Football Daily - PL Review: City take control, Spurs destined for the drop?

Episode Date: April 19, 2026

Former Spurs and Forest midfielder Andy Reid joins Rick Edwards and Luke Edwards to analyse a season-defining weekend of Premier League action.Manchester City wrestled control of the title race with a 2-1 home win over leaders Arsenal and relegation candidates Leeds and Nottingham Forest both won while Spurs conceded in the 95th minute to draw.Manchester United, Liverpool and Aston Villa all went closer to securing a Champions League spot – will that be enough for Michael Carrick and Arne Slot to keep their jobs?And on the subject of uncertain futures for managers… Do Newcastle need to make a decision on Eddie Howe right now?Timecodes: 01:10 Who will win the league now? 01:45 Are Arsenal lacking in quality or mentality? 07:30 Should Arteta’s future be up for debate? 08:20 Would Arsenal ever be able to move on from losing the title from here? 09:30 Should Gabriel have been sent off? 12:05 Reaction from Mikel Arteta and Pep Guardiola 13:25 Can Arsenal wrestle back control psychologically? 16:20 The relegation battle — what a week for Nottingham Forest! 18:05 How have Forest moved from ‘banter club’ to a potentially historic season? 19:42 How has Vitor Pereira surprised people as Forest manager? 21:50 How many points needed to stay up? 23:20 Leeds’ best win of the season? 25:50 Do Spurs look better under Roberto de Zerbi already? 27:50 How much of a mental blow is it to concede late on? 31:10 Half-time teaser 34:20 Is Bruno Fernandes the Player of the Year? 35:50 Has Carrick done enough to keep the United job? 39:27 Chelsea’s failed season 42:20 Has Slot done enough to keep the Liverpool job? 47:20 Newcastle are in worse form than Spurs — do they need to make a decision on Eddie Howe right now?!

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Manchester City resting control of the title race with a 2-1 home win over Leaders Arsenal. Relegation candidates, Leeds and Notting Forest, both win handsomely as Spurs concede in the next. 95 minute to draw. Manchester United, Liverpool and Aston Villa go closer to securing a Champions League spot. Is that going to be enough for Michael Carrick

and Arna Slott to keep their jobs? And on the subject of uncertain futures for managers, do Newcastle need to make a decision on Eddie Howe right now? Analysis on all of that's come with former Spurs, Forest and Sunderland midfield at Andy Reid and the Telegras, Northern Football writer, Luke Edwards. Hello, both, how are we?

Very good, thank you. Oh, good. What a day. What a weekend. Really, really cracking weekend. And I think I just want to start things off exactly how we started last week. It's just one word answer. Who's going to win the league? Luke. Manchester City.

I'm saying that disappointment. So glumly as well. And Andy? Yeah, you can't look past City after today. Arsenal obviously still top, but only by three points. Could be second by the time they next play. Because Manchester City have got that game in hand against Burnley on Wednesday night. And the thing, you kind of watched.

You watched that game and thought, well, we've spoken for the whole season about how Arsenal have the best squad, maybe not best starting in them, but definitely best squad. So if they need to change things from the bench, you know, better than anyone, arguably. Certainly in England, we thought, potentially in Europe. But it never really felt like they had the quality to beat Manchester City. Oh, I don't know. I'm not too sure. They hit the bar, hit the crossbar. I think there wasn't that much in it.

But, you know, you know what it is? I'm not too sure that it's just the quality in one particular game. I think there's a good bit of mentality stuff going on here. You know, there's Arsenal were kind of cruising for a long time in the league. And it just seems that when the pressure really come on and have clicked into gear, that they haven't been able to kind of match them strive for stride. And that's where it's become a struggle. Now, for me, that's not about, well, I suppose it is about quality.

the quality of the mentality as well, which is equally as important as technical and tactical and all the other bits that go with it. But when the pressures come on top, that's when they've started to struggle. I agree with Andy, actually. I thought it was very fine margins for Arsenal. Ase's shot hits the inside of the post and comes out. Donorama makes a really fantastic double save after his foot howler in the first half. And then they hit the post again. And then it's the Kai Havert's chance at the end is. It's sort of that. but sticking in my mind because you just want a striker who in that, like it's such a great opportunity.

He, at the very least he has to get it on target, but he probably has to score as well. And if that falls to Harland, it's in. Yeah, and what he has to score in terms of the Premierly title, actually you just, that moment felt like it all really played at the end of the season as the moment Arsenal lost it. That's harsh on Kai Havert's, of course, but that's the nature of football.

And he's exactly right. The one question that Arsenal still had to answer this season was could they hold their nerve in the running? Could they play under pressure when the tension's high and your mind becomes sort of foggy and your body feels tired and your decision, you're making decisions under duress? Could they hold their nerve? And unfortunately, the fine margins I'm talking about, they've fallen short and that is, I'm going to inevitably lead to accusations that they've bottled it, that they've thrown it away. it was Arsenal's Premier League title to lose. And as things stand this evening, look, there could be another twist and turn to come.

