me.
So Wynne's file is sitting here in front of me and he submitted free videos for me to review.
He wants to get taxed, man.
I'm not a fan of that approach.
Hey, listen, it's all message me privately.
It's all mind games.
It's all mind games.
It's all mind games.
It's all mind games.
It's mind games.
Man games.
But yeah, I've followed his career closely.
Okay.
Obviously, was that Man United.
Yes.
After he started.
I actually went to Spurs on loan in 0809.
Do you know why he went to Spurs on loan?
Tell me why.
Because Dimitar Burbatov went the other way to Manchester United on Deadline.
So they needed to replace a striker at last minute and they got Fraser Campbell.
Good old Berbertov.
Where does Fraser Campbell rank against Berbertoff?
I'll take Fraser Campbell.
Over Berbertov.
Yeah.
I've never met Dimmatar Bervitov in my life.
You haven't met Bervito?
I've met Bervatov.
Was he cool?
He's amazing.
He's the funniest guy.
Did he show you his first touch?
No, unfortunately, it was at a Beyonce concert.
You met Dimitar, Burbitov at a Beyonce concert.
I've got pictures.
What?
I met him at a Beyonce concert.
I think his wife dragged him there.
I guess whilst I met at the Beyonce concert in the same area,
Marez.
Marz and his girl.
I believe that.
I believe that.
Yeah.
Literally, it was like a simulation for me.
I was like, hold on, Burbatov.
I swear down.
And I told him, like, your first touch is a,
How do you move like how you move when you're this tall?
He's massive by the way.
He's taller than you.
Massive.
Six foot, four, something.
I'm taller than that for the viewers.
I know I'm sat down.
Don't let me stand up on camera.
If I stand up, I'll be like, you know in Tom and Jerry,
the woman that's in Tom and Jerry that you can't see a face.
That's how tall I'll be on camera.
Don't give Dimitar ideas as well to start messing with me because.
I'm telling you, he's a tall and he's so friendly.
I can imagine.
Yeah.
The crazy thing is, I can't imagine Dimitari.
I'm notar Beavitov at Beyonce.
This is throw me off.
I promise you he was there and he loved the show.
He absolutely loved it.
I will show you the pictures.
I've got the proof.
I'm not a liar.
I'm telling you.
No, I believe you.
I believe you.
Thank you.
You should have just thrown something at him just to see his first touch.
I'll be honest with you.
And next time, maybe he'll come on a show.
Who knows?
But back to Fraser Campbell.
Dimitar, if you're watching, you let us know.
You talk a lot about Dimitar's first touch.
What about Fraser Campbell's?
Fraser Campbell, I think he was a very good striker.
I mean, yes, did he put out the look at the look.
levels that Dimitar did.
No, but sometimes that's opportunity, you know.
No, I like I love, got a lot of time for Fraser Campbell.
Okay.
Let's look at the case files then.
Las Vegas, Nevada.
That is a really weird picture to put in here.
There's always a post-season trip to.
Exactly.
This might be spicy.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Is that a police officer?
Is he getting arrested?
Arrested.
It's giving GTA.
This is so crazy.
What did you do to have a car and a helicopter?
He's got five stars.
He's got four.
five stars.
All right, that is...
That's interesting.
Do you know what you have to do
to get a helicopter on you?
You're going to get the choppers on you?
Hit the parkies, laughing.
If you know, you know.
If you know, you know.
But do you remember?
Some of these pictures might be...
Some of these pictures might be doctored.
You know, AI generated.
No, but it could just be to show
what the time was like, in it.
It's still an AI generated picture.
Oh, yeah.
Put that against him.
You got Fraser Cambo at Sunderland.
He looks so young.
I can't lie.
No, no offense, Fraser, you know I love you,
but your trim looks better now than they did back then.
That is, I don't know who was your barber and son.
That's terrible.
Back then, were you actually getting trims every single week, though?
Cost they were.
Have you saw some of the trims that guys were getting, like,
in the late 2000s, early 2010?
No, but the amount of patterns and stuff.
