Football Daily - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - The Football Interview

Episode Date: November 29, 2025

In this week’s edition of the Football Interview, Kelly Somers speaks to former Manchester United player and manager, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. They discuss how he went from being in the army at the age... of 20 to winning the Champions League with Man Utd. They also reflect on Sir Alex Ferguson impacting his journey into management and how his tenure as Man Utd manager came to a close.

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Starting point is 00:00:44 And this week, I'm joined by the former Manchester United player and manager, Olly Garnasolshar. Well, Ollie, good to see you. Good to see you. With football. Why football? Why did you end up in the game? Because football is the best game in the world. I think such an easy game, it connects everyone.
Starting point is 00:01:02 But for me, I can't remember life without football since I was young. My mum and dad, they told me I, one of the first things I kicked was one of the lamps. So I just enjoyed kicking, and it's given me my life, everything. What was it like growing up in your household? What can you remember? So, no, me as a kid, obviously school, football, every recess or every break. Did you work hard at school? I was decent at school and my best subject was maths.
Starting point is 00:01:35 So I was the time, if I wasn't a footballer, I probably would be an accountant or something with numbers or maths. Wow, really? Probably, yeah. And you're a dad now, three children. Yeah. And you've passed a football bug on, I hear. Well, that's, I think they're environmentally damaged. Yeah, they all play football.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And a little bit of history, your daughter, Yeah. Made an appearance from Manchester United Women, didn't she? And I think you're the only father-daughter combination to have both played for Manchester United. I think we are, yeah. I think we are. That must be incredibly proud.
Starting point is 00:02:07 What was that like for you? I was really, really proud when it was an FA Cup game. We drove down. Really good to see her because the passion is football. She loves football and they love football and they enjoy it and it's because they love it. Does your wife like football or does she have no choice? We met on the football pitch more or less.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So yes, she was a very talented footballer. So we used to have in Christensen every Tuesday and Thursday like a talent group that used to train at 7 in the morning 70 late before school and she was in that who wakes up at 7 just to go in or wakes up at 6 to train football you don't you go there to impress or be close to someone that you have a keen eye on so that's the reason I got up in the morning really to play football with Celia. me one thing about yourself that might surprise me I used to yeah well I'm surprised you by saying I would have been an accountant but I used to I used to read and speak backwards so I was quite good at that reading backwards so how does that come about I don't know it's just that's probably my sense of like organizing structure seeing structures more or less every every car I drive and you look at the license plates
Starting point is 00:03:29 what, how can I rearrange those letters or that number or something. The brain's always going, isn't it? My brain's always going, yeah, most of the time. Can you remember a moment where you thought, okay, this could not only be something I enjoy, but potentially I could make it here? Not really, because as a kid, I always used to score goals. But when I got to 15, 16, I was a very late developer. So then I thought, nah, I'm not going to make it in football.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'm just going to enjoy playing football. Then I went into the army when I was 19 to 20. Obviously that says, okay, you're probably not going to be a footballer. But when I got back from the army at 20, I went for it a couple of years. And then suddenly I was in the only 21 national team and playing for Mulder and did well. That's quite a journey, isn't it? And that's quite a change to go from football, army, football. What did being in the army kind of do for you?
