Football Daily - Monday Night Club: ‘Selfish’ Salah, Villa join title race & Leeds revival
Episode Date: December 8, 2025Is Mo Salah ‘selfish’ for claiming he’s been ‘thrown under the bus’ at Liverpool, or justified? Are Aston Villa now part of the Premier League title race?Mark Chapman is joined by Conor Coad...y, Chris Sutton, Steph Houghton for the Monday Night Club to debate the big questions of the week.They’re joined by Liverpool fan John Gibbons to talk Salah as well as hearing from Arne Slot. Macclesfield Town manager John Rooney comes on the show as his side are drawn against holders Crystal Palace in the FA Cup, while Hearts fan Liam Corbett explains the significance behind their win over Celtic.Conor Coady gives valuable insight into how to get the most out of his ex-teammate Dominic Calvert-Lewin, who has been instrumental in helping Daniel Farke turn the fortunes of Leeds United around. What chance do Leeds now have of staying up?Timecodes: 00:10 Salah’s comments 03:30 Slot on Salah 06:00 Reaction to Slot’s comments 11:00 Whose side are Liverpool fans on? 20:30 Could this end positively for Slot and galvanize the Liverpool squad? 24:45 Macclesfield manager John Rooney joins the show 30:00 The rest of the FA Cup third-round draw 32:00 Has Daniel Farke turned it around at Leeds? 40:25 What now for Leeds 43:45 ‘Humble’ Aston Villa now in the title race? 52:50 Hearts beat Celtic – with Liam CorbettCommentaries coming up this week: Tue 2000 Inter v Liverpool, Tue 2000 Tottenham v Slavia Prague on Sports Extra, Wed 2000 Real Madrid v Man City, Thu 1745 Ferencváros v Rangers on Sports Extra, Thu 2000 Celtic v Roma on Sports Extra.
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This is the Monday nightclub with Mark Chapman.
On the Football Daily Podcast.
Welcome to the Monday Night Club, Chris Sutton,
Connor Cody and Steph Horton are with us.
Plenty to get through, but Liverpool and Mo Sala
does feel like the only story in town at the moment, Chris.
And we know why.
I mean, he's been such a big part of Liverpool's success
since he's been at the club.
It's a very public falling out and very unnecessary
and Mo Sala, unfortunately, for Liverpool
and their support has made it all about him.
his form hasn't been good this season
and the one thing which I don't know what
Stefan and Connor think you have to think from
Arna Slott's point of view
Arna Slott wants to win football matches
that's what he wants to do
there's no personal agenda against Mo Salah
Mo Salah's form hasn't been good
what makes him different from other players
in the dressing room has had a phenomenal career
this season he hasn't played so well
his numbers are down he's not the same player
and all of a sudden he's been left out for a few games
and he wants to live by different rules
to other players within the dressing room
and now it's Liverpool is carnage
because of Mosella
I mean the old what, no iron team
dear me I find the whole situation
just absolutely ridiculous
and I wonder what his teammates really feel
that would be the most interesting thing
I think you see pictures of today's train session
and looks all normal
nicey nicey but I think
Salah's not the only one
that's not been informed this season
and I think in terms of timing
it probably couldn't have come at a worse time for Liverpool
that interview and I think that's what
makes us think that this is something that's been
pre-planned in terms of the
time and playing against Leeds he probably knew
he wasn't going to play, he probably expected
to come on at some point but he didn't
and for most Salah that probably hurts
his ego that he's not coming on against Leeds
United and Liverpool had drawn that game
3-3 but I think
it's poor from him from a self-
point of view, I think it does put other people in jeopardy and also kind of it's got us
talking about it, which he probably wants. But is this something that there's a bigger picture
in terms of what you want to do from an individual point of view? I think the biggest thing
for myself, thinking about it and being in a dress room now that I'm in. And I've been trying
to think all day about like, why would you go to them? And I don't know most I don't think
none of us know most hours. We don't know the sort of character he is, but we know he's got
this in him because he's done it last season when it comes to getting a new contract and it
come to these things. So we know he's got that in him. And I've been trying to
to put myself kind of in the shoes
they're trying to think
because I knew it was coming on here thinking
from a player's point of view
why would it go to them lengths
I can only think of something's gone on
behind the scenes that we don't know about
now he should never ever
for me anyway
go to the press and do what he's done
because you put your teammates at jeopardy
and that's the most important thing
because Chris mentioned it there
about being a team
so we probably see tonight
the press conference that's going to go on tonight
and all the questions will be about
most salary and where he is
and why is he not there and all these certain things
so he's put his teammates in jeopardy
and that's the biggest wrongdoing
that you can do in my
eyes really well let's hear from him then you mentioned the media conference that's
going on and when I say him I mean on the slot so doing this pre-match press
conference ahead of their Champions League tie against Inter Milan tomorrow he was
asked first whether he thought Salah was referring to him a slot when he said
that he'd been thrown under the bus the only one who can answer that question is
more himself so I can guess but I don't think that's the right thing to do in this
moment of time so it's it's hard for me to tell who he means in that situation to be honest we've let him
know that he's not traveling with us so that was the only communication has been there of course
before saturday the two of us have spoken a lot sometimes longer sometimes shorter he has
the right to feel how he feels things when i didn't play him anymore usually players don't like
the manager than that much but he was very respectful to my staff members to his
teammates and he trained really hard so to an extent it was a surprise for me that when I
when I heard after the game that he gave for the commands he gave but as I said it's not the first
and not the last time that when a player doesn't play he's he I'm not sure if he was emotional
or not but that he says something that something similar to what he did but I think our my reaction
to that is also clear and that's that he's not here with us tonight I'm a
firm believer that there's always a possibility to return for a player. So I can leave
with that, I think. Hi, Honour. You say that you've spoken to Moe quite a few times in
recent weeks. I just wonder, he was a substitute twice in his first 18 games this season.
What or why has he then only been on the bench for the last three games? What prompted that
change? We as a team struggled this season and already last season more and more with
the game plans other teams had against us. So I'm not only talking about.
about the long ball style, which is something
team mainly do against us now.
So I've tried to come up with solutions
because there's my job, and we've tried many things.
We looked very vulnerable in my opinion
after all the things I've tried against Forest
and against PSV.
And then I decided to play with an extra midfielder
in the game against West Ham, where we won the game.
So I decided to do it one more time against Sunderland.
We're at halftime.
I brought him in.
And against Leeds, we faced a five
3-2 where I've decided to play a 4-4-2 diamond if you want to look at it like this
with Hugo Eki-Kittiki a bit off the right side and Cody Kakpo a bit of the left
with Florian Wirtz in between and I could have played Moe as well off the right instead of
Hugo but I decided to play Hugo. Hand on heart do you think he's played his last game for
Liverpool? I have no clue I cannot answer that question at this moment of time
Ian Dennis putting some of those questions
to Arna Slott
John Gibbons from the Anfield
Regular on the Monday night club
joins us now. Evening John?