You know, Man City could slip up. But as things stand, they've managed to throw it away. And yeah, I think it's probably a very bleak, a very depressing and a very dark evening for Arsenal supporters. These Premier Leagues, they're decided by big moments. And if you look at the game today, you know, in terms of chances created,

Arsenal, I would say, I haven't seen the exact XG, but I would imagine that Arsenal probably just shaded it. And you talk about that Havard's chance, and then you talk about the Harlan chance that he took, wrestled with Gabrielle, gets in front of him, gets that finish off, and that kills off the game. And they're the big moments that your big players need to show up.

And the big player has showed up for City today, and maybe Arsenal's lack of that big player in that number nine spot, has kind of come to haunt them really because they hope that Yocrez was going to be that player. And well, I don't think he's being poor. I don't think that he's kind of ripped it up either, has he? He's not kind of, you don't get to the edge of seat when he gets a chance

because you're thinking that there could be a possibility that he could miss on that. And for me, that's the difference between the two sides at this moment in time. Just looking at the XG. I mean, I don't really like XG very much, but City 1.41, Arsenal, 1.53, so fairly close on that.

I suppose in the end we're talking about great strikers and the importance of having a great striker and how many great strikers are there in the Premier League at the moment in Harland and then I don't know actually, maybe that is it. Well, Isak pre-Liverpool.

Esac pre-Liverpool. Pre-Liverpool, but yeah, Harland is head and shoulders above the rest, isn't he? in terms of being of that very top tier, that very world-class bracket. And as he said, he showed up. He had the chance. He showed up.

He converted it. Havert's, you know, he's not a world-class striker, but any stretch of the imagination. He has that moment and he puts it over. He's a very good player, by the way, Habert. He's a very good player, but he's not a Harland. And I just, yeah, I just think this is going to be really tough for Arsenal.

Well, we said last week, where does this leave Mikhail Artessa if they lose the title from here? If they end the season trophyless from where they were in February, well, going into the Carabal Cup final, where they were going into the Carabal Cup final, when they were still talking about a quadruple, the implosion from here would be one of the most spectacular meltdowns we have seen in English football. And that is unbound to call to serious questions about the manager,

because it has to. He's had five years. If he ends the season trophyless, if they throw away the title having led, was it nine points at one stage? and nine points this late in the season that is a catastrophic implosion. Would it have killed

Artetta before this game to just come out and say I will love it if we beat them? That's what we all want, isn't it? Brilliant. Come on, play the game, Mikkel. Yeah, I see it a bit that he said a couple of weeks ago. I think it was before the Bournemouth game, wasn't it? It was the old take on the John Sitton team.

Bring your dinners. Like an ory and Andy Reeves? Yes, Andy. Get another plug to Latin Orient. Yeah, I love it. I actually quite liked it, to be fair. I quite like him coming out and saying that. But you know what?

He's been getting a bit of stick as well for kind of trying to do things a little bit differently, hasn't he? And trying to maybe walk some of the mental side of the game. But I agree with you, Luke. I think if you spend that type of money and you've got the length of time that Artetta has had,

I think it has to be questions. Whether it's the right thing or not to sack him at the end of the season, I'm not too sure. I think we have to wait and see what happens between now and the end of the season because obviously there's Champions League. This league race is not over yet by any stretch of the imagination.

City win the game. There's a goal in it. I think I still have one more goal than them. And City obviously have the game in hand. So there's still plenty of points to be played for. But at the end of the season, I think there needs to be serious questions asked if they end up coming out trophyless. The problem is if they get into this situation again, this will just be used as evidence why they can't do it. That's the problem he's got. Yeah.

And it'll haunt them all somewhere, but I think it will haunt the whole Arta regime for a very long time. And look, there have been teams in the past that have used near misses as motivation to go on and succeed. Coventry, for example, have just been promoted from the championship. had some devastating close near misses and fell at the final hurdle and they've gone on and ended up winning promotion but I think it'd be very, very tough

when how competitive the Premier League is anyway and the fact that you'd expect other clubs to get better this was Arsenal's great chance this was their best chance in a generation and if they throw it away from here

yeah, it's going to be very great it's a tough time to be a football fan in North London at the moment, isn't it? Absolutely horrible. We'll come on to Spurs, don't you? Sorry, Andy. Should Gabrielle have been sent off? I mean, we were chatting beforehand

on our little messaging group and saying, feels, I don't really want it to be a red card because it's not actually a headbutt. But given that what we've seen, I don't understand how he hasn't been sent off. I think it is a headbut.

For me, look, don't have spent too long discussing what constitutes his headbutt, but I think it has to be your head is not in contact and then rapidly it makes contact. That's a headbut. This is a sort of forceful head push, but it's a head push that we've seen again and again

that has meant red card, right? That was what Alan Padre described his headbutt on David Myler as. It was a head push. A head push. Yeah, it was great to bring Alan Padre into the podcast. Shut your noise, you old, etc.

Him of dancing fame. But, yeah, no, I think, and Harlan's done him a huge favour because he does make contact with his nose. Case closed. And we always go on about why do players throw themselves to the floor in that sort of situation. It hasn't come back and cost Arsenal,

Manchester City, sorry, because they've gone on and won the game. But he had a chance there to get one of Arsenal's most important players, not only sent off but suspended. But out of a few, yeah. Yeah. And he's made contact with notes and he just stands there and takes it. Hasn't play acted at all. And that's probably spared Gabrielle.