Starting point is 00:04:30 It made me more independent. I had to grow up. Suddenly I wasn't living with my mum and dad and my sister anymore. So yeah I think I became a lot more mature. I learnt a lot. Socialising with people from all different places in the country. We're placed there together in the room of six or eight and we've just got to get on. And it was a great year actually. actually. Is it mandatory to go into the army? Was it a choice? Yeah, yeah. So you always knew you were
Starting point is 00:05:01 going to have to do it? Yeah, unless you have a special talent or maybe you're in the national teams and all this. Do you have a special talent? No, I didn't because of all things in the army, we had like an army football team as well. We had a training session maybe once or twice. We had to, there was like a Norwegian championship of army teams. And I was not in in the team in my camp, no. And that's another thing that, okay, I know I'm better than him, I know I'm better than him, I will be better than him, but it's other people's view on what, or I wasn't maybe strong enough or big enough in that team that the way he wanted to play. So it was a kind of a revenge, you know, when you look back and, okay, they didn't believe in me, but I showed all of them.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And you had an illustrious playing career, but of course it's headline by Manchester United Yeah. Talk to me about the first time you knew of a possibility to come over here to England to one of the most decorated clubs in the world. It was. So for Norway, this is probably one of the most important games in my career. We played Norway against Azerbaijan and I scored two very good goals. Coincidentally, Jim Ryan, the assistant manager, he was watching Ronnie Onsen who we signed. He was sat next to Mark McGee. At that time, I'm Wolverhampton manager, chatting as they do. Mark McGee is looking for a centre forward.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Jim Ryan's watching the game, I scored two goals. Oh, perfect. So he thinks, okay, Wolverhampton will probably sign this boy. He rang Sir Alex that night and said, I think I found one and he won't be expensive. It's a cheap one, but we've got to be quick because Wolverhampton are also signing a centre forward, so it went really, really fast. That must have been a whirlwind for you. Brilliant, absolutely top, but you're never 100% sure until you signed a deal.
Starting point is 00:07:01 But I more or less knew, so before my last game from Molde, I said to Ogahara, who was the coach, says, if I score today, I'm going to take my shirt off, throw it into the stands and run off the pitch. He said, oh, no, no, you can't do that. But wait until 10 minutes before full time. And that's exactly what happened. I think I scored the fifth goal, 5-1, and I just threw the shirt in the pitch. ran off the pitch and we had no no sobs ready to come on. So we had to play a few minutes with 10 men. Yeah, it was a world wind of a time. The media were like outside my house or apartment and wanted interviews
Starting point is 00:07:39 and I just tried to stay away from all that. Was that all new, like a whole new level of fame? Of course, because 18 months before Man United I played for Klausening and my local team in front of 50 people. So of course it was a big like big step up in attention. but I think I've been quite okay in handling these situations. I always ask players, and with you it feels even more prominent because you've played in some of the biggest games.
Starting point is 00:08:04 If you could relive one game from your career, what would it be? Of course, the Champions League final in 99. I thought you might say that. I was 80 minutes on the bench, like really, like unhappy with the manager. Why don't you put me on, really? We're losing the game, and it's so, football is so emotional. and he's like, you're so low and you're so, you want to get on the pitch. So 80 minutes of real agony, but then I managed to play 15 minutes,
Starting point is 00:08:32 and those 15 minutes I'd really love to play again. It changed history, of course, changed my life. It didn't make me a better footballer, but of course that changed my life as in we made history and I was the one that was fortunate enough to score that goal. And so many men have come up to me and said, thanked me for giving them the best moment of their lives. Don't tell my wife, please, will you? You mentioned before that you were annoyed with Sir Alex. Obviously, you will have always wanted to start, but you gained this incredible reputation, didn't you? As a super
Starting point is 00:09:06 sub, I know every footballer wants to start every game. How did you embrace that? I had discussions with Sir Alex. I signed a long term contract, so what I did was I put my career in his hands, really. And I more or less said to myself just do your best I've seen so many strikers soaking when they're on the bench and I felt okay someone they've played 70 80 minutes defenders they're tired I come on I can make a difference I'm fresh as long as my head is fresh and my mentality is good if we were winning one-nil I was never gonna come on so I was I never hoped that we were on nil-nil I was like don't
Starting point is 00:09:46 score don't score until he puts me on one-nill down yeah definitely I'm coming on two nil up yeah He'll always give me the 15, 20 minutes just to make me feel part of it. So he was very good at giving me enough minutes, but I knew at 1-0, just sit down only, you're not gonna come on. So 1-0 down against Byron.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I was like, come on then, it's like 20 minutes, no. Like 88 minutes, I think I came on. Yeah, it's one of the 13, 15 minutes, best minutes of my football career. When did management, become the thing? You know, when I was a kid, I was very into football. I used to, me and my cousin, we always used to buy the Rothman's football yearbook every year and that was our Bible. We knew every player in every division in England and we used to make our own game like a management