Good evening.
Before we come on to Salah,
what did you make of Slott's answers there?
I thought he was good.
He always speaks well.
Honour Slot, to be fair,
he's very calm, isn't he?
And it helps in situations like this.
And I thought last year when he was getting asked
about the contracts,
it felt like every week.
One of them was Mose,
but it wasn't just him.
There was Virgil and Trent.
I always thought he felt very calm
and felt in control of the situation
and that was a tough press conference for him.
I don't think there was anything he could have said
that would have made everyone something
everything right because there's only so much you can do.
Like he points out, it's only been a couple of days
and he played tomorrow.
So the situation wasn't ever going to be sorted.
So I think he always feels in these situations in control.
I think he's fair.
You know, he's not throwing anyone under the bus
in that situation.
to quote Mo and yeah
you just listen to him
and you just feel like even if he's
you know he might be a swam for all
we know absolutely flapping under the water
but you seem very
calm to me and that reassures you a bit as a fan
the other thing that is quite
I would have thought if you're a fan Connor
is quite reassuring there
and actually is
fairly unusual with a lot of managers
who will try and bat something away
is he actually tried to explain
tactically why
he left Salah out
there. It wasn't just he hasn't
been playing well, he hasn't scored,
I don't think he tripped, all, any of that.
He actually tried to explain the tweaks
that he had done, certainly for West Ham and
Sunderland, and then said, you know,
he could have played him against Leeds.
But he gave, he gave reasons.
And I'll be honest, that's coming from a manager
under serious, serious pressure, isn't it?
To answer the questions like he did, I thought he answered
them fantastically well.
And if he's said all that to Mohammed Salah
behind closed doors in an office and that
That's the reasons he brought him out.
There's no answer to that.
That's how it is.
You get on with it as a player.
I think you've got to take it on the chin.
Listen, we all know how good
and John will know more than most
about how good Mohammed Salah's been for Liverpool
and you don't want to see it end in this way.
Deno asked him there, didn't he about,
is this the last game?
And he wasn't going to answer that question,
of course, he wasn't because he doesn't know.
But you don't want to see Mohammed Salah finish like this at Liverpool.
You just don't want to see it.
The legend is being for the club, for the Premier League.
Because let's be honest,
he's been a legend for the Premier League as well.
He's an incredible footballer.
but I just think he answered it
like he's always answered it
and as John just mentioned there
the way you've done it last year
about the contract situation
really, really calm
but from a player's point of view
I don't about you Steph
when a manager tell you might not like it
Mohammed Salah might not like he's been brought out of the team
he certainly won't like he's been brought out of the team
but if a manager is telling you tactically why he's doing it
whether he's playing sub-boys lie there
who's a midfielder or not
then you've got to take it on the chin as a player
and just move on and that's how it is
when there's tactics involved in a conversation like that
then there is probably no argument
because then it rests on the manager
and how the team performs
and for Liverpool this season
and it's not at the standard that we expected
in terms of what they set last season
and win the Premier League
and obviously new players coming in
but I think there's been a lot of players
that have not been on the former
and not been performing
and slots had to change something
to try and kind of obviously
the West Ham away win was a big moment
in the sense of right, okay
this could be the start of a run
and then you draw against Sunland
you draw against lead
so they're not quite at that level yet
but he's trying different things
and I think if that was say Sunland
and the Sunland managers
explain them explanations
then like, right, okay, well, we're trying to kind of stop the rotten away,
but I think you're right in terms of more Salah,
in terms of what he's done for the Premier League in Liverpool.
I'm sure we know Liverpool fan wants to kind of end it like this,
and it's so interesting to see what Liverpool fans think.
Is the big question, though, the if bit,
if he's explained that to him in the office behind closed doors,
and if he's, and you've got no reason to think that he wouldn't,
But there are enough former players you tell me, you know, this manager said one thing to me and then did something else, you know, that they never said they were going to do.
But if he said that and then said, and by the way, you know, I'm not leaving him out because I haven't got any other options at the moment.
And he's got to play because I need him to do this.
But it's, and you would hope that those are the conversations as a player.
100% chappers.
And this is why I said before, I've been kind of sat here today, knowing we were coming on the show tonight and thinking from a player's point of view, being a player, current player within a dressing room.
why would it get to this point where he's got to come out
and do an interview and he feels like he's got to do an interview
and what has gone on behind closed doors
and you hope them conversations are being had.
You hope he's sat him down and gone, listen, this is where we're at.
I don't feel like you're playing well enough
because not one player in the will is undropable,
but at the same time have enough respect for Mo Salah for what he's done.
Because you have got to have respect for what he's done.
He's been an incredible football of Liverpool over the years
and you've got to remember Chappas as you get older,
I'm feeling it now as you get a bit older.
You want answers, you do.
It's just what you want.
It's just how you feel.
And Mo Salah more than anybody will be wanting answers.
and it's just interesting.
It'll be interesting to ask John
kind of what side of the fence he's sitting on
because I've seen a lot of Liverpool fans today
met a lot of my friends or that sort of thing.
Are you Mo Salah or are you on slot
because I'm seeing a load of different things with it at the minute.
Well, I've got me on a slot t-shirts on.
I've worn it perfectly for it
because you've got to back the manager in these situations
and you've got to do that
and think no matter what,
Mo Salah's done for the club,
which as you said is a huge amount
over the years.
you know, he's not bigger than the club
and he's not bigger than, you know, what needs to be done.
And it's been such a difficult season already
for so many different reasons.
And, you know, Saturday was hard to take.
You know, it was another set piece goal.
It was another late call.
It was another one where you felt like they were in a good position
and threw it away.
And he's just sort of made it worse.
And a lot of people who I know were really angry with Moe on Saturday night
because it felt like how has this?
helping. How is this helping anyone? You're focusing on yourself here, but how is it helping us
get out of the situation? And on the arm field, we've been talking about togetherness and
listen, you can all lose your head after, after, you know, games lost and stuff like that. I've
done that this season myself. But, you know, you've got to keep it together in, in certain
situations if you, if you want, the, the, the leaders of, of this team. And if he does feel like
he's, he's lost himself in the moment, then it's him who needs to sort that out. And I'm sure
that the manager and his teammates
have given him opportunities to do that.
It's one of the worst things, John.
Actually, that question that Connor asked
is that you as a group
have been asked to take a side,
which is the kind of last thing
you really want as a fan base.
You know, it's not the final of X factor or something
to be team this or team that, is it?
You don't want, as a fan base,
you don't want to be divided.
Every club is stronger when it's together.
At Liverpool, you know, we grew up being talked about the Holy Trinity,
which is the players and the fans and the manager,
and those are the three.