They would get their hair dyed
or let the pattern, like grow out and stuff.
You weren't getting trims every single week.
Like, I'm looking at the England camp this summer, right, for the World Cup.
They're getting their hair braided every single.
week. It's unbelievable.
Yeah, but do you know how many cameras are on them?
Mate, but I'm saying back in the day, they weren't doing that.
Yeah, because like, what?
If you're not playing that Stamford Bridge, Anfield, Old Trafford,
you're barely getting a highlight on match of the day.
So you don't need to get a trim.
Now, you can watch 90 minutes of every match,
and there's about 75 cameras in the stadium,
zooming in on you.
There's 85 photographers at the game.
You've got a post on the gram after the game.
You know, if you lose, the fans are amazing.
Sorry about the result.
You win.
Fans are amazing.
Well done for the result.
You score, I've got best believe if you score five posts.
So you got to have a trim.
So what you're saying, Fraser didn't get no airtime.
Your words are mine.
You might have been in a gold drought at that point.
I don't know.
Your word's not mine.
And your favourite meal, chicken and chips.
Firstly, okay, let's unpack why you said that's my favourite meal.
Let's unpack that because I can't remember the last time I had chicken and chips.
So let's talk about it.
But even way, a box of chicken and chips, I'll be honest, I just, I need to.
to hear about this.
Yeah, because surely that's not in his diet.
He was a Premier League footballer.
Yeah, but like, Usain Bolt ate nuggets at the Olympics.
Usain Bolt is a different kettle of fish, mate.
He's just different league.
No, he is, you know.
And also, he's only got a run for nine seconds.
You know, I used to see Usain Bolt a lot, you know.
You know, if you're in Manchester at any point in the year,
you'll meet Usain Bolt.
Is it the Usain Bolt or is it someone that looks like Usain Bolt?
No, it is Usain Bolt.
Because he's a Man United fan.
Yeah.
He comes over a lot to watch.
watch Manchester United.
Have you met him?
Yeah, I've met him.
Several times.
It's to the point where like, it's no longer, wow, you're saying, but it's like, oh, it's
you saying.
How you say.
I don't know him, but it's like, you feel like you know him because you see him that much.
I saw him.
I saw him race a random woman in the streets.
Did a woman run?
Of Manchester.
I saw him race a random woman.
Who won?
Come on, man.
Let's not disrespect the goal.
I need to be sure.
I need to be sure.
You think she won in her barefoot after taking the heels off against a triple.
A triple Olympic champion.
You will never know.
I think I could take him on.
In what?
All right, let's get into the case file.
Fraser Campbell.
Anyway, Fraser has been kind enough to send us over some clips.
I want to know about Vegas.
I want to know about chicken and chips.
I want to know about the handcuffs.
If that's all one story, I'm scared.
That would be the best story we've ever had.
Right.
Clip number one.
Let's roll the tapes.
What's Fraser got to say?
Sorry, before I press play,
go on.
be wary of the fact that he's a Yorkshireman
so he's got the...
You're warning me about the accent.
I wasn't prepared for it when I first met him.
I was fought him from like Manchester or London.
I like a Yorkshire accent.
I'm fine.
Yes, Karel.
It's Kareseh.
I told you he knows him.
See how he said my name?
He knows him.
He says yes, Karel.
I've got a few stories for you.
I'm going to put your lie detector
sensors to the test.
So here we go.
First story I've got for you is
When I was up at Sunderland, I was involved in a police helicopter chase, unbeknown to me.
I was driving through the city centre in Newcastle, and I took a turn down the wrong street.
So anyway, I'm driving home, and then I was in the car with my friend,
and we noticed there's helicopters.
It was like, oh, I wonder where that helicopter's going.
Must be chasing someone.
Next minute.
Six police cars.
surrounded my car pulled me up
and it was me
that I'd have to
because I turned the wrong way down the street
and he was in the Sunderland
Echo the next day
I got a bit in trouble
with my manager at the time
Can we just write this one off
immediately?