Starting point is 00:10:40 game. That was the probably prequel to the championship manager game. We should have copyrighted that one. We were really nerdy, freaky into that football and I always I was always playing the computer games, the management games, instead of the FIFA where you play. I've always been into coaching or management and picking teams. I used to coach my, I call it in the local streets, the younger boys. We used to make a team for these tournaments and I was the boss. How old were you at this point? 13, 14.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Oh, wow. So probably I would, I would, I would always had this. manager in me. Then I played at Mani United and I didn't know if I had the personality to be a manager. Say the players in 80s, 90s, or it is different to managing now. Then I got injured. And that's the moment where I decided, oh, I need to stay in the game. That's the time where I decided, okay, I start all these coaching courses and starting to write whatever Sir Alex says. And since I read somewhere that you wrote everything, you kept a notebook. Not everything, but yes, I did suddenly start to try to, instead of just being the player that was told.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And now I'm learning from the best teacher in the world. How does he get the best out of all these players? What tactically, changing his staff, changing the players. So I just started keeping more an eye on him and that part of football. It's the biggest club in the world, one of the biggest clubs. You knew that as a player. But as a manager, that pressure, particularly when things aren't maybe going right, must be really tough. I remember one game, Everton.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I stood there in my technical area, fourth official next to me. Carlo, Angelotti, comes across, so he's more or less in my technical area. And so the fourth official says, Carlo, you need to get back into your technical area unless you want all his job. And Carlo has, Carlos, he's always, he's always got a comment and a smile. He said, no, no, no. Too much pressure. That job is too much pressure. So he walked back to his technical area and I thought, you know, pressure is a privilege.
Starting point is 00:13:03 He's always said that as well. And I felt privileged to be the manager of Man United. But of course, it's not the same as playing. As a player, you just do your job. Suddenly now you're the manager. You're the face of everyone. You think about all these supporters, players, everything surrounding Man United. But that pressure is a privilege because I was allowed to do that and I was allowed to deal with it in my way.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And that was having great stuff around us. Environment in and around the club was very positive. But in the end, it doesn't matter if you enjoy coming to work every day, training sessions, you need results. And we unfortunately had a... had a very bad six-week spell and that's that's too long at a club like Man United and they made a change which which is fine reflect back on it sorry how do I say this then it was sad we lost to Watford of course and I knew this is more or less the end drove my family to the airport they went back to Norway actually and I was going to work
Starting point is 00:14:12 I got a text all I need to see you in my office And I knew what was going to happen. So I rang my wife straight away. I'll be back. I'll catch you up. I thought I'd probably be back home before you. So... Did it feel a bit sudden?
Starting point is 00:14:28 I think it's sudden, but it's not surprising. If you don't get results, you do make a change at football. But I felt we had something going. Do you feel like when you look back on your period in charge that now people understand, given what's happened to Manchester United since, struggles, they look back on that fondly. Do you think you're given maybe the credit
Starting point is 00:14:48 that you deserve for your time? It's not about getting the credit, but it was a difficult, not difficult, it was the worst time to be the manager of Man United. You have Juergen Klopp with his Liverpool team and you have Pep Guardiola with his city team. Just the two best managers in the world at the time. Yeah, best managers in the world at the time,
Starting point is 00:15:05 probably the two best teams in the world at the time. But we got second and third. So we, you know, with the staff, we had something going, but we couldn't take the next step. So, and then hopefully we can get back as a club later on. If you could only achieve one more thing in your career, what would it be? Not lifting a trophy for Man United, that's one of the things that I will, as a manager. I was going to say, you've forgotten a few.
Starting point is 00:15:33 As a manager, that's something that doesn't play on my mind, but that's something that I would have liked to achieve. Hopefully we can do well in the World Cup with Norway, but that's something that would have liked to achieve. with Norway but then maybe to be the next one who knows you've always set targets the next Norway manager next Norway manager my friend Stolle is there now we're playing really well we're going to the World Cup I do really really like managing it's a great great job being the manager of young men ambitious young men that want to achieve something together Ollie, thank you for your time and best of luck with whatever comes next.
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