And if you could get them together,
then we feel like we're unstoppable really.
And, you know, Mo's gone against that, really.
He's gone against the manager, but also his teammates.
He's basically saying I'm better than them.
Why aren't you picking me?
Do you know what I mean?
Because that's what it is.
You can't pick 12.
So if you're saying that he needs to start me,
as I start me he's saying that the lads who he's playing up front aren't as good and you can't
really say that as a football and then go into the dressing room and pretend everything's all right
I wouldn't have thought anyway and so he's going to go down as a greater Liverpool whatever
happens you know this isn't going to take his legacy but but right now it's not helpful and right
now you know he's made a difficult situation even more difficult by you know focusing on you know
himself and why aren't I am playing it like and it sounds like it has been a
explained to him and he's not played well this season that's another thing it can't be a huge
mystery how much of that is his fault how much of it is tactically what we're being asked to do
you know that's that's up for you know debates and things like that but he can't argue that
his season or Liverpool season's going well so of course the manager is going to look for
different solutions and he needs to be big enough really even though you know he obviously
is desperate to play and listen I'd rather have that I've I've watched Liverpool well
watch Liverpool players who've blacked injuries to get moves of
abroad and things like that
so I'd much rather a player who was desperate
to play and getting angry than one who was
refusing and so we need to remember that
it's coming from a place where he wants to help
but you still don't do that as a player
if you are unhappy Chris and want to move on
and I'm not saying he said that he wants to move on
but if you are unhappy and want to move on
is there a right way to do it
because all I'm saying is look he's come out and said it
and I suppose he's being honest
and open, if you're going to be, if you're going to look at it from his point of view,
rather than trying to manoeuvre things behind the scenes where rumour and counter
rumour then come out? Well, he's been honest and open, but he has made it all about him
and not the team. And he's, he's been extremely selfish. That's what he's done. Because now
there's a bit of a civil war at Liverpool. And, you know, it didn't need to be like this. I think,
you know, watching match of the day at the weekend.
I think Danny Murphy and Dionne Dublin summed it up pretty well.
There's ways to do things.
And Connor and Steph will know if you, you know, go and have a private conversation with the manager
and you can have it out and you can tell the manager what you think of him
and the manager can tell, you know, what he thinks of you back.
And that's fine.
But it stays within the manager's room in that respect.
But for him to, what, I mean, John's described.
what good could come out of what he did.
And this is what drives me,
without being overly cynical,
this is what drives me mad about.
What did you say 15 minutes ago
about being the positive force on this show?
What does sicken me a bit about,
you know,
like when Liverpool have been doing well
and, you know, players come out and speak,
it's this sort of, oh, it's a team spirit.
We all get on so great
and everybody's marvellous.
And now we're seeing Mo Salah for what he really is.
You know, it's all about him.
You know, it's him being selfish.
I hate that sort of stuff.
I think he's really let himself down here.
He is no different.
When you start, you know, when I was starting as a youth team player at Norwich City,
you understand, you understand the dressing room dynamic.
You understand the game that you have to win your place on merit.
You have to continue performing well to stay in the team.
And he's been brilliant for Liverpool.
But this season, you know, John watches them week in and week out.
He hasn't been very good.
And then the argument, I get what Steph is saying,
the argument about, well, Kinati's not playing well,
but they don't really have a replacement for him.
So that's a sort of separate argument,
and other players haven't been playing well.
But you still can't get away from the fact.
Mo Salah has been poor this season.
Arna Slott is desperate to win games.
His job is under pressure.
He doesn't, it's nothing personal.
Mo, you're just the same as everybody else.
but now you're seeing him come out
and I think it's such a terrible look
and everybody is talking about
well who's going to go first
is it slot or is it Salah
how has that been helpful
for someone who loves the club so much
Chris that's what I was trying to say
in terms of when Salah comes out and speaks
it's obviously powerful because of who he is
the experience he has and the status
of where he is in the club and especially in the dressing room
and last season was whether he was going to stay
or he was going to go
and I think that argument he had last season
was where Liverpool were playing well
he was in a position where he was hitting
unbelievable numbers from an assist in goals
point of view and I think that's what
would become disappointing when the club is in need
of someone to stand up and go
actually we need to get together, we know we're not
playing well, we're trying our best to just
kind of fix this form for the Liverpool fans
whereas now like you said Chris
it does become a little bit selfish
and that's why I'm like thinking
what is good of going to come out of this conversation
now because really that manager
and player relationships kind of tarnish now
because he's had to come out and explain
reasons for why he's left him out
but at the same time what does more want from this situation?
Let me flip it just slightly the other way
and this is James Pearce in The Athletic.
Senior club figures knew that every game Salah was out of the team
the chances of him speaking out increased
his ego and his mindset are part of what makes him an elite force
and he was never going to keep quiet about what he perceived
to be an injustice.
And John, that's the flip, isn't it?
That's kind of the other side in that a lot of, not every team,
but great teams and teams that win titles tend to have the one player who's the X factor.
And they tend to be allowed to get away maybe with a little bit more because of what they bring.
And I'm sure we can all think of examples, you know, throughout the years.
That was, and that is what Mosauer is to Liverpool, isn't it?
it?
Yeah, he's like
Rory Smith
on the Monday night
club could just
turn up
where he wants
you know
and people
people still love
to see him
now it's
he got away
with quite a bit
last year
in terms of
his defensive
work because
his numbers
was so good
and I think
under Yeager
I think there
would a bit
of greater
expectation
for him to
to press
and to go
further
whereas under
Arna
they felt like
a little bit
of an understanding
really and
but when the numbers
drop off
you know
people are going
to start
looking, well, how much you're putting in the other way? And I think that feels like that's
happened a little bit this season. People are like, well, he's not helping his fall back out.
You know, there's not, there's not situations where he's pressing from the front light,
maybe he used to. But, you know, if he scores the winner, then, you know, you're going away
from the ground talking about that, not necessarily the work rates. And so I think he's got himself
into a situation or, you know, with his form, really that the managers had to make some
difficult decisions and they would have known and everyone would have known that at some
points you know most salary is going to say something because he has in the past
but maybe they're looking at it and thinking well we knew we have to start thinking about
post-mosella life is that going to be a little bit sooner than what we may be taught
these these players who've come in who haven't hit the ground running as well as maybe
we'd like that we need to start building the team on them two things before we let you go
John, is could this
bizarrely turn out to be a big positive
for Arna Slot? In terms of
with what's going on at the moment
Alison has said
the rest of the squad are fully behind him
we believe in his knowledge and his style of playing
and he's capable of turning things around
given how this season has gone
but the fact that he's a title
winning manager is this
the kind of thing that galvanises
unity for you?