Can we write it off?
There's absolutely no way
this is real.
There's no way
and it weren't on the live news
it weren't on BBC at all
there is no way
Yes
Premier League footballer gets chased by the cops
with a helicopter in the sky
I don't think he even got chased
By the time he realised there was a helicopter on him
There was cars around him
And there were handcuffs
See no you're gonna make me sound like I'm distressed people
But is that national news
That is something that would be on the national news
But okay, right let me think of it right
Go on
So he's saying it happened
Because he turned the wrong way down the street
Yes
That does happen
That does happen
But it potentially could have happened
In a case where
Okay he's rich
Okay
He's driving a certain car
Yes
And that car might have been target
Like in terms of
The vehicle is like the type of vehicle
For someone else that was a criminal
I heard that the police
I'm more likely to pull you over
If you make a left turn
When they're behind you
That's what I've heard
Based on what
Apparently the left turn is an easier turn
To make
So if you make a right turn
Then it's like you're not trying to avoid the police
But if you make a left turn
You're just making the first left turn
That you see
Because it's the easiest thing to do
Oh yeah
Because we're on the left side of the road
Yeah
Apparently, that's what I've heard.
Yeah, but I'm trying to think, like, what the context.
Because he said specifically is because he turned down the wrong road.
He probably took the left turn, the first left turn that he saw.
And the sirens probably went off by down.
Yeah, but he said the helicopter was above him before he clocked.
There was any police cars.
And there was six of them.
Maybe he went down the left turn a bit too fast.
You know these footballers?
They drive like Ferraris, labiginis, etc.
Yeah.
The car probably went a bit too fast.
But then you would just say, oh, I was speeding or I was doing this.
Like, you said it's because you went down the wrong road.
Well, he might have just tried to, you know, make it sound a little bit more believable.
I don't know.
I feel like he's trying to make himself sound like Dominic Touretto.
Like, what's going on?
Yeah, fast and furious, babe.
You know what I mean?
I'm not too sure in this one.
Okay.
We can put that in the maybe, Kyle.
I'm not too sure on this one, but I'm ready to hear the second one and see what that's all about.
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Okay, let's do it.
The second story of Gotfiel is that before we played Bristol City in the playoff final,
me and my roommate, Caleb Fallon, wanted something extra than the playoff.
pre-matched standard meal.
So we ordered the Just-Eat to the hotel.
But they couldn't come to the reception, obviously.
So I had to climb out a window down the road
and get the chicken and chips.
Yeah, I didn't tell anyone.
Not told anyone until this day, actually.
So they snuck out to have chicken and chips.
But he said he climbed out the window?
Sorry a second.
Hold on a second.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
If this is 2008...
Okay.
How are you getting to Just Eat?
You're cooking. You're cooking.
Google when JustEat was open.
Google it.
I don't think I need to do that.
What phones were even up?
Just Eat.
Ooh, I think Justin was around.
Yeah, if you rang up the local takeaway and said,
you'll deliver some food, that's one thing.
But I Just Eat.
Just Eat might have just been around, potentially.
Let's have a look.
Just Eat was found in 2001.
Okay.
Hold on.
There you go.
So you order food.
Yeah.
You order it for an app.
Yeah.
But do you remember ordering food before the apps were out?
I used to use.
is one of those leaflet things that come through the post.
Exactly. With the number on it.
Yeah.
Or like you'd call your local Pizza Hut or you do, Domino's or whatever, your take, their Chinese
takeaway.
But at the same time, I wasn't old enough to know that there was a just-eat around them times
either.
In my life, maybe because my parents are African, yeah.
So maybe he's got a different youth or like adolescence, right?
Mm-hmm.
My parents never used online to order food.
Yeah, because our parents would go into the kitchen and cook.
No.
When my mom wanted pizza, she would ring up pizza art and say,
she's like the super supreme from pizza art.
Okay.
And we'd have that sometimes.
Yeah.
So it was never, oh, you go to the place.
Like, so I'm thinking, when you say,
and even when you say, oh, just eat and then you go down the road to get it.
