Football Daily - Ngumoha snatches Liverpool win & Mainoo considers Man Utd exit

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

Pien Meulensteen presents reaction to Liverpool's dramatic win over Newcastle. Michael Brown, Sami Mokbel and Neil Atkinson join Pien after Liverpool make it two wins from two.Arne Slot's side were se...conds from taking just a point away from St. James' Park despite leading 2-0 and having a man advantage after Anthony Gordon's red card. But 16-year-old Rio Ngumoha came off the bench to spare Liverpool's blushes, and become the youngest goalscorer in the club's history.The panel also discuss Alexander Isak's future, and why Kobbie Mainoo could be on his way out of Manchester United.Timecodes: 01:20 Liverpool snatch last gasp win 07:45 Ngumoha makes history 12:50 Liverpool's fragilities exposed? 16:45 Alexander Isak's future still uncertain 20:20 Will Yoane Wissa leave Brentford? 23:40 Kobbie Mainoo open to United exit 26:15 Alejandro Garnacho & Jadon Sancho 27:50 Could the 'bomb squad' outlast Ruben Amorim?BBC Sounds / 5 Live EFL Cup commentaries: Wed 2000 Grimsby Town v Man Utd

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Starting point is 00:00:00 BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. This is the Football Daily podcast on BBC Sounds. Hello and welcome to the Football Daily podcast with me P. Moolenstein. Coming up, we'll react to a Premier League classic after Liverpool beat Newcastle in dramatic fashion at St James's Park, and we'll also wrap up the latest transfer news from the Premier League. And joining me for that is the former Premier League midfielder Michael Brown and the BBC's senior football correspondent Sammy Mockbell,
Starting point is 00:00:29 Sammy, good to see you. Have you had any rest bike from football this weekend? None atopian. It's just overwhelming at the minute. But listen, we've got less than a week left and then we can rest. And Michael, what's your excuse for not being in the studio today? Better be a good one.
Starting point is 00:00:46 As you can see behind me, I've given you a little taste of where I am. I mean, Abbassock. Okay. In North Wales, on my holidays. But I couldn't miss the football daily, so I've dialed in even on my holidays, period. So you can't give me any excuse, can you?
Starting point is 00:00:59 No, that's very considerate of you. And for those that can't see what is behind Michael's head is a picture of a beach. Is that actually Abassock Beach? That's Abbassock Beach, yeah. I mean, the little work hub and the Warren's all nice. Just enjoying the last few days of my holiday. The dream's nearly over p.m. Friday, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Really? Lacks of work fully no more. It's not good. Okay. Well, there is only one place to start. Liverpool made it two wins from two in the Premier League with a dramatic win over Newcastle at St James's Park. Liverpool were 2-0 up in the game and had a man advantage
Starting point is 00:01:32 following Anthony Gordon's straight red card in the first half stoppage time. But then 10 men of Newcastle fought back with Bruno Gimerich halving the deficit and William Asula equalising in the 88th minute. And then in a spectacular ending, 16-year-old Rio Ngamoa marked his Premier League debut by becoming the youngest goal scorer in the club's history with a 100th minute winner. We can hear it from the managers Eddie Howen Arna Slot. But first, here's
Starting point is 00:02:00 winner that actually interrupted Rory Smith on the Monday Night Club. And then they've got Manicior who they paid the money for to Milan. Oh my word. Ailey Barba. Oh my goodness. The Liverpool players are running up the touchline because Big Rio
Starting point is 00:02:17 has introduced himself to the Liverpool faithful. What a beautiful strike of the ball. It was worked down the right hand side. Played across the middle. little dummy. It felt him at the backpost. No Newcastle player around him. He caressed it and curled it into the far post. No chance for Nick Pope. What an end to this game. And Liverpool are going to grasp all three points right at the death thanks to their 16-year-old substitute. It is
Starting point is 00:02:48 Newcastle 2, Liverpool 3. Relief, because if you're 2 in love against 10 men, I wouldn't say You don't expect that they come back because the style of play they had which was completely normal but so many long balls then there's not too much into an advantage of having an extra player so yeah if they then come back to 2-2
Starting point is 00:03:04 maybe even deserved then to end with a goal with the best attack we had during the whole game and that's a feeling of relief great performance from the players both first and second half in very different ways first off I thought we dominated the game
Starting point is 00:03:18 I thought we were in a really good place just the goal missing and then of course second half We amounting to climb at 2-0 down 10 men. But I thought we controlled the game. I thought we were really, really good and fought our way back unbelievably well, but just couldn't get over the line at the end to get a point.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Unbelievable commentary, by the way, from Ailey Barber there, who was at St James's Park to witness that moment. Well, delighted to say, Neil Atkinson from the Anfield Wrap is with us. Neil, did you enjoy that moment last night? I enjoyed it again there from Haley, to be honest with you. She very much captured it brilliantly. It was, the manager says there. It's Liverpool's best attack of the match,