It could be, yeah. What I would say is
listen I don't think he did have sacked him
anyway, but they definitely won't do it now.
Like, because you can't, as a football club,
I have a player come, you know, come out,
and then suddenly the manager's gone,
and then Mo Salas back in the team.
Like, you can't have that.
And so I don't think he would have lost this job
any time soon anyway,
because I don't think that's really FSG style
and Liverpool style,
but it's certainly what happened now,
because, you know, the optics of it,
it'd be awful, and next time a player's not happy,
you'll just go, well, I'll just go do this
and get the manager's act.
But I think I'd love to see them galvanized.
I'd love to see the best performance of the season so far,
because at the end of the day, that's what we should all want.
We should all want the team winning.
And that's what, you know, makes you kind of frustrated even more about the seller quotes.
Is he waiting for the late goal to go in so he can then put the boot in?
You start to sort of doubt his commitment, really.
What does he want?
Would he have been disappointed if the team had won because then he didn't get to, you know, be vocal about it
and doesn't get to be proven, right?
What's your gut telling you about whether you see him play again for Liverpool?
I think he might go in January I do because I think I think the club will back the
manager I'm not sure he'll necessarily back down from it and I think the club they've got
some work to do with the squad as well and he might he's on a lot of money that's huge like
he's on he's on certain money you know and it's like it's it's huge so um so they might see
that open that opens it up and for the possibility to get some of these more players in
It looks like they need, which is crazy to say.
Given you put Rory Ann Sutton away,
I feel a bit guilty about saying this,
but I was going to end it by saying,
I'm glad you stood up to reveal the Arnold Slot T-shirt
because the track suit top has a bit of a retro Manchester United feel about it, John, doesn't it?
No comment.
See you soon.
Thank you for coming on.
Cheers, thank you.
I'll give us for the Amfield rap.
Do you think that's the last time he'll play for Liverpool?
I agree with John
I don't think he backs down
I'd be shocked
to be back down
I actually think
what you were saying
there chap is about
galvanising the team
I think it really
galvanises the team
this I look at myself
in a dressing room
as something like that
and I think
it galvanises the team
I think this is something
that can bring the team
together so
will we see him again
I don't know
I can't see you
do you not think
he'll have
he'll have sort of mates
in there though
who
he's been there
such a long time
hasn't he
he'll have
he'll have his guys
in there as well
who will be backing him
Connor
no
You'll have friends
Of course he'll have friends within the change room
He'll be with him
He'll be listening to him
He'll be saying, yeah, you're in the right here, Mo or whatever that may be
But I just think
Again, I don't know about you, Steph being in a dressing room
Or you, Chris, when you was playing
When you see something like, especially when you're not playing well
And results aren't going your way
You want anything to get you through it as a team
Now, it's all right saying, oh yeah, we'll back Mo here
But the biggest thing for you still playing in the game
is to win games to make yourself look better.
So I think the leaders within that group,
your Van Dykes, your people within that group,
the leaders within that group
have got a huge role to play now.
I really do.
Hello, this is Matt Chawley's urgent questions.
Your daily dose of political mayhem
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The F.A. Cup third round draw was made a little earlier.
Macclesfield beat ten-man Slough Town in extra time to go through to the third round of the FA Cup for the first time
since the club was reformed and they have drawn this evening holders Crystal Palace at home
and a Crystal Palace, who are fourth in the Premier League this evening.
John Rooney, Macclesfield manager
joins us live.
Doesn't get much better than the holders at home, does it, John?
No, you know, it's a great draw for us.
We got to the last couple there,
we thought, man, you were still in there, ideally.
I was looking at Everton at the Hill Dickinson,
but no, any Premier League team, you know,
it's massive for the club,
but it'd be a great day for the club
and obviously the fans as well.
Did you actually want to be away then?
I mean, that's the obvious question, isn't it,
because of that financial...
I mean, if you've gone to Hill Dickinson or Old Trafford,
that's a ridiculous amount of money coming in.
Yeah, I think it's massive for the club
if you're going to get an away draw
and with the stadiums
and the Premier League
obviously get a lot more fans
so financially it would have been
great to be away
but listen you get a Premier League team
at all with an excellent draw
and one we're all looking forward to
we had all the lads down for the draw
so there's a real good buzz about the place as well
you're the lowest ranked team left in
14th in the National League North
what has the Cup run done so far
to help you league-wise
because you're back at this stage
obviously as well, you know, because the club fell all the way down,
you know, you're on the rise up here.
Yeah, we're on the rise up, but I think the cut run as well.
It's some, we've had a lot of games called off because of the cup run as well.
So we're sitting 14 with a couple of points outside the playoffs,
but we've got three, four games in hand on some teams as well.
So we're in a real good place, and obviously you want to have your points on the board.
But, you know, the cup run, you know, you want to stay in the cup as long as you can
and to get to the third round for the first time since the club's reformed
as, you know, with the excellent achievement.
but now that game's over
back to our blood and butter
which is the league
until the centre of January
so it's not concentrating on that
which is I know Connor wants to come in
but your next game
such as I mean honestly
the National League North baffles me at times
you've got Kingslin away
yeah Kingsland away on Wednesday
and we went there last week
and they got called off on the day
so a bit of a nightmare
well here's our East Anglia expert
did you travel
we got all the way down
we literally got off to we got up to
We got out to warm up,
warmed up for 10 minutes,
and then it got called off,
so absolute nightmare.
You actually got off and warmed up?
We were warming up, yeah.
We were on the pitch.
Oh, blind me.
Even though it was never going to be on,
added in the game, isn't it?
John, great to see you, mate.
Just a quick one.
Do you fancy yourself?
Because we've seen stranger things
happening in the FA Cup, haven't we?
As you know, I spoke all week about it
at the FA Cup, and it could happen.
Listen, we have massive, massive underdogs,
but it's football.
It's a crazy game at times.
You know, we've seen a lot of results last year
if you look at, it was a Tottenham time where
goes to the extra time, this is on the day.
You're a massive underdogs for on the day, as you know,
to the FA Cup and it could happen.
And, you know, it's when we're looking forward to.
It'll be a great day for the club and for myself as well,
my first year in management.
It's a great experience for me as well.
Are you enjoying it?
Yeah, I've loved every minute of it, to be fair.
I think you miss playing it, especially the weekends.
That was the first time where I thought,
oh, I'll love to be playing today.
But I've loved doing this side of it, to be fair,
and they've got good lads around me as well,
so that's massive health for me as well.
Taking over from such an iconic manager in his opinion, Robby Savage.
I mean, he took half your squad as well, didn't?
He took loads of your best players with him, didn't?
I mean, has it been sort of difficult taking over with what you had left?
Yeah, obviously he took four or five of our players
and then myself not playing.