But yeah, I was surprised it wasn't a red card. I think everybody who's seen it. would probably, I don't know, and you might disagree. I'm pleased that the referee made the decision that he did and kept it, like, a little, shown a little bit of restraint. I get it. Like, if you're a city fan, you say, yeah, yeah, he should be definitely sent off. But I've watched a couple of games over the last couple of weeks,

and I think the referees have been a little bit more kind of lenient. They've let a little bit more go. The games have flowed a little bit more, and I like that. I just think we've got into a couple of, culture of just too easy to dish out yellow cards and red cards and I'd like it to go back a little bit to you can have there can be a little bit of argy bargy you know there can be a decent strong tackle that doesn't necessarily mean it's a fell or if it is a fell probably it's a little bit of a different if it is a fell it doesn't necessarily mean it's yellow card I just think that most felds now like if it's a clean fell they're looking at giving yellow cards and I just think we need to just be a little bit more lenient. Head shoves fine Andy, that's what you're saying.

A little shoving a head. Yeah, a little shoved head, maybe a headlock and, you know, I don't know, maybe a DDT or a suplex or something. I think as soon as we start seeing people come down off the top rope,

the game's gone. Yeah, the top rope is too much. He is. He's a lucky boy. Well, let's get a bit of reaction from the Etihad. We've done a lot of great things in the game and took the game

and looked them in the eye and proposed again that they were very uncomfortable with this. We knew that we were going to need moments and moments was going to decide that and they had to go on our way. They created some incredible individual moments and when we had the biggest chances of the game because they were the biggest sense of the game

but they didn't put them away and that was the difference at this level. It's a tough opening, really, really tough. It's so difficult. They are alive. They make your game so aggressive and high-pressing is impossible to beat them. They are really good.

We did really, really good things, but they are a fantastic team. And yeah, we'll see. Now we want to talk in the locker room, guys. So all the only reality, right now in front of you is the leader at the top of the table is Arsenal. And the goal difference is one goal difference. So far, they are better.

So we have to do it. But of course, that victory gives us hopes, you know, to challenge a little bit longer. but yeah they are they are when people say no the momentum maybe they didn't get results lately that they were used to all the season winning winning but what I'm in touchline and see them

they are extraordinary otherwise you cannot do what they have done so far psychologically Andy can Arsenal get back it I mean I know there's still it's a mad we're talking about really they're still top but it feels like the momentum has shifted catastrophically now. Can they

wrestle back control here? I think it'd be difficult. Look at Arsenal, no matter what time it was in the season, could have gone to City and lost that game of football. So if I was in Arsenal, I wouldn't be necessarily too upset about kind of how they played, how they went about it today, because they could have won the game,

City could have won the game, which they did. For me, the turning point, and I was at the game, we covered it for Five Live, the Barmouth game, at Arsenal and you felt in that moment that that was a really big moment in the title race and

that's where you felt the damage was done and the fans were so edgy from you know five, ten minutes into the game even before Bournemouth scored there was a real edginess around the Emirates Ben White had the ball in his hands taking a throw in he couldn't really find anyone to throw it to the movement wasn't great

but it was still nil-nil at this point but the fans started getting on his back and they were like throw it, you know just felt like there was a real edginess and not a calmness. Now, what I will say as well... It's nice when you hear a bit of insight from fans when they're saying like genius stuff like

throw it, throw it. Throw it. And that's exactly how they were saying it in that accent as well. But you know in some of them circumstances, I'm not too sure. He uses it to his advantage sometimes Artetta in terms of

how animated he is on the touchline. But at times that lack of calmness, I think, probably goes on to the pitch and the players kind of sense that as well and I suppose the fans, everybody's really irate and that's okay when you're on top and you're dominating games, you're dominating teams

but when you need a little bit of calmness and you need everybody to just relax a little bit I don't think that it's had to help that situation. The title race isn't over. It might feel like it's over for Arsenal and for a lot of us, we're talking about poor Mikhail Artetta, you know, his job being under threat,

the city might slip up. They might. Stranger things have happened. They might slip up and then all of these words will look stupid because Mikhail Artetta's parading around North London

with a Premier League trophy. Also, Arsenal's next league game is against Newcastle at home, which is the dream fixture. At the moment, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's just, take the three points. I think one thing's guaranteed

there will be more twists in this title race. You know, it's not a case that City are going to go and win all the games. I don't think that that's going to happen. They normally do, Andy. They normally do. That's the problem with Man City.

I don't know. I think there'll be some... Speaking is a bit of Liverpool fan. They really normally do. Yeah. Okay, enough at the top then. Let's talk about what's happening at the bottom. Three goal wins for Leeds and for the tricky trees,

making it a devastating blow. Well, sort of triple blow, really, for spurs. relegation rivals win they can see the 95th minute equaliser that's now 111 days without a victory in the league whole of 2026 let's start with the positive

so Andy you were at Europe Forest what a week what a week yeah I mean I've had a really good football and week this week I was obviously at Forest for the for the

semi-final on Thursday which was great to get through I was at Tottenham yesterday evening for that game which was a great game and I'm sure we get on to

and then I was at Forrest again today for the for the Bournly game and the first half wasn't great for any stretch of imagination but then the second half kicks off Morgan Gibbs White grabs hold of the game puts an incredible second half performance

gets a hat-trick and Forrest go on to win convincingly and it was a really really really good performance in the second half border. A special individual performance from Morgan Gibbs White who has been the catalyst

for Forest a lot of the times when they need somebody to drag them from the doldrums. He's been the one that's done it more often than not. I mean I don't know if you've seen the goals, but three goals were brilliantly taking goals, all three

of them, and the tour went ahead of from the penalty spot. I know he's good in the air, but that was something special. So brilliant afternoon for Forrest. You can really understand why Marinacus put the, and I'm going to say metaphorical, even though maybe I don't mean it, metaphorical thumbs screws onto Morgan Gibbs White to make sure he didn't leave, can you, Luke?