Starting point is 00:03:51 and it really is. It's a lovely move. You know, it's so odd that Liverpool were able to dig that out in the 100th minutes. Given the fact that a different part of the game, I thought that Liverpool were quite poor. And yet, suddenly, everyone's present, everyone's part of that move. Liverpool set it up brilliantly. It's great work from three or four players. And then it is just a spectacular finish.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You know, he takes it first time, hopes, momentum's taking him the wrong way. He strikes it so firmly, so certainly into the corner. You know, it's an absolutely brilliant goal. it's a goal that's worthy of taking the points even if Liverpool will look back and think maybe we should have got into this mess but he's such an exciting prospect Michael we knew it was going to be good
Starting point is 00:04:31 but did you expect it to be that good? Honestly I was watching it and I'm thinking here we go I was with a lot of Liverpool fans and the place I was in just completely erupted in North Wales you can imagine full of Liverpool supporters going crazy the ending was special I mean it's heartbreaking for Newcastle
Starting point is 00:04:48 isn't it to actually contribute the way they did with 10 men how they've obviously had the situation with ESAC, which I'm sure we'll discuss later, for them to dig in, to find a formula, find a way, a manager with a great understanding now, great tactical awareness, almost did Liverpool yet again, for them to come back. I mean, a 90th minute sort of substitution for a young man to come on like that. It deserved to interrupt the Monday nightclub. That's why I say.
Starting point is 00:05:16 We're going to come on to that last minute winner in a minute. But Neil, just talk to me about your emotions watching that game all night last night. It was, firstly, it was great to be in Newcastle. You know, I had a fantastic couple of days in Newcastle, to be honest. We had a love the place. It's always good to get to go and be around. So, you know, Newcastle was great. And then obviously getting in there, you know, where in the first 20 minutes of their intensity.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And it was everything that you expected, you know, there'll be a lot of chat about the atmosphere. But the atmosphere is always great whenever we play at St. James's Park. So there's nothing different there for me. I think that something happens around 25 minutes in the game Newcastle miss a good chance Neil that's probably the best atmosphere in the Premier League isn't it at St James's Park's incredible isn't it I mean I would allow it to be a noble second
Starting point is 00:05:59 to be on a bit of that Neil come on I didn't expect that about 25 minutes they feel I think as though they should have scored there's a good there's a good save from a decent header from Gordon and I think that that's when Newcastle just begin to lose the run themselves a little bit. There's a couple of tackles that are coming in a little bit later and later. Dan Byrne is I think fortunate with something on salad and then Gordon gets himself into a pickle and by that point Liverpool have gone one-nill up and I think that just the managing of the emotions of
Starting point is 00:06:30 the whole spectacle began to get a little bit difficult and then second half Liverpool go 2-0 Gamerish talks himself into a yellow card not long thereafter and that's where Liverpool and it happened the previous week against Bournemouth around the hour mark in both of these games Liverpool's concentration I think is something they're going to have to think about the 2-0-0 up in both of them and in different ways they ceded the initiative to the opposition and they got punished on both occasions but then managed to pull it out from the fire at the end so you're watching all of that you're living that journey with them you're delighted obviously when it goes 1-0 up and then you're hit in half time and they're down to 10 and you think right this is as good an opportunity as we're
Starting point is 00:07:05 going to get to win here to be clear take the exact situation out you know it's a really last season Arsenal don't win there Manchester City don't win there we don't win there you know it's a really difficult ground to go and get three points from if you're a good side so you think we've got a really good chance to do that and then 2-0 and then to watch them sort of... Do you need Isak? Do you need Isak? Do you think he's the one? Do you think he's going to make the difference to stop this concern? Liverpool need two attackers. You know, at the minute, Liverpool are two players.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Last season Liverpool had five really good forwards. Who could start games on a regular basis and at the minute they've only got three. Part of why Liverpool win the league last year is they're really well stocked in attack. And obviously there's tragic circumstances around one aspect of this. But Liverpool currently need, you know, I think they need two forwards, not just one. Well, just when Newcastle thought that they've stolen a point from the jaws of defeat up pops Rio Ungamoa in the 100th minute. Sammy, I'm going to ask this one to you.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Were Liverpool happy to let sort of the Diaz-Nunez situation depart because of Ngamoa's quality? And that is what we saw last night. I think that was certainly a fact, Pian. Yeah, you know, to the outside world, Rio Ingamoa burst onto the scene last night. But those in the industry and those who follow Academy football and those youth ranks have known about Rio Ingamoa