So there's five of your, probably a start in 11 gone from last year.
but the lads who are here
who I've took over
it's incredible
sometimes it could be hard
to go from player to manager
but the group of lads
the players have been outstanding with me
it's been a good transition
for me especially with these lads
because I get on really well with them
and I thought I'd find it tough
to transfer over to the management side
with the same group of lads
but they've backed everything
I've done and you know
even last year I've done bits
with them on the training and pitching
so it's been a good transition
to be fair with the group of lads
that have regrouped
and know it's being good.
Do they have to call you something different
than they did when you were their teammate?
Or do you insist on Gaffer or boss or anything?
Or can they still call you by a nickname?
No, I'd rather them just do it anyway.
They call you Gaff or whatever.
I've never told them to call me.
I mean, you do it all that,
but some of them still call me other stuff as well.
Listen, John, thank you very much for coming on.
Wish you well in the Cup tie.
I also wish you well in good.
going to Kingsland again this week
and that not being cut. That's the most
important thing that it's not called off. Thank you very much
John. Enjoy the cup time. Thanks for having me.
Cheers. Thank you. Thank you. John Rune with us
on the Monday Night Club.
An iconic manager in his own mind,
did you say? Yeah, yeah.
But it's true.
Some of the other
FAA Cup draws. Honestly, Spurs and Asterville
must have come out and thought you
and Everton and Sunderland and Newcast and Ballam and
thought you are. I'm at United and Brighton.
Just like, you are.
But for all of those clubs, they could have a real good go at trying to win the FA Cup, couldn't they?
All of those eight, and they must have thought, you are kidding me.
Yeah, and that's probably the mindset of some of them clubs is to try and win a trophy.
And when you get drawn against Premier League rivals, you're probably thinking,
I'm sick of playing these.
And you want something a bit different.
But, yeah, I mean, the FA Cup's an unbelievable trophy to win, and it's really special.
And it's so good to see so many non-league teams in the draw for the third round.
and Macclesfield especially.
Western Super Mayor, another non-league side,
get a trip to Grimsby.
Conners, Wrexham are at home to Forrest.
I would imagine TV will pick that.
So that'll be unusual, won't it?
TV cameras at Wrexham again?
Yeah, brilliant.
Brilliant, brilliant tie for us.
I think a good Nottingham Forest side
comes to the race course
and we'll try and make it a tough night for them, won't we?
Yeah.
Any other ties stand out for you, Chris?
No, not really.
Is that because you haven't got the drawer in front of you?
He wasn't ready for that, was he?
Thank you very much.
Who have Norwich City got?
Walsall at home.
Yeah, good draw that, yeah.
Might get through my winner game.
Walsall going well, though, Chris.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, well, they might not, though.
Good, excellent.
Are you doing plenty of F.A. Cup analysis for us this season, or?
Maybe in time.
Excellent.
Not as an issue on.
Sorry, I've not got the whole draw.
Yeah, sorry.
Do you remember last year when we had,
I think he was the Whitehall manager on,
do you remember?
And you asked him,
and you asked him what he knew about the opposition,
how had he had them scouted?
And he had to point out that the drawed only up
in five minutes ago.
And they didn't have a big scouted team anyhow.
So no, he hadn't quite got round to that.
No, yeah, he buried me, didn't he?
He did, absolutely.
You have had, moving on to our next subject,
Do you have had a few discussions about Daniel Farker
with some of our other pundits over recent weeks?
Has the last week changed things for Daniel Farker?
I think it has.
I mean, the speculation surrounding him
because of the run of games
which I had after they lost against Aston Villa,
I mean, I don't know how true it was,
but it seemed like he was fighting for his job,
which I felt was deeply unfair
because I thought that leads have been competitive enough
this season
they've been
really good at home
I'm really pleased
for Daniel Farker
because I think
things which have been
leveled at him
in terms of not
being proactive
enough with his
substitutions
I covered the game
against Manchester City
Manchester City
were so dominant
in the first half
all of a sudden
he made changes
half time
played a different way
went with two
up top
brought Dominic
Calvert Lewin
on went with
a back three
they were more direct
and Dominic Calvert Lewin, since his comeback into the team,
has been sensational and he's given them someone to hit a focal point,
a way to get up the pitch.
And if you play someone off him, he's a real handful.
And then they beat Chelsea, played with great intensity.
The Villa game, which I lost, they played brilliantly in the first half
and Villa came back and won in the second half,
but they were still really competitive.
To show the courage to come back against Liverpool
as they did to get a point,
I think Leeds fans are seeing a good bit of fight in the team, resilience,
but also a team with organisation and a manager who does have a game plan.
And I don't want to keep repeating myself what I've said about Daniel Farker in the past,
but to sort of throw stats at him for how badly he did with Norwich when they're in the Premier League,
I think it's really unfair on him because the Norwich squad wasn't good enough.
You know, they were miles off it.
So I thought that was unfair.
This season, I think they have been really competitive
and it would have been harsh to sack him
after a pretty competitive start.
I'm pleased because the last few games,
I think, that they have shown
that they are going to be competitive under him.
But the game changes Dominic Calvert-Luitt.
And here's another one.
I think everybody talks about the World Cup
in the summer and England strikers.
I tell you what, if he goes on a run,
there's no reason why he can't make the World Cup.
I'll come on to Dominic Calvert-Lews shortly
because obviously Conner, you know him very well.
But the tactical side of things here is the big thing stuff as well, isn't it?
And Farka, post-Liverpool, said,
if you play against PEP Guardiola, Enzo Moreska,
and stay against Arna Slot,
and we know in terms of quality we can't compete with them,
so we have to be spot on in tactical terms
and try and surprise them sometimes.
It's joyful after the game to get a good result.
But to be honest, I'm just happy that I can spend the weekend
with coffee and cake on the sofa.
And as a Leeds fan, Texer does,
Gary, we've had the same mentality for such a long time,
and that is don't give up, which I think is probably true.
We were unlucky against City and Villa,
but what a difference the formation has made.
Well done to Farker for seeing the bigger picture.
I think we've always spoke about when promoted teams come into the Premier League.
I think you obviously have a wave play,
and I think everybody reverts back to Burnley and Vincent Company
and him having this expansive style.
And I think teams have learned from that now.
Like, you look at Sunland, I don't want to go about Sunland,
because they have just adapted to the Premier League.
They've respected opponents.
They play against Mansitin, even though they got beat at the weekend,
they went into a 5-4-1 and we're just like,
we're going to just try and make it difficult
and we're going to catch on the counter.
And that's what's been impressive with Leeds in the last few games
is that they've thought, right, okay, who we're playing against
and what are our strengths?