Thank you, Mr. Maranacquez. Thank you, yes. Yeah, and it's always fascinating when we get to this stage of the season because it's my job to cover the narratives of a football season. We talk about it on this podcast every Sunday. That Forrest were the banter club. They were one of the crisis clubs. They, you know, they got lost Nuno, who talks his way out of the job at the start of the season.

We had the Posta Coglue... Disaster. Yeah. And then, you know, they've been worried about relegation for most of the season. And there was talk about what an absolute disaster that would be for the football club. And then suddenly they're in a European trophy, you know, European competition semifinal. And it looks like they're going to get out of relegation trouble. So what seemed like an utterly miserable and bruising season

could actually have this fantastic end. And the only people who had a better weekend... I think Sean Dych will be disappointed not so got to mention. I haven't mentioned Sean Dyche, sorry, I've forgotten about it. How Sean Dyche. Aren't Dyshe. I can't believe I've left him out. The Sean Deish, the rather unspectacular Sean Dice era.

So it is interesting how the narrative around a football club can change. And Andy's just described it as an absolute great weekend. And look, the only person who's, The only people who've had a better weekend than Morgan Gibbs White are people who want to see either West Ham or Tottenham go down because I think when you look at the Premier League table now, it's going to be one of those too. Yeah. I mean, it feels like it.

And I think it's probably, I imagine we sort of said something about this on the podcast. I don't think many people were excited by the appointment of Vitor Pereira and Ian. Yeah, five Premier League games unbeaten, longest run of the season for Forrest, into a European semi-final. Now, I mean, look, I'm not saying

that they're safe, but they are moving very much in the right direction. Like, he's doing a great job, isn't he? He has done a great job. I think what he's done is he's probably, you know, brought a bit of calmness to her. The players have responded to that. They've got on a bit of a role at the moment.

You know, getting through some tough games as well that he's had to manage in Europe and in the Premier League. and starting to pick up some points. And, you know, I do feel that he's brought calmness to it, and he's done a good job. I've seen him and his coaching staff kind of working on the grass, and they do work really well together.

That's for sure. And the players seem to have responded. You know, again, but you talk about fine margins in football. There's a lot of fine margins in football. And, you know, somebody here on in the managers early on in the season, you know, you talk about Sean at times he was potentially unlucky. Forrest, you know, in his last game, had something like 35 attempts

against wolves. You know, and you talk about fine margins. And, you know, these are people that I, obviously, I'm still a coach at the club, and these are people that have worked with. And they've had a lot of quality and a lot of good bits to them. But if we're talking about the manager at the moment,

has worked really well, him and his coaching staff, and they're getting the results at this moment in time. I definitely don't feel that they're safe at all yet. You know, you've got a tough game away to Sunderland next week. You've got, and then you've got Tottenham going to wolves who are really struggling. You could see them getting at least a point, probably more than likely a win. So I still think that does work to do. Did you rate my dice impression?

Did you write my dice impression? I didn't, to be honest with you, mate. I didn't really rate it. I didn't think you were a deep. enough. Give it a go then Andy. I can't

out of my Irish accent. I mean, Luke can't do it either. It doesn't stop him. Yeah, I mean, it's a running joke that

it's not a great impression, but thanks for absolutely chopping me off at the knees, Andy, with it anyway. To me,

that was a straight red actually, I mean, that's wrong close. It's either chopping me off at the knees or people listening to this

thinking that I'm just a liar, so it's one or the other. It's a good point. So what do we think? So the Forrest are on 36, now two wins, two wins from the last five games of do it, wouldn't it?

I think it's probably going to be 40 points, I think. Sears you safe. If you look at it, if you look at that, what Tottenham round, they haven't won a game all season. All year. All year. I know they're bad. I know they're bad, Andy, but they're...

That's what it feels like. I take that last bit back. All year, they haven't won a game. to then go and win three games. I think it's a big ass. If you heard Deserby, Deserby's giving it the big one. I really like this.