Starting point is 00:08:18 for years really he's without a shadow of a doubt as nailed on certainty you're going to get to make a top professional football as you're going to get provided he's got the right guidance and gets the right advice
Starting point is 00:08:36 and he doesn't surround himself with yes people then he will go to the absolute very top and without a doubt, you know, I guess I know that part of the reason that they were, they, you know, they let Diaz go
Starting point is 00:08:53 and Darwin-Nus go was because they had this boy chomping at the bit to come through and last night was to a point of vindication of that but the true test now will be can he do it again and again? I don't think he's going to start games
Starting point is 00:09:11 so this is my, I'm in dispute with Sammy and Liverpool here I just don't think he's going to start games. And I don't think you're a first-team squad option unless the manager would pick you from the start. So we'll start the AFL Cup games. But, you know, imagine Liverpool end up where GACPO in the fourth coming international break,
Starting point is 00:09:27 get to hamstring strain, out for four weeks. How many games would, not just Rio Ingrammo, by the way, Harvey Elliott, Federico Keiza, how many times would darn a slot pick any of those players from the start? And I don't think any of them are getting more than two. In the seven games, that would sit between the two international breaks. I am very in favour of Rio Ingramower
Starting point is 00:09:45 being Liverpool's sixth best forward over the course of the season because by the end of the season I think he could be Liverpool's fifth, fourth, third best forward but when games are coming thick and fast do you want to be picking a player that young I just don't think that Liverpool do and I don't think that Arna Schlott does
Starting point is 00:10:01 so for me Liverpool will say they don't want to block the pathway for Rio Ingramower and that's perfectly reasonable but Arnashlot needs footballers to retain a title and we're in a really good shout to retaining this title and it would be a real shame if Liverpool failed to do so especially after a lot of other really good business if Liverpool failed to do so by virtue of literally not having enough attackers
Starting point is 00:10:22 that is the concern as far as I'm concerned and you know you've got to I want to see Liverpool be certain with the rest of this window and Liverpool need five forwards the manager is happy to pick in any game are they not doing the job then are they not doing the job then Neil because you know you're looking as a supporter a very experienced one understand the game so so are they not in a line
Starting point is 00:10:43 or have they been caught short? What is it then if it's that? It's worth saying that again if the tragedy of what happens around Diego Jotters isn't there, Liverpool sign Isaac and then back to five forwards. So I think that there's an element of that has been a thing.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I think they were always going to let Nunez go in this window no matter what. And I suspect they probably came to an arrangement with Lewis Diaz because they weren't prepared to give him another contract that if a club was prepared to pay a certain figure, they would let him go. And Liverpool, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:11 maintain excellent relationships the players with former players. Liverpool, I think, let Keller go in this window and a little bit of a cut-price deal because they appreciated he'd done one more year than maybe he wanted to. So I think Liverpool, you know, they tried to do right by their footballers. They try to act honourably towards the footballers. And I think that's
Starting point is 00:11:26 why Nunez was, I think, was always going to go. And I think that basically by Munich were prepared to pay the amount of money Liverpool wanted for Lewis Diaz. And then Liverpool didn't feel as though they could stand in his way anymore. You know, Diaz supposedly wasn't as well paid at Liverpool as he, as a lot of his contemporaries
Starting point is 00:11:43 and he's gone on and got a really good contract at the age of 28 of Bayern Munich. So I think Liverpool tried to be sound in these ways and if they say that this is what a player's worth and someone hits that, they sell. I just think that at the minute they need to be a little bit careful
Starting point is 00:11:56 that they don't. And listen, lots of us would see, for instance, Harvey Elliott is a first team squad option, but the manager didn't pick him last season. You know, and for whatever reason, I really like Harvey Elliott, I think he's a really good player, but the manager didn't pick him last season. He very rarely actually selected him from the start.