And obviously, Dominic Calvert-Lewan comes into that
because he's so mobile as a forward, he's a handful,
he can jump, he can kind of harass when he's defending,
and also he can score goals
so how do we get the best out of him
and I think that's what's been
the most impressive thing
is that they've found that strength
that in that 5-3-2 formation
that they've been able to get someone around him
to help him to produce goals
and I think for leads in terms of the fans
all they want is a team that never gives up
that works hard but also
I think when it comes to performances
they're able to perform and they're going
they keep going and I think
as soon as Dominic Calvert Lewin's
scored that penalty against
Liverpool on Saturday, you knew that they were going to come back.
And I think that's the belief that Fark has gone into the system.
I don't know what you think, Connor, in terms of,
I think it's been a real clever move, trying to change formation,
but also get the best out of his players.
I think it's been a fantastic move.
And I think also I'm absolutely over the moon for Daniel Fark.
He gets this, I never understood it the last few weeks
where he's getting a bit of stick
and people are mentioning his job and he's under pressure and he's this and he's that.
I think he's done a brilliant job.
He had leads firing in the championship.
and going to the Premier League is a different beast for anybody.
It always is.
It's the most competitive league in the world.
It's full of quality, the tactical side of the game, the mental side of the game, every part of that game.
Now, their goal will be to finish 17th.
I don't care what people say to me.
If they stay in the division, it's a success and that's that.
And he's been within the mix of staying the division going into Christmas for me.
And I really like him.
I like how he holds himself.
I love how he talks.
I like how he speaks about his team.
And the guys have mentioned it here about the formation change and going to something that suits them.
I think it's being a little bit of a masterstroke, to be honest with it.
to go up against their manners that he mentioned there in his interview
is absolutely brilliant to get the results he's got
and I think they're really good to watch.
We watched the game the other night when we was on the show
and I thought they were outstanding when they played Chelsea
and they've obviously backed the look with Liverpool as well.
How do you get the best out of Dominic Calvert Lewin?
As a former teammate of his,
is it about giving him the right support on the pitch,
i.e. having someone there alongside him.
I think that benefits him, but I think he can play both ways.
I've never been part of when I was at Everton and I played with him.
I was lucky enough to play with him.
and for England as well. He's an outstanding footballer
and people just think he's a big lad who you can go
long to and he can win headers and things like. Technically
he's very, very good as well. You play
the ball into his feet, he can set, he can spin,
he can hold a ball, he can get you up the pitch,
you can do all his side of the game as well.
And when I was at Everton Chappers, I never
felt a team need
a player as much as what we needed, Dominic
Calvert Lewin when he didn't play. Honestly, we were
built for him. The team was built for him. We got the ball
wire, we crossed it into the box. And I said there
about that wasn't his only part of his game,
but it's a real strong part of his game as well
where he can attack balls
and he can be strong in the air
his leap is unbelievable
and the amount we missed him
when I play with him was unbelievable
honestly you felt it
week after week after week
because he had quite a lot of injuries
but if they keep him fit and firing
they have got a right chance
this season of staying in the division
Connor I think we obviously just say
about tactics and formation
and like we do say quite flippantly
in terms of yeah he changed formation
but I think for me as a coach
that's a big compliment
to Daniel Farker in the sense of
you can change formation
but it's like the messages
that you get to your players
and I think over the last few games
he's been able to get their messages
whether that's been on the training pitch
or it's half time at the 80-yard stadium
and that just shows
that the players are buying into what he's wanting
to do for this league
and to try and keep leads in the Premier League
as much as possible
and whether that's revolved around
Dominic Alvertlu and strengths
but I think for me
I think to be able to get all your players
on the same page
in a different formation so quickly is so impressive
football hasn't changed
Mark. I mean, I don't want to go back to my area.
But the issue with Manchester City,
you know, he went with
in the first half, he went with James
wide and non-to-wide Metscher
down the middle. The problem leads
have when Metscher plays as a central striker,
is he's a striker who will run him behind.
But he doesn't offer up. He's not good enough
with his hold-up play and his link-up play.
But when I say you've got to get up the pitch,
they couldn't play through Manchester City.
Manchester City smothered them.
They couldn't get out.
You've got to get up the pitch.
So what did Daniel Farker do, as I mentioned earlier,
something which he's been accused of at Leeds fans
for not doing, being proactive, making subs early.
He got Dominic Calvert Lewin on, put him on,
and he bullied the Manchester City backline.
They have that option of going direct.
And if you get players running off him,
and Metscher has that pace, then, you know, he's a threat.
But Conner's right.
He's got different strengths to his game, Dominic Calvert Lewin.
But he has to be the main lead striker, I think,
because Metscher doesn't give them that option.
So then they become predictable.
They'll play through midfield.
They lost long staff is out, I think, for a fair while for them.
But they've coped brilliantly well.
Their fixture list coming up, I think it makes a really interesting reading.
So around Christmas and the New Year,
they're away at Sunderland, they're away at Liverpool,
they're at home to Manchester United,
and they're away at Newcastle.
And on the one hand, do you think,
Blimey, that's four tough games.
But then on the other hand, Chris, you think,
do you know what?
The way they have roused themselves
for the big games in the last three
is kind of suits them.
It suits the atmosphere at Ellen Road.
It suited them away at Manchester City.
Before those four games,
they've got Brentford away this Sunday
and Palace at home.
And you sort of think those two
may give a better indication
before you get to the four kind of,
The four games where the atmosphere is going to be tasty,
it's no disrespect to Palace or Brentford,
but those other four where the atmosphere is going to be tasty
and everybody rouses themselves.
I mean, their issue has been their way form,
and that's something which Daniel Farker will be aware of.
But if you're a Leeds player and you've just pushed Manchester City,
they deserve something from that game.
You've beaten a Chelsea team who we were all getting excited
about possibly challenging Arsenal.
And then they've come back against Liverpool.
they were two down and then three two down.
So to get results against the likes of those,
why wouldn't there be confidence within the dressing room
that they can perform?
It's just maintaining that level of consistency.
But if I'm a Leeds player and I've played in all the games this season,
I'm thinking we're competitive.
Steph's touched on it.
You know, teams who have come up in recent seasons,
they've fallen away and many of them have fallen away early.
But Leeds are in that they're scrapping,
They're confident
And, you know, why would they fear anybody?
You know, Liverpool away. Liverpool, you know, they've been terrible.
Anybody bothered by the fact that the opt-to-supercomputer still has leads going down, anybody?
The opt-a-what? Supercomputer.
Yeah. Don't tell you. Have you never heard of the opt-s?
I've heard of the supercomputers.
Yeah. Yeah. So the Opt-to-supercomputer has percentage chance of being relegated.
It has wolves at night.
I wouldn't put this in a dressing room if you're wolves.
98% chance of being relegated.
Burnley, 80%.
Leeds 42%
West Ham 39%
and Forest 21%
What's that based off Jappers?