He said, yeah, I think we can win five on a trot, actually. I give you lost your mind, mate. But I have to say, I don't know whether we're just about to kind of move on to talking about Tottenham and not yesterday, but there was definitely an improvement in the performance yesterday. Yeah, I would agree with that. Let's talk quickly about leads and then get on to Spurs,

just because this is probably the best. week of this season for Lees. That win at Old Trafford, very rare, and then just punishing wolves. And they are now eight ahead of spurs. And you've got to think that that puts them safe, Luke. They're 39 points with having played this amount of game. No team in Premier League history has been relegated with 39 points at this stage of the season

or gone on to go down. So I think fantastic. Daniel Fark has been one of the first. of our favourite managers this podcast because he was so close to getting the sack and we've gone over it many times. But the fact he was all the disrespect in the summer when he was, you know, having to hear about he might be replaced. I think they've been great. I think there's been a credit to the football club. I think there's been a credit to the championship as well. I think it's been so important for the Premier League that both Sunderland and Leeds, two big city

clubs, big fan bases have come up and they've had a real go at it. They've had a real go and bucked that trend of newly promoted teams going straight back down. And that is why we are talking about the likes of Nottingham Forest, Tottenham, West Ham, one of them is going to go down because two newly promoted teams have outperformed them on and off the pitch. They've got their recruitment better, better coaching, better management. And that is why one of those big traditional giants of English football is, I think, is going to be in the championship next season. A few leads fans having to backtrack a little bit. Always.

There was a lot of Leeds fans on Fargo. case early on in the season wasn't it? I do think back to a pivotal

moment for Leeds and that was the away game against City and I remember because I covered that game

and I think it was it was a 2-0 a half time and you just couldn't see anything kind of going well for them know they got back

into the game they ended up losing the game I'm pretty sure late on if I remember you saw something didn't you?

Yeah you saw something and you thought oh okay these could be a threat for some of the teams that are there that are

down there and They beat Chelsea, didn't they at home? Was it October? Again, I think it was around the international breaks when his job seemed to be under threat and I'm sure it's Chelsea they beat at home and that was really the catalyst for them turning it around.

Well, they've now got their first back-to-back wins in the Premier League, final team to achieve that because amazingly wolves had done it. Okay, let's talk about Spurs then. I agree, I watched most of this game and thought spurs were much, much better and you could see what deserve he was asking him to do. And there was just a lot more energy.

And you tell me, Andy, but it seemed like the crowd were quite sort of energized by it. Yeah, no, absolutely. What I will say, it's a bit of a kind of chicken and egg situation. The crowd brought a good degree of atmosphere to the stadium, probably haven't seen for a bit. And the players fed off that. It was a strange one for me,

having kind of watched both of the Tottenham performances under the Zerby. It seems that they were less bothered about possession, which is what the Zerby has always been known for. But what there was in the performance, particularly yesterday evening, was a good tempo and a good intensity. They pressed Brighton really high up the pitch. The catalyst of that was Dominic Slanky,

you were told, was excellent. And you'd go through the game and you think the crowd came with them. And when their second goal went in, when Simmons got a second goal, which was a brilliantly taken goal, really, really well-taking goal. The place erupted, and the atmosphere was as good as probably I've seen it at the new stadium.

And you're thinking, yeah, this could be the start of something good. And then on the flip side of that, when that route a goal goes in in injury time, the life just got sucked out of it. And it wasn't toxic as in there was no booing or it just felt like it just went flat, you know, where people were a little bit... Yeah, shell-shocked kind of thing, you know,

and you're thinking, oh, are they going to be able to pick themselves up from this? So a tough blow for them to take, definitely a tough blow for them to take, but shoots of, I suppose, positivity. It's one of those, though, it feels like a defeat. Yeah. It's not a defeat, but it feels like another defeat. I think psychologically, that's huge. They're obviously low on confidence anyway.

They've had the team meal, haven't they, in the best? on that which deserve he paid for which was very very nice he's tried to get that team bond going that enjoyment going uh bander brothers and and and he's right that the crowd played its part they turned up with defiance and and unity which has been severely lacking at tottenham all season so you've got one of the oldest cliches in football is the sign of a good team is when you win when you're playing badly the flip side of that cliche is that you're a bad team when you don't win when you're playing well and I think that is the concern for Tomham. The big worry

for them, if West Ham, you know, go away to Crystal Palace on Monday night and win, that gap is going to be four points between them and West Ham and, you know, as Andy said, they haven't won this year, they can't even win, you know, they're defending a two-one lead at home. It's the

real chance to just change, change everything, change everything about all the way the people are talking about the football, the way they're talking about the team. It was that opportunity to change it and they still couldn't hold on. So I think that's another nailing their coffin personally. Even just like the nature of the nature of the goal, I thought that as well.

Just it was such a, it was such a good goal, exactly the kind of goal that you want to get the crowd excited and believing. And then, yeah, just the matter of... How much can a group of players take? How much one group of players take? Andy, you might know better than me. When you're in those situations and you just feel like you can't land, you can't get a break, nothing goes for it. That must be how it feels to them.

Well, they looked absolutely broken, didn't they at the end? They did. And what it is, unless you're a couple of goals up going into the last few minutes, no matter who you're playing against, you're always thinking we could concede here, and that's not a good place to be. I wonder whether it could be a bit of a sliding doors kind of weekend for Tottenham.

If you look at, if they had to win that game, they would have gone above West Ham, wouldn't they? And come out of the bottom three. But then they don't win the game. Forrest's going win today. and I believe that West Ham are going to be Palace tomorrow and then you're thinking it's what's that, it's a lot of points to make up.