Yeah.
I'm like, does that even?
I'm sure back in the day you can go on that website,
literally type in what you want, call them up,
and then go to the restaurant to pick it up.
I'm pretty sure that was a thing.
Okay.
I'm trying to think, okay, 2008,
whole Dean Winda scored the winner to send him to the Premier League.
Playoffs.
Playoffs.
Championship.
I remember that.
Okay.
So, okay, let's say plausibly.
Okay.
That he can get the food.
He can't get it delivered to the reception.
Okay.
Do you believe that he hopped out the window and went down the road to collect it,
then came back in and hop through the window again?
Absolutely not.
So, even if you're not.
So if he's jumping out of window to go down the road,
there's two things that can happen here,
which would be the most pointless things to happen
before arguably the biggest game of your career at that point.
Go on.
One, you can get injured.
Oh, mate.
May.
Listen, I don't know when you guys are seeing this,
but I saw what happened to Jordan Henderson just trying to go over a little thing.
And you were celebrating.
Yeah, and you're hopping over out of window to go down the road.
Secondly is, if you get caught, you could lose your place in the team.
Yeah, that's true.
true as well. You can be dropped out the squad. There's too many risks. Too many risks. And I'm saying
would you do that for one chicken and chip the night before, playwright? You don't even know if
the chicken and chip is top quality. It's not even your area. So I don't know if you're doing all
that. But again, we've had the car where there's plausibility in it, but we don't know if
the helicopter's wild. You'd actually go down the wrong road and have six cars, five star
wanted rating for that. Yeah. I've done worse things on GTA and not being pulled the same way he got
poured. Exactly. And then we've got this which is it could be plausible
depending how much of a big back he is but I don't know if I believe it on that level.
Right, let's play the third clip. Let's go into the third one. Let's roll a tape and see
this one might be the one that smells right. There we go. Smells like that good chicken and chips
that he apparently ate. And the third story I've got here is
when I was up at some of them again, it was an international break and Steve Roos had told us
that you know he didn't want us going away on
trips outside of the country.
You could go see your family and whatnot.
But my good friend, Tyke's Bramble, had the idea that we should go to Vegas.
So, secretly, we, and this was before Instagram and all that stuff.
You could get away with things, see, so we ended up a cheeky little 48 hours in Vegas.
Yeah, you never found out.
Hmm
40 hours in Vegas
And no one found out
Plausible
It is
Closable
I think this is the one that sounds
The most true
But who goes to
Who goes to Vegas for two days
A lot of people
Really?
A lot of people
More people than you think
Yes
Yes
Is it worth the jet lag
Yes
That thrill and the adrenaline
That you get from going to Vegas
For just 48 hours
Or 40 hours
It is unobes
unmatched. So I kind of believe that that happened.
I'm trying to think.
He said before the Instagram era, which was obviously false because Instagram, I think,
was founding in 2010. And he was in Sunday, 2009 to 2013.
Yeah. Steve Bruce was there 2009 to 2011.
Yeah, like, if we say before Instagram, like, we mean before everything.
I think it means before everything was really blown up and serious.
Titus Bramble.
I've heard a lot of stories about tightest.
Bramble.
Well, he's heard.
Just on different podcasts, it seems like he probably would have that kind of idea
to make that happen.
This is one.
But the phrase that I met is an older phrase of that.
It's more of a family man phrase.
Everyone is a family man to you, Corral.
Just let it go.
People have a past.
That's true.
I've said a lot of people.
No, no, no, but I was going to say, I was going to say, yeah, but obviously we're
talking about like 2010, right?
Exactly.
So I'm saying the one I met is like an older version.
Yeah.
that he's in his late 30s.
So I couldn't really picture what he was like back then
because I didn't know him.
But I would, I think this one is.
This one sounds too good to be true.
Do you know what I mean?
It feels too easy.
I don't,
I don't know because I think those are kind of escapades people to pull.
But it feels too easy.
To say.
Yeah.
Okay, but then, okay, what's more plausible?