Yeah, it's a great question
It is a good question
And I think they
They try and predict
Every result over the course of the season
Whenever they do the calculation
So they'll have done it this weekend
And then they've come out with that
It'll be interesting
They've done this over the years haven't he?
Well it seems to have become more of a thing
over the last couple of years
I think they partly introduced it
just to annoy John Murray
I am still beating AI in the BBC predictions this season.
Excellent.
Good.
Are you wiping the floor with that, are you?
Well, yeah, I had a little dodgy spell, but it just shows it.
I mean, Connor's question is tell a supercomputer, how do you do it?
They just make it up.
Somebody is just making that up.
Legally speaking, Chris, they don't.
Legally speaking, they don't make it up.
Legally speaking, they don't make it up
and they crunch the numbers with expertise.
You are right.
Good.
Now we have this email from Simon Kirkland.
I was amazed at the start of this evening's programme
that you said that some disgruntled, overpaid Liverpool player
was the only story in town.
I am a villa fan.
We are humble, but the performance on Saturday surely deserves recognition,
plenty of mentions and an analysis of how they did it.
Disappointed yet again that Astonville
have minimal recognition or coverage.
Well, Simon, thank you for email.
What you may or may not know if you're a regular listener
is that one of the regular members of the production team
is an Aston Villa fan
and rarely wants us to talk about them
in case we curse them.
However, he's off ill.
So let's talk about the fact that Aster Villa are third in the table.
They beat Arsenal, five consecutive wins,
nine wins in their last 10.
They're three points off.
Are they in a title race, Steph?
Oh, wow.
You come to me first.
I think they've gotten,
huge impact on the title race. Do I think they'll win it? Potentially not just based on
squad depth and the players that they have in comparison to other squads, but an unbelievable
performance against Arsenal Saturday. I think that was a villa that we've seen last season
when they were competing in the Champions League. What Unae Emery has done with that team is not only
the players that he's brought in, but in terms of coaching players to be better and you're seeing
the likes of Morgan Rogers having bigger impacts on bigger games. Ollie Watkins is back into
form and I think when teams go
to Villa Park as well it's not a great
place to go and that's been shown this season
so I think they have a chance
of competing in the Champions League next year
if they keep up the form but in terms
of title race I think they've got a big
impact on it but potentially
not win it. Una Emery putting his
program notes on Saturday have been asked about the
title race but you know how I think
keep humble words of a title
race are empty until April or May
were starting December these are headlines
I dislike and this last
point is probably a fair
reflection of where it's at, Chris.
Many people who put us there now,
i.e. in the title race, were thinking
in August that we were a finished team.
Yeah, that's probably true.
I don't know who he's talking about there.
No, in general, but you go back
to the start of the season. Four or five games
they hadn't scored.
Yeah, no, it's right. They had a dreadful start.
And then everybody was
thinking, you know, was that the
maybe the effects of last
season and I don't think they did a great deal of work in the
transfer market but they are in a title race I mean
and they're in a title race because all right then if you start
to the season they've beaten Manchester City they've beaten
Arsenal they're thereby right you do I do agree with Steph that
do they have a deep enough squad but the other thing is
is Ollie Watkins hasn't really gotten going for them
you know you think actually if he starts to really hit the heights
which he is capable of you know they could they could go up you know even
another level. So I think
you can't be anything
other than impressed by Unai Emory's team
and they're very principled in the way that
they play. While football has changed
this year in terms of
being more of a set piece game
and, you know, Arsenal are more direct.
I mean, Uni Emory just carries on playing the way
which they've always played and, you know, he
provokes the press and they'll, you know, they'll
play out from the back through the thirds.
They're a great watch and I think
Steph touched on Morgan
and Rogers, he struggled at the start of the season.
He did, but now he's finding his form.
McGins a huge player for them.
So, yeah, fair play to Aston Villa.
They are in a title race.
We also have to remember, we were doing the game a couple of weeks ago.
They beat Wolves 1-0.
Walls had a couple of chances in that first half.
The winner came from outside the box.
It's only two weeks ago that we were talking about
how the majority of their goals were being scored
from outside the box, and they couldn't keep doing that.
And their XG differential wasn't great and put them in the bottom half.
and actually you then go on to the Wednesday game
which we were doing this week
and they went 2-0 down at Brighton
so they have even up until Saturday lunchtime
there has still been question marks
every time they've played virtually
even though they're on this incredible run
still question marks chappas but still
I think they've got more gears to go through
I still think they can go through more gear
they're an outstanding football team
I love him as a manager I think he's absolutely brilliant
I really do I think his words there that you just mentioned
the way he spoke about being in a title race.
I agree with Chris. I think they're in a title race.
I think they're in it. Will they win it? It's going to be really, really tough.
But I think they're in a title race.
And I love, I think the midfield three for them is right up there in the league.
I think the midfield three is outstanding.
Your Anarnia, your Kamara and your Tealman's as the midfield three.
And then he had Morgan Rogers out on the left and McGee out on the right and Watkins through the middle.
That's up there with one of the best because of the way they play and the way they're doing things,
the way they're doing, the way they sticks to principles.
They know what they're doing.
There's a structure about them.
And as a reason, the third in the division,
because they're a fantastic football team
with a brilliant manager.
But do they need more options?
You'd say yeah, but we've seen teams go a long way,
not win the league,
but we've seen teams go a long way
and have one of them incredible seasons.
Now, let's be honest,
Aston Villa don't need to win the league
to have an incredible season.
Aston Villa can finish third
and have an incredible season
that much of a good side.
And if they go and finish third
in the league, it's an unbelievable season for them.
So would do Nye Emery say
he wants more options, of course you will
because you'll want a bigger squad.
He'll sit there and I'll go within the league.
Can we just can we go a little bit further?
for that you need a bigger squad
but I just think they're doing
brilliant as they go along at the minute
he has a fair few options though
I mean Bundia coming off the bench
Marlon has a
he always makes a difference when he comes on
and you know he's I think you score more goals
than Ollie Watkins this season
so they have a few
it's just if they get injuries to
to big players it's whether they have
enough depth
Buendia's renaissance is
one of the more heartwarming
football stories isn't it
that was amazing on Saturday I think you can tell
is celebration how much that meant to him
and I think players like that
and what you need are football clubs like
Ashton Villa because they realise
how much it is and how grateful they are to play
and I think when you mentioned about the midfield
I think I love Tealemans
I think him coming back from injury
is such a crucial part of how Villa player
and how they take he can do the dirty side of the game
but also he's got a good attack and forward thinking
and I think that's why Morgan Rogers
and the likes of Ollie Watkins are benefiting
because there's getting more forward power
earlier and yeah
Villa are so good to watch
and I'm really pleased for them
because I think the start of the season
I think we were all thinking
did they not sign enough players in the summer
did they maybe need a few changes
they just didn't hit the ground running
but look I think in this league now
it's so competitive and when you kind of pick up wins
and they've picked up five in a row now
it means that you can go from say 12 to
in them Champions League places
does it not feel a little bit you know the division this year
feels a little bit like the championship doesn't it
in terms of how it is how quickly you can move
stuff just mention it there
So the league is absolutely crazy this year
but it's full credit to Aston Villene I and me
the players that they've got there
that they're really doing what they're doing
when you're talking about Tealeman's there
Steph when I first went to Leicester
the lad's raved off him
honestly the lad said he was one of them
He just left when I got there
but the lad's absolutely raved off
Connor when you have someone like that in a team
though you know that it just brings
extra confidence within the team
when he's back isn't it really
yeah fantastic
did he leave because he knew you were coming in
he left on a free
Chris I liked him to stay
but he left on a free
You are a horrible man at times.