Well, it'll be four points and West Ham would have the safety net where they can slip up and Tottenham have kind of got to try and be perfect every game. They've won seven games in the league all season. They've got five games left. They're going to have to win. If West Ham win tomorrow, you would have thought they're going to have to win at least three,

if not four of their remaining games. It would be one of the great escapes. It would. Well, no, maybe not because they're so close to West Ham. So it's not like there's a big deficit. True, I suppose so. I think it would be the city. They haven't won all year, Rick.

Yeah, okay. Here's my, this is me making a big call. If they don't beat wolves on Saturday at Molyneux, they go down. I don't think that's the biggest call you've attempted to make this season. Would you agree? Yes, I think it's quite an easy, I'm nodding and I'm going to say the words yes as well, just to reinforce it. Okay, fine. It's not the biggest show.

It wasn't the biggest shout. If this is what he does, Andy, I'm making a really bold. Me, Rick Edwards, I'm making a really bold statement. Put in my neck on the line and my reputation. Here's another one.

I think if Spurs don't win any of their remaining five, they're going to struggle to stand up. You're just summing him up. We're going to talk about Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Aston Villa, Newcastle and more shortly. But first, half-time teaser.

Igor Tiago has become the top-scoring Brazilian in a single Premier League season with 21. He's actually probably the next, thinking about our great striker. It's a decent show. I mean, I know it's only one season, but he's been brilliant. He really has. Yeah. This is not what my question is about as it happens.

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Not all time in one season. In one season. Fabian Share. Fabian Share is unsurprisingly wrong. I should actually just mention, Andy, that Luke is phenomenally bad at the halftime teasers. Absolutely. I think you'll be better. Are we keep going until Luke?

or do you want me to have a No, I'd like you to have a alternate. Shikiri's got to be one now. Absolutely right, Andy. Absolutely right. He's the top eight. He scored eight goals in 2017, 18.

I'm thinking does Jacca have a really good goal scorer in season? Maybe, I don't know. 22, 23, scored seven. Oh, Andy's just, Andy's got one of them brains where he just absorbed

as in his got information. He's just got, no. He's got a certain type of brain that retains useless bits, tip bits of football trivia, which I don't. Yeah, my wife wouldn't agree with that not for a second. No, I'd retain any kind of information at all. I think we might have similar brains than Andy, because I can't recall anything about my own life.

I really can't. Fabian shares most of the season was four, so it was a terrible guess actually as well, Luke. Yeah, an absolute shocker, not for the first time. No, and it won't be the last. Manchester United in Liverpool, both bounce back from defeat to win and make Champions League qualification for the next season. In the case of United, very likely, in the case of Liverpool, likely.

Aston Villa, probably the game of the weekend, actually, nearly threw victory away against Sunday, four, three in added time. So United's win at Chelsea. A word on United, and actually specifically on Bruno Fernandez, Luke, because, and I know that there are various teams that we say this about, but where United would be without that guy, I do not know. There's 18 assists for the season now.

I think, and I haven't made a final decision yet, but as a member of the Football Writers Association, I get a vote for Player of the Year, which I never did cast for Andy Reid, but he was on my long list a couple of, a couple of times. How long was that list? Very, very long list. Do you just have a list of every player? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Fernandez would be, yeah, he might get my vote. He might get my vote because for everything you've just said there, the way he held, I say held them together, but he was the shining light in the storm under Amarim, wasn't he? And he has been now for a long, long time. 18 assists in a season is a stunning statistic. I think he's character. The record's 20 to Breiner and Henri. So he could easily break it this season. There were some people at the club who were seriously considering whether to sell. him to Saudi Arabia last summer. I mean, that's nuts, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, I know the Rackcliffe regime has made some pretty doth decisions already.

Keep the name is good. That would have been an absolute shocker when you consider the season he's had. And he's so important for them still. I think he's, you know, he's clearly enjoying playing for Michael Carrick as well. He's been absolutely integral to them. And yeah, I think he would be certainly, yeah, I think he would probably get my vote for player of the year. Someone was speculating the other day, Andy to me,

and it sounds like it was sort of vaguely informed speculation, but I don't know, that the Manchester United hierarchy are not convinced still by Michael Carrick, and they maybe don't fairly sort of alpha enough for them, which is a bizarre criteria, but there we go. But if you look at where he has taken them from to where they are now,

almost guaranteed Champions League football, he couldn't really have done any more, could he? Yeah, I think he has to come out with an awful lot of credit. I think what Manchester United are looking at is probably is he the manager to take us to the next level. What he has done is he's taking them to kind of the level where they're at now, which, look, in my opinion, I think he's done a really good job, but I think the lack of flexibility in Amarams,

kind of how we went about in terms of formations, in terms of how rigid he was with his development of the, team and his development of the players, I don't think I would have taken a huge amount to get some decent gains, but he still had to go in there, set the team up the right way, get them playing some decent football, instill a little bit of belief and instill a bit of confidence in them because they were severely lacking that, and to try and make them enjoy themselves a little bit as well. And I think they've achieved that. I think Manchester United have achieved that. So it depends on what the barometer is, what we measure in Manchester United on, just better than

what Amram is or Manchester United standards of really competing for a Premier League and really competing for a Champions League. You've got them where they should be, isn't he? Sorry to drop there. You've got them where they should be. Given their signings in the summer which I thought were really good, then yes.