Starting point is 00:12:10 so when I say about having five options from the start last season Liverpool did have that in Nunez in Jota Diaz, Gacpo and Sala this season at the minute they've got three so until that's addressed I think at ease I can be one but then I think there still does need to be one more and if that means Harvey Elliott needs to go
Starting point is 00:12:26 or Keyes needs to go because you obviously keep Rio if that means that they need to move on to create the room financially or whatever then do that but at the minute I just worry that we're ever so slightly understocked in attack and we're not able to make the change changes we will need to be able to make when the games start to really, really intensify. Michael, do you think in the performance yesterday from Liverpool against Newcastle that
Starting point is 00:12:49 some of their fragilities were a bit exposed? I mean, I think I keep saying this as well. It's so early on in the season. You've got new players coming in to try and change the outcome to keep this, the level of performance at Liverpool. And you're going away to Newcastle, it's a difficult play. So I feel like they will, they will take time to get in the stride. We've seen that with with so many teams so early on in this Premier League campaign. We can talk about Canate, we can talk about, do you defend from the front?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Is that line going to be the one that's going to set it off? I mean, are they a couple short at the top? Yes, you've got to look at that, and I'm sure they're trying to address it now. Obviously, one extra one is the one that's obviously caught them short. We know they're going to do business in the next couple of days. I think that's been well aligned. Sammy might be able to tell us a little bit more on that
Starting point is 00:13:36 if it's getting closer or not. I think it's hard to criticise them, the fragile in certain places, but I think we've got to be careful. We've got to see a real good team ethic, a reaction about winning games when you're not playing so well, and that's a good sign for Liverpool. You ask Arne Slot, if he'd have took those first two results, he'd have bit your hand off, uncertainty, getting into the squad.
Starting point is 00:13:56 He had a wonderful start last season. Kerkers has come under a little bit of pressure, no defensively how he's going to ask. He's come a long way in a very short period of time. Everybody's liked him and admired what he's brought. to the game so there's different aspects I think there's people just finding the way as I keep saying but you know deep down he'll say was a lot to to improve I feel like if he'd have won 3-0 twice and he felt that the game was thought the game was
Starting point is 00:14:21 good enough they created chances they look quite solid he would have still been looking to improve get back to understanding what the team are about the strengths the weaknesses that's only that's only common now at this stage analysts will and coaches testing each other out will be trying to to give more detail. And then they get onto the training ground. Still about minutes early on in the season where you have a gap
Starting point is 00:14:43 to try and get your team in a better way. I think as well, the next thing as well, is the transfer window peeing. You know, we're never really fully sure. There's uncertainty about every player. There'll be some players in that Liverpool team might be thinking, I've got someone else over my shoulder wanting to go.
Starting point is 00:15:00 What do I do? How do I play this week? It just, it's... He'll be okay with it, I'm telling you. Are you excited for the end of this? transfer window now, Neil, or are you wanting to go on a little bit longer? I think I'm transferred out. I'd like us to get what we need to get done, done and go from there. I just want to crack out. Listen, what matters is always what's on the grass.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And I think actually Liverpool's first two performances are a great example of that. You know, Liverpool, I think, have recruited brilliantly. But it takes time to get teams to gel. It just takes time. Neil, if you had a choice, who would you pick, Isak or Gay, if you had, if you had a choice of I mean, I'm livid. I've got to choose between the two. And then I pick Isaac, but I then want to go and get a different centre back as well. You know, Liverpool... So you're pick Isaac, right?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, you pick Isaac because he's a game-changing footballer. He's remarkable. But I think ultimately Liverpool have got it to be doing those two, and I'll keep saying it. I do want that to them also then be one more. I may not get my way, but part of what powered Liverpool last season was having five excellent starting options in attack.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It was literally part of what brought us to the party and kept us there. Neil, thank you so much for your time. You've been brilliant. Thank you. Speak to you soon. The 72 plus on the Football Daily. I'm Aaron Paul.