There's no team in Europe, Chris,
that's put together more home wins
across the previous three years than Villa.
So I understand you and I'm going to be so ridiculous
to talk about a title race in December.
But if you are strong at home
and only Crystal Palace have beaten them at Villa Park
since Arsenal last visited in August of 2024,
if you are strong at home, that's your platform.
Totally agree.
I just, I don't know why we have.
I know they had a dodgy start of the season,
but it is odd that, you know,
we're only talking about Villa now being in a title race
because, you know, in recent seasons,
they haven't really pushed as they have this season.
But, you know, why can't they push this season?
Manchester City seemed to have a vulnerability about them.
Arsenal, who I thought wouldn't show any real weakness this season,
have done in recent weeks.
They're having a wobble.
So, you know, why not, Villa?
Do you want to know some in Conner?
I'd love to know something in the future.
The Opta supercomputer rates their title chances at 5.9%.
Does it?
It does, which it may not sound that high,
but it's five times more than what they rate Chelsea's title chances at 1.2%.
And nine times higher than Liverpool's title chances at 0.7%.
Brilliant.
Thanks.
This is the Monday nightclub with Mark Chapman.
On the Football Daily Podcast.
Let's talk Hart, who beat Celtic yesterday at
Celtic Park
Wilfrey announced
his first game in
charge
they go three points
clear at the
top of the table
they won
2 1
Liam Corbett
Hart's fan
from This is
My Story
podcast
did you go there
believing that
you would win
could win
no I think
that we probably
still pre-program
to fear
going to Glasgow
to be honest
with you
but yeah
what a result
utterly
I was actually
I won't lie
I was a wee bit
more confident
when I'd
seen that Celtic
had just decided
to Chuck Everett
and Martin
or Neil had done out the window.
I felt that was
a good opportunity for us
in, you know, we weathered the first
15 minutes and then I think
we done a number on Celtic. I think that
Derek McKinness scored it spot on.
And as the game went on,
I know they scored in the 93rd minute, but I actually
felt that we were pretty controlled
and if anybody was, I felt like
we could score every time we went forward
because they were just, it was crazy.
It was, they were wide open all over
in the place. I know that the memes are going around with
with a magnet board out
but it was comical
at points just how crazy
they were set up.
The sort of bigger picture of it
given the run that you've been on
is as important as the three points
isn't it for a title race?
Yeah and the thing was that
we've actually played okay
the Motherwell game aside
we were pretty rank rotten against Motherwell
but we played pretty well against Aberdeen
just didn't take our chances
we play okay against Coman Lake at home
but you get the sucker punch at the end
So I was never worried that we weren't still hitting the heights.
We were still seeing the patterns of play that we like.
We were still doing what we've made us where we are for the league.
So I wasn't too worried, but it was good to see us back to our sort of aggressive best yesterday,
which is getting wide and high and getting balls into the box.
And Shankland is just, you know, Shankland and the team and leads the line is phenomenal.
It's no surprise that the only game we have lost this season is a game in which Shankland never played.
So, yeah, it was a massive three points in the context of the title race.
Derek McKinness's quote is interesting, isn't it?
We had to change the narrative a wee bit.
Our fight is with ourselves, not with Celtic.
Yeah, he's been doing that all season.
He's been doing that all season.
He's been trying to keep the noise.
He also tried to drum up this narrative that everybody's against us
and, you know, he likes to shut people up when to be fair.
I mean, that bit is nonsense, isn't it?
I mean, apart from Hibbs and probably Celtic now,
I can't imagine anybody else is against you, are they?
Yeah.
and you
I was going to say
and maybe Chris
Celtic are in that weird
situation where
anybody but Rangers
but then anybody but us
so they're in this weird
situation where it is like
but yeah everybody else
has been right behind
and it's good
it's good for Scottish football
I think Aberdeen had a stretch
last season where they
looked like they could potentially
do something but
Celtic were winning
week and week out
and Aberdeen never really got in front of them
this season
both Rangers in Celtic look nowhere near
their best and
we look like we've come through a little wobble there
if we win on Saturday we've got Rangers at home next
it could be massive for hearts the next three weeks
if we can continue to be there or thereabouts
do you think there was too much made of the run
you went on with seven points from 18
I thought so from the outside
drawing away at Motherwell not
the worst result it was the Kilmarnet game
wasn't it the one before the Celtic game
where they equalised late on.
But I always felt with Derek McKinness teams.
I mean, he's a hugely experienced manager.
And, you know, I do take your point that the way that Celtic set up yesterday
had done his homework on Wilfred Nancy and the way that his Columbus crew team played.
You know, and you said as a Hartz fan, you actually thought, right, do you know what,
we've got a better chance now.
But do you think January is the key month for all the clubs, Hart, Celtic and Rangers,
and who gets the better of the January?
transfer window.
Yeah, I think so.
I think it'll be big.
We've already done some early business.
We've got Islam Chesnikov.
He's the Kazakhstan International
that's been highly spoke of.
We've got the Brazilian Azure that we signed
in the summer that we just can't get fit.
But I still think we'll do some business.
And that's where I'm most excited
because I think that's where this title race feels different
to the Aberdeen one is that Tony Bloom
and the Jamestown Analytics is what drives it.
And we've only had it.
There's our first shot of it in the summer transfer window.
and it's transformed our team, you know, Claudio O'Bragga
playing in the second tier in Norway.
I think he might be the joint top goal scorer in the league
with his goal yesterday. He looks phenomenal.
Kizaridis, he'll be chapping on the door
to be getting a Greece call-up.
He's been phenomenal, the return for me Shanklin.
Stuart Finley as well, like you said,
Derek McKinness, in his knowledge of Scottish football,
he's went over to Comarnik and took Stuart Finley,
and if he can do the same with Watson in the midfield,
had Pee absolutely delighted.
So, yeah, it's a huge window.
Liam, thank you very much for coming on.
That's it for Monday Night Club this week.
Connor, Steph, Chris, thank you all.
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