But I also think as well, this is the question. If you were asking me, looking from the outside, oh, would give Michael Carrick the job because I think he's proved that he can't do something, but then again, are you going back to the similar situation with

Solskia where he went in and it's a similar kind of situation. But haven't said that, you've brought in Marino, you've brought in Amram, you've brought in all these different coaches that have tried at Man United that are probably people would say renowned for winning trophies, renowned for being successful and it hasn't worked for them.

So, I don't know, maybe it's not the manager. Maybe it's not the manager. That's the problem at Manchester United. I think you're right and I think it's a very, very tough decision for them because let's not, the two games he's lost, he lost away against 10 men, Newcastle, and they were pretty awful in that game, and they've lost at home to Leeds. Yeah. Again, and we're pretty clueless for large spells of that game. So he's gone to Chelsea and 1-1-0.

Great. I think he's done, I think he's done a very good job in the circumstances with what he inherited. He's done everything that's asked of him. But it is a different type of challenge to recruit in the summer. Recruitment won't be controlled by him. I'll have an input in it. Of course he will do, but it won't be controlled by him because that's not the structure at Manchester United. and then he's going to be expected to be better than this season. He's going to be expected to be closing the gap. They need to be, at least on the fringes of a title race. They need to go do well in the Champions League. They need to go deep into cup competitions.

He's been playing one game a week since he took over and came in when the club was really at a very, very low air, and he's brought back some pride and all the things Andy said are absolutely bang on. But it's still a tough decision to make because do you trust him on what you've seen so? far, do you trust him to go and take you closer to the title race? I think

it's a very, very tricky decision for the hierarchy there. Now, let's give Chelsea a good old kick in now please. They are seven points off fifth now. They haven't scored a goal in the Premier League since the 4th of March. They've only had one clean sheet

since Resina took over in January. This is a mad stat. No side in Europe since the start of March in a big five leagues. sorry, has lost more games in all competitions than Chelsea coming into the weekend. Six in nine. Four consecutive Premier League defeats only a second time this century.

Yes, I know that they hit the woodwork, but like this has been a very, very bad season with a lot of very, very talented players, Luke. Well, player trader FC, as we may as well call them now, because that's the problem. Yes, they've got a lot of talented players and they've done some smart recruitment and they've snapped up some of the most exciting young talent in Europe and they've cobbled them all together. But you've never had a sense under Blue Coe that there is actually a strategy to winning things,

to improving as a football team. There is a strategy to recruit and sell well. And that is very different from building a successful football team and a coherent plan for a football club. Now, Resina has gone in there. Moreska had enough of it, as we know. He had enough of it. He realized quite early on that, you know,

didn't have the sort of balanced squad. He didn't have enough leaders. He didn't have enough experience to match the expectations that were being set for him. So he talked his way out at the job. They're given the job to LinkedIn, Rossinia. And that's really unfair, but he's getting a kicking for the way he talks in the media. Nothing has improved. Nothing has got better in the short term. And when you listen to Rossinia talking, he's already sounds like a manager who's worried about his future. Yeah. And so he will be. Yeah. The Chelsea have kept with the Abram Sacking sort of approach when you could quickly turn over managers who are underachieving. But they haven't got getting anything like the same success that they had in the Abramovich era.

I think they're a real mess. And I think there's a lot of disquiet. There's a lot of frustration. There's a lot of anger brewing, I think, at Chelsea amongst the supporters about what on earth is happening to their football club. And what is the plan? Where are they going to go from here? I was reading a piece the other day they're saying that they want to sign more experience this summer

but there's going to still be a massive turnover of players and they're giving out these long contracts and Resini is just there and he looks like he's he looks like he's drowning already right we haven't got long left actually I did you want to talk about Liverpool and Newcastle Liverpool good result for them in the Derby first time at the Hill Dickinson

interesting that two of the sort of old guard in Saler and Van Dyck popped up with the goals and now you know champions league does look quite probable and the obvious question is does that mean that slot keeps his job what do you think Andy? I don't like

speculating because it is obviously people's jobs and people's livelihoods but I'm not too sure that he's shown enough this season to warrant maybe continuing with it which seems like a crazy thing to say

doesn't it consider any one the Premier League last season and it just shows you how quickly the wheels turn but also what I'm gauging is you know I don't go on social media an awful lot but when I do it doesn't seem to be very positive from a Liverpool perspective

around slot and it seems like he's fighting against you know the fans kind of turning what they haven't been able to do is gel that group of players I was talking to a Liverpool fan earlier today and I kind of posed a question is I know a lot of the signings that they've made probably haven't turned out how they would have liked,

but if you had a look at their signings at the start of the season when they did bring them in and thought, you would have said, yeah, they're good signings, or would have said that they're good signings, but they haven't been able to, at the football club, gel that team together in a way to make them successful. I think they've gone too far. I don't expect slot to be the same as Klopp by any stretch of the imagination, but I think they've gone too far the other way. and when I watch, I don't think there's enough aggression and enough intensity in Liverpool's play when I watch them now to really compete in the big games. And I think they get overrun in the big games, which was never a thing that happened before.