You take a wrong turn.
You have six cars on you and a helicopter.
But, man, this is also in Sunderland while he's at Sunderland.
A lot of things happened up there.
Fraser.
I need three more stories about Sunderland
because I know that seems like a kid.
I know.
Then you've got hopping out of a window
before a player final.
That one we were right in that one off.
Chicken and chips.
Yeah, we're writing that one.
And the third one is going to Vegas for 48 hours.
Which sounds like the most unbelievable
but in context sounds the most believable.
It sounds the most believable.
It doesn't sound an intro.
Like I don't have a doubt that that would be not real.
Apart from the fact that it's too easy.
Okay.
So let's lock in for a second.
Okay.
Let's lock in a second.
The car chase,
which didn't even sound like a chase.
Yes.
Where are you ranking that?
That sounded like a scene out of GTA,
so I'm ranking that as the least believable.
Less like he than the chicken and chips.
Oh, this is hard.
This is difficult.
Okay, chicken and chips, the least likely
because it's before a playoff game.
There's no way.
But then, oh.
I feel like we're overthinking it.
There's nerves and like nerves, excitement.
The wives do not make you climb out of a window
before one of the most important games of your life.
Yeah, because I would have said like if it was like a superstition of his or something,
like, oh, I always had like chicken and chips before a big game or something.
He would have said it.
He would have said it.
Because he's like, oh, nobody knows I ate chicken and chips before the player final
after 16, 16, oh, no, wait, how many years?
18 years after it happened.
Like, ooh, I had chicken and chip.
I'd be running around saying, do you know what?
Yeah, we got promoted a day before I was eating chicken and chips.
Like you were saying Bolt did.
Why would you not brag about that if it paid off?
You would keep it to yourself if you lost
because you don't want anyone to know that you did something to ill-prepared for it.
But it would be like saying, imagine saying like,
oh, I went partying for three days before a big game
and I scored a hat trick, which, as we know with my history,
someone says that they're probably lying.
Yeah, we know.
All the hat-trick.
We know.
Samueletto will lie about a hat-trick, I'll tell you that for three.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
And you'll tell you that he left games at half-time.
to go on holiday but that's neither here nor there.
I'm thinking that that didn't happen because you would tell the story.
And I don't think the GTA scene happened.
But I do believe that in 2010, 11, somewhere between 2009 and 2011, I feel like with
international break, as we always see in off-season, especially the ones that don't go and
play.
Yeah.
Like you've seen the trend nowadays, it's like they go to Dubai for a few days and stuff like that.
I don't think it's out the realm of possibility that in 2009 to 11th, especially, you know,
and wherever that period would have been
that you could go on that trip.
It's a mad trip to do because of the time it is to get there and back.
I feel like I'm looking too deeply into this.
But I'm going to go with your lead on this, Corral.
I think I think the Vegas one is the one.
Is that what you think?
We can do it.
We can lock in, shake hands.
If I'm wrong, though, I'm going to have words with Fraser, man.
All right.
So Fraser's been kind enough to send us the real answer, the reveal.
I think all there's left to do is roll the taper.
it and find out if we was right or not.
If you was right or not.
You went with me. We're a team.
We win and lose together.
We're right. You're right.
I'm rolling in the tape.
So the actual true story is the speed, is the car chase in Sunderland.
I didn't know.
I got chased by the police in my car.
I wasn't say I was speeding, but I must have lost the policeman in the city centre
and he radioed on and next minute is the helicopter after us.
You should have seen some of the fans driving past, taking pictures of me, getting told off by the plays.
Like I said, it was in the paper the next day, which was, you know, wasn't really, or the next week, however, the manager wasn't too happy about it.
As for the other two stories, me and Caleb were roommates.
We did think about getting a ticket, but we never did.
We were ultimate professionals.
Probably good job because we needed the energy for the playoff final.
and the other story was one that someone told me.
They had heard a rumor that me and Titus Bramble had gone to Vegas mid-season,
which, you know, I must have had a bit of a reputation for being a bit of a party boy
because, you know, despite me being denying it and saying, no, it's not true, I would never do that.