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Starting point is 00:16:28 which is quite remarkable, really. That's 72 Plus, the EFL podcast, only on the Football Daily. Listen on BBC Sounds. This is the Football Daily podcast from Five Live Sports. Right, we just mentioned there a little bit about trancers. Michael already put the question to Neil about whether he'd like Isak or Gay. Of course, the Isak situation continues for another day, Sammy. Any more you can tell us about that situation.
Starting point is 00:16:53 We heard there were reports at Jamie Rubin and a public investment fund delegation. They met with Alexander Isak at his house to try and convince him to stay. Are we any closer to seeing a resolution? What's going on? I don't think we're any closer to seeing a resolution pin, but those talks with Alexander Isak, I'm told, from Newcastle's perspective, didn't end the way they wanted him. I think the player still wants to leave St James's Park, he still wants to go to Liverpool, and Newcastle still have an almighty mess to clear up, basically.
Starting point is 00:17:27 For that deal to happen, I think I said this to you, to both of you last week, There are three steps of conditions that need to be met. They need to get two strikers in and then Liverpool need to get to a number that Newcastle see fit to sell Alexander Isak. All of those stipulations and conditions at the moment are going to be very, very difficult to be met. Newcastle appeared to be no closer to getting two strikers in
Starting point is 00:17:57 and then even if they do, are Liverpool going to get to the 130 or something? to the reported 150 million pound deal that Newcastle want to part with him. There's still a lot of obstacles that need Liverpool need to overcome here if you are to get Alexander
Starting point is 00:18:14 ESAC. But now that game is out of the way from Monday. Nothing was going to happen before then. We were all informed about that and we all said it was going to be a process that started on the Tuesday to the Monday. We've started that process now so it will be interesting to see
Starting point is 00:18:29 Do you think they'll go sign? Do you think they'll do it? Do you think it'll go through? Yeah, with every passing day, Brownie, I just, it's going to be tougher and tougher because I look at the landscape now for strikers, for Newcastle. I just, I don't see an obvious one. I just don't see an obvious one. The ones have all been taken away, haven't they?
Starting point is 00:18:50 That's your point. Exactly. Exactly. All the best ones have gone, and you're now, for the want of a better place. Why did they not move on that, Sammy? Is that because of the people behind, the actor, football? What is it that they didn't get done? Because they knew that was there from April, May.
Starting point is 00:19:06 We all knew it was there, Sammy. We all looking. Like, they've got, they can't surely have missed all of them. Do you know, what, like, what were they thinking? And, mate, they tried, think about it. Hugo I'm Eckertique. They got done by Liverpool. Well, that's right.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Liverpool made it harder for almost for themselves by, like, doing that deal. Yeah, yeah, quite, exactly. Benjamin SESCO went to United. They failed there. So they were the two main options. They've now turned their attentions to Larson at Wolves, had a 50 million pound offer for him rejected. They can't get this deal for Visser over the line.