So they haven't been able to gel a group of players together to make them successful this season. So what's the alternative? Do you stick with the coach? Do you keep going? Or do you make new signings? Or do you get rid of the coach and do you let another guy have a go at jelling what is a talented group? with players. I think he'd keep him.

I think he's done enough. I don't think you can discard the fact that he won the Premier League in his first year. I just don't think you dispense for that. I think they got the recruitment wrong. I think if they get Champions League football, I think that's enough for him to, he deserves the chance to get that squad a bit more balanced. You know, get on with replacing Salah,

who I think's been a bit of a headache and a bit of distraction for him this season in particular. I think he's done enough, Rick, for me, to deserve a chance to show that he can get the club back on track next season. What recruitment do you think that they got wrong? I'm not being a smart... Yeah, not getting gay here, trying to play Harbour at the end. The fact they signed Ika TK and ESAC

when they probably only needed one of them and they could have spent for other areas of the team. Yeah, I agree, but still good players. Still good players. But when they signed, you would have said, no, it's easy to look back on it now and go, oh, well, it hasn't quite worked out, and whatever.

But when they signed, it was a good player. Vertz, you're looking at it. I thought, that's a good signin. I can see him making an impact. But I mean, let's not forget that in the summer, a lot of people, and I would probably include myself in this, we're just like, well, Liverpool are going to wrong. You did. You definitely said that.

That was one of your bold predictions. Yeah. Yeah. That one has not aged quite as well. Yeah, no. But I was the same, though, and I think this is the point that I'm making. It's easy to look back on it now and say, oh, yeah, but the recruitment hasn't worked.

But for me, when I look back at it, I take your point about gay, and I take your point that maybe they didn't need both Isaac and Ekateke, but still I was looking like, they're good players that they've signed coupled with the players that they've already got there. I expected them to go and win the league as well and probably quite comfortably. Isak, I'll just give you his stats because I'm quite enjoyable.

He played a half against PSG in midweek and he played about 70 minutes today and how many touches in total do you think he has? had. Have a guess, Andy. 120 minutes, say 120 minutes of football roughly. Can we go with 20 touches? Luke? 14.

Absolutely bang on. I already knew because I'd already looked at it because I have a vested interest in Alexander. Nine touches today, five, five in midweek. I mean... He was very poor. Very, very poor. It's nowhere near the game.

He's just nowhere near the game. He's nowhere near the player he was at Newcastle. There's probably a multitude of reason for that. The injury, of course. breaking his leg hasn't hurt him but he wasn't looking great no i think you have to give him a bit of a bit of grace but it's quite it is quite like how it was when he

before the injury and he just couldn't get into the game or we were all liverpool don't get him into the game i don't know no well that and they will just be hoping he comes good next season for everybody for everybody's sake at liverpool least certainly for alexander he's sake himself for the people who decided to spend 128 million pounds on him in the circumstances that they did they have to hope that he is a better, you know, looks like the Newcastle player after a preseason.

If he doesn't, that's going to go down as one of the most. One of the worst transfers in Premier League history. I hope it does for him. We actually have to have to wrap up annoyingly, but we should just talk about Newcastle because you could be forgiven for thinking that the league's most out-of-formed team are spurs. They are not because the most out-formed team in the league are Newcastle. Eight defeats in their last 11.

and of course there are questions swirling around about Eddie Howe's future. I know you've written about this Luke, but it's really poor, isn't it? It is really poor and I think it's got to the situation now where we keep being told that Eddie Howe's position will be reviewed at the end of the season. I don't know why they're waiting really because we know this season hasn't been good enough. we know that our summer's recruitment was poor, and that is a big reason why things have gone badly. We know that the sale of Alexander Isak on deadline day

absolutely killed them. We know all of these things. I don't see what the end of season review is going to tell us. So my point is, you know, the fans are doubting. They don't want to turn on Eddie Howe because of everything he's done for the football club in four years. He still has a big chunk of support amongst the fan base. The fans are arguing amongst themselves about what the best course of action is,

what they should do and the club are saying oh we'll decide at the end of the season I don't see why they can't just announce what that decision is now

because then that will give the support as a chance to digest the information get there, you know, adjust their emotions accordingly,

it will look like there's a plan to go forward with the football club but at the minute it's just sort of drifting onto the rocks the season.

The season has imploded and if they are going to get rid of him if that's the decision they want to take which I'm sure they already know if I'm being honest

I don't think they're going to find anything out in the remaining five games in the season then say that he's going and then the fans can give him the send-off, show their appreciation and love for him towards the remainder of the season. So I don't get this idea of everything's waiting for this end of season review because they don't need to review what happens. It's been a bad season in the

league. It's gone back terribly wrong. Recruitment was poor, but do you trust Eddie Howe to lead the rebuild? I am in the Eddie Howe is the right man to lead the rebuild camp for the same reason that I've just stuck up for slot in terms of you don't just dispense of him. Had a very successful season last season and the seasons previously. I don't think you dispense with a very talented manager after one bad season. Well, leave it there. Andy, one last chance. Do your Sean Dyche impression?

No, no. I'll leave it. I'll leave it. One more go, just for Andy's pleasure. Dajesh. It is bad, Dish. Not bad. Thank you both. That's all got time for on the Premier League review. More analysis and debate coming up on the Monday eye club.

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