Nobody actually believe me.
So, yeah, I never went to Vegas, and I never got to adjust the...
before the play a final.
At least we can agree on the Just-D.
I've got an issue with this.
So how can you say,
your story,
you got pulled because you took a wrong turn.
Now, when you reveal it,
you say that you were speeding
through the city centre
and you lost the police.
And the thing is,
if he said the speeding part...
Exactly.
It would have made sense.
That would have went with it.
Yeah.
Because that would...
He explained a helicopter firing in before the police cars did.
That would have explained so much.
Context was key.
I didn't realize that we were being chased or we didn't realize that the helicopter was on us
because I was just speeding along.
I get that.
When you say, oh, it's because I took a turn.
A wrong turn.
I don't like that.
It's a sour taste of a moment.
And I thought, I thought, Frasel, I felt like I could have considered them a friend.
No, that's not your friend, honey.
But he's decided to be saboteur.
That is not your friend.
He's not my friend.
Now he's going to be texting.
in these ex-pro group chats,
whether it's Man United, it's Underland,
hole.
Oh, I got him.
The tax man's rattled.
Literally.
Yes, I'm rattled.
Because you lied to me.
Do you know what's so funny, Carol?
And you're probably going to fire me for this, right?
As he was speaking about the chase,
it all started to come back to me.
I do remember this story.
And I think it was...
From where?
It was national news.
Listen, I know you've never read.
the echo a day in your life and definitely not the day
after he got pulled over. I'm sure
I'm sure this one's reported. This was definitely reported.
By who? I don't know. Go on BBC
News and type it in. He made an illegal left turn. He made an illegal
left turn. You see what I said? No but
do you know what my issue is with it? He could
have said that he made the turn.
Correll, we just got done. And didn't stop.
Correll, no man. We got done. We got done. We got done. We got done.
Let's just accept it.
enough.
Fair is fair.
The story is true.
There's evidence.
It's approved.
It's all that stuff.
But I feel like leaving out and putting in specific things is nasty work.
It's actually nasty work.
If that's the game that we're playing, then I think we need to lock in a bit more and understand
that these people can still be muddying the truth.
Yes.
Within the truth.
Yes.
So it's true.
But is it true?
But is it true?
Is it true?
Fraser, we'll have words anyway
You know, you know where to find me
I know where to find you
You don't need to send me an owl
I've got your details
I'm upset I'm upset
It's alright
Because we've had a stinker
We've had a stinker
I don't think it's our fault
It's not our fault
It's not our fault
We'll put this one in the bank
Guys I'm only human
I'm only human
I just wear a trench coat
Just wrap it on
Yes Fraser
You win
I want to thank Anita
for your assistants today
You've been great
I know
I want to thank
Fraser, top guy, top fellow, you know, when I met him, he was lovely guy, honestly.
Honestly, I didn't even know, I didn't realize it was him at first.
Like, I knew he looked like him.
But when he introduced himself, I was like, bro, it's Fraser Campbell.
And he was genuinely, all night, the nicest guy.
Love that.
Life of the party as well.
He loves a good dance.
But he remembered, he always had in the back of his head,
I need to get home to the family.
And I like a guy that's like that.
Family man.
I also want to thank you guys who are watching and listening from wherever you are in the
world.
If there's anyone that you think has slipped the net, needs investigating,
needs are analytical and detective skills.
Don't judge us by today.
And I'm going to use a quote from Wolf of Wall Street.
Go on.
Don't judge me by my wins.
Judge me by my losses because I have so few.
If you believe in me, you believe in us, me and Anita.
Make sure to reach out to us.
Social media.
Email.
I will.
and like I always say
the owl is a
Oh my gosh
Excuse me
Can you let me lie
Sorry sorry sorry
The owl is an effective form of communication
It was just outdated
By the technological age
Attach it to the owl's ankle
Say my name
And it will find the trench
And shout tax man as it takes off
It will find me
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