Starting point is 00:19:42 That's been going on for four. That was going on when I was in Greece four weeks ago. I was expecting to come back off my sunbed, and it's still going on. And you're there for weeks as well. Exactly. And we're still here, and we're still here, and Visser is still trying to force his way out of Brentford,
Starting point is 00:20:01 and Newcastle can't get that deal done. So every indication that we've had so far is that Issaq's going to stay because Newcastle can't get these deals done? And then even if they do get these deals done, can Liverpool get to the figure that Newcastle want? Which is that, that's, you know, there's even doubt over that. Just on Wissar as well, Sammy, we've heard reports as well as Skyre reporting this morning
Starting point is 00:20:23 that Brentford are considering a move for Borussia Dortmunds, Max Bayer. Would that be a possible door to open then for Wissar to be? able to leave, do you reckon? You would imagine that should, from Viss's perspective and his advisor's perspective, would finally unlock that. But I say finally because they were of the assumption or of the information that once Brentford completed the signing of Dango, Atara, that he could go, provided that Newcastle met the asking price or put in a sufficient bid.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Atara's in at Brentford, in the building. Yeah, Vista is still hanging on for it. his move to Newcastle. Sammy, it was some big result for Brentford to win that game, wasn't it, at weekend? Because then thinking everyone's looking doom and gloom about what players they've got, where is that? So there might be of the thought that they can maybe do something now. Yeah, I was chuff for, I was chuff for Keith Andrews, but you fear for Keith Andrews,
Starting point is 00:21:21 don't you? Because it's his first job, Premier League, you know, we know there's going to be some bumps in the road. That was a big bump in the road against Forrest on the first day of the season. season. So I was shuff for him mainly. But it also goes to, you know, it also goes to prove that for them that there is life after Thomas Frank. There's going to be life after in Burmo, Fleckon's gone, the captain's gone, Norgaard. So now they've got that three points over the line. Maybe they will look at this situation and say, look, we can cope
Starting point is 00:21:53 without him. Let's do a deal. Get a player that wants to be here. This has made it abundantly clear that he wants to go to Newcastle. Michael, just going back to the Alexander Isak situation, if he does end up staying at Newcastle, how would that impact performances on the pitch, do you reckon? Peeing. You have to ask him all these naughty questions. How will it happen?
Starting point is 00:22:14 Do you know, imagine what he's there? If he's staying, like, how does he walk back into that dressing room? That's what I mean, though. How are the players going to receive the whole situation? What are the players are going to say? Well, hang on, he's got a load more money. That's why he's being picked. I stay.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I think the one thing I'd be saying is where is he now? Because we really need him. Do you know the difference when they played tight games? He seemed to go to 10 men. Isaac is vital for them. They'll be delighted in some way. I think a few of them will be a little bit disappointed that he's not helping them out now.
Starting point is 00:22:42 He's looking after himself. I think they'll understand why that is as players. I think we all do. But he could have still been doing his job by also saying, I want to go, but I'm also going to train every single day as hard as I can. I'm going to play on the weekends. Eddie Howell certainly make me available
Starting point is 00:22:58 because I'm a good player and I do the right things. We discussed it so many times. The one thing he's got wrong, but he's so good, and if his show is a willing and a desire to help his teammates, I'm sure they'll be,
Starting point is 00:23:11 and Eddie would be absolutely buzzing that he's going to be there, but I don't know how this ends because it's a real mess because of how far it's gone. If that window closed and he's still there, what is next? This could be as interesting as it gets.
Starting point is 00:23:26 We might see a player not even training with the group. Yeah, okay, well, a couple of days left of this transfer window and very exciting to see what happens all the way up until that final day. Let's round up some of the other transfer news. Of course, there have been reports over the last couple of days linking Manchester United's Cobby Mayne with a move away from Old Trafford. The Manchester United manager, Ruben Amarim, said this about him that he is fighting for a position now with Bruno Fernandez. He said that he needs to fight for the position with Bruno in training like it should be at Manchester United. Sammy, what can you tell us about this situation?
Starting point is 00:24:01 If you've got to fight with the captain of the football club for your position, it doesn't bode well for Cobby Maynoot. Look, my understanding of that situation at the moment is at Maynoe, I think reluctantly will consider offers moving forward because I think he's realised that maybe his opportunities at Man United are going to be few and far between this season, given that his direct competition is the captain of the football club. I think there'll be a lot of takers.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I think there'll be a lot of takers. Chelsea have historically had an interest in Kobi Manu, but I think they're pretty well stocked in central midfield at the moment. But in a World Cup year, for a guy, let's not forget, that started in the Euro 2024 final for England, he needs to be playing football, and he needs to be given, in my opinion, serious consideration to... Is there any way you think, Samuel?
Starting point is 00:24:55 Is any way you think that would suit him on that? Like, could it be alone? You know, like, he needs to play, doesn't he? Do you know, I get that? I think it's ridiculous from the manager to say that the one person who kept the whole team and club alive last year was Bruno Fernandez. He was absolutely brilliant, led everything by example.
Starting point is 00:25:14 How was he going to get past? He's never going to drop him, is he? Do you know? Yeah, he's going to have to go down, sort of maybe a rung down the ladder of the Premier League table than he would want to. And I'd imagine, for Cobby, as important as it is to be playing first team football that maybe going down when you're
Starting point is 00:25:33 at Man United and then going down the food chain as it were to maybe it's what we might call a lesser club that situation would be fraught with kind of concerns I'd imagine for a young footballer because once you know you're at Man United now say if you take a step down if that doesn't go well what happens from there what happens to your career from there and a boy's clearly talented, but sometimes your career is, then Brownie will tell you better than I do, is governed by your transfers and which moves you take. And if you don't make the right one, then you, yeah, you can very quickly become the forgotten man. We've got to ask about a couple of the other players as well in the Manchester United Squad. Gonacho, Sancho, Ante, Malsia. There's a
Starting point is 00:26:20 couple of names there, Sammy. Anything else on them? Garnacho wants to join Chelsea. Those talks are ongoing, but Chelsea are in the market for a number of forwards. And it sounds ridiculous, but they're so well stocked, particularly out wide. But it does appear to me that they want to add at least one more wide attacking player. Javi Simmons at RB Leipzig is one option, and they're really advanced with regard to that deal. Garnacho, I think, will be governed by the price and the price that Chelsea are willing to pay.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Our understanding is that Man United wants 60 million pounds for him and they get that. I'm not sure it might be closer to maybe 50, 40 for him, maybe even less. Would they sell for that? A lot of permutations there with regards to Garnacho that need to play out with regards to Jaden Sancho has interest from Roma,
Starting point is 00:27:16 as I understand it, at the moment. He's not keen on that move and he's waiting to see what else comes up between now and next Monday. But what if for sure that United need to sell? I think that's very important to just to recalibrate the financial books. Spent a lot of money on the three-forward, CESCO and Burmo and the tax cune. So I think now it's important for them just to maybe get rid of some of the players that they don't need and just recalibrate the final ounces. Sam, I'm just going to say, do you know, like there's all these young players, not even
Starting point is 00:27:52 training with them, and Kobe Mayn, who's now got to fight for the captaincy, you know, with the captain to get in the team, so what does he do there, does he become captain, you know? Ruben Amram, very, very good coach, tactically, we like to see what he does, but there's a lot of players seem to not fit into the style and it's like, well, okay, you're not going to be used. And we've just listed four or five there, and we've got another healthy young player, but obviously he's made international level in Kobe Maynou,
Starting point is 00:28:19 are they to rush out of Manchester United, or are they sitting there and going, we've got a manager and a coach who's now got even more senior players, spent more money, not getting the results, do we just sit and wait? He could be gone just around the corner. And I'll fancy me a chance just to wait for the next one coming in
Starting point is 00:28:37 because I was in it before, I can get in it again, I've got the ability. I wouldn't be in too much of a rush. Yeah, I couldn't agree more of you. And that is definitely, from what I hear, and I'm not saying this about the players who are United at the minute, but that is a thought process, as I understand it, that some players who aren't in the team at certain other clubs,
Starting point is 00:29:00 maybe some are United as well, that is something that actually, that is a thought process for them. Maybe I can outlast the manager here. So maybe I just hold on. Why do I need to uproot myself? Why do I, you know, I don't want to leave Man United. Nobody wants to leave Man United. So if I can outlast the manager and I can just sit tight for as long as I can
Starting point is 00:29:19 and if things don't go quite as well as the club and Amarim one, maybe there is an opportunity for me to cling on to a man United career here. All the indications are at the moment that they've backed Ruben Amarim in the transfer market really heavily. So everything appears to suggest that he's going to be given ample time to turn it round and they're backing him. But for sure, I wouldn't shock me if certain players would be thinking maybe I can outlast the manager. Okay, just before we wrap, there are a couple more transfer lines as well to go through. One of those is Borussia Dortmund have signed the England Youth International Carney Chukwameca from Chelsea.
Starting point is 00:29:59 That's on a five-year contract. Crystal Palace have apparently made an approach to sign Manchester City defender Manuel Akangi and German media outlet build are reporting that Chelsea have agreed a deal to loan 24, year old striker, Nicholas Jackson to Bayern Munich. So certainly a couple of those to keep an eye on. Okay, that's it for this episode of the Football Daily. Thank you very much to Sammy and to Michael for joining me. On the next one, Aaron Paul and Jaby McEnough are back with the 72 plus.

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